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Speaker 3: Good morning, sweetld and welcome to the No Dunks Podcast

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Speaker 3: on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, April twenty third, twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four. I'm jay Ea stkeets here in the Classic

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Speaker 3: and reviews. We had a trio of game twos last night,

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Speaker 3: two of which came down to wild endings. The other

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Speaker 3: one Magic casts. You want to start with that one,

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Speaker 3: Get it out of the way, save it to the end.

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Speaker 3: Let's go deep on magic calves. Oh man, what a

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Speaker 3: night making up for sort of that lackluster weekend. We

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Speaker 3: had a lot of blowouts, just incredible finishes, We'll begin

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Speaker 3: in Madison Square Garden. Dante DiVincenzo caps a desperate rally

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Speaker 3: by the Knicks with a three. Nicks beat the seventy

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Speaker 3: take the two to zero lead. Again, Devincenzo hits the

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Speaker 3: three his second attempt at it. Because we had Brunton

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Speaker 3: missing a pretty key free throw in the end, split

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Speaker 3: a pair there with like forty seven seconds ago. Brunts

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Speaker 3: and lucky bounce. Then the inbounds craziness of maybe Maxi

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Speaker 3: coughing up. It finds this way obviously, Josh Hart, they

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Speaker 3: get it out, Devincenzo misses. Okay, they gotta stop hell

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Speaker 3: Hertenstein comes flying in, he grabs an offensive rebound, swings

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Speaker 3: it to Og back to Dante and he hits that.

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Speaker 3: And then oh yeah, the Sixers they had a couple

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Speaker 1: I'm ali tired about the protest talk from the sixer

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Speaker 1: which was bunkers. It just started with the Knicks down

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Speaker 1: able to score that many freaking points in twenty one seconds.

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Speaker 1: They scored eight straight points in twenty one seconds because

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Speaker 1: Brunson hit that front rim, that bounce after having such

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Speaker 1: a terrible game for James Browns and that bounce hit

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Speaker 1: was ridiculous. And then as you said, di Vincenzo is

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Speaker 1: able to get a first look after they steal the ball.

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Speaker 1: And then Isaiah Hartenstein, the freaking Heros the next game,

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Speaker 1: he was fantastic in this game. We'll get through all that,

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Speaker 1: but the pass out to de Vincenzo, who said, you

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Speaker 1: know what, I'll do it again and I'll try a

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Speaker 1: three pointer. I don't need to tie this thing, let

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Speaker 1: the New York Knicks. I mean, how, I like That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm I know, we'll get to the protest talk whatever,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but just how in a game where the

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Speaker 1: Sixers sure looked like they had great performances from both

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Speaker 1: Maxi and embiid fighting through at sixty nine combined points

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Speaker 1: from those two in any situation with him beat extremely

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Speaker 1: That was awesome, just awesome.

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Speaker 2: What do you think that was Miller time? The only

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Speaker 3: Anything I can do, you canet better.

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Speaker 2: But that was incredible stuff, starting with Jalen Brunson making

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Speaker 2: Controversial was MAXI pulled? Was Nick Nurse? Did he actually

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Speaker 2: And it was wilds Bill and uh, you're right, Devincenzo.

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Speaker 2: the MSG called what the double bang? Pretty exciting stuff,

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Speaker 2: but that was awesome. Demoralizing for the Sixers.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely think so demoralized. That is they should They could

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Speaker 3: was lights out in the fourth quarter. He was incredible

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Speaker 3: desperate chance. I would have loved to see MAXI take

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately he was clamps by Isaiah Hartenstein. I know, you

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Speaker 3: That is just a tough one to stomach. And I've

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Speaker 1: I will just say, yes, it was really it was

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Speaker 1: a script written for the Knicks that Jalen Brunson stunk

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Speaker 1: It's just the fact that everybody else came through and

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Speaker 1: not myself. You guys are free if you want to.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that they challenged a call a two

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Speaker 1: that's our ball, and you checked the review, you checked

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Speaker 1: the replays, it was clearly a slap on Devincenzo's bicep.

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Speaker 1: Lowry slapped the guy, and somehow the Sixers are able

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Speaker 1: to win that challenge. I think the Knick should protest that.

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Speaker 1: Go protest. We'll help protests all night. But the fact

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Speaker 1: flipped the exact same minutes in this game. And Hartenstein

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Speaker 1: Hartenstein was so awesome in that third quarter turned this

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Speaker 1: He had three steals in that freaking quarter. He was

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Speaker 3: For Hartenstein to stay with Maxi on that full sprint drive.

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Speaker 3: at the end. Incredible game from Hartenstein. All these guys

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Speaker 3: But everybody else in these final whatever thirty seconds, everybody

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Speaker 2: This is why the Knicks went out and tried to

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Speaker 2: them game one, Hartenstein helped win them Game two. Everybody

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Speaker 2: but Jalen Brunson is shooting forty five percent from three

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Speaker 2: right now, Josh hart cannot miss. Dante DiVincenzo hit the

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Speaker 2: I would say that Maxie's been the best player in

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Speaker 3: It's such a great point about them wanting and going

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Speaker 2: I can get free throws, challenge it from behind. It's

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Speaker 2: They haven't really done anything in the playoffs so far here,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And if the seventy six Ers pulled this one out,

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Speaker 1: we'd all be talking about Jalen Brunson struggling because he

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I guess in Philadelphia, Nick Nurse, if the

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Speaker 3: know he was. He was huge in the first half

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Speaker 1: Prior thirteen from the floor in the first half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's eight a fifteen from deep in this series.

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Speaker 3: This is Josh Harp. But this is like a part

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Speaker 1: It worked last year in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, what he couldn't missed? You brought it up there?

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Speaker 3: The Dante DiVincenzo Mike Breen double bang. Believe there's six total.

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Speaker 3: a well deserved double bang to you, sir, when you

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Speaker 3: consider what the hell just happened in the final forty

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Speaker 3: another great one. Anything else though, on the Knicks taking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to give some props to the Knicks legends who

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Speaker 2: just constant memes. Kyle Lowry jumped into the crowd and

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Speaker 2: it ended up being Tim Thomas cat say, what's up man, guys,

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Speaker 2: to see what's hugging out mid game? Hug it's very well, yeah, exactly,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's endless and they fight for calls. It's it's

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Speaker 3: Feel if John Starks is upping on the court half

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Speaker 3: And again I feel bad for Sixers fan, especially with

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Speaker 3: on to the second incredible game in the association last night,

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Speaker 3: Jamal Murray sinking a shot at the buzzer to cap

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Speaker 3: one ninety nine. Jamal Murray made a shot and then

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Speaker 2: Man, he almost gotta feel sorry for the Lakers. They

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Speaker 2: It also a unique experience watching this one because twenty

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Speaker 2: They're gonna lose this one. And then they kept scoring

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Speaker 2: like huge momentum, stopping baskets. It was the it's over

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Speaker 2: Like Jokic makes that put back after like he misses

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Speaker 2: Halting off, halting off, halting off these Nuggets runs until

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Speaker 3: This was like the referee meme. Is that what you

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Speaker 1: do it. And uh they pulled the yoke that was

430
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Speaker 1: This is a this is a two to seven matchup.

431
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,439
Speaker 1: We got one here and one in the East. I

432
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,080
Speaker 1: think the two seven has been the best. I think

433
00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 1: the seventy six ers and the Celtics Celtics, I'm already

434
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:23,719
Speaker 1: thinking about next next conference finals here, who's going to

435
00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 1: meet them? Who's going to meet the Celtics? By yeah,

436
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,560
Speaker 1: two seven has been the best.

437
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:30,760
Speaker 3: You're you guys brought it up there. I'm glad you did.

438
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,119
Speaker 3: The biggest what if play from the final couple of

439
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: minutes may have been with about eighty seconds to go

440
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 3: after the Lebron dunk, where Joki is trying to draw

441
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 3: the shooting fowl from my half court, he does heaves

442
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,520
Speaker 3: it up. It airballs like by three or four feet,

443
00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 3: and somehow Aaron Gordon comes up with it. He was

444
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 3: like a receiver where Reeves was the smaller cornerback and

445
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 3: Age keeps both his feet and bounds and then spins

446
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,320
Speaker 3: and finds Michael Porter Junior, who lets it go and

447
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 3: bangs home. There like a huge play. Reeves had the

448
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,080
Speaker 3: inside track and Aaron Gordon just like you know, more athletic, bigger,

449
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 3: and just timed it perfectly to grab it. The airball

450
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 3: that that yo Ki should chuck up because he was

451
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: trying to draw a foul. That was really weird. And

452
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,959
Speaker 3: that was a big like a huge play. Huge if

453
00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:18,520
Speaker 3: Reeves comes up with it or it goes out of

454
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 3: bounds on the nuggets. I mean, there's still a lot

455
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 3: of time left going wrong, but that was wild. Like

456
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 3: if I'd love to know what happens if they come

457
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 3: up with that and it's Lakers ball and they have

458
00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 3: another possession there to maybe extend the lead. But what

459
00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: I'll play by Aaron Gordon. I just couldn't believe that

460
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: kept it to get to it, to keep his feet

461
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 3: in and then all in one motion sort of spin

462
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,400
Speaker 3: and just throw a perfect pass to Michael Pour Junior,

463
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 3: who then was like collapsed on by two Lakers defenders

464
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: and he just splashed it home. It was ti game.

465
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 2: As soon as Michael Porter Junior catches the ball, he

466
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,920
Speaker 2: thinks he's open.

467
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,880
Speaker 3: Oh yes, well this is true.

468
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,000
Speaker 2: Then Mell was well guarded all over him and he

469
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,359
Speaker 2: just steps into it and hits it. He was big time.

470
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: I thought.

471
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: I thought Christian Brown had some big time minutes as well,

472
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: and I thought KCP was pretty sweet. Had a huge

473
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 2: dunk in this one too.

474
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 3: So the Nuggets converted on eight of their final nine possessions.

475
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,479
Speaker 3: They scored at a rate of two hundred points per

476
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: one hundred persessions over the last five minutes. I've never

477
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: seen it that high. Two hundred points per one hundred

478
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: persessions over the last five and Yo Kitchen Jamal Murray

479
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: the most unstoppable duo in the game, six for six

480
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: for fifteen points over the final four to twenty five.

481
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: Even when Darren Ham said, all right, we're putting Ad

482
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: and Lebron into this action, We'll see if they can

483
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,199
Speaker 3: slow it down at all, and they couldn't. I'm what

484
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,680
Speaker 3: an incredible shot from Jamal Murray, like fading so far

485
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: back there on the baseline with ad trying to contest it,

486
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,840
Speaker 3: like he got him on the little hesitation, like he

487
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: thought maybe he was going to take a three, a

488
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: little step back three. But it's incredible play.

489
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 1: He said. He jumped a lot, jumped really high and

490
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,479
Speaker 1: then faded a lot and then he didn't know if

491
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,159
Speaker 1: it had gone in for sure right that crowd, but

492
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: because he had everybody all over him, but he thought

493
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,359
Speaker 1: he hit it, and then everybody let him know that

494
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 1: we're the Nuggets, and it felt like they were going

495
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: to lose game two, like they lost to the Miami

496
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: Heat and the finals there at home. It felt like

497
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: it because game twos are hard. It is surprising that

498
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: we haven't had one win on the road quite yet,

499
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 1: but they are hard. After Steve Carr always says we win.

500
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Teams win game one and then seconds are the second

501
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: game is hard to repeat because it felt like Anthony

502
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: Davis was just so locked in in this game. They

503
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: were they.

504
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 3: Really ready, Yeah.

505
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah he was. He was guarding your Kich for part

506
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: of it, but thirty two and eleven he was extremely

507
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: locked in. And to have a D'Angel Russell game, his

508
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,359
Speaker 1: best game clearly against the Nuggets here in the playoffs

509
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: these last two years, where he just went splashplash, splash

510
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 1: seven of eleven from three to start this game. He

511
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: was awesome and that that really gave the Lakers some juice.

512
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 1: It is surprising that this was the game that the

513
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: Lakers lose. I mean, just watching the first I know,

514
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: and we knew that the next were going to come

515
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: back at some point, but that the Lakers weren't able

516
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: to hold it off was real.

517
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: Surprising, right, Yeah, you knew the run was coming, but

518
00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 3: it was, like Trace said, the Lakers did seem to

519
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 3: have an answer every time. It was like, well that's

520
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 3: a big shot. Well that's a big shot, but not enough.

521
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: And yeah, ad Man, awesome game through three quarters, but

522
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 3: he did nothing in the fourth. Yeah, I mean that altitude, man,

523
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 3: that guy needs to train in the mountains, like it

524
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: catches up with him. Like he took one shot. Obviously

525
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: I cooked a couple times there. I mean, in fact,

526
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray, excuse me, Jamal Crawford. He literally called Jamal

527
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: Murray game winner. I don't know if you caught this.

528
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,639
Speaker 3: It was two fifty to go. Jamal Murray weaved his

529
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 3: way around a d and it was like Ad was tired,

530
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: like he he didn't do anything, and he like so

531
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray just laid it in at the bucket, easy,

532
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 3: super easy lap. Jamal Crawford says, as many as as

533
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 3: many of those early excuse me, as many as those

534
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 3: earlier What do I want to keep saying?

535
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 2: Early?

536
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 3: Let's go as many as those easier ones Murray can

537
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 3: get he can hit a big one later, Jamal Murray.

538
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 3: Jamal Crawford saw Jamal Murray. Hey, you got the fucking point.

539
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 3: Why is their one named Jamal Crawford was great on

540
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 3: the call, I will say, like that addition there throwing

541
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 3: him alongside Ah Reggie. Yeah, that was good. I thought

542
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 3: he was really good. But well you really saw it happening,

543
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 3: and that doubt, to me was because of Ad just

544
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: pure exhaustion at that point. Not to mention then you

545
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: know Yolkic scoring on him every time too.

546
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. They also didn't ever pass him the ball, Like

547
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 2: the one time they tried to pass it to him,

548
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: it was Dangelo Russell throwing a hook lob from the

549
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 2: left wing to the fourth row. Basically that was the

550
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: thing the Lakers made, just like enough mistakes to lose

551
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: this game. Torrian Prince like took a ridiculous pull up three.

552
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: At one point, there was an early transition take where

553
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: Spencer Dinwoody basically airball the lay up and then the

554
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: Dila lob to no One. Just ridiculous stuff that you're like,

555
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: come on, we cannot make a mistake in this fourth

556
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: quarter because they're going to capitalize on the other end.

557
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought the third quarter, Lakers come out,

558
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: they're running this pick and roll and they're killing the

559
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 2: Nuggets with Lebron and ad get a couple of dunks

560
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: on it right away, get up to that twenty point lead.

561
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: But then the Michael Malone Nuggets switched things up. KCP

562
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 2: starts guarding Lebron, James Aaron Gordon goes on to Anthony Davis,

563
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 2: and Jokic just gets to hang out on really hot

564
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: Ja Muraw. They had never put Yokic into the action

565
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 2: though ever, again, like run a play for really hot Jamura.

566
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to because he ain't Lebron

567
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 2: or a d but get Yoki into the action you

568
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: might get a good look. Because they could not generate

569
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 2: the same kind of offense that they had in the

570
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: third quarter.

571
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's completely overlooked this guy because that's what

572
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 3: he does. But triple double for Yo Kitch twenty seven points,

573
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: twenty boards, tennysis. We just got to talking about it,

574
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 3: really because it's like he's just so consistent, especially when

575
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: you get into the fourth quarter and it's him and

576
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray and those like the footwork on a couple

577
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 3: of those Yokic moves, just putting the guys in the blender, spinning, spinning,

578
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 3: spin in, you know, and then if he misses, he

579
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 3: always gets his rebound anyway. I swear to god, he

580
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 3: just anytime he misses in a fourth quarter, he gets

581
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 3: the board and then seems to score on the putback.

582
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 3: It's uncanny.

583
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a game. Any game where you get thirty

584
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 1: two and eleven from Anthony Davis, you say, Okay, that's

585
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: that's the way we win. To go fourteen of nineteen

586
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: and hope our other guys do enough to balance Denver,

587
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 1: and they did. It was a great fight. But this

588
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 1: is the blow. How can you you can't win? Yeah,

589
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 1: for four or five against the Denver Nuggets. There's absolutely

590
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: no chance. This is the blow They needed this one.

591
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you said it. Ad did have a really

592
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: good game until he tired. Lebron had a really good game.

593
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: He was great in the fourth quarter, you know, outside

594
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 3: of missing the obviously wide open three, and he did

595
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: miss that one free throw. Danzel Russell seven threes, I mean, okay,

596
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 3: that's what you wanted and needed. You need somebody to

597
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 3: hit threes. You had a twenty point lead, you were

598
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: up ten going in the fourth, you were hitting still buckets,

599
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 3: timely buckets, and you still lose in regulation because of

600
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: the brilliance of Kitchener's finest Jamal Murray. Did you see

601
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: Ad after the game? Quite frustrated? Jamal Murray made a

602
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 3: shot and then he just chucked the mic and left.

603
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 3: That's gotta yeah, can't blame him now, but we'll see.

604
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 3: So you don't think you don't think the Lakers are

605
00:27:58,600 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 3: going to come back to win this thing?

606
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 1: You think, I'm britty sure. I'm pretty sure they don't know.

607
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean, they hit five more threes. They shot forty

608
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,679
Speaker 1: nine percent from the floor. Yes, that was it. That

609
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: felt like the the ending.

610
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, Well, hopefully the Lakers can give us

611
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: a series here.

612
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: Still.

613
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: They've played six times here in the last two postseasons

614
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: and the Nuggets average margin of victory six points. So

615
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 3: these are all kiss competitive, close entertaining games and the

616
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: Nuggets just keep coming out on top in every single

617
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 3: one of them. Any other thoughts on Lake Snugs.

618
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jamal Crawford was talking about heat checks at one

619
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: point in East and somebody took like a crazy heat

620
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 2: check three and Reggie says to Jamal Crawford, Jamal, you

621
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't turn that down. Jamal said, the only thing I'm

622
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 2: turning down is my collar. If I make two in

623
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: a row, it's a party.

624
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 3: I love that. And I thought he was awesome.

625
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: I thought he was just like a nice addition to Reggie,

626
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: a nice edition. He's like I felt like when Reggie

627
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: wasn't tall, he had to get his points in real quick.

628
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: So I think it was a little slow down mode

629
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: for Jamal.

630
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, But then what made it nice for us

631
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 3: maybe is it's not Reggie having to talk every single time.

632
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 3: At least you could get a little Jamal Crawford insight.

633
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: And he's got he had some great lines and he's

634
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 3: just you could tell the guy just I mean, he

635
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 3: loves basketball. How long he played and he just loves it.

636
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: This is a guy that goes to pick up runs

637
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 3: still and records his own runs on an iPad set

638
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: up in the corner so you can watch it later.

639
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: It's like we're talking about runs like where he's played,

640
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: like you know we've played or whatever.

641
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: Crawford has some of my highlights. Love nobody else.

642
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: She want to ask for the footage.

643
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,959
Speaker 2: I make one in a row. It's a party. I

644
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: also liked at one point. I think it was after

645
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 2: Jokic had that like baseline post move where he pump

646
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 2: fakes a d makes the shot, goes to the line,

647
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: makes the free throw. They cut to the crowd and

648
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: there was four minions. Yeah, not great minions though. It's like,

649
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: you guys got any you got like a yellow hat?

650
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: It's me on yellow bri it, throw it on some

651
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: goggles out of here. Look like a minion. But I thought,

652
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: you know, for a thrown together minions costume not bad.

653
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: Right, Denver's got costumes as somebody. There's some weirdo in

654
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 1: there doing it. We've had jokers before.

655
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, every year, Despicable me for come to theaters in July. Man,

656
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: it's incredible grill of marketing. Here. All right, the final line,

657
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: I think it's July. Yeah, I think it's really July.

658
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: I want to say, right before bust, I think it's

659
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 3: July fourth, basically weekend, like.

660
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: They should put it on July fourth, despicable of me.

661
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: Four?

662
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, I think it rights itself.

663
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I think it is July third.

664
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it's I haven't looked at the the schedule.

665
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: Okay, good, all right, Well the final game from last night.

666
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: We don't need to spend probably as much time on

667
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: this one, but Donovan Mitchell scored twenty three points as

668
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: the Cavs got the ninety six eighty six win over

669
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: the Magic. They take a two to zero series lead.

670
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 3: Your notes from this one, past mellows another slug fast here.

671
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks. That's started so poorly for Orlando, and

672
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: so the Caves just sucked the life out of them

673
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: because they just went clank clank, clank, hit, missing their

674
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: first seven threes. Because the Cavs didn't shoot the three

675
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: all that well at all either.

676
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 3: The Calves have not been lights out in this series

677
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: by any means and plans, terrible and winning easily.

678
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's the unfortunate part. And I think they

679
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: and Jamal Moseley has to rethink this starting lineup. Jonathan

680
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 1: Isaac starting because he's starting in the corners, and he

681
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: missed his first three and then the second three had

682
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: opportunity to shoot and said, I'm not gonna do this

683
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: right away because he doesn't feel comfortable there. He shot

684
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: it fine all season long, but he had a terrible

685
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: night shooting the three ball, just like the entire team.

686
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, even even the Donovan Mitchell that you'd think,

687
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: you know, he was the story after Game one, also

688
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: kind of a quiet night in this one didn't take over.

689
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: Well.

690
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 3: The part of that was the Magic's defense. They changed

691
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: it at least in the second half, because I thought

692
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: Mitchell did a great job of setting the tone in

693
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 3: this game. He had four teen points, seven boards in

694
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 3: the first quarter. And then yeah, they had to lead,

695
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 3: and we talked about it. You know, you got a

696
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: twenty point leading against a Magic, or a ten point lead,

697
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: for crying out loud, that feels like fifty against this

698
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: Orlando team that can't score. But then the Magic did

699
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: make a smart change, and I think that's something to

700
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 3: watch in Game three, whether they start with it. They

701
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 3: blitzed and trapped Mitchell. That's what Tibbs and the Knicks

702
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 3: did a lot of times last year. Get the ball

703
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 3: out of his hand, make all these other guys try

704
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 3: and beat you. And yeah, he only scored four points

705
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 3: Mitchell did in the second half, So I think that's

706
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 3: something to watch in Orlando, either switching Isaac Austin out

707
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 3: isa ast what's with.

708
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 2: Me and names today?

709
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:39,959
Speaker 3: Ah? I mean, you know, I'm finding my playoff footing here.

710
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: I might want to start a night.

711
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you might see them take Jonathan Isaac out of

712
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 3: the line up. Oh yeah, and yeah, start the game

713
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 3: by blitzing Mitchell and seeing if these other guys like

714
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 3: Carl I'm not saying it'll work, but that worked in

715
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: the second half at least. I mean, this is the

716
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 3: tiniest run they made and made it respectable. But yeah,

717
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 3: otherwise the cazavone.

718
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, only four points for Mitchell in the second half,

719
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 2: but they came right after Orlando went on thirteen to

720
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: zeroch he slammed the door.

721
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 3: Shit.

722
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 2: The defense isn't the problem for Orlando. They're holding the

723
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: caves the forty three percent shooting and twenty nine from three.

724
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: The problem is that they are drawing dead offensively. They

725
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: literally can't score. Orlando's backcourt through two games is five

726
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: for twenty seven from three and has scored forty three

727
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 2: points total. Who are they going to start? There's no

728
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: There's nobody that they can bring in that makes any sense,

729
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: because I agree like Isaac has not been good and

730
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 2: he's kind of useed toless in this series because he

731
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 2: can't stop Jared Allen. Jared Allen is going crazy. Mo

732
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Wagner has been their best big somehow. Mo Wagner is

733
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: a plus one in both of these games. Can you

734
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: start him and play him an entire game? Doubtfully filed

735
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: out last night.

736
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 3: He'll file out.

737
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: He'll file out right away in this one. Joe Ingles

738
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: has been their best playmaker. That's a problem. He's one

739
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: hundred and so I don't know. Wendell Carter Junior. Maybe

740
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 2: start him, Yeah, but it really doesn't matter. The only

741
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: way that the Magic are going to get to win

742
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: in this series is if they have a hot shooting Idaho.

743
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. And Jalen Sacks obviously left this game initially with

744
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: a knee injury. Yeah, And he is their their heart.

745
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: He is their big energy on the perimeter. Defensively and

746
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: he came back surprisingly in the second half, didn't go

747
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: all that well. They don't have enough shooting. That's just

748
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: a problem. It was nice to see Gary Harris splash

749
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: some threes in this one, but they just don't have

750
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: enough of it. And Mo Wagner he was the key

751
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: for me to make this a game. In the fourth

752
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: quarter when they went on that thirteen oh run, it

753
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 1: was all lo he doesn't have enough. He had enough

754
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: fouls at that point, but it is true he likes

755
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: to foul out and so he did fall out and

756
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: he sat and Yeah, even though to Donovan Mitchell was

757
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: two of ten from three, he did hit a couple

758
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: shots there to kind of seal the deal. And they

759
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: just needed somebody. They just have enough right now against

760
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: this Orlando Magic team. They do. And Joe Ingles was

761
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: my funny I thought it was the funny shot of

762
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: this game when he shot put it off the backboard

763
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: and in. It literally was a shot put mister Joe Ingles.

764
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: Isaacacorro doing the worm on the floor. It looked like

765
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: after hitting two threes, it looked like he was he

766
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 1: was about he's laying flat on his stomach It's like

767
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: he was about he was about to break dance, but

768
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: he stopped. He stopped himself. Do it, man.

769
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 3: The problem is Orlando's offense for a majority of this

770
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 3: series feels like one of three things happen. Ben Carro,

771
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: he like methodically tries to get to a spot he

772
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,240
Speaker 3: can't get around any But like I will say, MOBILEI

773
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: and Max Strus have completely neutralized the one advantage we

774
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 3: thought maybe Magic would have in this series. That's the

775
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 3: wing Pallo and Franz. I could count on one hand

776
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: how many times through two games a Magic player has

777
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: actually dribbled around a Cavalier defender. So credit to those guys,

778
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 3: you know, moving their feet, keeping them in front of Now,

779
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: you can do that a lot easier when you're not

780
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,399
Speaker 3: all that worried about them shooting, so you can sort

781
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: of back up a little bit, cut off angles. But yeah,

782
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: Ben Caro, he'll maybe get a jumper around the free

783
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 3: throw line right. If not, he'll throw it away because

784
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,719
Speaker 3: he's been horrible when it comes to playmaking. He reminded me, Trey,

785
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 3: when you play pickup hoops sunk times. I'm not saying you,

786
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 3: it's like with anyone and you cut through right the paint.

787
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: But you got somebody that maybe isn't the greatest passer

788
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: in the world, and they try to make that pass

789
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: and it always gets picked off because there's just way

790
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 3: too small of a hole that at a certain point

791
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 3: I just stopped cutting through because I'm like, that guy's

792
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 3: always gonna think I'm open and it's not there. You're

793
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: forcing it. And so I feel like Ben Carro, he's

794
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: seeing these things and that it's just the GAP's not

795
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 3: big enough. He's gotten picked off a lot of time.

796
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 3: Two games. Yeah, okay, so that's speaking. Then the other

797
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 3: thing that maybe happens is Franz Vogner is missing so

798
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 3: many shots at the rim. He just chucks them up

799
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 3: though he has like sort of no game plan when

800
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: he goes. He'll sometimes get to the free throw line

801
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: he'll draw a foul. Otherwise it's just like he's just

802
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 3: flipping it and they're not coming close. So there's that.

803
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: And the third thing is you already said it it's

804
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 3: a magic player. In game two, it was Jonathan Isaac

805
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 3: bricking a quarter three. There was a stretch there where

806
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: he bricked like four straight. So it's like, that's not

807
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 3: great offense. That's not you know, breaking news there. But

808
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: they need somebody. I don't know who it is though,

809
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: because like Suggs has been their best permater player shooting

810
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: a ball, and he's been brutal, Like he's the best.

811
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: Last night Gary, Gary had a decent game. Cole Anthony

812
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: is unplayable. He's unplayable. He has been brutality. They're gonna

813
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 3: have to go with Anthony Black yet, did they? They

814
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 3: brought it a Caleb Houston got a minute or two there.

815
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 3: I think he bought answer and then Folks is just

816
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: as bad.

817
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,879
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so it's bad out there.

818
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's rough, you know, shooting thirty six

819
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 3: percent nine thirty five on threes. Yeah, they need somebody

820
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 3: to pop off. Maybe it's a Wagner, Maybe it's a

821
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: Joe Ingalls, maybe it's an Antony.

822
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,439
Speaker 1: There was a pass. There was a past combo from

823
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: Mode to Franz. Yeah, the bro combo. That was cool.

824
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: But they can't do it enough times. Yeah, it is

825
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: disappointing to see Franz unable to to find it.

826
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 3: He's been I think so bad. I think his box

827
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 3: score looks even better than it did. I mean, he's

828
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 3: five to seventeen. It's it's wild watching these games, how

829
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 3: poor he looks. And then just to give more love

830
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: to Jared Allen, who you know, even himself said the

831
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 3: lights were too bright last year. Yeah, he was too honest.

832
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, they'll say that. Man. He's been

833
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 3: great in this series. Thirty eight rebounds through two games.

834
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: The Magic starters have forty nine total. He's nearly out

835
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 3: rebounding the entire starting lineup of the Orlando Magic through

836
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 3: two games, and that's pretty close forty nine to thirty eight.

837
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: So he's just been a beast inside. Yeah, him and

838
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: Mobley obviously had that great start in Game one, and

839
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: I think defensively it has been awesome at neutralizing those

840
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: wing guys, Pallo, Frons, all those guys.

841
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: It's like the Ninja Turtles growing up with the splinter meme.

842
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 2: This is what happened to the Cavs last year. They

843
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: got completely punked on the glass by a bigger, badder team,

844
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 2: and now they're doing it to the Magic. Yeah. So

845
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: I don't know who the Magic are gonna draw next year.

846
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, that remind me of the Cavs did win

847
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: one game right against the next ye five gamem Orlando's

848
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: got one down there in Florida later in the week.

849
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 3: All right, any other thoughts in the last night's games, man,

850
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 3: Darius Garland, good job, good job, Darius, job, Darius, anything

851
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 3: specific you want to point out?

852
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: It was a great third quarter.

853
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's true.

854
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: Still turns the ball over too much, but they're still

855
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 2: good defense being played by the Magic for sure. All right,

856
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 2: let's get to some news here. The NBA has revealed

857
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: three finalists for the seven awards that honor the top

858
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 2: performers in the twenty three twenty four season. You're seeing

859
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: it here on YouTube. I'm not going to read every

860
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: single name, but you know, Clutch Player of the Year,

861
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, Most Improved, which we'll find

862
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,959
Speaker 2: out tonight, the winner, MVP, Rookie of the Year six man,

863
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: and then coach so TNT all week long here is

864
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: going to be sort of revealing the award winners throughout

865
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: their coverage again, MIP tonight. Any surprises from either of

866
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 2: you guys in terms of the finalists, either a name

867
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: on one of the lists or an omission or two.

868
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by Victor Wembinyama being on the NBA Defensive

869
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. Le I know he's leading the

870
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: league in blocks. He's probably leading the league in standing

871
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 1: blocks as well. They got to keep that stat, keep

872
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: that set.

873
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: Come on.

874
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: But he plays for the twenty second best defense. That

875
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: is bad. I know, he's extremely good. And I like

876
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: watching the highlights of the Memphis Grizzlies coming down on

877
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,840
Speaker 1: three on one Wemby underneath the hoop and they decide,

878
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: you know what, We're gonna shoot a three instead because

879
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: that guy's too good. I like the highlights. That being said,

880
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: you have to be running a good defense, you do,

881
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: and that's part of it. And he obviously is not

882
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: to be twenty second is truly bad. There are just

883
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: so many more players like a Drew Holliday or anybody

884
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: really from like the top five six twenty second. This

885
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: is like me saying Yannistatkombo is a little overrated in

886
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen or two years into the league. He was

887
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: only two years into the league. He hadn't made an

888
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: All Star Game. Yeah, well he wasn't himself, and so

889
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: people thinking, oh, he's the next one, okay, but he

890
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: ain't now. So it's just how you look at overrated.

891
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: It's all how you look at defensive play of the

892
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: aear you gotta be running a good defense. So I

893
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 1: think it's just soon. I know everybody wants to say

894
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: Wemby is going to be Defensive Player of the Year,

895
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: and you know what, you're right.

896
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: He even said it. He was like, hey, Rudy, enjoy

897
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: your last one here winning it.

898
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Rudy, Rudy Wemby and bam, you know, good

899
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: good nominees for sure.

900
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 3: So you want maybe on there or Anthony Davis. I

901
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: assume somebody.

902
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Else so lose because they're not gonna win. They're not

903
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:22,879
Speaker 1: gonna beat Rudy.

904
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:28,240
Speaker 3: That that's the hilarious arguing about who's going to finish

905
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: second and third in all these because most of them

906
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 3: are decided. Do you have a mission or a name

907
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: on there that you're surprised by?

908
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: I think a d and Defensive Player of the Year

909
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:41,400
Speaker 2: is probably the most surprising because, I mean, the Spurs

910
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: are a pretty good defensive team when Wemby plays, but

911
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: as are the Lakers when Anthony Davis plays. But it's

912
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 2: all who's coming in second in that one. Anyways, I

913
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 2: think it's very funny that there were no Celtics nominated

914
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 2: for anything.

915
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 3: The Bulls got.

916
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: Two nominees Clutch Player of the Year and Most Improved,

917
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: but nothing for the sixty four win Celtics, who are

918
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: clearly the best team in the league the entire year.

919
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 2: Joe Mazoola, I think probably had the best chance in

920
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,280
Speaker 2: Coach of the Year voting, but that one is everybody

921
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: can get votes. There's ten nominees, basically yeah for Coach

922
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: of the Year, so I think him not being mentioned

923
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: there is probably the best chance the Celtics had, do you.

924
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess in looking at these it feels

925
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 3: like the only one we don't really know is maybe

926
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 3: Clutch Player of the Year. I don't know who's gonna

927
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 3: get the vote between who was it? Curry DeRozan and

928
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 3: uh and Shay was it? I think, so, okay, yeah,

929
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 3: that's right, that's right. That's the only one I can't

930
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 3: figure out because it fels like these other ones are

931
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: sort of wrapped up. I guess you may still believe

932
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 3: Kobe White is winning Most Improved. I feel like Maxi's

933
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 3: gonna get it, and then I think Coach of the

934
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 3: Year will probably be Diagno. He won the Coach Coach

935
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 3: of the Year six man. It feels like was between

936
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 3: Monk and Nasried, and then Monk got injured and Nazried

937
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 3: started starting to help juice the numbers a little bit.

938
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: Feels like he's gonna win.

939
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: I don't know.

940
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: I think MVP Okitch obviously Wemby Rookie of the Year.

941
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: I did I think you're outside of maybe clutch Player

942
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 3: of the Year.

943
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. I think the NBA has done good

944
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: in having these finalists announced because they didn't used to

945
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 1: and now they have it. It sort of makes it

946
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: a debate even though we know who's winning. It makes

947
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: the conversation. I think, just just just being in the

948
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: league office, I think this is smart, not that anything

949
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: really happens with it at all.

950
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 3: At this point, I feel like there's an exhaustion that

951
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: almost sets in with these We've thought, we've talked about

952
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 3: them so a lot. Everybody's talked about them a lot.

953
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: Everyone's like, just name them.

954
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: That's in years past. We all think, when did they

955
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: announce each of these, because it's it's kind of unknown

956
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: when the exact date is so here it starts a conversation.

957
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 1: I wish there was a banner that said, how do

958
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: you pronounce Mark Dagnault's last name Dagnault Daniel like a

959
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 1: good French name or that you knew all that?

960
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't know.

961
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,840
Speaker 1: I don't know what the other one is, but people

962
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 1: don't know how to pronounce it.

963
00:43:58,800 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 3: How do you pronounce sweps?

964
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 1: Yeah? What was that short? I love? Those are Those

965
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 1: are some of the best shorts, just mispronouncing it pss.

966
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: That's great.

967
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the best.

968
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 3: That's really good.

969
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorites. Those are so good.

970
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: Was the buckiesies Gary Zyki?

971
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 1: That's the Zeki?

972
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 3: Oh wow, that's best.

973
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: Uh yeah. The Spanish guys pronounced pronouncing every team saying Spanish,

974
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,399
Speaker 1: so saying English. Actually, I take that back.

975
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: Who do you think is gonna win? M I P tonight?

976
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 3: Do you think it's Maxie or do you think it's

977
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: Trey Kirby's Kobe White. Trey Kirby has done a pretty

978
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 3: damn good job all season long pushing the Kobe White propaganda.

979
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: It started to fizzle out the injury happened. That was

980
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 3: bad timing. Do you believe Maxi or Whiters or Shenghun?

981
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: I guess who I didn't think played enough? Games, but

982
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: there's a weird workaround on that.

983
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:11,479
Speaker 2: One time is injury, perfect time is injury. So that's good.

984
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and there will be Knicks fans yelling about Jalen Brunson,

985
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: but I do think, yeah, it's Maxy for me. Okay, Okay,

986
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 1: what do you think you think he could seal the

987
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: deal with your your Kobe?

988
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: The problem for Kobe is that his forty two point

989
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 2: game in the Play and Tournament A doesn't count for

990
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 2: his stats and b happened after the votes were dead.

991
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 2: But I will say I think he's getting more votes

992
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 2: this season than you would have thought in January of

993
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: this year.

994
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair, Yeah, that's fair. And you know, at

995
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 3: least it's like, it's nice to see Maxi kicking ass

996
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 3: here through two games.

997
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

998
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 3: Wow, that guy has improved into a top wherever you

999
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 3: want to put him in the league. He feels very

1000
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: high on the list, at least from the guard position.

1001
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: The guy is incredible. Okay. Next piece of news. The

1002
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 3: Athletic dropped its semi regular anonymous NBA player poll Monday morning,

1003
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: saying it's NBA reporters interviewed a hundred and forty two

1004
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,720
Speaker 3: players over the final months of the season, the Athletic

1005
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 3: granted anonymity in the hopes of getting more honest answers

1006
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 3: to a wide variety of questions. You know, we're talking

1007
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,479
Speaker 3: about who the players think is MVP and the best

1008
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 3: defender and the most overrated, most underrated and so on.

1009
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: Was there something that jumped out to you from this

1010
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: anonymous player poll that went up yesterday that you wanted

1011
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 3: to touch on or were you may be shocked by.

1012
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 2: There's a lot of shocking things, okay to be seen

1013
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: in here, but let's start with I thought it was

1014
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 2: interesting to see what basically came down to as the

1015
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: player MVP ballot, because you got to vote for who

1016
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: you think is the MVP, but you can only vote

1017
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,720
Speaker 2: for one person, so they got to tali it up Jokich, Sga,

1018
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:44,320
Speaker 2: Luca Tatum, and then a tie for Giannis and Donovan Mitchell.

1019
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 2: So I mean, Yokic is gonna win it. He won

1020
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 2: the straw pole Tim Bontemp's style, and he also won

1021
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 2: the player straw pole here. I thought that was kind

1022
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 2: of interesting to see, and I thought it was pretty interesting.

1023
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 2: Victor Wabinia, I'm a fifteen point two percent of the

1024
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 2: vote the most votes for best defense in the league.

1025
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Guys are rookie.

1026
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: They're terrified of him.

1027
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: I don't want to say we're scared, right, but we

1028
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 2: won't vote number one.

1029
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point.

1030
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: Whoever voted Paul Pierce as the goat? I mean, I

1031
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: mean that is I mean.

1032
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Do we have any ideas on who?

1033
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: First of all, very funny line in the write up,

1034
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: and it's a final note here, someone did, in fact

1035
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 2: vote for Paul Pierce as the goat? Insert shrug emoji here, right,

1036
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: who could this be? First thought, Paul Pierce or no,

1037
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 2: Paul George. Okay, taken with the Paul's You know, Paul

1038
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: Pierce is an LA guy, just like Paul George. So

1039
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: maybe he's thinking he grew up hit some clutch shots.

1040
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: I liked him as a youngster. I don't know. Yeah,

1041
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: My other two possible guesses are either Pat Connaton or

1042
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 2: George Niang.

1043
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 3: Okay, well, what's They're.

1044
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: From Massachusetts and they're thirty one years old, so they

1045
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 2: would have been like fifteen when Paul Pierce won the

1046
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: title of the Celtics.

1047
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 3: If you saw the Celtic when you're fifteen years old,

1048
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 3: you might think that bite might be your goat, right right?

1049
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? Was it? You?

1050
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 3: Pat interesting and it's very good shaped like Paul Pierce

1051
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 3: a little bit.

1052
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: If you can do what I can do.

1053
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do find that Lebron is rising every single

1054
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 1: season when they do these polls to go past Michael

1055
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: Jordan as the goat for a bunch of fans. And

1056
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: that makes sense. You brought up the age everybody who

1057
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: plays basketball, frankly, maybe never saw Jordan win a title.

1058
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 1: It happened twenty six years ago. And if they did,

1059
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: they were a freaking baby, literally a baby. So you know,

1060
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:39,479
Speaker 1: it sort of makes sense.

1061
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:39,919
Speaker 2: For us.

1062
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:44,800
Speaker 1: We were of the age, were tea bops. This is awesome.

1063
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: But for these guys, and especially with the age of

1064
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: every freaking article, you know, being thrown in your face.

1065
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: You see Lebron in the last twenty years, that's what

1066
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 1: people have talked about, so that if he hasn't passed

1067
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: yet closer. I can't believe he hasn't passed yet. Actually

1068
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: it's very close. But that was fun. That was fun

1069
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: to look at. I was also surprised by I know

1070
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,680
Speaker 1: us and we talk about Denver being that the favorite,

1071
00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 1: but I am a little surprised that the players voted

1072
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: for them to win the title as the favorite over

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00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 1: the Celtics by that much, like fifty thirty four percent.

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00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: I a little surprised the Celtics were the best team

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00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: all season. They do have home court advantage and it

1076
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,919
Speaker 1: is hard to freaking repeat, and so I'm a little

1077
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: surprised they should have the easier route. I just want

1078
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: to see great finals is what I'm thinking here. But

1079
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: it was it was a good bowl, one hundred and

1080
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 1: twenty seven people. I was it was good. Was well done.

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Speaker 3: My other two notes, who in the league would you

1082
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 3: least like to fight? Over sixty players? Picked James Johnson

1083
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:51,720
Speaker 3: blood Sport himself. It's a good pick if you're actually

1084
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:55,240
Speaker 3: going to fight. You know, the guy with MMA fights

1085
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: under his belt, pro I know who you want to

1086
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 3: go against.

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Speaker 1: Did he say that he could beat John Jones?

1088
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: I saw he trained for a year. He could be here.

1089
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm six dude, Yeah, big dude. John Jones is

1091
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:13,399
Speaker 2: big for an MMA fighter, but four extra inches of reach. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would take Jones personally.

1093
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. And there's a lot of tall basketball players they

1094
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: should be able to fight too.

1095
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, Okay, so I like that one and then

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Speaker 3: the final one one other questions. I guess this is

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Speaker 3: a bonus question this year, who's your favorite current non

1098
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,360
Speaker 3: NBA athlete? And the names on the list were Ravens quarterback,

1099
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson w NBA number one overall pick, Caitlin Clark.

1100
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 3: We had Djokovic tennis great and one vote and I

1101
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 3: have an idea who did this? Trace Thompson, Triple A outfielder,

1102
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 3: received a single vote as the favorite current non NBA athlete.

1103
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: I have a feeling that Clay voted for his brother

1104
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 3: there despite him being in the Triple A trying to

1105
00:50:58,280 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 3: get back into the Major's all right.

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Speaker 1: It's gone down in the Yeah, yeah, I didn't know that.

1107
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: He's uh still with the Mets. I believe right outfielder there.

1108
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 3: But that's funny.

1109
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was the entire who is your favorite non

1110
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 2: NBA athlete? Is really good? Whoever voted for Kirk Cousins

1111
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: literally said, yeah, he made four hundred million dollars and

1112
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 2: nobody cares if he wins it all. That guy's my favorite.

1113
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: But man, there are so many others receiving votes in

1114
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:31,720
Speaker 2: this one. Somebody voted for Mike James, Kevin Durant, maybe

1115
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: Kevin Love Mike James and brought him to the nets. Yeah,

1116
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: there's an athlete named John Johnson.

1117
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: What who's that?

1118
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 3: Who's the what's theme? He isn't there a guy with

1119
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: a super simple name that's the best pick a ball

1120
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 3: player in the world?

1121
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: Ben ben Jones, Ben Jons.

1122
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 4: That's a simple as name, very simple, exactly.

1123
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 3: Nobody picked Ben John's.

1124
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing Ben Johnson here.

1125
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 3: It's because they didn't ask the rest if they have

1126
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Speaker 3: the rights they want to pick.

1127
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:05,760
Speaker 2: Pick Max Verse Stapping.

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Speaker 3: Oh wow, well, I mean he's dominant. He's dominant. Calla

1129
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: bank Carro not to be mistaken with Patrick Mahomes is

1130
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Speaker 3: a big F one guy.

1131
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: That's a great call. That's a great call. Several F

1132
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: one drivers. I see Lewis Hamilton got votes. Daniel Ricardo,

1133
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: Max Ver Stapping, how could you possibly pick Daniel Riccardo.

1134
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an NBA athlete. I think it's favorite. We're

1135
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: not saying the best NBA someone likes to do a

1136
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: shoey and stuff.

1137
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 2: Probably right, it was Ben Simmons.

1138
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,319
Speaker 3: Great poll there, you know what, I'll throw that in

1139
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 3: the show notes after we're done. Here if you want

1140
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: to go check that out, get yourself a subscription to

1141
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: The Athletic. Go to No dunks dot com slash the Athletic. Nope,

1142
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 3: the Athletic dot com slash no Duncks. I'm fucking mess.

1143
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: Final piece of news, the NBA is seeking a new

1144
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 3: long term television rights deal focusing on streaming, according to

1145
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 3: a new report. The Athletics Andrew Marchin reporting yesterday that

1146
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: the league is holding talks this week with tech giants

1147
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 3: like Amazon as well as legacy media players like NBC

1148
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 3: on a new deal that could, in theory, span a decade.

1149
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: Here.

1150
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 3: Now, there's still talks of sticking with Turner Slash, you know,

1151
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 3: Warner Brothers, Discovery, still sticking with ESPN, Disney and all that,

1152
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,280
Speaker 3: but folding in here this idea of a streamer like Amazon,

1153
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 3: or maybe maybe going back to NBA on NBC when

1154
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 3: we were Team Boppers or what'd you call us when

1155
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: we were watching.

1156
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: I guess you know we had frosted tips. Some did.

1157
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,800
Speaker 1: I didn't tip it frosted tips.

1158
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: That's one of the things I'm surprised hasn't come back yet.

1159
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 2: There see a lot of nineties and two thousand stuff

1160
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: frosted tips up Next, What did you.

1161
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 3: Think of this article here from Andrew March. A lot

1162
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 3: of stuff we've been talking about over the last couple

1163
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:53,720
Speaker 3: of months, but anything jump out.

1164
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: Well.

1165
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: I had flashbacks to the last time they signed one

1166
00:53:57,320 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: and how it was written in very very Finally, just

1167
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:04,959
Speaker 1: a couple of lines about basically the dot com era,

1168
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 1: about having sort of a league pass, you know, front

1169
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: page type thing like with ESPN, be able to get

1170
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: them on their website or app or whatever happened, and

1171
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: now it's happening that the other one is going to

1172
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,200
Speaker 1: be prominent this version, I should say, whether it's Amazon

1173
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: Prime or whoever, it's changing. We're just not watching TV anymore.

1174
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: We need something to be more prominent. That's what kids

1175
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: are watching, the teeny bops are watching. They are watching

1176
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: whatever it is an online app. So the way you

1177
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 1: consume it is different. You mentioned Jamal Crawford. People won't

1178
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 1: want different ways to watch games, different broadcasters to watch games.

1179
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: They watch your Nate Duncan or Danny Laruz, or they

1180
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: could have us, or they could have the conventional broadcast,

1181
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: or they could have somebody you know, twitching at the

1182
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: same time, which has had NBA games on before, so

1183
00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: that's going to be prominent. Somebody has to get in

1184
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: there as a third leg, a third wheel here for sure,

1185
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: rather than just the conventional TV stations that obviously do

1186
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: have apps, you know, ESPN, et cetera. But it ain't

1187
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: the same. So somebody's got to get in big time.

1188
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1189
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,239
Speaker 2: I thought it was pretty interesting that Marchand mentions that

1190
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 2: eventually a pure streamer could have the conference finals or

1191
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 2: the finals. I was pretty surprised, Like, lind your TV,

1192
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: like you got to go to Amazon Prime to watch

1193
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,040
Speaker 2: the finals.

1194
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 3: That seems right, because we're thinking, we're thinking with the

1195
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 3: streamer coming into this being involved in this new deal,

1196
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 3: it'd be maybe the n season tournament maybe, you know,

1197
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,319
Speaker 3: maybe something like that, or it's still a possibility, but yeah,

1198
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 3: he wrote that the ideas they could have significant games

1199
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Speaker 3: like the conference finals, maybe even the NBA Finals at

1200
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 3: some point during it. So maybe it doesn't start year one,

1201
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: but that's like five six years. It's part of the

1202
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 3: deal that they have the possibility of airing on a

1203
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 3: streaming platform like that. Yeah, for sure. I mean we've

1204
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 3: seen Amazon what they did with Thursday Night Football. Obviously,

1205
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 3: It's seen Apple with what they've done with the MLB

1206
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:02,319
Speaker 3: and MLS, where you know they sign these multi year

1207
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 3: deals for these live games. I'm fascinating to see if

1208
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 3: Netflix gets involved still at all in this or they

1209
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 3: sort of not now because you know, they're obviously they

1210
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: signed the huge thing with the WWE, so they're getting

1211
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 3: into live sporting or sporting adjacent whatever. But will they

1212
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,240
Speaker 3: be involved. I would think the NBA wants Netflix involved.

1213
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,960
Speaker 3: That's a thing like how much the NBA I would

1214
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 3: I'm guessing they want it. They want everything they want everywhere. Yeah,

1215
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 3: for money reasons and obviously for eyeball reasons, and a

1216
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 3: platform like Netflix is huge, especially worldwide.

1217
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 2: They want people, well, they want everybody involved in the

1218
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 2: bids to drive the price up, for sure. But also

1219
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: something I took away from that article is that everybody

1220
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 2: wants the tent pole events, and there's very little talk

1221
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 2: about who wants the regular season, the normal games. They

1222
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 2: want the Ist, they want the play in Tournament, All Star,

1223
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 2: all these things that are not regular season games. So yeah,

1224
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 2: I mean, if Netflix wants to pay an exorbitant fee

1225
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 2: to get a Tuesday night game, maybe they will. But

1226
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 2: it seems like Amazon Prime Video and Peacock are most

1227
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 2: likely to be hopping in the mix here. I think

1228
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 2: that's a double edge sod. On one hand, we would

1229
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 2: get roundball rock back, which is cool. But on the

1230
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 2: other hand, imagine Shack's response when Ernie says a game

1231
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: is gonna be on Peacock.

1232
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think of that. Also, did you see

1233
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 3: Charles Barkley beat Kenny Smith of the Big Board.

1234
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: Last yea, yeah, I saw that.

1235
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 3: I can't believe this is the longest running bit in

1236
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: television history.

1237
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 2: I legit.

1238
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 3: Can't believe not only that they still do the race,

1239
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: but they still love it so much. People love it.

1240
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1241
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 3: No, it's like, how long has this been going? It's

1242
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 3: so long.

1243
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 2: Now we need like we need career stats.

1244
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 3: Yeah this point, and we need the ultimate super Like

1245
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 3: the NBA is really good on their YouTube page, like

1246
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: an hour of Steph Curry highlights, like an hour of

1247
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 3: game winners from Jamal Murray, like give me an hour,

1248
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 3: give me ten hours or whatever of the Big Board

1249
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 3: race on the hijinks.

1250
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: Wow, it's nuts. I thought you were done with it,

1251
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: but you want ten hours. That's a lot they have raced.

1252
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 3: They can't tell you They've done this bit for so

1253
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: long that I am starting to slowly come back around

1254
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 3: on it. I went on a rint years ago. I

1255
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 3: was like, what the fuck, how are they still doing this?

1256
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 3: It's not funny. Nobody cares, and I'm back commit to

1257
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 3: the bit you have they have.

1258
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: They added a new camera, right, Yeah, they.

1259
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 3: Got the touch camera on the wall and that's the

1260
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:26,320
Speaker 3: one you're thinking.

1261
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's a close up of the result

1262
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: to show you that.

1263
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. The one they have the camera

1264
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 3: on the side of the big board where you can

1265
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: see like fingertips and stuff.

1266
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: Like that photo finish finish, because that was photography needed.

1267
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I pay for that photo of some I

1268
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: can't believe Barkley sticking in his hand. Yeah, Kenny is

1269
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: Kenny's just too upright, Kenny, you gotta propel yourself.

1270
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 3: Wow.

1271
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 2: Okay, you know.

1272
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 3: But the best thing about the whole thing is when

1273
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 3: Kenny ever does lose, he just always says he didn't

1274
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 3: and has an excuse why he lost because last night

1275
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 3: it was and he has you know, some fair you know,

1276
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 3: maybe whole file agreements. I don't know, but uh, a

1277
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 3: protest that they get up before him, you know, because

1278
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: they got the He has a rule where he's like,

1279
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 3: you can't we can't start before I turn and start.

1280
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: It's too good. But I think, just sorry, going back

1281
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: to the potential contract here, I think what trade brought

1282
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 1: up with the shack saying what's peacock? I mean that

1283
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: is a good that's a good video. It's gonna that

1284
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: that only increases increases some eyeballs.

1285
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 4: That's gonna tip the scale. Yeah, jack is gonna say cock.

1286
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 4: Yeah it wasn't There an NFL game exclusively like a

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00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 4: playoff game, exclusively on Peacock and it was a.

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 3: Huge success by all they like in terms of driving

1289
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 3: people to get it. Then they forget that they have like,

1290
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,479
Speaker 3: you know, never, so they just start paying five ninety

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00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 3: nine a month.

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00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 4: I'm paying it for this stupid Premier League. We only

1293
01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 4: watch it.

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01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:02,360
Speaker 3: On on Peacock.

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01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's it.

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01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 3: But you do have Apple as well for your MLS

1297
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 3: or do you guys not care about the.

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 4: M MLS is dead to us? Yeah we did, we

1299
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 4: did have We did have the MLS. But you know,

1300
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 4: Jackson wasn't watching it.

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01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: Get rid of it. Canada is playing messy here in

1302
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: Atlanta Copa America like two months today, a couple of days. Yeah,

1303
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 1: well what a match. I wonder we'll be able to

1304
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: watch it because I'm not going. I don't think.

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01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 3: What's go.

1306
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: I've got peacock.

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01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 2: I w.

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 3: I went and saw the Brentford Bees playing the Mercedes Bands.

1309
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 3: That was fun.

1310
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was fun.

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01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 4: We'll go this year. I think Rachel just went to

1312
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: this she believes Cup.

1313
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it.

1314
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,080
Speaker 3: Was here too. I mean they're getting a World Cup

1315
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 3: game here.

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01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, like a couple of them. We'll be going to that.

1318
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 3: Too much, too expensive? Oh you know some people though

1319
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 3: that's true.

1320
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 4: I do. Hey, second, we'll get you in there. All right,

1321
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: all rights.

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Speaker 3: Before we go, let's get to tweet of the night.

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01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: Thread over night Wow.

1324
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,919
Speaker 3: Trey Herby with tweeted the Knight.

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:21,160
Speaker 2: This is a tweet for you from Will Celtics two thousand,

1326
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 2: who posted an iPhone note that says NBA players that

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01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:29,080
Speaker 2: are just Tobias Harris derogatory. The league is littered with

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01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 2: Tobias Harris Jesus. So I'm going to ask you. I'm

1329
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: going to read this list and after every name, tell

1330
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 2: me whether or not this player is a Tobias Harris.

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01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 3: Did you want to, like briefly explain that for someone

1332
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 3: that has no idea what you're talking about?

1333
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: Really not particularly, but I would say this making a

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01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: lot of money scores well in the regular season, a

1335
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: lot of question marks after that. Sure, okay, are they

1336
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,440
Speaker 2: worth the money? Can they do it in the playoffs?

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01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: Kelden Johnson, is that a Tobias Harris?

1338
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: That's not bad. I think that's good. He's too young

1339
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: to say he's gonna be that first career.

1340
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, yeah, that's good.

1341
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: I think that's good.

1342
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 3: I mean, we have we ever seen the guy in

1343
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,880
Speaker 3: a postseason tough to say I'm a TVD on him.

1344
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: I think he's a Tobias Harris, like I got overpaid

1345
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: Tim Hardaway Junior.

1346
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

1347
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but yes, Okay, Harry Barnes, I think I

1348
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 2: know those are They're like the Spider Man, the East

1349
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: and Western Conference versions of each other. Brandon ingram N good.

1350
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: It's a little tall starring. No, I can't go that

1351
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,480
Speaker 1: all starring.

1352
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 2: That's a great point. I think he's probably the best

1353
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 2: player on this list. He's more of a Demart Rosen

1354
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: to me, Spencer Dinwitty. Is he a Tobias Harris.

1355
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 3: It's like he's like a level down in a weird

1356
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 3: way to me, Like he's got tendencies for sure, but

1357
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 3: I expect I expect less from Dinwiddie, expect Yeah, DeAndre Hunt,

1358
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 3: that's a good stinks.

1359
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 2: Nnext Tobias Harris. Yeah, coming into his own as a

1360
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 2: Tobia Harris.

1361
01:03:00,520 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 3: Right now he wishes he was Tobias Harris.

1362
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all okay. Jonathan Kamena now little too young,

1363
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 2: too much potential. I would agree with you, Yeah, I

1364
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: would agree with you that seeing him on this list,

1365
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 2: I was like, uh, do we need to watch out

1366
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: for Tobias Harris potential? I suppose we do, yeah.

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01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 3: Because it's not just the postseason sort of shortcomings. It's

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01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: also the idea of, like you can talk yourself into

1369
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 3: a Tobias Harris. You can be like, oh, if that's

1370
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: our third best guy, I mean we're laughing right, which you.

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of franches are forced to do that,

1372
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,440
Speaker 3: and you can again, you can be like this is

1373
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 3: really good. It's a really good third guy. And then

1374
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 3: you can be like, oh, wait, no he's not. Maybe

1375
01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 3: he's well, maybe he's a fifth.

1376
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 2: Or sixth guy. Yeah. So I think another factor is

1377
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 2: is if you don't watch every one of this team's games,

1378
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: you think they're good, and then you dip in and

1379
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: you're there for eighty two games, you're like what, yeah,

1380
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 2: because to that, because it's like you see a fifteen

1381
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: point per game average, you don't realize it's twenty and

1382
01:03:59,200 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 2: one game ten and.

1383
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:06,000
Speaker 3: Tyler Hero get more and more Tobias by the by

1384
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 3: the day.

1385
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 2: I think Tyler Hero is the guard Tobias Harris because

1386
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: I think we had a list of players who are

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01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 2: also Tyler Hero, and now two of them are on

1388
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:14,720
Speaker 2: the heat, Tyler Hero and Terry Rosier.

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01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Nurkic, Ah, I wouldn't have on this list.

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01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 3: It just doesn't seem it's it's not the type of

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01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 3: mold of player we're looking at here, like the bigs

1392
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 3: here I see, yeah, next, that's like I can sort

1393
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: of remove those two guys just because of the positional Okay,

1394
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 3: I'll throw those.

1395
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 2: Three and as the same sort of player. There's Nurkic,

1396
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: there's DeAndre Ayton, and then down near the bottom Nikolovvich right.

1397
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: Who whoever made this thing? It's good, it's extremely well done.

1398
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 1: High expectations don't meet him.

1399
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 3: So who's the poster boy for the bigs? Because Tyler

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01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 3: Hero is the guard, Tobias Harris is the wing.

1401
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: Ayton probably.

1402
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I think he will be right

1403
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,920
Speaker 2: now with a rising Ayton. Uh and then who else

1404
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 2: we got?

1405
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 3: Carrislvert I dare I say this is disrespectful to Karroslivert.

1406
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 2: Get him off.

1407
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I know, I'm looking at what he's done

1408
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,080
Speaker 3: here in this postseas he played really really well. I mean,

1409
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: we didn't talk about him. He had a really good

1410
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 3: game last night. I know it's against the Magic, but

1411
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 3: I take him off.

1412
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 1: Actually, he's having a great playoffs. He's averaging six and

1413
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: a half points.

1414
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 3: I trust him, but I hope trust him more. He

1415
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 3: didn't must have done nothing again, what because he had

1416
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 3: a pretty good.

1417
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 2: First half line.

1418
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:28,479
Speaker 1: I loved him. I loved him with the Brooklyn nets.

1419
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: He might be at Tobias Harris. Now that you mentioned

1420
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 2: that if he started, then it's an issue. Okay, good point,

1421
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 2: But he's playing that's sort of didn't when he's got

1422
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 2: going for him too. But all right, a couple more Kuzna.

1423
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: Not bad. Couz is a champion because the champ. I

1424
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 3: think he's got to be off the list for that

1425
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 3: reason alone. Okay, Harrison, I was about to say Harrison

1426
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:48,480
Speaker 3: Barnes is a champ.

1427
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:52,800
Speaker 2: But yeah, twenty fifteen title D'Angelo Russell, he's a tyler

1428
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 2: herro needs exactly and then yeah, it's he's a level down.

1429
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 3: He's a level down.

1430
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: Great lest Yeah, great LISTA go will thank you, Will.

1431
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 3: Will Celtics two thousand. I'm gonna give you a follow.

1432
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 3: If you got bangers like that, you might get a follow.

1433
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 3: Now do I love the uh the phone app screen

1434
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 3: grab the notes?

1435
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: You don't like it?

1436
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 3: I mean it's always an interesting choice.

1437
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:18,320
Speaker 2: I don't get that part.

1438
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,440
Speaker 3: But hey, do you will? That's great tweet?

1439
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,920
Speaker 1: You spelled Jonathan wrong? Spell it right?

1440
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 3: Maybe that's why he was using a little spell check help.

1441
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 3: I guess you get spell check help on Twitter to

1442
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 3: don't you.

1443
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 2: On the X? Well if you go to grammarly dot com, Hey.

1444
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 4: Grammar dot com, but dispicable me for pays us? I

1445
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 4: don't think so.

1446
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: They might.

1447
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:45,880
Speaker 3: They might us put me in a suit.

1448
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 4: Hey grammarly is paying us before in the past?

1449
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 2: Great product.

1450
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 3: They always come back, always come back because they see

1451
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 3: the results when they're with us.

1452
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 4: They see I thought you said you're gonna say they

1453
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 4: have access to our Oh yeah, so they can see

1454
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 4: we need it.

1455
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,600
Speaker 3: I definitely have grammarly sort of semi still installed on

1456
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 3: my other computer.

1457
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 2: Always warning me that I'm yeah, buddy, all right, let's

1458
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 2: go there.

1459
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 3: Oh god, what a show one to night in the

1460
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: NBA two. It feels like instant classics there, at least

1461
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,919
Speaker 3: in the first round. You're looking at first round series.

1462
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: Those are great, great games. And then we had magic

1463
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 3: Cats as well, but it was what it was. We'll

1464
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 3: be back tomorrow. Three games on tonight, Sun's Wolves on

1465
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 3: TNT seven thirty pm Eastern, then Pacers Bucks on NBA

1466
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,280
Speaker 3: TV at eight thirty. Nice little gap there, and I

1467
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 3: might just I might line up perfectly with halftime, you know,

1468
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 3: it might be good. And then the Clippers say, Kawhi

1469
01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 3: Leonard questionable for game two versus the mass Yeah, that,

1470
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 3: but obviously LA took care of business in game one.

1471
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,080
Speaker 3: Will we see a road team get a victory tonight?

1472
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,240
Speaker 1: Task guarantee guarantee? Yeah?

1473
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:57,080
Speaker 2: Wow?

1474
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: Which one could be any of them?

1475
01:07:59,720 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1476
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 3: Yeahs Kale was going to drop from the seal. Yeah, Okay,

1477
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,040
Speaker 3: and try the same question. Do you think at least

1478
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,320
Speaker 3: one road team wins tonight? Yes, okay, I'm with you, guys,

1479
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 3: I'm with you. What we got to be Phoenix, Indiana

1480
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 3: or Dallas?

1481
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:12,920
Speaker 2: One of those?

1482
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 3: I think I think Dallas is a more confident that

1483
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 3: Dallas has a really big.

1484
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 2: Bounce back game.

1485
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the Pacers are disrespected. That's probably not that.

1486
01:08:29,240 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 3: We'll find out tonight, and we will be here tomorrow

1487
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 3: morning to break it all down. We'll see you at

1488
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,440
Speaker 3: ten am Eastern live on YouTube. Until then, Clover.

1489
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 2: Rose, you heard it here first.

1490
01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 3: Have a great time, turn up.

1491
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: Love you guys, awesome, thanks for joining us, and remember

1492
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: you kind of hinted at the fact on TNT broadcast

1493
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: yesterday Charles Barkley had to eat some kale salad? Did

1494
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 1: he eat kale? What I want to say was sucked

1495
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 1: back some nut dust on Friday show. If you haven't

1496
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: seen that, yeah, I suck some some seasoning from now.

1497
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 3: If you imagine what's shack of you saying to that?

1498
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did it. We handled it.

1499
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 1: We handled it extremely well, and I'm totally glad I

1500
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:07,280
Speaker 1: didn't have to handle kale.

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01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 3: You'd rather I would choke us.

1502
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I would choke on a kale spine. I

1503
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: mean that'stuff. That stuff is hard having having nightmares right now.

1504
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 4: Kenny was like, I.

1505
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 3: Can't I couldn't tell he was fake eating it. He

1506
01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 3: was grabbing fistfuls of the salad that they dropped and

1507
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 3: just pretending to at least chomp on it. I can

1508
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,519
Speaker 3: eat one piece. It was more than just kale.

1509
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: I think there was some other some softies, yeah, remains.

1510
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 2: They were dropping kale because it was Earth Day? Am

1511
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 2: I right?

1512
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

1513
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I definitely saw. At one point he's like,

1514
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: we got greens here, it's Earth Day. Yeah, he was

1515
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 2: wearing a green jacket.

1516
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Kenny was You're right, You're right, Kenny won

1517
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 3: the Masters j You know somebody here, ask somebody. Yeah,

1518
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: we'll find out.

1519
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 4: We'll have that. Say thanks, I'll inquire about the kale

1520
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:54,960
Speaker 4: race today.

1521
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 2: People