WEBVTT - Reviewing the PGA Tour’s Big Changes 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:02.520 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:04.920 When I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:06.320 And when I find my ball. 0:00:06.120 --> 0:00:08.920 In a brid egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg 0:00:09.039 --> 0:00:12.959 Friday fridagg Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run 0:00:13.000 --> 0:00:37.320 off of the hump course. Welcome back to another edition 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.760 of the Frida Egg Podcast. Today I'm joined by Joseph Lamania. 0:00:42.440 --> 0:00:46.479 Joseph and I discussed what the PGA Tour should do 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:49.600 to combat Live a few weeks ago, and I figured 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:53.280 with the PGA Tour news with the meeting last week 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.560 with Roy mclroy and Tiger Woods kind of heading that up, 0:00:56.640 --> 0:01:00.920 and then the PGA Tour swift implementation of said plan 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:04.200 for the twenty twenty three season, Uh, it would be 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:07.360 a great time to talk to Joseph again and see 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:11.200 really evaluate how they did and where it goes from here. 0:01:11.280 --> 0:01:14.720 Obviously a ton of details have yet to be sorted out. 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:18.920 Next year will be a truncated version of the full plan, 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:22.000 but figured it would be good to discuss, you know, 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.679 the finer points of where where it needs to go 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:28.000 as they continue to sort out all the little details. 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:33.479 With Joseph all. 0:01:33.480 --> 0:01:36.839 Right, big changes on the PGA Tour with that mind 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.720 brought back Joseph Leamangna, Joseph, thanks for coming on. We 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:46.240 obviously talked before the tour had really made any moves 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:49.440 about how it should combat live, and now they've made 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:54.640 some moves. So excited to discuss and see where we 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.480 stand with these changes and if it's enough, you know, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:02.520 significant chain to really you know, restructure the tour in 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.200 a way that's sustainable moving forward. 0:02:05.480 --> 0:02:06.320 Joseph, how are you. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.040 I'm great, Thanks for having me. Kind of a historic 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.120 day on the PGA Tour. I feel like this is 0:02:12.160 --> 0:02:14.960 a bit of a victory lap compared to where we 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:16.600 were a couple of weeks ago when we last talked. 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:21.760 Yeah, I think, you know, the tour seems to be 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:26.600 heading in a direction, and I think it's the correct direction. 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:29.080 Whether or not, you know, they get all the way 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.160 to where they need to be, I think it remains 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:35.680 to be seen. But for those that missed it, for 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.560 those that are tuning in and don't really know what happened. 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:43.960 J Monahan and Rory macleroy did a press conference at 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:48.880 the tour Championship on Wednesday morning, and they announced the 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.880 addition of twelve elevated events. So the big thing that 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:56.200 is the big change is that you will know when 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:59.680 the quote unquote top players and we'll get into what 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:04.560 the players are will be playing. So they have committed 0:03:04.600 --> 0:03:10.880 to play in sixteen events in addition to three other events, 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:14.760 and they are they include so they are the FedEx 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:20.120 Cup Playoffs, which is three events, the Genesis, the API, 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:26.200 that Arnold Palmer Invitational, the Memorial, the WGC Dell Matchplay, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:29.840 the Century Tournament of Champions, and then there will be 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.679 four other events that will be elevated. They have yet 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:38.080 to be determined, so four of the existing PGA tour 0:03:38.160 --> 0:03:42.480 stops will be elevated. We could speculate on those and 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:46.080 it sounds like moving forward, they are going to the 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:49.720 idea of rotating those four. I like that idea if 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.520 you're going to have to work in the existing structure. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:58.440 But then along with those are the players, the Masters, 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.880 the PGA, the US Open, in the Open, so the majors, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.720 the players and those other events, and then top players 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:11.280 will be required to play an additional three events. And 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:16.400 these top players will be based off of the PIP, 0:04:17.320 --> 0:04:21.640 so the Player Impact Program, the much valueed Player Impact 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:26.400 program that became effectively what Live picked off for their 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:31.160 player selection in the last year will be expanded. It 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.000 will go from ten to twenty players. The PIP will 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:38.680 go from fifty to one hundred million, and it will 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:41.839 have some changes. It will remove the Q score in 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.680 the social media score. It sounds like there will be 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:48.080 a PIP rating for like almost every player on tour. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.960 It sounds like that will be something that is tracked. 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:57.480 It's unclear whether it will be a public facing, you know, ranking, 0:04:57.760 --> 0:05:02.880 which is interesting. Along with that, they a couple things 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.520 for like kind of the rank and file members were 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:10.720 announced a earnings assurance program. Upfront, players will get five 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:15.320 hundred thousand dollars which will be go against their earnings, 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:20.200 so it's effectively a hey, this is a league minimum salary, 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:24.400 and as players earn money, it will go against it. 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:28.719 But it will be paid upfront to players and non 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.359 exempt players. So like guys that just missed out on 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:35.359 being top one twenty five will get a five k 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:40.040 travel stipend for each of for miscut so to kind 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.039 of ease some of those concerned. I think these were 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.200 just kind of bones thrown to the rank and file 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.720 as they completely overhauled the system at the top. So 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:55.480 this is going into effect in twenty twenty three. It's 0:05:55.520 --> 0:05:59.360 important the schedule is already announced, so their hands were 0:05:59.400 --> 0:06:01.680 a little bit tied as to what they could do 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.840 in twenty twenty three. I think it would look a 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:06.839 little bit differently. I believe these will be full field 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.640 events in twenty twenty four. They will cut down to 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.680 smaller fields for these special top tier events. But in 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:19.320 twenty twenty three, with the field, with the schedule already announced, 0:06:19.720 --> 0:06:21.919 there is really just a limited amount they could do. 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:25.000 But this is I think significant that they got this 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:28.720 done so quickly after the players only meeting last week. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.119 The fact that this has been pushed through in less 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:36.520 than a week's time is significant, and I think twenty 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:41.760 twenty four schedule will look significantly different than this year's. So, 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.760 Joseph off the top, what do you think of the changes? 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:52.080 Yeah, I think you put it well, that it's directionally correct. 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:55.080 That is, I will say that for it, and it 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.920 could end up being very good. There are some tbds 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:02.000 and we're have to see how some of that shakes out. 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:06.479 I think the easiest way to frame my perspective on 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:09.880 the whole our conversation last time. What we're going to 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:13.200 talk about today with the schedule is there's a business 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.040 quote I really like from Jeff Bezos which is stubborn 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:20.960 on the vision, flexible on the details, and there are 0:07:21.360 --> 0:07:23.480 certain things that I will be stubborn about that they 0:07:23.560 --> 0:07:26.480 need to accomplish these high level goals or else this 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.360 still isn't in a good place. How you get there. 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.240 Flexible on some of that, So I think we'll get 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:35.080 into that today, But overall it was a huge positive 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:36.360 step for the tour yesterday. 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:37.200 Yeah. 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:40.440 I think obviously for anybody that's been following the PGA 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:44.679 Tour Live debate and anybody that's been in the PGA 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.400 Tour camp, the last six months have been painful. Like 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.360 anybody that is like, Okay, I do not want the 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:56.360 Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund really owning and making decisions 0:07:56.360 --> 0:08:00.440 on professional golf, behalf, you know, whole, like them being 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:05.120 the de facto effective dictator of men's professional golf. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:08.280 You know, anybody that didn't want that to happen. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.400 This has been a very bleak six months, and finally 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.160 it feels like there is some action, and I think 0:08:18.720 --> 0:08:22.000 I think, you know, when I look at what happened yesterday. 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:25.520 I think there were two leaders of the PGA Tour 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:32.959 that stood up and one was somewhat confused, gave wishy, 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:37.319 washed answers, and one stood up there very clear. It 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:42.040 was very clear, concise and powerful with his messaging. And 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.960 Jay Monahan was the one that was seemed almost befuddled 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:50.559 and confused by what was going on, whereas Rory McElroy 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.840 stood up there and what stuck out to me And 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:57.719 I think what I would center on Rory's quote of 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:01.240 we're trying to build a tour for you young ambitious 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:03.960 players who want to be the best player in the world. 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:08.319 That needs to be the mission statement of the PGA Tour, 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:13.320 and that needs to be what every decision they make 0:09:13.520 --> 0:09:17.800 and every single little thing they do from here out 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:22.040 with this kind of restructure needs to be centered. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.679 Around that thesis statement. 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:30.880 And my concern centers around, all right, we've got the 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:35.720 big vision, right, who is executing the little details that 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:40.199 is going to make or break this idea? I think 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.280 like this, I think the big complaint from golf fans 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.760 will be like, Okay, you're just creating a bunch of 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:51.600 WGCs that weren't really executed. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.160 Well in the first place. 0:09:52.360 --> 0:09:56.320 And I think my big concern is that the players 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:59.400 have gotten together, they said this needs to change, this 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.440 is what we want to do, and they're handing it 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:05.520 back to the same people that screwed up the WGCs, 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:08.640 and we're going to effectively get the same thing. 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.600 Sure, yeah, I mean a lot of directions we could 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.480 go where A point that I wanted to make I 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.640 think is a natural follow up from what you just said. 0:10:19.720 --> 0:10:22.000 So I think the goal is to get the best 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.840 players playing meaningful golf, right, get the best players together 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:30.080 playing meaningful golf, And you're kind of suggesting with the WGCs, 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:34.120 like maybe the golf still isn't meaningful. You get the 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:38.800 best players together, but it's not necessarily meaningful. The point 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:43.120 I would make is we have to reform the playoff 0:10:43.200 --> 0:10:46.920 system and how the FedEx Cup points work, and that 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:50.160 will inform whether or not the golf is meaningful. So 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.920 if that is accomplished, I think we're there. I think 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.439 they've done the stuff that I will be stubborn about. 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.040 They've nailed it. If they don't fix that, if it's 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:04.240 still thirty players playing in the finals, and you know, 0:11:04.320 --> 0:11:06.960 too many players go into the playoffs and too many 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.840 events getting points, then we haven't accomplished that, and you 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:13.240 will end up with events that feel like wgc's. But 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:16.160 if they reform the playoff structure and how the points work, 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:19.920 then these events they are much easier to interpret for 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:22.640 the fan. You have the best players together and you understand, hey, 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.040 this guy's got to step up and play well at Memorial, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:29.040 at Genesis, at the Majors for them to qualify for 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:32.520 the playoffs. So if they do that, I'm bolldy on board. 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:33.839 What happened this week? 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:36.240 Yeah, I think that's the biggest question. 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:42.040 And I think obviously I do not envy Jay Monahan 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:46.160 and his team that have sold sponsorships through for you know, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:50.319 a number of years forward based off of one thing 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:53.520 and going back to the sponsors and being like, hey, 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:55.840 I know, we told you that this was like the 0:11:55.920 --> 0:11:59.680 greatest thing since slice spread, Like especially in the case 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.720 of I know, we told you that we've figured out 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.760 we've nailed this playoff system. You've I think they poured 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.800 in a billion dollars and you know you've put your 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.480 financial commitment behind this, but we need to change it. 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.280 I think the biggest question and you just hit on 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.559 is after twenty twenty three, knowing that, hey, in twenty 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:23.200 twenty three, there's limited things they can do after twenty 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:23.760 twenty three. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:26.400 What does the playoffs look like? 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:29.880 Because that's going to inform what these events look like, 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:33.400 as you said, and you know now that they've got 0:12:33.440 --> 0:12:36.199 this in place. I think this is a big part 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.080 of it. You know, what do the playoffs look like? 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:43.360 If there's going to be three events? How does that 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:45.560 get trimmed down? How do you go how do you 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.559 go from let's just say, let's take a number out 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:53.040 of the air, seventy players are in a typical elevated event. 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:57.040 How do you go from those seventy players down in 0:12:57.120 --> 0:12:59.400 the playoffs? How does that look? And I think that's 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.960 the biggest question, And these are the little details that 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:05.600 are going to make or break this for the tour. 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:10.320 Agree on the point of I don't envy him for 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:13.160 having to go back to FedEx and say we're changing things. 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:16.680 The part I disagree with that keeps getting thrown around 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:19.680 is that like FedEx is going to be so upset 0:13:19.679 --> 0:13:23.520 that we're dramatically improving the playoffs like this should be. 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:27.320 But I'm saying they sold the deal like you sell 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:32.079 a billion dollar deal under the pretense of these playoffs 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:35.040 suck like they effectively. And I think this is one 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.960 of the big issues with like the leadership staying intact 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.880 like and one of the things I wonder about long 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:46.439 term is like, how does the entire leadership team. I mean, 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.559 you can't teach an old dog nutrix. That is a 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.080 adage that is pretty set in stone. And the entire 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:56.960 leadership of the PGA Tour has operated under an old 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.760 system that has been outdated and ripe for disruption. We 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.600 have this disruption, We have a two year window where 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:08.000 they do nothing and the players have to put this 0:14:08.080 --> 0:14:09.960 all together for them, and then you're going to hand 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:13.480 it right back to that same leadership group. You know, 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:16.440 this is not just same on hand, it's everybody around him. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.200 You know, these people have been operating what they know 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.200 the business as can no longer be the business. 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:25.160 It has to change. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:29.680 So you know, the reality is this is where my 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:35.200 general lukewarm feel centers around. It's like, can these business 0:14:35.320 --> 0:14:40.960 leaders adapt and understand where it's going? And you know 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.880 this is the first the first challenge is going to 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:45.440 be getting FedEx on board. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:50.240 Sure, and again flexible on some of the details here, 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:53.240 but I do know that it needs to be somewhere 0:14:53.240 --> 0:14:58.320 around eight players playing for the championship, and the criteria there, 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:00.960 whether it's eight, whether it's twelve, it needs to be 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:03.080 that if any one of those players wins, you feel 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:05.240 like they were the champion for the season. That is 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:09.160 a non negotiable. How you move back and decide, Okay, 0:15:09.160 --> 0:15:12.040 it's gonna be thirty six players in the first round. 0:15:12.040 --> 0:15:14.080 However you decide to do that. I think there's some 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:17.240 flexibility around, but you need to have a special championship, 0:15:17.480 --> 0:15:20.200 and you cannot give FedEx Cup playoff points for every event. 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:22.560 I think that's my biggest concern from seeing this new 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:26.000 schedule is that, Okay, sure the top players are committing 0:15:26.000 --> 0:15:28.720 to playing twenty times, but is the incentive still for 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:32.360 them to play twenty nine times thirty times to give 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:35.560 themselves the best chance of qualifying for the playoffs. If 0:15:35.560 --> 0:15:39.240 that exists, you've diminished the value of the schedule in 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.480 a lot of ways, and the playoffs at the end 0:15:42.480 --> 0:15:45.120 of the year still don't have the appeal that they 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:48.960 should have for a season ending championship. Is that do 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:49.680 you agree with that? 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:50.120 Yeah? 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.120 Yeah, so like, just to I think, to make your 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:56.560 point a little bit clearer, let's just use this year 0:15:56.960 --> 0:16:00.880 as an example to jump off of with the FedEx Cup. 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:04.440 And I'm gonna just run down the list as we 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:08.480 head into this week. It's Wednesday, it's Thursday morning. Here 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.720 is the FedEx Cup standings heading into East Lake. And 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.720 you tell me when we get to a player that 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:20.280 you would feel does not deserve to be in the 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.440 final event and have a opportunity to win the FedEx Cup. 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:35.440 All right, Scheffler can't lay Xalatorus, shawfle A, Burns, Cam Smith, Rory, 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:43.440 Tony Finow Uh, Sepstraca playoff anomenaly obviously. 0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:46.480 Yet do I have the button here and say stop? 0:16:46.960 --> 0:16:50.560 So Sepstraca, I think, like I think there are names 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:53.920 below him that deserve it. But this is obviously one 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.320 of the issues, like Sepstraca probably shouldn't have been in 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:57.640 the playoffs in the first place. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.200 Play part of the issue. We're talking about a full 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.520 schedule that they gave points to every event, right, so 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:07.919 so if you were to pare down the number of 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:11.600 events that actually pay out playoff points, somebody like Matt 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.040 Fitzpatrick would show up higher because he won the US 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:17.000 Open and it wasn't because he right right, it's not 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.600 getting your points through the RSM Classic, through Bermuda like 0:17:20.680 --> 0:17:25.160 those issues go away. So yeah, it needs to happen. 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.040 So we get to like Stepstraca out, Does Sung Jay 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:30.800 deserve to be there? Probably not right. 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.880 Right, I'd want to pull up his schedule, but I'm 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.480 I know Sung Jay he's a perfect person to talk 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.320 about because his strategy from the beginning has been play 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:44.480 as many events as possible, because he understands qualifying for 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.800 the playoffs isn't based on like your average points per event, 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.840 it's just your total. So the incentive is to play 0:17:50.880 --> 0:17:53.480 as much as possible. And that's a significant problem. I 0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:55.399 kind of want to we'll get there, but I kind 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.119 of want to talk about how that's a similar problem 0:17:57.200 --> 0:18:00.320 to to what the NBA is facing, and they're they're 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.000 doing something about it, So you have to remove that 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:05.080 incentive for players and some Jay's the perfect talking point. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:08.040 John Rahm maybe not. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:09.240 I mean he hasn't had a great year. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:13.720 Yeah, Scott Stallings definitely not. He's played really good golf. 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.840 He probably should have been in some sort of thing, 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.960 you know, recently, he's played really good golf, but you 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.760 know one T two doesn't vault you into the finals. 0:18:25.440 --> 0:18:29.200 J T definitely right with the PGA win, right. 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:31.760 Right, And and again we we'd want to look at 0:18:32.200 --> 0:18:34.200 how did he do in a subset of events. So 0:18:34.200 --> 0:18:37.280 I'm sure under our revised criteria, like he'd probably be 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:42.480 qualifying because we'd reward the majors heavily. Cam Young probably yeah, 0:18:42.560 --> 0:18:43.360 And he had a good year. 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:47.679 Matt Fitzpatrick in as we talked about, I mean, he 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.520 was leading strokes, gained total for a long time and 0:18:51.560 --> 0:18:54.040 then and then you get into like Max Ooma, Hideki, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.480 Jordan Speeds, Jauq Neeman, and I think at that point 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.520 you're like, no, none of these players. So if you 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:03.800 take out Sepstraw, Sung, JM John, Rom, Scott Stallings right there, 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:07.960 you're at twelve eleven players. So we're right where you 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.960 talked about eight to twelve players. 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:12.639 And I think what's so promising about what the PGA 0:19:12.720 --> 0:19:15.920 Tour did this week is having this schedule of fourteen 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:17.560 events that you know all the best players in the 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:19.879 world are going to play. Those are the perfect events 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:23.280 to give the FedEx cut playoff points too, and stop 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.040 there like that's the fourteen you know, all the top 0:19:26.040 --> 0:19:29.000 players are going to be there, and and that's all 0:19:29.040 --> 0:19:31.720 We're giving points to everything After that, we're gonna have 0:19:31.760 --> 0:19:34.000 to incentivize in a different way, but we're not gonna 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.400 set the system up to have bad incentives. 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:41.960 And I think, like, so the big question telling FedEx like, hey, 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:44.520 this is how it's gonna work right at that point? 0:19:44.720 --> 0:19:47.840 Don't you like that? Don't you say, like, yeah, hey, 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:51.080 if FedEx cup points are coveted, they're they aren't just 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:52.920 handed out like they are now. 0:19:54.440 --> 0:19:57.879 FedEx cup points means something, and they are. They are 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:03.480 the they are the currency of elite golf on tour. 0:20:03.760 --> 0:20:06.679 Right, and maybe this is a natural I think some 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.040 of the counter argument here will be, Okay, if that's 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.720 how you do things, then how do you end up 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:16.680 doing status on tour if only those fourteen events are 0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.439 paying out? Like what do the other events represent? And 0:20:20.119 --> 0:20:21.959 I think the best solution that I can come up 0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:26.480 with is you maintain basically two lists. You have your 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.320 FedEx cup points list and you have an eligibility list, 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:33.119 which could sort of be similar to like the official 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:36.399 World Golf rankings, but internal to the PGA Tour. You 0:20:36.480 --> 0:20:39.159 just have a point system that when you're playing outside 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.719 of one of those fourteen events and in those fourteen 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:46.240 events you're accruing points. They just aren't. They don't translate 0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:50.200 into qualification for the playoffs. They translate into status. And 0:20:50.400 --> 0:20:52.359 I think what the PGA Tour will love about that 0:20:52.440 --> 0:20:54.000 is I think I came up with another list that 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:58.480 they can brand and sell. So that should be music 0:20:58.520 --> 0:20:58.920 to their ears. 0:20:58.960 --> 0:21:02.440 Maybe it could be the business to our top ten 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:08.400 right sure. Now for a quick word from our sponsor, 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:09.200 Rio Mar. 0:21:09.440 --> 0:21:11.120 It's been a while. 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Right? 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:41.320 I need to get some clarifying information on my understanding 0:22:41.359 --> 0:22:45.560 is that you're only that the PIP qualification does not 0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:50.320 qualify you for all of those events that but instead 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:53.200 if you that if you are in the top twenty 0:22:53.280 --> 0:22:55.960 and PIP, you must play in as many events as 0:22:56.000 --> 0:23:02.280 you qualify for. Basically, but broader point, I am not 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.320 a fan of the expansion of the PIP, and I 0:23:05.359 --> 0:23:08.960 think that's my biggest concern in seeing what they did 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.360 this week. I have a lot of reasons for why 0:23:11.400 --> 0:23:14.520 I don't like the pit being expanded. I think, for one, 0:23:14.600 --> 0:23:18.560 having a black boxed formula that spits out one hundred 0:23:18.600 --> 0:23:22.359 million dollars a year is a concern. And I also 0:23:22.359 --> 0:23:27.159 think you have to consider what in what it incentivizes there. 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:31.640 Do you want contrived drama and players trying to make 0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:36.320 a splash online because that's what ultimately they're incentivized by. 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.240 I mean, do you some of this stuff gets really 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:42.880 like part of the criteria's Internet searches. Yeah, there's enough 0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:44.919 money in this. Do you do you want to player 0:23:44.960 --> 0:23:47.280 figuring out how to set up bots to go search 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.840 his name all year? Like that's that might sound crazy, 0:23:50.240 --> 0:23:52.920 but this is incentivizing things in a way that I 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.960 don't think is necessarily healthy for the tour. And the 0:23:56.000 --> 0:23:58.159 point that I would make would be, I think players 0:23:58.160 --> 0:24:01.879 are already incentivized to have awareness, right there are business 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.960 opportunities that are available to you. There are sponsorships that 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:07.840 come to you when you have strong brand awareness, Like, 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.680 is it really necessary that the tour is allocating money 0:24:10.720 --> 0:24:14.480 to those players and providing that incentive on top of 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:16.679 what they already are incentivized to do. I think this 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.639 could lead to some behavior from players that you just 0:24:19.640 --> 0:24:22.280 don't want to see. And more importantly, I don't think 0:24:22.320 --> 0:24:24.879 a player should have to worry about their PIP if 0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:26.440 they're trying to be the best golfer in the world. 0:24:26.480 --> 0:24:29.119 Just let them play golf and things should take care 0:24:29.119 --> 0:24:29.840 of themselves. 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:32.720 I think this is You're probably gonna hear me say 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.440 this multiple times on this podcast, but I'm going to 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.760 go right back to the Rory quote. What should be 0:24:38.840 --> 0:24:43.040 the general thesis of this entire tour and every decision 0:24:43.680 --> 0:24:48.080 should center around does this work towards this? We are 0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:51.840 trying to build a tour for young, ambitious players who 0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.399 want to be the best player in the world. Nowhere 0:24:54.440 --> 0:24:56.399 in there does it say the most popular player in 0:24:56.400 --> 0:24:56.760 the world. 0:24:57.880 --> 0:25:01.760 This is you know, the PIP. If that hundred million 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:06.760 dollars a year was allocated in a different way, you know, 0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:10.760 maybe one like I think the biggest shortcoming of the PIP, 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.600 without a doubt, is that there is nothing in the 0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:16.760 PIP formula that has to do with how you play 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:20.360 on the golf course. Imagine if that NBA would operate 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:23.919 this way, it would like would we have somebody that 0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.919 was like a you know, like can we allow like 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.680 influencers into the pip Like does uh you know the 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.720 best trick shot artists? Like does he he have a 0:25:34.800 --> 0:25:38.159 chance at pit money because of this? Like it's just silly. 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.480 It It then becomes like, you. 0:25:40.359 --> 0:25:45.720 Know, it should be there should be a significant aspect 0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:48.040 of this that is based off of en course play 0:25:48.240 --> 0:25:51.119 at the bare minimum, if not all of it should 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.040 be based off like why don't you just have another 0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.680 one hundred million dollars that you can throw at your 0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:59.240 top players that that can go to ward off the 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.840 live to or money. And that's the other thing that 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.280 I wanted to talk about maybe later is like how's 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.640 liv going to respond to this? Because there is going 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:10.280 to be a response, And to think like the tour 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:13.560 has already made the mistake of at Riviera thinking it 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.520 was over when the film comments came out, We're moving on. 0:26:16.960 --> 0:26:17.800 This is not over. 0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.320 It's it's going to be a five to five year 0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:24.200 battle here, Like everybody's dug in the tour has made 0:26:24.440 --> 0:26:26.600 a counter move back, and there's going to be something 0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:27.680 that comes back from Live. 0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.080 Yeah, and to go back to the to the Pip 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:34.720 and I think a whole part the continuity between the 0:26:34.800 --> 0:26:36.879 last time we talked and now, like my message is 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:40.440 going to be the same. This is an incentive issue. 0:26:40.480 --> 0:26:42.719 So if you are a top let's say you're an 0:26:42.720 --> 0:26:45.560 aspiring professional, you're you're twenty five years old, you just 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:46.920 get your PGA tour card. 0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.440 Say you're Pearson Cootie. 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.240 Sure, or even even take a step further, say you 0:26:53.359 --> 0:26:55.399 have like a language barrier or something, you're from a 0:26:55.480 --> 0:26:57.600 different part of the country, a different part of the world. 0:26:58.320 --> 0:27:00.359 Why why do you have to worry about how the 0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:02.680 player Impact program works? Like I think you should be 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:06.000 worried about your game, Like is my wedge game up 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:08.359 to snuff? Like do I know these golf courses? Can 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.159 I put on poa? Like why do I need to 0:27:11.200 --> 0:27:14.159 worry about Or my agent has to worry about how 0:27:14.200 --> 0:27:17.439 I can grow my brand awareness because some of our 0:27:17.520 --> 0:27:20.320 tours funds are being allocated towards this season end. Like 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.760 I just don't think it puts players. It's a there's 0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.800 a level of overhead there that I don't think players 0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.320 should have to be dealing with. And you have to 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.960 have a system of good incentives for a full blown 0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:34.960 schedule to work correctly. 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.080 Yeah, and just on that pip, the issues with the 0:27:38.119 --> 0:27:43.320 PIP right. So last year is a perfect example. Hideki 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:49.040 Hideki Matsuyama wins the Masters. It's estimated that that win 0:27:49.560 --> 0:27:53.040 is a billion dollar win for Hideki Japan. And I 0:27:53.440 --> 0:27:56.280 think majority of people listening to this podcast are Americans, 0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.560 And if you're just a golf fan, you know, you 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:05.280 might not understand like Japan is a golf craze country. 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:08.440 Japan is a vital you know, when you talk about 0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.600 the tour and their growth, like you know a company, 0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.600 their values a lot of times predicated on how much 0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.640 bigger can your game get. Japan is a big piece 0:28:17.680 --> 0:28:21.120 of this puzzle. It is a wealthy country that has 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:26.280 a lot of golf fans. Hideki Matsuyama is Japan's Michael 0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:29.280 Jordan in a way. You know, you go to an 0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:33.560 event and Hideki made the cut on the number. You know, 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:35.840 you go to a major, Hideki made the cut on 0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:40.040 the number. For most American players, those who made the 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.080 cut on the number, nobody is watching. Not one press 0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.280 is watching you know that player. If it's you know, 0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.200 Jordan Speed, Nobody went out and watched Jordan Speth right 0:28:51.240 --> 0:28:53.080 after he made the cut. You go out to Hedki, 0:28:53.760 --> 0:28:58.280 there will be a ce of twenty plus Japanese media outlets. 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.840 So Hideki wins the mass and wins his home Countries 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.720 PGA Tour event, which he said he felt more pressure 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:10.000 at than the than the Masters. You know these this 0:29:10.200 --> 0:29:13.760 is like sportsman of the Year in Japan without a 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.960 doubt home run, Like you know, he is the biggest 0:29:17.000 --> 0:29:21.520 thing in sports in Japan, this huge economic country for golf. 0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:27.200 He Bubba Watson's ten. Hideki can't even get it beat 0:29:27.280 --> 0:29:31.400 Bubba Watson in this contrived whatever you know, cash pot 0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:35.160 handout that you've you've put together and like I know 0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:37.680 they've updated this, but this is going to be like 0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:40.680 an inexact thing, like this is the pitfalls of it, 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.440 and Hideki didn't get that because it was an American bias. 0:29:44.520 --> 0:29:47.160 System is always going to be American biased because it's 0:29:47.200 --> 0:29:48.520 put together by Americans. 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:50.680 Right, That's that's the part. I think the Tour would 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:52.880 come back and say, look, we agree we messed up. 0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.680 Hideki should have been in there, but we've revised the system. 0:29:56.760 --> 0:30:00.200 Now we've removed social media, which I think they just 0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.600 couldn't figure out I was laughing because it said social 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.880 media is always changing, so it's hard to captures, like 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:07.280 they probably couldn't figure out how to handle TikTok, Like 0:30:07.400 --> 0:30:10.520 that's probably what that means. But to your point, like 0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:14.440 the it's always going to be a biased system in 0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:16.960 some direction, And why is the tour? Are you signing 0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:19.440 up for maintaining that? Like that's the part. Do you 0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.800 want to deal with the complexities of internet searches? And 0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:27.960 if somebody searches Hdeki golf, is that Hideki Matsuyama or not? Like, 0:30:28.080 --> 0:30:30.120 why do you want to sign yourselves up for maintaining 0:30:30.200 --> 0:30:33.560 that kind of logic and then putting it behind a 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.680 black box or putting it in a black box where 0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:37.800 people can't see how the calculation is working. I think 0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.520 if they're going to do this and lean into it, 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:42.280 it has to be public and the methodology has to 0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:42.960 be transparent. 0:30:43.280 --> 0:30:46.320 Would it be just better served with one hundred million dollars? 0:30:46.520 --> 0:30:49.000 And this is like a question I would ask a 0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:52.880 Rory McElroy if I talk to him, I would ask Jmonhan, 0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:55.360 if I talk to him, would the hundred Can you 0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.000 tell me with a straight face if one hundred million 0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:00.680 dollars would just be better served if you just said, 0:31:00.960 --> 0:31:03.680 if you finished in the top ten, we'll distribute the 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.840 one hundred you know, top ten of the season long race, 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.920 assuming that gets cleaned up, we're going to distribute a 0:31:11.000 --> 0:31:12.520 hundred extra million dollars in that. 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:14.320 I'd be fine with that, but I think what they 0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.080 would say is, no, we want to get some of 0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:19.440 these players who are really marketable, like a Tiger Woods 0:31:19.840 --> 0:31:21.920 who may not play and may not be able to compete, like, 0:31:22.080 --> 0:31:25.520 let's still reward them, or even potentially somebody like Ricky Fowler. 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.320 There are I still think there are other solutions to that. 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.040 I know the one I'd thrown out, people may not 0:31:30.160 --> 0:31:32.080 love it, But if you did, like an all Star 0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.080 weekend or some exhibition where fans could vote on who participated, 0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.760 that's actually a cleaner, more direct way of funneling money 0:31:40.840 --> 0:31:43.400 to some of the players that are most marketable. So 0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:48.280 I think broader point PIP is I can sort I 0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:52.120 can even maybe get behind the goal of PIP, but 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:55.720 I cannot get behind implementation and some of the incentives 0:31:55.760 --> 0:31:58.440 that it creates, and I think those are that's enough 0:31:58.520 --> 0:32:00.720 to nix the program. 0:32:02.040 --> 0:32:06.800 Yeah, and I mean to me, having this be a 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:10.920 a big part of your overhaul is a big mistake, 0:32:11.040 --> 0:32:15.560 because it was. This was legitimately one of the least 0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:19.400 effective things that was done to attempt to counteract Live 0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:23.320 last year. This was put in place to counteract Live. 0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:27.000 You know, this was supposed to appease people like Phil Mickelson. 0:32:27.560 --> 0:32:29.920 Five of the ten players that got the PIP are 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:31.080 now on Live, you know. 0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:34.160 But overall, Andy, I don't want to be too negative, 0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:36.520 Like I agree this this is a problem. I don't 0:32:36.520 --> 0:32:40.120 think it's overly significant. Like I still think the bulk 0:32:40.160 --> 0:32:42.880 of what they did yesterday like we're we're good, Like 0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.240 that was it was good, it was smart. We're on 0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:47.120 the right path, and it could end up being really good, 0:32:47.200 --> 0:32:49.440 especially if they reformed the playoffs and the point structure. 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:53.440 The PIP is a minor setback, but overall, we're moving 0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:54.200 in the right direction. 0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:58.360 I agree, completely agree. I As I said at the top, 0:32:59.280 --> 0:33:03.000 this was a very refreshing day. My next question would be, 0:33:03.160 --> 0:33:06.000 how do you go about filling these fields? 0:33:07.280 --> 0:33:09.840 Right? I think what I do? I think I go 0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:14.000 with the two points lists. So if there's one hundred 0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:19.040 and twenty spots, let's say the first seventy could be 0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:22.479 filled from players from the previous year who got their 0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:26.479 eligibility right. They're exempt, fully exempt into the next year, 0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.880 so one hundred and twenty spots. However, many of those 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.320 first seventy players decide to sign up for that event, 0:33:31.560 --> 0:33:34.600 they're registered. After that, you got fifty spots, and I'm 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:38.640 filling them with the highest ranking in this secondary list, 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:44.200 which basically is a ranking system of previous year Korn 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.160 Fairy Tour. It's the weakest events on the PGA Tour 0:33:48.160 --> 0:33:50.240 potentially plus some of the strongest events on the Corn 0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:55.840 Fairy Tour. And you have that eligibility list constantly updating, 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:59.600 so that you know you have a playoff list, eligibility 0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.920 list constantly in flux, constantly bringing up the youngest talent. 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.480 I think that's the way I would probably go about it. 0:34:06.560 --> 0:34:08.160 The only other way I can think of as doing 0:34:08.200 --> 0:34:11.880 it with like OWGR. But I think that introduces some 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:16.040 complexity and potentially some antitrust. I'm not a lawyer, but 0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.640 maybe you don't want to get more involved with OWGR. 0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:20.480 That is a way to do it, though, I mean, 0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.880 I think this is actually like kind of brilliant in 0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:25.920 the sense of like they have this opportunity to distance 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:30.120 themselves from the owgr and potential like legal ramifications of 0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:35.560 that as well. I think this is like an unbelievable opportunity. 0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:40.920 This might be the biggest opportunity outside of just we 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:44.279 aren't going to just hemorrhage our top players, is that 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:49.000 you finally have the excuse to really reform how the 0:34:49.120 --> 0:34:50.360 Corn Fairy Tour and. 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:51.760 The PGA Tour interact. 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:54.480 With this moment, you know, we have been stuck and 0:34:54.600 --> 0:34:58.360 this is like the thing that probably worries me the 0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:02.480 most about handing back the keys to the leadership that 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.440 has their entire lives have been around appeasing player one 0:35:06.560 --> 0:35:08.040 hundred on the PGA Tour. 0:35:08.320 --> 0:35:10.960 That's literally what their incentives are. 0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:15.560 If I am the standout collegiate player, if I just 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:20.719 Sam Sam Bennett, I just won the USAM how do 0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.520 we create a system that Sam Bennett can be up 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.040 in these big events if he plays well. If he 0:35:29.160 --> 0:35:31.160 plays well, he can be up in these big events 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.880 as fast as we possibly can get him up there. 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.000 And the biggest opportunity to me with this whole thing 0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:40.920 centers around reforming how the Corn Faery Tour and the 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:44.160 bottom tier of the PGA Tour interact and how these 0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:46.800 players get up to the top exactly. 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:49.640 And I think that the system that I'd be advocating 0:35:49.719 --> 0:35:53.160 for here would be pretty simple. So you know, maybe 0:35:53.200 --> 0:35:55.239 a win in a corn Fairy Tour event gives you, 0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.600 like whatever, twenty five points, which might be equivalent to 0:35:58.680 --> 0:36:01.399 a T ten, and some PGA Tour events which would 0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:04.120 be twenty five points, So you're kind of comparing apples 0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.680 to apples. And then at any given point, you could 0:36:06.680 --> 0:36:09.880 look at the eligibility list and it's the top's going 0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:12.440 to mostly be the top players on the PGA Tour, right, 0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.120 But once you start to get to seventy two, one 0:36:15.200 --> 0:36:18.520 hundred and twenty five, you're in that range that's going 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.359 to be updating pretty often. And then a player gets 0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:24.759 into it, a Memorial gets into Genesis, plays well and 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.200 earns playoff points. Like there would be a way to 0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:31.600 configure the system so that it's influx constantly elevating talent, 0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.840 and I think the cleanest way to do that is 0:36:33.920 --> 0:36:39.480 to separate the idea of playoff qualification criteria and eligibility criteria. 0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.000 It does not have to be that all seventy players 0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.759 who make it to the postseason are fully exempt for 0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:47.399 the next year. That's a concept that doesn't have to stay. 0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.360 It shouldn't be relegation or postseason. There could be a 0:36:50.400 --> 0:36:50.919 middle ground. 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.120 Yeah, I agree with that, and I think the biggest thing, 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:56.720 like as of right now, and I would even extend 0:36:56.760 --> 0:37:00.279 it down to Canada and Latin America, these points all 0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:03.200 need to have some value and relate to each other. 0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.560 Maybe the point the FedEx Cup points don't relate in 0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.760 any way, and I'm fine, and I think that is fine. 0:37:11.680 --> 0:37:14.719 Those are your you know, your top tier that are 0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:18.080 only earned in specific events, as we've talked about. 0:37:18.440 --> 0:37:21.799 But every other point on a tour that you run, 0:37:22.920 --> 0:37:27.200 maybe not Champions Tour that should be just gone in general, 0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:31.400 but every other point that you earn on Latin America, 0:37:31.520 --> 0:37:36.120 Canada corn Ferry or this bottom tier of tour events, 0:37:36.320 --> 0:37:37.800 they need to relate. 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:39.400 They should all be the same currency. 0:37:40.440 --> 0:37:43.120 Yes, And I would double down really hard on this 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:46.000 concept that they should be separate, because, for example, you 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.040 do not want to get in a situation where a 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:52.839 top player like Rory McElroy plays those seventeen regular season 0:37:52.880 --> 0:37:55.319 events and then feels like, you know what, I need 0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.480 to keep playing to have my best chance of qualifying 0:37:58.520 --> 0:38:01.440 for the playoffs. You want to have that. The incentives 0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.759 have to be set up properly for the stars, So 0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:08.160 by keeping those separate, you're not mixing up. You aren't 0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.120 incentivizing the top players in the world to just play 0:38:10.160 --> 0:38:13.759 in as many events as possible. That waters down the product. Again, 0:38:13.840 --> 0:38:16.279 I think the clear example here is the NBA, who's 0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.400 dealing with the same thing, Like, how do you get 0:38:18.440 --> 0:38:21.520 the stars playing in all of the regular season? 0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:22.719 Explain that a little bit. 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:24.400 There are a lot of analogies you can make for 0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:26.800 what the PGA Tour is facing. I think the NBA 0:38:26.920 --> 0:38:30.480 is actually probably the best one. It's a little different, 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:34.240 like there's guaranteed money to the players, contracts are guaranteed 0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:37.040 and stuff. But overall, they have an eighty two game 0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:41.360 regular season and then a postseason. And a problem that 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.040 the NBA has had is that some of the stars 0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:45.640 sit out a lot of the games, and it's not 0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:49.040 always the star's decision, like sometimes that's based on medical 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:51.600 advice and that you should be resting your body. Point is, 0:38:51.640 --> 0:38:54.160 it's really hard to play all eighty two games if 0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:56.560 you're an NBA player, and it's probably hard to make 0:38:56.600 --> 0:38:59.640 the sell to those guys that those games are that impactful. 0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:01.800 So the NBA is getting out in front of it. 0:39:01.920 --> 0:39:06.080 You know, there's not even a Saudi backed irrational actor, 0:39:06.200 --> 0:39:08.359 as Jay Monahan would put it, and they're considering how 0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:11.160 to make their product better. They've done many things to 0:39:11.280 --> 0:39:15.000 actually move towards creating a better system of incentives. One 0:39:15.040 --> 0:39:17.959 of those things was performing how the lottery system works 0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:21.240 for draft picks. To incentivize teams to continue to compete, 0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:25.080 They've changed their playoff structure so that they are now 0:39:25.800 --> 0:39:29.680 two additional play in spots, so if you're the ninth 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:32.520 or the tenth seed in your conference, you're still incentivized 0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.680 to keep playing. You don't want to be the seven 0:39:34.760 --> 0:39:37.120 or the eight seed now, so you're incentivized to get 0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:41.120 up into the sixth or the fifth seed. Like broader point, 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:44.560 they have evaluated how can we make the system of 0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:50.319 incentives proper And they're even considering shrinking their schedule. From 0:39:50.320 --> 0:39:53.400 what I hear that that's not a leading contender for 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.120 what they're going to do, but they may put in 0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:58.640 like a tournament in the middle of the season to 0:39:58.719 --> 0:40:01.960 substitute some games to make all of the games more 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.640 elevated and for every game to have meaning. So I 0:40:04.719 --> 0:40:08.880 think again broader point here, you have to constantly be 0:40:09.000 --> 0:40:12.440 evaluating how you make all of your games meaningful. And 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:15.360 if that system gets out of whack, then you got 0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:15.960 to rebuild it. 0:40:16.760 --> 0:40:16.960 Yeah. 0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.759 And it's such an important point because this is not 0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.680 over once, this is instituted. This is not we've we've 0:40:23.800 --> 0:40:27.800 beaten live and even if liv goes away to borrow. 0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:33.239 The goal of the organization should never, should always be 0:40:33.320 --> 0:40:36.240 centered around how do we field the very best product, 0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:39.480 how do we make everything mean the most we possibly can, 0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:43.920 as opposed to the mentality of the last forty years 0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.400 has been how do we make number one hundred on 0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:49.080 the on the money list happy? 0:40:51.440 --> 0:40:53.880 Right? It just it just can't work that way. The 0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:56.760 system has to be set up so that every player 0:40:56.880 --> 0:40:58.719 understands how do I get to the best to be 0:40:58.760 --> 0:41:00.640 in the best player on the PGA Tour, and what 0:41:00.719 --> 0:41:02.320 are the incentives that are laid out in front of me? 0:41:03.080 --> 0:41:03.440 All right? 0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:07.839 So with this, you know, obviously we've talked a great 0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:12.560 deal about the structure, Uh do you have You've talked 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.840 about the All Star game, and uh, one of the 0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:19.600 one of the things that reminded me of your topic 0:41:19.680 --> 0:41:23.680 of All Star game is Tiger and Rory, the tm RW, 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:28.520 the Tomorrow Group and their TGL which will be This 0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.920 was announced yesterday to kind of odd that it was 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:35.680 announced the same day as this widespread sweeping reform of 0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:39.120 the PGA Tour. But there will be effectively all star 0:41:39.320 --> 0:41:42.240 competition all Star like competitions. It will be a screen 0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:46.400 golf league played on Monday nights of tour events and 0:41:46.480 --> 0:41:50.000 they will feature people like Roy McElroy and Tiger Woods. 0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:52.880 They will be a team event. Uh you know. This 0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.560 will be set up in partnership with the PGA Tour. 0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:57.920 I think this is a obviously this was created by 0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:01.520 Rory and Tiger another avenue for top players to make 0:42:01.640 --> 0:42:06.360 more money and also opens the door. I think this 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:09.719 is like, you know, just from a business side of things, 0:42:09.880 --> 0:42:13.840 a landmark thing opens the door for joint ventures effectively 0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:18.000 with the PGA Tour and for profit profit ventures backed 0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:20.800 by players. Really, you know, like this is you have 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:22.680 an idea, bring it to the tour and you can 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.040 do it in partnership. This has always been a closed 0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:29.840 shop and this is a landmark, you know, in terms 0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.279 of where the tour goes and the things that are 0:42:32.320 --> 0:42:35.719 attached to the tour. I think it's a landmark, you know, situation. 0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:40.000 Oh it's great. Finally some innovation, right, like get get 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:42.720 creative with it, get nuts, Like if they're hitting crazy 0:42:42.800 --> 0:42:48.000 shots in these stadium like structures and crazy shots we've 0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:50.919 never seen before. Fine, like put something on Prime Time 0:42:51.560 --> 0:42:53.440 They're they're gonna. I think they're gonna do well. I 0:42:53.440 --> 0:42:55.440 don't know all the details here, but I think they're 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.560 gonna do very well on this concept. And it's creative. Finally, 0:42:58.719 --> 0:43:02.439 like this is excellent by Rory and Tiger. Yeah. 0:43:02.520 --> 0:43:05.360 I mean you think about like a lot of companies, 0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:08.600 like the one of the ways Salesforce became a really 0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.640 big company. It was an open platform right where, which 0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:17.680 means that other entrepreneurs, other innovators could build things on 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.719 their platform. Not all the innovation has to come from 0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:25.759 within the moat at Mpanavidra. 0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:27.600 And this is a great example. 0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:33.279 Allow innovation to happen outside of your bubble and then 0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:35.920 bring it in and profit from it. You know, not 0:43:36.120 --> 0:43:40.240 may that are nonprofit, right, but allow this to continue growth, 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.279 Like all the growth ideas don't have to be your own, 0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:47.759 right if you allow for open you know, collaboration with 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:51.640 other organizations. This is a really healthy way for the 0:43:51.760 --> 0:43:56.760 tour to grow their revenue, build loyalty with their top players, 0:43:57.160 --> 0:44:01.240 but also innovate, which is something that they've really struggled 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:02.239 with and. 0:44:02.280 --> 0:44:04.759 I hate going there. But also a way to get 0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.360 money to the most marketable players on your tour like this, 0:44:07.920 --> 0:44:10.400 This is how you do it, not through some contrived 0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:15.000 thing like the PIP so go this direction, like put 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:17.480 those players in the marketable players in a position to 0:44:17.520 --> 0:44:19.760 profit off of their awareness. You don't have to calculate 0:44:19.800 --> 0:44:21.120 some kind of awareness score. 0:44:22.239 --> 0:44:22.600 All right. 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:27.560 So now with the a as JMI hand, like say, 0:44:27.680 --> 0:44:31.960 irrational actor the live tour, do you how do you 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.880 anticipate their response? So do you do you foresee you know, 0:44:36.040 --> 0:44:38.560 anything that they are going to do to attempt to 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:41.319 kind of what would be their next chest move. 0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:45.239 I think it's just increasing the amount of money they're 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:47.319 paying to some of these players and trying to pull 0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.840 them over. But now it's harder to pull some of 0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:54.480 those top guys off. And I do think what's important 0:44:54.480 --> 0:44:56.279 for the PGA Tour is to be involving all these 0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:59.000 stars and the decisions like to be having those players 0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:03.480 only meetings and for Hedeki Matsuyama to feel valued, your opinion, 0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:07.479 you are wanted here. So it's it's gonna be harder. 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.200 But I think Live just has to keep throwing money 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:11.439 at these guys and figure out a way that they're 0:45:11.760 --> 0:45:15.239 kicking off some of these players who have bad contracts. 0:45:15.520 --> 0:45:18.560 I mean, yeah, you cannot have a closed off system, 0:45:18.880 --> 0:45:22.279 so they need to figure out some way, which kind 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:26.000 of goes against their business model to have players flowing 0:45:26.120 --> 0:45:28.880 between tours, whether it's like just the Asian Tour and 0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.440 Live Tour. You can't have a closed off system. All 0:45:31.440 --> 0:45:34.960 their world rankings are going to tank. So you can 0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:36.920 sign those guys up, but they'd have to be committing 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:40.000 to never playing in majors unless they qualify another way. 0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:41.960 That's that's the decision that players are making at this point. 0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:46.719 It's why the tour's most you know, I think the 0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:49.520 thing where you can be the most bullish on is 0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:53.239 if they continue to push on this idea of the 0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:57.479 most competitive tour. That was their best chip to play 0:45:57.760 --> 0:46:02.279 against a organization with more money than them, like the 0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:07.200 ability to financially reward players. You know, they can't compete 0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.480 with Live. There and that's why it's so smart and 0:46:10.640 --> 0:46:14.560 why every decision they make has to center around does 0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:17.040 this fit with Rory's We are trying to build the 0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:19.759 tour for the young, ambitious players who want to be 0:46:19.800 --> 0:46:23.080 the best player in the world, because Live's system can't 0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:27.080 compete with that, right and the only way they could, 0:46:27.320 --> 0:46:29.959 I think is through the Asian Tour. But like you said, 0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:32.800 that would go against a lot of players contracts, Like 0:46:33.120 --> 0:46:34.400 how are they What are they going to say to 0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:38.279 Henrik Stinton, who obviously he won, but the guy's washed, 0:46:38.760 --> 0:46:41.160 He's not a not a top fight player anymore. What 0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.080 are they going to say to Lee Westwood? What are 0:46:43.120 --> 0:46:45.880 they going to say to James Piatt, you know, who 0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:48.480 signed a contract, like isn't one of the better players 0:46:48.520 --> 0:46:51.000 in the world. Like that's the that's the way they 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:53.520 can fight back is through this. 0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:58.520 Yeah, but again I'm agreeing with you that the PGA 0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.279 Tour what they can do offer the best competition, and 0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:03.600 we're really close to it. We're not there yet, though, 0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.560 and that you the point I want to make. We 0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:11.560 have to reform the playoffs like this Without that, I'm 0:47:11.719 --> 0:47:14.719 out on what happened this week. If they do that, 0:47:14.800 --> 0:47:17.320 I'm fully in, Like, you can't. We can't call this 0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:20.520 a success until you've figured out the whole schedule which 0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:24.200 has to culminate in a special championship with only a 0:47:24.280 --> 0:47:26.080 limited number of players, like eight to twelve. 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:27.040 So I'm with you. 0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:30.000 That's the PGA Tour's best. That's the hand that they 0:47:30.040 --> 0:47:33.239 can play. They haven't they they've moved towards playing it, 0:47:33.360 --> 0:47:35.560 but they haven't fully played it. We have to see that. 0:47:36.239 --> 0:47:38.719 Yeah, And I mean, I will say this, like the 0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:43.000 big ideas are easy. The easiest thing is the big ideas, 0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:47.560 And what concerns me is really the small details, the 0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.440 little things like what and I think the Veedex Cup 0:47:50.480 --> 0:47:52.960 playoffs are really a big part of it, but like 0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:57.719 the the minutia of how guys get into fields, how 0:47:57.840 --> 0:48:01.360 people qualify, like all these little d tails are the 0:48:01.520 --> 0:48:04.080 things that are going to make or break this. And 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.919 I think there's a lot of celebrating and I think 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.160 that it is important because you know, it's there is 0:48:10.440 --> 0:48:12.800 a right to celebrate, but it's not over yet. This 0:48:13.000 --> 0:48:16.320 is we have you know, if you use another sports analogy, 0:48:16.600 --> 0:48:20.719 we've won the we've won the division, and now we're 0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:23.560 going to the playoffs. There's a celebration after winning the division, 0:48:23.719 --> 0:48:26.320 but this is not done yet, and they need to 0:48:26.440 --> 0:48:29.040 do a lot of work, a lot of hard work 0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:32.840 on these minute details in order to make sure that 0:48:32.960 --> 0:48:35.600 this is the smashing success that it could be. 0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:40.120 Yeah, so real quickly on that. If we were talking 0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:45.480 to Jamian right now or the commissioner Rory McIlroy. Part 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.680 of I think their hang up is tying a lot 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:52.520 of this playoff criteria to eligibility, Like they also announced 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.400 now that if you qualify for the Tour Championship, you're 0:48:55.400 --> 0:48:57.920 gonna have a two year exemption. Like I think we 0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:03.480 need to get away from this necessity to tie eligibility 0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.920 and playoff criteria together. Like this is what concerns me 0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.320 right now. You're saying thirty players are going to be 0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:12.160 exempt for two years and you're also going to be 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:16.759 playing in the Tour Championship. That is worrisome. I think 0:49:16.800 --> 0:49:19.759 we're potentially going to keep doing a Tour Championship that 0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:21.640 doesn't make sense and that doesn't have a lot of juice. 0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:24.000 How excited are people for the Tour Championship this weekend? 0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:27.080 Like, I bet it should be a snochal think about 0:49:27.200 --> 0:49:30.520 any other golf league or any other professional sports league 0:49:31.000 --> 0:49:34.759 that's last game of the season is like the one 0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:36.360 that gets the most poked fun. 0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:40.880 Of Imagine imagine waking up in whatever, checking Twitter, checking 0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:44.560 the newspaper and seeing, oh, Patrick Cantley is playing Rory today, 0:49:44.640 --> 0:49:47.919 Like that would be fun. Let's have an eight person 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:51.680 match play, that'd be awesome. So, again, huge win for 0:49:51.719 --> 0:49:53.720 the PGA Tour this week. They're moving the right direction. 0:49:54.200 --> 0:49:57.080 We need this final piece to be checked off for 0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.960 me to be fully on board with everything that they're doing. 0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:03.080 So I'm steven on that vision, flexible in some of 0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:03.640 the details. 0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:09.399 Exemptions should be the most coveted thing that you can 0:50:09.480 --> 0:50:10.399 get win. 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:12.040 Exemptions shouldn't exist. 0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:15.600 Shouldn't get an exemption for winning Bermuda, shouldn't get an 0:50:15.640 --> 0:50:18.319 exemption for winning John Deere, shouldn't get an exemption for. 0:50:18.360 --> 0:50:19.239 Winning The Travelers. 0:50:19.480 --> 0:50:22.480 In my opinion, shouldn't get an exemption for making the 0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:26.480 Tour Championship. We've seen friend of the Pod Roberto Castro, 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:31.440 make the Tour Championship not retain his card the next 0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:37.000 year two times. This is not You know, seasons are aberrations, right, 0:50:37.560 --> 0:50:39.520 you know, so many times a player has a down 0:50:39.600 --> 0:50:41.680 year and then a great year right after you know, 0:50:42.239 --> 0:50:44.879 you know, great years can pop up. You can string 0:50:45.000 --> 0:50:48.600 together eight hot weeks. You can string together one good 0:50:48.680 --> 0:50:52.040 week and make the Tour championship if that one good 0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:55.879 week comes at the right time. You cannot give out 0:50:56.080 --> 0:51:00.360 exemptions like giving out a two year exemption should be 0:51:00.440 --> 0:51:05.040 the most like valued currency on the PGA Tour. And 0:51:05.160 --> 0:51:10.360 once again, exemptions, the idea of exemptions go completely against 0:51:10.719 --> 0:51:13.239 the vision of we are trying to build a tour 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:16.120 for young, ambitious players who want to be the best 0:51:16.160 --> 0:51:21.360 players in the world, because that those exemptions block the 0:51:21.520 --> 0:51:24.600 young players coming up and having spots to play. It 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.920 blocks the free flow that you need in order to 0:51:28.000 --> 0:51:31.440 get young players that are the Cameron Youngs of tomorrow 0:51:32.000 --> 0:51:33.600 up as quickly as possible. 0:51:34.440 --> 0:51:37.560 Right and I think again, to build on that, we're there. 0:51:37.880 --> 0:51:40.680 The infrastructure is now laid that you don't have to 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:43.080 do that. If you have these fourteen events that are 0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:45.640 the only ones giving out playoff points, you're not going 0:51:45.719 --> 0:51:48.000 to have some of these names get filtered through to 0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:51.640 the Tour championship because they picked off weak fields. Like 0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:54.239 now we're in a place where we can eliminate that 0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:58.760 let's implement it only playoff points for those fourteen events, 0:51:59.520 --> 0:52:01.920 revised playoff structure, and now you have a season that 0:52:02.040 --> 0:52:03.719 makes sense and you have the best players in the 0:52:03.760 --> 0:52:05.839 world coming together to play meaningful golf. 0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:10.120 All right, I think that's a great spot to stop. Joseph, 0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:14.080 thank you again. People can find your writing at on 0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:19.080 substack Finding the Edge. You also do analytics consulting for 0:52:19.960 --> 0:52:23.160 high end golfers, so anybody that's interested in that can 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:23.800 contact you. 0:52:23.920 --> 0:52:25.400 What how do they contact you for that? 0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.760 You can reach out to me on Twitter at Joseph 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:31.680 Lamanya l A m A g NA, my emails on 0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:35.240 my substack as well. But I think the yeah, schedule 0:52:35.280 --> 0:52:39.839 optimization maybe has ventured into the PGA Tour hopefully taken 0:52:39.880 --> 0:52:42.160 some of the ideas. So Andy, if you want to 0:52:42.800 --> 0:52:45.640 co own a little schedule optimization business for the PGA Tour, 0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:46.759 I'm in all right. 0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:50.920 Well, you know we'll see the optimization will be limited 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:54.240 if if they if they don't give up playoff points 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:57.000 for everything, but if they do, if they continue to 0:52:57.080 --> 0:53:00.719 do that, optimization will give give a big edge to 0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.640 anybody that's looking to get it. You know, I didn't 0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:06.520 ever think about Sugjay as a manipulator. 0:53:05.960 --> 0:53:09.040 But he is Oh no, that's not my message. 0:53:10.800 --> 0:53:13.359 So all right, Jesseph, thank you so much for coming 0:53:13.400 --> 0:53:16.440 on and we'll talk to you soon and have a 0:53:17.160 --> 0:53:20.000 Hopefully this goes to the right direction and you really 0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:21.560 I hope you really enjoy. 0:53:21.440 --> 0:53:23.000 The Tour Championship this weekend. 0:53:23.239 --> 0:53:23.919 I can't wait. 0:53:35.040 --> 0:53:37.880 Thank you for listening to another edition of the Frida 0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:41.840 Egg Podcast. 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