Speaker 1: Hour two, Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred nine point one,
Speaker 1: Shawn on number if you want to be a part.
Speaker 2: Of the program.
Speaker 1: Look, I would argue, and I keep going back to
Speaker 1: the same words I've been using, And you have a
Speaker 1: sweep of an area, then you secure the area that
Speaker 1: you have swept to make sure that nobody can then
Speaker 1: contaminate it if you will or get into that area,
Speaker 1: because it is secure at that point and it remains secure.
Speaker 1: The last part of the equation is the perimeter. And
Speaker 1: I have been in very secure locations. There have been
Speaker 1: other instances. I've been around other heads of state, and
Speaker 1: I can tell you the level of security is far
Speaker 1: greater than that of our own government.
Speaker 2: I'm just giving you the facts.
Speaker 1: Now, this is not in any way impune the great
Speaker 1: work of the guys that were on the ground responding
Speaker 1: to the threat. But I'm saying that the threat needed
Speaker 1: to be avoided. And you can argue, and I've heard
Speaker 1: people arguing, well, there's no way to sweep an entire hotel,
Speaker 1: And my answer tell me why not.
Speaker 2: It has to be done.
Speaker 1: And if you go to this this lunatic with his manifesto,
Speaker 1: he's actually mocking how easy it was for him to
Speaker 1: get these guns in place, and that to me is frustrating.
Speaker 1: I can tell you, you know, for example, when we
Speaker 1: go to the DNC convention or the RNC convention, usually
Speaker 1: there is an outer outer perimeter, and then then you
Speaker 1: go through a checkpoint, and then they check your credentials,
Speaker 1: and then you go through another checkpoint, and that's where
Speaker 1: you get wanded and go through a magnetometer. Then by
Speaker 1: the time you get inside you do it again. And
Speaker 1: so there are multiple layers of multiple checkpoints. I can
Speaker 1: tell you going into the rn C, D and SAY
Speaker 1: conventions in twenty twenty four, I was stopped, had to
Speaker 1: show ID at least three times, sometimes four, and I
Speaker 1: had to you know, take all the stuff out of
Speaker 1: my pockets, get wanded, go through a mag at least twice,
Speaker 1: and I was going through the press entrance. In other words,
Speaker 1: they probably make it a little bit easier. Not sure
Speaker 1: if that should be the case either anyway. Nicole Parker
Speaker 1: is with us, author of the two fbis The Bravery
Speaker 1: and Betrayal I Saw in My time. Also Gary Byrne,
Speaker 1: author of Secrets of the Secret Service, The History and
Speaker 1: uncertain Future of the US Secret Service. I don't mean
Speaker 1: to in any way disparage anybody at the Secret Service.
Speaker 1: I have great respect for the fact that these guys,
Speaker 1: all of.
Speaker 2: Them to a fault.
Speaker 1: The people that I've known and met are all willing
Speaker 1: to take a bullet for the president. But I'm telling
Speaker 1: you there's something institutionally wrong with what we're doing here,
Speaker 1: and if we don't fix it, we're going to have
Speaker 1: a massive catastrophe in this country.
Speaker 2: Anyway, welcome both of you. Nicole.
Speaker 1: First off, I think it's important to delineate this is
Speaker 1: not an FBI problem. The FBI has the FBI Director,
Speaker 1: Cash Vittella, he'll be on TV tonight, has said the
Speaker 1: FBI will offer all the help aid support they can.
Speaker 1: We do have a problem. This comes under the purview
Speaker 1: of the Department of Homeland Security. We have a new Secretary,
Speaker 1: Mark way Mullen. But more importantly, we've also had a
Speaker 1: funding of the Department of Homeland Security issue. The Secret
Speaker 1: Service is part of that funding and they're expected to
Speaker 1: run out of funds this very week, of all weeks,
Speaker 1: and hopefully that will get resolved. So it really isn't
Speaker 1: the purview of the FBI. However, they're going to be
Speaker 1: a big part of the investigative part of this, which
Speaker 1: we already know pretty much everything. I think anyone would
Speaker 1: ever want to know about this guy, right, So, first.
Speaker 3: Of all, I, you know, have such deep respects for
Speaker 3: the Secret Service. I worked with the Secret Service. I
Speaker 3: actually worked in an event with President Trump when I
Speaker 3: was in the FBI, worked closely with the Secret Service,
Speaker 3: and it went off lawlessly. And so I agree with you.
Speaker 3: I heard your word Shaan on Saturday night with alarming
Speaker 3: to think. You know, we went through Butler and then
Speaker 3: obviously the Palm Beach golf incident. Looks it's not impossible
Speaker 3: to sweep an area or a hotel. Would it be difficult, yes,
Speaker 3: impossible No, But I think it comes back to the
Speaker 3: safety and security of the president and his administration in
Speaker 3: the cabinet. It doesn't matter what it is, it's got
Speaker 3: to be safe and secure the ballroom. It just continues
Speaker 3: to give justification they need the funding for or they're
Speaker 3: not even asking for funding for this. We just need
Speaker 3: the support of this so we.
Speaker 1: Won't cost the taxpayers a dime, not a penny exactly.
Speaker 3: And so I don't understand what the issue is there.
Speaker 3: But going back to what happened on Saturday. I found
Speaker 3: it quite alarming, obviously. But on a similar note, my
Speaker 3: sister recently went to the Easter egg hunt at the
Speaker 3: White House on the White House Salon. In the first
Speaker 3: comment she said to me when she got back to Austin,
Speaker 3: Texas was wow. I was surprised that I was never
Speaker 3: asked for my identification. I didn't have to provide it
Speaker 3: before I went. She was absolutely flabergases. She went through
Speaker 3: a magnutometer when they got on site, but that was
Speaker 3: pretty much it. But I do appreciate and respect that
Speaker 3: this is a constantly evolving situation and they are going
Speaker 3: to improve things. And I have no doubt that in
Speaker 3: these meetings they're going to continue to improve things. I
Speaker 3: obviously was not in the Secret a Service, but having
Speaker 3: worked with them and talked to Secret Service agents, we're
Speaker 3: in a different environment now. It is a different threat
Speaker 3: and we've got to step up the game across the
Speaker 3: federal government and the FBI to Secret Service VHS because
Speaker 3: we've got elevated threat levels that we have never seen before.
Speaker 3: But yet some of our systems are quite antiquated, and
Speaker 3: our protective models are sometimes antiquated. And to step it
Speaker 3: up to meet the demands and use the technology that
Speaker 3: we have at our fingertips. Now, I think that's something
Speaker 3: that they will absolutely be looking at. The protective model.
Speaker 3: I think even the FBI is going to be looking
Speaker 3: at things, things with AI, things that we can do
Speaker 3: on researching and getting things up to speed so that
Speaker 3: we can be ready and prepared and not have something
Speaker 3: like this ever occur again. But Sean, you and I
Speaker 3: know these people are evil, They have no moral conscience,
Speaker 3: and this will continue to happen evil if not going away.
Speaker 3: We just have to be on a game to stop
Speaker 3: it and to protect Americans and particularly to protect the
Speaker 3: President of the United States. But again, this is not
Speaker 3: just a secret service problem. This is a law enforcement
Speaker 3: problem across the board.
Speaker 1: Let me go to you, Gary, and let me go
Speaker 1: back to the three examples we have, and I believe
Speaker 1: there's one common theme. If you look at Butler, there's
Speaker 1: no justification for somebody getting within one hundred and thirty yards,
Speaker 1: getting on a ladder, getting on top of a roof,
Speaker 1: setting up and taking a shot at Donald Trump. That
Speaker 1: tells me that the area was not secure, it wasn't
Speaker 1: swept properly, and the proper perimeter was not set up
Speaker 1: because you can, a good shot could hit a target
Speaker 1: from fifteen hundred yards away, never mind one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty yards away. So then you look at Trump International,
Speaker 1: I mean the holes where the president was coming up
Speaker 1: to and if it wasn't for one sharp eyed Secret
Speaker 1: Service agent that just happened to catch a glimpse of
Speaker 1: somebody in the trees, those treed areas are known for
Speaker 1: where paparazzi stalk Donald Trump and have stalked him for
Speaker 1: years to get video or pictures. It was never swept,
Speaker 1: never mind secured, and never mind the perimeter set around.
Speaker 1: Once it's secured, nobody should be able to go up
Speaker 1: or down that street without being watched the entire time.
Speaker 1: In this case, too, the perimeter was set up way
Speaker 1: too close to the event. They never swept the entire hotel.
Speaker 1: They didn't secure the area in the hotel. The idea
Speaker 1: that you have people that would be able to get
Speaker 1: a room in the hotel and walk down with a
Speaker 1: gun and then you know, walk right up to the
Speaker 1: perimeter fifty yards away from the room where many people
Speaker 1: could have been slaughtered, is insane to me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, Sean. And like I
Speaker 4: said before, it's one of the reasons I wrote secrets
Speaker 4: to the Secret Service. What happened on Saturday and night
Speaker 4: there should have been and I've been, I've been to
Speaker 4: the Indian you know, inside the Secret Service, we refer
Speaker 4: to it as the Ankley Hotel because that's where Reagan
Speaker 4: was almost assassinated. And so the hotel actually built an
Speaker 4: underground garage so you can bring the president. And then
Speaker 4: after the Reagan attempted assassination, the hotel always cooperates with you.
Speaker 4: When I used to go there and do these events,
Speaker 4: different events, every the whatever floor we were on, there
Speaker 4: was an agent and an officer in every stairwell, at
Speaker 4: the top and the bottom of every stairwell. And they
Speaker 4: clearly dropped the ball. And if you also looked at
Speaker 4: the video where the agents standing there just before the
Speaker 4: man charges, typically there be four or five metal detectors.
Speaker 4: Why there wasn't, I don't know. But and after you
Speaker 4: put up those four or five metal detectors across, you
Speaker 4: take those big boxes that they come in, then you
Speaker 4: use them as a barrier. They had nothing to stop
Speaker 4: anybody from charging. They didn't try to stop anybody from
Speaker 4: charging until he ran past. And we also still don't
Speaker 4: know what the ballistics are the UD officer that got
Speaker 4: hit in the vest, who fired that round.
Speaker 2: We don't know.
Speaker 1: I did have one person wonder outline out in the
Speaker 1: Secret Service privately to me. They were wondering if it
Speaker 1: might be friendly fired. That would be scary. We don't
Speaker 1: know if this guy fired that shot. We haven't got
Speaker 1: That's the one question we haven't gotten an answer to.
Speaker 1: All right, quick break right back, more with Nicole Parker
Speaker 1: and Gary Byrne on the other side than your calls
Speaker 1: this Monday or next eight hundred and ninety four one
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Speaker 1: of the program.
Speaker 2: Right, we continue with Nicole Parker.
Speaker 1: And Gary Byrne examining you know yet what is obviously
Speaker 1: another failure in terms of the lead up.
Speaker 5: I mean, the.
Speaker 2: Agents in the moment are phenomenal, but in terms of the.
Speaker 1: Lead up to now the third assassination attempt against President Trump,
Speaker 1: that things have to change, and they can't change fast enough.
Speaker 2: Let me give you a comparison.
Speaker 1: It was a couple of trips ago when the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister of Israel happened to be visiting Donald Trump. I
Speaker 1: ended up spending two hours with the Prime Minister and
Speaker 1: I interviewed him and I just spent a lot of time. Now,
Speaker 1: before you could even get your car into the hotel
Speaker 1: area parking lot, there had to be eighty agents that
Speaker 1: you had to go through, and the entire perimeter of
Speaker 1: the hotel on the outside was covered. The entire thing.
Speaker 1: It was an exhaustive search. Open your hood, open your trunk,
Speaker 1: get out of the car. They swept me there, they
Speaker 1: used they wanted me. I had to go through a
Speaker 1: mag and then I get inside the hotel and I'm
Speaker 1: actually met by a representative of the Prime Minister. I
Speaker 1: go through the same process again, another mag and then
Speaker 1: I get to the elevator and I'm stopped by agents
Speaker 1: at this particular elevator that was in the main lobby.
Speaker 1: Then I get up to a floor, not the floor.
Speaker 1: I get up to a floor. Then there's all these
Speaker 1: guys with I would imagine Oozzi's but machine guns, you know,
Speaker 1: airing at me. And then I have to check in
Speaker 1: and hand over my phone. And then I am escorted
Speaker 1: by armed people into a stairwell that is packed with
Speaker 1: guys with Uzzi's at them up to a suite where
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister happened to be multiple, multiple multiple layers.
Speaker 1: That didn't happen here, that didn't happen at Trump International,
Speaker 1: and it didn't happen in Butler, and then not securing
Speaker 1: a large enough perimeter. Now, when I met Musharaff years
Speaker 1: ago in a New York hotel, he was here for
Speaker 1: the United Nations to interview him. When I when I
Speaker 1: interviewed General l Ceci of Egypt, the Saint, the amount
Speaker 1: of security and a number of guns in my face,
Speaker 1: it's breathtaking, and that's not happening here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what you're discussing is the security they do
Speaker 4: for certain foreign dignitaries, and the problem is is they're
Speaker 4: not doing it for our own president. And it comes
Speaker 4: back to what I've talked about before. They treat their
Speaker 4: employees like crap. They leave. They have this massive hiring
Speaker 4: they're showing. They're given bonuses to join the Uniform Division
Speaker 4: that are worth three times my starting salary in nineteen
Speaker 4: ninety one, just a bonus to get them to come
Speaker 4: on to the job. They have destroyed the morale of
Speaker 4: the Secret Service, and they don't do anything to fix it. Now,
Speaker 4: I'm not bashing the new director. He got handed a
Speaker 4: crap sandwich and he's trying to figure out how to
Speaker 4: eat it. But there's so many things that need to
Speaker 4: be fixed inside that agency, and one of them is
Speaker 4: is that they're so over worked. They're exhausted. And every
Speaker 4: time I say that to somebody who should listen, like
Speaker 4: a politician or something, they rolled the rives at me
Speaker 4: because they've never worked a job. Now, Nicole understands this.
Speaker 4: Twelve fourteen hours a day, the next day, twenty hours
Speaker 4: a day. The next day is supposed to be off
Speaker 4: three o'clock in the morning, the phone rangks you're back
Speaker 4: at work at the end of the day out. You
Speaker 4: can't work people to death, and they do well.
Speaker 2: And that's another problem.
Speaker 1: And the FBI has the same problem, Nicole, and that
Speaker 1: is they have a shortage. Just like you know the FAA,
Speaker 1: they all have you know, one thy fifteen hundred agents down.
Speaker 1: They will hand it to Adam Schiff Sandwich by the
Speaker 1: by the Biden administration.
Speaker 3: That's exactly right. And I'd like to echo that because
Speaker 3: again speaking to secret Service agents, their hours are longer
Speaker 3: than FBI. Okay, working violent crime in the FBI. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I worked the longest hours of anyone in the FBI
Speaker 3: because we were pretty much working twenty four to seven
Speaker 3: because crime never stops in Miami. But the Secret Service
Speaker 3: agents are expected to be on point zero fail mission
Speaker 3: around the clock, working these extensively long shifts. Sean, they're spread,
Speaker 3: then they're tired. It destroys many of their families lives.
Speaker 3: They don't get to see their children. They're on airplanes,
Speaker 3: they're going all around the world. They're standing at point
Speaker 3: you can never ever make a mistake. And so again
Speaker 3: I agree that they have really destroyed morale writ the
Speaker 3: Secret Service, based on my understanding, and people are exhausted,
Speaker 3: and they've just been spread way too thin. And I
Speaker 3: cannot have this conversation without saying the DEI hires not
Speaker 3: just at the Secret Service, but at the FBI and
Speaker 3: all of the law enforcement agencies that have come into
Speaker 3: these departments starting with Obama era, have been catastrophic. Okay,
Speaker 3: And I, as a woman, will proudly tell you I
Speaker 3: was qualified to get my job. But when you put
Speaker 3: people who are not qualified, you're allowing them to get
Speaker 3: through programs, get through firearms, get through things, that they
Speaker 3: are not eligible to even get passed the physical fitness
Speaker 3: failure rate at the FBI. I hear about this all
Speaker 3: of the time. They can't even pass what we call
Speaker 3: the PFT shank. Yeah, a very basic physical fitness test.
Speaker 3: If you're not hiring the brightest and the best, there's
Speaker 3: going to be problems. But yet they feel this pressure.
Speaker 3: We've got to increase the hiring because we are so
Speaker 3: spread thin.
Speaker 1: Well, I got to tell you, we'll get into this
Speaker 1: more as time goes on. And I know you're joining
Speaker 1: us on TV today, but this, this is preventable. And
Speaker 1: if three instances now don't wake us up, I don't
Speaker 1: know what will wake us up. Appreciate both of you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us. Noicle Parker and
Speaker 1: Gary Byrne eight hundred and nine four one show is
Speaker 1: on number. If you want to be a part of
Speaker 1: the program, we'll get to your calls coming up here
Speaker 1: in mere moments. All right, let me play President Trump
Speaker 1: from Saturday Night, responding to questions. You know, I guess
Speaker 1: what can be going through your mind when something like
Speaker 1: this happens now for a third time, Here's what he
Speaker 1: said in that moment.
Speaker 2: When you realize there was a threat in service agent.
Speaker 6: We're telling us to get down.
Speaker 7: Can you describe what was going through your mind, how
Speaker 7: you were feeling in that moment.
Speaker 8: It's very good question. Actually, it was always shocking when
Speaker 8: something like this happens. Happened to me a little bit,
Speaker 8: and that never changes the fact we're sitting right next
Speaker 8: to each other. First, Lady, am I right? And I
Speaker 8: heard a noise and sort of thought it was a trey.
Speaker 8: I thought it was a tray going down. I've heard
Speaker 8: that many times, and it was pretty loud noise, and
Speaker 8: it was from quite far away. He hadn't reached the
Speaker 8: area at all. They really got him, but so it
Speaker 8: was quite far away. But it was a gun, and
Speaker 8: some people really understood that pretty quickly. Other people didn't.
Speaker 8: I was watching to see what was happening. Probably should
Speaker 8: have gotten down even faster.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm just going to add this too,
Speaker 1: because Caroline Levitt at our press conference today calling out
Speaker 1: Democrats by name and the rhetoric they had leading into
Speaker 1: Saturday's attempt on President Trump's life. Nick sort of put
Speaker 1: this up on his ex account. Good for a Nick,
Speaker 1: Let's play that.
Speaker 9: The entire Democrat Party has made their hitch to voters
Speaker 9: across the country that Donald Trump poses an existential threat
Speaker 9: to democracy, that he is a fat and that they
Speaker 9: compare him to Hitler. I mean, these are despicable statements
Speaker 9: that the American people have been consuming for years, and
Speaker 9: so many mentally perturbed individuals are led to believe these
Speaker 9: words are truth and then are inspired to act on it.
Speaker 9: I have a whole host of examples that we can
Speaker 9: share with you after it is pages and pages of
Speaker 9: major Democrat Party elected officials saying such as Reprakeem Jeffrey
Speaker 9: Is just this April this month said we are in
Speaker 9: an era of maximum warfare everywhere all the time. Governor
Speaker 9: Josh Shapiro said heads need to roll within the administration.
Speaker 9: A Senator Alex Paedia said people are quote dying because
Speaker 9: of fear and terror caused by the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: Governor J. B.
Speaker 9: Pritzker, never before in my life have I called for
Speaker 9: mass protest disruptions. These Republicans cannot know a moment of peace.
Speaker 9: These are Democrat elected officials calling for war against the
Speaker 9: President of the United States and his supporters. I could
Speaker 9: go on and on, but again, when you have people
Speaker 9: in positions of power that are saying things like this
Speaker 9: every single day for years. You are inspiring violence by
Speaker 9: people who are already mentally ill. And that's what we've
Speaker 9: seen against this president for far too long.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to our busy phones. Eight hundred
Speaker 1: and nine four one, Sewan. If you want to be
Speaker 1: a part of the program. Uh, let us say hi
Speaker 1: to John and Oklahoma. John, Hi, how are you glad
Speaker 1: you called.
Speaker 10: Sean and doing great? Longtime listener watch the show every night,
Speaker 10: multi time color and I want to thank you for
Speaker 10: your service to this country.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you, my friend. I appreciate it. What's going on?
Speaker 10: Yeah, so I'm very disturbed. Obviously we don't have much
Speaker 10: talk about from the weekend, but you know, in light
Speaker 10: of the third attempt on President Trump, you know, the
Speaker 10: Democrats have been have been stoking this violence to local violence,
Speaker 10: blood in the streets. And I'm gonna be honest, I'm
Speaker 10: with lynd on this. I don't think you should have
Speaker 10: this piker dude on your podcast. There was some right
Speaker 10: rem extremists that you uh that you know, you might
Speaker 10: want to interview people will go banana.
Speaker 1: So well, I want to stay on the line and
Speaker 1: I want you to say hi to Kathleen and Nevada. Kathleen,
Speaker 1: you're on with John and Oklahoma. You're calling about the
Speaker 1: same issue, and uh, I've actually thought about it, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you what I've concluded on the
Speaker 1: other end of this. Kathleen, you take a different spot
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 7: Well, I am a Democrat and I listened to your
Speaker 7: show back in the day, decades ago. I was a
Speaker 7: caller on Rush, you know, back back in those days.
Speaker 7: Because we need to talk to each other. This is
Speaker 7: the problem. You are talking to your choir. My people
Speaker 7: are talking to their choir. We don't talk enough and
Speaker 7: listen to each other. We need to take down the
Speaker 7: bitterall And let me tell you stop blaming quote the Democrats.
Speaker 7: It's on both side. Is on both sides, and we
Speaker 7: as Americans need to Can.
Speaker 1: I challenge that, Kathleen, Give me an example of Republicans
Speaker 1: calling Democrats Nazis, gestapo fascist, racist, misogynist, homophobes, xenophobe, islamophobe,
Speaker 1: Republicans want dirty air and water, Republicans want grandma and
Speaker 1: grandpa to die. Give me examples of Republicans saying that stuff.
Speaker 7: Okay, So when you say the Republicans, you are treating
Speaker 7: them as a united front. Your party is fractured, all right.
Speaker 1: Give me the names of people that are saying this stuff.
Speaker 1: And there are people that identify as conservative that I
Speaker 1: think are jackasses that say the dumbest stuff I've ever heard.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and so I'm a private person. I'm not talking
Speaker 6: about the Politicans here. I'm talking about me when I
Speaker 6: sit me down at Thanksgiving. And I have my family
Speaker 6: that both for Trump, and I still love my family
Speaker 6: because we are Americans.
Speaker 7: First. Okay, this is going down to person to person
Speaker 7: that it is happening. I have Republican friends that don't
Speaker 7: want to deal with me because I'm a quote Democrat.
Speaker 7: I'm not like that, and so I try very very hard.
Speaker 7: Shot is person to person as we go about our
Speaker 7: daily lives.
Speaker 2: You see.
Speaker 1: But you just got done telling me that this is
Speaker 1: both sides. And I'm asking you to give me the examples,
Speaker 1: and you can't give me one, because I can give
Speaker 1: you one. What about Nick Fuentes and people consider him
Speaker 1: to be right. I don't consider that that idiot to
Speaker 1: be right.
Speaker 7: Nope.
Speaker 1: I mean the guy's just the nut and he's been
Speaker 1: platformed too much now as it relates to Hassan Piker.
Speaker 1: You know, America deserved nine to eleven. I'm saying it
Speaker 1: the harmas attacks and sexual advice. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: rape happened on October seventh, That doesn't change the dynamic
Speaker 1: for me. AMAS, the terror organization is a thousand times
Speaker 1: better than the fascist, settler colonial apartheid state.
Speaker 2: You want me to keep going. No, now, listen, so
Speaker 2: I mean at the end of the day.
Speaker 7: But listen, listen, listen. You have a platform that people
Speaker 7: listen to you. And I'm telling you as a quote
Speaker 7: a Democrat, our party has been taken over. My party
Speaker 7: of the Democrats is not the party that are doing.
Speaker 7: Why am I still ready to a Democrat? Because I'm
Speaker 7: doing everything I can in every flipping primary to get
Speaker 7: a certain faction out. Okay, our party has been taken
Speaker 7: over by a certain group. Back in the day, you'd
Speaker 7: probably call me a blue dog Democrat. Back in the day,
Speaker 7: you would have your side and my side go meet
Speaker 7: at a bar. You know, the Congressman would go meet
Speaker 7: at a bar and they'd work out a deal. We
Speaker 7: are so fractured now because of this literal that yes
Speaker 7: it is and I'm telling you it's from both sides,
Speaker 7: but it's now.
Speaker 1: You're telling me it's from both sides. But you can't
Speaker 1: give me an example. And this is what was so
Speaker 1: powerful of what Caroline Levitt did today.
Speaker 7: The president, I will tell you, the things that our
Speaker 7: president has said is not very presidential.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you don't, like, give me an example of
Speaker 1: him calling Democrats you know, Nazis Gestapo.
Speaker 7: Come on, we can go back.
Speaker 2: I'm asking. I mean, you can't give me one.
Speaker 7: No, I can't, but I don't have it up in
Speaker 7: front of me. But you know, we can come on.
Speaker 7: It's both sides. And if you're not willing to admit
Speaker 7: the truth that it is from both sides, then how.
Speaker 1: Can we Kathleen, I'm disagreeing with the premise.
Speaker 2: John, you can help me out here.
Speaker 1: I'm disagreeing with the premise that the rhetoric matches what
Speaker 1: the Democrats are doing.
Speaker 2: I disagree with it.
Speaker 1: I think that there is Yeah, of course, there are
Speaker 1: some idiots that claim to be conservative that I don't
Speaker 1: even consider to be conservative, And they like to dominate
Speaker 1: headlines because they like to get clicks, and they like
Speaker 1: to hit algorithms, and they think that's the way to
Speaker 1: make money. And the more extreme you are, the greater
Speaker 1: the conspiracy that you tell, the more attention I guess
Speaker 1: these people gets. I choose not to do that myself.
Speaker 1: I mean, Kathleen, you're on this program and we are
Speaker 1: giving you plenty of time to give your opinion and
Speaker 1: hear you out, and John will give you the last word.
Speaker 3: One wean.
Speaker 10: I want to thank you for calling in because I
Speaker 10: take a certain level courage. I don't think I would
Speaker 10: even call into any main primary Democrats, you know, strategists,
Speaker 10: but you know, the minute Trump came down the escalator,
Speaker 10: you know, the TDS syndrome you know started and to
Speaker 10: Shawn's point, has a NonStop three assassination stempts and two
Speaker 10: uh pony impeachments, two hundred and forty phony phony indictments.
Speaker 10: They have to stop. Kathleen, you were you're a Clinton,
Speaker 10: Bill Clinton Democrat. He crossed the aisle with Newt Gingridge
Speaker 10: and passed you know, the biggest balanced budget, uh ever
Speaker 10: since and the balance the budget hasn't been balanced since then.
Speaker 10: So I want to give you. You are a Democrat,
Speaker 10: You're a classic Democrat, but you're not what the party
Speaker 10: is today, you're not the Hassan Piker Democrat Party that
Speaker 10: there's got to be blood in the streets. And you know,
Speaker 10: Hakim Jefferies, we got to take take it to people,
Speaker 10: punch him in the mouth. All that has to stop.
Speaker 10: And the Republicans have been trying to put the flames
Speaker 10: out for a long time. Yeah, maybe Trump puts out
Speaker 10: you know, I mean tweet every now and then, but
Speaker 10: that's just to get you know, the Democrats fired up.
Speaker 10: That's not what he's all about. You know when when
Speaker 10: people chat with him in person, he's very compassionate, very loving.
Speaker 10: People need to understand that we need to move forward
Speaker 10: as a country.
Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate you both. Kathleen, thank you, John,
Speaker 1: thank you. Quick break right back.
Speaker 2: More of your phone calls coming up.
Speaker 1: Eight hundred and ninety four one, Sean, if you want
Speaker 1: to be a part of the program this Monday.
Speaker 2: As we continue right back to.
Speaker 1: Our busy phones this Monday, staying on the same topic,
Speaker 1: Dan in Missouri, we'll let you win you in, sir,
Speaker 1: how are you.
Speaker 5: Hey, Son, I'm doing fine.
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 2: I'm good? Glad you call well.
Speaker 5: I I'm thinking John is right if he's on the
Speaker 5: show now or if he just got off. I don't
Speaker 5: know who what I'm speaking about. But when I heard
Speaker 5: you on Friday about Nick Flentis, I heard that clown
Speaker 5: talking like he does. And everything you say makes sense,
Speaker 5: But I think what I would.
Speaker 4: Like to know.
Speaker 5: I mean, you may have a.
Speaker 2: Well I figured out another way to do it, and
Speaker 2: what I'll do.
Speaker 5: Is good because you're like our hero, and we don't
Speaker 5: like to see our hero giving a platform to satan.
Speaker 1: You know, there's really nothing to talk to the guy about.
Speaker 1: But I can take all of the incendiary comments that
Speaker 1: he's made and I can make people aware of it,
Speaker 1: and I can make people aware of all the Democrats
Speaker 1: that seek his support, like Bernie Sanders, AOC and a
Speaker 1: bunch of squad members, and they want to be associated
Speaker 1: with this guy. So I can do that and I
Speaker 1: will do that, and I just think there's a different
Speaker 1: way to do it. In light of this, there's nothing
Speaker 1: to argue with them about. And then we have another
Speaker 1: problem too, And the other problem is most of what
Speaker 1: we talk about, how do you reconcile secure borders and
Speaker 1: open borders, how do you reconcile sanctuary cities and states
Speaker 1: and law and order. How do you reconcile law and order,
Speaker 1: safety security with defundismantal NOBEI laws.
Speaker 2: There's no middle ground to me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't win wars by being polite, and if
Speaker 5: you want to win those wars like World War two,
Speaker 5: you have to be uglier than the enemy. And that's
Speaker 5: why you gotta take the gloves off. Don't tie one
Speaker 5: hand behind your back. I mean, shut him down, turn
Speaker 5: them off, block it, boycott, cancel, exposed the evil, and
Speaker 5: fight as dirty as hard as they are to you.
Speaker 5: Because they're winning a lot of these wars just off
Speaker 5: of meanness. And we had the rhinos in there, like
Speaker 5: Ryan and Lindsey and Mitt and Liz and Susan Collins.
Speaker 5: You know, they're trying to go along to get along,
Speaker 5: and it's not working real well. And we're very lucky
Speaker 5: to have Trump. He is a fighter and he just
Speaker 5: doesn't care what people say about him.
Speaker 1: There's very few people that wouldn't be shaken up. I
Speaker 1: can tell you minutes of him getting into the whole room.
Speaker 1: As I said at the beginning of the show, I
Speaker 1: had texted him and he called me right back, and
Speaker 1: I got to hear the deliberations and hear this man
Speaker 1: arguing with everybody in the room that he wanted to
Speaker 1: go back out, and then he asked me what I thought,
Speaker 1: and I gave my very strong opinion. And at this moment,
Speaker 1: we have no idea. If it's a lone wolf, we
Speaker 1: don't know. If it's a grand conspiracy, there's no way
Speaker 1: you can get back in that room. You can't get
Speaker 1: back to the White House. If you want to speak
Speaker 1: from there, you can reschedule in thirty days, which is
Speaker 1: what he did. But I give him credit. A lot
Speaker 1: of people and want to go put anywhere near that
Speaker 1: room after what happened. Anyway, I appreciate the call, my friend.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: Good Call eight hundred and ninety four one, Shawn if
Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program.