WEBVTT - Fightin' Fish Sweep Phillies in Statement Series...But Still Selling?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Kyle Stowers and you're listening to Fish

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<v Speaker 1>On First.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome into fish On First Live, part of the Foul

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<v Speaker 2>Territory Network. I'm Jeremiah Geiger joining me today, Eli Sussman,

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<v Speaker 2>Sean Millrick, and this is gonna be a fun show

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<v Speaker 2>because the Marlins broke the streak twelve straight losses. They

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<v Speaker 2>had been swept over and over. It felt like they

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<v Speaker 2>were never gonna win a game, and just when it

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<v Speaker 2>seemed like all hope was lost, the Marlins faced off

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<v Speaker 2>against the Philadelphia Phillies and sweep them three games to nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>including a couple of really awesome games like the first game,

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<v Speaker 2>a comeback win, the last game today that just ended

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<v Speaker 2>about an hour ago, another awesome comeback down six to nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They find a way to get it done at a

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<v Speaker 2>time in which they needed to sweep the Phillies. If

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<v Speaker 2>there was ever a series that needed to be swept,

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<v Speaker 2>this was it. The Marlins left for dead. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the fan base is despondent, and then they respond

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<v Speaker 2>they're the fighting Fish. So we're gonna break down each

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<v Speaker 2>game of this series, and let's start with this. Mattinee

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<v Speaker 2>Marlins win eight to six. Griffin Conine is the hero

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<v Speaker 2>in this one, with a go ahead two run blast

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<v Speaker 2>in the bottom of the eighth. Pete Fairbanks goes out

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<v Speaker 2>and pitches a clean ninth inning to get the save

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<v Speaker 2>to cap off the sweep. So I'm gonna start with

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<v Speaker 2>Eli your takeaway from this game in particular, because this

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<v Speaker 2>was probably one of the more entertaining wins of this season.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest shock at the very end, as you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Pete Fairbanks actually making it easy in the ninth inning.

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<v Speaker 3>That has not been the case for so much of

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<v Speaker 3>the year. But in all seriousness, this really was as

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<v Speaker 3>extreme as it gets. It got the one probability swing

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<v Speaker 3>from this game. I think it maxed out at the

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<v Speaker 3>Phillies having a ninety six percent chance of winning at

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<v Speaker 3>one point or at really multiple points in this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see if I could get that up right there.

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<v Speaker 3>In the middle endings, Ryan Gusto start wasn't particularly good.

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<v Speaker 3>Hasis Lozardo on the other side, was cruising through the

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<v Speaker 3>first four plus six nothing Phillies at one point. And

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<v Speaker 3>even though the Marlins do have this reputation of coming

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<v Speaker 3>back in games when things are going well, it's never

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<v Speaker 3>been like this. It has not been from a six

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<v Speaker 3>run deficit that is the biggest comeback of their entire season,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they actually top it off and finish it

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<v Speaker 3>off by pulling ahead and winning the game late on

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<v Speaker 3>Conine again, as we'll get to he had more heroics

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<v Speaker 3>earlier in this series. I just want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>Conine for a little bit, both him and Bert Bert had.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the one that really gave him the spark

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<v Speaker 3>in this game too, when he hit that home run

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<v Speaker 3>earlier that finally give him some signs of life, Like

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<v Speaker 3>it really did look like this one was going to

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<v Speaker 3>get out of hand early when the Marlins are going

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<v Speaker 3>to Dax Fulton already down by six runs, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was both those guys showing their power to the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the field that has really wowed me. Both those

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<v Speaker 3>guys were top of mind entering the season as guys

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<v Speaker 3>that would be part of this Marlins roster, but it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been a stretch to see them as anything

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<v Speaker 3>close to true middle of the order guys you could

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<v Speaker 3>rely on, and both of them have been if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to really stretch it out, like the last two

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<v Speaker 3>months really well, since Griff came back from his injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>since Bert came back from TRIPLEA. Both of them have

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<v Speaker 3>been been the best hitters on the team during that stretch.

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<v Speaker 3>They really had been the most important offensive players on

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<v Speaker 3>this team for a very excented stretch that goes back

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<v Speaker 3>to when things are going well and when things are

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<v Speaker 3>going really badly during the losing streak. You like pull

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<v Speaker 3>up the numbers that Bert had and that griff Head

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<v Speaker 3>during that stretch they were still pretty good. It was

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<v Speaker 3>basically them two on their own islands offensively when we

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<v Speaker 3>were really frustrated by the lack of performance from this

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<v Speaker 3>Marlins team at the play those past couple weeks. Those

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<v Speaker 3>guys have been the constant for a really long stretch

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<v Speaker 3>of the season. That has to rank as a pretty

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<v Speaker 3>big surprise that they've been so crucial to the scene.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of those guys acquired very cheaply. Originally what the

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<v Speaker 3>Griffin that trade six plus years ago and totally forgotten

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<v Speaker 3>about passed over the Rule five draft, really guy that

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<v Speaker 3>faded to the back of people's minds, and then Byrd

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<v Speaker 3>as a minor league free agent signed a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. Those too, in particularly, I just can't they're

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<v Speaker 3>been They've been absolutely they carry the team in these

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<v Speaker 3>past few games, but it's really been a long stretch

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<v Speaker 3>of having those two as the most important hitters, and

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<v Speaker 3>I that has meant everything. That has really made the

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<v Speaker 3>difference between the Marlins potentially flung all the way out

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<v Speaker 3>of this and versus now being in this really awkward

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<v Speaker 3>limbo situation just because they have a couple of key

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<v Speaker 3>hitters like that that seem legit.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like when it comes to this Marlins team,

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<v Speaker 2>this series against the Mets is everything, this weekend series,

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<v Speaker 2>because you know you have momentum.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to continue that momentum three straight. It's good.

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<v Speaker 1>You got a serious sweep.

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<v Speaker 2>Sweeps are rare in baseball, and the last five series

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<v Speaker 2>have been a series sweep. But typically it's rare, and

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<v Speaker 2>in a one hundred and sixty two game season, you

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<v Speaker 2>tend to brush.

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<v Speaker 1>Over a result or two. You know, you lose some,

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<v Speaker 1>you win some.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is where the rubber meets the road for

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<v Speaker 2>the Fish if they want to compete. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that second game of the series, because this was an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute pitcher's duel between Sandy Alcantra and Aaron Nola, who's

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<v Speaker 2>having a really bad year but pitched pretty well in

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<v Speaker 2>this one, just one run in the first inning, and

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<v Speaker 2>that was a courtesy of a Kyle Stowers home run,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was all the Marlins needed to get a

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<v Speaker 2>one to zero victory. Sandy Alcantra is turning back the clock.

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<v Speaker 2>That was Vin Hitch. Sandy looked like twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Sandy al Contra.

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<v Speaker 2>Seven shutout innings, He walked just one, scattered four hits,

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<v Speaker 2>and struck out five. His season er now is a

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<v Speaker 2>three point eight to two, so miles ahead of where

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<v Speaker 2>it was at this point last year. And a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of concerns surrounding Sandy was he's not the same pitcher,

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<v Speaker 2>He's not an ace, he's not reliable, and he has

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<v Speaker 2>put those those murmurings to rest. I mean, that was

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute gem at a time in which the Marlins

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<v Speaker 2>really needed it to happen. And again Pete Fairbanks a

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<v Speaker 2>perfect ninth inning, struck out a couple to get the safe.

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<v Speaker 2>So back to back days for Fairbanks getting getting the

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<v Speaker 2>safe and Sandy al Contra was masterful.

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<v Speaker 1>Eli.

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<v Speaker 2>Your takeaway with Sandy just how good he's been consistent,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been for the majority.

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<v Speaker 1>Of this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it really has been a big difference compared to

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<v Speaker 3>it's I'd say it's similar to where he was exactly

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<v Speaker 3>a year ago. But it's the thing is, the first

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<v Speaker 3>three months of last year was a total wreck, and

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<v Speaker 3>this time it's been it's been more good than bad,

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<v Speaker 3>and throughout it it's been eating endings, which has been

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<v Speaker 3>so incredibly valuable, especially right now. This has been the

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<v Speaker 3>stretch of the season going back a few weeks and

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<v Speaker 3>continuing for at least another few weeks that the bullpen

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<v Speaker 3>is shorthanded. There's only so many guys in this bullpen

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<v Speaker 3>at all that you want to see pitch. Michael Peterson,

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<v Speaker 3>for example, they won this series, they swept this series

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<v Speaker 3>without him because he's day to day with his own

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<v Speaker 3>minor issue, and that really leaves very few guys that

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<v Speaker 3>you want pitching outside of Sandy on the days that

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<v Speaker 3>he starts. So that's been all the more crucial is him.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I think it was too much to

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<v Speaker 3>ask to expect him to throw a shutout any time

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<v Speaker 3>it takes a mound, but to have him be really

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<v Speaker 3>close to that is everything. And as you mentioned, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a game in particular that went off scripts because

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<v Speaker 3>you were very generous to Nola. I mean He's not

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<v Speaker 3>only having a bad year this year, he was bad

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<v Speaker 3>last year too. He's been one of the worst stars

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball going back the last two years as a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an era around over the course of two seasons,

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<v Speaker 3>over two hundred innings of a near six ERA guy

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<v Speaker 3>that's very hittable. They get to him early and just

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<v Speaker 3>did not add on whatsoever. So it's interesting given the

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<v Speaker 3>fact that the offense, of course was great in both

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<v Speaker 3>the first game, in the last game, and then the

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<v Speaker 3>middle one, just had that one solo home run that

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<v Speaker 3>ended up holding up. I didn't think that'd be enough

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<v Speaker 3>to hold up over the course of this game. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is something that came to mind to me when

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<v Speaker 3>I was previewing the series on the last stream, is

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<v Speaker 3>that the Phillies offense has been one of the worst

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<v Speaker 3>in baseball this year. I think that would shock a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people. They happened. They've been carried so much

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<v Speaker 3>by Schwarber at times Bryce Harper, but even he's been

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit up and down, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>outside of them, almost everybody else is underperforming, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that is I can't be too shocked about them shutting

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<v Speaker 3>out this team despite the name recognition they have in

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<v Speaker 3>the veteran presence. For whatever reason, they've not gotten to go.

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<v Speaker 3>And this has been the worst Phillies offense in many years,

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<v Speaker 3>probably since the last time they were rebuilding, and so

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<v Speaker 3>at least in one game in the series, Marlins were

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<v Speaker 3>able to fully capitalize on that in one run actually

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<v Speaker 3>turned out to be enough for a rare instance.

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<v Speaker 2>Sean, any takeaways from watching Sandy or just in general

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<v Speaker 2>and that pictures duel that classic one zero Marlins win.

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<v Speaker 4>Just to say about that being what your ace is

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<v Speaker 4>for and you're supposed to do, Like if that was

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<v Speaker 4>after getting that crazy win you know, the night before

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<v Speaker 4>you know which we'll get to, then that's one of

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<v Speaker 4>those moments where your need, you know, your ace to

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<v Speaker 4>step up, and Sandy just taking that mantle that he's

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<v Speaker 4>taken so many times, you know, in the past, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, delivering one of his best efforts you know

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<v Speaker 4>of the season, you know, at least since way back

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<v Speaker 4>in the beginning of it was you know, had to

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<v Speaker 4>mean so much, you know, to that clubhouse and set up,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, set everything up for today. Honestly, then that's

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<v Speaker 4>I was just just why we love to have him

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<v Speaker 4>on the team and what you'd love to see and

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<v Speaker 4>why you hope he why you hope he sticks around.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny that we can always find all these interesting,

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<v Speaker 3>well i should say, somewhat contrived records, hyper specific records

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<v Speaker 3>for Sandy. So another one that came up with is

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<v Speaker 3>he said the franchise record for quality starts in a

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<v Speaker 3>career passing freaking Alaska. He's just a couple starts away

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<v Speaker 3>from Ennings pitched setting that record, and then a few

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<v Speaker 3>our starts after that he'll set the record for total

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<v Speaker 3>career starts. So if you slice it down, you can

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<v Speaker 3>find something historic. And every time it takes the mound,

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<v Speaker 3>just a reminder that basically nobody in franchise history has

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<v Speaker 3>been had this long tenure as a pitcher with this

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<v Speaker 3>Marlins organization. So it's not just the quality, it's now

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<v Speaker 3>the quantity is getting incredible. I mean we should note

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<v Speaker 3>like the tiny, tiny possibility that what is it a

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<v Speaker 3>two percent chance that this is his last start as

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<v Speaker 3>a Marlin. I know last year at this time that

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<v Speaker 3>was it felt like the totally flipped. It felt like

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<v Speaker 3>every single time he was taking the mound, it was

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<v Speaker 3>emotional feeling like that could be the last one this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Though it's not impossible, it seems pretty close to it,

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<v Speaker 3>just because it's clear that he has so much sentimental

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<v Speaker 3>value to his organization. He's more valuable to the Marlins

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<v Speaker 3>than he would be to any other organization in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of what they could get via trade. Just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>laying out the facts that that was the last time

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<v Speaker 3>he'll pitch, and in Miami before the trade deadline, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the last time he'll pitch, period. This was the last

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<v Speaker 3>start before the deadline, because the deadline is gonna come

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<v Speaker 3>right after the Mets. Oh, I should say on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>On Sunday, he'll have one more outing right before the

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<v Speaker 3>deadline in New York. I do hope people enjoyed seeing

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<v Speaker 3>him on the mound though this most recent one, And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's very fitting that, just in the small

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<v Speaker 3>chance that they get blown away and do the typical

0:11:41.400 --> 0:11:44.520
<v Speaker 3>Marlins thing that's also unpopular, at least he went out

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<v Speaker 3>in that case on a very high note.

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<v Speaker 2>We we'll talk about the deadline later on in the show,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, real quick on Sandy, I would be shocked

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<v Speaker 2>if he gets moved. It just feels like the way

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<v Speaker 2>this season has gone. He has an extra chip on

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<v Speaker 2>his shoulder, something to prove, and he's means so much

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<v Speaker 2>to this Marlins team.

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<v Speaker 1>ELI wanted to ask, I'll get.

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<v Speaker 2>Responses from both of you guys, But the way Sandy

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<v Speaker 2>has pitched this year, if you think about the entirety

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<v Speaker 2>of his career, is he the best starting pitcher in

0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Marlin's history? Is it fair that we can call him

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<v Speaker 2>that given all he's accomplished, even with you know, really

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<v Speaker 2>no postseason success. He's been in the postseason twice, but

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<v Speaker 2>didn't pitch in twenty twenty three with the injury. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's fair to call Sandy el Contra the best

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<v Speaker 2>starter in Marlin's history.

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<v Speaker 3>It's an interesting It's al as gonna be difficult to

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<v Speaker 3>compare him to Jose, just because he never saw Jose

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<v Speaker 3>really as anything but awesome, given how short he was

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<v Speaker 3>around and how amazing he was at his peak in

0:12:52.400 --> 0:12:55.920
<v Speaker 3>his individual games. I think the dominance that Jose Fernandez

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<v Speaker 3>had was a slightly different tier than Sandy was. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you look at all the rate stats, those still

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<v Speaker 3>and those will always I would say for a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time, a lot of those stats that he put

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<v Speaker 3>up are going to be in touchable in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>having a mid twoes career era and the strikeout rate

0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.760
<v Speaker 3>that he had, the performance specifically at home that Jose

0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.280
<v Speaker 3>Fernandez had during his career, those are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>very difficult to touch. At the same time, it's yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>the tenure has been so different, the way that Sandy

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<v Speaker 3>has kind of gravitated towards his leadership role on this

0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:30.480
<v Speaker 3>Marlins teem, The way that he's been so he's just

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<v Speaker 3>been He's gone incredibly mature. He's matured before our eyes

0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.960
<v Speaker 3>and seeing him like grow up to be by default

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<v Speaker 3>like the veteran leader of this team and to make

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<v Speaker 3>a difference in that respect has been a big part

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<v Speaker 3>of his legacy. So I'd say his it's in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of his legacy, I think he's going to be the

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<v Speaker 3>most beloved individual starting pitcher that this team has had,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's yeah, it depends how he wanted to define best.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's the most important one though, So to me,

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<v Speaker 3>that's kind of where I focus on, is that he's

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<v Speaker 3>the most significant figure on the pitching side that I

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<v Speaker 3>feel that they've had. So yeah, I agree, it seems

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<v Speaker 3>extremely likely that he'll at least get to finish out

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<v Speaker 3>this season there and then we'll see what happens in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty seven. But it's yeah, it's been really cool

0:14:19.680 --> 0:14:22.280
<v Speaker 3>to see the journey that he's been on. To be

0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:26.440
<v Speaker 3>realistic that he hasn't quite recaptured his ace form coming

0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.560
<v Speaker 3>back from surgery. Ever, twenty twenty two was that outlier.

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<v Speaker 3>That was that one year where he was on another

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<v Speaker 3>level and frankly like his other seasons have been significantly

0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.160
<v Speaker 3>different than that. Yet at the same time, he could

0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.480
<v Speaker 3>come to appreciate, uh, what we just touched on here,

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that his ability to eat more endings than

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<v Speaker 3>anybody else, to be a total outlier with his generation

0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:51.320
<v Speaker 3>to still be such a throwback in that regard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to be what people adore him for. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think his popularity is gonna is just off the charts.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're a Marlins fan and you watched Sandy's career,

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<v Speaker 3>like this is a guy that has pretty close to

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent approval rating because of the way he's

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<v Speaker 3>carried himself and the way that he has you can say,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of reinvented himself coming back from Tom John that

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<v Speaker 3>he's added new pitches. He's yeah, he's made it work

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<v Speaker 3>even without being being quite as dominant as he was

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<v Speaker 3>during his peak season.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about this final game, or the first game

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<v Speaker 2>of the series, but the final game we're going to recap,

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<v Speaker 2>and this was a crazy one. Marlins jump out to

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<v Speaker 2>a five to two lead. It looks like everything's going well.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Phillips is pitching very well, and then he gets

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<v Speaker 2>pulled at just seventy six pitches. The bullpen comes in

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<v Speaker 2>in a combination of Cad Gibson and Tyler.

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<v Speaker 1>Zuber blow the lead.

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<v Speaker 2>The Phillies roar back to take a six to five lead,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they added another run in the eighth to

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<v Speaker 2>make it seven to five. The Marlins surely looked like

0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.920
<v Speaker 2>they were going to lose their thirteenth straight in very

0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.880
<v Speaker 2>disappointing fashion, and they said not so fast. They put

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<v Speaker 2>up three runs in the bottom of the ninth. Roberto

0:16:06.760 --> 0:16:09.480
<v Speaker 2>Hernandez ties the game with the bases loaded, a single

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<v Speaker 2>up the middle, and then you have Griffin Conine who

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<v Speaker 2>walks it off, sends the fans home happy, and britt

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<v Speaker 2>and breaks the losing streak and then started a started

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<v Speaker 2>a new one because now they've won three straight. So

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<v Speaker 2>this game had everything. They had, some pitching, they had

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<v Speaker 2>some bad pitching, some offense. It was a very entertaining

0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:32.560
<v Speaker 2>game to watch. And I'm gonna be honest. When the

0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Phillies jumped out to that lead, I had jiu jitsu.

0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.800
<v Speaker 1>Class and I said, I can't do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't watch this Phillies team win again yet another

0:16:42.280 --> 0:16:45.200
<v Speaker 2>blown lead. So I tweeted out, Hey, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>jiu jitsu, hopefully they win. Come out and it looks

0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:50.480
<v Speaker 2>like they want so a little good luck charm there.

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<v Speaker 1>But Sean, how.

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<v Speaker 2>How important was this game? Any takeaways? This was really

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<v Speaker 2>the game which gryffin Conine was the hero. He was

0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.360
<v Speaker 2>awesome in this game. A couple hits, including a home run,

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<v Speaker 2>and then of course the walk off single.

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<v Speaker 4>Well you came clean emitting of the us. We're at

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<v Speaker 4>jiu jitsu. I went to see The Odyssey Monday night because,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, after after losing twelve games in a row,

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<v Speaker 4>I needed I needed a refresher. And just as you know,

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<v Speaker 4>Clayton was quoting it over the weekend, you know, feeling lost.

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<v Speaker 4>I was happy to see that the Marlins had found

0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.520
<v Speaker 4>a way to get home at the end. At the

0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.040
<v Speaker 4>end of the movie when I walked out of the

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<v Speaker 4>theater that it was Gryffin Conan, you know, pulled that off.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, any time he has success with this club,

0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.800
<v Speaker 4>you know, that just rings great, you know, given the

0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.280
<v Speaker 4>franchisees history of his dad and just the end of the

0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.119
<v Speaker 4>year a Griffin Colin is having for himself. Certainly as

0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.600
<v Speaker 4>we were talking about earlier, but to end that street

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<v Speaker 4>that we did not have to worry about writing about

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<v Speaker 4>coming up with puns for the number thirteen and the

0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:53.280
<v Speaker 4>ongoing losing street was just great to end and you

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<v Speaker 4>know and put behind so definitely much needed, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>victory and a great moment you know for Griff's Marlin's career,

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<v Speaker 4>his you know, first time walking it off, and then

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<v Speaker 4>you know, two days later that other big hit against

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<v Speaker 4>the Phillies I can remember back in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 4>three because Jeff having a couple of big games against

0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:18.680
<v Speaker 4>the Phillies down to stretch do do a lot of

0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:22.040
<v Speaker 4>damage to them in that postseason race. And hopefully we're

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<v Speaker 4>starting to see some signs of that same thing. So

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<v Speaker 4>I got three games off against Philadelphia for you know,

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<v Speaker 4>down to stretch, So hopefully Griff's still here damaging him.

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<v Speaker 3>Then yeah, it was real quick about how at the

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<v Speaker 3>end of every series I do these grades for who

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<v Speaker 3>won series MVP based on win probability added. And this

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<v Speaker 3>is the rare time where I didn't even look up

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers. I just did it off the top of

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<v Speaker 3>my head. I'm like, when you have a walk off

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<v Speaker 3>hit to break up a tie game in the first one,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have the go ahead again in a

0:18:51.119 --> 0:18:53.720
<v Speaker 3>tie game today in the eighth inning to flip the

0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.959
<v Speaker 3>game as well in the later innings, I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>have to look up the numbers, so I know it

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<v Speaker 3>was MVP. That's one of the few times this year

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<v Speaker 3>where you've had, whether it's a Marlins player or an

0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:06.440
<v Speaker 3>opponent that's had multiple moments like that in a series

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<v Speaker 3>that it's just been so obvious that they were the

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<v Speaker 3>main character there. So you just feel great for him,

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<v Speaker 3>like the overall numbers are elites, and he's actually doing

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<v Speaker 3>it in important spots, as important as it could possibly get.

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<v Speaker 3>During the course of these three games.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a quick break and when we

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<v Speaker 2>come back, we're going to discuss the future because the Marlins,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, are in contention for a wild card spot.

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<v Speaker 1>What's their plans look like that? Are they going to buy?

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<v Speaker 2>Back here, Fishing on First Live just recapped the sweep

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<v Speaker 2>that the Marlins needed against the Phillies, and now we

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<v Speaker 2>got to take a look at the wild card standings

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<v Speaker 2>and where the Marlins fit in regarding the postseason, because

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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline is just a few days away.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe August fourth is the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>August August third, so even sooner that the Marlins have

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<v Speaker 1>What are they gonna do? Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>If we take a look, the Marlins are a game

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<v Speaker 2>over five hundred, They're kind of in a cluster with

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<v Speaker 2>teams like the Padres. The Pirates are also the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same record the Washington Nationals two games over five hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>They're a game and a half out and then occupying

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<v Speaker 2>that third and final wildcard spot. It's a tie between

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<v Speaker 2>the Phillies, who the Marlins just swept, and the Arizona

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<v Speaker 2>Diamondbacks who've been playing some good baseball the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. Now, when we talk about this team Eli

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, two three weeks ago, on

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<v Speaker 2>the stream, we were saying, who are they gonna buy?

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<v Speaker 2>Could they go after a rental? Could they go after

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<v Speaker 2>a Robbie Ray or a Matt Chapman from San Francisco?

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<v Speaker 2>And then Craig Mish comes out and says, no, the

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<v Speaker 2>Marlins aren't looking to be all in buyers at the deadline,

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<v Speaker 2>given the twelve game losing streak that they were in

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<v Speaker 2>the midst of, but now with three straight wins, sweeping

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<v Speaker 2>the Phillies and still very much in contention when you

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<v Speaker 2>look at these other teams who also are just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of mediocre at this point in the year, I do

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a possibility that the Marlins could add in

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<v Speaker 2>some capacity. Certainly, I don't think they should be trading

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<v Speaker 2>away core pieces of this roster. And I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get your thoughts on where the Marlins sit right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I just it's part of this attention economy that we're

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<v Speaker 3>in where I think, deep down the Marlins don't know

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what they're going to be doing. But they need

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<v Speaker 3>to put some sort of messaging out there when it's

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<v Speaker 3>it feels like the deadly is just a week away,

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<v Speaker 3>which is when the miss report came out on Monday

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<v Speaker 3>about how the Marlins had pivoted from a team that

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<v Speaker 3>seems a very clear buyer to one that is now

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<v Speaker 3>at a point where, just to quote him, any trades

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<v Speaker 3>that they potentially will make I believe will be for

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<v Speaker 3>the future, meaning that as a couple of names you covered,

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<v Speaker 3>those are rentals, and that's a pending free agent that's

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<v Speaker 3>not for the future, that's for now, and they're not

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:08.119
<v Speaker 3>gonna be in the Trek Schooble sweepstakes or the biggest

0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.560
<v Speaker 3>pending free agent out there, or even somebody like a

0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:14.359
<v Speaker 3>Robbie Ray, same sort of thing, where they're just I

0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 3>think in generally speaking though, that that is sort of

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.680
<v Speaker 3>the mindset this Marlins front office has that even in years,

0:23:20.720 --> 0:23:22.520
<v Speaker 3>if they were right now, if they had one hundred

0:23:22.560 --> 0:23:25.640
<v Speaker 3>wins right now, that they like to balance. They don't

0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.040
<v Speaker 3>like to give up assets for something in such a

0:23:28.080 --> 0:23:30.800
<v Speaker 3>small sample, just because they realize that there's a lot

0:23:30.840 --> 0:23:35.120
<v Speaker 3>of volatility there. Some of the best perfect example Curtis Mead,

0:23:35.240 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 3>he was one of the significant trades we've seen alrighty

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.880
<v Speaker 3>before the deadline is Curtis Mead going from the Nationals

0:23:39.880 --> 0:23:42.199
<v Speaker 3>to the Red Sox. In his very first game with

0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:44.359
<v Speaker 3>the Red Sox, he breaks his wrist and he's gonna

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.479
<v Speaker 3>miss probably most of the rest of this regular season.

0:23:47.800 --> 0:23:49.639
<v Speaker 3>Now he has years of control beyond that. But just

0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:52.520
<v Speaker 3>as an example that could happen to any player, really, anybody,

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.760
<v Speaker 3>even some of the there's no no matter how much

0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:57.639
<v Speaker 3>star power you have or how durable you are, there

0:23:57.680 --> 0:24:00.880
<v Speaker 3>are those freak accidents that happened, which is why it's

0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 3>just it's so hard to anticipate what a player is

0:24:03.000 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 3>going to do, especially because this deadline is a little

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 3>bit closer to the end of the year than usual,

0:24:07.320 --> 0:24:10.040
<v Speaker 3>to be several days into August, the Marlins are going

0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:12.639
<v Speaker 3>to have only fifty games left in their entire season

0:24:12.760 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 3>after the deadline. That's an even smaller slice than usual.

0:24:16.240 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna be almost seventy percent of the way through

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:20.719
<v Speaker 3>the season by the time that this deadline happens, and

0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.840
<v Speaker 3>you just see how unpredictable things can be in that

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:28.040
<v Speaker 3>small sample. So even though they want to put some

0:24:28.080 --> 0:24:30.359
<v Speaker 3>messaging out there about how kind of the fact that

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 3>they were leaning towards being a team for the future

0:24:32.800 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 3>kind of opening the door. Just this follow up from

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.560
<v Speaker 3>the Athletic today about how they're listening to offers on

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.360
<v Speaker 3>some of their best players, including Otto Lopez, Liam Hicks,

0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:47.240
<v Speaker 3>er Berto, even Xavier Edwards. Like, I think they're just

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:49.760
<v Speaker 3>open minded, and that's kW they've kind of always been.

0:24:49.840 --> 0:24:52.400
<v Speaker 3>It's very frustrating because people want more of a focus

0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 3>on I want to have a clearer idea about what

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:56.520
<v Speaker 3>they're going to do. But this is a team that's

0:24:56.560 --> 0:24:59.520
<v Speaker 3>just going to be very flexible. They're looking to maximize

0:24:59.560 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 3>value wherever possible, and that can mean some very unorthodox

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 3>decisions could be made in order to get there. But

0:25:08.000 --> 0:25:10.680
<v Speaker 3>I think, well, again, it's going to depend a little

0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 3>bit on how these next four games go. As close

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 3>as we are to the deadline, it's still going to

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:16.800
<v Speaker 3>depend a little bit on whether we get to the

0:25:16.880 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 3>end of the weekend. Are they five games back to

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 3>the wildcard or are they actually holding a wild card

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.679
<v Speaker 3>spot again, because both of those are still within the

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:26.919
<v Speaker 3>range of realistic possibilities over such a small sample when

0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 3>they're going after this team. But I think at the

0:25:30.320 --> 0:25:32.760
<v Speaker 3>end of the day, there's a strong possibility. This deadline

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:34.840
<v Speaker 3>looks a lot like last year's deadline, where there's all

0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 3>these possibilities out there, and ultimately, when you just have

0:25:37.920 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 3>such a team so many guys that are under long

0:25:40.160 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 3>term control, those usually a lot of the moves you

0:25:44.680 --> 0:25:46.400
<v Speaker 3>make at the deadline are the ones that are focused

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:49.159
<v Speaker 3>on now either a team that's selling a rental player

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:51.440
<v Speaker 3>pending free agent, or one that's buying one of those.

0:25:51.480 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 3>The vast majority of the deals happen like that, even

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 3>though the Marlins are going to be open to some

0:25:56.359 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 3>bolder possibilities, I think my way too early prediction is

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 3>that it's gonna be a quiet deadline, a lot like

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 3>last year, where they talked about some big things but

0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 3>only uh do a couple of marginal moves involving role

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.920
<v Speaker 3>players either being acquired or going out the other way.

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Sean your thoughts on the deadline.

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 2>I know we're approaching it pretty quickly, but what's the

0:26:21.119 --> 0:26:22.879
<v Speaker 2>sense you get with this team right now?

0:26:25.080 --> 0:26:28.480
<v Speaker 4>It's gonna be interesting because you know, certainly, I think

0:26:28.520 --> 0:26:31.080
<v Speaker 4>every player that we've pretty much heard of a rumor

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:32.960
<v Speaker 4>the last couple of weeks basically just had a good

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 4>series against the phill Is in the spotlight, so yeah,

0:26:37.800 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 4>you know, you know, but even Fairbanks, you know, that's

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 4>been dangled. If they would move on from him like that,

0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.680
<v Speaker 4>just back to back saves, that would be you know,

0:26:45.840 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 4>that wouldn't I guess shocked.

0:26:47.320 --> 0:26:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Me if the Marlins went on to.

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Get you pair a poor series against the Mets against

0:26:53.960 --> 0:26:59.120
<v Speaker 4>one more contending teams closer struggling, you know, and down

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 4>the stretch. Yeah, that but I'm kind to think that again,

0:27:02.840 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 4>the way this team just played over the last three games,

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:07.720
<v Speaker 4>if they get a little luck in the standings and

0:27:07.920 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 4>even just split against the Mets this weekend, and if

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 4>they're still in the race. I always go back to

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.200
<v Speaker 4>the kind of off the field, you know, the perception

0:27:17.280 --> 0:27:20.359
<v Speaker 4>of that it keeps. It's always been kind of a

0:27:20.440 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 4>Charlie Brown loosing into football thinking with me thinking this,

0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 4>but that at some point the team's going to have to,

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, make a couple moves that consider, you know,

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:33.160
<v Speaker 4>the fan base's view of things. And if you if

0:27:33.160 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 4>this team is a winning record and you sell off

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:37.600
<v Speaker 4>parts when you're within two games of a playoff spot,

0:27:37.720 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 4>like that's bad. That's not going to play well at all.

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:45.440
<v Speaker 4>Even if even if they announced the August fourth that

0:27:45.560 --> 0:27:48.120
<v Speaker 4>we're getting that salary cap and floor next season done,

0:27:48.119 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 4>deal like still, that's going to be a big blow

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 4>to the fan base. So I would I think that

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of standing path thing is you know

0:27:58.200 --> 0:27:59.959
<v Speaker 4>likely possibly. I'm a kind to agree if you lie

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 4>on that that it wasn't that twelve game losing streak

0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:06.440
<v Speaker 4>was did too much damage to really making a run.

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:11.760
<v Speaker 4>But if you again just hold serve this weekend, if

0:28:11.800 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 4>they don't go own four, it's going to be hard

0:28:13.920 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 4>for them to sell off multiple parts. And I would

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:19.720
<v Speaker 4>hope that they would not with their maybe move one

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 4>player you know that's you know, been rumored to be,

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 4>but you know, two, three, that's just that's just too much.

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 4>This is an exciting group. Money is not an issue

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.359
<v Speaker 4>this time like past years. If you accept Sandy's staying,

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 4>that makes this different from other trade deadlines. It's it's

0:28:35.680 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 4>Sandy and Pete Fairbanks. So that a bunch of guys

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 4>on very reasonable contracts for a team that has the

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:45.200
<v Speaker 4>lowest payroll in Major League Baseball. That's I'd say, there's

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 4>not that money motivation. Any move they make needs to

0:28:48.720 --> 0:28:53.960
<v Speaker 4>help set the team up for success. Soon, not way

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 4>down the line.

0:28:55.960 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:58.800
<v Speaker 2>My thing is when you look at this, like the

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 2>standings in particular, no one's really separated themselves. So there

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:05.440
<v Speaker 2>is an element of yeah, why not us if you're

0:29:05.440 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the Marlins, But there's also you have to kind of

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>take the immediate just to step back from what's happening

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>now and look to twenty twenty seven and down the road.

0:29:17.600 --> 0:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>And I like a couple of these comments I'm seeing

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 2>here in the chat where it's not about rentals, it's

0:29:23.920 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 2>about controllable players. Now, if the Marlins were ten twelve

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>games over five hundred, thirteen games over five hundred, and

0:29:31.280 --> 0:29:34.320
<v Speaker 2>they're playing great baseball like we saw them play in June, yeah,

0:29:34.360 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I think you can afford.

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 1>To get a rental or two. But typically.

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>When you're a team like the Marlins and you have

0:29:43.280 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>prospect capital and you weren't expected to compete this year

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:51.720
<v Speaker 2>for a playoff spot, then I think you may have

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:55.959
<v Speaker 2>to take a look at either standing pat making a

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.280
<v Speaker 2>couple trades that involve players for the future. And I

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 2>don't necessarily mean prospects, but I mean you know someone

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 2>that's here next year or not going to be here

0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 2>next year, like a Liam Hicks.

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>I think he could be expendable.

0:30:10.440 --> 0:30:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't really see where his role on this team lies,

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.080
<v Speaker 2>especially with Kyle Sowers playing a lot of first base.

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.160
<v Speaker 2>Liam Hicks is not the prototypical DH. He's not gonna,

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:26.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, hit fifty home runs, and he defensively you're

0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 2>set with Joe Max. So I think Hicks is expendable

0:30:29.360 --> 0:30:33.000
<v Speaker 2>someone they could sell high on, also as Arobert to Hernandez,

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>who's having a really, really good year. Now on the

0:30:35.760 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 2>flip side of that, if you want to buy, you

0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.280
<v Speaker 2>should be getting players who have multiple years left on

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 2>their on their contracts who can fit with the current core.

0:30:45.440 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 2>With this, with this rise of the prospects that will

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>be debuting hopefully soon, you know a guy like cam

0:30:52.280 --> 0:30:54.880
<v Speaker 2>Canarella who's tearing it up in the minor leagues, he's

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>not far away from major league baseball.

0:30:57.480 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 1>He's going to be a part of this Marlin's future.

0:30:59.640 --> 0:31:03.320
<v Speaker 2>So supplementing that core, and I've preached this before, is

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 2>important for any small market team that isn't necessarily going

0:31:06.880 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 2>to go out and spend tens of millions of dollars

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>in free agency. Now, there are some reports that I

0:31:13.760 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>see and I have to mention this because it just

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 2>it drives me crazy. Auto Lopez is on the trade

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>block from not that the Marlins put him on the

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.719
<v Speaker 2>trade block, but other fan bases are making rumors, Oh,

0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Auto Lopez could be traded. The Athletic coming out with

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.840
<v Speaker 2>this article saying the Marlins are listening to offers, and

0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>sure you could listen to anybody, but the price tag

0:31:37.720 --> 0:31:39.360
<v Speaker 2>for Auto Lopez.

0:31:39.160 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Should be astronomical.

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:44.360
<v Speaker 2>And what I mean by that is no team should

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.800
<v Speaker 2>be willing to pay for Auto Lopez. It would take

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:51.000
<v Speaker 2>an insane hall for Auto Lopez to be moved, and

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I just don't see the Marlins doing it. I think

0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 2>they have their franchise shortstop and you can say, well,

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, he's having an outlier of a season. There's

0:31:58.760 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>nothing outlier about Auto Lopez in twenty twenty six. He's

0:32:02.760 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>having an awesome season. He's hit everywhere he's been. This

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 2>guy is part of the Marlins core. In my opinion,

0:32:10.160 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you should even consider moving him. Obviously,

0:32:13.640 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 2>someone like Joe mack Owen Casey they should be off

0:32:16.760 --> 0:32:17.280
<v Speaker 2>the table.

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And then when you take a step back and you look.

0:32:19.440 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>At who else they could theoretically sell kind of comes

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 2>down the bullpen pieces. I guess Eli maybe a Fairbanks

0:32:25.720 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 2>if you want to get rid of that contract Brax

0:32:28.600 --> 0:32:31.400
<v Speaker 2>and Garrett. I think it is going to be moved,

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 2>but the Marlins obviously don't have any plans for him

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:37.600
<v Speaker 2>in the near future. But besides that, there really isn't

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:39.280
<v Speaker 2>a lot of pieces the Marlins.

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Have, Yeah, just to get to Braxton Garrett quickly. That

0:32:42.680 --> 0:32:45.520
<v Speaker 3>feels like Nick Fortes trade from last year where they'd

0:32:45.760 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 3>an extra catcher and they had nothing to do with Fortes,

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 3>but so they moved him to the Rays and with

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:54.640
<v Speaker 3>Braxton like they've been even like his role has even

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.000
<v Speaker 3>been more diminished. He essentially hasn't had a role whatsoever

0:32:57.040 --> 0:32:59.360
<v Speaker 3>on this team, as needy as they've been for starting pitching.

0:33:00.000 --> 0:33:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Talked about this on the show like it's been the

0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 3>head scratcher to me, the fact that he hasn't gotten

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.640
<v Speaker 3>an opportunity at all the last few months, despite pitching

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 3>as well as he could be a triple A. I

0:33:08.400 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 3>think that just speaksvolumes about how little faith they have

0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 3>in him, because they could really use more starting pitching.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 3>But if they've made their decision on him, that's fine.

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>He might be more appreciated by another organization, They're just

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 3>not going to get really anything in return for him

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:24.160
<v Speaker 3>if he hasn't proven himself at the big league level

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 3>in several years. Then there's only so much value can

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:30.400
<v Speaker 3>you can generate by just beating up on minor leaguers

0:33:30.600 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 3>when you have that so much of an experience advantage

0:33:33.080 --> 0:33:35.959
<v Speaker 3>against them. And what makes it interesting is that on

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 3>the acquiring ends, even if it is, as we expect,

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:41.320
<v Speaker 3>going to be a more controllable piece, a less proven

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 3>piece rather than an established veteran of some kinds, they

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:48.280
<v Speaker 3>do need starting pitching. Like they're starting pitching picture for

0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 3>both the rest of this year and then into twenty

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 3>twenty seven, it's a little bit blurry. There's going to

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 3>be a small gap between when the next wave of

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.880
<v Speaker 3>prospects are ready to establish themselves, when I think Thomas

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 3>White and Carson mill Brands break in, and when Robbie

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Snelling gets fully healthy coming off surgery. Like, if they're

0:34:02.960 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 3>planning ahead for next season's rotation as well, it makes

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:08.760
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot of sense to perhaps check that box

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.080
<v Speaker 3>right now. If Garrett is not a guy that they

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.879
<v Speaker 3>feel as part of that solution, this is a place

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:15.759
<v Speaker 3>where I think they should be making a move of

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 3>some kind. But we've been saying that for so long.

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.320
<v Speaker 3>We've been saying it even when they were winning games

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.640
<v Speaker 3>in June. I was saying it during the losing streak

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 3>a few weeks ago, where it felt like it was

0:34:25.200 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 3>they just missed a window to add depth that they

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 3>really needed. And so it would really surprise me if

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.920
<v Speaker 3>they didn't do anything to add some sort of young

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:36.239
<v Speaker 3>pitcher to starting pitcher to this mix over the next

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 3>few days, whether that's about the rest of the season

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:41.439
<v Speaker 3>or beyond, they just have such a big question mark

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 3>there outside of the top of you starting rotation depth

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 3>is still an area of pretty glaring need for this team.

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>And that's something that the Marlins really didn't expect, you know,

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 2>coming into this year. Yes, they traded Ryan Weathers, they

0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:59.200
<v Speaker 2>traded Edward Cabrera, but looking ahead to twenty twenty seven,

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I felt like the rotation was in a really good spot

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 2>because it was assumed that Robbie Snelling would be in

0:35:05.320 --> 0:35:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the majors, Thomas White would be healthy, Thomas White hasn't

0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 2>pitched since mid May, and really no timetable that I've

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>seen regarding White and coming back to full strength, and Snelling,

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:23.759
<v Speaker 2>of course, underwent a UCL procedure, so those things take

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:24.640
<v Speaker 2>time to recover.

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>So I agree with Eli.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:30.080
<v Speaker 2>I think going after a starting pitcher who's controllable not

0:35:30.120 --> 0:35:32.400
<v Speaker 2>necessarily to push you into the playoffs this year, but

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that again can supplement the core, and if he helps

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 2>you get to the playoffs, that's awesome. But solidifying your

0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:41.000
<v Speaker 2>roster for twenty twenty seven is huge.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:42.120
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna take a break.

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:45.080
<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're gonna talk about the all

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.800
<v Speaker 2>important series before this trade deadline. It's gonna be against

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the New York Mets in Queen's City Field Steward Die

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:53.840
<v Speaker 2>for the Fish. Are they gonna be buyers? Are they

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna be sellers? A little bit of both doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta take care of business. It starts tomorrow on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>The Marlins head up to New York for the last

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:59.799
<v Speaker 2>series before the trade deadline. The Mets have been an

0:36:59.840 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 2>absolute disaster this year, but they'd love nothing more than

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 2>to to take care of business against their divisional rival.

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I'll start with Sean. This Mets team, it's it's been bad.

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 2>They still they have a lot of big names, but

0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.840
<v Speaker 2>guys like Freddie Peralta that he's really struggled, Juan Soto's

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>dealt with injuries.

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:21.840
<v Speaker 1>All in all, just a very inconsistent team. And inconsistent culture.

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.480
<v Speaker 1>It feels like up there. But what should Marlins fans

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>be on the lookout for against against the Mets.

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:31.960
<v Speaker 4>Well, you kind of called it with there would definitely

0:37:32.000 --> 0:37:36.240
<v Speaker 4>be some karma on the Mets part after last season,

0:37:36.600 --> 0:37:39.239
<v Speaker 4>and this would kind of you have finish things off

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.040
<v Speaker 4>if they were if the Mets were to take three

0:37:43.080 --> 0:37:45.920
<v Speaker 4>out of four here or street the series, you know

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 4>probably would definitely were firmly back in the selling camp.

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:52.800
<v Speaker 4>But I would just be able to look out for

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 4>a playoff, you know, atmosphere every day, I.

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 1>From the Marlin's perspective.

0:37:55.719 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 4>You heard Clayton say it in the post game, and

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, tomorrow here's the biggest game of the season.

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:04.000
<v Speaker 4>You're perez on the maund that's you know, just every

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 4>game Marlins could win, starting you know, from tomorrow evening

0:38:07.719 --> 0:38:09.680
<v Speaker 4>really just kind of puts it more likely that this

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:12.040
<v Speaker 4>group could keep themselves together. They can see what they

0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.439
<v Speaker 4>have down the stretch, even if that is standing pat

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 4>and that's man, I'm just looking to see how they

0:38:18.640 --> 0:38:22.520
<v Speaker 4>respond to that challenge, you know, game in and game out,

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, in the clubhouse, it's sort of the Mets themselves,

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:29.200
<v Speaker 4>you call it it struggling group. That's pretty good pitchers still. Overall,

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.160
<v Speaker 4>I mean, Peralta has not had the year of the Mets.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Hope for when they paid them, certainly, but Marlins will

0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 4>be facing Nolan McClain as well. That's been everything else

0:38:39.200 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 4>with the Mets outside from per Alta. That's been their

0:38:41.920 --> 0:38:44.239
<v Speaker 4>biggest issue. So I mean, it's you know, it's not

0:38:44.320 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 4>going to be easy, but I'm hope, really hoping they

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:48.960
<v Speaker 4>can get it done.

0:38:50.520 --> 0:38:53.560
<v Speaker 3>The last time that the Marlins were in Queens, I

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.719
<v Speaker 3>was there and they got swept by the Mets at

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.320
<v Speaker 3>the end of May. That was felt like rock bottom

0:38:58.320 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 3>of the season right there where it felt like con that. Man,

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 3>there's not much difference between these two teams. That's when

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 3>they were I think close to ten games below five

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:10.360
<v Speaker 3>hundred at that point, and I remember how sloppy that was.

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 3>So this is the first time there. Since then, a

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.200
<v Speaker 3>lot has changed, and even with this recent losing streak,

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.799
<v Speaker 3>I think the Mets are kind of in the same

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 3>spot with one pretty notable absence. They're going to be

0:39:20.520 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 3>without Juan Soda for at least these next few days.

0:39:22.719 --> 0:39:25.120
<v Speaker 3>He's on the IL. He's been amazing. He's been one

0:39:25.160 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 3>of the few things as one of the few players

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 3>offensively for them that has performed as advertised in twenty

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:34.520
<v Speaker 3>twenty six. So without him, it would seem on paper

0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:37.239
<v Speaker 3>like a pretty beatable team because this is a four

0:39:37.280 --> 0:39:40.080
<v Speaker 3>game series and basically everybody on the starting pitching side,

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:42.759
<v Speaker 3>as a shawn a lude to McLain, he's been very

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:45.839
<v Speaker 3>good and they're gonna see four out of the five

0:39:45.880 --> 0:39:48.520
<v Speaker 3>pieces of this Mets rotation, a rotation that just hasn't

0:39:48.560 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 3>been a lot of things have gone not according to

0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 3>plan for this team, so McLain is kind of the

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:56.000
<v Speaker 3>He is such a high ceiling when it comes to

0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:00.919
<v Speaker 3>individual games. But aside from that, this is a team

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:03.520
<v Speaker 3>that by any measures just really bad. A team that's

0:40:03.520 --> 0:40:05.320
<v Speaker 3>going to be selling as well, a team that is

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:07.600
<v Speaker 3>clearly going to be selling, I should say, one that

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 3>you would hope from the Marlins' perspective is subtracting from

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:14.399
<v Speaker 3>its roster over the course of the series that they

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 3>are in the making deals before the deadline day and

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 3>handicapping their own chances of actually winning the games in

0:40:21.040 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>the process in order to focus on the future. So

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of the main thing is to be on

0:40:26.000 --> 0:40:28.479
<v Speaker 3>as they say, hug Watch and just hoping to see

0:40:28.719 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 3>the Mets having in their dugout kind of clearing things

0:40:33.480 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 3>out over the course of these games, taking players out

0:40:37.440 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 3>to preserve their health, and that's just a small thing

0:40:41.000 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 3>that could make a difference. Usually it doesn't, but maybe

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 3>just having some of these veteran players being covered in

0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 3>bubble wrap so that they can actually be traded to contenders,

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.160
<v Speaker 3>that the Marlins can take advantage of that and be

0:40:53.360 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 3>up on the team that they'd ordinarily be favored against anyway,

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 3>but perhaps just a little bit more than usual given

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.279
<v Speaker 3>the Sodo injury, and then given the fact that the

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 3>Mets are going to be very actively trying to move

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:05.080
<v Speaker 3>off of some of their veteran.

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 2>Pieces, it is worth noting when you look at the

0:41:08.760 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 2>potential starters for this series. The Marlins are going to

0:41:12.680 --> 0:41:16.640
<v Speaker 2>be throwing Yuri to start against Nolan McLean. That's going

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>to be a really good pitching matchup for any pitching

0:41:19.000 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 2>enthusiasts out there, and Sandy is projected to start again

0:41:22.719 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday according to fangrafts. Of course, those things change,

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:32.120
<v Speaker 2>but a Sandy star on Sunday against potentially the return

0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:35.080
<v Speaker 2>of Clay Holmes and Clay Holmes again hasn't pitched in

0:41:35.120 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>a couple of months, a lot of speculation he could

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:41.680
<v Speaker 2>be traded, so it might be a showcase opportunity. And

0:41:42.040 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 2>what really is like you guys have said a lost

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.640
<v Speaker 2>season for the Mets. They're going to try to maximize

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:49.880
<v Speaker 2>any value they can and sell what they can at

0:41:49.920 --> 0:41:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the deadline and for the Marlins sake, you know, you

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:54.600
<v Speaker 2>never want a player to get injured, but Juan Soto

0:41:54.640 --> 0:41:57.839
<v Speaker 2>has been a Phish killer his entire career, dating back

0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:00.600
<v Speaker 2>to his early days with the National. You will not

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 2>see him this series again on the injured list. So

0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:07.759
<v Speaker 2>I do think this is a winnable series for the

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Fish and ultimately they gotta take care of business. This

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:14.560
<v Speaker 2>is going to be really up to this point, it

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 2>feels cliche saying this, but the biggest series this year.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:22.160
<v Speaker 2>It comes in New York City field a team that

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:25.880
<v Speaker 2>in the Marlins, that struggles sometimes on the road, So

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>they got to battle those road loows and take care

0:42:29.440 --> 0:42:29.880
<v Speaker 2>of business.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, this is prediction time. That's my prediction.

0:43:04.560 --> 0:43:05.320
<v Speaker 3>But who knows.

0:43:07.160 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Now it's prediction, So there we go.

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:13.239
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go ahead and start with Sean. Lead us

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 2>off with your prediction for this four game set.

0:43:16.040 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Sean, let's just get the music popping, and there we go.

0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.720
<v Speaker 4>All right, I think the Marlins will split this series

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:29.880
<v Speaker 4>against the Metropolitans, and San die Al Contra will be

0:43:29.920 --> 0:43:30.720
<v Speaker 4>the series MVP.

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:32.880
<v Speaker 1>Eli.

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 3>I will say, yeah, almost always these series end up

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 3>being a split when you go four games, and I'll

0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>be conservative when it comes to that. So yeah, two

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:47.839
<v Speaker 3>wins a piece for the Marlins and the Mets over

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 3>the course of these four days. When you gotta predict

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.840
<v Speaker 3>the series MVP, it depends who's actually on these teams

0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 3>by the end of the series. I mentioned that this

0:43:56.080 --> 0:43:58.040
<v Speaker 3>is gonna be a factor on both sides, particularly when

0:43:58.080 --> 0:44:00.800
<v Speaker 3>it comes to the Mets. I don't deal with the

0:44:00.880 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Marlins MVP and say that I've been fooled before. But

0:44:05.040 --> 0:44:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I think Jacob Marci is slowly trending in the right direction.

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:09.840
<v Speaker 3>Even if the power isn't there, the swing decisions have

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:11.960
<v Speaker 3>really improved, so I think he's gonna be on base

0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.239
<v Speaker 3>a whole lot over these next four games. He's gonna

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 3>face a lot of right handed pitching, and Jacob Marci

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:19.280
<v Speaker 3>is gonna have a great series for Miami.

0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:24.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go bold. I'm gonna go bold.

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I think this. Marlin's tea needs it, the fan and

0:44:27.480 --> 0:44:30.440
<v Speaker 2>me needs it. Marlin sweep the Mets. They go into

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.399
<v Speaker 2>New York, sweep the Mets, and the red hot air.

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:35.640
<v Speaker 1>Berto Hernandez is the series MVP.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Hits a couple of home runs. All right, that's gonna

0:44:44.600 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 2>do it for today's stream. Of course, we're gonna be

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 2>back after the Mets series on Sunday. A reminder that

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:54.799
<v Speaker 2>there is a game tomorrow. Last couple of weeks been

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 2>off days on Thursdays for the Fish, but the last

0:44:58.000 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Thursday game they played they beat the Mayor, so hopefully

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>this is a good sign. Until then, guys, thank you

0:45:04.280 --> 0:45:08.360
<v Speaker 2>for tuning in. Of course, for Sean Millrick, for Eli Sussman,

0:45:08.400 --> 0:45:10.759
<v Speaker 2>I've been Jeremiah Geiger until next time.

0:45:10.840 --> 0:45:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Stay safe and let's go fish.