WEBVTT - Handling the Sass with Molly Sims

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, wind Down listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>So this episode with Molly Sims was tape before the fires,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have seen the devastation the fires have caused

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<v Speaker 2>Molly's community, and we are praying for Molly and her family,

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<v Speaker 2>her community and everyone that has been affected by the

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<v Speaker 2>fires in LA. And again, thank you to the first

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<v Speaker 2>responders and to everyone who has helped pick up the

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<v Speaker 2>pieces during this difficult time. Here's the episode for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Week, wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's really cool about doing this podcast is

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<v Speaker 2>that we get to talk to I mean, obviously we

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<v Speaker 2>have some amazing guests, but it's always really fun when

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<v Speaker 2>you see a rundown that's like Matthew McConaughey, or like

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<v Speaker 2>Jada Pinkett or Molly Sim that this one was good.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she's a model, Yeah, she's a mom. She's got

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<v Speaker 2>a new podcast that's out called Lipstick on the Rim.

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<v Speaker 2>And sometimes all they want to come on wind out yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or I get you. I get super with the US, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I get I get super like kind of giddy and excited,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'm like, put for real, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>it's just going to show up.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you going to do it?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but it's just it's really it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's just great. She's an actress, she's all the things,

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<v Speaker 2>she's a mom. She's killing it. So I'm excited to

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<v Speaker 2>get her on and she's actually like this is also cool.

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<v Speaker 2>She's here on time right, ready to come on. Like

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<v Speaker 2>if I was Molly's times, I'd be like, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be ten minutes late.

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<v Speaker 3>But you wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wouldn't at all.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not true.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's and I've just got to stop there because

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<v Speaker 4>there are plenty of Matthew McConaughey was on time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry if you're you know, you can be on time.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, exactly, And I'm we are always on time. It's

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<v Speaker 2>one of the things that I will never Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 2>hating late, which is something I had to have a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with Alan about because he's always late. Oh is he?

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<v Speaker 2>I know?

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<v Speaker 3>He's slow always?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, slow and late. Ah. And it happened one night

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<v Speaker 2>on a date night where we had to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>traffic with Nashville too, so it was one of those

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<v Speaker 2>things where we had to leave by a certain time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we ended up I'm like, Okay, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to get upset at him because I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>ruin date night, but I also need him to know

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<v Speaker 2>that this now feels like a little disrespectful too to

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<v Speaker 2>always be late. And so he had to like change

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<v Speaker 2>his out fit ten times. And I'm just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so she's like, you know, like this Jack, that was

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<v Speaker 2>like fine. So I was like, hey, I just this

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<v Speaker 2>is what's coming up for me right now, Like can

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<v Speaker 2>you just it's important to me when you're on time,

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<v Speaker 2>like it feels like you respect what we're doing, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then it was awful. The Uber driver

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<v Speaker 2>we just got we extended our driveway a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and so Alan was really proud of like this new

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<v Speaker 2>grass that he like put in on the side. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>the Uber driver decided to to do like a hole.

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<v Speaker 2>He turned wow, completely messed up the grass. And so

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<v Speaker 2>then Alan's like, man, you messed up, you know, like

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<v Speaker 2>say something or sorry or something. And in the Uber's

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<v Speaker 2>driver was like, I don't want to drive you guys anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>So we left, which made us then like, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>we missed our reservation. It was like the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>wait what yeah, because and I was just like, sir,

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<v Speaker 2>all you had to just say was acknowledged that you

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<v Speaker 2>messed up the ground like you. I mean, he it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just like a little like he completely like messed

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<v Speaker 2>it up.

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<v Speaker 3>And Alan's like I need the sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, he was just like, sir, like why did

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<v Speaker 2>you do that? You know? And he's like ahead, and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, you didn't have to do that. Like everyone

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<v Speaker 2>just goes up and then down. I didn't. You didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to go all around. So they kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>like you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And he left you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like I'm not going to drive you

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<v Speaker 2>guys anymore. And I'm like, sir, I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>just wanting just for you to acknowledge what happened, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and he left. Oh and you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like you can't get ubers no, like did you

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<v Speaker 2>even go We ended up driving, But you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just one of those things where it was just like anyways.

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<v Speaker 3>It was fine, but you know, yeah, that's that sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, how did we get on? She's waiting this entire time? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go. No, she really wasn't. It was just her

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<v Speaker 2>people in the waiting room. Now she's here, so let's

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<v Speaker 2>take a break and let's get her on. Can we

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<v Speaker 2>just hop right into it? Because I have also have

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<v Speaker 2>we both have nine year old daughters. She's got three,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got three. You've got three, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I have three?

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<v Speaker 2>What are the ages again?

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<v Speaker 1>So Gray is seven, he's in second grade.

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<v Speaker 5>He's my little like just chunky, just you want to

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<v Speaker 5>squeeze him. And then Scarlett she's nine, she's in fourth grade.

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<v Speaker 5>And then Brooks is sixth grade, just got a perm

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<v Speaker 5>and he's just you know, your firstborn, lovable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I have a My daughter is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be nine in January. My son is six. And then

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<v Speaker 2>I have a son who's thirteen months I know, And

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, I had the baby at forty and

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<v Speaker 2>I've been talking and she's also got three years year old.

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<v Speaker 4>You mind are a little older. I have fifteen, almost thirteen,

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<v Speaker 4>and almost nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so but I'll say I'll the nine year old

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<v Speaker 2>girl though, because you know, she's my oldest. And I'm like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the sass is already coming in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it's called the tude, the attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel sometimes I'm like I don't understand what

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<v Speaker 2>the like, I'm like, what am I doing wrong, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, we're just not We're not like seeing

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<v Speaker 2>eye to eye. I'm like, is this does it get worse?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I'm like, she's just going to be turning nine.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I got the opportunity. You guys should

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<v Speaker 1>have her on.

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<v Speaker 5>Her name is Eliza Pressman, and she has an incredible

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<v Speaker 5>podcast called Raising Good Humans, and she has a book

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<v Speaker 5>that came out this past year called The Five Principles

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<v Speaker 5>of Parenting. And we were speaking yesterday. I work with

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<v Speaker 5>her and her partner braun Win. We were speaking yesterday

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<v Speaker 5>that a lot of parenting is listening. Is just listening.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not all of it, but it's she breaks it

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<v Speaker 5>down really well, it's like responding, reflecting, repair.

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<v Speaker 1>Rules.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, I can't think of what it was,

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<v Speaker 5>but it was so interesting because she said a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of it gets difficult, and a lot of it your

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<v Speaker 5>job is to just listen and don't react. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 5>because they're not necessarily coming to you and giving you

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<v Speaker 5>the tude for you to react, they just it's almost

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<v Speaker 5>like you're a sounding board but you're not allowed to speak.

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<v Speaker 3>That is so hard.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think the hardest thing too, is my daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>She wants to talk the most, like when I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>her into bed, which I always think is like a

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<v Speaker 2>delay tactic, and I want to sit there and but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm exhausted by the end of the night,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like chasing around, you know, the one year

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<v Speaker 2>old and just like in them work, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like, and I know that I need to

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<v Speaker 2>change that. I need to just sit there and let

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<v Speaker 2>her tell me all the stories because one day she's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to want to tell me all the stories,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But it's just it's I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the piece of mother like that I need to do

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<v Speaker 2>better at because I'm just I'm exhausted. Then I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>and then I feel like she's just doing it to

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<v Speaker 2>stall to not go to bed, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably I'm like.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a good chance that that could be what what

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<v Speaker 4>she's doing. But it's hard to just listen and not

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<v Speaker 4>want to, especially like that middle school girl age, Like

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<v Speaker 4>how do you just listen to all the drama and

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<v Speaker 4>not like tell them how to fix it or what

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<v Speaker 4>to do? Like that part is very hard, but I

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<v Speaker 4>am learning it goes a long way if you just listen.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we spoke about that yesterday. She was just like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know a lot of it. You know, sometimes the

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<v Speaker 5>moms will get involved, but the the lesson here is

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<v Speaker 5>to try to let them navigate it, figure it out,

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<v Speaker 5>because you're not going to get invited to every part.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to get you know, you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 5>Get dumped, like all the lessons that are so hard

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<v Speaker 5>that you have to let them.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>Again, I'm only in sixth grade, so I'm like dying

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<v Speaker 5>at this advice.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was really.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, where do you where do you think

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<v Speaker 2>you excel as a mom? And then where do you

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<v Speaker 2>think You're? Like, I feel like I need to I

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<v Speaker 2>need to do better at that.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they know that I love them, They know

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<v Speaker 5>I we mom fucking hard, like my mom, my husband, mom,

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<v Speaker 5>my husband. Dad's like, you know, uh, we're pretty good

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<v Speaker 5>with structure.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a compliment from one of my heads of

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<v Speaker 5>school this morning. You know, I my worst fear is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, having kids and raising them in LA is

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<v Speaker 5>for them to be douchey and disrespectful. And we definitely

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<v Speaker 5>hold the line with Boudes. I try to be an

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<v Speaker 5>extension of the school and they try to be an

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<v Speaker 5>extension right back.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Being grateful, being respective, I think we've kind of started

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<v Speaker 5>to nail that into them since birth, hammered in just

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<v Speaker 5>like as much as you can. I think we excel

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<v Speaker 5>in that way that they're very lucky that they are,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, wonderful children. But at the same time, there

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<v Speaker 5>are boundaries, there is structure, and there's consequences, right I

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<v Speaker 5>think where you know, the wheels can come off right

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<v Speaker 5>when everything just goes to shit and you're like, why

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<v Speaker 5>am I screaming at you? You know, we're saying like

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<v Speaker 5>what your mom said to you, Like I'm just telling

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<v Speaker 5>you to do it, Like what just I'm doing it

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<v Speaker 5>because I'm telling you as opposed to like really giving

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<v Speaker 5>them a reason, sitting them down, taking that moment I

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<v Speaker 5>can I can improve on, just like when I've had

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<v Speaker 5>enough and I just lose my ship.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like every mom can relate to that too.

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<v Speaker 2>I Mean, I feel like there's so many times when

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'll call one of you girls and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's it's just like oh that, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>happened to me yesterday, and I'm like, okay, good, So

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<v Speaker 2>like that's that's a normal thing like we It's it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard sometimes, you know, and we have our explosions, but

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<v Speaker 2>that's also how we come back from it and say sorry, mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>she just do you know why mommy was upset is

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<v Speaker 2>because you just lost your third glasses, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like I.

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<v Speaker 5>Went totally off on her over the water bottle, and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, I bought you the goat water bottle.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty five dollars water bottle, all.

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<v Speaker 5>The goats on them. It's like Grace of all times

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<v Speaker 5>is a lacrosse bottle. It's like twenty five dollars. It's

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<v Speaker 5>like expensive, and I normally don't do it because they lose.

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<v Speaker 1>The water bottle. And I'm like, you can had it.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't take it. I can't take it.

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<v Speaker 2>Put it back where it well, I'm pretty sure she

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<v Speaker 2>was No.

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<v Speaker 1>I put it in the bag. I swear to god.

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<v Speaker 1>I put in the bag. Money.

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<v Speaker 5>Andy and I were like going through like tons and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>The water bottles there. No. I was like, the world

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<v Speaker 1>the worst worse.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>I had but oughta remind me of something I said

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<v Speaker 4>to her the other day that I should not have said.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm not going to repeat it because I feel

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<v Speaker 4>really guilty about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, please help you make us feel better.

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<v Speaker 3>She brings it up on the daily.

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<v Speaker 4>I've obviously apologized, so she knows that she can bring

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<v Speaker 4>it up. But I'm like, why are you torturing me

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<v Speaker 4>reminding me daily of what I said that I should

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<v Speaker 4>have said. No torture, torture, It's awful. Okay, So what

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<v Speaker 4>are your kids into sports? Because I mean you do

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<v Speaker 4>it all obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're very.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so what are they into?

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<v Speaker 1>So lacrosse?

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<v Speaker 5>My girl does lacrosse and she rides. She's equestrian. She

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<v Speaker 5>rides horses, which, by the way, you have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>We're only going to last a couple more year. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run out of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my daughter has been begging for a horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's what everyone tells me.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband's like, you know, he was like don't He's like, babe, no,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, but so, I just say when you're thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about it when you're thirteen. Well, talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it when you're thirteen. But she loves riding horses like

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<v Speaker 2>she loves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys know.

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<v Speaker 5>Marry Kitchen Mary Kitchen she's amazing. She's a woman here

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<v Speaker 5>in LA that I'm very close to, and she has

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<v Speaker 5>three little girls, fabulous by the you want to wear

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<v Speaker 5>their wardrobe, and she's fabulous. And so she was like,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I ride and she's like, I'm really getting

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<v Speaker 5>the girls.

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<v Speaker 1>This is in preschool.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, She's like, you got to come to this little

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<v Speaker 5>like pony camp. And sure enough I took her to

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<v Speaker 5>the pony camp and she loved it. And so I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>just ride up here at Sullivan Canyon just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and she ended up loving it.

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<v Speaker 1>They ended up quitting. I'm like, I don't even ride.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no one from Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 5>But like, anyway, so she does a questrian, they all

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<v Speaker 5>do lacrosse, and a couple of.

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<v Speaker 1>Them do soccer. But we're very active. I'm hoping.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it sounds like a little controversial, but I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not gonna one sport a child just because I feel

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<v Speaker 5>like their development and all these coaches and clubs and

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<v Speaker 5>you know, they almost make it impossible for the for

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<v Speaker 5>the kids to have more than one sport. And I

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<v Speaker 5>just don't believe in that. I don't they haven't gone

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<v Speaker 5>through puberty.

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<v Speaker 1>And they don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't know where you're going to be in three years,

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<v Speaker 5>and I you know, it's that's something that I've learned

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<v Speaker 5>to be very boundaried with coaches and teams of we're

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<v Speaker 5>doing the best we can if you'd like us to

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<v Speaker 5>be on the team. We are not a one sport

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<v Speaker 5>family like that's something like as a as a third

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<v Speaker 5>child coming in, I've gotten my armor on because I truly,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I need them to play something in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care what.

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<v Speaker 5>So I've started with five. Now we're narrowing it down,

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<v Speaker 5>which is really hard. But I think it's an investment

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<v Speaker 5>into them not being on the phone and not being

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<v Speaker 5>bored and having something that.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to be a part of and that can

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<v Speaker 1>be a.

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<v Speaker 5>Single sport, that can be a team sport that just

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<v Speaker 5>they have to do something.

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<v Speaker 2>What are is going to be your boundary with social media?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I say this because my kids don't even

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<v Speaker 5>have phones. I've spoken, you know. I got to speak

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<v Speaker 5>to Jonathan Haye, who wrote the Conversations of an Anxious Generation,

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<v Speaker 5>who is incredible. I got to speak to Eliza, I

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<v Speaker 5>get to speak to a lot of incredible developmental psychologists.

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<v Speaker 5>Family you know, really great people have wonderful advice.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to have a phone. You know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to have a phone.

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<v Speaker 2>When do you think you'll give the phone?

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<v Speaker 5>Probably eighth grade, you know, seven, he wants it, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>when he graduates out of six.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think a group of.

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<v Speaker 5>Us, listen, I'm really you know, happy that the schools,

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<v Speaker 5>especially in California, have come together. There's a no there's

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<v Speaker 5>a no phone policy now, which I really think makes

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<v Speaker 5>our life easier, in the teacher's life easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Because then it's not like you're like because the kids

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<v Speaker 2>get mad, they'll get mad at you and the parents

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<v Speaker 2>as a post can cat our schools do that.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, my kids are older and already have them.

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<v Speaker 4>But I would have done anything for someone to stand

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<v Speaker 4>with me and say.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not doing I won't say to high school, but

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<v Speaker 5>I learned one high school yesterday in the Valley decided

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<v Speaker 5>that no, they were gonna like they were going to

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<v Speaker 5>let the kids have the phones in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't.

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<v Speaker 5>They were like, they're going to be on it more after.

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<v Speaker 5>So it was just like it was so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Because you're active on social media. Yeah, sorry, but like

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like it's hard because it's like I have

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<v Speaker 2>that same thing with my daughter. I mean, she's way

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<v Speaker 2>too young. I'm not to give her obviously a phone

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<v Speaker 2>or social media, like I'm I'm trying to hold out

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<v Speaker 2>until high school hopefully, like yeah, seventh or eighth. But

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I she's always like, well, mom, you're

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<v Speaker 2>on social media. I'm like, yeah, behind, it's my work,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's my job. Like I don't want to be,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, You're an adult and you

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<v Speaker 1>have you can regulate, you know. I think listen, all

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<v Speaker 1>kids are different.

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<v Speaker 5>You know Brooks, if I gave Brooks a phone today,

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<v Speaker 5>he would be so addicted, right he is social he

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<v Speaker 5>maybe not because he has an iPad and I see

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<v Speaker 5>he doesn't even respond, So maybe he's and he's always

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<v Speaker 5>too busy. But just within their personalities, he's he loves YouTube,

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<v Speaker 5>he loves watching every basketball every like I just know

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<v Speaker 5>him Scarlet.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know Gray.

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<v Speaker 5>He has no I mean, he wants a phone, but

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<v Speaker 5>he only wants a phone because everybody else wants a phone,

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<v Speaker 5>like he doesn't it. But I do think it depends

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<v Speaker 5>on the timperment of your child. You know, how is

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<v Speaker 5>there executive functioning? How is there you know? And a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of it if you're divorced, I mean a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of it is is not just that you you want

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<v Speaker 5>to give it, You have to get it, you have

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<v Speaker 5>to somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to stop texting my ex husband being like,

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<v Speaker 2>can I talk to the kids please? Like I'd like

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<v Speaker 2>to just straight up call jolly, which is probably why

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<v Speaker 2>they'll get it earlier, Like I get it for sports

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that that you know, But that's another

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<v Speaker 2>reason why I'm like, she might get it earlier because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to keep texting him.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, which is which is understandably and you also, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, depending on your help situation, just getting a

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<v Speaker 5>hold of the child.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, it doesn't necessarily have to be an iPhone.

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<v Speaker 5>You can have a phone that doesn't have social media

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<v Speaker 5>that you can you know, they can communicate, because it does,

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<v Speaker 5>especially in divorce, can be you know, really tricky and

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<v Speaker 5>then it can even cause more issues for the child.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we move on to skincare because you obviously have

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<v Speaker 2>your podcast Lipstick on the Rim, and I just I

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<v Speaker 2>need to know what you do skincare wise, because I

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<v Speaker 2>stopped botox last year because I had a bad reaction

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<v Speaker 2>and I haven't done it since last June, and so

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<v Speaker 2>and I really I really don't want to again. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also you know, I'm in my forties, and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't do it a lot anyways, Like I would do

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<v Speaker 2>it like every like five months maybe or every six months.

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<v Speaker 2>But do you do botox?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's I only do botox, Okay, I do it

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<v Speaker 5>kind of like you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm desperate need to get both.

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<v Speaker 2>Talks well, because that's saying I'm getting to the point

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<v Speaker 2>where I'm like I'm starting to see them just like oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I know there's nothing left in the space.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to though, but then anyways, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I just think she's like I do.

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<v Speaker 5>I just think you have to be careful judging yourself,

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<v Speaker 5>like you know, kind of lead with kindness in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of that way, like you know, if you maybe instead

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<v Speaker 5>of going three months, go seven months if you want

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<v Speaker 5>to do you know, and you can also you have

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<v Speaker 5>a reason to be scared. You had a bad reaction, right,

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<v Speaker 5>So you know, a friend of mine had that happen

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<v Speaker 5>and it really put her off.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she finally got over and she's like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the was I doing well?

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<v Speaker 2>Because the wrinkles?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was I thinking?

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<v Speaker 5>So I have a skincare company we launched about eighteen

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<v Speaker 5>months ago called Wise Beauty Y se Beauty, and I

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<v Speaker 5>had real issues with my skin. I had my last

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<v Speaker 5>baby at forty four. I had my first baby at

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<v Speaker 5>thirty nine. I was like, back to back to back,

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<v Speaker 5>forty four, forty five, I'm fifty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice, So you give me hope to have another one.

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<v Speaker 2>My husband's like no, but I'm like, come on, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>forty one. I can do it. Yes, of course you can,

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<v Speaker 2>because I really want one more.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and go to doctor Ging if you live in

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<v Speaker 5>La doctor Jing. The begs acupuma muxtuious, awful dirt that

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<v Speaker 5>you will fellow horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>She's amazing. I actually saw her this morning. Not to

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<v Speaker 1>have a baby.

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<v Speaker 5>But I had really bad cystic acony starting in my

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<v Speaker 5>late twenties, and I thought, okay, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>I've you know, I've grown up.

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<v Speaker 5>But with that I ended up trading to be hyper

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<v Speaker 5>pigmentation milasma and I kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Got I have terrible malasma.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, oh I know, I see it.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I didn't mean it like that. I just

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<v Speaker 1>I can't see it.

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<v Speaker 5>I meant like it just came out with don't whether

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<v Speaker 5>it's gun or age or hormones or a mixture of

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<v Speaker 5>all three. Mine was really bad because I was kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like you, the girl who goes no makeup makeup,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, kind of lead with the skin until you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I first tried a product called high.

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<v Speaker 5>Your quanone, which is a really strong active that you get.

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<v Speaker 1>It lightens his skin.

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<v Speaker 2>I do that every day? Is not Should I not

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<v Speaker 2>be doing that? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>No, you should not.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, Why I've literally been doing it the last year,

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<v Speaker 2>every day, twice a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's probably one of the worst things you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Why but it has like lightened it though I know

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<v Speaker 2>sure absolutely? Why is it bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Why did she give it to me?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did my doctor give it to me if it

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<v Speaker 2>was bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Does she know you've been on it a year?

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<v Speaker 5>Because see, mine didn't realize that I had been abusing

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<v Speaker 5>it off and on for many years. You're only supposed

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<v Speaker 5>to be on it for about three months. Oh, the

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<v Speaker 5>problem is it's fine while you're using it. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>you are a little bit red A lot dry. So

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<v Speaker 5>you're going to trade a lot of things for you know,

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<v Speaker 5>other things. But what ends up happening, and again it

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<v Speaker 5>may not happen to you. But once I stopped using it,

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<v Speaker 5>the moment I went outside and got any tinge of sun, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Got worse than even before.

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<v Speaker 5>And this went on from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>to twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>And the more like.

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<v Speaker 5>Kind of the harsher I was whether I did. I

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<v Speaker 5>did a cold laser with oreon. In fifteen, I did

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<v Speaker 5>a couple peals.

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<v Speaker 1>The harsher. The harsher it is.

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<v Speaker 5>The backlash is so bad I can't even tell you.

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<v Speaker 5>So in twenty nineteen I stopped everything again. I would

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<v Speaker 5>I would have even skin until I wouldn't, and then

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<v Speaker 5>I would go out and it would pop up in

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<v Speaker 5>the sun. It would be like patchy and just like

0:22:50.200 --> 0:22:55.479
<v Speaker 5>I looked dirty. But out of that I my husband

0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.119
<v Speaker 5>said one day that I had a little dirt on

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<v Speaker 5>my face in twenty nineteen and I could not talking

0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:03.720
<v Speaker 5>to I would take these little pods of Matt kincealer,

0:23:04.240 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 5>they still have them. They've been around for one hundred years,

0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.040
<v Speaker 5>and I would kind of just patch it up so

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<v Speaker 5>I wouldn't have to wear like a full face of foundation.

0:23:11.880 --> 0:23:13.920
<v Speaker 2>I do that every day to cover my malasma because

0:23:13.920 --> 0:23:15.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't like wearing makeup. But i'd just patch it

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<v Speaker 2>my malasma.

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<v Speaker 1>Pack it up.

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<v Speaker 5>So then and then I would take like a wet

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<v Speaker 5>sponge and like dip a little tinted moisturizer and i'd

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:25.880
<v Speaker 5>kind of like just dotted on to have like.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of some glow. But I ended up

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<v Speaker 1>stopping all of it, and.

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't really kind of realize what I was doing.

0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I just sort of did it.

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<v Speaker 5>I started with a product called that I totally abused

0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:46.360
<v Speaker 5>biology Gresearch Peet fifteen, nineteen seventy. And then I went

0:23:46.400 --> 0:23:49.640
<v Speaker 5>to an ice ice clinical product, then to a skin

0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.880
<v Speaker 5>food would lead it, which is a really thick moisturizer

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 5>you get a whole foods, and then I would do glytone,

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 5>and I ended up having like fifteen products. And what

0:23:58.680 --> 0:24:03.399
<v Speaker 5>I would do is I would exfoliate, and then I

0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:07.439
<v Speaker 5>would hydrate push put everything back in, and then I

0:24:07.440 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 5>would exfoliate and then I would brighten and then I

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:12.880
<v Speaker 5>would put everything back in. And what I didn't realize

0:24:13.040 --> 0:24:17.000
<v Speaker 5>I was doing was actually a system and within about

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<v Speaker 5>and I went cold Turkey dry on hydrophenone, and in

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<v Speaker 5>about six months, I'm like, I started getting compliments on

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:26.480
<v Speaker 5>my skin.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I know, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>And then cut to twenty twenty, I was actually trying

0:24:33.280 --> 0:24:37.000
<v Speaker 5>to switch managers, which I wanted to. Didn't know that

0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to go and sit in a trailer. I

0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 5>had three young babies. My husband's in the entertainment industry

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<v Speaker 5>as well. We can't both be gone at the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was trying to say, faking relevant like a cat,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, just to like have another life, right, And

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:59.439
<v Speaker 5>I really always wanted to do something, whether it be branding, producing,

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<v Speaker 5>just to to be a part of something from the beginning,

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<v Speaker 5>from the inception, as opposed to, you know, just holding

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<v Speaker 5>the glass or the product at the very end, which

0:25:09.720 --> 0:25:12.480
<v Speaker 5>is nothing wrong with it, but you know, after.

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Twenty it served you well for many early.

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me? I work with so many brands

0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.080
<v Speaker 1>and I love it. It just had to have more.

0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 2>You wanted something that was your own, that you could hold,

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 2>that you could have the power and the y'all.

0:25:23.359 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>And so.

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<v Speaker 5>Out of that, you know, I'm a manager, and she

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:33.639
<v Speaker 5>was this incredible management manager, here in La called Nicole

0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:34.360
<v Speaker 5>King Silocas.

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<v Speaker 1>She's with Lynden Entertainment, and.

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<v Speaker 5>She was like, yeah, I'll think about taking you, but

0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:41.000
<v Speaker 5>you're going to need a five year plan.

0:25:41.320 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what do you mean You're not going to

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:46.080
<v Speaker 1>take me? What's wrong with you? And she's like, no,

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to need more of it.

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:49.160
<v Speaker 5>She's like, I looked at I look at you guys,

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.919
<v Speaker 5>not just as an actor or an actor actress, but

0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 5>I look at you as you know, a whole three

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:54.760
<v Speaker 5>sixty you like what?

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh my god. En an upstanding

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:58.679
<v Speaker 1>next to a woman Kim.

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<v Speaker 5>Kruzberger, who had an incredible company called Pivot Projects, and

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:05.800
<v Speaker 5>she had just left Goop and I'm like, what are

0:26:05.800 --> 0:26:08.199
<v Speaker 5>you doing now? And she was like, oh, I'm consulting

0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:11.800
<v Speaker 5>with brands and with people on trying to figure out

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:12.680
<v Speaker 5>what they want to do next.

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I am your client.

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<v Speaker 5>So at this kitchen table four years ago, she came

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 5>with another woman, Danielle Pergrimont, and they went through everything

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.960
<v Speaker 5>of my life. They went through mollisims dot com, they

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:28.840
<v Speaker 5>went through my TikTok, they went through.

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:31.120
<v Speaker 1>They went through.

0:26:31.359 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 5>Everything, and they're like, why is this over here. This

0:26:37.560 --> 0:26:41.360
<v Speaker 5>is not relate over here, you're you know. And out

0:26:41.400 --> 0:26:44.280
<v Speaker 5>of that came wise and came lipstick on the rim,

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<v Speaker 5>believe it or not. And yeah, we ended up working

0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:54.680
<v Speaker 5>with a manufacturer and we launched eighteen months ago and

0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.040
<v Speaker 5>it is a brightening.

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<v Speaker 1>Ritual.

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<v Speaker 5>Routines stem for hyper pigmentation to not get into the circle.

0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 5>We have your favorite X pads, their ex boyfriend pads,

0:27:08.320 --> 0:27:12.320
<v Speaker 5>that's what they're called. And then we have a morning cocktail.

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.879
<v Speaker 5>We have a very famous skin glow SPF thirty, and

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:18.680
<v Speaker 5>then we have our problem solver. Our last call are

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 5>extremely rich and it's we've gotten fifteen awards and fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>months and it's grown faster than ever. I never knew

0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:34.320
<v Speaker 5>a company could grow so fast. It's been pretty scary.

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Congrats, that's awesome.

0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 1>For anybody listening.

0:27:37.840 --> 0:27:41.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well for me, I'm like, also, I'm like, I'm

0:27:41.119 --> 0:27:43.160
<v Speaker 2>like on the website right now because I'm like, I'm

0:27:43.160 --> 0:27:44.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna have to ditch the hydroqernon.

0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.040
<v Speaker 5>I am really sorry. We've been really small. We had

0:27:47.040 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 5>no idea our supply chain would be so freaking crazy. Yeah,

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:54.439
<v Speaker 5>it was the first time Monday before Black Friday, that

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:56.720
<v Speaker 5>I've actually had all my products in stock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, great, well I'm going to be ordering. I'm very excited.

0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:04.359
<v Speaker 2>But besides that, though, let's just talk about your podcast too.

0:28:04.760 --> 0:28:08.439
<v Speaker 2>Lipstick on the Rim. What can listeners? You know what?

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 2>What's kind of like give the elevator pitch of the podcast.

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.879
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, it's Emmisha kind of like you guys,

0:28:13.960 --> 0:28:14.919
<v Speaker 5>it's my best friend.

0:28:15.520 --> 0:28:17.440
<v Speaker 1>She lives in Jersey, she has three kids.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 5>It's basically came from a morning meeting that all my girlfriends.

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 5>We were in Cabo on a trip, and we'd all

0:28:25.760 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 5>come downstairs and we'd be like, oh do you have this?

0:28:28.320 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 5>You need this? Oh my god, I'm i fucking hate him.

0:28:30.800 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 5>I'm divorcing him.

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Like, you know, go see this person had those conversations.

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:36.600
<v Speaker 1>Go see this person.

0:28:37.760 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 5>It's you know, having a sneak peek into a conversation

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:45.560
<v Speaker 5>with your best friend, but at the same time answering

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 5>a question that you didn't know. So we have everyone

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 5>from plastic surgeons to doctors, to enter chronologists to the

0:28:55.920 --> 0:29:01.240
<v Speaker 5>subject of ozimbic. Our obsession with beauty and you know

0:29:01.320 --> 0:29:06.200
<v Speaker 5>everything we're buying, loving have to have it really does

0:29:06.280 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 5>kind of run the gamut between beauty, fashion and wellness.

0:29:11.240 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 5>I've always my mom was a big you know, my

0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:16.240
<v Speaker 5>brand is named after my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Wise to look to know a little bit more than

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you knew before, and with lipstick on the rim.

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:33.240
<v Speaker 5>I I have always been a non gatekeeper, and I'm

0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:37.040
<v Speaker 5>sure it's better now. But before, if I would say

0:29:37.040 --> 0:29:39.760
<v Speaker 5>to an actress or she would ask me, oh my god,

0:29:39.880 --> 0:29:40.960
<v Speaker 5>what are you doing, I'd be like.

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I've starved for six days.

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 5>I've gotten botox, I've gotten X, Y and Z, I've

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 5>done this. And then when I would ask, they would

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:53.040
<v Speaker 5>be like, oh no, I just drink a lot of

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:54.880
<v Speaker 5>water and you know, get a lot of sleep.

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:57.280
<v Speaker 1>There was and I was like, really, that that's what

0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:58.840
<v Speaker 1>your that's what you do it.

0:29:59.160 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 5>So that really is the place of lipstick on the

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.920
<v Speaker 5>ring on the rim. And you know, it's non gate keeping.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:10.720
<v Speaker 5>It's you know, not necessarily spilling your entire life, but

0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 5>being vulnerable, but being very transparent on what we do,

0:30:13.840 --> 0:30:16.680
<v Speaker 5>how we do it, whether it's as best friends or

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.640
<v Speaker 5>moms or friends and just really having this community. It's

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 5>being a mom, it's being it's being you know, as

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 5>honest and truthful as we can on what we do

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.440
<v Speaker 5>and how to make ourselves look better. I mean we

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 5>had this, we had Dan Brutner on from the Blue

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 5>Zone Diet. I mean we'll have every like nutritionous, like

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 5>you know, how to gain muscle, how to lose my like,

0:30:40.600 --> 0:30:41.760
<v Speaker 5>we'll just come.

0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 1>But it's fun, you know.

0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:49.120
<v Speaker 5>I have to say, I uh, I didn't really want

0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 5>to do it.

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm like, who's who does podcast?

0:30:52.560 --> 0:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>So many plates, you know, but this was four years ago,

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>right when no one was really doing.

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 5>Podcasts and like a podcast, who's gonna listen to this

0:31:00.680 --> 0:31:03.880
<v Speaker 5>on a podcast? But it's like, you guys, it's really

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 5>fun and I actually I actually learn I mean, uh,

0:31:08.720 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 5>I learned stuff all day long, which is kind of

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 5>I get to go back to school with my guests.

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:17.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, I mean I love that too. I feel

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:18.719
<v Speaker 2>like it's one of those things where it's like not

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 2>only do we learn you know, things about beauty from

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 2>amazing guests like you and you know, just life stuff,

0:31:23.640 --> 0:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>but also it's I think it's that relation too, of

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>relating like Okay, here's another you know, kick ass mom

0:31:28.920 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 2>who's just doing it all and juggling it and like

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>you're doing it gracefully. But also just like everybody else.

0:31:35.480 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I think people would think, oh, Molly Simms, like you know,

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 2>the model actress. It's like, no, she's she's human and

0:31:41.160 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>she you know, she has her days too where she

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>loses her shit.

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh you know she's.

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Juggling at all and you know, being the best like soccer,

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know across mom and everything.

0:31:51.040 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 5>You know.

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I mean, I think it's awesome. You know,

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:58.239
<v Speaker 2>you're I love people like you too, who you know,

0:31:58.320 --> 0:32:01.719
<v Speaker 2>you're letting people in and I think that's in this world,

0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 2>like people want that. But you're also doing it in

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.920
<v Speaker 2>a way where it honors you too, where you're not

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>giving so much of it.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know you want privacy you want.

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Because I do it way too much, like I let

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>people in a little bit too much where I'm trying

0:32:16.480 --> 0:32:18.760
<v Speaker 2>to like close the door a little bit now, But.

0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>But I do too. It's nice in that way. I'm like,

0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>why do I have no boundaries?

0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:23.240
<v Speaker 5>Why?

0:32:23.920 --> 0:32:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Why? What is wrong with me?

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>Like, well, I think we I think it's because you

0:32:29.680 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>want the relation and you want people to know you,

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.000
<v Speaker 2>and I think that's a beautiful thing. We've had people

0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:37.760
<v Speaker 2>come on here that you know, it's like, oh, like

0:32:37.800 --> 0:32:39.120
<v Speaker 2>they don't like, well, I don't even know why they

0:32:39.120 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 2>came on a podcast to talk when they don't even

0:32:41.480 --> 0:32:42.000
<v Speaker 2>want to talk.

0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, isn't that the worst?

0:32:43.440 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 5>When you'll get talked in a booking a client, you're like,

0:32:46.960 --> 0:32:47.920
<v Speaker 5>do you really.

0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be here?

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, If you don't, it's okay, it's fine, But.

0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:54.600
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to be You did not have to

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>say yes, Like I did not force you down, hold

0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 2>you down to say yes to do this podcast.

0:32:59.320 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>I know.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 5>I had a situation with a very famous person the

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.240
<v Speaker 5>other day and she's like, canceled three times ago.

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Listen to me, I said, I could give two folks,

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>if you want.

0:33:08.760 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 5>To be on this podcast or not. I said, I'm

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 5>not going to help your brand. Uh, I'm I'm happy.

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 5>You know, I have a great audience and I know

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:18.440
<v Speaker 5>you want to really tap into that.

0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>But if you cancel one more time, we're done.

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 5>And you know, I have a group of women who

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<v Speaker 5>work really hard, I like produce my like, and one

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<v Speaker 5>was flying with me to New York to do the

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<v Speaker 5>content like.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, oh, don't worry, she's going to cancel it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>she said, she wasn't and.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just so like and I, you know, I

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<v Speaker 5>was like, you know what, I held my ground and

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<v Speaker 5>I was like we're good, you know, and she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 5>we definitely want to do it, and I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>Like but it's it's you know, it gets a little

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<v Speaker 5>like you're not doing me a favor at this point,

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<v Speaker 5>like Michelle Pfeifer's coming back on, I just saw her.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I freaking levet, Like we're great to talk to.

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<v Speaker 5>We have an incredible audience, you know, and a community

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<v Speaker 5>that really listens and taps into everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's we're all good well.

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<v Speaker 4>And everyone's taking time away from something in their life,

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<v Speaker 4>like you have a sick daughter, Like yeah, exactly, Like

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<v Speaker 4>you have a sick daughter and you didn't cancel today.

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<v Speaker 5>I would never, you know what. I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 5>do it, you know, and it's my kitchen table. I

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<v Speaker 5>would like to go downstairs, but she's been so ill.

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<v Speaker 5>My son, you know, I locked him outside of the door.

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<v Speaker 5>I locked the door locked. He's like banging on the door.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like my stomach hurts. I'm like go around.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like really hurts, and I'm like I I want

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<v Speaker 5>mom and my stomachs, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I opened the door. I'm like, why can't you just

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<v Speaker 1>walk around and goes? I think I shit my pants.

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<v Speaker 5>I was like, and sure enough he has had diarrhea.

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<v Speaker 5>I like got into the shower with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh my god, I'm like everywhere and then

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<v Speaker 1>he got out.

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<v Speaker 5>It was just like, I'm like, and then my husband

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<v Speaker 5>was leaving to take a red eye. I'm like, em

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<v Speaker 5>Michew was deathly sick downstairs taking a nap from because

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<v Speaker 5>we'd finished from seven.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is happening right now? But that's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that is life?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's life. To wrap up, what are the what

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<v Speaker 2>is the best piece of marriage advice you have? And

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<v Speaker 2>what is the best overall advice that you have taken

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<v Speaker 2>into your life.

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<v Speaker 1>For marriage?

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<v Speaker 5>You're not gonna like everything mm hmmm, and there is

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<v Speaker 5>that's such a good You will want to change, that

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<v Speaker 5>will not change, and you have to come to somewhere

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<v Speaker 5>within yourself to either accept it and be able to

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<v Speaker 5>be in it or not. I think I think you know, and.

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<v Speaker 2>We all have our stuff. The grass is not always green.

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<v Speaker 5>And I can dig down and I can, I can,

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<v Speaker 5>I can dig it on an issue you can't always

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<v Speaker 5>dig in. You know, you got to know when to

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<v Speaker 5>like there's a boundary, there's there's a line, and I

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<v Speaker 5>have to say too, like pick your battles right, like

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<v Speaker 5>I think. I mean, you have a lot of young

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<v Speaker 5>women listening to this podcast. I think, you know, date

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<v Speaker 5>as long as you can, because you'll get to know

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<v Speaker 5>things that you wouldn't know in a year of dating.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, ask the hard questions. Don't ignore.

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<v Speaker 5>What you you you want to ignore because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 5>change from dating to marriage. It only gets amplified by

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<v Speaker 5>children and work and finance and schedules.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I.

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<v Speaker 5>Would say, I think the best in marriage would be

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<v Speaker 5>to not date a narcissist or marry.

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<v Speaker 1>One, which I did not do, but I dated a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think overall advice, I think, go big or

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<v Speaker 5>go home. I think there's always another chapter. I'm fifty one.

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<v Speaker 5>But also be passionate about what you're doing. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>I never thought I would start a skincare company or

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<v Speaker 5>a production company at fifty at you know, forty six,

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<v Speaker 5>forty seven and have it.

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<v Speaker 1>A completely other.

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<v Speaker 5>Side of my business, I think, But just go for

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<v Speaker 5>it and go forward in every way and lean into

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<v Speaker 5>your community and lean into people and ask for help

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<v Speaker 5>and just keep opening that door that's constantly kind of

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<v Speaker 5>being shut, because good things will happen in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen to that. Well, Mollie, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 2>coming on. Everyone go listen to her podcasts Lipstick on

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<v Speaker 2>the Rim and just thank you so much for.

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<v Speaker 5>Guys are awesome, awesome, all right, thanks bra Siya.

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<v Speaker 2>I love her.

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<v Speaker 4>I love when famous working moms are so real. It

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<v Speaker 4>just makes me so happy.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me so happy because I can't say who

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<v Speaker 2>the celebrity was that we had on the show, but

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<v Speaker 2>it actually never aired. But it's like, what don't come

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<v Speaker 2>on to not say something? You know it's or have

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<v Speaker 2>you know? I just love I love that. Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I think, you know, a lot of people want to

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<v Speaker 4>be completely private, which is fine, but I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, why then really go on a podcast exactly?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you know, there's other ways that you can

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 4>promote things without going on because people are going to

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<v Speaker 4>dig in and want to know things on a podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but she was lovely loved her, love her stunning.

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<v Speaker 2>She's Molly Sims like, I know, it's great.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that. She was like, yeah, that's the worst

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<v Speaker 3>thing you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great. I know. I'm like, well she.

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<v Speaker 3>Learned, so yeah, I learned for you.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go, all right, Well, see you next week.