1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: Uh, do do do? Sophie? Is that an introduction? I 2 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: mean it is because you did it so well. Welcome 3 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: to America. And also the podcasts, Robert, what what I 4 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: feel like you're from. I feel like you're turning from 5 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 1: podcast Daddy into podcast uncle. And the vibes are just 6 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: a few like do did he do do? And then 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: again it's like and also if you look at him, 8 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: his nose is all pink right now. Yeah, is huge 9 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: uncle vibes. Thank you, thank you. We are back and 10 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: we're going to be talking today as we did one 11 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: of the last times. We talked about Ben Shapiro's two 12 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: thousand and thirteen book Porn Generation, how liberalism is corrupt 13 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: in our future. Yeah, we're back when we're dryer than ever. Yeah. 14 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: Where are we are boned? Right now? Sophia. Obviously, because 15 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: I returned the kindle edition of Ben's book last time, 16 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: I had to go get it again, and as I 17 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: was typing into Google, I mistyped the title because it's 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: Porn Generation. I typed generation sex into the title, and 19 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: lo and behold, I got a result four A beIN 20 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: Shapiro book from two thousand and five. Now, when I 21 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,119 Speaker 1: look at it, on Amazon's called Generation Sex Explode, exposing 22 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: the full frontal assault on American innocence. I, um, you know, 23 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: the only thing, the only person that knows less about 24 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: pleasing a woman than present day adult Ben Shapiro is 25 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: sixteen year old past yeah, yeah, fucking child Ben Shapiro. Well, 26 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how when I look forward to finding 27 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: out how he hedgehogged a bunch of ladies services while fingering, 28 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: because you not know how to fucking curve his fingers, 29 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: so he would have been what one would have been, 30 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: twenty one year old Ben Shapiro. Don't trust him, don't 31 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: don't let him near anywhere near revolva. What are you doing? 32 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 1: Certainly not? Um, I don't want him exposing anything of himself. 33 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: But he published this apparently in two thousand five. It's 34 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: three to twenty pages, published by Thomas Nelson, Inc. Amazon 35 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: says that there was only a hardcover available and the 36 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: book is currently unavailable. They don't know when it will 37 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: be back in stock. If you haunted on eBay, if 38 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: you have a copy or find a copy of Ben 39 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: Shapiro's two thousand five book, Generation Sex. Sophia and I 40 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: and I think we can speak for Cody Johnston in 41 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: this would would very much appreciate getting our hands on 42 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: that little bastard um the you mean, Ben Shapiro, we 43 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: mean no, we mean I do want to read the 44 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: good Reads summary of this book because I found that 45 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: so let's let's let's dive in American society, according to 46 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro, is a sex machine. From movies to sitcom's 47 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: rap to rock teen mags to porno rags, American culture 48 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: has become a pusher of promiscuity and perversion, and in 49 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: this sharp, audacious, fearless book, Shapiro, the most prominent young 50 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: conservative in the nation, reveals the gross over sexualization of 51 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: our society and how it targets youth culture from early 52 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: education or rather indoctrine nation, to the disastrous world of 53 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: sex lust and immorality that pervades our high schools, colleges, 54 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: and beyond. By clearly identifying the problems many unnotice or 55 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 1: ignored of an out of control MTV culture, overly sexual 56 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: ad campaigns, and an overly permissive mainstream media, Shapiro illustrates 57 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: the dangers and devastating consequences a waiting today's kids, who 58 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: are in essence being sexually assaulted on a daily basis. 59 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: Shapiro also provides real, solid, and often drastic solutions for 60 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: what we can and must do to stop the corruption 61 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 1: of America's youth. God damn, I'm sorry sexually assaulted. That 62 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: is deranged, among other things. How out of touch do 63 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: you have to be in two thousand five to think 64 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: that MTV is a major force in youth culture? Again 65 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and five, I remember too, I was in 66 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: high school in two thousand five. I don't know anybody 67 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: who watched MTV except for like my gin x cousins. Okay, 68 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I was in college. That hurts, But the point is, yes, 69 00:04:55,880 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: that's yes, simply out of touch. And also I I 70 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: cannot imagine being more out of touch than referring to 71 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: anything as a sex machine when you're to any one 72 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: years old. I mean, and I know he was like, 73 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:14,119 Speaker 1: this is a fucking killer pun Like, this is fucking sick. 74 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna want to be my best friend. It's it's 75 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: really gonna blow up my social calendar. Yeah, I mean, 76 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 1: And again, as we've noted, like his his premise is 77 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: as inaccurate here as it is in his two thirteen book, 78 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: Like Young Young People Are less promiscuous than previous generations 79 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: for a variety of reasons which we don't need to 80 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: litigate now, but the data is incredibly consistent on that point. Um. 81 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's I I want to read this book. Uh. 82 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: There's something horrific to be said about the fact that 83 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: he he talks about how kids being exposed to I'm 84 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: guessing Janet Jackson's boobs at the Super Bowl, um, are 85 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: being sexually assaulted. Um. The fact that he considers I 86 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: don't know, everyone not wearing Puritan garb to be sexual 87 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: assault is offensive for a lot of reasons and says 88 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: a lot about Ben Shapiro's mindset. But yeah, so I 89 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: just love the life experiences, um of a man that 90 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: have been so sheltered and adorable that he can use 91 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,119 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted phrase so liberally without thinking about it even 92 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: a little bit. Anyway, Generation sex On on good Reads 93 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: has twelve ratings, an average of two point five eight 94 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: out of five. Um, it sounds like a good book. Yeah, 95 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: that's a lot higher. That means someone went over to. 96 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: That does mean someone went over to. That's not good 97 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: news for us. And you read the most positive review, 98 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: please eitherre are no positive reviews that are written like 99 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: the three written reviews are cowards review of Just There. 100 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: I think a bunch of people gave it two stars 101 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: and Ben gave it live Like I think, I think 102 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: that's probably what happened. Realistic. Yeah, it sounds like our 103 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: old are our good lad been Shapiro. But now it's 104 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: probably time that we, uh we dive into porn generation. 105 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,679 Speaker 1: We do this, we get face deep in the porn generation. 106 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: You think we could all get time saved. Ben Shaparrow 107 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: just admitted he was bad at sex. I mean, it's 108 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: not that he's bad at sex, it's that he's terrified 109 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: of it in in a manner that like completely to 110 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: use an old term completely, like, uh, he's he's clearly 111 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: deeply frightened by the idea that other people enjoy sex. 112 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Like that's what's going on with Ben Shapiro. Um, he's 113 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: he is scared that there are people out there fucking 114 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: and enjoying it. And I think he's scared don't get it. 115 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: And the only thing to do when you don't get 116 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: something is to hate it. Yeah, Yeah, I mean he's 117 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: he's he's just on the edge of being of the 118 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: in cell mindset in a lot of ways, like like 119 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: he's framing it as like everybody's having all this sex 120 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: and it's like super immoral and it's it's damaging society. 121 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 1: And the in cell line is that like a small 122 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: number of like hyper sexual men are having sex with 123 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: all of the women, and women just want to take 124 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: all of the big chad. Like that's that's the in 125 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: cell line. And Bins is you know, away from that line, 126 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: but but not that far, and some of it's just 127 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: using slightly different terms. Um. And I think that also 128 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: ties into like the fear of like trans people and 129 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: queer culture in general, because like, can you imagine that 130 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: not only are people having sex and enjoying themselves, but 131 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: they might be doing it in a way that he 132 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: has not thought of yet. Yeah, and I think that 133 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure if no one told him about going down 134 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: on women, he like would have never considered it. Not 135 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: that he considers it now, I mean like it just 136 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: wouldn't occur to him. I am certain that he thinks 137 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: it should be illegal to perform moral sex. Yeah, and 138 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: he also thinks butts should be illegal. Yeah, he definitely 139 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: thinks but should be illegal. Um. Alright, So I was 140 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: just looking into Um. One of the sources been so like, 141 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 1: after you remember when we were talking last time, we 142 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 1: kind of ended on been been talking about this young woman, Katie, 143 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: who he interviewed about sex said, who was like, yeah, 144 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: it was fine. I felt like I got good sex. 145 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: Said I didn't have sex until I was like, you know, nineteen, 146 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: and they broke Katie Yeah, and yeah. Ben was like, look, 147 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean sure she's well adjusted and successful in doing 148 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: well at an Ivy League institution, but what other damage 149 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: could there be that we can't see? Like okay, So 150 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: he goes from like he talks about Katie and like 151 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: how like he's got this like his actual case study 152 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: of someone who went through this sex said He's horrified 153 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 1: by that, Like, yeah, you know, eventually I had sex 154 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: and it was fine, and I feel good about, you know, 155 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: healthy about where I am, and she seems to be 156 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: doing great, and so like the case study he brings 157 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: up to to point out how bad all this actually 158 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: is is a book by Tom Wolfe without a fictional 159 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 1: girl named Charlotte Simmons Um and I read into this. 160 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: We we made fun of the fact last time, just 161 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: that like he's he's arguing that like this is evidence 162 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: of how teens actually are. This book written by a 163 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: man who was in his sixties when he published this 164 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: book and two and it's also I read more about 165 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: it because it's like one of the most panned and 166 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: hated Tom wolf books. So like this book about young 167 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: people like nineteen year olds in two thousand and four, 168 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: written by Tom Wolfe. Everyone has a pager and the 169 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: Internet has never mentioned. Look, no one knows more about 170 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: young people than old people. Everybody, Tom wolf It's very funny. Um. So, 171 00:10:58,160 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: one of the people he brings into the source after 172 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: the is a khaim awitz Um who is the author 173 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: of a book called Ready or Not Why treating children 174 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: as small adults endangers their future and ours? Um and 175 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: she uh. I kind of looked into this lady a 176 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: little bit, um like by a little bit being her 177 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: Wikipedia um and I found a couple of quotes from 178 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: her articles that people have pulled out. Here's one from 179 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: a Wall Street Journal editorial. Marital breakdown is not rampant 180 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: across the land. It is concentrated among low income in 181 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,839 Speaker 1: black couples. Americans seem to have a lot of trouble 182 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: grasping this fact, probably because so much public space is 183 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: taken up by politicians, celebrities, and journalists. With marriage on 184 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: the skids. Um. She argues that like, uh, divorces declining 185 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,079 Speaker 1: among well educated white people, um, and that couples are 186 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: happier than ever, um, which I don't think the evidence suggests. Yeah. Um, well, 187 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: I mean the divorce rate in recent years has been declining. 188 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: It was not in two thousand. Uh, but I believe 189 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: where fewer people are getting married, yes, a lot fewer 190 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: people account for blessed divorced kind of um. So yeah, 191 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: he cites uh. Shortly after he's talking about Katie, he 192 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: cites Kajimowitz's book Ready or Not What Happens when we 193 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,559 Speaker 1: treat children as small adults, And in that k argues 194 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 1: that anti culturalists are people who believe that childhood sexuality, 195 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: left on its own, free of social interference, will flourish 196 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: and grow in healthy ways. So like that's her attitude, 197 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: is that, like if you just let kids kind of 198 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 1: do what comes naturally, um and provided with information perverts, Yeah, yeah, 199 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: it's anti cultural to do that. It's anti cultural to 200 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: not try and take control of the direction of your 201 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: child sexuality and dictate it um. And then been quotes 202 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: a long passage from K's Terrible Book, drained of all 203 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 1: feeling but physical pleasure, rationalized into philo facts. Personal organizer 204 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: entries the sex given to us by this ministry is 205 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,719 Speaker 1: a little more than techno fantasy. They do not see 206 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: the alternate least insecure are in grandiose, idealistic conclude perpetually 207 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: glandular teenager. Most of us know their teenager, like that 208 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: of so many other experts, is rational, self aware, and autonomous. 209 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: Information is all these kids need, they say, information and 210 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,199 Speaker 1: some d programming to counteract society's continuing efforts to pervert 211 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: their healthy sexual natures. So now we have a nation 212 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: of teenagers who are information rich but knowledge poor. They 213 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: and their ten year old brothers and sisters, for that matter, 214 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: maybe adults when it comes to technical information. Certainly, their 215 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 1: putitive sophistication about sexual matters is the subject of endless 216 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: headshaking by parents in the media. But as they approach 217 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: graduation in the anti cultural school of self sufficiency, they 218 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: remain predictably illiterate when it comes to real human connection. Okay, 219 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: so the reason why face looks like this is because 220 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to get over perpetually glandular glanduli. Yeah, 221 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 1: it's this idea like teens are so controlled by their 222 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: their emotions and so that you have to that you 223 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: have to parents have to have total control over them. 224 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: This idea that like my my parents had that like, 225 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: as your parent, it is my job to exercise total 226 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: control over you. If I think you're doing something that's 227 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: not healthy, which is bad and makes your kids not 228 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: want to talk to you for years, by the way, 229 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: if if parents happen to be here, Yeah, it's not 230 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: a great uh sign when your child is afraid to 231 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: tell you anything. That when you're authentic sexual development and 232 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: it is like, what it's this thing where like there's 233 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: always a germ of truth in this thing, and the 234 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: germ of truth is that, well, yeah, teenagers aren't done 235 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: developing like they're they're not adults. They shouldn't be treated 236 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: entirely as adults. They don't have the kind of impulse 237 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: control that we expect adults to have. But the only 238 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: way they get that kind of control and become adults 239 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: is by being given greater and greater autonomy and power 240 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: over their own lives and information to make good choices 241 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: and space to make choices and mistakes like and I 242 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: don't think I don't think Ben ever got that. I 243 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 1: think Ben was directed like a like a fucking missile 244 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: from the time he was a child by his his 245 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: family to like become this. Uh So I guess I 246 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: get why he agrees with that, but it is it's 247 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: this terror you see in Kay's book and in Ben's 248 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: book about like giving teenagers a chance to just like 249 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: be themselves and figure out who that is. That that 250 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: that to them is like not just scary but like 251 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: obviously abusive. Is their attitude towards just like yeah, it 252 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: can should be allowed to figure it out for themselves, 253 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: which I mean, I think is the basis of a 254 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: healthy society. I think, honestly, I think that's the as 255 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: someone has zero children. Um. I think that's the thing 256 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 1: that seems the hardest about having a teenager is so 257 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: much of their understanding is so advanced, but they're not 258 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: done developing yet. Their brain will keep changing well into 259 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: their twenties, so to treat them as full on adults 260 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: is wrong. That's why we don't date teenagers unless we're 261 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: morally corrupt. Um. And it is also why when teenagers 262 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: get accused of crimes. It's a different thing. Your brain 263 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: is not really able to to um make the same 264 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: decisions and understand consequences and understand priorities in the same way, 265 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: and an adult brain is that is what that is. 266 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: So I'm sure the hard thing about raising a teenager 267 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: is walking that line of like, I want you to 268 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: be safe, but also I want you to be a 269 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: person that learns how to make your own decisions. And 270 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: it seems like Ben thinks the safest thing is to 271 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: never let anyone make any decisions and then that way 272 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: they will learn everything they need to know. Well, actually 273 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: he thinks the safest thing is to lie to them. Well, 274 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: same thing. Yeah, it's so. He quotes Dr Drew Pinsky, 275 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: host of Love Line, when she says, as a pure program, 276 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the sort of scare tactics that are used with abstinence 277 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: only education really don't seem to work. And this is 278 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: some of there's a lot of statistics backing this up. 279 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: Abstinence only education does not reduce the number of teens 280 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: fucking each other, team pregnancies, or st like. It's not good. Uh, 281 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: it's fine to tell kids that it's okay to be abstinent. 282 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: That's perfectly reasonable, but like abstinence only education is not 283 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: reasonable and doesn't work. And there's a lot of documentation, 284 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: so many studies that prove that, Yeah, I mean, but 285 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 1: Dr Drew comes across as the good guy in this 286 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 1: because he which Here's here's how Big responds to Dr Drew. Yes, 287 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: using scare tactics is wrong in most situations, but when 288 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: the subject cannot comprehend the harmful consequences of an action 289 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: not yet taken, then fears an appropriate motivator to inhibit 290 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: such an action. It's always comical to watch a parent 291 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: engage a two year old child in a socratic dialogue 292 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: about why the kid can't cross the street without an 293 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: adult present. A two year old child can't understand the 294 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: concept of death, just as a ten year old child 295 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: can't understand the crucial emotional loss desensitization suffered as a 296 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 1: result of sex without rules. Fear of consequences, whether those 297 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: consequences are spiritual or physical, is a critical component to 298 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,400 Speaker 1: teaching restraint. The funk is sex without rules, sex with that. 299 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: That's because it's it's one of those things like kids 300 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: were just like naturally doing S and M without safe words, 301 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: because that's what it sounds like, you know, because and 302 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: perfectly I think that it is both would be both 303 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: consistent with conservatism and also in a thing that no 304 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: human being could agree with. Is if you just said 305 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: ten year old shouldn't be having sex, they're not ready 306 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: to have sex statement add percent of reasonable people agree 307 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: with that. Doesn't say that he understands they can't handle 308 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: sex without rules. Like it's kind of scary that he's 309 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: making that distinction, that he's like had erastic leap. Ten 310 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: year olds might be having rulest sex. I don't think 311 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: dan year old should be fucking period. Bit like what 312 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 1: kind of rules would make it okay them out to 313 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: dinner for first done by them? POKM Well, I mean, 314 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if if this is what Ben is saying, 315 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,239 Speaker 1: I think he's just a bad writer. But like one 316 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: of the obvious things that like, it's actually very easy 317 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: to marry twelve fourteen year olds as an adult in 318 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 1: a lot of US states, Uh if the parents agree, 319 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: and it's specifically because they were religions where that chunks 320 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: of Christianity in the US where ship like that happens, 321 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: where like fourteen year olds getting married off and nobody 322 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: on the right is fighting to stop it because it's 323 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: part of their culture. Um, to marry off children. It's 324 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: not like you say what you want about it. They don't. 325 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: They don't fight that ship. Um. Not that they aren't 326 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: Christians who fight that ship. But like the right as 327 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: an organized political force is making no in roads to 328 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: stop these like weird, fucking religious kind of culti marriages 329 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: that happen all over the fucking country. Um, it's great, 330 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: it's good ship, Sophia lucky. Oh, he brings up Katie again. 331 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: He takes a shot at He takes a shot at 332 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: our girl, Katie. How I'm sure, Katie, if you're listening, 333 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: if you're the I think Yale student who been Shapiro 334 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: interviewed about sex. First off, you did great. Second hit 335 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: us up. I'm really curious about how that conversation with 336 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: Ben went. Agreed, And also, way to just keep your 337 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: head about yourself, Katie, when questioned, sorry you had to 338 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: talk to Ben Shapiro about your sex life, that that 339 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: can't have been easy. Good for your mental health or 340 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: your sex life. Yeah. Uh. Social liberals also argue, as 341 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: Katie does, that kids will have sex sooner or later, 342 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: so it's better to prepare them for it while they're young. 343 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: This kind of cynical resignation has less to do with 344 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: realism than with promoting a certain political agenda. In reality, 345 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: social liberals abandoned determinism whatever it conflicts with their moral outlook. 346 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: They say that educating kids about cigarette use means telling 347 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: them to say no under all circumstances, instead of teaching 348 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: them that if they do decide the smoke, they should 349 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: use filters to minimize their health roots, Ben, how are 350 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 1: you gonna buy cigarettes without filth and in less? Ben 351 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: Shapiro thinks there's a shipload of third graders out there 352 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 1: rolling their own cigarettes. He's like the image of their 353 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: strict pal mall community. Just a bunch of kids standing 354 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: around the stickball pitch like one handed, rolling cigarettes, smoking 355 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: them with a fastened yards stare. I mean, America, that's 356 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: the kind of show you gotta watch out for. Yeah, yeah, 357 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: I mean when he gets coal mining legalized for children again, 358 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 1: there will be a lot of a lot of seven 359 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: year olds one handed rolling their cigarettes as they wait 360 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: to go down on the fucking elevator into the dark. Yeah, 361 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: but please don't let them have sex without rules, because 362 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,639 Speaker 1: as long as they're not fucking Ben's fined with it 363 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: sex at seven. It also been telling kids to just 364 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 1: say no to drugs, including cigarettes, isn't a liberal thing. 365 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: That's that's all of American politics for like twenty years. 366 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: Republicans and Democrats were locked step up step about that shit. 367 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: Like the Democrat Joe Biden was a big part of 368 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: the whole mandatory minimum. Should you tell them you want 369 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: to pretend to me that conservatives and liberals were not 370 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: both lockstep about just say no policies, I'll call you 371 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 1: a fucking liar, Ben Shapiro. Ron Paul's the only guy 372 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: who gets who's I don't think falls into that on 373 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: the right, because whatever else you can say about him, 374 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: he was consistent on that. Um. Yeah, it's fucking wow, 375 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: Ben Um. Social liberals want to prevent children from knowing 376 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 1: anything about gun use instead of training children to use 377 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,400 Speaker 1: firearms responsibly. Apparently kids won't use guns sooner or later 378 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:44,239 Speaker 1: if we tell them no. Well, number one, I agree, Ben, 379 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 1: there's four hundred million guns in the country. Kids should 380 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: probably be given a little bit more instruction on like 381 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 1: what they are and how they work. Their basic aspects 382 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 1: of American life there's an argument to you made, but 383 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 1: most kids will never have a gun. Most Americans don't 384 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: own guns. Hundred percent of Americans own genitals, and pretty 385 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: close to a percent of American adults have sex at 386 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: some point. Um, there's just not like a comparison between 387 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: the two and for another thing like a gun is 388 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: a thing that you can buy, sex is a thing 389 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: that human beings kind of inherently do to make more people. 390 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: It's like, there's not comparing the two. Fundamental. Yeah, it's 391 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: like saying like, well, we don't teach kids how to 392 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: drive in school, but we teach them nutrition. It's like, well, yeah, 393 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: because not all kids are gonna own cars, but they'll 394 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: all eat. Like you could argue maybe we should have 395 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: something in high school that like teaches kids about car 396 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,479 Speaker 1: like whatever. That's like, I'm not going to fight against it, 397 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: but like one thing is more basic than the other. Been. Um, 398 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: you also can't kill anybody. Well it's harder to Um, yeah, 399 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: it can be done. It can be done. Um. Most 400 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: social liberals would prefer that kids be sexualized younger so 401 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: that they can become or tolerant of deviant lifestyles and 402 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: what everyone used to acknowledge his immoral choices. The liberal 403 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: sexual legenda underlies the teaching of sex education, as David Campos, 404 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: author of Sex Youth and Sex Education, a reference handbook, proclaims, 405 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: to achieve a sexually healthy lifestyle, youth must acquire a 406 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: positive and comfortable attitude about sex. Franktin fact based discussions 407 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: about topics once considered heaboo or essential abortions, condoms, masturbation, 408 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: oral sex, and hoposexuality are among the topics to be 409 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: found in comprehensive sex education programs. Obviously that that fucking 410 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 1: terrifies Ben um and he responds to that by saying 411 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: Katie's statements that she can't remember any moral judgments being 412 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: made sums up today's sex education because Ben thinks that 413 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: masturbation and condoms and homosexuality and oral sex we does. 414 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: He does thank girl sex as a moral clearly, anytime 415 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: anyone comes, he thinks it's immoral essentially, Yeah, unless unless 416 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: you're trying to make Ben Shapiro's kids, which he only 417 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: feels a little bad about. He doesn't want you to 418 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: come then either, Yeah, he doesn't, and then the kids 419 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: are tainted forever with the sin of pleasure. Who wants that, Yeah, 420 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: you want to become joyless automaton's just like you. Yeah. 421 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: Oh boy. So Ben now quotes another woman. He's he's 422 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: carefull to let us know. She's a twenty three year 423 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: old black woman from Harvard Law April Cornell. Um, Wow, 424 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: you have to meet a black person for this. He 425 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: really did well, he says he did. I don't actually 426 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 1: know of any of these are real people. Um. But 427 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: she says being a teenager sucks. Teenagers have way more 428 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: choice today than they had fifty years ago. I have 429 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 1: way more choice than my parents did when they were 430 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen. It never would have occurred to my 431 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: mom not to decide not to have sex or not 432 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,919 Speaker 1: or decide not to use drugs. There are decisions I 433 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: had to make as opposed to this is the way 434 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: it is. I think kids are being forced into choices 435 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: they're not ready to handle. Um. Which is an interesting attitude, 436 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: I guess. But I don't uh like I think makes 437 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: much sense. Um. I guess I disagree with you, April, 438 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: and the statistics disagree with you too, because again, kids 439 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: are choosing to have sex less. UM. I wonder if 440 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: I can find April Cornell if she's an actual person. 441 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 1: She probably changed her name after her it came out 442 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: in this book. Yeah, I would want to, um, oh, 443 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: this may not be a real person. Um I found it. 444 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: I I typed in April Cornell Harvard because Ben let 445 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: us know that she worked at Harvard, And the only 446 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:27,400 Speaker 1: result that came up was Harvard Crimson article about April Cornell, 447 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: which is a store that sells like New England aesthetic clothing. 448 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: Oh god, I wonder if Ben Shapira just just learned that, 449 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: and yeah that he knew that was like the store 450 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: in New England the Kaiser Sosa. Yeah, yeah, it's like 451 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: a store chain. Um. Oh no, And there is an 452 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: actual April Cornell who's an artist entrepreneur. She was born 453 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: in Montreal, Canada, and she's pretty white. I and I 454 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: I don't think has said any of the things been 455 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: but this may not be a real person. Was Ann Taylor, 456 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: and then right after her, Diane von Furstenberg. It was 457 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: that's fascinating. I wonder, like, I can't comprehensively say that 458 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: that's not a real person. But it's very funny that 459 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: when I type that into Harvard, I don't get any 460 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: kind of alumni or anything. I get, uh, the from 461 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: his friend Lane Bryant and also his friends Dylan, and 462 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: he quotes her next that I'm I wonder if this 463 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: is real one sec. I'm trying to dig into this now. 464 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: Um does does his friend Walmart or anything? Um? Because 465 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: he quotes the next after he talks to April, he 466 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: quotes Michelle McCoy her her roommate apparently or friend. And yep, 467 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm not finding any any references to her as working 468 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: at Harvard at all either um or being a student 469 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: at Harvard at all either. So so nothing nothing comes 470 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 1: up on either of these people. I don't know that 471 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: I think they're real. I wonder if been made up 472 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: all of these people. I wonder if Katie's even real, 473 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: or perhaps Katie's real. And he felt like he had 474 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: to make up other Harvard students or other Ivy League 475 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: students to like make a different point, because they're saying, like, 476 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: here's what he here's the quote he puts in Michelle's mouth. 477 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: I think there's more a lot more pressure because so 478 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: many things are accepted. There's already enough pressure and teenagers 479 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: to be cool and social, and when you get rid 480 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,680 Speaker 1: of any moral constraints that weigh upon them and makes 481 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: life a lot harder. I don't know that. I think 482 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: a person who's not been Shapiro would say that that 483 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: doesn't actually sound like a thing a person would say. 484 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that Shapiro may have invented 485 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: people for his book. I can't I can't prove that 486 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: this is This is the only way to theory. If 487 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: you are any of these people, if you are any 488 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: of these people, if you are Ann Taylor, you are 489 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: any of these people, please let us know, because the 490 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: funniest thing would be if Katie's real, but he just 491 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: invented these others to have a foil to her because 492 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: she was so reasonable. But you know who is having 493 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: a lot of sex, Sophia, purchase these goods of services. 494 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: They are these ads are about to are about to 495 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: flow into your ears on a river of Come. Like. 496 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: That's that's what That's what, that's what the products. Wait, 497 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: look closer, it's me. I'm on a canoe. I'm manning 498 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 1: the river of Come. You need a special paddle for 499 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: a come canoe. It's it's different viscosity anyway, we call 500 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: it a new Robert. I'm sorry that's merge sale, the 501 00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: new sale sale, the behind the bastards. Hey, I know 502 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: how great your fans are. If someone would like to 503 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: draw this this come new, come on, give us a 504 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: come now, give us draw us a come new. As 505 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: you listen to these ads, who's into your your oral cavity? 506 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: Like a you know, like come here we go? Ah 507 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: we are bad? How's how's how's that? How's everyone doing? 508 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: You know? Thanks for checking in a lot of change 509 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: since five seconds ago. So scarred for life, It's been 510 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: a lot. We talked about coming good amount um sure did? 511 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: Oh wow? Okay, so it has been brings up this 512 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: narrow the National Abortions Rights Action League or whatever, um 513 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: like a campaign they carried off in the bush ears 514 00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: to like um uh like order try to order a 515 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 1: chastity belt from George Bush um, which was I guess 516 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: some sort of campaign they were going um. And Bin's 517 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: response to that is the choice not to have sex 518 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: is apparently not a real choice. A real choice is 519 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: whether to use a condom or whether to get an 520 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: abortion after having unprotected sex. And like, no, Ben, it's 521 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: not the The choice not to have sex isn't a choice. 522 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: It's that saying that the only choice should be to 523 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: not have sex is not a choice. You should have 524 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 1: a choice to have sex or not have sex, to 525 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: have sex unprotected, or using a condom, to get an abortion, 526 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: or to carry a fetus to term. You should have those, 527 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: all of those choices. Every person should have all of 528 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: those choice. Don't act. I'm not saying those are the 529 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: only choices. You can come on someone's tents like, there's 530 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: a lot of choice. You can use a dental Damn, 531 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: they're harder to find than you'd think, but you can 532 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: use you have you can use them harder to find. 533 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: What's not it's not a real choice. Just saying to 534 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: choose abstinence, that's not a choice. That's giving someone no option. 535 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: It's just just say no is not a choice. Just 536 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: because you yourself are not a person that experiences horny nous, 537 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: which mean then I'm not judging you for it, but 538 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: you're judging everyone who is horny and on the behalf 539 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: of the horny and the very horny. I am very offended. 540 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. Horny action. Now, I don't know, 541 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: I think I think Look, all I'm saying is I 542 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: think grocery store should have special parking for horny people. 543 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: I agree, this is what horny America looks like. Yeah, 544 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: and if you park there and you're not horny, people 545 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: should give you shipped for it. What do we want 546 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: You don't love horny parking? When do we want it? Now? Hey, 547 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: you see this guy just pulled into the horny parking. 548 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: He look horny to you. No, he doesn't look like 549 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: he's fucked in his life. Him horny lynch mobs beating 550 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 1: people who are horning it up in the street. He 551 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 1: looks flastened to her panties are drying, hitter. He's driving 552 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a Hyundai Sonata. No horny person ever drove a Snata? 553 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: Was that? Akia? Get out of here. You can absolutely 554 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: be horny and Akia, you can. I think that's the 555 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: only way you can be in that is that is 556 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: the car for fucking um. So yeah. Sex in the 557 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: classroom is the next section we are we are just 558 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: blazing through this. It's easy enough to find anecdotal evidence 559 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: regarding the dangers of comprehensive sex head young teens being 560 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: taught about the benefits of oral sex, masturbation, and homosexual activity, 561 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: all without parental notification. The Massachusetts Department of Health creating 562 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: a video in E. Nine explaining what to do before, during, 563 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: and after sex. That's a that's a bad thing to Ben, 564 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: just like, yeah, that there's that there's a public healthy 565 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: after earthquake. Sure the earthquake will take place. And it's 566 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: like he's framing this as like a decadent modern values 567 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: pushing sex, Like my grandma was like seventeen when she 568 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: got married, Like what do you been? Teenagers have been 569 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 1: fucking since there have been teenagers. We might as well 570 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: make sure they know the basics about what to do. 571 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: Like it's like if every teenager was born with a 572 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: gun grafted onto their hand, I would be like, yeah, 573 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 1: we definitely need to have gun training in school. They've 574 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 1: all got one. They can't be removed. Every teenager has 575 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: a gun permanently attached to their bodies. We should probably 576 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 1: treat teach them how to use it. It's kind of 577 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 1: like that Been, does that make sense to you? Just 578 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,240 Speaker 1: comparing it to guns? Make it reasonable? Picture a gun 579 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 1: dick if you Ben, imagine the bullets are come, Ben, 580 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 1: can you imagine this? I mean he doesn't know how 581 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: to use guns or his dick. So it's it's true 582 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: imagine you're another human. Yeah, that's a big imagination. If 583 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: you could do that, he could not be this much 584 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: of a right wing piece of ship. Yeah. Oh fun, 585 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 1: So we get we get a little bit of history here. 586 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: Ben goes through the history of sex ed and talks 587 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: about who is initially sex hygiene, which is which is 588 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: like the first like sex ed sort of campaigns were 589 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: about like venereal diseases in particular, a lot of times 590 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: spreading among soldiers and like trying to tell people like, hey, stop, 591 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: here's how to not get syphilis. Right, Like that's that 592 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: is kind of where like a lot of it came. Um. 593 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: But then he he still gets it wrong, um, because 594 00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: he talks about how teaching of sex hygiene was largely 595 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: incorrectly couched in moral terms. The only way to cure 596 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,879 Speaker 1: the sexual evils thoroughly, the only way to dig them 597 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: up at the roots was to prescribe the same standard 598 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: of morality for a man as for a woman. Men 599 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: must be as chased as women, and like, no, Ben 600 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,120 Speaker 1: is actually just tapping about one set. He's talking about 601 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 1: guys like Harvey Kellogg, who did say that we all 602 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: have to be chased, and that like you should do 603 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: everything you can to not have sexual feelings. But that's 604 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 1: separate from a lot of the medical history of sex education, 605 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: which while there was a moral element, it was mainly 606 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: because like, you are going to damage your body, and 607 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 1: you are, you know, a member of this society or 608 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: a soldier in this military, and it's like your responsibility 609 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: to not danger yourself, like there was anyway, it's just 610 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: been again deletes all nuance from his his recollection of 611 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: the historical record. Um, because he's a goblin. Um. Yeah, 612 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: then we uh we get onto Kinsey. I'm gonna I'm 613 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: gonna skip through the history stuff because I'm gonna guess 614 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,120 Speaker 1: Ben gets all of it more or less that incomplete. Um. 615 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: Today's sex set experience, for most members of the porn 616 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: generation is wedded to the idea of permissiveness and tolerance 617 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: for all sorts of behaviors as inherently sexual beings. The 618 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: argument goes, our sexuality should not and cannot be contained 619 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: by any system of morality. Sexuality is as much a 620 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: natural characteristic is race. Oh boy, oh please please let 621 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: another ignoramus fucking talk about race. Yeah. Um, he zooms 622 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: right over this because he again he's talking about like 623 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: how shitty it is. Like one of the things he 624 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: strikes as being bad is that no form of sexual 625 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: expression may be condemned and all must be taught, which like, man, 626 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: I went through sex ed in the period you're writing about, 627 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: and we barely learned about like sexual intercourse. There was 628 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: no talk about blow jobs. There was no talk about 629 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: like anal sex, other than like the vague reference that 630 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,320 Speaker 1: like a condom is always a good thing to have 631 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:43,440 Speaker 1: if you're having sex. Like this idea that kids are 632 00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: being instructed in elaborate sexual acts has like no basis 633 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: in actual sex ed programs. And not just that, but 634 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: even the knowledge we received about sexual organs was wildly 635 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,279 Speaker 1: like patchy. Yeah, pat would be a good term for it, 636 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I don't think that most people 637 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: who went through sex said could tell you where the 638 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: fallopian tubes are, exactly how many eggs a woman has. 639 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: I can tell you because any time, let my friend 640 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: Valerie has a joke about how many eggs a woman makes, 641 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: and you can tell by only the women laughing, and 642 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: not even all of them, that men do not know 643 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: how many eggs women make in a lifetime. And I 644 00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: know whow I'm saying this. Men are googling this right now, 645 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: and that's the should google it because it's important. Um. 646 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: The point is we don't learn enough. We don't learn enough. 647 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: My best guy friend, only a couple of years ago, 648 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: I found out he's he's forty. I just found out 649 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 1: that he doesn't. He thought that when a woman gets pregnant, 650 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: she throws up one time. That's how she knows she's pregnant, 651 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: and then she's done because of movies, because that's how 652 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: every movie lets you know that. The characters at all, 653 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 1: the women that he's ever heard complaining about morning sickness, 654 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: he thought they meant the one time they thought, oh 655 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: my god. Yeah, that's that's fascinating because that tells you 656 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: so much about like, oh so you just like weren't 657 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 1: around any pregnant people when you were when you were 658 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: a kid, Like yeah, I don't know. Still, it's just 659 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: completely strange. But that is how little all of us know. Yeah, 660 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 1: and it's like, I mean, men don't often know much 661 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: about their own sexual organs. It's just that thankfully operation 662 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:42,880 Speaker 1: is generally pretty simple. Um. And uh yeah, just the 663 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,320 Speaker 1: level of like basic ignorance of really important facts of 664 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: sex and of STDs of like stuff like herpies like um, 665 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: and how it's spread and like how common it is, 666 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: Like that's the we're terrible, like the idea like not 667 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,920 Speaker 1: only has been wrong about like what kids are actually doing, um, 668 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: but he's completely off about the degree to which any 669 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: of the education that does exist is explicit because it's 670 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,520 Speaker 1: barely adequate in the best of situations. Like barely adequate 671 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: is like the gold standard for sex said in in 672 00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:22,280 Speaker 1: most public schools. Um. And it's like it's telling because 673 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: he he knows more or less what's being taught. He 674 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 1: just thinks that it's obscene that like that the sixteen 675 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: year old would know at all the basic process by 676 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: which two people have sexual intercourse, or the idea that 677 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: anal sex is an option, Like the fact that they 678 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: know that is aborrent to him. Um, it's not a 679 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: matter of like kids being shown pornography, it's that they 680 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 1: should not know these are options. And it's I think 681 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of it is that like if they don't 682 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 1: know that it's possible to have gay sex, then been 683 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,400 Speaker 1: thinks they won't be gay. Yeah exactly. Yeah, And that 684 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: if they didn't know that trans was a thing, they 685 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't be trans Yeah. Yeah, it's the like that. That 686 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: is why he's so angry at kid is being taught things. Um, 687 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: because again they're not doing things. They're not doing sex 688 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: at like sexual stuff at any kind of a higher rate. 689 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 1: We know this, and I have to think Ben knows 690 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: this unless he's even more incompetent than I think he is, 691 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: because his real problem is that people are expressing themselves 692 00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: physically in ways that make him uncomfortable because he's a 693 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: fucking goblin and he doesn't think that should be allowed. Um. 694 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: And you see that at the end of this segment 695 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,200 Speaker 1: when he's talking about like the immorality of sex at Again, 696 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,399 Speaker 1: these radical sex educators are correct in one sense. Sex 697 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: shouldn't be shameful, but just because people have natural desires 698 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,920 Speaker 1: and drives doesn't legitimate those natural desires and drives in 699 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:50,759 Speaker 1: all contexts, especially outside the context of marriage. I think 700 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: the sigh is something Ben shapire. Here's a lot in 701 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: the bedroom, and here section this the attack on abstinence 702 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: begins with him just being very wrong. Again, the public 703 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: policy brilliance of comprehensive sex education is it's self justifying nature. 704 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: Sex education is used skyrocketing rates of manereal disease, teen pregnancy, 705 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 1: and sexual Immorality is an excuse to teach its panoramic 706 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: view of sexuality. Unfortunately, there's a rising, rising threat looming 707 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 1: on the horizon for sex educators. Abstinence education. If morality 708 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: can can can somehow be infused back into sex education, 709 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: if the tolerance for all sexual activity mission may be 710 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: discarded safely. The Kinsians are out of a job. Okay, 711 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what he thinks. How many jobs he 712 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: thinks are in the Kinseyan community. Yeah, it's not as 713 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: yelling about abstinence is much more lucrative. I literally know 714 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: the curator curator at the Kinsey Institute. I can tell 715 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 1: you there. Yeah, also shout out Rebecca. Good, good for you, Rebecca, 716 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:04,240 Speaker 1: and yeah um. The social liberals claim that abstinence education 717 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,960 Speaker 1: doesn't work because, of course, abstinence is impossible. Denying our 718 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: young people accurate information about sexual health will not prevent 719 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: unintended pregnancies or the spread of sexually transmitted disease diseases. 720 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: It will, however, prevent them from making responsible and informed 721 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: decisions about their health and futures, growled William Smith, Director 722 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: of public policy at some organization called Seekers that deals 723 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: with sex said, I love that Ben has to have 724 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: like he said, what he's saying is so reasonable, but 725 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: that Ben has to color it by saying he growled it. Um, 726 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: it's very funny. Yeah, uh yeah, it's um okay, So 727 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: he has he cites another student. Um, so this is 728 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: and Kim of the University of Washington, and this this 729 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: person who been says exists apparently said this within this 730 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: culture where sex sells everything from shampoo to gum. George 731 00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: Bush has proposed doubling the amount of federal funding for 732 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: absence only sex education in the classroom. It's a farce 733 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 1: to assume that exclusively teaching no sex is safe sex 734 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: will prevent teens from having it. This message resolves in 735 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: the real world, where teens, regardless of whether they're sexually active, 736 00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,399 Speaker 1: I want to know and talk about sex. So that's 737 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,840 Speaker 1: him citing someone that I'm sure he disagrees with that. 738 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: I still don't know if I think that's a person 739 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,399 Speaker 1: other than Ben. I wonder if you made I'm gonna 740 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,719 Speaker 1: see if I can find evidence that this person. Good luck. 741 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 1: I just want to know they're sitting right next to 742 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,640 Speaker 1: Ann Taylor. So don't don't you even worry about that? Oh, well, 743 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: maybe there's a there's an assistant manager at Sunrise Dental 744 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:48,400 Speaker 1: who graduated from the University of Washington recently. Um, you 745 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go ahead and say that I 746 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,399 Speaker 1: think and Kim might be a real person. Yea, Ben, 747 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: should doctor actually talk to human beings? Yeah? And and 748 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: so Yeah, I may have made there may be some 749 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 1: real people in this fascinating I do believe that Ann 750 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,759 Speaker 1: Kim as a person. Um, so that that that me 751 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,640 Speaker 1: and and Kim seems to be saying a reasonable thing. Um, 752 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 1: even though I don't, I don't. I still don't know 753 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: how much I believe that she said sex sells everything 754 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,800 Speaker 1: from shampoo to gum. Um, but maybe maybe that just 755 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,920 Speaker 1: seems like such a Ben Shapiro line. Well, I was 756 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:26,359 Speaker 1: just gonna say also that, um, yes, yes, the extremely 757 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: sexual Gump commercials. I mean, I'm thinking of double mint twins, right, bubblesious? 758 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:41,919 Speaker 1: What's the sexiest gump commercials? Big League Chew? Nothing makes 759 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: me want nothing makes me want to fuck like Big 760 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,320 Speaker 1: League Chew. I thought that was a candy. It is, 761 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: it's it's gum. Oh, but it's gone and to Candy. Uh, 762 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:58,839 Speaker 1: it's it's it's gone and to Candy. Yeah, I've never 763 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,880 Speaker 1: had big league ch um. Alright. So the next line 764 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 1: that Ben has at the end of this, during this 765 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: abstinence section is the truth is it's too early to 766 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,839 Speaker 1: tell whether abstinence education can work at a wide level. 767 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,439 Speaker 1: There have been no conclusive studies one way for another 768 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: in the studies that it's funny because he says, and 769 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: the studies that do exist conflict with each other. Now, 770 00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: I found a two thousand and eleven study, UM, it's 771 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: pretty fucking conclusive. Yeah. I was working at Planned Parenthood 772 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: in two thousand four. It was already something that everybody knew. Yeah. 773 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: I found a two thousand eleven study UM from the 774 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,920 Speaker 1: US National Library of Medicine UM that seems to be 775 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,919 Speaker 1: pretty comprehensive and includes the line the data clearly show 776 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,880 Speaker 1: show clearly that abstinence only education is a state policy, 777 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 1: is ineffective in preventing teenage pregnancy, and may actually be 778 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: contributing to the high teenage pregnancy rates in the US. UM. Yeah, 779 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,080 Speaker 1: So uh, there's one study. And then I found another 780 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 1: study from two thousand ten UM that I think is 781 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: like his uh, like his best case study which is 782 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,400 Speaker 1: from two that UM and the Archives of Pediatric Adolescent Medicine, 783 00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,280 Speaker 1: which found that abstinence only intervention was effective in getting 784 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: very young teens to delay sexual initiation. But the program 785 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,280 Speaker 1: is not the same as the abstinence until marriage programs 786 00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: funded by the Bush administration. Um. But it's very funny 787 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,400 Speaker 1: that he's like, there's no conclusive studies in the studies 788 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: that do exist conflict with each other. Well, is it 789 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: possible that the studies that say that it doesn't work 790 00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: are pretty conclusive and then there's some ship studies that 791 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: say that it does work because one study the study 792 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,040 Speaker 1: he cites, Um. Yeah, the study that he cites is uh, 793 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: which claims that women who pledge to remain virgins until 794 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: marriage are less likely to have a child out of wedlock. 795 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: That comes from the Heritage Foundation. Yeah, which is a 796 00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: right wing think tank that is not at all incredible 797 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:03,879 Speaker 1: unbiased source on anything. Yeah. Um, they are not scientists. 798 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 1: They are right wing ideologues paid to find things that 799 00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: argue for conservative causes, ding ding ding. And if I'm 800 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: not mistaken, yeah, yeah, we'll give that later. Um. But 801 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 1: they do publish a lot of stuff on on abstinence 802 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,879 Speaker 1: only education UM. And in fact I think I found 803 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: the report, yeah, from two thousand two. So that's also funny, 804 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,800 Speaker 1: is that, like this thing he's citing is evidence that 805 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,760 Speaker 1: it works from two thousand two. We have two thousand, 806 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: ten and eleven studies, UM that I found in like 807 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: a second of googling that showed that there's like it's 808 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: not only it's either ineffective the programs he suggests or 809 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:46,040 Speaker 1: the biggest studies says apt actively harmful. UM. But again 810 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 1: Ben doesn't actually like he does very selective research. And 811 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: in fact, I keep saying I can't see anything in 812 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:56,040 Speaker 1: this two book. He keeps citing shipped from two thousand two, UM, 813 00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:59,440 Speaker 1: when there's data two thousand ten, eleven thirteen, two thousand 814 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: nine studies I found, Like there's a lot more two 815 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: thousand three, two thousand three, that's all where it's from. 816 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,040 Speaker 1: It Again, that's a decade ago at this point in 817 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,719 Speaker 1: a field where there's rapidly being progress and a lot 818 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: of studies being made. In addition to the fact that 819 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,759 Speaker 1: like he's trying to talk like the kids that there's 820 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: data on from two thousand three aren't the generation he's 821 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: primarily writing about um in two thousand thirteen, because those 822 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,040 Speaker 1: people are all college graduates in their mid twenties by 823 00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:31,880 Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen. UM, I don't. It's just it's so gross. 824 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:38,920 Speaker 1: It's like so comprehensively manipulating data is also like very 825 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,279 Speaker 1: oh good, And now we get into there's a whole 826 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: we get into. This ends with a whole rant on 827 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton. There's a subhet chapter called The President's Good 828 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:53,920 Speaker 1: Night blow Jobs, talking about the Clinton impeachment scandal that oh, 829 00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: he's it's just like the idea that it's this thing 830 00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,080 Speaker 1: that like, despite all of the fund ship that Clinton 831 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: has actually did, the word thing is that Bill got 832 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: a blowjob, um, which is like, there's a lot that's 833 00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: messed up about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky, primarily the 834 00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,920 Speaker 1: power and balance between a young twenty year old intern 835 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: and the president of the United States and fucking ruining 836 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,799 Speaker 1: her life for them for decades to come because her 837 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 1: name became associated with this thing that somehow made him 838 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,879 Speaker 1: be cool and somehow made her be a dumb slut patriarchy. 839 00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: That's how even even within just the like just the subject, 840 00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 1: if you're like ignoring the fact that he let the 841 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 1: r want in genocide happen, or fucked up so badly 842 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: in Bosnia, or was presided over a campaign of sanctions 843 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: that killed hundreds of thousands. Interactly, if you if you're 844 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 1: if you're dropping all of that by the wayside, right, 845 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: and if you're just focusing on the sex part of 846 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, all that stuff you mentioned perfectly valid things 847 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,480 Speaker 1: to criticize Clinton over really solid evidence of arms, that 848 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: of harms that his sexual behavior had. You could also 849 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: talk about the very credible sexual assault allegations against him. 850 00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,200 Speaker 1: That's not what Ben finds most offensive. Here's been Here's 851 00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,480 Speaker 1: the bottom line. Without the Lewinsky scandal, millions of children 852 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,359 Speaker 1: would not have had to hear about this issue until 853 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:12,200 Speaker 1: reaching maturity, that issue being blow jobs instead oral sex 854 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: and mast with cigars. Yeah, issue on yourself. More than that, 855 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 1: it's the things like, oh, you want to criticize Bill 856 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,560 Speaker 1: Clinton for like his his sexual like behaviors. Like absolutely, 857 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,000 Speaker 1: there's like, yeah, let's let's let's talk about that. But 858 00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,960 Speaker 1: there's a lot that's like really fucked up that he 859 00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: did that we should attack him for. Oh, you're angry 860 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:37,360 Speaker 1: because kids heard about blow jobs, Like that's what's offensive 861 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,880 Speaker 1: about Bill clinton sex scandal to you is that like 862 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: kids became aware of the existence of oral sex? Um 863 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: you loser? Yeah, Oh my god, wow, and even quotes 864 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: that's incredible. So he quotes a letter from agonized mother 865 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,680 Speaker 1: of four, Elizabeth Avery Shelton, who wrote a letter to 866 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:06,480 Speaker 1: the boy Elizabeth Die burying me with the inscription. This 867 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: woman wrote a letter to the editor of the Seattle 868 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 1: Times and stated, I would like it to be known 869 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: before her movie and book deal comes out, that I 870 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,440 Speaker 1: want an apology from Lewinsky for being solely responsible for 871 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: me having to explain oral sex to my four children, 872 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,280 Speaker 1: ages twelve to eight. Now, BN does note that Clinton 873 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: owes parents and apology as well, but like, what the fuck? Like, 874 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 1: why wouldn't she be solely responsible? What the fuck? Not 875 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: that within the grand scheme of like things presidents do 876 00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,000 Speaker 1: that are bad, The fact that kids learned blowjobs exists 877 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 1: isn't on the scale. It's just nowhere near um. But 878 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 1: the fact that he's that, this woman's like Monica Lewinsky, 879 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: is solely responsible for me learning about blow jobs, It's 880 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,080 Speaker 1: so sad. I feel sorry. That's fucked up, Like imagine 881 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: being that person. Of course, everything so fucked up. There's 882 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: so many people like that who think, like, who look 883 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,719 Speaker 1: at Bill Clinton's sex scan, will be like, well, if 884 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: it weren't for her, we wouldn't be hearing about this. 885 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: He's the president. She's twinning in an intern. He is 886 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,200 Speaker 1: the leader of the country. Like, and you're putting most 887 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: of the blame on her. What do you think is 888 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: you know what, shout out Monica fucking Lewinsky because yeah, 889 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 1: up having a good life. So good for you, good 890 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: for you. Uh, and I don't think capitalized on blow 891 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,800 Speaker 1: jobs in any way. Just it's so close started a 892 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: purse line. Yeah, good for her, Monica. You can join 893 00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: that other lady who's just a clothing brand that's been 894 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,840 Speaker 1: quoted in this next book? Did you do a second adverb? 895 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 1: I I'm going to do one right now, Sophie, because 896 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,760 Speaker 1: you know what time it is? Goods and services? Goods 897 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 1: and services. That's right, mother, who's uh, we're back all right? 898 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,920 Speaker 1: So let's uh, let's let's close out by Ben's section 899 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,560 Speaker 1: where eleven percent of the way into this book, Jesus Christ, 900 00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 1: there's just so much to talk about here. Um, parental abdication, 901 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,719 Speaker 1: comprehensive sex education, has taken power out of the hands 902 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: of parents. The current system has the schools teaching a 903 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 1: moral permissiveness and forcing parents with standards to unteach their 904 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,360 Speaker 1: own children, and parents have to become too lazy to 905 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,839 Speaker 1: do anything about it. Instead of opting their kids out 906 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: of sex set, it's easier for them to avoid the 907 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,720 Speaker 1: messy birds and bees conversation. Leave it to the government 908 00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: types to teach the kids about standards of morality. The 909 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: social liberals who have promuligated this antiparent system are pleased 910 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,800 Speaker 1: with the result. Their goal was never to allow parents 911 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,120 Speaker 1: the authority to teach their children. It was to show 912 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 1: for the God of tolerance, governments is the most easily 913 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,759 Speaker 1: available to liber don't have kids. Yeah, why does he 914 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 1: think liberals are any comfortable more comfortable talking to their 915 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,520 Speaker 1: kids than concern about sex and concern it's it's this 916 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: idea that like school teacher again, I went through sex 917 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:13,520 Speaker 1: said in this period there was no moral lessons whatsoever, 918 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,279 Speaker 1: and it was so incomplete that I then went to 919 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: my parents with questions because I didn't understand things, and 920 00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: I did not get good answers to them because my 921 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,120 Speaker 1: parents weren't comfortable discussing it. With me, like, which is 922 00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:29,000 Speaker 1: the problem, which is why kids do stupid shit because 923 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: they're not being taught to do things safely um or 924 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,480 Speaker 1: being taught to do things without shame or like, it's 925 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,479 Speaker 1: just it's all very frustrating. Um. And everything Ben says 926 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: is wrong. Uh yeah, I think you've got it. Yeah. 927 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: Well Sylvia, how are you? Uh, how are you doing? 928 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,120 Speaker 1: Dry as a boon? My friend, dry as a bone? 929 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: Oh good. I do want to note that at the 930 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 1: end of this chapter, Bid says that we're we're parents 931 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 1: are starting to wake up because a poll in two 932 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 1: thousand three showed strong support for abstinence education. Um. Again 933 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: all stuff from like a decade after this book is published. Um. Also, 934 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: like are you calling parents and you're like, hey, would 935 00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,440 Speaker 1: you rather your kid not be fucking? Because they're all 936 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:26,080 Speaker 1: going to say yes, yes, I don't oh absolutely. Uh yeah. 937 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:30,240 Speaker 1: Also of likely voters based on a planned parenthood study 938 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:34,040 Speaker 1: supports sex education in high school. Um. Let's see, here's 939 00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:41,000 Speaker 1: the Secrest survey. Uh yeah, okay, it's the same study. UM. 940 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,879 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a less biased source we can find, 941 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:46,440 Speaker 1: because I just want to see if he's well. Um. 942 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,399 Speaker 1: Texas voters support abstinence plus sex education, which is sex 943 00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:57,319 Speaker 1: education that is medically accurate and doesn't only talk about abstinence. Um, 944 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:01,239 Speaker 1: which seems better than what I probably got. So that's 945 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: overwhelmingly supported by three quarters of voters, including sixty of 946 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:10,840 Speaker 1: Republicans in Texas. Um, so, yeah, it does seem like 947 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:13,560 Speaker 1: Ben is wrong on that too. 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