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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of Iheartradioar Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing all right today?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? How are you doing to?

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty good. I got it on my checkered pants,

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Speaker 4: so I feel happy.

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Speaker 2: I like this now. So each those aren't like clear checkerboard.

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Speaker 4: No, no, I just used it was actually a tablecloth

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Speaker 4: for like a picnic.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just had somebody sew them into pants.

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Speaker 2: So and then you cut some of the hole.

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Speaker 3: That's why.

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Speaker 4: Yea, I opened up to air out because it was

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Speaker 4: like plastic really hot?

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Speaker 2: Are you sweating a lot?

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Speaker 3: And then but the grip is nice, okay, good.

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Speaker 2: Aside from your pants. Do you know it's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 4: TV shows, right, Elizabeth, I love you see something You're

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Speaker 4: like that thing's still on. There's this show called The

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Speaker 4: Curse of Oak Island.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I see it on. It's something that I'm like,

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Speaker 2: there are so many shows on those kind of channels,

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Speaker 2: like The Amazing. Then and then you watch like five

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Speaker 2: minutes of an episode.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there's like five minutes contents stretched out over

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Speaker 4: twenty two minutes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so that okay, I always see it on

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Speaker 2: the channel.

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Speaker 3: Guys, they still haven't found the gold.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's they're on this island trying to find gold

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Speaker 4: and they've been looking and I got big news. They're

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Speaker 4: very optimistic that this they're really getting close.

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Speaker 3: They've got new clues. Elizabeth on season twelve that they're

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Speaker 3: gone at this time.

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Speaker 6: Can't.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, how do you get people back past season

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Speaker 3: eight nine? A Season twelve?

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Speaker 2: Is that the one where they like they have like

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Speaker 2: slew machines.

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Speaker 4: You know, you know the Curse of Oak Islands to

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Speaker 4: the island, and they think that there's like all this

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Speaker 4: gold buried on there and some people tried digging this

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Speaker 4: money pit and then they got flooded with seawater and

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Speaker 4: they've been trying to ever since then, trying to find ways,

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Speaker 4: but they're worried every time that they were going to

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Speaker 4: add more seawater and they'll never get to the buried

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Speaker 4: gold treasure.

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Speaker 2: They're always going over like all these like topographical man.

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Speaker 4: And there's like a where like I think it's like

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Speaker 4: seven or eight people have to die before the gold

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Speaker 4: old is discovered, and I think six people have died

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Speaker 4: so far, and there's two brothers.

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Speaker 3: Oh, so they would fit the bill really legend. So

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Speaker 3: maybe season thirteen, We're gonna get.

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Speaker 2: A real surprise decail.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I couldn't believe it. Season twelve, what

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Speaker 3: is this Gray's and Natomy over here? Sbu So yeah,

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Speaker 3: there you go, ridiculous.

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Speaker 7: Huh wow, that is ridiculous twelve dumbfounded? Uh do you

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Speaker 7: want to know what else is ridiculous? Stretching those things

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Speaker 7: out being saved by snoring?

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Speaker 3: Ooh what.

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Speaker 2: This is ridiculous? Crime A podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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Speaker 2: heists and cons. It's all we ninety nine percent murder

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Speaker 2: free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Damn right, I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm also really excited to tell you about this crime.

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Speaker 2: Truly ridiculous, like floating over your ages ridiculous. We have

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Speaker 2: bumbling criminals, violently rich victim.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 2: And the main reporting is by the magazine Garden and Gun.

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Speaker 3: Yes, like I'm over here doing the Vince McMahon meme.

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Speaker 2: The name sounds so unhinged, Garden and Gun.

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Speaker 3: It does sound like a joke.

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Speaker 2: But if you're if you're from or have lived in

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Speaker 2: the South, you know it's an amazing yeah, incredible long

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Speaker 2: form journalism essays by some of the greatest living Southern writers.

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Speaker 2: Some of the profiles they do have like really over

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Speaker 2: the top pros, but like it works. It's very iced

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Speaker 2: tea on the veranda with well read folks who keep

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Speaker 2: their politics to themselves and love a hattie story about

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Speaker 2: their own family history that somehow also ties in with

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Speaker 2: a local small town scandal.

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Speaker 4: Totally maybe also have like a Fuckner quote tucked away

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Speaker 4: they pull out from time to.

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Speaker 2: Time, like elevated Southern cuisine and monograms silverware going back

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Speaker 2: in the like generations, but also like you bring your

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Speaker 2: own koozy for beers taken out of a cooler in

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Speaker 2: the back of a Ford expedition at like the fourth

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Speaker 2: of July. Even love or super Brooks Brothers broadcloth shirts

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Speaker 2: and like Lily Pulitzer sleeveless shifts. But also you thought

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Speaker 2: about this well worn flip flops from a gas station

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Speaker 2: by the beach.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I can feel the sunburns.

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Speaker 2: Garden and gun. So, like I said, most of the

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Speaker 2: available reporting on the crime I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 2: about comes from a really great garden and gun piece. Nice,

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Speaker 2: and there's also some stuff from like local Birmingham, Alabama

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Speaker 2: news stuff, But no matter the source, it's beautifully ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And to take a page from your book of tracing

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Speaker 2: everything in the West back to Memmo the second, the

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Speaker 2: two time sultan of the Ottoman Empire in the fourteen hundreds.

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you like about fourteen fifty three.

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Speaker 2: Well, this crime took place in twenty twenty. I want

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Speaker 2: to take you back to nineteen forty four.

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Speaker 3: Okay, please do because.

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Speaker 2: That's when Elton Bryson Stephens senior.

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Speaker 3: Elton Bryson Stephens Senior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, son of a farmer in Clio, Alabama, now c

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Speaker 2: l Io. Yeah, and I think that's Clio, not Cleo. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know a Clio. Yeah, that's when he started his

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Speaker 2: own business, nineteen forty four. So he was always a

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Speaker 2: hard worker, this guy. As a boy, he'd get up

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Speaker 2: early milk the family cows bottle and sell the milk

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Speaker 2: before school. He sold a lot of stuff actually, like

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Speaker 2: he sold newspapers, suits, sandwiches, cloverine salve. What it's basically

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Speaker 2: like vasiline that has rectified turpentine oil in it, white

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Speaker 2: wax and perfume and it's for like.

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Speaker 5: Chapskin kind of different light jelly.

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Speaker 3: Oh, we've got an industrial oil that you put on your.

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Speaker 2: All this crazy stuff in it, Cloverine Stebs. He went

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Speaker 2: around selling it as a little kid.

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Speaker 3: Love the forties.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen twenty eight, he took his savings, which was

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five dollars. It's about twenty three

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Speaker 3: He's in nineteen twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 2: Twenty eight, so forty four he starts his own business.

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Speaker 2: But this is always a kid.

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Speaker 3: Okay. The twenties even makes more sense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he has just gotten out of high school. He

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Speaker 2: has one hundred and twenty five bucks, so that's like

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Speaker 2: twenty three hundred if we were walking around today. And

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Speaker 2: he goes off to college at Birmingham Southern College, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and that's a good chunk of change. But it wasn't

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Speaker 2: enough to cover all of his costs, No, not at all.

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Speaker 2: So he got a full time job as a salesman

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Speaker 2: in a local dry goods store. Okay, And he spent

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Speaker 2: his summers working for Butterick selling subscriptions to their dress

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Speaker 3: Yes, totally patterns, Yeah, totally, still have some.

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Speaker 2: Right do you have all in your dress Maks?

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Speaker 3: If it's old, Elizabeth, I have some of it.

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Speaker 2: So when he's in college. He and five buddies, like

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Speaker 2: they hitchhiked north to Michigan from Alabama to sell subscriptions

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Speaker 2: door to door all day long.

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Speaker 3: Like reverse snowbird high exactly.

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Speaker 2: Oh, they got to get out of the heat and humidity.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, good boy places to sell magazine.

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Speaker 2: Subscription the first year, this is what he said, quote,

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Speaker 2: I saved five hundred dollars and that's like several thousand today.

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Speaker 2: That meant I didn't have to work as much during

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Speaker 2: the school year so I could study more. This is

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Speaker 2: just industrious. Graduates from college goes to law school at

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Speaker 2: University of Alabama. He married his longtime sweetheart, Alice Varian Robinson.

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Speaker 2: They had four kids, including the one who made him

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Speaker 2: a senior, Elton B. Stevens Junior. Yes, so Elton Senior.

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Speaker 2: He's sold subscriptions all the way through law school.

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Speaker 3: Here he stays with it. He's making good money.

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Speaker 2: And he even hired other students to work for him.

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Speaker 2: And that included fellow Clio native George Wallace, future governor

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, George Wallace selling magazine subscriptions.

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Speaker 3: So he was the one driving the van. He's like, George,

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Speaker 2: So he gets out of law school and he finds

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Speaker 2: a week. Yeah, he's stuck with magazines. And he's like,

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Speaker 2: you know what, I'm just going to expand this empire.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen thirty seven, he bought into this franchise with Keystone

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Speaker 2: Reader's Service, and that's like this middleman between the subscribers

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Speaker 2: and the publishers, stuff like Saturday Evening Post, Ladies Home Journal.

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Speaker 3: This kiny toy doesn't sound like he belongs on this show.

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Speaker 2: Just he doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So he and his crew, they're selling subscriptions all over

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Speaker 2: the Southeast. They hit up an army base and World

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Speaker 2: War two is just kicking off. Business is booming. The

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Speaker 2: bases are a gold mine. They just focus on those.

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Speaker 3: I mean they need the reading material exactly.

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Speaker 2: I touch boys occupy. So he ditches the franchise, starts

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Speaker 2: his own business, Ebsco, Elton, Bryce and Stevens Company, and

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Speaker 2: he sold subscriptions to you know, Hawk and subs all

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Speaker 2: over and he noticed that they're like he's at the

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Speaker 2: we'll just buy the magazines to come to like, you know,

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Speaker 2: this common area. But they didn't have magazine racks at

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Speaker 2: the bases. So he started another company, Vulcan Industries, to

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Speaker 2: manufacture and distribute the magazine racks. Then he expands into

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Speaker 2: publishing and binding. He gets a printing plant, going oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: So then he's like on these bases and he's you know,

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Speaker 2: selling all this stuff. He notices that as the war

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Speaker 2: So you know, they're they're doing boot camp or whatever

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Speaker 2: And they also as they're built there, you know, the

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Speaker 2: draft kicks in and we're getting more and more people

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Speaker 2: in officers clubs are popping. Oh yes, and they need furnishing.

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Speaker 2: There's there's just you know, so he expands out into

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Speaker 2: the production and distribution of carpeting and drapery for the

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Speaker 2: officers clubs. Guys National Billiard America's oldest pool table table.

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Speaker 3: Okay, and so then definitely some club.

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Speaker 2: Right, So he's just like, he looks around, he sees

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Speaker 2: a hole. He's like, I'm a fill it. The growth

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Speaker 2: continues after the war. The company is still in business today.

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Speaker 2: It handles stuff quote from investments to library periodicals, plastic fishing,

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Speaker 2: lures to steal joists, indoor advertising to realty. That's according

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Speaker 2: to the Alabama Business Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: If you buy it, we'll sell it.

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Speaker 2: Hepsco they do. They sell everywhere in the US. They

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Speaker 2: have operations all over the world. And so in nineteen

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Speaker 2: eighty one, when Elton Senior, he's seventy years old, he

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Speaker 2: gets into finance. And so he at this time he's retired,

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Speaker 2: he's turned the rate.

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Speaker 4: He's just thinking about because he's at the retirement age.

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Speaker 2: War, right, And Charles is like, that's great for you.

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Speaker 3: Let's go each other.

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Speaker 2: And this was of course super fun, so not not

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Speaker 2: quote he has always had a Dionysian lean toward party,

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Speaker 2: Your buddy invented paintball. Yeah, so we know the players.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to the crime.

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Speaker 3: Please.

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Speaker 2: It's September twenty twenty. Elton's renting a mansion in Birmingham, Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, George, though he was also like, he had this

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Speaker 2: Sometime around two am on September eleventh, twenty twenty, someone

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Speaker 2: So as they walk through the house, Matthew and Tabitha,

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Speaker 2: ridiculous takeaway? Now? Okay? So they drive the car home.

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Speaker 2: By now it's seven. They went back to Elton's house.

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Speaker 2: Why not get a school Dad's truck is there. So

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Speaker 2: coolers are expensive, dude, Yes they did. So they know

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Speaker 2: you in my house?

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00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 5: Sir?

438
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 2: This is Elton. What what are you doing here? You

439
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,399
Speaker 2: scared me? What are you doing here? Sir? What are

440
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: you doing here? Excuse me? What do you mean? Are

441
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,479
Speaker 2: you supposed to be here? Yes? I live here. I

442
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: rent this house. No, sir, I just bought this house

443
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 2: off the market. I bought this house and everything in

444
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: it two months ago. No, you didn't. So Matthew seems

445
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 2: to be trying to get Elton super disoriented. He comes

446
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: in hot. He's like, I just bought this house. Get out?

447
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,719
Speaker 2: Who are you boo? Right? He goes harder. At this point,

448
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 2: Matthew asks Elton to see some credentials.

449
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 3: Good, good, yes, no, no, no, Matthew, I flipped it.

450
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 2: Wish Elton?

451
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 3: Are you so expecting Elton.

452
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 2: To He's like, look, man, I brought my family here

453
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: to show them our new house. So Elton's confused, as

454
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: any of us would be. Let me continue with my

455
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 2: dramatic interpretations. So do you want me to leave? I

456
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 2: would like to get in my current leave please? No,

457
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,200
Speaker 2: we got to figure out why the hell I'm out

458
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 2: of whole house here? Is this a robbery? Absolutely not, sir,

459
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 2: a robbery? Do I look like a robber.

460
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: Yes, I do.

461
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 2: No, you don't look like a robber. I don't didn't

462
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 2: mean that. Can we go into the living room? Please?

463
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: Are you going to be copathetic in front of my family?

464
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna act real correct in front of my fiance

465
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: and her kids. Right. If you make them feel out

466
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,199
Speaker 2: of place or something like that, I will hurt you.

467
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 2: Do what because I have no problem with you meeting

468
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,360
Speaker 2: my family as long as you act correct. But there's

469
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: a reason I'm here.

470
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 8: What.

471
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So this is when Matthew takes Elton's phone, puts

472
00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: it in his pocket, and here's the thing that's snore lab.

473
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: It's an app on Elton's phone and it monitors his

474
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 2: snoring and such by recording him. Oh of course it

475
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: means that the whole exchange was recorded, and Matthew has

476
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 2: no idea. In fact, it just keeps recording, shoves the

477
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 2: phone in his pocket. So they leave the bedroom, go

478
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 2: down to the living room. Matthew he keeps going hard

479
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: on the whole like I bought this house story.

480
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: What a weird angle, right?

481
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 2: Elton was like, he asks to use the bathroom and

482
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,840
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, okay, you go ahead, And so while

483
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,919
Speaker 2: in there, he does exactly what I would do in

484
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: that situation. He took TUSANIX. He comes out of the

485
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: bathroom and Matthews.

486
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 4: Like it, goes to his spare phone, which he is

487
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 4: neatly hidden in the bathroom.

488
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 2: He did what you're supposed to do, Tusanic and Matthew's like,

489
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm ready to make a deal. He

490
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: asks Elton if he has any other properties, and Elton's like, yeah,

491
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,280
Speaker 2: I have this new house being built in Birmingham, and

492
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 2: I also have a five hundred acre farm.

493
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 3: Dude, like I got property. Yeah.

494
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 2: And so Matthew and Tabitha are like, oh, the five

495
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 2: hundred acre farm, that's more our speed. I'll take it

496
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 2: and hold on. He tells him. He's like a deed

497
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: transfer takes a long time. It takes paperwork and lawyers

498
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: and such. And they're like, oh, okay, you just give

499
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: us the keys. So, like, having picked through all the

500
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 2: like bachelor's offerings in the fridge and the pantry, the

501
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 2: kids declare themselves hungry. They're like, we're starving.

502
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 3: Sure.

503
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 2: Elton offers the family some leftover chicken salad. This is

504
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: from Garden and Gun quote. Hell yeah, I want some

505
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: chicken salad, Matthew says, and he and Elton go into

506
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: the kitchen, digging into the chicken salad. Matthew says, you

507
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 2: got any crackers? Where are your crackers at? Don't forget

508
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: this is we have a transcript. So this is according

509
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: to Alabama dot Com quote. At one point Record State

510
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 2: Burke asked Stevens, how much life do you think you

511
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: have left?

512
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: Dear go.

513
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: Stevens replied ten years. Burke then said, I think you

514
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: got twenty more. I think you do good, healthy years,

515
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: being successful and whatever it is you may choose to

516
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: do after this, as long as you do it right.

517
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: What this guy's is everywhere, by far.

518
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 2: The weirdest home invasion robbery ever. So according to Garden

519
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: and Gun quote, you might well be wondering at this

520
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: point what did these people think they were doing? And

521
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: the only possible answer is, who knows. Whatever it was,

522
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: it might have been influenced by one of the several

523
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: illegal substances in which they were known to indulge. Ah,

524
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: So like duh, these got there, who knows what they're on?

525
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 4: So they're like they got like meth brain going and

526
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: they're sitting there thinking like, this is our big payday.

527
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: What we do do is just elder abuse this guy

528
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 4: and just signing some paperwork and getting his keys to

529
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 4: a five hundred acre ranch.

530
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 2: Whatever. There's just no logic. So Elton he's like, you know, kids,

531
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 2: you want to watch this. He's like, you know what,

532
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: I'll right you check.

533
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: Bring your kids to work for these guys.

534
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 2: Let me tee. I want on the job training for

535
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: the kids. He's like, I'll write you a check ten

536
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. Matthew is insulted. That's so low. How dare

537
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: you is yeah, So then they're like, you know what,

538
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: let's go somewhere else. Time to change locations. So, according

539
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: to Garden and Gun quote, when they leave the house,

540
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: he and Matthew in Matthew's black Chevrolet Tahoe, Tabitha and

541
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: the kids following them in Elton's pickup. Elton is understandably

542
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: sick with fear and determined to try and make no

543
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: mistakes in attempting to stay on the good side of

544
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: his as of now kidnappers. But for one large mistake,

545
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: he succeeds zaren Yes, close your eyes.

546
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 3: Oh you sucks past me.

547
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: I want you to picture it. You work at the

548
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: Full Moon Barbecue on Sixth Avenue South in Birmingham, Alabama.

549
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: The tagline for the restaurant is best little pork house

550
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 2: in Alabama. The place is a drive thru that gets

551
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: good business. You are, after all, right off Highway to

552
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: eighty the Elton be Stevens Expressway. Your shift start soon

553
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 2: and you're walking to work. You're just past the McDonald's

554
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 2: when you see a big Chevy Tahoe drive by slowly.

555
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: An older man begins to open the front passenger door

556
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: and lean out, but the driver grabs him back quickly

557
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 2: pop in some of the buttons on his shirt. The

558
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: driver yells something at the man, but you can't hear. It.

559
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: Looks like an adult son upset with his father. The

560
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 2: older man looks scared. You think about your grandpa and

561
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: how confused he got at the end of his life.

562
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: He tried to do stuff like jump out of a

563
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: moving car. The Chevy revs off, and you continue walking

564
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 2: to work, contemplating the weird cyclical nature of life. We

565
00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: are babies who need help, then we help babies, then

566
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 2: we become babies once again. Oh if we're lucky, and

567
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: our fears about mortality and finality make us lash out

568
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: at those we most want to protect a life. You

569
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: reach the restaurant, a small cinder block building, wash your hands,

570
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 2: put on your apron, and your headset. Make your way

571
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: to the drive through window. You greet coworkers as the

572
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 2: place gets ready for another busy day m barbing cars

573
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: are already lining up. You confirm an order. So that's

574
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: the love me tenders with the side of chow chow,

575
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: one open faced smoke pork on texas toast, an order,

576
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: a full moon riblets and deviled eggs, oh, and three

577
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: large sweet teas. Please pull around. A car pulls up

578
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 2: to order one chili cheese dog, large barbecue pork sandwich,

579
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: cried ochra and an orange soda, one Greek salad with

580
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: pulled chicken, and an unsweet tea. You got it. You

581
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 2: tell him, please pull around. You ring up the order

582
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: with the three sweet teas, and the next car pulls up,

583
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: the black Chevy Tahoe from earlier thirty three twenty five.

584
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: You tell him. The old man reaches out to pay

585
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: with a card before the driver can react. How sweet

586
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: of him you think he looks tired. This food will

587
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,239
Speaker 2: perk him up. Your betting you look at the car,

588
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 2: dos the machine process? Is it? ELK Bryson Stevens Junior.

589
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 2: H The name sounds familiar. You hand them back of

590
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: the car and the food and they drive away. Then

591
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: it hits you, that's the name of the highway just

592
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 2: a couple blocks over. Wow, you serve someone famous today

593
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: from full Moon Barbecue. They headed to the trailer in

594
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: red to.

595
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 3: He was expecting him to mouse something.

596
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: Like no, he okay, they legitimately, first of all, can

597
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: we talk about the beauty of drive through barbecue? And

598
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: why don't we have that here?

599
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: I in a dignified I don't know their menu.

600
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: I looked over that those were all menu.

601
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: I was practically ordering.

602
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: In street viewed the location anyway. So but no, he

603
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 2: he was apparently, oh no, no, let me get this

604
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: and like bought lunch. They were so hungry. So they

605
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: go back to the trailer and rem lap. There are negotiations, conversations.

606
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,800
Speaker 2: Finally Elton's like, all right, let me let me break

607
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: it down to you. I have five hundred thousand dollars

608
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: in cash and I can wire it to you today.

609
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 2: And Matthew and Tabitha are like, that's incredible. We'll take

610
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 2: half of that.

611
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 5: It's like, why wouldn't you just take the whole thing.

612
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 5: They're not greedy, and you know what, he did pick

613
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 5: up lunch very very Let's let's stop for a minute

614
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 5: and listen to some ads commerce.

615
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: We love it. When we come back, we're going to

616
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: stop in at that little trailer and rem lap and

617
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: see how the bargaining goes.

618
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: I'll split these ads with you.

619
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: Excellent, all right, zaren. So there we are in the

620
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: trailer and rem lap deal. Elton's like, I'll give you

621
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,800
Speaker 2: half a million dollars. They're like, cut that in half,

622
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: and so they're shaking him down for two hundred and

623
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. He just wants to to be over

624
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 2: with me. It is so surreal and bizarre. So he

625
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 2: agrees to call his banker. He's like, okay, fine, you

626
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: drive a hard bargain. I'll give you half of what

627
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 2: I've offered. And his plan is to say that he's

628
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: buying some farm property from Tabitha and he needs an

629
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: immediate wire transfer. So this is according to Garden and

630
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: Gun quote. She gives him her account and routing numbers

631
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: and Elton makes the call on speakerphone as directed. The

632
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: banker tells him he'll send the request to the wiring

633
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 2: department and that someone will call Elton back in an

634
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: hour or so, maybe more. Once the transfer is completed.

635
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: He asked what number he should call. Elton looks at Tabitha,

636
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: who motions to her phone on this number I'm calling

637
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: you from, he tells the banker. Here they are now,

638
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: the three of them, with a deal more or less

639
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: straight between them for the first time all day, except

640
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: for one important detail. You're going to take me home

641
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: as soon as the money's in the account, right, Elton asks,

642
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: and Matthew says, yes, they'll take him home. Then shake

643
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,719
Speaker 2: on it, Elton says, And they do. And so then

644
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 2: they wait. Yeah, they wait, and then and they wait,

645
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: and you know, it takes a while apparently for these transform, right,

646
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: So they didn't just sit in silence. Again from this

647
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 2: Beautiful Garden and Gun article quote, the world as experienced

648
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: by a particular animal, its distinctive perceived universe is called

649
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 2: by ethologists that animal's umvelt. It is hard to imagine

650
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: two men with less similar umveldts than Matthew amos Burke

651
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 2: and Elton B. Stevens Junior. But I believe that while

652
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 2: on the trailer deck, Elton sensed on some pressing primordial

653
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: level that the more he could bond his umveldt to Matthews,

654
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 2: the better his chances of survival. So over the next

655
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 2: two hours, Elton brilliantly directs the conversation into the lingua

656
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: franca of the Deep South, cars, hunting, and fishing. The

657
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 2: three of them sit there talking those subjects from a stool,

658
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: a wheelchair, and a truck tire as comfortably as three

659
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 2: hog farmers at the end of a long work day. Occasionally,

660
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: the undeniable horror of this situation surfaces in Elton, and

661
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 2: once it takes voice. You're not gonna sex traffic me,

662
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 2: are you No, You're too old and ugly. Matthew reassures him. Ah, baby,

663
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: Tabitha says he's not that bad.

664
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 4: Wow, I mean, Tabitha, take a scoop. It's also I

665
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 4: thought it was interesting they left out one thing. I

666
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 4: thought that they would have been a topic of conversation.

667
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: They nailed it. I mean, yeah, every single one is correct,

668
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: but Alabama football right in Alabama. I mean, you can

669
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 4: always talk Alabama football, Timber.

670
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly interesting that they yeah, but.

671
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: Otherwise spot on than I do.

672
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 4: Like, if nervous you don't want to talk to somebody,

673
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: bring up any one of those and you can go

674
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: for a while.

675
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 2: So Elton. One other thing they talked about. Elton wants

676
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 2: to know, like, what are you going to do with

677
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: this money?

678
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 3: You're so desperate I would be curious to.

679
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: Tabitha shows him a picture of a house. It's a white,

680
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 2: two story house, five bedrooms. It's not far from where

681
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: they're sitting.

682
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: We want to burn it down?

683
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 2: Well, no, there's lots of land. Tabitha is like, this

684
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: is our dream house. And remember Elton, he was in

685
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: real estate. He was like the director, Oh yeah, he asks, okay,

686
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: so what are the owners asking for it? That's asking

687
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 2: price in the business, two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

688
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 2: She tells him, well, that's all wean, that's why, that's

689
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 2: all we need. We'll be able to buy it outright. No, No,

690
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: he's like, don't pay the asking and certainly certainly don't

691
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: pay cash. He's like, look, go and offer one hundred

692
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: and ninety and they'll take it, maybe a little more,

693
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: but then you put twenty percent down and then get

694
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: a mortgage, like this is ridiculous, don't pay all. So

695
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: he picks up Tabitha's phone and like taps away on

696
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: the calculator mortgage, home insurance, property tax. He's like, you're

697
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: looking at like seven hundred a month. This come on

698
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 2: and so they're they're stunned by his and they're so

699
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: thankful for the advice. Matthew tells Elton, like, you know

700
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: the reason why they love that house. They want to

701
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: get married in that house. And you know what he says,

702
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: We want you to come to the wedding. And here's

703
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: Tabitha's line.

704
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: Would you walk Tabitha down?

705
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: This is well no, this is what Tabitha says. Yeah,

706
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 2: we want you to be a pall bearer, Like I

707
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: would have just lost my mind. I want her to

708
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,840
Speaker 2: be my Paul bearer. So the money, I know, that's important.

709
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 3: Ceremonial events them.

710
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: The wedding, Paul Barrel.

711
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: Wedding there is.

712
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: Well, when grandma passed, we just saved money, and then

713
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 4: Uncle Kleeve got married the same day.

714
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 2: Why waste money on the flowers? So the money eventually

715
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 2: comes through and the couple's good on their word. They

716
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 2: didn't sex traffic him. They took him home, but they

717
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: did tell him that they were going to kill him

718
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 2: if he went to the cops. And also they needed

719
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: to borrow his truck and he's like, you know what,

720
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: keep it. He's like, just keep it, and they're, oh, okay,

721
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: if you insist. But they they did have him sign

722
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 2: a bill of sale for ten dollars, like to keep

723
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: things on the up and up.

724
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 3: Of course, Yeah, get the story.

725
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Then Matthew gives out in the hug and hands him

726
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: back his phone. And by this time it's four in

727
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 2: the afternoon, so I don't think the sleep app had

728
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 2: been recording the whole time, but I think it got

729
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: at least the first four hours of the day. And

730
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: as soon as they're out of the driveway, Elton calls

731
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 2: his siblings and then he called as a strange wife.

732
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: He told each of them not to call the cops,

733
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 2: but he's like, you're never going to believe what happened.

734
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: The sister's like, good to his you know her word, Yeah,

735
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 2: I won't call him, sort of though. She called a

736
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 2: former FBI agent that she knew, and the former agent

737
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 2: called both the cops and the FBI. So the next

738
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: day September twelfth, twenty twenty, Birmingham police show up in Remlap.

739
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,720
Speaker 2: They found the address by looking at the location history

740
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: on his phone. The couple gets arrested. The trailers search.

741
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 2: The cops they immediately separated the couple when they got there,

742
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: and so they go they take him to be interviewed.

743
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 2: So Tabitha they bring her in. She tells detectives that

744
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 2: she used to have a job as a part time

745
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: made for Elton. That's why she went there just like

746
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 2: every now and then, and one time he violently sexually

747
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: assaulted her. Oh god, yeah, And she said that she

748
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: and Matthew went to the house to get revenge, but

749
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 2: then they chickened out when they got there, and Matthew

750
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 2: just told Elton that they were going to go to

751
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: the cops, and like Elton's like, no, no, don't go

752
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 2: to the cops. Here have all this stuff, plus this

753
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 2: truck and a quarter of a million dollars, just whatever

754
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: you do, don't go to the cops. Wow, said the cops.

755
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: That's a really intense story. Amazing. So they go to

756
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 2: the next room. Matthew, can you tell us what happened?

757
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: Of course, he said that he and Tabitha went to

758
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: see Elton, who happened to be her former sugar daddy,

759
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: and they're so excited to tell him that they're getting married.

760
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 2: They like want to share their good news. And Elton

761
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,760
Speaker 2: was so excited. He's like, here's two hundred and fifty

762
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: thousand dollars. It's an early wedding present. And because you know,

763
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, he knew about the dream house and

764
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: theirlone application had been denied, and he felt bad for them,

765
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: but also happy.

766
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure we wanted his former side piece to be happy.

767
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: You know, he just wants the best for her. And wow,

768
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: said the cops. That's a really intense story.

769
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 3: Now did the cops get to talk to the kids.

770
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think they went on to the cps.

771
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: So Matthew's like, yeah, that's super intense. And the cops

772
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: are like, hey, you want to hear something cool, And then,

773
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: in what was probably the greatest most boss move of

774
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 2: his professional life, one of the cops hit play on

775
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 2: the snore lab recording.

776
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: Oh man, yikes, so like Columbo would have lost.

777
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: A whole day recorded, and they play it for Matthew like, oh, really,

778
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: you want to stick to that story.

779
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 3: Do you want to amend it?

780
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 4: Maybe just slow here here, listen to this and then

781
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: think about it.

782
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: So Matthew is now facing both state and federal charges.

783
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: I mean, then the thing is we do need to

784
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: make clear they had never met before Matthew Tabitha. Yeah, no,

785
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: he was never Yeah, so it was just random. So

786
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: November of twenty big house. Yeah, they just looked at

787
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 2: a big house with fancy cars in the driveway, and

788
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: we're all right, let's go.

789
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 3: Let's go and start that guy.

790
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 2: They're just lucky that like he wasn't trigger happy exactly.

791
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: In Alabama going into a big rolling the dice.

792
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: So next year, November of twenty twenty one, his Matthew's

793
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:43,720
Speaker 2: public defender gets him a binding plea bargain in federal court.

794
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, he'll do seventeen years in federal prison

795
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 2: in exchange for dropping the state charges. And like having

796
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 2: taught in both a federal prison and a state.

797
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 3: Prison, Oh, you definitely want to go to just down

798
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 3: the road.

799
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: From each other. I would one take the federal Yes,

800
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: every time, nicer facilities, more services.

801
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: I've been in both federal and it may.

802
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Not be true in all states. But I'm guessing that

803
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: it's true with Gamma. Yeah. So after sentencing, they transferred

804
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,280
Speaker 2: Matthew back to Birmingham Jail with a federal detainer notice

805
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: and basically Matthew had to cool his heels until the

806
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: Feds could move them to an FCI. That's December twenty

807
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: twenty one. But like a lot of paperwork, the detainer

808
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: notice got lost. This is according to Alabama dot Com quote.

809
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: According to records, Burke had charges with the state which

810
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: were dismissed after a court appearance on Friday. At the

811
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: time of transfer from a neighboring agency, there was no

812
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: documentation left to notify jail personnel that Burke had been

813
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 2: sentenced by another court and was not to be released.

814
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: He was released because they don't know to keep him.

815
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: They're just like, what's doing no state charges? Okay bye?

816
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: So this is according to Garden and Gun quote at

817
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 2: large again, Matthew dyed his hair a bizarre shade of

818
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 2: blonde and quickly learned that very few of his friends

819
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: and relatives had much inclination to harbor him, So he

820
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: bounced around from motel to motel in various suburbs of Birmingham.

821
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: The man who eventually found him was a bald and

822
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: bearded born again private investigator named Odie Odin, who had

823
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 2: taken an interest in the case from the beginning. No

824
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: one had hired Odin to find the fugitive amateur, he

825
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 2: decided to do so anyway. Man one afternoon, seven days

826
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: after Matthew's release, Odin got a call from one of

827
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 2: his many sources around town, who gave him a phone number.

828
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: He traced the number to a Chevron station in Alabaster,

829
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: about thirty minutes south of Birmingham, so he took a

830
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: drive out there and sat in his car surveilling the station.

831
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: After a while, he saw Matthew walk out from behind

832
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 2: a dumpster where he was apparently living and go into

833
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 2: the station whose phone he had been using to try

834
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: and find anyone who might help him out. Odin called

835
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: the Alabaster police and within minutes twelve officers showed up

836
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: with shotguns, trapping Matthew inside the chevron. Odie Odin, I

837
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 2: loved a freelance nomad private eye, just doing it for

838
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: the people.

839
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 3: He's like a fifties TV show, right.

840
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I have to track him and see if

841
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: there's anything else. Yeah, So Matthew.

842
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: He's court comes from the odin Facebook.

843
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: Let's interview Odie odin Hell.

844
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, track him down.

845
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 2: Matthew's doing seventeen years right now at a Federal Correctional

846
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 2: Institute in Manchester, Kentucky, kidnapping, bank fraud, attempting conspiracy to

847
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: commit the offense of bank fraud. Tabitha got all the

848
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 2: same charges. She's doing twelve years at a women's FCI

849
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: Federal Correctional Institute in Aliceville, Alabama. In her original plea,

850
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: she said the whole thing was her idea and that

851
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: Matthew had nothing to do with it, but.

852
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 3: She wanted him to take care of the kids.

853
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 2: She wanted him to be like no, no, no, it

854
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 2: was and he didn't.

855
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: A double jeopardy situation? Is that her? What is their

856
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 3: see this like an n c I s.

857
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: That you were always like, wait, is that their plan?

858
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: So she took it back. She's like, actually, I take

859
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 2: it back, it was his. Actually all Matthews, saren, what's

860
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 2: your ridiculous takeaway?

861
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 4: Like it's it's it's very rare that you see somebody

862
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: who's just a living, walking, breathing Cohen Brothers movie.

863
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 3: Yes, but these two really just.

864
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 4: I would be curious to ask Ethan and Joel Cohen

865
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 4: like to read them this story ago. Was that like

866
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Speaker 4: a favorite dream for you? Was that kind of weird,

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Speaker 4: like an out of body experience.

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Speaker 3: You're like, my imagination's being read back to me because

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Speaker 3: that was mine? What about you?

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Speaker 2: I had thank you for asking. For the first time,

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Speaker 2: I had to stop myself from doing deep Odie odin

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Speaker 2: research because the problem is you see these names, like,

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Speaker 2: you know, the paintball inventor who wrote the article, don't

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Speaker 2: you hit that? You're like, oh, forget it, I gotta go.

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Speaker 2: And then the dairy, you know, mogul who owns the mansion.

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Speaker 2: It's just too much. And the characters are so good.

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Speaker 2: I'm so relieved that Elton is safe home.

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Speaker 3: I'm really knowing that out of all of them, nobody

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Speaker 3: really got hurt.

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Speaker 2: But also it's like, you, you know, he comes from money,

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Speaker 2: but I was really fascinated by the story of Ebsco.

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Speaker 2: That's this farmer's kid and he I think he married

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Speaker 2: into society. I think that that Elton c Elton Junior's

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Speaker 2: mom seemed to be kind of like I'm sure, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: So it was like that's why they got all this

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Speaker 2: coverage in the paper. But his guessing, aggressive sales, you know,

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Speaker 2: get them so far. Then you have this whole family dynasty.

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Speaker 2: But Elton Junior like the wild child. He never fought,

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Speaker 2: He never, you know, just.

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Speaker 4: Like it was a charming fellow trying to get along,

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Speaker 4: going down, going along the highway named after his dad,

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Speaker 4: being abducted.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, tries to jump out of the car at

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Speaker 2: the highway named after his dad's like the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: So I thought it was a classic Southern ridiculous crime

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Speaker 2: and I loved it. So, Dave, you know, what would

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Speaker 2: be a cherry on top is a talk bag.

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Speaker 6: Oh my god, I love you.

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Speaker 8: Hi.

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Speaker 6: I'm Hannah, and I was just re listening to your

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Speaker 6: Ruby Slippers Update episode and I got really excited as

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Speaker 6: a native born and raised Minnesota when you mentioned we

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Speaker 6: Let's Bakery. I was taken there all the time after

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Speaker 6: school by my grandmother and it was and I lost

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Speaker 6: one of my first seat there. So it's just kind

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Speaker 6: of fun to hear you guys talk about it. Keep

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Speaker 6: it up, you guys are really funny.

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Speaker 2: I love that grandmother, like losing your your first tooth

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Speaker 2: there that's like so foundational sensory. I love that, and

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Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of Minnesota, so that's true. I

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Speaker 2: love it. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to the Lake Lake State.

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Speaker 2: That's right, thousand, a million dances there you got exactly

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Speaker 2: and Pop Dylan, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Him too, Robert, Bobby Zimmerman.

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Speaker 2: Bobby zimzims what they did for us. Uh, that's it

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Speaker 2: for today. You can find us online at ridiculous Crime

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