1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 2: Time now for Fantasy Football Weekly from iHeartRadio, your weekly 3 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 2: source for the nation's best fantasy football advice, speculation, and 4 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: whatever stupid stuff they decided to drop into the show. Now, 5 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 2: here's your host, Paul Chargian. 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Fantasy Football Weekly. I'm Paul Jarchie 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: and my co host is Thor Nice from back to 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: back shows. Yeah, yeah, baby, thank you for taking a 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: break from college football twenty four. 10 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: It's obsessive, isn't it. 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to break away just for a bit, 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 4: just so we can talk about some some deep, deep, 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 4: deep deep sleepers here for fantasy football. 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the main topic today. Last week we 15 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: gave you just regular deep sleepers, guys that are being 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: drafted in you know, like the twenties and thirties and 17 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: forties of Dynasty Rookie Drive. Now we're gonna talk about 18 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: guys who are going basically undrafted in fantasy in dynasty drafts. 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: This is the sicko episode of Fantasy Football. 20 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: That's really is we're talking to We're talking to you 21 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: or and four. I mean, it's this they're very you're 22 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: gonna give us guys. I don't know any of these guys, 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: and I'm not embarrassed to say that. I mean, I 24 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: follow this awfully closely. These are guys I don't know 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: and I haven't spent time with. And these are also 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: guys who are undrafted in the NFL draft. 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 4: YEP. 28 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: So now we're really we're really diving deep onto the 29 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: stuff that only somebody like Thorne Eistrom knows. 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: We sure are, but people out there keep in mind, 31 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 4: twenty to twenty five percent every single season in the 32 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 4: NFL percentage of snaps are given to undrafted players. The 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 4: undrafted free ency gives the NFL more value than the 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: sixth and seventh round combined, and you can toss a 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 4: lot of the fifth round in there as well. And 36 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 4: we also get u fantasy contributors that were undrafted free agents, 37 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: sometimes even earlier on in their career. But we're going 38 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 4: to try to shoot the moon here and unearth a 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 4: couple guys or points you to folks out there, points 40 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 4: you with guys who are deeper dynasty formats could end 41 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 4: up providing you value. 42 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: And once we've given out these super deep sleepers, I 43 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: want you to hit on some of the more household 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: name rookies that you do not like, that you think 45 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: are being overdrafted based on their ADP. So these are 46 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: people who the listeners will know and we can help 47 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: them avoid it, both in redraft. 48 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 3: And in the Dynasty. 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 4: Let's do it. 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 3: Okay, sounds great. 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: By the way, you bought. 52 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: A PS five just to play one game? 53 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 4: Of course, Yeah, it's it's the only one that matter. 54 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: Your investment into this game. Yes, is the cost of 55 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: the console like four dollars. I don't know if you 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: bought another controller or not. 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,399 Speaker 3: They're not cheap. That's like seventy bucks. Then you got 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 3: to buy the game and you. 59 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Got the early release edition of the game, so that 60 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: was like seventy bucks. 61 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: I mean, so you're all you're in on this one game, 62 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 3: be like five hundred dollars. 63 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 4: The thing is is EA could attacked another zero onto 64 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: the price. Yeah, and it coincided with JJ McCarthy playing 65 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: for the Viking. So I bought Madden for the first time, and. 66 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 3: Like, how about that? Alright, you got you got the 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 3: two pack exactly. Yeah, how about that? 68 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 4: Got to build him up into a Super Bowl winner. 69 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Somebody's got to wait my whole life for that man. 70 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: All right, let's let's go with your first of the 71 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: deep sleepers to talk about running back Blake Watson currently 72 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: going off the board at Dynasty rookie draft. 73 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: Spot sixty five. 74 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 3: Who is he and where does he play? 75 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: Blake Watson running back for the Broncos. A guy who 76 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: his entire career it was Starcross and Sink Benton. He 77 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: was a wide receiver earlier in his career at Old Dominion, 78 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 4: probably miscast there, did end up shifting two running back, 79 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: That's where he ended up taking off. But Old Dominion 80 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 4: was one of the few programs in the NCAA that 81 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: canceled their twenty twenty season due to covid. Okay, because 82 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 4: of that and because of the position change, he ends 83 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: up starting later where we starts to jump up and 84 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 4: start to produce there. But once he got to running back, 85 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 4: that's exactly what he did. Was impressive at Old Dominion 86 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: as a running back and certainly brings the receiving chops 87 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 4: as well, and then last season ends up transferring up 88 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 4: to Memphis, one of our better G five programs, proved 89 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 4: the concept again had an enormous season, but the NFL, 90 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: perhaps because of this ended up not inviting him to 91 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: the combine, which destroyed his chances of getting drafted. I 92 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 4: thought Blake Watson was probably the biggest snub of anyone there, 93 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 4: and there was running backs who got drafted that are 94 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 4: not as good as Blake Watson. Then you think about 95 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 4: the situation he's in now with Denver. Last week's episode, 96 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 4: we talked about Odrick estime with regards to this, just 97 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 4: because of the room that's there and Sean Payton's seeming 98 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 4: to not like Javonte Williams, So there's gonna be opportunities 99 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 4: even for running backs beyond Julia McLaughlin a guy that 100 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: we both like. Blake Watson's a guy to keep an 101 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 4: eye on. And with Sean Payton, you know Sean Payton. 102 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 4: I don't love Sean Payton, but as you know some 103 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: of the history with Minnesota and what have you. But 104 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 4: one thing you can say for him, he is going 105 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 4: to play the best prospect, the best player on his 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 4: team at any given position, and he doesn't care about 107 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 4: the undrafted. Thing is Julia McLaughlin could tell you, yeah, 108 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 4: Blake Watson could compete there very early on and end 109 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 4: up getting on the field. But even if he's on 110 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 4: practice squad year one, I think he's a guy twenty 111 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 4: twenty five to take. 112 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: A look at all, right, So that's a long term 113 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: sleeper potentially in Denver. If Williams doesn't turn doesn't play 114 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: a lot better than last year, that he may not 115 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: be on the roster next season. It wouldn't surprise me. 116 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 4: That's it. 117 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 1: Let's go to running back Cody Schrader or Schrader. Cody 118 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: Schrader currently going completely undrafted in fantasy leagues. He doesn't 119 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: even have an ADP that appears. Who is he and 120 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: where does he play? 121 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 4: So Schrader comes out of Missouri, where last year he 122 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 4: blew up. The production went way up as Missouri as 123 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: a team ended up making a BCS ball game and 124 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: beat in Ohio State, and Trader was extremely impressive in 125 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 4: that game. He also had an impressive pre draft process 126 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: as far as at the All Star events, showed at 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl that he can catch the ball. Was 128 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 4: not used as much with that in the Missouri offense 129 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: because they have Luther Burden, the third who next year 130 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: is going to be a top ten pick, and a 131 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 4: couple other stud receivers there as well, so they weren't 132 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 4: thrown as much to the running back, but Schrader proved 133 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: that he could do that. Here's the thing with Schrader 134 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 4: in his current situation with the San Francisco forty nine ers. 135 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 4: Of course you have Christian McCaffrey, but thinking about the 136 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 4: plans behind McCaffrey going forward, Jordan Mason and Elijah Mitchell 137 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 4: are both free agents after this coming season. Patrick Taylor 138 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 4: has no guaranteed money. So that's three of the running 139 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 4: backs on the roster. The other two are Schrader and 140 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 4: then Isaac Garndo, who the forty nine Ers took basically 141 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 4: based on his measurables. Girndo's a big guy, runs fast. 142 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 4: He doesn't play with the agility that he tested with, 143 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 4: but he ended up testing like a banshee, you know. 144 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 4: Including that. But all Schrader has to do to get 145 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 4: behind mccaffre and the pecking order going forward is to 146 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 4: bypass Girndo this year. I think that there's a shot 147 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: of that. Girndo reminds me a ton of this is 148 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,119 Speaker 4: going to be a blast from the pass for people 149 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 4: out there. You remember Kylen Bilage, Oh yeah, yeah, of course, 150 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 4: Kylen Blage had all the physical ability in the world, 151 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 4: and he could also catch the ball. But as I 152 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: said about him coming out in his draft class, he 153 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 4: ran as though he was mister Magoo, or ran like 154 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: he had drunk goggles on. You constantly see him running 155 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 4: into the back guys of his offensive lineman or running 156 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: without tempo. Think about the system that they have in 157 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 4: San Francisco, the zone blocking. You have to read the blocks, 158 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 4: you have to run with tempo and patients behind them, 159 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 4: and then when you get your moment, you have to 160 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 4: seize that with the cut, get into the hole, and 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: then get up field. Schrader is awesome at running the concepts, 162 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: the patients, the field, the vision. Some of these things 163 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 4: that we couldn't test for at the combine didn't test 164 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 4: as athletic two hundred two pounds thirty second percentile athlete. Obviously, 165 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 4: that's why Schrader did not get drafted despite the good 166 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three season that he had. But here's the 167 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 4: thing Schrader played in his own heavy scheme at Missouri 168 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 4: that accentuated that vision, tempo, and his one cut oomph. 169 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 4: He can run through arm tackles and off angle attempts 170 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 4: and again all he has to do is be better 171 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 4: than Gorenda. Grendo is the boomer Bus guy. Strader way 172 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 4: lower ceiling, but very very reliable in that Shanahan system. 173 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 4: I think he's a guy that could potentially surprise. Have 174 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 4: you been breaking down Holy Cross football a little bit? 175 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 4: A little bit Jalen Cocher, Yeah, there's a little bit 176 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 4: of steam here. He's the only guy in this list 177 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 4: that I had some familiarity with prior. He lands in 178 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,679 Speaker 4: a favorable spot in Carolina wide receiver where Adam Thielen 179 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 4: is at the end of a really nice career. Jalen 180 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 4: Coker might be in a spot by this time next year, 181 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: potentially a starter. Keep your eye on Jalen Coker in 182 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 4: camp if he impresses and ends up making that roster. 183 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 4: He's a guy who could get onto the field pretty quickly. 184 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: The depth chart behind the starters there Jonathan Mingo, who 185 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 4: is a disappointment as a rookie. He's wide receiver four, 186 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 4: and then it's just pure flotsam, and you could probably 187 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 4: even toss Mingo in with the flatsam. As far as 188 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 4: Coker goes eighty fifth percentile athlete at six one and 189 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 4: a half two hundred and eight pounds. I comped him 190 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 4: to David Terrell, the old Michigan wide receiver. 191 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we thought we thought he was going to 192 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: be really good. Went to the Bears early, yes, and 193 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: never really panned out. 194 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 4: Never really got there. But you know, in another world 195 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: where another reality where maybe. 196 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: Tria the Bears have a quarterback who can pass that 197 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 1: as well. 198 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, but where he's not miscast Terrell as a guy 199 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 4: who had to be your wide receiver, one where he 200 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 4: could have been a wide receiver, two possession guy. I 201 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 4: think that would have behooved him a lot better. That's 202 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 4: what I see of Jalen Coker. A guy that's going 203 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 4: to be a solid possession receiver. The thing he lacks 204 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: is the downtown wheels, but he is very springy and explosive. 205 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: Get this, So Coker ran in the mid to higher 206 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: four fives, but he posted the same ten yard split 207 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: on that run as Ady Mitchell did on his running 208 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 4: in the four threes. Okay, so Coker gets off the 209 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 4: line very fast. He obviously has strength as well. And 210 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 4: then the thing I love most about him is his 211 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 4: ball skills. He doesn't drop anything. He can catch the 212 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 4: ball outside of his frame, catch it in congested quarters. 213 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 4: The other really cool thing that I grab from his tape. 214 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: Not many receivers in this class. How many collegiate receivers 215 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 4: have that late hands thing. Yeah, they wait until the 216 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 4: ball is right there descending over the defensive back shoulder 217 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 4: before they. 218 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: Put the hands off and extend the hands. 219 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 4: So the defensive back on the ball exactly, they can't 220 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 4: get their head around. Jalen Coker has the late hands thing. 221 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 4: So you think about the big catch radius, the sure hands, 222 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: and that late hand thing. With the guy who can 223 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 4: get off the line and accelerate out with that explosion, 224 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 4: I think he could challenge Jonathan Mingo pretty quick for 225 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 4: that wide receiver four role. And I think he is 226 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 4: going to make the Panthers roster. 227 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: All right, I like it. 228 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: He's currently going off the board in rookie Dynasty drafts 229 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: to pick seventy three. All right, this guy's going off 230 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the board pick sixty nine. 231 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: Fight end? 232 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 4: Is it? Dallen Hulker, Yes, all. 233 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,359 Speaker 3: Right, incredible. 234 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 4: Hulker like it? 235 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 3: Incredible. 236 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: Hulker, all right, where did he play and where is 237 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: he now? 238 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: Where was it? 239 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: Where was he playing college? 240 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,439 Speaker 4: He played at Colorado State In college six three and 241 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: a half two forty one sixty first percentile athlete. Colker 242 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 4: got a lion share and enormous share of the Colorado 243 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 4: State offense. People go with Trey McBride, you know, for 244 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 4: years they've done this with the pass catching tight ends. 245 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 4: Holker was another guy off off that sort of conveyor belt. 246 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 4: He's on the smaller side, but you're looking at him 247 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: as more of the h back move kind of a 248 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 4: guy in your offense. You can play him in the slot, 249 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 4: you can move him around, you can put him in 250 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 4: the backfield if you want. He is smaller, yes, I'll 251 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 4: get the nagatives out of the way for a smaller 252 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: lack speed four seven eight and not terribly explosive. Was 253 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 4: twenty fourth percentile ten yard split. He was also one 254 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: of the classes oldest players, so maybe the ceiling a 255 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: little a little bit lower, but he's a good route runner, 256 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: uh snap maybe not snapping pizzazz, but he augments his 257 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 4: tempo and he has a grab bag of upper body 258 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 4: deeks and stuff he does to keep people off of 259 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 4: his scent. He's also shifty. He is as shifty as 260 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: he is not fast. Ninety fourth percentile three cone eighty 261 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 4: third percentile short shuttle these things. When he caught the 262 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 4: ball in the Mountain West, he turned into a broken 263 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 4: tackle machine. He's very fluid converting from a pass catcher 264 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: into a runner, doesn't lose much momentum with that, and 265 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 4: gets a field and then he can set people up 266 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 4: to make them miss and run through off angle attempts. 267 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 4: Number two in this tight end class with fifteen broken 268 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 4: tackles force last year. The one other thing I wanted 269 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 4: to mention about him. Last week we were talking about 270 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 4: Roman Wilson, a guy with a smaller frame but huge hands. 271 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 4: Holker is another guy who has a genetic quirk that 272 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: wasn't talked about enough that really helps his game and 273 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: makes him sort of deceiving as a pass catcher. He 274 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 4: had the longest arms in this entire tight end class 275 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: outside of Brevin span Ford, who is essentially a third 276 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: offensive tackle. At six seven, two sixty. Those were the 277 00:12:57,240 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 4: two longest arms of any tight end in this class. 278 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: Alan Holker again six three and a half two forty. 279 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 4: He has these really long, long arms and then he 280 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 4: goes out and meets the ball at its at its 281 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 4: earliest point. He can catch balls outside of his frame 282 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 4: which team drafted him, he was who with Hulk Holger? Yeah, 283 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 4: under at the free agent with the Saints. 284 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 3: Saints. 285 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and if. 286 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: You said that, somehow I missed it. 287 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 4: Okay, sets up a really good scenario for him. Juwan 288 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 4: Johnson recently had foot surgery. We don't exactly know when 289 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: he's gonna come back. The team has been a bit 290 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 4: tepid when they're explaining its timeline. Yeah, a bit a 291 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: bit vague. Yeah, they're hoping he's back by the end 292 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 4: of camp and then the regular season. It didn't sound 293 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 4: super positive, you know, confident to me when when when 294 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: I was listening to it, I think you could confidently 295 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 4: say that Juwan Johnson's availability for camp is now an 296 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 4: open question. Look at the depth behind there they have. 297 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: The Saints have nothing, So I think Hulker has a 298 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 4: real I mean, sorry Taysom Hill and but like, wow. 299 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 3: He's not a true tight end. 300 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, exact obviously, Yeah, but Holker for an offense that 301 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: might be looking to chip away with some of the 302 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 4: efficiency in the passing game, that is what Hulker provides 303 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 4: you short and intermediate. He is going to catch the ball, 304 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 4: He's going to extend out and then he can break 305 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 4: some tackles. I camped him coming out to both Skafeye 306 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 4: You remember him back, Yeah, yeah, yeah, a guy who 307 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 4: you could maybe catch forty to fifty balls at his peak. 308 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 4: They're not going to be way down the field, but 309 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 4: he can be an efficiency guy, not drop the ball, 310 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: and then can break some tackles for you moving around 311 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 4: the formation. 312 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: The incredible hulkar Yes, all right with the Saints. Maybe 313 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: there's some opportunity there going very very late in fantasy 314 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: rookie drafts deep leagues. 315 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 3: Maybe he makes sense. Let's take a break when we 316 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: come back, Let's talk about some of the rookies. 317 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: We know that our splashy rookies that are being drafted 318 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: in the first two rounds of fantasy rookie drafts that 319 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: you don't like and you're recommending people stay away from. 320 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: Stay tuned more Thorn Neistrom coming up on Fantasy Football Weekly. 321 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: This is the easiest Fantasy football weeks they have ever 322 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: recorded for me personally, Thor Yeah, you know you're talking 323 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: my guys. I don't know who they are, I don't 324 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: know where they got drafted. I'm just kicking back and learning. 325 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: Like our listeners now, We're going to talk about three 326 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: bust candidates that are going in the first two rounds 327 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: of fantasy drafts, one of them going at pick number six. 328 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: And you don't like it, tell people who it is, 329 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 1: Savior Worthy? 330 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 3: Oh boy, all right? 331 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: People want Patrick, they want the next Patrick Mahomes, Tyreek Hill. 332 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: This isn't gonna be it, at least. 333 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: For me, not as a rookie. I think he starts 334 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 4: off slower and that I was really surprised when I 335 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: saw the adp on Xavier Worthy. Think there's two things 336 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 4: people need to keep in mind here. Number one, Xavior Worthy. 337 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 4: Of course, he broke the comebine record for forty and 338 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 4: he also creates separation where I think it could be 339 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 4: an issue initially with him and Pat Mahomes trusting him 340 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 4: and staying on the field all the time. The drop 341 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 4: issue with Xavier Worthy. Yeah, he's got a real issue 342 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 4: with the drop seas and that was even catching the 343 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 4: ball in the intermediate ranger, even short. Sometimes sometimes he 344 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 4: was wide open, the ball would just clank off his hands. 345 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 4: He doesn't have a very good catch radius as well, 346 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 4: so you have to fit that thing in there, and 347 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 4: then he's not money in the bank. With it and 348 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 4: not as good down the field as you would think 349 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 4: for a guy of his speed, with that speed, yeh, 350 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 4: Texas didn't use him as much with that Right now, 351 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 4: Worthy being projected as a starter in the offense where 352 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 4: it has Hollywood Brown and Raschie Rice as well Sky 353 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 4: Moore around there as well. But the skill sets of 354 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 4: Xavier Worthy and Hollywood Brown are super superfluous. That was 355 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 4: one guy that Xavier Worthy was comped to ubiquitously come 356 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 4: in during the pre draft process was Hollywood Brown. Hollywood 357 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 4: Brown right now is way more reliable Xavier Worthy, certainly 358 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 4: as a route runner, but also the hands as well. 359 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: Pat Mahomes is gonna trust him more, and then the 360 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 4: other concepts. You're going down the field, you're posting up 361 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 4: Rashi Rice for a lot of that stuff, and then 362 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: of course you have the pass catching vacuum there as 363 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 4: well at tight end and Travis Kelsey. I don't know 364 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 4: what Worthy what about that profile justifies him being taken 365 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 4: as high as he is right now outside of people 366 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 4: haven't watched his run during the NFL combine, but I 367 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 4: don't think he starts super fast as a rookie. 368 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: You know, there's a point at which that track star 369 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: speed just never seems to translate in the NFL. John Ross, 370 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: you know where if most of what you have done 371 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: is just been blowing by defenders by running straight, that 372 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 1: ain't gonna work in the NFL. And I my worry, 373 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm I worry unworthy is what was he a four 374 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: to three? What was his speed? 375 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 4: Low? Four? Two? Four? Two? Yeah? Right, four right? Yeah? 376 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: So I mean you And that's not to say that 377 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: he'll never catch, you know, long bombs or whatever, but 378 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: you won't know when they're coming. And it just that's 379 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 1: that's that's not a sustainable skill set in the NFL. 380 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 3: You have to be able to do all the other. 381 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: Stuff that the wide receiver position demands, and typically these 382 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: tracks Olympic track star speed guys don't have the rest 383 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: of the skill set. 384 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 4: There's a lot of guys, if you're just talking twenty 385 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: twenty four, that I would rather draft rookie at the 386 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 4: same position than than the going forward. If he cleans 387 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 4: up those drops, I think then you're you're cooking with 388 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 4: gas there. But I think that that's down the road 389 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 4: and probably in a reality where Hollywood Brown is no 390 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 4: longer on the team. 391 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: Which is He's only on a one year deal, so 392 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, Brown is likely somewhere else next year. 393 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so that's where I'm I would be more 394 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,679 Speaker 4: valuing Worthy would be a dynasty concept as opposed to 395 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 4: the red draft year one. I just don't think he 396 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 4: is going to meet match expectations. 397 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 3: To go to wide receiver a d Mitchell. 398 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Draft in the second round by the Colts, another fast, 399 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: another speed guy, a d Mitchell. I think they, you know, 400 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,199 Speaker 1: they've got Pittman, who's got you know, he gives you 401 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: the big body, right and you know, but I think 402 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 1: they what that offense lacked was somebody who can get 403 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: under an Anthony richardson long ball. 404 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: Yes, and I do think that that is the one 405 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 4: thing that Mitchell provides. He has the four to three speed, 406 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 4: six a little over six to two hundred five pounds and 407 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 4: was a ninety nine point eight percentile athlete. 408 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: That's almost at John hus Smith level, almost exactly. 409 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 4: But the problem with Mitchell is the physical talent. It 410 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: was never matched by his production in college. You go 411 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 4: back to his time at Georgia, Kirby Smart and crew, 412 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: who are the best that we have in the spot 413 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 4: down there, They did not seem concerned when Adi Mitchell 414 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: walked out the door. Then he signs with Texas last season. 415 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 4: People need to keep in mind he had a very 416 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 4: advantageous situation there with Quinn yew Er is a guy 417 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 4: who can get the ball downfield, an NFL caliber pocket passer. 418 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 4: Then you had Xavier Worthy on the other side. They 419 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 4: had the awesome run game with Jonathan Brooks. It was 420 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: difficult for the defense to delineate more coverage resources to 421 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 4: Ady Mitchell and always keep a guy over the top. 422 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 4: And yet he only had the numbers that he had. 423 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: He ended up going off, I believe, in three games, 424 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 4: but he finished with thirty five or fewer receiving yards 425 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 4: in half of Texas's games. Seven of the fourteen games 426 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 4: under thirty five receiving yards. I'm sorry he only went 427 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,120 Speaker 4: off twice. He had over one hundred and forty yards twice. 428 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 4: And that's because his game, again, it's the long ball. Yeah, 429 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 4: that's all it is. He is a Dave Kingman three 430 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 4: true out. He's either hitting the dinger or he's striking out. 431 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 4: He's going back to the bench. And the other thing 432 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: that's frustrating about Ady Mitchell is he doesn't on the 433 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 4: concepts where it's not specifically called for him. You would 434 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 4: see this sometime on his film where the ball is 435 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: going the other way. Yeah, he'd loaf off the line. 436 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 4: I don't know how that's going to ingratiate itself there. 437 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 4: What you're bringing him in for is to concern the 438 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 4: defense on the other side. Hopefully bring the safeties back 439 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 4: a little bit, give more spacing for Michael Pittman and 440 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 4: downs there in the intermediate range. But expecting more than 441 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: the occasional dinger out of Ady Mitchell. I think is 442 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 4: a fool's Aaron. This is a guy who was disappointed 443 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: both the past two schools he went to. 444 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: And the thing about these home run guys. And this 445 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: might be true Xavier Worthy too, although I like Xavier 446 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Worthy a lot more than Adie Mitchell. Good luck Guesson 447 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: the game. When that deep ball is going to connect, 448 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: that's it. And when it doesn't, you've got one catch 449 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: for fourteen yards and he's murdering He's murdering your weak 450 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: single handedly. 451 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: For me, these kind of guys that exist in this 452 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: final they're not guys that you want to target in 453 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 4: fantasy drafts. They're guys that you want to monitor week 454 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 4: tweek in DFS. 455 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 3: Yes, that's where it's your. 456 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: Advantageous you know, those bigger tournaments, that's where you want 457 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 4: to potentially give a shot to him, because, yeah, he 458 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 4: can go off if he gets two or three of those. 459 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 4: In those couple games last year where Ady Mitchell went 460 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 4: off that I was just talking about, he averaged sixteen 461 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 4: point six yards per catch. That's it. If he if 462 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 4: if he's got the dingers there, he's gonna put up 463 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 4: numbers in that one particular game, but it's gonna come 464 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 4: off with three catches. Outside of that, you got to 465 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 4: look elsewhere for your efficiency, and certainly the Colts will. 466 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: All right, So Xavier worthy or nervous about Aidy Mitchell 467 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: were worried about? Sorry, Texas fans, Yeah, no kidding, dam right. Yeah. 468 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Then we sort of tipped our hand last week on 469 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: this guy. The Patriots drafted two wide receivers. You liked 470 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: Javon Baker went in the fourth round. You're not as 471 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: keen on Jalen Polk, who went in the second round, 472 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: and it's currently going off at pick twenty two in 473 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: fantasy drafts. 474 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: Jalen Pol rookie rookie dynas in rookie drafts. Yeah, Jalen 475 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 4: Polk owes money to Jalen McMillan, who was the clear 476 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 4: wide receiver TOWO on Washington team until he got injured 477 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: last September. That's when Jalen Polk ended up starting to 478 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 4: get some targets and when he rose up to round 479 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: two right when Jalen McMillan came back at the end 480 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: of that season, as Washington was surging towards playing in 481 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: the National title, Jalen Polk summarily went back onto a 482 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 4: milk carton whenever McMillan was there. Polk was by far 483 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,479 Speaker 4: like with distance between it wide receiver three on that team, 484 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: but he ends up going a round and a half 485 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 4: ahead of Jalen McMillan, who I believe is the better 486 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 4: football player over the last There was twenty games the 487 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: last two seasons at Washington, one of the better offenses. 488 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 4: We had one of the better offensive play callers we 489 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: had in Kaylen Debor, who got the Alabama job after 490 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: the season. In twenty games last few years, when Jalen 491 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: McMillan and Jalen Polk completed full games together at Washington, 492 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 4: McMillan had one hundred and twenty four catches, sixteen hundred 493 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: and fifty seven yards, fourteen touchdowns. Polk only had sixty 494 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 4: eight catches twelve hundred and ten and nine. There was 495 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 4: games late in the season again when when McMillan came back, 496 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: where Polk didn't do anything. He's being looked at as 497 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: a potential outside guy at New England. I don't think 498 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: he is an outside guy. I don't think he can 499 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: create the separation. He was in the most advantageous situation 500 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 4: of any receiver in college football last year. We're on 501 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: the other side of the field. You have to double 502 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: Rome every single time, and then you have an NFL 503 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 4: caliber slot who ends up going in Round three in McMillan. 504 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 4: Then you have a top ten quarterback, and you have 505 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: potentially the sport's best play caller in Kaylen de Borg. 506 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 4: Polk was only drawing the cornerback two on the other 507 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 4: team and never had the extra coverage sources over there, 508 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 4: so we had to beat two guys to get the ball. 509 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: A lot of free releases for him as well. The 510 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 4: guy that they were pressing was Roma Dunese. Off the line, 511 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 4: he got a lot of easy looks for me. He's 512 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 4: more of the thing I like about Polk. I know 513 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 4: I said a lot of negative things. He has very 514 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: good hands, and what I always viewed him as was 515 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: a taller slot in the NFL. That's an efficiency guy. 516 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 4: That's what I think his ultimate destiny is. One problem 517 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: here is Drake May. We talked about this last week. 518 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 4: He loves to go bombs away. Jalen Polk is not 519 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: gonna be your bombs away guy. And then the constitution 520 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 4: of New England's roster. They have slot receivers. 521 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's one thing. One thing they got everywhere. 522 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so how will that play out? Are you 523 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 4: gonna take Pop Douglas off the field? You're gonna force 524 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 4: Jalen Polpe to be an outside receiver where he can 525 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: start getting jammed by some of these better NFL cornerbacks. 526 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 4: He was overdrafted and uh, he's being overdrafted in fantasy 527 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 4: right now. 528 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: Yeah. I kind of like I kind of like the 529 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: Mario Douglas. 530 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: You know, he's not bad, He's not a little bad. 531 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: He's not a bad little player. The Liberty kid either. 532 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 4: I like him. 533 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: They know they've got kJ Osborne also primarily a slot guy. 534 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm feeling you on that. It doesn't feel 535 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: like a recipe for fantasy success. 536 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 3: With Jalen Pole. 537 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: No, but maybe for Javon Baker, but you know what 538 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,159 Speaker 1: who you know, and hopefully for Javon Baker. If you 539 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: heard last week's show and if you didn't go go 540 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: check that out. 541 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 4: Man. 542 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: I like Drake May. I'm convinced Drake May. You know, 543 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,159 Speaker 1: it might not all come together this year. The receiving 544 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 1: I don't think the receiving talent is is quite where 545 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: we want it to be yet. But I'm really optimistic 546 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: that with the right with the right coaching, right opportunity, 547 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: Drake May is gonna be good. 548 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 4: For fantasy purposes. I would with May year one let 549 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 4: someone else have them. Dynasty Leagues is where you look 550 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 4: at that. I think year one they need to work 551 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 4: through some things with Drake May. But he has that 552 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 4: absolute howitzer, a lot of creativity, like the way he 553 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 4: navigates the pocket. But my favorite thing about his film, 554 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 4: I love it he's in shotgun and then he does 555 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 4: the bicycle backwards when he gets them up, so he 556 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 4: gets another half second or flit second to see the 557 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 4: whole field, whereas usually the quarterback get. I mean, this 558 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 4: is a very subtle thing, but usually the quarterback gets 559 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 4: it and immediately squares the one side. But Drake may 560 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: does the bicycle thing. Keep keep all the receivers out there, 561 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 4: the receiving court right now and the rest of the 562 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 4: supporting caster in New England, of course not very good. 563 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 4: But once they're able to flesh that out and get 564 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: sort of the basketball team of receivers where we have 565 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 4: this guy who can do this, this guy who can 566 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 4: do that. We got the efficiency guy. I think that's 567 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: where potentially Drake may could take off down the line. 568 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 4: Has one of the better arms we see come out 569 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 4: last past couple classes. 570 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: He had to do so much at North Carolina. I 571 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: mean he had to be the entire offense. The receivers 572 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: weren't very good, the offensive line wasn't very good. He 573 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: had to be creative, he had to you know. 574 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 4: He just I was just and last year the offensive coordinator, 575 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: there is a dope really like Yeah, the year before 576 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 4: Drake may was playing with Phil Longo, one of the 577 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 4: better offensive coordinators we have, and allowed Drake Maye to 578 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 4: throw the ball down the field and that's where he 579 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 4: was just singing people. This year this past year in 580 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 4: twenty twenty three, they brought in a dopey guy. There 581 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 4: was the one thing you could say for it is 582 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 4: dopey guys, a little bit dopey. I'm sorry if he's listening. 583 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 4: But there was some more NFL throws there, as far 584 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 4: as like this stuff over the middle, driving the ball 585 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: in before the descending defender could get there. Some more 586 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 4: timing stuff, so we got to see some more of that, 587 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 4: but overall was not the most advantageous system certainly did 588 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 4: not give him lay up looks. And then to your 589 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 4: point about the receiving corps, they did have a solid 590 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 4: running back, the offensive line wasn't very good, and the 591 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: receiving corps had fallen off a cliff, particularly because they 592 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: thought that tes Walker was going to be their wide receiver, 593 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 4: one guy who had transferred up from Kent State the 594 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 4: NCAA and their last act of being punitive Walker, No 595 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 4: you're not playing. This is your second transfer and tes 596 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: Walker and UNC spent the first six weeks of the 597 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 4: season fighting the NCAAA. The NCAA did not acquiesce until 598 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 4: I'm told there was a threat of a lawsuit there, 599 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden the NCAA was like, 600 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 4: oh no, but then you throw this guy into the 601 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: offense mid stream right and Walker what he was was 602 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,679 Speaker 4: the your nine ball guy right down the field. But 603 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 4: now he had to shake off Russ. You have to 604 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 4: try to get him in there, and you have to 605 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 4: validate his opinion for coming to UNC. It wasn't the 606 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 4: kid's fault that the NCAA had done what they had done, 607 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 4: but all of these different moving pieces, and in that 608 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 4: the passing offense that lack creativity, an offensive line in 609 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 4: front of Drake may where you were getting the pressure 610 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 4: right away. That's where his game devolved a little bit. 611 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: I think year one, early on, you work with him 612 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 4: a little bit on a couple of these things, but 613 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 4: down the line he could be a star. 614 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: I really optimistic. I'm uh the Patriots. Patriots fans have 615 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: had plenty of winning. I feel like they're just released from, 616 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: you know, from the Belichick aura of negativity and hostility, 617 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: and I just want things to be fresh, new and 618 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: fun for the Patriots. 619 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 4: I do too, And this coming season they're probably I 620 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: don't think I'm going out on a lot or being 621 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 4: mean here, but they're probably gonna have a top ten 622 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 4: pick next draft, probably maybe a top five pick and 623 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: maybe maybe even. 624 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: Well, they have the lowest they have the lowest win 625 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: total in Vegas at four and a half. 626 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 4: So if they here's here's what I want. We're talking 627 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 4: about Drake may optimism for the future, how he has 628 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 4: a crappy receiving court. Now there are two gods of 629 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,959 Speaker 4: receiving prospects in the next class, Luther Burden coming from 630 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 4: Missouri and then Tetra Easy for me to say McMillan 631 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 4: from Arizona. McMillan is the skyscraper six foot five but 632 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 4: two hundred and ten pounds, about twenty twenty five pounds 633 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 4: less than Mike Evans was. Yeah, McMillan has the biggest 634 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 4: catch radius though you'll ever see, and he catches anything 635 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 4: that you put within that thing. He has highlights where 636 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 4: he'll catch the ball in practice put it through his 637 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 4: legs before his feet hit the ground, so he can 638 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 4: be like trick shots type stuff. If you get one 639 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: of those two receivers. Burden for people out there that 640 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 4: haven't seen him, he is analogous to Malik Neighbors from 641 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: this past class. But if you could get one of 642 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 4: those guys and add him to Drake May's offense going forward. 643 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 4: That would take a receiving cord that right now, it's 644 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 4: just a bunch of disparate parts of collection and misfit toys. 645 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 4: You put the number one receiver on them right away, 646 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 4: like the Giants did with Neighbors this season. If the 647 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 4: Patriots end up getting burdened or you have the freak 648 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: outside guy in McMillan, that would make that receiving course 649 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 4: start to look pretty solid right from the get right 650 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 4: when you submit that card. 651 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: Fantastic work today, Thor, that has been a ton of fun. 652 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: We will will show caution on Xavier Worthy, Ady Mitchell, 653 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 1: Jalen Polk. Last pick of our drafts. Will look at 654 00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Blake Watson, Cody Schrader, Jalen Cocher, and the incredible Hulker. 655 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, way down there for the dynasty guys. But I 656 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 4: think that there's one of those guys I think, or 657 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 4: maybe a couple end up surprising in the future. But Church, 658 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: I got to get back to playing NCAA football. 659 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: I know exactly. We've got bigger priorities here. Talk to 660 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: you later, everybody. Fantasy Football Weekly is a production of iHeartRadio. 661 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: For more podcasts, from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, 662 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.