Speaker 1: What's that at the spooky I'm really sure it's dead.
Speaker 1: He's coming this way. Wait a minute, I said, tyros
Speaker 1: jaens p Hey boo, it's me raz I am joined
Speaker 1: on the pod today by Jimmy Carazzo, who is a
Speaker 1: friend of mine. He is the first, to my knowledge,
Speaker 1: guest on this show that is in their eighties, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you a bit about him before we get
Speaker 1: into it. But before even that, a couple of things
Speaker 1: that I wanted to tell you. First of all, I
Speaker 1: was thinking the other day about a real paranormal story
Speaker 1: that happened to me a number of years ago. And
Speaker 1: I don't think I have ever shared this, and so
Speaker 1: there's no time like the present. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: couple of reasons why I never shared it. First of all,
Speaker 1: it involves another person. They told me something back when
Speaker 1: this happened that was a secret. Now I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say the person's name or anything, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought about it, and I'm like, you know, it's
Speaker 1: my story to tell, it's mine as well. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll tell my side. How about that? But I'd like
Speaker 1: to be respectful. I'm always weird about people's stories that
Speaker 1: involve other people talking about them. I mean, if I
Speaker 1: didn't care about other people like that, honey, the stories
Speaker 1: I could tell you. But okay, you'll see what I
Speaker 1: mean once I tell the story, if I ever get
Speaker 1: to it. All right, here I go. So this took
Speaker 1: place over ten years ago. I was doing a theatrical
Speaker 1: production and in the cast of this show was this
Speaker 1: guy and he was my age and we hit it
Speaker 1: off right away. Incredible performer, very funny person. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we just got along great and early on in our relationship,
Speaker 1: our friendship. I think because we were working at an
Speaker 1: old theater that was known to be haunted, I started
Speaker 1: having vibes like like, I feel like I'm having some
Speaker 1: just feeling like there's ghosts around here. Just it really
Speaker 1: like I can definitely believe that this place is haunted.
Speaker 1: It just seems like, you know, I would say things
Speaker 1: like that, and I think that's what made him feel
Speaker 1: comfortable with me, to tell me that he has an
Speaker 1: ability where he can touch things and he can see
Speaker 1: stuff based on touching it. It's kind of that's so
Speaker 1: Raven style. I think. I think that's what that show was.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't watch it. I believe from
Speaker 1: my studies that it's an ability called psycho psychometry psychometry.
Speaker 2: Why do I feel.
Speaker 1: Like I can't say that word right. Psychometry, Yeah, psychomotry
Speaker 1: psychometry when you can touch things and then you like
Speaker 1: can say things about you like. So he basically he
Speaker 1: was telling me he would go into like a trance
Speaker 1: on some objects that he would touch. It wasn't everything,
Speaker 1: because I remember that was probably one of my questions,
Speaker 1: because I remember thinking like that would be exhausting if
Speaker 1: everything you touched you just kind of got the history
Speaker 1: of or whatever. He told me it was. It was
Speaker 1: only when there were things that he needed to know.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, maybe maybe there's more to it.
Speaker 1: We'll get we'll get there. So I just thought like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's cool. I had never met anybody with any ability
Speaker 1: like that. I just I thought it was interesting. And
Speaker 1: and he when he told me this, he did he
Speaker 1: didn't want anyone else to know about it, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no problem, I won't tell anyone, like,
Speaker 1: no big deal. And that's what this is kind of
Speaker 1: why I was. I'm like weird about sharing it, but
Speaker 1: like whatever, God get over at ross. So so I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I won't tell anyone, don't worry. And
Speaker 1: he was also very religious, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: that had something to do with why he didn't want
Speaker 1: anyone to know. I don't know, so I kind of
Speaker 1: just filed it away. I thought about it, but like whatever,
Speaker 1: I'll believe it when I see it. So I remember
Speaker 1: during the weeks that we were spending together, he would
Speaker 1: tell me, oh, like this set piece was used in
Speaker 1: this production and that production. I touched it and I
Speaker 1: could see the productions. I can see like glimpses of it,
Speaker 1: and I was just kind of like, yeah, okay, great, jure, okay.
Speaker 1: I mean you could also maybe see that there's photos
Speaker 1: in the theater from when they did that production here,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, but like great, okay, great. Or he
Speaker 1: would tell me, oh, this part of the theater used
Speaker 1: to be this or that, and just that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So anyway, this one night, I was having a brief
Speaker 1: romance with somebody else that was in the production of
Speaker 1: this show, and the two of us the night before
Speaker 1: hung out in the back seat of my car and
Speaker 1: we didn't we wasn't like we were getting freaky deeky. Don't
Speaker 1: get any ideas. We were just hanging out. You know,
Speaker 1: when you do these things and you're young, sometimes it's
Speaker 1: it's it's fun to get involved in gossip, and you know,
Speaker 1: the two of us were just kind of sitting in
Speaker 1: the back seat gossiping and whatever. Then that night ended.
Speaker 1: So the next day, I pick up this person with
Speaker 1: the psychic abilities. I pick him up and take him
Speaker 1: to rehearsal and he sat in the back seat. Which
Speaker 1: now the thing about I don't know, maybe I had
Speaker 1: something in the front seat. I don't know. It's very
Speaker 1: uber style, like he was just like back there and
Speaker 1: we're we're talking on our way to rehearsal.
Speaker 3: And.
Speaker 1: He kind of we kind of had a moment of silence,
Speaker 1: like you know, as it naturally happens when you're hanging
Speaker 1: out with someone, and then he all of a sudden
Speaker 1: starts doing dialogue from the night before when I was
Speaker 1: in the back seat with this person talking shit. This
Speaker 1: person with psychic abilities starts being me, and then he's them,
Speaker 1: and then he's me, and then he's them, and he's
Speaker 1: saying exactly the things that we were saying the night before,
Speaker 1: and that freaked me out. It like took it to
Speaker 1: a whole another level, and that's pretty much the extent
Speaker 1: of what he showed me. But that was really close
Speaker 1: to the end of the show run, and I was
Speaker 1: kind of it's a little bit freaked out. There was
Speaker 1: a part of me that felt like it was a
Speaker 1: little bit of an invasion of my privacy. I really
Speaker 1: believed once I saw it firsthand, and we had this
Speaker 1: nice friendship, and I pulled back and we stopped being
Speaker 1: friends and we didn't pursue to a friendship after that
Speaker 1: show closed. And I feel bad because I was emotionally immature.
Speaker 1: I was young, and he was young too, and maybe
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's matured when it comes to his abilities
Speaker 1: and the way he presents it to people. And it
Speaker 1: makes me think now, like, oh, maybe he doesn't like
Speaker 1: to tell people about this because it freaks people out,
Speaker 1: because it definitely freaked me out, and so I feel
Speaker 1: a little bit bad about that. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just a story. I was thinking about. It just
Speaker 1: randomly hit me the other day and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: I've never I don't think i've ever. I think I've
Speaker 1: alluded to this story, but I've never really told it
Speaker 1: on the podcast. So there you have. It a paranormal
Speaker 1: story and definitely something that leads to my belief that
Speaker 1: there are people with real gifts of the paranormal variety.
Speaker 1: Have you heard the latest news about in the cryptid world?
Speaker 1: Do you hear about this mummified mermaid that has a
Speaker 1: human face that was found and people think it might
Speaker 1: be a real mermaid. There's a picture of it online
Speaker 1: and there's lots of articles of it and she's looking rough.
Speaker 1: It is believed to be a three hundred year old
Speaker 1: mummified mermaid that was allegedly caught in the Pacific Ocean
Speaker 1: off the Japanese island of Shikoku. It's currently being studied
Speaker 1: at a university in Japan. They're doing all kinds of
Speaker 1: DNA testing and stuff. There is a folkloric belief that
Speaker 1: these mermaids that once existed, if you eat the mermaid flesh,
Speaker 1: then you will live forever. And there's a Japanese legend
Speaker 1: that a woman accidentally ate the flash of a mermaid
Speaker 1: and she lived for eight hundred years. Absolutely not oh
Speaker 1: to live for eight hundred years? Are you kidding? Do
Speaker 1: you know hot? It's going to be an eight hundred years?
Speaker 1: There was apparently a letter from nineteen oh three that
Speaker 1: was also found with the mermaid, saying that it was
Speaker 1: caught in a fishing net by a bunch of fishermen.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at these pictures, this, this
Speaker 1: is no aerial from the little Mermaid. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess it's mummified, so I'll give it a break. But
Speaker 1: I mean it looks kind of pretty tiny too. But
Speaker 1: it kind of makes me think of there's a famous
Speaker 1: pt Barnum side show hoax for years that in the
Speaker 1: early circus days when they would do side shows, they
Speaker 1: would have on display these they're called Fiji mermaids, and
Speaker 1: it was usually like half monkey, half fish that would
Speaker 1: be sewn together, and they would say that it was
Speaker 1: a mummies or a mermaid. So it's possible it might
Speaker 1: be one of those. Maybe, I don't know. We'll find
Speaker 1: out soon enough, but I would love to believe that
Speaker 1: mermaids are real.
Speaker 3: Mm.
Speaker 1: Anybody you want to eat some three hundred year old
Speaker 1: mummified mermaid skin, you live forever. It's tempting, but no,
Speaker 1: I'm good. All right, let's get to today's show. I
Speaker 1: am joined today by a friend of mine named Jimmy Carazzo.
Speaker 1: Now he is in his eighties and he is starring
Speaker 1: in his first ever movie and it is about to
Speaker 1: come out, and I am so happy for him. He's
Speaker 1: a delight. You're gonna in love with him, he said,
Speaker 1: the most interesting life ever. I mean, I wish I
Speaker 1: could talk to him about all of his amazing stories.
Speaker 1: But today we are sticking to the ghosts because that's
Speaker 1: what we do around here.
Speaker 4: Though.
Speaker 1: He does tell me on my second tier Patreon a
Speaker 1: couple of stories that are off topic that are hilarious
Speaker 1: that you could find there, and we get into like
Speaker 1: reincarnation and possession. That's all on Patreon. Oh, also on
Speaker 1: there is a full episode this week of me talking
Speaker 1: about haunted theaters. Oh that's probably why I was thinking
Speaker 1: of that story. Anyway, Jimmy is gott he said, the
Speaker 1: most fascinating life. He One of the stories he tells
Speaker 1: that I put on Patreon this week is from the
Speaker 1: year nineteen forty six. He was in the original La
Speaker 1: cast of the Broadway musical Hair. In the sixties. He
Speaker 1: was a part of a comedy duo in the seventies
Speaker 1: that played at the Comedy Store with people like Robin
Speaker 1: Wood Williams and the biggest names and the biz, and
Speaker 1: it was him and his partner, and he'll talk about
Speaker 1: that a bit today. He's just had an incredible career
Speaker 1: and now he starts in the new film Moon Manner,
Speaker 1: which is a movie that I have talked about for
Speaker 1: literally years at this point, and I happen to be
Speaker 1: in it just a little bit and some other people
Speaker 1: that have been on this podcast. We shot the movie
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, so to say the least, I look
Speaker 1: a little bit different, but nonetheless I'm proud to have
Speaker 1: been a part of it. I have seen the film
Speaker 1: and I highly recommend it, and you're going to fall
Speaker 1: in love with him. Here he is Jimmy Carrazzo and
Speaker 1: with the show. I am so honored to welcome to
Speaker 1: the show today a dear friend of mine, Jimmy Carazzo.
Speaker 3: How you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm so good. I'm so happy that you're here and
Speaker 1: you brought me a flower.
Speaker 3: This has been a dream of mine to do this podcast,
Speaker 3: even when before you were doing the Ghosted, when you
Speaker 3: were doing.
Speaker 1: A Pusat Oh, I had a different podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeh. I was so waiting to do it. I wanted
Speaker 3: to do it. So this is really great for me,
Speaker 3: thank you for having me?
Speaker 1: Of course, are you kidding me? You and I we
Speaker 1: met a number of years ago, now when you turned eighty,
Speaker 1: that's right, and you're now eighty four, right, and you
Speaker 1: starred in an entire movie. And I mean, you're the
Speaker 1: star of this movie and it's gotten great reviews and
Speaker 1: now everyone can finally see it, and I can't wait
Speaker 1: me either. Can you tell people what the movie is about?
Speaker 3: What it is?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean sometimes when I tell people what it's about, right,
Speaker 1: it almost sounds like it's sad if you don't you know,
Speaker 1: if you don't know the vibe of the of the movie.
Speaker 3: Right, And that's the whole that's the whole secret of
Speaker 3: its success. I think the fact that it is a
Speaker 3: serious subject and yet it's treated with such humor and
Speaker 3: even to that furthest extreme of humor that some people
Speaker 3: might go, oh my god. But then they stick with
Speaker 3: it and it gets more and more touching as it
Speaker 3: goes on and has a very strong method message.
Speaker 2: The character of.
Speaker 3: Jimmy is an eighty year old or an eighty four,
Speaker 3: whatever how old he is, but he has Alzheimer's and
Speaker 3: he wants to end his own life with dignity, but
Speaker 3: before he does it, he wants to have everybody come
Speaker 3: to his house and have a funnelal because that way
Speaker 3: you can hear all the things people say about you
Speaker 3: after you die while.
Speaker 2: You're still alive. Right.
Speaker 3: And the crazy friends that he has is what makes
Speaker 3: it such an entertaining movie. Because the man has traveled
Speaker 3: many places over his lifetime, gathered many friends of various nationality.
Speaker 3: It's a very diverse film. Is every nationality imaginable in
Speaker 3: the movie? Well, maybe not every that would be eight
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy seven, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's all kinds of colorful characters in all different ways.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and.
Speaker 1: Throughout the movie. Because I should also for our listeners
Speaker 1: of this podcast, shout out that two of the stars
Speaker 1: of the movie have been on this show. My first
Speaker 1: ever guest is Deborah Wilson, who Deborah Wilson, And the
Speaker 1: other person that has been on is lou Louke.
Speaker 3: Oh she got the two most talented people. They must
Speaker 3: have been great on the show.
Speaker 1: They were, and they had some great stories too. And
Speaker 1: I wanted your.
Speaker 2: Yours, Ebra, Yes, okay, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Okay, what kind of ghost stories do you got for us? Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I reached out to you and asked you what you had,
Speaker 1: and you gave me a whole list. So where should
Speaker 1: we start.
Speaker 3: The most recent thing is when I moved in. I've
Speaker 3: been living on in North Hollywood for twenty nine years
Speaker 3: and I moved recently to Koreatown. The first night I
Speaker 3: was in the new apartment, I put on my hearing
Speaker 3: aid and as I'm starting to think my hearing aid
Speaker 3: picks up ghosts because I didn't hear anything, I put
Speaker 3: on my hearing aid and within ten minutes I'm hearing
Speaker 3: Jim Jim and Marcus is over at the table doing origami.
Speaker 3: My husband, Yeah, and he's in there. He's there doing origami.
Speaker 3: He's a wonderful origami artist. And then he paints the
Speaker 3: orogami as well, so he had origami two point oh
Speaker 3: it's great. But anyway, he's doing his origami and I
Speaker 3: hear Jim Jim, and I say, what Marcus? What he said?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 3: I said, did you just call me? He said no,
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything, so I just heard my name
Speaker 3: clear as a bell. This happened and still happens. I
Speaker 3: put my hearing aid on and in the middle of
Speaker 3: a conversation. You know, I'll hear Jim. I don't know
Speaker 3: what that is right in your ear, right right in
Speaker 3: my ear? Yeah? Wow.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's like ghosts have a have a
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people have a theory that
Speaker 1: ghosts can connect through electronics and you know, all.
Speaker 3: Kinds of whatever their motive of communication is, they can
Speaker 3: probably enter into anything. But I'd like to know what
Speaker 3: it really is, you know. And then on the first day,
Speaker 3: it only happened. The first day, I kept getting poked.
Speaker 3: I said, what the hell is that? I felt myself
Speaker 3: in my gut, like right in my stomach or finger
Speaker 3: poking me. And this happened the whole day. The next
Speaker 3: day it didn't happen. It was gone. So it was
Speaker 3: some kind of a welcoming committee that was just letting
Speaker 3: me know that they're there and you're better behave yourself,
Speaker 3: you know. But I still hear the name Jim when
Speaker 3: I put on my hearing age, I might hear it
Speaker 3: what we hear today. Wow, Hey, is that so?
Speaker 1: But do you have any theory about when you're not
Speaker 1: in the house, because it did it start? It sounds
Speaker 1: like it started right when you moved into this place.
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. The hearing anything happens anywhere in the car
Speaker 3: at ralse when I'm shopping whatever. You know, I hear it,
Speaker 3: but it's so clear, Jim, Jim. And now now I
Speaker 3: hear it and I don't react because I'm f And
Speaker 3: then sometimes I don't react and it's Marcus and he's saying, Jim,
Speaker 3: will you please answer me. It's like I didn't know
Speaker 3: if it was you or the go sorry right exactly.
Speaker 1: Wow, the haunting hearing aid.
Speaker 3: But these things have happened throughout my life, back in
Speaker 3: when when my beloved Rick died. Rick is who is
Speaker 3: in the movie, because you said the movie is really
Speaker 3: many things from my life with footage of my late partner,
Speaker 3: and I granted and Corrazzo and.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean we should shout that out. The two
Speaker 1: of you guys had a comedy duo which I actually
Speaker 1: I've seen the Norm Crosby show that you guys were
Speaker 1: from with the seventies. I guess probably it's on Amazon
Speaker 1: right now if people want to watch it.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's called Norm Crosby's The Comedy Shop and it's
Speaker 1: season two, episode twenty one, and the two of you
Speaker 1: guys are doing your act. Yeah, I did my research.
Speaker 1: You guys are so good. So the two of you
Speaker 1: were real life partners and comedy partners.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for eighteen years. And then he passed away
Speaker 3: in nineteen eighty six of ades, which destroyed my life
Speaker 3: for a long time because when he was sick, we
Speaker 3: spent all the money we had. It was everybody who
Speaker 3: was there knows what it was like. I went to
Speaker 3: twelve funerals in a year. Amazing, you know, and they
Speaker 3: were all close friends, most of them performers. But Rick
Speaker 3: and I have always been involved for at least for
Speaker 3: five years before he passed away, we had been working
Speaker 3: out of the Tibetan Book of the Dead because of Ramdas.
Speaker 3: Ra is such a wonderful for your listeners who don't know.
Speaker 3: Anybody who listens to you probably knows who Ramdas was.
Speaker 3: But he was a great He was a great guru.
Speaker 3: He was a Jewish kid from Massachusetts. His father was
Speaker 3: a banker. He was a philosophy. He was a psychology
Speaker 3: professor at Harvard University with Timothy Leary and Ralph Metzger,
Speaker 3: and the three of them did LSD experiences back in
Speaker 3: the day and they were to They did a double
Speaker 3: blind experiment with LSD with divinity students. They were ten
Speaker 3: divinity students on the placebo, ten divinity students on acid,
Speaker 3: and they were in an anti room outside of a
Speaker 3: high Anglican service listening to the service. All of the
Speaker 3: people on acid had religious experiences what could be described
Speaker 3: as religious experiences. Two people had religious experiences with the placebo.
Speaker 3: So it was a very and then the powers that
Speaker 3: be the suit said no more acid. It's a bad thing.
Speaker 3: They condemned it and they stopped using it. They're still
Speaker 3: trying to get it back into use. So with the
Speaker 3: Defendant Book of the Dead, it's it's the idea, without
Speaker 3: going into a long dissertation, the idea is that after
Speaker 3: you pass from this part of life and you go
Speaker 3: into the next part, there were three segments before you're reborn.
Speaker 3: They are called Bardo's. The Defendant Book of the Dead
Speaker 3: guided all lives for probably fifteen years of our life together.
Speaker 3: When he passed away, he had internalized the teaching. The
Speaker 3: idea of the book is that you learn the teaching
Speaker 3: in life, and then after you pass away, you find
Speaker 3: liberation through hearing. The entity comes back and the person
Speaker 3: who's on land and still alive. In this case me
Speaker 3: reads from the book for forty nine days. In the
Speaker 3: morning and night when he died, I cleaned his room,
Speaker 3: our room. I scrubbed the walls, I took all the
Speaker 3: furniture out. I put a table and chair, a bell,
Speaker 3: book and candle, the Tibetan Book of the Dead, and
Speaker 3: a candle. Lit the candle. Six o'clock in the morning,
Speaker 3: I would summon his spirit by ringing the bell and reading.
Speaker 3: I'd read that passage. Then at six o'clock at night,
Speaker 3: I would go to the next passage. Now you're entering
Speaker 3: the part of the border where you're going to have hallucinations.
Speaker 3: Remember not to be attracted or repelled by what you see.
Speaker 3: Just be down the middle and go through all of
Speaker 3: that without reacting. And I would give these instructions to him.
Speaker 3: This was done for forty nine days. Now at the
Speaker 3: last in the last week, we went the whole family
Speaker 3: went to Santa Barbara. So I took the bell, book
Speaker 3: and candle and went to Santa Barbara to his brother's
Speaker 3: place who had a landscaping business, and he had a greenhouse,
Speaker 3: and I set it all up in the greenhouse, and
Speaker 3: at six in the morning, I'd go to the greenhouse
Speaker 3: and I would do it. And at six at night
Speaker 3: I'd go to the greenhouse and do it. The family
Speaker 3: allowed it. They didn't know quite what it was about,
Speaker 3: but they said, okay, let's do it. And at one
Speaker 3: point I was late. It was about fifteen minutes late,
Speaker 3: and I'm walking into the greenhouse and I hear the
Speaker 3: bell and I look at when had happened. It had
Speaker 3: popped off the table onto the floor, and I heard
Speaker 3: the meaning like I was late, and it was telling
Speaker 3: me to get in here. And then on the last
Speaker 3: night before going back to La, I'm in the middle
Speaker 3: of doing it again and reading and a gentleman that
Speaker 3: I didn't know comes to the greenhouse and says, are
Speaker 3: you Rick? And I said what he said, are you Rick?
Speaker 3: I'm looking for Rick. Somebody said Ricky was in here
Speaker 3: and I said, no, he's not here. And I didn't
Speaker 3: follow up on it, but it was such a it
Speaker 3: pushed me back.
Speaker 2: And that man.
Speaker 1: Do you think that man was? I didn't know who
Speaker 1: he goes you're a living person.
Speaker 3: He was probably it was probably one of the you know,
Speaker 3: he was a person. He was. I think he was
Speaker 3: probably one of the men who worked for his brother
Speaker 3: in the landscaping business. I would think, but I didn't
Speaker 3: know who he was. I didn't go back and mention
Speaker 3: it because I didn't want to talk about things like
Speaker 3: that back then to the family because they were conservative,
Speaker 3: not Conservadi. They were very reformed Jewish people and they
Speaker 3: were wonderful. They're my family. After he passed away, I
Speaker 3: was with that family for nineteen years to him, going
Speaker 3: to pass Over feasts and so on. I'm in than American,
Speaker 3: but I studied. I sing cantorial. I learned cantorial singing,
Speaker 3: so I would sing at the passover. And after he
Speaker 3: passed away, which is now thirty five years ago, I
Speaker 3: still go to pass over every year at that family.
Speaker 3: I've been with the Granede family longer than Rick was.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they treat me like their son and like
Speaker 3: their brother.
Speaker 1: Wow yeah. You were telling me an email that you
Speaker 1: were having moments of feeling his presence.
Speaker 3: Oh God, twice it happened, and a lot of people
Speaker 3: talk about this particular phenomena. I was sleeping and I was,
Speaker 3: I guess dreaming, and I woke up in the middle
Speaker 3: of the night. Now normally I wake up because I
Speaker 3: got a pee. You know, this time I woke up
Speaker 3: and my whole body was tangling and glowing, and I
Speaker 3: didn't see anything but the room. And I wasn't high,
Speaker 3: I didn't have I didn't smoke or anything like that.
Speaker 3: The whole room was glowing. My whole body was glowing,
Speaker 3: and I just knew it was him, you know, everything
Speaker 3: about it was Rick. And that happened twice in my
Speaker 3: life really. And then years ago, about fifty years ago,
Speaker 3: Professor Harold Brooks. He was an entertainer, but he was
Speaker 3: also a ghostbuster, and there was a talk about a
Speaker 3: house in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, that that had poltegeists. So
Speaker 3: we he took us. He took me to the This
Speaker 3: was before I met Rick. He took me. I was
Speaker 3: with a show called four for Tonight four four Tonight,
Speaker 3: one two three four four tonight comedy in War for Tonight.
Speaker 1: It was a sight shower.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a four person review. Okay, you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: we played all the clubs on the East.
Speaker 1: Coast, and this is one in sixties.
Speaker 3: This was yeah, in the sixties. Yeah, And so anyway,
Speaker 3: he's he took us to the to the house in
Speaker 3: Fort Lauderdale. Nothing was jumping off the walls. But while
Speaker 3: we were there, a wind blew the shed and the
Speaker 3: door off the shed in the backyard, and Harold said, well,
Speaker 3: I came here to debunk that. That was his idea,
Speaker 3: or to find a ghost and do something about it.
Speaker 3: I don't know how he did what he did about it,
Speaker 3: but he said, I don't know if I don't know
Speaker 3: if there was any ghosts in the house. Nothing showed itself,
Speaker 3: but there was no wind all day there, and suddenly
Speaker 3: a wind came up to such an extent that and
Speaker 3: blew the door off the shed. Said so I keep
Speaker 3: an open mind that this was probably the work of Postcadis.
Speaker 3: There was also a teenage girl living in the house,
Speaker 3: and often it's said about postageys that kids going through
Speaker 3: puberty have such a disruption in their vibe that they
Speaker 3: loose these powers that are able to what is it
Speaker 3: called when you move objects?
Speaker 1: I forget the word, like telekinesis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell, yeah, telekinesis. It was like it was like
Speaker 3: carry without the big blood.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a huge theory with with Poultergeist
Speaker 1: is that there's usually a typically girl is what I
Speaker 1: usually hear, a teenage girl that is kind of the
Speaker 1: root of the Poulter guys. And it was I think
Speaker 1: it's like a hormonal change or something, and people think
Speaker 1: that it's essentially yeah, telekinesas.
Speaker 2: And and they're sensitive to the.
Speaker 1: People in the house. Don't realize that maybe it's her
Speaker 1: that's that's making things happen. This is what people think.
Speaker 1: I mean, with years of studying this.
Speaker 3: The Granite family themselves, there's a member I mean mentioned
Speaker 3: any names, but there's a member of the Graned family,
Speaker 3: a husband and wife and a child, and they have,
Speaker 3: I understand, planning to move because the house therein is
Speaker 3: so filled with noises and creaks and voices and so on. Really,
Speaker 3: they believe that it's haunted for sure, and their their move.
Speaker 3: Their their plan is to move to another house. I
Speaker 3: don't want to say any specific things of their stories
Speaker 3: because I don't want to employe their cover for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: You know, tell me more, Tell me more.
Speaker 3: Marcus husband, Yeah, Marcus was His name is Gaiama Lopez.
Speaker 3: And everybody calls the market, Oh, his story is a
Speaker 3: movie in itself. We won't go there, but oh my god,
Speaker 3: what a life, he said, his life and how he
Speaker 3: came to this country. What happened is after he lived
Speaker 3: with me for a while, we had a dear friend
Speaker 3: and it might have been the birthday party where we
Speaker 3: were raising money for Mike casingher who has had als
Speaker 3: and he he's since passed away. We were his caregivers,
Speaker 3: a wonderful human being, a landscaper, and he when he
Speaker 3: was when we moved in to take care of him
Speaker 3: in his home in Sunland. And one day Marcus was
Speaker 3: up in his office, in Mike's office, and he saw
Speaker 3: a shadowy figure and it moved throughout the room, he said,
Speaker 3: and then disappeared. And about ten days later Mike was
Speaker 3: diagnosed with ALS and he yeah, so he has a
Speaker 3: story too. I don't know the whole details, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's out there. I mean, if people pay attention, and
Speaker 3: then you don't want to misinterpret. You don't want to
Speaker 3: just say that's a ghost. But you want to.
Speaker 1: Why it's fun?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but but but you want to you want
Speaker 3: to look at it anyway. I do. I like to
Speaker 3: look at it pragmatically. I'm convinced that these are not
Speaker 3: of this.
Speaker 2: Bordow.
Speaker 3: These are bordoes Also there are bordos after you die
Speaker 3: and borders while you're alive, and the six altogether.
Speaker 2: Jimmy ras, do.
Speaker 1: You want to hear some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: And not the one that keeps talking to you.
Speaker 3: Name.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for EV or ev please. Do you
Speaker 1: know what an EVP is? No, it stands for electronic
Speaker 1: voice phenomena. It's when ghost hunters believe that they've captured
Speaker 1: a ghost speaking. Usually it could be any kind of
Speaker 1: recording device. It could be someone is filming with a
Speaker 1: camera and so they hear a voice, or they're purposefully recording.
Speaker 3: And they putting in a hearing aid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean the whole the whole thing is
Speaker 1: that it's being recorded and and people put it on YouTube,
Speaker 1: and then I spend hours on YouTube tube listening to these,
Speaker 1: and then when I find a good one, I bring
Speaker 1: it on in here and I'll play a couple for you,
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what you hear
Speaker 1: the ghost saying, and then I'm going to give you
Speaker 1: some options of what the person that captured this EVP
Speaker 1: believes it is actually saying. Okay, all right, so this
Speaker 1: first one, this is from somebody on YouTube named John Bullard,
Speaker 1: and it is at a place called the McRaven Home,
Speaker 1: which is in Vicksburg, Mississippi. And this is actually a
Speaker 1: place that offers ghost tours. It was first built in
Speaker 1: seventeen ninety seven, and it's been built a few times
Speaker 1: since then. But it has this long history and all
Speaker 1: kinds of ghosts, and it seems to be the kind
Speaker 1: of place that really embraces the fact that it's haunted,
Speaker 1: and they welcome people in to do a little bit
Speaker 1: of ghosts, to wors in ghost hunting. So, okay, what
Speaker 1: is this ghost saying? Jimmy, did you hear it? There
Speaker 1: is like background noise, but it seems to be a
Speaker 1: female voice, and she sang kind of like a short sentence.
Speaker 1: So let's try it again. Could you hear it?
Speaker 3: I heard, I heard the voice. I couldn't hear words,
Speaker 3: but I'm so it's hard.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's try again.
Speaker 3: This is the second time.
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to you.
Speaker 3: It sounded like to me.
Speaker 1: This is the second time. Hey, it could be. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Nobody really knows, but that's a good guess.
Speaker 1: Let me give you some options. One of these is
Speaker 1: what they believe it says, A, that's a funny old clock.
Speaker 4: That's a funny old clock. B that's a flirty way
Speaker 4: to talk, see, mess around and find out, or d
Speaker 4: dance a funky little dance.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: All right, let's play it again. It's one of those.
Speaker 3: Not sound like this is a funky ghost.
Speaker 1: There is like a a sound to me, honestly, it
Speaker 1: sounds like something incredibly vulgar that I will not repeat
Speaker 1: in front of such a refined gentleman as yourself.
Speaker 3: They hear that a lot. I wonder why they like
Speaker 3: to be obscene when they talk ghosts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, I mean I would. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: why not, let's have fun with it. They believe that
Speaker 1: this ghost is saying that's a funny old clock. It
Speaker 1: kind of sounds like that. It also kind of sounds
Speaker 1: like what I think it sounds like, which, use your imagination.
Speaker 1: It rhymes with that. All right, here we go. That's
Speaker 1: a funny old clock. You heard it? Yeah, it sounds
Speaker 1: like it. Okay, This next one, it's a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's shorter. It's a quick like little bloop. This is
Speaker 1: from somebody on YouTube named Jay forty two day, and
Speaker 1: it's at a cemetery in northern New Jersey. Now with
Speaker 1: this one, there is there. They shot this outside at
Speaker 1: a cemetery, and so there's what I believe to be
Speaker 1: birds chirping in the background. But there's a voice that
Speaker 1: speaks over the birds chirping. So let's try to hear
Speaker 1: that that's a bird. Well, yeah, there is a bird.
Speaker 1: And then there's somebody goingbtt yeah, yeah, what are they saying?
Speaker 2: Stop that?
Speaker 1: Hey, that's a good guess, that makes sense. Stop that,
Speaker 1: stop recording me. It's like the paparazzi style, like, let
Speaker 1: me be that's what I hear. Okay, is it a Picasso,
Speaker 1: B disgusting c mi casa or D stop that?
Speaker 3: Oh? I mean wellsa and the first one the third
Speaker 3: one sound.
Speaker 1: Alike Picasso and mi cassa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they believe that.
Speaker 1: It says mi casa my house in Spanish. Now that
Speaker 1: we know that, let's hear makassa.
Speaker 2: I mean maybe maybe it's very vague, but I like.
Speaker 1: Stop that. Okay, Jimmy, let's do one more thing. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna list off a bunch of paranormal things, and
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me if you believe in them.
Speaker 1: If you have a story, if you have a theory,
Speaker 1: just anything that pops up, anything that comes up in mind. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting question for you. What
Speaker 1: about past lives? Oh god, yeah, yeah, it seems like
Speaker 1: you believe in that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely believe in that. I can't see and
Speaker 3: future lives. I mean, I think the whole concept of
Speaker 3: reincarnation makes so much sense to me. That you keep
Speaker 3: you never come back worse. You wouldn't come back as
Speaker 3: a flea on a pig's ass or anything like that.
Speaker 3: You know, you'd come back as better than you were
Speaker 3: before in some way. Not the same person, not the
Speaker 3: same personality, but all of the accumulated experiences of your
Speaker 3: life carry over into and when you're selecting a womb.
Speaker 3: The third bart of of the dependent Book of the
Speaker 3: Dead is where you seek a womb that is suitable
Speaker 3: for your new life, if you remain conscious. If not,
Speaker 3: it's done without your knowledge. You fall into a soul
Speaker 3: slumber they call it, and you're reborn without knowledge or
Speaker 3: memory of your past life.
Speaker 2: That's most of us.
Speaker 3: And then there are some people who are sensitive and
Speaker 3: they remember that past, and each time they select a
Speaker 3: womb they're waiting for a particular husband and wife or
Speaker 3: a couple who's having a baby in a certain city
Speaker 3: with a certain propensity. For say, in my case, I
Speaker 3: would want to come back because I have unfinished business
Speaker 3: as an artist. I lived my whole life. Finally they
Speaker 3: made a movie about my life, and then I die,
Speaker 3: and I want to work more now that they know
Speaker 3: who I am. So I have that great desire to
Speaker 3: come back and continue in some way until my soul
Speaker 3: is finally satisfied that it's not going to bring me
Speaker 3: eternal happiness. That you have to get to that point
Speaker 3: where you put down your personality, put down your identity,
Speaker 3: and become like the point of a pencil hitting a paper,
Speaker 3: and that point where it meets is where your mind goes,
Speaker 3: and finally you think of nothing and you become the
Speaker 3: sugar instead of tasting the sugar. Then you stay in
Speaker 3: that state for a while and you can select the
Speaker 3: womb come back into a new life. I definitely believe
Speaker 3: in past lives, but mostly I look forward to future
Speaker 3: life because that's the fulfillment of all the past desires
Speaker 3: that didn't quite satisfy us. And every human being on
Speaker 3: the earth has to go through multiple lifetimes until they
Speaker 3: finally realize that they don't have any more curiosity, and
Speaker 3: then they jump off the wheel and they go to
Speaker 3: that spot of nirvana and they are part of God's energy.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 1: That sounds good to me. When I think of things
Speaker 1: like that, it really takes away fear of dying exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can't say I'm afraid to die.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Want to have something to say about it. I have
Speaker 3: advanced directives now and so on, you know, so that
Speaker 3: I'm not held there on life support systems. You know,
Speaker 3: in my own advanced directive, I said, you can put
Speaker 3: me on life support for no longer than three days.
Speaker 3: I won't know what's happening. I'm on morphine. Fine, I'll
Speaker 3: lay there. That gives three days for loved ones to
Speaker 3: come and say goodbye, then unhook me. And that's what
Speaker 3: Kaiser promised to do.
Speaker 1: Okay, so and then on to the next one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm I can't say I'm looking forward to
Speaker 3: it because I'm having so much fun, right, you know,
Speaker 3: But I have faith that it's the way to go.
Speaker 1: What do you think about haunted dolls?
Speaker 3: Hunted dolls?
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of that really a doll being haunted.
Speaker 3: I remember that doll biting the girl's ankles in that
Speaker 3: movie if forget Karen Black's ankles.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, about Trilogy of Terrorism. Yes, I mean
Speaker 1: that's also kind of like the idea of a cursed object.
Speaker 1: I mean, Juckie, Yes, I guess what I'm asking is,
Speaker 1: do you think that an inanimate object could have a
Speaker 1: spirit in it?
Speaker 3: It could certainly have a vibration that could be interpreted.
Speaker 3: Is that you know? I don't know, but I believe
Speaker 3: anything can be can be embodied with the spirit if
Speaker 3: the if the spirit behind it has that energy to spair,
Speaker 3: you know, if they're so first of all, if they're
Speaker 3: ghost and they haven't jumped off the wheel, they're kind
Speaker 3: of stuck here, I believe, and they that's why they're
Speaker 3: so active all the time. They're looking for a way
Speaker 3: to the next level. You know. So maybe they because
Speaker 3: of that, they get this excited and kind of twisted object.
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll go into an animal or a doll. Now
Speaker 3: that's another thing. Animals who This beautiful movie The Dog's Journey,
Speaker 3: Oh oh, because there's several of them, different versions, so
Speaker 3: beautiful because it shows the dog, the same spirit of
Speaker 3: the dog going from body to body and winding up
Speaker 3: back with his original owners after four lifetimes. You know,
Speaker 3: it's all quite beautiful to me. It makes me heartwarm.
Speaker 1: What about do you know about astral projection?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do you believe in that?
Speaker 2: Or I do?
Speaker 3: When I was in I was in the original Los
Speaker 3: Angeles Company of Hair at the Aquarius Theater. It's all
Speaker 3: covered up with buildings. You can't even see it, but
Speaker 3: in that show we were always singing about astral projection.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, So have you ever had an experience
Speaker 1: astral projecting on acid? You know what? I think that drug, psychedelics.
Speaker 1: I think that there is something to those experiences that
Speaker 1: it's a key.
Speaker 3: It's a chemical key that opens the mind, that the
Speaker 3: filter that we have. If everything came into us normally,
Speaker 3: we would be crazy. We wouldn't know how to put
Speaker 3: the lights John, There'd be so much a cacophony of
Speaker 3: sounds and all kinds of images of running and rushing
Speaker 3: through your mind. So so what would happen is it's
Speaker 3: natural that if the chemical key will open your brain,
Speaker 3: now all this information is coming in. I always advise
Speaker 3: people don't take acid and go out into the world
Speaker 3: to a party with a bunch of people that you
Speaker 3: got to deal with. You don't want that. You want
Speaker 3: to go into your mind, into your inner life. If
Speaker 3: you do that, you can project outward and you can.
Speaker 3: I remember once on acid, I was sure I was
Speaker 3: floating on a cloud and it just felt like it
Speaker 3: there was mist around me. I could I was looking
Speaker 3: down and I saw people under me. And this was
Speaker 3: all because of the chemical that opened my brain and
Speaker 3: all these images came in. It allowed me the freedom
Speaker 3: to travel in that world.
Speaker 1: I mean, I have a theory that now I think
Speaker 1: it could be different for different substances. But you know
Speaker 1: how like when people are drunk, they say you act
Speaker 1: like a like you kind of act like a toddler,
Speaker 1: Like you might pee yourself, you might fall, you might
Speaker 1: you know, just certain things like a toddler.
Speaker 3: For example, I was playing with my toes. Yes, what
Speaker 3: are you doing?
Speaker 1: But like it's it's kind of the same thing where
Speaker 1: they say that kids can see spirits and and stuff.
Speaker 2: Like that, And I think a lot of I think.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think a lot of times just because
Speaker 1: you're not you're taking a break from worrying about the
Speaker 1: human things that we're always worrying about as adults. You know,
Speaker 1: how do I look? Should I do this? I have
Speaker 1: this to do, I have got, you know, so many
Speaker 1: things on your brain and you're cutting that off. And
Speaker 1: so is that putting you back in tune with the
Speaker 1: fact that there are spirits around you? There are there's
Speaker 1: more out in the universe than what you typically see.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's possible, but certain substances.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done it without the assistance of the
Speaker 3: mind opening drug. But I haven't done that. And so
Speaker 3: I did mushrooms about six months ago. But that was nice. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but I want to be like Alda Sucky. You want
Speaker 3: to take acid on my deathbed?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I think I would too. I'm sober, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, if I was on my deathbed,
Speaker 1: I'd say, let's do it. Give me everything.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jimmy, that's it wonderful. I had such a good time.
Speaker 1: Me too. So one more time, let's tell everybody where
Speaker 1: to see the movie.
Speaker 3: Yes, March eleventh, it becomes available everywhere. Yeah, it's going
Speaker 3: to be Apple TV and iTunes, Amazon Exfinity on demand,
Speaker 3: Google Play, and cable Spectrum, Cox, Cable Voodoo. Nobody has
Speaker 3: any any reason to believe they can't see this movie,
Speaker 3: and they really need to see it because it'll enlighten you.
Speaker 3: It'll delighten you, and it'll What else can I say
Speaker 3: that would be that kind of.
Speaker 2: It? Will?
Speaker 1: I'm fighting you.
Speaker 2: If you don't see it, I've frightened you.
Speaker 1: It might frighten you when you see me on screen.
Speaker 1: It might frighten you.
Speaker 3: Alliterations. I love it.
Speaker 1: I know it was such a fun time making that
Speaker 1: movie with you. Thank you so much to Jimmy. What
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Speaker 1: we have a favorite guest returning next week, John E.
Speaker 1: L Tenny. Oh, if you haven't heard the last time
Speaker 1: he was on, he was on early last year and
Speaker 1: he is a brilliant thinker when it comes to the
Speaker 1: paranormal and so much more, and we'll be getting into
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