1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Knowledge is really just the accumulation of all the information 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: that we receive in our mind. It is purely intellectual. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: It's regurgitation of information that we learn. But wisdom is 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: gathering the knowledge and then actually applying it. I'm Raley 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: Wukiah and on my podcast A Really Good Cry, we 6 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: embrace the messy and the beautiful, providing a space for 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: raw and fielded conversations that celebrate vulnerability and allow you 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: to tune in to learn, connect and find comfort together. 9 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome back to this week's episode of every 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: Really Good Cry. 11 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: I hope you've had such a wonderful week. 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 1: You know, earlier this week, I started to feel a 13 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: little bit overwhelmed with the amount of information that we 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: as humans have access to. I was trying to find 15 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: a course that I wanted to do, and I realized 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: there were just so many places that did the courses, 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: and then there was online information about it, and then 18 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: there was things on social media, and then it just 19 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: felt too overwhelming, and I decided that I didn't want 20 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: to commit to anything and don't want to apply for 21 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: anything because I. 22 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: Just know what to pick. 23 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: And honestly, at times, I think it is just way 24 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: too much information that we have access to, and the 25 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: problem is also that it conflicts so much. Right It's 26 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,160 Speaker 1: like one place will tell you to eat avocados, another 27 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: place will tell you that avocados are really bad for you. 28 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 2: And that's just the simplest things. 29 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 1: There is just so much information that is thrown at 30 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: us on a daily basis. You can literally scroll through 31 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: social media or speak to my new bff chat dpt 32 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: or as we in the office call her Gabby princessa Tiara, 33 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: that is actually what we call her, and you can 34 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: learn everything from how to hack a phone to how 35 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: to make a missionin star Worthy Salad, and literally a 36 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: couple of minutes, you can feel like an expert in 37 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. And so I feel like we 38 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: live in this world where it's never been easier to 39 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: feel like an expert that we don't actually know much about, 40 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: and to feel like an expert on something we haven't 41 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: really lived. 42 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 2: We end up. 43 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: Treating knowledge like a status symbol, something to collect or 44 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: flaun to attach to our identity. And I personally can 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: hold my hands up and say that has definitely been me. 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: But I was actually recently listening to this podcast where 47 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: they were discussing the difference between knowledge and wisdom, and 48 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: they said this one sentence that sparked my thought for 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: this entire episode, that knowledge puffs up and wisdom builds up. 50 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: And I sat with that sentence for a little bit, 51 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: and so many thoughts came to my mind, like how 52 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: this wellness and self help space teaches us so much, 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: and it's so beautiful that we have access to all 54 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: these quotes on a regular basis, Like my for you 55 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: page is often filled ninety percent with really great quotes 56 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: that make me think, or make me more thoughtful, or 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: make me more compassionate, or help me grow in some way. 58 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: And so we actually have the ability to look at 59 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: so much. But that learning can sometimes just become a crutch, 60 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: a distraction from actually doing the real work. So we 61 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: end up thinking we know better, but we don't end 62 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: up actually doing better. We end up constantly consuming, consuming, consuming, 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 1: which makes us think, oh, we're obviously learning, which means 64 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: we're obviously doing good by learning these things, but we're 65 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: really digesting and putting these things into practice into our life. 66 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: And then I started reflecting, and when I first started 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: creating content, and I entered this wellness space, and I 68 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: felt this intense pressure to know everything. 69 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 2: I didn't really do that well at school. 70 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: I got quiet catastrophic grades, and I really struggled with 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: conventional learning, and for a while I felt like I 72 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: really carried that deep insecurity about that. So once I 73 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: actually found a space that I was interested in and 74 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I was thriving in and that I loved to learn about, 75 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: I almost overcorrected. I consumed books and podcasts and workshops 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: and science and scripture not just to learn, but to 77 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: prove things, to prove that I was worthy of having 78 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: a voice, to prove that I deserve to be in 79 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: this space, to prove I guess also to myself that 80 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: I deserve to be here. And I wasn't learning to 81 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: live it. I was learning to show that I knew it. 82 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: And there's such different things from that time. I feel 83 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: like I've really had to work hard on not trying 84 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: to prove myself, not trying to prove my intelligence or 85 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: to keep trying to accumulate knowledge for the sake of show, 86 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: but instead learning it, to live it and share it 87 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: through who I am, not what I know. Knowledge is 88 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: really just the accumulation of all the information that we 89 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: receive in our mind. It is purely intellectual. It's regurgitation 90 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: of information that we learn. But wisdom is gathering the 91 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: knowledge and then actually applying it. Knowledge tells you what 92 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: to do, but wisdom is when you embody it through action, 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: through your relationships, and through your choices, especially in the 94 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: times when no one is watching. It was such a 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: great reminder to me that it is not about how 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: much that you've learnt in your life, but about what 97 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: you've actually lived. I think accumulating knowledge actually ends up 98 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 1: feeling the ego, because when you think about it being intellectual, 99 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: or when you feel like you know a lot, you 100 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: can end up feeling superior to people who don't. 101 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: Know that information. 102 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: It can create this I know more than other situation 103 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: in your own mind, and we as humans are always 104 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: trying to find reasons to superior. It's like my race 105 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: is better than yours, my religion's better than yours, what 106 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: my mind knows is better than your mind, and we 107 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: always try and create a hierarchy or a way of 108 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: feeling better about ourselves through something. And I think knowledge 109 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: and intellect ends up being one of those things. I 110 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: remember my teacher rather Thanswami once said this, and I 111 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: have shared this one line in pretty much every interview 112 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: that I've done because it really stuck with me. 113 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: He said that knowledge is useless unless it's. 114 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: Shared, and I'd actually add to that that not just 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: shared in words, but in how you live. And it's 116 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: funny because I was thinking about it, and everything that 117 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: we actually learn, we obviously are learning from other people 118 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: or a book or or even Instagram, and yet we 119 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: end up holding on to it or holding it within 120 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: us like it's our information. As soon as I've heard it, 121 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 1: I own it, like we created it. But actually, nothing 122 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: is new. Nothing is actually new in this world. Everything 123 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: already exists ideas, words, theories, whether it exists in the 124 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: depth sub scriptures that people don't know about yet or 125 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: in the mind of someone that's just been unspoken most things, 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: or I think everything has already existed, and so everything 127 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: we learn is learnt from somewhere, from nature, from our parents, 128 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: from teachers, from books, from songs. But yet this desire 129 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: to be the best or be original and unique and 130 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: things being mine take over the actual information and actually 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: using it rather than owning it. Really, when you let 132 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: knowledge flow through you and you become a vessel for 133 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: it rather than the owner of it, and you end 134 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: up pouring it into how you love, how you lead, 135 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: and how you show up. That is when it turns 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: into wisdom. It's actually just like in our body, when 137 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: food is undigested in the stomach it turns into tuxins, 138 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: or when thoughts are left too long in the mind 139 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: it can cause anxiety. And in the same way, knowledge 140 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: is not supposed to just sit in us and be 141 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 1: stagnant and be held captive within us, but it's meant 142 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: to be utilized as a tool to serve other people 143 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: and ourselves. Knowledge is reading them up, and wisdom is 144 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: walking in the path. Knowledge fills them, but wisdom transforms 145 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: the heart and it shows itself through action. I think 146 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: I've mentioned this before on the podcast, but I was 147 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: reading Ryan Holiday's book The Daily Stoic, and I've really 148 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: been enjoying seeing the similarities and comparisons actually to Vadic 149 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: literature and Stoicism. There is so much similarity between them, 150 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: and the Stoics actually speak about this too. Marcus Aurelius, 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: this Roman emperor and philosopher, asked the question from what 152 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: source do you spring? What power fuels you? And what 153 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: great question to reflect on a regular basis, because if 154 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: your fuel is ego, you're trying to prove, perform, accumulate, 155 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: then you might become clever, but you will not become wise. 156 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: Wisdom in both stoic and veadic traditions is action born 157 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: of self mastery. 158 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 2: It's not about what you say. It's about how you live. 159 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: It's not about having the right ideas, but it's about 160 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: knowing what to do with them and actually doing it. 161 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: You become what you live, not what you learn. And 162 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: I think that's really important because it is so easy 163 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: to feel like you know a lot just by. 164 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 2: What you read. 165 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: It's so easy to know that, oh, I should be 166 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: eating well, but am I actually going to put them 167 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: into practice by buying the right ingredients, by learning how 168 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: to cook, by meal planning and prepping my week, so 169 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: I end up eating those things. Such a simple thing 170 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: that it applies to but it applies like that in 171 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: every situation. It's like when they make the joke of 172 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: doctors knowing that smoking is bad for you, but they 173 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,520 Speaker 1: still smoke. You know, they see it the most that 174 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: it's not good for you, but you still do it. 175 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: So it's one thing about knowing all the things that 176 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: you should be doing or all the things that you 177 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: want to be doing that make you a better person, 178 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: or that make your physical body better or your mental 179 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: state better, or that are good for other people, or 180 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: how to be better in a relationship. You can read 181 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: all the books, but how are you putting it into practice? 182 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: So I started to asking myself a couple of questions 183 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: to really differentiate whether I'm living from a place of 184 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: wisdom or from a place of knowledge and ego. Those 185 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: questions are number one, am I trying to impress or express? 186 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 2: And two? 187 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: Am I using knowledge to connect or control? Those two 188 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: questions have helped me to always differentiate what I'm living from. 189 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: Am I living from a place of ego? Or am 190 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I living from a place of wisdom and wanting to share? 191 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: So the two were am I trying to impress or 192 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: to express? And am I using knowledge to connect or 193 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: to control? So simple, but you can learn so much 194 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: about yourself by answering those questions. And if you're like me, 195 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: and you realized, damn, I answered those questions and I'm 196 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: not in my wisdom era right now, but I really 197 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: want to be. I actually just started doing small things 198 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: to help me get there, one of which was picking 199 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: one teaching to live by this week. Less is more, digest, 200 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: absorb and churn it. So instead of saving like ten 201 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: podcasts or screenshots of quotes and reading all these things, 202 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: choose one idea, like I just did from the podcast 203 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: that I heard. I heard that one sentence and it 204 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: inspired this whole podcast because I really thought about it 205 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: for that full week. So find one thing, one idea 206 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: that resonated with you and discuss it. Think about how 207 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: you can apply it into your life, share it with others, 208 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: and put it into practice. An example of that is easy, 209 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: something like gratitude. We read quotes on gratitude all day 210 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: and hear about it, but actually writing down things you're 211 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: grateful for daily, or expressing gratitude to someone every single day, 212 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: that is putting it into practice. If it's something like 213 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: be present, how much do you'd hear be present? Just 214 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: be present in the moment, Well, try leaving your phone 215 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: in another room during a meal, or make eye contact 216 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: when you're speaking to someone. Think about how you can 217 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: take that information and make it practical in your life 218 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: and put it into practice. Are Vada and Vedic text 219 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: actually emphasize the value of silence and Smariner reflection, and 220 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: so after learning something new, just taking him a five 221 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: minutes of quiet to ask how does this change me? 222 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: How can I integrate this into my life? And where 223 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 1: does it apply in my life? Just simply taking a 224 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: moment to pause after hearing something or reading something can 225 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: make such a difference. I've learned to do that with 226 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: my friends lately, when we're having a conversation and so 227 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: much comes out of them, and I take a moment 228 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: to reflect and write down what are the things that 229 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: I learned in that conversation, What were the things that 230 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: I feel I want to expand on or explore, What 231 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: were the things that make me feel uncomfortable? And why 232 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: really exploring the conversation you're having rather than just being 233 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: half present and forgetting them the moment you leave them. 234 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: There's so much we can learn if you're just there. 235 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: There's so much you can learn if you're just noticing, 236 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: and especially if you're noticing to learn, it's really different 237 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: from being present just to hear when you're there to 238 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: actually learn from a situation. When I go up for 239 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: a walk, okay, if I'm trying to really be present 240 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: and learn from nature. I'll see so much more. My 241 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: eyes will notice so much more. But if I'm out 242 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: there just to enjoy, I probably won't. I've probably just 243 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: wander through. But this is really nice. But when you're 244 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: choosing to see the world from a point of learning 245 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: and digesting and processing, you just see the world so differently. Now, 246 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 1: I know this actually feels like such a small topic, 247 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: but at the same time, it really does change the 248 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: way that we live life and experience it. We can 249 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: go our whole lives not really living life, and I 250 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: don't really want that for us. To be honest, this 251 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: is what this podcast is about. It's trying to help 252 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: us see the world in a different way, help us 253 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:17,079 Speaker 1: to create these habits and rituals and practices that actually 254 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: help us grow into better people, into the people that 255 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: we want to be. So these small mind shifts, even 256 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: though they seem extremely small, they're doing the needful and 257 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: helping us to grow not just for ourselves but for 258 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: the people around us too, and to just be living 259 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: more authentically, which is what I think we all want 260 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: to be doing in our life. 261 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: So I hope this conversation was useful. 262 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: I hope these random reflections that I had from that 263 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: one sentence ends up being beneficial to your ears and 264 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: to your heart too, And I hope that you put 265 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: these things into practice. Read to quote, think about how 266 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: you can apply it, and sending us so much love 267 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: for this week. 268 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 2: Hope it's more intentional and. 269 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: You feel more present and you learn so much more 270 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: just by changing the way that you're viewing the world. 271 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening and sending up so much love.