1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: This time of the year, their job openings. People. I mean, 2 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: these bad teams, they're working on the draft, they're looking 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: at they're looking at free agency, They're mapping out the 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: future the athletics. Senior NFL Insider cover the NFL for 5 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: a decade. Diana Russini is now joining US Live. So 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: let's just address the one. Marcus Freeman was maybe a 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: long shot, but I do think that Marcus is one 8 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,840 Speaker 1: of those rare college coaches that everybody in the NFL 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: just thinks energy talent. Why this morning, Okay, I'll tell you. 10 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: The cynical column is that now that the Giants can't 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: get Fernando Mendoza, Freeman looks at that and goes Jackson 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: darts three and eight. I like Notre Dame. I'm staying 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: in college. That's the cynical me. Why the time, Why 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: the timing today that he's staying at Notre Dame. 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate that you stay cynical through the entire 16 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: year here, which is a few. 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 3: Days left in twenty twenty five. 18 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: Look, the New York Giants were not the only team 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: who are interested in Marcus Freeman, So I get what 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 2: you're saying. That lines up for why he would perhaps 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: not be interested in New York. There were at least 22 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 2: four other teams I know poking around on Marcus Freeman. 23 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 2: And when I stay poking around because some of those 24 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: teams have a coach currently in place, right, which makes 25 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: sense because there's only two available head coaching jobs right 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: now on the table, that being the New York Giants 27 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: and the Tennessee Titans, who you know, both organizations definitely 28 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: had plans of bringing Marcus Freeman in and New York 29 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 2: made the most sense. There's some connections there, and I 30 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: do think in terms of what the New York Giants 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: are looking for, Marcus Freeman lined up with that. Because 32 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 2: back to the conversation we had every time this year, right, 33 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: leader of men? What were we talking about last year 34 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: this time of year as well? Leader of men? Who 35 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: were those people? And we see how that has fared? 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: So what does this leave New York? 37 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 4: Now? 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 2: Okay, so you got Jeff Hafley, the Packers defense of coordinator. 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 2: You have lou Annarumo, the Colts defensive coordinator. He interviewed 40 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: for the job before and did very well. From what 41 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: I recall, I could see him, you know, having a 42 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 2: really good shot at getting this job, Brian Flores. Did 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: you see that clinic that defense put on against the 44 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 2: Detroit Lions at home on Christmas Day? The New York 45 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 2: Giants were watching. I was down on the sideline for 46 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 2: that colin and it was incredible. And I talked to 47 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: flora Is actually at the game about his future and 48 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: he's like, look, I'm happy here in Minnesota. I love 49 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 2: being part of this organization. We'll see who calls. People 50 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 2: are gonna be calling. I can tell you that organizations 51 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: have Brian Flora's on their board. Chris Shula in La Right, 52 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: anytime you're around Sean McVeigh, anytime you have a name 53 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 2: like Shula, it's a good thing. And he has done 54 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 2: a tremendous job with the defense that wasn't supposed to 55 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: be this good and they're spectacular. 56 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would hire Brian Floras in one second. I 57 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: think Brian Flores is really one of the sharp guys 58 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: out there. I like him. 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: Allure this name out for the New York Giants just 60 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 2: for your reaction. This isn't a name on their board. 61 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 2: I just want your feelings. Robert salah Well. 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was a huge mistake when Sala got fired. 63 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: They were going to Buffalo and if they won, they'd 64 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: be tied for first. I thought it was egregious when 65 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: they let go of him. I also think you could 66 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: argue that Jets it's quicksand Darnold couldn't win there. Nobody 67 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: can win there like Aaron Rodgers looks better. All I 68 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: know is if you gave me three guys to hire 69 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: in this next cycle, I would do Sala Flores one 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: and two. I think they're great. I don't know Shula 71 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: well enough. I always feel like so much as McVeigh magic. 72 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Everything he touches is great. So I just think Brian 73 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: Floor is in Minnesota and Sala high energy, kind of intimidating, 74 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: like a guys guy, a player's player, kind of an 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: alpha thing. I don't know the big And then Marcus Freeman, 76 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: I thought it's great, but he is a college guy, 77 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: not a pro guy. 78 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, And here's the thing with Sala, I do think 79 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: he is a good mix. He's obviously a fantastic defensive coordinator. 80 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 2: Look at what the San Francisco forty nine ers are 81 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: working with and look at the performance that they've been 82 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 2: able to do it week in and week out. Is 83 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 2: it pretty? No, Right, it's not perfect. You know, he's 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: sitting there like, how am I going to make this work? 85 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 2: But I think he's done a really good job of 86 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 2: just rallying those guys. And I think for an organization 87 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 2: like the New York Giants that lacks accountability, to me, 88 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: that's got to be the word on the board in 89 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: the meeting room with these coaches. Can you hold players accountable? 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: Right? 91 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: Because some of the knot that we had on solo 92 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 2: when Aaron Rodgers was there, Remember we said you had 93 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 2: to have a very specific characteristic in order for that 94 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 2: to work with the Rogers, right, and we see that, 95 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: and who Mike Tomlin It's working great, you see that? 96 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: And who Arthur Smith? 97 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: Right? 98 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: Arthur Smith's another name that I think is going to 99 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 2: make some rounds here once again to get an opportunity 100 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: because Arthur also has a really good, obviously offensive mind, 101 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: but he's not scared of these players. He is not 102 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 2: scared to go up to the best guy on the 103 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 2: team and say, yeah, that's not good enough. And that's 104 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: what the New York John's are looking for, because accountability 105 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 2: was really it is the biggest flaw in that building. 106 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: So we were talking about this during the break, and 107 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 1: I think I've been saying this three years, is that 108 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: when you look at Philadelphia against Buffalo, Philadelphia has got 109 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: a lot more good players and it's not close. Buffalo 110 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: has a superstar quarterback, a very good left tackle, a 111 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: nice running back. So my take is Denver could bounce 112 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: out Buffalo in the first round, Jacksonville could, New England could, 113 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: And my take is there are very rarely is there 114 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: a great job opening. When Matt Lafleur got Green Bay 115 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers late prime, that's a great job. That is 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: a great hardball, getting justin Herbert Vrabel, getting Drake May 117 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: and that owner. Those are really good jobs. Buffalo loses 118 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: round one, gets whack at Diana. 119 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 120 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: That feels like to me, that's trouble, doesn't it. 121 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: I know, you mean, I don't think you're wrong. I 122 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 2: don't think it's it's a lock for sure. I mean, 123 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 2: how could it be right? You have Josh Allen in 124 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: his prime and you continue to dance, but you don't 125 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: go to the big one right, And it just seems 126 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: like they don't have the makeup that they need to 127 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: get over this hump and this has to be it. 128 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 2: And look, this is not to be defensive of Buffalo. Well, 129 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: look what Josh is working with, as you just pointed out, 130 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: Look at that Philly offense, Look at that roster compared 131 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: to Buffalo's roster, and yet Josh Allen is staying in 132 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 2: these games and almost winning it. I mean, if he 133 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 2: makes that pass there in the end zone and it's 134 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: to the right just a bit, you know it's game over. 135 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: And look you I don't want to question Sean McDermott, 136 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: but first of all, this is a head coach who 137 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 2: was against the toush Bush. Right, they run it twice yesterday, 138 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: and then on top of that, you already see the 139 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 2: fact that this Philly offense isn't clicking, right, They did 140 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 2: not have a good day, right, and to go for two. 141 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 2: I understand the confidence, the belief in Josh Allen and 142 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: your offense, but big picture, in that moment, I don't 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 2: necessarily agree that that was the right call. And I 144 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: know that's of course very easy for us to say 145 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: on Monday when when the catch isn't made. But yeah, 146 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 2: that is certainly going to be one of the teams 147 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: that will be keeping an eye on, depending on how 148 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: this shakes out. But you know, next week it could 149 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: be busy, you know, I know we talk about this 150 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: a lot, like I think there's like an average of 151 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: five head coaching openings every year. Right, So we got 152 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: the Giants, the Titians. I'm expecting at least four more 153 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: on top of that, right, So that puts us at six. 154 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,559 Speaker 2: And we're not even talking about some of these teams 155 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 2: that are going to be dancing to the playoffs, right, 156 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: because there's always one or two head coaches out of 157 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: that group. But you know, the right owner the quarterback 158 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: shows how much success and how you can be off 159 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 2: on the right foot, Ben Johnson obviously, now that Mike Vrabel, 160 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: now that that was an off season that was Look 161 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: how we can reflect on that. Liam Collen. 162 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, these three new. 163 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 2: Head coaches are having spectacular seasons. I just don't think 164 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 2: it's going to be as exciting this offseason in terms 165 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: of the type of talented head coaches that are in 166 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 2: this pool. 167 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Okay, so Mendoz is going to go to the Raiders. 168 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: They need a quarterback. I actually said, I thought when 169 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: you combine Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly and Gino Smith, I said, 170 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I picked him for fourth. But I said they could 171 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: be a really interesting team. They could win seven games. 172 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: They could be a spoiler. Late it is a disaster. 173 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Now the disaster turns into the number one pick. So 174 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: maybe everybody's brilliant and I'm not seeing the obvious stuff. 175 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: But Tom Brady's not sitting around forever. They've got you know, 176 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: Mark Davis went out and took some money from other 177 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: people who have a voice. 178 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: Is there? 179 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Could the Raiders just blow this whole thing up? 180 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Here's what I want to see happen. Okay, So obviously 181 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: Tom Brady being part of anything in life is going 182 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 2: to be good for you because the guy knows how 183 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: to win. He's the best at what he does. He's 184 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: been around football and he lives it, breads it, all 185 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: of it. He's doing a lot right like he's calling games. 186 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: He has a family in Florida. He's in touch with 187 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: people with the Raiders. He's got his eyes and ears 188 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: on the ground there with people that are working with 189 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 2: the Raiders organization. I just think this offseason, I actually 190 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 2: want more Tom Brady. I think that's what Vegas needs. 191 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: More input from him and more of a presence. I 192 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: think that's important. Think about if you're just a Raider, 193 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: you're a young player, and Tom Brady's walking around your 194 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 2: building like how different are you behaving? How different are 195 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 2: you acting? It's the grown up the best at it 196 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: there and the Max Crosby situation. You know, I don't 197 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 2: know who made that call, but you have to figure 198 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: Tom Brady's thinking future. He's thinking about the organization as 199 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 2: a whole, what's best for them. Max Crosby dealing with 200 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: the knee injury going back to October. I know he's 201 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: a competitor and he wants to be out there. I 202 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 2: understand why they shut him down. But that being said, 203 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 2: Max Crosby is the best thing going for the Raiders. 204 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: He's setting the example, the standard. If you lose Max Crosby, 205 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: you think things are banned now in terms of the 206 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: Raiders and what they're about and what they believe in 207 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 2: and how he's the thing that makes that place great 208 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: and if you lose him mentally, those are my concerns. 209 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 2: So if your question is they've blown this thing up, 210 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: how could they not look at this coaching staff and 211 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 2: go it has to be better because what it is now, 212 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,839 Speaker 2: it's just it discombobulated, right, It does it. It's not InSync. 213 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: You don't even know what the raiders are. It's December 214 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: twenty ninth. What are the raiders? 215 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: I have no idea, Diana Russini. This next three months 216 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: for you is crazy town. So I know, like you've 217 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: got a big family here and you're very, very busy. 218 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: But we love having you on the show. You bring 219 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: great energy and insight and I appreciate it. 220 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 2: Thank you. You know, everyone always says, oh, you're so 221 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: busy in season. I love the season. It's football, right. 222 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: My job starts like January seventh, is actually when my 223 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: jobs are. It's like coaching, hiring, free agency. We're off 224 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 2: and running either way, though. 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Nathaniel Hackett and Denver, Jim, Tom Sula and 246 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: San Francisco like it. Just Freddie Kitchens in Cleveland, David 247 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: Cully in Houston, You're like, it just doesn't feel right. 248 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. They could give you know, the 249 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: Jets privately always argued, hey, we gave Sala all these years. 250 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: I think if I run a team, the best candidates 251 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: to me are Brian Flores and Robert Sala at the top. 252 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: I know they're defensive guys, but Mike McDonald and Demiko 253 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: Ryans are crushing. You don't have to be an offensive guy. 254 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: If you're a defensive guy, you got to be Young. 255 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: I would say Brian Flores in Minnesota love him. I 256 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: mean again, when you watch that defense, you know it's 257 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: a Flores defense. I would say the second best candidate 258 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: is Sala. Third best candidate Mike McCarthy. I don't want 259 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: to hear it. He wins a lot of games. And 260 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: then I would put a bunch of guys like Chris 261 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: Shula in LA in that third level. WHOA, what about 262 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: Chris Shula? Brandon Staley was under Sean McVay and had 263 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: the number one defense in the league. Everybody that touches 264 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: McVeigh looks brilliant. Raheem Morris got another job and hasn't 265 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: already done very well. You know, you can blame a 266 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: lot of different reasons, but like everybody with McVeigh looks magical, 267 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: you know. So I don't know what to do there. 268 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do there. J Mack with 269 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: the news. 270 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 3: No, no, no, this is the herd Line News. 271 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 5: Let's quickly revisit the Marcus Freeman staying at Notre Dame situation. 272 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 5: Obviously NFL teams wanted him. He did not consider any 273 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 5: of them. None of them are good jobs. 274 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 3: I don't care what. 275 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 5: People say about the Giants, Colin, that's not a great opening. 276 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: Okay, they got a lot of work to do. Freeman's 277 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 3: got a great set up. The quarterback was excellent. He's back. 278 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 3: I know they lose a couple. 279 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 5: Running backs to the draft. Notre Dame will be right 280 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 5: back in the playoff mix next year. As you noted, 281 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 5: the schedule is very favorable. I will maintain that Freeman, 282 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 5: and you know, I have some good Notre Dame connections. 283 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 3: Freeman's not leaving. 284 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: For an NFL job unless it's hardball, like, oh, Justin 285 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 5: Herbert is your quarterback. Yes, I'll consider that. That's when 286 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 5: Freeman will go. These guys don't need to take on 287 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: a rebuild. Freeman's got a lot of kids, and he's 288 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 5: got his family, loves the area. It's going to be 289 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 5: tough to pry him out of South Bend unless it's 290 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 5: a plumb job. 291 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: You know, I hear this from a lot of people. Oh, 292 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: being a college coach these days, you don't have to recruit, 293 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: you just it's transactional. If your Notre Dame, your brand 294 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: gets you about half your class, another fifteen to twenty 295 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: percent you write a check for, and then you got 296 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: another twenty five percent. You go high school games. But 297 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I you start looking at what I follow 298 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: USC recruiting. It's not like Lincoln Riley to a different 299 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: high school every Tuesday or every Friday night. The bottom 300 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: line is these college jobs. Now, that's why Kurt Signetti 301 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: and Kyle Whittingham, the older coaches, well they're older. You're 302 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: not at high school games too, and days a year. 303 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: It's very administrative. It's very Bill Belichick. I don't know 304 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: if it works or not. Bill Belichick would not have 305 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: worked in the college football ten years ago. I would 306 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: never hire a sixty six year old ten years ago. 307 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: Kyle Whittingham, Come on, Michigan recruits. Half of a class 308 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: is based on the brand of Michigan. A quarter of 309 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: the class, You're right, a check for in a quarter 310 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: of the class. You got to go to high school games. 311 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: So I think, Freeman, I think these top college jobs 312 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: are pretty good. 313 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. 314 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 5: You made an interesting point there. The older coaches, you know, 315 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 5: the can you teach an old dog nu tricks? Yeah, 316 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 5: when Nick Saban's been coaching for thirty years and then 317 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 5: gets upended by this nil stuff that suddenly balances things 318 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: out Yeah, it's gonna be a little challenging. He's not 319 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 5: gonna love it. Marcus Freeman's a young guy, Colin. These 320 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 5: young people adapt. My son told me a year ago, Dad, 321 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 5: you need a YouTube base, So I start a YouTube base. 322 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: I don't you think I want to get in the 323 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: weeds with that, but you got to follow the trends. 324 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 5: Marcus Freeman's young, he's adapted well. As you said, Notre 325 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 5: Dame recruits itself. I think, without a doubt he's in 326 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 5: a plumb spot. The only college job my Notre Dame 327 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 5: connections have told me to watch out for if it 328 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 5: comes open is Ohio State. That's the one Freeman would 329 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 5: consider leaving for. Obviously, that's an amazing job. People could 330 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 5: do their homework on that if they want. Next up, Colin, 331 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 5: let's go also to college football. That's how winning him. 332 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 5: Obviously going to Michigan bit of a surprise. He is 333 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 5: sixty six years old, and there's some concern about that, 334 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 5: but you know, he'd been at Utah for thirty two 335 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 5: years with the program, so now he's going to Michigan. 336 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 5: And obviously at Michigan they asked him about one school. 337 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say, I do now, I guess, 338 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: but physicality will be our calling card. 339 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're sure you to have the place I was, 340 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: we were the most physical team in the league. 341 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 3: You know, whichever league we played in, that's not going 342 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 3: to be any different here. 343 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, here's my thing for the people that 344 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: push back. He is sixty six. Let's say he stays 345 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: for four years, and that's kind of how I view it. 346 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 4: You will. 347 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: He is a big ten coach. Even when he was 348 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: at Utah that the number one defense in his era. 349 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: They played Big ten level football. Utah plays a lot 350 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: of cold weather games. I've been to several. He's a 351 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: very good fit. I think. Let's say he stays four 352 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: three years. They went nine games, ten games, nine games. 353 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: That's not bottoming out like right now Michigan's in trouble. 354 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: I say the same with Matt campbellt at Penn State. Oh, 355 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: is he the best candidate. He's a good candidate. So 356 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: and the other thing is, again, he's in four sixty six. 357 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: Not all sixty six year olds. Nick Saban is sixty 358 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: seven or something. In me he's got great energy. So 359 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: I think in today's nil transfer portal World Michigan's got 360 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: great endowment. We've got a lot of lettuce, a lot 361 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: of money. This is the kind of job that I 362 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: think a sixty six year old guy in great shape 363 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: can handle. I think it's a three to a four 364 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: year gig, and I think he serves himself well, very ethical, 365 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: no nonsense. But he's not a nine year coach. That's 366 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: not what it is here. You just all a d 367 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 1: should always keep a short list in their drawer in 368 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: their office. And you know, every year you go out 369 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: and just say how you feeling, how's it going. But 370 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 1: if Utah with Underwood the quarterback for the next two. 371 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 3: Years, that was my question, dude, you're a day yes, yes, 372 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: and so you're. 373 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: Gonna get Wittingham's defense and special teams, which were great 374 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: at Utah. You've already got the magical quarterback, marsh the 375 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver, so Michigan offensively next two years they got 376 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:48,399 Speaker 1: NFL guys. He'll stabilized the defense, the operational functionality of 377 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 1: the team. I think it's a very very B plus, 378 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,959 Speaker 1: solid higher. If Witningham was fifty six, I would consider 379 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 1: it an a higher. It's sixty six. Maybe it's B 380 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: plus because you don't none. None of us have the energy. 381 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 1: Nobody knows the energy at sixty six to fifty. If 382 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: you're the same guy. 383 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 5: Sometimes you like to say, like if you had a 384 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 5: defensive coach and it flops, you go the opposite and 385 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 5: get offensive. Well in this case, Sharon Moore, you know, 386 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 5: he's a kind of a he was in crazy town, 387 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 5: as you like to say stories about him, dming OnlyFans models. 388 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 5: Guy's a mess. You got a class act in winning him. 389 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 5: Who's going to clean up the program? Kind of a 390 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 5: mature individual. 391 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 3: They need that. 392 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 5: I think it's a good hire. I mean it's not 393 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 5: as good. I don't think it's Penn State getting Campbell. 394 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 5: But it's like you said, a B plus final story, Colin, 395 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: let's go to tonight's game, Monday Night Football. Not a 396 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 5: lot of juice here, Rams Falcons. I took the points 397 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 5: at eight and a half, it's down to seven. Rams 398 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 5: obviously cannot win the NFC West, cannot get the number 399 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 5: one seed. 400 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 3: Somebody decided to act. 401 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 5: Max Crosby of the Raiders, who he thinks is the 402 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 5: team to beat for the Lombardi Trophy. 403 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: And here's who he said, the Rams like I could 404 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,880 Speaker 6: see them winning the Super Bowl. I think the combination 405 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 6: of having two legitimate number one receivers Lit Pooka and 406 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 6: having an all Pro slash Pro Bowl running back, having 407 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 6: Sean McVay one of the best offensive mines and football 408 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 6: and coaches in general, and then Matthew Stafford playing at 409 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 6: a level that we didn't even know he can hit 410 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 6: another level and he's doing that. 411 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they should be the favorite if they 412 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: you know tonight, here's the thing to remember about tonight. 413 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: If you don't think the Rams have anything to play for. 414 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: The Rams have two first round picks. You know, their 415 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: first first round pick, it's Atlanta's. The players don't no, no, no, 416 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: no no no, players don't. The coaches do right, They're 417 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: going to be aggressive. They're going to have an aggressive 418 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: game plan. You want to hand Atlanta a loss here 419 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: and Atlanta I think next week plays the pretty hot Saints. 420 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: Atlanta has two more losses and that eleven twelve pick 421 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: becomes an eight. Don't kid yourself, Rams. If they can 422 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: pour it on, they will. They want that Atlanta pick. 423 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: McVeigh does. Because McVay knows you have to an eight pick. 424 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: You can move down to eleven and still get your guy. 425 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: If you have the eleventh or twelfth pick, you're not 426 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: moving down your stand poet. 427 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: Okay, so what. 428 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 5: About the opposite? What about the Falcons? Kirk Cousins is 429 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 5: playing for. Hey, I don't want to be a backup. Look, 430 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 5: I've proven some stuff. Somebody come get me and Brahie 431 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: Morris he's on the hot seat in Atlanta. 432 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 3: I mean they were. 433 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 5: Supposed to be friends playoff team. They've been a disaster. 434 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 5: I want I think the Falcon they need this game. 435 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 5: Morris could be in trouble in Atlanta. They don't have 436 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 5: nearly the talent. They need a lot of things. They're 437 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 5: not beating the Rams. They Drake London sounds like he 438 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 5: is going to play, and we know Jon Robbinson's very good. 439 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: Quick quick sub subplot, Colin. 440 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 5: Is it crazy that like two weeks ago, the Rams 441 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 5: were up thirty to fourteen on Seattle in the fourth 442 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 5: quarter with eight minutes left, they had the number one seed, 443 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 5: they were eight minutes away, up sixteen points, and now 444 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 5: they're going to be like, what's fourteen and three thirteen pick? 445 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 3: She go on the road. 446 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 5: I'm just telling you, I love the Rams, but everybody 447 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 5: loves it Are they definitely beating the Eagles on the road, 448 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 5: definitely if they have to. 449 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 3: Are they definitely winning in Chicago? 450 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: I think they're winning in Chicago unless it's a snowstorm. 451 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: But they run the ball, so they'll be okay. 452 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 5: Yeah. 453 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: Jmack with the news. 454 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 455 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 4: Herd Line News. 456 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. I looked this morning the Rams. We thought they're 457 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: the best team in the league. If they win tonight, 458 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: they could be number one team in the league in 459 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: most eyes. And right now there, I think they're a 460 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: six seed in the NFC. I mean, the NFC West 461 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: arguably has the three best teams any order, Niners, Hawks, Rams, 462 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: it's the Herd. 463 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 4: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays, 464 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 4: and noone East. They're not a Empacific. 465 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: You know, I know I should be more empathetic, but 466 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: I never really have a problem when kickers get released. 467 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, you don't have to tackle, you don't 468 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: have the pass, you don't have to run the football, 469 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: you don't have to get hit. Just make your kicks. 470 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: You screw around at practice, just make your kicks. So 471 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: the Bills release kicker Michael Badsley from the practice squad. 472 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: They missed more extra points than any team, and the 473 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: Eagles blocked more kicks than any team in the league. 474 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: So that's another reason why the Buffalo Bills go for 475 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: it yesterday, Like this isn't a guarantee for us Jalen 476 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: Carter blocking kicks all year and the Eagles a bit 477 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: on the field the entire game. Matt Matt Hasselbeck kind 478 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 1: of agreed with me. I had no problem with it 479 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons. One of them is, Josh 480 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: Allen's the best athlete in the league. You're at home, 481 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: you're favored, Eagles defense is gassed, and that was a 482 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: good play call. You should have hit him. Here was 483 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,360 Speaker 1: Hasselbeck on the decision. 484 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 7: I bet you they thought really good about this play. 485 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 7: The play worked, and you know, Josh Allen, he's got 486 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 7: to be kicking himself. Ninety nine out of a hundred 487 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 7: times he makes that throw, guarantee it. It was kind 488 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 7: of shocking to see him not making now. He's banged up, 489 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 7: he's got a real bad foot injury. He maybe he 490 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 7: can't push off, feels the pressure, bad weather, all the stuff. 491 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 7: But no, I'm in favor of going for that, i'd 492 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 7: and I'd be in favor of calling the exact same 493 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 7: play again in the exact same situation. I'd feel good 494 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 7: about the quarterback making the play. 495 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know I should be nicer to kickers, 496 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: but I can't be the only person that watches games. 497 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: And you know, kickers missed like Pats. And I'm like, guys, 498 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: you're not asked to do much. You gotta make those kicks. 499 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you. I mean, I got guys in 500 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: the league now that drill fifty six yard field goals 501 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: with fifteen yards to spare, So you can't be missing Pat. 502 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: I don't care what the weather is. Get it through. 503 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: College kids can do it. You're a pro. 504 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 6: Do it. 505 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: So I'm sure the guy will get a job somewhere else. 506 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,440 Speaker 1: But the Bills were a circus this year on extra 507 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,640 Speaker 1: points and the Eagles block kick. 508 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:56,199 Speaker 4: So do it. 509 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: For the record, And I've I don't like coaches getting 510 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,120 Speaker 1: fired unless it's a complete mess. You know, I said, 511 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: Nat Hackett, you're an offensive coach. You can't figure the 512 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: clock out. This isn't gonna work. Go be an oc. 513 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: You know these guys always get other jobs. I think 514 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: the Sean McDermott issue. I had the Bills number ten 515 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: in my hurt hierarchy. Did you like that first half 516 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: game plan at home? Can't score until six minutes to 517 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 1: go in the fourth. I'm just kind of over it. 518 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: I don't think Sean's bad if the Miami Dolphins tomorrow. 519 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: Let's say that the Bills losing the playoffs first round 520 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: and the Dolphins hire Sean McDermott. I've always compared him 521 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: to Chuck Knox. You can look it up. Very organized, 522 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: very solid, B plus across the board. Bit conservative, doesn't 523 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,479 Speaker 1: quite have a feel for offense, but a grown up, mature, smart, 524 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: clean it up. I would have no problem with Sean 525 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 1: McDermott getting the Miami Doll's job the Tennessee Titans shop. 526 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: He's a pro. But with Josh Allen, I kind of watch, 527 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of watched Stafford getst McVeigh, and 528 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, Aaron had McCarthy, Uh Purdy's got Shanahan Maholmes 529 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: has read Vo Nicks has Sean Payton. It feels Caleb 530 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: has Ben Johnson. I'm not crazy, right, it feels like 531 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of an advantage over an older defensive coach. 532 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: Mcdermot's not that old. Here's Diana Russini on just the 533 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: Bill's situation at head coach. 534 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 2: You have Josh Allen in his prime and you continue 535 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,719 Speaker 2: to dance, but you don't go to the big one, right, 536 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,880 Speaker 2: And it just seems like the don't have the makeup 537 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 2: that they need to get over this hump and this 538 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: has to be it. And look, this is not to 539 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: be defensive of Buffalo. Well look what Josh is working with, 540 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 2: as you just pointed out. Look at that Philly look 541 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 2: at that roster compared to Buffalo's roster, and yet Josh 542 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 2: Allen is staying in these games and almost winning it. 543 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 544 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 5: I mean, it's. 545 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: This league is interesting. If you go and look at 546 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: the seven playoff teams in the AFC and the seven 547 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: playoff teams in the NFC, the NFC and the AFC 548 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: have sort of flipped. For about a five year period. 549 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: We thought the top of the AFC was dominant. It 550 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: was Baltimore, it was Kansas City, it was Buffalo, and 551 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,440 Speaker 1: then about the sixth team on you're like, well, the NFC, 552 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: they're not Super Bowl teams, but they're good teams. It's flipped. 553 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: I think the three best Super Bowl potential teams are Rams, Seahawks, Niners, 554 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: and I'd keep Philadelphia close, whereas I think the Denver, 555 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: New England, Jacksonville. You can argue Houston. Are they super 556 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: Bowl teams or are they conference championship team. It's Mike 557 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Rabel's on the show tomorrow, I actually think, and it's 558 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,919 Speaker 1: weird that a thirteen and three team is underrated. If 559 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: you go look at New England this year they played Buffalo, 560 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: the team everybody loves, eight quarters six of them. New 561 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: England was better, and if they met again, I'd take 562 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: New England. But what Rabel's done is remarkable because it 563 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: just goes to show how big ownership is. So when 564 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: Rabel took this job, everybody went, oh, this is the circus. 565 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 1: I had Robert Kraft, I had Drake May, and I 566 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: had Josh McDaniel's OC. It's basically the dynasty Patriots, and 567 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: instead of Belichick you have a former Patriot player, high 568 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: IQ guy who share some some, not all, of Belichick's principles. 569 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: He's much more player friendly, he's much more current. I mean, 570 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel is a twenty twenty five coach. Player friendly, 571 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: but demanding, doesn't pander on the show tomorrow. I think 572 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: people now are short selling New England. The most remarkable 573 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: thing about what Vrabel and his guys have done. One 574 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: year ago, we thought New England had the worst receiving 575 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: corps in the league. Then all of a sudden, you 576 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: look at Kyle Williams, Booty Stefan Diggs. Now I look 577 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: at him and I'm like, it's actually a it's actually 578 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: a really good, big play receiving corps. Then they get 579 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: Trayvon Henderson. Okay, now you have a big play running 580 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: back room Hunter, Henry Good, solid B plus tight end. 581 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: So the stuff we looked at last year, it doesn't 582 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: take long in this in this league to correct problems 583 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 1: one year ago, where like they have no speed, they 584 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: have no juice, they have no home run hitters. Now 585 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: I look at their wide receiving corps. There's three different 586 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 1: guys that can beat you down the field. If you 587 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: go to the NFC, Boy, this gets interesting. You know, 588 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: it's funny like, oh, Seattle can't win a Super Bowl 589 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: with Darnold, Oh really, Chicago, Caleb Williams, I don't know. 590 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: I think the top of the NFC is unbelievable. But 591 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: even the Rams, you don't love their special teams, and 592 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: you can beat them on the back end of that defense. 593 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what to do with Philadelphia, and 594 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. Maybe San Francisco with brock Purty is 595 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 1: the most dangerous team in the NFCY. Maybe they are. 596 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: Here's Ben Johnson, Bears coach on brock Purty, first time 597 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: he's faced them as head coach. 598 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 8: He's a dangerous player, particularly when he can see down 599 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 8: down the field and have that much time. 600 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 5: I agree with you. 601 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 8: And then he extended the some of those plays with 602 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 8: his legs too, and he did a really nice shot 603 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 8: and we certainly didn't affect him enough. 604 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought Chicago's defensive game plan felt a little passive. 605 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: Pretty had the most time to throw he's had all 606 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: year in any game, really, the second most time he's 607 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: had to throw in his career. 608 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 3: Really. 609 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,480 Speaker 1: San Francisco's defense got worked, but Sala was mixing stuff 610 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: up and in key spots was super aggressive. I didn't 611 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: see that with Chicago. I didn't love what I saw. 612 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: I kind of felt like brock Purty just kind of 613 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: picked him apart. And Dennis Allen didn't dial up. I mean, 614 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: if he did, it wasn't terribly effective. That's what my 615 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: eyes told me. Sala's doing the most with very little. 616 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: That's why I think he and Brian Floores and Mike 617 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: McCarthy would be at the top of my higher list. 618 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: J Mack, for the record, you're a Jets fan. What 619 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: do you do with a team that's been blown out 620 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: in four straight games? 621 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 5: Well, I've been waiting for you to come back to 622 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 5: me on this, so Colin, I have a list of 623 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 5: coaches in the last fifty years who started out arrably 624 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 5: and managed to turn things around. I do want to 625 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 5: say this is not a defense of Aaron Glenn. Dan Campbell, 626 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: as you noticed, started three thirteen and one two years 627 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 5: later was in the NFC Title Game. I know there's 628 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,719 Speaker 5: some context needed. Jimmy Johnson in Dallas started out one 629 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 5: in fifteen, three years later they had a dynasty. 630 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: Zach Taylor two and fourteen. 631 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 5: I don't like Zach Taylor at all, but two and 632 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 5: fourteen first year, two years later in the Super Bowl. 633 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 5: Bill Walsh two and fourteen hadn't done much prior to 634 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 5: San Francisco two and fourteen. Within two years was in 635 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, had a dynasty, and Chuck Nole way 636 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 5: back in the seventies started out one and thirteen. Four 637 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 5: years later, they started a dynasty. Now, I'm not saying 638 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn as any of those guys. I'm just saying 639 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 5: I don't know that I want to fire him if 640 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 5: I don't have a sure fire name. 641 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 3: Ready, here's no vaybel like he was sitting out there 642 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: for the Patriots. There is no there isn't. 643 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: All right, there you have it, Aaron Glenn will be 644 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: returning to the New York Jets for another sensational season 645 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: of zero interception. That doesn't even make sense. I had 646 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: to triple jack with the staff that I had to 647 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: google that about four times. 648 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: No interceptions all season.