WEBVTT - Stealing Superman: Episode Seven — Strange Visitor

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<v Speaker 1>April two thousand eleven a warehouse in Simi Valley, California.

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<v Speaker 1>Stephen Fishler, a comic book dealer, is standing outside. Next

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<v Speaker 1>to him is Los Angeles Police Detective Donald Harrisick. The

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<v Speaker 1>two are about to go inside the warehouse, where both

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<v Speaker 1>men think there's an ending to this story, the story

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<v Speaker 1>of four stolen comic books from the home of Nicholas Cage,

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<v Speaker 1>including the world's most valuable title action comics. No one

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<v Speaker 1>that comic might be just a few feet away after

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<v Speaker 1>eleven years of searching. It's tantalizingly close. But while they

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<v Speaker 1>suspect the comic is inside, they don't know who might

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<v Speaker 1>be with it, so hurry. Sick shares some words of caution.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what Stephen remembers. And they gave me sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the lay of the land, the how they wanted this

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<v Speaker 1>to go down. Detective Horristic would poses my partner, And

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<v Speaker 1>they said to me, yeah, because I'm I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do a comic deal. Obviously this is not a normal

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<v Speaker 1>comic deal because it's a stolen book. But he says,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's trouble, anybody brings out a gun, hit the

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<v Speaker 1>floor and I went golden I said, if somebody brings

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<v Speaker 1>out a gun, don't worry. I can do that. That

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<v Speaker 1>sounds well intense, but there are a few reasons why

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Horresi is giving the warning. The first is that

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't his first flirtation with people who are knowingly

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<v Speaker 1>or not in possession of stolen art, and people in

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<v Speaker 1>possession of stolen art can be dangerous. The second reason

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<v Speaker 1>is that Donald Harrisk doesn't plan on letting the men

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<v Speaker 1>inside know he's a cop, or that several cops are

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<v Speaker 1>hiding nearby, at least not just yet. So there's risk,

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<v Speaker 1>but the risk is worth it for both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Harrisik has an opportunity to add another recovery to his

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<v Speaker 1>storied career as an art detective, and Fishler can put

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<v Speaker 1>to bed a mystery that's been eating at him since

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand, the mystery of how Nick Cage's comics were

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<v Speaker 1>ripped off his wall during a party in a brazen

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<v Speaker 1>and so far successful attempt to relieve him of his

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<v Speaker 1>prized possessions. Anything could have happened to the comics. They

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<v Speaker 1>could have been lost, or destroyed or damaged. But if

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<v Speaker 1>the picture sent to Stephen just a couple of days prior,

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<v Speaker 1>was any hint the most important comic had survived the

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<v Speaker 1>past decade in one piece. To confirm it, all the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them had to do was walked through the door.

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<v Speaker 1>That was it. The two walk inside, then Stephen notices

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<v Speaker 1>something out of the corner of his eye. We get

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<v Speaker 1>out and we go into an office and there was

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<v Speaker 1>an individual standing outside, and as soon as we went

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<v Speaker 1>in he must have realized who I was. He went

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<v Speaker 1>into the office fifteen seconds after the tective and I

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<v Speaker 1>went in, and I went kind of weird. He was

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<v Speaker 1>waiting outside and then I looked at his hand. He's

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<v Speaker 1>holding the Manila folder and I go that book was

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<v Speaker 1>pictured in the Manila folder, but I can't see what's

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<v Speaker 1>in it. And the individual with the Manila folder is

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<v Speaker 1>pulled into an inner office is now sitting in this office,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Minila folder is now open, and there's the

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<v Speaker 1>book on like a little aprolic pedestal and we sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's an original action one where I heart radio.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Stealing Superman. I'm your host, Dana Schwartz, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is episode seven. Strange Visitor two thousand eleven was

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<v Speaker 1>turning out to be a tumultuous year for Cage. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a time when, approaching his fifties, he was on

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<v Speaker 1>shaky ground as a leading man. He was drifting away

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<v Speaker 1>from his action star Heyday and many years removed from

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<v Speaker 1>his last Oscar nomination. A major Disney movie, The Sorcerer's Apprentice,

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<v Speaker 1>had disappointed a year earlier. Cages two thousand and eleven

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<v Speaker 1>slate of films weren't much better, with little remembered titles

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<v Speaker 1>like Season of the Witch and Drive Angry Another turn

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<v Speaker 1>as more All's ghost Rider character debuted at the quote

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<v Speaker 1>Butt Namathon to a reportedly poor reception. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of a decade spent largely in the direct to

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<v Speaker 1>television market, where the movies were often undeserving of Cage's talents.

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<v Speaker 1>It had happened to John Travolta and to Bruce Willis.

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<v Speaker 1>Cage like to say, making a lot of low budget

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<v Speaker 1>movies was kind of like the old studio system where

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<v Speaker 1>stars churned out movies. But there was no denying his

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<v Speaker 1>career had stalled. Professionally, it wasn't his best year, But

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<v Speaker 1>for our story, there was one bright spot. Art crime,

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<v Speaker 1>as any good art crime detective will tell you, is

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<v Speaker 1>a game of Patients extreme Patients. Art thieves may try

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<v Speaker 1>to convert their illicit goods to money quickly, or they

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<v Speaker 1>may decide they're far better off sitting on something for years,

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<v Speaker 1>even decades. The general rule is, if a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>stolen art doesn't service immediately, you may not see it

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<v Speaker 1>for say, ten years, long enough for cops to lose

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<v Speaker 1>interest and the trail of ownership to grow cold. In

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<v Speaker 1>the case of Cages Action number one, it was eleven

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<v Speaker 1>years close enough. In an earlier episode, we Told You.

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<v Speaker 1>Art thefts are often preceded by media coverage of lavish

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<v Speaker 1>auctions or high dollar sales, something to make the thief

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<v Speaker 1>think about the value of something they could steal. The

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<v Speaker 1>same can also hold true for art recovery. Someone in

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<v Speaker 1>possession of a stolen item may see news of its

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<v Speaker 1>value and how much it's increased since it was taken,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can be the motivation to finally try and

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<v Speaker 1>return it to the legitimate market. So what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand eleven A few things. In February, Joanne Siegel,

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<v Speaker 1>the widow of the late Superman co creator Jerry Siegel,

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<v Speaker 1>passed away. It was covered in the media, often with

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<v Speaker 1>a mention of how rare and valuable Action Comics Number

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<v Speaker 1>one was, And in March of that year, Stephen Fishler

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<v Speaker 1>made some history. His company, Comic Connect, an online marketplace

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<v Speaker 1>for comics, sold a copy of Amazing Fantasy Number fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>That nineteen sixty two comic introduced Spider Man, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>sold for an astounding one point one million, a new

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<v Speaker 1>record for the wall Crawler. So what does that have

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<v Speaker 1>to do with Action number one. In all of the

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<v Speaker 1>ensuing media articles about the sale of Amazing Fantasy Number fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>reporters had to make a clarifying remark that while the

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<v Speaker 1>sale was a record for Spider Man, it wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>comic book record. That honor still longed to Action number one.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand ten, Fishler sold two copies of the comic,

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<v Speaker 1>one for a million dollars and another for one point

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<v Speaker 1>five million. The latter was the most expensive comic ever sold.

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<v Speaker 1>So whoever was holding onto the comic taken from Nick

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<v Speaker 1>Cage's home may have felt a new sense of urgency.

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<v Speaker 1>And if someone happened to find that comic around that time,

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<v Speaker 1>well they'd know it was worth quite a bit. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of weeks after news of that sale broke,

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Dotson and his wife Laura were approached by two men.

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<v Speaker 1>Dan and Laura run American Auctioneers, a storage locker liquidation

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<v Speaker 1>business in California. If you've seen the A and E

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<v Speaker 1>show Storage Wars, you've seen Dan. The premise of what

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<v Speaker 1>Dan and Laura do is pretty simple to understand, although

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<v Speaker 1>it's real not an easy job. American Auctioneers is hired

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<v Speaker 1>by storage unit companies to auction off storage units that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't up to date on their payments. Say someone rents

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<v Speaker 1>the storage locker, stuffs it full of their belongings, then

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<v Speaker 1>stops paying the monthly bill. The storage company is stuck

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of stuff they don't want, so to

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<v Speaker 1>recoup what they can, they auction off the contents to

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<v Speaker 1>buyers who hope to profit from what's inside. The buyers

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<v Speaker 1>can't really see any of it beforehand, just a glimpse,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's kind of a crapshoot. You might get something

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<v Speaker 1>valuable or you might get some old clothes. Either way,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes for really good reality television. American Auctioneers, like

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<v Speaker 1>every liquidator, gives the owners of the lockers every chance

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<v Speaker 1>to come and collect their things before it's too late.

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<v Speaker 1>They're required by law to print a public notice in

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<v Speaker 1>newspapers with the names of the people who are past

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<v Speaker 1>do on their bills. Those people can swooped back in

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<v Speaker 1>even at the last minute. If they can pay up,

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<v Speaker 1>they get to keep their stuff. If not, it's open season.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Dan was doing in March when he was

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<v Speaker 1>approached by someone he recognized, a man about forty years old.

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<v Speaker 1>The man whom he knew only as Sylvester, had recently

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<v Speaker 1>arrived on the storage unit scene. Like a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>He may have been compelled to get into it based

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<v Speaker 1>on the popularity of storage wars. Either way, he was

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<v Speaker 1>a new but familiar face. Originally, he had approached Dan's wife, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>who's the co owner of their company. Here's Laura. I

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<v Speaker 1>just remember his name being Sylvester, and he had a

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<v Speaker 1>friend with him, and they were they were shorter guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know that. When I'm doing my auction and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that, I try to remember the whole crowd,

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<v Speaker 1>and I try to make you look at everybody's face

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't miss anybody's bid and so forth. And

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<v Speaker 1>I just remember they were maybe five ft three each

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<v Speaker 1>of them and smaller guys. Laura thought Sylvester and his

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<v Speaker 1>friend had a question about the auction she and Dan

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<v Speaker 1>were holding. That was typically why people approached them to

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<v Speaker 1>ask questions about how it all works. But Sylvester had

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<v Speaker 1>something else on his mind. He wanted to invite her

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<v Speaker 1>to his home. Well, here I am in this auction

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<v Speaker 1>place and I'm doing an auction and I'm on my

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<v Speaker 1>like last unit, and a guy comes up with a

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<v Speaker 1>friend and asked me. I said, okay, you're here for

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<v Speaker 1>the auction. Everything is. I gave him the terms real

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<v Speaker 1>quick because I realized, oh, he's just showing up. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said to me, do you have comic books you

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<v Speaker 1>find in units? And so do you guys have buyers

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that? And could you appraise a comic

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<v Speaker 1>book for me? Sylvester was looking for guidance, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when it's really kind of local over here, you could

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<v Speaker 1>just come on over to my house. And I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be the one that would just come to

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<v Speaker 1>your house because I had never seen this guy before.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, well, my name is Sylvester, and he

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<v Speaker 1>had a another guy with him, and I recalled that

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<v Speaker 1>they were new to the auction, and they were interested

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<v Speaker 1>in looking at units, is what I thought. And I said,

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<v Speaker 1>last unit, last unit, happening right now. And he wants

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<v Speaker 1>me to please come to his house, and okay, let

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<v Speaker 1>me look at this last unit. But if you could

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<v Speaker 1>just come before your next sale. And it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>you know about comic books, I said, listen, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be the one to come. Let me give you my

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<v Speaker 1>husband's information. He will be doing an auction on Saturday,

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<v Speaker 1>was the nearest time. And he said to me, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well great, then I'm gonna come and see your husband.

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<v Speaker 1>And I figured, you know what my husband and I

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<v Speaker 1>do is we will look for provenance and we will

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<v Speaker 1>look for through a fem roun paper stuff if we

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<v Speaker 1>can find anything online. And I hadn't put it. I

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<v Speaker 1>put it into my head and kind of out of

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<v Speaker 1>my head. So Sylvester came back that Saturday and he

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<v Speaker 1>brought something with him, and this time he approached Laura's husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Dan. So he brought it down to our auction

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<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, and I was looking at it. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming through that comic book and it just

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<v Speaker 1>looked so nice and Prestine, I just you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty sure that it was probably reproduction, but it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Sylvester explained to Dan that he had just bought a

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<v Speaker 1>storage locker from American auctioneers. After cleaning it out and

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<v Speaker 1>sorting through its contents, he made the discovery of the Century,

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<v Speaker 1>a nearly flawless copy of Action Comics Number one tucked

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<v Speaker 1>inside of a large hardcover book. Dan knows a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot when it comes to stuff people find

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<v Speaker 1>in storage lockers, from antiques to guns, but he's not

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<v Speaker 1>an expert in comic books. He didn't know exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>he was looking at. Not not really, No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw that it was June comic, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize it was I didn't realize how special it was

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. For Dan, there wasn't any thought to

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get involved. No, no, I didn't even realize

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<v Speaker 1>the value of it. Um. You know, I and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have connections to by, you know, comic books.

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<v Speaker 1>So while he figured this could be something, he decided

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<v Speaker 1>to pass Sylvester along to someone else. Lalo was, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting up our auctions at the time, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>introduced them. I think the guy's name was Sylvester, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Sylvester, Mark, Mark, Sylvester, you know, knock yourselves out.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I, you know, I didn't really think anything

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<v Speaker 1>else of it. Balalo is Mark Balalo, another storage unit liquidator.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark was relatively new to the scene too. He would

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<v Speaker 1>make appearances on Storage Wars, flashing a lot of money

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<v Speaker 1>to scoop up storage units, wearing sunglasses indoors, and generally

0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:52.680
<v Speaker 1>being provocative enough to make an impression on reality television.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Balalo at the time, I think really wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be on Storage Wars. And and he pretended that

0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.920
<v Speaker 1>we knew each other like forever, and we didn't know

0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:05.280
<v Speaker 1>each other, you know, forever. But Mark did know about

0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.960
<v Speaker 1>comics more than Dan and Laura at any rate. So

0:15:09.040 --> 0:15:12.440
<v Speaker 1>he and Sylvester got to talking, and Mark said enough

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<v Speaker 1>to convince Sylvester that he could find a proper buyer

0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.480
<v Speaker 1>for his discovery. He took the comics, put it in

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<v Speaker 1>the safe of his warehouse in Simi Valley, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he made a phone call. He called the one person

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<v Speaker 1>whose name had been in hundreds of newspapers as the

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<v Speaker 1>man who was earning record prices for rare comic books,

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<v Speaker 1>including amazing Fantasy number fifteen and the very comic Mark

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<v Speaker 1>was holding in his hands. Of all the dealers he

0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:53.400
<v Speaker 1>could have called, Mark called Stephen Fishler. Stephen Fishler couldn't

0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:57.200
<v Speaker 1>believe it. The Action number one he sold to Cage,

0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:00.640
<v Speaker 1>the one he had been searching for, just material realized

0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.840
<v Speaker 1>in front of his face. An employee of Minds is

0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:10.400
<v Speaker 1>the individual contacted him with an Action one, and I

0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.000
<v Speaker 1>go to the person's word station. They look at their

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<v Speaker 1>computer and I see in this email a picture of

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<v Speaker 1>an Action one. It's not in a bag. It appears

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<v Speaker 1>to be in photograph while it's sitting in a Manila

0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:33.720
<v Speaker 1>four They're on screen. Was the comic unceremoniously tucked into

0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a Manila folder and resting on a car seat. But

0:16:37.440 --> 0:16:41.920
<v Speaker 1>how could Stephen tell it was the comic? Rare comics

0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:46.600
<v Speaker 1>have markings, certain distinguishable markings that distanced them from the

0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:51.280
<v Speaker 1>hundreds of similar copies. Stephen felt he knew what cages

0:16:51.320 --> 0:16:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Action number one looked like, the way a parent can

0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:58.240
<v Speaker 1>tell the difference between identical twins. The secret was in

0:16:58.280 --> 0:17:01.560
<v Speaker 1>the blue banner. Just over the tight a logo. There

0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:06.400
<v Speaker 1>were white markings. Stephen knew about markings other collectors or

0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.280
<v Speaker 1>a thief may not even be aware of. And the

0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:15.840
<v Speaker 1>markings were there exactly as Stephen remembered that. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do a double tape, and I will say it probably

0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:22.160
<v Speaker 1>took me five seconds to realize it was next book.

0:17:22.960 --> 0:17:25.960
<v Speaker 1>But I found a copy of a picture of the book,

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<v Speaker 1>just to be double short. And my employee emailed me,

0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:34.440
<v Speaker 1>forwarding me the original email. I called this individual up.

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<v Speaker 1>His name was Mark. He was in Semi Valley, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thanked him for contacting me. And it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful book, and they wanted to sell it. And

0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:54.360
<v Speaker 1>he indicated that he was friends with the owner. He's

0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.399
<v Speaker 1>representing the owner. And they said that the book was

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<v Speaker 1>purchased in an aukstion like a storage unit auction. The

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<v Speaker 1>question was what exactly did Mark Ballelo want Stephen to do.

0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:14.560
<v Speaker 1>According to Stephen, it was to authenticate the comic, to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it was the genuine article and not a

0:18:17.280 --> 0:18:20.840
<v Speaker 1>reproduction or a phony like the one that had turned

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<v Speaker 1>up in Memphis back in two thousand and two, or

0:18:24.040 --> 0:18:28.320
<v Speaker 1>the ones unscrupulous ebayers sometimes tried to pass off as

0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the real thing. If it was the real thing, then

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<v Speaker 1>Mark would go looking for a buyer, one who would

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<v Speaker 1>pay him at least a million dollars for the comic.

0:18:38.359 --> 0:18:40.600
<v Speaker 1>And who better to ask for help than the man

0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:44.000
<v Speaker 1>who was just in the news for setting seven figure

0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.640
<v Speaker 1>records for comic sales. I had the first million dollar

0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sale of a comic book. It was another Action one.

0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:56.400
<v Speaker 1>It was before this, and I believe that they heard

0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 1>about this million dollars sale because it was mine. Mine

0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:03.800
<v Speaker 1>aim was well over it, and that's where they connected

0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.680
<v Speaker 1>the figure of a million, and I think that that's

0:19:06.720 --> 0:19:11.280
<v Speaker 1>why New Contact. So what happened was I sold See

0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:16.720
<v Speaker 1>an Action one for a million, then I sold an

0:19:16.760 --> 0:19:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Action one in for one point five. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>all before and that was publicized. So that was all

0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:33.159
<v Speaker 1>before Mark Contact. But Mark didn't seem to acknowledge that

0:19:33.280 --> 0:19:37.520
<v Speaker 1>it could be Nicholas Cage's copy, and Stephen didn't mention

0:19:37.560 --> 0:19:41.400
<v Speaker 1>it either. If Mark knew it could be Cages, why

0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:45.520
<v Speaker 1>go to Cages comic dealer. Isn't that launching yourself directly

0:19:45.600 --> 0:19:49.560
<v Speaker 1>in the line of fire? Not exactly. I don't think

0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:54.439
<v Speaker 1>he did, And my feeling is he just knew that

0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:57.840
<v Speaker 1>I dealt in Action once and I was prominent dealer.

0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:00.480
<v Speaker 1>He found a lot of information about out me, but

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<v Speaker 1>not that connection. And I also said to myself, if

0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:07.360
<v Speaker 1>they know it was stolen from California, let's not get

0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a California deal over here, because he might really know

0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.280
<v Speaker 1>that this is stolen book. Let's get a New York guy,

0:20:13.680 --> 0:20:16.440
<v Speaker 1>because if if it's New York, well maybe this is

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:20.160
<v Speaker 1>a smaller chance that'll know it's stolen. Stephen did two things,

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.119
<v Speaker 1>and I said, oh, that's great. And I'm knowing the

0:20:24.320 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>entire time that this story might not be real, but

0:20:28.160 --> 0:20:30.679
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter because they have the book. And I

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<v Speaker 1>called the detective horrific after I got off the phone,

0:20:35.240 --> 0:20:38.439
<v Speaker 1>saying that the main book, the Action One, is in

0:20:38.640 --> 0:20:41.960
<v Speaker 1>l A. And I said, I'm being contacted. I have

0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a picture of it. This is the individual's name. I

0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.760
<v Speaker 1>sent him the email. That's it. That's the book, um,

0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:51.280
<v Speaker 1>and he wants me to come and look at it.

0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 1>And I booked a ticket. So the coordination happened where

0:20:56.520 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I came out the next day, met the detective at

0:21:00.880 --> 0:21:06.600
<v Speaker 1>the local police station that was near Simi Valley. Harrisick

0:21:06.720 --> 0:21:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you'll remember is Donald Harresik, the l A. P. D

0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Art detective whom Stephen had sparred with a handful of

0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:17.680
<v Speaker 1>times over the years. To Stephen, Donald hadn't been overly

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:21.879
<v Speaker 1>aggressive in hunting down the cage. Comics art theft was

0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:26.240
<v Speaker 1>rampant in Los Angeles, and in fairness to Donald, there

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:29.840
<v Speaker 1>was always a lot going on with virtually no manpower

0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.840
<v Speaker 1>devoted to it. Donald had one partner. If that still,

0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.879
<v Speaker 1>Donald agreed that Steven should go and meet with the

0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:42.080
<v Speaker 1>two of them, with Mark and Sylvester. Donald would accompany

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:46.200
<v Speaker 1>him as an associate. It would be a sting operation,

0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 1>one where the contraband wasn't drugs or guns, but a

0:21:51.160 --> 0:21:55.560
<v Speaker 1>comic book. The next day, Stephen found himself outside Mark

0:21:55.600 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Balelo's warehouse in Simi Valley, California, a massive struck sure

0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.600
<v Speaker 1>where Mark housed his inventory of items he bought and sold.

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:09.199
<v Speaker 1>He dealt in electronics, a thriving eBay business, live auctions,

0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:14.120
<v Speaker 1>and business was apparently booming. Stephen got the pep talk

0:22:14.160 --> 0:22:17.399
<v Speaker 1>from Donald, the one where he should duck if someone

0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:22.199
<v Speaker 1>brought out a gun, but Donald wasn't taking chances. He

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.359
<v Speaker 1>stationed a number of officers around the warehouse in case

0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:29.000
<v Speaker 1>backup was needed. The situation may have seemed funny on

0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:33.320
<v Speaker 1>the surface, it was after all a comic, but one

0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:37.280
<v Speaker 1>worth potentially millions of dollars, and when that kind of

0:22:37.320 --> 0:22:42.400
<v Speaker 1>money is involved, people can be unpredictable. Stephen and Donald

0:22:42.560 --> 0:22:47.480
<v Speaker 1>walked into the warehouse before anyone could say anything. Stephen

0:22:47.560 --> 0:22:51.240
<v Speaker 1>caught sight of the man with a Manila folder. It

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.600
<v Speaker 1>was a light yellow office folder, the kind of stationary

0:22:54.640 --> 0:22:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you tuck and earnings report in. Not a valuable comic.

0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a great way for the book to get damaged,

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 1>wrinkled pages torn. Suddenly, Stephen was thinking that even if

0:23:04.720 --> 0:23:07.960
<v Speaker 1>this was the comic, who knew what kind of damage

0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it had sustained in the past eleven years. Anything from

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:15.879
<v Speaker 1>humidity to sunlight could have damaged it beyond repair. Comics

0:23:15.960 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>can't be restored without someone noticing it, and collectors have

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:25.680
<v Speaker 1>very definitive opinions about restored comics. They're often seen as

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:31.639
<v Speaker 1>something less valuable. This comic was from night. It needed

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>to be treated kindly, and here was a man carrying

0:23:35.400 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it like he was a waiter with a menu. Stephen's

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>attention was diverted when Mark Ballelo appeared. Stephen hadn't seen

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 1>Storage Wars, had never met Ballelo, knew virtually nothing of

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:52.919
<v Speaker 1>the storage unit scene. But Mark was easy enough to profile.

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 1>He wore shiny shirts, he talked a lot, He acted

0:23:58.640 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>like the car salesman he used to be. He invited

0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:06.000
<v Speaker 1>Stephen and Donald into an office. The four of them

0:24:06.160 --> 0:24:11.840
<v Speaker 1>sat down. Mark seemed loose, easy going, excited. A seven

0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>figure pay day had practically dropped itself into his lap.

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.159
<v Speaker 1>If he knew about Cage or that Stephen's friend was

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a cop, he showed no signs of it at all.

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:25.960
<v Speaker 1>He was here to be told he was about to

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 1>come into a windfall, or at least half of it.

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:34.280
<v Speaker 1>That was what he and Sylvester had agreed to. Stephen

0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:37.760
<v Speaker 1>picked up the comic. Anything could have happened prior to

0:24:37.840 --> 0:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>this point. Mark and Sylvester could have gotten cold feet

0:24:41.200 --> 0:24:44.480
<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason and disappeared. They could have decided to

0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 1>sell it to someone else. They could have sent a

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:50.200
<v Speaker 1>picture they had found online. Or Stephen could have been

0:24:50.240 --> 0:24:53.480
<v Speaker 1>mistaken about the markings. There was no way for him

0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 1>to know for sure until he had the comic in

0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 1>his hands. An original action one beautiful me. I really

0:25:00.600 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 1>appreciate contacting me about it. And this individual who seemed

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:09.320
<v Speaker 1>to think his name told me his name was Arthur

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.200
<v Speaker 1>just off the top of my head, Arthur was Sylvester.

0:25:14.560 --> 0:25:18.159
<v Speaker 1>He reiterated the story about how he got the book,

0:25:19.000 --> 0:25:22.199
<v Speaker 1>and they bought a store of JUnit and it was

0:25:22.280 --> 0:25:26.359
<v Speaker 1>found inside another book. I think I might have asked,

0:25:26.440 --> 0:25:30.560
<v Speaker 1>was there anything else in there? Any other comic books?

0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>They said no, And there's a little ooing and eyeing

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:38.240
<v Speaker 1>over the book. They wanted a million dollars for it.

0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>As the men talked, Stephen examined the comic, and right

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:48.240
<v Speaker 1>away he knew this was Nicolas Cage's Action number one.

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>A tiny white splotch inside one of the blue banners

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:58.680
<v Speaker 1>confirmed it. Like a fingerprint missing eleven years, found today,

0:25:59.080 --> 0:26:03.119
<v Speaker 1>and not only that, in virtually the same condition it

0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:07.360
<v Speaker 1>was when it was taken from Cage's house on purpose

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>or by accident. Whoever had been in possession of it

0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:14.359
<v Speaker 1>all this time had managed not to ruin it. For

0:26:14.480 --> 0:26:18.200
<v Speaker 1>a comic that had been purportedly stuffed inside a storage unit,

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>one that may not have even had a climate controlled environment,

0:26:22.880 --> 0:26:28.000
<v Speaker 1>it was pristine. Stephen wanted to exhale, but couldn't really

0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:32.000
<v Speaker 1>couldn't tip them off. He scanned the two men in

0:26:32.080 --> 0:26:37.680
<v Speaker 1>front of him, Mark and Sylvester. Stephen remembers. Sylvester kept

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:41.280
<v Speaker 1>saying his name was Arthur. They were both hard to read.

0:26:41.960 --> 0:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>They didn't seem nervous, so maybe they didn't know the

0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:49.280
<v Speaker 1>comics history. Maybe they both believed they were two of

0:26:49.320 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>the luckiest people on the planet. Stephen started talking to

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>them to try to understand how they wound up with

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.359
<v Speaker 1>the comic in their hands. It is Arthur a little

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.320
<v Speaker 1>bit of Mark, because Mark was really really not a

0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 1>comic deal or so he's he's just trying to put

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:10.720
<v Speaker 1>from what he said, parties together to do a deal.

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he was getting a cut for his work.

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I asked Arthur, who obviously walked in with the book.

0:27:17.800 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm trying to get some more details. Wanted

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:23.840
<v Speaker 1>to see what other information, and he had his story

0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>and he was sticking to it about where it came from.

0:27:27.720 --> 0:27:30.120
<v Speaker 1>So I would think that if somebody bought a storage

0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>unit would be very clear on where they got it from.

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 1>To see if there's anything more in there. Stephen wasn't

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>getting much more detail from either man. They were simply

0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:45.160
<v Speaker 1>two people who wanted to know if the rare comics

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:50.199
<v Speaker 1>Sylvester found was the real deal, and it was, but

0:27:50.320 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't necessarily a good thing for them. Stephen and

0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>Donald had made an arrangement. Once Stephen was sure this

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:03.119
<v Speaker 1>was the book, he'd not at Donald, and then Donald,

0:28:03.320 --> 0:28:06.960
<v Speaker 1>who was mostly quiet up until now, would start doing

0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:11.639
<v Speaker 1>all of the talking. And then Detective Horristic, who I

0:28:11.720 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 1>introduces my partner when we walked in, grabbed his business

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>card and handed it to the two gentlemen, and just

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:25.600
<v Speaker 1>not a business card from a comic dealer, but a

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 1>business card from a police officer. Police Detective Donald announced

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>he was a cop, and suddenly the air seemed to

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:36.439
<v Speaker 1>go out of the room. He may as well have

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 1>just set the comic book on fire. And he explains

0:28:40.440 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>who he is, and he brings out a copy of

0:28:44.640 --> 0:28:50.840
<v Speaker 1>the original police report from two thousands, and I literally

0:28:51.520 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>saw the individual I remember as Arthur turned gray. All

0:28:59.240 --> 0:29:03.120
<v Speaker 1>the blood ansom. Everybody thought they had a million dollar

0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>paid day person flew out to buy the book. And

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 1>here's a cop, here's a police detective. As Mark and

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Sylvester winced, Donald announced he was taking possession of the

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>comic and did just that, collecting it in its manila folder.

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>The officers outside rushed in, making sure no one left.

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.400
<v Speaker 1>It was now up to Donald to determine the veracity

0:29:28.480 --> 0:29:32.440
<v Speaker 1>of Sylvester's story how he had gotten his hands on

0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:38.320
<v Speaker 1>the comic. The two spoke for maybe thirty minutes behind

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 1>closed doors. Stephen paced back and forth, the curiosity of

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:47.200
<v Speaker 1>a collector eating at him. Some art investigations are about

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.760
<v Speaker 1>finding the art, and strictly about finding the art. The

0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:55.959
<v Speaker 1>how of it all can get lost amid the investigator's caseload.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>But here was a direct line between the comic and

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 1>the and who claimed to have found it. Donald Harrisik

0:30:04.000 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 1>was a seasoned detective. If there was truth to be found,

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:12.240
<v Speaker 1>Stephen figured he'd be able to find it. When Donald

0:30:12.280 --> 0:30:15.880
<v Speaker 1>finished with Sylvester and walked out, Stephen went up to him,

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 1>eager to get the details, eager to share them with Cage,

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:22.800
<v Speaker 1>who was about to get some very good news. Stephen

0:30:22.880 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>half expected to see Sylvester being hustled away by officers,

0:30:27.040 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>dragged back to the station for further questionings, but Sylvester

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>just strolled out unescorted. At that point, Detective Horristic takes

0:30:37.880 --> 0:30:42.840
<v Speaker 1>the individual who remembers Arthur into another room. They probably

0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>spend about half an hour talking, and they talked to

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>Mark Allelo and Detective Horristic says, yeah, we're really not

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>able to get any more useful information. I said, I

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.120
<v Speaker 1>think this is a story that they can talk that

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>he says doable is, but they're not giving you any

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>more information about where they the Detective one or technically seven.

0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:12.200
<v Speaker 1>I believe that they knew it was stolen and they

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>had a cover story already in case it gets found out.

0:31:17.400 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Stephen wasn't sure he was hearing Donald correctly, and why

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 1>did Sylvester just get up and walk out? Pretty soon

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 1>everyone was clearing out of the warehouse. Donald returned to

0:31:30.120 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the L a p. D. Comic into Stephen immediately phone Cage,

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 1>who was enthusiastic about the news outside. I called Nick

0:31:40.920 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>and I told him that the Action One is now back,

0:31:44.840 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>and he was very very happy. It was a very

0:31:48.920 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 1>defeating feeling having his best book stolen out of his house,

0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and it was a bit of a victory getting the

0:31:57.640 --> 0:32:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Action One back, But even though the comic had been recovered,

0:32:01.640 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>things felt incomplete. While the comic belonged to Cage, he

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 1>had been paid by his insurance company, so really it

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:13.320
<v Speaker 1>belonged to them. And then and that was assuming Donald

0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>was prepared to return it. He had an investigation to

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 1>finish to see whether sylvester story held up. Donald still

0:32:21.640 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 1>needed to do one other thing. He phoned William Hughes,

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.560
<v Speaker 1>the man who had bought Action number one from Southebes

0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:34.160
<v Speaker 1>back in and asked for the catalog. Remember back in

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>episode four we mentioned southe Bees took a very precise

0:32:39.080 --> 0:32:42.080
<v Speaker 1>series of photos of this very comic book, and it

0:32:42.120 --> 0:32:45.400
<v Speaker 1>would make all the difference later in the story, well

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 1>my friends later is now. Donald wanted to use those

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>photos for comparison. In all, there were fifteen tiny but

0:32:54.840 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 1>distinct markings or irregularities unique to this copy, all of

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:05.080
<v Speaker 1>them painstakingly documented by the auction house. It was, as

0:33:05.120 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>Stephen said, a perfect match. Beyond all doubt. This was

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Cages comic. But how did a man named Sylvester find it?

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:20.480
<v Speaker 1>A better question nagged at Stephen. Had he really found

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 1>it at all? The story Sylvester told Donald Harresik was

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a fascinating one. He said he had discovered the Action

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:40.280
<v Speaker 1>number one in an abandoned storage unit he bought at auction.

0:33:41.240 --> 0:33:45.600
<v Speaker 1>This seems pretty straightforward. If he bought it at auction,

0:33:45.800 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 1>then you just try to locate the original owner. Of

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the locker to see what information they might have. After all,

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the comic was in their possession, right, the storage facility

0:33:56.520 --> 0:34:00.480
<v Speaker 1>would have those names, so would Dan Dotson. And even

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:03.520
<v Speaker 1>if they didn't remember that, Dan had to print the

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>names of the locker owners in the paper as a

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>legal requirement. So all Donald would have had to do

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 1>is go to the library to grab some back issues.

0:34:14.320 --> 0:34:19.120
<v Speaker 1>But here's the problem, the biggest problem. Sylvester said he

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>bought multiple storage units in March, and he simply didn't

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:27.400
<v Speaker 1>know which storage unit the comic had come from. Somehow

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the contents of all of the units had gotten all

0:34:30.640 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>mixed up. Here's Dan Dotson, That's what he had said.

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>And he had been coming around for a for a minute,

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:39.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, bought a lot of units from a

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of different facilities, so it was pretty impossible for

0:34:43.840 --> 0:34:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that time to figure out what or where I really

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.799
<v Speaker 1>was motivated to dig into it, figure anything out. To

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, I don't know which facility he

0:34:52.160 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 1>may have bought it from, and he said that he

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>bought it from one of ours, so I didn't have

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>any reason to doubt that. Here's Laura, because I've been

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 1>buying units and I put everything together because I was like, Wow,

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:04.560
<v Speaker 1>where did you buying it from? What did you get

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:06.720
<v Speaker 1>this from? What unit? And stuff from them? So excited

0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:09.320
<v Speaker 1>we like to put providence and put a story together,

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, because I just can't really tell you. I

0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:13.840
<v Speaker 1>just know that it was a bunch of units, and

0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>I got a bunch of stuff, and and he was

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:22.440
<v Speaker 1>buying a lot of stuff from my husband. Yeah, and

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:24.719
<v Speaker 1>my husband said, I've been selling until Sylvester has been

0:35:24.760 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 1>buying the heck out of units. So I just think, Wow,

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>he scored. Sylvester had bought a lot of ship, so

0:35:35.080 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 1>much ship that it co mingled, making pinpointing where the

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:43.000
<v Speaker 1>comic came from impossible. But if Sylvester didn't know which

0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:46.640
<v Speaker 1>storage unit the comic had come from, then Donald couldn't

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:50.120
<v Speaker 1>have any assurance. The people who owned the lockers, if

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>they could be found at all, wouldn't simply deny the

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>comic had been in their particular one. It was kind

0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>of like saying that the comic had just been found

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>in the street. The providence, the ability to gauge where

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>the comic came from it was lost. It was either

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>an incredible stroke of luck for the thief or one

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 1>of the better cover stories the detective had ever heard.

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>Here's Stephen Fishler. I don't believe that these guys gave

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 1>the detective any specific information about any storage unit. I

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>can't remember if they even indicated what facility they think

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the storage unit was. I don't remember that. But there

0:36:36.160 --> 0:36:42.840
<v Speaker 1>was definitely pretty much a dead end in terms of

0:36:42.920 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 1>investigating the storage unit. If you're if you're a police detective,

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>and you believe that this is a cover story and

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:53.240
<v Speaker 1>it really was never in a storage facility or storage unit,

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>you're not going to spend a bunch of time, you know,

0:36:57.080 --> 0:37:02.759
<v Speaker 1>dealing with the storage units. This isn't as unusual a

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 1>situation as it may seem. A lot of art has

0:37:06.080 --> 0:37:10.600
<v Speaker 1>been discovered over the years stolen art original art inside

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.799
<v Speaker 1>storage units. If you are in possession of a rare

0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:17.520
<v Speaker 1>item that's been liberated from its owner, you may not

0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>want to keep it on your property. So it's entirely

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:25.400
<v Speaker 1>possible someone decided the safest place for cages stolen action

0:37:25.440 --> 0:37:29.479
<v Speaker 1>comics number one was in a storage unit. But would

0:37:29.480 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>they simply then forget to pay the bill? Would you

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:35.560
<v Speaker 1>forget to pay the bill on the unit that had

0:37:35.719 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>a million dollars or more inside of it. Donald Herresik

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>was prepared to dig into this more, but then Mark Blelow,

0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:48.120
<v Speaker 1>the man whom Sylvester turned to for help with the comic,

0:37:48.800 --> 0:37:52.880
<v Speaker 1>made a move of his own. Mark recognized the value

0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:56.319
<v Speaker 1>of publicity in his line of work, and being the

0:37:56.480 --> 0:38:00.080
<v Speaker 1>co finder of Action Comics Number one was worth the

0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 1>of headlines. Before Donald could blink, Mark was talking to

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>the press. This made Donald very unhappy. In an interview

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of his own, he said he wished that Mark hadn't

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>opened his big mouth. The problem was if anyone else

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.520
<v Speaker 1>happened to be involved or knew where cages. Two remaining

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>comics were the Detective Number twenty seven and the Detective

0:38:23.120 --> 0:38:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Number one. They now knew the police were chasing a lead,

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.720
<v Speaker 1>but Mark was pretty happy to talk about it. In fact,

0:38:30.760 --> 0:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>he ran up to Laura Dotson not long after to

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:37.400
<v Speaker 1>tell her the news. And then Ballelo comes to one

0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>of my sales and he says, we'll never believe what happened.

0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 1>He says, you know, we're looking at that book and

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:43.759
<v Speaker 1>we're all inside the room, and then all of a

0:38:43.800 --> 0:38:47.319
<v Speaker 1>sudden he's telling us, yes, this is something great, and

0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, okay, the exchange is going to happen. We're

0:38:49.920 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 1>gonna make money. And you know, I had your husband

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.319
<v Speaker 1>in and you guys for a hundred thousand dollars. I

0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>was like, what like a commission and we had no clue.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. You know, usually I think, and well,

0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I guess this is how this game works. He goes,

0:39:01.560 --> 0:39:04.080
<v Speaker 1>but it all fell apart, like go really And he goes, well,

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that turned out that I thought he was going to

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:08.600
<v Speaker 1>say it was a fake. And he says, all of

0:39:08.640 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, the doors bust open and it was the

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.840
<v Speaker 1>FBI or the police, and they said this was stolen.

0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.319
<v Speaker 1>And he goes, oh my god. And I'm looking at

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:19.319
<v Speaker 1>the guy going, oh god, I'm so glad I didn't

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.480
<v Speaker 1>buy this comic book from him. If this was a

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>big scheme, Mark was pretty happy to talk about it.

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 1>He took a photo he had taken of the Action

0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Number one surrounded by antiques and used it to announce

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>an upcoming sale on Facebook, and then he dressed up

0:39:35.760 --> 0:39:39.080
<v Speaker 1>as Superman, Cape and all for one of his live auctions.

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:46.360
<v Speaker 1>As much as Donald hated the attention, Mark was loving it.

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't more than a few weeks before Donald ran

0:39:49.160 --> 0:39:53.320
<v Speaker 1>out of reasons to keep the comic. Sylvester story wasn't

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>something that could be proven or disproven, and the law

0:39:57.640 --> 0:40:00.160
<v Speaker 1>says that you're only in trouble for possession and of

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.720
<v Speaker 1>stolen material if you know it was stolen, you should

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.200
<v Speaker 1>have known it was stolen, or you admit to stealing it.

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Donald couldn't prove Mark or Sylvester knew it was Cages

0:40:11.880 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 1>comic or a stolen comic, and there was nothing linking

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the two back to the Night of Cages party in

0:40:17.880 --> 0:40:22.840
<v Speaker 1>two thousand. For Stephen, the news was bitter sweet. The

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>comic was back, but it came without much of an

0:40:26.120 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>explanation and whether the reason was Mark Ballelo talking or

0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:35.800
<v Speaker 1>something else, Stephen felt Donald wasn't that interested in chasing

0:40:35.920 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the only lead they had, very frustrating. And then when

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I finally called him up, the only reason he paid

0:40:43.280 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>attention was because I said, here's the name of the

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:50.360
<v Speaker 1>person who has here's the address there at they're offering

0:40:50.400 --> 0:40:53.080
<v Speaker 1>it to me. I'm flying out, I have a flight.

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.799
<v Speaker 1>You can't spell it out more than that. I think

0:40:56.040 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>who was stolen from? I think he took it seriously.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you know they might be overwhelmed, and unless

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:06.439
<v Speaker 1>they're given something super concrete, they don't have the time

0:41:06.520 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>to track everything down. Cage, for his part, declared the

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 1>discovery divine providence and hoped the heirloom his words would

0:41:15.640 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>be returned to his family. Reports indicated Cage had the

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>option of returning the money the insurance company had given

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:26.479
<v Speaker 1>him for the comic, possibly with inflation. If he did,

0:41:26.560 --> 0:41:29.480
<v Speaker 1>the comic would be handed back to him. In the

0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:33.839
<v Speaker 1>fourteen years since Cage first purchased it, Action Number one

0:41:33.880 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 1>had appreciated in value by a lot. Remember that Stephen

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Fishler sold two Action Number one for over a million

0:41:44.560 --> 0:41:48.279
<v Speaker 1>dollars each, neither in as good a condition as the

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Cage copy. Cage wanted the book back, but he didn't

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:58.240
<v Speaker 1>want to keep it, and the police had investigation for

0:41:59.280 --> 0:42:03.520
<v Speaker 1>a number of and kept it in a safe at

0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>a secure police location. And then I eventually, in another

0:42:10.440 --> 0:42:12.879
<v Speaker 1>trip to California, I came and picked up the book

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 1>when the police released it, and brought it back to

0:42:15.360 --> 0:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>New York, and we eventually sold it for Nick. The

0:42:19.680 --> 0:42:23.480
<v Speaker 1>sentimental value of the comic was probably still there for Cage.

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.800
<v Speaker 1>Once someone falls for Superman, they tend to admire him. Forever,

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>But by this point Cage's unusual approach to financial planning

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:38.840
<v Speaker 1>was well known. It involved spending. He admitted he loved

0:42:38.920 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 1>spending money on homes and cars and rarities. There were

0:42:43.840 --> 0:42:47.439
<v Speaker 1>reports he owned an island or two in the Bahamas.

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 1>He owned a gulf Stream Jet, four yachts, at one point,

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:57.799
<v Speaker 1>fifty cars, and his own mechanic. A Tyrannosaurus skull was

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 1>procured for two hundred and seven. The six thousand dollars

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>then returned when it was found to have been stolen

0:43:05.320 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>from Mongolia. Cage, of course, had no idea it was illicit.

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Buying hot dino bones was certainly expensive, but what really

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:20.239
<v Speaker 1>dampened cages spending was real estate. The market took a

0:43:20.280 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 1>bad turn, and the many properties he had became difficult

0:43:24.160 --> 0:43:28.360
<v Speaker 1>to maintain or sell off. Even the bell Air mansion

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>where the comic was originally stolen went up for sale.

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:35.480
<v Speaker 1>Cage didn't have much of a choice. He had eighteen

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:39.800
<v Speaker 1>million dollars in loans against it. It did eventually sell

0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:44.040
<v Speaker 1>for only a fraction of cages thirty five million dollar

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:48.879
<v Speaker 1>asking price, so Superman would have to be a savior.

0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:53.480
<v Speaker 1>In another way, Cage returned the money to the insurance company,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:56.359
<v Speaker 1>and then he put the comic up for auction with

0:43:56.440 --> 0:44:00.360
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Fishler. They submitted the book to the c g

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.240
<v Speaker 1>C The Last Word in third Party Comic Book Grading,

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.360
<v Speaker 1>where it received a nine out of ten at the time,

0:44:08.560 --> 0:44:12.799
<v Speaker 1>the highest ever awarded an action number one. In November

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 1>of two thousand eleven, the book fetched an incredible two

0:44:17.200 --> 0:44:21.680
<v Speaker 1>point one six one million dollars, a new record for

0:44:21.719 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a comic book sale, which undoubtedly helped Cage attend to

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:29.480
<v Speaker 1>at least a portion of his debt. This truly was

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:33.879
<v Speaker 1>divine providence. The comic found a new home with an

0:44:33.960 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 1>undisclosed buyer, one who would presumably take more precautions than

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.919
<v Speaker 1>Cage had in safe keeping it. Mark and Sylvester were

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 1>off the hook. Sylvester had seemed to materialize on the

0:44:47.600 --> 0:44:51.960
<v Speaker 1>auction scene suddenly, and after the comic deal turned sour,

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<v Speaker 1>he seemed to disappear just as quickly. Here's Laura Dotson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet it was something like, how often does this happen?

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<v Speaker 1>And we came across this and we just don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to sell it or get it appraised, And this

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<v Speaker 1>just fell into our lap from these units we've been

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<v Speaker 1>buying and I'm thinking, well, here comes another fantastic treasure

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<v Speaker 1>hunt story. And as quick as he came onto the

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<v Speaker 1>picture in the scene, I had never seen him again either.

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<v Speaker 1>There are questions left dangling. Did Mark really happen to

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<v Speaker 1>call Stephen Fishler by pappenstance? Did Sylvester really find the

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<v Speaker 1>comic in a storage locker? If he did, who did

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<v Speaker 1>the locker belong to? Stephen doesn't think there is an

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<v Speaker 1>original owner. I believe that they concocted the story as

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<v Speaker 1>a plausible cover, so they went all right, usual, I've

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<v Speaker 1>got this book. I'll just say it came from a

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<v Speaker 1>storage unit. That'll be it. But I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really believe that that was the case. But where the

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<v Speaker 1>book was, if I was to put together reasonable details,

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<v Speaker 1>left Nick's house. The person who stole it out of

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<v Speaker 1>the house sold it, and may have sold it to

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<v Speaker 1>the individual who had it all these years, who I

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<v Speaker 1>met and wanted a million dollars for. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it bounced around for many people. However, many people it

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<v Speaker 1>bounced around with. It landed with Sylvester and Mark. Sylvester

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<v Speaker 1>virtually disappeared and Mark Well Mark was already in some trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>trouble that ended tragically and under some slightly suspicious circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>To try to make sense of it, We're going back

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<v Speaker 1>to the warehouse, this time from the perspective of the

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<v Speaker 1>people who worked there. We're going to get more help

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<v Speaker 1>from a reformed art thief. And yes, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can find the elusive Sylvester and see

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<v Speaker 1>if he is finally ready to talk. But please don't

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<v Speaker 1>john me. As a current joined us called tweetcau as well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's next time on the finale of Stealing Superman. Stealing

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<v Speaker 1>Superman is written by Jake Rawson, sound design, scoring and

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<v Speaker 1>mixing by Josh Fisher, additional editing by Jonathan Washington, original

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<v Speaker 1>music by Aaron Kaufman, mixing and mastering by Baheed Fraser.

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<v Speaker 1>Research and fact checking by Jake Rawson and Austin Thompson,

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<v Speaker 1>with production support from Lulu Philip. Show logo by Lucy Quintinia.

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<v Speaker 1>Our executive producer is Jason English and I'm your host

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