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Speaker 1: to another edition of Sminty Fiction, which just a once

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Speaker 1: Christina puts amazing sound effects in there, so huge shout

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Speaker 1: in trouble please, that's fine, we can't afford it. We

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Speaker 1: we're moving into Halloween time. But that being said, this

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Speaker 1: is the final chapter of Terminus. This is part two

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Speaker 1: of Terminus, which is also called Big Things Start Small,

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Speaker 1: And this is the chapter you get where the title

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 1: My ex boyfriend used to hate that. He was like,

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Speaker 1: opinions that you did. Really very unhappy. I can go yes.

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Speaker 1: But we'll move into Part three soon after, and Part

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Speaker 1: end of the terminus. Sokka. This is something I wrote

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Speaker 1: I said, I say this and everyone, I swear to god,

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Speaker 1: But there is literally a place called like Firefly Winery

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Speaker 3: Which I'm mistaken to be like a mixed drink fire vodka,

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Speaker 1: And I just gave it to in front of the

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Speaker 2: She took it like a She was like, do you

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 1: This is when we were doing our Last of Us

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Speaker 1: reading this, like what predictions? She just knew predictions or

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Speaker 4: From me, if I could go back, i'd fight harder.

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Speaker 1: Will I ever meet her? I want to meet her

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Speaker 1: After considering the terms, Madison agreed. Deal. Do you think

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Speaker 1: Madison said, wistfully. I know. So. They lulled into silence, Tilda,

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Speaker 1: her hands, looking at the labels, off white with black ink,

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Speaker 1: the mountains and bobbles of light fireflies. Is this wine,

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00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Madison asked in a hushed tone, Yes, Tilda answered equally soft.

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00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: Can we drink it? He asked eagerly. No, I don't

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Speaker 1: think so. Why not want to make us feel better?

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00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 1: Tilda smirked, No, or dehydrated, and this is really old.

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00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: It would probably make us feel much worse. Madison frowned,

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00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 1: sliding the bottle of wine he'd been eyeing back into place.

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00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: A loud thump reverberated from above them. They both froze. Scout,

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00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: Madison asked. Untila shook her head silently, she didn't know

437
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: another sound, creaking, Gesturing for Madison to be quiet, she

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00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 1: crept toward the stairs. Knowing there was no way she

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00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: could ascend them without making creaking sounds of her own.

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00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: She weighed their options. They could wait down here, hiding

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00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,479
Speaker 1: and hoping that it was just an old creaking house,

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00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: or scout, and if it wasn't that whoever was here

443
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: would not find them. But this option seemed highly optimistic,

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00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: with Scout resting upstairs. Yes, if this was people making

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00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: these noises, they come looking for them. Tilda spared to

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00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: glance from Madison, pulling the rifle from where it was

447
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: slung across her shoulder and adjusting it in her grip.

448
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: Her hands were shaking. What was she becoming? Were events

449
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: like these going to become a regular thing? How many

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00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: tally marks was she going to earn? How many bodies

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00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: would she leave behind? If her mother knew, what would

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00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: she think? Could she still love Tilda the murderer? Would

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00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: she still welcome her home with open arms? Tilda crept

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00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: up the stairs, pausing at each one, listening, wincing with

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00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: each creek. The gun pointed out in front of her

456
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: much too long, she could hear something from upstairs, something

457
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 1: so soft it could be a figment of an anxious imagination.

458
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: All the stretching and warping of wood and pipes. At

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00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: the top of the stairs, Tilda took a deep breath

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00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: that somehow felt like more oxygen than she was used

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00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: to and made her light headed. She blinked back stars.

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00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 1: Steadying herself, she rounded the corner, her weapon aimed. She

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00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: looked left, pivoted, squared her shoulders right. Nothing. She edged

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00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: along the back side of the wall, her heart and

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00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: her throat. The floor above her creaked, and she caught

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00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: someone whispering. Tilda's finger instinctively tightened on the trigger. Hello,

467
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: someone called, a male voice from the second story. Someone there.

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00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: Tilda trained her gun on the foot of the stairs footsteps,

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00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: patting down the right staircase. Her nostrils flared, her eyes narrowed.

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00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: Everything else fell away, but the foot of the stairs.

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00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: Is that a horse? A female voice quiet? From above?

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00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 1: A man appeared at the foot of the stairs, tall

473
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: stained khakis and orange bubble jacket and blue beanie pulled

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00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: tight around his head, big brown boots. His back was

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00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 1: to Tilda, surveying the open room. She had the perfect shot.

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00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Her face broke out in a cold sweat, her breath quickened,

477
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: her finger twitched over the trigger, but she couldn't pull it.

478
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: She couldn't. Her aim jerked, the butt of the gun

479
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: jammed painfully against her shoulders. The man turned slowly around,

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00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: coming to face her and Madison. He shouted at the

481
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 1: sight of the gun aimed at him, almost dropping his

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00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 1: electric torch. He stumbled back several steps, almost falling, but

483
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: managed to regain his footing wide eyes with specs of

484
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: blue light bright, never leaving Tilda. What the what is it?

485
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: What do you see? A woman shouted frantically from the

486
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: second story. The man's mouth worked silently, Tilda using her

487
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: peripheral vision to seek out Scout. His eyes darted to

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: the second story. Shaking his head fiercely. He held his

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00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: hands up slowly, Tilda following his every move with her gun.

490
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,400
Speaker 1: We don't mean you any harm, he said, his voice steady,

491
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: a deep, oddly comforting rumble, but Tilda did not waver.

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00:31:56,040 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: Madison huddled behind her, trembling. No stay up there, the

493
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: man called, his gaze, sliding upstairs and then back down

494
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: to focus on Tilda. Scout wandered into the front room

495
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: behind him. Look, we didn't know anyone else was here.

496
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: We can leave, we can, he broke off, catching sight

497
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: of Madison his brown furring, Tilda steadied her aim, preparing

498
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: to pull the trigger once again. Wait are you Tilda?

499
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: Tilda and Madison, And that brings us to the end

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00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: of this penultimate addition of Spinty Fiction, Terminus Part two,

501
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: Dun Dum Dum cliff a lot of the cliffhangers, Oh

502
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: my gosh. Also, as I said, this is very time

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00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: and place. I can tell where I was when I

504
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: wrote this. This is when I was discovering Dalanago wineries.

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00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: That like the description of the winery at the end,

506
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know, I know

507
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: what you were doing. I know where you were at

508
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember, you know, it's quite possible there

509
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: is a firefly winery. I don't know. Also, the names

510
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: are definitely references of this group that they encounter at

511
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: the end, are deffinitely references to my survivalist neighbors. So

512
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: take that as you will. And yeah, this message that

513
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: Tilda gets from her mom, I've always this is apparently

514
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: something I really like to do when I write. I

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00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: still do this, but kind of feel like dramatic, it's

516
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: broadcast to everybody message, but just this sort of heartfelt like,

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00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: please trust me and please come back. This was inspired

518
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: in part by a story I read that really impacted

519
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: me when I was a kid, where, uh, the child

520
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: in question just goes off and parties and causes all

521
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: this trouble and all this stuff, and then at the

522
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: end he returns home and he thinks his parents are

523
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 1: going to be so angry with them, and they're just

524
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: happy he's alive. So that's definitely what the inspiration was

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00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 1: for that that section. That is something else going on.

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00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but we will find

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00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: out in the last chapter of part two coming next month,

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00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,720
Speaker 1: so please keep a lookout for that. I'm really excited

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00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: for that one. As always, you can contact us if

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Speaker 1: you have any theories about this, or if you have

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Speaker 1: and our contributor Joey. Thank you and thanks to you

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