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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Hanging out with you here on a Friday,

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Speaker 1: a football Friday, nonetheless, and we are so happy to

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Speaker 1: have you. Dan Byer alongside. He got my band Sam

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Speaker 1: Kinsel alongside. Of course, you have the one and only

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Speaker 1: Jason Stewart alongside. At some point we're going to get

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Speaker 1: into Jason's desire to have some radio shows stop making

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Speaker 1: predictions because they're sure to go wrong. We'll get into that.

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Speaker 1: We got a great show for you, including we'll have

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Speaker 1: a discussion on Kirk Signetti and the eleven point eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars per year that he's gonna receive from Indiana

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Speaker 1: that was announced yesterday during our show. So we got

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Speaker 1: a lot to get to. I want to start with

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Speaker 1: last night's Thursday night football game. If that's okay, I'm

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Speaker 1: not trying to diminish the Dodgers victory over the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: But it just hasn't been a competitive series. But I

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Speaker 1: have something on that for you, and it really does

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Speaker 1: play into my Clayton Kershaw take from last week. You're

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Speaker 1: like recycling takes like no, I like, here's what I like.

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Speaker 1: I like congruent takes, like congruent takes. Does that make

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Speaker 1: sense to you? Guys like like Danny, does that make sense?

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Speaker 1: A congruent tape meaning a take in one thing has

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Speaker 1: to fit a take in the other. I it frustrates

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Speaker 1: me when some guys will make one take, you know,

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Speaker 1: like hey, you got to hire an offensive mind, and

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Speaker 1: then two weeks later they're like, why'd you hire an

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter about his background. I like congruente if

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Speaker 1: you have a take, and again, you're allowed to change

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Speaker 1: your mind as well. It's one of the things we

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Speaker 1: try and do try to keep it real for you,

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Speaker 1: is sometimes we go like, hey, you know, I look

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Speaker 1: at this now, a week later, six weeks later, a

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Speaker 1: month later, six months later, and I have a different

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Speaker 1: like congruent takes, and my take on Clayton Kershaw is

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Speaker 1: much like my take on the Milwaukee Brewers. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that later in the show, but let's start with this.

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Speaker 1: I have been the most staunch defender of Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: I think, on network radio, and I'm also fair and

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Speaker 1: honest in that I thought what he did when he

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Speaker 1: when he never took the COVID vaccine and he blatantly

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Speaker 1: lied about it, I crushed him for it. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: disingenuous about it. And then when he got called then

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Speaker 1: he made it about the media, not about himself, when

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Speaker 1: all he had to say was like, yeah, I lied,

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Speaker 1: my bad. Let's move on. But if we pointed out

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Speaker 1: the things about Aaron Rodgers, positively and negatively that have

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Speaker 1: been said for years, I could make the case and

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Speaker 1: I will hear that last night was a perfect example

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Speaker 1: of how so many things that are said about Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers are incredibly accurate, incredibly accurate. He is I think,

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Speaker 1: the most talented guy who's ever done it and won

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Speaker 1: at a high level. He is still very athletic for

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Speaker 1: with couching with He's forty, Like, I don't expect Hm

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Speaker 1: But in and out of the pocket, have that level

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Speaker 1: But all of the theatrics that we wanted to say

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Speaker 1: So the talent is it's not what it used to be,

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Speaker 1: but still there. The accuracy is still there. The snapping

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Speaker 1: is an unbelievable quarterback, but he's still a blamer. His

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Speaker 1: Like I'm a crazy competitor too. But I'm telling you

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Speaker 1: Like guys let you down. Guys run the wrong routes,

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Speaker 1: he led them on a game leading touchdown drive that

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Speaker 1: should not be under sold. Right. He did not get

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Speaker 1: in the air. He's still the best to throw in

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Speaker 1: saying everything we've ever said that's ever been said about

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is true. Probably the most talented guy to

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Speaker 1: arm strength, athleticism, success, Like, he just crazy, crazy talented,

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Speaker 1: but it's not all perfect. And when things don't go

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Speaker 1: and that's not always your job when you're quarterback Bayer,

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Speaker 1: you've been the opposite, right you are You've never been

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Speaker 2: All that is actually incorrect. It's two of the extreme.

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Speaker 2: So it's not that I've I'm not a Packers fan,

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Speaker 2: but I can't say I'm anti pass And I wasn't

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Speaker 2: But I think I can appreciate his greatness.

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Speaker 1: Oh he is, uh, he is phenomenal. But am I

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Speaker 1: being unfair with my critique of him? And again, I

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Speaker 1: from thirty thousand feet, But that's how everybody else ingests

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Speaker 1: their Aaron Rodgers, right. We don't get to go to

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Speaker 1: the meetings, We aren't in the sideline conversations. So there's

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Speaker 1: But for whatever reason, there's something about Rogers that just

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel like hey, or he takes the

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Speaker 1: he appears to be. And again, I'm not telling you

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Speaker 1: it's all bad, right, he's if you, if you wrote

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Speaker 1: down a list of what it takes to be a

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Speaker 1: every box. But God, the body language, God, some of

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Speaker 2: The throng of the tablet in Carolina. I think is

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Speaker 2: That there's it's funny because I think that this happens

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Speaker 2: give him the benefit of the doubt, but I don't

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Speaker 2: think Rogers should have been tackled. I actually thought it

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Speaker 1: It was the Keystone Cops or the Benny Hill Benny

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Speaker 1: he's chomping up in the air and he's doing that

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Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers hop, which is I mean, listen, it's

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Speaker 1: he's my bad, but the the he still stared right

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Speaker 1: through him. And it wasn't the only time. There were

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Speaker 1: they're crushed by injuries too. I just all the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers stuff was on display last night. A weird interception

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Speaker 2: He's done that before? Did it in a playoff game

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Speaker 2: not foreign to Rogers.

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Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying everything the full

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers experience. You even had the hail Mary granted

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Speaker 1: it wasn't completed or whatever, but the full Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: In my lifetime, in our lifetime, Dan, in our lifetime,

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Speaker 5: My biggest takeaway is when you're in the division and

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Speaker 1: That's Mark Dominic He's he's our guest. Okay, what do

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Speaker 5: Well, I mean I think you're just worried. I think

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Speaker 5: if I'm coach Glen or if I'm the gentlemanager there,

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Speaker 5: I'm telling coach going, Look, we realize the season is

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Speaker 5: going to be harsh. I understand you've got to create

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Speaker 5: your culture and continue to stay by it no matter what.

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Speaker 5: So as you get more and more young guys into

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Speaker 5: the building, their understanding the expectations of what we're trying

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Speaker 5: to build here, understanding that twenty twenty five isn't going

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Speaker 5: to be that year. And I know that you want

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Speaker 5: to win right away. But I would give him the

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Speaker 5: confidence say hey, look we're going to go through this together.

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Speaker 5: We're going to make this work, and not scare him

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Speaker 5: ount of like not being who he wants to be

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Speaker 5: and just worried about the next victory. Because I do

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Speaker 5: think with the Jets they're going to be in position

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Speaker 5: to take a quarterback and I think they will just

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Speaker 5: to off season, and I think that's going to be

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Speaker 5: a big meat move for them, because I still think

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Speaker 5: Aaron Glenn as a leader is a good one, and

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Speaker 5: I just know that the Jets just as a roster

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Speaker 5: is not a good one.

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Speaker 1: What has Drake made done to evolve the last couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks.

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Speaker 5: I think he made great decisions right with the football.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the thing. The processing seems to go

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Speaker 5: very well for Drake. May I think He's doing a

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Speaker 5: great job of getting back and knowing where he's supposed

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Speaker 5: to go with the ball and getting out of his

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Speaker 5: hands as quickly as he can to not sit there

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Speaker 5: and then force the turnover. And so I think that's

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Speaker 5: the thing with Drake made this the most impressive is

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Speaker 5: that I think his processing has really sped up, and

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Speaker 5: that's created a guy that's you know, but again, here's

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Speaker 5: a guy that's outperforming. I think the talent around him

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Speaker 5: which is a great deal for a quarterback and should

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Speaker 5: make for a very fun offseason for the New England

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Speaker 5: Patriots to continue to add weapons for him.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking the other day, I was

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Speaker 1: interesting to think about you and some of our discussions.

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Speaker 1: Smart Dominik's our guest, he's joined us for years, is

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Speaker 1: awesome former gentlem Managery Tampay Buccaneers. And sometimes we get

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Speaker 1: off on roads and anybody can look at Donald and

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Speaker 1: Baker and go like they were both on the same

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Speaker 1: team with the Carolina Panthers, and the Panthers wanted to

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Speaker 1: keep neither of them. How has this happened? But how

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Speaker 1: has this happened? And you know, to me, so much

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Speaker 1: of it's about confidence. You know, both of those guys

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Speaker 1: at their first spot, everybody lost confidence to them. They

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Speaker 1: lost confidence to themselves, didn't have a great surrounding cast

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Speaker 1: or whatever. As a guy who's been through it, now,

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Speaker 1: Donald looks like he's he's a legit. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: top fifteen quarterback right, Probably not what he's build coming

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Speaker 1: out of SC but solid. Nobody's calling the question the

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Speaker 1: contract he got. Right now, Baker is in conversation to

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Speaker 1: be MVP of the league, and I get that. You know,

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Speaker 1: some of it was him and playing hurt and you know,

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Speaker 1: the dysfunctional Browns organization and OBJ and that's why he's

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Speaker 1: not there anymore. But Carolina had him both. How does

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Speaker 1: this happen? How do you go from two guys get

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Speaker 1: cut become two stars in the same position in the

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Speaker 1: same league a couple years later.

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Speaker 5: Well, I truly think, because both those guys all come

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Speaker 5: from McVeigh shin had trees at part of their career.

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Speaker 5: In terms of Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, that that's

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Speaker 5: the difference because those those systems help a quarterback learn

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Speaker 5: how to move. Why are we doing the play? Why

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Speaker 5: are we getting the ball out quickly? Here's the design,

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Speaker 5: here's what we're going to check to. They're just want

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Speaker 5: I mean, we see guys in and out coming out

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Speaker 5: of those systems being productive, and they both had time

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Speaker 5: to be in that system. The problem with Carolina is

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Speaker 5: they're still just trying to figure out, you know, obviously

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Speaker 5: with the number one pick and what happened there, but

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Speaker 5: it's a different type of system been going through. And

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Speaker 5: I if I've got a young if I was an agent,

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Speaker 5: or if I was a young quarterback in the Nation

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Speaker 5: Football League, if there's any way I could spend a

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Speaker 5: year or two, even if it's a number three in

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Speaker 5: San Francisco or the Rams, I want to be there

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Speaker 5: or Minnesota. Quite frankly, because O'Connell's bringing that same mindset

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Speaker 5: to his organization as well. I just think it's the

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Speaker 5: right place to be. We'll see what happened with JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's it's not been what I expected

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Speaker 5: it to be, but I still think there's a lot

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Speaker 5: of upside there too, because of his character and his demeanor.

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Speaker 5: But I think that's the reason why I think Baker

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Speaker 5: Mayfield they regained their confidence in the system. That went

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Speaker 5: back to why were they such high picks in the

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Speaker 5: first place.

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Speaker 1: Great point. Okay, JJ McCarthy, what are your thoughts so far?

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Speaker 5: I've been very disappointed. I mean, I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 5: he's played one good quarter, maybe two, and I really

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Speaker 5: thought we'd see a guy that would take a big

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Speaker 5: step this year. But yeah, and you got to remind

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Speaker 5: yourself that really this is his rookie season because of

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Speaker 5: what happened last year. But I want to feel like

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Speaker 5: each week we need to start building. If we continue

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Speaker 5: as flatline, that's a very big concern because I know, no,

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Speaker 5: mentally he can handle it, and no, characteristically he can lead.

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Speaker 5: So now it's just can he processing? Can he make

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Speaker 5: the good decisions? He's not been doing that, and so

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Speaker 5: now we've just got to wait to see. I still believe.

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Speaker 5: So I'm not going to write JJ mcrossey out by

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Speaker 5: any chance. If I'm a Vikings fan, Yeah, I'm a

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Speaker 5: little disappointed, but not be frustrated yet, because you've got

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Speaker 5: to realize he's got six games, five games under his

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Speaker 5: belt and his NFL career, that's not enough to go

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Speaker 5: on yet.

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Speaker 1: Mark Dominks our guest here on the Doug Gottleib Show

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio what's changed with the Kansatate Chiefs

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Speaker 1: that's allowed them to seemingly turn around their season.

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Speaker 5: Well, it feels like they're tackling very well. I think

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Speaker 5: their cornerbacks are playing well, like Jalen Watson's a guy

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Speaker 5: that's in his fourth year that has really come back

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Speaker 5: this year and played well like he is in a

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Speaker 5: contract year, which he is. I think that's been a

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Speaker 5: big part of it, just that having him out there

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Speaker 5: in the way he's performing takes some pressure off. And

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Speaker 5: then offensively, they keep getting little pieces back offensively that

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Speaker 5: they need to have in terms of weapons, and I

546
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Speaker 5: think that that's been important. And I think the tackles

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Speaker 5: have probably I mean, the interior guys are playing very well.

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Speaker 5: Tackles have played a little better, and they've been trying

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Speaker 5: to help them out a little bit more so. I

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Speaker 5: think they're being very smart about the protection for Patrick.

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Speaker 5: And then Patrick's back to looking like Patrick Mahomes from

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Speaker 5: you know, last two years ago, three years ago, whatever

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Speaker 5: it was. He's just he's threatened the ball and it's

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Speaker 5: not because of Travis Kelcey. It's it's because he's you know,

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Speaker 5: spreading the ball all around to everybody and I think

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Speaker 5: that's the big difference.

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Speaker 1: Mark Eagles. Eagles, it just seems combustible. They don't seem

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Speaker 1: as good as they were a j. Brown. You know,

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Speaker 1: two games ago they tried to force it to him.

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Speaker 1: His attitude's not great. You know, Jalen Hurts does have

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Speaker 1: some limitations. You know, he does everything except for really

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Speaker 1: throw the football crazy. Well, what's your perspective in the

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Speaker 1: likelihood that they turn this thing around.

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Speaker 5: I think they can turn it around. I think the

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Speaker 5: offensive line's still playing very well. I think they just

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Speaker 5: need to feed the ball to sake one even more

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Speaker 5: than they are and whether that's in the passing game

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Speaker 5: and short throws. But it's time to just pound with

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Speaker 5: Sakon and see what a game looks like with twenty

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Speaker 5: six carries and six catches. And I know it's a

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Speaker 5: lot to ask for any running back, but I think

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Speaker 5: that's what they got to get back to the grassroots

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Speaker 5: of why they got to the Super Bowl and won

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Speaker 5: it last year, and that was on the back of

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Speaker 5: Saquon Barkley. It wasn't Jalen Hurts throwing the ball over

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Speaker 5: the field. And the other part is that they're just

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Speaker 5: not getting to the quarterback in terms of sacks or pressure.

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Speaker 5: They've got to get Jalen Carter on the field and healthy.

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Speaker 5: And if they can get to that point, those two pieces,

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Speaker 5: to me, Saquon Barkley and Jalen Carter are really the

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Speaker 5: keys of them getting back on track.

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Speaker 1: Mark Uh, Look, it should be a great football weekend.

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Speaker 1: Love talking ball with you, especially after last night. I

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Speaker 1: got me jacked. I did not expect that to be

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Speaker 1: a good game, and then it was. It was a fun,

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Speaker 1: great atmosphere, good football game. Disappointing end for the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: still fun. Thanks so much for being our guests. Enjoy

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Speaker 1: the weekend. We'll talk to you next week.

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Speaker 5: Thanks for having me on again.

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Speaker 1: He's the best.

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Speaker 4: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug

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Speaker 4: Gottlieb Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific.

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Speaker 1: That's Doug Got the Show Fox Sports Radio. I have

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Speaker 1: a congruent take at the top of the hour on

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Speaker 1: why the Brewers have been so outclassed by the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: Congruent take as the Dodgers just I mean that even

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Speaker 1: that hadn't even been interested. I know. Suzaki came in

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Speaker 1: got the closed last night. His stuff is so filthy.

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Speaker 1: How do you hit that? That's like a real question.

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Speaker 1: When you have himI Yamamoto, they have that split finger

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Speaker 1: that just falls off the table. How does any human

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Speaker 1: being hit that? I don't know. You know, the late

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Speaker 1: Timmy of the sorta, he used to always say, I go,

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Speaker 1: people say they're hitting a golf ball's artist thing? You

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Speaker 1: kidding me? Ninety seven mile an hour fastball coming in

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Speaker 1: at your eye right like? How He's right? How do

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Speaker 1: you hit that? I have no idea how you hit

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Speaker 1: that stuff? We get some baseball top of the hour.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to that, though, Let's get to our

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Speaker 1: guy Dan Byer for a game.

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Speaker 4: This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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Speaker 1: Danny what he got up all right?

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Speaker 2: The game today is I got this all right? To

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Speaker 2: throw out a topic and we all jump in with

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Speaker 2: what we want as ours. The first topic. Worst game

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Speaker 2: of the week seven schedule in the NFL three to

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Speaker 2: one go, it's gotta be Panthers Jets right like it

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Speaker 2: truly does win this Jets team, a Panthers team that's

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Speaker 2: middle of the road right now according to the record.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if anybody thinks they're actually a

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Speaker 2: middle of the road team. Give me Panthers and Jets

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Speaker 2: in Jersey on Sunday.

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Speaker 6: I'll take got DIBs on. I got DIBs on Dolphins

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Speaker 6: and Browns.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a stinker.

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Speaker 6: Browns have amazing defense at home, so it's probably gonna

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Speaker 6: be a three to two final.

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Speaker 2: The weather could have win gusts anywhere from.

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Speaker 6: Forty y quarterback. What could go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 7: I got DIBs on Saints at Bears only because you know,

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Speaker 7: everyone wants to ce Caleb Williams and continue to evolve,

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Speaker 7: But Saints at Bears just does not get don't get

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Speaker 7: my blood pumping very much. We're picking worst here, just

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Speaker 7: by the way. Worst, yes, worst, No blood pumping anything

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Speaker 7: for you, Doug, all right, moving on, we may have lost, Doug,

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Speaker 7: all right, Yes, let's do uh. Next topic, Most exciting

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Speaker 7: play in baseball, Most exciting play in baseball three to

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Speaker 7: one go.

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Speaker 6: I got dips, I got worst game in baseball, I

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Speaker 6: got DIBs.

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Speaker 2: Worst play in baseball, Jason Dibbs our best play in baseball? Gosh. Now,

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Speaker 2: most exciting play in baseball when a when.

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Speaker 6: A fast runner above average runner hits one of the

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Speaker 6: gap for a triple especially if you're there in person.

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Speaker 6: The best play in baseball triple.

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Speaker 2: I got DIBs on triple play. You thought I was

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Speaker 2: just gonna copycat mimic Jason, play like, oh, five four three?

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Speaker 2: How about that? Runners on first and second, nobody out

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Speaker 2: here in the bottom of the second I mean grand

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Speaker 2: ball down the third base line.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure I don't triple ply the

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Speaker 1: inning is over.

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Speaker 2: That a little too loud, Sam, Sorry.

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Speaker 1: No, that was pretty good. The pretty good pacing too, Dan, Dan.

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Speaker 4: Let me.

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Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I get the game right.

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Speaker 1: So it has to be like a live action play.

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Speaker 1: I can't say, like, you know, closer on the mound,

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Speaker 1: bases loaded, two strikes, bottom of the ninth inning, full count.

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Speaker 1: It has to be an actual play in the field.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you want to say, uh, if that's your.

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Speaker 1: Play at the plate, play at the plate would be

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Speaker 1: my okay. Now, play at the plate especially, I think

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Speaker 1: tagging up, because there's a build up when it's tagging up,

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Speaker 1: like is it far enough? Is it not far enough?

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Speaker 1: Like the guy holding his tag you And then now

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Speaker 1: obviously with the you can't block the plate, so there's

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Speaker 1: a certain kind of art to it. Where they kind

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Speaker 1: of block the plate without trying to block the plate.

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Speaker 1: Play at the plate.

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Speaker 7: Has anybody had DIBs on just like inside the park

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Speaker 7: home run?

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Speaker 2: No, I'll take that. No, there's only four of us,

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Speaker 2: so unless somebody randomly came in maybe when I was

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Speaker 2: was was the call so bad? Sam? Is that why

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Speaker 2: you covered your ears? Or is it just no?

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Speaker 7: It was just you and Doug kind of both, you know.

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Speaker 6: Play the Stu Correll drop.

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Speaker 2: All right, moving on, I have I have.

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Speaker 1: Can I can I just add sort of one more.

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Speaker 1: It's not like I know it's it's a game or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a break between when a guy looks

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Speaker 1: like on strike three but he may or may not

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Speaker 1: have gone, and they point to first or the third

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Speaker 1: base umpire. That that that half second between when they

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Speaker 1: ring them up or when they do safe. That that's

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Speaker 1: one of the great moments in sports because you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he went, he went, he went, and then they point

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Speaker 1: down the line and then all of a sudden the

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Speaker 1: camera changes and they'll go like ring them up. That

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Speaker 1: pause is incredibly exciting.

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Speaker 2: The appeal, the appeal, the appeal, That's what I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: all right, guys, last topic, do you want to do

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Speaker 2: NBA MVP because the season starts on Tuesday, or do

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Speaker 2: you want to do old guys old guys, old guys, sorry,

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Speaker 2: old guys dead or alive?

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Speaker 1: Like this guy? Who was it who you killed off yesterday?

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Speaker 1: Jas Oh Dave Stewart that he's like the late great

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Speaker 1: Dave Stewart. I was like, Oh, I just saw him

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Speaker 1: in August. Did something happen?

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Speaker 2: All right? Three to one go?

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Speaker 7: I got he was on Dick van Dyke, who is

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Speaker 7: ninety nine years old. He'll be turning one hundred in December.

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Speaker 7: Long live Dick Van Dyke.

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Speaker 2: I got DIBs on Bob Barker, And even though he's passed,

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Speaker 2: he was he was always my favorite old guy.

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Speaker 1: Favorite guy. Coach from Cheers. I love coach Coach.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Coach from Cheers. Old when he started the show,

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Speaker 1: and then he died while the show was still going.

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Speaker 1: I think he's always old.

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Speaker 2: Jason.

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Speaker 6: I think Quinn Easwood could kick my ass. I got

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Speaker 6: DIBs on eighty eight or whatever.

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Speaker 2: No, he's like, and that's game time.

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Speaker 4: Game, This is game time on the Doug Gottlieb Show.

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