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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. Made it to a Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Gang's all here, ready to go? What a strange night.

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into the NBA Draft, Clay Thompson's injury. Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night football coming up the Cardinals and the Seahawks Age

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Speaker 1: morning to our great radio affiliates around the world, numbering

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Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy and also our TV partner Peacock.

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Speaker 1: You can download the app and watch for three all

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Speaker 1: three hours. Cardinals Seahawks is a crucial NFC West game tonight,

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Speaker 1: but I think the narrative is going to be about

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. It's Kyler Murray versus Russell Wilson. It's about

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Speaker 1: the short, dynamic quarterback revolution. And get ready for a

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Speaker 1: graphic comparing Kyler and Russell to guys like Doug Flutie

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Speaker 1: and fran Tarkington and of course Drew Brees. You know,

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Speaker 1: it used to be the prototypical draft pick at that position,

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Speaker 1: the six four gun slinger us going number one in

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Speaker 1: the draft. But you have this new wave of quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: and they do things differently, Murray and Wilson leading the

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Speaker 1: charge there. They make plays out of the pocket. What's

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Speaker 1: even more remarkable about Drew Brees is he's barely six

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Speaker 1: feet tall and he's a pocket quarterback, So that sort

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Speaker 1: of blows away everything that you got to be six

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Speaker 1: a guy who doesn't use his legs either to extend

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Speaker 1: a play or to get some big yardage there. But

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Speaker 1: tonight it'll be a lot of fun. Kyler Murray and

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson with a lot at stake here. This is

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Speaker 1: a huge game for Seattle. Can't afford to lose another

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Speaker 1: one to Arizona. But the showdown should be one of

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Speaker 1: the more entertaining ones of the year. But Seattle hosting Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and I do believe on Friday morning, if Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: happens to win this game, Kyler Murray will emerge as

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Speaker 1: the MVP favorite. Guaranteed. Just feels like that's going to happen,

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Speaker 1: because after every game, it's a referendum on who's the

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Speaker 1: MVP right now. If Ben doesn't have a good game,

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Speaker 1: is next game or has a great game is next

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Speaker 1: game and they win. You know, Ben should be in

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Speaker 1: the top three. If Russ has a great game, then

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, yeah, Russell is still the MVP candidate,

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Speaker 1: the leading one perhaps. Meanwhile, Patrick Mahomes is just going hello, anybody,

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Speaker 1: anybody notice what I'm doing over here? Nope, not right now,

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Speaker 1: they're not mcluve. And I'll have a poll question. Do

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Speaker 1: you have a poll question right now? You have a

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Speaker 1: question right now? Well, what if Patrick Mahomes, who's angry

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Speaker 1: at the Raiders throw as nine touchdowns on Sunday? Can

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray Russell Wilson be the MVP on Friday and

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Speaker 1: then on Monday we come in and give it to

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes. Is it that game to game? It feels

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Speaker 1: like it is because this has become a thing for shows.

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Speaker 1: It didn't used to be a thing week to week

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Speaker 1: where we go who's the MVP? Now we do that

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Speaker 1: with the Heisman. I understand that, but this is a

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Speaker 1: very slow him year. It feels like we've taken all

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Speaker 1: that energy, all that attention that we give with the

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Speaker 1: Heisman week to week, and then we've attached it to

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Speaker 1: the NFL. I get it. Look, we're all trying to

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Speaker 1: fill up time. When we do these shows, you just

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Speaker 1: hope that you can add something to it when you

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Speaker 1: have a topic like this with Kyler Murray and this

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Speaker 1: would be once again that second year quarterback. We saw

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Speaker 1: that with Mahomes, we saw it with Lamar Jackson, and

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Speaker 1: you had people who are hedging their bets of Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen and Kyler Murray. Murray seems like he's the real deal,

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Speaker 1: but he should be. He's the number one pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft. I like how people are surprised when somebody goes, man,

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Speaker 1: he's really good. He should be. He's the number one

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Speaker 1: pick in the draft, unless it's the NBA Draft, and

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Speaker 1: then you go, can Anthony Edwards be a great player?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I like this philosophy last night and

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Speaker 1: I was asked the question of who do you think

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Speaker 1: is going to go number one? And I said, the

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Speaker 1: fact that I'm not sure tells you there's not a

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Speaker 1: number one pick overall in this AFT. We didn't have

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Speaker 1: Zion Williamson, there's no Lebron. You had some players who

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Speaker 1: if there's any star quality. I think LaMelo Ball has

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Speaker 1: star capability. But that's because of social media. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to the Hornets with Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan reportedly was

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Speaker 1: interested in Russell Westbrook if they didn't get LaMelo Ball,

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Speaker 1: and they got him, and that sets up the ultimate

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Speaker 1: showdown LaVar Ball versus Michael Jordan. There's no excuses now

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Speaker 1: when dad comes to visit son, when Jordan the owner

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Speaker 1: what's at stake. How about if I beat you, you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed back in North Carolina ever again. You can't

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Speaker 1: see a home game with your son. But now it's real.

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Speaker 1: I love the I any of that. You know that

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Speaker 1: here is his dad calling out Michael Jordan. And his

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Speaker 1: gonna back Jordan down as if he's the only guy

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Speaker 1: He'd better not miss that jumper. Okay, I loved it though,

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Speaker 1: But I like the pick, I like LaMelo Ball, I

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Speaker 1: do the Knicks maybe didn't screw things up. They got

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Speaker 1: Obie Toppin from my alma mater, Dayton, and by all accounts,

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Speaker 1: great kid from the area and was emotional about going

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Speaker 1: to the Nick. At first I thought he was going

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Speaker 1: he was crying because he was going to the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: And that wasn't the case. Because here's obi Toppin going

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Speaker 1: to the Knicks and why it's a big deal to him.

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Speaker 1: I'm from New York. That's why it's important. Me, me,

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Speaker 1: me repping my city. Is it's amazing. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people pray to be in this position. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna take him for granted. I promise you that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's great. By all accounts, he's a very interesting prospect here.

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Speaker 1: A lot of athleticism can run. You know, you developed

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Speaker 1: that mid range jumper, maybe a little deeper than that,

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Speaker 1: and maybe the Knicks finally did it right here in

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Speaker 1: the draft. Yes, Polly Daniel kind and bearing the lead.

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Speaker 1: My bulls got Patrick Williams of Florida State. Hey, you

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Speaker 1: here about that. I'm glad that you brought it up,

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Speaker 1: because when Patrick Williams went to the Bulls. I think

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Speaker 1: Pauli sent out a tweet or mclovin did or text

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Speaker 1: and like who. Patrick Williams was taken fourth overall by

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Speaker 1: the Bulls. He was sixth Man of the Year in

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Speaker 1: one season at Florida State board winner, coming off the

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Speaker 1: bench and every game. He's the first college player taken

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Speaker 1: in the top five who never started a game in

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Speaker 1: college groundbreaking since Dion Waiters of Syracuse back in twenty twelve.

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Speaker 1: That was actually the best question of the night and

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Speaker 1: the interview, like, how do you think that's going to

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Speaker 1: started a game before? We got our guy. We wanted

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Speaker 1: a guy who's never started a game before, we got

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Speaker 1: our six man got him, Like the Bulls should be

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Speaker 1: getting somebody who starts for them. Anybody could do that, Dan,

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Speaker 1: You're right, your counter, you know, the port was probably

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Speaker 1: in the shower, still getting ready for the draft, and Suton,

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Speaker 1: you knew who I felt bad for. Who's the kid

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Speaker 1: from Seaton Hall Powell? Oh, Miles Powell, Oh, oh man,

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Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. That's where he got all dressed up. It

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Speaker 1: looked like he had you know, one hundred thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: on first round goes By, Second round goes By. He's

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Speaker 1: a good player, but he didn't get drafted. What what's

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Speaker 1: that like? Though? If you say, you gather some family

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Speaker 1: members and you're watching, he had a whole production going. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had a big thing. It was such an awkward night.

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Speaker 1: It just was from the broadcast and zooming trades. But

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Speaker 1: somebody who they've been traded, but you can't bring up

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Speaker 1: Association or whatever it is. I mean, they got to

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Speaker 1: social media after a while because I'm going, wait, he's

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Speaker 1: been traded, and then they're going, so, how do you

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Speaker 1: feel about going to Oklahoma City? And then meanwhile you're going,

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Speaker 1: he got traded. John Calipari called out. Somebody said, no,

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Speaker 1: he's not gone there, he's going to the Knicks. But

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Speaker 1: it was happening and everybody knew it. But ESPN has

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Speaker 1: to play the game. It's like when we'd watch the

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft and somebody has to put on a hat

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Speaker 1: and they go, so, what do you think about, you know,

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Speaker 1: going to Carolina. Well, you know, I really love Carolina

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Speaker 1: and I met with that. Meanwhile, like two minutes later,

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Speaker 1: that he's been traded. But it was a bizarre night.

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Speaker 1: But it really started with Clay Thompson. So this is

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Speaker 1: ninety minutes before the draft started, we started to get

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Speaker 1: word that Klay Thompson got hurt lower leg. Now I

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Speaker 1: this was probably a serious injury. But they said lower leg,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, okay, at least it's not the knee.

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Speaker 1: was it the achilles? We don't know the severity of it,

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Speaker 1: was really looking forward to Golden State kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: reconnecting the great players. Even if you don't like Golden State,

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Speaker 1: you do have to love the way they play, and

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Speaker 1: you know that that's a great group of talented players.

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Speaker 1: To see Steph there with Clay, two of the greatest

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Speaker 1: shooters of all time. We didn't get to have that

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Speaker 1: last year. You know, Clay is going to miss another year.

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Speaker 1: If that's the case. With the Achilles Draymond Greenback, they

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Speaker 1: draft James Wiseman. I don't know where he fits. I

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Speaker 1: did think Golden State was going to draft LaMelo Ball

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Speaker 1: because LaMelo Ball. Steph Curry can play two guard, he

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Speaker 1: can play off the ball, and you have LaMelo. If

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Speaker 1: that's the case, he'd be running the point. But they

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Speaker 1: stayed with who I think they were. They penciled it.

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Speaker 1: This is not a position a time where you panic.

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Speaker 1: And I give Golden State credit. They were locked in

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Speaker 1: on who they wanted and they took him and they

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Speaker 1: got James Wiseman there. But what a bizarre night. And

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Speaker 1: I just you know, it really bothered me last night

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Speaker 1: that news about Clay Thompson. Even today, I mean, it

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Speaker 1: I can't I just can't believe it. And you see

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Speaker 1: these athletes and they you know, Teddy Bridgewater, we thought

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Speaker 1: his career was over. Deshaun Watson got injured his second year,

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Speaker 1: and you just we want to see great players have

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Speaker 1: that opportunity to be great again. Alex Smith. They're just

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Speaker 1: times when we look at them as things and then

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Speaker 1: the way it hit me hard last night. With Clay Thompson,

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Speaker 1: I just I like him. I've known his dad for

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Speaker 1: probably thirty five years. You know, Clay wasn't highly recruited,

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Speaker 1: went to Washington State. We weren't quite sure about him.

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Speaker 1: I remember Doug Gottlieb giving me the intel on him,

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Speaker 1: few people around the league saying and thinking that Philadelphia

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Speaker 1: was going to be able to trade him. And Daryl

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Speaker 1: Morey comes in, he moves Al Horford, he brings, he gets,

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Speaker 1: he gets Danny Green in that trade with the Thunder.

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Speaker 1: Later on they bring in a shooter in Seth Curry.

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Speaker 1: They send Josh Richards into Dallas. Seth Curry has been,

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Speaker 1: you know, a fantastic shooter, fantastic value on the contract

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Speaker 1: he has, and just even more than the moves. To me,

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Speaker 1: it's just if you're a Sixer fan and you've you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just been nothing but chaos and turmoil for years,

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Speaker 1: and you have all this doubt about how Embiid and

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Speaker 1: Simmons fit. But Darryl Moorey in very short order, he

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Speaker 1: I mean he's been there a matter of days. He's

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Speaker 1: just shown an ability. You know, he makes moves, he

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Speaker 1: gets things done, he's decisive. I think it just sends

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Speaker 1: the signal that yet we want this guy running our team.

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Speaker 1: You know, they're not, they're by no means done, but

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Speaker 1: they made moves that make a lot more sense for

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Speaker 1: their roster. And I mean the East is the East

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Speaker 1: has gotten tougher, still nowhere near the depth of the West,

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Speaker 1: but Philly looking a lot better on paper today. To

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Speaker 1: go with your Milwaukee's, your Boston's, your Toronto's, your Miami's,

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Speaker 1: Brooklyn's coming back down the top of the East just

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Speaker 1: looks so much better. Talking to Mark Stein, who covers

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Speaker 1: the NBA for the New York Times, I'll leave you

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Speaker 1: with this, anything happened last night that would move the

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Speaker 1: hardened Russell Westbrook conversation forward? No, well, yes, actually one,

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Speaker 1: and not in a forward way. I reported the day

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Speaker 1: before the draft that Charlotte's appetite to trade for Russell

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Speaker 1: Westbrook would go up if they didn't get LaMelo ball.

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Speaker 1: And they got LaMelo ball, So that presumably takes Charlotte

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Speaker 1: out of the mix as a potential landing spot for

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. So you know, the Knicks have explored it,

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Speaker 1: but it's really conditional interest. The Knicks would only do

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Speaker 1: that deal under certain circumstances if they're giving up just

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Speaker 1: the minimum amount of trade assets. And Houston gave up

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Speaker 1: so much to get Westbrook, They're not just going to

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Speaker 1: trade him to make a trade, you know, Washington, that

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Speaker 1: was another one. John Wall and Russell Westbrook are a

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Speaker 1: salary match, but the Rockets are trying to get something.

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Speaker 1: They're trying to get at least one future first back

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Speaker 1: or a good young player there. You know, Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 1: was averaging twenty seven, eight and seven at his peak

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Speaker 1: last season before he had all the injury and coronavirus problems.

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Speaker 1: In the well, he did play very well in the

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Speaker 1: second half of the season. The Rockets don't want to

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Speaker 1: just move him for the sake of it. And in

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Speaker 1: terms of Harden, the consistent message coming out of Houston

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Speaker 1: is they are not in a rush. They want to

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Speaker 1: try to fix this thing. They're not just going to

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Speaker 1: trade him to the Nets. They don't have to trade

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Speaker 1: him to the Nets just because that's where Harden wants

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Speaker 1: to go. They've got him under contract for two more years.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you're going to see the Rockets rush

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Speaker 1: into a hardened deal at all. They are going to

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Speaker 1: try to slow this thing down and see if they

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Speaker 1: can put the pieces back together. Thank you, Mark, We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you getting up to join us. We appreciate your time.

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Speaker 1: All good see you guys. Thank you, but Mark Stein

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Speaker 1: covers the NBA for The New York Times. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern

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Speaker 1: the Kyler Murray topic of if you're Kyler Murray, would

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Speaker 1: you try to play baseball? Now? He was asked about

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Speaker 1: this yesterday and he was on CBS Sports with Tike

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Speaker 1: and Turney and he just to ask if he missed baseball,

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Speaker 1: And you know, Kyler Murray had this to say, I

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Speaker 1: missed baseball for sure, you know, just being in the box,

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Speaker 1: you know, with the guys competing. You know, I know

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Speaker 1: I'm more supposed to be at I don't think, you know,

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Speaker 1: if I would have chose baseball, I think I'd have

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Speaker 1: been missing the hell out of football. But no, for me,

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Speaker 1: I wish I could do both. Um, you know I

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Speaker 1: could never. Yeah, I definitely feel like I could. You know,

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Speaker 1: I never say never, But as of right now, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm having fun to it. I'm you know, do

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Speaker 1: what I love. That's the right decision that yeah, it

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Speaker 1: could happen. But you know, he's got other things to

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Speaker 1: worry about right now. This is his second year in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and he's having a wonderful season, and you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to have somebody go. You know, I

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Speaker 1: still love baseball, I still miss it, still want to play.

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Speaker 1: Remember Anthony Edwards, the number one pick overall, in an

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Speaker 1: interview with the ESPN, said and I'd love to be

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Speaker 1: drafted by the NFL. I mean that's I really love football.

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Speaker 1: And then people weren't sure, Oh does he really love basketball? Well,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota still took him number one overall. But Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: can he play? I don't think he can play regular

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Speaker 1: season baseball. But you go to spring training, just like

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson did, and maybe you'd spend a week there,

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Speaker 1: Maybe you get ten fifteen at bats there, have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of fun out there. But it always helps

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Speaker 1: when you've accomplished something. When you want to try to

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Speaker 1: accomplish something else, you can't go, hey man, I've had

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Speaker 1: a bad year. I'd like to go play some baseball.

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Speaker 1: Russ won a Super Bowl and then said, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to go to the Rangers training camp and

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Speaker 1: maybe play a little second base. Nobody had a problem

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Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, mcclub Kyler Murray has been running the

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Speaker 1: same offense he was in seventh grade. He does a

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Speaker 1: knee training camp. He's fine, and he's just gonna He's

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Speaker 1: just a rare. No one's ever been drafted that high

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Speaker 1: in two sports. He's a in every way. Like it's

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Speaker 1: even Bo wasn't like a top ten pick in baseball. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but people don't. It's the perception of are you giving

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Speaker 1: everything to play the position a quarterback? It you know,

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Speaker 1: how much time are you devote? Oh, you got to

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Speaker 1: make up your mind do you want to be an

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Speaker 1: NFL quarterback? I'm just saying this is how the media

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Speaker 1: will approach this, and then he has to answer these questions.

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Speaker 1: So if he said to me, which he probably wouldn't

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Speaker 1: since we didn't have much to talk about last time

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Speaker 1: we across paths, but I would say, understand, the media

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Speaker 1: is going to be questioning your commitment to the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and if you have a good response to that or

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Speaker 1: you don't care about that, then fine. But if you

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Speaker 1: start to slip up, you have a slow start next season,

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Speaker 1: then they're going to be saying, what were you doing

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Speaker 1: in the off season? Why are you playing baseball in

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Speaker 1: the off season. Not that it would impact his play,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, I just think when you've accomplished something

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Speaker 1: and then you say I want to do something else,

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Speaker 1: then I think you're going to face far less criticism. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think mcloving to say is he could do it.

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Speaker 1: He has the ability obviously play both. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: would get a monster contract if he dropped football. But

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Speaker 1: from a actual standpoint, he's the quarterback. He's not a

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Speaker 1: backup linebacker. And can you imagine if he went and

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Speaker 1: played for the Diamondbacks, you know, for a season. Actually,

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Speaker 1: let's say he was twenty seven. Well, the Arizona Cardinals

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Speaker 1: wouldn't allow that because he played well and they made

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Speaker 1: it deep into the playoffs. He wouldn't be showing up

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Speaker 1: to their facility till November fifth or sixth, and they'd

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Speaker 1: be paying him forty five million dollars a year. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but didn't Bow leave the Royals. He just did hot

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Speaker 1: part of a season. He was even an All Star. Actually,

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Speaker 1: but he's a running back. I mean, the quarterback is different.

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Speaker 1: The quarterback can't go, Hey, I'll be back in week seven, right.

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Speaker 1: But no, I'm saying bow just ditched the Royals mid season.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, like Kyler could Paul. He's saying the baseball

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Speaker 1: team wouldn't let him go. I think the baseball team

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Speaker 1: just like exhibition. I don't think that's correct. I think

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Speaker 1: that the Royals went into the playoffs with Bo Jackson,

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Speaker 1: he would have stayed because I know he joined the

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Speaker 1: Raiders mid season. I don't think he would have been

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Speaker 1: allowed to leave like September twenty second. I don't think

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Speaker 1: this is happening anytime soon. I don't think it. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm not surprised he says he misses baseball. I

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Speaker 1: mean he was going to be a baseball player, and

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Speaker 1: then I think he surprised everybody, including himself with that

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Speaker 1: season at Oklahoma, and then realized their NFL teams looking

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Speaker 1: at what's happened with some of these other quarterbacks, including

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and then Cliff Kingsbury. If Cliff Kingsbury doesn't

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Speaker 1: go to Arizona, I don't know. If Kyler Murray goes, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be the number one overall pick. I

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Speaker 1: don't know where he would have been selected, but Cliff

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Speaker 1: Kingsbury said, that's the guy I want, even though we

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Speaker 1: just spent a first round pick on Josh Rosen, and

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Speaker 1: therefore the decision was easier. He was walking in and

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Speaker 1: going to start. If he played baseball, he wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: up in the major leagues for a couple of years.

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Speaker 1: It's really rare for a draft picked all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: walk in and then go to a major league team.

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Speaker 1: He'd be in the minor leagues. Might be double A,

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Speaker 1: might be triple A. Football played right away. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Speaking of baseball, Robinson Cano has been suspended for the

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Speaker 1: entire season for performance enhancing drugs. This is second time

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Speaker 1: that's happened in the last three years. When somebody says, boy,

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Speaker 1: is it is it worth the risk of cheating? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: How about career salary for Robinson Cano? Don't you know

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Speaker 1: pauli Ante and a calculator? Yeah, yeah, I do. I

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Speaker 1: dock him the twenty four million for this season? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because he won't make that? Oh please, yeah, time to

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Speaker 1: play career salary those who cheat Robinson Cano beam shouted

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Speaker 1: the good button man two thousand and sixty, made three

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty one grand for the Yankees. He uh

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Speaker 1: found the right guy to hook him up, and a

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Speaker 1: couple of years later he's making twenty four million dollars

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Speaker 1: at age thirty one with the Seattle Mariner career salary

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Speaker 1: he's got he's got out of fifty coming from the

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Speaker 1: Mets even missing this here. Okay, um, current not future salary.

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Speaker 1: So what he's made so far, he's got in the

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Speaker 1: bank two hundred twenty three million. I'm gonna give that

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Speaker 1: to you, a two hundred fourteen million. Okay, that's nice,

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Speaker 1: all right. Yeah. So when somebody says, boy, is it

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Speaker 1: worth the risk of getting caught? Yeah? So when Robinson

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Speaker 1: Canoe goes back home to wherever the Dominican Republic, do

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Speaker 1: you think anybody's going, Hey, you cheated, He's probably gone,

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Speaker 1: look at what I got here, Look at what I got.

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Speaker 1: I cheated and got this. You don't want to go

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Speaker 1: on my yacht with where you're not? Yeah, oh, you're

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Speaker 1: not coming over to the Christmas party? Okay. I was

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Speaker 1: given out ferrariris to everybody. Oh Christmas part. Yes. Barry

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Speaker 1: Bonds made more in the last five seasons of his

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Speaker 1: career than he did in the first fifteen. Yes, yeah,

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Speaker 1: was it worth it? Hey, you're not going to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Barry, Yeah, it's okay, Robinson Canoe. It

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Speaker 1: wasn't exactly a secret that Robinson Cano. Don't you know?

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Speaker 1: Remember when he went to Seattle and I go, we'll

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Speaker 1: never hear from him again. Well we have, and it's

627
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: because he cheated and he sits down for an entire season.

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Speaker 1: I can't let you back in, all right, And Robinson

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Speaker 1: Cano probably has a borderline Hall of Fame career. Does

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Speaker 1: that sound about right? McLevin? I don't know. Didn't he

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Speaker 1: take a big breaks? I have no idea. Has he

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Speaker 1: been good in Seattle? I think he took a break

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Speaker 1: to count his money. Wasn't he suspended for a year?

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Speaker 1: And I don't know, Yes, Polly, Robinson Canoe has got

635
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Speaker 1: about eight All Star appearances. He had a run from

636
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 1: age twenty six to thirty one where he was a

637
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: top five MVP vocat or five times. He had a

638
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 1: nice six year run, real nice, not hall of fame

639
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: worth Okay. I didn't know if he'd accumulated any kind

640
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: numbers when he disappeared in Seattle. I didn't know if

641
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: he put up decent numbers, but when he was with

642
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: the Yankees, he put up some pretty good numbers and

643
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: they were winning. You have a point, though, if he

644
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 1: would have stayed with the Yankees and continued, you'd have

645
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: more of a chance because you get more notoriety. Wasn't

646
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 1: he with jay Z? Wasn't that with the Rock Nation?

647
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 1: And then he went to the Mariners And I knew

648
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: he was getting paid, but I said at the time,

649
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: you're getting paid and you're going to disappear from baseball

650
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 1: for five years. Yeah, it's three hundred and thirty four

651
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: career home runs. That's a pretty good for a second baseman.

652
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: How many hits does he does? He have? Over two thousand?

653
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: You got a let's see, I thought he had like

654
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: twenty four. Yes, so three more seasons. He's a Hall

655
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: of Famer as if hitting all those home runs as

656
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: a second baseman isn't a red flag enough? Wait, you

657
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 1: have how many home runs as a second baseman? Three

658
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: hundred career scream steroids? Yeah, Ryan Samberg wasn't hitting that

659
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: many home runs? No, No, and he was great. No, No,

660
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: he was drinking milk. That's where you don't say it

661
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: too loudly that yeah, how many home runs? How many

662
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: home runs do you have? Yeah? I don't know. I

663
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: don't keep it feels like a round one hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty something like blocks that I don't know how many

665
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: home runs they got? Twenty six hundred hits. If he

666
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: played this season, in two more seasons, he's probably knocking

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Speaker 1: on the door with maybe three thousand hits. Yes, don't

668
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,280
Speaker 1: make me say it, though, we don't count hits anymore

669
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: in the Saber metric era in the Hall of Fame voting, No,

670
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: they're a lottics. How many How many guys with three

671
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: thousand hits are not in the Hall of Fame aside

672
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: from Pete Rose and shoeless Joe Jackson, Ethan if you're listening,

673
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: probably not that many. But I don't think there's anybody

674
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: with three thousand hits who's not in the Hall of Fame.

675
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Now you have guys who have five hundred home runs

676
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: who might not be in the Hall of Fame. Uh.

677
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: And you know the drug that he took stand as Zola,

678
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: that that's heavy duty, right. Oh, he's not gonna get

679
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: the cheap stuff. But don't you haven't they gotten it

680
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: down to a science? Apparently he did get the cheap stuff.

681
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: He keeps getting caught. Albert pool Hall says thirty two

682
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,399
Speaker 1: hundred hits. Adrian Beltrey has almost thirty two hundred hits.

683
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's in the Hall of Fame, is he?

684
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: Or did he get it? Well, he's not eligible, no,

685
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: but I think he's supposed to be on. Ok. Yeah,

686
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: he's got a Hall of Famer. He was a great

687
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: third basement A. Rod's got thirty one hundred hits. He's

688
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: probably not getting in. He shouldn't get in. It's funny

689
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: that he's not getting in, but yes done systemics down

690
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: of Zolo is used in horses as an antibolic and

691
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: or androgynic steroid and dopen agent did trying to think

692
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: did you use steroids in high school time? I did not? Okay,

693
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: I ain't just curious. Were you offered them? No? But

694
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: I saw him like, you know, in the bathroom, like

695
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: in a gym in Brooklyn that I was at, and

696
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: you know, you hit people talking about that at a

697
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: tours flattering if someone accuses you of being on something.

698
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I was too timid to like even consider like taking

699
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: a pill or injecting something I don't touch anywore. Yeah. See,

700
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: I totally would have really if I could have gotten

701
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: steroids in high school. Heck yeah, heck yeah. To play

702
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: sports are to be just in great shape, probably both. Well,

703
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: what happens is you have these kids in the minor

704
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: leagues and they see somebody who's doing well or they

705
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: know somebody who's using. Therefore, you you have that crossroads

706
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: where you go, do I do it naturally or do

707
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 1: I do what they're doing? But I thought they had

708
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 1: it down to a science. Did Raphael Palmerol get busted

709
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: for this same steroid? Did Ben Johnson at the Olympics

710
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: with Carl Lewis in Soul, South Korea get busted for

711
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: this drug? Because that's been around for a long long time.

712
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah mclovin, Yeah, Raphael Palmira was stant as all as well?

713
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: Did did stantazol all? Sorry? Stan? Yeah, I'll check on that.

714
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: It was Johnson. Ben Johnson Was he using that when

715
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: he lost the one hundred meter gold medal to Carl Lewis? Yes? McLevin, Yeah,

716
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: another Stanzola dam But they did they invent new things? Yes,

717
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 1: like when your guy comes to you and he's just like,

718
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,879
Speaker 1: I got this Stana zolaal or whatever. And you're like, wow,

719
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Everybody keeps getting caught on that. Yeah,

720
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: got anything else, but they created Okay. So a friend

721
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: of mine, his daughter was going out with somebody in

722
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: the Indians organization and he was in the miners and

723
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: uh I saw him and we started talking and then

724
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: I just sort of said, how are guys getting around

725
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: the drug testing because it's far more strict stringent in

726
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: the in the minor leagues. And he said, we got

727
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 1: a shake. I said, what do you mean you got

728
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: a shake? He said, well, we can take you know, hh,

729
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: or we take steroids and there's a shake that we

730
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 1: take prior to testing and we don't test positive. So

731
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Speaker 1: that's somebody in the minor leagues who doesn't have anywhere

732
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: near the money of Robinson Canoe and you haven't found

733
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: found a masking agent for them. It's a drug you

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Speaker 1: give horses. Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast.

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738
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,319
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00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,880
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Speaker 1: Nick Friedale covers the Warriors for ESPN dot com and

742
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: he joins us, now, what are the early reports, Nick Dan?

743
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: The Warriors don't feel great about everything. The fear is

744
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: that it's an achilles injury. But I can tell you

745
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: even a few hours ago they were still holding out

746
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 1: hopes that it wasn't as severe initially as it appeared

747
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: to be. So while they're bracing for the worst, certainly

748
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: there is still some optimism. And Myers hinted at that

749
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: during his conference call. He said, Look, it doesn't look great,

750
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: but we're just hoping for the best and we'll see

751
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 1: what happens when the tests come. How was he progressing

752
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: from his knee surgery from a year ago. He looked

753
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: great by all accounts. Steve Kerr, Bob Myers, they've all

754
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: said the same thing in recent weeks. They said that

755
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 1: this guy is looking like the player that we had

756
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: seen before. Now it's worth noting dam that when the

757
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: Warriors had their team bubble back in late September, Thompson

758
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: still wasn't cleared for scrimmages. The Warriors were being very

759
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: cautious because remember at that point it was still the

760
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: NBA season could start in January February. Nobody really knew

761
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: for sure, but he had started to ramp it up

762
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: the last few weeks they had seen him. They said

763
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: he looked like the old Clay and it was just

764
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: a gut punch for everybody within that organization. Did their

765
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: draft strategy change at all or come close to changing

766
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: it all last night because of this injury, not one bit.

767
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: Wiseman was the guy that they targeted all along. He

768
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,920
Speaker 1: was the number one pick on their board. They knew

769
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: that he would fill an immediate hole in the middle,

770
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,919
Speaker 1: being able to defend, pairing him with Draymond, being able

771
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: to learn from Draymond every day. They liked him all along,

772
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: and Meyers said flatly, it didn't change one thing because

773
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: if Wiseman was there, we were going to take him.

774
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: It's obviously a big loss to lose Klay Thompson and

775
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: I don't know who fills that void. Can anybody feel

776
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: that void? Do they change different? You know they played

777
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: differently the style this year with Golden Stick. I think

778
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: it's too in grain I don't think anything can change

779
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: from a system standpoint, and Dan certainly nobody's filling playsful.

780
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: He did so many things for them, and we know

781
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: about the jumpers, But defensively, Steve Kerr the fact that

782
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: you could just throw him out there on the floor

783
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: and he would take care of whoever the best wing

784
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: defender was on the other team. So he trusted him immensely.

785
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 1: But I'd say on top of who fills the wing roles,

786
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: and that's where the Warriors were short already. It was

787
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: kind of only Clay and Andrew Wiggins. The part that

788
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: is really hurting internally right now is the emotional side,

789
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: because this is a guy. Even with Steph and Draymond

790
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: and Kad when he was there, Clay was the most beloved.

791
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: Clay was the guy that really set the tone behind

792
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: the scenes, and Kurs talked about it a lot over

793
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: the years. Clay is an egoless player. He can just

794
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: kind of fit in and do whatever they needed, and

795
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: to see that he may be down again for a

796
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: while is really hurting everybody on that team right now. Yeah.

797
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: I remember Steve Kurt telling me years ago. He just said,

798
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 1: Clay is there's no maintenance to him like, I don't

799
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: have to worry about anything. It's not touches or being

800
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: a star or points or anything. He said. He just

801
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: is maintenance free and that's rare. It's very rare, and

802
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't want any part of the spotlight. And then

803
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: in all the years I've covered the league, I certainly

804
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: has never seen anybody like Flay because he goes and

805
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: hits all these shots and it's a really solid defender

806
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: when he wants to be. And then he just kind

807
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: of goes home and he's content just kind of hanging

808
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: out with his dog and doing his own thing. He

809
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: doesn't like talking to the media, although he's one of

810
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: the best quotes on the team, and that resonates for

811
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And it's not to say that

812
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: they don't love Steff and Draymond in their own way,

813
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: because they absolutely do. It's just the play marches to

814
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: his own beat, and it's so different than most stars

815
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: in the league, and that's what made him unique. So

816
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: on top of the fact that consistently he was out

817
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: there game after game, putting in the work and putting

818
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: up the numbers, it was the tone he set with

819
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: all the other star power on that roster that Kerr

820
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 1: and Myers love so much. You have an owner who

821
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: seems like he's pretty aggressive to get fans in the

822
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:17,439
Speaker 1: stands this upcoming season. What is the game plan he's

823
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: gonna try? Still, lake Of is as much as he

824
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: can't to get people in there. Then the reality, though,

825
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: is it's going to be tough because San Francisco is

826
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 1: starting to shut more again after a recent surgeon in

827
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 1: COVID cases. So lake Of is still gonna to push

828
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: the envelope the Warriors behind him. He's going to put

829
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: his own money in to do it. It's just gonna

830
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: be so difficult. And I can just tell you personally,

831
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 1: I was living ten minutes away from the arena. To

832
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: see that thing empty day after day is a crusher

833
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 1: for that team and for ownership because that was supposed

834
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: to be the cash cow of cast House. And it's

835
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 1: not to say it still can't be over time, but

836
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: it's empty. It was supposed to be filled every day

837
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: with concerts and other events all the time on top

838
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: of all the games. And now to see that the

839
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: way it is, that's why you're seeing from Lake up

840
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 1: and from the Warriors just pushed so hard to get

841
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: some people back in there and start to get the

842
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: revenue streams going again. Is there a time frame for

843
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: this MRI today with Klay Thompson. I would expect the

844
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: news in the next couple hours. I think everybody was

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Speaker 1: expecting it to be in the morning. And you mentioned

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Speaker 1: Kerr and some of the trainers are headed down there

847
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Speaker 1: and maybe there in the moment, but I would expect

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Speaker 1: something here very soon. Nick, thanks for joining us. We

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00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: appreciate your time. Dan. I've listened to you my whole life.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you guys having me. Thank you. Nick.

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00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: That's Nick Friedell. He covers the Warriors for ESPN dot com. Well,

852
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: they stayed with their big board and they wanted James Wiseman,

853
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 1: and you got a talented big man out of Memphis.

854
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: We don't know much about him. I didn't know if

855
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 1: they would alter their plans and draft LaMelo Ball just

856
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: because you could have Steph play the two guard. But

857
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, I respect them from what they're doing and

858
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: the system that they have. And Steve Kerr probably said,

859
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, Clay will eventually come back. I don't know that.

860
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: You know, when you have an I never had of

861
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: all my injuries. I never had an achilles injury knock

862
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: on wood, But I don't know the varying degrees of

863
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: an achilles injury are their degrees, because it always felt

864
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: like somebody popped their achilles. It wasn't this is a

865
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 1: strain or they partial tear. It always felt like the

866
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,399
Speaker 1: achilles when it goes, it goes, and you know when

867
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Speaker 1: it goes, that's what was, you know, very curious for me.

868
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Speaker 1: And maybe Clay Thompson knows this. Maybe they're just making

869
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Speaker 1: sure they go through all the procedures and maybe get

870
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: a second opinion on this. But if you're achilles has popped,

871
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: you know it. You know Kobe knew it when it

872
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: happened to him. I was on a basketball floor at

873
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 1: the NBA or a college basketball final four, playing a

874
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 1: pickup game in Denver, many many, many years ago, and

875
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: there was a guy who had both achilles pop on

876
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: the same play, and he of course was trying to

877
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: cover me. Yeah, I break ankles, I pop achilles, but

878
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: you know he went down as if he was shot. Yeah. Pull.

879
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: If you were the Warriors and you found out the

880
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: worst news at Clay Thompson is out for the season,

881
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,440
Speaker 1: would you scrap this season and just develop James Wiseman,

882
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: or would you trade James Wiseman the rookie for a

883
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: guard that could help you compete this season? For instance,

884
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: let's say hypothetical you called up the Washington Wizards said

885
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: Bradley Beale who wants out or have heard wants out?

886
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: And Wizards aren't going anywhere? As is a total hypothetical.

887
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: But and also if you're another team, would you try

888
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 1: to go after the Warriors and say, hey, you need

889
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: to compete. Here's what you got. There are very few

890
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: players that I mean, Bradley Beale I think would be

891
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: great for Golden State. I just don't. It feels like

892
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 1: the Wizards aren't going to give up on Bradley Beale.

893
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: They want to give up on John Wall, but they

894
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: don't want to give up on Bradley Beale. But if

895
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: if I'm Golden State, I could get Bradley Beale, what's

896
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 1: he costing me? But I would certainly entertain that idea

897
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 1: because I thought Golden State was going to compete for

898
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 1: a championship having the second pick depending on who they

899
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: were getting, and you had Steph and Clay had Draymond Wiggins.

900
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: It felt like, Okay, you've got a pretty good nucleus here.

901
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 1: You can compete with anybody in the West, but not

902
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: the case. I mean, it stayed with me all last night.

903
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm sort of watching the draft, but I'm not because

904
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 1: I just can't help. But think of Clay Thompson. When

905
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: you come back from an injury and you can't wait

906
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: to get back, and you're testing your knee, and then

907
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: you go out and end you play pickup games and

908
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: then you're ready, and then in training camp and then

909
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to get back and I'm gonna start playing,

910
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden that happens. I mean,

911
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: it's not fair. But here's Golden State again, and I

912
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: think Steph, well, Clay is thirty thirty or thirty one,

913
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: and that's where if I'm Golden State, then you have

914
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: to go, Okay, we might not be a great team

915
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: this year. We can be a competitive team this year,

916
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: but we just have to get ready for to Clay

917
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: to come back. And if it's a true achilles, you

918
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,959
Speaker 1: know it's more. It can be more than a year.

919
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: And now I can't rush him back at all after

920
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: having the knee surgery. And then if you have Achilles surgery.

921
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 1: I gotta be extra extra cautious with him, and then

922
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: what kind of player is he? You know, the mental

923
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: game that you play to get back is often overlooked

924
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: with these athletes. Physically you go through everything, it's mentally

925
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: when you make a cut, when you go up, when

926
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: you take a jumper, is somebody trying to slide their

927
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: foot underneath you? When you're going to the hoop? Are

928
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: you worried about somebody? Those are the things that play

929
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: mind games with you, and that'll be something that's another

930
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: extra hurdle for him to overcome. Thanks for listening to

931
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us

932
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,160
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933
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,120
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934
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,600
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935
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,239
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937
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: live on the Peacock Act. Prior to the start of

938
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: the show, Paully brought up that Justin Herbert got his

939
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: haircut and that's one of those that he looks like

940
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: he's maybe a sophomore in high school. I mean, he

941
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: had the flowing hair he had had some good moss

942
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: up there. But now this is serious business. Now, this

943
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: is like Tom Brady, I think his third year got

944
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: it all buzzed, you know, got to cut off there.

945
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, it's business now with Justin

946
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Herbert hits business already. Yes, but a lot of people

947
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: were upset yesterday. Chargers fans mess with a streak. You're

948
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: playing well, even though they're not winning a lot of games,

949
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: he's playing well. He had pretty good hair and he

950
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: cut it. Also he cut it kind of like too

951
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: short on the sides. Yeah, but he didn't cut it

952
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: the strength and conditioning coach did. Oh yeah, shouldn't he

953
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: be worried about, like weightlifting, because that was a punishment

954
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: like this, Like he didn't like make weight one day

955
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: or something and was like, all right, I gotta shave

956
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 1: your hair. Sorry. No, I don't know. I don't know

957
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 1: what the impetus was for all of a sudden, Maybe

958
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: he's throwing some weight around and then his hair is

959
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:32,959
Speaker 1: getting in his face, and then he says, I should

960
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: just cut this off, and then the strength and can

961
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,879
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't want some muscle bound guy

962
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: cutting my hair because he might not be able to.

963
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, his arms are so big, and who knows

964
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: how much dexterity and flexibility he has in there. I

965
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: eat somebody who does pilates, who's gonna be cutting my hair?

966
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: Not just flexibility, but they're actually flexing all the time

967
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 1: while they're trying to cut your hair. Well, they're they're

968
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: watching themselves cut you cut your hair, like flexing their

969
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: biceps and doing a little peck there. Yeah, yes, yes boy.

970
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: But justin Herbert, A lot of people think he looks

971
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 1: like all the guys from the movie Hoosiers. Yeah, or

972
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: maybe like you know, what's the name River Phoenix and

973
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: stand by me get a lot of that. Is that

974
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: a bad haircut or just a drastic haircut? I didn't

975
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: react as um strongly as you did. And I just

976
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: saw it and I said, all right, good. I was

977
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: conveying the feelings of the public. It was. It was

978
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: the story yesterday. I didn't really react too strongly to it.

979
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: I just went, oh, okay, got his haircut? Yeah club.

980
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: So on social media everyone sent up pictures of their

981
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: worst haircut. Actually, Minacheim started it, what era for you

982
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: guys would be your worst haircuts? Because man, I had

983
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: some bad ones. I don't know if I ever had

984
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: good ones, but I do know. Right the day before

985
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: picture day fifth grade, my mom sat me in a

986
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: chair in the kitchen and she would have that smock

987
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: that she'd put around you, and she gave me buzzcut

988
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: and I I was devastating. As luck would have it,

989
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: my mother just happened to send me a bunch of pictures.

990
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: Yeah uh, sometime in the last month or so, and

991
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 1: I put them in my bag as a you know what,

992
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,600
Speaker 1: one day I'll be able to make fun of myself

993
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: with this crap because these are terrible pictures. And then

994
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: it just so happened that my worst haircut era came out,

995
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: which this this is when I just started riding a skateboard.

996
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: I just got super into music. I think I was

997
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: in sixth grade maybe, which this isn't a great radio segment. Um, well,

998
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: if you want to get that on camera, if you're

999
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: watching on Peacock, maybe you could just put it up

1000
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: for weeks to take a picture of. I would say

1001
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,800
Speaker 1: that he looks like if if Tony Hawk and Richie

1002
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Cunningham had a baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Tony Hawk's hair.

1003
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: But the restaurant looks like, uh, yeah, you look like

1004
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Conan O'Brien in sixth grade. Yeah, it's terrible hair cut. Um.

1005
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: I believe it was called a surge the haircut might

1006
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 1: have it might have actually had a name. And it

1007
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: was kind of like shaved all around, but spiky on

1008
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: like the where your part is, and then long on

1009
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:14,799
Speaker 1: the side, and it eventually got really long. You look

1010
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: like you're in an Irish Flock of Seagulls tribute band.

1011
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: That is fair. I've got the lasers behind me. Not ironically,

1012
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,399
Speaker 1: by the way. That's when it was. At the time,

1013
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:24,800
Speaker 1: it was new and happening, and you had every school

1014
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: picture the lasers behind you. But maybe I'll like post

1015
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: a picture it on social media or something. It's a

1016
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 1: terrible haircut, though, And then I loved it. I thought

1017
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: it was the best. I I that's the problem when

1018
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: you think you look good, was the best, and then

1019
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,600
Speaker 1: you look back and go, what was I think? And

1020
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: you know what thought I was like the first kid

1021
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: in my class to get it, and a month later

1022
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: fifteen kids had it. Was it was it was. It

1023
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: was a hot thing at the time. Oh, I made

1024
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: a mess in my hair, you know. First of all,

1025
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: I got a widow's peak and then my mom shaves

1026
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: my head, and then I've just got this Eddie Munster

1027
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: widow's peak there, and it just wasn't good. It wasn't

1028
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: good at all. I didn't have a good picture. Yeah,

1029
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,920
Speaker 1: I just found my fourth grade picture and I've got

1030
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: a collar. It looks like a hand glidder coming out

1031
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 1: of my sweater. But what I remember the most about

1032
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 1: this picture I didn't have bad hair in third, fourth

1033
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: and fifth grade. I actually looked okay. But right I

1034
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: got a haircut the day before picture day, which was extreme,

1035
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: and I remember the barber and it wasn't in the

1036
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 1: usual barber because they were closed. My mom was like,

1037
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: we gotta get a haircut. It was a Sunday and

1038
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: the guy did the cut straight across bangs. It looks

1039
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: like I should have a chin strap on this. It's

1040
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: a total shell around my head. Yeah. Yeah, I got

1041
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: bad memories of that. I never took a good picture.

1042
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: Plus I had long hair, and I had but wasn't

1043
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: that cool back then? I thought it was, but it wasn't.

1044
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: I had it the entire college career. I had long

1045
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: hair down on my sholders. Not good. And then I

1046
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: would always go and why is it I don't have

1047
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: a girlfriend. And you know, I never looked in the mirror.

1048
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I got it all here since

1049
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: you humor. You know, I'm sixty three, I'm like one

1050
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,440
Speaker 1: seventy five, and I got acne and I got no money.

1051
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: Oh that's why I don't have a girlfriend. Other than that,

1052
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: I'm killing it, absolutely killing it. Thanks for listening to

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Speaker 1: The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to catch us

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Speaker 1: live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to

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Speaker 1: nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you can find

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Speaker 1: us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or stream us

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Speaker 1: live on the Peacock app.