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Speaker 1: Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock Vett. We

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Speaker 1: are part of the Volume podcast Network. This is the

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Speaker 1: betting show that makes the squares sharper and makes the

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Speaker 1: wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. I am

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Speaker 1: joined by'm my co host, my bff, my companion, my compadre,

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Speaker 1: professional better Simon Hunter. Hello, sioymon, God.

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Speaker 2: It's always funny going back and watching our Sunday show

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Speaker 2: because I honestly don't remember. It's always a fever dream

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Speaker 2: where I'm like basically just going through the motions. I'm

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Speaker 2: just exhausted, chewed up at that point, and I want

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Speaker 2: to apologize everyone. I should have been more excited about

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Speaker 2: our block kicks. I just think it's a professional better.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited at the moment, but I'm also like, I

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Speaker 2: don't know if people saw the clip of Hurts when

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Speaker 2: they blocked the kick and took it back for the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: I thought a little bit like that, a little bit

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Speaker 3: of like a psycho killer.

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Speaker 2: So I don't want to say I was very excited

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Speaker 2: about our wins three and two.

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Speaker 3: Love it every week.

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Speaker 2: I just you just have to understand, I'm literally I'm

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Speaker 2: just holding on trying not to say anything crazy on

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Speaker 2: the Sun Night show. My mind is all over the place.

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Speaker 2: And if it didn't come off that was very excited.

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Speaker 2: I am anytime me and Chack and win, especially a

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Speaker 2: gross week like last week and we survive our Survivor pool,

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Speaker 2: I am on the inside elated. I just need twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours of sleep before I can really express it.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny that you bring that up. You and

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Speaker 1: I haven't discussed that, but I got on that show

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Speaker 1: and I was like overwhelmed with joy.

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Speaker 3: You're a normal human.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And like I was, I was actually surprised, and

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Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Man, he's really taken this sort

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Speaker 1: of even Kilo professional better. I asked you, like on

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Speaker 1: the show, I texted you, can you believe what's happening?

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Speaker 1: And you just texted back football like and by that

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Speaker 1: I stand by I know, but your lack of enthusiasm

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Speaker 1: was marked. We haven't talked about it. I'm glad you're

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Speaker 2: If I was all right, and I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm not dead inside. I just it's just a hard job.

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Speaker 2: I know, it's people think you know, it's it's easy

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Speaker 2: at some points of your life. But yeah, the stress

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Speaker 2: of trying to get the pics right, not sleeping, and

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Speaker 2: then it comes through. I'm just yeah, arsonally show. I'm

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Speaker 2: just literally trying to hold it together and go through

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Speaker 2: the games. And that's why I think people enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: It's like you just see two guys, either happy or

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Speaker 2: both just equally dead inside talking about their picks.

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Speaker 1: Well, what's funny is I want people to picture this

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Speaker 1: when they think about the Sunday night show. You're miserable,

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Speaker 1: haven't slept in thirty six hours. I walk up from

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Speaker 1: to my third floor where my office in Slash Studio

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Speaker 1: is to do the show. And by that time, you know,

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Speaker 1: on the East Coast in the fall, it's dark and

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Speaker 1: I turn on the lights and that walk it feels

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Speaker 1: like the longest walk in the world, coming up to

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Speaker 1: the third floor to do that show on Sunday nights.

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Speaker 1: So when that respect, I completely feel your pain. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it's hard to be enthusiastic at the end of that day.

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Speaker 1: But we're going to do it for the listeners. We're

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Speaker 1: going to do it for the viewers. We're going to

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Speaker 1: do it for the people that are riding with us.

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Speaker 1: I hope they rode with us on the Chiefs minus

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Speaker 1: five and a half, I was all in. You were

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Speaker 1: semi in. I hope they rode with us on the

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Speaker 1: week last week, I was all in, you were semi in.

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Speaker 3: I know confident.

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Speaker 2: You were definitely the way more confident on the line side, Robers,

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Speaker 2: I'll do beaut's defense, But I still don't know about

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Speaker 2: that offensive line. And I think we got our answer,

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Speaker 2: which which which side has more problems right now?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's what we're gonna get to, right We're gonna

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Speaker 1: we're gonna dig in on all that today. Uh listen,

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of questions, all fair and appropriate

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Speaker 1: about how are we tracking our record? Where are we

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Speaker 1: telling people? The Tuesday show is where we will give

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Speaker 1: people the final results from Sunday and from the weekend

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Speaker 1: on the season. So for official record record keeping, we

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Speaker 1: went three and two over the weekend. For the season.

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Speaker 1: We are now nine and six. You should be seeing

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Speaker 1: if you're watching on YouTube, should be seeing a graphic

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Speaker 1: up there totally fair to be asking.

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Speaker 2: It'll be clear in the future too, right. We both

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Speaker 2: agree we'll have something better in the future.

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Speaker 1: We're just we're transitioning.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're transitioning, trying to make it. We're doing the

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Speaker 2: best weekend people, We're doing the best we can. We

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Speaker 2: want we want something better in the future as well

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Speaker 2: for tracking our picks, and we will have that figured

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Speaker 2: out mostly.

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Speaker 1: Listen. We used to have accounts at another company and

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Speaker 3: It's tough on both sides.

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Speaker 1: Listen. That's where and then we'll do our final picks

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Speaker 1: here on Sunday mornings. You got to listen and watch.

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Speaker 1: We'll flash the graphics every Tuesday. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: to get to today, including the end of the show

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Speaker 1: the long promised winner of our reader comment contest. The

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Speaker 1: winner will get some amazing swag. Listen, we're gonna figure

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Speaker 1: out what the swag is. We barely know where the

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Speaker 1: Slack channel is at this point. This is our Tuesday show.

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Speaker 1: We're going to review the entire slate interesting lines, Simon.

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Speaker 1: As exciting as the games were over the weekend, we

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Speaker 1: still had eight games decided by double digits, more than

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Speaker 1: three of those were decided by thirty plus points. So

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Speaker 1: we're going to see some inflated lines, right, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to see some teams that are truly terrible and

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Speaker 1: potentially no inflation is enough. And I think we both

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Speaker 1: changed our tune on when you know it's not quite

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Speaker 1: as obvious as it used to be to back the

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Speaker 1: big dogs. Don't forget Get the show with Sharper Square

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Speaker 1: Seeattle at Arizona. Arizona is a one and a half

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Speaker 1: point favorite at Hard Rock Bet Simon. I immediately flagg

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Speaker 1: this is a game I was interested on Sunday night

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Speaker 1: liking the Cardinals. That was before the James Connor news.

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Speaker 1: That feels like a sharp play to back the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: But I haven't bet it. I'm keeping my powder dry.

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Speaker 2: I honestly thought they would make the Seahawks a favorite

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Speaker 2: and the line. Am I rushing to bet? But I

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Speaker 2: am just as you. I'm on the Cardinal's side. Thursdays

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Speaker 3: But they've been hitting for us.

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Speaker 2: And this just feels like last week another easy spot

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Speaker 2: Biggest concern is the Cardinals secondary, right, they're really banged

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Speaker 2: as in this matchup. So honestly want to flip Kyler

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm waiting for, right, But that's.

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Speaker 2: Where I'm at where I'm like trying to be patient.

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Speaker 2: but I just don't think anthing will change me and Chad,

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Speaker 2: we'll be on the Cardinals most likely, and uh, if

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Speaker 2: not not one of my more confident bls this week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why it hasn't flipped yet. That's that's

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Speaker 1: what's confusing to me, especially with Connor being out, especially

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Speaker 3: There's a month and a half points, Chad, and there's

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Speaker 3: a pick out there. It will flip. Okay, there's already.

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Speaker 2: If they're if they're already moving to half a point,

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Speaker 2: which is such a dumb thing, they'll flip.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: Every every every book right now is one book did flip?

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Speaker 3: They're the only book right now that has cars as

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Speaker 2: Be patient, but we're already seeing, like here we are

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Speaker 2: very early Tuesday morning, they've already flipped that one book. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: pretty interesting line movement. I think your your early read

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks will flip this line. They're just they just

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Speaker 2: It's it's never a good spot early in the season

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it tends to be, uh historically at bad spot.

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Speaker 2: So I'll look at the trends and stuff, but I'm

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Speaker 1: The spot, Simon, can I wish you a top of

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Speaker 1: the morning, because we're going to Dublin and the Minnesota

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Speaker 1: a little bit early to watch that game. Wacky wacky

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Speaker 1: line movement on this one, because the Steelers were actually

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Speaker 1: of both of those games. You know, I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get the move Like, the Steelers have not been

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Speaker 1: buying Carson Wentz? Is that a sharp idea, Simon? To

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Speaker 3: That would be the square idea? Right?

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Speaker 2: oh and three. You know why they're not yet? That

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Speaker 3: I don't really need validation. I just think it's difficult

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Speaker 3: But this is like the first year I could say that.

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Speaker 3: So Pittsburgh here at this number.

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Speaker 2: I think it's honestly right. Like I honestly didn't get

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Speaker 2: the Lakings are a better team right now and health

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Speaker 2: are taking Wentz here with this number is like they're

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Speaker 2: so that's it's all Vikings money professionally early here. So

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Speaker 2: you know that could be the right read because it's

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Speaker 3: But I can't get over it, Like.

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Speaker 2: Plus three chance of getting three and a half against

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Speaker 2: And I said it last week. These backup quarterbacks, I

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Speaker 2: it because there's no real tape, Like they didn't really

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Speaker 2: Like they just didn't need to show anything on tape

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Speaker 2: going to force it. I'll take the plus the ear

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Speaker 2: It's just a gross international game.

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Speaker 3: But I love I love this for Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: It's just this team is so Timeland where that they

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Speaker 2: two and one, and it's it's the Pittsburgh Magic.

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Speaker 1: By the way, put some respect on Mac Jones's name

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Speaker 1: And you know, you walk me back because you don't

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Speaker 1: When in the past Tomlin magic worked because their defense

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Speaker 3: Just did this last week.

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Speaker 2: Here, tough number one, number two, We're on the same

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Speaker 3: But this is what they do every year. It's bizarre.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder about Anna Rodgers, who's basically playing flat

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's what I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's the early money here makes sense to be on

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Speaker 1: LA Chargers, the dominant LA Chargers, the Chargers who are

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Speaker 1: breaking our hearts at the New York Football Giants. Giants

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Speaker 1: are six point underdogs at home at hard Rock Debt

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about you know what the sharp

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Speaker 1: want you to answer these questions, four questions. I want

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Speaker 1: Do we think Justin Herbert is better than Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: Do we think the Chargers receiving corps is better than

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: Do we think the Chargers defense can be as effective

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Do we have the Chargers power rated ahead of the

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Speaker 3: Of course, of course yes.

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Speaker 1: So isn't it interesting that the Chargers are the same

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Speaker 3: It's fair.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe I had the Chiefs, I'd have to

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Speaker 2: look almost posive head it at six or six and

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Speaker 2: a half. And that's why I said at six and

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Speaker 2: a half, you want to ta get giants understood, of

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Speaker 2: we said all a week the five and a half

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Speaker 3: I was just terrified of Mahomes winning big. So I

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs. There.

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Speaker 2: This this is different, where this is Chargers versus bad team.

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Speaker 2: I have this a minus seven. This is the type

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Speaker 2: of team that they beat twenty to seven or twenty

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Speaker 2: to three. Like, this is totally Herbert might not have

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Speaker 2: his best game. You saw you can get pass rush

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Speaker 2: liking Denver there, like there was gonna be ways to

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Speaker 2: get after Herbert, which you know that final drop we

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Speaker 2: talked about that was like that's why everyone, all of

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Speaker 1: That's that's why for me. For me, he's a top

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not even saying much he's done anything.

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Speaker 2: Congrats on having him as your top two.

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Speaker 1: From you don't have them in your top ten.

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Speaker 3: I've in my top twelve.

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Speaker 1: Oh by the way, when I made the argument that

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Speaker 2: On, you just gave out your top twelve and you

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Speaker 2: had Tua ahead of Dak. I think you had Stafford

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Speaker 2: at eleven. Again, Chad, you don't wan to bring up

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Speaker 2: the QB rankings. You are terrible at the QB rankings.

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Speaker 3: One year young, All I know.

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Speaker 1: Is all I know is I and Herbert in my

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Speaker 3: Congrats and he still doesn't want anything.

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Speaker 1: You can't argue against this guy, continue with your.

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Speaker 2: With your argued against. I said he's been good in September.

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Speaker 2: It's like you guys always doing his career in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Chat's taking a victory.

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Speaker 3: Lab.

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Speaker 2: Also, Chad didn't have Hurts in the top ten last year.

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Speaker 2: Great call, Chad, you're killing it.

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Speaker 3: Keep it up.

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Speaker 1: I had hurts this year in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Great you won the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't get don't get pussy with me. Continue with

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Speaker 1: your analysis.

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Speaker 3: Please what you wanted. You want to bring up Q ranks.

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Speaker 3: You're a terrible LAB every year. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Herbert's aside, like, I think our contest will be five

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Speaker 3: I will be very tempted to put them in Sunday.

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Speaker 2: It's just a good number and a team that should

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Speaker 2: catch them here, right, because I think they're what three

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Speaker 2: to oh ats so historically probably a bad spot. But

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Speaker 2: it's just interesting where it's five and a half six

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Speaker 3: You know, this should be a really good match for them.

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Speaker 2: It's like they have a suffcading defense and an offense

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Speaker 2: to the Giants EP. So yeah, I think your early

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Speaker 2: readers right probably should be seven. They're kind of giving

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Speaker 2: prime time area spot, I guess. But early money obviously

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Speaker 3: Thing as the Chiefs. It's all all Chargers' money.

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Speaker 2: So I think we're gonna start seeing a pattern here

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Speaker 2: we will try to feed this giant side every week

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Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? Like why why aren't people able to

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Speaker 1: And maybe by the second half of the year, that's

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Speaker 1: so sharp with the rules, like he's not gonna there's

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Speaker 3: He's incredible. Yeah. I love guys who like football, and

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Speaker 3: guys who like football they like me back. I like

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make this Chad loves. It scares me

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Speaker 1: a little bit because it's so chalky it is.

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Speaker 3: You could be getting the best of the number where

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Speaker 3: this could easily get up to seven. I kick.

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Speaker 2: I mean like that was the thing I was spooky

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Speaker 2: and it's like this is such a good number and

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Speaker 2: a matchup they should win. And you can't always be

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Speaker 2: scared off, right, Chiefs rule, but was it twenty two

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Speaker 2: So that was again a great call by you last week.

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Speaker 3: If you want any chargers, I'm not going to fight

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Speaker 3: you off.

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Speaker 2: I told you if it's five and a half chat,

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Speaker 2: I'll probably be with you on Sunday getting in our contest.

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Speaker 1: I might want to come back to it. I'm going

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00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 1: to come back to it, all right. Uh you helped

440
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,440
Speaker 1: talk me into that, and it was it was one

441
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,440
Speaker 1: of like three or four that I'm debating. I didn't

442
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 1: have a consensus yet, Carolina. At New England the line

443
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 1: is five and a half right now. What's weird is

444
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 1: the line moved up four and a half to five

445
00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,439
Speaker 1: and a half with the wise guys coming in on

446
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:58,640
Speaker 1: New England. Do you feel like that's the sharp side here?

447
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 3: Definitely?

448
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,080
Speaker 2: Definitely, though definitely because I couldn't believe this number. My

449
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 2: model has a step four. But I'm not gonna I'm

450
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 2: not gonna get sucked in on this one because it

451
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: is Do we want to back the Panthers out there?

452
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,080
Speaker 2: Just won thirty nothing against the raable team that once

453
00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 2: again is very desperate in a corner, and like you

454
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,800
Speaker 2: said had the worst turnover luck ever a prior week.

455
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:27,840
Speaker 2: I mean two red zone, end zone turnovers, just absolute killers.

456
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 2: But that's what it's gonna be like with a young

457
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: quarterback in Drake May and running backs that just have

458
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,080
Speaker 2: fumbling issues.

459
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 3: And you know, the.

460
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: Brutal part for the pitturetright now was the kid they

461
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,120
Speaker 2: took Henderson, who was insane amount of talent.

462
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 3: They can't get them on the field because it can't

463
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,040
Speaker 3: pass blocked right.

464
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 2: And that's always the scariest part of these teams taking

465
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 2: these kids out of college because some of these kids

466
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 2: are so good they never had to pass block right.

467
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: If they were on the field, they were getting the

468
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,520
Speaker 2: ball and if a guy was blitzing, they would just

469
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:56,640
Speaker 2: flank him out of the backfield.

470
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 3: They never had to hit the guy up the middle.

471
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: So it's a little nerve wrecking.

472
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 2: Like I honestly wanted to be on the Panther As

473
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 2: soon as I saw this line again, I didn't bet it.

474
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 3: I was like, that's a Panther's line. We got to

475
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 3: do the Panthers.

476
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 2: Like Chad said, it's moved up from four to four

477
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 2: and a half to five and a half for a

478
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,359
Speaker 2: couple of books.

479
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, hard rock. Looking at it right now, it's up

480
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 3: to five and a half, so it gets a six.

481
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I won't be patient enough I

482
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,840
Speaker 2: have to take this Panthers team. But I can tell

483
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 2: you the professional side is the Patriots. This is a

484
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: Patriots line, Patriot's number. But I just I can't get

485
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,160
Speaker 2: over the fact that Panthers are undervalued. But yeah, it's

486
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: it's interesting this number is this big because I don't

487
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 2: know about you. I view these teams at the same

488
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,959
Speaker 2: I think they're both, you know, bottom tier teams that

489
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: any week can be good if they get the right

490
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 2: QB play, but overall they're just not trustworthy.

491
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm kind of surprised this line didn't open closer

492
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: to three or three and a half. To be honest,

493
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,199
Speaker 1: it opened really big, which was surprising to me. And

494
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: that's why the move was surprising to me that it

495
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: went so heavy in the Patriots direction. And I don't

496
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: know if it's people looking at this game as the

497
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: Panthers were basically handed a game and won and didn't

498
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: really have to do anything outside of themselves to win it.

499
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: All they had to do was not screw it up,

500
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,359
Speaker 1: and the Patriots flip side handed the game away. You

501
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 1: just mentioned it. They had a Drake May interception in

502
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 1: the end zone when they were driving for a touchdown.

503
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: They had a Remandre Stevenson fumble as he was about

504
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: to cross the goal line. Five overall turnovers. They didn't

505
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: recover any of their fumbles. That in itself is sort

506
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: of crazy crazy, right, Like you can force fumbles and

507
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: that as a skill, but recovery of the fumbles is

508
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 1: entirely luck. They had two other turnovers that were in

509
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: Steelers territory, including a Drake May fumble when they were driving,

510
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 1: which led to the Steelers game winning score. So I

511
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,600
Speaker 1: can see why the number moved a little bit because

512
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 1: betters have to believe that the Pats will just be

513
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: less unlucky and the Panthers won't be as lucky, but

514
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: awfully high for a quarterback and Drake May, who we

515
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,479
Speaker 1: have refused to bet on because we just don't believe

516
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: he can execute for a full sixty minutes.

517
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of fishy lines this week. This

518
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 3: is one of them.

519
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: Fishy, fishy, stink stinks Philadelphia at Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay

520
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,919
Speaker 1: is a three point dog. This one May be at

521
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 1: three at hard Rock, but it is three and a

522
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: half in a lot of places and moving in the

523
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: Eagles direction. And this one I want to ask you

524
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: specifically about because you highlighted this on Sunday night, before

525
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: we even started talking about games. You were saying it

526
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: was the week to fade the Eagles. I bet the

527
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: Bucks at plus three. Why is this line moving? Is

528
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: it the Eagles O line? Like are the Bucks O line?

529
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: Why is it going in the opposite direction?

530
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:55,640
Speaker 3: Yeah?

531
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: I think it's injuries. And this is a jersey. Hard

532
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 2: Rock is three and a half now on Tampa probably.

533
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 3: In your hands is gonna be three and a half.

534
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: I probably should do it. I'll make it. Simon says,

535
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: give me Tampa three and a half.

536
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 1: Wow, call me, Simon, what do you want?

537
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 3: I want to play a game? What kind of game?

538
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,679
Speaker 2: Simon says, this really is to me just based on injuries.

539
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: We talked about the books. They've been lucky. They could

540
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: easily be Owen three. They're three and oh and the

541
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: bookmakers know it's only been going for so long. On

542
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 2: the flip side, this Eagles team, I think they've been

543
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: very lucky.

544
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 3: They could easily be owing three. So I have a

545
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,479
Speaker 3: very skewed view in this.

546
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: Tampa has always played the Eagle as well, just as

547
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: an Eagles fan, it feels like every time we go

548
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 2: down there, we lose. I have to look up because

549
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true, but it feels like

550
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: for some reason, every year we play them, because every

551
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: year we either win our division or we're just scheduled

552
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: against them, and we go down to Tampa, it's one

553
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 2: hundred and ten degrees and we just get smoked. I

554
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 2: mean last year I can remember vividly, we got embarrassed

555
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: and they helped us though changed our entire offense because

556
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 2: of them. And this Tampa team has major injury star

557
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 2: offensive line, they have injuries to the secondary.

558
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: They might be without Mike Evans.

559
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: That's why this number is gonna keep moving like there's

560
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: a couple of games this week that a lot of

561
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 2: lines have moved because of injuries. So I'm gonna grab

562
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 2: the three and a half just in case the professionals

563
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: do come in and hit this back down to three,

564
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 2: which where I think, even with all the injuries, I

565
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: think that's where it should be. Because the Eagles have

566
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: their own injuries as well. They might be down. They're

567
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,360
Speaker 2: already terrible number two and number three cornerbacks against an

568
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: offense with Baker that Okay, you take out Mike Evans,

569
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: there's gonna be no Godwin. We saw him last year

570
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 2: without Mike Evans and Godwin and just no names, and

571
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 2: he won the division. He pushed it downfield like there

572
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: are just a bunch of ways this team in the

573
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 2: bucks and attack you. And the Eagles right now, as

574
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 2: great as they looked last week, we talked about it,

575
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 2: there's so many of the things that went their way.

576
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: As unlucky as they were in the first half, was

577
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 2: very lucky in the second half.

578
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 3: So championship pedigree.

579
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: All respect to the Eagles team, I do think they'll

580
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: win this game somehow at the end.

581
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 3: It's just what hurts does.

582
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 2: But now that we have the hook three and a half,

583
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this is another one on Sunday. Is gonna

584
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 2: be very, very tempted to put this in our contest

585
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: just it's going to be all Eagles and money, all

586
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,199
Speaker 2: the teachers, all the parlays, the public is going to

587
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 2: be all over this Eagle team. Because don't know about you, Chad,

588
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 2: and I'm not the biggest social media person it felt

589
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 2: like every sucker in the world was complaining about their

590
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 2: Rams bet that loss last week and how it was

591
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 2: the worst beat of their lifetime, and it's.

592
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: Like they don't get it. They're just a cog in

593
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: the machine.

594
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: They probably have this every other week, worst bet of

595
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: their lives, worst bet of the year. So no one

596
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: like we're gonna talk about the Rams get coming up.

597
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: No one's going to be on them, but everyone that

598
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: loss of this Eagle team is going to be on them.

599
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: And they know the injury report of this Bucks team.

600
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 2: So this is for sharp and square. The square side

601
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 2: can be the Eagles, very very sharp side's going to

602
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 2: be this Tampa team. But respect to the professionals, they've

603
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: been taking the two and a half that was out

604
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 2: there on this Eagles team. They took it right away.

605
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: Some of them were even taking the three. So yeah,

606
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: three and a half. I feel like it is a

607
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 2: really good number for us to be taken on the spot.

608
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually like it at three and a half.

609
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: And there are reports that Tristan Wurf's, their left tackle,

610
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: could be back. There are reports by the way that

611
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin could be bad.

612
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: I know, And that's how I'm wrapping now because, like

613
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: you just said, it could move.

614
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Totally could move. And by the way, thank god, you're

615
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: not spending too much time on social media. I feel

616
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: like when I was at ESPN, so much of my

617
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 1: job had to be policing talent who would get angry

618
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: at people who said things to them on social media

619
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: and then have to tell them why they can't do that.

620
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: I feel like I would spend all my time telling

621
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: you why you can't do that on social media.

622
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: Well, now you can't see people's legs, So anytime a

623
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 2: hater says anything to you and I do see, I

624
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 2: give it a like because I just think it's all

625
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: kind of funny where it's like, you know, again, before

626
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: the games are over, people tell you how stupid your

627
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: picks are and then they win and they's just either

628
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: tim or they block you, and it's like okay.

629
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: Guy Washington, Atlanta. So on Sunday night, this was the

630
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: first bet I made. I took the Falcons plus three simon.

631
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: If we're talking Sharper square, this was a sharp move

632
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: because it's down to two and a half. I don't

633
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: know if I like it as much at two and

634
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: a half.

635
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: No, I would say, if you had confident at three,

636
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: still be confident two and a half.

637
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: But I told you I don't. I don't know where

638
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: to go with this one.

639
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: I needed more time to watch the Penix film terrible

640
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 2: wish I didn't watch it. I feel like if I

641
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: didn't watch it, I would go all over the number.

642
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 2: But my view was I didn't want to make a

643
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: move on it because I need to know what the

644
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 2: health is with Jane Daniels. And to me, your early

645
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: reader's right right of the Washington blowout now on the

646
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: road against an Atlanta team that day, which you want

647
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: about Penix, He's actually played well at home and again

648
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: extremely small sample size, but I just even when we

649
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: talk on it, I was like, there's no way I'm

650
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: gonna end up having this one be one of our fives.

651
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 2: And let's Atlanta got up to five or six in

652
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 2: our contest where Daniels got it got cleared, and just

653
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: people extremely overvalued Washington. This feels like a Daniels is

654
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: going to play number right.

655
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, and most of the reports are that he will,

656
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: and Ian Rappaport, you know, even even said that it

657
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: was likely on Sunday that he would play the following week.

658
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: So I don't think if anything here is changing, I

659
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: think it's going to end up being at two and

660
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: a half. You're right about Penix, Like there was zero

661
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: to like about that game against the Panthers, Like they

662
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: couldn't convert on short fields following Panther fumbles, they missed

663
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: multiple field goals. Here's what I don't get. Guess who

664
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: got fired this week?

665
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird right there, wide receiver Cord they fired.

666
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: I kill your their wide receivers coach. Yeah, is that?

667
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: Like Michael Penix doesn't have any touchdown passes to wide receivers,

668
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: He's got one Robinson.

669
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 3: Believing that guy.

670
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: But I Killard when Michael Pennix is off of it

671
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: his worst game in a short sample size as a pro,

672
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: and I Killard is the guy who's the scapegoat. And

673
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: you give the wide receiver responsibility to the quarterbacks coach

674
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: who had been the wide receivers coach before, Like, what's

675
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: that about? That feels like that feels like sort of

676
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: corporate scapegoating to me.

677
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So because I didn't even when I first saw

678
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: that initial report, I just thought, again, always negative in

679
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: my mindset of Okay, he either broke some type of

680
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: law or something went on behind the scenes that we

681
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: don't know about. Because, like Chad just said, you don't

682
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: see the wide receiver coach go fired a week three.

683
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: It's that's a really random guy to blame. So I'm

684
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 2: with you on that that is one of the weird firing.

685
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: So that even though I'm on the Falcons at three,

686
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: and it's because of the number, the reason I don't

687
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: like it because that just feels like scapegoating, excuse making

688
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: inside an organization where are flailing. You know, they brought

689
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: in Kirk Cousins, the coaches frustrated. Something about that just

690
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right to me, you know. Then again, the

691
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: reason I bet the Falcons at plus three yesterday, I'm

692
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: doing my research and I saw this in the Arizona

693
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: Republic from a game right up from yesterday, and it

694
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: was clear the Arizona Republic was just trying to win

695
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: some SEO battle so they could be ranked first. When

696
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: you type in like give me analysis of the Commander's Falcons,

697
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: this was the write up and this is why I

698
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: bet it at plus three on Sunday night. It's logic

699
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: like this will Jade and Daniels play for the Commanders

700
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: in this game. Will it even matter? Marcus Mariota proved

701
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: to be more than a capable backup in Washington's NFL

702
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: Week three win over the Las Vegas Raiders, and the

703
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: Falcons couldn't even score against the Panthers. That is the

704
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: look of someone who read the box score, saw the

705
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: final score, wrote something as squeaks they could and has

706
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: no idea what they're talking about. That's why you bet

707
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: the Falcons plus three.

708
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 3: There you go, that's it.

709
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: I know you love trends. I did look on Killer

710
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: Sports NFL teams off a loss of twenty eight or more.

711
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: Falcons got blown out against the team who won by

712
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: seventeen or more. Basically a blowout fifty eight percent against

713
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: spread since nineteen eighty nine.

714
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes sense. That's all one spot I got.

715
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: I got one more for you after later in the show.

716
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: Cleveland at Detroit. Detroit is now an eight and a

717
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: half point favorite. Strange game because this was at ten

718
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: on Sunday on Saturday morning before the Browns game and

719
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: the Packers, and then it got down to seven after

720
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: the Browns won, moved back up to nine last night

721
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: after the Lions win now down to eight and a half.

722
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: I got thoughts. I want them to be the same

723
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: thoughts that you have, so tell me what yours are.

724
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: I've I was praying even though we were on the lines,

725
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: I was praying that the Lions did lose, they would

726
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: get rolled because this was going to be the most

727
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: amazing line spot because it's it's indoors on a track,

728
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 2: and that's that's all you need to know about this

729
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Lin's offense. There's ways to attack that the line of

730
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: that Lion's team when you get in this exact scenario

731
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,280
Speaker 2: where outdoors at home we have we've seen the sample

732
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: now like two games of them outdoors at home. You

733
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: can now mess with this Browns defense. It's just a

734
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: totally different team. And I can't wait to see the

735
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: splits at the end of the year if this is

736
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 2: truly going to be our our our way with the

737
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: scene that we fade them on the road, we back

738
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 2: them at home, because you know, I ten, Like Chad

739
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: said on Saturday, I did make a bet the look

740
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: ahead on the Browns very small obviously, but I was

741
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: like thinking that you know, this will come down, Like

742
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: we said seven and a half, that makes more sense.

743
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 3: So if you want to take the Browns eight and

744
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 3: a half, I get it.

745
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: I got this right at nine and a half, so

746
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: I do have it as a line line, but I

747
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 2: just think situationally, matchup wise, this is very, very favorite

748
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: towards this Lion's offense and the Browns offensive.

749
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: I just don't if they can keep up.

750
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: But the fear for me will always just be we're

751
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: back in the Lion's team that just had a historical night.

752
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: I think it was like some insane stat It was

753
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: the first time that the Rains had given up a

754
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: ninety yard drive at home in like ten years. The

755
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: Lions did it twice, so you saw the best possible

756
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 2: game the Lions could play in prime time. And like

757
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: Chad just said, this number has come down like there's

758
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: still a professional smart money coming on the Cleveland side.

759
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: So another line I'll be patient with.

760
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: I can't see it getting that much higher, and we're

761
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: already in the dead zone here, like eight and a

762
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: half is the key number.

763
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:50,839
Speaker 3: If it gets a nine and half, I don't care.

764
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 2: It's no different than me betting the Lions at eight

765
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: and a half. So I'll be patient, like the Lions

766
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,840
Speaker 2: here like their offense.

767
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: Just do the Lions show me what I need to

768
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: see last.

769
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: That they can still run the ball and that that

770
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 2: offensive weapons between the Porta Almon, Rod Williams. It's just

771
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: it's just so deadly when it's all clicking for that

772
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: Lions team. So yeah, it's uh, I'm not gonna let

773
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: the big spread scare me off.

774
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: I'll go a little truck here pick this Lion side.

775
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: Hello Detroit, you.

776
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said that. So glad you said that.

777
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of clarity after three weeks, right,

778
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: more than you have after two weeks. And what we

779
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: had last night was an example of the raven The

780
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: Raven's defense is troubled and we're going to talk about that.

781
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 1: But the Browns offense was so bad and so ineffective.

782
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: It could not move the ball against this Ravens defense

783
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: that has now been pretty much blown up by the

784
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: Lions and by the Bills.

785
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: That's fair.

786
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: So to me, I'm looking at this and thinking the

787
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: Lions defense and their past rush was pretty good last night,

788
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: and they were pretty efective against Lamar. You're getting a

789
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 1: much better team that loves to run up the score

790
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,240
Speaker 1: and go full throttle at home, and they're feeling themselves

791
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: right now, and they're coming home against a team where

792
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: they know they can sort of assert dominance. And they're

793
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: now two and one and they got the Packers at

794
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: two and one, and this thing's wide freaking open.

795
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: It's a tiebreaker game now, which is even crazy to

796
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: think if they win this that can be helped. The

797
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: tiebreaker at the end of the season were Green Bay,

798
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 2: which is just bizarre world.

799
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: So I love the Lions here. Oh gosh, oh gosh.

800
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: Say the poor Browns, Like I know, we talked about

801
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: how bad the Giants had to start the year. The

802
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: fact that the Browns have had to go you know,

803
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: a Bangal team Joe Burrow, then Green Bay and then

804
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: you know they're Ravens, now the Lions. It's just the

805
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: schedule makers, man, It's just I feel bad for some

806
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 2: of these teams. They just they started the year. They

807
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: were just like, Nope, you're gonna be zero and four,

808
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: one and three, no matter what.

809
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: The question is, do I wait for the Lions to

810
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: get to eight because it could get there, Like That's.

811
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: Why I said I said be patient, Like there, I

812
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 2: just I don't see it getting back to ten. I know,

813
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 2: I know some really smart professionals who are on this

814
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: brown side, and it's really about what we talked about

815
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: last week. It's just their D line is going to

816
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 2: be an insane problem for all these different teams that

817
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: have a little bit of questions at you know, guard positions,

818
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: which this is.

819
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 3: You know, there's some questions about the lines in tier line.

820
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: I know it didn't look at last week, but you

821
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 2: know they've improved three straight weeks.

822
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 3: That's where we're banking.

823
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: All this lines in tier line they keep they've gotten better,

824
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 2: they've gotten more in rhythm here, and you know, tons

825
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: of respect. Mason Graham, Miles Garrett are front four. We

826
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: know the deal with this brown steam, but I love

827
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: they were on the same Patriot's indoor. It's gonna be

828
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: a track meet. It's gonna be tons of points and

829
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: Joe Flacco you cannot keep up.

830
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: With that, can't. My worry is that they bring in

831
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel and that changes the scope a little bit

832
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: and he gets garbage time points and whatever I'm gonna

833
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk away and try to temper some of

834
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: my enthusiasm and not go all in on a team.

835
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: That just had a massive win on Monday Night. I

836
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: think the number is a little bit skewed. I think

837
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 1: that it should be closer to ten, to be honest.

838
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: Uh So, I still like the Lions, but I want

839
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: to wait until I can get a better number patients patients.

840
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 3: Right, that's all our favorites, Like, Yeah.

841
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,280
Speaker 1: I know that's that's what's that's honestly what. I couldn't

842
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: make a a sort of choice yet because I keep

843
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: looking at this and I like the Chargers.

844
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: Yea, like the I liked.

845
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 1: I like the Lions. Like, let's talk about Tennessee Houston.

846
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: Houston is a seven point favorite. Here's how I think

847
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: we've grown you. Ready. Two years ago, I knew you

848
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: like when I go deep. Two years ago. I think

849
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 1: we automatically would have bet the Titans as Division home

850
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: dogs against the Colts this past weekend, but we didn't.

851
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: Right last year, we would have passed on the game

852
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: entirely instead of fading the Titans when they were playing

853
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: like trash. This year, we did the right thing. We

854
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 1: faded the Titans, and we bet on the Colts. The

855
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: Titans are now three and seventeen against the spread. With

856
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: Brian Callahan as their coach the last season, plus three

857
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: games this past weekend. They couldn't even get a field

858
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 1: goal off at the end of the first half because

859
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: they were too disorganized for the operation. This is a penalty.

860
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: It got moved back, they missed the field goal. The

861
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: offensive line, which we hoped would have been a strength,

862
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: is just atrocious against pressure, which is something that Texans

863
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,280
Speaker 1: do well.

864
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: C J.

865
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: Stroud is seeing ghosts here on footsteps. Theirs success rates

866
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: amongst the worst in the NFL. The Titans are worse.

867
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: But what's more frightening for me about the Texans offense

868
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: is that they're not terrible against pressure. And that's and

869
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: yet CJ is still feeling the footsteps. So I don't

870
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 1: know what to do here. Tell me what sharp, Tell

871
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: me what's square, because I'm kind of at a loss.

872
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm happy passing this one. I would say the Sharps,

873
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: I probably will be Tennessee. Like you said, they're going

874
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: to be undervalued here, and their biggest weakness looks like

875
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 2: it's against the run. You still can't run the ball,

876
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: so that right there, it's like, okay, there at least

877
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: is something you can bank on with this. Tennessee team

878
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,760
Speaker 2: that their biggest weakness maybe won't be exposed in this matchup.

879
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 2: And it's just an insane number, like the fact that

880
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: this ozer and three Houston team is minus seven at

881
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 2: home against Tennessee. I can't believe the Tennessee is viewed

882
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: that poorly by the bookmakers, Like I have this line

883
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: four and a half, so I'm.

884
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 3: Way off of it.

885
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: I like the Tennessee's I would Chad just said, I

886
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 2: just even last week, I get it, it was a Tennessee

887
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 2: spot quote unquote, but I just couldn't get there with

888
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and all their weaknesses. And it's the

889
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 2: same thing here where the number makes sense. They are

890
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 2: insanely undervalued against a bad Houston's team that's being overvalued

891
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 2: propped up. It feels the same because of what they

892
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 2: did last year, right like and even this year their

893
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: defense has been good, but overall, man, it's that offense

894
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: and that's a huge number for a struggling offense to cover.

895
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: And we know the deals CJ, like you know there's

896
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: Stroud has got issues right now. So yeah, yeah, I

897
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: just can't be confident back in this side, even though

898
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm really tempted to because It just feels like the

899
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: books are telling themselves making this such a big number,

900
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 2: that this is a Houston game in a Houston spot.

901
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 2: But I'll just avoid this one like the plague hopefully

902
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: and want them to bet on it and that because

903
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: if I bet on I'm gonna have to put it

904
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 2: on one of my TVs. And I just I don't

905
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: have to watch this game. I've I experienced Houston last

906
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 2: week and that was enough for me. So yeah, I'm

907
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 2: happy that we can pass on this one.

908
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: Corner TV game. The meme that's going around UH this

909
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: past week is where CJ. Stroud was talking to Caleb

910
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: Williams last year and saying, keep your head up, you know,

911
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: stop making these mistakes or you're going to do great,

912
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: like all this parental advice, and then someone has thrown

913
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: a stat box up of how CJ is done since

914
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: that game versus Caleb, and Caleb is just better in

915
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: every metric.

916
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 3: You'll accept the major ones, which is win.

917
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: This division, which just winning winning his division and winning

918
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:29,840
Speaker 1: in the playoffs.

919
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, you and your I know the things that matter.

920
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,919
Speaker 2: Who cares you and your winning ways?

921
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 3: I need stats, I need I need touchdowns.

922
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: I need superficial numbers. Okay, New Orleans at Buffalo. Oh god, dude,

923
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: hear me out. Okay, we've talked about, like in Favorites.

924
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 1: You flagged this on Sunday night when it was at

925
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: fifteen and a half and said your ratings would likely

926
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: have it at sixteen. Yeah, well now it's at sixteen

927
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: and a half.

928
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 2: The initial reads right though, like I thought my motto

929
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 2: would have this at seventeen seventeen and a half. It does,

930
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: it has it's seventeen and a half. So I'll still

931
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: take this bull side.

932
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:12,879
Speaker 3: But this is just.

933
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: Another game where Chad knows me, like I'll just be

934
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: a coward. I'll probably have a ton of either alternated

935
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: lines like I'll break this down to six and a

936
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: half or five and a half or Bill's money line

937
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: bet it that way. But this will most likely be

938
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: our survivor pick. Like I love we check this so

939
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 2: we can just take off pick the obvious one. There's

940
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: just no world. There is no world where the rat

941
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: Spencer's Spencer Rattler beats Josh Allen on this spot at

942
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 2: home because, as you know, much as you want to think, well,

943
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 2: they have so many interests to their defense, right, the Bills.

944
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: They are susceptible to offensive like right now, like there

945
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 2: are injuries to their defense. We've seen it exploited basically

946
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: in every game they played this season. I guess the

947
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 2: Jets it wasn't, but you've seen that josh Awna has

948
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: to be Superman, so big spread like this with a

949
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: bad defense, I get by guys might be on the

950
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: same side. I just I can't get there. I like,

951
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: after last week, me and chat talk about it.

952
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 3: When you don't have.

953
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 2: A coach, which I don't think Kellen Moore is a

954
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 2: head coach and you don't have a quarterback, you're so

955
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: far behind. Now in the new NFL where it's like

956
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: these teams that go for it on their own thirty,

957
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: on their own twenty, you'll never they're never gonna be

958
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: in that position the Saints, And if they are in

959
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: that position, it's because they're already down by fourteen, like

960
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 2: they're just it's just all so bad.

961
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 3: And I know that we knew come to.

962
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: The season they were gonna they were trying to tank

963
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: for that first pick, But they fooled me a little

964
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: bit in their first two home games where it's like, oh,

965
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: I saw some fight I saw little heart. That Seahawks

966
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: game is a total other way. They quit immediately after

967
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: getting down by a couple points. So you got a

968
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: well rested Bills team hopefully gets healthy on defense, huge spread.

969
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: I'm on the Bill side. Even my pick pulls.

970
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: I've taken the Bills because, like you said, a lot

971
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 2: of my pickpulls locked in at fifteen and a half,

972
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: sixteen as long as yours is blow is seventeen. I

973
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: think it's a good number, a huge favorite against a

974
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 2: really bad team. And we've seen the new NFL's it's

975
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: a huge gap between these really good teams and there's

976
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: really bad teams. So nothing here to wrap my head

977
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 2: around for Back in the Saints elllier, then the Bills

978
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: have an injured defense and it's a big spread. I

979
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: just I wonder who's betting the Saint side of their

980
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: Then you're one buddy who just loves betting big dogs

981
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: and the professionals that are just like this. This is

982
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: a model of fourteen and a half, it's sixte and

983
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 2: a half. I'll take that number.

984
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: I don't know who's modeling that like that anymore. If

985
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: you're not. If you are, then you're not paying attention

986
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 1: to the past couple of years.

987
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 2: It's fucking to judge. Everyone's got their own models. Some

988
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: work I like Chaz are saying here that somewhere just

989
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: absolute dogshit.

990
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: Well, I'm a judger, That's what I do. I like

991
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,880
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992
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,040
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1025
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: The Rams wow, six and a half point favorites right

1026
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: May in May.

1027
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: Okay, in May.

1028
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: On Sunday night. On Sunday Night, it was four and

1029
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: a half. You talked about a Sunday night you said

1030
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: you're going to take the Colts at plus four and

1031
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: a half. It was the sharp move. You know, it's

1032
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: moved down to three and a half shortly after we

1033
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 1: got off the air on Sunday Night Live show Movese lines.

1034
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: That's not surprising because the Colts were dominant again on Sunday,

1035
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: but the Titans team is clearly pretty bad. What I'm

1036
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: trying to figure out is what is the edge for

1037
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: the Rams? Right? The Colts have gotten given up just

1038
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: two sacks all season while being blitzed more than any

1039
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 1: team in the league. The blitz right against the Colts

1040
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: is higher than any other team. The Rams edge has

1041
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: been their pressure and their their pressure rate in their

1042
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: pass rush. So my question becomes, are we playing with

1043
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: fire like we are three weeks in? How much of

1044
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: your ratings on the Colts moved to give you confidence

1045
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: betting the Colts in this game?

1046
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: I mean it's through a lot.

1047
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 2: I got very lucky though that I was. I mean,

1048
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:56,759
Speaker 2: people can go back, or I guess you can.

1049
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,240
Speaker 3: But I said that if the Colts had made the movie.

1050
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 2: In the Jones I was mean much higher on that team,

1051
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 2: and I never saw it being what it's become where

1052
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 2: it's like he's doing some payton.

1053
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: Manny didn't do paynon.

1054
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: Manny had the most juggernaut insane offenses. Like I look

1055
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: back to my childhood of like this pan Mann in

1056
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: years my teenagers, it was like he was the goat.

1057
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:20,399
Speaker 2: He was the greatest, even though Daniel Jones has done

1058
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 2: better and broken all his numbers early here, and it's like,

1059
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: that's that's the Shane steck envision. That's what he's just

1060
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: been pound the table, that if he just had the

1061
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 2: right guy, that they had the pieces there to make

1062
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: it all work.

1063
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 3: So Colts couldn't be.

1064
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 2: Higher the vibes right now, And that's what I bet

1065
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: that opening line. I couldn't believe it was four and

1066
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: a half, and I just knew there's no.

1067
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: Chance it would go up. But I am firmly on

1068
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 3: the Rams side.

1069
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,479
Speaker 2: Here you are, yeah, And this was almost as Sigmon says,

1070
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 2: but I think we can be patient and we might

1071
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: get the three like we did with the Eagles, which

1072
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: again didn't matter.

1073
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 3: But that's my job.

1074
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get you people the best number

1075
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 2: I have possibly can here, and this, to me looks

1076
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 2: number that could keep coming down because I think a

1077
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: lot of what you said is true, that the general

1078
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: public and professionals alike will be on that cold side

1079
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,799
Speaker 2: with that number, because through three weeks they have looked

1080
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 2: like the better side, and they look like a pretty

1081
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 2: even team. I know it sounds crazy to say, but like,

1082
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: they're not that different than this Rams team when all

1083
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 2: of a sudden done. The biggest weakness to me is

1084
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 2: this Colt secondary can be attacked. You saw though Knicks

1085
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 2: miss thick throws again against this Colts team. They had

1086
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: to settle for field goals that Stafford usually doesn't miss.

1087
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 2: And that Eagles game, like I said, every little thing

1088
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: went wrong and McVeigh he played like a coward.

1089
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 3: He really did. Where like in that second half he

1090
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 3: took the field goals.

1091
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like he just he just went so safe

1092
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,360
Speaker 2: conservative against the team that if you give them a

1093
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: little bit of life, they took it from him. So

1094
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 2: I see this as being a spot that even if

1095
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 2: they get up, they'll keep laying it on this Rams team.

1096
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: And I look at this matchup wise, I think it

1097
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 2: does come down, honestly to Jonathan Taylor as much as

1098
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 2: I do give respect to Daniel Jones. If they can

1099
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 2: get their running game going, then they can do stuff

1100
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 2: off play action. That's where you've seen Daniel Jones ridly

1101
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 2: excel because he's getting outside the pocket and he either

1102
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 2: has a deep down the field read and Warren or

1103
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 2: Pittman in the middle of the field, or he picks

1104
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: up that five seven yards on that first down of

1105
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,840
Speaker 2: his legs. And that's been so huge for that Colts

1106
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,880
Speaker 2: team where it's like it's what Anthony Richardon couldn't do.

1107
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 2: He always just took the run or he couldn't make

1108
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: that middle level throw. Daniel Jones has been doing both perfectly.

1109
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,919
Speaker 2: So I get the love. The vibes are super high

1110
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 2: for this Colts team. But like the Rams were faded

1111
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: last week, this is such a RAMS spot in a

1112
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 2: RAMS number. Of course, no one's taking the Rams minus

1113
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 2: three and a half right now, right They're just they're

1114
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 2: all gonna be taking the Colts numbers.

1115
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna be patient here.

1116
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: Love the Rams well when we remember a serious discussion Sunday,

1117
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 2: I maybe will make us force this one in because

1118
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: they're probably one of my favorite favorite bets this week, this.

1119
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 3: Rams side, and I just love their matchup.

1120
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: Matchup offensively and like you said, defensively, there are ways

1121
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 2: that the Daniel Jones can exploit them. But you're banking

1122
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: on Daniel Jones to play very well for four straight weeks.

1123
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: That is, in the NFL, only the very top level

1124
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 2: guys can say consistent weekend week out.

1125
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: So like you said, it's scared. We're standing.

1126
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: We're stepping in front of obviously the hottest team, well

1127
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 2: one of the hottest teams on football. But I'm gonna

1128
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: trust the numbers here, trust that they're overvalued, and trust

1129
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 2: that this is a cold same Colts team.

1130
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 3: That you know should have lost to Denver. That's that's

1131
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 3: fair to say.

1132
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 2: And uh, they're a team that's kind of being overvalid

1133
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 2: because they beat up on a really bad Miami team,

1134
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 2: beat up a really bad Tennessee team, played well against

1135
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 2: a pretty good Denver team where the Rams, they showed

1136
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: last week they're a legit good team against like they'd

1137
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 2: showed against the Egos team, and I think we're getting

1138
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 2: a nice Bilo spot here on this Rams team.

1139
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, in everything you just said to sum it up,

1140
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like we're betting this. We're not betting anything

1141
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 1: about the matchup. We're not bet anything about the teams.

1142
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: We're not even thinking about any advantages the Rams may

1143
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: have maybe a little bit against the Colts secondary, but

1144
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I didn't want to bet the

1145
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: Colts at all, even at four and a half. I've

1146
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: just been trying to figure out how to get to

1147
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: the Rams because I love them in this spot, totally

1148
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,399
Speaker 1: love them, and.

1149
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,160
Speaker 3: Bring me on the four and a half of the Colts.

1150
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: Be patient, then wait for the three because that's a

1151
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: real middle, Like that's a nice little middle. The books

1152
00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:35,359
Speaker 2: you're giving you, and they usually don't move it that

1153
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 2: much because they hate give them them middles. But I'm

1154
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: checking right now and it's all the money. It's all

1155
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 2: in the Colts. So, like I said, professionals, Joe Public,

1156
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: they're all coming in and across the board. Every book

1157
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 2: right now is three and a half on this number,

1158
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 2: So just be patient. I think one will pop us.

1159
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: We'll be able to get that three on this rams side.

1160
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to wait. I'm with you. I'll end up

1161
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: betting the three and a half. I entered never last week.

1162
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 1: I never got the Eagles three in Connecticut. I couldn't

1163
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: get it, so I had to bet the three and

1164
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: a half. I bet it on Sunday morning. I was

1165
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: walking my dog and I started to see the juice

1166
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: moving the direction that was going to move the number

1167
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: back to four. I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ, I'm just

1168
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: going to bet it right now. And I was miserable

1169
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: for about fifty nine minutes. Jacksonville at San Francisco. San

1170
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers minus three minus one twenty at

1171
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: hard Rock bet Listen. The news out of San Francisco

1172
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: is that Nick Bosa is out for the year with

1173
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: the torn Aco Here's the question you have to ask,

1174
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: has any team had more high profile injuries to more

1175
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: key players over the past five, six, seven years than

1176
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: the Niners.

1177
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: Now they have the worst injury luck, and it's not close.

1178
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: It's insane.

1179
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: This year was supposed to be the year they were

1180
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: healthy because theyd such bad injury luck last year.

1181
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: But at some point, don't we have to sort of

1182
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: ask the question, like, is there something going on with

1183
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: the trainer, how they how they treat their players. Not

1184
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: that I want to be defamatory, but I've heard for years.

1185
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,320
Speaker 3: I've honestly heard that for years.

1186
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: You have yeah about the forty nine ers, and yeah,

1187
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 2: I just I'm with you, Like it's interesting they have

1188
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 2: all these soft tissue, soft tissue injuries.

1189
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 3: The most of one obviously is just bad luck.

1190
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, this this game another game where I just

1191
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 2: couldn't believe this opening line.

1192
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 3: To me, it's a pretty line.

1193
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, because it gotten up to four and a

1194
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 1: half after the game. Oh okay, at it got up

1195
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: to four and a half on on after the games

1196
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:48,840
Speaker 1: on uh Sunday, and then the buyback started happening.

1197
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,359
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not then, maybe it is a mac Joins line,

1198
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 2: but I I have this if it's pretty, I have

1199
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 2: some minus sticks. And I know there's a ton of

1200
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,799
Speaker 2: injuries this foreign enters team. Sala is like he might

1201
00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: be the best defensive coaching football. I know Flores is

1202
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 2: unreal and Fangs isn't incredible for the Eagles, but like,

1203
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 2: I can't get over the schemes and the stuff he's

1204
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 2: doing with the talent they have on this Farings team,

1205
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 2: which I talked about coming the year.

1206
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 3: They're a very young defense.

1207
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:15,720
Speaker 1: And.

1208
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 2: He highlight whatever guys are good at. He just highlighted

1209
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 2: so well. And they bringing these free agents and solids

1210
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,480
Speaker 2: just made them be so much better than they were

1211
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 2: where they previously came from. So I just this is

1212
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,440
Speaker 2: totally like a pretty bed, but it's also just a

1213
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 2: solid bet. This defense against this Jaguars offense that just

1214
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: feels constipated, just not right, And.

1215
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 3: I just do not like this spot at all for

1216
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: this Jacks team.

1217
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 2: Where I thought this was gonna be a way more

1218
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: public side. Will see as the week goes along as here,

1219
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 2: but every prop I've talked to was just like me,

1220
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,919
Speaker 2: they're on this forty nine ers team. So this could

1221
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 2: be another chart first ware where the public is very

1222
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: square on this. This Jaguars side taking a public dog

1223
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 2: here and this forty nine ers team got away with

1224
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 2: one last week, but I look at this matchup that's

1225
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: very favorable to them and McCaffrey. I saw some crazy

1226
00:58:06,480 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: stat where he's like leading the league in touches and

1227
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: he could break if he keeps at this pace, or break.

1228
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 3: The NFL record for touches.

1229
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 2: But that's what they should be doing when you watch

1230
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 2: he is such a difference maker to that offense and

1231
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 2: everything should run through him. Just wear him out like

1232
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 2: he got him. We've seen h McCaffrey when he's healthy.

1233
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: He is the guy. So like, you can't predict injuries

1234
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: and they, to me, they just keep doing what they're doing.

1235
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:30,880
Speaker 2: Run their offense to McCaffrey, and this is a great

1236
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: matchup for McCaffrey as well. So this Jaguars team, they're

1237
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: two and one, but they don't feel two in one.

1238
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 2: They feel very fortunate to be two and one. EASi

1239
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 2: it could be three and oh as well though another

1240
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: team like that. But I think that's line mix toald Sence.

1241
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: I had a couple people ask off this one because

1242
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,919
Speaker 2: like why are the Jags a dollar kick, especially against

1243
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 2: Mac Jones?

1244
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: But I think I think that's a pretty line.

1245
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 2: Like again, I can't believe it came down for four

1246
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 2: and a half, but I if this is Mac Jones,

1247
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: I probably make it closer to a pick or maybe

1248
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 2: minus one forty nine ers. But with Mac Jones, like

1249
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: I said, uh, I mean pretty like I said, I

1250
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 2: have this closer to six. So I think if it

1251
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: is pretty he gets cleared, he's moving well in practice,

1252
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 2: Like I'm even checking all the b writer's feed seeing

1253
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 2: how he's moving, watching.

1254
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: Film him in practice this week.

1255
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 2: If he does practice, I need to see him pushing

1256
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: off that dough and moving on that foot.

1257
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 3: And you know, I talked to the.

1258
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: X fooble player at the time these type injuries. They

1259
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: say it doesn't matter because you're literally getting shot up

1260
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: on Sunday anyway, or he won't feel it anyway.

1261
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: But I'd like to see him sober in practice.

1262
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: Pushing off the I just want to see the pain

1263
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 2: threshold and how he can how he's maneuvering. Because we

1264
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 2: talk all the time. Perty's legs is a big weapon

1265
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah, really mobile and right in the pocket

1266
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: that way. So yeah, I know it's crazy we keep

1267
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 2: giving out favorites here. If this is another favorite I like,

1268
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: I like the talk this week.

1269
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: You just mentioned Trevor Lawrence. Let me give you some

1270
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: some context here. How bad you know, we don't we're

1271
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 1: not Trevor Lawrence fans for you.

1272
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 3: Stop.

1273
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: We're so off the train and that team feels like

1274
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: it's on an ife's edge of just descending into chaos

1275
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,840
Speaker 1: and frustration with a lot of young talent that hasn't

1276
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 1: had success and is going to get really frustrated with

1277
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: yet another new coach who can't seem to And this

1278
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: is not a Liam Cohne thing. This is just a

1279
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: nature of the situation they're in because of the talent

1280
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 1: they have. The Jags EPA per pass expected points added

1281
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: perpass is twenty third in the league. That's not very good.

1282
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: That's a reflection of the quarterback. This is while they're

1283
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 1: sack rate sack raate allowed second lowest in the league,

1284
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 1: pressure rate allowed lowest in the league. Blitz rate meaning

1285
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: how often Trevor Lawrence is being blitzed fifth lowest in

1286
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 1: the league.

1287
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: With no pressure they let's say what they played real quick.

1288
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 2: They played Carolina, Cincinnati and Houston and that's chat.

1289
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 3: Give it out those numbers.

1290
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 1: With no pressure. Trevor Lawrence cannot be effective in the past.

1291
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: What is he going to do against Robert Salo who,

1292
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,959
Speaker 1: like Simon just said it. Who By the way, during

1293
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: the offseason we kept saying he might be the most

1294
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: important addition to a coaching staff other than Ben Johnson.

1295
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: I'm dying to bet the Niners at minus three.

1296
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a good number.

1297
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: We're all over the favorites here, Baltimore A Kansas City,

1298
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 1: Kansas City's plus two and a half hard rock bet.

1299
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: We're being tempted. Oh my god, we are being tempted here,

1300
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: Simon context Again, the Lions moved from touchdown to eight

1301
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,439
Speaker 1: and a half. After Monday Night football, the Ravens state

1302
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 1: put at two and a half. Anyone who has done

1303
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: any betting during the Mahomes era knows his record is

1304
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: a dog. His record is a short favorite. Anyone who

1305
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: has done any betting during the past two years has

1306
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: watched since the Super Bowl, including the Super Bowl, this

1307
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: offense is struggling to find a playmaker? Is it Taekwon Thornton?

1308
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: Do we think the Ravens can game plan against him?

1309
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,320
Speaker 1: Are the Chiefs closer to the Browns who were ineffective?

1310
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: Are they closer to the lines and the Bills who

1311
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 1: couldn't be stopped? Like the Giants, game was a struggle

1312
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: for this Chiefs team. They like they needed every mistake

1313
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: the Giants made in order to to lock in and

1314
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: cover against that team. The Homes had to be otherworldly.

1315
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: What do we do here, Simon what do we do?

1316
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: What is sharp? What is square?

1317
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 3: You know what to do here?

1318
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: This is the squarest line of the week. Ravens two

1319
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 2: and a half. The book makers are they our friends?

1320
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 3: Job?

1321
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,160
Speaker 2: They are our best friends apparently because this looks like

1322
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: free money. I cannot believe this.

1323
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 3: Line is still holding at two and a half.

1324
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 2: So I personally I can't bet the Ravens side. I

1325
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 2: just cannot do it and come on the show and

1326
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 2: say that I'm a professional better.

1327
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:14,640
Speaker 3: It is so chalky, so trappy, stinks to high heavens.

1328
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 3: I cannot believe this line is at three and a half.

1329
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: At least three, just every book is sitting on two

1330
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: and a half and getting bounded. I was a sucker

1331
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 2: Sunday night as soon as I saw this number, just

1332
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 2: in case the Ravens are gonna win. I took the

1333
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,080
Speaker 2: two and a half and it's like, there's no way

1334
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: even the Ravens lose.

1335
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 3: There's no way.

1336
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: There's is still two and a half and here we

1337
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 2: are at two and a half still, So in the playoffs,

1338
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 2: I would be putting my life savings on the Chiefs

1339
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 2: here at a home dog in the playoffs of this

1340
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 2: number against Lamar team but Lamar in the regular season,

1341
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 2: this is technically a good spot, a good number. I

1342
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 2: can't believe it. I cannot believe this number is insane

1343
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: because the books you're telling you the Raves are losing

1344
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,240
Speaker 2: this game, like they're they're not even saying they're gonna cover.

1345
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 2: They're they're like, this is a crazy, crazy number to

1346
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 2: hang by the sportsbook. So I have to be on

1347
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,920
Speaker 2: the Chiefs. There's no doubt I'll be on the Chiefs.

1348
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be patient and just hope it gets met up.

1349
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: But just a bizarre number. And we talked Mahomes. Yes

1350
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: he's been in Cremo's career as a dog or you know,

1351
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: under three points. But I brought it up with that

1352
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: Eagles matchup in this ZAC scenario that the only time

1353
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 2: I ever been a dog at home was against the Bills,

1354
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 2: and I believe he had lost twenty four to twenty

1355
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 2: in that matchup and the Bills that covered, and we

1356
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: just saw against the Eagles. Eagles were a favorite. I

1357
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 2: think it was either one and a half or two.

1358
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: It closed out. The Chiefs is a dog. They lost

1359
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 2: by three. They almost backdwored it, but they just couldn't

1360
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: get it going that end zone pick totally killed Mahomes.

1361
01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 2: So this is the exact type of game Mahomes and

1362
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,720
Speaker 2: Cheat and Andy Reid have won the last nine ten years.

1363
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,720
Speaker 2: They just pull these teams down to the mud. They

1364
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 2: bring them on their shitty level and it works. But

1365
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: it's just I can't believe it, Like something must be

1366
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 2: wrong with this Ravens team for this line to be

1367
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: what it is, and something must be wrong with them

1368
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 2: more and I'm just not see it and I'm overlooking

1369
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 2: it and I can't believe it.

1370
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 3: I cannot believe this is two and a half.

1371
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: It is to be the most shocking of we talked

1372
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 2: about stinky, fishy lines this week. This is by far

1373
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: the fishiest line. So if this was late in the year,

1374
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: I would be all over the Ravens. I'm gonna trust

1375
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 2: the trends, trust the spot. This is very telling by

1376
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 2: the bookmakers about this line. So I'm gonna I'm gonna

1377
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 2: take the Chiefs, but my god, I feel sick to

1378
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: my stomach doing it. But I know to sell long

1379
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: another long term winner spot and gotta gotta trust. A

1380
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: model had this at a pick, so I know, I'm

1381
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 2: I'm I'm still high.

1382
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 3: My model is still.

1383
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: High on this Chiefs team. It's just it really is.

1384
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I could say whatever I want about my

1385
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: homes now, especially is it really is a SPACs thing though,

1386
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 2: Like my model, just I always look get favoritism to

1387
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 2: the Chiefs and SPACs defenses. The season goes along, the

1388
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: defense always gets better. So now we're in four weeks,

1389
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 2: I've seen every week since that Week one Chargers game,

1390
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 2: the defense has improved. Yeah, and that's my takeaway from it.

1391
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: Like you can say whatever you want. It's Russell Wilson.

1392
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: I thought they played pretty well defensive against him and

1393
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 2: that Giants team. So Chad Nailer, Our biggest question mark

1394
01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: is Mahomes his weapons, Gay Mick it work. This Ravens

1395
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: team just looks like they have may or jior issues

1396
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: on defense that they're working through right now.

1397
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 3: So I gotta can't believe this line.

1398
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: I cannot believe it gonna be the biggest need of

1399
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 2: the book. There's two games are gonna be huge needs

1400
01:06:23,360 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 2: for the books this week. This is one of them.

1401
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 2: They the ones coming up a little later on the show.

1402
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: Uh, one of these teams is going to be one

1403
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:30,960
Speaker 1: and three after this weekend.

1404
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 3: And that was that crazy.

1405
01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: It's insane because I got both of these teams in

1406
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: every Super Bowl matchup bet that I have.

1407
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's again, mur Septembers. You've got plenty

1408
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 2: of time. You're gonna be all right. But I'm with you,

1409
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 2: that is crazy.

1410
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 1: One of them is going to have to come around

1411
01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: at some point. I'm surprised that you went that hard

1412
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: on the Chiefs. I thought when you started talking, you

1413
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:54,120
Speaker 1: were gonna say, Ravens, I don't really have a game.

1414
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,080
Speaker 3: I know, how do you not take Ravens. That's why

1415
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 3: I can't believe this.

1416
01:06:57,320 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 1: Raven's coming off that loss, chief coming off their win.

1417
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, agree, It's like the Chiefs looked terrible beating

1418
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 1: the Giants. They like Patrick Mahomes was running for his

1419
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 1: life against the Giant.

1420
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: Your friend, though, just keep saying it to yourself. They

1421
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: they're not they're not here to give you money.

1422
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: You know who my bff is.

1423
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 3: It's true, it is you're my bff.

1424
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 1: You're my friend, Chicago, at Las Vegas. This one is

1425
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 1: bouncing all over the place, no matter where you know,

1426
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,880
Speaker 1: no matter where you live. The Raiders were favorites in

1427
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: some spots. Dogs and the others minus one at hard

1428
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 1: Rock Bet right now, you highlighted this immediately Sunday night

1429
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 1: when the Raiders one and a half point dogs, Like

1430
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: it's had a whole journey. At one point on Sunday

1431
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:47,080
Speaker 1: they were favorites, and so it keeps just bouncing back

1432
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth. I think a lot of

1433
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: it depends on, you know, the state you live in

1434
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: and the book you're using. But the Bears beating the

1435
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:57,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys and the way the Raiders lost to the Commanders

1436
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: is doing some bunkiness to this line.

1437
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I just the Raiders team.

1438
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: I knew coming to the season they're gonna have some

1439
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 2: weaknesses on the offensive line. I didn't know it was

1440
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 2: gonna be this bad. They just they can't get any

1441
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: sort of running game going. And we've seen g know

1442
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: is not the best when he's under pressure. So there

1443
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 2: are some if you're turning back to Bears, there are

1444
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:20,120
Speaker 2: some aspects you can like.

1445
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 3: Right, they've looked like the better team through three weeks.

1446
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:25,880
Speaker 2: Their defense is I know it's a weakness of that

1447
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,439
Speaker 2: Bears team, but at least they have some.

1448
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 3: Guys and get pressure.

1449
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 2: But when I look at the Bears secondary, they got

1450
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: away one against Dallas.

1451
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and.

1452
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 2: This matchup is not good for them against this Raiders

1453
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 2: team indoors on a fast field and.

1454
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 3: Caleb we saw what he can be when there's no pressure.

1455
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 2: Next Crosby is not anything close to what the Dallas

1456
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: Cowboys that I have on their front for He's gonna

1457
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 2: get his. There are guys beatable on this Bears front line,

1458
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: like they're their line is still working it out, figuring

1459
01:08:57,880 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: out right. They brought in a much free agism and

1460
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,200
Speaker 2: they're just putting all these guys together.

1461
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: It takes a little bit.

1462
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 2: So once again, like this Bears team, I kept saying,

1463
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: I really think they're gonna be much better later in

1464
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 2: this season. That was the perfect game against Dallas, and

1465
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 2: we talked that was a Bear spot. But between the

1466
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 2: ceed injuries, the turnovers they kept getting, like it all

1467
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 2: just really went.

1468
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 3: That Bears away.

1469
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: Cowboys right tackle left the game and it's done for

1470
01:09:19,240 --> 01:09:19,679
Speaker 1: two weeks.

1471
01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, so like it just kept.

1472
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 2: It was just so bad for that Cowboys team, and

1473
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:25,560
Speaker 2: that you'll see the line reflects the Cowboys out of

1474
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: a bunch of injuries. Their numbers moved a ton this week,

1475
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,720
Speaker 2: so that makes sense. But I just think it's it's

1476
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,599
Speaker 2: the hate's gone too far in this Vegas team, where

1477
01:09:34,439 --> 01:09:37,599
Speaker 2: the Bears might win this game, but this shouldn't be

1478
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 2: more than them being a dog, right, Like they should

1479
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:42,920
Speaker 2: be a one point one and a half two point

1480
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: dog in this game. There's a bunch of books out

1481
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,519
Speaker 2: there that still have them as a one and a

1482
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 2: half point favorite, so people.

1483
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,280
Speaker 3: Can easily see who my read here is.

1484
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 2: I'm just taking the value better number on a team

1485
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 2: that isn't as bad as they think they are, and

1486
01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:59,520
Speaker 2: Vegas at home in this matchup.

1487
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 3: To me, it's pretty favorable.

1488
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 2: Like that was not like a brutal spot last week,

1489
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:05,639
Speaker 2: but a little it was a little bit right then

1490
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:09,240
Speaker 2: go on the road. Yeah, sure, we against a backup. Uh,

1491
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 2: they just from the get go, they were just getting mulled.

1492
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: And we've seen it early early in the yearly in

1493
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,840
Speaker 2: the year here we overrate inflate too much on the

1494
01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 2: small sample side that we have of these these few games.

1495
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 3: So still hope for this.

1496
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 2: Raiders team, but they easily look like the fourth team

1497
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: in this division. And you know that this line here

1498
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 2: reflects that if they if they turned anything last week,

1499
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 2: they easily would have been a favorite in this match

1500
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 2: up against this Bears team, because, like I said, most

1501
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: models aren't gonna have this bearre team highly rated. Right

1502
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 2: as great as Klea Williams looked, there's still some things

1503
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 2: to take away from them that he struggled with. So,

1504
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: uh yeah, bet in the number. Don't know if I'll

1505
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:47,639
Speaker 2: force it into our contest. Will see as the week

1506
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 2: goes along here. But I am on the Raid the

1507
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 2: Raiders side of plus one and a half, but not

1508
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: not one of my five favorite bets yet this week. Uh.

1509
01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 1: You know, we got a lot of questions last week

1510
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: why didn't we talk more about the Raiders and the

1511
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 1: Commanders against Marcus Mariota, And like, we just didn't like

1512
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 1: the game, and we talked about it on Tuesday, never

1513
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: went back to it because we just couldn't figure out

1514
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: what did we like about the Commanders? What do we

1515
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: like about the Raiders? It just wasn't a game that

1516
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,839
Speaker 1: was you know, that we were tracking that was appealing

1517
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: to us. This week a little bit different. You just

1518
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,520
Speaker 1: mentioned Dallas Cowboys, a lot of injuries. Now seven point

1519
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:29,759
Speaker 1: home underdogs on Sunday Night Football against the Green Bay Packers.

1520
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,599
Speaker 1: Like man does the NFL know how to do drama.

1521
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: We thought the scriptwriters were crushing it with all those

1522
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: block kicks, and then we forgot that they were coming

1523
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: back with next week's episode and bringing Micah Parsons back

1524
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 1: to Big d. It's brilliant, brilliant programming. I don't like

1525
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: this game. Like Mike is back, CD's out, the right

1526
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 1: tackle is out. They can't stop anyone on defense. Matt

1527
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: eber Flues continues to be, you know, a recycled joke.

1528
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 1: What do we do with this game? I honest to god,

1529
01:12:05,080 --> 01:12:06,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do with this game.

1530
01:12:07,240 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm taking the seven, but I'm not putting a lot

1531
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,920
Speaker 2: on it because I think you're early readable this.

1532
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 3: This will just keep growing.

1533
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 2: This is going to be green Bay will be in

1534
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 2: every teaser, every parlay, just like they were last week.

1535
01:12:18,520 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 3: The public will not care that they lost.

1536
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 2: They will come right back on because Dallas has so

1537
01:12:23,240 --> 01:12:26,559
Speaker 2: many injuries and they looked horrible, and they were I

1538
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:29,599
Speaker 2: think the number two most bet money and ticket almost

1539
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 2: at every sportsbook last week.

1540
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 3: Everyone was all over Dallas last week.

1541
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,240
Speaker 2: Now they are totally off of them because of all

1542
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,920
Speaker 2: these injuries and green Bay's defense through three weeks they

1543
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 2: are another team. You're just like, man, that might be

1544
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:42,679
Speaker 2: a really, really good defense.

1545
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 3: And I know I don't want to take too much away.

1546
01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: From week going to the Lions, but since then, the

1547
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,360
Speaker 2: Lions have looked like a juggernaut, and that Week one

1548
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 2: they looked totally lost. And it's three weeks down. Green

1549
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 2: Bay's defense every week has just looked the part. They

1550
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: look incredible. So for me, it's all well again, playing

1551
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: the number overvalue team in green Bay, undervalue team in Dallas,

1552
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:09,720
Speaker 2: that people still think this Green Bay team is a

1553
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 2: top three team in the NFC. I mean they literally

1554
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:13,840
Speaker 2: had that number one. I think sportsbooks had them as

1555
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 2: a favorite last week to win the Super Bowl.

1556
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 3: It's just overaction.

1557
01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 2: This is a good green Bay team, but they have

1558
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 2: their own injuries, especially to their offensive line in the

1559
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 2: wide receiver position. And you know Tucker Kraft how important

1560
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,400
Speaker 2: he is. I thought you saw a little bit of

1561
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 2: Jordan Love. He was using the other tight ends like

1562
01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 2: it didn't really matter that much because.

1563
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 3: The scheme they were on there with the floor. But

1564
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:35,600
Speaker 3: tug Craft's a big deal to me.

1565
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 2: When you already have injuries to your wide receiver position,

1566
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 2: you're relying on Golden You're a rookie receiver that could

1567
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 2: have turned it up field right. His body carried him

1568
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:43,960
Speaker 2: out of balance where he could have easily had a

1569
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 2: touchdown if he just turned his body a little more

1570
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 2: to carry up field.

1571
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 3: So it's a lot to.

1572
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 2: Put on a Green Bay team that the hype was

1573
01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: so high week one, and I think it's still there

1574
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 2: in Dallas. I know they have all these injuries, and

1575
01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: I know their coach, Schettenheimer seems like might be an idiot,

1576
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,560
Speaker 2: but I can't get over that it's gonna be the

1577
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 2: Sunday night game and we might be getting seven and.

1578
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 3: A half on Dak.

1579
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 2: Like Dak, he just as a big dog like the Eagles.

1580
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 2: He just covers in those spots. I don't know how

1581
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,479
Speaker 2: he gets there, but he gets there. He always has

1582
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 2: in his career. So yeah, I could lose. It could

1583
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 2: be a bad one. I don't know if I'm gonna

1584
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 2: force it into our contest because I don't think they'll

1585
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:21,879
Speaker 2: give us a seven.

1586
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:22,080
Speaker 3: And a half.

1587
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 2: But at seven right now as it sits at hard Rock,

1588
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 2: I'm taking that number on Dallas.

1589
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 3: I just I can't believe how.

1590
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,720
Speaker 2: Much love the screen may team, which they are very good.

1591
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: They are much better team than this Dallas team. But

1592
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:37,759
Speaker 2: a seven point road favorite on Sunday night. I can't

1593
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 2: believe it. In Week four. It's like, I don't know.

1594
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,160
Speaker 2: It's just bizarre how much love and respect Ring Bay

1595
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 2: got so early in the year. Just maybe it's because

1596
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: people love them so much in the preseason, but they

1597
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: just they're crowding this team so quick that Jordan Love

1598
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,400
Speaker 2: hasn't done anything to earn that. This offense isn't consistent

1599
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 2: enough to earn that type of respect. So yeah, I

1600
01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 2: can't believe this number. But the pros are with the public.

1601
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 2: They've been hammering this side of Green Bay. It was

1602
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:07,639
Speaker 2: like Chad said, it was five and a half Sunday night.

1603
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 2: All the injuries, CD's most likely out, like you said,

1604
01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 2: didn't even know that they had injury to their right tackle.

1605
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:13,639
Speaker 3: That's a big deal.

1606
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,800
Speaker 2: So I'll play the number, I'll play the spot, but yeah,

1607
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 2: not going to be super confident on it. It's just

1608
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,880
Speaker 2: insane the amount of injuries Cowboys have had to start

1609
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 2: the year.

1610
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, Jordan Love, he's no Justin Herbert. Yeah, b

1611
01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:33,519
Speaker 1: boom boom, A little callback for you there, New York

1612
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: Jets at Miami. There's two Monday night football games. This

1613
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: is one of them. The Dolphins are two and a

1614
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: half point favorites. We discussed it on Sunday night. One

1615
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: of our YouTube viewers asked about this Jets the Jets

1616
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: in this game, we kind of both wanted to pass

1617
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:54,000
Speaker 1: like this didn't didn't compel me in any particular way.

1618
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 3: I'll say this though.

1619
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 2: I know I really respect the group that hit that

1620
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 2: jet side. Jets did touch three, and I can't believe it.

1621
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,960
Speaker 2: Like to me, it was either Miami or no bet

1622
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 2: at all in this matchup. Like we got away with

1623
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,280
Speaker 2: the one last week with that jet side, and I

1624
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: know we had sem to half a contest. I had

1625
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: a ton of six and a half personally, So it

1626
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, just total miracle.

1627
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: Uh pepa cover and went there.

1628
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 2: And looking at this matchup, it's really about their secondary.

1629
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: I just can't get over how bad the Jets secondary

1630
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 2: is their defense wise, and Miami, yeah, they've had some

1631
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,759
Speaker 2: injuries off its line, but overall wide receivers are healthy.

1632
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 2: And you saw against the Bills two can't put it together.

1633
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,679
Speaker 2: When it clicks right, it's all going right. He does

1634
01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 2: make it work two against.

1635
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: A bad team. Like.

1636
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 2: That's the other part of it too. A beats up

1637
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,720
Speaker 2: on bad teams, So I'll take it. It's it feels like

1638
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 2: another sucker number like that Ravens game, but this side,

1639
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:52,080
Speaker 2: I will take it. I don't think it's gonna be

1640
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: as heavily public as Miamis side. But yeah, again, another

1641
01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: game I don't feel great about. I bet it. It's

1642
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 2: my job to get out on A and on it.

1643
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:03,559
Speaker 2: I guess Miami. But my god, and thank god, there's

1644
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 2: two games on Monday night, so I don't have to

1645
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 2: watch either of them.

1646
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was going to say about Cincinnati Denver.

1647
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: Terrible dude. I fell asleep at halftime of last night's

1648
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: game only because I stayed up way too late at

1649
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 1: watching the Chiefs and the Giants, because I wanted to

1650
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: make sure I could send all my karma the Chiefs

1651
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: away so they could cover that five and a half

1652
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: because they were trying to give it away and let

1653
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: the Giants go down the field. Cincinnati Denver. Denver's a

1654
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 1: seven point favored in the second Monday night game. I

1655
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: might not make it to kickoff for this one. I'm

1656
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: going to say it, right now I know you're gonna

1657
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 1: laugh at me. I think the sharp side is taking

1658
01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: the seven in Cincinnati. They got blown out. There's never

1659
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: going to be more value. I think Denver is still

1660
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: being overvalued. The problem is Bonnicks looks great against bad

1661
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: defenses and looks pedestrian against good defenses. So he's playing

1662
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 1: a pretty bad defense. That means he could light him up.

1663
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to bet this one. Slight slight lean

1664
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sharper square.

1665
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 3: I agree. I guess.

1666
01:18:09,400 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: I guess the Bengals would be the sharp cycle. You said,

1667
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I'm on bone Knicks and I'm

1668
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: again I said I'm on chalk this week. This is

1669
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,439
Speaker 2: another side where you have to get right Boone Nicks.

1670
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 2: This is such a get right spot against just overall

1671
01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 2: a terrible, terrible Bengals team. And I know we took

1672
01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: a lot of heat from their fans being like, what

1673
01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: more do you want? They signed their receivers, they signed

1674
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,240
Speaker 2: their quarterback, they sign their d lineman. You guys are

1675
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 2: too hard on them, and it's what we talk about

1676
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,679
Speaker 2: the time. It's like a ten year old building the team.

1677
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 2: It's like a Madden team. They don't they don't address

1678
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: the weaknesses that are defense out of their offensive line,

1679
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 2: and now your quarterbacks out for the season, so.

1680
01:18:47,320 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 3: I'm not doing it.

1681
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:51,040
Speaker 2: I think Demery's defense great match for them against a

1682
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 2: horrible backup quarterback and Brownie that you know, he can't

1683
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 2: make big throws, but we see the timetime again, he

1684
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 2: can turn it over. He's just a guy that's loose

1685
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 2: with the ball, and that's where Denver wants to be.

1686
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 2: They want to be against a guy that's throwing the ball,

1687
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,719
Speaker 2: pushing downfield and on the flip side with bow Nicks.

1688
01:19:07,640 --> 01:19:09,439
Speaker 2: They don't really have a guy that can spy him

1689
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,320
Speaker 2: like the Chargers really dead. There's ways for him to

1690
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:13,240
Speaker 2: attack with his feet outside the pocket.

1691
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 3: That's why this number is what it is.

1692
01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,040
Speaker 2: They win, they cover that game last week, probably seven

1693
01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 2: and a half eight at this point, I mean, I'm

1694
01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 2: looking right now. There's one book at seven and a half,

1695
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 2: so I guess that's where it is heading. So I'll

1696
01:19:24,240 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 2: take Denver and minus seven. I can't believe on Denver

1697
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 2: and Miami Monday night chalk.

1698
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:31,000
Speaker 3: But it's terrible. It's yeah, it's just terrible.

1699
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 1: It's just speaking of speaking of chalk, I've made my

1700
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: Chad loves decision. Are you ready? Chad loves the Los

1701
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers minus six.

1702
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:43,759
Speaker 3: Couldn't get away from it.

1703
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: I couldn't get away from it because when we go

1704
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: through the games, like I told you, other than the Falcons,

1705
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: who I loved at plus three and now it's at

1706
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: two and a half. Yeah, the only teams I this

1707
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: week our favorites, all right, Simon, As we are talking

1708
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 1: about this game, the Chargers game that I love, it's

1709
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: been announced that Russell Wilson is being benched in favor

1710
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,800
Speaker 1: of Jackson Dark. The line is moving. You can't get

1711
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,680
Speaker 1: the six anymore. It's at six and a half. I

1712
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,240
Speaker 1: still love it at six and a half. I might

1713
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 1: like it even more. Tell me why I'm being so

1714
01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 1: sharp right now?

1715
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, we both love it, and it's it's really again.

1716
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:25,839
Speaker 2: It's gonna come back to that defense. It's a great defense.

1717
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:28,160
Speaker 2: Now going to be again to rookie making us first start.

1718
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: And me and Chad have seen this before, right, we've

1719
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 2: we've been burned by the rookie making us first start

1720
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:35,640
Speaker 2: because there's no tape on them, all the unknowns. But

1721
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 2: when you have a defense that makes you bend to

1722
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,479
Speaker 2: their identity like the Chargers defense does. I still feel

1723
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 2: confident and I'll think it's a good number. It's still're

1724
01:20:43,920 --> 01:20:46,719
Speaker 2: still getting under seven. Still trust the number, and yeah,

1725
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 2: obviously we both which more confident at the six.

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Speaker 3: Six and a half's not gonna scare me off.

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Speaker 2: As long as you can shop around people get under

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Speaker 2: that seven, which is such a key number.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a good spot, good number for

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Speaker 3: the Chargers team and.

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01:20:57,640 --> 01:21:00,400
Speaker 2: Man Jackson Dark talk about a bad time pick your

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Speaker 2: first star.

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Speaker 1: This is brutal, kind of crazy that Brian Dayball would

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01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,720
Speaker 1: tell the world on Tuesday instead of waiting a little

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Speaker 1: bit longer. So now the Chargers and Jim Harbaugh can

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Speaker 1: prep for that. But that goes kind of in keeping

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Speaker 1: with how incompetent the Giants team has been throughout the

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Speaker 1: Joe Shine Brian Dayball tenure. All Right, the last thing

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Speaker 1: I want to do, Chad loves the Chargers. The last

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Speaker 1: thing I want to do, we'd be promising in for

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: a few weeks. Contest winners. You guys have been so

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01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,080
Speaker 1: kind and in helping us relaunch Sharper Square or launch

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01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: Sharper Square new network with the volume who we love.

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01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 1: It's hard to relaunch an audio show and get it

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01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: to exist in the rankings and consistently be in the

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01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: rankings the way we have been. It's all thanks to you,

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01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: guys and continuing to rate and review leave us five stars,

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01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:49,000
Speaker 1: saying whatever you want. We want to reward some people.

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01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: We have gotten some excellent feedback and some five star

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 1: reviews on Apple Podcasts. There will be many winners. Our

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01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: first batch of winners Team Mike Mac, Jimmy half Greek,

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Speaker 1: your compadre. I love that one. You're going to email

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Speaker 1: Sharper Square at gmail dot com. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: you a prize. But let me read the winning the

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Speaker 1: winning review from Tea Mike Mac. For some reason, I've

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01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: enjoyed gambling on football for thirty years, even though I

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01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 1: lost money. Since I started listening to Chad and Simon,

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Speaker 1: I am up around seven thousand dollars. You need thick skin, though.

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01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,599
Speaker 1: Best advice Simon gave a while back is that when

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Speaker 1: you're betting a terrible dog, you have permission not to

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01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,080
Speaker 1: watch it. There have been so many games that were

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01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: so hard to watch, but we pulled it out in

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01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 1: the end. Thank you for your five star review, Team,

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Speaker 1: Mike Mack and everybody else who has done it. Team Mike,

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01:22:49,560 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: you're going to be getting some swag. Jimmy Half Greek,

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Speaker 1: your capadre, You're all getting some swag. Thank you everybody

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: who's been listening and leaving the reviews and rating and

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01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: keep doing it. We're going to steep giving out some

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Speaker 1: more stuff. Let me run down the games that we're

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Speaker 1: gonna focus on on Thursday. We'll probably probably talk a

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01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: little bit about the Cards and hopefully they've gotten to

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01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 1: be dogs at that point. Chargers minus six, it's moving, uh,

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01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: Simon says. Charge Chargers minus six is uh. Chad loves

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01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: Simon says, is the Bucks at plus three and a half,

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01:23:25,439 --> 01:23:28,679
Speaker 1: Lions minus eight and a half. We're hoping it gets

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01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:32,519
Speaker 1: down to eight. Buffalo minus sixteen and a half. What

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01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 1: happened to us? Rams minus three is what we're hoping

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01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:42,600
Speaker 1: to get. It's a three and a half, Niners minus three,

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01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:47,080
Speaker 1: Jesus Simon, Chiefs plus two and a half. Thank god,

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01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: we're getting back to who we are and the Raiders

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01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 1: minus one. We're hoping that flips back. A lot to

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01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:59,000
Speaker 1: talk about on Thursday. Brother, It's a lot of freaking favorites.

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Speaker 1: This has been Sharper Square part of the Volume podcast network.

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Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday with the games we

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Speaker 1: are zeroing in on, Plus Our Survivor, Pick Our Head

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Speaker 1: to Head, Battle, brass Ball, so much more. Watch or

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Speaker 1: listen on YouTube ait Sharper Square. Like the video, subscribe

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