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Speaker 1: Best and worse So the weekend, as we always do

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Speaker 1: made for TV golf event. I actually listened to golf,

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Speaker 1: by play. But that was the sports weekend. And then

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Speaker 1: of course you had the documentary on Michael Jordan and

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Speaker 1: the Bulls. The Last Dance came to an end last

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Speaker 1: night at ten hard series on the Bulls was satisfying

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Speaker 1: for both old and new fans. If you were there,

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Speaker 1: it was fun to reminisce just how great that team was.

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Speaker 1: If you're younger, hopefully you learned something about the Bulls

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Speaker 1: and there were iconic moments throughout the series. The flu

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Speaker 1: the push off on Brian Russell, the year he played baseball,

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Speaker 1: the Shrug against the Portland Trailblazers, sixty three against the

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Speaker 1: Celtics in the Garden. But ultimately, the Last Dance ends

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Speaker 1: where it began an episode one, and that was the

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Speaker 1: inevitable breakup of a great modern dynasty. You started the

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Speaker 1: documentary and you knew how it was going to end.

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Speaker 1: It ends with the dismantling of the Chicago Bulls. Jordan

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Speaker 1: other ideas. It seems unbelievable when you're watching it, where

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Speaker 1: Tim Floyd, We're gonna let everybody go. Mike's retiring, Dennis

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Speaker 1: how could you do that? It was about money, about

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Speaker 1: ego power. Did Phil want to be part of a rebuild?

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Speaker 1: Did you need to do a rebuild? How much would

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Speaker 1: least the Bulls and Michael Jordan went out on top.

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Speaker 1: Even if there could have been at least one more title,

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Speaker 1: Here's Jerry Reinsdorf talking about Phil Jackson not wanting to

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you would have kept Scotty because

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Speaker 1: But would they have eaten the San Antonio Spurs. That's

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Speaker 1: And then everybody knew. Everybody in the building knew Mike

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Speaker 1: why do I have just one person on him? And

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Speaker 1: if he starts to beat Brian Russell, I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I want anybody other than Michael to make the shot.

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Speaker 1: and that stood out in that that sequence there he

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Speaker 1: of poll question do you have for me today? So

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Speaker 1: did you come away feeling that six titles was a

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Speaker 1: bit disappointing for this Bulls dynasty. No, only from the

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Speaker 1: fact that Michael when he went to play baseball, that

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals In my opinion, probably so. Were they

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Speaker 1: been a good battle. But were they better than the

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Speaker 1: But that's where I would lean towards. I wasn't disappointed

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Speaker 1: I wanted to see Jordan continue to play. But those

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Speaker 1: two years, you know, in the middle, that's where I

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Speaker 1: was disappointed. Look, Jordan wanted to go play baseball. Great,

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Speaker 1: to see how they would go against the Houston Rockets.

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Speaker 1: That to me would have been very, very entertaining. What else, McLevin, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what this relevant question to that? What's the best team

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Speaker 1: that Jordan's Bulls beat in the finals are the Rockets,

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Speaker 1: Nick's Sonics, Sons, Blazers, or Jazz. The best team at

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go by Jordan and his words that it

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Speaker 1: was the Indiana Pacers because the Pacers had them on

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Speaker 1: that Pacer team was They were big, they were physical,

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Speaker 1: they were deep, and they gave Chicago a scare. I

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Speaker 1: of fun with Peyton and Kemp, Nate McMillan, Dent left Shrimp.

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Speaker 1: delivering the pizza too. When we had Will Farrell in here,

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00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 1: we had people who were trying they were fake orders.

426
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: We didn't order pizza. Somebody showed up and said, hey,

427
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 1: we got pizza for Will Farrell. I go. We didn't

428
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: order it and we didn't let him in. Yeah, seton, Yeah,

429
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: you know, it is interesting that after all this time,

430
00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: the pizza story finally comes out. It's been called the

431
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 1: flu game for twenty years, and now it's oh no,

432
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: it's actually food poisoning game. Why the story could have

433
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,800
Speaker 1: come out at any time? Why didn't he correct us?

434
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 1: Hasn't it been around? Everybody called it the flu game?

435
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: They're still calling it the flu game. The food poisoning

436
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: game just doesn't sound as I don't know heralded. Oh

437
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: is the food poisoning game? Yes, well, like you can't.

438
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 1: You can't correct stories like that because then the ones

439
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: that you don't correct must be true. You know what

440
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 1: I mean? Yes, mclovin, Yeah, I get the trainer and

441
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 1: there you know you can carbload if you're a heavy

442
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: athlete like that, you can eat pizza late at night.

443
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 1: I thought about that, and you know I can't carbload.

444
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: I don't work out like that, so pizza would kill

445
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: me two in the morning. How is it though, that

446
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: Mike is the only one ordering pizza or the only

447
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: one who's gonna eat the pizza that nobody else had it,

448
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: It makes it convenient nobody else had it, therefore nobody

449
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: else got food poisoning. Those are air quotes if you're

450
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: listening radio. So where's the pizza place? And where are

451
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: the five guys who went? How do those five guys

452
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: keep it secret all these years? Kept it quiet? Somebody

453
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: keep the receipt? Did Jordan's signed for it? You got

454
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: his autograph there? I don't know about this. Well, but

455
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 1: you can't exactly be the guys who admit that you

456
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: messed with Michael Jordan's pizza to get him sick so

457
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: he couldn't play in the game, right, But you didn't know.

458
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 1: That's like, we had nothing to do with it. We

459
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,919
Speaker 1: just delivered the pizza. We're pizza delivery guys. We didn't

460
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: make it. And what did you put in that would

461
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: would get him sick, like spoiled cheese. Here, doesn't somebody?

462
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: Does Jordan have a food tester? Yeah? If the Jazz

463
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,920
Speaker 1: had won the title, those five guys would be heroes.

464
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 1: There'd be a statue of those five guys carrying at

465
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Speaker 1: doctor pizza in front of what the building. But since

466
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: they didn't win, they're not heroes. Yes, Todd, wouldn't you

467
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: be up in arms? Were they up in arms? I

468
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: don't remember any stories about, you know, anyone going through

469
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,200
Speaker 1: the press saying how dare they accuse us of trying

470
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: to poison Michael? Jordan's so adamant that you didn't do anything.

471
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: We don't know. The story just came out last night.

472
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: We don't know anything about the pizza place. I would

473
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: like to find out about that if if it's not

474
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: you know, the flu PAULI see if you can order

475
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 1: some pizza there in Salt Lake. Salta is a hot

476
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 1: bed of Italian food. Dan, I don't know where I'm

477
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: going to start. Michael even in Salt Lake? Was he

478
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: in Park City? That's what I would want to know. Yes, mclovin,

479
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: you pick up a great point, like, how do you

480
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: know how to poison a pizza, and like, if you

481
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: do it, could you have killed Michael Jordan? Like that

482
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: doesn't sound realistic. How would you possibly do that the

483
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: plant to kill Michael Jordan. That's not why the five

484
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: guys are in standing up because they that's like a

485
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: huge crime, isn't it to poison a pizza? Deep dive?

486
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,640
Speaker 1: Deep dish? Next, Yeah, it's just it's kind of goes

487
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: along with Jordan. Why did he go and play baseball?

488
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess he wanted to pay tribute

489
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:10,760
Speaker 1: to his dad, all right, Next Jordan with the flu game. No,

490
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: it's the food poisoning game. Why did it take this

491
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: documentary for somebody to not clarify that and say, you know,

492
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: by the way, Mike had food poisoning. Yeah, I'm mccluban.

493
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,040
Speaker 1: There was a lot in this documentary like things that

494
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: were happening at three in the morning that the documentary

495
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: was down playing. You're like, yeah, I was, I was

496
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: at ac we got back by ten thirty, Like that

497
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,679
Speaker 1: was a consistent theme. But at late night stuff was

498
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: no no big deal. Well back then apparently it was

499
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: no big deal. But if it happened today, then of

500
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: course you know, we would be up in arms Jordan

501
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: or Rodman saying I'm gonna skip practice to go to

502
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 1: a wrestling event, and the fact that he did it

503
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: and he got fined twenty five grand, but he made

504
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: I think two hundred and fifty grand we're going to

505
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: and what are you going to do to Rodman? Like

506
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: just crazy stuff back then, And I'm on the periphery,

507
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: you know, I would only hear stories through, you know,

508
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: some of the other players. If it was Judd Bushler

509
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: or Steve Kerr, Bill Wennington, Will Purdue. That's where I'd

510
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: just say, hey, what's going on? Or you know, help

511
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: me understand this? Or does this always happen? How does

512
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: does Michael get along with Dennis? How Scotty? You know,

513
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: I would get information that way, but none of this

514
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: other stuff. And I think that there is this trepidation

515
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: that still exists with players, former players saying anything negative

516
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: about Michael Jordan. Look at Charles Barkley. Charles Barkley and

517
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan friends for two decades, thickest thieves, playing golf,

518
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: smoking cigars, having drinks, good friends, and then all of

519
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: a sudden, Charles criticizes Michael as an owner, but he

520
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: critiques him and saying he's got too many yes men.

521
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: So here's Michael who can critics size everybody, and you're

522
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: supposed to take it because I want you to be great.

523
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: Charles is critiquing Michael to become a better owner, get

524
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: rid of these yes men. Michael Jordan hasn't spoken to

525
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,959
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley since then, so Michael could dish, but he

526
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: couldn't take it because Charles was saying, as an analyst,

527
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Mike is not a good owner because he surrounds himself

528
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: with yes men. That found that struck me as hypocritical

529
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: on Michael's part. That Charles is saying something that is

530
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: real because Michael hasn't been a good owner, he has it.

531
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: Where's that same competitive drive to be a great owner

532
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: that there was is a great player? I was curious

533
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: about that as well. But Charles says something and Michael

534
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: freezes him out, and that's sad. It's unfortunate, and Charles

535
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: knows that they'll never repair it. But what Charles was

536
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: saying is probably accurate. All right, bull of phone calls

537
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: here Jimmy and Chicago. Hi, Jimmy, what do you have

538
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: for me in your dad. Hey, then morning, Hey, But

539
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: this is a couple of Hey, just a couple of

540
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: thoughts about last night's episodes. The Last Dance awesome, last

541
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: two episodes to close about, UM, I just love the

542
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: part when the guy was talking about someone was talking

543
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: about MJ always being in the moment and always ready

544
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: to perform. M I cried when they showed the clip

545
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: of MJ following into Pippin's arms during the Flu game.

546
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 1: Brought the memories. The love that they had for each

547
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: other was, you know, just was there. And mgs love

548
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: for the game was so transparent, you know, to the

549
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: whole world, his love for the game. UM also MG

550
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: walking to the hotel after they won the sixth titles

551
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 1: and then him playing the piano celebrating seeing that footage,

552
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: never never seen that before. That was awesome. And uh,

553
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: you know, I just think that you forget the greatest player?

554
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: Who who? Who was the player you loved the most?

555
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,479
Speaker 1: You know? For me and I'm sure for a lot

556
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: of people, that was MJ. So I just want to

557
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: share that. All right, Well, thank you, Jimmy. There was

558
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: something that out and probably nobody even noticed it, but

559
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 1: I did. And when they're running sprints. In practice, you

560
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: know who's leading the sprints. Jordan is talking smack and

561
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: he's running those sprints. So here is the best player.

562
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: And he never mailed it in even in practice. He

563
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: just never ever mailed it in. And it There was

564
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 1: part of me that felt sad for Michael last night,

565
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: believe it or not, because I think he was a

566
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: prisoner of his greatness. I don't know if he knew

567
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: who he could trust. I don't know if he had

568
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: a lot of friends. His friends were security people who

569
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: were paid to protect him. He had Ahmad Rashad who

570
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 1: was always there with him. Quinn Buckner was their former

571
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: NBA player, But I don't know. There was part of

572
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: me that I think that's why Michael started to tear

573
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: up in an earlier episode where he was talking about

574
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: how tough he was on his teammates. I don't think

575
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: that he could be anything different than what he was

576
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: and who he was. And I did feel sad for

577
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: him because I don't know how much he enjoyed it.

578
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: I think it was just in his DNA. This is

579
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: how I do it, and I can't do it any differently.

580
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: I can't be nice. I don't know how to be nice.

581
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: I have to be cutthroat. I have to win. I

582
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: have to win it everything. I don't care what it is.

583
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: One dollar poker, twenty five thousand dollars poker hands, I

584
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: have to win. I have to win in sprints. When

585
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: the luggage comes out, my luggage has to come in.

586
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: That's got to be tiring. Got to be tiring to

587
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: be in that vacuum in that world, but it's got

588
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: to be tiring to be around that constantly. But I did.

589
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: I felt a little bit sad. All right, we'll take

590
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 1: a break here, we'll get to phone calls. Coming up

591
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: best and worse than the weekend once again. The director

592
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 1: of the Last Dance, Jason Hare, he did a great job,

593
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was really well done. And

594
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: I still go back to the great line by Sam

595
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: Smith who joined us. Sam who wrote the Jordan Rules, said,

596
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: you know, based on a true story. You know, it

597
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: wasn't your true typical documentary, but it was entertaining and

598
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: just a great reminder for those of us who are

599
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: around it. And Reggie Miller will join us coming up

600
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: a little bit later on as well. Now, I was

601
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: I text Reggie last night prior to the episode and

602
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: I said, good luck tonight. He said it's a tough audience.

603
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 1: I said, it's an audience of one Michael Jordan. But

604
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: I thought Reggie came out well. I think Mike had

605
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: some great respect for him. Play of the Days up

606
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: next year on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks for listening

607
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch

608
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six

609
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can

610
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream

611
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: us live every day at YouTube dot com slash. The

612
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show got some phone calls to get too,

613
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Speaker 1: James and Utah leads it off by James, what do

614
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Speaker 1: you have? Hey, Good morning guys. Are we doing today? Good?

615
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,720
Speaker 1: First time, long time, sixteen to one ninety thing? Okay,

616
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: So I'm out here in Utah. And the guy that

617
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: delivered the pizza, he's actually a buddy of mine. I

618
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: wanted to deliver the infamous pizza to Jordan, and I

619
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 1: was texting him during the show and he's told me

620
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: the story before. He was actually working at Pizza Hutt downtown,

621
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: at a pizza hut that doesn't exist anymore. For the

622
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: never revamped downtown a couple of times over the last

623
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: couple of decades, but he was working late. He knew

624
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: the guys that worked at the Marriott. The Marriott's literally

625
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: two blocks from at the time the Delta Center. Knew,

626
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: you know, when the players show up and stuff. Now,

627
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: he was actually a Jordan's fan. He was actually a

628
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: Bulls fan, and so when the order came into the pizza,

629
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: he remembers saying, I better do this myself, guys. So

630
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: he personally made it pepperoni, large, thin crust, fifteen bucks

631
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 1: or so, and he wanted to make sure that nothing

632
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: happened to it, and that's why he made it. He

633
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: delivered it himself. Now he also mentioned that from the

634
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: show last night, there wasn't no five guys, it was

635
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: just him, because there's no way in the world security

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Speaker 1: is gonna let five guys deliver a pizza. The Jordan's room.

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Speaker 1: Grover answered it the fifteen dollars or so pizza gave

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Speaker 1: him a twenty keep the change called it good and nothing,

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Speaker 1: nothing out of the ordinary. He was making pizzas all day,

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Speaker 1: that's his job. So he was actually a little upset

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Speaker 1: and deserve that. Jordan got sick, but it was amazing

642
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Speaker 1: that he still won the game and makes for a

643
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: story to tell you know what the IT team wants

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Speaker 1: to talk to you. Can you stay on hold James

645
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Speaker 1: and now yes, sir, okay, Yes, story debunked, story debunked

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Speaker 1: in that's a full debunking. We're gonna have to have

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Speaker 1: episode eleven here, just like the debunking episode here the

648
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: last sauce, I like deep dive, deep dish. That's next.

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Speaker 1: You should voice it, h all right? Some phone calls here,

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Speaker 1: best and worst of the weekend. Also, Daryl in Texas

651
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Speaker 1: joins us, Hey, Darrel, what do you have for me? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Then I just want to say any good morning. But

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Speaker 1: I want to say on the Barkley deal, don't you

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00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 1: think Jordan was perturbed that he had to hear over

655
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Speaker 1: the air about how bad about the owner he was.

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00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: If they were so good friends, wouldn't it be something

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Speaker 1: that he Jordan had talked about, because on the flip side,

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00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: Jordan would have told him to his place, dude, your

659
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: bad owner. It seemed like Jordan heard about it on

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Speaker 1: the air from a quote uncle, really good friend and buddy,

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Speaker 1: that's the part I think I would be pissed off

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Speaker 1: about if I was Jordan. Yeah, but he was asked

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Speaker 1: about it. Charles didn't just volunteer it, and Charles is

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Speaker 1: readily available, and somebody asked about He said it on

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00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: our show before because I said, you know, what is

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Speaker 1: it that Michael doesn't evaluate talent? When you think about it.

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00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: You know his draft with Adam Morrison and Kwamie Brown,

668
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: those are really huge missus there by Michael. And with

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Speaker 1: Charlotte Charlotte has become just an average place. How many

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00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 1: free agents have gone to Charlotte since Michael's been there?

671
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: How many big name free agents to play for an

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00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: owner that's Michael Jordan. I mean, you know, those are

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00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: just the facts here. Like you know, I'm not I

674
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Speaker 1: don't take away anything that Mike did as a player,

675
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: but if I'm assessing him as an owner, he's been substandard.

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00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: That's all. I mean that we do that with other owners,

677
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: Daniel Snyder, that seems to be a yearly thing Haslam

678
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, Like we talk about owners. Mark Cuban has

679
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: done a great job as an owner. So there we're

680
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: just looking. If you're Michael Jordan and you're that great

681
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 1: as a player, how are you going to be as

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Speaker 1: an executive? How are you going to be as an owner?

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Speaker 1: It's all. And I think Charles, and maybe he could

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Speaker 1: have said it private, and maybe he said it private

685
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 1: at maybe Michael didn't like that he said it publicly.

686
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: Charles job is to say things publicly too. He's an analyst,

687
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Speaker 1: and I just found it that Michael couldn't accept that,

688
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: but he could criticize everybody and you were supposed to

689
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Speaker 1: take it. Here's Charles saying, for Michael to be a

690
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 1: better owner, he's got to get rid of these yes

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00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: men who he surrounds himself with. That's all. Caleb and

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Speaker 1: North Carolina backed on their show. Hey Caleb, Hey Dan

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Speaker 1: six five two fifty and yeah, just best and worse

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Speaker 1: than weekend. Actually, let me get back. I'm calling ds

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Speaker 1: on James and Utah. That's another tom Ohio story there

696
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 1: and then, but best and worst, best is just sports

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Speaker 1: back in general. This week. Loved watching German soccer. Then

698
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: worse was the golf on Sunday. I mean, no personalities whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Really hoping Tiger and Phil's match Sunday is better. Shout

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Speaker 1: out to chat Row, Love you guys, all right, Thank you, Caleb, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we decided on our chat row T shirt. There. I

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00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: watched a little bit of everything, you know, that the golf.

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Speaker 1: I'm just interested in seeing somebody do something that I'm

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Speaker 1: not allowed to do, go out there and play. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those aren't the best personalities you had, Rory, but you know,

706
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Speaker 1: if you wanted to get some affable guys there, that

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00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: would be you know, I wanted some conversation. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're slowly inching our way back there. Greg

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Speaker 1: and Illinois joining us. Hey, Greg, ADP good morning. He

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Speaker 1: best and worse in a question for you about the

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Speaker 1: last dance. Best is Karl Malone getting on the bus

712
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Speaker 1: after they lost. Pretty cool to me, yeah, pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Worse was learning how Steve Kerr's dad got assassinated. I

714
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: had no idea. Yeah, that's how he passed away. My

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Speaker 1: question for you is do you think do you think

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Speaker 1: declined an interview or maybe that's something we could ask

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Speaker 1: Jason Harrell later because he wasn't on there. I'm going

718
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Speaker 1: to ask Jason. I don't know if it was a

719
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: situation similar to John Stockton where the quarantine happened and

720
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: then they were trying to get John Stockton to do it.

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Speaker 1: Stockton didn't want to do it because he said, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to be part of a puff piece on Jordan.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Carl Malone, who I would think would be available,

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Speaker 1: I just don't know. I'll ask Jason here if Carl

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Speaker 1: Malone said that he didn't want to do an interview.

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Speaker 1: And I think I asked that with Jason last time

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Speaker 1: he was on, Like how many how many people said

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Speaker 1: no to being interviewed? And I don't because his Michael's

729
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: ex wife was not on there and his children were

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Speaker 1: not interviewed, and I guess that was by design. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know the ex wife is not going

732
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Speaker 1: to want to be no effusive in talking about Michael's greatness.

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Speaker 1: But did the kids have stories that That's the only

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Speaker 1: part that I would have been curious about. You know,

735
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Speaker 1: what do they remember about this? If they remember much

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Speaker 1: at all? All Right, one hour of the books, Two

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Speaker 1: more to go on this Monday, Best and Worst of

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Speaker 1: the weekend, More phone calls. The director of the Last Dance,

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Speaker 1: Jason Harri will join us coming up in about twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: and Reggie Milner stops by as well. I hope you'll

741
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Speaker 1: stay tuned here, Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick

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Speaker 1: Show