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Speaker 2: Oh well, he said, Kamala Harrison, Kamala Harris going to

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Speaker 2: it's Buck Wheat.

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Speaker 3: Been trying to get him to run for ages.

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Speaker 2: Now we said make America O tay again.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like like Joe Biden actually would believe like Buckwheat

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Speaker 2: I just want to make America O tay again.

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Speaker 4: Or Jangles or some shit. Yeah, I was friends with

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Speaker 4: uncle Huckabuck, Hello the Internet, and welcome.

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Speaker 3: To season three seventy seven, episode two of Dernaily's Guysday

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Speaker 3: production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take

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Speaker 3: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is,

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Speaker 3: of course, Tuesday February twenty fifth, twenty twenty seen three

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Speaker 1: It's only been Let's look at the age lines on

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Speaker 1: what today? What's today? February twenty fifth is as we

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Speaker 1: all know. Uh, it's National Chocolate Covered Nut Day and

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Speaker 1: National clam Chowder Day.

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Speaker 2: Boom hell yea. It is favorite favorite chocolate covered.

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Speaker 3: Tree nuts, clam chowder, chocolate cluver favorite powder chocolate covered

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Speaker 3: Wait what was the second one? Clam chowder Day?

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Speaker 3: I don't I used to that. That was like there

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Speaker 3: My name is Jack O'Brien aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm

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Speaker 3: thrilled to be joined as always buy my co host,

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Speaker 1: Miles Gray aka My House was All Fire.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I know a lot of people were like, he's

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Speaker 1: It's all part of the grieving and morning processes to

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Speaker 3: cool Zone Media. They're a writer and host on It

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Speaker 3: Could Happen here, yeah, other Cool Zone shows. They make

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Speaker 5: Last year was a really dark summer.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you've mispronounced Brett Brat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Garrison, what's something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 5: I showed people The Straight Story, the David Lynch movie

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Speaker 3: The Straight Story? Okay?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, It's like it was like David Lynch's normcore movie

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Speaker 5: It is very Lynchian and like the thing that that

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Speaker 3: But I'm going I'm going to watch The Straight Story

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Speaker 5: But it's it's still It's not something I would like

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Speaker 3: I feel like the sparkling water for me at this point,

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Speaker 3: of a like sour What is that? Yeah? There, it's

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Speaker 3: like sour, and there's like a bitterness that you can

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Speaker 3: feel in your soul a little bit, like it's like

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Speaker 3: the after taste, like like a resonant bitterness.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, yes.

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Speaker 3: The exhaust the nineteen eighty six Honda Accord exhaust notes

445
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Speaker 3: are like kind of come in after the fact and Japanese. Yeah, exactly,

446
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Speaker 3: so sophisticated. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll

447
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Speaker 3: come back and we will talk about politics.

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Speaker 7: Yay, and we're back.

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Speaker 3: We're back, and so Garrison, yeah, Garrison, what is all that? Guys?

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Speaker 3: What are the points you made that? It is sort

451
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Speaker 3: of how I experienced the whole doge thing. Is that

452
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 3: doge as a concept started out as everybody being somewhat

453
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Speaker 3: dismissive and being like, well, they can't do anything.

454
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Speaker 5: Yeah, like the fucking stupid meme concept like come on.

455
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah exactly. Everybody was just like this is dumb.

456
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Speaker 1: They're is going to be a government. Aid didn't see Okay.

457
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Speaker 5: It's not even a real agency. It's it's an advisory commission.

458
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Speaker 5: They can't do anything, right, Yeah, it's just.

459
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: A dumb, mean thing. They literally named it DOGE, like

460
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Speaker 3: it's so ridiculous. And weeks later we're all like, oh, no,

461
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Speaker 3: turn something.

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Speaker 5: They can't do stuff. Yeah, I guess somehow.

463
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Speaker 3: Well what happened? Hey, Hey, what happened?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? I kind of forgot that, Like, you know, they

465
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Speaker 5: don't need to follow the rules, like it doesn't matter,

466
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 5: like they can they can. They can just do stuff,

467
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Speaker 5: I guess, certainly like droping in DOGE with the United

468
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Speaker 5: States Digital Service, like it was like, you know, kind

469
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Speaker 5: of their way like around around this. But even still,

470
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Speaker 5: like they are not even playing in the in like

471
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Speaker 5: the court where you need to like use Congress to

472
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Speaker 5: create agencies, because they're shutting down agencies without Congress. It's

473
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Speaker 5: like they just like don't care and they're waiting to

474
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Speaker 5: see if anyone's going to stop them, namely the courts,

475
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Speaker 5: and if the courts do stop them, who's going to

476
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Speaker 5: enforce the will of the court. And they're they're just

477
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,439
Speaker 5: like fine doing that because there's no consequence if they

478
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Speaker 5: play in that game anymore. They have immunity and pardon power,

479
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 5: so like they're giving it the shot because they don't

480
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Speaker 5: believe in the same like rules of decorum that like

481
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Speaker 5: the Democrats TM typically. Do you know when when Biden

482
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Speaker 5: had that whole press conference after the Supreme Court made

483
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Speaker 5: the president again, He's like, this is this is a

484
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Speaker 5: dark day for democracy. I I hope that myself and

485
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Speaker 5: and any future president never never uses this power. And

486
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Speaker 5: You're like, Okay, buddy, well I guess I guess what

487
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,639
Speaker 5: the next one's gonna do. Yeah, do you want to

488
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 5: use the power to solve that problem right now? You could?

489
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Speaker 2: You might as well try it out to see how it's.

490
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Speaker 5: And now we're here, so I don't know, like it's

491
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Speaker 5: it's certainly like both myself and and others underestimated, like

492
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Speaker 5: like specifically like Musk and like Dog's ability to actually

493
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Speaker 5: enforce their recommendations. And I think Trump has been more

494
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Speaker 5: of like a like an absent executive figure than then

495
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Speaker 5: what's you know I would have previously like suspected he's

496
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Speaker 5: kind of just letting Musk do whatever he wants.

497
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Speaker 1: Right, I'm curious, Like I'm just trying to think of

498
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Speaker 1: how the influence is working in the White House, because

499
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Speaker 1: clearly Musk is in proximity to Trump enough that he's

500
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Speaker 1: everywhere and he's doing He's the one like, hey, let

501
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: me talk over you in the oval, let me talk

502
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Speaker 1: over you during this like interview.

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Speaker 3: He's in the White House.

504
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: Non stop, like he has he has he has a

505
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 5: gets his headquarter set up in a specific wing. I

506
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,959
Speaker 5: can try to pull it up, but no, like he's

507
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 5: he like has the headquarters there.

508
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Speaker 3: He's living his own diet coke button but for ketamine.

509
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 5: Yeah exactly, yea, yeah, who knew that we could make

510
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Speaker 5: kede me?

511
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Speaker 3: Not cool?

512
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Speaker 1: I know, But I'm just like just like thinking of

513
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Speaker 1: like the latest sort of spat that's happening in Doge

514
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Speaker 1: White House world, which is his like letter to be

515
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: like write down your five greatest hits or fucking leave

516
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: email that he sent to all these federal workers and

517
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Speaker 1: then having many many appointees like points tell their sort

518
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: of subordinates. Just please fucking ignore what you just saw.

519
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: Like we're talking about d d like you know, you can't.

520
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 5: Share classified information for email.

521
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,360
Speaker 1: Department of Energy, Health and Human Services DHS, Like they're

522
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: all like, dude, please fucking ignore this isn't.

523
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 5: Twitter like you can't like this the different rules apply.

524
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Speaker 1: Right, So I'm curious because clearly Musk thinks none of

525
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Speaker 1: those rules apply. But then you have the people who

526
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: are a little bit more sort of of the wonky

527
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Speaker 1: machinery of DC, who are also trying to ascend a

528
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Speaker 1: power via Project twenty twenty.

529
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Speaker 2: Five or whatever.

530
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that do you see like a certain wing having

531
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Speaker 1: any more influence because I feel like, clearly must help Trump.

532
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: Trump feels indebted to Musk, therefore he like let it cook.

533
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: But then Project twenty twenty five is like the way

534
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Speaker 1: that he's like, we're going to get a bunch of

535
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Speaker 1: conservatives on board if you promise to do X, Y

536
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: and z. But at times it seems like there they

537
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Speaker 1: can slightly be at odds at times with in terms

538
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Speaker 1: of how they want to move forward with that. Do

539
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 1: you see one having more of an advantage over the

540
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Speaker 1: other right now in terms of how you're seeing things

541
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Speaker 1: sort of unfold?

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Speaker 5: I mean I would say Musk kind of right now

543
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 5: has more sway just through the sheer individual power. Musk

544
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 5: has types of connections he has to the tech world, uh,

545
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 5: the actual like money and capitally has the influence and

546
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,719
Speaker 5: then yeah, like all of Musk's work to help get

547
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Speaker 5: Trump elected.

548
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Speaker 3: And this is I think Trump has an internal barometer

549
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 3: of who to respect and it's only like based on money,

550
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: and so he has yes and how much you have most.

551
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Speaker 5: Succeeded and fucking other people, over which Musk is good at.

552
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 5: Like he's not a good inventor, he's not a good engineer,

553
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,959
Speaker 5: he's good at fucking people. Yeah, and Trump like kind

554
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 5: of respects that. And and and also like Trump knows

555
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 5: that Musk can ever like usurp him as president technically

556
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 5: because he can't. He can't run legally, so inside he

557
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 5: just has this shadow president aspect going on. But no,

558
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Speaker 5: I'm there is you know, parts of like the Heritage

559
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,479
Speaker 5: people might be a little bit annoyed at at like

560
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 5: Musk's like like very oversized influenced that there's been people

561
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: like in the Trump admin or like the Trump orbit

562
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 5: who have who have like complained about Musk to press before.

563
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 5: But I think in order to make any of the

564
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 5: Project twenty twenty five stuff work, you first need Musk

565
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 5: to purge the government. So they're letting him do it

566
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 5: because also it's as soon as they step too far,

567
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 5: Musk is the easiest guy to cut out to be like,

568
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 5: all right, all right, this this thing was bad. If

569
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 5: you need someone to blame, we'll blame this rich weirdo

570
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 5: from South Africa. It's it's very it's very handy to

571
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 5: keep him around, and they need him to like do

572
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 5: the dirty chopping work, and he's he's willing to do it.

573
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 5: And he's demonstrated an ability to dismantle and detonate like large, large,

574
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: large bureaucratic machines, whether that's yeah, SpaceX, Tesla, Twitter, and

575
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 5: now the United States government.

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Speaker 1: Right, And I'm like, I guess to that end, right,

577
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: because I know I get that usual Trump shit will

578
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: be like I will let this person cook until it's

579
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: really untenable for me, and then I'll blame them and

580
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: act like I don't know, we got them out. I'm

581
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: okay though, But then I'm curious if Musk is wielding

582
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Speaker 1: any more influence over Trump. That's gonna make that difficult. Like,

583
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Speaker 1: then what happens when like that schism happens, If it happens.

584
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 5: If it happens right like I thought I thought it

585
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 5: would for a while, I just thought, like Trump's not

586
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 5: gonna want to be around, like like Elon Musk's like

587
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 5: like autism frankly, because like you know, Trump's Trump's has

588
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 5: a has a past of making fun of people and

589
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 5: being very ablest, and like I simply didn't think that

590
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Speaker 5: he would be able to be in this same room

591
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Speaker 5: as Musk for very long, but they have so clearly

592
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Speaker 5: and openly closed ranks the past few weeks, like like

593
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 5: like in doing media princes together being like like we

594
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 5: know people are like wanting us to turn on each other,

595
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 5: and like we're not going to do that. So like

596
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 5: there is some awareness at least from like Musk and

597
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 5: Trump that like people are like rooting for them to

598
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,719
Speaker 5: like get into a fight, and they've they're in like

599
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 5: having that not happen, right because right now it's benefiting

600
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 5: both of them massively. Like it's what Elon's doing is

601
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 5: allowing Trump to enact so many more things that otherwise

602
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 5: he wouldn't be like, you know, legally allowed to do

603
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 5: because the bureaucratic mechanisms of government are there as safeguards,

604
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 5: not just you know, Congress and not just the courts.

605
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 5: Like bureaucracy helped inhibit Trump from enacting a whole bunch

606
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 5: of the more extreme aspects of his agenda in his

607
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 5: first term, and now that there's this like shared recognition

608
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 5: of that, Trump's all like Trump is more than happy

609
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 5: to let Elon Musk like do the work to dismantle

610
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 5: those roadblocks to then have Trump embrace like total executive power.

611
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Speaker 3: You mentioned the idea of you know, we're all waiting

612
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: to see if the courts hold right, and I'm just

613
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 3: the for that to happen. Like obviously we need judges

614
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: to you know, strike things down or say hey, that's

615
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 3: not legal.

616
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Here's a separate restraining order.

617
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and then we need the Trump administration and

618
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: Elon Musk and everybody to actually respect that. I guess

619
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Speaker 3: I'm wondering, like what you mentioned, like how the will

620
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Speaker 3: of the courts will be enforced? Like what what would

621
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: that look like? Like a conflict between you know, a

622
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: conflict of like what them choosing not to respect the

623
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: will of the courts and the courts having to try

624
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: to enforce their will, Like what what what would that

625
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: look like in the modern world?

626
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 5: I mean, this is like the big question right now.

627
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 5: Like I am not a constitutional law professor. I only

628
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 5: talk to them to get their thoughts and this is

629
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 5: this is the big thing, right, It's what if what

630
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 5: if the court issues are ruling and Trump just says, lol, no,

631
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 5: thank you, and they keep on doing what they are doing,

632
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 5: which like that has happened. That has been happening. There

633
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 5: is still grants and funding that has not resumed. They

634
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 5: have continued to reiterate that they have the power to

635
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 5: limit you said funding, even though they've been ordered by

636
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 5: the court to can to restore it. It's like they

637
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 5: are actively defining the Court's orders increasingly so and becoming

638
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: more brazen about, you know, using rhetoric regarding like if

639
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 5: a judge is ordering something illegal, you just don't need

640
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 5: to follow the judge, which is like, you know, massive

641
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 5: constitutional red flag and what will it take? Right, Like

642
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 5: they're gonna appeal these orders all the way up to

643
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 5: the Supreme Court, probably as far as they can. The

644
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 5: fact that they're defining the orders during this process is

645
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 5: itself like new and bad, like like you're not you're

646
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 5: not supposed to do that either, but like no one

647
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 5: is going to physically stop them, Like who is going

648
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 5: to actually stop them from doing that? And at a

649
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 5: certain point, if the Supreme Court rules that Trump is

650
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 5: in contempt and you know, like who will stop that? Like,

651
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 5: are they gonna like do you think the US marshals

652
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 5: are going to arrest the president? The president that has

653
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 5: Supreme Court approved immunity for official actions, Like who will

654
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 5: actually carry out like any any order to that that

655
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 5: is revolving around like Trump being in contempt of court

656
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Speaker 5: for just actively like defining the the the authority of

657
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 5: the judicial branch. Will will Secret Service let that happen?

658
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 5: Will the like the private military contractors that Trump has

659
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 5: surrounded himself with thanks to Elon Musk, Will they let

660
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 5: marshals even like carry out that order?

661
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: Will?

662
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 5: Will the marshals want to want to do that themselves?

663
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: Will More and more agencies in like local LA enforcement

664
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Speaker 5: and federal be roped under the U, the FPS, the

665
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 5: Federal Protective Service, more of these are could get put

666
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 5: under the control of Pete HeiG Seth like like directly.

667
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 5: And at this point it's it's like it's like a

668
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 5: military that would be like a that would be like

669
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 5: a military assistant coup where they're like cooing the judiciary

670
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 5: as they've kind of already coughed Congress, right, So like

671
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 5: this is this is a big thing. That like we

672
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 5: are waiting to see what will happen, and like I

673
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 5: I can't say for sure because I'm not familiar in

674
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 5: any situation quite like this in American history.

675
00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 3: Ye, Like it's it's very.

676
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 5: Weird and rightening, and like it for me, it's weird

677
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 5: to be like I'm thinking about like every day, like

678
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 5: we are like in the middle of like an actual

679
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 5: coup of the United States, Like people are doing these

680
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,359
Speaker 5: steps and coups can happen internally like that, this is

681
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 5: this is a real thing that is happening, and most

682
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 5: people at least I like interact with outside and just

683
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 5: like don't realize this. They just like don't know the

684
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 5: severity of like what has happened. And this isn't like

685
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 5: being like hyperbolic or anything. It's like this is like

686
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 5: literally what is what is going on right now? Like

687
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 5: if if if you have the executive branch bypass and

688
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 5: deny both the legislative and the judicial branches, like that

689
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 5: is like actual Like people throw around the word fascist

690
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: way too much and they have for the past like

691
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 5: eight years, and like this this you don't you don't

692
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: even need to use that word, Like they're trying to

693
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: basically install like a monarchy and like that. That is,

694
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 5: that is the language that Trump is using. He is

695
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 5: he has referred to himself as a king in like

696
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 5: the past week.

697
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: Right, Well, yeah, what do you think the chances are

698
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: we have another presidential election like in twenty twenty eight?

699
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: I part I personally and like I have like friends

700
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 5: and like analysts who are like I respect, who might

701
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 5: even disagree with me on this. We might have a

702
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 5: different opinion. I think there probably will be a presidential election.

703
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: It may look different, it may operate different. Like the

704
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 5: mechanisms of like securing like votes and people's access to

705
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 5: voting may be very different. Right, if you need to

706
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 5: provide like proof citizenship at every polling station and they

707
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 5: deny people's proof of citizenship because you're a transperson with

708
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 5: an old passport that has a different gender marker. So

709
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 5: now that you're now, they're not gonna be now they're

710
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 5: not gonna accept your vote. Right, There's there's a whole

711
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 5: bunch of things that could alter the way an election

712
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 5: takes place. I think that there probably will be a

713
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 5: presidential election, but I don't know, man, I'm trying to

714
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,959
Speaker 5: survive day by day, Like it's yeah, this is such

715
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 5: a new situation and it's very freaky.

716
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: I mean, like the last time I get, like the

717
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: more famous example that people point to is Andrew Jackson

718
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, the Supreme Court says, I can't just

719
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: totally move like Native Americans, like I'll do whatever I want. Now,

720
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: let me see them trying to force this shit, and

721
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: that was all bad. Yeah, it gave us that tears.

722
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: That is the closest like mirror we have. And like

723
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: you have someone like Vance who is openly using that rhetoric, yeah, exactly,

724
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: like openly.

725
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: Saying like if the courts, if the courts do that,

726
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 5: like have the president go out and say all right,

727
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: now force it, let them enforce it, try try me.

728
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and that's it. It's all like, yeah.

729
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: It's very very disorienting. And I think that's like the

730
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: one thing that I see. A clip that came up

731
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: recently is one of like Russell Vatt, who's you know,

732
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: one of the architects of Project twenty twenty five, who's

733
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: now the head of Office of Management and Budget OMB

734
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: saying like prior to the election that the whole goal

735
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: with all of these cuts that they're making and is

736
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: basically a terror campaign against the administrative state. And I

737
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: want to play his words because when you hear it

738
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 1: from them, like, it's clear that this is this is

739
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: what they've talked about being phase one of how they

740
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: are going to make this transition to full blown you know,

741
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: autocracy or whatever new American monarchy with with King God

742
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: Trump at the top. But this is Russell Vott again

743
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: talking about this is what we need to do to

744
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: get this stuff over the line.

745
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 8: We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. We want

746
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 8: when they work up in the morning, we want them

747
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 8: to not want to go to work because they are

748
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 8: so they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want

749
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 8: their funding to be shut down so that the e

750
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 8: PA can't do all of the rules against our energy

751
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 8: industry because they have no bandwidth financially to do. So

752
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 8: we want to put them in trauma.

753
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Speaker 1: Yeah, can't do all of the rules, and they can't

754
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: do their rules energy and energy. I mean what's also

755
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: infuriating is that this guy has the most coward energy

756
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: ever as they talk about like his fantasy here. But

757
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,399
Speaker 1: now they are at the wheel here and yeah, they're

758
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: pretty they're doing it like they're doing they they frankly

759
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: have done it.

760
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 5: Like there's an executive order issued last week that Trump

761
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: basically said that he has the authority to like rescind

762
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 5: regulations that that that he deems are are like illegal, yeah,

763
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 5: which means that you are giving Trump is saying that

764
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 5: the executive branch has a power, has the power to

765
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: interpret law, to to make riscin an interpret law not

766
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 5: just enacted, which is what constitutionally, like you're supposed to do,

767
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 5: is you're supposed to enact the law, right right, He's saying,

768
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 5: like you can you can like actually like rescind these laws.

769
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,879
Speaker 5: Something that is you know, supposed to be what Congress does, right,

770
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 5: Like it's it's it's it's seasing complete executive power like

771
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 5: it's it is it is some form of like yeah,

772
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,439
Speaker 5: like it's like an oligarchic monarchy like combination, Like it's

773
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 5: it's very it's you know, it's similar to like you know, Hungary,

774
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 5: similar to to how the Soviet block fell apart. You

775
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: can you can like look at some like parallels, but

776
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 5: this is also like I I don't want to overly

777
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 5: rely on historical parallels because this is like yeah, also

778
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 5: like deeply American. This is deeply twenty first century. It

779
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 5: has to do with like the Internet, it has to

780
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 5: do with like tech agent like, it has to do

781
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 5: with like a big tech misinformation misinformation reality tunneling. Like

782
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 5: it's it's so it's so modern and it's so American

783
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 5: that I hesitate to, like to like overly prescribe historical analog.

784
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's the most we can do is

785
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: just to kind of look back and like it's kind

786
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: of like this, but nothing really is a one to

787
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: one thing. It's because there's no Twitter, there's no you know,

788
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: all this misinformation that's around people, like and to your point,

789
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: it's it's not it's we can't quite relate it like

790
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: a one to one thing.

791
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Speaker 5: It's so unique that I think in thirty years we

792
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 5: will refer to what's happening right now is like that's

793
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 5: what like America did in the twenty twenties. Like it's

794
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 5: it's just so seismic that like, yeah, we already kind

795
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 5: of relate like referred to, you know, like the Reagan

796
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 5: deregulation like era of the eighties, right that that's kind

797
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 5: of a thing that we like conceptualize as this is

798
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 5: so much more than that, like already, and it's just starting.

799
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 5: We're like what like a month in right, like right,

800
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:07,399
Speaker 5: it's it's like the fundamental fabric of our country has

801
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 5: been severely altered. Like the country that you knew like

802
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 5: two months ago is gone. Then the way that it operates,

803
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 5: the types of checks and balances it has, the services

804
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 5: it provides. That government no longer exists, like this is

805
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: a different government now, and it feels weird to like

806
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 5: think about that and then watch everyone just kind of

807
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 5: carry on looking at the little black box in their hand.

808
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: Uh are you surprised? I guess that Like the New

809
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 3: York Times, Washington Posts like these traditional mainstream media outlets

810
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 3: are kind of taking it in stride, like they're not

811
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: saying the thing that like this is coup of the

812
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 3: US government, or at least they're not consistently saying that.

813
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 3: It's just like kind of one thing at a time, like.

814
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 5: They're dipping their toes into it. Sometimes it depends who

815
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 5: the journalist is, depends who that the writer is. But

816
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 5: but no, like I think frankly, people are looking to survive,

817
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: like like like worst case scenario, how can I get

818
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 5: out of this Okay, if this like fun, if this

819
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 5: like continues to fundamentally be a different country, like like

820
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 5: that's that's what. That's why Jeff Bezos rescinded the Kamala

821
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 5: endorsement for The Washington Post. Like you are seeing like

822
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: big tech, whether it's you know, Tim Apple, whether it's

823
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 5: Mark Zuckerberg, whether it's Jeff Bezos, the guy at Google

824
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: who I forget his name, who like they have they

825
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 5: have people who have historically provided a degree of resistance

826
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 5: to some of the you know, the crazy Trump stuff.

827
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 5: They are all closing ranks the like we we are

828
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 5: one class now and as song, we will look out

829
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 5: for each other. Now will look out for you Trump

830
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 5: if you look out for us, and like they are,

831
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 5: they're not playing the same game that people played in

832
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen. Like it's there is no hashtag resistance right now.

833
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 5: There is like there is like survival and like that.

834
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 5: I guess that's like the big thing that I'm seeing

835
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 5: is people are trying to like survive in case things

836
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 5: like go go like really really bad.

837
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, for those billionaires, it's clear like rather than like

839
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: bail water on the sinking ship, they're just being like

840
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: where's my lifeboat because I'm not going to fucking help

841
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: this thing. Like, yeah, I'm getting the fuck out of this, and.

842
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break and come back and we'll

843
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 3: talk about uplifting. There we go from here, we'll be

844
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: right back.

845
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 2: And we're back.

846
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 3: Cut you off.

847
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Speaker 1: You're going to ask no, no, no, I guess you know

848
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: we're talking. So now you know, people are in survival mode.

849
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Speaker 2: We are.

850
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: People are being completely they're experiencing the destabilization process of

851
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: this regime and it's doing what's you know, they're they're

852
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: acting on their intended goals and when you look and

853
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: you're like, where, well, what's the opposition? Where where is

854
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,879
Speaker 1: the opposition? We're not seeing much from Democrats. And this

855
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: latest quote and I referenced it on yesterday's episode from

856
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: James cam is we currently just basically he is convinced

857
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: because he is so in tune with everything. He says,

858
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: the GOP is about to collapse in four to six weeks.

859
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: Democrats just need to play possum and they'll be they'll

860
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: be picking picking at the pieces real easy, like, because

861
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: they will be.

862
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 2: They will they will have imploded.

863
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: There will be an implosion, and he is really I

864
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: think all in on this thinking of America like twenty

865
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: nine years ago, you know, basically and thinking that this

866
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Speaker 1: is going to play out in that way. But I'm

867
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: guessing from your conversations like with constitutional lawyers and just

868
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: generally over time with activists who have stood up against

869
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: these sort of like very authoritarian moves from a government.

870
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Speaker 2: Do you see this strategy playing out at all? Or

871
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: is this pure like you.

872
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 5: Said, just do I think the gopeople collapse in four weeks?

873
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the Democrats will just pick up the pieces, right.

874
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: I don't know.

875
00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 5: Uh No, that's that's fucking crazy.

876
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 3: They're at their most powerful that any party has ever

877
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: been a victory left. They have the cultural victory.

878
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 5: They've they've completely would no like like it's absolutely not,

879
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 5: that's like, that's that's pure copium.

880
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 1: It's frightening to know that this is someone I mean,

881
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: granted most people he people listen to him from time

882
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: to time, but he's not the most influential voice. But

883
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 1: it does feel like indicative of generally how the dance,

884
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: like the Democratic Party got us here to begin with,

885
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:32,919
Speaker 1: which is sort of like.

886
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 2: Any minute now, any minute now.

887
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're the one who's flaying like they have completely collapsed.

888
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 5: They they they they tried to do like a weird

889
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: both sides of the campaign last year that didn't work.

890
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 5: Now they have no idea what to do. They they

891
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,479
Speaker 5: don't know how to talk to people. All. Uh, they're

892
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 5: just very off putting and smarmy and no like it's

893
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 5: it's they they've I think in order to see any

894
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 5: type of like resistance from an opposition party that are

895
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 5: the actual like like organizational mechanisms of the Democratic Party

896
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,360
Speaker 5: needs to be like completely dismantled and like reformed, like

897
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 5: I I, whatever advisors they have they have had working

898
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 5: for them for the past eight years need to go

899
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 5: in a hole far away, and we need to try

900
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 5: something new because this hasn't worked right, Like I I

901
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 5: I don't, I have no idea. I think some of

902
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 5: them are trying to buy time for the midterms, like

903
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 5: thinking that the midterms will just go out, you know,

904
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 5: and everything will be fine. People will be sick of

905
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 5: like the Trump busyness, and then we'll like retake Congress,

906
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 5: we'll we'll we'll we'll make everything right. And like frankly,

907
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 5: like for people that I know, like we don't have

908
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 5: that time, like people's lives are being affected right now,

909
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 5: Like not just people, not just like a massive amount

910
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 5: of the federal workforcet like losing their jobs, but the

911
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 5: like the like insane amount of like racism that's being

912
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 5: normalized and like codified right now, transphobia, uh, the the

913
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 5: the the anti immigrant like sentiments that have been so normalized,

914
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 5: including under President Biden. Like we don't have two years,

915
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 5: like it's things are happening like right now, Like my

916
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 5: brain is so far away from the midterms at this point.

917
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that does feel like such a coping strategy too,

918
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: because it you're also assuming that the norms are still existing,

919
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,080
Speaker 1: where it's like, well, what'll happen is they're gonna have

920
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: too much dip on their chip. Then the voters will

921
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: be like ah ah and then they go, oh, we

922
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: better dial it back or else they're not gonna like

923
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: us anymore. But all of their moves, I mean, like

924
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: even on Fox News, the way they're even talking now.

925
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: I just want to play a clip from like Fox

926
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: or may not even play it, but Brian kill me.

927
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: It was essentially saying, you know, because there are all

928
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: these town halls where constituents were yelling at these Republican

929
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: members of Congress, like in deeply red districts, like very

930
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: safe red districts. Otherwise they wouldn't have even tried to

931
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: have a town hall. But Brian kill me. He's like,

932
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, they have people going up there saying like, oh,

933
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: I lost my job because the dose stuff or whatever,

934
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: and maybe you know, this is just part and even

935
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 1: if they did vote for Trump, this is gonna be

936
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: part of trying to close that deficit. And this is

937
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: just kind of what's going to have to happen for

938
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: America to get back on track. And now they are

939
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: trying to sell this back to the people as being like, yeah,

940
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: the way you're gonna win is by losing everything, and

941
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: that's what.

942
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 2: We hopefully you can internalize that.

943
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: I don't know how well that's going, because there is

944
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: one thing Americans are. They do feel entitled to a

945
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: certain quality of life and certain you know, especially like

946
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: white you know, most like those sort of like upper

947
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: middle class MAGA voters too, who tend to be the loudest.

948
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: But I'm I just don't know, like that's where I

949
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: see that kind of stuff and go, I don't even

950
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: know if they're even interested in elections because their whole

951
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: their strategy seems to like whatever, fuck.

952
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 2: Them if they think they're going to vote against us,

953
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: like we're not going anywhere.

954
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: It sort of seems to be the energy, which also

955
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: very much is alarming for me to see.

956
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 3: Your pain is just weakness leaving the body, you know where? Yeah, exactly, exactly,

957
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: All right, well, should we do some less depressing non

958
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: political content real quick here or about the Oscar race

959
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 3: the award season? Yeah, guys.

960
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: So.

961
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 3: One of the biggest criticisms of the oscars, other than

962
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: over long running time and general pointlessness, is how predictable

963
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 3: they've become. Like, going in, people usually have an idea

964
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 3: it's like between two movies essentially, and usually that that's

965
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: like best case scenario. This year, it seemed like Amelia

966
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 3: Perez ooh win and that shit's not gonna happen now

967
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 3: thanks to great award award campaign that they pr campaign.

968
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, shocking.

969
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 5: It's even it's not shocking because it is very Oscar

970
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 5: baby like for like liberals who want to feel good

971
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 5: like all all of the Green Book. But come on, guys, yeah,

972
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 5: the first thought, best thought, that's they spent five minutes

973
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 5: thinking about the idea of.

974
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 3: Trans people and wrote a.

975
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 5: About it, an extremely transphobic movie.

976
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, So Anora won the PGA Award two weeks ago,

977
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 3: and everyone's like, all right, it's a lot. That's because

978
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 3: so these are all or like Producers Guild sag AFTRA

979
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 3: like BAFTA.

980
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 5: These are all I'm a WG member, I'll say, you know, okay,

981
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 5: So these are.

982
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 3: All groups that also vote on the Academy Awards. So

983
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 3: you're kind of getting a picture of who these people's

984
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 3: favorite movie or what these people's favorite movies are, how

985
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: they're going to vote. So Producers Guild Anora won. Then

986
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: last Night Conclave or on Sunday Night Conclave won Screen

987
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 3: Actor Guild Award, so that which nobody really saw coming,

988
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 3: and it also won the BAFTA, and now it seems

989
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:59,280
Speaker 3: like that might win there that brutalist I thought Conclave

990
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: was a good time at the movies personally, but I

991
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 3: also really liked A Nora. I've enjoyed a lot of these.

992
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: I have not seen the Bob Dylan one, but that

993
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: was another upset victory. Timothy shallow May won the Screen

994
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 3: Actors Guild Award for playing Bob Dylan in a complete

995
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 3: unknown instead of Adrian Brody for the brutalist who had

996
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 3: been winning all the other ones.

997
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 5: It makes sense that the SAG Awards are like, no,

998
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 5: we're not going to give this to you, Adrian. Nice

999
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 5: try buddy.

1000
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 3: Yeah wait, why does it make sense? Actually?

1001
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 5: Oh, because of because of because of the AI accent

1002
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 5: work the dumb film I can like screen actors specifically,

1003
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,480
Speaker 5: we're gonna be like, come on man.

1004
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, his accent was helpfully, it was helped along

1005
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 3: in Enhanced AI enhanced enhanced. But so Shallo May got

1006
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 3: up all leather gave kind of a weird, earnest speech

1007
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: about how he wants to be one of the greats.

1008
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 3: Also kind of shaded the biopic genre, which is what

1009
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 3: he was winning for. He called it tired. He said

1010
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 3: he wanted to thank the entire cast who in the

1011
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 3: genre doing a biopick that could be perhaps tired. Gave it.

1012
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 3: There all gave it. They're all is such a wild like.

1013
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,839
Speaker 5: I mean, I can I can see what he's saying

1014
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 5: there in terms of like the music, I am tired

1015
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 5: of kind of low quality music biopicks that that keep

1016
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 5: keep coming every year. And if if, if there's a

1017
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 5: team that's trying to make one but like but good, actually,

1018
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: like I can, I can kind of see what he's saying, because.

1019
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, like yeah, the filmmaker who made his also made

1020
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 3: uh not Walk Hard Walk the Line, which is I

1021
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 3: think the quintessential biopick that when people are like this

1022
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 3: is getting tired, they're thinking of Walk the Line and

1023
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 3: Ray probably as like the two movies that are just

1024
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: like the most down the middle by So it's interesting

1025
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 3: that he called out the cast while talking about a

1026
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 3: genre that the director of the movie kind of kind

1027
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 3: of helped put where it currently is in terms of tiredness.

1028
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 3: But this is this is the line from a speech

1029
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 3: that really got me.

1030
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: Oh no, we should let's put it. I think we

1031
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: should hear it in his words because it's a little

1032
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: bit more. Yeah, let me put this up here. Here's

1033
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 1: the d his ending to this speech. You know, you know,

1034
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: he shout it out to thick everybody in the film,

1035
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 1: but then he sort of also just wanted to say

1036
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 1: a little something for himself to let people know how

1037
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: Timothy Shallow may views his career.

1038
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 9: So I'm deeply grateful to them. And lastly, I can't

1039
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 9: downplay the significance of this award because it means the

1040
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 9: most to me. And I know we're in a subjective business,

1041
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 9: but the truth is, I'm really in pursuit of greatness.

1042
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 9: I know people don't usually talk like that, but I

1043
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 9: want to be one of the greats. I'm inspired by

1044
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 9: the greats. I'm inspired by the greats here tonight. I'm

1045
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 9: as inspired by Daniel day Lewis, Marlon Brando, and Viola

1046
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 9: Davis as I am by Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps.

1047
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 3: And I want to be up there.

1048
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 9: So I'm deeply grateful to that this This doesn't signify that,

1049
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 9: but it's a little more fuel.

1050
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 3: It's a little more AMMO to keep going.

1051
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1052
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: This doesn't signify He goes, I mean this this ain't it? Like,

1053
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: come on, guys, all I'm saying is I'm on my way.

1054
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: You know you got to play in the CBA on your.

1055
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,319
Speaker 2: Way to the NB. You know what I mean to say.

1056
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 3: It's so funny that he was like, guys, I think

1057
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 3: you're like as cool as Michael Jordan, Michael Phelps. It's

1058
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 3: just it's like you're trying to rule actually to a

1059
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 3: ten year old. It's so fucking funny. I love it.

1060
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: You guys are like my Michael Jordan, Like, I'm I

1061
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 3: guess I'm kind of a weirdough but you know, I'm

1062
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: like into acting, So you're on the level with like

1063
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 3: people who are like what, like, that's an insult to

1064
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 3: compare me to Michael Phelps the Swimmer. You just compared

1065
00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: Marlon Brando to Michael Phelps the Swimmer.

1066
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 5: Marley Brado kind of is the Michael Phelps of acting,

1067
00:54:59,160 --> 00:54:59,479
Speaker 5: you know.

1068
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: Many ways, Garson, how far how far off is Timothy

1069
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: shallow May.

1070
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 2: From being one of the greats? Do you think?

1071
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 5: I I think he's actually well on his way. I've

1072
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 5: been interested in uh uh, like Tom Cruise's like comments

1073
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 5: to Timothy. But like, you know, you should learn all

1074
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 5: these various like skills because people when you get get

1075
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 5: cast in films, like, they AREN'TNNA, they're not They're not

1076
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 5: gonna teach you to sort of fight well, so you

1077
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,919
Speaker 5: should you should learn how to do that. You should

1078
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 5: learn how to based jump, you should like you should

1079
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 5: learn how to do all of these things if you

1080
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 5: want to like be in this for like for your life.

1081
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 5: I I think he's actually like very sincere there and

1082
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 5: like wants to actually be like like you know, like

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Speaker 5: a like a generational talent. I think, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 5: It is a little silly, but I'm I am, I am,

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00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 5: I'm low key. I'm low key in his camp here.

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Speaker 5: I can, I can. I can understand the urge to

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Speaker 5: be like one of the best at what you do,

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00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 5: because otherwise, like what's the point? And like this is

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Speaker 5: this is an aspect of people who like get to

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Speaker 5: that level of like their artistry that you know, it's

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00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 5: it's it's maybe a little bit cringe. It's maybe be

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Speaker 5: a little bit disconnected from like the reality of everyday

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Speaker 5: life for people, but like I get it.

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Speaker 1: I think there's something too, Like just generally though too

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Speaker 1: it's hard most people wouldn't announce their intention total what

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Speaker 1: they're doing with their career because of just the massive

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Speaker 1: fear of failure and also be like what do you think.

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Speaker 2: You're better than us?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're saying this stuff. But also like I

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Speaker 1: think anyone who has to do anything that requires self belief,

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Speaker 1: like you have to tell yourself these things or else

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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen.

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Speaker 2: Like you like not to be like I'm going.

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Speaker 5: To be magic, but no, like it is like, yeah, but.

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Speaker 1: You have to, but you have to back yourself, like

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Speaker 1: without that kind of confidence, it's not it's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: But it's just funny though too to be like.

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Speaker 1: You know, I want it like the mj of acting,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, the Phelps of acting. I'm like, yes, Timothy,

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Speaker 1: just that. Let's let's see that Michael Phelps biopic for

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Speaker 1: him as Michael Jordan.

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Speaker 3: We'll see, we'll see.

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Speaker 5: Well, now that Trump won the election, that might be

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Speaker 5: coming back.

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Speaker 1: They're like, they're gonna say, who's to say a black

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Speaker 1: guy has to play Michael Jordan and the Michael Jordan

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Speaker 1: bile pick.

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Speaker 2: I think that's what.

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Speaker 5: It would be DEI casting.

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Speaker 10: He should have a full head of hair, like I yeah,

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Speaker 10: I like, I'm trying to think of where the Michael

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Speaker 10: Jordan Michael Pulps say, like, I don't the only thing

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Speaker 10: I care like, I I think it's a yes, noteworthy

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Speaker 10: for him to be like that.

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Speaker 3: I know this is cringe. I want to be great.

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00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to like unabashedly pursue this and not be

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00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:36,919
Speaker 3: like whatever an award that doesn't matter. But why did

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Speaker 3: he why was he like it's it's almost like Michael

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Speaker 3: Jordan and Michael Like not quite Michael Jordan. I'm as

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00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: inspired by Daniel da Lewis. Marlon Brando of Violent Davis says,

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00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 3: I am by Michael Jordan and Michael Phelps, Like is

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00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 3: he because he has had like a little run here

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00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: where he like went on ESPN shows and was kind

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00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,200
Speaker 3: of revealed himself to be a bit of a sports guy.

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00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 3: I knows sports like and that's who I am now

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Speaker 3: to the point that in my award speeches, I need

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00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:13,440
Speaker 3: to be aiming for people who listen to the Ringer podcasts,

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00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 3: like I have to combine uh, sports and pop culture

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00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 3: to make sense of this to people. Or maybe he's

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00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 3: just being earnest. Maybe he's just like I think, are

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Speaker 3: Michael Jordan Michael Phelps.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the thing. It's like he's being like dude.

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00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: I also I really like sports too, and that's kind

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00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 1: of I'm also drawing inspiration from it. I think it's

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00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: just so funny because I think it's funny because it's

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00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: different than you would never hear those names evoked in

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00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: the context, Like I feel like artists think of other

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00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 1: artists as being the people they strive for where he's like,

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Speaker 1: I want to be like that MJ poster and you're like, yeah,

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00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: that's related, Like we all want to be the m

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Speaker 1: from the free throw line.

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00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 3: Like Adrian Brody already looked heartbroken to be losing what

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00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: like when he went up he like seemed like he

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00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 3: was like ashes, and then to have him go up

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00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 3: there and be like, dang Adrian, like you're kind of

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00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 3: you're like the Charles Barkley of this shit. It's just

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00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 3: so I can't imagine what was going through his mind.

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00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 3: Like Adrian Brody doesn't know who Michael Phelps is.

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Speaker 1: He's probably smoked weed with him after he put that

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00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: rocked away, gone on that one bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but the Rossaway great moments in popular culture. I

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00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 3: loved that the SNL fifty shouted that out.

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00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: The repeated use of blackface, but then they had to

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00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: censor everything. They're like, oh, look y'all, we know we're

1165
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: trying to own it, but we can't really reshame ourselves

1166
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: because it's pretty fucked up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's got I Garrison, I'm glad you are supportive

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Speaker 3: of your peer. Maybe slightly elder, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, at the very least Timothy is a former

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00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 5: member of the Twin Council, so there is a still

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Speaker 5: a degree of solidarity here.

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Speaker 3: He's still pretty Yeah.

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Speaker 5: That I do have to bestow onto onto him as

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Speaker 5: a former as a former member.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. Well, Garrison Davis, what a pleasure

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Speaker 3: having you on the podcast as always? Where can people

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Speaker 3: find you? Follow you, read you, hear you all that

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Speaker 3: good stuff?

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Speaker 5: Well, my show is it could happen here that I'm

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Speaker 5: on some episodes of because we release five episodes a week,

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Speaker 5: including a new weekly kind of news roundup series on

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 5: Fridays called Executive Disorder. So that's where I can be heard.

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Speaker 5: You can read my work at Shatterzone dot substack dot com,

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Speaker 5: and you can find me on Blue Sky and and

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Speaker 5: X the Everything app at Hungry bow Tie.

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Speaker 3: I do appreciate that you refer to it, but it's

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Speaker 3: the proper name X the Everything App.

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Speaker 5: I don't I don't believe. I don't believe in dead naming,

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Speaker 5: you know, I gotta.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. Is there a work of media that

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Speaker 3: you've been enjoying.

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Speaker 5: There's a really good article by a writer I like

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Speaker 5: on a C C Helmet Girl, which is the Substack

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Speaker 5: She did a really good article last week, kind of

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Speaker 5: covering it like like trans cultural issues. I guess in

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Speaker 5: kind of a break from the depressing news regarding the

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Speaker 5: loss of our rights. But it was a very good

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Speaker 5: article on on on like the cultural on the cultural front.

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Speaker 5: I guess I enjoyed reading, been trying to read more,

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Speaker 5: been trying to read more.

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Speaker 3: I guess so couldn't be me. I'm just sure that's

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Speaker 3: that's great something to aspire to and that sounds awesome.

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Speaker 3: We will link off to that article in the footnotes

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Speaker 3: miles where can people find you with their workimedia you've

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Speaker 1: and I talk about season eleven, episode one of ninety

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Lionel a work of media.

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Speaker 1: I like, let's see there, it's more just again, how

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Speaker 1: Twitter or x the Everything app. It's alive, it's not dead.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what anyone says. I tweeted this in

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Speaker 1: November twelfth of twenty twenty, right after the twenty twenty election,

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Speaker 1: as a joke, right when everyone is talking about how

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Speaker 1: the Trump campaign was filing lawsuits to stop the steal,

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Speaker 1: I said breaking Judge Marilyn Million has told the Trump

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Speaker 1: campaign to quote get the fuck out of here after

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Speaker 1: unsuccessfully filing a lawsuit in the People's court to stop

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Speaker 1: absentee ballot counting. I just got a reply from this

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Speaker 1: like a few weeks ago from a total fucking fake bot,

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Speaker 1: Barbara Crawford at Barbara like garble numbers stocks. Yeah, sorry, sorry,

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, and it just said not look not

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Speaker 1: loving her now, dem not watching anymore. Years after this,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, could you be more of a fake thing?

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Speaker 1: And then someone else just replied to it. It's all

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Speaker 1: all very very confusing. So shout out to that app

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Speaker 1: for just being the source of all kinds of entertainment

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Speaker 2: It turns out, yeah, that's what you'll find me, and

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Speaker 2: that's what.

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Speaker 3: You can find me on Twitter. Check Underscore Brian on

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Speaker 3: Blue Sky, Jack Obi The number one working media I've

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Speaker 3: been enjoying is from the Pelicans Film Room. Pell at

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Speaker 3: Pell's Film Room on Twitter. Number eleven just put on

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Speaker 3: the greatest baby crawl race performance you'll ever see. It's

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Speaker 3: like one of those halftime events where they do a

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Speaker 3: bunch of babies the mom or something the pan. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they crawl from mom to dad and this baby just motors.

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Speaker 3: But it's interesting. I want to link off to it

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Speaker 3: because it's interesting. Everybody like has their technique. They're like

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Speaker 3: lifting the baby up, putting it down, lifting the baby up,

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Speaker 3: putting it down. Like it's like they're like winding a

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Speaker 3: car up or something like. There's like a technique forgetting

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Speaker 3: your baby. Anyways, it is an incredible feat. And as

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Speaker 3: the baby crosses the finish line, there's a mom right

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Speaker 3: next to the baby that like you can see physically

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Speaker 3: being deflated. How badly her baby just got it fass kicked. Anyways.

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Speaker 3: You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist were

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Speaker 3: the Daily Zeicheist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan

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Speaker 3: page and a website Daily zeikeist dot com where we

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Speaker 3: post our episode and our foot Nope, no where we

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Speaker 3: look off to the information that we talked about in

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Speaker 3: today's episode. Well there's a song that we think you

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Speaker 3: might enjoy, Miles, is there a song you think people

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Speaker 3: might enjoy?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the icon ROBERTA. Flack actually passed away Monday. You know,

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Speaker 1: she was battling als eighty eight years old some people.

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Speaker 1: I think the easiest thing to connect ROBERTA. Flack to

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Speaker 1: probably most people's minds, is Killing Me Softly.

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Speaker 2: That is a ROBERTA. Flack track.

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Speaker 1: So let's go out on that one. This is killing

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Speaker 1: me Softly with his song by ROBERTA Flack. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think just a seminal artist.

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Speaker 2: And yet everybody bump some ROBURTA.

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Speaker 3: Flack today, Bump some Flak. All right. We will link

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Speaker 3: off to that in the footnotes. The Daily zeitgeis is

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Speaker 3: your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us

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Speaker 3: this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what

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Speaker 3: is trending, and we'll talk to you all then.

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Speaker 2: Bye bye