1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to a numbers game with Ryan Gardusky. Happy Monday, everyone, 2 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: rise and grind I know we're late in the day, 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: so both you've already risen and grinded. I have new 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: polling numbers, which is always great way to start the week. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: This poll comes from Beacon and Shaw. It was published 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: by Fox News. By the way, I'm going to start 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: talking about polls by who does them, not just the 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: company that produces and releases them, right, because Fox News 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: is the publisher, but they don't actually do the poll. 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: And people dismiss polls when they see certain media outlets 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: have published them, but that's not who does them. Beacon 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and Shaw does the poll, and they're moderately good polster. 13 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: They're not the best in the business, but they're certainly 14 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: not the worst. So anyway, interesting numbers worth looking at. 15 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: The poll finds that Donald Trump has a forty six 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: percent favorability rating fifty four percent unfavorable right now. Now, 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: this poll does not include undecided I'm not a big 18 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: fan of poles that don't have undecided voters in them, 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: but forty six percent, nonetheless are is a decent number 20 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: for Trump. His best issues remain immigration, the border, and crime. 21 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: But Trump's worst issues are the cost of living, Russia, Ukraine, war, tariffs, 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: and the economy. I now remember what I told you 23 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: when we had our conversation about data centers. This was 24 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 1: last week or maybe the week prior. At this point, 25 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: I total the cost of living and energy bills and 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: food prices was becoming the main issue in the Virginia 27 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: and New Jersey governors races, and that could spread to 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: nationally as this issue continues to mount going into the 29 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six midterms. Energy prices are only going to 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: go up as data centers are springing up throughout the country. 31 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: I said, the media has done a very good job 32 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: at framing the conversation around tariffs, but when we look 33 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: at things like food, yes we import certain food products 34 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: like bananas, for example, but we also grow a lot 35 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: of our own food and prices have risen as electricity 36 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: cost at grocery stores have also increased. According to the 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: Beacon Shaw poll released by Fox News, the economy is 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: the most important issue to voters' minds by like a mile. Right, 39 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: It's not even close. Forty percent almost forty percent say 40 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: that they had that the economy is number one. Immigration, 41 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: is a very very distant second with thirteen percent. Now, 42 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: the poll was taken from September sixth to September ninth, 43 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 1: obviously before the assassination of Charlie Kirk. And while I 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,239 Speaker 1: think the economy will remain the most important issue facing 45 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: voters certainly this November, the assassination is different than other 46 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: political events, the things that you know, people have made 47 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: issues of, but the media really has made an issue of. 48 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: But then you know, real voters never cared. They were 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: nothing Burgers, right. They like to harp on this for 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: ratings and retweets and clicks, things like the National Guard 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: in DC. People really didn't get up in arms, you know, 52 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: maybe outside of a few progressives in Washington, d C. 53 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: But it wasn't what people were talking about over the 54 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: kitchen table at dinner every night. Charlie's murder has had 55 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:21,359 Speaker 1: a profound impact on people in a way that's not 56 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: not like these other events. Not just people who were 57 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: close to him or people like me who knew him. 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: But even though I wasn't particularly close to him, but 59 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: I knew him. I was at a wedding over the 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: weekend and it was mostly conservative people, but strangers who 61 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: I did not know, who I never met, were walking 62 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: up to me wanting to talk about Charlie. Now, obviously 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm a pretty identifiable conservative person, especially if you've seen 64 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: some of my clips. But millions of people have started 65 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: following Charlie Kirks and his wife, Erica, and the Turning 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: Point in USA social media pages in the wake of 67 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: his murder. Yeshah Ali reported that Charlie Instagram has gained 68 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: more than five million new followers, Erica has gained four 69 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: point six million, and Turning Point USA has gained two 70 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: point two million. It's been wildly reported that more than 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: thirty two thousand requests have come in to Turning Point 72 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: to start new college chapters. That's wild. That's something different. 73 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: And then there's all the reports that people went to 74 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: church this week, and I know a few people, but 75 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: that's anecdotal. There's no been, no study or no hard 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: data to work that in. I do know a few 77 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: people who don't usually go to church who went to 78 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: church in this last weekend. But something feels different, and 79 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: not just among conservatives but people in general. I will 80 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: tell you I spoke to some very well known conservative 81 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: friends of mine, people who have large followings people who 82 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: are on television and have big social media handles, and 83 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: we talked about the feeling of being unsafe, which I 84 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: have felt for a while long before Charlie's murder. Conservative creators, 85 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: conservative commentators I did easily at Dentifoul, Conservative conservative politicians 86 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 1: who I've spoken to, feel like there's a target on 87 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: our back. I will say from my own personal experience 88 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: that I did a debate for Young Voices with Michael 89 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: Tracy a couple months ago after the New Year, and 90 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: it was my first experience since being canceled on CNN 91 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: that I did a public appearance, and I'm telling you, 92 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: I was very nervous. I kept on asking the organizers 93 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: about security, what's the state of our security, and they 94 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: all said was like, it's fine, don't worry. And when 95 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: I showed up, there was no security there, and it 96 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 1: turned out to be fine. Everything turned out to be okay. 97 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: But my concerns were real and they weren't taken seriously. 98 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: I knew how dangerous it was. I've not told people 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: about this, and I don't want to make a thing 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: out of it, but after my scene and appearance where 101 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: I made the beeper joke, I did not realize that 102 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: my personal Instagram, where I don't even post about politics 103 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: as dms, were open and I received in the night 104 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: that percept. The night after the scene en joke, when 105 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: I went to bed, I looked at my phone. Next day, 106 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: I had well over a thousand hateful messages sent to 107 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: me and many many death threats. People got a hold 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: of my phone number. Family members of my phone number 109 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: started calling and leavening threatening messages, harassing them. I ended 110 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: up right after that, you know. I walked my dog 111 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: the next day and someone random person screamed at me 112 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: in a park and said, you know, f CNN, and 113 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 1: they were taking my side. But it was very alarming 114 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: that someone identify me. I'm not I'm not someone who's 115 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: very famous, you know what I mean. I'm not somebody 116 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: who I'm not at Charlie's level, and I never was, 117 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: and I never pretend to be. Charlie had twenty times 118 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: the audience that I had on Twitter at the time 119 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: of his death, and I shaved my and I went 120 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: on a long extended vacation out of the country and 121 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: no one recognized me. And it took me a while, 122 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: and thankfully the election happened, and it went well, and 123 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: everyone kind of forgot. But I'll speak on behalf of 124 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: a lot of conservatives and say that the only difference 125 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: between Charlie and us is how big of a target 126 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: we have. It's not a question of if there's a target, 127 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: it's how big is it. It feels dangerous right now. 128 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: It feels concerning, and it got me thinking about political 129 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: assassinations and political violence. Over the weekend, I started reading 130 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: a book called Days of Rage, America's Underground, the FBI, 131 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence by Brian Burrow. 132 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: It's a long book, so I'm not done with it yet, 133 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: but it talks with the nineteen sixties and seventies and 134 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: the turbulent decade in American history that I people have, 135 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: people including me, feel like we're kind of kind of there, 136 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, we feel like we're there again. I'm only 137 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: five chapters in the book. I could say we're not 138 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: at the nineteen seventies level. According to Days of Rage, 139 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: America had dozens of progressive domestic terrorist groups seeking to 140 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: overthrow the government of the United States, And of course 141 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,840 Speaker 1: there was really famous ones like the Weather or Underweather, 142 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: Underground and the Black Panthers, but there were a lot 143 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: of lesser known ones, the Sudanese Liberation Army, the Black 144 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: Liberation Army, United Freedom Front, the Puerto Rican Independence Army, 145 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: and the George Jackson Parade, and these groups were very 146 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: violent and they intended to overthrow the government. During an 147 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: eighteen month period from nineteen seventy one to nineteen seventy two, 148 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: there were twenty five hundred bombings domestic bombings in the 149 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: United States. Bombings happened so frequently, almost five per day 150 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: in the country that the media didn't even frequently publish 151 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: them unless people died. And thankfully, most of these times 152 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: so these bombings didn't result in death. Only one percent did. 153 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: The largest bombing only had four deaths, So it wasn't 154 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 1: It wasn't like we're seeing like mass shootings right where 155 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: a dozen people could die or or ten people could die, 156 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: and they often always result in deaths of some sort. 157 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: There was very few deaths related to these bombings, thankfully. 158 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: A man named Samuel Melville was the man who created 159 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: the style of bombing attacks used by the Weatherman Underground 160 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: and other leftist revolutionary groups. He was responsible for ten 161 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: bombings between July and November nineteen sixty nine, and he 162 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: later died in the attic of prison riots in nineteen 163 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: seventy one. There were other things that happened that I 164 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: had never even heard of, like in nineteen sixty one, 165 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: sixty Black Nationals stormed the United Nations General Council and 166 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: the incident led to dozens of injuries. There was also 167 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: the Zebra murders, where a black gang in San Francisco 168 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: was targeting and murdering white people. It was really violent, 169 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: more violent than people remember. I think what's interesting about 170 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: the book and comparing its circumstances then to what's happening now, 171 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: is as different and certainly less violent as it is now. 172 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: As far as the magnitude, we're not experiencing twenty five 173 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: hundred bombings in eighteen months. The roots of the problem 174 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: feel very similar. Like myself, a lot of people like 175 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: myself thought that the Vietnam War was the main actor 176 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: in this level of political violence, but it's actually very little. 177 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: According to the book, the Vietnam War was part of it, 178 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: but it was also almost affront by these revolutionary socialists 179 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: who wanted to overthrow the government. They were using it 180 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: as a grievance, but the main source of why they 181 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: were trying to overthrow the government was to combat racism. 182 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 1: Right they were talking about racism as the main central principle. 183 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: They wanted black authenticity of their struggle, which is very 184 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: funny coming from post BLM where race and identity was 185 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: the center point of a lot of left wing activists, 186 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: including by many many white people. Now. Granted, America was 187 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: a much more racist country back then. There was legitimate 188 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: acts of racism and laws against black people on the 189 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: books in parts of the country, especially the Deep South 190 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: at the time. That doesn't justify what they did, but 191 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: they had some legitimacy in their grievances. Those laws don't 192 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: exist today, even though some progressives act like they do, 193 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 1: and that level of racism doesn't exist today, even though 194 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: there's a perception promoted by the media that there is. 195 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: You see people like Jasmine Crockett talking about, you know, 196 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: ice agents looking like slaveholders. That's utter nonsense, and it's 197 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,719 Speaker 1: a desecration of what actually happened. It doesn't matter though, 198 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: because the rhetoric is there. What's very interesting is that 199 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: the white ratic of the nineteen sixties and seventies were 200 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: as extreme as the black ones, But white radicals believed 201 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: that they could create a working class coalition around the 202 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: issue of race and like trying to promote like Maoism. 203 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: This mostly came out of the IVY leagues at the time, 204 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: and it was utterly rejected by working class Americans like 205 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: it is today. Most of these people, these radicals who 206 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: have attempted or have been successful in political violence, they're 207 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: coming out of college. These aren't, you know, blue collar 208 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: guys who work on cars. The decade of the nineteen 209 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: sixties and seventies was incredibly turbulent, and there was so 210 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: many politically motivated or you know, politically motivated assassinations. JFK, RFK, 211 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Malcolm X, Martin, Luther King, Turk, Scott, George Muscone, Harvey Milk, 212 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: George Lincoln Rockwell. The last political journalist before Charlie who 213 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 1: was assassinated happened a decade later. It was in nineteen 214 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: eighty four. It was a radio host named Alan Berg 215 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: who was murdered by white supremacists who were antisemitic. I think, 216 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: right now, what's happening, and the place that we're in 217 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: is finger pointing. Right now, That's what we're doing. We 218 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: are fingerpointing to say who is really responsible, who is 219 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: responsible for the increase in violence, who's responsible for the Reddick, 220 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: and who is responsible for the violence that led to 221 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: Charlie's assassination. I want to talk about that and focus 222 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: on that next. So a lot of nonprofits like the 223 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center have built lists 224 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: of hate groups or moditoring political violence. But those organizations 225 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: are not reliable sources at all. And I'm telling my 226 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: listeners if you see them being used as sources to 227 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: mostly ignore it. They are progressive institutions that look to 228 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: demonize Republicans and conservatives and occasionally sprinkle in a few 229 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: left wingers when it's extremely obvious that they're committing acts 230 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 1: of violence with a progressive cause. I looked at these databases. 231 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: I looked at what they were citing as violence and 232 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: not violence. In twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, there 233 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: was a ton of violence that sprang out of left 234 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: wing activists, the BLM riots and the subsequent anarchists groups 235 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: in places like Seattle. Remember chazz it was on autonomous 236 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: zone created by Anti Fund twenty twenty one. In Seattle, 237 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: there were many incidences of rape and assault and violence 238 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: and even murder at the CHAZ at the autonomous zone 239 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: created by left wing anarchists. But when I went through 240 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: the databases didn't list a single one of them. As 241 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: Minneapolis Police station being set on fire on May twenty eighth, 242 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty by BLM rioters not listened anywhere wasn't considered 243 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: an act of politically motivated violence. The University of Cincinnati 244 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: created a big database called the Prosecution Project to look 245 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: at felony criminal cases involving political violence during all of 246 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and I read through all their database through 247 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, through the Summer of Love, where BLM writers 248 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: and ANTIFI activists were torching parts of this country. They 249 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: only had ten incidences of left wing violence. Two of 250 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: them were associated with BLM activists who had molotov cocktails. 251 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: Aside from that, nothing was listed. None of the most 252 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: obvious cases of left wing violence of that time were 253 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: included in any of this because under Activist DA's cases 254 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: were dropped. Right, they were looking at prosecutions, but there 255 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: was no prosecution in many of these cases, so they 256 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: weren't listening. But it doesn't mean it didn't happen. This 257 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: is the space that right wingers actually need to fill 258 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: if we're going to have this conversation. I spent a 259 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: lot of time trying to make my own assessment and 260 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: assortment of different information, and the information is incomplete. We 261 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: need real researchers to do this because otherwise, organizations that 262 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: promote progressive ideology get to create the narratives that the 263 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: media clombs onto and that non political people choose to 264 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: believe that the mainstream chooses to believe. Right the economists 265 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: reposted this data and it was completely not factual. Now 266 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: that's not to say that there have been no cases 267 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: of right wingers who have caused politically motivated attacks. I 268 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: don't want to get anyone confused or assume that I'm 269 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: blaming one side and forgiving all the other. Certainly, the 270 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: attack against Nancy Pelos's husband, Paul Pelosi, was committed by 271 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: a conspiracy minded right winger, and what happened to Paul 272 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: Pelosi was horrifying, It was tragic, and it should have 273 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: been wildly condemned and universally condemned, and instead was a 274 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: subject of mockery and conspiracy theories by mainstream conservatives. And 275 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to call that out because I saw it 276 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: at the time and didn't like it, and now I 277 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: have a platform to site it. According to the Center 278 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: for Strategic and International Studies, one thing is clear. Politically 279 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: target attacks have become more partisan in nature and mostly 280 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: committed by loan wolves. It used to be the case, 281 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: especially in the nineties, that politically and going back to 282 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: the seventies, politically motivated attacks were predominantly caused by people 283 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,679 Speaker 1: in affiliated organizations like Sovereign Citizens or right wing militias 284 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: or the weather I'm an underground or black nationalists, something 285 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: like that. That has given way to people who are 286 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: being radicalized online and motivated by partisan political beliefs and 287 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: acting as loan wolves. Many of the time that we've 288 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: seen in the last few years, in the last few 289 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: months and weeks, they are copycat killers. They're copycat attackers. 290 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: There are copy other famous attacks. There's no question in 291 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,959 Speaker 1: my mind that the person who assassinated and murdered Charlie 292 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: Kirk copied Luig Mangiones murder of Brian Thompson based on 293 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: how they engraved the bullet casings. That's what happens with 294 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: a lot of crime. Copycat killers are very very common, 295 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: especially when the media amplifies these mass murderers. Remember, the 296 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: first person to copy the Columbine shooting was a man 297 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: named James Rossy, who did it eight days after Columbine 298 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: at his school in Canada. The first person to copy 299 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: in America was in twenty twenty one in California, and 300 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: that was when information was a lot slower. America was 301 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: much more easily shocked and fragile at these events. Since then, 302 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: school shootings from around the globe have copied Columbine, which 303 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: is the most infamous, though unfortunately not the most deadly 304 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: school shooting about all time. That's what I fear is 305 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: going to come out of Charlie Kirk's assassination is copycat killings, 306 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: especially that violence is increasingly being justified on the left. 307 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,959 Speaker 1: A survey from Rutgers University found that twenty one percent 308 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: of respondents on the left believe that violence and murder 309 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump is completely justified. Now, you may be saying, 310 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: one fit, that's not a majority, and no it's not. 311 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: It's not a majority. But when you're talking about millions 312 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: of people, a fifth is a lot of people who 313 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: could be radicalized, who don't have a moral compass, who 314 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: don't see someone's value and that they have a soul, 315 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: or that they were creating the image of God. They 316 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: don't see any of that. Look at how the left 317 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: has treated Luigi Mangioni. He's a cult hero to some 318 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: of them. They sell candles with his likeness as a 319 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: saint or is Jesus Christ pictured on it. I have 320 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: to tell you, I listen to a lot of progressive 321 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: podcasts way more than conservatives, mostly because I laugh at them. 322 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: I think that they're ridiculous, you know. I listen to 323 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: a bunch and I think that they're so unhinged and 324 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: what they say is not true. And I understand a 325 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: little bit of what their reasoning is from these listening episodes, 326 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: but it's mostly to laugh at them. But I've heard 327 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: a number of them say free Luigi, Team Luigi, and 328 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: you take a step back, and it's actually scary what 329 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: they're really saying, what they're really endorsing, especially when you 330 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: consider how they're speaking about Republicans and conservatives at large. 331 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: There is a dehumanization of the right going on in 332 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: this country. And look, I don't have the mouth of 333 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: a saint. I curse like a truck driver in my 334 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: personal life. I could make a sailor blush. I have 335 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: no filter. I'm not saying I'm perfect in this. Nonetheless, 336 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,719 Speaker 1: when I use words like libtard, which I do use 337 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: pretty often, I'm not dehumanizing a liberal. I'm calling them stupid. 338 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're the enemy. I used to 339 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: have actually an old political mentor named Tom Agnabenni who's 340 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: gone to his eternal rest and may rest in peace. 341 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: But he used to tell me when I was very young, 342 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: Democrats are not your enemies. They are your adversaries, but 343 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: they're your countrymen. They're not your enemies. And I remember 344 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: that to this day when I speak about people. But 345 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: what commenters are saying on the left is unjustifiable. Kamala 346 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: Harris said on seeing him that she believed Donald Trump 347 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: was a fascist. Congressman Slowwell made a reference to kicking 348 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 1: the shit out of fascism. AOC said that Trump was 349 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: a fascist that united racism, bigotry, and racist nationalism. Rachel 350 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: Maddow said on her show that we need to worry 351 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: about the rise of fascism. Congressman Goldman from New York 352 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: said he's trying that Trump was trying to roll over 353 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: this country as a fascist dictator. Senator Chris Murphy the 354 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: day before Charlie Kirk was murdered, said, we are at 355 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,239 Speaker 1: war right now, and those are responsible left wingers who 356 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: have to answer to corporate you know, lawyers who have 357 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: to answer to sponsorships, who have to answer to voters. 358 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: George Conway, after Charlie was murdered, compared to him to 359 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: a young Nazi who was killed in Germany and then 360 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: uses propaganda Hassan Piker, who is a Twitch streamer, who's 361 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: a very famous Twitch streamer of the New York Times, 362 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: of this glowing puff piece about he said that we 363 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: need to kill those m efforts and let streets soak 364 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: in their red capitalist blood. There's a podcaster or you know, streamer, 365 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: whatever the hell called destiny. He said afterwards that conseratives 366 00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: have to be afraid to get killed when they go 367 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: to events, and that says nothing about how the left 368 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: has said time and time again that the right is 369 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: guilty of genociding marginalized communities, that they are guilty of 370 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: supporting genocide in Gaza, that the people will die because 371 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: the big beautiful bill, or that the trans community is 372 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: being erased. Does my audience even know that currently active 373 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: right now, this is what the mainstream does not talk about. 374 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: Currently active right now is a transcult called the Zizians 375 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: that is responsible and connected to six murders. It's active today. 376 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: Many people are saying that there's a rise of transgender murders. 377 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: Steve Sailor looked this up and he found that wild 378 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: transgender people made up point six or transgender and non 379 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: binary people made up point six percent of the population. 380 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: They do have an overrepresentation of homicides of mass shootings 381 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 1: rather since twenty eighteen. While it certainly hasn't been studied enough, 382 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 1: there are string of mass murders committed by trans binary 383 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: people that the government needs to investigate, that the government 384 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: needs to come up with an official study of because 385 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: we don't have the data. There's a lot of rhetoric 386 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: on the right about this, but there's no I trust 387 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,159 Speaker 1: me when I says I searched for hard numbers and 388 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: they're very, very difficult to come by, and we need 389 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 1: federal investigators to look this up because if it is 390 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: an issue, if it is a trend, it should be discussed. 391 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: This moment is not the first time that political rhetoric 392 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 1: around violence has been amplified to an unhealthy level. Remember 393 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: when Congressman Gabrielle Gifford's was shot by a schizophrenic without 394 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: a clear political ideology, he was, he had some right 395 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: wing tendencies, he had some left wing tendencies. He also 396 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: had saved a constituent letter that she had mailed to 397 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: him years prior that he became obsessed with. What did 398 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: the media blame? They blamed Sarah Palin, And I don't 399 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: want to get completely you know, I don't want to 400 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: admonish the right for saying that they've never spoken out 401 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: of a term, or that they never brought the dialogue 402 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: to an unhealthy level. During Obama's presidency, there were some 403 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,200 Speaker 1: very popular right wingers that were comparing him to the Antichrist, 404 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: and that is not healthy. I don't want to excuse 405 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: that kind of language. This is different, though it is 406 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: being blanketed over all Trump supporters who The big difference 407 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: is that the right viewed Obama supporters more or less 408 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: as useful idiots, as young people who didn't experience life yet, 409 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: but they didn't like him. They had very, very demeaning 410 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 1: things to say about him. This is towards and by 411 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: the way. One last final point of that political violence 412 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,919 Speaker 1: declined as Obama's presidency continued right for as vitriolic or 413 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: as unhinged or as unresponsible as the right was during 414 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:49,239 Speaker 1: Obama's presidency, political violence declined over time. Political violence has 415 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:53,320 Speaker 1: been increasing during Trump's presidency, both the first and then 416 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: in the post time, the four years between terms, and 417 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: now at this moment. The big difference is social media. 418 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 1: And it's not just TikTok or Instagram or memes. Right. 419 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: Thing is that people are posting about people trying to 420 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: get fired. People are trying to get other people fired 421 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: over what they've been saying about Charlie Kirk discord. Message boards, 422 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: anonymous groups like that are where people are going to 423 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:24,119 Speaker 1: be increasingly radicalized. Twenty twenty five is slated to have 424 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: the most amount of death threats against elected officials ever recorded, 425 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: according to the Capitol Police is over fifteen thousand, and 426 00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: this is not just confined to DC. According to Cornell University, 427 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 1: there are three hundred and ninety three counties with one 428 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: or more instances of political violence or attempted to political violence. 429 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: This is thirteen percent of all US counties. Additionally, only 430 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: six point one percent of all US counties had two 431 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: or more incidents of political violence, but two point seven 432 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: percent had more than five. That's a lot. That is 433 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 1: a lot. It seems like it's very little, but I 434 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: think of the overall where people live, and how many 435 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 1: people have in such few counties, it's almost impossible to 436 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 1: give political motivations behind all these attacks that are happening recently. 437 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: Right there are some the murder of Charlie Kirk Luigi, 438 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: the assault of Paul Pelosi. Some people are claiming the 439 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: murder of Minnesota legislators, but the man who murdered them 440 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: was clearly severely mentally ill. And I'm not saying that, 441 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, Luigi isn't mentally ill. I'm saying, but severely 442 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: mentally ill. There are schizophrenics and people with severe mental 443 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: illness who are clamming on to the Internet and are 444 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: in the midst of social contagent who believe that political 445 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: violence is a force that gives them meaning. The left 446 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: is calling on this moment to regulate guns, and they 447 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: say that is the answer. They're kind of whitewashing Charlie's 448 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: murder as just being regular gun violence. But that's so 449 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: so disgusting and demeaning to who he was and what 450 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: happened to him and to the family he left behind. 451 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 1: Is not just pull it. It's just not gun violence 452 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: and gun regulations were much stronger than the nineteen seventies 453 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: when we had a lot more assaults. There's a problem 454 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: in the country. If they didn't have a gun, they'd 455 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: use a bomb. If they didn't have a bomb, they'd 456 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: use a knife, they would use something to assault people. 457 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 1: And I think that is important in this moment as 458 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: far as what we can do, what I can do, 459 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: what you can do is when the next Democrat, if 460 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: uses a conservative audience, which most of my audience is conservative, 461 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: when the next Democrat there will be a democratic president 462 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: you know at some point in history, or a left 463 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: wing president. Things swing back and forth. Not to lose 464 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: your mind, not to police your own language, maybe don't 465 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: share the thing that you know will get the most clicks, 466 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: and to really look at young people, especially young men 467 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: in your own family, and what they're looking at online. 468 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: Social media companies need to be held responsible for what 469 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: is happening. We need. Congress needs to change Section two thirty. 470 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: These are not just blanket publishers. They have to be 471 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: responsible over what people are sharing online. It is a 472 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: radicalization and there will be more copycat killers. And I say, 473 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: as somebody who received death threats in the last year alone, 474 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: and lots of threats in the last year, not just 475 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: death threats, but threats to my safety. Conservatives are going 476 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: to increase their reaction because the threat is real. And 477 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what exactly is going to follow. I 478 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: don't know what laws will be changed, but something will happen, 479 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: and if there is another assault of another right winger, 480 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: the reaction will be more extreme. I think of even 481 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: just a week ago when Donald Trump and JD. Vans 482 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: and a bunch of the cabinet were in a restaurant 483 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: and protesters broke the door and started yelling, and they 484 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: were within feet of the president. It is genuinely scary. 485 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: What could happen if the wrong person was at that 486 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: place at the wrong time. People need to act more responsibly. 487 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: Cooler heads need to prevail, But social media companies need 488 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: to hold these people responsible. Who are radicalizing, who are dehumanizing, 489 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: who are using violent rhetoric. They need to be demonetized 490 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: and they need to be taken off social media. Free 491 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: speech is important, but you have to act responsive with it, 492 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: and these people are absolutely going to get some more 493 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: people killed if they continue like they are. That's my 494 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: little thing. Up next Ask Me Anything. Now, it's time 495 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: for Ask Me Anything. If you want a part of 496 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: the Ask Me Anything segment, please email me Ry at 497 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: Numbers gamepodcast dot com. That's Ryan at Numbers Game Plural 498 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: Numbers gamepodcast dot com. I want to remind my listeners 499 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: Thursday is a whole ask Me Anything podcast. I'm going 500 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: to do a lot of questions. I have a big 501 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: backlog and I'm gonna get everything and I possibly can, 502 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: so please email me. I love answering your questions. I 503 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: love hearing about everything. And by the way, thank you 504 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: all for the nice emails I got over the nine 505 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: to eleven segment. I know that came the same day 506 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: Charlie was murdered, and you know, nine to eleven kind 507 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,520 Speaker 1: of fell in the back of everyone's mind. But I 508 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: really appreciate all the nice messages I received. My mom 509 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: really really thought the episode came out very well and 510 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: she was very proud of it, and I'm very proud 511 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,080 Speaker 1: of it. So thank you all. It means the most 512 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: to me, So get your questions in let me know 513 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: what you want to do for podcast episodes in the future. 514 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: I love to talk about them Ryan at Numbers Game 515 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 1: podcast dot com. Okay, so this comes from Erica from Utah. 516 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,959 Speaker 1: She's talking about the special election in Iowa. This is 517 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: the most recent special election where Republicans lost a double 518 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: digit Trump district and lost the republic looking super majority 519 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: in Iowa. She says, My understanding on the special election 520 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: in Iowa is that only about ten thousand people voted. Also, 521 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party put thirty thousand volunteers on the ground 522 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: to win that election. Even with not knowing the amount 523 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: of money spent to win that seat, the math needing 524 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: five times number of voters, voters and volunteers can't be 525 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: translated into wins in other races. Okay, I understand what 526 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: you're saying, Erica. Yeah, the Democrats spent a lot of 527 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: money and a lot of time trying to win that seat. 528 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: If it was a one off election, I would agree 529 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: with you. Democrats have been overperforming in special elections on 530 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: an average of thirteen points in the last what is it, 531 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: seven months since the presidential election. That is a lot. 532 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 1: That is the most actually on record. Now part of 533 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: that not on record, but certainly in the last I 534 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: think six election cycle special election cycles. Part of that 535 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:58,320 Speaker 1: is is that as political parties have changed, Democrats have 536 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: become an older party. They've all to become a party 537 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: that is more obsessed with the news and politics. You 538 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: could see that in a lot of polling right, in 539 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot of polling data, there's an over representation of older, 540 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: left wing older Democrats. I'll give you a perfect example, 541 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: two perfect examples in Iowa. In the very famous poll 542 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,480 Speaker 1: that came out right before the election, the Ann Salzer 543 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: poll where she predicted Kamala Harris who win Iowa. I 544 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: broke down that data in the cross stebs And and 545 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: Selter found that Kamala was going to win older white 546 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 1: women who are in who are large share or evangelical 547 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: in Iowa by double digits. Now, this was clearly nonsense, right, 548 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: anyone with a brain would have recognized that this is nonsense. 549 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: The problem is is that those older voters want to 550 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: answer a poll, they think about politics at an unhealthy 551 00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: I don't say unhealthy, but at a level that is 552 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: high than the average person. Right. It is more than 553 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: just who do you vote for every two four years 554 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: or whatever special election is, it is a sport to them. 555 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 1: In the New York Times polling in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, 556 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 1: why I assumed there was an error in their polling 557 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,960 Speaker 1: is because those polls had Democrats at Kamala rather winning 558 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: senior citizens, especially white senior citizens, by double digits. I 559 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: think Michigan had had their winning by twenty points, in 560 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania by ten points. If my memory serves me right, 561 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,280 Speaker 1: that was never going to happen. But those people want 562 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,120 Speaker 1: to answer the poll. They will call the pollster and say, 563 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 1: please let me answer the poll's That is what is 564 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: happening with these special elections. As far as voting as well. 565 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 1: People who are amplifying, you know, they amplify all their 566 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: political opinions. They can't wait to tell you how much 567 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: they hate Donald Trump. They vote in all these elections, 568 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: and as the Republican Party has become more has become 569 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: a larger share of non college educated voters, a larger 570 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: share of young voters, they don't vote in all these 571 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: special elections. So, yeah, did the Democrats spend a lot 572 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 1: of money? Do they send a lot of door knockers 573 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: to win this and to try to break the supermajority. Absolutely, 574 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: they did in this one district in Iowa, but they 575 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: have been winning across the board, even in places that 576 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: they haven't spent all that money or they've been overperforming 577 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 1: across the board. And a big part of that is 578 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:29,399 Speaker 1: that high propensity voters with college degrees are increasingly just Democrats, 579 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: and it's something we need to recognize and we need 580 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: to figure out a way to make sure Republicans get 581 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 1: out and vote in greater frequency if we want to 582 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: win these elections, especially the midterms. Part of that answer, 583 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of Republicans don't like that, but part 584 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: of the answer is we get these people who can't 585 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: be counted on to vote on election day. To vote early. 586 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: You have to use the tools ahead of you. You 587 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,319 Speaker 1: have to color with every crayon in the box. Early 588 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: voting is part of that equation. Republicans don't like it, 589 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: but it is so until there is no early voting, 590 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: which there is and so there's no changing that. But 591 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: until there is changing that, but no one's proposing it 592 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: right now, No serious person's proposing it as far as 593 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: getting a legislator behind it and the governor sign it. 594 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: Until there is no early voting. You have to get 595 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: people to vote early, especially who you can't count on. 596 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: If it's raining, if the kid's crying, if someone's sick, whatever, 597 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: you need them to vote early. That's the point of 598 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: why I mentioned the Iowa election. It's more than Iowa. 599 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: It's happening in special elections everywhere. So hopefully it doesn't 600 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: happen for the November elections. Hopefully doesn't happen for the midterms. 601 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: Hopefully right wingers who are deeply, deeply impacted by Charlie 602 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: Kirk's assassination and want to continue his legacy, get active, 603 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: get motivated, and make sure Republicans win in November. That's 604 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,720 Speaker 1: my episode today. I hope you enjoyed Ask Me Anything 605 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: all day Thursday. Please tune in, like, and subscribe on 606 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: this podcast and the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you 607 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 1: stream your podcast. Give me a five star review if 608 00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: you so feel inclined, if you like the data I 609 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:03,840 Speaker 1: bring you every week, and I will talk to you 610 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: guys on Thursday.