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Speaker 1: jaens p Hey boo, it's me raz I am joined

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Speaker 1: on the pod today by Jimmy Carazzo, who is a

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have ever shared this, and so

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Speaker 1: couple of reasons why I never shared it. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I thought about it, and I'm like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: I'll tell my side. How about that? But I'd like

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Speaker 1: to be respectful. I'm always weird about people's stories that

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Speaker 1: It just seems like, you know, I would say things

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Speaker 1: Have you heard the latest news about in the cryptid world?

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Speaker 1: Do you hear about this mummified mermaid that has a

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Speaker 1: I'm so good. I'm so happy that you're here and

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Speaker 3: even when before you were doing the Ghosted, when you

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Speaker 3: Oh God, twice it happened, and a lot of people

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00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: talk about this particular phenomena. I was sleeping and I was,

434
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: I guess dreaming, and I woke up in the middle

435
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: of the night. Now normally I wake up because I

436
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 3: got a pee. You know, this time I woke up

437
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: and my whole body was tangling and glowing, and I

438
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: didn't see anything but the room. And I wasn't high,

439
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: I didn't have I didn't smoke or anything like that.

440
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 3: The whole room was glowing. My whole body was glowing,

441
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: and I just knew it was him, you know, everything

442
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,239
Speaker 3: about it was Rick. And that happened twice in my

443
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 3: life really. And then years ago, about fifty years ago,

444
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: Professor Harold Brooks. He was an entertainer, but he was

445
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: also a ghostbuster, and there was a talk about a

446
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 3: house in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, that that had poltegeists. So

447
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 3: we he took us. He took me to the This

448
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: was before I met Rick. He took me. I was

449
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: with a show called four for Tonight four four Tonight,

450
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: one two three four four tonight comedy in War for Tonight.

451
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: It was a sight shower.

452
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a four person review. Okay, you know, yeah,

453
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: we played all the clubs on the East.

454
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: Coast, and this is one in sixties.

455
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 3: This was yeah, in the sixties. Yeah, And so anyway,

456
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: he's he took us to the to the house in

457
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 3: Fort Lauderdale. Nothing was jumping off the walls. But while

458
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 3: we were there, a wind blew the shed and the

459
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: door off the shed in the backyard, and Harold said, well,

460
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 3: I came here to debunk that. That was his idea,

461
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: or to find a ghost and do something about it.

462
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: I don't know how he did what he did about it,

463
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 3: but he said, I don't know if I don't know

464
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: if there was any ghosts in the house. Nothing showed itself,

465
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: but there was no wind all day there, and suddenly

466
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: a wind came up to such an extent that and

467
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 3: blew the door off the shed. Said so I keep

468
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: an open mind that this was probably the work of Postcadis.

469
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 3: There was also a teenage girl living in the house,

470
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 3: and often it's said about postageys that kids going through

471
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: puberty have such a disruption in their vibe that they

472
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 3: loose these powers that are able to what is it

473
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 3: called when you move objects?

474
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: I forget the word, like telekinesis.

475
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, tell, yeah, telekinesis. It was like it was like

476
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: carry without the big blood.

477
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a huge theory with with Poultergeist

478
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: is that there's usually a typically girl is what I

479
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: usually hear, a teenage girl that is kind of the

480
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: root of the Poulter guys. And it was I think

481
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: it's like a hormonal change or something, and people think

482
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: that it's essentially yeah, telekinesas.

483
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 2: And and they're sensitive to the.

484
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: People in the house. Don't realize that maybe it's her

485
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: that's that's making things happen. This is what people think.

486
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean, with years of studying this.

487
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: The Granite family themselves, there's a member I mean mentioned

488
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 3: any names, but there's a member of the Graned family,

489
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: a husband and wife and a child, and they have,

490
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: I understand, planning to move because the house therein is

491
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: so filled with noises and creaks and voices and so on. Really,

492
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 3: they believe that it's haunted for sure, and their their move.

493
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: Their their plan is to move to another house. I

494
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: don't want to say any specific things of their stories

495
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 3: because I don't want to employe their cover for whatever reason.

496
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: You know, tell me more, Tell me more.

497
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 3: Marcus husband, Yeah, Marcus was His name is Gaiama Lopez.

498
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 3: And everybody calls the market, Oh, his story is a

499
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 3: movie in itself. We won't go there, but oh my god,

500
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 3: what a life, he said, his life and how he

501
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: came to this country. What happened is after he lived

502
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,959
Speaker 3: with me for a while, we had a dear friend

503
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: and it might have been the birthday party where we

504
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: were raising money for Mike casingher who has had als

505
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 3: and he he's since passed away. We were his caregivers,

506
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 3: a wonderful human being, a landscaper, and he when he

507
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: was when we moved in to take care of him

508
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 3: in his home in Sunland. And one day Marcus was

509
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 3: up in his office, in Mike's office, and he saw

510
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 3: a shadowy figure and it moved throughout the room, he said,

511
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: and then disappeared. And about ten days later Mike was

512
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: diagnosed with ALS and he yeah, so he has a

513
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 3: story too. I don't know the whole details, but yeah,

514
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: it's out there. I mean, if people pay attention, and

515
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 3: then you don't want to misinterpret. You don't want to

516
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: just say that's a ghost. But you want to.

517
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: Why it's fun?

518
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but but but you want to you want

519
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 3: to look at it anyway. I do. I like to

520
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 3: look at it pragmatically. I'm convinced that these are not

521
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 3: of this.

522
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 2: Bordow.

523
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: These are bordoes Also there are bordos after you die

524
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,719
Speaker 3: and borders while you're alive, and the six altogether.

525
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: Jimmy ras, do.

526
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: You want to hear some ghost voices?

527
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: Yes?

528
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: And not the one that keeps talking to you.

529
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 3: Name.

530
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: Okay, it's time for EV or ev please. Do you

531
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: know what an EVP is? No, it stands for electronic

532
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: voice phenomena. It's when ghost hunters believe that they've captured

533
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: a ghost speaking. Usually it could be any kind of

534
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: recording device. It could be someone is filming with a

535
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: camera and so they hear a voice, or they're purposefully recording.

536
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 3: And they putting in a hearing aid.

537
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean the whole the whole thing is

538
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: that it's being recorded and and people put it on YouTube,

539
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: and then I spend hours on YouTube tube listening to these,

540
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: and then when I find a good one, I bring

541
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: it on in here and I'll play a couple for you,

542
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: and I want you to tell me what you hear

543
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: the ghost saying, and then I'm going to give you

544
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: some options of what the person that captured this EVP

545
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: believes it is actually saying. Okay, all right, so this

546
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: first one, this is from somebody on YouTube named John Bullard,

547
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: and it is at a place called the McRaven Home,

548
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: which is in Vicksburg, Mississippi. And this is actually a

549
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: place that offers ghost tours. It was first built in

550
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: seventeen ninety seven, and it's been built a few times

551
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: since then. But it has this long history and all

552
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 1: kinds of ghosts, and it seems to be the kind

553
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: of place that really embraces the fact that it's haunted,

554
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: and they welcome people in to do a little bit

555
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: of ghosts, to wors in ghost hunting. So, okay, what

556
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: is this ghost saying? Jimmy, did you hear it? There

557
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: is like background noise, but it seems to be a

558
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: female voice, and she sang kind of like a short sentence.

559
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: So let's try it again. Could you hear it?

560
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: I heard, I heard the voice. I couldn't hear words,

561
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 3: but I'm so it's hard.

562
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's try again.

563
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: This is the second time.

564
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 1: That's what it sounds like to you.

565
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: It sounded like to me.

566
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: This is the second time. Hey, it could be. Here's

567
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: the thing. Nobody really knows, but that's a good guess.

568
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: Let me give you some options. One of these is

569
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: what they believe it says, A, that's a funny old clock.

570
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: That's a funny old clock. B that's a flirty way

571
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 4: to talk, see, mess around and find out, or d

572
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 4: dance a funky little dance.

573
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

574
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: All right, let's play it again. It's one of those.

575
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 3: Not sound like this is a funky ghost.

576
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: There is like a a sound to me, honestly, it

577
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: sounds like something incredibly vulgar that I will not repeat

578
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: in front of such a refined gentleman as yourself.

579
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: They hear that a lot. I wonder why they like

580
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 3: to be obscene when they talk ghosts.

581
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't, I mean I would. Let's be honest,

582
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: why not, let's have fun with it. They believe that

583
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 1: this ghost is saying that's a funny old clock. It

584
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: kind of sounds like that. It also kind of sounds

585
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 1: like what I think it sounds like, which, use your imagination.

586
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: It rhymes with that. All right, here we go. That's

587
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 1: a funny old clock. You heard it? Yeah, it sounds

588
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: like it. Okay, This next one, it's a little bit.

589
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: It's shorter. It's a quick like little bloop. This is

590
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: from somebody on YouTube named Jay forty two day, and

591
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: it's at a cemetery in northern New Jersey. Now with

592
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 1: this one, there is there. They shot this outside at

593
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: a cemetery, and so there's what I believe to be

594
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: birds chirping in the background. But there's a voice that

595
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: speaks over the birds chirping. So let's try to hear

596
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: that that's a bird. Well, yeah, there is a bird.

597
00:37:52,280 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: And then there's somebody goingbtt yeah, yeah, what are they saying?

598
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: Stop that?

599
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Hey, that's a good guess, that makes sense. Stop that,

600
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: stop recording me. It's like the paparazzi style, like, let

601
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: me be that's what I hear. Okay, is it a Picasso,

602
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: B disgusting c mi casa or D stop that?

603
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 3: Oh? I mean wellsa and the first one the third

604
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 3: one sound.

605
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: Alike Picasso and mi cassa.

606
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, well they believe that.

607
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: It says mi casa my house in Spanish. Now that

608
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: we know that, let's hear makassa.

609
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: I mean maybe maybe it's very vague, but I like.

610
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 1: Stop that. Okay, Jimmy, let's do one more thing. I'm

611
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: just gonna list off a bunch of paranormal things, and

612
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: I want you to tell me if you believe in them.

613
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: If you have a story, if you have a theory,

614
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: just anything that pops up, anything that comes up in mind. Okay,

615
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting question for you. What

616
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: about past lives? Oh god, yeah, yeah, it seems like

617
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: you believe in that.

618
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely believe in that. I can't see and

619
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: future lives. I mean, I think the whole concept of

620
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 3: reincarnation makes so much sense to me. That you keep

621
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 3: you never come back worse. You wouldn't come back as

622
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: a flea on a pig's ass or anything like that.

623
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 3: You know, you'd come back as better than you were

624
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: before in some way. Not the same person, not the

625
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 3: same personality, but all of the accumulated experiences of your

626
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: life carry over into and when you're selecting a womb.

627
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 3: The third bart of of the dependent Book of the

628
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 3: Dead is where you seek a womb that is suitable

629
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: for your new life, if you remain conscious. If not,

630
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: it's done without your knowledge. You fall into a soul

631
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 3: slumber they call it, and you're reborn without knowledge or

632
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 3: memory of your past life.

633
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: That's most of us.

634
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: And then there are some people who are sensitive and

635
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: they remember that past, and each time they select a

636
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: womb they're waiting for a particular husband and wife or

637
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: a couple who's having a baby in a certain city

638
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: with a certain propensity. For say, in my case, I

639
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: would want to come back because I have unfinished business

640
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: as an artist. I lived my whole life. Finally they

641
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: made a movie about my life, and then I die,

642
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 3: and I want to work more now that they know

643
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: who I am. So I have that great desire to

644
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 3: come back and continue in some way until my soul

645
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: is finally satisfied that it's not going to bring me

646
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 3: eternal happiness. That you have to get to that point

647
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 3: where you put down your personality, put down your identity,

648
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: and become like the point of a pencil hitting a paper,

649
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 3: and that point where it meets is where your mind goes,

650
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 3: and finally you think of nothing and you become the

651
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: sugar instead of tasting the sugar. Then you stay in

652
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: that state for a while and you can select the

653
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 3: womb come back into a new life. I definitely believe

654
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Speaker 3: in past lives, but mostly I look forward to future

655
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Speaker 3: life because that's the fulfillment of all the past desires

656
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 3: that didn't quite satisfy us. And every human being on

657
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: the earth has to go through multiple lifetimes until they

658
00:41:55,360 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 3: finally realize that they don't have any more curiosity, and

659
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 3: then they jump off the wheel and they go to

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Speaker 3: that spot of nirvana and they are part of God's energy.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: That sounds good to me. When I think of things

663
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Speaker 1: like that, it really takes away fear of dying exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I can't say I'm afraid to die.

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00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I.

666
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Speaker 3: Want to have something to say about it. I have

667
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: advanced directives now and so on, you know, so that

668
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm not held there on life support systems. You know,

669
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 3: in my own advanced directive, I said, you can put

670
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Speaker 3: me on life support for no longer than three days.

671
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: I won't know what's happening. I'm on morphine. Fine, I'll

672
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: lay there. That gives three days for loved ones to

673
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 3: come and say goodbye, then unhook me. And that's what

674
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 3: Kaiser promised to do.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so and then on to the next one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm I can't say I'm looking forward to

677
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 3: it because I'm having so much fun, right, you know,

678
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 3: But I have faith that it's the way to go.

679
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: What do you think about haunted dolls?

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00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 3: Hunted dolls?

681
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of that really a doll being haunted.

682
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 3: I remember that doll biting the girl's ankles in that

683
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: movie if forget Karen Black's ankles.

684
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, about Trilogy of Terrorism. Yes, I mean

685
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: that's also kind of like the idea of a cursed object.

686
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Speaker 1: I mean, Juckie, Yes, I guess what I'm asking is,

687
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Speaker 1: do you think that an inanimate object could have a

688
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: spirit in it?

689
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 3: It could certainly have a vibration that could be interpreted.

690
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: Is that you know? I don't know, but I believe

691
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: anything can be can be embodied with the spirit if

692
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 3: the if the spirit behind it has that energy to spair,

693
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 3: you know, if they're so first of all, if they're

694
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 3: ghost and they haven't jumped off the wheel, they're kind

695
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 3: of stuck here, I believe, and they that's why they're

696
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: so active all the time. They're looking for a way

697
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: to the next level. You know. So maybe they because

698
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 3: of that, they get this excited and kind of twisted object.

699
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 3: Maybe they'll go into an animal or a doll. Now

700
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 3: that's another thing. Animals who This beautiful movie The Dog's Journey,

701
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: Oh oh, because there's several of them, different versions, so

702
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 3: beautiful because it shows the dog, the same spirit of

703
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: the dog going from body to body and winding up

704
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 3: back with his original owners after four lifetimes. You know,

705
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: it's all quite beautiful to me. It makes me heartwarm.

706
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 1: What about do you know about astral projection?

707
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 3: Yeah?

708
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: Do you believe in that?

709
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: Or I do?

710
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,320
Speaker 3: When I was in I was in the original Los

711
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: Angeles Company of Hair at the Aquarius Theater. It's all

712
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 3: covered up with buildings. You can't even see it, but

713
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:30,280
Speaker 3: in that show we were always singing about astral projection.

714
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, So have you ever had an experience

715
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: astral projecting on acid? You know what? I think that drug, psychedelics.

716
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: I think that there is something to those experiences that

717
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: it's a key.

718
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 3: It's a chemical key that opens the mind, that the

719
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 3: filter that we have. If everything came into us normally,

720
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 3: we would be crazy. We wouldn't know how to put

721
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: the lights John, There'd be so much a cacophony of

722
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: sounds and all kinds of images of running and rushing

723
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: through your mind. So so what would happen is it's

724
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 3: natural that if the chemical key will open your brain,

725
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 3: now all this information is coming in. I always advise

726
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 3: people don't take acid and go out into the world

727
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: to a party with a bunch of people that you

728
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: got to deal with. You don't want that. You want

729
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: to go into your mind, into your inner life. If

730
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: you do that, you can project outward and you can.

731
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 3: I remember once on acid, I was sure I was

732
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: floating on a cloud and it just felt like it

733
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 3: there was mist around me. I could I was looking

734
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: down and I saw people under me. And this was

735
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 3: all because of the chemical that opened my brain and

736
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: all these images came in. It allowed me the freedom

737
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 3: to travel in that world.

738
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Speaker 1: I mean, I have a theory that now I think

739
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: it could be different for different substances. But you know

740
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: how like when people are drunk, they say you act

741
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: like a like you kind of act like a toddler,

742
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: Like you might pee yourself, you might fall, you might

743
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, just certain things like a toddler.

744
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 3: For example, I was playing with my toes. Yes, what

745
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 3: are you doing?

746
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: But like it's it's kind of the same thing where

747
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: they say that kids can see spirits and and stuff.

748
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 2: Like that, And I think a lot of I think.

749
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 1: Yes, and I think a lot of times just because

750
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 1: you're not you're taking a break from worrying about the

751
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 1: human things that we're always worrying about as adults. You know,

752
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: how do I look? Should I do this? I have

753
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: this to do, I have got, you know, so many

754
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: things on your brain and you're cutting that off. And

755
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: so is that putting you back in tune with the

756
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: fact that there are spirits around you? There are there's

757
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: more out in the universe than what you typically see.

758
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's possible, but certain substances.

759
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've never done it without the assistance of the

760
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: mind opening drug. But I haven't done that. And so

761
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 3: I did mushrooms about six months ago. But that was nice. Yeah,

762
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 3: but I want to be like Alda Sucky. You want

763
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 3: to take acid on my deathbed?

764
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

765
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think I would too. I'm sober, but

766
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, if I was on my deathbed,

767
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,320
Speaker 1: I'd say, let's do it. Give me everything.

768
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jimmy, that's it wonderful. I had such a good time.

769
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 1: Me too. So one more time, let's tell everybody where

770
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 1: to see the movie.

771
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 3: Yes, March eleventh, it becomes available everywhere. Yeah, it's going

772
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 3: to be Apple TV and iTunes, Amazon Exfinity on demand,

773
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 3: Google Play, and cable Spectrum, Cox, Cable Voodoo. Nobody has

774
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 3: any any reason to believe they can't see this movie,

775
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: and they really need to see it because it'll enlighten you.

776
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,399
Speaker 3: It'll delighten you, and it'll What else can I say

777
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 3: that would be that kind of.

778
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 2: It? Will?

779
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm fighting you.

780
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 2: If you don't see it, I've frightened you.

781
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: It might frighten you when you see me on screen.

782
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: It might frighten you.

783
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 3: Alliterations. I love it.

784
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Speaker 1: I know it was such a fun time making that

785
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: movie with you. Thank you so much to Jimmy. What

786
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: a gift. I love him so much. If you want

787
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: to hear a little bit more from Jimmy, check out

788
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: Patreon dot com, slash ros, dress, Flasa, my second tier.

789
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: He's got some stories, baby, and you can find me

790
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: talking about haunted theaters on there while you're at it

791
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: on my new full length podcast. And if you want

792
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: to see more Jimmy, go see Moon Manner all those

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Speaker 1: places he told you. Please subscribe to the show rate

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Speaker 1: at five stars on Apple Podcast. If you have a

795
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Speaker 1: ghost story, you could leave it in a five star

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Speaker 1: review or email me at ghosted by raz at gmail

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Speaker 1: dot com. Oh my god, I shall also tell you

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Speaker 1: we have a favorite guest returning next week, John E.

799
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Speaker 1: L Tenny. Oh, if you haven't heard the last time

800
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Speaker 1: he was on, he was on early last year and

801
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 1: he is a brilliant thinker when it comes to the

802
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: paranormal and so much more, and we'll be getting into

803
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: it next week. You can find me for some not

804
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Speaker 1: so spooky content on Instagram and TikTok and Twitter. You

805
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Speaker 1: know where did find me? I'm around. I love you all,

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Speaker 1: both living and dead. But if I didn't ask you

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Speaker 1: to haunt me, don't haunt me. Came back a podcast

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Speaker 1: now Wick