Speaker 1: Magic.
Speaker 2: Johnson spoke about what Luca and Lebron must do to
Speaker 2: win a title, and he had this to say about Luca.
Speaker 2: Luca got to understand, this is not Dallas. We shouldn't
Speaker 2: have to tell you to be in shape. You should
Speaker 2: have already been about that, right, especially when you are
Speaker 2: a super.
Speaker 1: Slyly lamb Baby. They don't play that. No, they ain't.
Speaker 1: They they ain't. The ain't about none but championships.
Speaker 2: Oh r.
Speaker 1: So they are.
Speaker 2: And every superstar, every superstar that's come Bear has given
Speaker 2: them a championship.
Speaker 1: Will Kareem Shaq, Lebron.
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis, every superstar that they've gotten has delivered them
Speaker 2: a championship. I'm not talking to the guys that they drafted. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you know, Magic got them a championship, Kobe got them
Speaker 2: a draft championship, but.
Speaker 1: They didn't trade obviously. Shocked was a free agent.
Speaker 2: But every every superstar that's come and if we want
Speaker 2: to classify ID as a superstar, so being I don't
Speaker 2: want to pick about that, but I'm just saying, every big,
Speaker 2: big time player, free agent that's come to the Lakers
Speaker 2: has delivered the championship.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gotta deliver it. You think Luca has
Speaker 1: a chance to deliver, Yeah, if he can.
Speaker 2: You gotta stay in shape, stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I think that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3: I'm I wouldn't even say to stay in shape part,
Speaker 3: I'll say to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: Part? What what? What caused? What? Call?
Speaker 2: What caused you to get what caused you to get injured?
Speaker 2: When you out of shape? Because when you out of shape,
Speaker 2: guess what happens? You pull things?
Speaker 1: And you can be in shape and still get hurt.
Speaker 1: Now I can't.
Speaker 2: But why does he look every year? He looks like
Speaker 2: he's dragging them out of behind his back.
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right.
Speaker 2: It's because he be bogged down injuries his body where
Speaker 2: his body wears down on him.
Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal And I'm not saying that.
Speaker 2: And people see sometimes, don't yo, people just look at
Speaker 2: the end result. Well, look at the numbers that he's
Speaker 2: putting up. Right, But why does it look like?
Speaker 1: I mean? And you see he got tape, He got
Speaker 1: canisio tape.
Speaker 2: All on his back, all his shoulders, everything he getting
Speaker 2: hold Yeah with chicken white mess tape.
Speaker 3: I have a question to you, know, Yes, when you
Speaker 3: lose waiting in your game weight.
Speaker 1: Does it change his game?
Speaker 3: Will it change the game in the style of play,
Speaker 3: the way he plays a game not having that extra weight,
Speaker 3: Will he still be able to do some of the
Speaker 3: things that he does as far as using his body,
Speaker 3: you know, to play?
Speaker 1: Or no? I don't think so, O Joe.
Speaker 2: Be because you know why, Because I mean the mass
Speaker 2: twenty five twenty six on Joe. I can see when
Speaker 2: you get look you start getting in your thirdies, you
Speaker 2: getting that old mass spread, O Joe. You know it
Speaker 2: get harder when you and your twenties. Man, you should
Speaker 2: be able to just like that. Yeah, but I'm saying
Speaker 2: I'm talking about his style of play. Will he still
Speaker 2: be able to use your body the same?
Speaker 1: Uh? Oh, Shoe if he trained properly.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, You trained properly, You trained
Speaker 2: for that, you prepare yourself for the upcoming season, whatever
Speaker 2: type of workout you're doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I don't think it hurt him.
Speaker 2: I think it helping because when you're getting late in
Speaker 2: the season, when you get to February March, April, man,
Speaker 2: your body is still feel strong.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: I think the one thing guys have to understand it
Speaker 2: ain't just the off season that you get better, but
Speaker 2: during the season you have to maintain that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's because that's the hardest thing because when you playing
Speaker 2: every night, every other night, you know, it's hard to
Speaker 2: be like, Man, I gotta I gotta go in this
Speaker 2: weight room, I gotta I gotta throw these weights around today,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think that's the main thing, bro.
Speaker 2: Like for me Ojo, when I played, Man, I love
Speaker 2: working out before the game, Like literally before we played,
Speaker 2: two hours before, I go up and get me a
Speaker 2: nice little lift total body, you know, just to keep
Speaker 2: my body strong. So when I did get out there
Speaker 2: on the floor, you know I felt good, you know.
Speaker 1: What I mean? And I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree like I said, And look when you got
Speaker 2: when you dealing with that kind of money with Jo,
Speaker 2: everybody got the chefs, everybody, everybody got personal training, everybody
Speaker 2: got physios and lucas a guy his trainer can travel
Speaker 2: with the team. I bet you they let it, just
Speaker 2: like they let Lebron. Mike Mssie is probably traveling.
Speaker 1: Hey, y'all know that thing comes.
Speaker 2: It comes down to one thing, bro, that's having discipline,
Speaker 2: having it.
Speaker 1: You got to put some of them beers down.
Speaker 2: I ain't saying you gotta go cold turkey, but you
Speaker 2: can't be drinking beers every night.
Speaker 1: O Joe.
Speaker 2: After how about how about this old Joe fixed fact,
Speaker 2: not a case. That's know what I'm saying, get your fixed,
Speaker 2: nice little fixed fat hey, leading don't don't do the case.
Speaker 2: I'm just hey, hey the hookahk. They don't get the
Speaker 2: big thing on. You know what I'm saying. That's like
Speaker 2: fixed to eight people.
Speaker 3: Some of some of those habits for him are probably
Speaker 3: gonna be hard to break, especially depending on who who
Speaker 3: he has a rounding. Those those habits haven't been doing
Speaker 3: for a very long time. We all have our vices.
Speaker 3: You know, my vices cigars. But if it came down
Speaker 3: to it, if I had to stop, I can stop
Speaker 3: cold turkey when it comes to out and.
Speaker 2: Ask your question, could you stop smoking cigars doing the
Speaker 2: season for sixty million dollars?
Speaker 1: Huh? Could you stop smoking cigars during the season for Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I'm your thought that don't say, y'all, I'm
Speaker 1: just asking yes or no? Could you stop smoking cigars
Speaker 1: to it? Of course? Yeah? But and that's the that's
Speaker 1: the thing.
Speaker 2: Look, Look, Michael Jordan smoked cigars during the season, but
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan was a tip top peak shape. You look
Speaker 2: at the caps on his shoulder, you look at his body. Now,
Speaker 2: if Luke a if Luca, if Luca wasn't gonna wear
Speaker 2: down at the end of the year. As a matter
Speaker 2: of fact, Hell, I bring the cigars. How about with
Speaker 2: them cigars? You say, I got Tampa nuggets?
Speaker 1: Right now? I got some Tampa nugget upstead he lucious? Whatever? What? Okay? Hey,
Speaker 1: I bring it.
Speaker 2: I bring him a sixth pact, I bring it. I
Speaker 2: bring them a six pact. What you what you're drinking? Hey,
Speaker 2: look of.
Speaker 1: Course head odds of but but what what you dragging?
Speaker 1: Bod light, mick light? What you want? Hey?
Speaker 2: I know he ain't drinking, No, no, no, no, no bull,
Speaker 2: no slits ball looking, no old e liszten. So he
Speaker 2: probably drinking some niche. I think he's gonna come back
Speaker 2: in much better shape. But I think he's gonna have
Speaker 2: to maintain that throughout, you know, throughout the season.
Speaker 1: That's the toughest part. Man.
Speaker 2: I've been seeing him working out this summer, O Joe
Speaker 2: and uh so I know he hears the whispers. Believe me,
Speaker 2: he hit the whisper. He gonna come back. He gonna
Speaker 2: come back a different player for sure. Working out in
Speaker 2: the off season easy thing you can do because you
Speaker 2: got nothing but time. You know what I'm saying, O Joe,
Speaker 2: you got hey, you said that two hours a day.
Speaker 2: But it gets difficult. I mean it gets hard, man,
Speaker 2: You getting beat up. My shoulders getting sore. But I
Speaker 2: still gotta find a way to go in there and lift.
Speaker 2: I gotta bitch. I gotta do shoulder work. I gotta
Speaker 2: do leg work, I gotta do calf work. I gotta
Speaker 2: do a core work because that beating that I'm taking.
Speaker 1: And the last thing you want is the man.
Speaker 2: You trying to off injury as long as you possibly can.
Speaker 1: And you know what you get, Oh Joe, you getting
Speaker 1: nick during the season.
Speaker 2: It's hard to get healthy because you can't get no rest.
Speaker 2: You can't get proper risk. They got your ass up
Speaker 2: at the wee hours of the morning. You Hey, you
Speaker 2: can't train because you rehabbing. You do it all this
Speaker 2: training after after practice, you there two hours before meeting,
Speaker 2: getting all with you and then you get out. Then
Speaker 2: you trained, you rehab iceing and stem during lunch break Okay,
Speaker 2: you go out there, try to do too little walk
Speaker 2: through and then you got two hours after practice, so
Speaker 2: you get treating five hours a day.
Speaker 1: Remember them days?
Speaker 2: Yeah see, I know you remember the days. I remember
Speaker 2: the two fucking football. I know you can't make it
Speaker 2: through no season without lifting wasted a week, right.
Speaker 3: Especially, Hey, Joe and I could got mean young's body
Speaker 3: body type is a little different. I was small, I
Speaker 3: was I was strong as hell, so I had no
Speaker 3: choice but to lift waists to maintain my strength.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about me, no muscle joke, you know. I wasn't.
Speaker 3: I wasn't physically imposing, but I needed because the wear
Speaker 3: and tear on my body, and I was so small,
Speaker 3: I had no choice. I had no choice but the
Speaker 3: lift weights throughout the entire of the season because.
Speaker 1: I would wear down if I didn't.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to maintain my strength, and not maintain
Speaker 3: my strength to be strong, but to be able to
Speaker 3: withstand the punishment I was taking because I played reckless
Speaker 3: as hell, like a goddamn rag doll.
Speaker 2: Hey he and the position y'all playing here, y'all y'all
Speaker 2: pretty much running win sprints then entire Yeah, bas I
Speaker 2: was already undersized. I only weighed too twenty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I weighed too twenty eight. So I had to be
Speaker 2: I had to be strong, strong, and I held I
Speaker 2: held on till for about till about week thirteen.
Speaker 1: That was why things started cuting down all of a sudden. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, like I said, I thought it longer. It
Speaker 2: was the same thing with basketball, though. Think about it,
Speaker 2: when you put when you got back to backs and
Speaker 2: you playing four games and five nights, man, you still
Speaker 2: got a fire. I ain't saying you gotta go on
Speaker 2: there and squat no. Four hundred pounds, but you gotta
Speaker 2: go in there and keep the body strong, you know,
Speaker 2: because when you go threat through that rigorous season for
Speaker 2: six to eight months, Bro, if you not lifting weights
Speaker 2: every week, your body is gonna break down.
Speaker 1: That's just the way. Yeah yep.
Speaker 2: And as you get older, the thing that I like
Speaker 2: that you know, might look like, hey, don't work a
Speaker 2: I was only on one to day practices, O joe, Hey,
Speaker 2: go get your lift in. I was able to get
Speaker 2: my a practice in the morning, lift in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: kept me kept me gooding fresh. Hey, make sure I
Speaker 2: got my workout Monday after the game. Got Tuesday was
Speaker 2: all about me what I wanted to do. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Speaker 2: Sunday I was off. I ain't doing no once Thursday
Speaker 2: was rolled around. Hey, I'm more lifting for the climent.
Speaker 1: We're done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I go. I go Monday through Thursday. Damn
Speaker 2: for days, four straight days.
Speaker 1: O Joe boy. Hey, hey, one good thing? What that heye?
Speaker 1: Good thing? I find down this.
Speaker 2: When I was playing in Brooklyn, Uh, playing with Kevin
Speaker 2: gartnet Man, we used to get these lifts in after
Speaker 2: the game, right after the game. It may be a
Speaker 2: one center, but your one center may be like fifteen
Speaker 2: twenty reps. It may be like four or five exercises.
Speaker 2: That way, you know, you don't went through that game.
Speaker 2: Now you lift that weight them weight, so in the
Speaker 2: morning when you wake up, you don't have Atlantic acid.
Speaker 2: Just sit you know what I mean, You have a
Speaker 2: little pop for you. Kevin Garnet told me that. He
Speaker 2: said he got it from Dennis Rodman, and every since
Speaker 2: bro I had been doing it. Now I left Brooklyn
Speaker 2: and when I got to Miami. Hell, everybody was in
Speaker 2: the weight room after the game. D Wade U d
Speaker 2: Everybody's in there, I said, Man listen. It was just
Speaker 2: a great environment to be in. But that's one thing
Speaker 2: I can give athletes, bro especially hoopers, after game, you
Speaker 2: should get you a good a good lifting. It ain't
Speaker 2: gotta be heavy, just something nice to keep the body
Speaker 2: torn and strong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I ain't gonna.
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna lie Joe after game that Monday morning.
Speaker 2: I mean, I oh, y'all so bad by shoulders, by shoulders, aching,
Speaker 2: so bad bad by the by elbows, by.
Speaker 1: These especially if you come off playing on that turf.
Speaker 2: So Joe, oh yo, I don't know if you had
Speaker 2: if y'all, if you when you got to lead that
Speaker 2: did everybody had astro turf because by that time they
Speaker 2: had started to transition the field turf. But I was
Speaker 2: playing when they had that real that sement with that
Speaker 2: with turf rolled over the top of it down. I
Speaker 2: gotta understand, man, y'all playing a gladiator sport. The contact
Speaker 2: that y'all got, that's like a car wreck, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Every time you collide with somebody like
Speaker 2: that's that's gotta be rigorous.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: They So after y'all play on Sunday, what y'all probably
Speaker 2: don't have to report the practice to win.
Speaker 3: Oh Joe, Yeah, Monday Monday, you go and watch you
Speaker 3: watch film on Monday in the sum time. They give
Speaker 3: you a victory victory Monday where you don't gotta go on,
Speaker 3: so you.
Speaker 2: Play like you don't have to. Yeah, you just go
Speaker 2: get your own lyft, you know, you do your own thing.
Speaker 2: That's that's what. But I was it didn't matter. I'm
Speaker 2: always I remember we played Miami on a Monday night.
Speaker 2: Oh Joe, we got back at we got back at
Speaker 2: like five, like five thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm as well going to get me
Speaker 1: a work out and get it. Got it out of
Speaker 1: the way. I got got the way.
Speaker 2: That was the only that's really the only time that
Speaker 2: I didn't come back over there that Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I got my work out in. I always Tuesday was
Speaker 1: my workout there in Cleveland.
Speaker 2: Knockout, so all light song, get all the dirt out
Speaker 2: my shoes and stuff, vacuuate out. I did that, went home.
Speaker 2: That was it for the day. But I had to
Speaker 2: get that work. I had to get that work in, man,
Speaker 2: I just I just had to. I didn't feel right
Speaker 2: if I didn't left. I got to get try to
Speaker 2: get somebody sword in this out because like you said,
Speaker 2: now West Coast off is the tight ends. He does
Speaker 2: a lot of running and you know, sometimes you catch
Speaker 2: more pass than the other. But hey, you gonna get
Speaker 2: that block it in because TV back there, TV gonna
Speaker 2: get his touch, a TV gonna get twenty five thirty.
Speaker 1: K Hey listen.
Speaker 2: So in basketball this is about equivalent to about a
Speaker 2: love of three miles right a game, especially if you
Speaker 2: want him to head hit us and you're playing top
Speaker 2: minutes and football because y'all playing wide receiver tight end,
Speaker 2: it's a bunch of sprints.
Speaker 1: How many sprints you think y'all running a game? Oh lord,
Speaker 1: that's a good question.
Speaker 2: Uh probably, let's see. Let's just say, oh, Joe, you
Speaker 2: catch ten passes? Now you called it? It all depends
Speaker 2: on how many how many plass plays we have. We
Speaker 2: might have twenty five, we might have thirty, we might
Speaker 2: have thirty five. Now, some you running a shallow cross,
Speaker 2: some you run a flat route, some you're running a spit,
Speaker 2: some you running a scene. So for me, I would
Speaker 2: say probably twenty hundred yards threats. That's a lot, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you actually think it sounds like a lie.
Speaker 3: But you gotta think. Yes, each play is three seconds
Speaker 3: full five seconds, three seconds full speed, Yeah seconds full
Speaker 3: speed rest. So it's it's a continuous it's especially if
Speaker 3: if you're in shape and shape, well, man, you good.
Speaker 2: And even if you in shape in shape, guess what
Speaker 2: you a? You runned that too many drill and let
Speaker 2: it throw you a couple of passes in a row
Speaker 2: right into that. Hey, get in there. Oh check this out.
Speaker 2: Speaking of lifting, Joe, we got to talk about the
Speaker 2: video Oh Joe posted this morning?
Speaker 3: Oh playing with it? Oh, well, I forgot. I forgot
Speaker 3: about that this morning.
Speaker 1: Man. If the bar touches ches now I gotta touch
Speaker 1: a chance, it don't count.
Speaker 2: What don't count? If the bar does not touch your chest,
Speaker 2: it does not count. Hey, don't nobody touch my chest.
Speaker 1: But my own.
Speaker 2: If that bar does not touch your chest, it does
Speaker 2: not count. As who said the bitch press? Look that Google, Hey,
Speaker 2: look at the definition of a bitch press.
Speaker 1: Hold.
Speaker 3: No, no, I don't care what the I don't care
Speaker 3: what the definition of the bench press is.
Speaker 1: You ain't finna change. Oh, just you don't do it?
Speaker 3: Nobody, that's ain't no rep. I'm benching. How I see
Speaker 3: fitting while I look the way I do.
Speaker 1: No, no rep, no rep.
Speaker 2: Hey you saw how hey, listen they stay with me.
Speaker 2: You see how slow, how easy and slow. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do three fifteen next week for you too.
Speaker 2: I bet you done, and listen, I'm oh I can
Speaker 2: do three fifteen.
Speaker 1: What you talk about, cat, easy idea that you ain't
Speaker 1: doing like three four reps? I only did five. That's
Speaker 1: all I want to do. I just want to. I
Speaker 1: just to your chest, touch your chest. I just want
Speaker 1: to see if I still had it. Hey, but Tinny's
Speaker 1: too big. I can't. I can't tell.
Speaker 2: I can't tell my chest I got I just got
Speaker 2: him done. Uh uh kala, Labar said, shouting sharp nightcat
Speaker 2: tell him doesn't count as a full rep.
Speaker 1: Bard needs to get into the chest.
Speaker 2: This is how I know those dumbbells you were lifted
Speaker 2: the other day had to be fake struggling with two
Speaker 2: twenty five?
Speaker 1: Agree you gotta touch that bar to your chest or
Speaker 1: don't count. I gonna have to. I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't have to do nothing. I was supposed to
Speaker 3: follow the NFL rules. I ain't followed nain one, so
Speaker 3: I ain't. I'm the Barden not touching my chest. Y'all
Speaker 3: just mad. Y'all not stronger than me?
Speaker 1: How about that? I don't know, they might not be.
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're not talking to me.
Speaker 2: So I we we lift the same amount of weight.
Speaker 2: What do you talk about? Whatever you do I can do.
Speaker 2: I tell you what. I tell you what I do.
Speaker 2: I tell you what I do. I bet you fifty
Speaker 2: nine hundred. Whatever you max, I rep it. Whatever you
Speaker 2: fact file rep bet let matter of fact, double or nothing,
Speaker 2: double double lets double, okay, bet whatever you max, fiule repid.
Speaker 1: Hey, this was just you.
Speaker 2: This is what you fail to realize. I just look
Speaker 2: like this. I don't give a damn what you look like.
Speaker 2: I'm just as strong as you are. Whatever you max,
Speaker 2: I will rep it. All right, all right, all right, okay,
Speaker 2: if you saw me with two chains, I'll talk about
Speaker 2: with no with no warman. I just went in there
Speaker 2: did two twenty five fifteen times.
Speaker 1: That's what I just did. I just walked into the
Speaker 1: gym and did two twenty five for high ref and
Speaker 1: then put your chair up.
Speaker 2: Huh. All I've said is whatever you max three fifteen,
Speaker 2: three fifty, whatever you max, I'll rep it.
Speaker 1: Man, you don't want no smoke, Yeah I do. I
Speaker 1: want all that. I don't want smoke as a battle fact.
Speaker 1: I want Joe.
Speaker 2: I want Joe one hundred dollars on top of that too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I won't come with Joe. Hey this, I promise you.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the weight room, then they what
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: It is just what it is. I just look like this.
Speaker 3: You think because I'm small, less stature, I can't live
Speaker 3: with you lyft.
Speaker 2: I tell you what that's that same thing you can do.
Speaker 2: I'm telling the chat after chat? Do they think you
Speaker 2: could bitch with me? I don't care what the chat
Speaker 2: you have a lyft off. We gotta have a lifting fact.
Speaker 2: I can sell your hold on. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. I'm not copy. I'm convinced
Speaker 2: you hear me. I'm not cocky. I'm convinced. Can't beat
Speaker 2: me in the weight on. Man, Joe, you can't beat
Speaker 2: me hooping. That's what I tell you, Joe. Tryna tell
Speaker 2: you what I do. I tell you what I do. Oh, Joe,
Speaker 2: this is what I do. I bet my salary to
Speaker 2: your salary.
Speaker 1: Wait, well, which job? Any job you want?
Speaker 2: You take a FN you take nine camp, you take club,
Speaker 2: shay shape, whatever job you want.
Speaker 1: Okay, I like that. I like it.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, I hope my kids watching. We're gonna have
Speaker 3: a good Christmas.
Speaker 1: Hey man, Hey, I'm going the same bed.
Speaker 2: And Joe. Hey, Joe, Hey, Joe. When I'm done, well,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have me your property. Joe.
Speaker 1: Hey, you know what? Hey, yead that the way?
Speaker 2: Let me see that TV because I want to get
Speaker 2: that TV center. I won't let my I would I.
Speaker 1: Was, I want to.
Speaker 2: I won't by guy to come in there when you're
Speaker 2: gonna sen that ev Hey, you would take that piano
Speaker 2: cause don't nobody.
Speaker 1: I don't know how to play the piano, so you
Speaker 1: could take the piano with it.
Speaker 3: Hey no no, no, no, no no no no.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, that's that's a good. But I'm too strong though.
Speaker 3: I just look like, hey, what you're saying, and I
Speaker 3: just look like this.
Speaker 1: I just look like this.
Speaker 2: Hey, I don't even First of all, eighty four percent
Speaker 2: said me sixty.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the sixteen I don't know who.
Speaker 1: I don't know who they are. That's that's what that's
Speaker 1: what's wrong with society.
Speaker 3: We are visual creatures, so anything of size they just
Speaker 3: assume it's stronger, that that's just the way we are
Speaker 3: in society. And then people and as humans not understanding, Hey, Joe,
Speaker 3: if I'm not all yoked up the.
Speaker 1: Pig, then I'm not strong.
Speaker 2: Then you have people that are foolish in saying I'm
Speaker 2: doing one twenties and the way to faith. That's how
Speaker 2: you know, well, he's so small, we don't expect him
Speaker 2: to be able to do that eight times. I'm very
Speaker 2: strong for my sides where people don't understand, Joe.
Speaker 1: That's why I know.
Speaker 3: If me and it was a tussle, I'm folding like
Speaker 3: a long shell.
Speaker 1: Bad. He had the laughing on me. Bad. Don't I
Speaker 1: like the competence?
Speaker 2: I definitely, I definitely love to have you as a
Speaker 2: team because I know we're gonna go out there even
Speaker 2: if we're gonna get our alf beat.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have us commit that we comate this game.
Speaker 1: But every time it's not that department. Because boy, if
Speaker 1: you no dog, he ain't like it.
Speaker 2: Boy, if you think for one second you got a
Speaker 2: chance to beat me in some basketball, boy, you lost
Speaker 2: your mind.
Speaker 1: You lost right, all.
Speaker 2: Right, Listen, I'm not I'm not I'm not Michael beasy boy,
Speaker 2: I don't care who you will.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I ain't make a busy boy. It's old show.
Speaker 1: Now it's me. It's what I do. Check check. You
Speaker 1: don't even score no more than two points. See.
Speaker 2: You might get lucky and throw throw up a hell Mary,
Speaker 2: you might make a hell marry. You look like one
Speaker 2: of them type throw up a hell married. But outside
Speaker 2: of that, you ain't score no more than too. Man,
Speaker 2: all right, man, your he gonna lift boarded me? Lord havelbersy.
Speaker 2: I can tell by the look, by the little form
Speaker 2: you just did right there. I can tell now.
Speaker 1: Hey, and you see me. Hey, listen, you see me? Hey,
Speaker 1: look washing the wrist break and I'm not gay, but
Speaker 1: I know how to break through it. Hear me. Hey, Joe,
Speaker 1: and don't know, let me turn into side. You can
Speaker 1: see it. Joe. You got that goock, you got that
Speaker 1: goose neck? Yeah? Yeah? Pa? How much is that? How
Speaker 1: much is on that?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: Man, I'm feeling good totnight by I feel hey.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if hey, I don't know if you
Speaker 3: can see the chat earlier, y'all't know if you can
Speaker 3: see the chat earlier.
Speaker 1: But boy, I was.
Speaker 3: I was about to cry behind me, God damn glasses.
Speaker 1: Boy, what the chat? Boy?
Speaker 3: Y'all some funny people?
Speaker 1: Man, Joe, you can you see the chat?
Speaker 3: Oh? Man, listen many I would try. I was holding
Speaker 3: it in so bad, man posting that chest about one.
Speaker 1: I can't see.
Speaker 2: I don't see. I can see chat As was over
Speaker 2: here crying. I wanted what everybody George laughing. I'm like, man,
Speaker 2: I gotta keep it together. I'm like, what's funny? Man
Speaker 2: As shaking her head? Tell me about she got.
Speaker 3: A Hey, that goddamn chat was fun.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I was like, Man, did I I caught off? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: m hmm yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh asked pulling something for you? O, Joe?
Speaker 1: What is it? Was that? Tracy McGrady had a take
Speaker 1: this week.
Speaker 2: He went on the young Man in the three podcasts
Speaker 2: and said, I don't think nobody had better handles than
Speaker 2: Jamal Tinsley, even Kyrie Joe.
Speaker 1: Jamal Tinsley was in my draft class.
Speaker 2: Oh one wait, Jamal Timmy, jam Jamal Chinsley. He played
Speaker 2: with all he played. I think he went to our
Speaker 2: state at mistake we did.
Speaker 1: He got handled, he got handled, He had handled Joe.
Speaker 2: He had some handlers. But I don't know, I ain't,
Speaker 2: ain't nobody got no tight though he got it. He
Speaker 2: had a tight handle, but it wasn't no Kyrie.
Speaker 1: Time out, time time out.
Speaker 3: I don't and I mean no, disrespected to the sport
Speaker 3: of basketball.
Speaker 1: Chat.
Speaker 3: I apologize, Jamal, Yeah, Msley.
Speaker 2: That's the name we knew. You probably weren't gonna know
Speaker 2: that one though, Joe, don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But but but if if McGrady say he's better than
Speaker 3: than than than he is saying handle, he said handles, okay, okay,
Speaker 3: So he had the same type.
Speaker 2: Of yeah, yeah, he say the Max bag with him
Speaker 2: like he I don't know, I don't know if he
Speaker 2: was empreditions like Kyrie, but he had a nice handle.
Speaker 1: He had a nice handle.
Speaker 2: He was he was a big point guard too, like
Speaker 2: he would post stuff from time to time. But to
Speaker 2: say his handle was better than Kyrie, that's a stretch,
Speaker 2: bro Okay, Yeah, big stretch Kyrie.
Speaker 3: And and for me, I relate everything in soccer terms.
Speaker 3: To me, Kyrie's creativity is similar to that of of
Speaker 3: of Nymar and Ronaldinho. You know, he's he's a magician
Speaker 3: with the ball. They are magicians with the.
Speaker 1: Ball and not not not in the gym, playing around,
Speaker 1: I'm talking.
Speaker 3: About in game where it's you can't make a mistake.
Speaker 3: When you try to pull certain moves off, you have
Speaker 3: to excuse it. And every time they do do it, man,
Speaker 3: they do it with with just I mean, hey.
Speaker 2: Look, because it's really read and react some of the
Speaker 2: stuff that them dudes do, or even us as athletes,
Speaker 2: that we do in the game. A lot of times
Speaker 2: you're reading and reacting. So it may be he may
Speaker 2: pull something off that you've never practiced before.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You may pull something out you've never practiced before, but
Speaker 2: it's just reading reacts, so you know, it just kind
Speaker 2: of comes to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Like I said, he played against him, but it's hard
Speaker 2: for me to believe. And I've seen a lot of
Speaker 2: guys have the ball. ISAA Thomas could pat the rock,
Speaker 2: is said, Thomas was the first guy I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Isaiah will come up the court. You
Speaker 2: literally doing this right here? Da da da dah. Watch
Speaker 2: him in the All Star Uh White Chocolate had handles.
Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody have having by Kyrito.
Speaker 3: Hey, Jason Jason Jason Wibb was very entertaining with that
Speaker 3: ball in his dance. Boy, for sure, very entertained with
Speaker 3: that ball in his hand.
Speaker 2: You can't be worried about having no turnovers or making
Speaker 2: the mistakes playing like that though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seeing them dudes, yeah, they play free, they have fun.
Speaker 2: Hey, they let loose. You know, a lot of guys
Speaker 2: ain't willing to take them chances. Some of them chances,
Speaker 2: those dudes, some of them chances those dudes take doing
Speaker 2: the game, man, Bill, No, you canna get your ass
Speaker 2: snatched up out the game. Absolute there you go.
Speaker 3: They'll pull your coach and pull you out. Hell yeah, man,
Speaker 3: if you wait, I'm somebody in the NBA.
Speaker 1: If you ain't, oh Joe, if you out there you ain't,
Speaker 1: you ain't hire me. And you out there trying stuff
Speaker 1: and you turn the ball up, Man, you're gonna come
Speaker 1: sit next to me? Oh well you are.
Speaker 3: You got to understand that at the NBA level, dudes,
Speaker 3: if you really not like that, there would be no come.
Speaker 3: There will be no level of comfort to pull that
Speaker 3: shit off anyway in a real man.
Speaker 2: Some dudes out there who got some handles, they just
Speaker 2: scared to pull it out. They're scared to try some
Speaker 2: of this stuff in a real game. Like you see
Speaker 2: some of these bigs. You watched some of these dudes
Speaker 2: playing the summertime. You wouldn't you may you ain't doing
Speaker 2: that during the regular season or doing the sea you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? You know they pull it off
Speaker 2: and then get a couple of turnold boy, you're gonna
Speaker 2: be sitting down. Oh yeah, for sure, you know you right,
Speaker 2: they're nothing to let you just just arbor trilogy.
Speaker 1: Just and turn in a game. Won't yoe where it matters?
Speaker 2: Okay, you want to be in practice and you try
Speaker 2: some stuff like that, but you get in the game
Speaker 2: where when's the loss is battle?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hey, it's just like you might try some stuff and
Speaker 2: and and the and the warm up.
Speaker 1: Line pat and go huh oh yo, yeah, look what's
Speaker 1: on the bar with yo? Was that in four place?
Speaker 1: What's that? What's that?
Speaker 2: Four?
Speaker 1: Five? Mm?
Speaker 2: Hmm?
Speaker 4: Well you struggling while you struggling, day, I tell you what.
Speaker 4: I bet you can't tell me. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: You can't even hold it. That's three rests with full five.
Speaker 4: You ain't mappled them. Full five, ain't never done.
Speaker 1: You're gonna say you squatted.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I probably can bitch you
Speaker 2: what you squat while you bumping on?
Speaker 1: I don't do that. Why I squatted? Why you're jumping up? Holo,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 3: You might you might want to pump your brakes a
Speaker 3: little bit and talk to some of my teammates and
Speaker 3: ask that's ball five.
Speaker 2: Right there, Joe, Joe. Don't catch with no spottle and
Speaker 2: a sluicide o. Jo, don't catch no hurt out here
Speaker 2: trying to live no full five.
Speaker 3: Man, Hey Joe, Joe, I was doing full five when
Speaker 3: I was in the league.
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 3: I was squad of six fifty when I was in
Speaker 3: the league.
Speaker 1: Joe, I work out with Linman. Joe sat. You can't.
Speaker 2: You can't squat six fifty with a two ply suit.
Speaker 2: Hold on, Joe, that's why I know. You don't know
Speaker 2: if you know you? Have you ever been in a
Speaker 2: two plat suit? Hey, Joe, Joe, have you never been
Speaker 2: in a two ply suit?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: I only I don't want to wear three piece exactly, Joe, Joe.
Speaker 2: Every time every time I say I do something right,
Speaker 2: he never believed me until I have people that come
Speaker 2: on and play with me.
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody gonna come off. I can call Chip Chill, Paul,
Speaker 1: Chip called Rain Chip Moore Chip more than he'll tell you.
Speaker 3: I mean, I worked out with the lineman all I know.
Speaker 2: Pound for pound when I was in the league, I
Speaker 2: was the second strongest player. I was two hundred and
Speaker 2: twenty five pounds with a maxim fort seventy. You was
Speaker 2: the second strong player on your team. Maybe no in
Speaker 2: the league bodyweight pound for pounds. Man, Hey, you did
Speaker 2: that with no with no spot man, No, I nob Hey,
Speaker 2: he prayed. Listen he It was probably elevated. They probably
Speaker 2: had some help. Ain't no elevator. Hey, you see put
Speaker 2: it back. You can see what's back there. You can
Speaker 2: see what's back there. Hey on, you see these I
Speaker 2: take it down slow control o joke by myself. Hey,
Speaker 2: look touching my chest? That of the bitch.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's a that's a magic trick.
Speaker 3: Hey, loood, I gotta see that from my that's that's
Speaker 3: my Hey Joe, that's Ai Joe, that's Ai.
Speaker 1: That ain't hey chat, that's a I don't ain't gonna
Speaker 1: lie see you. That's what the chat. The chat. No,
Speaker 1: ain't gonna lie see, there ain't nothing bustling squad away
Speaker 1: for me. Boy, I ain't.
Speaker 2: I ain't saying I ain't gonna sit here a lot
Speaker 2: to you. I ain't gonna try to get under there
Speaker 2: and live.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: Four five?
Speaker 1: What please? Hey, hey Joe, it ain't that hard. Joe.
Speaker 1: He just just looked like that.
Speaker 2: You know, y'all got you know, football players at different
Speaker 2: bills from basketball players, for sure.
Speaker 1: I do. Joe, look at me, Joe, big big, he
Speaker 1: go he Hey, y'all, what give me?
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what? Oh yo, give me six weeks.
Speaker 2: What you're gonna do with six what you what you give?
Speaker 1: You said? Give me six weeks? What you talking about?
Speaker 1: You want you want to do? Oh yo? You really
Speaker 1: want to do this? You know I work out every day.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying, whatever you're gonna do, I work out
Speaker 2: every day.
Speaker 1: I ain't played football in twelve years. I work out
Speaker 1: every day like I'm finished. I know you think it's
Speaker 1: been since I played football. Damn you think I've retired yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm there telling you I work out every day
Speaker 1: like I'm finishing. Get a phone call, you just never know.
Speaker 1: I get to see the case I've been. I've been
Speaker 1: retired twenty two years.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay with double hips.
Speaker 1: What you want to do?
Speaker 2: I mean, Joe, I'll bet you I wouldn't even put
Speaker 2: my feet on the floor. Man, listen, six weeks what
Speaker 2: you want to do? I can hold my feet up
Speaker 2: to what you're thinking. Oh Joe, Oh Joe, I'll bet
Speaker 2: I'll beat you my feet up like this.
Speaker 1: Here I can do. I can do the same thing
Speaker 1: it was all about. Listen, uncle's all about Corey at
Speaker 1: that point.
Speaker 2: Hey, you see my feet on the bitch with you?
Speaker 1: All right? I want to I want to know what's
Speaker 1: up with this six week challenge? What you trying to do?
Speaker 1: Because I love I love a good competition. I ain't
Speaker 1: wasting my time with you, mate, That's what I thought,
Speaker 1: because you know what's up. You don't want with me?
Speaker 1: You know better. You know what line? Oh Joe, Oh Joe,
Speaker 1: get your blood pressure up? Oh yo? Hey, no, I'm
Speaker 1: good Joe, Joe, I'm Joe. But when it comes to competing,
Speaker 1: can't nobody to see me in nothing? I don't care
Speaker 1: what it is or what it is that Joe is
Speaker 1: what gonna do? Joe bad? Oh yo, don't even I
Speaker 1: don't even really lift like that. No more o, Joe.
Speaker 1: But for you then Lonses bind over there? Yeah? Who
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, Joe, you can't even do three fifteen?
Speaker 2: How you're gonna tell me what I could do? I
Speaker 2: do it tomorrow before my flight. I do it before
Speaker 2: my flight tomorrow.
Speaker 1: To show you. Hey, lifting a weight ain't nothing to me.
Speaker 1: Uh try to think? Hold on, were gonna listen?
Speaker 2: Let me finish. I've been pushing away since the eighties.
Speaker 2: I've been lifting with already. All right, all right, oh
Speaker 2: hey Joe, Joe, I've done done it all, Joe. But
Speaker 2: I was a mule for the cartail. Joe, you talking about?
Speaker 1: This is what I do? Hey on, look at this?
Speaker 1: Look at it. Let me let me put it in
Speaker 1: the camera for you.
Speaker 2: You can see, Jo, You see that that's thirty inches, Boy,
Speaker 2: that's thirty that half of that?
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, Joe, I took a nap today. Joe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell I took a nap to days. Had
Speaker 2: something you could you could you could beat me. I
Speaker 2: ain't dreaming, but a on it's.
Speaker 1: Spiked with something.
Speaker 2: Mellow responded to Michael Beasley's challenge to play one on
Speaker 2: one I'm not losing one on one game, bro, I've
Speaker 2: never lost the one on one game. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: I'm going out there playing what I'm saying. I got
Speaker 2: ridiculed for doing this ish at the highest level, for
Speaker 2: being on one on one. End Joe, I DMN the
Speaker 2: flooded with people telling me to ask you if you
Speaker 2: beat mellow one on one? Man, I think I beat anybody. Okay,
Speaker 2: I think I beat anybody. Here's why I tell y'all,
Speaker 2: I think the one on one game is very different
Speaker 2: versus you know, playing in a five on five setting
Speaker 2: you have iceolation. Yeah, you know one on one at
Speaker 2: the top, at the top. That's how you got the name,
Speaker 2: ain't so, Joe? Hey man, I've been doing this for
Speaker 2: a long time. I've been doing it all the time.
Speaker 1: That's like you do. They do not understand what I say.
Speaker 2: But but you know, you know, as athletes, man, everybody
Speaker 2: feel like you know, they they they can't be beat.
Speaker 2: But I tell you what I tell y'all, what's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I think all these matchups, I do think they gonna happen.
Speaker 2: I think they they may happen under you know, different conditions,
Speaker 2: meaning you know, we're gonna have to get it together,
Speaker 2: you know, get the sponsors right, you know, but uh,
Speaker 2: they definitely probably more than likely gonna happen for sure
Speaker 2: because because I know the fans want to see it.
Speaker 2: Look anywhere I go, since we brought this topic up,
Speaker 2: or since Lant and Beasley has played, this is all
Speaker 2: the talk has been about. So I know know the
Speaker 2: people I know, Chad want to see it. I know
Speaker 2: everybody want to see it. So I'm sure it's gonna happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's dope to a different dynamic, you know,
Speaker 3: for those that are playing in instruction environment five five
Speaker 3: anymore and have competition, the one on one competition, and
Speaker 3: it's something that can continue to.
Speaker 1: This can be be that's what I'm paying, that's all.
Speaker 3: It can become very very big and somebody sitting on
Speaker 3: the meal ticket, somebody sitting on the golden use or
Speaker 3: golden golden egg, whatever you want to call it for
Speaker 3: for NBA players. And this can also falter into other
Speaker 3: sports too. What you're talking about one on one sitting, yeah,
Speaker 3: one one one on one said, Nigga, listen, it could
Speaker 3: be football, it could be basketball. I'm not sure there's
Speaker 3: anything else outside of that that would be interesting to
Speaker 3: us culturally that people want to see. But football and
Speaker 3: then basketball would be really really.
Speaker 2: I know everybody want to see see these basketball match ups, man,
Speaker 2: and they gonna it'll be fun. It'll be interesting as well. Uh,
Speaker 2: it's something I'm very intrigued about. So it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do it for the culture. We're gonna do
Speaker 2: it for the fans, for sure.
Speaker 1: They gotta make some first. Now we just skate. We
Speaker 1: ain't just getting out there.
Speaker 2: Hello, there you go. Hell no, you gotta make. You
Speaker 2: gotta if it make dollars, that make can we go?
Speaker 1: Hey?
Speaker 2: Tyler Hero says he doesn't believe in history before nineteen fifty.
Speaker 2: I don't believe anything that happened before nineteen fifty for real, Like,
Speaker 2: how do we know when did Christopher Lumbers come to America?
Speaker 2: The land? Whatever they said? Fourteen ninety two, how do
Speaker 2: we know? I think these young kids just be saying
Speaker 2: stuff to say stuff. Hey, we're in different era, Uncle Ojo.
Speaker 2: Everybody want to have a vibe, everybody has a platform,
Speaker 2: everybody speak their mind. So it's a lot different now.
Speaker 2: And think about the o Joe guys they taking they
Speaker 2: taking history out of the schools.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, Hey, whose idea was that? That?
Speaker 1: Was Trump?
Speaker 2: Uh changing the curriculum and stuff, trying to erase history.
Speaker 3: So we don't know things that happened before we were here,
Speaker 3: And that's crazy, I understand.
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, he got grandparents, so if they
Speaker 2: tell him something, I'm sure his grandparents was born before
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty.
Speaker 1: E from Tyler herod out from the crib? Is he
Speaker 1: from mine? No?
Speaker 2: No, I don't know where you from. But I mean,
Speaker 2: so anything that his grandparents telling you, don't believe his
Speaker 2: grandparents were born before nineteen fifty Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Hey, let's talk about this trade. The Memphis Grizzly said
Speaker 2: Desmond Bane to the Orlando Magic for KCP Kentavious callwell,
Speaker 2: Pope Cole Anthony four one two, three four unprotected first
Speaker 2: round picks and it pickswap. Hold on, I don't think
Speaker 2: y'all hurt me, people, belle, because I didn't get the
Speaker 2: reaction that I thought I was gonna get from you.
Speaker 2: One two, three four unprotected first round picks and a
Speaker 2: pick swak.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean when you do something like are you
Speaker 1: blowing it up? Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you gonna get rid of John? Are you gonna
Speaker 2: get rid of a triple j I'll mean, what's going on?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Joe? Man? That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, they gave up a life, you know
Speaker 2: to Uh but Desmin Bane.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gave up a life from Desmond Bane.
Speaker 2: Man. But I mean, I don't know what myth it's
Speaker 2: got going on over there. I don't know what they
Speaker 2: plan on doing.
Speaker 1: Uh. Maybe they will get rid of Joe and JJ.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, why if you do that, then what
Speaker 2: you're banking on? What you I mean, what's gonna be
Speaker 2: your draw?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? If you get rid of them?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I look at it like this, right, I look
Speaker 5: at it like this, right if I'm GM, I'm looking
Speaker 5: at it like if I wanted to start a team, right, obviously,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna pick the guy that I want to start
Speaker 5: the team with.
Speaker 1: I'm a pick a five man.
Speaker 5: But if there's anybody else that you need as like
Speaker 5: a shooter, a glue guy, a guy that can just
Speaker 5: get you points from from nowhere, I honestly think he's
Speaker 5: an upgrade from Coble. You know, if we've been honest,
Speaker 5: he's done it in the regular season. He's done what
Speaker 5: you say, He's an upgrade over k oh Yeah for sure,
Speaker 5: for sure, right right, And I think Memphis all also
Speaker 5: needed a a guard who can bring up the ball,
Speaker 5: you know, who can go get.
Speaker 1: His own bucket. I like that. And they also needed
Speaker 1: some some some some.
Speaker 5: Some locker room presss. I like that from K C. Pete, Right.
Speaker 5: I don't like the picks, right, but it's been so
Speaker 5: up and down in the NBA. Luca gont just gets
Speaker 5: one first round. A guy gets three first rounds. So
Speaker 5: you just don't know the scale of of out of
Speaker 5: negotiaate with them.
Speaker 2: You see Rudy Gobert go for four first round picks,
Speaker 2: but Harry just don't know go ahead, yeah, we it's
Speaker 2: just hard for us to know like what's actually been
Speaker 2: saying in those conversations.
Speaker 5: So like we can look at it like, man, what
Speaker 5: the hell, what's wrong with y'all? How y'all giving up
Speaker 5: that much right to the naked eye, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It might have been the deals and placed before.
Speaker 5: We don't know if it's you know, it's it's so
Speaker 5: much with this business that you really.
Speaker 1: But Jr.
Speaker 2: Played well for Memphis last year when when Joab was down.
Speaker 2: I thought he played well.
Speaker 5: P Ball, Yeah, I think I think I think you
Speaker 5: keep him and you get cold, right. I don't think
Speaker 5: you can as many as plays but Ball Henderson playmakers
Speaker 5: you can have, you know.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a good that's a good look.
Speaker 1: I think lu Canard Lukenard is up for contract.
Speaker 5: I think he's free agent, right, So, I mean that's
Speaker 5: that's an open position. That's you know, just telling you
Speaker 5: they might not want to bring lu Canard back. So,
Speaker 5: you know, I think I like it with the presidence
Speaker 5: with KCP of winner who's done it before, someone that
Speaker 5: could be in Joe, I like Jared Jackson, JJ and
Speaker 5: Josh still together, you know. So it was just I
Speaker 5: like eating you know what I'm saying. We just have
Speaker 5: to see I go. I mean, I'm looking at this,
Speaker 5: I'm like, what message. I don't think they got better.
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't think they got better with this trade.
Speaker 5: I don't think Memphis they're still night seed. They they
Speaker 5: for the play in. With the move they made today,
Speaker 5: they're still in the play in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't look at the got okay with this
Speaker 2: move right here? Now they're top five, their top five,
Speaker 2: top four seeds. I don't look at it like that.
Speaker 2: You think their top four, top five seed right now.
Speaker 5: People be Now, you gotta think this is the same
Speaker 5: team that that fire Taylor Jenkins. So you know, you
Speaker 5: gotta come in thinking that sometimes maybe they don't they
Speaker 5: don't think the right way at all, you know, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So you gotta understand, like, oh man,
Speaker 5: this is the same organization.
Speaker 1: That fired a phenomenal coach.
Speaker 5: You steel, they've been in the headlines for John Moran
Speaker 5: and this this They've been at the headlines more than
Speaker 5: the Hollywood. You know, the Memphis was that unfortunately, I'll
Speaker 5: go out there pret better.
Speaker 1: I mean they got a matter of fact, you was
Speaker 1: on the team. Yeah you with that too. I said.
Speaker 1: I checked them and say, unkie, will you I'm cool.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you say, hey, let that go, man,
Speaker 1: let it go. Man.
Speaker 2: They on some bull jye, them young boys, they like that,
Speaker 2: let it go, Let it go. So like they've been
Speaker 2: in the news more than than the Hollywood tap So, like,
Speaker 2: you know, you you always have to question any moves.
Speaker 1: They may, Hey, look you see them trading John in
Speaker 1: triple J. Man, I can't see that. I know that.
Speaker 2: I know the room has been spreading around. But man,
Speaker 2: John is star power, He's box office. I think I
Speaker 2: think a lot. I think they lean. I think you should.
Speaker 2: They putting more pressure on him to be elite, to
Speaker 2: be one of the top guys in this league. And JJ, like,
Speaker 2: you got two great pieces who work together. I don't
Speaker 2: know why you would trade that, and and what you
Speaker 2: would get back for it, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: That would be comfortable to what you know they give.
Speaker 2: So I don't see I don't see them trading him.
Speaker 2: I think they looking for John to take that next
Speaker 2: step and uh, you know, b B be elite in
Speaker 2: this lead be one of the top of league guards. Man,
Speaker 2: That's how they gonna be able to contend.
Speaker 1: I think Josh phenomenal.
Speaker 2: He just can't stay he gotta stay healthy, old Joe.
Speaker 2: I think that's why they got them mother guards. That's
Speaker 2: why you bring in Cole Anthony. You keep Scotty pipping
Speaker 2: because of his injury history, but if you didn't keep
Speaker 2: him healthy, uh, I think.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's he's phenomenal, and besides, I mean you
Speaker 2: get rid of him. Who Look, they're a very few
Speaker 2: big man that team that that people ever have ever
Speaker 2: come to see. So they come to see small, they
Speaker 2: come to see Guards, They come to see Lebron's and
Speaker 2: Kevin Durantz. They come and see Steph Curry's and James
Speaker 2: Harden and guys like that.
Speaker 1: May look Triple J is.
Speaker 2: Phenomenal, but they people ain't gonna be lined up to
Speaker 2: see Triple J and Zachiety. I'm sorry he pete man.
Speaker 2: You know this is start driven league, bro, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? He got commercials, this, that and the
Speaker 2: third Like he got a shoe, Yeah.
Speaker 1: He got his own now hit a colture. The coach
Speaker 1: just looking for him to take that next step.
Speaker 2: Man, you know, be a little bit more disciplined than
Speaker 2: the things that he's doing off the court. You know,
Speaker 2: hold himself accountable and you know, come in and help
Speaker 2: get that franchise, you know, back to they winning ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he he's the chief for the man.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all the what they love him to death. Yeah,
Speaker 2: him and the young boy, they.
Speaker 1: Love, they love him.
Speaker 2: They can't do no wrong, they can't do he got
Speaker 2: the coaches. He's just, hey, hey, see what they feel like.
Speaker 2: It's bad for the public eye. Like like Pete Ball said,
Speaker 2: the whys they loving it?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? They love they love it.
Speaker 1: They love to see man like that.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, bro, do you understand how much
Speaker 2: money you cast yourself?
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.
Speaker 2: You make your big budd Hey, you get suspended for
Speaker 2: twenty games? Hey, hey, Pete bail back, come down. Twenty
Speaker 2: game that's probably three that's two, three million dollars four million.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 5: who Mad Jackson Jr.
Speaker 1: Back. Oh yeah, he called himself a hundred meal mm hmm.
Speaker 1: He made one of them.
Speaker 5: All the EMBO they said, uh, they talking about they
Speaker 5: talking about, they talking about your homie cost them all
Speaker 5: that money. Lebron James Hell, they say, Lebron, Lebron. If
Speaker 5: Lebron don't get that position, they say, that's the sort
Speaker 5: j J. Jason and he gets that three fifty. But
Speaker 5: but but but here's the thing. Does anybody think Triple
Speaker 5: J I play Lebron this year? No, not even.
Speaker 1: Not even.
Speaker 2: But see that's the thing in my mind I'm thinking, like, damn,
Speaker 2: they gonna gave it to Lebron for twenty years at
Speaker 2: least get me, you know, so I both ways, and
Speaker 2: the thing is is that you can't win.
Speaker 1: They said, okay, we want this.
Speaker 2: Okay, now you got a writers that's gonna decide how
Speaker 2: much money you actually made. Yeah, God, ain't that Why team?
Speaker 2: Second team, third team, first or second team All NBA MVP?
Speaker 1: You're right, hey, love cold game?
Speaker 2: Now that's a cold game me, man, it used to
Speaker 2: be the players voted, but they say, man, y'all got
Speaker 2: favorite killers, You got your playoffs, X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: So they say, you know what, let's turn it over
Speaker 1: to the riters. They turn it over to the riders.
Speaker 2: Bro, you ain't gonna somebody gonna be disappointed because the
Speaker 2: season that will average fifty and twenty five. He didn't
Speaker 2: win the MVP. So up until nineteen eighty, players voted
Speaker 2: for the MVP. Yeah, they said, nah, man, man, y'all
Speaker 2: be buddy buddy. Y'all be hanging out the All Star game,
Speaker 2: y'all cool, So you vote for your buddy.
Speaker 1: Okay, they say, let'll tell you what. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: it out. Now.
Speaker 2: The writers got it not what you want to do.
Speaker 2: Somebody gotta vote. Somebody got to win the MVPP BAUP.
Speaker 2: Somebody got to be first second team all the NBA.
Speaker 2: Somebody got to be first and second team All Defensive.
Speaker 2: So and gotta win these awards. So what's the way
Speaker 2: that you got you guys played in the league. How
Speaker 2: would you like to see that handle? I like, I
Speaker 2: like Asthman handled.
Speaker 5: And I think that once you kind of understand and
Speaker 5: the older you get that basketballs is huge business and
Speaker 5: part of basketball being a business this is it's partly
Speaker 5: entertaining also, right, it's entertainment. It's fans being entertained by
Speaker 5: guys shooting threes, guys and you know, doing call crazy dunks.
Speaker 5: So once I kind of found that out and I
Speaker 5: used to steal stuff, I'm like, hey, okay, cool, I
Speaker 5: see Tony throwing up first thing.
Speaker 1: Okay cool. Anytime I get a big stop.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna throw a first cent right right. That'll trigger
Speaker 5: people to be like looking, that gets to going. Media
Speaker 5: has to go with it. Right, So I get to
Speaker 5: play a game, now I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not.
Speaker 5: I haven't been at the luxury to you know, see
Speaker 5: three hundred and fifty million or competing. I haven't been
Speaker 5: in that luxury, but I know the small things I did.
Speaker 5: So ain't no telling what guys out here doing. My
Speaker 5: guys probably sending wid bottles, all types of stuff. But
Speaker 5: before you go, Joe, is that if Memphis, if job
Speaker 5: take care of it. Now they're on television more, and
Speaker 5: now people see them more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see Lebron's on you. The Lakers, they got forty
Speaker 2: forty two, forty three televised games. So you go see Lebron,
Speaker 2: you go see Lucas, you go see Jason Tatum. You
Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of these guys. But in Memphis
Speaker 2: it's contingent. So when John's there and they're playing, well, Memphis,
Speaker 2: we used to see Memphis and we see y'all be
Speaker 2: a second team. We see j Triple J be on
Speaker 2: all NBA selections. But when you're out of sight, Look
Speaker 2: I only got so bad. Look I'm I'm following the team.
Speaker 2: A lot of these people are beat riders. Everybody's not
Speaker 2: in there all these games. Everybody ain't watching everybody play.
Speaker 2: It's not like the NBA, I mean, excuse me, NFL.
Speaker 2: All the games come on Sunday, you got some playing
Speaker 2: playing Wednesday. They got some team playing Tuesday, got some
Speaker 2: team Thursday got pride. So I can't, Hey, I can't
Speaker 2: keep up with everything people. Hell, hey, listen. I think
Speaker 2: with Jan Jackson Jr. He bell for me, it's like
Speaker 2: he hang his hat so much on offense nowadays, and
Speaker 2: I think he needed to go back to being that
Speaker 2: mean defensive prisons. I don't know if he can lead
Speaker 2: the league in blocks anymore with Winby being in the NBA.
Speaker 2: But no, he wi't, ain't nobody would nobody, nobody fit
Speaker 2: the win the block title with Winby there. Hey, listen,
Speaker 2: but he gotta he got to his hat on defense.
Speaker 2: You know, his offensive game will come, you know if
Speaker 2: he if he let his his defense fuelss offense versus
Speaker 2: just standing out there at the three point line, you know,
Speaker 2: shooting a lot of threes. I know he got a
Speaker 2: nice little bag, you know, with him offensively, but they
Speaker 2: need his defensive prisons for them to be effective in
Speaker 2: that in that wild wild West.
Speaker 1: He said that.
Speaker 5: So, so we played them, We played them in the
Speaker 5: playoffs when I was in Minnesota and and and he
Speaker 5: was in the next year, he wanted to kind of
Speaker 5: work on his offense, and his switch was, Okay, if
Speaker 5: I focus all on my defense, I'm gonna end up
Speaker 5: in foul trouble a lot. He led the league's he
Speaker 5: led the league in files, also in it. So his
Speaker 5: thing was like, I'm gonna balance it out. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go a little bit offense, just you know, I ain't
Speaker 5: gonna put all my energy on defense. I'm gonna put
Speaker 5: a little bit more of my energy on offense to
Speaker 5: kind of balance it out. Because when he was all defense,
Speaker 5: he was fired, found out everything.
Speaker 2: But the probably the problem that you're gonna have is
Speaker 2: that they made the all the NBA team positionless. So
Speaker 2: now you might have five, six, seven, eight ten, fourth
Speaker 2: of forwards or threes or guards. So it's not like
Speaker 2: we gotta have a five or four or three or
Speaker 2: two of a one. So because you look at the
Speaker 2: second team, I mean you look at all for me
Speaker 2: like damn, and so now you really ain't half. But
Speaker 2: Yoki was the only center, and there was no JOELINGB
Speaker 2: cause you know, when JOELNB come back healthy, he getting
Speaker 2: one of them spots. But he ain't never gonna play
Speaker 2: enough games to getting no spot on That's what might
Speaker 2: be right so you gotta play sixty five the oldest
Speaker 2: on a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's why I'm saying for me, it's like,
Speaker 2: I feel like it's kind of you know, it's kind
Speaker 2: of easy for him to crack in that because it's
Speaker 2: a lot of these top guys they're not gonna play
Speaker 2: enough games to even be qualified for any of these awards,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So if you can keep
Speaker 2: himself healthy, I say, a solid twenty two to twenty
Speaker 2: three game with about twelve rebounds, you know, a couple
Speaker 2: of blocks, man, that'll put you right there. Third, Hey,
Speaker 2: you got a be a nineteen or eleven guy with
Speaker 2: three blocks, with two and a half blocks, that's the
Speaker 2: best you can do. Because if you put twenty points,
Speaker 2: twenty two points a game, that takes too much away
Speaker 2: from his defense. Oh oh, he just gave away bangs?
Speaker 2: How much bangs average? He averaged twenty something? Right, your
Speaker 2: bangs average bout nineteen twenty KCP and and and uh,
Speaker 2: the mother guys come hold after they hold on, they're
Speaker 2: not gonna they're not gonna be putting enough points right that.
Speaker 2: Now they're gonna have some games where they gonna be
Speaker 2: lights out. But for the most part, I'm saying to
Speaker 2: be consistent. You know, he has to be consistent on
Speaker 2: a night to night basis. That's basically what they're gonna
Speaker 2: be looking at. Hey, you work, he gotta get tighten them,
Speaker 2: have those up ball You gotta be able to put
Speaker 2: that thing of the play. Get to that spot.
Speaker 1: Man, you better get his ass to the block left
Speaker 1: blocks right right. Hey, Look how many bigs we got
Speaker 1: in the league? Who can chat?
Speaker 2: Who?
Speaker 1: Really? None? Look about four? Five up?
Speaker 2: When you talking when you talk about true, I'm talking
Speaker 2: about like a Yo Kic and an embiid.
Speaker 1: I mean theoretically they listened.
Speaker 2: Gianni says a big and Lebron and j T and
Speaker 2: all that, but Evan Mobley, Jared Allen. But when you
Speaker 2: really look at talking about like big bigs that play big,
Speaker 2: I mean triple jke right now, a D.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now a D healthy? Hey with a D healthy.
Speaker 2: So you got Jokic, you got Embid, you got a D,
Speaker 2: you got a Yannis.
Speaker 1: So that's four.
Speaker 2: That's four FoST right the fire, four to five. You
Speaker 2: could take Gianna. Gianna's main first thing the last eight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you gonna He's gonna be on that he's definitely gonna
Speaker 2: be on He's gonna be on that and and Yokic.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be hard to for somebody to unfeat him
Speaker 2: because he's gonna have a dab after the triple double.
Speaker 1: Got to win this seam gotta win. That's after that.
Speaker 1: That's it. They gotta win. Did the band? Did the
Speaker 1: band trade?
Speaker 2: Expose how badly the Mavericks watched the Luca deal the Mavericks.
Speaker 2: The Lakers gave up one first round pick for Luca.
Speaker 2: The Mavericks gave up four first round picks and a
Speaker 2: pick swap h Pete Bell.
Speaker 1: They got a D in return. A D ain't no slouch. Okay,
Speaker 1: he ain't no slouch.
Speaker 2: He can play like he an all star caliber guy
Speaker 2: if he can say but if you have they treated
Speaker 2: the dead, but bain like he's an all star with
Speaker 2: four first round picks. If unprotected normally people you're like, okay,
Speaker 2: they got some protection, Okay, top five protected. They're like, nah, nah,
Speaker 2: ain't nothing protected. We all out everything out ever pick swap.
Speaker 2: That kind of reminds that kind of reminds you of
Speaker 2: the Clipper deal done the pit Bill when they gave
Speaker 2: to get shaped m Yeah I was there for thatvere Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was there, I thought, and looking back on it,
Speaker 2: I thought for a minute, like, yeah we won this
Speaker 2: trade easy.
Speaker 1: You ain't. So you hold on? Were you there? Were you?
Speaker 1: Were you there with? Were you there with? Shay? He
Speaker 1: was my rookie. Well, y'all keep forgetting that. Why do
Speaker 1: you think here?
Speaker 3: Dogduh?
Speaker 1: So? So did you did you see? Okay?
Speaker 2: Obviously he was. He was a lot of it pick
Speaker 2: but did you think he could turn into this? I
Speaker 2: told him that.
Speaker 5: I told him the third day of training cap I
Speaker 5: tapped louke me and Lou send down. I tapped Lou
Speaker 5: lou Hey he cold, Lu said, yeah he.
Speaker 1: He he different. I'm like no, no, no, no, Lou
Speaker 1: he I get up from Lou. You don't hear what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I go right to say. He say, how
Speaker 1: good do you think he could be? You know?
Speaker 5: He he from the sixth so he talked like he
Speaker 5: talked different than he's like.
Speaker 2: I mean I think I could be like like that's
Speaker 2: no that heavy ass boy.
Speaker 1: No you you a superstar? You mean like all star.
Speaker 5: I'm like no, no, no, no superstar like Mike Jeordian
Speaker 5: coach Bryant Hugh like, like he seriously so fast forward.
Speaker 5: You know, I see his mom out shopping and while,
Speaker 5: you know, while we're playing Toronto, and she's like, man,
Speaker 5: thank you for you know, telling my son that, like
Speaker 5: you gave him that confidence.
Speaker 1: Like he after you said that, he really believed it.
Speaker 1: People always forget save what's my rookie? Same with my rookie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's next year.
Speaker 5: Even with Chris Paul and Dennis Troller respectfully, you know,
Speaker 5: everybody got to get take room from somewhere else. But nah,
Speaker 5: Sam getting that ball in the playoffs. So he's playing
Speaker 5: Steph Curry a man, get Steph thirty.
Speaker 1: What are you doing when you pass me the ball?
Speaker 1: Go get step thirty? Kill out?
Speaker 2: Hey, hey look but when you look at Ituck and
Speaker 2: Pete Bev certain things happening throughout guys career, they kind
Speaker 2: of helped take them to that next level, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Him getting traded from the Clippers. You
Speaker 2: never know how he was thinking. He may be thinking like, man,
Speaker 2: they ain't think I was good enough. So yeah, here's
Speaker 2: your card, so somebody get rid of you. That's what
Speaker 2: they telling you. So so so now he in the
Speaker 2: lab working hard as ever, you know, probably showing prove
Speaker 2: like all right, I'm showing Uh. I don't know if
Speaker 2: he if he expected himself to reach this level. Man,
Speaker 2: it's been it's been special to watch. It's been special.
Speaker 5: Nah what Like I see him the next year and
Speaker 5: lay up Monassan.
Speaker 1: He was like, man, that trade. I was like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: what you think of? He like, man, what you mean
Speaker 1: you don't trade me for him? You know, like talking
Speaker 1: about Paul George.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, like and to be a second third
Speaker 5: year guy like saying that shows you how much confidence
Speaker 5: they had.
Speaker 1: But I think it happened. I think it happened later.
Speaker 5: I think it happened when they got rid of a
Speaker 5: Dennis Schroeder and CPTE and they put the ball all
Speaker 5: in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, because that's when you kind of saying like
Speaker 1: that nineteen point twenty point.
Speaker 5: Scout thirty like once once they like clean house and
Speaker 5: like made him the primary ball handler and building around him,
Speaker 5: everything everything changed staff. So I think that was a
Speaker 5: that was a that was you have to again, Sam Presty,
Speaker 5: that's a that's a that's another one to say that.
Speaker 2: Look, and I think we both get water clippers had
Speaker 2: to do this, you're getting Kawhi. Kawhi is basically saying, well,
Speaker 2: if y'all don't do this, I'm gonna go with the Lakers.
Speaker 2: Do y'all really want me? Lebron and a D and
Speaker 2: then y'all y'all got a cup pat Bell That wouldn't
Speaker 2: have worked that well for y'all.
Speaker 1: Man, I know, but we don't need in our mind.
Speaker 5: You gotta think we just took the year before, we
Speaker 5: just took gold and State, six gamesl CAPR.
Speaker 1: So in our mound, our mound, we thinking like, man,
Speaker 1: we just need one more person be cool.
Speaker 5: Right, So they was they were shopping KD might come.
Speaker 5: You know, there was a thoughts that Kawhi my come.
Speaker 5: We didn't think Kawhi and Paul George, you know. So
Speaker 5: for us, we're looking like, oh man, we got a
Speaker 5: real chance to win a championship. And that's when you know,
Speaker 5: you know things, you know, the bubble happened, and the
Speaker 5: three one.
Speaker 1: Happened, and the injuries happened, and next thing you know, you.
Speaker 5: Know, Shade, Shade's the MVP, and he's in the championship game,
Speaker 5: up up
Speaker 1: Three two right now,