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Speaker 1: I'm Lily, I'm Steven oh oh, wearing Dumbo in downtown studio,

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Speaker 1: ready to talking about him. Not the book that we

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Speaker 1: today and then I took a uber to the studio. Um, okay,

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Speaker 1: and here's what I'm gonna say, And we can cut

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Speaker 1: this part out and people think it's missangynous, but I's

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Speaker 1: I do think women can drive, and I think that

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Speaker 1: not as defensive drivers. They're just like not a really

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about straight women when I say this. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in other cities, though, I think women are better drivers

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Speaker 1: a walking city, one of the few. As I said before,

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Speaker 1: it's a city for flanners. Speaking of flanners, today we

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Speaker 1: New York City. Were, of course, are talking about none

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Speaker 1: of them, Ramona Singer and her book Life on the

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Speaker 1: Roma Coaster Genius title. So we have been really just

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Speaker 1: circling the housewives and staying away. Well, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that typically on the show, we have avoided the more

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of housewife coverage, housewife culture out there

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Speaker 1: not her drinking Pino Griggio. But she launched a Griggio

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Speaker 1: So Mario Mario's line of jewelry is called like true Faith,

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Speaker 1: season eight or nine, where like Ramona's launching this other

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Speaker 1: Like if you try to find its, like on Amazon anywhere,

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Speaker 1: you cannot buy Ageless. And like sometimes on the show,

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Speaker 1: It was a very well worded she was. And it's

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Speaker 1: like six pages long, and it's just been like, Daddy,

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Speaker 1: how could you cheat on mommy? Like remember when we

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Speaker 1: went to the met Like I thought you loved us well?

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Speaker 1: And the whole letter is like this crazy like her

425
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Speaker 1: trying to check her dad's privy. She was like, Daddy,

426
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Speaker 1: remember when we like went to Africa. Some kids don't

427
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Speaker 1: have shoes? How could you fuck someone else? But it's

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Speaker 1: like I don't know if these two are conneck? Did

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Speaker 1: hear that oneself? Random? I bore it just and will

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432
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433
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434
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Speaker 1: like yeah, then you're forced to grow up too fast,

435
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438
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Speaker 1: on the housewives in this book, but I will say

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Speaker 1: like most of it is about like it's a better

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Speaker 1: marriage Tomorrio and and Sene and wholesale who wait, okay,

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Speaker 1: this is also just quickly this is goes back to

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Speaker 1: her the way she describes interiors. She's talking about selling

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Speaker 1: on It's ten PM. I'm perched at a high form

483
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Speaker 1: of countertop. I feel like I'm sitting at a bar,

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Speaker 1: except there are no cocktails, no glass of pino griggio. Instead,

485
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,920
Speaker 1: there are cameras all around me. It's just like this

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Speaker 1: intro to being on HSN, being like I'm at a

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Speaker 1: formica tabletop. Like that is like as much anytime she

488
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Speaker 1: just walks into a room, She's just like noticing countertop

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Speaker 1: countertops ranges. I mean, just like us. Okay, so again,

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Speaker 1: more manufacturers stuff. I would get thirty day terms from

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Speaker 1: the manufacturers and with ten day terms from my buyer.

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Speaker 1: I always had a float of twenty days of money.

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Speaker 1: These are typically unheard of in terms of any business.

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Speaker 1: Actually had the opposite problem for most businesses. I had

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Speaker 1: excess cash in my account at all times. She's like,

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Speaker 1: I mean go off. I was like, Okay, maybe I

497
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Speaker 1: want to be in this liquidator. Well I'm always like mean,

498
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Speaker 1: like I want to open a thrift store. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you're not going to get the kind of Mars

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Speaker 1: with liquidation. But I also love TJX. But that is

501
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Speaker 1: really more about like calling you also not a co factory.

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Speaker 1: You also need like a huge You need some seed

503
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Speaker 1: money up front, because like her dad gave her seventy

504
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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars to start her wholesale liquidation business, and

505
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Speaker 1: because she was like she had met this other guy

506
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Speaker 1: who was like, oh, you're going to need money just

507
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Speaker 1: to like make your first big order, and like, I'll

508
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Speaker 1: go into business with You'll be your partner. And she

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Speaker 1: calls her dad, who she has this historically abusive relationship with,

510
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Speaker 1: and the dad is like, Ramona, you never need a

511
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Speaker 1: partner in business. You need to be able to do

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Speaker 1: everything you're else self so that you own the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I'll give you the money, and he did, and then

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Speaker 1: he charged her interest, but she paid him back within

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Speaker 1: thirty days. And you know that was I think an

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Speaker 1: important lesson for any of us who are striving to

517
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Speaker 1: get into business. Be extremely wary about taking on partners, Yes,

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Speaker 1: because there's a real temptation to it the beginning to

519
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Speaker 1: take on up unless it's like a creative partner in

520
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Speaker 1: the business. But taking on a non creative partner is

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Speaker 1: often someone who's going to take advantage of you, and

522
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Speaker 1: you probably don't need it, and you can probably figure

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Speaker 1: out how to do it on yours. So taken note

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Speaker 1: of Ramona's book call The Abuse of Father and yeah,

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00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: got that money. Yeah, that's seventy five k okay. Another

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Speaker 1: just example of Francine detail. She's talking about her val

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Speaker 1: reneul with Mario that happens a couple of years. She

528
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Speaker 1: mentions the val renuls so much like she's always it's

529
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: always be like in the book, she'll be writing about

530
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Speaker 1: how he's cheating on her, but then she'll kind of

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Speaker 1: go back to another point in time. She's like, so,

532
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Mario and I were getting ready for our vournuls and

533
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: we're like, bitch, when is the right now renewal happening.

534
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Speaker 1: My newly short blunt hair has been trimmed and blown

535
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Speaker 1: out by my hairstylist, Oscar Blandy, and I slip into

536
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: my gorgeous Kimberly Towers wedding dress. It's a stunning strapless

537
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Speaker 1: gown made of every duchess silk satin, with the roost

538
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: form fitting bodice and whimsical ostrich feathers and crystals on

539
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: the bottom skirt. This insane figure skater outfit that's so

540
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Speaker 1: wholesale resale. She Kimberly Towers like him, like these designers

541
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Speaker 1: that have like side stores, like she's always mentioned designers

542
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: like we should know who, which, okay, is exactly how

543
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: I feel about, like Jovanni the infinmence derrendous story. Yes,

544
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: it's also how I feel about when I watched says

545
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: the dress or and she talks about like her wedding

546
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: dress designer and this like and you're like, who was

547
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Speaker 1: like Paolo Verdes Giovanna, like just being like, oh well,

548
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Speaker 1: of course I had like the Kimberly Tavanna dress and

549
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: we all had to get it. Um. Another thing I

550
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: want to talk about is how this is before Mario

551
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 1: and her get really on the rocks and they go

552
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: to our place where we fell in love, the island

553
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: if Auilla Anguilla. Yeah, and she's like, she's being so okay,

554
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: this sorry to bring you much to Eli told her

555
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: this is another reason to have siblings. She's like, Avery

556
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Speaker 1: had like a school friend, also an Anguilla, So it

557
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: gave us time for me and Mario to make love

558
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Speaker 1: on our like in our jacuzzi every single day of

559
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Speaker 1: that vacation. Yeah. So she she got the friend, like

560
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 1: they invited the friend or whatever, and you guys have

561
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Speaker 1: to do the But it's like, yeah, if if you

562
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Speaker 1: just have two kids, you don't always need to be

563
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Speaker 1: finding a friend to distract your child so that you

564
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: can fuck so you can make like the kid needs

565
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: another kid to entertain it, because like kids need constant

566
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: like stimulation all the time. I mean, I gotta give

567
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: it to her. I guess I was like, because Mario

568
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: was about to be like sixty, and they were like, no,

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Speaker 1: I mean her whole thing. I mean Angels by Remoter.

570
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: She's ageless, she's still fun, she's spunky and on the show,

571
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: she's always like flirting with guys at the Topping Roads

572
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: in Southampton. Okay, so what happens is, so this is

573
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: all sort of common knowledge and the tabloids that played

574
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 1: it out on the show that are a dub. But

575
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 1: basically Mario, her husband of twenty two years, does her partner,

576
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: her partner start owner of True Faith Jewelry, True Crip Jewelry,

577
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: starts cheating on her, and at first she ignores the

578
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: signs and she's like, he's distant. A friend told me,

579
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: like he's taking phone calls and he like takes this call.

580
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: When there's one point where he like she asks him

581
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: point blank and he's like, no, that was my friend,

582
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: like Alan, right, and she's just like he said no,

583
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: and I believed him. And I was just like one like,

584
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: if you think that your partner is cheating on you,

585
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: they are like what I really think that? That is

586
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: just two really ignores that. I mean, I think because

587
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: she had so much true faith, Yeah in Mario, and

588
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: she had just done this amazing trip to Africa where

589
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: she saw leopard's stomachs rise and fall with their prey inside,

590
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh, I'm in the zen place for

591
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: my Africa trip, and she like, don't build a school

592
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Speaker 1: quote unquote God, this is so. I mean, I do

593
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 1: feel like this exact thing happened to me last summer

594
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: when I was like and I asked my ex boyfriend.

595
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: I was on the phone, and I was like, I

596
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: felt like something was different. I felt like something it's shifted,

597
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: and it was like hard to articulate exactly what it was.

598
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, we were supposed to go on

599
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: this trip together. He wasn't coming, and I was like,

600
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: what's happening? And I asked him point blank and I said,

601
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: are you seeing someone? And I was, you know, I

602
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: was like surprised that I was even asking the question

603
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: because it felt like it was such like such a

604
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: wild thing to even be putting out there. But you knew,

605
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: but obviously there's part of me that knew. And of

606
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: course he denied, and then of course it wasn't too

607
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: much later that I found out. But it was like,

608
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: if you have that in because your body doesn't just

609
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: create that inkling and there's not that kind of shift

610
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: unless something off And then I, I mean, I guess me,

611
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: that doesn't apply if you're just like so crazy and

612
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: jealous or whatever I'm talking about of if this is

613
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: more right like, if you have had this faithful, if

614
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: you had a crystal relationship and you feel that something

615
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: has shifted, it has And she says that his eyes

616
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 1: were different. Yeah, and then he was getting he was

617
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: getting like so defensive and like angry. And then it's

618
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: back and forth and back and forth, and then the

619
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: woman is like trying to extort him. And then it's

620
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: like super random lies where like I mean, again her detail,

621
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Speaker 1: She'll be like, so he got off the train at

622
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Speaker 1: Grand Central station, and I know that it takes fifteen

623
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Speaker 1: minutes he get from Grand Cltral station to the Upper

624
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: East Side and it took him an hour. And he said, oh,

625
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: the train was crowded, so I took a bus. I mean,

626
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: that's a crazy lie, crazy lie for this. They're taking

627
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: the bus. No, yeah, they're taking the bus unless it's me,

628
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: they're cheating on you. But that's also so random Manhattan people,

629
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: like it's so Upper West Side, Like I feel like

630
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: I have cleaning clients that are so rich that are

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Speaker 1: like Donlin, I got on the M six, Yeah, and

632
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: you're like, Sam set up there, well, you know, and

633
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: this was before the Q. Yeah, the famous famous Q

634
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: shout out to the fucking Q extension. Hell yes. Thank

635
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 1: you to all of our local elected officials, including Carolin

636
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: Maloney and Scott Sringer for making the Second Avenue subway

637
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 1: happen and providing access to residents on the east side

638
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: of Thank you to the Commissioner of Transportation in New

639
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: York City. Thank you to Albany for making it happen.

640
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,479
Speaker 1: Thank you to all of our MTA staff out there

641
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: driving those buses. You are the real heroes. Okay, heroes

642
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: don't wear capes, they wear MTA vests. Um so anyway, yeah,

643
00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: so basically, and then he was like, oh, no, I

644
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: met the girls all on the street because her dad

645
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: was ill. Yeah, I can. And it's just like you

646
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 1: just went and like fucked her at her house quickly

647
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 1: on your way back. Right. It's like, though, that is

648
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: the most random six year old man lie to be Like,

649
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: I met her on the corner of forty second and

650
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: Lex to talk about her dead dad. I mean at

651
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: the same time though, no, I mean, okay, he's he's

652
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: a liar and he's just lying. But as Ramona says,

653
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: she was touring with her Ramona Griggio for five months

654
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: out of the year. She was going to signing. I

655
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 1: mean that's because but the reason that Pino Griggio killed

656
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 1: her marriage is because she's launching this wine and she's

657
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: going to win signing. She's signing bottles of wine, and

658
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: that's what ruined her marriage. It's such an epic way

659
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: for a marriage to be ruined, to be going to

660
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: I mean that will be my downfall signing wine our

661
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,839
Speaker 1: CBC can Martinius. Yeah, okay. Another amazing part about her

662
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: wine business is that she's like, I hate like over

663
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: gaudy wine labels. So I did mine in a classic

664
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: gold over black, which is just like the cheesiest cheese

665
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: is callcombination, and it's so like it's like this embossed

666
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: like Sarah font that's like Pinot Grigio by Ramona. It's

667
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: so just like expensive Italian restaurants, so Trocatana and La

668
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: Parmagena two five like and I'm not quite sure what

669
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: she's comparing it too when she's like, I didn't want

670
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: to do this like cheesy thing, like she she died

671
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: not kind of more like drawn like nineteen crimes bottle

672
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: labels or there's like a big photo on it maybe yeah,

673
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: or she died me like a faux French. But she

674
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: also talks about She's like, look, if you go to

675
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: a huge liquor store in the suburbs, they have stacks

676
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: of the boxes that the wine comes in, So you

677
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: need to make sure your cardboard box that the wine

678
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: is shipped in has amazing packaging. I mean, she's dead

679
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 1: right about that because she knows who's buying. They're going

680
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: for customer, They're going what's the place in which is

681
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: like a huge wine liquor warehouse, and they're getting a

682
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: full case. Yeah, Ramona's Grecio and like putting it in

683
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: the suv. She has a sense I think of what

684
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: other Ramonas would be interested in. Rapid fire. Amazing line

685
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: here about Bethany. Bethany was the scrappy, self made street

686
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: or chow who were who was working her way to

687
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 1: the top. That is all just calling Bethany us to

688
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: redurch In. Well, you know, rewatching season one, I was reminded,

689
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: like Bethany really has come a long way, and and

690
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: she was like Bethany has always been insane and like

691
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: had this insane god complex. She was also at cookie side,

692
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: like she was like giving away cookies and an empty

693
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: Gristiti's Yeah, but she was husle and she was living

694
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: in like a really no glamorous apartment, like on the

695
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: upper side in this condo. And from the first episode

696
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: she just keeps being just like, one day, I want

697
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: to live down to I'm going to live in a loft.

698
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: I want to live back. I need to be where

699
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: things are happening. You know, I'm not so into this

700
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: up recite society culture thing. You know, I'm more downtown.

701
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: I'm fine, I'm crazy, And like she has continued to

702
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: tell herself the narrative like that she's down, that she's

703
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: downtown for the entire show, and she's always like the

704
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: one time when she like went to like a Chinese

705
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: Reason with Carol and Carol's being so freaked out by

706
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: Dimsum and Bethany just keeps going, we're New York ERDs.

707
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: This is what we do. We go to dnsum, We're downtown.

708
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: I live in loss, I live in Soho. She really

709
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: she has believed that about herself forever. She is downtown Ramona, Ramona,

710
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: Ramona another. Okay, so just took it quickly back though,

711
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: So about the end of her marriage, Oh that's what

712
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 1: I wanted to say was that her and Mario and

713
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: Avery did spend the pandem together in Florida, and I

714
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: did want to ask you, I do feel like they

715
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: definitely were hooking up. Yeah, I agree, and she was

716
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: probably like Avery was jobbing at her new Spotify job

717
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: in like her wing of the house, which gave me

718
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: a Mario time to make love. He entered me with

719
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: his big old Italian stallion as I sipped on panot grigio,

720
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: and then he lifted me onto the granite countertop. I

721
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: think that their relationship is kind of similar to Selena

722
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: Meyer and her ex u Veep. It's like he's always

723
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: he's good for nothing, then he's always coming back, and

724
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: then they're like dating for three weeks again. She's just like,

725
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, maybe it is working right,

726
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: and she's like in love and they're freeding each other

727
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: like parmesan a covered strawberries. Yeah. Anyway, when he is

728
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 1: cheating and she's relating the Marris point part, she gets

729
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 1: a She gets very angry about the mistress getting La

730
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: parmesan a take out right. She also sees this woman

731
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: like sends her texts at one point like screen rems

732
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: of her text with Mario to like prove that she

733
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: is fucking Mario, and she sees that he has sent

734
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: her the sunset pick that he took with her in Maples, Florida. Yeah,

735
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 1: she was like, oh, because he was thinking about retiring.

736
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: They did like a research ship to Naples to see

737
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: if he wanted to retire. There she was being so

738
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: Italian in tan and she was kind of like, look,

739
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to go to Heaven's waiting room, right.

740
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: I want to be go, go go. I'm a New

741
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: York City, New York City woman. I have five months

742
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: of Pinot Grigio signings. It's very the line on the

743
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 1: show when she's having that birthday party and she's just

744
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 1: I have sixty girlfriends and then she and like, over

745
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,640
Speaker 1: the course of the episode, like the number keeps like

746
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: growing and changing, and she's like, I've got seventy girlfriends,

747
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: I've got forty five girlfriend me in a hundred, and

748
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: it's just like the girlfriend number is like getting like

749
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,479
Speaker 1: so maximal. Um I. But my question is questions question

750
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: is this Do you feel like that is such an

751
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: invasion to send the sunset pick? Oh? My god, absolutely,

752
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: to send a pick. They were like snuggling at this

753
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: beautiful Naples resort, and then he took like a probably

754
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: like out of focus BlackBerry sunset photo. Can I say

755
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: something hold on and then sends it to the chick?

756
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: I mean it just seems like the most clear betrayal. Yes,

757
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: But I also think that in our age of phones,

758
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: we do recycle content, and we all know that we

759
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: do it. Sometimes. I see even I'll say it. I

760
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: see even you, my good friend, post a photo that

761
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: you may be sent to our group chat, you know,

762
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 1: with a tweet, and I do the same thing, but

763
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: you know it's different. Would you call that a betrayal? Well,

764
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 1: on some level, it is a betrayal. So we're down

765
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: at the red table. We're at the red table, and

766
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm calling myself. I know I have done that too

767
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: when it's that funny to me, right like, and sometimes

768
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: it doesn't really hit in the group chat or on Twitter,

769
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: and you're like, what was I doing with I honestly

770
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: think the times I send to the group chat and

771
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: tweet it, it's when it doesn't hit on both accounts

772
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: that's when I do it. But I think it's like

773
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: so deliriously yeah, just cackling in your eye, and I

774
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: need the top chat for Mica table and I need

775
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: the world to see it. Maybe I've had too much

776
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: Pinot grigio, a wine that's super light that can be

777
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 1: eaten with food or not. Yes, you can eat peanot

778
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: grugiti with foodder Okay, Okay, we'll continue discussing. I just

779
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: it's a problem. I think we all face, and we

780
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: all sort of navigate it in different ways. And sometimes

781
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,479
Speaker 1: I you know, I try to, like I might send

782
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: a selfie to a guy that I'm interested in, and

783
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: if I do decide to send a selfie to another

784
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: guy or a post or something, I might use a

785
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: selfie from the same photo session, but not the exact

786
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 1: same one. All right, I'm bringing you to the red table.

787
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: I may send a photo to group chat and then

788
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: tweet it, but you'll like fully take the joke from

789
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: group chat and make it into one of your little tweets,

790
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 1: which I find even more of a betrayal. Well, Unfortunately,

791
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: I work at Twitter as a jobbery I have to

792
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: be producing. You have to steal content. It's content. Can

793
00:42:48,160 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 1: Carlos Mencia over here segment grazio, What does she wear?

794
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: What does she eat? How does she live? What does

795
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: she wear? Does she wear? I mean, yeah, Kimberly Todd

796
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: Escavanza dresses, all of these just very like stretchy fabric

797
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: dresses with like some and little little figures, get her

798
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: embellishments here and there. She's always like tits out. She

799
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 1: says she has a bee cup and she gets implants

800
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: to keep at a bee, which is she does this

801
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: insane thing when she's talking at her implants where she

802
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: was like, I love to be honest about my implants.

803
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: And someone asked me if I got implants and I

804
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,919
Speaker 1: said no, and you're like, but you, but you got them.

805
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: She was like, so I wasn't ready to tell, but

806
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: of course I'm totally honest. And you're like, okay, this

807
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: is well just being honest about the journey about being

808
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: honest which took a minute to really be fully forthcoming

809
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: about the fact that she did get a low Sea

810
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: or a high bee saline implant. Basically, her thing was

811
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: that she wanted them to like beer here, just like

812
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: to stay up where they were because she likes she

813
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: goes to the surgeon where like a victorious secret push

814
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: up ron. It's like and this is what I want them.

815
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: I want them here, Um, you know, and who doesn't

816
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,359
Speaker 1: love a high tit I gotta the highest. So yes,

817
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: she's she's wearing like I mean, she wants to dress

818
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: in just like this cheesy sexual way like in nineties evolve.

819
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: I mean, she's just very nineties. But she's not by

820
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: any means like a designer, like in a fashionista way. No,

821
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: I think she does love like her whole jewelry line

822
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: is about how it's like priced for the everyday women. Yeah, exactly,

823
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: And she talks about how she gets so mad and

824
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 1: she starts like because she's too distracted with the marriage

825
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 1: and the charities and the giggio is that the price

826
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: point on her jewelry goes up and all of a

827
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: sudden it's being sold for a thousand, And her whole

828
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 1: thing is that, like she wants it to be sold

829
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: for like three hundred. So she is a maxinista at

830
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: the end of the day, she's a maccinista. She invented

831
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: the maccinista. Um, I mean does she eat again just

832
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: like insane A breeze salmon, Bucatini, Florentina Travisini salad. Yeah,

833
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: and she she's having dairy like every day, every day.

834
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I do like about her, that

835
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: she isn't really being so fat, like half and half

836
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: in her coffee, Yeah for sure. Um. And I think

837
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: she's so like salad at the club, like she's a lot,

838
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean all the moral Lago having this like big

839
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 1: grilled chicken salmon caeesar palm, chicken salmon palm, and like

840
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: on the show, whenever she's not having gree she's always

841
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: doing the bartender. She's just like I want a glass,

842
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: fill it to the top with ice and then vodka

843
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: and then soda, and it's just like so much. She's

844
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: the one who've made that amazing video of how to

845
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: make a vodka soda right, Oh yeah, I need just

846
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 1: like where it's like huge wine glass, tons of ice, vodka,

847
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: perry a lime, and I I feel like she at

848
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 1: one point had some I don't know, it was like

849
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: doing spa con or she actually like came out with

850
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: a line of it, but it was like some sort

851
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 1: of wine wine chiller device, because she's always just like

852
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: I can never have my white wine cold enough. She

853
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: wants it like freezing cold. Did your mom ever? You

854
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: your parents have so many like wine icycle devices. When yeah,

855
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: when you open the freezer at my house, it looks

856
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: like a sex toy shop. Like there's so many like

857
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 1: dildo esque objects in there for freezing wine and cups

858
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: of wine and whiskey. Those like spears. Yeah, like these

859
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: like inservative devices that can either go in the bottle

860
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: or in your glass. Um, how does she live? I mean,

861
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: she's it's like preppy or her Hampton's I feel like,

862
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: is pretty classic. It's so it's so generic and there's

863
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: so much gray and white. I mean, I remember when

864
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: she redid her Hampton's house and she's she was so

865
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: excited by it, and so she invites to the other

866
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: girls over the house for the first time. And it's

867
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 1: literally chunky chunky couches. It's just like big, like gray

868
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: chunky couches, like white, big square carpet, like some huge

869
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: like credenza with like mirrors on it. And she's weird

870
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: fucked up like things on credenza. The largest white island

871
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: like you've ever seen, Like the tabletop is it's like

872
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: the size of my apartment. And it's like she's showing

873
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: the girls around and like they're all like not that

874
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: interested in it because it's just like so bland amonochromatic,

875
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: and and she's like, I did this all myself, and

876
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: like Sonja or something, it's just like, well, like you

877
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: like design it. She was like, I bought I bought

878
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: it all. I bought it all online. I boughtle the

879
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: Foot on tront line. So it basically she like went

880
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: to Amazon and just like rug aball and got these

881
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: like and Luanne is just like it's just like she

882
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 1: couldn't have put a plant in here anyway, there's not

883
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: one living thing in the house. She also is so

884
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: that movie thing of like Daddy and Mommy are gonna

885
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 1: go get ready and like throws in there like big

886
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: carpeted like dressing room, like both putting on they're like

887
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: Kimberly Todd tuxes and dresses. And she'll be like, Mario

888
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: zipped up my Michael Core's dress and it's just like

889
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: this carpeted dressing and then he's putting a Truth Faith's

890
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: Cross around her and they're looking in the mirror and

891
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 1: he's like, you look so beautiful tonight. Michael Core is

892
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 1: really nails it, yes, because this Michael Core is up

893
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:18,720
Speaker 1: and down. Michael corps watches. Michael Core's betting. Absolutely, Core's betting.

894
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: So here's what's trump about her? Is that Michael Corsi

895
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: Michael cores sheets. But I think that it's about the

896
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: like reflectiveness and shininess of objects is like similar Row, Like, oh, yes,

897
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: Crow is attracted to shiny objects. Yes, it's like how

898
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 1: everything in Trump's house or like Marlago is like insane

899
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: gold and marble and all the shiny stuff. It's like

900
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: the same thing with her Mona. It's like there's so

901
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 1: many reflective surfaces and like glass credenzas and then mirrors

902
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: with like a mirror frame on the mirror and then

903
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: like yeah, just quote unquote marble, yeah, marble heavy things.

904
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: You're like, if things are big, it means I'm rich. Yeah,

905
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: if things are shiny, it means I'm rich. Yeah. There's

906
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: just a lot of shiny and then a lot of

907
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: grays and whites to go in between. And of course

908
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: no plants, but maybe like a fake plant and no, yeah,

909
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: maybe a fake plant. I don't really see her watering anything. No, absolutely,

910
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: imagine her watering now. And she's very like do you

911
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: think she drinks water? No? Yeah, I don't think so

912
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: I think that's also so droup. I think she's kind

913
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: of like, I think she's like she is that moment

914
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: in Baby Mama when Amy Pohler drinks water and spits

915
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: it out to quote this awesome movie Baby Mama, righting reference. Yeah,

916
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: you guys, put that on your fucking cute. There's okay,

917
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: there was. I remember one time she uploads Dike and pie.

918
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: She's mixing the two. No, no, no no. I mean

919
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: she goes when she has like quote unquote water, but

920
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: she'll be like, oh, there is this um. She had

921
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: this instant story like two years ago where she was

922
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 1: making fajitas and she kept pronouncing it frahita, so not

923
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: even I know, like our good girl frahita. And then

924
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: like three stories later she just starts saying fright to.

925
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: She's like putting all these things. She's like, and here

926
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: got my spices, and she has this plate she's just

927
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: like a regular dinner plate that she's put a bunch

928
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: of spices on that she's like mixing with this moon.

929
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: She's like, I have my salt, I have my toucumen.

930
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: Just isn't even a bowl, just a plate. Yeah, and

931
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: just making up as you cook you're getting a flat

932
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 1: plate and you being like girl like powder salt to pepper,

933
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: um chili flakes, and then you're like mixing with a

934
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: four and you're doing it like really fast and you're

935
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,319
Speaker 1: scratching the plate and it's so clinky, and then you're

936
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 1: like throwing chicken on it. And then the chicken, this

937
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: chicken is like burning. It is like covered and to

938
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: Komen and like the oil is like way too high.

939
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: And by the end of the video, she's just going

940
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: and that's how we make my fritata. And it's now

941
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: it's just a It's a chicken for Tata, burnt chicken

942
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: for Tata. Okay, who are you? In the book? I

943
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: think we have figured out that I am Ramona with

944
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: the Vertico from Supporting Dizzy Verbal Disorder Maxinista, Um, okay

945
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: you are? You know, yeah, you're honestly like not Ramona

946
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: to me. I mean there are definitely parts of you

947
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: that are like, I think, being like a fun chica

948
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 1: and being like this is a girl's night and being

949
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: like I'm going to Santropa with my girls because I'm

950
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,840
Speaker 1: renewing my vows is something you would do. Thank you.

951
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: I will force you to come to my valor neewal

952
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: into Entropa. No, but that's the whole thing. It's like

953
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: the vournel isn't there. You're like, we need to do

954
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 1: a girl's before val. Yeah, oh actually that's yeah, that's

955
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: even more me right huh. But then it's like, do

956
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: you think you're Colleen the HS and commentator who could

957
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: sell ice in a blizzard? Yes? I do? Oh and

958
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: then she gives her like the jade Arians on camera

959
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: and out immediately like Colleen, I have a gift for

960
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: you give gifts to business partners. It will go a

961
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: long way. I think that's also really good advice. Yes,

962
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: Like I feel like when you gave me that gift

963
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: from Uncommon James, that shirt that says I'm busy, when

964
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 1: you keep them to me on our Patreon if you

965
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: it's sold out now, yeah a common. But and that

966
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: was just a little something to show you we're in

967
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: this together. I'm busy? Or am I the hussy that

968
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: Mario is fucking? She sounded so shady like, almost like

969
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: two because she kept trying to extort money and sunscreen grabs. Honestly,

970
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm actually not sending you are and I'm actually and

971
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: when I do get involved in drama, I stay above

972
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 1: the fray. Yeah. No, you're much more Colleen and h Son.

973
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: Sometimes you're Ramona, but you're also a Bethany. I mean

974
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 1: I am a beth of course, I'm downtown. Dim sum

975
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: dim sum. Yeah, I went to NYU. I am the

976
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: most Bethanny person. And I'm always you haven't been to

977
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: a Laft party? Who are you? How long have you

978
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: lived in New York? I have a business. I'm always

979
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: criticizing people's branding in decision. Yeah you are. Everyone's like truly,

980
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: no one asked, and you're like, what the fuck? Who

981
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: invited her? Huh? Okay, I give this book car Huh.

982
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 1: It's hard to say because it's like, on the one hand,

983
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: it's like I give Ramona like five out of five

984
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: glasses of grigo. She's been so invaluable to the New

985
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: York franchise, like a she has been on the show

986
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: of the entire time. She's never she's never left in

987
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 1: the very first season, and like she's so committed to

988
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: like the plot and the bits and like being fun

989
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: when no one else is. Like I feel like the

990
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 1: entire Housewives franchise all the cities like wouldn't have survived

991
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: if Ramona hadn't been so reliable, dedicated just as she

992
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 1: was to her liquidating business. Of this book, it's like

993
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: two and a half for me out of five, I'm

994
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 1: giving three point two. This is an amazing book for

995
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: an Amtrak ride a airplane. I think I want to

996
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: pick it up covered in sand and half read part

997
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: about liquidating because I mean, I loved reading about the liquidating.

998
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: I loved reading about I like the liquidating too. There's

999
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,880
Speaker 1: just not that much here, but that's what I'm saying,

1000
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: Like it's it's I hook it up and it's kind

1001
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: of yummy at some points the real housewive stuff, you

1002
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 1: are a little like, so I saw the episode. I

1003
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: don't need this just kind of play by play. Yeah

1004
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: we're not really, I mean sometimes you're being with Then

1005
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm also like, if it's gonna be about Boss, then

1006
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: I maybe would want a sequel to cover the past

1007
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: like five seasons, because it kind of stops to run

1008
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 1: season six or seven. So you want more, well, I

1009
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: guess I yeah, I either want more or less of

1010
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: the housewivee stuff. I appreciate a random fucking book about

1011
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: like I'm selling dresses to Nordstorm, and that's why I'm

1012
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: giving it my three point two. Okay, that's fair, but

1013
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: can see but reading her, like you know, talk about

1014
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: Jill's Arren briefly makes me want to hear what you

1015
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: would have to say about Tinsel or Drnda right leaves

1016
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 1: you wanting more, Ramona? Are you listening all right? Real housewife?

1017
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 1: Hive bump. This next week, we are reading a book

1018
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: by legendary actress Pam Grier and her book Fox Say

1019
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: My Life in Three Acts. Can't wait to dick into that.

1020
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: I love her as an actress and a PhD scholar

1021
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 1: and a scholar and a thinker. Thank you so much

1022
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: to another amazing episode. Stay tuned for the VIP If

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Speaker 1: Get those marty glasses out and fill them up with

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1027
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Speaker 1: ballers come to leave. Shake Shake, Shake, we don't even use.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited because in the booth this week we

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Speaker 1: have a guest, and not just any guest, but a hot, sexy,

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Speaker 1: single gay man famous green Point foodie, curmudgeon, fashionista, host

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Speaker 1: of Rappy Rocker a super hot rocker really intersection of

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Speaker 1: prop and rock, host of the Dial Dan podcast. We,

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Speaker 1: of course we're talking about Dan Allegretto. Dan. Welcome to VIP.

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 1: Welcome to the VIP Lounge. Oh thank you, Dan. We

1035
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Speaker 1: bought you on here today. Um to discuss Ronie. We

1036
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: don't have to talk about it whatever. I don't want

1037
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: to be labeled as like a Bravo gay because I'm

1038
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: just so hot. I mean, just for the listeners who

1039
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: maybe aren't familiar, I just wanna my well, I only

1040
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: watch Rony because I think it's incredible television. I've been

1041
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: there from the beginning and it really is on the best.

1042
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: Literally us. In the beginning of our normal episode we

1043
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: spend five minutes. It's just been like, we are not

1044
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Speaker 1: Bravo Games, okay, but it's cool if you are. Ye,

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