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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Hey, everybody, Monday edition of Clay and Buck kicks off

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Speaker 2: right now. Thanks for being here with us. And as

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Speaker 2: is our case generally speaking on Mondays, there is so

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Speaker 2: much to get to. We've got our friend Alex Barents

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Speaker 2: and joining in the second hour of the program, going

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Speaker 2: to talk to him about the real side effects, especially

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Speaker 2: as it relates to heart issues from those mandatory shots

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Speaker 2: that they tried to make everybody take if you remember

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Speaker 2: the whole COVID thing. We've also got author god Sad

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Speaker 2: will be with us. He's got a book out. Third hour,

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Speaker 2: very anti woke, brilliant guy, and we'll be talking to

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Speaker 2: him about his latest opus. And we've got Clay so

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Speaker 2: many things here. First off, Biden has admitted, because I

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Speaker 2: think the outcry was so clear and full throated from

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Speaker 2: so many people, or I should say, has recorded his

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Speaker 2: grandchild out of wedlock from Hunter Biden, so we can

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Speaker 2: discuss how the politics shifted on that. So Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: shifted on that, which is unsurprising. The mar al Lago

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Speaker 2: property manager. We know that there's the possibility, seems now

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Speaker 2: the high likelihood of a Trump j six indictment this week,

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Speaker 2: probably tomorrow, maybe Thursday. That's what the indications are. The

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Speaker 2: mar A Lago property manager who has been named in

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Speaker 2: the superseding indictment that came out last week for the

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Speaker 2: document's case, he has not yet entered a plea, and

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Speaker 2: some are thinking that maybe they're trying to pressure him

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Speaker 2: to flip, which would be the way that most federal

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Speaker 2: prosecutions go. You get somebody who is involved as an accessory,

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Speaker 2: and you want them to go after the big fish.

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Speaker 2: We all know the big fish for the deep state

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Speaker 2: here is Donald Trump and the Jack Smiths. But nothing

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Speaker 2: prosecution is going to do everything they can to stack

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Speaker 2: the deck against him. We've got that. We've got the

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Speaker 2: latest polls showing Trump so far ahead that some are

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Speaker 2: looking at the numbers saying it would be unprecedented for

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Speaker 2: anyone else to come up and be able to defeat

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Speaker 2: him in the primary. Just based on what the numbers

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Speaker 2: are now compared to recent elections, he's up in the

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Speaker 2: fifties and Clay. You also have rond DeSantis still in it,

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Speaker 2: still fighting. He has a economic proposal that he put

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Speaker 2: out today for essentially what the DeSantis campaign is promoting

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Speaker 2: for the economy through do present. But let's jump into

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Speaker 2: the big thing that we're all waiting on right now,

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Speaker 2: which is more information about the Biden crime family and

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Speaker 2: the realities here of Hunter Biden's business partner, Devin Archer

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Speaker 2: testifying not about this is the right clay. We've said

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Speaker 2: this all along, Hunters of mess Wait, we know that

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Speaker 2: the Sweetheart deal, we know all that stuff. The big

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Speaker 2: challenge has been or I should say the as you

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Speaker 2: know line for the Libs on this one. We all

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Speaker 2: know what happened there. As long as we can't tie

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Speaker 2: this to Joe Biden, the political damage is limited. Well,

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Speaker 2: Devin Archer is supposed to be testifying today under Oath,

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Speaker 2: who was Hunter's business partner for many years. I think

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Speaker 2: they went to college together, right, or law school together.

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Speaker 2: They go way back. Basically, he's saying Joe Biden is

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Speaker 2: up to his neck in this. That's what we are

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Speaker 2: told is coming out today testimony under Oath. Will it

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Speaker 2: make a difference? Klay, what do you see?

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Speaker 3: I do think it will make a big difference, and

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Speaker 3: I think it will make a big difference in the

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Speaker 3: context of it will directly tie Joe Biden to Hunter

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Speaker 3: Biden's business activities.

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Speaker 2: Buck, have you noticed what's going on now?

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Speaker 3: As you kind of pay attention to the storylines, they're

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Speaker 3: significantly trying to make the argument, well, Hunter Biden may

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Speaker 3: there's absolutely nothing that connects Joe Biden to Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 3: And I've been surprised by some of the media outlets

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Speaker 3: as if it's a statement of fact. I read it

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Speaker 3: the weekend. That doesn't surprise me. But I also read

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Speaker 3: been nothing to connect Joe Biden to his son Hunter's

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Speaker 3: business dealings. There's lots of evidence. Now you can say

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Speaker 3: there's no smoking gun evidence, maybe, but Buck, we've got

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Speaker 3: WhatsApp message, remember that where Hunter is sitting saying I

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Speaker 3: am next to my dad. Right now, it's been proven

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Speaker 3: that he was in his dad's home and he's saying,

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Speaker 3: if you don't call me to a Chinese Communist Party

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Speaker 3: We've got evidence that is going to come out today

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Speaker 3: from Devon Archer, according to the New York Post, of

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Speaker 3: two dozen potential phone calls that were involving Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: The Senate in the FBI statement said that there are

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Speaker 3: seventeen recorded phone calls, fifteen of them Hunter Biden, two

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Speaker 3: of them that are Joe Biden. There is lots of

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Speaker 3: evidence surrounding the Berezma deal in what they wanted. There

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Speaker 3: is Joe Biden bragging about getting a Ukrainian prosecutor fired.

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Speaker 3: There is lots of evidence that Joe Biden was in

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Speaker 3: fact involved in Hunter's business dealings. So my hope is

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Speaker 3: that the Devon Archer testimony under oathed today is going

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Speaker 3: were not connected for purposes of business. So I'm still

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Speaker 3: surprised how many people are out there in the media

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Speaker 3: taking this hook line and sinker argument of oh, well,

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Speaker 3: Hunter may have behaved in appropriately, but there's no connection

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Speaker 3: whatsoever to Joe no, there's a lot, and I think

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Speaker 3: it's going to become increasingly difficult. But after today's testimony

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Speaker 3: to continue that argument of oh, they're not connected from

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Speaker 2: I just want to remind everybody when we're looking at

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Speaker 2: the way these things have gone in the past, right,

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Speaker 2: because what they're going to say, I think they're their

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Speaker 2: total fallback play is going to be Okay, Joe's son,

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Speaker 2: he knew about it, but you know it's not illegal.

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Speaker 2: Trump is under you know, it does indictments. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's crazy at this point, right, But they're just going

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Speaker 2: to say, sorry, no prosecution because no illegality. And I

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Speaker 2: think now obviously Hunter Biden's committed all kinds of illegality,

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Speaker 2: But the way these things have gone in the past,

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Speaker 2: I'm reminded that the former governor of Virginia, Bob McDonald

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Speaker 2: and his wife were federal prosecutors Democrat deep Staters when

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Speaker 2: they're both Republicans. Of course, went after both of them

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Speaker 2: for clay one hundred and seventy thousand dollars of gifts.

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Speaker 2: No official act ever taken, no quid pro quo, nothing.

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Speaker 2: And I bring up the wife because she didn't even

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Speaker 2: have an official role, she had no power, but just

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Speaker 2: because she was attached to him obviously her husband Bob McDonald,

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Speaker 2: and they got one hundred and seventy grand, which you know,

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Speaker 2: for Hunter Biden, that's a rounding error from all the

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Speaker 2: tax evasion that he did, and they wanted to send

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Speaker 2: them to prison for many years. Now. Eventually Supreme Court

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Speaker 2: just saying public corruption has been something that the Democrats

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Speaker 2: when it comes to Republican are super aggressive on. If

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden had a conversation with Hunter Biden where they

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Speaker 2: in on this. That is two people working together to

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Speaker 2: violate federal law. And that's the part of this that

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Speaker 2: I think that Devin Archer testimony could get to. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think that's one hundred percent right buck. I also

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Speaker 2: actually think it starts to call into question why Obama

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Speaker 2: said Hillary's the pick and not Joe Biden, because that's

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Speaker 2: sort of getting glossed over here. But was it possible

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Speaker 2: that the Obama administration, including Barack Obama himself, saw how

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Speaker 2: messy the involvement was with Ukraine. Certainly the death of

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Speaker 2: Bo Biden factors in here in terms of how mentally

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Speaker 2: fit Joe Biden was. But I don't think we can underrate.

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Speaker 3: And this was when Joe Biden was infinitely right, infinitely

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Speaker 3: more in control of his faculties than he is now.

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Speaker 3: Buck and Barack Obama, who had served with him for

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Speaker 3: eight years, a heart beat away from the presidency, said

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Speaker 3: something that's pretty unprecedented. Hey, the secretary of State is

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Speaker 3: the better option. I'm endorsing her. And I just point

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Speaker 3: this out, Buck, Barack Obama never endorsed in the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty Democrat presidential election either. Trump talks a lot about loyalty,

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Speaker 3: but there's not a lot of discussion from the Biden team.

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Speaker 2: But how much more disloyal can you be? Just think

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Speaker 3: You choose your secretary of state over your vice president,

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Speaker 3: and then your vice president runs again, and you don't

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Speaker 3: endorse him until he's already locked up the bid. That's

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Speaker 3: a sign that Obama knew something was out there.

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Speaker 2: I think Buck. It also all lines up because as

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Speaker 2: we've said, and I think this is so important for

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Speaker 2: everyone to remember as we continue that this is going

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Speaker 2: to be an evolving story. We got the Devon Archer

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Speaker 2: testimony today. Remember that's Hunter, Biden's really his best friend

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Speaker 2: and long term business partner, who says he needs to

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Speaker 2: come forward as a civic duty. He knows that I

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Speaker 2: didn't think about that. I'll be honest, if I were

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Speaker 2: Devon Archer, I would be highly concerned about this because

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Speaker 2: did you wouldn't say anything? Probably, to be honest, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the deep state Democrats are going to want payback for

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Speaker 2: any political damage he does them. We all know that.

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Speaker 2: But let's remember to your point about Hunter, and I'm sorry, Joe,

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Speaker 2: and the timing of this and the Obamas and the

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Speaker 2: lack of an endorsement from Barack, the way the world

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Speaker 2: the sit in the cockpit of you know, Biden Force

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Speaker 2: back to some of when some of these deals were

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Speaker 2: look at the situation, You say, Joe, Biden was basically

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Speaker 2: never going to never go to run again. Yep, because

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Speaker 2: Hillary was going to win for eight years. That was

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Speaker 2: what Democrats believed. If you don't have Hillary losing and

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Speaker 2: you don't have the laptop, I think as well. But

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Speaker 2: some of our audiences pointed out too, they get away

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Speaker 2: this being uncovered. And it also goes to why, you know,

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Speaker 2: Joe would have said, hey, look, once you leave office, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just you know, they're just paying hundred It's very

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Speaker 2: hard to prove, you know, an illegal scheme here that

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Speaker 2: goes to corruption if you don't have somebody who's in

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Speaker 2: a position of power. Right, It's that that gets different.

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Speaker 2: That's separate from the wire fraud and the tax charges.

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Speaker 2: But Joe going back into office means that he's under

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Speaker 2: greater scrutiny, and it means all came out. So the

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Speaker 2: plan looks so stupid and reckless now is my point.

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Speaker 2: But from when they were sitting they're not Bidens, are

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Speaker 2: not that smart, and they're very greedy. It didn't seem

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Speaker 2: it you know what I mean. I mean, I know

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Speaker 2: you agree.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it's also important to remember Hunter

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Speaker 3: Biden stopped paying his taxes before his brother died, so

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Speaker 3: they've tried to argue I think again to Curry's sympathy, Oh,

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Speaker 3: what happened with Hunter was a direct reaction to his

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Speaker 3: brother Bo dying, and he had all of the emotional

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Speaker 3: I think the only way to tie this together is

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Speaker 3: but the Biden's thought, Joe Biden thought his career was over.

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Speaker 3: Barack Obama basically thought Joe Biden's career was over, and

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Speaker 3: Great point, Buck, everybody's focused on the VP. Who Trump

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Speaker 1: Today, Sanity in an Insane World. The Clay Travis and

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all

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Speaker 3: They sent out a letter on Saturday, which is rare,

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Speaker 2: This is the DOJ, Biden's DOJ doing witness intimidation. You know, yes,

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Speaker 2: like a mob boss, that is what this was. This

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Speaker 2: Look what's happening to you, folks. We're in a very

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Speaker 3: No doubt we at the top of the next hour,

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Speaker 1: Sleeve, Travis and Buck Sexton on the front lines truth, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, welcome back to you. Eight one hundred two eight

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Speaker 2: This is from It's about crime, decay, fear on the streets,

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Speaker 2: everything that we say, everything that I tell you, everything

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Speaker 2: this letter, failed leadership, including the movement too defund the

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Speaker 2: proliferation of anti police rhetoric have created a heyday for

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Speaker 1: A crowd of.

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Speaker 4: People outside wasn't even allowed in as Montclair Presbyterian Church

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Speaker 2: The issue.

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Speaker 5: The frustration wasn't just named at the District attorney. Captain

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Speaker 5: Clayburch from the Oakland Police Department was wait, can we.

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Speaker 2: Pause it here before we get to the cabin. Clay,

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Speaker 2: the district Attorney's trying to speak to a church in Oakland.

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Speaker 3: This is to me, too, Buck, a perfect representation of

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Speaker 3: we've been making this argument for a couple of years

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Speaker 3: because that's real on the street reaction to left wing

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Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, does anyone want to guess?

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Speaker 5: Play it about what officers are doing to prevent crimes.

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Speaker 2: I know your hands are tied, but you kind of

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Speaker 2: You can hear the fucking cars come up here.

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Speaker 5: Captain Birch try to explain how the department's hands are tied,

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Speaker 3: This is what he's begging for if you listen to

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Speaker 2: And that is the essence of what has to be happening.

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Speaker 2: any any major department, you know, well trained police department

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Speaker 2: anywhere in America, and the cops on the street, they

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Speaker 2: they know the areas, they know the neighborhoods, they know

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Speaker 2: when people are. You know, there's a sense you get,

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Speaker 2: and certainly it's in a different context, but anyone who's

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Speaker 2: been out outside the wire in a battlefield also feels

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Speaker 2: the same thing, where you just get these senses about

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Speaker 2: what's normal what's not. The cops are able to draw

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Speaker 2: upon the experience, especially if they're doing patrol day in

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Speaker 2: and day out, and this is very important for keeping

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Speaker 2: their community safe. I want to just let let it

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Speaker 2: just go even further. Yeah, so they can't chase them.

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Speaker 2: And here's more of this this town hall meeting. It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: Play it tonight was directed at crime Spreez where kids

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Speaker 5: are the suspects. District Attorney Pamela Price said in a

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Speaker 5: recent case there wasn't enough evidence to take a group

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Speaker 5: of kids to court.

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Speaker 2: What happened after they were let go?

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Speaker 5: They probably yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 2: You have you have like you know, ladies in the

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Speaker 2: crowd who are calling out this district attorney who are saying, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you just let them go and now they're little monsters

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Speaker 2: and they're going to attack somebody else. I mean, people

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Speaker 2: are fed up. You know, these are that room clay.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if you looked at the party registration

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Speaker 2: Oakland is a Democrat. It's like San Francisco. It's ninety

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Speaker 2: percent Democrats in that room. But they're sick of living

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Speaker 2: in fear, and they're sick of the Democrats, Soros back

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Speaker 2: DA not doing anything about it.

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Speaker 3: Well, and that's representative I think of what's going on

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Speaker 3: all over the country, and as we move towards the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four election, I think this is why it

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Speaker 3: is so incredibly important to have someone making a coojate

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Speaker 3: argument on what to do with the violent crime rate

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Speaker 3: in this country.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting, but that was the KPIX, which is the

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Speaker 2: Bay Area CBS affiliate that did that report. And look,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's good reporting. People need to see this stuff.

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Speaker 2: You can basically line up Clay at this point in time,

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Speaker 2: the more left wing a city, the more it has

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Speaker 2: suffered in the aftermath of BLM two point zero and

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Speaker 2: the George Floyd riots and everything else. There's like a

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Speaker 2: direct correlation. Just line it up with DC, San France, Chicago,

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Speaker 2: go down all these places. You look at, the greater

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Speaker 2: the concentration of Democrat power and voters, the more degradation

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Speaker 2: and decay relative to where that city was. And they say, oh,

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Speaker 2: but San Francisco is still pretty safe. No, No, look

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Speaker 2: at the crime rate now versus three or four years ago,

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Speaker 2: and it couldn't be more clear. This has been an

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Speaker 2: entirely the soft on crime approach, the permissive approach has

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Speaker 2: been an entirely failed experiment of policy. And the Left

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Speaker 2: was wrong. Just like they were wrong about masks, just

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Speaker 2: like they were wrong about mandatory COVID vaccines, they're wrong

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Speaker 2: about their crime policies too.

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Speaker 4: Yea.

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Speaker 3: And I think this is important, Buck, empathy, because that's

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Speaker 3: what they would argue, we need to be more empathetic

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Speaker 3: for the criminals here. Misguided empathy creates hard times for everyone.

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Speaker 3: So the one group you would think that you don't

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Speaker 3: need to be empathetic for. And I've done criminal law.

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Speaker 3: I understand there are people who commit crimes who actually

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Speaker 3: can get their lives back together again. But the idea

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Speaker 3: that we're being too tough on multiple violent felons and

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Speaker 3: that we're letting people who are committing and perpetrating crimes.

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Speaker 3: And you know this, Buck, and all the police officers

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Speaker 3: out there listening to us know this too, right now too,

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Speaker 3: you mentioned it. They know the one percent of people

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Speaker 3: in these communities who are committing the crimes. Ninety nine

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Speaker 3: percent of people can live in peace and trying to

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Speaker 3: take care of their family and everybody else. It only

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Speaker 3: takes about one percent to throw everything into pure chaos.

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Speaker 2: Look, let's be honest about this too. The sorrows left

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Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party, which call so many of their shots,

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Speaker 2: that is so central to their policy. It upsets them

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Speaker 2: that it's not more guys wearing Maga hats, yes, or

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Speaker 2: right wing who are being arrested everywhere. That's really what

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Speaker 2: this that's really what this ultimately does come down to

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Speaker 2: for a lot of them is, you know, the greatest

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Speaker 2: threat in the country to our safety and security is

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Speaker 2: Trump and white supremacy, as they say, And then they're

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Speaker 2: upset that there aren't more guys with Trump hats being

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Speaker 2: arrested for violent crimes across the country. That's the bottom line.

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Speaker 2: That's what Rashida Talib told us.

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Speaker 3: We talked about this on Friday, Buck when she said

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Speaker 3: the number one threat to America as white men, and.

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Speaker 2: Barely any criticism of her at all. Do you see

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Speaker 2: that on the front page of newspapers? Of course not nope,

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Speaker 2: loud to say whatever she like, I said you're allowed

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 3: I know there's a lot of talk of negativity out

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Speaker 3: there about the future and where we are headed. And

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Speaker 3: I saw this story from the Hill and it is

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Speaker 3: the political identities of twelfth grade boys and that is

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Speaker 3: the percentage identifying as liberal or conservative.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this story yet? Nope?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I think you're going to consider this to

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Speaker 3: be a positive. So they study this going all the

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Speaker 3: way back to nineteen seventy five.

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Speaker 2: Let me give you an idea.

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Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy five, twenty five percent of high school

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Speaker 3: boys considered themselves liberal, and about seven seventeen percent considered

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Speaker 3: themselves to be conservative, so there were substantially more liberal

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Speaker 3: twelfth grade boys. And what's interesting is conservatives. Since nineteen

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Speaker 3: seventy five, conservatives are surging and hitting all time highs

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Speaker 3: among twelfth grade boys. In fact, twenty five percent roughly

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Speaker 3: now consider themselves to be conservative, and I thought this

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Speaker 3: was crazy. Liberal continues to tank in the last several years.

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Speaker 3: It's now down to about thirteen percent, so a huge

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Speaker 3: percentage of twelfth grade boys now are identifying as conservative.

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Speaker 3: And I am fascinated by this because, of course I'm

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Speaker 3: raising three boys right now, but I also am around

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Speaker 3: them quite a bit, them and their friends, and it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 3: Boys are overwhelmingly rejecting the woke culture that they are

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Speaker 3: growing up in and rebelling in particular.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what girls are doing, right, I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure what the data would reflect on girls. My inclination

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Speaker 3: would be that girls have always been more liberal in

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Speaker 3: the twelfth grade and women are in general vote more

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Speaker 3: liberal than men. But this was an encouraging data point

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Speaker 3: that basically conservative twelfth graders, again this is the story

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Speaker 3: in the Hill, are now setting all time highs one

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Speaker 3: of the last few years, and the number that are

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Speaker 3: liberal is collapsing. Is that surprise you to encourage you? Well,

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Speaker 3: I think that part of the left wing plan has

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Speaker 3: been to go after more aggressively younger and younger well,

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Speaker 3: issues that affect younger and younger males, specifically, whether it's

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Speaker 3: toxic masculinity or also the assault on gender overall.

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Speaker 2: And I think that there's just a this stuff is

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Speaker 2: incongruous with nature and with our natural selves. Right, You're

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Speaker 2: you're a twelfth grade boy. You know, you've gone through puberty. Really,

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Speaker 2: I mean twelfth grade, you're basically close to being in

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Speaker 2: a lot of them can vote, Yeah, a lot of

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Speaker 2: them are eighteen. I mean, you know, go tell an

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Speaker 2: eighteen year old marine that he's you know, a boy,

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Speaker 2: and you know, watch your teeth, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: eighteen is not you know, we're not really talking about

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Speaker 2: young kids here. But you know, I think part of

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Speaker 2: this is the aggressive agenda of the left has has

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Speaker 2: just been running up against the basic feelings that you

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Speaker 2: have as you become a man, you know, and and

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Speaker 2: the war on masculinity has become more and more aggressive

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Speaker 2: at a younger age, and you know, the pop culture

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Speaker 2: is increasingly trying to undermine that. You know, there is

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Speaker 2: a you know, whether it's starting with little boys, you know,

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Speaker 2: three four years old who want to play with trucks

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Speaker 2: and dinosaurs. I know this from my own little nept

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Speaker 2: He doesn't want to play with princess dresses. He wants

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Speaker 2: to and he picks. He wants to play with trucks

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Speaker 2: and dinosaurs and crash them and make a lot of noise.

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Speaker 2: And my grand you know, my mom and dad, grandpa

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Speaker 2: and grandma, they have to run around and chase him,

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Speaker 2: and he's, you know, a little little crazy man. And

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Speaker 2: my friends who have girls who are that age, they say,

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Speaker 2: it's a very different situation that continues. And by the

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Speaker 2: time you're eighteen, unless you've been so fully indoctrinated, you

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Speaker 2: recognize that what the left is pushing is contrary to

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Speaker 2: your basic masculine nature.

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Speaker 3: I agree with that one hundred percent. I also Buck

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Speaker 3: would build on it. This makes why Andrew Tate, Joe Rogan,

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Speaker 3: Jordan Peterson. I think they represent different aspects of the

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Speaker 3: masculine id, But why all three of those guys are

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Speaker 3: so incredibly popular on YouTube? Obviously, there's a big gap

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Speaker 3: between Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tait, but I would say

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Speaker 3: what connects them is discussing traditional notions of masculinity and

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Speaker 3: how to be a man. I think that young boys

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Speaker 3: rising into twelfth grade, when I see this data, are

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Speaker 3: recognizing that they're being sold a bill of goods and

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Speaker 3: that much of what they're being told is not real,

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Speaker 3: and they're rejecting it.

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Speaker 2: I take it as an incredibly encouraging sign. I'm encouraged

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Speaker 2: by it too. There's other data out there that you know,

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Speaker 2: some college classes, half of the class practically now says

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Speaker 2: they're LGBTQIA plus and they use terms like cisgender and

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Speaker 2: everything else. So you know, I don't know whose data

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Speaker 2: sets are more indicative of where things are going. But

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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, if you believe boys

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Speaker 2: are boys and girls are girls and there's a difference

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Speaker 2: between the two, you find yourself becoming more conservative and

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Speaker 2: right wing over time, and that is through our advantage.

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Speaker 3: New York Times pull out Republican primary today. What does

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Speaker 3: it tell us where we headed? We'll tell you next