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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, this is the week

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Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury finally beats Jared Golf. At least that's the goal. Offensively,

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Speaker 1: the Lions would not appear to be much of a challenge,

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Speaker 1: as those stats don't always tell the whole story. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of challenges, the challenge Kyler Murray faces without DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: who steps into that role. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode

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Speaker 1: five to eleven, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot com,

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: We say it often this show, MJA. Things change very

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Speaker 1: quickly in the National Football League. We talked about it

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday, DeAndre Hopkins needing a second opinion and then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, in the blink of an eye,

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Speaker 1: we are talking once again about the prospects, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's prospects anymore. We know DeAndre Hopkins is

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Speaker 1: not going to play this week. The team officially hasn't

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Speaker 1: said anything beyond that, but it does sound like number

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirks had a really good year. AJ Green's coming

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Speaker 1: throwing Antoine Wesley. It sounds like they trust him. He

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Speaker 1: a little bit on this matchup here as we continue

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Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, proud partner of

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Offensively, the Detroit Lions only two other teams,

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Speaker 1: three touchdowns. Cardinals, by comparison, have gotten into the end

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Speaker 1: Only three times this season have they scored twenty or

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Speaker 1: huge mismatch on paper. And to make matters worse for Detroit,

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Speaker 1: reports are that tied end TJ. Hockinson done for the

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Speaker 1: season after undergoing hand surgery. There running back situation. DeAndre

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Speaker 1: nineteen list. So there is not a lot of skilled

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Speaker 1: you hear from players, you hear from coaches, and what

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Speaker 1: they see on film tells a different story than what

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Speaker 1: we are reading here on the statuet. Yeah. I mean

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Speaker 1: he made some comments in his press conference and I

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Speaker 1: think he's perfect for Detroit. Just a blue collar city

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Speaker 1: and people work hard and they love their sports there,

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Speaker 1: they play hard. It's just you know, it's first year

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Speaker 1: but the fact is they're gonna play hard to the

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Speaker 1: to that point. Are you a free agent? Are you

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Speaker 1: playing not to get hurt? Because all that stuff is

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Speaker 1: on tape the eye and this guy doesn't lie. So yeah, Hawkinson,

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Speaker 1: he do you remember when he played the Cardinals. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Rattle off the numbers because it was thirty one yards

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Speaker 1: secondary But you know, I think Cliff pointed out we've

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Speaker 1: look at Vans talked about how good. The offensive line

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Speaker 1: to the game, so I assume that he's not playing.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Taylor Deckers and then Vane sue Or

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Speaker 1: and he got a guy from the Philadelphia Eagles. But

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Speaker 1: he said that, you know, their offensive line doesn't get

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Speaker 1: enough credit, but they just haven't been able to consistently

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the strengths of Jerick Goff seventeenth

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Speaker 1: Saint Brown, a rookie fourth round pick out of USC

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Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds. Look, it's young talent, it's not experienced talent.

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Speaker 1: And then as far as running the football, last week

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Speaker 1: And that's because Swift and Williams did not play. So

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Speaker 1: they're finding players. They're having limited success. But again, talent

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Speaker 1: should win out on Sunday, the Cardinals should go in

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Speaker 1: and come away with a victory. But we keep saying it.

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Speaker 1: This team, talking about the Detroit Lions, plays very, very

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Speaker 1: then Pineysol the right tackle highest graded tackle in the

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Speaker 1: have some pieces. But when you look for information on

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Speaker 1: is number one overall pick prospects Draft needs. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: what you do in the middle of December. That's what

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Speaker 1: we've done here on Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday

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Speaker 1: probably partner of the Arizona Cardinals, because your team is

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Speaker 1: out of it. At one eleven and one, the Lions

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Speaker 1: officially eliminated from playoff contention. We've been in their spot

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Speaker 1: to where the rest of the regular season it matters,

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Speaker 1: but now you have an eye towards the future and

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Speaker 1: what's next. And the Lions are looking at what's next,

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Speaker 1: while the Cardinals are looking at well this week and

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Speaker 1: this week only. Yeah, I mean I'm looking at their schedule.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was forty one thirty three in Week

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Speaker 1: lose it of Vikings nineteen to seventeen. They lose to

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Speaker 1: week they lose thirty eight ten, so they're not I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of blowouts in there, but you could

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Speaker 1: see that they play hard. It's just like I said

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Speaker 1: it'd be to me, it would be interesting to see

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals first couple of possessions get out to a

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Speaker 1: then Vans can tee off and get after the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So these couple, first couple of possessions and weather won't

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Speaker 1: be a factor. Cardinals be fired up. They practice in

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Speaker 1: the morning, so the times, the game time will not

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Speaker 1: affect these guys. But you know, just going there and

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Speaker 1: take care of business. As we've talked about it at length.

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Speaker 1: When why is this team got on the road because

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Speaker 1: it's a business this trip. You know, they don't have

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Speaker 1: to wear suits. Some guy, obviously Clifford, you know, has relaxuals.

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Speaker 1: I do think if Connor doesn't practice, they know more

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Speaker 1: than us. I did see him walking, I didn't see

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Speaker 1: any limp. He's taken such a beating, I don't need

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Speaker 1: to see him practice, but I would love to see

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Speaker 1: him out there on game day. I would too, because

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Speaker 1: I do think that combination if Edmonds is back, You've

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Speaker 1: got James Connor, and all of a sudden, you're getting

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Speaker 1: some pieces back, even though you're losing a giant puzzle

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Speaker 1: piece and DeAndre Hopkins, but having that one two punched

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Speaker 1: in the back of the field would benefit everyone, not

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Speaker 1: just Kinda Murray, but the entire offense and the entire team. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think we got to separate the position so nobody's

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Speaker 1: You got your tight ends. Zach Ertz obviously he's gonna

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Speaker 1: so and again they have enough depth there, so somebody's

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Speaker 1: gonna somebody's gonna get the targets. It could be like

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rondo Moore's a rookie, but you know, they

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Speaker 1: want to put more on his plate, and he's got

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Speaker 1: that mental mentality, maturity and mentality that he hasn't hit

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Speaker 1: the wall, you know. So that's a good thing. And

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Speaker 1: like I said, I just don't think we need to

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Speaker 1: break the positions down because somebody's gonna guitar hops Targets

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Speaker 1: Cardinals Covered two presented by Honday, proud partner of the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, as we continue to look at this week

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Speaker 1: fifteen matchup in Detroit Cardinals ten and three lines, one

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Speaker 1: eleven and one eleven AM is the kickoff from Ford

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Speaker 1: Field on Sunday six thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. We've talked about Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: a couple of times, and it was interesting earlier in

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Speaker 1: that last game in Los Angeles a year ago, golf

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Speaker 1: is played. It was John Woolford. Yeah, Chris Traveler, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as well as the week before at State Farm Stadium

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Speaker 1: But Goff against Kingsbury and I know it's not against Kingsbury,

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Speaker 1: to Jared Goff in those three wins almost seventy three

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Speaker 1: times now overall in his career seven and one in

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Speaker 1: He's completing seventy one percent of his passes. Now, that

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Speaker 1: without Sean McVeigh so on film, though, Vans Joseph said

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Speaker 1: he's seeing a very talented quarterback in Jared Goff who's

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Speaker 1: Yet I do think, as we chronicled earlier, the talent

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Speaker 1: and when you just look at Jared Goff, clearly you

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Speaker 1: That's probably why they both got extended. But there's I

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Speaker 1: him plays former head coach of the Chargers, and then

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Speaker 1: But I just like I said, we talk about talent.

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Speaker 1: A team that plays the best is going to win

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Speaker 1: the second half. So it's one thing to understand what

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Speaker 1: You got to go out and as they cliche says,

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Speaker 1: own job, and execute, because I do think that this

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Speaker 1: is a game. This can be a very good game

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Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals going into the last three Indianapolis, Dallas, NCT. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, everyone made a big deal about

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Speaker 1: the Rams get back game against Jackson the Jaguars, and

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Speaker 1: this could be the gap back game for the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Now you're ready for this stat The Lions have lost

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Speaker 1: their last twenty nine matchups versus a team entering five

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Speaker 1: games above high hundred, the longest streak by any team

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Speaker 1: since two thousand Detroit was the last win was two

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Speaker 1: thousand and three. Kind of similar to Matthew Stafford, I

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Speaker 1: was just going to say that that's I've never seen

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Speaker 1: this set about five games over five hundred. I guess

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Speaker 1: that's why we're at this point in the year, or

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Speaker 1: there are certain amount of teams that are five games

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Speaker 1: or five hundred. Yeah, that Matthew Stafford stat now is

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Speaker 1: non existent. So now that you've just said that about

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Speaker 1: the Lions, m Jay, what are you doing here. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: this is a different matchup than the Rams. That is true.

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Speaker 1: As you like to say, though, history means absolutely going

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Speaker 1: in the game and whatever happened there, jerikoff his numbers

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: against Carlos, it's not going to mean anything now before

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Speaker 1: we close shop, what did you make advanced Joseph, Just

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Speaker 1: talking about this team's mindset and goal, whether they win

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00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: it at home or on the road, is to win

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Speaker 1: the game, regardless of the site where the game is played.

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Speaker 1: Quote right now, our home record is not that good.

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Speaker 1: But it's not about home or away. It's about us

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Speaker 1: doing things right. That's the message. So the energy comes

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Speaker 1: from doing it right, making plays on our terms. That's

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Speaker 1: what it's about. End quote. I think coaches and players

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Speaker 1: are getting sick and tired of being asked, whether it's

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Speaker 1: by the media, whether it's by friends and family. Hey,

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Speaker 1: why can't you win at home? Why can't you play

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Speaker 1: as well as you do at home as you do

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Speaker 1: on the road. Okay, correct me from wrong. They loose

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Speaker 1: to the Packers, they have a high scene right now. Correct, Correct,

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Speaker 1: they're number one. They lose to the Rams. The Rams,

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Speaker 1: so it's two playoff teams. Okay, the dud was the

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Speaker 1: Panthers game. We didn't see it coming. I thought the

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Speaker 1: team was wired. I mean, again, give them credit, just

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Speaker 1: like the Rams, but they lost to two playoff teams.

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Speaker 1: It's not like, yeah, in the Minnesota game, they could

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Speaker 1: not control Greg Joseph missing the field goal. Now, obviously

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Speaker 1: that was a game that they didn't play their a game,

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Speaker 1: but they were able to get to win. And we've

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Speaker 1: been on the other side for years. So keep in mind,

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Speaker 1: they lost to two playoff teams, and these teams are

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Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. I mean, you could see

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Speaker 1: the Rams possibly pull off an upset you and the Packers.

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Speaker 1: If they lock off the number one seed, you gotta go.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go to Lambeau. So keep that in mind

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Speaker 1: when you look again. The idea is when they step

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Speaker 1: on the field, home or away, the goal is to

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Speaker 1: win the game. I mean, no one, no one picked

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals to go seven and o on the road

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Speaker 1: this year, So it balances itself out. Look at the record,

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Speaker 1: they're ten and three. What if this team was seven

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Speaker 1: and oh at home and three and three on the road, Well,

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Speaker 1: I would would be concerned because if you don't win

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Speaker 1: the division, you got to go on the road and

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Speaker 1: you're saying, well they got home cooking. They take advantage

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Speaker 1: of the crowd, and the crowd was loud. I mean

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Speaker 1: it was a pro Cardinal route. Don't get to twist it.

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Speaker 1: But they're ten and three. The goal is to win

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Speaker 1: every single game, and no teams going seventeen to no.

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Speaker 1: I mean the top teams right now in football have

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Speaker 1: three losses. Well, what was the note earlier on Thursday

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Speaker 1: that there has yet to be a team in either

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Speaker 1: conference that has not clinched the division, hasn't clinched a

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Speaker 1: playoff this spot and this is after week fourteen. No,

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Speaker 1: we can see what happens tonight, even though you know

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs had won sixth straight and they played the Chargers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this hasn't happened in a long time now. It could

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Speaker 1: be because you got the seventeen schedule. Half the teams

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Speaker 1: in the league, Craig are six and seven and seven

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Speaker 1: and six. Half. There is a dramatic drop off as

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Speaker 1: far just for as far as records, especially in the NFC,

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Speaker 1: it's top heavy now in the AFC, much different story

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Speaker 1: because that has certainly been a revolving door as far

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Speaker 1: as who is the team of the week with respects

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Speaker 1: to who is the media going to annoint as the

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Speaker 1: number one team in the AFC. Right now, it would

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Speaker 1: appear to be the Patriots, but that can change. And

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Speaker 1: a split second, okay, almost half to be correct, Colt

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Speaker 1: seven and six, Phills seven and six, Brown seven and six,

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Speaker 1: Broncos seven and six, forty nine or seven and six,

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Speaker 1: Steelers six, six and one, Raiders, Dolphins, Washington, Vikings, Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Falcon Saints six and seven. Almost half the league. You

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Speaker 1: know what, that's called parody and they love it. The

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Speaker 1: league loves it. Yeah, I don't know if the individual

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Speaker 1: fan bases of the respective teams love it unless you're

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Speaker 1: one of those teams that are sitting there going, hey,

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Speaker 1: our season is not done. Week. Still have an opportunity, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I want to say twenty eight teams are still eligible.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's four teams now. In baseball, you know

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Speaker 1: you got that extra wildcard game and teams play well

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Speaker 1: down the stretch and it's one game. Just like the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You get in, it's one opportunity. Unless you lose, you

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Speaker 1: go home. If you win, you move on. As AJ

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Speaker 1: Green said earlier on Thursday, quote this league is so

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Speaker 1: weak to week meaning days of the week, not week

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Speaker 1: as in the opposite of strong. Yeah, when you say

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Speaker 1: things change. When Kingsbury said he's getting a second opinion,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden the national media jumps on it,

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Speaker 1: and within twenty four hours we find out he's having

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Speaker 1: surgery versus after the game. You know, you gotta wait

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Speaker 1: until the swelling goes down for the MRIs. As you

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Speaker 1: pointed out correctly, James kind of addressed the media, so

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Speaker 1: you're thinking he's much better. But yeah, I mean things

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Speaker 1: change hourly in this league, and I mean look at

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Speaker 1: all the COVID and I'm concerned about the playoffs. I'm

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Speaker 1: concerned about Christmas. A good thing. The Cardinals are playing

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Speaker 1: at home on Christmas. Speaking of change, here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cardinals upcoming schedule. Week seventeen January, Seconds at Dallas. Kickoff

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Speaker 1: is now two twenty five pm Arizona time. This was

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Speaker 1: a morning game scheduled for eleven o'clock. Fox chose to

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Speaker 1: move that game to their late window, showing how important

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Speaker 1: that game is to Fox potentially the number one announcing

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Speaker 1: TV crew of Joe Back and Troy Aikman the other

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Speaker 1: late game. I looked at m JA that day on

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Speaker 1: Fox and that four twenty five Eastern window Rams at Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Solid matchup, but because it's the Cowboys that seems to

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Speaker 1: draw a bigger audience. So I would expect Joe Buck

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Speaker 1: and Troy Aikman for the second time this season. But really,

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Speaker 1: Thursday nights they count, but they don't really count because

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Speaker 1: this shows you, and it's not just the Cowboys, but

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Speaker 1: it does show you they respect that the national media,

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Speaker 1: or at least Fox has for this particular matchup involving

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Yeah, I love it. I you know, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know if they were gonna get flex to a

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Speaker 1: Sunday night game, but you and I kind of handicapped it,

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Speaker 1: you know, maybe after week ten or eleven goring into

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Speaker 1: a bye week when we didn't. But this is I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is prime time. I mean this seatings are on

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Speaker 1: the line. Dallas has eight wins nine four sorry, nine

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Speaker 1: and four, so this is about seating. And you know,

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Speaker 1: whether you're two or I mean, you got to figure

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Speaker 1: right now. I would just based on the Bucks record.

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Speaker 1: The Packers have more of a tougher schedule, but again

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Speaker 1: they do end up with the Lions. So you're told

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Speaker 1: on a three year four seat, you know, four place five.

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Speaker 1: I think right now it would be Cowboys Rams at

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Speaker 1: four or five. Right now the Cardinals would play Washington.

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Speaker 1: So it's a big difference. I mean it's one seating,

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Speaker 1: but the whole idea win the division hosts a playoff

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Speaker 1: game and then make a run. That's the goal of

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Speaker 1: every NFL team. The Cardinals again, winning you're in. You

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Speaker 1: clinch the playoffs spot with the victory still in the

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Speaker 1: driver's seat as far as winning the NFC West is concerned,

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Speaker 1: but you do have to win these games, beginning this

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Chargers, but we will break down

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Speaker 1: further Cardinals and Lions on what will be a Football

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