1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: From Mediators World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Cal's weekend review, presented by Steel. Steel products are available 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: only at authorized dealers. For more, go to Steel Dealers 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's your host, Ryan cal Callahan. A 5 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: leopard may not be able to change its spots, but 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: a group of animal rights activists believes that all predators 7 00:00:27,880 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: can change what they eat. Herbivorized predators is exactly what 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: it sounds like. This nonprofit group based in England believes 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: that the next frontier of evolution will see predators like tigers, wolves, 10 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: and bears pass on the veal and say yes to 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: the salad. The organization is led by an animal rights activist, 12 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: a transhumanist, and something called a futurist, which sounds like 13 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: the beginning of a bad joke, which I guess is 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: what this is. A futurist, according to the Old Dictionary, 15 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: is a person who studies the future and makes predictions 16 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: about it based on current trends. This particular futurist is 17 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: named Adam James Davis, and if this is the caliber 18 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: of all of his predictions, I'm thinking he should get 19 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 1: a refund from Future As School, and probably not visit Texas. 20 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 1: Davis and his colleagues believe carnivores should be converted into 21 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: vegans because quote, predation causes serious harms to sentient beings, 22 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: including untimely death and pain suffering, physical and mental. They 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: believe we have a duty to end pain and suffering, 24 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: So instead of volunteering at a local food bank or 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: visiting their grandparents, they've decided to pick lower hanging fruit. 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: Their website, which I encourage you to check out at 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: Herbivorized Predators dot org, is heavy on philosophy and light 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: on science. They point to species like pandas to argue 29 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: that their solution is possible. Quote. Given that this change 30 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: has occurred without human agency, it likely will not be 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: too difficult to modify via selective breeding and genetic engineering, 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: all carnivorous species to evolve herbivorous diets because that's what 33 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: the animals want. Genetic engineering to those who were he's 34 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: such a massive ecological change would cause more suffering than 35 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: it prevents. They argue that herbivorizing carnivores will happen in 36 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: a controlled manner, slowly over many years. Population controls like immunocontraception, 37 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: can make sure all these new herbivores don't decimate plant life, 38 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: so we really don't have anything to worry about. Isn't 39 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: that nice. It's a brave new world out there. Folks. 40 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: Keep tuning in to Cal's Week in Review and I'll 41 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: make sure you don't get left behind. This week We've 42 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: got the public land's desk, legislative roundup, cattle calls, and 43 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: so much more. But first I'm going to tell you 44 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: about my week, and oh my goodness, where to start. 45 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 1: HA went down to Cibolo Creek Ranch on the Texas 46 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: Mexico border, which is south of Murfa, Texas. Just to 47 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: lay this out, playing and simple. This is a spoiled 48 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: kid adventure. My longtime friend Terry Huen, who is on 49 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: his second career consulting with different operations setting up instructional 50 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 1: and recreational shooting courses for pistols, car beans, and long range. 51 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: This is after his first career, which lasted thirty years 52 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: in the Navy, where he, among lots of other jobs, 53 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: instructed at the sniper school. Anyway, he invited me down. 54 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: He found the ranch through his new job and set 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: it up so I could come down and bring a 56 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: friend Kimmy Werner. Now, I selected Kimmy because she is 57 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: a first time rifle hunter and just so curious as 58 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: to set up a brand new beginner with very very 59 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: limited experience with somebody who has an unbelievable, I would say, 60 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: unattainable amount of experience for somebody who doesn't get paid 61 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: to shoot. Anyway, we did a couple of days of shooting, 62 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: punching paper, hitting steel, shooting box at various angles and distances. 63 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: Then we went after oddad or barbary sheep, which is 64 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: a really cool, absolutely non native animal to North America 65 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: and places absolutely crawling with them. In regards to big game, 66 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: this area of Texas was home to desert bighorn sheep, halina, 67 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: the Carmen mountain, white tail, pronghorn antelope, bison, elk, and 68 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: Coyle's deer. All this odd ad country is desert cheap country, 69 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: but I saw no desert cheep. Did see havelina whitetail, 70 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: and a private bison herd that was in very close 71 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: proximity to three black willde beast, Yes, willde beast, which, 72 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: in case you are wondering, are not native to this 73 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: continent either. Suffice it to say Texas is and will 74 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: remain a very different place. So much to tell you about, 75 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: but I would really like to fulfill a dream of 76 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,239 Speaker 1: mine and get Havelina with my bow, so I must 77 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: move on. You will be able to see this adventure 78 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: in a future episode of callen Field only a the 79 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Meat Eater YouTube channel. New episodes coming out very soon. 80 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 1: If you want to catch up on this more. I'll 81 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: see you all very shortly in Missoula, Montana. Saint Patrick's 82 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: Day weekend for the backcountry hunters and anglers rendezvous. Also 83 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: shoot your rifles. Shoot your hunting rifles. Practice, practice, practice. 84 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: It is amazing what some instruction and real range can 85 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: do to get you back in the groove of shooting. 86 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: It will pay off soon, only a few short months 87 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: until we're back into the big game season. Speaking of 88 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: tag application season has already begun. I went through TSA 89 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: tags again this year, hoping some pro level planning can 90 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: help me draw a tag to adventure someplace new. You're 91 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: not in Kansas anymore, You're on Pandora. Moving on to 92 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: the cattle desk. The US for a Service in the 93 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,080 Speaker 1: USDA have completed a campaign to gun down about one 94 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty wild cattle and the Helan National Forest 95 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: sharpshooters flew in helicopters through the rugged mountainous train to 96 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: find and eradicate the herds that the FEDS say pose 97 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: a danger to both humans and the environment. The feral 98 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 1: cattle and the Helo Wilderness have been aggressive towards wilderness visitors. 99 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: Grays year round and trample stream banks and springs, causing 100 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: erosion and sedimentation, said HeLa National Forest Supervisor Camille House. 101 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: This action will help restore the wilderness character of the 102 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: Helo Wilderness enjoyed by visitors from across the country. Not 103 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: everyone is happy about the operation. New Mexico Governor Michelle 104 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: Leuhan Grisham issued a statement criticizing the plan and accusing 105 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: the Forest Service of refusing to engage with stakeholders. Ranchers 106 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: are also upset. I saw initial reports that they were 107 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: concerned about some of their own cattle being gunned down. 108 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: They also said in court documents that the Service should 109 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: have tried harder to round up the cattle instead of 110 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: shooting them and leaving them to waste. It's also worth 111 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: noting that if the Service is concerned about the safety 112 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: of visitors to the HeLa, it's maybe not a great 113 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: idea to leave over one hundred carcasses on the landscape. 114 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: Dexter D from San Diego wrote in to ask Cal 115 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: at the Meat Eater dot Com to wonder why the 116 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: Forest Service didn't offer a controlled hunt to deal with 117 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: the cattle problem. The Forest Service said that only the 118 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: New Mexico Department of Game and Fish has the authority 119 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: to designate a hunt, which, if you ask me, sort 120 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: of sidesteps the question. But they also pointed out that 121 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: cows fall into kind of a Noman's land. They aren't game, 122 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: non game, furbearer, or unprotected animal. So even if New 123 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: Mexico Game and Fish wanted to call a hunt, the 124 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: legal and logistical challenge is probably more trouble than it's worth. 125 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: The cattle and the heila are the descendants of cows 126 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: that legally graze the area in the nineteen seventies before 127 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: the owner went out of business. Federal officials have made 128 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: several attempts over the last couple of decades to remove 129 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: the animals, including a similar shooting operation in twenty twenty 130 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: two that took out sixty five cows in two days. 131 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, on the Forest Service collected about 132 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: fifty cattle from the Heilo Wilderness and sold them at 133 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: a livestock auction. It sounds like based on this previous experience, 134 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: they decided that shooting the animals was quicker, easier, and 135 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: cheaper than rounding them up. In their responses to public comments, 136 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: they said it would be quote daunting to remove all 137 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: that meat in a safe and responsible manner. They argued 138 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: that since the cows are not vaccinated, the Forest Service 139 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: would be unable to confirm that they are safe to eat, 140 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: which is kind of a weird place to leave that one. 141 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 1: Fortunately for everybody, there is a new Mexico Cattle episode 142 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: of callen Field coming soon to the Meat Eater YouTube channel, 143 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: and I'm just going to leave you with this, Aerial 144 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: gunning is the way to go. We're not talking about big, 145 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: beautiful beef. We're talking about wild as rank cattle. They 146 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: do not know what hurting is. I'm sure we could 147 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: interview a few more cowboys down there in the Heila 148 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: that may have tried to round these cattle up. Big 149 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: issue here is that wild cattle are not just a 150 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: feral animal in New Mexico by default, an unbranded cattle 151 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: belongs to the state right, which does make sense when 152 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: you think about the way grazing allotments work. Okay, you 153 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: pay a lease to graze the state's grass on state ground, right, 154 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 1: national forest, same deal, BLM, same deal. So when that 155 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: unbranded feral cattle comes in, typically under great protest and dress, 156 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: the state or that entity would like to get some 157 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: of that free grazing that it did cash back. Okay, 158 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: so it goes to the state Livestock auction after being 159 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: inspected by the brand inspector. Does it sound like a 160 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: big wayte to meat? Hell, yes it does, but I 161 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: get it. Moving on to the legislative desk, Pennsylvania State 162 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: Senator Daniel Laughlin has reintroduced his Sunday Hunting bill from 163 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: last year. This bill would remove all prohibitions on Sunday 164 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: hunting and trapping throughout the entire state. In twenty twenty, 165 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: to Game Commission began approving three Sundays each year for hunting, 166 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: which have been successful and safe. This bill would open 167 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: all Sundays to the same activities Wisconsin nights. We'll have 168 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: a chance this April to tell the DNR what they 169 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: think about spear fishing for northern pike. Advocates for dark 170 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: house pike spearing, which include Meat Eater contributor Pat Durkin, 171 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: point out that many neighboring states allow the activity and 172 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: that spear fishing for sturgeon is already legal. They want 173 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: Wisconsin to join Minnesota, Michigan, six other states in allowing 174 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: this fun and effective way to harvest pike. Residents will 175 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: have a chance to weigh in at this year's Wisconsin 176 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: Conservation Congress Annual Spring Hearing. An online questionnaire will be 177 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: available from April tenth at noon through April thirteenth at noon. 178 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,559 Speaker 1: There are dozens of other policy proposals on the questionnaire, 179 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: so if you live in Wisconsin check it out. You 180 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: can google Wisconsin Conservation Congress or visit the meat eater 181 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: dot com forward slash Cow lots of good info. Also 182 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, Senate Bill thirty would lift the requirement that 183 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: the DNR impose a baiting ban when captive servants test 184 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: positive for CWD. Current law requires the DNR to ban 185 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: baiting for three years whenever a test comes back positive 186 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: in any particular county. This bill would impose this requirement 187 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: when a free ranging deer test positive, but not when 188 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: a captive deer test positive. In Ohio, the State Wildlife 189 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: Council is considering whether or not to reopen the grouse 190 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: hunting season this year. Grouse are listed as a species 191 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: of concern in Ohio, just one step below threatened, but 192 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: in previous years the Council has allowed hunters a daily 193 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: bag limit of one, with a statewide season starting the 194 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: second Saturday in October and running through the Sunday after 195 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving on public land and through January one on private land. 196 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: This year, the Columbus Dispatch reports that some commissioners want 197 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 1: to close grouse hunting indefinitely until they can get to 198 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: the bottom of the bird's population decline. If you'd like 199 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: to weigh in on this policy, get in touch with 200 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: the Ohio Wildlife Council. Down in Florida, state wildlife managers 201 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: are again considering whether or not to call a black 202 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: bear hunt. Florida's bear population isn't exceptionally large, but biologists 203 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: say that about ten percent of the thirty two hundred 204 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: bears in Florida can be killed each year, but the 205 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is still a little gun 206 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: shy about calling a hunt after what happened in twenty fifteen. 207 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,840 Speaker 1: That was the first bear hunt in Florida in twenty 208 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: one years, and hunters harvested two hundred ninety five bears 209 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: in just two days. They didn't exceed their statewide quota, 210 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 1: but officials ended the hunt early after regional quotas were 211 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: exceeded and hunters were harvesting at a faster rate than 212 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: they expected. Animal rights activists got involved, and the state 213 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: hasn't had a bear hunt since. If you want to 214 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: get involved, get in touch with the Florida Fish and 215 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: Wildlife Conservation Commission. Up in Maine, Representative Lynn Williams has 216 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: introduced a bill that would significantly restrict kyote hunting. Thanks 217 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: to Justin Spicer for sending this one in LD eight 218 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: one four would cut the current year round daytime hunting 219 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: season to just six months between October and March. The 220 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: current nighttime kyote hunting season runs from December sixteenth Dougust 221 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: thirty first, but this bill would shorten it by five 222 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: months and end it in March. Folks, I gotta say 223 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: it again, if your legislature is in session, if your 224 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Fishing Game Commission is making rules right now, you have 225 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: got to be involved because I guarantee you, even though 226 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: it's not here on the weekend review, there is something 227 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: in your state that will affect you going on right now. 228 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: Get involved, be a part of the process, or don't 229 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: complain when some rule comes out or new law that 230 00:13:54,440 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: you don't like. Moving on to the dog desk, Idaho 231 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: Fishing Game reported last week that conservation officers had killed 232 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: two pet dogs that were harassing and killing elk. A 233 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: conservation officer arrived on the scene in the Chubbuck area 234 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: to find that the dogs had killed a calf elk 235 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: and were attacking a second calf elk, which later died 236 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: from its injuries. The department said there was quote no 237 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: feasible way to stop this attack other than killing the dogs, 238 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: so the officers shot both of them. A spokesperson for 239 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: the department called it an extremely unfortunate situation. They really 240 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: wish there was a different outcome here. Another dog related news, 241 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: a town in Kansas has suspended its kyote trapping program 242 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 1: after two pet dogs were caught in and injured in 243 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: offset jaw traps. Authorities in the town of Mission Hill, Kansas, 244 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: had received reports from residents about kyotes and residential neighborhoods, 245 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: so they hired a trapper to catch them. The city 246 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: sent notices to their surrounding homes, and they also put 247 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: up street signs that read warning nuisance animal trapping in progress, 248 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: but Elizabeth Kirsch told local media that those signs weren't 249 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: clear enough. She was walking her dogs, Oreo and Fed 250 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: in a local park when Oreo got caught in one 251 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: of the traps. None of the news reports I've read 252 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: said whether Oreo was on a leash, though I doubt 253 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: the city would have put traps on park pathways anyway. 254 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: Kurse dropped Fred's leash when she heard Oreo howling, and 255 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: Fred didn't waste much time getting caught himself. Kersh wasn't 256 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: able to open either trap, and the dogs had to 257 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: wait about twenty minutes for the police to show up. 258 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: By that time, they'd lost multiple teeth trying to chew 259 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: their way out, and Kersh says her vet bill is 260 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: approaching twenty thousand dollars. The city has removed all kyote 261 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,240 Speaker 1: traps from the park and says it's reviewing its trapping program. 262 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: It says it started the program because the kyote killed 263 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: the dog of another resident and officials tried their best 264 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: to warn locals about the presence of the traps. Kurse 265 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: says the city should pay for VET bills. So far, 266 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: no word on that. Moving on to the public land Desk. 267 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Back in episode one sixty two, we covered how the 268 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: Pine Log Wildlife Management Area in Georgia was being put 269 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: up for sale. This fourteen thousand acre property north of 270 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: Atlanta has been used by outdoor enthusiasts for many years 271 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: to hunt, fish, camp, hike, and horseback ride. But the 272 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: company that owns the property wants to sell it, and 273 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: we put out a call to action for local residents 274 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: to speak up. I have good news and bad news 275 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: to report. The good news is that, according to the 276 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta Journal Constitution, the family that owns the property is 277 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: talking to the state about how they can preserve it 278 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: as a wildlife management area. The bad news is that 279 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: the state may not be able to afford it. A 280 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: warrior for the Neely family told the Journal Constitution that 281 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: if the Georgia dn R could offer four hundred million, 282 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: they would sell it tomorrow. Unfortunately, there is at a 283 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: state wildlife agency in the country that has that kind 284 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: of free cash. Talks are ongoing, and Georgia residents are 285 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: hoping they can come to some kind of agreement because 286 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: no one wants the alternative. The backup development plan would 287 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: use the property to build sixteen thousand, five hundred residential units, 288 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: sixteen and a half million square feet of industrial space, 289 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: eight hundred acres of commercial development, and nearly four thousand 290 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: acres for mining and debris recycling. About five thousand acres 291 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: would be preserved as quote green space, but it's unclear 292 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: what kind of outdoor recreation would be allowed, if any. 293 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: Some of that green space would almost certainly be nothing 294 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 1: more than neighborhood parks and gated communities. There's a petition 295 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: at change dot org to save the pine Log WMA, 296 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: which you should sign if you haven't already. Also continue 297 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: to tell the Georgia DNR and your Georgia state legislators 298 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: that you want this property preserved. If they're in talks 299 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: with the Neely family, there's still a chance. Your Georgia 300 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 1: Wildlife officials need to know you have their back and 301 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: you want them to stay the course. There's still hope 302 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: for pine Log, but I'm sorry that I can't say 303 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: the same for Fairfield Lake State Park. In Texas. Located 304 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: ninety six miles south of Dallas, This park closed permanently 305 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: at the end of last month because it's landlords sold 306 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: the land to a developer. That's bad enough, but a 307 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,640 Speaker 1: new report from the Dallas Morning News indicates that, despite 308 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: public statements to the contrary, Texas Parks and Wildlife did 309 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: not seriously attempt to save him. The Dallas Morning News 310 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: obtained text messages between Texas Parks and Wildlife Commissioner Arch 311 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: Applin and the parks new owner Sean Todd. Todd told 312 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: Applin that he'd be willing to sell the park back 313 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: to the state, minus what he calls a tiny carb 314 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: out in the northern peninsula of the park, but Applin 315 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: said that he spoke with Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick, 316 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: who said he only had the authority to purchase the 317 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: entire park, not just a part of it. It seems 318 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: like they'd be able to work out a compromise, but 319 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: the deal fell through. Even after Todd press for an agreement, 320 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: Applin reiterated that he wasn't willing to consider the small 321 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: carve out on the peninsula. There's more to this story, 322 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: and you should check out the Dallas Morning News article 323 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: for yourself. Whatever happened during these negotiations, one thing is clear. 324 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 1: Texas residents who don't have much public land as it 325 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: is just lost access to a one thousand, eight hundred 326 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: and twenty one acre park along with a twenty four 327 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: hundred acre lake. If I lived in the lone Star state, 328 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: I'd surely be writing my representatives make this issue front 329 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: and center so it doesn't happen again at the very least. 330 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Moving on to the mail bag listener Ben Funk rode 331 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: in to ask me about solar farms. I've noticed in 332 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: the last year or so, solar farms are all of 333 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: the sudden, popping up everywhere, seemingly overnight. He sent me 334 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: a few photos he's taken from his airplane, which shows 335 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: what it looked like hundreds of acres of solar arrays. 336 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: Why are our conservation organizations silent on this? I'm not 337 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: sure how anyone can witness this and defend it as 338 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: better for the environment. It's simply maddening, and it feels 339 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: like there isn't a damn thing I or anyone can 340 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 1: do about it. I definitely see your point. Clean energy 341 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: is good from a carbon emission standpoint, but solar and 342 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: wind require lots of acreage, and we're only going to 343 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: be seeing more of it in the coming years. We 344 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: covered an episode one ninety two how the Bureau of 345 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 1: Land Management is developing a plan to jump start more 346 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: solar energy development on western public land. The Biden administration 347 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: is very friendly to alternative energies and there are plenty 348 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: of subsidies and government assistances available. Several of you also 349 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: sent me information about the Lava Ridge wind project in 350 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,919 Speaker 1: southern Idaho. If it moves forward, this would be the 351 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 1: largest wind turbine farm in the United States, with over 352 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: four hundred units, but locals have launched a campaign against 353 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 1: it because it would be in view of the Minnedoka 354 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: National Historic Site. They argue that building four hundred massive 355 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: windmills in the rugged high desert of Idaho would ruin 356 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: the visitor experience. The BLM extended its comment period until 357 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: April twenty, so you still have time to tell the 358 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: agency what you think. Visit the meat eater dot com 359 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: forward slashcal for a link to the comment page, or 360 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: you can check out the Minnedoka dot org forward slash 361 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: Lava Ridge for more information. These are only two examples 362 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,360 Speaker 1: of debates that are happening all across the country. How 363 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: can we address carbon emissions using clean energy sources while 364 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: maintaining our wild landscapes and healthy ecosystems. One good example 365 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 1: of some progressive work on behalf of nature and energy coexisting, 366 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: The Nature Conservancy across Wyoming and the West is mapping 367 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: out the best places to put wind and solar farms. 368 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: They've identified areas that have already been disturbed with oil 369 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: and gas development and areas that will pose the least 370 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: risk to wildlife because most solar farms are fenced off. 371 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: For example, they want to be careful that no one 372 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: builds a farm along a migration corridor. Ideally, we can 373 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: take advantage of renewable energy without destroying the habitat and 374 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: animals we're trying to save from climate change. Maybe that 375 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: sounds like trying to have our cake and eat it two, 376 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 1: but at the risk of mixing food metaphors, I think 377 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: it's more like chewing gum while walking. Takes a little 378 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: extra coordination, but it's doable. Thanks for sending those ones in, 379 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: and remember to write in to ask al. That's ask 380 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: how at the meat eater dot com. Let me know 381 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 1: what's going on in your neck of the woods. Also, 382 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: if you're looking for a clean, quiet, throw underneath the seat, 383 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: get you out of a jam chainsaw, check out www 384 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: dot steel Dealers dot com. Find a local, knowledgeable steel 385 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: dealer near you. They're gonna get you set up with 386 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: what you need and they won't try to send you 387 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: home with what you don't. Thanks again and I'll talk 388 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: to you next week.