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Speaker 1: Movie? PAC twelve North? Where are we at? So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So do you want to start with last year's champion,

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Speaker 2: Well you propick at the top. You brought up wazoo.

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Speaker 2: The big concern for Wazoo is what talent on defense.

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Speaker 2: They lost a lot on the defensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 2: and how are they going to account for that? But otherwise,

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Speaker 2: talk to me about Wazoo. How do you feel about

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Speaker 1: So I'm kind of high on Wazoo. The sort of

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Speaker 1: as turner at safety he is back that they were

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Speaker 1: able to silence some i mean not great quarterbacks to

432
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,399
Speaker 1: be honest, if you look at the teams that they played,

433
00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 1: but they did their job. So the hope is that

434
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: maybe there's some promising beef upfront, because they still recruited

435
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,679
Speaker 1: pretty well on defense the past couple of years, three

436
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: four years, that cornerbacks will emerge, that they'll be better

437
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: getting after the passer and a new system on defense.

438
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 1: Now they lose their best linebacker he transferred to Cal,

439
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: so there are still some concerns, but it's just it's

440
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,199
Speaker 1: just hopeful. It's just hoping on upside because there's not

441
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 1: a lot of proven players maybe beyond ZTF right now.

442
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: Because of the star power we've seen so recently in

443
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: the secondary the last five or six years. They should

444
00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: be pretty good at safety, but corner is a significant

445
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: question right now. And whether or not you're, you know,

446
00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 1: terribly concerned when you look at pack twelve quarterbacks that

447
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: Washington's corners are going to take a step down, that's

448
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 1: between you and your football brain. But I think Washington

449
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: will be fine. I just think think it's gonna take

450
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 1: a minute when you look at what they've lost on

451
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: defense and what we don't know about the guys on offense,

452
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: essentially because of a poor system these past couple of years.

453
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 2: And it helps that out of the South they draw

454
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Speaker 2: Ucla Arizona State in Arizona.

455
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Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, I think Ucla is gonna be pretty decent,

456
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: though I have questions about UCLA's defense. I didn't you know,

457
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: deep dive Ucla at all though, so you can speak

458
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:28,080
Speaker 1: more to that when we get there. But yeah, I

459
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,000
Speaker 1: mean they have Michigan State week three. I believe that

460
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: games in Seattle both the UCLA game on the road,

461
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: and they have Oregon State at home. Those are both

462
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: Friday night games at Oregon and at Wazoo. But in

463
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Speaker 1: my notes, and I don't know if you have the

464
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Speaker 1: schedule in front of you, I wrote down it's a

465
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Speaker 1: pretty buffered schedule.

466
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh, yeah. Now, you could do a lot

467
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Speaker 2: worse than this. I mean, not only because they've got

468
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 2: those three teams. If you're gonna draw three teams out

469
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 2: of the South, you're doing okay. By the way, Colorado

470
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 2: on here too, I should mention Colorado. That's what I

471
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Speaker 2: think of Colorado that I forgot to include their pit Right,

472
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 2: those are the teams that you'd want to pull.

473
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Speaker 1: Right.

474
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Speaker 2: You don't want Uta, you don't want usc, you want

475
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: those four teams instead. And you know otherwise, though you're right,

476
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 2: there's not a string of games here that really frightens you.

477
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 1: No, no, no, And you look at what Klein de

478
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 1: Borr and his staff were able to do offensively. And

479
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: we'll get to Fresno at a different point. But you

480
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: have to be filled with at least some degree of

481
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: optimism that even if these guys aren't all packed twelve performers,

482
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 1: that they'll be developed to maximize what they are and

483
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: not to what they're not. Essentially, so I'm I'm encouraged

484
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: by Washington. In the medium and long term, I think

485
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,879
Speaker 1: they're gonna be some growing pains, but by the end

486
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: of the year, I think there will be a good

487
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: amount of identity scene, especially if the offensive line opens

488
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 1: up some more holes for running backs because Fresno is

489
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: able to run the ball. We have but old Man

490
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: rivers there forever Ron Rivers, Ronnie Rivers. So I yeah,

491
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: if either of these, you know, they brought in a

492
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: couple running back transfer, I think they can be fine.

493
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: Like you could do a lot worse than a team

494
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: who just has its act together, even if the talent

495
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: isn't especially crazy.

496
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 2: Over under seven and a half, I'm not touching it

497
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: with a ten foot poll. I'll give that one away

498
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 2: right now, because there are too many unknowns here, even

499
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: though the schedule sets up pretty well. I'm curious to

500
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 2: hear your thoughts on the rest of the PAC twelve North,

501
00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 2: especially some of these other teams that are on Washington schedule,

502
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 2: because I feel like there's a lot of upside where

503
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,840
Speaker 2: folks might not realize it, whether it's Washington State, whether

504
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 2: it's Oregon State. Oregon State should I think should be

505
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: pretty decent this year. Obviously Oregon that game's on the road.

506
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 2: Just too much uncertainty for me to really go all

507
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 2: in on Washington hitting that over. But I am optimistic

508
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 2: about Kaitlyn Debora. I think I said at one point,

509
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 2: it's my favorite higher of the offseason. I think it

510
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense. I think he will get

511
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 2: that offense back to where it needs to be. And

512
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: there's enough talent on this roster that, like you said,

513
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: at worst just having their act together, having their act

514
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 2: together probably makes them at worse six and six, at

515
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 2: worse seven and five.

516
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Speaker 1: Right don't know if they get to eight four. So

517
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: these are the teams whose defenses don't worry me at all.

518
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 1: Right now, Kent State, Portland State that are on Washington schedule.

519
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: Kent State, Portland State, Stanford, Arizona State, Arizona, Oregon State, Colorado.

520
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: That's seven. That's seven. I hold up my fingers to

521
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: my camera. Seven defenses that I don't know if they're

522
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: going to be catastrophically bad. But there's not a lot

523
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: where I say to myself, ooh, they're going to give

524
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: people trouble? Is they you're Randy Savage voice, It's it's

525
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: borderline Randy Savage. I don't know how it sounds when

526
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm infected with the novel coronavirus, but that's as close

527
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,040
Speaker 1: as I can get. That's not bad.

528
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oregon, Yeah, America's team. We got a half hour

529
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Speaker 2: into this thing before we talked about the Oregon Ducks.

530
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: The least we can do is at least act somewhat impartial.

531
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 2: We're doing a PAC twelve nine preview. I am who

532
00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 2: I am, You are who you are. We are fans

533
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 2: for Yeah, Oregon Ducks new coach Dan Lanning. A lot

534
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 2: of talent. You mentioned the offensive line in a really

535
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: good spot. Most of the too deep back with the

536
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: exception of like one guy who started last year. Bring

537
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: over Bo Nicks. That was a story that we talked

538
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: about a lot here in the offseason. Dan Lanning got

539
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 2: a ton of familiarity with that corner of the country,

540
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: but obviously comes with great acclaim from Georgia's previous stops. Right,

541
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: this is a guy who was coaching, helping coach a

542
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: historic defense and won a national championship. So, if nothing else,

543
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: proximity to great success high heights on the college football

544
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: side is there with this new enthusiastic young college football mind.

545
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: Where are you at? Are you as enthusiastic as Dan Lanning? Yes?

546
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: The program, that's what he calls it, the program spot Yeah,

547
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: program program, and it's great. I'm a fan of Landing.

548
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: I think he's done all of the right things early

549
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 1: on in his tenure in Eugene. Hope it lasts for

550
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: a long time if he's successful, because you know, the

551
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,919
Speaker 1: returns on the recruiting trail seems strong. The vibe in

552
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: the program from what I've heard heard, seems pretty strong.

553
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: So I'm hopeful. Yeah. I mean, look, we can we

554
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: can board the underthink express and say, yeah, but it's

555
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: Bonix right, that's the basic way to underthink the Oregon

556
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,639
Speaker 1: preview that offensive line, receiver, running back, especially with what

557
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: you know they added depth wise in the portal. You know,

558
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: they added a ton of depth on defense up front,

559
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: you know, linebacker should they be healthy. Finally at linebacker

560
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: has to all American caliber, at least all conference caliber linebackers.

561
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: They added depth and talent in the secondary with I

562
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: mentioned Christian Gonzalez, the Colorado transfer who I think has

563
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: higher level NFL draft prospects. So there's a lot to

564
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: really really like. You know, but the turnover between coaches

565
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: and the way things ended last year with getting demolished

566
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: by Utah and then losing the way that they did.

567
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: They were quite thin against Oklahoma, but Oklahoma's without their

568
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: head coach as well, and brought in a current XFL

569
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: I believe is that what Bob stoops is the next

570
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: part of his career. So he's an alternate league's alternate

571
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: professional leagues right now. So you know the transfers that

572
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 1: left the way that the recruiting class, you know, it

573
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: fell apart, but then Landing was able to bring in

574
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: some guys back into the fold. It it left a

575
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: weird taste I think in a lot of fans' mouth

576
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: in Eugene or people who root for Oregon. But again

577
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm using the word upside. I'm using the word star power.

578
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: It's at every position group like this is a deep

579
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: talented team. And so now it's Dan Lanning, Kenny Dillingham,

580
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: first time offensive coordinator, who's fully calling the plays, doing

581
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: their part to say, you see that storefront that everybody

582
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: takes a shot at that seems cursed. Well, we're taking

583
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: a shot with the corner of Bo and Nix. That's

584
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 1: the question. That is the fair question because everything around

585
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: him on offense sort of sets him up to succeed,

586
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: and the the defense is as talented, if not more talented,

587
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: than any in the conference. I don't know if they're

588
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: the best defense, but the depth at every position seems

589
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: to be in a really impressive place. So it's limiting

590
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: Bonnick's mistakes and brain fart plays and getting seventy two

591
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: percent out of good Bonnicks as opposed to fifty one,

592
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: forty four, thirty eight as we've seen in years past.

593
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: The case would be Okay, he's playing against worst defenses

594
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: he has, you know, perhaps a more stable environment. You know,

595
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: Auburn is a lot of really good things, but not

596
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: necessarily stable behind the scenes and the expectations that he had,

597
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: so there's not a lot of holes to poke now.

598
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: I think the defensive scheme will be really interesting because

599
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: you're marrying Landing and Kirby Smart and what they were

600
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: able to do at Georgia. You have Toash Lupoi and

601
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: what he was able to do at cal and Alabama impressively.

602
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 1: And then Matt Polidge, who comes in from Baylor, is

603
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: coaching the secondaries as and a co coordinator, so you

604
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: got like the Aranda seasoning in there. So there's a

605
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: lot of interesting cooks in this kitchen on defense, and

606
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: nobody has a full concept of what they're going to

607
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: do on offense beyond look to Mike Norvell and the

608
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: better of what he and Dillingham were able to do

609
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: at Memphis, which is a lot of like really good

610
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: running and decent quarterback play.

611
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of mystery Schematically, yeah, I mean,

612
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: we don't know exactly what it's going to look like.

613
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: We can take some cues though, from what Kenny Dillingham

614
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 2: has been around and part of at previous stops. And

615
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 2: one of the things if you read his bio, if

616
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: you listen to what people have to say about him,

617
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: he was adaptable. He was adaptable to the personnel. If

618
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 2: it was personnel that would benefit from going more run heavy,

619
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: he could do that. If he had a dual threat quarterback,

620
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: he knew how to work with that at Florida State,

621
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: or even a pocket passer, he's worked with that as well.

622
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: So I don't know if Kenney Dillingham is so much

623
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,479
Speaker 2: defined by one system as he is just the general genre.

624
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: The theme of being adaptable, working with with what he's

625
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: got on hand.

626
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and having the experience, you know, going both ways

627
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: that Kenny Dillingham has with Bone and vice versa. Hopefully

628
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: that's worthwhile that they're able to speak a similar language,

629
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: and like, okay, this we're going to incorporate some of

630
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 1: the things that worked well for you in Gus's system

631
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 1: at Auburn, and we're going to adapt to the players

632
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: that we have here to make it our own. That's

633
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: the upshot, that's you know, that's the hope if you're

634
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 1: an Oregon fan. Now they open against Georgia, so things

635
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: get real very quickly, and you're gonna go Georgia, get

636
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: them week one, though, I suppose so if there's still

637
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: some sort of hangover mode. But I don't know. I

638
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: don't think excellent programs and excellent teams fall victim to

639
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: hangover mode against what I still think is a pretty

640
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: top flight program in Oregon. So yes, get them early

641
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: before they're truly in a rhythm. But I don't know.

642
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: There's so much back in terms of coaching with Georgia

643
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: and so many guys, And we talked about this on

644
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Speaker 1: the SEC preview who actually played a ton on that defense,

645
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 1: even though the guys who got drafted sort of received

646
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: the majority of the attention. But yeah, I suppose. So

647
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: it's in what the Mercedes beens whatever they're calling Mercedes Bensfield,

648
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: and so I don't know, maybe it's weird and cavernous,

649
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: but George is more experienced at this point playing in

650
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: a place like that. So after the Georgia game, it's

651
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: not a bad schedule. That's just a tough way to

652
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: begin the season. So they they open it. It's kind

653
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: of weird though. They have Eastern Washington always dangerous, and

654
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,239
Speaker 1: by U, which returns a good amount, and we'll talk

655
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: about them at another point. But they're at Wazoo, which

656
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: is never easy easy. They get UCLA at home, which

657
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: is nice, and they finished with Washington and Utah in

658
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: Eugene before I don't know what we're calling it the

659
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: Platypus Cup in in Corvallis, which I still think it.

660
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: The Oregon State offense is gonna be pretty good, so

661
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 1: all things considered, I don't know, you get past that

662
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: Georgia game and like there's no expectation that Oregon beat Georgia.

663
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what the line is at the time

664
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Speaker 1: we're recording this, but I assume double digits. Yes I will,

665
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Speaker 1: I will check that out. Check yeah, check as I

666
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Speaker 1: yode alan h yeah, if Bonix once again, if I'm

667
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: gonna say it with with cam Ward. If Bonix is

668
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 1: a BB plus quarterback, they should be in that conversation

669
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: to win double digit games in year one because there

670
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: are too many pieces for them not to be that

671
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: in that in that space. Given if they're able to

672
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: stay healthy on both sides of the ball, which is

673
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: always a big if, yeah, they should be a ten

674
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: and two type program. I'm seeing eighteen points right now. Yeah,

675
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: that's many points and a half point. Look yeah, yeah, okay,

676
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: I mean look, you can tell me anything, and I'm like,

677
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: I could see how Oregon loses this game by eighteen points.

678
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: I've watched Oregon's presume starting quarterback play against Georgia, and

679
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: so I get it. Eight and a half is the over.

680
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: Under feels low to me. I would probably take the over.

681
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to see. Again, we talk about

682
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: the potential catastrophic defenses on Pack twelve teams's schedule, and

683
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 1: I think Oregon's in a good place. Now. Could they

684
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: drop the BYU game? Unlikely? But there are, you know,

685
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 1: versions of this universe in which it happens. Yeah, So no,

686
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: I think they're in a good place. Utah is going

687
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: to be incredibly tough, but they miss what they miss

688
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: USC right in the regular season schedule, which is nice.

689
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be good. I don't think they're

690
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 1: gonna be great, but I think they're gonna be good.

691
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: And yeah, if it's not Bonix, it's likely going to

692
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: be Ty Thompson, the former highly regarded blue chip quarterback

693
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: who is going to be a I think a red

694
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,319
Speaker 1: shirt freshman this year. So we'll say, do you have

695
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: any Oregon thoughts, concerns upshots?

696
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm concerned about Dan Lanning being a

697
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: first time head coach, but I'm not. But that's a

698
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 2: common theme, especially going into twenty twenty two. There are

699
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: so many big schools that have new new coaches that

700
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 2: first time head coaches, that it's fair to make that

701
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 2: type of that type of concern public. No. I mean, look,

702
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about that, but I feel like there's so

703
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: much talent on this roster. I really like the fact

704
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 2: that their offensive lines in such a good spot. It's

705
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: it's not something that enough people talk about, and a

706
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: lot of people still talk about it, but it all

707
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: starts up front. As the wise prophet David Pollock once said,

708
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: Davidius Policus Yeah, Yeah, and I think it's true, especially

709
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: on the Oregon side. They've got good depth up front,

710
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: They've got good talent up front. They only lose one

711
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 2: guy off too deep, and so if that's your starting point,

712
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: you can do a lot worse than that. What the

713
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: offense looks like remains to be seen. I'm not a

714
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: huge bow Knicks fan. You can definitely do worse than

715
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks though, Bo Nick, but you can do a

716
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 2: lot with him. And so we'll see what that ends

717
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 2: up looking like on Labor Day weekend against Georgia. But

718
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: all things considered, especially given the nature of the schedule

719
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: playing a lot of Pac twelve teams, Organs are a

720
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,399
Speaker 2: really good spot. Organ's gonna win the North, Dan, They're

721
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: gonna win the North, and I don't know if they

722
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: I'm assuming they'll end up playing Utah. I'm pretty high

723
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 2: on Utah. We'll talk about that next episode. Yeah, but

724
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: you know, they're in a really good spot. It's a

725
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 2: great ending spot for Dan Lanning.

726
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Speaker 1: There By the way to tickle your seinfeld in George

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Oregon State. I'm i'm I'm fascinated by

761
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: Oregon State. I think Oregon State's offense will again be

762
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: pretty good. They're over under is six and a half.

763
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: It seems like the public is relatively split on whether

764
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,319
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765
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,560
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766
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767
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,400
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768
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Speaker 2: although two of those are Boyse and USC I believe,

769
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 2: which is not an easy team to draw from the South.

770
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: Who's a quarterback battle Chance Snolan and Tristan Gidia. Yeah,

771
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: looking at there, so I don't know. Give me the

772
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Speaker 2: lowdown on the beaves. You interer, you out, Oh, I'm in.

773
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: I'm in as a team that's going to play in

774
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 2: a number of entertaining games because there's not a lot

775
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 2: to like about this Oregon State defense. Okay, so there

776
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: are going to be thirty seven to thirty four games

777
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 2: that will be entertaining. The offensive line is mostly back.

778
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 2: They lost a big time center, and they lose their

779
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: you know, bj Baylor, who was very good at running.

780
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: Back last year. But I'm never terribly concerned about running

781
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: back losses. If the offensive line and they have one

782
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: of the better offensive line coaches in the country, I'm

783
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: never terribly worried there. Chance Nolan was good enough to

784
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: win games that Oregon State generally doesn't win. Right They

785
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: beat Washington, Utah and USC. If I'm looking at this

786
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: last year schedule correctly, that's a really good starting point

787
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: for Chance Nolan's full time starting career at quarterback. He

788
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: was very good against USC, if I remember correctly, and

789
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: so to build on that is a big deal. They've

790
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: got a couple of big running backs, They've they've hit

791
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: the portal pretty hard for receivers in the past few years.

792
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: Didn't hit the portal especially hard this year. It's all

793
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 1: to me. If you're talking, would you say six and

794
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: a half. Yeah, they will to me almost assuredly be

795
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 1: a Bowl team once again. So seven and five seems

796
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: pretty realistic to me when you have Jonathan Smith, who

797
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 1: seems like he was sort of the brains with Chris

798
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: Peterson with that Washington offense when it was really popping,

799
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: with Jake Browning, that they are going to outperform their

800
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: perceived level of talent on offense and use the portals wisely.

801
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: And if they do come against if they do come

802
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: up against one of those Dan Rubinstein catastrophic defenses in

803
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve, well game plan effectively. They will find dudes.

804
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: They will utilize the tight end, they will be very smart,

805
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: and they will just be that sort of tough out.

806
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: It's just finding guys on defense up front who can

807
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 1: tackle at all, because it's all well and good to

808
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: have the shifts and motions and be you know, nails

809
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: in the red zone and be situationally great on third

810
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: down and obvious passing downs, and you know, develop a

811
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 1: guy nobody thought would be a good PAC twelve quarterback

812
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 1: and chance Nolan into what he is. But I don't know.

813
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: You get pushed around and teams can just run on

814
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: you at will. How much does it matter? How much

815
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: does it actually matter? And so you're already on the

816
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: West Coast where it's tougher to find game changing defensive

817
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: linemen and linebackers. It's gonna be a matter of portal,

818
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a matter of development, it's gonna matter

819
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: of that culture keeping guys in core of allis. I

820
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: think they can get to an interesting place on defense,

821
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: but I don't think they're there this year. So okay,

822
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: as for the over under, yeah, I'm gonna say yes.

823
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: With the amount they return on offense and with the

824
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: promise they showed last year, I'm going to say seven

825
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: and five. But yeah, they're right in that six and six.

826
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: Seven and five. Who they lose to Utah State in

827
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 1: the Kimmel Bowl last year. Yep. Yeah, I don't know

828
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: if I see the season going big picture all that

829
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: differently from where it was last year. That's a pretty

830
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: good thing considering the depths of the Gary Anderson experience.

831
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: So this is sort of a half team if I'm oh, totally,

832
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: if I'm hearing you correctly.

833
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think the secondary will be interesting and

834
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: it's so it's a Charlton Heston Wayne's World two question,

835
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: are they so good? And I once knew a girl

836
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: on Rose Avenue, you know that kind of like, I

837
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: don't know. I think they're going to be fine in

838
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,479
Speaker 1: the secondary, but I don't know. If you're not getting

839
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: after quarterbacks and you're not able to shut down lanes

840
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: in the rush, in the running game, there's only so

841
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: much that can be done. So yeah, six and six,

842
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: seven and five. Entertaining watch, entertaining watch.

843
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 2: All right, speaking of entertaining watches, entertaining watches, excuse me

844
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 2: please Stanford and Cal.

845
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: Oh how dare you which? No, no hold on?

846
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: Which of those two will be a more entertaining watch

847
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: this year?

848
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: Oh? Cal? Why Cal? They develop interesting players on defense going,

849
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the entirety of Justin Wilcox's tenure down a

850
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: couple of big dudes, and it was Elijah Hicks and

851
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: Cameron Good the back half of that defense. But you

852
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: go back to Evan Weaver that like, there're just always

853
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 1: guys who develop into interesting pieces on defense, and they

854
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: fool quarterbacks a ton, and defense is a big part

855
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 1: of football and what Stanford's done on both offense and

856
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: defense leaves a lot to be desired, and Cal's offense

857
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: hasn't been great, but at least Cal will keep themselves

858
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: in weird games because of the ability to confuse quarterbacks

859
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: and shut teams down. So they took a step back

860
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: last year a little bit, but I don't know they've

861
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: developed guys so well on that side of the ball

862
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: that Justin Wilcox deserves, especially in the secondary, a good

863
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: amount of benefit of the doubt. So that's there's there's

864
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: more upside to Cal's defense than to the other three

865
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: portions of you know, Stanford's offense and defense and Cal's offense,

866
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: which Cal's offense is just perennially looking to ascend to decent.

867
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 1: You had like the very short stretch of remember it

868
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: was like Chase Garber's is undefeated when he plays a

869
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: full game, right, was that from twenty nineteen maybe whatever

870
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: that was, But yeah, it's so the new guy is

871
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: Jack Plumber. The new hope is Jack Plumber. Peru from Purdue,

872
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 1: good amount of size and when he was good at Purdue,

873
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,359
Speaker 1: he was really good. When he was not good, he

874
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: was really not good bad English. I know, he was

875
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: quite disappointing and got supplanted by Aidan O'Connell. So I

876
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: think the offensive line is just okay. They lost a

877
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: good running back to UNLV who they lose the running

878
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 1: back to, I think Nevada Christopher Brooks. So I just

879
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: to me, it's the same question year over year, and

880
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: they lost a receiver who was a contributor. It's why

881
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: aren't they putting it together to the point where they're

882
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: somewhat dangerous on offense in California, In northern California, where

883
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford was able to year over year attract running backs,

884
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 1: attract receivers, develop quarterbacks into a decent enough place. So

885
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: this is not Kansas. This is not an unheard of

886
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: place for offense. This is a history of higher level

887
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: offensive skill talent at Cal and what Sunny Dykes was

888
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: able to do moving the ball, like, what is the blockage?

889
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: I know Justin Wilcox is learning to is you know,

890
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: always attempting to service his defense and sort of be

891
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: more ball control on offense. But that's the difference of

892
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, a decent season which Cal makes a low

893
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: level bowl game and becoming truly dangerous in a somewhat

894
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: open pac twelve and it just still doesn't appear to

895
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 1: be happening. Yeah.

896
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: I mean Cal went zero to five in one score

897
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: games last year. You would assume that some of that,

898
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: some of that luck will favor them a little bit

899
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: more this season. The over under is five and a half.

900
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: Public relatively split on that. I don't like this schedule, Dan, No,

901
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: it's not a great skun I don't like this schedule

902
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 2: at all. Let me read through it very quickly. Outside

903
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: of UC Davis and UNLV to start the season at

904
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: Notre Dame home against Arizona at Wazoo, by week at Colorado, okay,

905
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 2: but then Washington and Oregon back to back weeks at home,

906
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: on the road at USC, on the road at Oregon State.

907
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: They close out the year Stanford and UCLA. Yeah, it's

908
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 2: not necessarily one of those deals where you've got an

909
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: incredible murderer's row of games. But I don't like going

910
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: on the road to South Bend. I don't like going

911
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: on the road to USC. I don't like having Washington

912
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: and Oregon on back to back weeks. That's a really

913
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: tough draw for a team that you know, like you said,

914
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: is kind of perennially waiting on its offense to take flight.

915
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I mean, that's an Olivia Rodrigo back half, right,

916
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: it's the brutal back half. I don't know if you

917
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 1: have the sound at the ready. I apologize for putting

918
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: you on the spots. Brutal. Look at how quick you are. Yeah,

919
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: you gotta score thirty points against most of those teams

920
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: to win those games, generally speaking, the best of those teams,

921
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,360
Speaker 1: even with what they have on the roster. Now, you

922
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: gotta score thirty points to beat sc probably have score

923
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: thirty to beat Oregon. We'll see on Washington Jazoo probably

924
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 1: this year, since the offense seems to be pretty decent.

925
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 1: I don't know that that's a real tough So I'd

926
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: say making a Bowl for Cal would be a win. So,

927
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. Six and six to me, let's bring

928
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,879
Speaker 1: it home with the Stanford Cardinal. Dan.

929
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Stanford Cardinal over under four and a half last season.

930
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: Three wins. Not a good campaign. Last season. We spent

931
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 2: a good chunk of our coverage as or at least

932
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: to Stanford wondering what the hell happened? Wondering, Okay, this

933
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 2: is the worst we've seen Stanford since I don't know,

934
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 2: two thousand and six, like fifteen years.

935
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 1: It's been a while. Still be Oregon, still be to Oregon.

936
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: Still really bad.

937
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 2: But this is the program that had Andrew Luck. This

938
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 2: is the program with Christian McCaffrey, with Bryce.

939
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: Love, with with with.

940
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 2: Names just college football names that people know and love.

941
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: And it just seems like whatever they've been trying to

942
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: do it, they haven't been able to do it. This

943
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 2: was basically the third straight year of a really disappointing

944
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: team for David Shaw. Won three games last year, but

945
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 2: four games in each of the previous two.

946
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: Well that was that was okay in twenty twenty.

947
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 2: It's okay in twenty I got so much in twenty nineteen.

948
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 2: So where are we at here?

949
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: We turn it a corner? Are we Are we back

950
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: to where we started?

951
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: Like?

952
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: Where are we at here? With the Cardinal? Well, let's

953
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: talk about the good things, Okay. Tanner McKee, former blue

954
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: chip quarterback at his best, seems like a good quarterback,

955
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: big body, a little older because he took an LDS mission.

956
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 1: Offensive line is largely back and hopefully they're able to

957
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: stay healthy. Barry Sanders Junior didn't fully work out as

958
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: a superstar on his dad's level. Maybe EMMITTT. Smith's kid

959
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: EJ Will work out on that level. Taking another bite

960
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: at that apple. The consensus is that they're pretty talented,

961
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: Like David Shaw's recruited pretty impressively on both sides of

962
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 1: the ball, Like there are higher end guys that were

963
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 1: coveted by a bunch of big places, and so like

964
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 1: their receiving core on the surface, like when you see

965
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 1: the best of them, they seem pretty good. And Stanford

966
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: has done a very good job with receivers and tight

967
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: ends specifically and fighting those big bodies and working out

968
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: ways to get them to make bigger explosive plays. On defense,

969
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: you go back a few years, they developed guys, but

970
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a stubbornness. I don't know

971
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: what it is about systems on offense, about how Stanford

972
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 1: teaches quarterback, about how Stamford teach's receivers, develops guys, about

973
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And they're changing to like a four

974
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: man front on defense to try to mix things up,

975
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,359
Speaker 1: and they don't. I don't think they have the big

976
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: bodies upfront on defense to really run a true three

977
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: four like they've tried to do in years past. I

978
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: just don't think they're a very good team. Like we've

979
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: seen ample evidence, and I don't know, like you can

980
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: say last year's offense relative to talent and relative to intention,

981
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: run the ball powerfully to set up passes downfield, and

982
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,720
Speaker 1: they were the least efficient rushing team with highly touted

983
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: offensive linemen and decent enough running backs, And we're the

984
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: least efficient rushing team that you can say relative to

985
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,760
Speaker 1: those things. They were the least successful offense in America

986
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: because they recruit on a level that is much higher

987
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: than other unsuccessful offenses. So I think they can improve.

988
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: I think I'd still be pretty shocked if they made

989
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: a Bowl game this year. I think they can get

990
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,720
Speaker 1: to five games if guys on the defense come together.

991
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: But like you rewatch some of the stuff, and it's

992
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: just they're not good enough at too many positions. Like

993
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,720
Speaker 1: they'll be fine in the secondary this year. Tanner McKay

994
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: needs to be one of the five best quarterbacks in

995
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: the country for them to win eight games this year.

996
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: And that's a lot to ask his schedule. Man, look

997
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: at this thing, Yeah, this is impossible. They have Notre

998
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: Dame in the middle of it. Right somewhere.

999
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got Notre Dame square in the middle of

1000
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: the season. But if you're going to draw four teams

1001
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: from the PAC twelve South, the teams you don't want

1002
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,320
Speaker 2: are Utah on the road, by the way, USC Ucla

1003
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 2: also on the road in Arizona state, a total wildcard. Like,

1004
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: that's not a good draw. They've got six games away

1005
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 2: from home, Washington and Oregon on back to back weeks.

1006
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 2: The Notre Dame game, which you mentioned earlier. Yeah, the

1007
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: Ucla game which I just referenced, the Utah game which

1008
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,960
Speaker 2: I just referenced, and then California the rivalry game before

1009
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 2: are coming back home to play against BYU.

1010
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: The epilogue, Yeah, the crazy epilog game that haunts Pack

1011
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: twelve teams the week after rivalry games.

1012
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: There are zero gimme games on here. This is outside

1013
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 2: of Colgate. Outside of Colgate, which they should win. They're

1014
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,240
Speaker 2: so disrespectful. I apologize. There are no gimmes on the schedule.

1015
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 2: So if you're telling me the over unders four and

1016
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 2: a half, if I'm seeing this correctly, I don't know, man,

1017
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like to your point about crazy defenses

1018
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 2: that scare you in the PAC twelve Stanford. I kind

1019
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: of look at from a different standpoint, all of these

1020
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 2: offenses could potentially be kind of weird and kind of

1021
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: tough to defense outside of Cal maybe outside of Colgate.

1022
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 2: Knowing that Stanford generated almost no pressure, I mean no

1023
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 2: pressure with its defensive line last year, Right, you gotta

1024
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: do better than that. If you're going up against these

1025
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 2: types of offenses, which I think in general should be

1026
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: pretty decent, scare me a lot. If they can't disrupt

1027
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 2: any of these offenses along that front seven, this is

1028
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 2: going to be a problem. This is going to hit

1029
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: that under four and a half. So, yeah, we joke

1030
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 2: about the I'm out man.

1031
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hear you. I mean, look, last year's results

1032
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: are not necessarily indicative of this year's results. But what changed,

1033
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: what changed? What changed?

1034
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 2: What changed is they lost what's his name, Thomas Booker.

1035
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 2: They lost Dalan Wade Perry. Like, these were guys who

1036
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 2: were prominent features on this defense. Not a great defense,

1037
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 2: but still guys who had veteran leadership and experience.

1038
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: There.

1039
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 2: You lose multi year starters, you lose defensive leaders from

1040
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 2: a defense that was already bad. Knowing not much else changed, Ah.

1041
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, they brought in a grad transfer, a grad transfer

1042
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: at safety from Oklahoma, and that's it. And I understand

1043
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 1: the struggles at Stanford is probably always going to have

1044
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: in the portal because of academics and schedules or whatever.

1045
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I understand that is definitely that combined with the early

1046
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,840
Speaker 1: recruiting period, is really a tough break for Stanford. It

1047
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: really is. But coaches are all the same like that,

1048
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 1: what what are we doing here, folks that like Stanford's

1049
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: commitment to academics to be lauded, to be admired, Stanford's

1050
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 1: you know, the continuity of Stanford in a sport that

1051
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, guys are in and out, guys are fired,

1052
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: guys great, It's awesome for Stanford. I'm it truly is

1053
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: like a very cool thing that's has persevered. But that's

1054
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: not what we do here. I know it's not. No,

1055
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm just try here. I'm trying to say Stanford in

1056
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: certain ways represents impressive parts of the stuff. Course, sure,

1057
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: but sure, I don't know, not making the defensive changes

1058
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: in that coaching staff, not making all like it's sort

1059
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: of like David Shaw has his guys and it worked before,

1060
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: it'll work again, and it doesn't seem to be heading

1061
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: anywhere near the right direction, like you. It's one of

1062
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: those things Umber, I think on our SEC preview we

1063
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: talked about it. Makai Pok transferred from Cal to Mississippi

1064
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: State and put up a thousand yards in Mississippi State's

1065
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: air raid last year after not doing much for Cal,

1066
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: because how would you know that he's good? No, how

1067
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: would you know? So like Stanford may have a ton

1068
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: of good players that go on to have excellent NFL careers,

1069
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: but how would we know. How would we know, like

1070
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: Elijah Higgins at receiver is excellent because he's not at

1071
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 1: the right place to be excellent at that position. He's

1072
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: just not. All I'm gonna say is bet the over

1073
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: was Stanford. Bet the over.

1074
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 2: Stanford hit the over fifty percent of the time last year,

1075
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 2: which isn't a number that necessarily pops if you're looking

1076
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 2: at it, kind of middle of the pack. But knowing

1077
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 2: where this defense is, knowing that they've got some losses

1078
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: on their defense, I'm hopeful that their offense be a

1079
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: little bit better, but I think they're gonna give up points.

1080
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 2: I'd bet over bet over, not over four and a half.

1081
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that I was gonna say no, no, no, no, no,

1082
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: let's not let's not get ahead.

1083
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: Of ourselves here. But they were on the total. They

1084
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: were by the way. I don't know how much it'll

1085
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 1: happen this year, but they were definitely overrated by Vegas

1086
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: last year in terms of how Stanford did against the spread.

1087
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: Vegas was giving them a little bit. What did they

1088
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: finished against like twenty five?

1089
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 2: They were one hundred and twenty first nationally. Yeah, against

1090
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 2: the spread, so not good.

1091
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: It probably won't continue. Numbers will probably inflate with Stanford

1092
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: as dogs. But yeah, Vegas at least last year gave

1093
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: them a little more credit in determining lines than they

1094
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: probably were they were earning. All Right, I have Oregon

1095
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,439
Speaker 1: coming out of the North. So do I have Orgon

1096
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: coming out of the North that I think they're good

1097
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: enough to weather a you know, a Bonnicks game or three,

1098
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 1: because I think largely, you know, it'll come against teams

1099
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 1: not in the Pac twelve North. And we're we're heading

1100
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: into a season in which there is no North versus

1101
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: South champion? Is that correct? Is that this year? Is

1102
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: that next year? No, that's this year, that's this year.

1103
00:56:57,719 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: This year.

1104
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 2: Technically speaking, and as we do this preview, as we

1105
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: try to organize things by division, we are still organizing

1106
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 2: it by North and South, because the North and South

1107
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 2: are still a thing, but it's really divisions and name only,

1108
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 2: and from a scheduling standpoint, because the PAC twelve this

1109
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:18,919
Speaker 2: year is doing away with marrying up the best team

1110
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 2: in the South with the best team in the North.

1111
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 2: It's just the best two teams. They're the ones that

1112
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 2: are going to play in the conference championship game. I

1113
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: still think, by the way, it'll be Oregon in Utah, Okay,

1114
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 2: but it doesn't happen to be the USC Utah for sure. Yeah,

1115
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 2: so we'll see.

1116
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough my wild card champion. Again, if

1117
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm marrying quarterback and defense and schedule, how do I

1118
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: not go with your cam warden the Wazoo cougars. Man,

1119
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: I am. I am carrying all the water on this

1120
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: cam Ward caravan. Man.

1121
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: I am fired up, all right, Hop a board, get

1122
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: on the hype train. I'm the flag bearer, whatever you

1123
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 2: want to call me, I am. I am out front

1124
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 2: on cam.

1125
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: Ward, by the way, and we'll know early, like you say,

1126
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 1: you know who teams are by December. Cam Ward has

1127
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 1: Wisconsin week two. There's such a dick. Yeah yeah, Cam

1128
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 1: Woard and that's at cam Brandle. Yes that game. Yep, okay, God,

1129
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: that's gonna be such a fun game. I hope. I'm

1130
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: really hopeful that's gonna be a fun game because hopefully

1131
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: that the teams will sort of round into shape at

1132
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: least by week two. You know, we always talk about

1133
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: the difference between week one and week two being the

1134
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: most pronounced. I can't wait. That'll be a fun one. So, yeah,

1135
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: there's your PAC twelve North. Should we talk altitude. Let's

1136
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,400
Speaker 1: let's climb this Mountain West Mountain. If you are ever

1137
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: so inclined, I am so fully in on picking games

1138
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: with altitude as possibly the most important factor. Like I'm

1139
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: already like ready and willing to pick against Arkansas traveling

1140
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: to Provo right in the I mean BYU is not

1141
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 1: the Mountain West, but the Mountain West adjacent. Anytime a

1142
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: Mountain West Mountain team hosts what appears to be a

1143
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: much better team, Lee Carson, not so fast, So talk

1144
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: to me about the Mountain Mountain.

1145
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: By the way, everyone's getting rid of the visions. The

1146
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: Mountain West is never allowed to because the Mountain West

1147
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: has a Mountain and a West division. It's perfect. It

1148
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 2: does not look out any better than that.

1149
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have the Atlantic and Coastal with the Atlantic

1150
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:24,680
Speaker 1: Coastal Conference, but it's the Mountainous. It's not worth It

1151
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: is not the Mountain West Mountain or the Mountain West West. Perfect.

1152
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: Keep it. I agree the way it is. Where do

1153
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: you want me to start in the Mountain West Mountain, Well,

1154
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 1: let's go with the champ, the defending champ. You toss

1155
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: State the Aggies. Man, I disrespected them last year.

1156
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 2: I did, continued, Well, it's it's an interesting case study.

1157
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: And our friend Bill Connolly did a lot of work

1158
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 2: on Utah State because it was a charm season for

1159
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 2: Blake Anderson.

1160
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:50,520
Speaker 1: Year one.

1161
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 2: They win eleven games, they win the conference one, you

1162
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: know one mount West. Incredible. But what Bill went through

1163
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: and found was super interesting, and his point was that

1164
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 2: Utah State was kind of a statistical anomaly to your

1165
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: point of disrespect, right one to eleven games hated by

1166
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: his sp plus metric. Why were they hated?

1167
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a.

1168
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 2: Team that won a bunch of one score games. The

1169
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 2: three games they lost were kind of blowouts, just a

1170
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that didn't add up. His thing is

1171
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: that Utah State was basically bullied by big plays and

1172
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: really good red zone defense, and that was its good

1173
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: place to start. Yeah, it's a good place to sorry,

1174
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 2: Like you'd rather have that than not. But because they

1175
01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 2: were so strong in those two aspects of their game,

1176
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: there were other parts that were seriously lacking that were

1177
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 2: sort of masked, and they played really well in one

1178
01:00:48,320 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 2: score games. Like I like to use the one score

1179
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: game thing. I know there's a little bit of luck there.

1180
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 2: I like to use that as a metric for what

1181
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: kind of a grit does a team have. You know,

1182
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 2: if you're losing one score games, like nine of them,

1183
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 2: or nine games by less than ten points in Nebraska, like,

1184
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 2: that tells me something about the composition of your team.

1185
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: It tells me a lot in.

1186
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 2: Utah States case, that they were so good at once

1187
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 2: more games the way that they were. I don't think

1188
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 2: they're going to repeat that kind of luck this season.

1189
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,400
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. Logan Bonner's back at quarterback.

1190
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: He's fun to watch. They've got their running back, they've

1191
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 2: got most of their line back. They tried to address

1192
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 2: the receiver position through the portal.

1193
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: We'll see.

1194
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 2: I think a regression is coming here for Blake Anderson.

1195
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 2: I think it's hard to get back to eleven wins.

1196
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 2: They'll still be fine, but they're not going to get

1197
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 2: to eleven wins. They've also got BAM a week two,

1198
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: so we'll get to see what they can do, and

1199
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 2: no one's probably beating BAM out not at altitude. Yeah,

1200
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: not at altitude. And Bama is a tough draw for sure,

1201
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel good generally speaking about Utah State,

1202
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: I think they'll be a good school to watch. Just

1203
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 2: don't expect eleven wins. Expect some form of regression.

1204
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: They miss what Fresno in San Diego State from the west,

1205
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, yeah, I'm looking at their schedule right now.

1206
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the Alabama game is whatever it is.

1207
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: They're on the road against BYU, But otherwise they finished

1208
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 1: at Boise State. I think Thanksgiving weekend, right, Yeah, I do.

1209
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: Schedule is pretty decent, and so was that year one

1210
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: for Blake Anderson. You're one I don't know, man. If

1211
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: you are winning despite certain factors in year one and

1212
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: you have a good enough amount of time to correct

1213
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: some of those things, and you bring back a quarterback.

1214
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's is a good base layer,

1215
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: a good it's aoundation. It's great. Yeah, it's great. The

1216
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: program in a good spot, but I think are aggression

1217
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,440
Speaker 1: is coming a little bit of a regrets. Okay, so

1218
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 1: more of an eight win team than it.

1219
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: Now, you mentioned Boise Yeah, you mentioned Boise State. Let's

1220
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 2: talk about Boise State. Let's speaking of our friend Bill Connolly.

1221
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: He points out that the problems at Boise lash year

1222
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 2: or almost the exact opposite of Utah State. Interestingly enough,

1223
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: so this is a team that was very efficient but

1224
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 2: ran into trouble because they didn't have any big plays.

1225
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 2: And that's sort of the theme as well this season.

1226
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 2: That's the big question as you look forward into boise

1227
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: s date twenty twenty two. A lot of talents back,

1228
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 2: the defense looks really good, but Boise has what you

1229
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 2: like to call a problem problem correct.

1230
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 1: Going into twenty twenty two. I love that term.

1231
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 2: There's a problem problem. Who is going to generate those

1232
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 2: big plays? Who's taking the lid off the defense? Who

1233
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: is that guy who is the pain in the ass

1234
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: that you got to worry about? Where's this guy at

1235
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 2: Who's matched up with him, what are they going to

1236
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: do to try and get him in space and get

1237
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: him the ball?

1238
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: Right?

1239
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 2: I don't know who that guy is. I read a

1240
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 2: bunch of previews. Nobody seems to know who that guy is.

1241
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 2: Everybody likes Hank Bachmeyer, decent or not.

1242
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: Quarterbill there.

1243
01:03:55,120 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 2: Everybody likes Stefan Cobbs, really good possession receiver, catches everything

1244
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 2: thrown within like a ten foot radius of them, great

1245
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 2: possession guy. Who's the problem, Yeah, who's who's that guy?

1246
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 2: That's the question for Boise State this year. I like

1247
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: Boise a lot. I think Boise probably probably comes out

1248
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 2: of the Mountain west Mount if I am picking right now.

1249
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 2: But there are no obvious answers for that true playmaker.

1250
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 1: On offense, they couldn't run the ball at all last year.

1251
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: That was their thing, right, They were like they were

1252
01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: really good in spots, Like they were really good staying

1253
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: on the field. They were efficient, as you mentioned, Yeah,

1254
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: but they weren't able to you know's what's their second pitch?

1255
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: What's the third pitch? They didn't have that on offense.

1256
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,440
Speaker 1: And look it's your one for Andy Avlos and his staff,

1257
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 1: Like you get the full drawing board offseason. But yeah,

1258
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: I think you're right about Boise and the problem problem problem, problem, need,

1259
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 1: the problem problem. If I am not picking Boise, I

1260
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: am picking air Force. I am all in on air

1261
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 1: Force altitude and the option. Who the hell and the

1262
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: quietest ten win team last year? Ten and three man? Yeah,

1263
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: and look, I'm not even an option guy. You know

1264
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: that about me. I despise the option. You're the worst.

1265
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: I love the air Force. Good, Oh, I love the

1266
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: air Force. I am so in on air Force. This year.

1267
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: They bring back most of their team from a ten

1268
01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: win season. Last year. They lost their defensive coordinator to Virginia.

1269
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: But I'm really high in this team. I think they're

1270
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 2: gonna be solid. All three losses last year were by

1271
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 2: one score. I'm a big Hazeque Daniels guy. What a

1272
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 2: cool name. I want to be named his ze because

1273
01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,479
Speaker 2: he killed in Brandt. Does it work?

1274
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,360
Speaker 1: It works? I would hang out with Hazeke kilden Brand.

1275
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the offense picks up right where it

1276
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 2: left off last season. I think the defense will mostly

1277
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 2: pick up where it left off, even though they lose

1278
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:51,600
Speaker 2: their DC. Vince Sandford is a dude you've probably never

1279
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: heard of. But he's an absolute beast along the linebacking

1280
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 2: Quarrel almost that offensive line, but he could probably play

1281
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,479
Speaker 2: there if he wanted. He's a monster. The over under

1282
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 2: for this team is eight and a half. Here's a

1283
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 2: free play from ty Hill and brand I love that over.

1284
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 2: I love that over so much. Air Force so much.

1285
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 2: This year, they're gonna be fun as hell to watch.

1286
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of pains in the ass, if that's our theme here.

1287
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 2: It's not the theme, but if it were trying to

1288
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 2: stop that offense when they've got so many guys who

1289
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 2: are good at running, it is just so tough to

1290
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 2: watch if you are going up against Air Force. So

1291
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: I'm in on this team. I don't know if they

1292
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:37,439
Speaker 2: ascend to the true top of this mountain, but I am.

1293
01:06:37,640 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 2: I am very much in on the Falcons and I'm

1294
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 2: excited to see what this looks like this season.

1295
01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 1: I think they'll be very good. Yeah, they finish at

1296
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 1: San Diego State, but otherwise and look, it's you can

1297
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: look at their road schedule, but I don't think they

1298
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,560
Speaker 1: lost on the road last year. Right. It's a good team. Man,

1299
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: telling me, when you are the United States Air Force

1300
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 1: and traveling for missions is what you do, you don't

1301
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 1: lose on the road. So yeah, I can say that

1302
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 1: they travel with San Diego, which by the way, I

1303
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 1: think San Diego has San Diego State has their their

1304
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: new stadium, that Dragon Stadium. Baby there it is that. Yeah,

1305
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 1: air Force can be really good. And by the way,

1306
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: you mentioning the DC who left for Virginia last year

1307
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: and hopefully it keeps up this year. They were one

1308
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: of like the best ten teams at forcing offenses to

1309
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: go three and out. If you are running that kind

1310
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 1: of ball control offense and you can get your defense

1311
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:30,920
Speaker 1: the hell off of the field, it's such an advantage,

1312
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 1: isn't it. What a weapon it's it's the it has

1313
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 1: to be the worst experience, that's what I'm saying. It's

1314
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: rooting against air Force. It's horrible. Good for the Falcons,

1315
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 1: it's horrible. They're by the way, they're the guy that

1316
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: you play in Madden who just runs the clock out

1317
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: mm hmm. And they're the worst, but they're the best,

1318
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:54,200
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, it's a definitive strategy. By the way,

1319
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: you sang like the free play from Ty hilden Brandt,

1320
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: that was your you're over for air Force. Your free

1321
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: play we have to find some way for the general

1322
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: public to compete against you against the spread. I don't

1323
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: know if it's a weekly thing. I don't know if

1324
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,520
Speaker 1: it's a yearly thing. Obviously we have our game Patreon,

1325
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: verballers dot com. Sure I want, isn't there there's like

1326
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 1: a Fox game. We're like win Terry Bradshaw's money. Wasn't there?

1327
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: There was the win ben Stein's money thing too. Wasn't

1328
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: of course win ben Stein's money. I want. I don't

1329
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,760
Speaker 1: know if you have the money to put up, but

1330
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: I most certainly be a humble podcaster, but I want

1331
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:34,640
Speaker 1: some way to bet against tie for like maybe the

1332
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: public in general, everybody comes together to figure out the

1333
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 1: picks to use to bet against. Time.

1334
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:41,439
Speaker 2: You're saying, say hello to the bad guy right here,

1335
01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: exactly exactly, say hello to the bad guy. Yeah, I

1336
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: give off that dark vibe. So I appreciate you noticing that.

1337
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 2: We'll see you workshops that Okay, I'll let you. Yeah,

1338
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 2: that can be your workshop.

1339
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: Fair. Uh, next, let's talk I don't know, let's let's

1340
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: talk Wyoming. Let's not an altitude no no, no, let's

1341
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,960
Speaker 1: talk army. Oh to the United States Army we're staying

1342
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: with the United States theme here. I like that you did.

1343
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:05,599
Speaker 1: Air Force.

1344
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 2: Army's not in the Mountain West Mountain, but Army is

1345
01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 2: a very good college football team in its own right.

1346
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: And you've got BYU on the next episode. The only other,

1347
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: I guess, independent team that we're going to cover here

1348
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 2: is Army. Army went nine and four last year. They

1349
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: beat Missoo in the Armed Forces Bowl, a bit of

1350
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 2: a dramatic ending. They won on a walk off forty

1351
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:25,680
Speaker 2: one yard field goal twenty four to twenty two, and

1352
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 2: beat the Missoo Tigers. Christian Anderson, who was their quarterback,

1353
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: their leading rusher, he graduated and so that's a big loss.

1354
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 2: But the good news is that the five guys behind

1355
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 2: him on the stat sheet are all back. This is

1356
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: a very tie heavy team.

1357
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 1: Okay. In twenty twenty two, we've got Tayer Tyler.

1358
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: You hear me, Tayer Tyler, I hear you. Yeah, he's

1359
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 2: the new starting quarterback. He takes over. He got plenty

1360
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 2: of reps last season. He was one of the team's

1361
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: leading rushers, so you got a lot of work. Tyrell

1362
01:09:57,400 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: Robinson is a slotback.

1363
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:00,719
Speaker 1: There's tie number two, who.

1364
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 2: Is also back this season, as is Jacoby Buchanan. I

1365
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,200
Speaker 2: was hoping for a tie in there, but okay, no

1366
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:10,440
Speaker 2: more ties. I apologize.

1367
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:11,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

1368
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 2: He led the team and carries led the team in

1369
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns with twelve. And the interesting nugget on him

1370
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: is that in his college career, Jacoby Buchanan has never

1371
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:22,960
Speaker 2: been tackled for loss.

1372
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 1: Never love it, ice box, big tree, fall hard and

1373
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: forward right. Yeah.

1374
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,840
Speaker 2: H So there are some losses along the line, which

1375
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: is a little concerning given the system that they run.

1376
01:10:34,840 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 2: We're talking another option team here. But I think all

1377
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 2: things considered, this has been a really stable program the

1378
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 2: last couple of seasons. They know how to run that system.

1379
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:47,280
Speaker 2: They replenish it well. I think they will be fine.

1380
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,120
Speaker 2: I am an in on Army.

1381
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: Defense is experienced. They lose big Eric Smith.

1382
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 2: That's Eric with an a right at linebacker, but Andre Carter,

1383
01:10:57,800 --> 01:11:00,280
Speaker 2: the second is back and he is an absolute loop

1384
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,639
Speaker 2: monster at linebacker. He's six to seven. He had fifteen

1385
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 2: and a half sacks, that four force fumbles a couple

1386
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 2: of them. He was only behind Will Anderson in that

1387
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: s Thank you for the exasperated Will Anderson Third team

1388
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: All American. Keep your eyes on Andre Carter the second

1389
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,920
Speaker 2: he's on Monster, they're over unders eight. They open up

1390
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 2: with Coastal Carolina on the Road, UTSA at Home in

1391
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 2: week two. I will save my official projection for the

1392
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,600
Speaker 2: United States Army in terms of that record for the

1393
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 2: Over Under Show, which I think will do as I

1394
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:37,760
Speaker 2: said in a couple episodes, but I could imagine a

1395
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,880
Speaker 2: world in which Army gets to eleven wins.

1396
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: I think, wow, really good team again. I mean they

1397
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,240
Speaker 1: almost be Navy last year. I know they almost be

1398
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: a terrible, terrible version of the United States Naval Academy

1399
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:53,920
Speaker 1: last year. So yeah, it's getting off the field. It's

1400
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,720
Speaker 1: the same thing that Air Force was able to do.

1401
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 1: If Army is able to replicate that, then they become

1402
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: the rogue dentist of the FBS independence. Now we go

1403
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 1: to Wyoming. We can go to Wyoming.

1404
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,599
Speaker 2: That we've United States Air Force and UH and Army.

1405
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: Craig Ball whose head is shaped like the organeaue our

1406
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:17,719
Speaker 1: favorite joke here, I forgot about that. It's true. It's amazing.

1407
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: It looks like the inside of the Oregone. It's an oval.

1408
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's a perfect race track shape.

1409
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 2: Amazing, He's got to figure something out at offense. He's

1410
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 2: a defensive guy. That's kind of his his his his,

1411
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:38,959
Speaker 2: I don't know his his genre of coaching. Okay, pedigree

1412
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 2: is the word I was trying to think of. His

1413
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: defenses have been pretty good, his offenses have not, and

1414
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 2: they lose a lot this season. They're kind of starting

1415
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: over in that offensive department. So this is a team

1416
01:12:50,479 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 2: that went seven and six last year, two and six

1417
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 2: in conference. I have the same questions this year as

1418
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 2: we did last and so defense will be fine. Offense

1419
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,840
Speaker 2: I have no idea offense I think could potentially be

1420
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:07,720
Speaker 2: another wreck. So kind of out on Wyoming. They ran

1421
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 2: the ball decently well last year. I don't know what

1422
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 2: their schedule looks like this here, but they also lose

1423
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,799
Speaker 2: my boy, Isaiah Nayer, who transfers down to Texas.

1424
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:18,959
Speaker 1: Guy. I think I'm out of Wyoming.

1425
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 2: I like Craig Bowl generally speaking, but right more is

1426
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 2: a defensive mind than an offensive mind.

1427
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, Wyoming's scared. They got Villinois, which is probably must

1428
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: win for the ALIONI to get to a bowl game. Yeah,

1429
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: they're the road slide. I don't know. Yeah, I guess

1430
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm out on them. I'm out.

1431
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,799
Speaker 2: I'm out Colorado State. I'm just gonna go to Colorado

1432
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: State new coach Jay Norvell. There were three and nine

1433
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: last season. Norvel takes over very highly regarded Jay Norvell.

1434
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 1: You mentioned how.

1435
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 2: You mentioned how there has been extreme turnover at a

1436
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 2: couple of schools that you covered, and you know, accepting

1437
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,799
Speaker 2: a lot of transfer or whatnot.

1438
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1439
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 2: Can anybody top j Norvell accepting eleven guys transferring over

1440
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 2: from Nevada?

1441
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:12,360
Speaker 1: Can anybody top that? Yeah, Tyson Helton would like a word.

1442
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean, he tried that a little bit with the

1443
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,760
Speaker 2: Houston Baptist experiment last year, but bringing eleven guys over

1444
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: from your previous school is definitely a vibe.

1445
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,680
Speaker 1: I hope he physically drove them in a like a

1446
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 1: giant touring van or bus. Like guys. I wanted to

1447
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,839
Speaker 1: tell you myself, it says school students on the side. Yeah,

1448
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: I have accepted the Colorado State head coach and John no, no, no, no.

1449
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: Before before you freak out, I've arranged for some transportation, yeah, to.

1450
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 2: Get to Fort College. Eleven guys. So, yeah, eleven guys.

1451
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:50,800
Speaker 2: Extreme turnover is the name of the game for Colorado State.

1452
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: I think the defense will be okay. I think Norvell

1453
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: will do a good job here. I like j Norvell,

1454
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: I really do. I think he's a good coach. I

1455
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 2: think he will build them up. Colorado State's got a

1456
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: bigger football budget than where he was at at Nevada,

1457
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 2: and so they will give him, I think the resources

1458
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: that he needs to make that program thrive, but it.

1459
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: Might take a while.

1460
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 2: Don't expect anything crazy in year one with Jane Norvel. Certainly,

1461
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 2: don't expect anything crazy because they're going to Michigan week one. Sure,

1462
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 2: it's not a good way to start things off. Who's

1463
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: playing quarterback for Colorado State?

1464
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:28,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, I don't know. It doesn't matter. Yeah,

1465
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: all right, go Rams for Collins. I've said this on

1466
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:33,880
Speaker 1: the show before. Low key pretty high on my list

1467
01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:37,040
Speaker 1: of college towns. I haven't been to that. I would

1468
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,839
Speaker 1: love to go see a game. They have a new stadium,

1469
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 1: good things about you. You've got to go to altitude, Tye.

1470
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: You have to go to altitude, but I've heard good things.

1471
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: Would love to go, So yeah, go Rams. Clay Millon

1472
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 1: I believe is the name of the oh Clay Millon

1473
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,120
Speaker 1: So he was at one point I think and was

1474
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:57,040
Speaker 1: he an Oregon Duck or was his brother in Oregon

1475
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,000
Speaker 1: duck who transferred a couple times? I think he transferred

1476
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 1: about and transfer Colorado State. Okay, the son of Hume Mellon,

1477
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 1: former Washington player an announcer.

1478
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there were there were articles written in the

1479
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:14,200
Speaker 2: uh in the Denver Post about a nice spiral that

1480
01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: he threw in the spring game.

1481
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so take that for so there's that one time

1482
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 1: Northwestern quarterback commit.

1483
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 2: If that is good for him to get out of there, man,

1484
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 2: don't go, don't go to Yeah, all right. New Mexico

1485
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:30,000
Speaker 2: final team three and nine, also three and nine last season.

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01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: Danny Gonzalez took over knowing he would need to rebuild things.

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Speaker 2: That is an ongoing project for mister Gonzalez. The defense

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01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 2: did get better last season, if only because Rocky Long

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Speaker 2: came on you remember him, yeah, and was defensive coordinator.

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01:16:45,320 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: Rocky Long knows defense. It's just what he does. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: probably room for further improvement on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 2: Offense are real problem here. I mean, it's just kind

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Speaker 2: of going to be a disaster. So a lot more

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 2: work for Danny Gonzalez. Hopefully the defense improves to help

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Speaker 2: give the offense a little bit more support.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's gonna be a work in progress there.

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Speaker 1: All right, fair enough? So who do you have? You said,

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Speaker 1: Boise coming out of the uh, I've got I've got Boise.

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: But if you get a few drinks of me, you

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Speaker 1: could talk be an air Force I don't even think

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01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: you need drinks now, I need I need at least one,

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01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: like a seven percent. There's that game? Where's that game

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01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:26,320
Speaker 1: this year? Where's air Force? Boys? Look it up? If

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01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: you have the schedule in front of you, air Force

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01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:34,599
Speaker 1: boy C this year is in. It's in. It's at

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01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: air Force. It's at air Force. Yeah. At altitude? Well yeah, Boise,

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01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,719
Speaker 1: is it out there, dude? Yeah, they're in a freaking

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01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,599
Speaker 1: division called the Mountain here in the mountain. Yeah, all right,

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01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 1: fair enough? This is fun, Dan.

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Speaker 2: We got one more of these to do. It'll be

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01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:52,080
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve South. How's your energy?

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01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 1: You're feeling good? I feel pretty good. Okay, you sound good.

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01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: You sound a little nasal, but you seem like you're

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01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 1: hanging in pretty well. I'm good. By the way, air

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: Force Colorado Springs should mention because I said at yeah,

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01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna eat some lunch maybe before we

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01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: track our PAC twelve South show. Peel behind the curtain,

1518
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:16,759
Speaker 1: but or peel back the curtain. My energy level is good, good,

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01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: and I'm excited for the PAC twelve of North. I'm

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01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: excited for the Mountain West Mountain, and I'm excited for

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01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 1: all of us to get to watch.

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Speaker 2: So, look, we need some help with socials this year. Yeah,

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: we said it a couple of times now, but if

1524
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,679
Speaker 2: you're interested, the email address is apply at solidverbal dot com.

1525
01:18:31,720 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 2: We are looking for somebody who has done this before.

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01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 2: Somebody knows how to cut short videos. Someone who can

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01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: help us put together like a social content plan of sorts.

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01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 2: Who can help us make sure that we're promoting and

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01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 2: tweeting out all the good stuff that we're doing on

1530
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,640
Speaker 2: the website, through the podcast, out on YouTube, what have you.

1531
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 2: If you are interested, if you've got some relevant experience,

1532
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: send us your stuff. Let us know what you've done.

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01:18:56,920 --> 01:18:59,839
Speaker 2: Apply at solid verbal dot com is the email address,

1534
01:19:00,360 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 2: and if we like what we see, we'll reach back

1535
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 2: out to you. But it is an area where speaking

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01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 2: of all these teams that need to like plug holes

1537
01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 2: and build up an offense or build up a defense.

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01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 2: That is one area where you and I can't. We

1539
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,479
Speaker 2: just there isn't enough of us to go around in

1540
01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:17,160
Speaker 2: order to take care of that stuff. So we could

1541
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:20,240
Speaker 2: use your help if you are ever so inclined.

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01:19:20,360 --> 01:19:22,799
Speaker 1: Correct, and we pay American dollars.

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01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,800
Speaker 2: We will pay American dollars for this. Yes, important important point.

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01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: Love it okay? That is the PAC twelve North. PAC

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01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: twelve South will be our tenth and final preview episode

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01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 2: that is coming up on our very next episode. Hit

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Speaker 2: that subscribe button if you want to hang around all

1548
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Speaker 2: season long as we dive into the college football season

1549
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Speaker 2: before us, go on out to verballers dot com if

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Speaker 2: of for ballers. Go on out to solid verbal live

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Speaker 2: us live and either Chicago, New York, Atlanta or LA

1555
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 2: over the next few months. And last, would certainly not

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Speaker 2: least tell a friend, man, tell a friend subscribe to

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Speaker 2: the show for that guy over there, my good friend

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Speaker 2: Dan Rubins de for myself, Tie hilding Brand.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you all soon. The meantimes stay solid,

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Speaker 1: Peace