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Speaker 3: All right, welcome in another special episode of What's Right

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Speaker 3: with the podcast and YouTube show. We are releasing this

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Speaker 3: on Monday. We are recording this on Monday, a bit

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Speaker 3: of a recap of Game four of the NBA Finals,

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Speaker 3: and we will do a preview of Game five of

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Speaker 3: the NBA Finals. Demons is here alongside me. This is

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Speaker 3: a stripped down, shorter show. You will get the full

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Speaker 3: thirty five to forty minute show tomorrow that you usually get.

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Speaker 3: Actually you usually get those on Tuesdays. I don't even

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Speaker 3: record it tomorrow. Here's what I do know. We're doing

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Speaker 3: this right now in real time. You've had a couple

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Speaker 3: days to process a crushing Celtics defeat. But I know

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Speaker 3: But you let me know where we're going.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Steph Curry played what you would call his best

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Speaker 4: game ever in Game four. Yep, they're going going back

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Speaker 3: Okay, No, you're staying with the Celtics. I am also

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Speaker 3: You woke up on time today. Everything's all good, you

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Speaker 3: got a good good night's rest. But you're a little

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Speaker 3: you're not quite as confident as you once were. I

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's necessarily a must win for you guys,

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Speaker 3: the fourth things I want to talk about today, and

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Speaker 3: I want to do it in this order. I want

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Speaker 3: to start with Steph. Then I want to talk about

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Speaker 3: on Steph. I called it the best game of his life.

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Speaker 3: I do believe it was the best game of his life.

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Speaker 3: There was no other offense coming from any other source

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Speaker 3: It was a great game, and watching it in real time,

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Speaker 3: It does not make it one of the greatest games

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Speaker 3: the big question? Mark? Okay, now about the actual end

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Speaker 5: Talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Clay Thompson hit a three to give the Warriors the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I kept trying to win it on one possession.

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Speaker 3: They got totally tilted by losing the lead. And I'll

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Speaker 3: on the TV show. Here was the possessions. Klay Thompson

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Speaker 3: It's not like you were down twelve. You ended up

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Speaker 3: I picked the Warriors before the series. My concern was

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Speaker 3: talked about Draymungry. So Draymond's own mother started tweeting about it.

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Speaker 3: Can you imagine if my mom had Twitter?

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Speaker 3: My biggest concern for your Celtics, who are now kind

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Speaker 4: And then it's like he has no hope in him.

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Speaker 3: So I do not think Tatum has been bad. Tatum

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Speaker 3: It sounds like, oh no, I'm glad you asked that,

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Speaker 3: They asked me on the TV show today as well.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't crush him, right. Draymond, though, has been mediocre

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Speaker 5: See you as soon