Speaker 1: Hey, wind Down listeners.
Speaker 2: So this episode with Molly Sims was tape before the fires,
Speaker 2: and we have seen the devastation the fires have caused
Speaker 2: Molly's community, and we are praying for Molly and her family,
Speaker 2: her community and everyone that has been affected by the
Speaker 2: fires in LA. And again, thank you to the first
Speaker 2: responders and to everyone who has helped pick up the
Speaker 2: pieces during this difficult time. Here's the episode for this.
Speaker 1: Week, wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: You know what's really cool about doing this podcast is
Speaker 2: that we get to talk to I mean, obviously we
Speaker 2: have some amazing guests, but it's always really fun when
Speaker 2: you see a rundown that's like Matthew McConaughey, or like
Speaker 2: Jada Pinkett or Molly Sim that this one was good.
Speaker 2: Like she's a model, Yeah, she's a mom. She's got
Speaker 2: a new podcast that's out called Lipstick on the Rim.
Speaker 2: And sometimes all they want to come on wind out yeah,
Speaker 2: or I get you. I get super with the US, right,
Speaker 2: I get I get super like kind of giddy and excited,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, put for real, I don't know
Speaker 2: it's just going to show up.
Speaker 3: Are you going to do it?
Speaker 2: I know, but it's just it's really it's you know,
Speaker 2: she's she's just great. She's an actress, she's all the things,
Speaker 2: she's a mom. She's killing it. So I'm excited to
Speaker 2: get her on and she's actually like this is also cool.
Speaker 2: She's here on time right, ready to come on. Like
Speaker 2: if I was Molly's times, I'd be like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be ten minutes late.
Speaker 3: But you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't at all.
Speaker 3: That's not true.
Speaker 4: And that's and I've just got to stop there because
Speaker 4: there are plenty of Matthew McConaughey was on time.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry if you're you know, you can be on time.
Speaker 2: Too, exactly, And I'm we are always on time. It's
Speaker 2: one of the things that I will never Yeah, like
Speaker 2: hating late, which is something I had to have a
Speaker 2: conversation with Alan about because he's always late. Oh is he?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: He's slow always?
Speaker 2: Yes, slow and late. Ah. And it happened one night
Speaker 2: on a date night where we had to you know,
Speaker 2: traffic with Nashville too, so it was one of those
Speaker 2: things where we had to leave by a certain time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we ended up I'm like, Okay, I don't want
Speaker 2: to get upset at him because I don't want to
Speaker 2: ruin date night, but I also need him to know
Speaker 2: that this now feels like a little disrespectful too to
Speaker 2: always be late. And so he had to like change
Speaker 2: his out fit ten times. And I'm just like, you know,
Speaker 2: so she's like, you know, like this Jack, that was
Speaker 2: like fine. So I was like, hey, I just this
Speaker 2: is what's coming up for me right now, Like can
Speaker 2: you just it's important to me when you're on time,
Speaker 2: like it feels like you respect what we're doing, like
Speaker 2: you know. And then it was awful. The Uber driver
Speaker 2: we just got we extended our driveway a little bit,
Speaker 2: and so Alan was really proud of like this new
Speaker 2: grass that he like put in on the side. Well,
Speaker 2: the Uber driver decided to to do like a hole.
Speaker 2: He turned wow, completely messed up the grass. And so
Speaker 2: then Alan's like, man, you messed up, you know, like
Speaker 2: say something or sorry or something. And in the Uber's
Speaker 2: driver was like, I don't want to drive you guys anymore.
Speaker 2: So we left, which made us then like, I mean
Speaker 2: we missed our reservation. It was like the whole thing,
Speaker 2: wait what yeah, because and I was just like, sir,
Speaker 2: all you had to just say was acknowledged that you
Speaker 2: messed up the ground like you. I mean, he it
Speaker 2: wasn't just like a little like he completely like messed
Speaker 2: it up.
Speaker 3: And Alan's like I need the sorry.
Speaker 2: Well no, he was just like, sir, like why did
Speaker 2: you do that? You know? And he's like ahead, and
Speaker 2: he's like, you didn't have to do that. Like everyone
Speaker 2: just goes up and then down. I didn't. You didn't
Speaker 2: have to go all around. So they kind of had
Speaker 2: like you know.
Speaker 3: And he left you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like I'm not going to drive you
Speaker 2: guys anymore. And I'm like, sir, I think he was
Speaker 2: just wanting just for you to acknowledge what happened, right,
Speaker 2: you know, and he left. Oh and you know, it's
Speaker 2: not like you can't get ubers no, like did you
Speaker 2: even go We ended up driving, But you know, it's
Speaker 2: just one of those things where it was just like anyways.
Speaker 3: It was fine, but you know, yeah, that's that sucks.
Speaker 2: Anyways, how did we get on? She's waiting this entire time? Okay,
Speaker 2: let's go. No, she really wasn't. It was just her
Speaker 2: people in the waiting room. Now she's here, so let's
Speaker 2: take a break and let's get her on. Can we
Speaker 2: just hop right into it? Because I have also have
Speaker 2: we both have nine year old daughters. She's got three,
Speaker 2: I've got three. You've got three, right.
Speaker 1: I have three?
Speaker 2: What are the ages again?
Speaker 1: So Gray is seven, he's in second grade.
Speaker 5: He's my little like just chunky, just you want to
Speaker 5: squeeze him. And then Scarlett she's nine, she's in fourth grade.
Speaker 5: And then Brooks is sixth grade, just got a perm
Speaker 5: and he's just you know, your firstborn, lovable.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I have a My daughter is going to
Speaker 2: be nine in January. My son is six. And then
Speaker 2: I have a son who's thirteen months I know, And
Speaker 2: so you know, I had the baby at forty and
Speaker 2: I've been talking and she's also got three years year old.
Speaker 4: You mind are a little older. I have fifteen, almost thirteen,
Speaker 4: and almost nine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so but I'll say I'll the nine year old
Speaker 2: girl though, because you know, she's my oldest. And I'm like, hmm,
Speaker 2: it's the sass is already coming in.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's called the tude, the attitude.
Speaker 2: I just feel sometimes I'm like I don't understand what
Speaker 2: the like, I'm like, what am I doing wrong, you know,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, we're just not We're not like seeing
Speaker 2: eye to eye. I'm like, is this does it get worse?
Speaker 2: Because I'm like, she's just going to be turning nine.
Speaker 1: So you know, I got the opportunity. You guys should
Speaker 1: have her on.
Speaker 5: Her name is Eliza Pressman, and she has an incredible
Speaker 5: podcast called Raising Good Humans, and she has a book
Speaker 5: that came out this past year called The Five Principles
Speaker 5: of Parenting. And we were speaking yesterday. I work with
Speaker 5: her and her partner braun Win. We were speaking yesterday
Speaker 5: that a lot of parenting is listening. Is just listening.
Speaker 5: It's not all of it, but it's she breaks it
Speaker 5: down really well, it's like responding, reflecting, repair.
Speaker 1: Rules.
Speaker 5: I don't know, I can't think of what it was,
Speaker 5: but it was so interesting because she said a lot
Speaker 5: of it gets difficult, and a lot of it your
Speaker 5: job is to just listen and don't react. Right, So,
Speaker 5: because they're not necessarily coming to you and giving you
Speaker 5: the tude for you to react, they just it's almost
Speaker 5: like you're a sounding board but you're not allowed to speak.
Speaker 3: That is so hard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the hardest thing too, is my daughter.
Speaker 2: She wants to talk the most, like when I'm talking
Speaker 2: her into bed, which I always think is like a
Speaker 2: delay tactic, and I want to sit there and but
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm exhausted by the end of the night,
Speaker 2: you know, like chasing around, you know, the one year
Speaker 2: old and just like in them work, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: and it's like, and I know that I need to
Speaker 2: change that. I need to just sit there and let
Speaker 2: her tell me all the stories because one day she's
Speaker 2: not going to want to tell me all the stories,
Speaker 2: you know. But it's just it's I feel like that's
Speaker 2: the piece of mother like that I need to do
Speaker 2: better at because I'm just I'm exhausted. Then I'm like
Speaker 2: and then I feel like she's just doing it to
Speaker 2: stall to not go to bed, you know.
Speaker 1: Probably I'm like.
Speaker 4: There's a good chance that that could be what what
Speaker 4: she's doing. But it's hard to just listen and not
Speaker 4: want to, especially like that middle school girl age, Like
Speaker 4: how do you just listen to all the drama and
Speaker 4: not like tell them how to fix it or what
Speaker 4: to do? Like that part is very hard, but I
Speaker 4: am learning it goes a long way if you just listen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we spoke about that yesterday. She was just like,
Speaker 5: you know a lot of it. You know, sometimes the
Speaker 5: moms will get involved, but the the lesson here is
Speaker 5: to try to let them navigate it, figure it out,
Speaker 5: because you're not going to get invited to every part.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get you know, you're gonna.
Speaker 5: Get dumped, like all the lessons that are so hard
Speaker 5: that you have to let them.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 5: Again, I'm only in sixth grade, so I'm like dying
Speaker 5: at this advice.
Speaker 1: But it was really.
Speaker 2: I was like, where do you where do you think
Speaker 2: you excel as a mom? And then where do you
Speaker 2: think You're? Like, I feel like I need to I
Speaker 2: need to do better at that.
Speaker 5: You know, they know that I love them, They know
Speaker 5: I we mom fucking hard, like my mom, my husband, mom,
Speaker 5: my husband. Dad's like, you know, uh, we're pretty good
Speaker 5: with structure.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: I got a compliment from one of my heads of
Speaker 5: school this morning. You know, I my worst fear is,
Speaker 5: you know, having kids and raising them in LA is
Speaker 5: for them to be douchey and disrespectful. And we definitely
Speaker 5: hold the line with Boudes. I try to be an
Speaker 5: extension of the school and they try to be an
Speaker 5: extension right back.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 5: Being grateful, being respective, I think we've kind of started
Speaker 5: to nail that into them since birth, hammered in just
Speaker 5: like as much as you can. I think we excel
Speaker 5: in that way that they're very lucky that they are,
Speaker 5: you know, wonderful children. But at the same time, there
Speaker 5: are boundaries, there is structure, and there's consequences, right I
Speaker 5: think where you know, the wheels can come off right
Speaker 5: when everything just goes to shit and you're like, why
Speaker 5: am I screaming at you? You know, we're saying like
Speaker 5: what your mom said to you, Like I'm just telling
Speaker 5: you to do it, Like what just I'm doing it
Speaker 5: because I'm telling you as opposed to like really giving
Speaker 5: them a reason, sitting them down, taking that moment I
Speaker 5: can I can improve on, just like when I've had
Speaker 5: enough and I just lose my ship.
Speaker 2: I feel like every mom can relate to that too.
Speaker 2: I Mean, I feel like there's so many times when
Speaker 2: you know, I'll call one of you girls and then
Speaker 2: you know it's it's just like oh that, yeah, that
Speaker 2: happened to me yesterday, and I'm like, okay, good, So
Speaker 2: like that's that's a normal thing like we It's it's
Speaker 2: hard sometimes, you know, and we have our explosions, but
Speaker 2: that's also how we come back from it and say sorry, mommy,
Speaker 2: she just do you know why mommy was upset is
Speaker 2: because you just lost your third glasses, you know.
Speaker 1: And it's like I.
Speaker 5: Went totally off on her over the water bottle, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, I bought you the goat water bottle.
Speaker 1: The twenty five dollars water bottle, all.
Speaker 5: The goats on them. It's like Grace of all times
Speaker 5: is a lacrosse bottle. It's like twenty five dollars. It's
Speaker 5: like expensive, and I normally don't do it because they lose.
Speaker 1: The water bottle. And I'm like, you can had it.
Speaker 1: I can't take it. I can't take it.
Speaker 2: Put it back where it well, I'm pretty sure she
Speaker 2: was No.
Speaker 1: I put it in the bag. I swear to god.
Speaker 1: I put in the bag. Money.
Speaker 5: Andy and I were like going through like tons and
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: The water bottles there. No. I was like, the world
Speaker 1: the worst worse.
Speaker 3: It's okay.
Speaker 4: I had but oughta remind me of something I said
Speaker 4: to her the other day that I should not have said.
Speaker 4: And I'm not going to repeat it because I feel
Speaker 4: really guilty about it.
Speaker 2: Okay, please help you make us feel better.
Speaker 3: She brings it up on the daily.
Speaker 4: I've obviously apologized, so she knows that she can bring
Speaker 4: it up. But I'm like, why are you torturing me
Speaker 4: reminding me daily of what I said that I should
Speaker 4: have said. No torture, torture, It's awful. Okay, So what
Speaker 4: are your kids into sports? Because I mean you do
Speaker 4: it all obviously.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're very.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so what are they into?
Speaker 1: So lacrosse?
Speaker 5: My girl does lacrosse and she rides. She's equestrian. She
Speaker 5: rides horses, which, by the way, you have to be.
Speaker 1: We're only going to last a couple more year. We're
Speaker 1: gonna run out of money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my daughter has been begging for a horse.
Speaker 1: Well that's what everyone tells me.
Speaker 2: My husband's like, you know, he was like don't He's like, babe, no,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, but so, I just say when you're thirteen,
Speaker 2: we'll talk about it when you're thirteen. Well, talk about
Speaker 2: it when you're thirteen. But she loves riding horses like
Speaker 2: she loves it.
Speaker 1: Do you guys know.
Speaker 5: Marry Kitchen Mary Kitchen she's amazing. She's a woman here
Speaker 5: in LA that I'm very close to, and she has
Speaker 5: three little girls, fabulous by the you want to wear
Speaker 5: their wardrobe, and she's fabulous. And so she was like,
Speaker 5: you know, I ride and she's like, I'm really getting
Speaker 5: the girls.
Speaker 1: This is in preschool.
Speaker 5: Okay, She's like, you got to come to this little
Speaker 5: like pony camp. And sure enough I took her to
Speaker 5: the pony camp and she loved it. And so I'm like, okay,
Speaker 5: just ride up here at Sullivan Canyon just you know,
Speaker 5: and she ended up loving it.
Speaker 1: They ended up quitting. I'm like, I don't even ride.
Speaker 1: I have no one from Kentucky.
Speaker 5: But like, anyway, so she does a questrian, they all
Speaker 5: do lacrosse, and a couple of.
Speaker 1: Them do soccer. But we're very active. I'm hoping.
Speaker 5: I know it sounds like a little controversial, but I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna one sport a child just because I feel
Speaker 5: like their development and all these coaches and clubs and
Speaker 5: you know, they almost make it impossible for the for
Speaker 5: the kids to have more than one sport. And I
Speaker 5: just don't believe in that. I don't they haven't gone
Speaker 5: through puberty.
Speaker 1: And they don't know.
Speaker 5: You don't know where you're going to be in three years,
Speaker 5: and I you know, it's that's something that I've learned
Speaker 5: to be very boundaried with coaches and teams of we're
Speaker 5: doing the best we can if you'd like us to
Speaker 5: be on the team. We are not a one sport
Speaker 5: family like that's something like as a as a third
Speaker 5: child coming in, I've gotten my armor on because I truly,
Speaker 5: you know, I need them to play something in high school.
Speaker 1: I don't care what.
Speaker 5: So I've started with five. Now we're narrowing it down,
Speaker 5: which is really hard. But I think it's an investment
Speaker 5: into them not being on the phone and not being
Speaker 5: bored and having something that.
Speaker 1: They have to be a part of and that can
Speaker 1: be a.
Speaker 5: Single sport, that can be a team sport that just
Speaker 5: they have to do something.
Speaker 2: What are is going to be your boundary with social media?
Speaker 5: I mean I say this because my kids don't even
Speaker 5: have phones. I've spoken, you know. I got to speak
Speaker 5: to Jonathan Haye, who wrote the Conversations of an Anxious Generation,
Speaker 5: who is incredible. I got to speak to Eliza, I
Speaker 5: get to speak to a lot of incredible developmental psychologists.
Speaker 5: Family you know, really great people have wonderful advice.
Speaker 1: We're not going to have a phone. You know, we're
Speaker 1: not going to have a phone.
Speaker 2: When do you think you'll give the phone?
Speaker 5: Probably eighth grade, you know, seven, he wants it, you know,
Speaker 5: when he graduates out of six.
Speaker 1: But I think a group of.
Speaker 5: Us, listen, I'm really you know, happy that the schools,
Speaker 5: especially in California, have come together. There's a no there's
Speaker 5: a no phone policy now, which I really think makes
Speaker 5: our life easier, in the teacher's life easier.
Speaker 2: Because then it's not like you're like because the kids
Speaker 2: get mad, they'll get mad at you and the parents
Speaker 2: as a post can cat our schools do that.
Speaker 4: I mean, my kids are older and already have them.
Speaker 4: But I would have done anything for someone to stand
Speaker 4: with me and say.
Speaker 5: I'm not doing I won't say to high school, but
Speaker 5: I learned one high school yesterday in the Valley decided
Speaker 5: that no, they were gonna like they were going to
Speaker 5: let the kids have the phones in high school.
Speaker 1: They didn't.
Speaker 5: They were like, they're going to be on it more after.
Speaker 5: So it was just like it was so weird.
Speaker 2: Because you're active on social media. Yeah, sorry, but like
Speaker 2: so it's like it's hard because it's like I have
Speaker 2: that same thing with my daughter. I mean, she's way
Speaker 2: too young. I'm not to give her obviously a phone
Speaker 2: or social media, like I'm I'm trying to hold out
Speaker 2: until high school hopefully, like yeah, seventh or eighth. But
Speaker 2: like you know, I she's always like, well, mom, you're
Speaker 2: on social media. I'm like, yeah, behind, it's my work,
Speaker 2: like it's my job. Like I don't want to be,
Speaker 2: but I have to be.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, You're an adult and you
Speaker 1: have you can regulate, you know. I think listen, all
Speaker 1: kids are different.
Speaker 5: You know Brooks, if I gave Brooks a phone today,
Speaker 5: he would be so addicted, right he is social he
Speaker 5: maybe not because he has an iPad and I see
Speaker 5: he doesn't even respond, So maybe he's and he's always
Speaker 5: too busy. But just within their personalities, he's he loves YouTube,
Speaker 5: he loves watching every basketball every like I just know
Speaker 5: him Scarlet.
Speaker 1: I don't know Gray.
Speaker 5: He has no I mean, he wants a phone, but
Speaker 5: he only wants a phone because everybody else wants a phone,
Speaker 5: like he doesn't it. But I do think it depends
Speaker 5: on the timperment of your child. You know, how is
Speaker 5: there executive functioning? How is there you know? And a
Speaker 5: lot of it if you're divorced, I mean a lot
Speaker 5: of it is is not just that you you want
Speaker 5: to give it, You have to get it, you have
Speaker 5: to somehow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to stop texting my ex husband being like,
Speaker 2: can I talk to the kids please? Like I'd like
Speaker 2: to just straight up call jolly, which is probably why
Speaker 2: they'll get it earlier, Like I get it for sports
Speaker 2: and things like that that you know, But that's another
Speaker 2: reason why I'm like, she might get it earlier because
Speaker 2: I don't want to keep texting him.
Speaker 5: Right, which is which is understandably and you also, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, depending on your help situation, just getting a
Speaker 5: hold of the child.
Speaker 1: But again, it doesn't necessarily have to be an iPhone.
Speaker 5: You can have a phone that doesn't have social media
Speaker 5: that you can you know, they can communicate, because it does,
Speaker 5: especially in divorce, can be you know, really tricky and
Speaker 5: then it can even cause more issues for the child.
Speaker 2: Can we move on to skincare because you obviously have
Speaker 2: your podcast Lipstick on the Rim, and I just I
Speaker 2: need to know what you do skincare wise, because I
Speaker 2: stopped botox last year because I had a bad reaction
Speaker 2: and I haven't done it since last June, and so
Speaker 2: and I really I really don't want to again. But
Speaker 2: I'm also you know, I'm in my forties, and I
Speaker 2: didn't do it a lot anyways, Like I would do
Speaker 2: it like every like five months maybe or every six months.
Speaker 2: But do you do botox?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's I only do botox, Okay, I do it
Speaker 5: kind of like you.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm desperate need to get both.
Speaker 2: Talks well, because that's saying I'm getting to the point
Speaker 2: where I'm like I'm starting to see them just like oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I know there's nothing left in the space.
Speaker 2: I don't want to though, but then anyways, go ahead.
Speaker 1: You know, I just think she's like I do.
Speaker 5: I just think you have to be careful judging yourself,
Speaker 5: like you know, kind of lead with kindness in terms
Speaker 5: of that way, like you know, if you maybe instead
Speaker 5: of going three months, go seven months if you want
Speaker 5: to do you know, and you can also you have
Speaker 5: a reason to be scared. You had a bad reaction, right,
Speaker 5: So you know, a friend of mine had that happen
Speaker 5: and it really put her off.
Speaker 1: And then she finally got over and she's like, what
Speaker 1: the was I doing well?
Speaker 2: Because the wrinkles?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was I thinking?
Speaker 5: So I have a skincare company we launched about eighteen
Speaker 5: months ago called Wise Beauty Y se Beauty, and I
Speaker 5: had real issues with my skin. I had my last
Speaker 5: baby at forty four. I had my first baby at
Speaker 5: thirty nine. I was like, back to back to back,
Speaker 5: forty four, forty five, I'm fifty one.
Speaker 2: Nice, So you give me hope to have another one.
Speaker 2: My husband's like no, but I'm like, come on, I'm
Speaker 2: forty one. I can do it. Yes, of course you can,
Speaker 2: because I really want one more.
Speaker 5: Yes, and go to doctor Ging if you live in
Speaker 5: La doctor Jing. The begs acupuma muxtuious, awful dirt that
Speaker 5: you will fellow horrible.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. I actually saw her this morning. Not to
Speaker 1: have a baby.
Speaker 5: But I had really bad cystic acony starting in my
Speaker 5: late twenties, and I thought, okay, I'm done.
Speaker 1: I've you know, I've grown up.
Speaker 5: But with that I ended up trading to be hyper
Speaker 5: pigmentation milasma and I kind of.
Speaker 2: Got I have terrible malasma.
Speaker 1: Oh I know.
Speaker 2: She's like, oh I know, I see it.
Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't mean it like that. I just
Speaker 1: I can't see it.
Speaker 5: I meant like it just came out with don't whether
Speaker 5: it's gun or age or hormones or a mixture of
Speaker 5: all three. Mine was really bad because I was kind
Speaker 5: of like you, the girl who goes no makeup makeup,
Speaker 5: you know, kind of lead with the skin until you don't.
Speaker 1: I first tried a product called high.
Speaker 5: Your quanone, which is a really strong active that you get.
Speaker 1: It lightens his skin.
Speaker 2: I do that every day? Is not Should I not
Speaker 2: be doing that? Oh?
Speaker 1: No, you should not.
Speaker 2: Oh no, Why I've literally been doing it the last year,
Speaker 2: every day, twice a day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's probably one of the worst things you can do.
Speaker 2: Why but it has like lightened it though I know
Speaker 2: sure absolutely? Why is it bad?
Speaker 1: Why did she give it to me?
Speaker 2: Why did my doctor give it to me if it
Speaker 2: was bad?
Speaker 1: Does she know you've been on it a year?
Speaker 5: Because see, mine didn't realize that I had been abusing
Speaker 5: it off and on for many years. You're only supposed
Speaker 5: to be on it for about three months. Oh, the
Speaker 5: problem is it's fine while you're using it. I'm sure
Speaker 5: you are a little bit red A lot dry. So
Speaker 5: you're going to trade a lot of things for you know,
Speaker 5: other things. But what ends up happening, and again it
Speaker 5: may not happen to you. But once I stopped using it,
Speaker 5: the moment I went outside and got any tinge of sun, it.
Speaker 1: Got worse than even before.
Speaker 5: And this went on from twenty twelve to twenty fifteen
Speaker 5: to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 1: And the more like.
Speaker 5: Kind of the harsher I was whether I did. I
Speaker 5: did a cold laser with oreon. In fifteen, I did
Speaker 5: a couple peals.
Speaker 1: The harsher. The harsher it is.
Speaker 5: The backlash is so bad I can't even tell you.
Speaker 5: So in twenty nineteen I stopped everything again. I would
Speaker 5: I would have even skin until I wouldn't, and then
Speaker 5: I would go out and it would pop up in
Speaker 5: the sun. It would be like patchy and just like
Speaker 5: I looked dirty. But out of that I my husband
Speaker 5: said one day that I had a little dirt on
Speaker 5: my face in twenty nineteen and I could not talking
Speaker 5: to I would take these little pods of Matt kincealer,
Speaker 5: they still have them. They've been around for one hundred years,
Speaker 5: and I would kind of just patch it up so
Speaker 5: I wouldn't have to wear like a full face of foundation.
Speaker 2: I do that every day to cover my malasma because
Speaker 2: I don't like wearing makeup. But i'd just patch it
Speaker 2: my malasma.
Speaker 1: Pack it up.
Speaker 5: So then and then I would take like a wet
Speaker 5: sponge and like dip a little tinted moisturizer and i'd
Speaker 5: kind of like just dotted on to have like.
Speaker 1: A little bit of some glow. But I ended up
Speaker 1: stopping all of it, and.
Speaker 5: I didn't really kind of realize what I was doing.
Speaker 1: I just sort of did it.
Speaker 5: I started with a product called that I totally abused
Speaker 5: biology Gresearch Peet fifteen, nineteen seventy. And then I went
Speaker 5: to an ice ice clinical product, then to a skin
Speaker 5: food would lead it, which is a really thick moisturizer
Speaker 5: you get a whole foods, and then I would do glytone,
Speaker 5: and I ended up having like fifteen products. And what
Speaker 5: I would do is I would exfoliate, and then I
Speaker 5: would hydrate push put everything back in, and then I
Speaker 5: would exfoliate and then I would brighten and then I
Speaker 5: would put everything back in. And what I didn't realize
Speaker 5: I was doing was actually a system and within about
Speaker 5: and I went cold Turkey dry on hydrophenone, and in
Speaker 5: about six months, I'm like, I started getting compliments on
Speaker 5: my skin.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, it's weird.
Speaker 5: And then cut to twenty twenty, I was actually trying
Speaker 5: to switch managers, which I wanted to. Didn't know that
Speaker 5: I wanted to go and sit in a trailer. I
Speaker 5: had three young babies. My husband's in the entertainment industry
Speaker 5: as well. We can't both be gone at the same time.
Speaker 5: And I was trying to say, faking relevant like a cat,
Speaker 5: you know, just to like have another life, right, And
Speaker 5: I really always wanted to do something, whether it be branding, producing,
Speaker 5: just to to be a part of something from the beginning,
Speaker 5: from the inception, as opposed to, you know, just holding
Speaker 5: the glass or the product at the very end, which
Speaker 5: is nothing wrong with it, but you know, after.
Speaker 2: Twenty it served you well for many early.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I work with so many brands
Speaker 1: and I love it. It just had to have more.
Speaker 2: You wanted something that was your own, that you could hold,
Speaker 2: that you could have the power and the y'all.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 5: Out of that, you know, I'm a manager, and she
Speaker 5: was this incredible management manager, here in La called Nicole
Speaker 5: King Silocas.
Speaker 1: She's with Lynden Entertainment, and.
Speaker 5: She was like, yeah, I'll think about taking you, but
Speaker 5: you're going to need a five year plan.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what do you mean You're not going to
Speaker 1: take me? What's wrong with you? And she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to need more of it.
Speaker 5: She's like, I looked at I look at you guys,
Speaker 5: not just as an actor or an actor actress, but
Speaker 5: I look at you as you know, a whole three
Speaker 5: sixty you like what?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god. En an upstanding
Speaker 1: next to a woman Kim.
Speaker 5: Kruzberger, who had an incredible company called Pivot Projects, and
Speaker 5: she had just left Goop and I'm like, what are
Speaker 5: you doing now? And she was like, oh, I'm consulting
Speaker 5: with brands and with people on trying to figure out
Speaker 5: what they want to do next.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I am your client.
Speaker 5: So at this kitchen table four years ago, she came
Speaker 5: with another woman, Danielle Pergrimont, and they went through everything
Speaker 5: of my life. They went through mollisims dot com, they
Speaker 5: went through my TikTok, they went through.
Speaker 1: They went through.
Speaker 5: Everything, and they're like, why is this over here. This
Speaker 5: is not relate over here, you're you know. And out
Speaker 5: of that came wise and came lipstick on the rim,
Speaker 5: believe it or not. And yeah, we ended up working
Speaker 5: with a manufacturer and we launched eighteen months ago and
Speaker 5: it is a brightening.
Speaker 1: Ritual.
Speaker 5: Routines stem for hyper pigmentation to not get into the circle.
Speaker 5: We have your favorite X pads, their ex boyfriend pads,
Speaker 5: that's what they're called. And then we have a morning cocktail.
Speaker 5: We have a very famous skin glow SPF thirty, and
Speaker 5: then we have our problem solver. Our last call are
Speaker 5: extremely rich and it's we've gotten fifteen awards and fifteen
Speaker 5: months and it's grown faster than ever. I never knew
Speaker 5: a company could grow so fast. It's been pretty scary.
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Congrats, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: For anybody listening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well for me, I'm like, also, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: like on the website right now because I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have to ditch the hydroqernon.
Speaker 5: I am really sorry. We've been really small. We had
Speaker 5: no idea our supply chain would be so freaking crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it was the first time Monday before Black Friday, that
Speaker 5: I've actually had all my products in stock.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, well I'm going to be ordering. I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: But besides that, though, let's just talk about your podcast too.
Speaker 2: Lipstick on the Rim. What can listeners? You know what?
Speaker 2: What's kind of like give the elevator pitch of the podcast.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's Emmisha kind of like you guys,
Speaker 5: it's my best friend.
Speaker 1: She lives in Jersey, she has three kids.
Speaker 5: It's basically came from a morning meeting that all my girlfriends.
Speaker 5: We were in Cabo on a trip, and we'd all
Speaker 5: come downstairs and we'd be like, oh do you have this?
Speaker 5: You need this? Oh my god, I'm i fucking hate him.
Speaker 5: I'm divorcing him.
Speaker 1: Like, you know, go see this person had those conversations.
Speaker 1: Go see this person.
Speaker 5: It's you know, having a sneak peek into a conversation
Speaker 5: with your best friend, but at the same time answering
Speaker 5: a question that you didn't know. So we have everyone
Speaker 5: from plastic surgeons to doctors, to enter chronologists to the
Speaker 5: subject of ozimbic. Our obsession with beauty and you know
Speaker 5: everything we're buying, loving have to have it really does
Speaker 5: kind of run the gamut between beauty, fashion and wellness.
Speaker 5: I've always my mom was a big you know, my
Speaker 5: brand is named after my mom.
Speaker 1: Wise to look to know a little bit more than
Speaker 1: you knew before, and with lipstick on the rim.
Speaker 5: I I have always been a non gatekeeper, and I'm
Speaker 5: sure it's better now. But before, if I would say
Speaker 5: to an actress or she would ask me, oh my god,
Speaker 5: what are you doing, I'd be like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've starved for six days.
Speaker 5: I've gotten botox, I've gotten X, Y and Z, I've
Speaker 5: done this. And then when I would ask, they would
Speaker 5: be like, oh no, I just drink a lot of
Speaker 5: water and you know, get a lot of sleep.
Speaker 1: There was and I was like, really, that that's what
Speaker 1: your that's what you do it.
Speaker 5: So that really is the place of lipstick on the
Speaker 5: ring on the rim. And you know, it's non gate keeping.
Speaker 5: It's you know, not necessarily spilling your entire life, but
Speaker 5: being vulnerable, but being very transparent on what we do,
Speaker 5: how we do it, whether it's as best friends or
Speaker 5: moms or friends and just really having this community. It's
Speaker 5: being a mom, it's being it's being you know, as
Speaker 5: honest and truthful as we can on what we do
Speaker 5: and how to make ourselves look better. I mean we
Speaker 5: had this, we had Dan Brutner on from the Blue
Speaker 5: Zone Diet. I mean we'll have every like nutritionous, like
Speaker 5: you know, how to gain muscle, how to lose my like,
Speaker 5: we'll just come.
Speaker 1: But it's fun, you know.
Speaker 5: I have to say, I uh, I didn't really want
Speaker 5: to do it.
Speaker 1: Because I'm like, who's who does podcast?
Speaker 2: So many plates, you know, but this was four years ago,
Speaker 2: right when no one was really doing.
Speaker 5: Podcasts and like a podcast, who's gonna listen to this
Speaker 5: on a podcast? But it's like, you guys, it's really
Speaker 5: fun and I actually I actually learn I mean, uh,
Speaker 5: I learned stuff all day long, which is kind of
Speaker 5: I get to go back to school with my guests.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I mean I love that too. I feel
Speaker 2: like it's one of those things where it's like not
Speaker 2: only do we learn you know, things about beauty from
Speaker 2: amazing guests like you and you know, just life stuff,
Speaker 2: but also it's I think it's that relation too, of
Speaker 2: relating like Okay, here's another you know, kick ass mom
Speaker 2: who's just doing it all and juggling it and like
Speaker 2: you're doing it gracefully. But also just like everybody else.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think people would think, oh, Molly Simms, like you know,
Speaker 2: the model actress. It's like, no, she's she's human and
Speaker 2: she you know, she has her days too where she
Speaker 2: loses her shit.
Speaker 1: Oh you know she's.
Speaker 2: Juggling at all and you know, being the best like soccer,
Speaker 2: you know, you know across mom and everything.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, I think it's awesome. You know,
Speaker 2: you're I love people like you too, who you know,
Speaker 2: you're letting people in and I think that's in this world,
Speaker 2: like people want that. But you're also doing it in
Speaker 2: a way where it honors you too, where you're not
Speaker 2: giving so much of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you want privacy you want.
Speaker 2: Because I do it way too much, like I let
Speaker 2: people in a little bit too much where I'm trying
Speaker 2: to like close the door a little bit now, But.
Speaker 1: But I do too. It's nice in that way. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why do I have no boundaries?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 1: Why? What is wrong with me?
Speaker 2: Like, well, I think we I think it's because you
Speaker 2: want the relation and you want people to know you,
Speaker 2: and I think that's a beautiful thing. We've had people
Speaker 2: come on here that you know, it's like, oh, like
Speaker 2: they don't like, well, I don't even know why they
Speaker 2: came on a podcast to talk when they don't even
Speaker 2: want to talk.
Speaker 1: You know, isn't that the worst?
Speaker 5: When you'll get talked in a booking a client, you're like,
Speaker 5: do you really.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be here?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, If you don't, it's okay, it's fine, But.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be You did not have to
Speaker 2: say yes, Like I did not force you down, hold
Speaker 2: you down to say yes to do this podcast.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 5: I had a situation with a very famous person the
Speaker 5: other day and she's like, canceled three times ago.
Speaker 1: Listen to me, I said, I could give two folks,
Speaker 1: if you want.
Speaker 5: To be on this podcast or not. I said, I'm
Speaker 5: not going to help your brand. Uh, I'm I'm happy.
Speaker 5: You know, I have a great audience and I know
Speaker 5: you want to really tap into that.
Speaker 1: But if you cancel one more time, we're done.
Speaker 5: And you know, I have a group of women who
Speaker 5: work really hard, I like produce my like, and one
Speaker 5: was flying with me to New York to do the
Speaker 5: content like.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, don't worry, she's going to cancel it. No,
Speaker 1: she said, she wasn't and.
Speaker 5: It was just so like and I, you know, I
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, I held my ground and
Speaker 5: I was like we're good, you know, and she's like, no,
Speaker 5: we definitely want to do it, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: Like but it's it's you know, it gets a little
Speaker 5: like you're not doing me a favor at this point,
Speaker 5: like Michelle Pfeifer's coming back on, I just saw her.
Speaker 1: Like I freaking levet, Like we're great to talk to.
Speaker 5: We have an incredible audience, you know, and a community
Speaker 5: that really listens and taps into everything.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's we're all good well.
Speaker 4: And everyone's taking time away from something in their life,
Speaker 4: like you have a sick daughter, Like yeah, exactly, Like
Speaker 4: you have a sick daughter and you didn't cancel today.
Speaker 5: I would never, you know what. I didn't want to
Speaker 5: do it, you know, and it's my kitchen table. I
Speaker 5: would like to go downstairs, but she's been so ill.
Speaker 5: My son, you know, I locked him outside of the door.
Speaker 5: I locked the door locked. He's like banging on the door.
Speaker 1: It's like my stomach hurts. I'm like go around.
Speaker 5: He's like really hurts, and I'm like I I want
Speaker 5: mom and my stomachs, and.
Speaker 1: I opened the door. I'm like, why can't you just
Speaker 1: walk around and goes? I think I shit my pants.
Speaker 5: I was like, and sure enough he has had diarrhea.
Speaker 5: I like got into the shower with him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I'm like everywhere and then
Speaker 1: he got out.
Speaker 5: It was just like, I'm like, and then my husband
Speaker 5: was leaving to take a red eye. I'm like, em
Speaker 5: Michew was deathly sick downstairs taking a nap from because
Speaker 5: we'd finished from seven.
Speaker 1: I was like, what is happening right now? But that's
Speaker 1: you know, that is life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's life. To wrap up, what are the what
Speaker 2: is the best piece of marriage advice you have? And
Speaker 2: what is the best overall advice that you have taken
Speaker 2: into your life.
Speaker 1: For marriage?
Speaker 5: You're not gonna like everything mm hmmm, and there is
Speaker 5: that's such a good You will want to change, that
Speaker 5: will not change, and you have to come to somewhere
Speaker 5: within yourself to either accept it and be able to
Speaker 5: be in it or not. I think I think you know, and.
Speaker 2: We all have our stuff. The grass is not always green.
Speaker 5: And I can dig down and I can, I can,
Speaker 5: I can dig it on an issue you can't always
Speaker 5: dig in. You know, you got to know when to
Speaker 5: like there's a boundary, there's there's a line, and I
Speaker 5: have to say too, like pick your battles right, like
Speaker 5: I think. I mean, you have a lot of young
Speaker 5: women listening to this podcast. I think, you know, date
Speaker 5: as long as you can, because you'll get to know
Speaker 5: things that you wouldn't know in a year of dating.
Speaker 1: You know, ask the hard questions. Don't ignore.
Speaker 5: What you you you want to ignore because it doesn't
Speaker 5: change from dating to marriage. It only gets amplified by
Speaker 5: children and work and finance and schedules.
Speaker 1: And you know, I.
Speaker 5: Would say, I think the best in marriage would be
Speaker 5: to not date a narcissist or marry.
Speaker 1: One, which I did not do, but I dated a
Speaker 1: lot of them.
Speaker 5: So I think overall advice, I think, go big or
Speaker 5: go home. I think there's always another chapter. I'm fifty one.
Speaker 5: But also be passionate about what you're doing. You know,
Speaker 5: I never thought I would start a skincare company or
Speaker 5: a production company at fifty at you know, forty six,
Speaker 5: forty seven and have it.
Speaker 1: A completely other.
Speaker 5: Side of my business, I think, But just go for
Speaker 5: it and go forward in every way and lean into
Speaker 5: your community and lean into people and ask for help
Speaker 5: and just keep opening that door that's constantly kind of
Speaker 5: being shut, because good things will happen in the end.
Speaker 2: Amen to that. Well, Mollie, thank you so much for
Speaker 2: coming on. Everyone go listen to her podcasts Lipstick on
Speaker 2: the Rim and just thank you so much for.
Speaker 5: Guys are awesome, awesome, all right, thanks bra Siya.
Speaker 2: I love her.
Speaker 4: I love when famous working moms are so real. It
Speaker 4: just makes me so happy.
Speaker 2: It makes me so happy because I can't say who
Speaker 2: the celebrity was that we had on the show, but
Speaker 2: it actually never aired. But it's like, what don't come
Speaker 2: on to not say something? You know it's or have
Speaker 2: you know? I just love I love that. Well.
Speaker 4: I think, you know, a lot of people want to
Speaker 4: be completely private, which is fine, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, why then really go on a podcast exactly?
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, there's other ways that you can
Speaker 4: promote things without going on because people are going to
Speaker 4: dig in and want to know things on a podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but she was lovely loved her, love her stunning.
Speaker 2: She's Molly Sims like, I know, it's great.
Speaker 3: I love that. She was like, yeah, that's the worst
Speaker 3: thing you can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I know. I'm like, well she.
Speaker 3: Learned, so yeah, I learned for you.
Speaker 2: There you go, all right, Well, see you next week.