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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of My Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today on the show, it's another

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Speaker 1: listener questions episode. Happy New Year, every guys, Every guys,

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year, every guys. I talk good normal. That's

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Speaker 1: this is going to be the new way that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to start off the new year with some listener questions.

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Speaker 1: Got a whole bunch of new creature features coming up

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Speaker 1: in the year, you know, every Wednesday and so on.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm probably right now as you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: I'm probably full of some kind of beverage, eating some

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Speaker 1: gonna air a creature classic that I pull out from

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Speaker 1: the archives and the archives from the old vintage the seller,

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Speaker 1: the pod Seller, where I've got a bunch of pods

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Speaker 1: I hope you guys all had a good holiday season.

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Speaker 1: Oh let's let's get right into it. Let me answer

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Speaker 1: so your question as Hi, Katie, please hear me out.

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Speaker 1: I love my pets. They are annoying, They demand a

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Speaker 1: lot of time and attention, they don't really do much,

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Speaker 1: and I devote a lot of time and resources to

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Speaker 1: making sure that they are all as happy as possible.

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Speaker 1: If I died, they would probably eat my corpse within minutes. Sure,

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Speaker 1: I get a dopamine hint when I pet them, and sure,

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Speaker 1: occasionally the cats even seem to like me. But the

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Speaker 1: fish exist only to entertain the cats. And don't get

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Speaker 1: me started on the dog. She is constantly trying to

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Speaker 1: eat as much garlic and plastic as possible. The struggle

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Speaker 1: is just keeping her alive. Am I being used? If

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Speaker 1: one of them wanted to replace my tongue, I'd at

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Speaker 1: least consider it. Sounds like a parasite to me. Thanks, Will, So,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the question. Will. Uh. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: I've gotten a similar question about whether dogs are parasites.

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Speaker 1: And I'm always interested in talking about the nature of

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Speaker 1: our relationships with animals because they're interesting and complicated. So first,

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Speaker 1: let me do a little refresher on what isn't isn't

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Speaker 1: a parasite and how biology defines relationships, So any close

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Speaker 1: relationship between two or more organisms or species is called symbiosis.

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Speaker 1: This could be the relationship between bees and flowers, or

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Speaker 1: a tick on a dog. Symbiosis describes a whole variety

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Speaker 1: of relationships, from mutualism where both organisms benefit such as

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Speaker 1: another type of relationship called commence ali is um, where

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Speaker 1: So an example of this would be the cattle egret,

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Speaker 1: and this is a commensil relationship. So relationships between organisms

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Speaker 1: So an example of this is whether oxpeckers are parasites

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Speaker 1: called next Question, So here it is. Hi Katie. First,

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