1 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 1: Well, good evening, everyone, Welcome to Stinchfield. What a day 2 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: it was at the White House. I think President Trump 3 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: Vice President J. D. E. Vance showed the world why 4 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: the two of them must be the tag team champions 5 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: of the world. The bottom line is, Vladimir Zelenski, the 6 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: President of Ukraine, came into the Oval Office with a 7 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. He was arrogant, and he learned 8 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: a lesson the very hard way. You do not come 9 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: to America. You do not walk into the Oval Office, 10 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: and you do not act disrespectful. You do not act arrogant, 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: you do not act greedy, and most of all, do 12 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: not act unrealistic as the United States is trying to 13 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: stop so many of your citizens in Ukraine from being killed. 14 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,839 Speaker 1: Do you know over a million Ukrainians have been drafted. 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: We can't get a good number on how many have died, 16 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: but hundreds of thousands. They're set to draft another one 17 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty thousand Ukrainians. The war must end, the 18 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: killing must stop. That's what President Trump wants. But Zelensky 19 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: came in with such a bad attitude. It didn't take 20 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: long for this to go south, and ultimately Zelensky get 21 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: kicked out of the White House. No deal. I'm going 22 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 1: to play you a long clip, but it's worth watching. Okay, 23 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: take a look. 24 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to 25 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: end the destruction of your country. 26 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: Yes, but if you have president with respect. 27 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the 28 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: Oval Office to try to litigate this in front of 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: the American media. Right now, you guys are going around 30 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 2: and forcing conscripts to the front lines because you have 31 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: manpower problems. You should be thanking the president for everybody 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: to bring it into this com. 33 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: Live into Ukraine. 34 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 3: That do you say what problems we have been to 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 3: come on? 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories, and 37 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 2: i know what happens is you bring people, you bring 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 2: them on a propaganda tour. Mister President, are do you 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 2: disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military? 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: Do you think that I respect aloans to come to 41 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: the Oval Office. 42 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: Al United States of America and attack the administration that 43 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 2: is trying to trying to prevent the destruction. 44 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 3: Of your coming A lot of a lot of questions. 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,239 Speaker 3: Let's start from the beginning, Sure Hills to Wall during 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 3: the war. Everybody has problems, even you. But you have 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: nice olution and don't feel now, but you will feel 48 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 3: it in the future. 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 4: God bless you. God bless You're not blessed. You know, 50 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying 51 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going 52 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 4: to feel. 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: I'm not telling you because. 54 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: You're in no position to dictate that. 55 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 3: Remember this, you're in. 56 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: No position to dictate what we're going to feel. 57 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 3: We're going to feel very feel influenced. 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 4: We're going to feel very good and very strong. 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: It will feel incidence. 60 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 4: You're right now not in a very good position. You've 61 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: allowed you to be in as. 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 3: From the very beginning of the war. 63 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: Not in a good position. You don't have the cards 64 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 4: right now with us. You start having. 65 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 5: Cards right now, you don't. 66 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: Wear You're gambling. 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 4: Reminds millions of people seeing you're gambling with World War three. 68 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: You're gambling with World War three, and what you're doing 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 4: is very disrespectful to the country, this country. Far more 70 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 4: than a lot of people said they. 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: Should have have. You said thank you once a lot 72 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: of times, no Entia. 73 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 2: You said you went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the 74 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: opposition in October, offer some words of appreciation for the 75 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: United States of America and the president who's trying to 76 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: save your country. 77 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I want you to listen to me and listen to 78 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: be very careful here. What you just witnessed there is leadership. 79 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: What you just witnessed there is an America first president 80 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: that nobody dictates how it's going to go down except 81 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: for President Trump in consultation with JD. Vance. Now, I 82 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: also want you to listen to me when I tell 83 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,359 Speaker 1: you this. For anybody that's concerned about this interaction, this 84 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: interaction is a victory for the United States of America, 85 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: and I can tell you why it's a victory. Zelensky 86 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: poses absolutely zero threat to us. Putin most certainly does 87 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: pose a threat to us, whether you like it or not. 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: He's the guy we got to be worried about more 89 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 1: than Zelenski. Here's what it does. There is now a 90 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: risk for Zelenski that he gets no money. Now he 91 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: risks certainly losing the war with no money and weapons 92 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: coming from the United States, Europe may have to be 93 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: forced into this game to prop Ukraine up. If America 94 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: under President Trump says you know what, We're not gonna 95 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: be disrespected like this. We're not gonna spend billions of 96 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: dollars in your country anymore. So Europe then would be 97 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: forced to pick up the slack. And look, he runs 98 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: the risk of losing this entire rare earth minerals deal 99 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: which would bring Ukraine money. But more importantly, it puts 100 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: American not boots on the ground, but engineers, miners, workers, 101 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: executives in Ukraine, where Putin wouldn't go near those people, 102 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: not in a million years. So Zelensky riched everything with this. 103 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Now is Putin grinning. You better believe Putin is grinning 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: at this because he just witnessed Zlensky do something very, 105 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 1: very stupid. This is President Trump this afternoon, leaving the 106 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: White House on his way to Mario Lago. 107 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: We had a meeting today, as you know, with President Zelenski, 108 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 5: and I would say it didn't work out exactly Gray 109 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 5: from this standpoint, the movie very much. 110 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: You over played his hands. 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 5: We're looking for peace, We're not looking. 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,720 Speaker 4: For somebody that's going to sign up a strong power 113 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 4: and then not. 114 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: To make peace because they involved. And then that's what 115 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: I saw happening. Yeah, you know what's nice Mike Pence, 116 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: the former vice president? What he filled a chair? He 117 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: didn't really do anything until he really botched it up 118 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: at the end. Jd Vance, Well, I'll tell you this guy. 119 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: I like him every day more and more and more. 120 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: This is going to be our future president. I can 121 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: see this already. He had President Trump's back watch. It's 122 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: going to be a very hard thing to do business 123 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: like this. 124 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: Tell you to say thank you, I said. 125 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: It, except for America. He said that there. 126 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 2: Are disagreements, and let's go litigate those disagreements rather than 127 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: trying to fight it out in the American media when 128 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: you're wrong. 129 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: We know that you're wrong, but you see, I think 130 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 4: it's good for the American people to see what's going on. 131 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: I think it's very important. That's why I kept this 132 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: guy so long. You know, President Trump is correct. All 133 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: of you. It's why I played the other clip for 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: a long portion of it because you need to witness 135 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: it first hand make your own decisions. But Zelenski, I 136 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: don't know where he gets the arrogance, but he really 137 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: does get arrogance. President Trump then shut the meetings down. Ultimately, 138 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: Zelenski was basically virtually kicked out of the White House, 139 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: ze Lensky wanted to come back. He wanted to renegotiate. 140 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: I believe you realize he will come back with hat 141 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: in hand. Maybe too late. I don't know. This is 142 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: President Trump again. 143 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 4: People that die tell you you're running low on soldiers. Listen, 144 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 4: you're running slow in soldiers. It would be a damn goodness. 145 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 4: Then you tell us I don't want to cease fire. 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: I don't want to cease fire. I want to go 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 4: and I wanted this. Look, if you could get a 148 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: ceasefire right now, I tell you. 149 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: You take it. 150 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 5: So the bullets stuffed flying and your ment stuff. 151 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 3: Courting kills postmen wont to still the war. 152 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 4: But I'm saying you don't want to see that. I 153 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: want to see because you get a ceasefire faster than. 154 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: Any You're guarantees are having President Trump in office and 155 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: Putin's not going to make a move. You're guarantees are 156 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: having American industry executives and miners on the ground where 157 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: Putin's not going to mess with them either. Those are 158 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,679 Speaker 1: the guarantees. But unfortunately Zelenski's too thick headed to see it. Now. 159 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: The American leftist media left wing pundits, people like Ben Rhodes, 160 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: former national security advisor for Barack Obama. They want to 161 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: play this up as somehow President Trump made a mistake. 162 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 6: They're wrong to say that they're propaganda tours. As Jad 163 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 6: Benn said, when people visit Ukraine and see horrible things, 164 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 6: it's not propagandataurs. 165 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: That's true. 166 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 6: That's the reality of what's happening in Ukraine. The propaganda 167 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 6: is what's coming out of Jade Vance's mouth, and it's 168 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 6: Russian propaganda. 169 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: Look, the bottom line is Zelenski suspended elections. I understand 170 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: it's countries occupied, but not the greatest look in the world. 171 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: So now he is there, He's canceled political opposition parties. 172 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: We know that's an absolute fact. We know that he 173 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 1: has done away with certain religious factions in his country. 174 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: This is not how equote democracy works. Even you know, sadly, 175 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: sometimes the guy makes me happy, sometimes the guy makes 176 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: me sad. I'm talking about Senator Lindsay Graham. I would 177 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: call him a rhino. I think it's safe to say. 178 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: But even Lindsay Graham sees that this was a win 179 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: for President Trump. 180 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 7: So Lindsay's got a chip on his shoulder. Every European 181 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 7: leader applause him for standing up to Trump. All I 182 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 7: can say is a missed opportunity. Doesn't even begin to 183 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 7: explain it. And Zelensky is either going to have to 184 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 7: fundamentally change or go. 185 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: The European leaders can be laughing. They can be laughing 186 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 1: all the way to the bank, because it's going to 187 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: be their money. They're gonna have to be withdrawing to 188 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: send over to Ukraine when the United says, State says, 189 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm no more so, what does all this mean on 190 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: the international stage. I want to bring in former intelligence 191 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: operations officer and now president of the Project Sentinel, Lieutenant 192 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Colonel Tony Schaeffer is back with us. Colonel, good to 193 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: see you. Welcome, goodnes see Graham. What did you make 194 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: of today, Colonel spectacular? 195 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 8: Look you went through it in a great, detailed, very 196 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 8: logical fashion. We have been funding failure, and for Ben 197 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 8: Rose or anybody else, don Tim Wallaser is out there 198 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 8: today trying to say that we need to reinforce that 199 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 8: failure by just giving a Zelensky the check book and 200 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 8: letting him write checks is insane. What President Trump did 201 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 8: today is show not only Zelensky whose boss but Z 202 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 8: and China and putin a lot of people don't understand 203 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 8: that the world is watching in this public display of 204 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 8: leadership by the team. It wasn't just Trump at President Trump. 205 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 8: It was also jd Vance basically saying, look, we are 206 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 8: trying to help you. We are trying to stop the bleeding. 207 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 8: We're trying to do those things you have failed to do, 208 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 8: mister President. 209 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: That is Elenski. And Zelensky didn't get it. 210 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 8: He doesn't get it. 211 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: And at this. 212 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 8: Point, Grant, I don't think there's any coming back from this. 213 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 8: I think, oh, by the way, you don't show up 214 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 8: to the Oval office addressed like you're going you're late 215 00:10:59,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 8: for our room. 216 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: But answer class, I mean to me that. 217 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 8: I mean, it was insane and it just got worse. 218 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's let's do this. I'm gonna play two clips 219 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: for you, okay. The first, since you brought it up, 220 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: and I think it's classic, Colonel. The first is President 221 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: Trump taking a little dig at at Zelensky. Here, this 222 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: is cut twelve. 223 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: He's all dressed up today, thank you very much. 224 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: All right, so he says, you're all dressed up today. Well, 225 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: our buddy Brian Glenn who's the White House correspondent for 226 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: Real America's Voice had a question for Zelensky. Listen to this, colonel, 227 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: why don't you wear a suit? 228 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,680 Speaker 4: Why don't the highest level in this country office and 229 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: you refuse to wear a suit. 230 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 1: People just want to see if you do own as soon. 231 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of Americans have problems with you. 232 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: Office. I will some off thet this war with the finish. 233 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 3: Yes, maybe maybe something maybe it's something like yours. Yes, 234 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: maybe maybe it's something Betta. 235 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, we will see. 236 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: Maybe it's something cheaper than Yeah. 237 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 1: What the reality is, colonel, it is the Oval Office. 238 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: I think he's wearing a costume with the with the 239 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: war get up and all that. I think it's all 240 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: for show. He ought to put a suit and tie on. 241 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 8: Quite frankly, well, he's disrespecting the Ukrainian people as well. 242 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 8: Remember he represents the Ukrainian people. So uh, really, you're 243 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 8: showing up to the most powerful man, to the most 244 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 8: powerful office in the planet, and you're you're dressed like 245 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 8: you just like I said, go into a roomba class. 246 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Uh. Grant. 247 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 8: I don't know what people, I don't know who's advising him, 248 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 8: But whoever advising him or advising him badly. Part of 249 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 8: the whole issue here is not just the suit. And 250 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 8: by the way President Trump did like that question, you 251 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 8: could see President Trump like that question from the way responded. 252 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 8: What we need to consider here is what's best for 253 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 8: the Ukrainian people and what's best for the world. This 254 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 8: isn't just about a man whose ego is bigger than 255 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 8: the state of Idaho. This is about the fact that 256 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 8: this man, as President Trump said, doesn't get the memo, 257 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 8: he is on the path of being the predicate for 258 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 8: World War three. How do you not get that? How 259 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 8: do you not understand that the very essence of Western 260 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 8: civilization is on the line because of one person's ego. 261 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 8: I think this is something that we need to consider 262 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 8: as the American people. 263 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 1: You know, Colonel, I actually take a little different look 264 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: in the fact, I don't really think there's any risk 265 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: of World War three. I think Europe's going to turns 266 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: back on Ukraine if it really came down to it. Say, oh, 267 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: I think them have it, And I think everybody knows 268 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: that it's not nineteen eighty seven. Vladimir Putin isn't going 269 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: into Poland or any place else, I really I just 270 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: don't believe that. I don't know where you stand on that, colonel, 271 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: but this is my thoughts. 272 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 8: Well, my thoughts is miscalculation one of the things I 273 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 8: learned from the Cold War, and I recommend a book 274 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 8: called War Scare in nineteen eighty three, Grant, there were 275 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 8: several times that miscalculation almost resulted in a mass use 276 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 8: of weaponry against both sides. So I have faith in 277 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 8: President Trump and Putin. Be honest with you, it's all 278 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 8: about those knuckleheads who don't understand that if you start 279 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 8: pushing buttons, things might get out of control. And there's 280 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 8: a famous line in The Hunter for Red October, things 281 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 8: are get out of control and people are going to die. 282 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 8: That's my worries miscalculation. So as long as we have 283 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 8: adults in a room who understand the potential consequences of 284 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 8: bad behavior, will be fine. But it's not that it's 285 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 8: the idea that something gets off the rails. Somebody miscalculates 286 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 8: and next thing you know, you got some sort of 287 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 8: an incursion into NATO territory and people have to respond. 288 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 8: That's the danger we're facing, right all. 289 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: Right, Last question for you, what does Russia do here? 290 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: What does this mean for the war? Certainly Vladimir Putin 291 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: probably was happy with the way this went down, But 292 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: what does this look like to you? Maybe he's not happy, 293 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 1: Maybe he wanted to ceasefire and to stop the killing 294 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: in a way out your thoughts. 295 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 8: So that's why right now as we speak, there's still 296 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 8: two teams American and Russian live meeting in Riya, trying 297 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 8: to figure out a way out of this mess. Grant 298 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 8: commerce and trade is the language of peace, That's what 299 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 8: President Trump wants. Russia can't continue to go down the 300 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 8: path right now. It's on either It needs to have markets. 301 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 8: It's a massive country with a lot of resources, a 302 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 8: lot of gas, and they can't trade. So I think 303 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 8: Vladimir Putin is looking for a way out of this, 304 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 8: and I think that's why they're going to be willing 305 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 8: to accept things that they've said they wouldn't accept up 306 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 8: up until now. But to that point, you've got to 307 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 8: have everybody in the room who's willing to negotiate. President 308 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 8: Trump introduced the concept of face to face negotiations. That's 309 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 8: what was key about the Reagan years. So, by the way, 310 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 8: a little note for the Russians, and for the for 311 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 8: the Ukrainians watching, go to New York. Learn the language 312 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 8: of New York, learn how people react. President Trump was 313 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 8: successful up there. 314 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: Read his book. 315 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 8: Understand that it's Reagan meets the Guard of the Deal 316 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 8: that will do that will do everybody well to understand 317 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 8: what's going on right now. 318 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: As as somebody who grew up in and around New 319 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: York half Italian, I will tell you, uh, Donald Trump 320 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: brings a Gambino style to Reagan style. Reagan Gambino meet, 321 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: that's President Trump and his philosophy. Lieutenant Colonel Tony Shaffer, 322 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: It's always so good to see you. I appreciate your insight. 323 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: I SA all of this, thank you, grant to thank you. 324 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Absolutely good seeing you two. All right, folks, I want 325 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: to turn now to another war that continues. That is 326 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: the war on gun ownership out in California. You know 327 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: what happens in California doesn't stay in California. Do you 328 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: believe there's a knucklehead Democrat in Los Angeles who introduced 329 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 1: a bill at the state level that would basically require 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: you to retreat if you face any danger. It requires 331 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: here this is the wording to disengage or de escalate 332 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: and if you don't do that, you could be charged 333 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: with murder. Well, I don't know how to explain this 334 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: any more than a pro criminal bill, but that's what 335 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: California does out there. So I want to bring in. Now, 336 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: Deputy District Attorney for Los Angeles Counties Complex Child Abuse Section, 337 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: Jonathan Hatami is back with us. Jonathan, it's good to 338 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: see you. Welcome to the program. 339 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 9: Thank you, Grant, good to have good to be here. 340 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: All right. You and I were talking about this on 341 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: the radio program that we do out out in Los Angeles, 342 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: and I want everyone to know Los Angeles County is 343 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: lucky to have a guy like you. Couple others now, 344 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: even Nathan Hackman there as a district attorney. Things changing. 345 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: You guys have some level heads about this stuff freedom, 346 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. Explain to me why this bill is 347 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: so bad. 348 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 9: So you know, first we have to pay attention to 349 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 9: the California legislature. Like you know, most of them up 350 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 9: there are radical. Many of them up there do not 351 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 9: care about us as people. This specific bill proposed by 352 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 9: Rick Zeburg basically was going to take away our right 353 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 9: to self defense, our right to have stay yourd ground, 354 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 9: which we have here in California, and our right to 355 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 9: the castle doctrine which we have here in California. It 356 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 9: was going to eviscerate all of that. It basically said 357 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 9: that you had a duty to retreat if let's say 358 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 9: you're out there and you see that your spouse or 359 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 9: your child's being attacked or sexually assaulted, if you're being carjacked, 360 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 9: if you're being robbed, and somebody's using a deadly weapon, 361 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 9: you have a duty to retreat before you can use 362 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 9: deadly force in self defense. You can't protect your home. 363 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 9: We have the castle doctrine here in California where you 364 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,640 Speaker 9: can protect your home if you're threatened or if your 365 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 9: family is threatened. It was going to change that as well, 366 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 9: and so it was going to make it very, very 367 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 9: dangerous for so many people in California. You know, you 368 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 9: should have a choice. You should have a choice that 369 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 9: if sony breaks into your home and they use deadly force, 370 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 9: you have a right to use deadly force against them 371 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 9: to protect yourself, to protect your children, to protect your spouse. 372 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 9: If you want to flee, that's your choice to do that, 373 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 9: but you should have a right to use deadly force 374 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 9: if somebody enters your home, somebody sexually assaults you, or 375 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 9: sexually assaults your spouse or child. 376 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: Look, a lot of the viewers know I used to 377 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 1: work for the NRA. Personal protection is somewhat of my hobby. 378 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes fleeing is a great idea. Sometimes standing your ground 379 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: is a great idea. Every situation is different. To not 380 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: take those tools away from the law abiding citizens trying 381 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: to defend himself and pssibly his family or the innocent. 382 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: I saw in this bill, Jonathan, that another aspect of 383 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: this is I'm going to read it. When the person 384 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: uses more force than was reasonably necessary to defend against 385 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: the danger, that person could be charged with murder. So 386 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: I guess if I shoot them four times instead of 387 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: shooting them only once, then I could be charged with murder. Yeah. 388 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 9: I mean that's the problem is they're really helping criminals 389 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 9: and they're not helping an innocent person. Also, I really 390 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 9: believe Grant that they can't take away our guns, so 391 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,439 Speaker 9: now they want to take away our ability to use guns, 392 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 9: and so they're just trying to do whatever they can 393 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 9: to prevent people from protecting themselves with firearms. And you know, 394 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 9: it's a horrendous bill. You know, there was so much 395 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 9: backlash against the person who drafted the bill that he 396 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 9: went He tweeted and said that he didn't realize that 397 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 9: the language was the way the language is, which tells 398 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 9: you that this is an individual who's either lying telling 399 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 9: the truth, or is drafting bills and it doesn't even 400 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,199 Speaker 9: read them or understand them. And so you know, this 401 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 9: individual does not he has no common sense. He's not 402 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 9: an everyday person who has to deal with the crime 403 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 9: that we've had the last four or five years with 404 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 9: George Gaston ches aboudin Pam Price, you know, attacking California 405 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 9: and attacking the rights of innocent individuals. And so we 406 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,679 Speaker 9: have a high crime rate out here. We need to 407 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 9: defend ourselves. 408 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, we sure do. I could tell you from experience 409 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: in this business. This goes for Republicans and Democrats. He 410 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: didn't write this bill. Some anti gun lobbyist wrote this bill, 411 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: and he just put his name on it because he 412 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: thinks he's going to be a hero to take away 413 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: Second Amendment rights in California. And who knows they'd use 414 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: this as a model of spread at someplace else. Jonathan 415 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: to Tommy, I'm so grateful that you're in the LA 416 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: County District Attorney's office. There's some changes inside that off 417 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: as much needed changes, and the people of California are 418 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: safe for now because of it. I appreciate you, buddy, 419 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. 420 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 9: Thank you so much for having me. 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