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Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast pays It's fun. It's with

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Speaker 1: straight cash. Welcome back to another disition of the Round

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Speaker 1: League podcast. My name is Dan, have his time joint

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Speaker 1: badroom filled with heroes Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: What up boys, Dan? How are you buddy? Happy Monday?

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Speaker 1: It is a It is a happy Mond. Does it

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Speaker 1: feel like Monday to us? We've been having fun. It's

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Speaker 1: been fun day at the office. If you're a hip

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Speaker 1: hop fan, why what happened? Dj Easy Rock died over

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Speaker 1: the weekend? Who's that? From? Rob Base and DJ Easy Rock?

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Speaker 1: One of the ten greatest songs in hip hop history?

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Speaker 1: gen x for these reasons. When West chimes in with

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Speaker 1: the pop culture that was, I don't West and I

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Speaker 1: are the same age and in our high school years

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Speaker 1: a staple at any sort of high school event, not

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Speaker 1: just dances, but it would get blasted out over the

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Speaker 1: lunch room and other things. Is it possible, because you've

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Speaker 1: been writing a lot of tributes lately, that the A

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Speaker 1: I thought it had already passed away? Easy Rock Different?

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Speaker 1: I want to put together a greatest hits of West

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Speaker 1: singing on the podcast. This would make it. Also there

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Speaker 1: was the usher performance u um. By the way, guys

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Speaker 1: not to get off, and all due respect to the

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Speaker 1: great DJ Easy Rock who knew how to rocket short

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Speaker 1: shrift because everyone thinks of Rob Bass when that song

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Speaker 1: comes on. I know it happens all the time. Uh,

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Speaker 1: is it? Okay? We move on with football elements. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it feels weird in light of what West just brought up.

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Speaker 1: But okay, Greg, So the draft is ten days away.

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Speaker 1: How about that? I didn't know that until you told

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Speaker 1: me you're going to New York this weekend. Mark's going

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Speaker 1: to be joining you soon after that. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: Midtown hotel because the fame has hit special level since

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Speaker 1: you crossed the fifteen thousand marker on Twitter. It is

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Speaker 1: a particular nuisance, but it's the territory that we're in.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, we're gonna continue talking about the draft all

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Speaker 1: week as you as you would assume. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: else are we gonna talk about. It's not like the

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Speaker 1: NFL world is spinning out of control right now. Basically,

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Speaker 1: it's this weird there's a weird vibe going on if

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Speaker 1: you cover this league, because everybody is under under the

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Speaker 1: impression that the draft should have happened this past weekend

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Speaker 1: and now we're all kind of in this malaise where

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Speaker 1: we need to get to next Thursday. So it's just

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Speaker 1: like this weird in between quantum leap thing where you're

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Speaker 1: in the space time continue and floating. Nice use of malaise.

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Speaker 1: I think the malaise is over. The malaise was the

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Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. Now now that we're close enough

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Speaker 1: seriously though that it's next week and we can you're

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Speaker 1: think you're suggesting that maybe this would have been a

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Speaker 1: time for Dan not to be sunk in a malaise,

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Speaker 1: message sent, and it's very clear, So we're going to

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Speaker 1: what some surprises that we potentially see in store. Next

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Speaker 1: Thursday at Radio City Music Hall. We're gonna dip into

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Speaker 1: the mail bag. We did a little call out earlier

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Speaker 1: the gold Standard behind the glass. How are you, buddy,

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling great. Thanks, had a great weekend. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: you did a lot of soccer. You're wearing a cricket

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Speaker 1: you know, Zach, there will be no there will be

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Speaker 1: no love letters written to you, there will be no callers.

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Speaker 1: This be strictly about football, all right. You know. I

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Speaker 1: hate to just jump in here, but I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: our Twitter feed and someone just sent in something for

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Speaker 1: the A t L mail bag as you're talking. This

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Speaker 1: I think people, because you've said yourself that you've gotten

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Speaker 1: many followers from the podcast. Now those people just not

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Speaker 1: You still be you think that you have. There's now

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Speaker 1: some responsibility on your Twitter feed? All right? I like that.

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Speaker 1: All right, Why don't we do some news. It's like

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Speaker 1: we're accomplishing things. No, No No, we've worked through a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's do some news that Brown's general manager

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Speaker 1: Ray Farmer spoke to the media today. Johnny Football came up,

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Speaker 1: it's certainly He also praised him as in terms of character.

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Speaker 1: City had absolutely no reservations after meeting with him last week.

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Speaker 1: But I thought, you know, Cleveland and West had written

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Speaker 1: But he said, I whereever Johnny Football goes, I'm locked

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Speaker 1: Bucks do at number seven, whether they go wide receiver

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Speaker 1: or quarterback. Mhmm. Maybe they were listening to when Dan

428
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Speaker 1: uh used to really go after Mike Glennan's ability to dance?

429
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Speaker 1: Was it you thought he would come in last in

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Speaker 1: some sort of coordinations if there was well no coordination.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure his hand eye coordination is quite above average,

432
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Speaker 1: but his ability to dance and rhythm. If there were

433
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Speaker 1: a contest of NFL players, he would make Eli Manning

434
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Speaker 1: looked like Michael Jackson SARCA N seven. So he's like

435
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Speaker 1: the Mark Mattson of the NFL. He would make Mark

436
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Speaker 1: Mattson look like Bruno Mars. I mean, this is what

437
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Speaker 1: we're dealing with with Mike. Lynn's a high level athlete.

438
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Speaker 1: Actually he's He's very good avoiding pressure and throwing actually

439
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,120
Speaker 1: dancing in the pocket and dancing and rhythm to some

440
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Speaker 1: type of hip hop or young him Uh, what's the

441
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Speaker 1: what's his name? D DJ Easy Rock Shout out to Heaven.

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00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: That's a totally different scenario then, you know, evading a

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Speaker 1: pass rusher. That's all I'm saying. You know a lot

444
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Speaker 1: about dancing. Well, I I'm not saying that I'm an expert,

445
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Speaker 1: but you know, they brought in Josh McCown, who I

446
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Speaker 1: imagine is a great dancer. I mean, he's good at

447
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Speaker 1: Duncan basketballs. I just have a feeling. I don't know

448
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Speaker 1: what's happened here, but you know you you mentioned Sammy Watkins,

449
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Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna try to dig us out of

450
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Speaker 1: the I I think that the Bucks logically are an

451
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Speaker 1: excellent match with Watkins. I don't think he ever gets

452
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Speaker 1: to number seven, So if they're gonna trade up, maybe

453
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Speaker 1: it's for someone like that. But I think Detroit, who

454
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Speaker 1: has talked a blue streak about Watkins for weeks, they

455
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Speaker 1: bring him in for a visit, the owner sits down

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Speaker 1: and meets with him. I mean, they've given him the

457
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Speaker 1: full on treatment. Where there at number ten, there's no

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Speaker 1: way they get him at number ten. So unless why

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Speaker 1: would you try to position yourself as a team that's

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Speaker 1: gonna trade up showing that you're desperate for a guy,

461
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Speaker 1: Unless you're really really that into this dude. I think

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Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions want to get out of the situation

463
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Speaker 1: they've been in the past few years where you had

464
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Speaker 1: Megatron and no one else. You now got Golden Tate.

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Speaker 1: That's an out standing duo right there. You put Watkins

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Speaker 1: into that, and Stafford has no more excuses this. This

467
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Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell coaching higher was brought in to change this offense.

468
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Speaker 1: Watkins puts them at an you talk about the Redskins

469
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Speaker 1: is maybe the number one receiving core right now if

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Speaker 1: you added Watkins, two, Megatron and Golden Tate. So that's

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Speaker 1: my number one. So the missing piece and Detroit is

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Speaker 1: playmakers and scoring points and moving down the field. That's

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Speaker 1: where I don't get this one. I'm with you on this.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy it. You didn't spend thirty million dollars

475
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Speaker 1: on Golden Tape to make him your third or fourth

476
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Speaker 1: option in the passing game, fIF option whatever. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They still have major problems on defense. I don't get

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Speaker 1: why they would trade up for a wide receiver. I'm

479
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Speaker 1: not saying it's their only need, but I think what

480
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Speaker 1: they're looking at is in the way the game is today.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna overload in the passing game. We're gonna give

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Speaker 1: our franchise quarterback not only a ton of targets, but

483
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Speaker 1: Megatron is not gonna be around for another twenty five years. Either.

484
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Speaker 1: We've got we're continuing to grow this position. Is it

485
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Speaker 1: the number one need? I don't know. But he's if

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Speaker 1: it's the player they fall on. Love what we see

487
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Speaker 1: that happen all the time. You don't draft for need.

488
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Speaker 1: It's part of the reason why this draft sets up

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Speaker 1: to be one of the most exciting that we've seen

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Speaker 1: in the last five or ten years, because there's so

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Speaker 1: many guys in the top ten that in normal drafts

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Speaker 1: would be the guy you trade up for. Sammy Watkins

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Speaker 1: is one of those guys, Cosel said. Some some guys

494
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Speaker 1: in the NFL think he is the best wide receiver

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Speaker 1: prospect since Calvin Johnson, and there's other people that think

496
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Speaker 1: Greg Robinson is the most talented tackle prospect in five years.

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Speaker 1: And you go through the positions and there's so many

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Speaker 1: guys that make sense to move up for from ten

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Speaker 1: to two or ten too three. Watkins is definitely one

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Speaker 1: of those guys. It would be fun. It'll be interesting

501
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Speaker 1: if they if they ever did that and they stacked

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Speaker 1: all around Stafford and then Stafford had another season similar

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Speaker 1: to this past season. You wonder how much heat would

504
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Speaker 1: start going under that guy. He and he and Sam

505
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Speaker 1: Bradford would be on a small, tiny boat sailed out

506
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Speaker 1: to the ocean. It's over, babe. All right, I'll do

507
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Speaker 1: my next I what West is gonna go nuts? When

508
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Speaker 1: I talked about this one, because I know this is

509
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Speaker 1: not something West is behind. But I have a feeling,

510
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Speaker 1: in spite of all their other issues that and this

511
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Speaker 1: is not an original thought per se, because I know

512
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Speaker 1: it's out there in other realms. But the Dallas Cowboys

513
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Speaker 1: and Johnny Football are a match on multiple levels. To me,

514
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Speaker 1: I don't buy into Caleb Haney or Brandon Weeden. I

515
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Speaker 1: don't think Kyle Orton is uh. You know, they don't

516
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Speaker 1: even know if he's coming back. We have a starting

517
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Speaker 1: quarterback who's thirty four years old and coming off his

518
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Speaker 1: second back surgery. You talked about the Cowboys need needs

519
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Speaker 1: all over the field, quarterbacks a huge need. They like

520
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Speaker 1: to make a splash. Jerry Jones, it's Jerald World. We

521
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Speaker 1: gotta bring people into the seats for the next ten

522
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Speaker 1: fifteen years. Johnny Football in play potentially. I know they're

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Speaker 1: picking when pick eighteen, No, that's the Jets. The Cowboys

524
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Speaker 1: are at sixteen. He might last that long, but I

525
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Speaker 1: would think that they would even read the tea leaves

526
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Speaker 1: and maybe make a move to move up if they

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Speaker 1: think they can go get him. My favorite annual tradition

528
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Speaker 1: in the NFL is the Bengals losing on the opening

529
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Speaker 1: Saturday of the playoffs. But my second favorite annual tradition

530
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Speaker 1: is which iteration of the Cowboys are going to trade

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Speaker 1: up the draft a quarterback to replace Romo, which has

532
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Speaker 1: been going on for at least four or five years now.

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Speaker 1: I remember when they were gonna trade up to draft

534
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Speaker 1: Cam Newton because Romo was gonna be replaced. This is

535
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Speaker 1: every year, it's a different quarterback that they supposedly love,

536
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: and they just handed Romo like twenty million a year.

537
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: But that was silly when if the I don't even

538
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Speaker 1: remember the Cam Newton thing. I trust you, but like

539
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: obviously you weren't gonna do it when Romo was twenty

540
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 1: nine and was was still an ascended player. But now

541
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Speaker 1: he's older and Johnny Menzel is not like any other

542
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Speaker 1: QB prospect. He's a guy that comes with a lot

543
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Speaker 1: of glitz and glamour, and I think Jerry is attracted

544
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Speaker 1: to that. So I think while they need to fix

545
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: a lot of different places, this is not one other

546
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Speaker 1: point about the Cowboys. I want to I want to

547
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Speaker 1: say that DeMarcus where letting him leave um. The fact

548
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people see the Cowboys as a

549
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: team that's not close to winning. What if the Cowboys

550
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: aren't stupid and they see that as well, and they're

551
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: gonna start looking toward the future now and has come

552
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: out and said we are ready to win, We're we're

553
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Speaker 1: a playoff contender. Well, because they just gave Tony Romo

554
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Speaker 1: all sorts of guaranteed money. It's the biggest base salary

555
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Speaker 1: this year, the huge signing bonus. He's do seventeen million

556
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: dollars this year. If you cut or traded, you could

557
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: trade him in theory, but if you cut Tony Romo,

558
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 1: you're taking a monster capit that they couldn't They're committed.

559
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: You said it was a need. Quarterback is the last need.

560
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: They have a great player at quarterback. Why why have

561
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys going eight and eight in each of the

562
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: past three years instead of eleven and five because defense?

563
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: Because they get injured and they have no one to

564
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Speaker 1: back them up. There the shallowest roster in the NFL.

565
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: They never have anyone to back up their stars. They're

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Speaker 1: very star heavy team. And if you if you trade

567
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Speaker 1: up for Johnny Football, there's more draft picks. You're surrending,

568
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: You're surrendering. You don't have depth. Again, I'll ask you

569
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Speaker 1: this then, and you're making a lot of sense. But

570
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Speaker 1: if you forbid, we're at pick right, We're at pick fifteen,

571
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Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are up next, and Manzel still on

572
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Speaker 1: the board. Is made? Manzel still on the board? Are

573
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Speaker 1: you shocked at that point if they took Yes, because

574
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 1: the money invested, and because next year's quarterback class is

575
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Speaker 1: supposed to be even better. They always say they said

576
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Speaker 1: that about this class. It's another annual tradition. I don't

577
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: you could? You could draft him and then trade him.

578
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: That always well, I think that I think that Romo

579
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: is not getting any younger. But the way that the

580
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: it's one situation where when Jerry Jones speaks glowingly of

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo, I believe it. I think he really does

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Speaker 1: think that Tony Romo is the kind of cornerback that

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Speaker 1: does put his money wear his mouth. I think so too,

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Speaker 1: And that's I think the money is the issue that

585
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: prevents this. All right, Greg? Yes, d Greg? What is

586
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Speaker 1: your choice of the team that could surprise Well, I'm

587
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: not gonna go with the specific team or a specific player.

588
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say something that could happen in the

589
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: first round, and that's only two quarterbacks get drafted. Maybe

590
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a shock, but we've seen four

591
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Speaker 1: or five in some of these mocks. I think Bordles

592
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: and Manzel both go early. Manzel is not lasting the sixteen.

593
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Speaker 1: They're both gone in the top ten, maybe top seven.

594
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: But that's it. There's none of this trading back into

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Speaker 1: the first round, and there's none of this second crop

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that gets everyone so excited that you got

597
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Speaker 1: to take them there. I think there's such great depth

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00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: of this quarterback class that, just like last year, the

599
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks will all go later than people thought. Everyone thought

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Speaker 1: Gino would go earlier other quarterbacks, and teams are smart,

601
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Speaker 1: they'll wait, they'll take the better players first. So Bridgewater's

602
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: second round, he would be second round everyone's second round.

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Speaker 1: Would you see him being the first one to go

604
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Speaker 1: in the second round. I'd like to think so. I

605
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: like the sound of him, But I'm no draft draft expert.

606
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Speaker 1: I could see Derek Carr being the third quarterback off

607
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Speaker 1: the board. Is there such thing as a draft expert

608
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: NFL films executive, I don't know, it's like being a

609
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: fantasy football expert. Quarterbacks are the toughest things to project

610
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: in these drafts. People get so wrong. No one had

611
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Speaker 1: Ponder or Locker anywhere near the top twelve. Uh, no

612
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: one had Tim Tebow going ahead of Jimmy Clawson. That

613
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: was a stunner. At the time that Tebow went in

614
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Speaker 1: the first round, people thought Clawson was. It was a

615
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: lock for the first So usually the quarterbacks tend to

616
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Speaker 1: go a little later, but it's always a surprise. That

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Speaker 1: would set up a second round where I think would

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Speaker 1: be an outrage as second round where there's a massive

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Speaker 1: run on signal callers. You've got maybe five, six, seven

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Speaker 1: go in the first fifteen six picks, didn't That'd be fun,

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Speaker 1: be good for our Friday midday speculation articles, which will

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Speaker 1: be pounding out on the guitars solo. Um. All right,

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Speaker 1: before we go, why don't we hit the mail bag

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00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: as we promised the gold centers. That sound like a

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00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: good idea to you. I would love to do that,

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00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: thank you. If he said no, Dan shut it down,

627
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: we'd walk out at it because we trust him implicitly.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. We'll start out with NFL brit view.

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Speaker 1: So many listeners shout out to the Europeans that listen

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Speaker 1: listen to our shore show, and the Australians and really

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Speaker 1: everywhere everywhere around the globe. Thanks guys. Right while we're

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Speaker 1: on that, why don't we just talk about the map now?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, why don't you hit that. I'm getting a

634
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Speaker 1: lot of questions about our listener map, which you know,

635
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Speaker 1: has been delayed longer than I expected because of the

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Speaker 1: logistics of the studio. We had the map, we had

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Speaker 1: the pins we had it all set up to put

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Speaker 1: up in the map would not stick in the wall.

639
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,360
Speaker 1: So we had to buy a corkboard that finally arrived.

640
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: So now we're probably clicky tape hit this thing. Well,

641
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people are asking, So I'm telling you

642
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: we've got everything now, and once the draft is over,

643
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: then I can put pull my spreadsheet out, pull all

644
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: the pins in, and we'll take a picture and send

645
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, so don't worry. West still has everyone

646
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: that's sent into us where they are. It's still logged

647
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: in somewhere in some supercomputer in West's laboratory, and we

648
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: have the materials. I have a corkboard right behind me,

649
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: right here that was purchased using the A t L

650
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: account by the boss or by his own personal spending account,

651
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: which was quite kind. Oh yeah, big money that thing.

652
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in debt for a while. Yeah. So

653
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: I guess that's what you're saying, is this is gonna

654
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: get done. It's just it's become more of a process,

655
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: not a motivational issue for you. You You haven't lost interest

656
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: in this pursuit. I have plenty of interest in this pursuit.

657
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: I just want to check. Alright, So at NFL Britton

658
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: view tweets and this is interesting. I like this one.

659
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: Can I join the go get my lunch bets with this?

660
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: The last part there was supposed to be implied the

661
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys get no more than three wins. Is he willing

662
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: to eat his softball pants? No? This is a sandwich bet.

663
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: So this would be so we would have to send

664
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: him sandwiches if we lose in he would have to say, yeah,

665
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: I would take that. I'll take that. He would have

666
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: to send us a sandwich. Well, we could work on

667
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: that later, because I would. I don't think you with

668
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: Tony Romo quarterback, you're gonna win more than three wins.

669
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: A quarterback thing maybe he's predicting another Tony Romo back

670
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: injury or well that's well, then he got Johnny Football

671
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: coming in right behind them, So then we're all set

672
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: four winds, four wins. Yeah, we will all take you

673
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: up on this NFL brit view. Um, if you are

674
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: man enough to man up if it doesn't go. Yeah,

675
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: I think I want one of those bond Me sandwiches

676
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: from the restaurant about a mile down was delicious. Yeah,

677
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: don't be given us any bangers, and we're going to

678
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: get a sandwich sent semil from Britain. Well he can

679
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: just order delivery through that might be place around here. Yeah.

680
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's a great idea. It's a low level book

681
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: rate mailing where you'd send it on a boat. You're

682
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 1: always it always goes back to the water for you.

683
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Yea life you must have been like a marine merchant

684
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: or something. Chris noticed it that in that in many

685
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: of your post there's analogies to men a drift that

686
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: see on a little I don't know what you think

687
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: it's apt. Uh. Here's a draft question from Patrick Copp

688
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: at Patrick Copp obviously a cult spend. What direction do

689
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: you think the cult should go with? Their pick in

690
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: the second round. Of course they don't have a first

691
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: round pick because of Trent Richardson. Where would you go

692
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: if you were a Cults team that's right at the

693
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: bubble of becoming a real contender. Where do they have

694
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: to address right now? That team needs a safety, They

695
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: need a center to They do need a center, They

696
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: need everything on defense. What do they have on defense

697
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: that you're like, they're set there? They need outside, don't

698
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 1: need another one of many directions right now? They are

699
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: set at defensive end. I don't even think that's true

700
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: because they've got Arthur Jones now Ricky Jean France Wall. Well,

701
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: they weren't in love. Well Warner last year at outside

702
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: linebacker wasn't perfect. You've got you need that, But for me,

703
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: you lose Antoine to the forty niners. You need a safety,

704
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: all right? I take it back. They're set at defensive end,

705
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: any defensive position except defensive end. Yeah, you need a

706
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 1: cornerback really anything. They're lousy defense, Yeah you got you're

707
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: talking them up like they're not a very good team

708
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: at all. They have a lot of depth issues on tea.

709
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: When Art Blunt has the game of his career against you,

710
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: you've got some problems when when Alex Smith puts up

711
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: forty five in the playoff game. I mean, they're a

712
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 1: pretty bad defense and Pocano is supposed to be a

713
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: defensive coach. I got this tweets from David Mobley at

714
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: Saints six three two one three. Uh. Immediately I marked

715
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 1: and I'll show the guys that four mark because I

716
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: thought this was right in his skill set. Can you

717
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: name the top ten small school guys and what team's

718
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: interest slash best fit mark boy. I felt like that

719
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: was right in your wheelhouse. Very high on Troy's young

720
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: linebacker from Troy de Marcus Ware. No, no, no, this

721
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: is they've called. They've made that comparison. William Galubi sounds

722
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: like an assassin from the ninth potential late round nugget.

723
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: Put on your Nolan Naraqi hat here and give me

724
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 1: a little breakdown of some of the character assassinated. Well, no,

725
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: it's not that it's his character, but he is easily

726
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: swayed because he lives in a house full of essentially

727
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 1: novelists and poets, and they're trying to sway him away

728
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: from football. This is like, no, he literally has other

729
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: things that are more important to him in football. So

730
00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,320
Speaker 1: this is some sort of writer workshop like Commune is

731
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 1: a workshop at times, but really they do everything together,

732
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: shared meals can be so this level of line. I'm

733
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: just saying, you can get this guy to focus on football.

734
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,959
Speaker 1: You have a potential steal in the third or fourth.

735
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was Martin Burge who had that scatter

736
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: report as a as a reader though, do you think

737
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: the world might be losing more if he steps away

738
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: from the arts? That's his personal struggle. I don't know. Okay,

739
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: here's a question. I can answer this one. Thank you, Mark,

740
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: I knew I could trust you that. Um moving forward,

741
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: I'll answer this one. Can we have a This is

742
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: from drog Or Derek Robinson at twenty three. Can we

743
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: have a soccer quiz for all the guys in studio

744
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: orchestrated by the gold Standard. The answer is no, Yeah, yeah,

745
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: we don't have ratings on these things. But if we did,

746
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: I don't. We don't tell out of our wheelhouse and Zack,

747
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,839
Speaker 1: you know that is not a slide at you. It's

748
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 1: just it's not gonna happen on this completely understand. But

749
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: there will come a day when the people will revolt

750
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to deal with those consequences. And yeah,

751
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: and I don't want to get because I always get

752
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: a couple of tweets whenever there's something soccer related, whether

753
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: it's writing about it on the blog, on the site

754
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: or doing the podcast. There's no problem with soccer here.

755
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: We like soccer. I can't wait for the World Cup.

756
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: I love watching USA getting up early and going to

757
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: a bar having some SuDS, but I'm not fanatical about it.

758
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: And I think everyone agrees that there's only room enough

759
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: in our lives for one sport, one fall. I think

760
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: what you really like is the SuDS part of that equator. Yeah,

761
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: the it is fun. If you've ever gone to a

762
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: bar at six am and the bar is filled with people,

763
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: it's pretty funny. I'm still in the bar at six am.

764
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 1: That's a different bar experience. And finally, this is from

765
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: a longtime listener and a good man, Neil Dutton at

766
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 1: and Dutton thirteen. And this is a thinker fellas. This

767
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: will be our last one. Out of all the football

768
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 1: people you guys have met, has been the most different

769
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: from his public persona. I will jump in right away.

770
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall was a delight when he came in the studio.

771
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if that makes him much different than

772
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: his persona, because I feel like he has, you know,

773
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: now that he's kind of gotten his life on track.

774
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 1: Get there's a lot of rave reviews about who he

775
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: is as a person. When he was in here, he

776
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 1: was funny and engaging and was totally into it and

777
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: was a great dresser. And I enjoyed Brandon Marshall. He

778
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: was good. I can the the guy that comes to

779
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: mind quick for me. When I was uh ear in

780
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: my early days here, I got to interview Kellen Winslow

781
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 1: and obviously it heard all the ups and downs about

782
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: him and someone specifically in the office. I am me

783
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: and said, look out, I don't think it's a good

784
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 1: assignment for you. This guy is bad news. And if

785
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: he starts to get ugly with you, don't feel wrong

786
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: about just walking out on the interview. So I walked over. Well, no,

787
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 1: this was someone get some one who've been around the block,

788
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,399
Speaker 1: and I felt kind of concerned. I go in. He

789
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: was a delight, very honest, answers, willing to answer any question,

790
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: and a humble guy. I don't know completely different from

791
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: what I was told. Kellen Winslows anybody for you, I

792
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: haven't met many football people since doing this job. What

793
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: about Greg? Exactly what you would think he would be?

794
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: That's good? Is that? Is that a compliment? That sounds

795
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 1: like you can know you guys worked together for years

796
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: and never mat That's true. That's a good question. Greg

797
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: is about what I expected. Yeah, we worked together. Yeah, yeah,

798
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I didn't mean that to be he is

799
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: with Greg's a smart guy. He's a smart guy. I

800
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: trust his voice on matters. So yeah, Greg is who

801
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he was. I moved across the country.

802
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: I moved across the country, negative self out here across

803
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: the country for him was right, that's rovantic. I think

804
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: that's a good way to end it. But I would

805
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 1: say Brandon Marshall echo yours. I was a big critic

806
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: of his for a long time for his off the

807
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: field activities, and he struck me when he sat here

808
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: as a man who was in a very good place

809
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: in his life, who's had to come to reach some

810
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: not too pleasurable, not too pleasant conclusions about his own

811
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: life and had to change things. And he did finally

812
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and then that's been around the world multiple times.

813
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: That might be an upsell, but you know, total lie.

814
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 1: Uh David calledwell. I thought he was just gonna be

815
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: a big, raging a hole, but he turned out No,

816
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't really uh No. The first name

817
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 1: that came to mind was Deverie Henderson, and I couldn't

818
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: come up with better answer than that. He doesn't really

819
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: have a public persona. But he's not the guy that

820
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: I would have expected to be a quiet team leader

821
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: that everyone on the team looked to and was fascinated

822
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: and talk to. And that was the case when I

823
00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 1: went and covered that Super Bowl, So that stuck out

824
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: Deveri and the and that is good and one guy

825
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: will throw him in just because he's a hero of mine.

826
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: Joe Namath was exactly what his public persona was, um

827
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: non non Susie Colbert related. But in terms of you know,

828
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: when I met him before the Super Bowl at NFL

829
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: Honors last year, the guy couldn't have been more nice.

830
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget that. You know, he called me

831
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: by my name and kept eye contact the whole time

832
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: and was just such a cool dude. And you don't

833
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: expect that from somebody at that level. So shout out

834
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 1: to Joe Namath because I know you're a big listener.

835
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 1: And that's it. That's it for the podcast. He did

836
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: have some breaking news, and I know we'll have to

837
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: be quick about it. But as we leave the podcast studio,

838
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,919
Speaker 1: we are learning Ian Rappaport's supporting Earl Thomas signing a

839
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: blockbuster long term extension. Will easily be the highest paid

840
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: safety in football. He deserves and and look out now

841
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: because Richard Sherman wants his money. And now that care

842
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,920
Speaker 1: of Earl Thomas first, and we'll see how Richard deals

843
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: with us, and then next year Russell Wilson. Right, I

844
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,240
Speaker 1: don't know if Sherman's gonna get his deal in time.

845
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: Maybe they just let it ride and you franchise him

846
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: because you gotta get the Wilson deal. That's obviously, that's

847
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,880
Speaker 1: a must. You speak with your wallet. Though they're saying

848
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: Thomas is the most valuable guy. They always say that

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Speaker 1: in the press, how he's the m v P and

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Speaker 1: everything he does, and now they're showing it. They're making

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Speaker 1: him the priority over Shure. I think he's been the

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Speaker 1: key to their defense for a few years now, Earld

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Speaker 1: Thomas is the fastest safety in the game, covers way

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Speaker 1: more ground than any other safety. All right, that was good,

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Speaker 1: some late breaking news on the Ahail podcast and now

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Speaker 1: we are out of here. We will be back on

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Speaker 1: Wednesday talk some more draft and anything that's going on

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Speaker 1: in the NFL world. Is Dan Hanson signing off for

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Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Sizzlers, the Boss, and the gold standers

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Speaker 1: behind the glass. So wasn't it feels like you get

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Speaker 1: to eat a picnic off? He doesn't