Speaker 1: No Willie Papa love Crans. If you catch me in
Speaker 1: the modam, did you come on?
Speaker 2: Make him again?
Speaker 3: One done in a.
Speaker 1: Second if you way? I five crans.
Speaker 4: If you catch me in the moda of ea them,
Speaker 4: did you come on?
Speaker 5: Make him again?
Speaker 4: One done in a second if you way? Sometimes I
Speaker 4: than SI can non change.
Speaker 6: If we stop a get to a clockingnut game, everyone's
Speaker 6: a wyn.
Speaker 4: We make cann. We're gonna find slam makeimmon name.
Speaker 7: Sometimes I things it can on change if we stop
Speaker 7: a get a clockingnut game, everyone's a wyn.
Speaker 4: We make Canni. We're gonna find his clammon name.
Speaker 1: We are back on zero sleep, so I'm going to
Speaker 1: be wired today. And I drank coffee lit bleep the
Speaker 1: F word because don't want to get demonetized. Putting piece
Speaker 1: to work already. I apologize. So excited to see everyone.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling more?
Speaker 6: I'm great? How you doing?
Speaker 1: I'm okay?
Speaker 6: How was your weekend?
Speaker 1: Where do you want to start the weekend? Okay? I
Speaker 1: had tomorrow from Thursday until this morning, by myself, which
Speaker 1: is cool. Been there, done that, and wait scheduled a
Speaker 1: whole itinerary of activities for her. My mom was gonna
Speaker 1: come on Saturday put up all the decorations. But let's
Speaker 1: start Thursday night. Out the gate. She only wants me
Speaker 1: to sleep next to her in her crib, So out
Speaker 1: the crib. Yeah her, it's like a crib bed. But
Speaker 1: I was like, do you just want to sleep in
Speaker 1: the bed with me? Because she was being fussy and
Speaker 1: she just wanted to sleep in her bed and make
Speaker 1: me stay right there.
Speaker 8: So out the gate.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, cool. Slept on the floor the
Speaker 1: whole night. Didn't get much sleep, but who cares. We
Speaker 1: have so much fun activities from Friday to Sunday. Night
Speaker 1: Friday go to Lego. Maybe I had more fun than tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's like to hear, great, great experience.
Speaker 8: Amars stole more Legos when I were at home.
Speaker 1: I found a stash of Legos in the stroller. You
Speaker 1: have to pay for it by like the pound. She
Speaker 1: I did not even see her. She was doing a
Speaker 1: whole yeah, and she had a great time, smiling, running
Speaker 1: around only through one tantrum. They have like a three
Speaker 1: D movie type situation in the Lego Land thing that
Speaker 1: runs every fifteen minutes. I walk in, I see drenched seats,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, oh, the kids spill a bunch of
Speaker 1: shit because they had a snack bar, which we'll get to.
Speaker 1: They're ruined my weekend. I'm trying to find a dry spot.
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck it, these kids are disgusting that we're
Speaker 1: in here. Before halfway through the Lego Land thing, I
Speaker 1: thought I was at a water park.
Speaker 8: They drench us in mist.
Speaker 1: When the Lego surfers come in, Amara loves miss she's
Speaker 1: having a blast. The shit ends. She thinks it's her
Speaker 1: iPad and throws a fucking fit because I can't restart
Speaker 1: the movie. God damn full blown in the puddles. People
Speaker 1: around us do it again and debt Yeah, like like
Speaker 1: it's Mickey Mouse Clubhouse where I can just take it
Speaker 1: on the highpad and go back because you like the episode,
Speaker 1: those are fit whatever, go to the snack bar. Luckily
Speaker 1: I packed tomorrow PB and J, but I got myself.
Speaker 1: Some chicken tenders can't go wrong with that. Some fries
Speaker 1: from Lego Land. From Lego Land, Oh man, I know
Speaker 1: what it is to turn left from Legoland.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Lego Land chicken chicken tenders.
Speaker 8: So Legoland is amazing.
Speaker 1: They have like a bunch of slides that are for
Speaker 1: like lego cars that you can make, and all the
Speaker 1: signs say no slides, like do not slide on this,
Speaker 1: marshalot on everything. Cannot believe we lasted four hours in
Speaker 1: there before being politely asked to leave. Yes, because like
Speaker 1: it's okay when they catch the kid doing it, and
Speaker 1: like the parents like, oh no, no, no, and they're like
Speaker 1: we understand, man. It's because then they catch you allowing
Speaker 1: them to do it two more times. It's like, sir,
Speaker 1: you're not a toddler, like you could stop from doing that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I mean, she likes slides, don't put a
Speaker 1: fucking slide here there. Get Christmas shopping done. I am
Speaker 1: knocking shit out. Mar had a great time. Did Christmas?
Speaker 1: Get back to the crib? Mara has another one of
Speaker 1: those nights, don't sleep at all, And I'm like, cool,
Speaker 1: whatever mom comes tomorrow. Maybe I'll get like two or
Speaker 1: three hours of sleep when she comes. I could take
Speaker 1: a nap. Morning runs around my entire stomach.
Speaker 6: Drops chicken tenders.
Speaker 1: I'm talking hugging porcelain chicken tenders.
Speaker 2: But what you had to have eaten after that? No,
Speaker 2: you didn't. You just had chicken and had dinner.
Speaker 1: No, that was because it was that was like towards
Speaker 1: the end of the night. Yet I didn't because I
Speaker 1: was just trying to get a mar to sleep and
Speaker 1: I just sometimes when I have to sleep on the floor,
Speaker 1: I'll fall asleep with her. Dinner's not gonna happen. So
Speaker 1: hugging porcelain while I have a toddler screaming waffles, waffles,
Speaker 1: waffles to me, what song is throwing up? And you know, Amar,
Speaker 1: she's curious about that, like she's looking in the bowl like, yo,
Speaker 1: what is Let me put my hand over, like, oh.
Speaker 2: You were throwing up? Yes, I thought you just had.
Speaker 8: So mind you.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna get too much information. But there's another
Speaker 1: part of food poisoning that isn't your mouth.
Speaker 6: Yeah, double end.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to hold that in while my daughter
Speaker 1: is in there screaming waffles while I'm throwing it nice.
Speaker 1: So my mom finally comes and I'm like, mom, can
Speaker 1: you take her? And I just immediately run back to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, where I spend another thirty minutes. Come back.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Mom, I have food poisoning for sure, Like
Speaker 1: I've had it before. This is definitely food poisoning. And
Speaker 1: she goes, okay, so do you want to get the
Speaker 1: tree from the garage? Now?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I said no, no, no, you're not hearing anything.
Speaker 6: No, you're not hearing her.
Speaker 1: I need to go lay down, like for I have
Speaker 1: food poisoning for real. After you get the tree though, okay,
Speaker 1: go yeah, we'll do the tree like drink of ginger ale.
Speaker 1: You'll be okay. I don't think you're understanding, like the severity.
Speaker 1: So this is the was like ten am and my
Speaker 1: mom's like, do you have any food? I was like,
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to go grocery shopping. It
Speaker 1: was a long week last week. She's like, all right, well,
Speaker 1: can you run out and go get us some food?
Speaker 1: I said, Mom, I don't think you're understanding.
Speaker 6: No, you not understand it.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, on the way back up you
Speaker 1: can bring the tree up and all the bioms of
Speaker 1: Christmas stuff and groceries. So I go get get her
Speaker 1: food and she's like, why aren't you eating? Because you
Speaker 1: know family, you have to eat. When everyone eats, everyone
Speaker 1: has to do. Yeah, why aren't you eating because I
Speaker 1: have food poisoning. I don't think you've been hearing me
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 6: She's supposed to eat. On top of the poison, schedule.
Speaker 1: A play date with Lamara, one of my friends and
Speaker 1: his daughter to come, all activities. So I have another
Speaker 1: additional toddler, which for some reason didn't tell me that
Speaker 1: that stepsister was bringing the stepsister. So I have three
Speaker 1: toddlers running around. My mom's sitting wondering why I'm not
Speaker 1: standing on ladders, put fucking putting missiletoes up and shit, yeah,
Speaker 1: crushed that, knock everything out in between, I'm running to
Speaker 1: the bathroom, letting it fly, running right back out, wet
Speaker 1: wipes in hands like I was literally nailing stuff with
Speaker 1: wet wipes, like on the side of my pocket. Knock
Speaker 1: all that shit out. Amar's back on her bullshit. That night,
Speaker 1: I get no fucking sleep. My mom slept like a
Speaker 1: fucking baby. Yeah, right across the hall too. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you didn't hear anything last night. She came the next
Speaker 1: morning on Sunday and goes, oh, so thank god Amars
Speaker 1: slept through the night. I said, oh, and mind you,
Speaker 1: my food boys aint started Saturday. It kicked in even
Speaker 1: worse Sunday morning, not eating, not getting any sleep on
Speaker 1: a cold fucking floor. Yeah, my mom said, Oh, luckily
Speaker 1: she slept through the nights. Her room is closer to
Speaker 1: a Mars than minus. I know you heard that fucking screaming.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, nah means nothing.
Speaker 1: To And every other day my mom wakes up at
Speaker 1: five am, slept in, trolled out, ten am.
Speaker 6: Slept in. Yeah, nice, good sleep.
Speaker 1: So we had planned for Sunday to go see my cousin.
Speaker 1: He just had a son stop Jersey. I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: my mom has finally gotten the hint that I'm just
Speaker 1: going to stay in. Yeah, what time you want to leave?
Speaker 1: I said, Mom, I have food for thing. I can't
Speaker 1: go in the Jersey term fike without shitting. I cannot
Speaker 1: drive an hour and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 6: Who's your dad?
Speaker 9: I would have know what your dad would have said
Speaker 9: through all of this, because there's polar opposite your mom
Speaker 9: and dad.
Speaker 1: Oh my dad would My dad would have been like, wait,
Speaker 1: there was a plan. I my mom says, we'll just
Speaker 1: have a ginger all and eat a bagel, Like, all right,
Speaker 1: you are still not here. I'm done, I'm done even
Speaker 1: trying to explain this. All right, cool, at least help
Speaker 1: me pack up the fucking car. Yeah, so we drive
Speaker 1: all the way down. Mar has another amazing fucking day
Speaker 1: drive back up. Clog probably clogged the toilet at my
Speaker 1: cousin's house, which is also embarrassing when there's a bunch
Speaker 1: of people. But I also didn't know and like, there's
Speaker 1: only the one down.
Speaker 6: That's how you meet him. That was your first time
Speaker 6: meeting up part of the family.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, my cousin had like friends and other people over.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just just them, and you had to take
Speaker 1: a shit. And then my mom, as fucked up as
Speaker 1: she is, keeps going where do you keep disappearing to
Speaker 1: and like shaming me, Like why aren't you hanging out
Speaker 1: with everyone?
Speaker 8: Like do you like this? Back to my childhood?
Speaker 1: Just not believing me on any you think I'm making
Speaker 1: up food poisoning right now, I've crushed everything this weekend
Speaker 1: with food poisoning and you're asking me in front of people,
Speaker 1: why keep disappearing? Get off your phone. I'm not on
Speaker 1: my phone unless I'm taking a shit.
Speaker 8: Get Amara back.
Speaker 1: She had a somewhat of a better night, but again,
Speaker 1: I'm running on like three hours of sleep total. Stomach
Speaker 1: is starting to feel a little bit better. Get Amara down,
Speaker 1: my mom goes asleep. She wakes back up, and I'm
Speaker 1: actually trying to make food for the first time to
Speaker 1: like really eat because I hadn't eaten anything. And she goes,
Speaker 1: stop making so much noise, you'll wake up Amara.
Speaker 8: So you go home now.
Speaker 6: Your mom hates you, yo, I'm aware.
Speaker 1: So and then she pretends to peeze like she's the
Speaker 1: nicest fucking woman ever. So then I'm driving Amara into
Speaker 1: the city this morning before we have to record. She
Speaker 1: projectile vomits everywhere. Coming out of the Holland Tunnel drenched
Speaker 1: in throw up.
Speaker 5: That's why she had the little Rory Maull shirt on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was planning on just dropping her because
Speaker 1: Kiya was downtown anyways, because she had Jerry duty or
Speaker 1: some shit. So instead of me having to go look down,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, we could just I'll drop her
Speaker 1: off to you at the studio. Wasn't the plan that
Speaker 1: Kiya and Omara were going to be hanging out the
Speaker 1: studio whatsoever. It's just when I got here there was
Speaker 1: more throw up, and she did it like quietly, which
Speaker 1: scared me because I didn't know she projectile vomited until
Speaker 1: I got to the parking garage and I went was like,
Speaker 1: what the she was still watching her iPad that was
Speaker 1: covered and throw up yo, and it's all over this
Speaker 1: seats and mind you up into the garage right and
Speaker 1: you know how the guy comes and like how long?
Speaker 1: He doesn't speak any English, so but I didn't know
Speaker 1: that at first. I was like probably like five, five
Speaker 1: thirty pm. He said no English, one, two, three. I
Speaker 1: think he was trying to say how many towers and
Speaker 1: I was like five whatever. So I don't think much
Speaker 1: of that. But then I come around the side of
Speaker 1: the car to take Amara out and see this massacre
Speaker 1: in my back seat and the guy that doesn't speak
Speaker 1: English is trying to rush me because there's cars behind.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm trying to explain to you that
Speaker 1: my daughter threw up everywhere, like I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: him to come around to look he doesn't speak English.
Speaker 8: And I had such a relief. I don't care. If
Speaker 8: you're a parent, you understand this.
Speaker 1: People that aren't parents are going to say like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a shitty parent. I was driving here with such
Speaker 1: delight that I was about to get the night that's
Speaker 1: so fucking excited, Like I did it like every fucking
Speaker 1: test I passed, and I did it with flying colors,
Speaker 1: even though I was dying.
Speaker 8: Me and Omar are cool.
Speaker 6: I felt like a good dad.
Speaker 1: Only one missedtep the entire time. She learned to say
Speaker 1: Rory instead of dadda. I thought that was gonna happen
Speaker 1: when she was thirteen. But now she calls me by
Speaker 1: my first name, which I didn't know how if.
Speaker 8: That was disrespect or not.
Speaker 1: As soon as I think I'm getting to the finish line,
Speaker 1: vomit everywhere.
Speaker 6: Hold that that's a pardon gift.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so nobody's fucking with me in these dad streets.
Speaker 1: So you gotta get the car detailed now one hundred percent.
Speaker 5: And right now it's just soaking in your seats.
Speaker 9: Luckily it's cold out, though, because if it was hot
Speaker 9: out and that shit was soaking in the garage, just cooking.
Speaker 8: Like that, Okay, but no, it was scared was.
Speaker 6: And blooney as soon as you open the door.
Speaker 8: Because it's cold.
Speaker 1: I still had to walk down here, and she had
Speaker 1: her winter coat, but I didn't want to put her
Speaker 1: winter coat on because it would just get drenched and
Speaker 1: throw up. So I tried to like make shift put
Speaker 1: her winter coat over the stroller and then dead sprint
Speaker 1: down here but in the neighborhood where And I'm not
Speaker 1: going to say, but you know, yeah, tough to maneuver
Speaker 1: with all those fucking carts and these people don't give
Speaker 1: a fuck. No, so no courtesy, try to run down
Speaker 1: the street.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, well good job. I mean, you know, minus
Speaker 9: the the vomit and everything. Sounds like you had a
Speaker 9: good weekend with Tomorra.
Speaker 1: No, it was great, it was just it was challenging.
Speaker 1: I'm on no sleep.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, we get to sleep tonight, though I can't
Speaker 9: get some good sleep.
Speaker 1: Not fucking wait, what did you two delinkis.
Speaker 6: Do this weekend?
Speaker 4: I was home, well, I went to a funeral and
Speaker 4: then I was condolences. I'm an old friend of mine past.
Speaker 6: Okay, condolences, condolences.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, after that, I just was mentally just gone.
Speaker 5: So I just was in my house all day all night.
Speaker 1: Could have given given me some leftovers if you really
Speaker 1: wanted to spice up the weekend.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm good. I actually made Sunday sauce, some scratch
Speaker 4: on ig Sunday sauce that's authentic Italian spaghetti, soft red sauce.
Speaker 9: Oh nice, So like you matched like the tomatoes yourself
Speaker 9: and all. It put them in a blendo. He was
Speaker 9: like hand hand to hand combat.
Speaker 4: And you buy a peeled tomatoes, you get you. I'm
Speaker 4: not peeling them. You buy peeled tomatoes and you crush him.
Speaker 5: It was good.
Speaker 6: It came you had stomach poisoned food poison them as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, alcohol is like food, probably both. Well I'm blaming
Speaker 3: the food though. Kendall came down. Well, he came up
Speaker 3: because he's going home for the week with the kindle.
Speaker 3: My brother Kendall came in for the night. Saturday night,
Speaker 3: we had dinner with our cousin, went to his great
Speaker 3: Moroccan spot that I love, ate a bunch. Then I
Speaker 3: ended up having a going out, have a bunch of drinks.
Speaker 3: And then I woke up on yesterday and I have
Speaker 3: been just I've gone to the bathroom like twenty times,
Speaker 3: not peeing, not throwing up, though I haven't thrown up.
Speaker 3: I mean, but I have no food in my system,
Speaker 3: so I'm just like it's just it's just like I'm
Speaker 3: squirting water. Yeah, it's allowed. It's like a super soaker, nasty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Porcelain and then it just bounces back and hits me.
Speaker 6: Give mister jay nasty. No, that's a good name.
Speaker 3: So I've been It's like I feel like I got
Speaker 3: an anima.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: We literally told you to keep system out.
Speaker 3: Though, and I couldn't even I'm on e that little
Speaker 3: bit of ram and I had before we recorded. That's
Speaker 3: that's all I've put in my system in the last
Speaker 3: twenty four hours. Yeah, that and two ginger ales.
Speaker 1: I just just tried with this bagel. Yeah, because last night,
Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't wake up tomorrow.
Speaker 6: Right, Please don't whatever you do, if you can, throw
Speaker 6: it like.
Speaker 1: You get up when she gets up, Like I'm banging
Speaker 1: pots and pans right now.
Speaker 8: It's my I'm gonna be the one to deal with it.
Speaker 1: But maybe I shouldn't put that on Lego Land because
Speaker 1: when Julian came in here and told me his symptoms,
Speaker 1: I have very similar ones. So maybe outside of a lawsuit, plus,
Speaker 1: let me not put that on Lego lands jacket. Is
Speaker 1: there something going around?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I did. I had so much
Speaker 3: to drink. I think it was just like my body
Speaker 3: was like, couldn't you stop?
Speaker 2: It was one of those nights.
Speaker 3: Where I was like, just so, you probably had alcohol boys,
Speaker 3: and I was also done, but I didn't wake up
Speaker 3: hungover like.
Speaker 4: I was also thinking that to Rory, like if it,
Speaker 4: hopefully it is just food poisoning, because if it's not
Speaker 4: food poisoning, you just said that Amara just projectile vomited
Speaker 4: in your back seat. You might have given it to
Speaker 4: her thinking that it was food poisoning and it's actually
Speaker 4: a bug.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought that too, but I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: want that, so what the She was very like say
Speaker 1: it out loud. But I didn't have a fever, even though,
Speaker 1: because I kept waking up on the floor in in
Speaker 1: cold sweats, and then I would be really hot, like
Speaker 1: you know when you have a fever and you wake
Speaker 1: up and it's always odd and the temperature is the same.
Speaker 8: That happened two nights in a row, pillow drenched.
Speaker 1: Still didn't have a fever though, So that's why I
Speaker 1: assumed it was food poison Oh, you took your temperature. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a.
Speaker 6: Word for take it through the mouth, through the.
Speaker 1: There it was only exiting.
Speaker 2: Through the rector.
Speaker 6: You can get the real numbers through the rectors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's more accurate.
Speaker 9: So whatever your mouth said, put like a three point
Speaker 9: four on top adjust for wind.
Speaker 4: That was the worst part of childhood was that I
Speaker 4: used to like at some point my parents stopped because
Speaker 4: I used to fight them, like, yo, chill, put the
Speaker 4: one in my mouth, bro, I know that there's the
Speaker 4: one that goes in my mouth.
Speaker 5: Why you keep using the booty one?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: They actually yes.
Speaker 4: I fucking hated that, bro, and we had to like,
Speaker 4: why do y'all keep using the one that goes in
Speaker 4: my rectum?
Speaker 5: But they said, like they said, it's more accurate.
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck andful because I've been with
Speaker 1: Lamara at appointments where they did a mouth one even
Speaker 1: for a toddler, and then on Thanksgiving when I had
Speaker 1: brought her, they went through the ass and I was like,
Speaker 1: is this different insurance?
Speaker 8: I don't like I've seen I've seen how do.
Speaker 1: Mouth before United Healthcare?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like what is ma?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry? pH my bad, bro, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: There's a triple on Santra I just hits you from
Speaker 1: the back, can you.
Speaker 2: That's a sick transition to our main today.
Speaker 1: Don't even ask him out because he will reply. On
Speaker 1: the Rock Nation, Instagram if you ask him out, All right,
Speaker 1: this was okay. I feel like, no matter what we
Speaker 1: say today, you guys will not accept it. We will
Speaker 1: be wrong no matter what angle we go with.
Speaker 2: So I don't you mean, what the angle we go with?
Speaker 6: What angle we're supposed to go with.
Speaker 1: No matter what, we are going to tell our real
Speaker 1: feelings on this, but they will find some way to
Speaker 1: make this seem like we're hypocrites on other stuff and
Speaker 1: it's our guys, so it can't be.
Speaker 8: And I don't really give a fuck about that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't care about what people.
Speaker 1: Because when I thought about it last night, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is going to be like a lose lose with
Speaker 1: the listeners because we'll go in with our honest opinion
Speaker 1: and with this, you can't win with these topics. All right,
Speaker 1: at some point you're always going to say the wrong
Speaker 1: thing to the internet because they are perfect.
Speaker 9: Give me your honest opinion, because mom is gonna be
Speaker 9: very short.
Speaker 6: Just give me.
Speaker 8: Now, let's go through the timeline.
Speaker 1: First, Let's get it went up to speed that may
Speaker 1: not know what's going on, and then we'll get to that.
Speaker 8: Right while I was on the toilet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much scrolling through Instagram. H I see that
Speaker 1: jay Z is facing allegations in a lawsuit with Diddy,
Speaker 1: and it ended up in our group chat, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is probably one of those like
Speaker 1: drifting right wing because they've been saying the shit about
Speaker 1: Puff since I'm sorry about Jay since the Puff thing,
Speaker 1: which we always found weird, like why do y'all there's
Speaker 1: no there's been no talk or evidence of Jay ever
Speaker 1: being that. Why do you guys want him to be
Speaker 1: guilty so bad? So when you guys put it in
Speaker 1: the chat, I thought it was just another one of
Speaker 1: like Matt Wallace things, and then it said LA four
Speaker 1: news or whatever, and I was like, fucked that it
Speaker 1: was kind of legit. Kept scrolling every quote unquote legit
Speaker 1: publication was posting jay Z facing allegations in lawsuit with
Speaker 1: Ditty civil lawsuit that is of raping a thirteen year
Speaker 1: old girl at an after party following the two thousand
Speaker 1: MTV Video Music Awards. So the Internet has about fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes to react to this entire thing. Wherever everyone is celebrating,
Speaker 1: which I always find really odd. I think people that
Speaker 1: are guilty, we should celebrate that they are being caught.
Speaker 1: But I always find it funny when people celebrate the
Speaker 1: possibility of a child being raped, like I want everyone
Speaker 1: on the Epstein list to see their day in court, right,
Speaker 1: But I'm not celebrating the sex trafficking that happened. Like
Speaker 1: people get off on they're excited, like I told you
Speaker 1: he was raping kids. Yeah, you seem like really really
Speaker 1: happy about that. M So we about fifteen minutes of that,
Speaker 1: everyone said, we told you so, everything's being exposed this year.
Speaker 1: They didn't know whove has WiFi and sits on his
Speaker 1: couch often. We got a message immediately.
Speaker 9: Well that, well you know that response. I think I
Speaker 9: think people are smart enough to understand that Jay Z
Speaker 9: and his team knew that this was coming. In fact,
Speaker 9: they actually pushed for it, because if you know what
Speaker 9: Jay Z is and where he's at in his life
Speaker 9: and his lawyers, if there was any validity to this whatsoever,
Speaker 9: they could have stepped on this and this would have
Speaker 9: never seen the light of day, could have settled it
Speaker 9: out for some type of payout or whatever. But the
Speaker 9: fact that you know, Jay knows who he is and
Speaker 9: is not going to allow people to try to pull
Speaker 9: him down some weird nasty hole. He said, no, let's
Speaker 9: let's let this go public and let me show you
Speaker 9: exactly who I am, and.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a lyric breakdown of his response. But
Speaker 1: I did see a lot of the replies to this
Speaker 1: was he replied too quick, that's suspicious. But then when
Speaker 1: people take too long, it's suspicious. Can someone tell me
Speaker 1: the exact time you should reply.
Speaker 6: To allegation twenty seven minutes?
Speaker 1: I would like to know twenty seven minutes after the allegations,
Speaker 1: Jay started out with I mean, Maul, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to read this because one you know all right to
Speaker 1: your bloodline, and two I can't read it. Did out
Speaker 1: the gate seem like this was actually written by which
Speaker 1: as we've seen with the people that are guilty and
Speaker 1: not guilty, everything sounds like a weird PR thing that
Speaker 1: makes them look even more nuts. The way you and
Speaker 1: I have always said, if somebody came out and alleged
Speaker 1: that I shot a woman or I was alleged with
Speaker 1: sexual assault, I'm coming out immediately as myself. There won't
Speaker 1: be a PR person. I would take the stand. I
Speaker 1: will come on this mic and say, yo, that was
Speaker 1: not me.
Speaker 8: If I am not.
Speaker 1: Guilty of something. You will see me right, not the
Speaker 1: pr person.
Speaker 6: Exactly, all right.
Speaker 9: So Jay released a statement via Rock Nations Instagram. He says,
Speaker 9: my lawyer received a blackmail attempt called a demand letter
Speaker 9: from a lawyer quotations. He made sure you put that
Speaker 9: in quotes lawyer named Tony Busby. What he had calculated
Speaker 9: was the nature of these allegations and the public scrutiny
Speaker 9: would make me want to settle.
Speaker 6: No, sir, it exist. It had the opposite effect.
Speaker 9: It made me want to expose you for the fraud
Speaker 9: you are in a very public fashion.
Speaker 6: So no, I will not give you one red pinion.
Speaker 6: All right.
Speaker 1: So already more context than anything we really got from
Speaker 1: the other publications within the first fifteen minutes. There wasn't
Speaker 1: a lot of detail in those except for there was
Speaker 1: a civil lawsuit. Now it appears like it's a specific
Speaker 1: lawyer that is behind this, rather than say, a alleged victim. Right,
Speaker 1: this is something that he has been doing allegedly for
Speaker 1: quite some time.
Speaker 9: These allegations are so heinous in nature that I implore
Speaker 9: you to follow a criminal complaint, not a civil one.
Speaker 9: Whomever would commit such achromicust the mind that should be
Speaker 9: locked away. Would you not agree these alleged victims would
Speaker 9: deserve real justice if that were the case. This lawyer,
Speaker 9: who I have done a bit of research on, seems
Speaker 9: to have a pattern of these type of theatrics. I
Speaker 9: have no idea how you have to how you have
Speaker 9: come to be such a deplorable human, mister Busby, But
Speaker 9: I promise you I have seen your con many times over.
Speaker 9: I'm more than prepared to deal with your type. You
Speaker 9: claim to be a marine. Marines are known for their valor.
Speaker 9: You have neither honor nor dignity.
Speaker 1: We can stop there, and I do want to get
Speaker 1: into the second part of this, but I do want
Speaker 1: to react first to the top of that message. We
Speaker 1: later got more details about this lawyer filing this lawsuit
Speaker 1: back in October, where Jay could have easily had the
Speaker 1: girl sign an NDA, give her a lump sum of
Speaker 1: money and it would disappear, which he went on to say, no,
Speaker 1: fuck that, Let's go all the way with it, which
Speaker 1: to me says a lot. I see people comparing these
Speaker 1: two things between Puff and Jay, two people are doing
Speaker 1: completely different paths in quote unquote allegations. Now, I think
Speaker 1: everyone should have due process including the alleged victim, and
Speaker 1: we should see this thing through just going off the
Speaker 1: first actions from the outside looking in of what Puff
Speaker 1: did after a full detailed report, that is, by the way,
Speaker 1: not just a lawyer filing something in behind the scenes
Speaker 1: to try to get someone to settle paperwork. When Clear
Speaker 1: and Puff, before we could even finish those documents settled.
Speaker 8: The NDA happened. Jay said no to all of that.
Speaker 1: If you want to go public, you can't blackmail me
Speaker 1: by saying, oh, I'll take this public if you want
Speaker 1: do it, let's fucking go there.
Speaker 9: He continues and says, My only heartbreak is for my family.
Speaker 9: My wife and I will have to sit our children down,
Speaker 9: one of whom is at the age where our friends
Speaker 9: will surely see the press and ask questions about the
Speaker 9: nature of these claims and explain the cruelty and greed
Speaker 9: of people. I'm mourning yet another loss of innocence. Children
Speaker 9: should not have to endure such at their young age.
Speaker 9: It is unfair to have to try to understand ine
Speaker 9: inexplicable degrees of malice meant to destroy families and human spirit.
Speaker 9: My heart and support goes out to true victims in
Speaker 9: the world who have to watch how their life story
Speaker 9: is dressed in costume for profitability by this ambulance chaser
Speaker 9: in a cheap suit bars. You have made a terrible
Speaker 9: error in judgment thinking that all celebrities are the same.
Speaker 9: I'm not from your world. I'm a young man who
Speaker 9: made it out of the projects of Brooklyn. We don't
Speaker 9: play these types of games. We have very strict codes
Speaker 9: and honor. We protect children. You seem to exploit people
Speaker 9: for personal gain. Only your network of conspiracy theorists fake
Speaker 9: physics will believe the idiotic claims you have levied against
Speaker 9: me that if not for the seriousness surround at home,
Speaker 9: the kids would be laughable. I look forward to showing
Speaker 9: you just how different I am him.
Speaker 2: In this gamer writer.
Speaker 4: So, I think he meant fake psychics. He just spelled
Speaker 4: it wrong, but you said you did say it right.
Speaker 4: But I think he meant psychics.
Speaker 1: And like why, I think this was really Jay on
Speaker 1: his couches because of the spelling mistakes. I think he
Speaker 1: was all YO, posta shit.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I don't want anyone else.
Speaker 1: To reread this, because you guys are going to start
Speaker 1: telling me to cut shit out or say it differently. No,
Speaker 1: this is how I feel about some crazy shit said
Speaker 1: about me here you gom hm.
Speaker 3: The lawyer Buzzby, obviously a lot of stuff has come
Speaker 3: out about him, and people online and locally in the
Speaker 3: Houston community where he is a lawyer, have said that
Speaker 3: he is notoriously known as a shisty guy and someone
Speaker 3: that's done just kind of bad dealings in the past. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what I've just been reading up on him, in
Speaker 3: the history of him, like in the association I forgot.
Speaker 1: The lawyer that does the no jumper shit, which we
Speaker 1: don't even need to look it up. Who cares? But
Speaker 1: he was on last night saying Buzzby is the most
Speaker 1: successful lawyer in the country, and all the comments under it,
Speaker 1: we're not even like host stands are just a bunch
Speaker 1: of people from Texas going he's not even the best
Speaker 1: lawyer in the county the United What are y'all talking about? Yeah, listen,
Speaker 1: We've always been on the side of victims getting there.
Speaker 1: They're just due. Absolutely, this one, from the information we've
Speaker 1: gotten out the gate, seems like a cash grab. I
Speaker 1: commend Jay for saying, let's go all the way and
Speaker 1: let's make sure all the evidence is on the table. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I would say, let's see this play out. But
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's really going to be much here.
Speaker 1: I think Buzzby's tactic didn't his only plan didn't work.
Speaker 9: I mean, I think they were banking on Jay settling
Speaker 9: out of court for an undisclosed amount. And just just
Speaker 9: so because as we were talking ear off Mike a
Speaker 9: lot of things these days, you know, they'll know that
Speaker 9: they don't have a case, but just the public perception
Speaker 9: being ruined and somebody like jay Z having this accusation
Speaker 9: on his jacket now it affects him moving forward in
Speaker 9: his legacy because whether he's found you know, which I
Speaker 9: believe and I know to be true, that he's one
Speaker 9: thousand percent innocent, it's still going to be something that
Speaker 9: people in certain circles and spaces want to bring up.
Speaker 6: Of course, Oh he had money.
Speaker 9: To make it disappear, just that you know they're gonna
Speaker 9: lean on that part of it. It's this is all
Speaker 9: just a bunch of bullshit. It just is what it is.
Speaker 9: Like jay Z is not raping and holding down the
Speaker 9: thirteen year old girl. That's just not That's that's absolutely
Speaker 9: disgusting to even put that out there with puff well
Speaker 9: another sies it's just absolutely fucking stupid.
Speaker 5: And let's so because.
Speaker 4: We are the whole cast, right, I do want to
Speaker 4: tiptoe around this, not tiptoe, but like I do want
Speaker 4: to be objective in this, and I want you guys
Speaker 4: to share the reasoning for why you don't believe this
Speaker 4: case in general. And I don't want it to just
Speaker 4: be because I know jay Z. I want to talk
Speaker 4: about it's not about knowing.
Speaker 8: I don't even like that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not it at all. It's just this is
Speaker 6: just al Okay.
Speaker 9: So a thirteen year old girls signed the NBA, went
Speaker 9: to an after party, she got raped, She escaped the house,
Speaker 9: made it across the street, down the block to a
Speaker 9: gas station, called her father. Her father picks it up
Speaker 9: from this gas station, which is this was two thousand,
Speaker 9: it spoken to so twenty four years ago, this's happened
Speaker 9: and this is the first time where ever, like the
Speaker 9: father didn't go in.
Speaker 1: I really want to go that route because I do
Speaker 1: think there is a world where that's probably happened somewhere.
Speaker 1: Like it's always tough to say with rape cases time.
Speaker 1: I always think that's a cheap, cheap thing because There's
Speaker 1: been plenty of rape cases that are true that do
Speaker 1: come out twenty years later. It's a rough process for
Speaker 1: women when these types of things happen, especially when they
Speaker 1: are children, and maybe we're out doing something they shouldn't
Speaker 1: have done, like I shouldn't be at this party, and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell anyone that I got raped
Speaker 1: and keep it to themselves. And so they're adults in
Speaker 1: their brain processes it. So that's not why I don't
Speaker 1: think this is true. I think it's the moves that
Speaker 1: have been made since October with this case aren't really
Speaker 1: movements of someone that is guilty.
Speaker 8: It's really where I'm.
Speaker 1: On the side.
Speaker 9: I just none of this ship sounds believable. None of it.
Speaker 6: It's just the most agree I don't like what is this?
Speaker 3: But you can understand because kind of what Demerius is prying,
Speaker 3: like optically, you can understand why the internet and some
Speaker 3: people would feel embolden enough to turn against you and
Speaker 3: say we knew it. He's been this guy, you know,
Speaker 3: And if you all that, they're just kind of going
Speaker 3: with the story, you can see why, Like, because.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna get into people do want to say he's
Speaker 9: been this guy, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: He's well, I mean just the optically, he said. For
Speaker 3: a long standing friendship with Diddy, they do the brunch thing.
Speaker 3: There's obviously all you need is a bunch of photos
Speaker 3: with someone and then means that you're accused of everything
Speaker 3: that person did.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 3: He did the two tours with R Kelly, they have
Speaker 3: two albums together. Like there's just like it's just enough
Speaker 3: for people to be like, oh, yes, this makes sense.
Speaker 4: There's no way you're next to all these nasty people
Speaker 4: not be a nasty but yeah, and I hear what
Speaker 4: you're saying with that that's the way that people think.
Speaker 4: I also think that people are a little slow. And
Speaker 4: I don't mean that in a disrespectful way, but disrespect
Speaker 4: but like, but it's just no, it's because I think supid.
Speaker 4: I think people see celebrities together in pictures and everybody's
Speaker 4: like they're friends, and it's just like they do the
Speaker 4: same ship with us, and if we make it local
Speaker 4: and podcasting, they see us next to other podcasters and
Speaker 4: they assume that we're friends, and it's like we are colleagues,
Speaker 4: we are co workers, we know each other through certain circles.
Speaker 4: If we're not in a podcast studio or at a
Speaker 4: podcasting event.
Speaker 5: We don't see or speak to these people.
Speaker 4: And I think it's the same with from what I've
Speaker 4: heard and from what.
Speaker 1: That's That's why I think you can say that it's
Speaker 1: stupid because I saw last night two people put Puff's
Speaker 1: address and jam Beyonce's address, and they live in the
Speaker 1: same neighborhood, and there was a full blown thread of
Speaker 1: debates of the tunnel that could go through that king
Speaker 1: from Puff's house to Jay and Beyonce's. And granted, I
Speaker 1: don't know Jay like that, like for real, but I
Speaker 1: do know that he doesn't really like Puff the way
Speaker 1: y'all think he likes Puff, to the point that Puff
Speaker 1: couldn't get a key to the house, let alone a
Speaker 1: tunnel into his house a key.
Speaker 6: Look if you invite Yes, this is just is laughable, man.
Speaker 9: And you know, like he said, if it wasn't something
Speaker 9: as serious as kids being sexually assaulted, you would have
Speaker 9: to laugh at this shit.
Speaker 6: Now what are we talking about, man?
Speaker 1: The objective side, because I agree with de Maris, we've
Speaker 1: been admitted whole vengers, so let's be fair here. So
Speaker 1: a lot of people making some fair points of him saying,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll take it to criminal court. We don't
Speaker 1: know what the exact charges are because it was a
Speaker 1: civil lawsuit, but there is statute of limitations on rape,
Speaker 1: so he could be having this bravado because he knows
Speaker 1: it can't go to criminal court and it'll make him
Speaker 1: look better.
Speaker 8: I'm not a lawyer.
Speaker 1: I don't know that's the exact case, but I thought
Speaker 1: that was one of the only fair things to come
Speaker 1: out of a criticism of his approach. And then they
Speaker 1: did the whole timeline between him and Beyonce, which I
Speaker 1: mean she was nineteen, and I've been on record saying
Speaker 1: it's super weird when thirty year olds talk to teenagers,
Speaker 1: and I'll stick by that, but I don't think that
Speaker 1: makes you a pedophile. My only other criticism is it's light.
Speaker 1: I just knew it was going to get misinterpreted and
Speaker 1: it's a trending topic. Now. Jay Z's so honorable, like
Speaker 1: a bunch of fucking idiots, But it's a thing. I
Speaker 1: know at the bottom he was talking about him and
Speaker 1: his crew in the projects. But let's not pretend like
Speaker 1: children are not always protected in the projects and children
Speaker 1: not always harmed in the projects. I know he's talking
Speaker 1: about him and his crew from the projects, and we
Speaker 1: don't play these type of games. We have a strict code.
Speaker 1: That's not always the case in the projects.
Speaker 6: Oh but I know his vantage, his standpoint.
Speaker 9: But people are taking it as people gonna take if
Speaker 9: he said, you know, if he's whatever he said, people
Speaker 9: are going to take it and dissect it and run
Speaker 9: a different way with it. That's just you know, the
Speaker 9: the world we're in now with everybody having you know,
Speaker 9: access to social media and creating accounts, everybody feels like
Speaker 9: they can add in and jump in on a on
Speaker 9: a conversation and just you know, express their their their feelings,
Speaker 9: and you know, that's that's part of it. We understand that,
Speaker 9: which is why public perception. You know, people will hang
Speaker 9: you publicly, you know, so that the public looks at
Speaker 9: you like, oh, he's a piece of shit, when it's like,
Speaker 9: you know, you do realize this. I mean, to this day,
Speaker 9: people still bring up Michael Jackson when it comes to
Speaker 9: pedophilia and it was like, yo, you know that he
Speaker 9: was there was nothing ever found that.
Speaker 6: Is elite leaves even any.
Speaker 9: Amount of credence to those claims, Like people don't know that,
Speaker 9: but they just know that he was in court because
Speaker 9: somebody said that he touched.
Speaker 5: Some kids, and that became his entire.
Speaker 6: And that became a part of his legacy.
Speaker 9: Now when you bring up Michael Jackson, you bring up
Speaker 9: that case, and you bring up all he likes little kids,
Speaker 9: and it's like that's the thing that they stick to you,
Speaker 9: that will follow you forever, even when you're found not guilty.
Speaker 6: And there's no truth to any of these claims.
Speaker 9: And that's the fuck The part about it is that
Speaker 9: no matter what is found here, and like I said,
Speaker 9: I'll stand on it and I'll stand on it forever.
Speaker 9: That I notice is complete bullshit when it comes to
Speaker 9: Jay But I just know publicly what this will do
Speaker 9: to him for the rest of his life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Glad, And I just want to say that I
Speaker 4: think as somebody who again Maul is speaking from a
Speaker 4: different perspective from the rest of us. Because I can't
Speaker 4: speak to jay Z's character because I do not know him,
Speaker 4: I can speak okay, So I know that's why I said,
Speaker 4: you're speaking from a different perspective than the rest of us.
Speaker 5: So as far as.
Speaker 4: Me not being jumping gung hole to believe this actually
Speaker 4: has nothing to do with what I think jay Z's
Speaker 4: character is or what I think he is or isn't
Speaker 4: capable of doing.
Speaker 5: I don't know that man. He could be capable of anything.
Speaker 4: When I'm talking about common sense and the way that
Speaker 4: jay has moved throughout his career, the way that him
Speaker 4: and Beyonce, just the privacy that they have, the idea
Speaker 4: and the notion of jay Z being with Puff and
Speaker 4: holding down no matter how old she was, holding down
Speaker 4: a girl and raping her in a room with Puff
Speaker 4: and another person in the room. That doesn't even even
Speaker 4: if he was nasty, that doesn't make sense with the
Speaker 4: way that jay Z has moved throughout his life in private.
Speaker 5: You're making a joke out of it.
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is if he was to be
Speaker 4: a nasty man, again, I don't know him. If he
Speaker 4: be an objective, if he was to be a nasty man,
Speaker 4: everything jay Z has done in his careers has showed
Speaker 4: that he's not gonna do that shit with the fucking audience.
Speaker 4: So that's what just doesn't make any sense to me,
Speaker 4: not caping for who he is as a person. Like
Speaker 4: I said, I don't know him, but just like putting
Speaker 4: pieces together of the way that people have moved throughout
Speaker 4: their careers.
Speaker 5: Some shit just don't make.
Speaker 1: Sense, And to my fellow conspiracy theorists, we should look
Speaker 1: at every case as its own, not as one big clump.
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill Cosby was trying to buy NBC
Speaker 1: and that's why he clearly was guilty of all the
Speaker 1: shit he was accused of. I don't think it was
Speaker 1: because he was buying NBC and they planted all that
Speaker 1: shit on. I believe that Bill Cosby was a nasty fuck,
Speaker 1: even with the times that he was living in. Still
Speaker 1: a nasty fuck to me. Now, I think Puff is
Speaker 1: a nasty fuck too. Do I think there was maybe
Speaker 1: an agenda because of his situation with Diagio? Sure, but
Speaker 1: two things can be true. I also think Puff is
Speaker 1: a nasty fuck. Was there incentive to try to get
Speaker 1: him the fuck out of here because he wasn't playing
Speaker 1: a game with somebody cool? But the evidence is still there,
Speaker 1: so lock him up. Now, let's treat this situation differently
Speaker 1: because it's a different case. I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: going on with Hove. Gambling is at the highest it's
Speaker 1: ever been on Earth. It's clear that Rock Nation is
Speaker 1: bidding for the Caesars Palace situation in Times Square. I
Speaker 1: don't even need to really explain how big that is
Speaker 1: in the world.
Speaker 8: I could see this being part of it.
Speaker 1: He siddenly had a situation with a who is it
Speaker 1: McCarty McCarty that.
Speaker 8: Didn't play out too well.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that that is why people get
Speaker 1: accused in this situation. With those two things, I could
Speaker 1: see this ambulance Chaser being funded first Mere campaign. When
Speaker 1: some of the biggest companies in the world right now
Speaker 1: are being outbid by a black guy. I could see it.
Speaker 9: I think it's so tied, and it's you know, it's
Speaker 9: the wild part is that I think most people understand
Speaker 9: that that could be part of it. It's like, so
Speaker 9: we know what's going on. We know what happens when
Speaker 9: you reach certain heights and you reach certain levels and
Speaker 9: you start having certain conversations, you know, and rubbing shoulders
Speaker 9: with some guys that never thought that you would make
Speaker 9: it anywhere near their boardroom and now they're sitting there
Speaker 9: and they.
Speaker 6: Have to outbid you.
Speaker 9: You know, people don't like that, so they you know,
Speaker 9: they try to, you know, reach back in the past
Speaker 9: and find something anything that will damage you, you know,
Speaker 9: the perception of who you are and and the legacy
Speaker 9: that you've created. Just so it may kind of hinder,
Speaker 9: you know, whatever you're trying to do on the business front.
Speaker 9: It'll turn some people away. Some people might not want
Speaker 9: to be attached to business wise, they don't want to
Speaker 9: stand next to you anymore. It's a nasty game, man,
Speaker 9: It's a nasty game when you reach those heights. And
Speaker 9: you know, I just think somebody like Jay is obviously,
Speaker 9: you know, if you listen to his music throughout the years,
Speaker 9: he's he's he knows what's coming, He's prepared for it.
Speaker 9: He understands the game that he's in now, he understands
Speaker 9: that he's you know, he's not wanted in certain certain rooms,
Speaker 9: in certain positions. You know, I just think it's fucked
Speaker 9: up and it's unfortunate that he has to deal with this.
Speaker 9: But again, man, I you know, I'm on the side
Speaker 9: of knowing who Jay is as a person, knowing his character,
Speaker 9: knowing where his moral compass is. And you know, when
Speaker 9: you start talking about abusing, sexually assaulting kids, you know,
Speaker 9: that's just not that's just not in his character at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again I think everything is case by case basis.
Speaker 1: I fully think there's a bunch nasty fucking people in
Speaker 1: the music industry. Oh for sure, that Jay has rubbed
Speaker 1: shoulders with clearly joint albums and everything. I totally get
Speaker 1: that outrage, and I think that's something that you know,
Speaker 1: should should have been addressed at some point. I think
Speaker 1: Hole probably thought it's just been so long that addressing
Speaker 1: the r Kelly situation would have been weird. But I
Speaker 1: do fully understand people that are at least sane and
Speaker 1: not on the crazy conspiracy side of like there's you know,
Speaker 1: Dead Children and Beyonce and jay Z's basement. Hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would question that as a casual fan, like, all right,
Speaker 1: everyone knew and you did a tour with him, and
Speaker 1: then Aleah was around.
Speaker 8: Like, I get the logic of that.
Speaker 1: It's not my place to try to explain it would
Speaker 1: be theirs, But I see why people want a explanation
Speaker 1: for that. Again, I'm I get why someone would be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: but this was this was not like some rape shit,
Speaker 1: but this was weird. R Kelly was rape, right.
Speaker 9: But you say, see that even when you say you
Speaker 9: know on tour R Kelly did music. It's a bunch
Speaker 9: of artists that sure have toured with R Kelly. It's
Speaker 9: a bunch of musicians that tour with R Kelly, it's
Speaker 9: a bunch of publicists, it's a bunch of fucking like
Speaker 9: so none of those people are considered nasty, I agree
Speaker 9: with It's just it's just the artist that did the
Speaker 9: song with them.
Speaker 1: And see, this goes back to our conversation. I think
Speaker 1: it was like at the top of this year maybe
Speaker 1: where we came in here and said, like, it's tough
Speaker 1: to go through with this music industry shit, because no
Speaker 1: matter what, you're gonna feel like a hypocrite. Even if
Speaker 1: I don't know what people do in their own bedrooms.
Speaker 1: You rub shoulders in this fucking demonic and I'm not
Speaker 1: doing Illuminati shit, this demonic industry and shit comes out
Speaker 1: and it's you're like, fuck, like, doesn't make you a
Speaker 1: bad person. You did not know, you did not participate,
Speaker 1: but you're still part of it. And to have an
Speaker 1: explanation for everyone that works within show business, all of
Speaker 1: us are gonna have to go to the podium and
Speaker 1: be like, well, yeah, I worked with them, right, But
Speaker 1: some people say, with Jay, you know, Aliah was hanging
Speaker 1: out with them dating Dame. Dame has been vocal that
Speaker 1: Aliah explained the situation. H So that's also where people
Speaker 1: are like, all right, if you knew that, why would
Speaker 1: you work with him?
Speaker 8: But I don't know. There could be more to the story.
Speaker 9: Right, But either way, it's unfortunate again to see, you know,
Speaker 9: somebody like Jay have to go through this and you know,
Speaker 9: we're just gonna have to sit back and watch this,
Speaker 9: watch this play out over the next few months.
Speaker 1: And yet listen, this is not Hope bias here. Let
Speaker 1: it go to court.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's true. But if it's true, fuck him.
Speaker 9: Yeah, no, absolutely, And but in his response, he's he's
Speaker 9: on that second.
Speaker 2: Let it go to court.
Speaker 6: Again.
Speaker 9: This could have been stepped on and we never would
Speaker 9: have his name would have never been involved in any
Speaker 9: of this. They could have stepped on this months ago,
Speaker 9: settled out and we would have never gotten any of this.
Speaker 9: But the fact that you know him and his team
Speaker 9: was like, no, no, no, no, no, we're not settling nothing.
Speaker 6: Let them.
Speaker 9: That speaks to when you know exactly who you are, like, oh,
Speaker 9: this is what I think I've done in my life. Okay,
Speaker 9: all right, well let's go to court and and let's
Speaker 9: let the evidence. Put everything on the desk, and show
Speaker 9: me where you think.
Speaker 6: That I did that.
Speaker 3: Tony Busby put out a statement following Jay's statement regarding
Speaker 3: the jay Z case. In his efforts to since my clients,
Speaker 3: mister Carter previously denied being the one who sued me
Speaker 3: and my firm. He filed his frivolous case under a pseudonym.
Speaker 3: What he fails to say in his recent statement is
Speaker 3: that my firm sent his lawyer a demand letter on
Speaker 3: behalf of an alleged victim, and that victim never demanded
Speaker 3: a penny from him. Instead, she only sought a confidential mediation.
Speaker 1: Can you stop real quick, Julian, Yeah, I read this
Speaker 1: last night and was confused. And again, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Lawyer Jorgon is a lawyer calling his own client an
Speaker 1: alleged victim.
Speaker 5: Well, you always say alleged victim.
Speaker 1: No, a good lawyer gets in front and says my
Speaker 1: client was abused, that person is guilty. I've never heard
Speaker 1: a lawyer unless they were on the side of the
Speaker 1: person getting accused of something. This is all allegations. This
Speaker 1: isn't true, But a lawyer that is defending a victim
Speaker 1: would never say, And I could be reading this wrong
Speaker 1: because I'm stupid, and I'm sure in the comments still
Speaker 1: show how stupid I am. But I read that as
Speaker 1: why is it lawyer saying alleged? Yeah, that's crazy for
Speaker 1: your defense to say alleged. But go ahead, Julie, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: that's a fair point.
Speaker 3: It's funny you say that because there was a clip
Speaker 3: going around about Busby talking about the Diddy case in particular.
Speaker 8: He's been around for a couple of the ones that we're.
Speaker 3: In and openly saying some of the stuff is not substantiated.
Speaker 3: He's just sometimes you just go with stuff even before
Speaker 3: it becomes a fact. He's filed a bunch openly saying that,
Speaker 3: and Puff's Puff's.
Speaker 1: Lawyer replied to this too, we don't need to read that.
Speaker 1: But to Mall's point, what sucks is Puff's lawyer is
Speaker 1: right maybe in that response because this is probably bullshit.
Speaker 1: And then it has people looking like, oh well, if
Speaker 1: that case man, maybe someone just other puff shit isn't true,
Speaker 1: like it takes away from it actual victims and maybebe
Speaker 1: it's not Maybe it's not because that woman originally filed
Speaker 1: against Puff for the rape, and that could very well
Speaker 1: be true. And then later they added in that Jay
Speaker 1: was right there too. But it takes away from this
Speaker 1: entire thing because if Hope takes this all the way
Speaker 1: and it's clear that he is not guilty, I think
Speaker 1: that has people questioning wrongfully. So a lot of the
Speaker 1: Puff shit, which is like crazy, that's.
Speaker 6: What he spoke to.
Speaker 9: There's real victims, you know, there's people that really this
Speaker 9: is their life, They really dealt with you like this.
Speaker 9: So for somebody to be trying to put these claims
Speaker 9: on you just for a money grab or you know,
Speaker 9: just to you know, assassinate my character publicly, it's a
Speaker 9: slap in the face to you know, women that live
Speaker 9: with this type of pain and trauma and to see that,
Speaker 9: you know, people that just pop out and have these
Speaker 9: what they call egregious claims, you know, it kind of
Speaker 9: fucks up all of those other cases because now you
Speaker 9: start questioning everything. You start saying, oh, I don't we've
Speaker 9: seen this before somebody said this and come to find
Speaker 9: out they were lying and they were just trying to
Speaker 9: do this and do it so, you know, it's it's
Speaker 9: all around. It's just a it's a real, real fucked
Speaker 9: up situation. But you know, I like the fact that
Speaker 9: you know him. Jay and his team they're like, Okay,
Speaker 9: well we're not gonna, you know, just cash out and
Speaker 9: try to resolve this quietly. No, no, no, let's make this
Speaker 9: public and let me show you again. Like you said,
Speaker 9: let me show you exactly how different I am.
Speaker 1: So yeah, which I thought would be a great name
Speaker 1: for his next album, but it's attached to something that's
Speaker 1: fucked up.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, I mean, but let.
Speaker 8: Me show you how different I am. I would love
Speaker 8: to hear that album.
Speaker 4: I mean, only you would name your album something like that.
Speaker 5: She wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, for the past few albums, that's been his theme.
Speaker 1: Let me show you all different.
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have different in off his album title.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a fact.
Speaker 3: Let's finish his statement real quick, because he does have
Speaker 3: a few months since I sent the letter on her behalf,
Speaker 3: mister Carter has not only sued me, but has tried
Speaker 3: to bully and harass me and this plaintiff. His conduct
Speaker 3: has had His conduct has had the opposite impact.
Speaker 2: She's emboldened, and I am proud of her resolve.
Speaker 3: As far as the allegations and the complaint filed, we
Speaker 3: will let the filing speak for itself and we will
Speaker 3: litigate the facts in the court, not in the media.
Speaker 1: So he also went on Instagram and said people are
Speaker 1: Now this is before I went public. He said people
Speaker 1: were harassing his children and all this that's where these
Speaker 1: things start.
Speaker 6: To the lawyer.
Speaker 1: Yes on his ig when he showed when he posted
Speaker 1: his photo of him as a marine, because Jay brought
Speaker 1: up the marine. Shit, oh that's just another thing. Is
Speaker 1: not my hoe bias. I don't think Hove's team is
Speaker 1: that stupid that they would send someone to harass his children,
Speaker 1: Like I.
Speaker 8: Just that's just dumb.
Speaker 6: No, that's just not just It.
Speaker 1: Takes away more credibility from this guy. Yeah, there's no
Speaker 1: way that Hove's legal team is sending people to rasher children.
Speaker 9: But what does this say though obviously it says you know, now,
Speaker 9: Jay is one of the guys that people are probably
Speaker 9: gonna gun for now. He's obviously reached that level. We've
Speaker 9: been at that level for some time now.
Speaker 1: I think there's been plenty of I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: sexual assault stuff, but there's been plenty of civil lawsuits.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we know nothing about Oh yeah that hit
Speaker 1: holds desk for sure, weekly for sure.
Speaker 6: And this is just you know, this is one that
Speaker 6: I guess. I'm guessing that his team was like no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 6: no no, no, no, no enough.
Speaker 9: I think it was Jay Oh no, I definitely think
Speaker 9: that part of it.
Speaker 6: I'm not. I'm not doubting that at all.
Speaker 9: But again, that's because you know, when you just know
Speaker 9: who you are, man, it's just I don't care what accusations.
Speaker 9: I don't care who's saying what all right, what they
Speaker 9: saying about? All right, come on, man, sit down, let's
Speaker 9: put this out publicly, like all right, worry.
Speaker 6: I think that's what I was doing.
Speaker 4: And I also think that I also think that Blue
Speaker 4: Ivy getting older has a lot to do with shit
Speaker 4: now because it's now is like like he said, like
Speaker 4: people can tell my kid this. Yeah yeah, now, we
Speaker 4: ain't now it's I'm not talking to you like now,
Speaker 4: I'm you know, I can't just be jay Z ignore
Speaker 4: everything now because I have a kid who has to
Speaker 4: go to fucking school.
Speaker 6: You know, I have a.
Speaker 9: Daughter that's of age and her friends, you know, they
Speaker 9: they're all online and they read things, and obviously they
Speaker 9: know who her parents are.
Speaker 4: And she's supposed to be doing press right now, she's
Speaker 4: in the new Lion King. So it's just like this
Speaker 4: huge moment in her little baby career is now overshadowed
Speaker 4: by this bullshit.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's the only move you can
Speaker 1: do with situations like this, because I do agree with us,
Speaker 1: there goes some lost innocence, like having to explain this
Speaker 1: so early in her life. The only way to try
Speaker 1: to make it a positive when you know you're not
Speaker 1: guilty is to have your kids watch you fight for
Speaker 1: the truth. Absolutely, yeah, Like that's the only way you
Speaker 1: can flip this to something good for your family. Like
Speaker 1: this is like watch us you fight for fight for
Speaker 1: the truth, fight for yourself.
Speaker 9: Because this is what happens when your dad is who
Speaker 9: he is and your mom is who she is. People,
Speaker 9: you know, it's a certain level of greed, and people
Speaker 9: are you know, don't don't like to see you know,
Speaker 9: you being well off and being wealthy, so they try
Speaker 9: to attack that, They attack your character and they try
Speaker 9: to say, oh, you know, yeah he's successful, but he's
Speaker 9: also a piece of shit and he's a rapist, and
Speaker 9: he's this, he's a pedophile. It's just you know, it's
Speaker 9: and it's But again, the problem is, we've seen this
Speaker 9: before and we know that this is part of what
Speaker 9: seems to be an ongoing thing when certain black celebrities
Speaker 9: reach a certain level and a certain plateau on the
Speaker 9: business side. Because you have celebrity black celebrities that you know,
Speaker 9: they successful in their art and whatever they do, but
Speaker 9: they never venture into that business world that heavy and
Speaker 9: try to now become a part of that world.
Speaker 4: So who would you, because I'm listening to you, who
Speaker 4: would and just to be objective, who would you put
Speaker 4: in that category of people who were accused of things
Speaker 4: and they're trying to take them down, but that you
Speaker 4: believe aren't guilty Because a lot of people have been
Speaker 4: accused of things and we hear a lot of that
Speaker 4: they're trying to take a black man down.
Speaker 5: But it be people like Puff and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: but you did that shit.
Speaker 9: So oh yeah, I'm not saying that we saw the
Speaker 9: incent but I'm just saying I'm talking more so like
Speaker 9: when you look at, you know, the Michael Jackson thing,
Speaker 9: because for me, I was, you know, old enough to
Speaker 9: remember that whole thing, and you know, once that became
Speaker 9: a thing, it was like that's all people with. You
Speaker 9: could not turn on the TV, you could not look
Speaker 9: at a magazine cover and not see Michael Jackson either on.
Speaker 6: His way to court or leaving court. Anyway, during that time.
Speaker 1: It was positioned that way because I was younger, and
Speaker 1: even like, for example, my family casual like news watchers.
Speaker 1: If you're a casual person that just works day to
Speaker 1: day and isn't like engulfed in the shit, all you're
Speaker 1: gonna see is Michael Jackson is a pedophile and watch
Speaker 1: him go in and out of court NonStop. Average person
Speaker 1: is gonna be like, that's crazy, Michael Jackson pedophile.
Speaker 3: I think something that's interesting, like when we see reports
Speaker 3: like this come out about Jay and other people I
Speaker 3: don't guilty or not. I think that there's like a
Speaker 3: thing where people that.
Speaker 8: Well him and R.
Speaker 1: Kelly have a song called not Guilty, live.
Speaker 3: A regular life and just like go through you know,
Speaker 3: a normal life. They I think when something like this
Speaker 3: comes in and it takes down a celebrity and knocks
Speaker 3: them down a peg, it makes them make them less
Speaker 3: than human because now it's like, Okay, I don't put
Speaker 3: this person's down a pedestal. I'm better than them because
Speaker 3: of the horrible stuff they did. Now that even though
Speaker 3: they're a billionaire, they're below me because of this, these
Speaker 3: acts that they did throughout their life. Therefore I'm better
Speaker 3: than them. I think it's a lot of that. I
Speaker 3: think it's people that always just want the ability to say, well,
Speaker 3: even though they're that that meaning an a list or
Speaker 3: a celebrity, a piece of shit, of course, a piece
Speaker 3: of shit, and therefore I have made better life decisions,
Speaker 3: although I'm not that I'm better than them because of indeed,
Speaker 3: I would never do that even though you know, I
Speaker 3: live check to check and might not have a job,
Speaker 3: like whatever the case may be. It just kind of
Speaker 3: like gives you a pass to accept and excuse all
Speaker 3: the not even bad stuff you've done in your life,
Speaker 3: but like maybe your shortcomings in your career or your
Speaker 3: personal life, or how you feel about yourself in your situation.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people look at this as
Speaker 3: an escape to be like, well, I didn't fuck at
Speaker 3: thirteen year old. That's why I'm not there at least,
Speaker 3: I like, have you know, a tough job.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Illuminati theory. And while I
Speaker 1: do believe there is some form of that, we have
Speaker 1: put it on so many people because we think there's
Speaker 1: no way they could be that successful without exactly some
Speaker 1: spiritual connection to something or selling their soul or becoming
Speaker 1: gay or sacrificing a baby. Like now, some people work
Speaker 1: really hard and just they're really talented and become successful,
Speaker 1: but there's so many people that sit back and do
Speaker 1: nothing with their lives that can't fathom so that someone
Speaker 1: could be that successful without some type of code.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 9: But that's what Jay spoke to in his response, like,
Speaker 9: I'm not all celebrities are. If we could do that,
Speaker 9: yeah or not? And this is some weird shit and
Speaker 9: I look forward to showing you exactly how different I am.
Speaker 9: All of that speaks to what you just said. It's like,
Speaker 9: you know, some of us can really be this successful
Speaker 9: and really make these great business decisions in these business
Speaker 9: moves and not have done some crazy, wild shit in
Speaker 9: out past to get here.
Speaker 3: But it's hard for people to fathom, Like Ja, someone
Speaker 3: like Jay in a city like New York coming from
Speaker 3: the Marcia projects, It's like, Okay, we know so many
Speaker 3: people that have never left that project, or if they
Speaker 3: leave there they did the debtor in jail route or there,
Speaker 3: nothing comes.
Speaker 2: Of their life.
Speaker 3: He is where he's at because of these chain of
Speaker 3: events he did that put him in those rooms where
Speaker 3: he had to do all these the shady shit, the fucking,
Speaker 3: the killing, drinking baby blood, all that stuff. So it's
Speaker 3: like the thought of a person just getting out of
Speaker 3: that situation and bettering themselves is so beyond the realm
Speaker 3: of possibility that it's like, Okay, well, he only did
Speaker 3: it because he had to do all this shit, right.
Speaker 1: And I mean you know, I mean members of the
Speaker 1: Illuminati there would be if like that's all it took
Speaker 1: to get rich and famous, Right, I had to do
Speaker 1: more to become a kappa. If I could be rich
Speaker 1: and famous for the rest of myne life, to just
Speaker 1: drink some baby blood, like all the money in the
Speaker 1: fucking world, every dream I ever wanted to achieve, have
Speaker 1: my family set up for the rest of their lives.
Speaker 1: Bring over the Chalice Rory's I'll drink a whole couple
Speaker 1: of that, baby.
Speaker 5: Boy, he's joking, where's Amara Rory's joking?
Speaker 1: We have to draw blood from her? Yeah, bro, she
Speaker 1: has to get blood work done. You'll take you a
Speaker 1: little shot of that, and I'm good.
Speaker 2: What do you think sin Rory's cup? He takes it
Speaker 2: home like a sonana chrome.
Speaker 7: Guice.
Speaker 8: However, I no more jokes.
Speaker 4: I mean just not on children. We don't joke on children.
Speaker 8: I was talking about my own child.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's different, freaking Yeah, he's actually the dead, so
Speaker 9: it's like it's a little different.
Speaker 8: Speaking of I've had her sitting there getting her blood drawn.
Speaker 1: If I could just let me get one of those
Speaker 1: little samples, because they told me her life would be
Speaker 1: set if I take a shot of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, take a quick shot like communion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the body of Christ. I drank.
Speaker 8: I drank Jesus'.
Speaker 3: Bless Exactly while we're recording, they allegedly found the man
Speaker 3: that shot the United Healthy Ya.
Speaker 2: This is real time right now. That's her breaking news thing.
Speaker 9: So United Healthcare CEO Sassin suspect identified as Luigi Mangoni.
Speaker 6: I think I said that right.
Speaker 1: Hold on, stop right now. This feels fake just because
Speaker 1: that guy's face looks like a Luigi's. That checks out
Speaker 1: too much. It says he's a TWI said, we got
Speaker 1: to make up a name for him. That's Luigi for sure.
Speaker 2: Here go.
Speaker 9: He's a twenty six year old former Ivy League student
Speaker 9: with dependent He was taking into cussy this morning at
Speaker 9: a Pennsylvania McDonald's and caught with a manifesto that appeared
Speaker 9: to list grievances with the healthcare industry.
Speaker 6: He has not been charged yet.
Speaker 4: See, I will believe you until you say he caught
Speaker 4: with the manifesto. Everybody not carrying around a manifesto. Y'all
Speaker 4: got to stop writing the same book over and over again.
Speaker 9: Come on, I'm sure I'm pretty sure somebody on social
Speaker 9: media will find this same picture of this guy has
Speaker 9: been another crisis actor or somebody in the whole nother
Speaker 9: event that happened.
Speaker 1: Tell them if they've already been doing that with the
Speaker 1: hostile photo, the Starbucks photo. Yeah, like, I don't know
Speaker 1: so much conflicting stories with this from the news to
Speaker 1: my conspiracy theory reddit threads that I don't even really
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 9: This is this, but you know it's we got to
Speaker 9: keep in mind that a life was lost, right Obviously,
Speaker 9: there's a family grieving the loss of a loved one,
Speaker 9: and then people and.
Speaker 5: The people I mean I mean, but not you, these
Speaker 5: two that don't care.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but there's still somebody. I mean, you don't, but
Speaker 9: this family, kids, there's a family grieving the loss of
Speaker 9: this guy. And not only that, to see now that
Speaker 9: they have you know, they were holding like a look alike,
Speaker 9: a suspect shoot to look alike.
Speaker 6: That was contest.
Speaker 1: We're we're in a weird place society, but that's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not. That's weird.
Speaker 6: What is happening?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: But I don't I don't tie that to we have
Speaker 1: to remember a life was lost to more just like
Speaker 1: weird shit, like how much more stuff are we going
Speaker 1: to do for the internet at this point?
Speaker 8: But that's a separate commo. Damaris.
Speaker 1: No, I don't feel that way. Yeah, everyone has had
Speaker 1: to pay for their father's sins before that never got
Speaker 1: thirty one billion dollars.
Speaker 8: I would like myself sometimes how.
Speaker 1: The universe works, is you get back what you give? Yeah,
Speaker 1: unfortunately it doesn't happen enough. So yeah, life was lost. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go into what that life was doing.
Speaker 2: I would like my flowers.
Speaker 3: Apparently, the gentleman Luigi hated the medical community because of
Speaker 3: how it treated one.
Speaker 2: Of his sick relatives.
Speaker 3: So I said, you just piss off a kid that
Speaker 3: had someone die that didn't have to die. You throw
Speaker 3: a whole family in debt, and then you're gonna get
Speaker 3: shit like this happens.
Speaker 1: This gentleman probably paid every fucking cent to his health
Speaker 1: insurance or his family member did, and was denied. He
Speaker 1: was told if I get this, I will be healthy.
Speaker 1: You guys are profiting all this, all right, cools whatever,
Speaker 1: as long as I'm healthy and gets denied for that
Speaker 1: and people are surprised that someone took action into their
Speaker 1: own hands. You want us to believe in this justice system,
Speaker 1: believe in your healthcare system, but look at us crazy
Speaker 1: if we want to kill the person that lied to us, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's how I feel with this entire thing. So
Speaker 1: I don't really have a rest in peace.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, I'm not rest in peace.
Speaker 9: But you know, I also don't want to sit sit
Speaker 9: around and make fun of, you know, somebody being killed
Speaker 9: as well, Like that's just this is not what I'm
Speaker 9: here for.
Speaker 6: But I do understand what you're saying.
Speaker 9: I listen, you know this this guy obviously had a
Speaker 9: family relative that went through something with medical field. Probably
Speaker 9: couldn't get healthcare for surgery or you know, whatever was
Speaker 9: going on, and obviously felt like this was the way
Speaker 9: to retaliate by killing the CEO of the insurance company.
Speaker 9: So you know, I get every reaction as a reaction,
Speaker 9: but again, having to look alike contest for the shoot
Speaker 9: and all, that's uh, you know, that's when it just
Speaker 9: becomes beyond weird for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's get out of all these very very
Speaker 1: serious topics and get into some absolutely ridiculous topics blasphom topics.
Speaker 1: Forbes put out a list that doesn't have to do
Speaker 1: with money.
Speaker 8: Oh this season, it's the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Man, you know what's coming.
Speaker 6: Take them the lists.
Speaker 1: Every year we give. We give these publications what they
Speaker 1: fucking want. They poke us, and they poke us, and
Speaker 1: we always react.
Speaker 8: I didn't, so we are.
Speaker 6: I don't want to talk about this.
Speaker 1: You did well only because it's Forbes. Okay, they put
Speaker 1: out the top fifty.
Speaker 6: That's why I didn't want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Fifty top rappers of all time rappers. Now, I was
Speaker 1: thinking maybe they were trying to get some credibility, because
Speaker 1: it's some culture vulture shit to always put lists of
Speaker 1: like what rappers are doing with money. They're trying to
Speaker 1: prove that they're really students of the game, that they
Speaker 1: they they're really part of the culture. Like you can
Speaker 1: talk about the money shit, but because we care about
Speaker 1: like the roots of this entire thing.
Speaker 8: So that's why M I.
Speaker 1: A Is on our top fifty Rappers of all time
Speaker 1: and black thought isn't right naturally, it's the Forbes. Where
Speaker 1: would you rank Bad Money in like your top rappers?
Speaker 6: I don't even know Bad Money was a rapper?
Speaker 1: But okay, I mean none of us in here, well
Speaker 1: your quarto Rican. But is Bad Bunny considered a rapper?
Speaker 6: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, I don't know what he is categorically not rap.
Speaker 4: I take that Ryan he'd be rapping, okay, because I
Speaker 4: listened to him this morning and it was it was
Speaker 4: a verse with like some bars on it.
Speaker 6: No, he has, Yes, he has songs.
Speaker 2: He raps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the event that he is considered a rapper,
Speaker 1: I may be shooting for some bail here of the
Speaker 1: crossover and the ship that he's changed over the last
Speaker 1: few years. Yeah, he could be considered in the top
Speaker 1: fifty if people consider him rapper. He did it something
Speaker 1: for a whole genre. It's a big I don't consider
Speaker 1: him a rapper, but you know, I'm just white.
Speaker 9: So if you consider him a rapper, he's on this list.
Speaker 9: If he's saying, okay, he's a rapper, you have him
Speaker 9: above push your tee, no and loof.
Speaker 5: Just about daddy Yankee like, well, he ain't getting his shine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sean Paul crap, John Paul's a rapper and Jamaicans
Speaker 1: And that's bad that we're just comparing. It's not even
Speaker 1: the same genre. But yeah, it's Forbes. I don't know
Speaker 1: what are we doing with this season.
Speaker 9: I don't bro I don't want to ever talk about
Speaker 9: nobody's list. I'm gonna just say that right now to y'all.
Speaker 6: I don't care release your own no for what this
Speaker 6: is stupid.
Speaker 1: I don't a list well off off. Mike Samaries brought
Speaker 1: up a point without quickly looking at it. Were they
Speaker 1: doing the top fifty richest rappers? And then I saw no,
Speaker 1: it says it that that Mia was also above Cardi B.
Speaker 1: And I'm not counting anyone's pockets. I'm just going to
Speaker 1: go out on a limb and say that maybe she
Speaker 1: doesn't have more money.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so they sounded like an I hater.
Speaker 1: I like I, but.
Speaker 8: Is she a rapper?
Speaker 4: Forbes said, between critical acclaim, cultural influence, album sales, innovation
Speaker 4: in the genre, and.
Speaker 6: More innovation in the genres.
Speaker 1: Sorry, putting in your description and more is fucking hilarious.
Speaker 2: Explain it's your rules. You have to tell us the rules.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a big bunch of bullshit, though, just
Speaker 6: get people.
Speaker 1: Which is crazy because we critique actual hip hop platforms
Speaker 1: of like doing this because we don't really know who's
Speaker 1: behind it and who's doing it with their taste. Is
Speaker 1: now we have Forbes doing it and then the New
Speaker 1: York Times just put something out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, top Songs, Top fifty or something, Songs of twenty
Speaker 4: twenty four.
Speaker 8: Is this the woman?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: This is? He wrote it?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sure she's a great journalist. She works for
Speaker 1: Forbes or writes for Forbes. I'm not trying to take
Speaker 1: away anything from her career, but I feel like with
Speaker 1: this list in Instagram.
Speaker 6: Wrote the Forbes list.
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that she wrote the list. It doesn't
Speaker 4: mean that she did the criteria for the list. She
Speaker 4: wrote the article, but she got that criteria and landed
Speaker 4: on MI a yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 6: Got to blame you, gotta blame her for it. What's
Speaker 6: her name? Andrea? What Andrea Bossi?
Speaker 5: Fashion, beauty in art and culture.
Speaker 9: Okay, so check out the culture is where she can
Speaker 9: name the top fifty rappers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, got it.
Speaker 4: I feel like the the New York Times Best Songs
Speaker 4: of the twenty twenty four list is a little.
Speaker 5: Bit more accurate.
Speaker 6: Another list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, list season than listed listed.
Speaker 8: We have more.
Speaker 1: This is just the early shit. We have the ones
Speaker 1: that are really going to piss us off coming up.
Speaker 4: Oh, beat out for sure. Beat Ou passes me off
Speaker 4: every fucking year.
Speaker 1: But I've never mad a song one sometimes tends to
Speaker 1: be easier than like a fifty greatest rapper of all time?
Speaker 1: Number one, we don't need to say makes sense, checks out.
Speaker 1: Number two Beyonce, Texas hold them. I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 5: I think they're going off influence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like sixteen Candles to Me was the better
Speaker 1: song out of that two pac.
Speaker 5: It's not sixteen candles, sixteen carriages.
Speaker 1: This sixteen candles a movie or something. Sixteen carriages. I'm sorry.
Speaker 9: Your dyslexia is like, just jump out your dyslexia. Just
Speaker 9: jumps out and choke chokes your ass. It's not even dyslexi.
Speaker 9: It's just another form that's like not diagnosed.
Speaker 1: Okay, that like movie artist dys because nothing was dyslextic.
Speaker 8: There's say sixty one carriages, right.
Speaker 2: Sixty Can I get what this contributor is doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: They're not picking like the the like Obviously, if you
Speaker 3: see the Bringy Carpenter, you'd think would be Espresso, but
Speaker 3: this contributed please Please Please, which is a great song,
Speaker 3: but like we can be honest, it's Espresso if you're
Speaker 3: gonna listen, if you're gonna talk about her year. And
Speaker 3: then for Shaboozie the number four songs, they picked good News,
Speaker 3: not Tipsy. Really they're gonna so they're doing this whole
Speaker 3: like they're doing if Rory were to write one of these.
Speaker 1: Is there in Pitchfork.
Speaker 3: S Yeah, the bar song which Diamond but have you
Speaker 3: heard good News?
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, that's the one that's the real one.
Speaker 4: But see, I feel that way too about the Tyler
Speaker 4: song that they have on there. They have this Safer
Speaker 4: Tyler's Safer instead of the water song, and I agree,
Speaker 4: I fucking love Safer. I think there's not at a
Speaker 4: full like real. No about Truth or Dare. I me
Speaker 4: thinking that's true, for Dare is better than water. I
Speaker 4: might walk that back. I don't know, but Truth or
Speaker 4: Dare is a really.
Speaker 1: Good I got commissioned to do a list of the
Speaker 1: best songs of twenty twenty four. As much as I
Speaker 1: am the annoying hipster contrarian, I would do what they asked,
Speaker 1: these are the top songs of twenty twenty.
Speaker 4: But she did not my time. She didn't say top.
Speaker 4: She said best, which there is a dairy thought of
Speaker 4: because jay Z's top song, which would be Empire state.
Speaker 5: Of Mind, is not by far that song by far
Speaker 5: by far as.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, best song. I would still take that
Speaker 1: as the best songs, not my favorite songs. If I
Speaker 1: were to write a list like this, I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: that Shabboozi record, like that's ridiculous.
Speaker 5: But if it's a.
Speaker 8: If it's a, it's not my best.
Speaker 4: No, but that's not It's not saying favorite, it just
Speaker 4: says best. There are some songs that are clearly better
Speaker 4: than another song. This song just happened to blow up.
Speaker 1: I would challenge you are both members of the beehive. Okay,
Speaker 1: sixteen Carriages or Texas Hold Them? What is the best song?
Speaker 5: Sixteen Carriages?
Speaker 1: Well, there goes their credibility.
Speaker 8: We can't think you and I killed.
Speaker 4: It, you know, But I can understand why they would
Speaker 4: say Texas Hold Them is the best song. I can
Speaker 4: understand why they would say that. But my preference would
Speaker 4: be sixteen here.
Speaker 1: Well, he put his name. I respect that, Like even.
Speaker 2: In Oh, that was a different contributor.
Speaker 3: Oh, never mind, this is the Yeah, it's three different
Speaker 3: people wrote it.
Speaker 8: But I'm not mad at that.
Speaker 1: Like to commission people for your platform, like three people
Speaker 1: make your best list so it could be compared, because
Speaker 1: that is different taste, levels, different experiences. I think that
Speaker 1: type of shit is cool rather than the straight up list.
Speaker 1: I don't think we'll ever get the listing right in media.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the point.
Speaker 2: Well it's not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's also not fair because music is so subjective,
Speaker 3: like you're you're being tasked with the job of considering
Speaker 3: everyone's taste in preference when that's not you can't serve everybody.
Speaker 2: That's not how that works.
Speaker 1: Some things I think are just universal, though, when it
Speaker 1: comes to best top favorite, like to me, that makes
Speaker 1: the pop star the pop song. Everyone agrees this is great.
Speaker 1: No one can really argue this being on a list.
Speaker 4: Oh, they all had different So the three people that
Speaker 4: wrote it, they all have completely different lists. And this
Speaker 4: person's whoever's in charge of the hip hop or the pop,
Speaker 4: like the whoever's in charge of us. They did a
Speaker 4: completely different list. They said their number one song was
Speaker 4: a tie between Cash Coo Bangs. It was crazy Fisher,
Speaker 4: I'm I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Grippy Yeah, wait, his number one has fifteen number one
Speaker 1: seven different song. He did a tire and then went
Speaker 1: down to z you can't do the alphabet for your
Speaker 1: number one, like, just just make a list.
Speaker 3: Number two was dis record focused. It was not like
Speaker 3: us Faily matters.
Speaker 1: Putting them in order.
Speaker 2: Heart part I think is.
Speaker 1: He just ranking the moments and the genre because that
Speaker 1: first one read them off again, that's more of like
Speaker 1: Sexy Drill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, that was cool. That's cool.
Speaker 5: Grippy may number one.
Speaker 1: Somebody there was only so many Sexy Drill records and
Speaker 1: it's last on that list.
Speaker 5: Fuck you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so his argument is there's one sound.
Speaker 6: When is the last time you heard that song?
Speaker 2: This morning you played it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, oh yeah, I'm talking about like out somewhere and
Speaker 9: heard it. I haven't heard that song, and I don't
Speaker 9: know how.
Speaker 5: Not fair You go out places and you don't hear
Speaker 5: plenty of songs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but you don't hear grippy like I don't even
Speaker 9: see girls posting that like and making videos like jumping.
Speaker 5: Into their like a fucking laughing a laughing stock joke.
Speaker 2: So fuck you, guys.
Speaker 6: Just was funny.
Speaker 3: At number five, the women here we go. Yeah, pushingly
Speaker 3: old fashioned rapper. Glorilla raps with the strength and sturdiness.
Speaker 3: I don't know I rapper.
Speaker 1: She got bars like a uh older rapper. I think
Speaker 1: she's a great Is that what he's trying to say?
Speaker 9: He says she structures her rhyms as efficiently as a
Speaker 9: factory production line.
Speaker 8: I was about to say, this sounds like a Jullian.
Speaker 6: Cast vins for sure.
Speaker 2: This is definitely that's a great word. Every exhalation is
Speaker 2: a hook.
Speaker 1: I was about to try to read it, and then
Speaker 1: they didn't want to play myself because I would have exultations.
Speaker 4: All right, Every hook is an incitement to revelry.
Speaker 1: So what is this category? At all a colorilla category.
Speaker 2: It is because I'm honest.
Speaker 1: Not putting the Tyler joint with glorilla is crazy to me.
Speaker 2: Mmmm, well this just women.
Speaker 6: Well Tyler joint the sticky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Gloriala is not a sticky Yeah, have a different version,
Speaker 1: but it's not the Glorilla sound.
Speaker 5: That's the Tyler sound with glow on it.
Speaker 9: Okay, you're about to sea, say Tyle, I'm thinking not
Speaker 9: the creative Tyler hard E r Okay.
Speaker 8: Number six only category is Tommy Richmond.
Speaker 9: Hard modern from a trained opera singer with a wild
Speaker 9: range and a cleverly rhythmic approach to singing.
Speaker 6: It's cool. How was the year finding.
Speaker 5: Get the funk out?
Speaker 1: I was with this guy so far I thought this
Speaker 1: was a cool approach. Now I think he's on the
Speaker 1: take for the Grammys? Is that why I was considered
Speaker 1: hip hop? Because it's hard? Next? Snapping, you know that
Speaker 1: he's a trained opera singer.
Speaker 5: How do you snap your neck?
Speaker 2: Ain't the same?
Speaker 8: You know, like us whites are really feeling a song
Speaker 8: which is off?
Speaker 1: Oh m hmm, yeah, Well the one you've seen me
Speaker 1: with Jim Jones and the studio you know?
Speaker 5: Now I saw you do that ship everywhere.
Speaker 1: You may enjoy music in my own rhythmic.
Speaker 4: Now we were here, We were here and you was
Speaker 4: playing me something off of phone, snapping your neck.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the enjoy music.
Speaker 2: The phone, hold this, hold it to you.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's part of part of a process.
Speaker 6: What's the process?
Speaker 8: Okay, you want to go down that road.
Speaker 2: Walk me through the phone test.
Speaker 1: When mixing songs and albums. At this point in our lives,
Speaker 1: you can look at the percentage of how people consume music.
Speaker 1: It's definitely not at the highest point, but some people
Speaker 1: really consume music just by playing it off their phone.
Speaker 1: So that is something you have to take into account
Speaker 1: when you're mixing, playing it like the speaker off the
Speaker 1: iPhone speaker.
Speaker 6: Yes, people listen to this. You know.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of younger people that when they
Speaker 1: get ready or you know, don't live in a house
Speaker 1: or you can't have a loud speaker or anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they listen to their phone.
Speaker 5: I have allowed sea.
Speaker 8: I do it on my MacBook.
Speaker 1: I mean, of course, you know, we start with AirPods, speaking,
Speaker 1: et cetera. But there's still a iPhone test and MacBook
Speaker 1: speaker test.
Speaker 6: When it comes to mixing, and then you move it
Speaker 6: to the car test.
Speaker 1: No, car test is way before that.
Speaker 6: Before the phone. Okay, I thought you would gradually like.
Speaker 2: Car test is more akin to like the studio speakers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's why I thought you would start with
Speaker 9: the phone, with the phone on speaker first, and then
Speaker 9: be like, I don't know, I don't know something's missing.
Speaker 9: And then you go to the car. You turn it
Speaker 9: on in the car, and you still be like, I
Speaker 9: don't know, it's missing something.
Speaker 1: And it's funny, what's funny with this? With his next
Speaker 1: and get more. I did a lot of the car
Speaker 1: tests in my mother's Mazda because like you.
Speaker 6: Oh, you went to that essence. No, most people went
Speaker 6: back to the roots.
Speaker 1: It's not even that. No, I'm not trying to sound
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 9: That car most people know he kept it for these
Speaker 9: moments like just I.
Speaker 1: Haven't parked somewhere just for you know something. People don't
Speaker 1: have fucking like Bow stereo systems in the show. So
Speaker 1: it's you have to go to the consumer that the
Speaker 1: most most people have car like regular fucking Ford Focus
Speaker 1: that's the sound, right, and a Ford Focus. No, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna get in a zods Porsche. Of course it
Speaker 1: sounds incredible. Throw he posts his Porsche.
Speaker 9: I think he was just trying to lean it towards like,
Speaker 9: you know, go to the go to, like the go to,
Speaker 9: like a beat up Ford. And if it sounds good
Speaker 9: and it's gonna sound great in that plush leather of
Speaker 9: a Porsche when that engine is reving going down.
Speaker 4: P h, you know you gotta get a two thousand
Speaker 4: and eight Accura with the red seats.
Speaker 1: Everything sounds good in the studio, you have to go
Speaker 1: see what that rental car, what it sounds like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how mixing goes.
Speaker 10: So.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's why I bang my head when I'm playing
Speaker 1: it off the phone because my ear is in tune
Speaker 1: with this thing.
Speaker 6: Yeah. And then he says, are those Child's drums like
Speaker 6: those sound like you? Well?
Speaker 1: Yes, because I bounced them and child to play the drums.
Speaker 4: First of all, shout out to child Child. It has
Speaker 4: become my favorite songwriter. Oh producer, please bring out. It's
Speaker 4: gotten to a point where when I'm listening to a
Speaker 4: song now that I'll go and check who wrote it
Speaker 4: in there there we go, there, Yanni go, I don't
Speaker 4: like you.
Speaker 1: Check now when Demera said this in the studio the
Speaker 1: other day. I felt like I needed my flowers from
Speaker 1: Mare after all those jokes when I was bringing up Yo,
Speaker 1: they stole this from Yanni, These Yannie drums. Demeris now
Speaker 1: every albums he goes to goes hmmm, I love this
Speaker 1: one scrolls down. Huh seems like some Yanni drums.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got.
Speaker 5: Well, mainly his writing drum.
Speaker 6: Now the Mares to listen to every song is like,
Speaker 6: I don't know those drums sound so for me.
Speaker 1: It's probably a bad joke for the theme of this episode.
Speaker 1: But maybe like Child's like the crew could be the children,
Speaker 1: that could be like the stand where you were trying
Speaker 1: to go where his children.
Speaker 6: Was just bad time.
Speaker 4: I don't know if Yanni would agree with that, but
Speaker 4: I believed you when you said that.
Speaker 5: Maul laughed you out off the studio.
Speaker 4: But I didn't automatically go no, YACHTI didn't steal those
Speaker 4: from Child like.
Speaker 1: I don't think Yati himself. I think there was people
Speaker 1: around him that were listening and probabimity that I heard influence.
Speaker 9: I heard these drums from Child, we gotta take them.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of producers like that. Are really
Speaker 1: really like digging through the crates version of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four twenty twenty five have crazy rabbit hole streaming ship
Speaker 1: and run into producers or artists that may not be
Speaker 1: as popular and then go work. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they steal anything per se, but they come in with
Speaker 1: a new sound that someone like Yati that would never
Speaker 1: even inspire, I think, and then you get a result
Speaker 1: and people that are actually around that type of sound
Speaker 1: could go that's an exact Bite's all right?
Speaker 6: So I'm still on the side that nobody is stealing
Speaker 6: from child.
Speaker 1: I completely disagree.
Speaker 6: Nah with Yan though really great question, great great producer
Speaker 6: with them, man.
Speaker 1: But it's cool. You can give us our flowers like
Speaker 1: later off my hid.
Speaker 9: I'll go to the floors and see what they got
Speaker 9: in the fridge and I'll get you something man, and
Speaker 9: bring them back to you.
Speaker 6: Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send you the new album back. I'll send
Speaker 1: it now so you get around to it like March Damn.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of Yanni drums on there.
Speaker 6: How done are you with the album?
Speaker 2: Though?
Speaker 6: I'm close?
Speaker 9: Okay, alright, so they send it to me, you know,
Speaker 9: I hate that hearing when it's like, oh, like sixty percent. No, no, no,
Speaker 9: no no, because they know how the time of the
Speaker 9: album comes a whole different album, and it's like, all right,
Speaker 9: this ain't even what I heard.
Speaker 4: You close to the end of the out When the
Speaker 4: fuck were you gonna tell.
Speaker 1: Us that I'm still carrying baggage from the first one.
Speaker 6: Yeah, see.
Speaker 8: The amount of me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I left his vinyls over there.
Speaker 5: Oh shut up.
Speaker 2: Oht's see, we're not doing that again.
Speaker 1: You know what, I take it back, It wasn't baggage
Speaker 1: from the first one. When I started the second album
Speaker 1: October of last year, I sent de Mare so much
Speaker 1: stuff that didn't even make the project, like just exercise work,
Speaker 1: just experimenting some of my poetry and shit red well
Speaker 1: left on red nothing whatsoever. I'm gonna send you the
Speaker 1: final shit of course.
Speaker 5: No no no, no, no, no no no no no no no
Speaker 5: no repeat what.
Speaker 4: You said again. I said to Mare so much shit
Speaker 4: that what didn't make the album?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 4: If you know what the fuck I went through with
Speaker 4: the first album. You had an entire album done. I
Speaker 4: fell in love with it. I knew the lyrics, none
Speaker 4: of the songs around the new fucking album. You weren't
Speaker 4: gonna put me through that again, so I wanted you
Speaker 4: to wait until you started working on That's how.
Speaker 8: The process works.
Speaker 1: The people around you that you respect their ear and
Speaker 1: are closer to the situation, you play everything for them
Speaker 1: to get guidance to maybe make it a song that
Speaker 1: could make that album.
Speaker 4: And you're full of bullshit because I gave you. I
Speaker 4: gave you opinions. I loved the Nick Grant record, and
Speaker 4: I told you that that other one with the doodle
Speaker 4: butter shit had to go.
Speaker 1: Doodle butter, that that wasn't going to make that. But
Speaker 1: I sent you so much other shoo butter was my
Speaker 1: was my weekend.
Speaker 2: Shout out to it.
Speaker 8: No, I sent you so much.
Speaker 1: Stuff over this year that you just left on red, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, does hurt a little bit.
Speaker 2: Mm, well, maybe I didn't unpacked that.
Speaker 9: All right, Well, send me, send me the album so
Speaker 9: I can listen to it and I can like give
Speaker 9: it the phone top.
Speaker 1: Oh see, and you know what, Oh, let's let's have
Speaker 1: a quick before we get the voicemails, quick therapy session.
Speaker 1: Oh god, not Homie Court per se, because it's not
Speaker 1: Homie Court. We've already established that she's guilty.
Speaker 6: HM.
Speaker 1: I sent you the potential intro to the project and
Speaker 1: asked if you were still cool with a certain rapper,
Speaker 1: sent you the full record, which is crazy, by the way,
Speaker 1: and asked for somebody that you knew if they could
Speaker 1: get on a second verse of this.
Speaker 9: He didn't respond no, no, no no, but watch this is
Speaker 9: no no as far as getting that person on.
Speaker 1: And then I think I said, let me know what
Speaker 1: you think of it, because I respect your ear.
Speaker 6: H did you come home? I'm scrolling.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 9: We texted a lot, so No, you didn't say let
Speaker 9: me know what you think of it. See, you said
Speaker 9: you wanted to get him on this record. You have
Speaker 9: a budget, so and so went crazy. It's a dis
Speaker 9: but nobody will pick up on that. Okay, you didn't
Speaker 9: say tell me what you think. Okay, but I'm still like,
Speaker 9: if I'm sending you a song like I didn't pull out, Okay,
Speaker 9: that's not the fan test. I have egg on my face.
Speaker 9: But how I'm gonna flip this in homie court? Is
Speaker 9: I thought that went without saying no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 9: you can't can't you I can't go what I was
Speaker 9: saying you can't know that that goes what I'll say.
Speaker 8: No no, no no no witness.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you didn't say anything, no no, I'm going to
Speaker 9: clear here, buddy. Fuck that, Hey, Julie.
Speaker 8: Didn't, all right, why it hurts them?
Speaker 1: You didn't think of damn all the music that he
Speaker 1: put out on the last one, like if he sent
Speaker 1: me a link of I gotta listen to it.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but that was was one record like send me
Speaker 9: to send me the ship. I want the ship that
Speaker 9: you listening to.
Speaker 5: And that's another thing.
Speaker 4: Before he would give us the fucking this SoundCloud link
Speaker 4: I would be able to go through.
Speaker 8: But this song was I have a ful Okay, you
Speaker 8: haven't shared.
Speaker 4: That you keep sending me randomly. I need to hear
Speaker 4: it in like totality. I need to get hear the
Speaker 4: vibe of the fucking album.
Speaker 3: One song because there's an artist on who's in like
Speaker 3: my personal top five that he did a cut with
Speaker 3: in La and I'm.
Speaker 2: Gonna I'm gonna be a part.
Speaker 1: Make people think I have coal on this album.
Speaker 2: I have that.
Speaker 3: People think they don't know my taste at all, but
Speaker 3: I have listened to every single version of this song
Speaker 3: Roy has sent me but I will say if he
Speaker 3: did do that like twenty times over for every record,
Speaker 3: kind of like for the first album, I'd be like,
Speaker 3: all right, just send it to me, win to just yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I sent, but you heard like send me like no.
Speaker 2: It was like three or four, but like I'm fine.
Speaker 2: I love.
Speaker 1: I was like, on here we had the demo that
Speaker 1: we did in l A and then we just finished.
Speaker 2: You just sent me the one on was it Saturday?
Speaker 4: Send me the SoundCloud leak with the songs that like
Speaker 4: you you're the songs you really really want to already have.
Speaker 4: I already have it, Okay, so send you the link.
Speaker 5: That's what I said. Send me the link so that
Speaker 5: I can actually.
Speaker 6: Trying to bootleg your ship.
Speaker 8: Man, I couldn't see that I could have.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I sent demeris here we go recently,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite fucking records on this project. No
Speaker 1: response recently, like we're in the last three days. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the name.
Speaker 5: It was not. He was just as it was not
Speaker 5: first of.
Speaker 8: All, And I said, no response.
Speaker 4: You first, you sent it when we were in office.
Speaker 4: You knew I was grieving. That's number one.
Speaker 1: And if I remember correctly, me and this gentleman were
Speaker 1: talking about on the office of how excited we were
Speaker 1: about the record.
Speaker 5: That was the one he was had, banging his head
Speaker 5: to the ear things.
Speaker 1: And sending me some I was like, yeah, I got you.
Speaker 4: Now to be fair, No, to be fair response, no listening.
Speaker 4: I thought that that song. First of all, I had
Speaker 4: a funeral the next day, so I planned on listening
Speaker 4: to right. Well, I can't debate that. Second of all,
Speaker 4: repass song. I did not know that that was for
Speaker 4: your project. I thought that was just nong Sends working
Speaker 4: on for his project.
Speaker 1: No, I sent you. There was three records and one
Speaker 1: was specifically for mine, which I sent to you. I
Speaker 1: can see it like the links on my message don't lie.
Speaker 1: As much as I'm losing in this court case with technicalities,
Speaker 1: I should have never wanted to go with it. But dog,
Speaker 1: look at this. That is from my project. It says
Speaker 1: my name. The other artist stuff just said his name.
Speaker 6: It literally.
Speaker 4: Because no, no, no, no, let me tell you how.
Speaker 2: He's all right.
Speaker 8: I'm getting some wins in this court because.
Speaker 4: The artist sat up there when we were sitting here.
Speaker 4: He says, I make personalise linked for I make personalized
Speaker 4: links for every body, So I know exactly who's listening
Speaker 4: to the song I recorded and how many times because
Speaker 4: it has a personalized link. So the link says Rory,
Speaker 4: because I assumed that those songs that he sent to
Speaker 4: you were was your personal playlist. I didn't know that
Speaker 4: you were involved in those songs at all. I would
Speaker 4: have listened to you know, I loved that artist. We
Speaker 4: had a conversation about it. So don't do that she's
Speaker 4: badgering the jury or whatever they say. These are two
Speaker 4: completely different civil cases. There was a link, yes, for
Speaker 4: this particular artist songs that was labeled under my name.
Speaker 1: That was a playlist. What I just showed you was
Speaker 1: an MP three that Julian just saw as well, Rory
Speaker 1: dash song title that was not part of that link
Speaker 1: that went to the other shit.
Speaker 5: And when did you send that ear on her?
Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's gonna get worse for you if
Speaker 1: you see how far back. Maybe it was longer than that.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's going to help you. Let
Speaker 1: me scroll through our text messages.
Speaker 6: Well, I got to listen to this record again that
Speaker 6: you sent me.
Speaker 5: Julian's have a song.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh my god, it go. Let it
Speaker 1: go because you're strolling up Friday, November twenty second, Remember
Speaker 1: went to the studio in Atlanta, Yes he was. I
Speaker 1: sent Dameris all the lyrics and the bounce.
Speaker 4: And I liked it. And you know, I really should
Speaker 4: have been a rapper. I said, it's never too late.
Speaker 4: I liked it, and I said it's never.
Speaker 8: I sent you the song to listen. That is not
Speaker 8: a reply.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: This is this is crazy.
Speaker 8: And people wonder why I don't send them music.
Speaker 9: It's heartbreaking your points to text me to say, yo,
Speaker 9: this is crazy.
Speaker 6: No response.
Speaker 4: I responded to him, and I literally but this is
Speaker 4: another thing. Rory will send you music and I've I've
Speaker 4: talked about this and joked about this before I go
Speaker 4: to bed at ten pm so that I can be
Speaker 4: at the gym at four am. Rory will send me
Speaker 4: music at two am and expect me to respond.
Speaker 1: I'm no, oh, no, no, no no. I don't expect a
Speaker 1: reply at that point. I just expect a replies at
Speaker 1: some point, just something, because that's what textas for.
Speaker 8: And you made that even worse.
Speaker 1: All are you waking up to go to the gym?
Speaker 6: Yo music press player?
Speaker 1: You don't know what would you know, because the record
Speaker 1: with the artist that was just in this studio is
Speaker 1: one thousand percent of gym record.
Speaker 5: Again, I have already.
Speaker 6: Wondered on the drums.
Speaker 9: You know, his drums is M drums.
Speaker 8: You know what, I didn't want to go this far.
Speaker 8: I think the gym stole child.
Speaker 6: Planet Fitness. Are they gonna steal Child's drums?
Speaker 2: You know that?
Speaker 5: Yo?
Speaker 1: Look at the ring, Starbucks and the gym.
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I'll take this. We can settle
Speaker 4: out of court as a friend. In court, we're selling
Speaker 4: it here as a friend. I could be better at
Speaker 4: this right. But what I will say is with your
Speaker 4: last album, you did organize your songs a little bit
Speaker 4: better so that I was able to listen to them
Speaker 4: in totality and get the feeling of the project.
Speaker 5: You want me to judge once.
Speaker 6: Quiet in the court?
Speaker 2: Please? Sorry? That was the.
Speaker 4: Gallery take y'all say, woman, never take accountability. I'm the
Speaker 4: only motherfucking this room taking accountability. I am hoologized accountable
Speaker 4: for I could have been.
Speaker 1: You said, I'm sorry, but it's your fault because you
Speaker 1: didn't organize it. You know, it takes a while to
Speaker 1: even get to that point of putting a sequence I
Speaker 1: finally just got there in between that time, we send
Speaker 1: them to friends to see if it could even make
Speaker 1: the list.
Speaker 4: The sequence I apologize now on I will definitely do better.
Speaker 4: I apparently I will not be on the credits of
Speaker 4: this album like I was the last one.
Speaker 6: But I do apologize.
Speaker 4: I do apologize, and I will be better. I've been
Speaker 4: a little preoccupied.
Speaker 6: That's that's big of you to marriage. I respect that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that joining the record that I sent you.
Speaker 2: Yep, what about it?
Speaker 1: You can be objective and I'm biased.
Speaker 2: You know how I feel about him, So I love it.
Speaker 6: Yo, kay.
Speaker 1: And it's not him the R and B artist's it's him.
Speaker 6: What's up with him? We always ask about him, like
Speaker 6: every six months.
Speaker 1: Love him, man, I just don't know where he's at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe turning the day.
Speaker 6: Oh no, he didn't. We know who they are. We
Speaker 6: know who they are.
Speaker 1: Dante's drums are all over my first project and this one.
Speaker 5: You know, it just worked on this one too. Dante
Speaker 5: worked on this one.
Speaker 8: Dante worked on the record.
Speaker 2: On the record that I yeah, Yeah, that's cool, that's great.
Speaker 1: You can tell the Dante drums when they come in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a smash.
Speaker 6: Though Dante Child's drums gym. Yeah, you got to listen
Speaker 6: to it gym record.
Speaker 1: So that's my fault. Surrounded by extremely talented I love.
Speaker 4: It's new album coming within the next year.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm close. Like there'll be music at the
Speaker 1: end of January fire, so.
Speaker 4: We're em for album release end of August.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying anything like that. I don't know.
Speaker 6: You should put your I could scrap.
Speaker 8: I could scrap the project in Janie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know how you do.
Speaker 6: That's funny. You should put your album day to super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I would be really stupid. Why because I don't have
Speaker 1: a commercial to say, listen to my music during the
Speaker 1: super Bowl.
Speaker 6: We'll make one. We shoot, put it on Socials and
Speaker 6: put it on X.
Speaker 4: Release it soon as can. You have another release party.
Speaker 4: I love your release parties. I don't I know you
Speaker 4: hate them. I have a ball every time.
Speaker 6: What do you mean that was fun? I wait?
Speaker 2: The LA one or the LA one?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: That was yeah, don't do that again.
Speaker 1: I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, do it again. It was great for
Speaker 2: me to do it again. I had a great time.
Speaker 3: I was talking about the fan listening thing that we
Speaker 3: did in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm definitely gonna do stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was fun.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you should preview a song if it's if you
Speaker 9: have one ready at the show Saturday.
Speaker 2: Mmm. Yeah, don't play my song.
Speaker 1: It's not your song. My song literally nothing.
Speaker 4: You would name it Julian's song on the album Julian's Lullaby.
Speaker 1: Let me give him some credit. We did talk about
Speaker 1: Julian during the session about smoking a cigarette. Then I
Speaker 1: found out Julian smoked cigarettes and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: you smoked cig Oh oh, I knew that.
Speaker 2: Wait, Wendy, what do you mean We talked.
Speaker 1: About, uh, you had said smoke a cig with him.
Speaker 2: And like twenty seventeen, sixteen.
Speaker 8: And he took that ass.
Speaker 1: You know you want to go smoke a sick I
Speaker 1: was like, no, no, no, I don't want to do that,
Speaker 1: Like we could just finish the record.
Speaker 2: Well, there are certain people I'll break.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll occasionally smoke a drunk cigarette every once
Speaker 3: in a while, but like a cigarette with if I'm
Speaker 3: not drinking, I'm not smoking a cigarett. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: leave the studio and rip a dart. It's fucking weird.
Speaker 3: Rip but rip a.
Speaker 1: Dark dark, rip a dart.
Speaker 7: You know, rip a dart is fucking crazy, rip bust down,
Speaker 7: I say, rip a fart, he said, rip a dart.
Speaker 6: What.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't use other words for cigarette so bad?
Speaker 6: What is it?
Speaker 8: Dark?
Speaker 6: Rip a dart? Thing?
Speaker 2: It's like street term person, it's street.
Speaker 6: That's fucking n yu term fucking loose?
Speaker 1: Is that a single cigarette? Because I know that as Lucy.
Speaker 2: It's just a thing.
Speaker 6: First cigarette that is fucking hilarious. It's a thing. I'm
Speaker 6: not gonna leave the studio and just rip a dart.
Speaker 1: But what one of my best friends in high school,
Speaker 1: who was addicted addict, like every fucking five seconds had
Speaker 1: to smoke a cigarette, would always announce you, I'm about
Speaker 1: to go bang a Lucy. If people like didn't know
Speaker 1: the term was like putting out a single was about
Speaker 1: to go fuck like a prostitute. You know what a
Speaker 1: cigarette in London? Yes we know, I said, That's why
Speaker 1: I'm glad he didn't say the other.
Speaker 6: One here too, great word, great word, yeah.
Speaker 3: But like, yeah, I smoking with him.
Speaker 2: That was forever a.
Speaker 3: Guy ripped the dart with him.
Speaker 2: Say that to him, you'll know what the deal is.
Speaker 1: If I play the first thing about New York Show,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go there early for sound checks.
Speaker 8: And you have to make sure it's.
Speaker 1: Mixed the bang because it's not mastered because those acoustics.
Speaker 2: Which one is the first? Do I have that one?
Speaker 2: Or do I just have the yes?
Speaker 1: After that? Back to someone that doesn't reply to me?
Speaker 1: Sent them one of his friends. And then we were
Speaker 1: talking about which record would go first, and I said,
Speaker 1: here's the record that will go first. No reply.
Speaker 8: After we stopped talking about.
Speaker 2: No, I was also shiitting my brains out.
Speaker 1: So hold on, John, I have all the evidence.
Speaker 6: You have so much evidence, gave dates ship, you did
Speaker 6: send it overwhelming evidence.
Speaker 1: This is the final nothing while we wasting.
Speaker 6: The taxpayer's time, let's just close this case.
Speaker 8: How awkward would that be?
Speaker 6: This is a This is like a loss. You get
Speaker 6: to the court.
Speaker 4: Didn't listen to I thought it'd be different until it
Speaker 4: was the same.
Speaker 6: I did listen to it.
Speaker 1: Do you guys think the crowd would like? How awkward
Speaker 1: would that be if I was just like, and here's
Speaker 1: the next single and we just all sit there like.
Speaker 6: They don't know the words. They had to listen to
Speaker 6: it and.
Speaker 8: Then it just like ends.
Speaker 6: No, you just let it play and.
Speaker 4: It's like playing third let it play why like in
Speaker 4: the back play have it as put.
Speaker 9: It in between, like put it in between like one
Speaker 9: of Cardi's songs, and then like it was.
Speaker 2: Like an easter egg Ooh.
Speaker 1: I like that idea at the end of the show,
Speaker 1: like when people are yeah players, Yeah, that's better than
Speaker 1: staring at a bunch of people staring at me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm like trying to nod like they like
Speaker 4: it's some fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So you're saying it's good get out music.
Speaker 1: See, I don't like how you word of that.
Speaker 9: I'm just saying, like, we know a good get out record,
Speaker 9: like you play at the end of the show, like
Speaker 9: I just start closing. I think it would work for
Speaker 9: that shore like Sin City, they used to play Franks
Speaker 9: Franks and not to get the fuck out.
Speaker 1: I believe that's the title.
Speaker 6: Get the fuck out of here.
Speaker 4: See how this thing goes as a good like exit song.
Speaker 4: I've always felt like that it's a good exit song.
Speaker 1: I even got a nod from Page who only loves
Speaker 1: Dirty South.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you only listen to Kendrick and who else he
Speaker 6: listened to?
Speaker 2: This young back?
Speaker 9: He listened to three songs. He is a cycle? How
Speaker 9: you listen only three songs?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 5: Please voice smels Julian.
Speaker 6: Do we have voicemails? Now we do? You've got mail.
Speaker 3: I think it's a good time to remind people that
Speaker 3: every Patreon tier has access to voicemails. It's pinned to
Speaker 3: the top of our profile. Once you're in Patreon five
Speaker 3: ten or twenty dollars, you can submit voicemail.
Speaker 2: If we ask for a follow up, please send a
Speaker 2: follow up.
Speaker 3: And if you call again, if your first call isn't good,
Speaker 3: please do not spend ten seconds explaining that this is
Speaker 3: your second call.
Speaker 2: Just restart the voicemail. All right, there we go.
Speaker 10: What if everybody? This is black from Denver? So I
Speaker 10: have a question. Me and my wife. We've been married
Speaker 10: for roughly fifteen years. We have two kids, three dogs,
Speaker 10: home cars, whatever American dream right. My issue is, we
Speaker 10: have been together for so long, and we're constantly with
Speaker 10: each other, day in and day out, and I'm starting
Speaker 10: to realize that we don't have time apart. We are
Speaker 10: always with each other, always doing things, and we're just
Speaker 10: constantly together.
Speaker 6: And I feel like I.
Speaker 10: Just want to bring a little bit of time and
Speaker 10: space to myself, and I believe she deserves the same thing.
Speaker 10: So my question is how do I approach my wife
Speaker 10: and to let her know, Hey, I just want a
Speaker 10: little bit of free time, you know, go out by myself,
Speaker 10: do my own thing. What would be something that you
Speaker 10: guys would advise for me to do in that scenario?
Speaker 10: And last part Rory, if you ever need a father
Speaker 10: to come up to the podcast.
Speaker 6: I love to conversation.
Speaker 1: Have a father, but like, if you need one, like
Speaker 1: another one he I think he should articulate that to her.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean I don't like you, but humans need space
Speaker 1: away from each other. Let's put a calendar together where
Speaker 1: you get this time, I get this time, and then
Speaker 1: let's miss each other for a second. That's just hard
Speaker 1: to explain to a woman. Do I have it wrong here?
Speaker 5: It's not.
Speaker 4: It's hard nothing. What I just don't like when you
Speaker 4: say it's hard to explain for to a woman because
Speaker 4: I know men who are like that and women are
Speaker 4: the opposite. Some people are just cleanier than others, male
Speaker 4: or female.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's true some people I know some clean emails
Speaker 9: where I'm like, yo, I know you annoy your girlfriend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know more men like that.
Speaker 6: But you annoy me and we're not even like I
Speaker 6: know your girlfriend. It's six because I know guys like that.
Speaker 9: Feels like a shot you to you know you're you're
Speaker 9: the exact opposite.
Speaker 1: Please give me my fuck is face.
Speaker 8: But I know everyone leave me alone.
Speaker 5: You're an only child.
Speaker 4: What I'm telling you is most men that I come
Speaker 4: into contact with dating my friends are dating men are
Speaker 4: very like here with their girlfriends.
Speaker 1: Well, you have the right analysis of me of needing
Speaker 1: space and then also being under your skin when I
Speaker 1: want to be, but away from you when I want
Speaker 1: to be. That was an accurate thing for me. But
Speaker 1: I've been in a situation like this. It's okay to
Speaker 1: explain to your partner that there's nothing wrong. It's just
Speaker 1: a human need some space. We don't always have to
Speaker 1: be around each other all the time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people don't realize how much.
Speaker 9: Your own personal space and time to just be alone
Speaker 9: in your thoughts is. It's necessary, and especially if you
Speaker 9: have like a relationship, if you live with somebody, it's
Speaker 9: tough because you don't really have that time to just
Speaker 9: get away and then if you do try to get
Speaker 9: that it's what's wrong? You know, it turns your head.
Speaker 9: It's like, nothing's wrong, it's just human moment. Just need
Speaker 9: some space and time to just be alone with my thoughts.
Speaker 1: I forgot the comedian who did this bit, so I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna carl us men see this this generation. He
Speaker 1: was suggesting, like, when we're at work, we still text
Speaker 1: with our partner all day. We are constantly texting with
Speaker 1: the person that we are with, even when we're separated.
Speaker 8: So by the time we get home.
Speaker 1: I know to talk about I know about your fucking day.
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing to discuss here because the time we
Speaker 1: even had away from each other, we knew everything that
Speaker 1: was going on. It wasn't really like we were apart
Speaker 1: like that. So, yeah, we need space. I'm fine texting
Speaker 1: with my partner all day, but let's also set aside
Speaker 1: days where I could just do shit on my own.
Speaker 1: I got my own hopes, my own dreams.
Speaker 6: Let me go, you know, chase your dreams at least
Speaker 6: think about them.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like maybe I want to take a day
Speaker 1: off and route the entire United Healthcare Killer route, Like
Speaker 1: I want to start at that hotel and go through
Speaker 1: figure it out Central Park and see the things that
Speaker 1: he saw, and like maybe even take one of those
Speaker 1: sticks that like measures the yards, Like those are certain
Speaker 1: things that I need space to do.
Speaker 6: I'm going to inspected guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like, I think it's great if you know
Speaker 1: you have a partner that would be like, oh, that's great.
Speaker 1: I respect your stuff, but I can't come with you. No,
Speaker 1: I need to be focused on the yard between Central
Speaker 1: Park and this hotel. So just explain it to her
Speaker 1: that way and I'm sure it'll go find.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Hella, you need space is important, and she could
Speaker 6: have a space too.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, she probably wants it as well. Like,
Speaker 3: I'm sure you're not the only person in the house
Speaker 3: that feels that way. Yeah, Troy's plan. I think we're
Speaker 3: too over interconnected. We don't need to be on top.
Speaker 3: I don't need to know what you're doing every hour
Speaker 3: of the day, or what you had for launch, or
Speaker 3: just fucking see you when you get home.
Speaker 1: I have it. And I'm not going to make this
Speaker 1: gender specific whatsoever. This is only offensive to somebody that
Speaker 1: is defined by their relationship if they have nothing else
Speaker 1: going on in their life or their own individual stuff.
Speaker 8: This is a threat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whereas someone else that has their own I'm not
Speaker 1: even saying like shit together stuff going on, but their
Speaker 1: own hobbies and things that they just want to do
Speaker 1: on their own. This is a threat to them because
Speaker 1: their relationship has been defined by us being together and
Speaker 1: they could be great at it. Us together could be amazing.
Speaker 1: But if I need some space to go do something
Speaker 1: I'm passionate about and you don't have a passion outside
Speaker 1: of this relationship, threat to our relationship.
Speaker 6: We had to talk before. Are you cool with even
Speaker 6: like if you're like married with your your your wife
Speaker 6: or your husband having like you have separate living, like
Speaker 6: you have your home together, but then you have like
Speaker 6: your own apartment.
Speaker 1: I thought you were wild for that one. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've talked about this. That was That was an early episode.
Speaker 1: Mall thinks that when you're married, if you have the means,
Speaker 1: you should be able to have your own separate apartment
Speaker 1: that she doesn't even know the address to see.
Speaker 9: I didn't say that, Yeah you paid it, you made
Speaker 9: it crazy, No, But I'm just saying, if you can't
Speaker 9: afford a house big enough to where it feels like
Speaker 9: we're in the same house, but we don't have to
Speaker 9: see each other if we don't want to. Some people,
Speaker 9: you know, don't have the means for that. But if
Speaker 9: you say, like, Okay, when we met, I had my
Speaker 9: apartment uptown in the Bronx. We're together now, but I
Speaker 9: still have my apartment and we get married, I still
Speaker 9: have my apartment.
Speaker 1: Like how it still takes means to though, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: you might as well buy the bigger house with a mortgage,
Speaker 1: then keep that apartment you keep.
Speaker 3: I think christ the Stefano says that he has a spot.
Speaker 3: He's talked about it openly on his pod, that he
Speaker 3: has a spot that's like his place. He has the
Speaker 3: spot with his girls as girls and his kids and
Speaker 3: all that, but he also has like a spot that's
Speaker 3: just for him for like writing or just you know,
Speaker 3: doing whatever, fighting, fucking.
Speaker 5: I think that's very healthy. I've always been pro that. Ever.
Speaker 4: I saw it in Sex and the City when I
Speaker 4: was young, and I saw that they had like they
Speaker 4: wrote like, huh, I know, probably, but they had an apartment, well,
Speaker 4: Carrie's extra apartment after her and Big moved in most
Speaker 4: toxic relationship in the history of Earth.
Speaker 5: But we're not gonna talk about that.
Speaker 4: But they had a separate apartment where you know, he
Speaker 4: would go maybe two days a week or she would
Speaker 4: go maybe two days a week, just so that they
Speaker 4: can have some time away from each other.
Speaker 5: Especially living in New York City, it's tight.
Speaker 4: Like even if you have a big apartment in New
Speaker 4: York City, it's still small, and it's you just need
Speaker 4: space from people, and that's from everybody.
Speaker 5: You get tired of people.
Speaker 4: You love your mother and your father to death, but
Speaker 4: by the time you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty years old, you
Speaker 4: can't wait to get the fuck away from them.
Speaker 5: Like it has nothing to do with love.
Speaker 4: It's just like, if you spend enough time with anybody,
Speaker 4: you will get sick of them. And I think that
Speaker 4: that can be strenuous on relationships. So I do think
Speaker 4: that it's important to prioritize having your own separate lives,
Speaker 4: your own separate friends, your own separate outings.
Speaker 5: And yeah, that's why I know people come at.
Speaker 4: Co parenting, but I know so many happy co parents
Speaker 4: because it's like I love this kid to death, but
Speaker 4: I have them four days and then I don't have
Speaker 4: them for three and it's like, yeah, I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just I see parents be much happier. It's whether
Speaker 4: it's kids, relationships is all around the board. You will
Speaker 4: get tired of the people you love if you spend
Speaker 4: so much time with them. So I definitely think you
Speaker 4: need to have that conversation with her. Just people can
Speaker 4: be sensitive, So just make sure you let her know
Speaker 4: that you're not tired of her.
Speaker 5: You just think it.
Speaker 4: Frame it as if she might be tired of you,
Speaker 4: and like, I know you're probably tired of me. Let's
Speaker 4: do this or let's separate, because I want our marriage
Speaker 4: to have fire throughout. I don't want us to burn
Speaker 4: out of each other because I want this to last
Speaker 4: for forever. So let's take these precautions before these things happen.
Speaker 1: Even not with co parenting, when spouses or partners need
Speaker 1: a break for a few days and you're by yourself, yeah,
Speaker 1: get this kid away from me for six hours, like
Speaker 1: I think, I want to take the night by myself.
Speaker 1: That works with a schedule with people that live together
Speaker 1: in happy families, you get this weekend all to your
Speaker 1: fucking self. I will give you updates on how your
Speaker 1: child is doing. I know you miss them, but go
Speaker 1: be a human being, especially when you get married and
Speaker 1: have kids and all that and start living together like
Speaker 1: people lose themselves in that, even in the healthiest form
Speaker 1: of it. You just lose who the fuck you are
Speaker 1: because your identity becomes this family. Go learn about yourself again.
Speaker 9: Yeah, you know, I agree, space is necessary. Mm we
Speaker 9: got another one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's dark.
Speaker 1: It's been a dark episode.
Speaker 2: I figured, let's this.
Speaker 11: Jen Zu from Gary, Indiana by way of Phoenix, Arizona
Speaker 11: has Gibbs Love the Pod Love Everything I'll Do. I
Speaker 11: listen to every day when I'm driving for work. So
Speaker 11: this is pretty much my question. A couple of years ago,
Speaker 11: my mother was murdered based Recipeace and after everything I
Speaker 11: went down, we found out that my younger sibling had
Speaker 11: a hand in that murder. And you know now that
Speaker 11: sibling is currently in prison but does have a release
Speaker 11: date in about a couple I'd say maybe twenty years
Speaker 11: or so.
Speaker 2: So my question is saying a couple then twenty years
Speaker 2: or so? Is yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Now feel bad about joking about paraside earlier.
Speaker 2: Oh ship, Yeah, that's this. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sorry.
Speaker 11: How to respond to knowing that someone you loved was
Speaker 11: killed by someone else you love, or at least you know,
Speaker 11: they were involved and had a partner and also tried
Speaker 11: to assist in hiding it until it was found out.
Speaker 11: I mean, you know, love myself, I've gotten to a
Speaker 11: point where I have forgiveness and I've gotten to you know,
Speaker 11: I've had therapy and everything with it, but you know
Speaker 11: that scar, that hate, that that pain is still there
Speaker 11: and uh no, no, lie, Like you know because it's
Speaker 11: my sibling. And you know, if y'all got siblings, you
Speaker 11: understand when that person does get out of it, get out
Speaker 11: and if I do see them, you know, I'm want
Speaker 11: to brace them, hug him. But then I'm gonna give
Speaker 11: him just the meanest siblings and siblings flat of all time,
Speaker 11: just for the fact that they pretty much changed the
Speaker 11: whole trajectory of our family and everything else after that.
Speaker 11: So just want to know what y'all think about that.
Speaker 11: Love to hear what y'all got to say, Love the pocket,
Speaker 11: Do what y'all do?
Speaker 9: Peace out something like that is you know, you can
Speaker 9: never I don't think you ever fully process something like that.
Speaker 9: But it at least he has some years to kind of, like,
Speaker 9: you know, live with it. You know where he is
Speaker 9: today mentally, I'm sure he will not be in the
Speaker 9: same place twenty years from now, or hopefully he won't be.
Speaker 9: But yeah, I mean, just that's tough, man. That's that's
Speaker 9: a tough situation to be in, like your mom, you know,
Speaker 9: losing your mother and then at the hands of one
Speaker 9: of your siblings, you know, having a part in that.
Speaker 9: That's that's some deep trauma that I don't don't think
Speaker 9: you ever truly get over get passed.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've never been in a situation like that,
Speaker 1: So I would never want to give advice except for saying,
Speaker 1: you have twenty years to process it. Yeah, and don't
Speaker 1: beat yourself up overthinking you have to have an answer
Speaker 1: right now, Like go through the proper emotions with yourself.
Speaker 1: Said he was in therapy. You're going to be a
Speaker 1: whole different person in five years, let alone twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you may come to the conclusion that I request
Speaker 1: my sibling be fuck that, or you may come to
Speaker 1: a forgiving place. It's not really our place to say
Speaker 1: what to do there, except for go through the motions.
Speaker 9: I mean, I lost a sibling twenty years ago, and
Speaker 9: even sometimes to this day, I'll go back and forth
Speaker 9: with what would I do if we found out who
Speaker 9: killed them. Yeah, some days is straight pack me up.
Speaker 9: I'll go sit down in prison for some years. And
Speaker 9: in some days it's when does the cycle end? You
Speaker 9: know what I'm saying. It's not bringing my brother back
Speaker 9: if I go out here and do something like that.
Speaker 9: Like so, you know, you have your days and it
Speaker 9: never gets easy.
Speaker 6: You just learn to live with it.
Speaker 9: But yeah, just take your time, man, And you being
Speaker 9: in therapy is a great thing, because I wish that
Speaker 9: I had probably took therapy for that, but you know,
Speaker 9: luckily I had enough relatives and people to talk to
Speaker 9: around me about that, people that experienced the same type
Speaker 9: of loss to help me through that. But it's never
Speaker 9: something you get past twenty years. You think it's a
Speaker 9: long time, it's not. Twenty years goes by very fast.
Speaker 9: And yeah, just hopefully you are at a better place mentally, spiritually,
Speaker 9: and you know, hopefully the family is as well, because
Speaker 9: that is a very deep rooted traumatic thing for the
Speaker 9: family to have to.
Speaker 6: Get through and live with.
Speaker 4: So so I don't I'm not saying this to be
Speaker 4: insensitive or to make jokes. I'm saying this because I'm
Speaker 4: just going to where I would go with my siblings,
Speaker 4: because my parents always raised me that to always pick
Speaker 4: my siblings over anybody, including them. That's just how we
Speaker 4: were raised. Have you ever considered that, maybe, I'm sure
Speaker 4: you have. But if your sibling had a reason, and
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about a logical reason, because there's no
Speaker 4: logical reason to kill someone outside of them doing some awful,
Speaker 4: heinous thing, right, but I mean mentally traumatically. Sometimes families
Speaker 4: go through things. Did your sibling have a reason? If
Speaker 4: they did, or you feel like they did, there's some
Speaker 4: shit that you know that other people might not know,
Speaker 4: it might make it a little bit easier for you
Speaker 4: to forgive. And I'm not saying forgive for their sake,
Speaker 4: but to forgive for yours and to just maybe process
Speaker 4: it a little faster so that it doesn't sound like
Speaker 4: just some random thing like this randomly awful thing.
Speaker 5: Happened to my mom.
Speaker 4: I know it doesn't bring her back, I know it
Speaker 4: doesn't make it okay, But just to humanize this person
Speaker 4: that you love, it might be something to consider.
Speaker 5: And if not, if that's just completely there was no.
Speaker 4: Reason for it at all, and they had no reason
Speaker 4: or in no reason that you agree with, then fine.
Speaker 4: But that's just that would be the first thing that
Speaker 4: I would go to do is to humanize it. It
Speaker 4: might not be right, but that's how I will process it.
Speaker 1: And it's not his responsibility to figure that out as well.
Speaker 1: For his own sake, he can, but yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: responsible for your sibling when he gets out of prison,
Speaker 1: of course, or to have any type of resolution with
Speaker 1: that entire thing. Like you have every right to say
Speaker 1: fuck that. I don't need to even clear anything up
Speaker 1: or slap him, Like, I don't even need to be
Speaker 1: around this entire situation. That's not your responsibility.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask, like, would this be a case
Speaker 3: where he would go and visit his sibling at prison,
Speaker 3: like during visits.
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound like he's in that place yet because he's
Speaker 1: talking about when the sibling gets out. But again, go
Speaker 1: through the process, maybe in ten years you'll feel like
Speaker 1: I want to talk to him. Who the fuck knows? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you never know that type of stuff, And again we
Speaker 1: don't know the details, so it's tough to really gauge reasons.
Speaker 6: My mama is I don't know, man, that that's a
Speaker 6: whole different type of Let.
Speaker 5: Shoot, everybody doesn't have your mom.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 9: We don't notice the dynamic and what happened, and that's
Speaker 9: very true. But him still being you know, somebody that
Speaker 9: lost their mother at the hands of one of his siblings.
Speaker 9: It's tough, man. That's some that's some trauma. I don't
Speaker 9: think you ever get over. You just truly learn how
Speaker 9: to just live and move.
Speaker 6: Forward with it. So, yeah, keep doing the work though.
Speaker 6: Therapy is great, you know, keep doing that.
Speaker 9: And you know, twenty years, like you said, you have
Speaker 9: enough time to grow and in different ways and you know,
Speaker 9: become a better person mentally and spiritually.
Speaker 6: So hopefully he's on the on the road of doing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, well.
Speaker 5: Or I'm going with I mean, you want to tell
Speaker 5: a joke? Made me laugh?
Speaker 1: I'm not good at that. Finally he admits it here weekly.
Speaker 6: What you should.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure or if we had I don't know
Speaker 1: the voicemail, but I'm fine with weeken end on that.
Speaker 1: We will see everybody on.
Speaker 9: Saturday, Saturday, December fourteenth, Gramsey Theater. I think tickets are
Speaker 9: still available, there's limited less. Yeah, I mean, if you know,
Speaker 9: if you're hearing this and you don't have them, you
Speaker 9: should get them right now because they're probably going to
Speaker 9: be sold out in the next day or two. So
Speaker 9: looking forward to seeing everybody at Gramsey Theater Saturday, December fourteenth,
Speaker 9: as we close out our year of live shows. Looking
Speaker 9: forward to seeing some of you crazies that we see
Speaker 9: every year around this time.
Speaker 6: It's kind of like a reunion.
Speaker 1: It is every year, always Holidays year.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you get to see some of the some of
Speaker 6: the wild and Crazy crew.
Speaker 1: Also love I love a Saturday show, especially in New York. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have all day to drink, get drunk.
Speaker 6: Before the show. Yeah, looking forward to it.
Speaker 9: Let's have a great night December fourteenth, Gramsey Theater. We'll
Speaker 9: see y'at there. Enjoy the rest of your week. We'll
Speaker 9: be back in a couple of days to kick it
Speaker 9: with you. Uh, be safe, be blessed.
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