1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: What's up everybody, DJ? Bucky back with you. Buck? How 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: you doing, man? Man, I'm good coming off a great 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: UH football game last night. The National Championship game was outstanding. UH, 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,160 Speaker 1: even though it was a bit of a defensive battle 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: that we had and enjoyed it though, I was like, 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: it was really exciting. It was exciting in a different 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: way because the tension was there, the game was tight 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. We got a chance to see 10 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: some plays. We got a chance to see some big 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 1: time players. UM. And that's what you want to see 12 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: in those moments. UH. That's the part of the bowl season, 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: in the playoff that is in evaluated. You like to 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: see how guys performing these big moments. And I think 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: there was a lot to take away from that game 16 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, And I look from a scouting standpoint, 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: it's it doesn't get better than that, because there that's 18 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 1: Apple's apples. That was an NFL game. That was that 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: was NFL players everywhere. And if you can play and 20 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: perform in that game and that against that group, then 21 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, this NFL dude, man, especially you know 22 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: matching the physicality there in the trench as those are. 23 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that was fun to watch and it's easy 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: scouting when you when you watch it, Yeah, easy set. 25 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: But I think DJ, you're like me, UM team builder 26 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: is always fascinated by how teams are built, regardless of 27 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: the sport. But it's basketball, baseball, hockey, whatever it is. 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: But watching that game, I just found myself fascinated by 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: watching these two teams and two teams that appear to 30 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: be hit and shoulders above the competition this year. And 31 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: the first thing that stood out, and we've talked about 32 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: it just to shere, size, speed and athleticism of both 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: teams body types. I mean, just look, man, there was 34 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: there was a time where they had an ends on 35 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: shot and you're facing George's defense and all those guys 36 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: are standing up at the line of scrimmage and you're 37 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 1: just like mine, goodness, Like, tell me about getting off 38 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: the bus, big team, big physical UM team, and just 39 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: how fast they were. And I think the other thing 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: that stood up in it, it always kind of stands 41 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: out to me in these games. It's the speed and 42 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: the physicality like in those games and watching the playoff games, 43 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: you're not gonna play trick um finesse football like you 44 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: have to. I'm not gonna you know you're not. You're 45 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: not going to um like smoking mirrors your way to 46 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: a national title. Like you have to be able to 47 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: play big boy football. You have to be able to 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: have uh, the ability to control the trenches on both sides. 49 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: You have to be able to hit people with force. 50 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: You have to be able to tackle on the perimeter. 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: I was really impressed with that, and I think for 52 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: one of the few times and I thought it was 53 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: telling in Savings handshake with h. Kirby Smart, you just talk, hey, man, 54 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: you keep my telling the fourth quarter there you don't 55 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: see you don't see a physical man handling Obama like that. 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: And so to me, I was like, yeah, whoever you are, 57 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: whatever team you're building, you have to build with an 58 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: eye towards both of those teams. And if you're not 59 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 1: building where you're committing to getting big guy, big dominant 60 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: guys in the trenches that look like those teams, it's 61 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: gonna be hard in these one and done propositions to 62 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: deal with the team that has that. UM has that 63 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: and on on the ross you can't deal with it. 64 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: So here was a moment to me that I kind 65 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: of I just kind of marked down. It will be 66 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: something we'll talk about in the run up to the draft, 67 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: But this to me was a sign individually of two players, 68 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: but maybe more from a holistic standpoint of a program. 69 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: If you you know, they talked about it, I think 70 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: on the broadcast. But they're down the red zone George's defense, 71 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: and they've got a linebacker who's gonna be probably a 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: third round pick, who can really run the Channing tendal, 73 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: and he busts the coverage and na Kobe Dean has 74 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: to cover it up. He goes over there and makes 75 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: a play and it's incompletion and the Kobe Dean jumps 76 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: Tindal after the play. He gets right in his face 77 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: and he's screaming at him, um, And I'm like, okay, 78 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: that's one thing he shows you kind of the accountability 79 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: of the leadership tendal standpoint. He took it. He didn't 80 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: he didn't push him back, he didn't fight, he didn't 81 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: have some big ego. It's like, hey, he made a mistake. 82 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: He took the instruction and it wasn't Maybe it was 83 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: an extrese A couple of plays later he makes a 84 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: huge play. Tendle makes a huge play and the Kobe 85 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: Dean's first over there to dap him up and love 86 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: him up. And I thought, you know what, that shows 87 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: you a culture that they have there, of leadership, of respect, 88 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: of accountability. Uh. I mean it was all kind of 89 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: encompassed on those two plays. For me, Yeah, take it 90 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: even um beyond that. After the game, Kirby Smart was 91 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the loss, and they were asking 92 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 1: how did you get them ready after the loss? And 93 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: he had said right after the game, like, hey, sometimes 94 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: all loss allows you to refocus, reset you. Now I 95 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: can kind of hone in on the warts that you 96 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: have and kind of make it all better. But then 97 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: the players talked about the conditioning because they did get 98 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: gas in the SEC title game and how they did 99 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: a little extra extra film, extra work in those things. 100 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: And to me, both teams, ideally, in a team game, 101 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: you have to have three things commitment, accountability, and trust 102 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: and DJ the things that you pointed out, the things 103 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: that I'm talking to the amendment level, there's being committed 104 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: to do the extra stuff that's necessary to win games. 105 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: The accountability is not just players and coaches being accountable 106 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: to one another. But it's the player of the player accountability. 107 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: That's when your team goes to the next level. And 108 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: if you have people that are committed and accountable, then 109 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: you begin to build the trust. And the trust comes 110 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: from when you hear Stess and Bennett saying I knew 111 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 1: that I would not let my team lose after I 112 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,919 Speaker 1: messed it up because I knew that our defense would 113 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: hold it down and I needed to make that that trust, 114 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: that bond, that connectivity really matters. And I think when 115 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: we're looking at these teams and if you're building a 116 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: team or whatever, commitment, accountability, and trust, those things, those 117 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: principles always relate and they're always president championship team. And 118 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: you start with the talent, right you gotta have the talent, 119 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: and then there's a lot of teams with talent, but 120 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: those are the things that kind of separate those talented teams. 121 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: And that was what a fun game though, man, I 122 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I know somebody else who enjoyed it, as 123 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: Joel Klatt are good buddy over at Fox Sports, who 124 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: is the UH color analysts on their number one team 125 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: there with Gus Johnson, has seen you know, just so 126 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: many great games this year. Um, and really one of 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: the one of the best in college football. Discussing this stuff, 128 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: he had a broadcast. I know you've got a chance 129 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: to see the alternative broadcast last night. UM, so we're 130 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: gonna have bring in Joel here to visit with us 131 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: about everything he saw in that game. See if we 132 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: see things similarly. So we're gonna bring in Joel Clatt 133 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: right after this. All right, Buck, he's here, a good buddy, 134 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: Joel Clatt, Uh, Mr College Football over there at Fox Sports. 135 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: We love him. He's a good friend. And Joel, before 136 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: we even get to our conversation, this is something me 137 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 1: and Bucky just did before you came on. I want 138 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: to see how connected our brains are here, So pen 139 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: and paper, okay, I want you to write down, after 140 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: watching that championship game last night, who the three most 141 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: impressive players were on the field. So you can put, 142 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, Obama and then the number or and then 143 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,400 Speaker 1: put Georgia and then the number of numbers however you 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: however you slice that up, but the three most ppressive 145 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: players on that field last night. And I want to 146 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: see if we have any crossover. All right, Uh, And 147 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: I am I'm done. Okay, alright, So I don't know 148 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: if you guys can see mine' let's see if you 149 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: guys had any any if we have the same here 150 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: at all, can you see that? Uh? I see thirty 151 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: team game? Any crossover. So I've got the two addresses 152 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: from Alabama I thought were the best two players in 153 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: that game. I know they lost, but thirty one in 154 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: fifteen or freaks. And then I thought the tight end 155 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: from Georgia was on there. I've got thirty one as well. 156 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Will Anderson. I thought he was Listen. I he's pretty, 157 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: he's pretty amazing. He's a total freak. If he was 158 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: coming out in this draft class, I think he'd probably 159 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: be the number of one overall. He'd be the zero pick. 160 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: He'd be better than the number one pick. Yeah, we 161 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: don't even talk about to the next card already. I'm 162 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: with you. I like Dallas Turner. He's fifteen. I actually 163 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: put nine for Alabama because I thought young without weapons 164 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: on the outside, was throwing the throw before the pick 165 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: to in the game was unreal, like an unreal throw 166 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: and wide receiver does him no favors the detail, by 167 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: the way, and we'll get into this later I'm a bucky. 168 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: You said you watched my watch party last night. If 169 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting a game, I generally stayed pretty positive. When 170 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm just watching, I am grumpy, man. I get I 171 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: was mad at some of the execution. Lack of details 172 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: from the BAMA Wide receivers cost them. They're gonna watch 173 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: that film and puke those guys. Granted they were young, 174 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: and their guys aren't out there, but anyway, so I 175 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: had Bryce young because I thought he was standing up 176 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: even with the corner route, by the way, the corner 177 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: route that he put that literally he placed in the 178 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: hands while getting hit on the teeth on the guy 179 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: right through his hands and to lock through the tight 180 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: end that was. And then I've got I've got Nakobe 181 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: Dean for George. Okay, yeah, seventeen, that's good, all right, Buck, 182 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: did you have any Do you have any of the 183 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: same hair? What do you got? I had thirty one, 184 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: I had an astray by fifteen, I had number eight 185 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: forma yeah. And then you know, it's funny because like 186 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: dealing numbers, I'm always like, wait, what number, because all 187 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: I think about is there no, yeah, no, we're numbers scouts. 188 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: His numbers. We don't even figure out the names unfortunately 189 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: until we actually have to get on TV and we 190 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: we're talking with each other. Have you've seen seventeen from Georgia? Yeah? Man, 191 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: he's a player, right. And then it's funny because um 192 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: my eyes kept looking at dog on James Cook because 193 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 1: we had him at it, we had him at a 194 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: Nike event. He might not have been the greatest, like 195 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: in terms of being complicit with all the things they 196 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: just demanded. Man, dude has game, like Dalvin Cooks younger 197 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: brother like he has. He got some sauce on and 198 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: he helped him when he broke out. That was a 199 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: game change when he broke out on the long run. 200 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: I like the fact that he gives you a little 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: something in the passing game. Yeah, as a quarterback, great, 202 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: you can run between the tackles. You're a great runner, 203 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: Like you gotta help me in the passing game to 204 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: be a really impact player, and I think James does that. 205 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: So I like that a lot. Man. I was throwing 206 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: some serious shape that steps and been it for Like 207 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: I was texting you, I was on a text Tchanne 208 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: with you last night. I was crushing him in the 209 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: first half. I was glad I didn't have to be 210 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: public with that. It was right right. I'm just like, 211 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm crushing the kid. I'm like, when are we gonna 212 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: see J T. Daniels. Um, listen, Georgia one uh in 213 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: some degree and despite themselves, um, they did a lot 214 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: of things wrong, which you don't normally beat bambo when 215 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: you do that. So they're very they should be very thankful, 216 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: and they're fortunate that Jameis and Williams got hurt and 217 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: they didn't have MATCHI over there because I thought that 218 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: the game the game came down to the fact that 219 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: BAMA didn't have skill position players that were detail oriented late. 220 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: They just didn't have them, and I didn't love Bill 221 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: O'Brien's game plan. That's what I want to get to. 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: That's what I want to get to, because a just, dude, 223 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 1: you don't have your white outs, You've still got it. 224 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: You've got a gifted offensive line, You've got a two 225 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: pound fresh running back back there. Run the ball, dude, 226 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: just take to take the game out of the hands 227 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: of these young receivers. But not only that, guys, it's 228 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: because it felt like and I can't stand it when 229 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: play colors do this, they run to say they ran, 230 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: and then it gets it's and it's just like the 231 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 1: most basic zone right in the teeth of a great 232 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: defensive front. There's there's no misdirection, there's no formation movement there, 233 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: there's no ability to hold backsides. They just like that 234 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: and then they're like, well, we can't run against them, 235 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: and then they just start pitching all over the place. 236 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: That's what it feel like. Like second to last drive. 237 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: He runs on first down, goes nowhere, and then it's 238 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: just like, Okay, we're gonna take two deep shots, low 239 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: percentage throws without our best wide receivers and then pump 240 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the ball. I was like, what, like, what type of 241 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: a series is that he continues to struggle not to 242 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: just bash on Bill O'Brien, but if Steve Sarkisian is 243 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator from this is a different story because 244 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: he has moved into his formations. How many times are 245 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: we gonna see Alabama get inside the ten yard line 246 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: and struggled this year? It's why they lost the Texas 247 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: m It's why they struggled again last night having to 248 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: settle for some field goals. Why because he refuses to 249 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,199 Speaker 1: move the formation, get into bunch set, use picks against 250 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: man coverage, use leverage against man coverage. He just says, 251 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: like we're gonna drop back and like win one on one, 252 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: And that's not always gonna win when you're playing a 253 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: roster specifically as talented as Georgia. Don't forget though you 254 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: do have the their best offensive play of the night, 255 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: which is down the red zone. Just have your tight 256 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: end two hands shoved the defender. Uh, and we launched 257 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: him ten feet onto a back and turn around and 258 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: catch a touchdown with a no call. By the way 259 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: back twelve would have thrown. Yeah, in the PAC twelve, 260 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: there would have been seven penalty flags. You would there 261 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: would have been more flags than official on that play. 262 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: If that was the sideline official would have just launched 263 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: the no. But be and Bucky, we're talking about this, 264 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: Joel curious because I just I look at that game 265 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: last night and the combination of the size, speed of 266 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: those two teams and the depth in the trenches, and 267 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: I look at that and say, man, all these teams 268 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: that think they're right there, that were this close that 269 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: had to be an eye open and go, dude, we 270 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: are not in the same planet as those two teams 271 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: right now. Talked with the Ohio state folks about that 272 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: going back to last year and that championship game, because 273 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: they really felt like last year they had a chance. 274 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm granted they had some COVID issues pop up right 275 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: before the National Championship game. That's unfortunate, certainly, but it 276 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: wasn't close, no um and and I think to your point, 277 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: when you look at those semifinal games, they weren't even close, 278 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: I mean not even in the hemisphere. And Georgia took 279 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: Michigan's offensive line and man handled him. And Cincinnati decided 280 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: to die to slow death and then claim that they 281 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: went twelve rounds and just sat in their stack three 282 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: three five and never gave their corner, that them run 283 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: it down their throats. The game plan for for Cincinnati 284 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: made me throw up in my mouth a little bit. 285 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: I tell you what I like. I get hired like 286 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: this and no watch out. I'm like, coach is got 287 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: to watch out because I'm coming after. That's great, But 288 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: so then last night, really what did it come down to? 289 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: We can talk there. I mean, obviously, it's a championship games. 290 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: There are are so many storyline for guys there was 291 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: one team that was winning the line of scrimmage and 292 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: one team that wasn't. And what made it so difficult 293 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: on Alabama is that they could not win the line 294 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. Still, from the very first series, everything was 295 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 1: quick screens. They had a couple of nice series and 296 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: when they were going five three releases with their skill 297 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: position players and they would hit be robbed. Brian Robin's 298 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: gonna what looked like a checkdown, but he wasn't even 299 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: checking in protection. He was just pre release and then 300 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: they would dump it to him. And because you were 301 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: getting some two man and some some drop coverage from Georgia, 302 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 1: they had some success doing that. But it wasn't like 303 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: Bamo was able to just line up and play football. 304 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: You know, everything was quick trying to get the ball 305 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: out of their hands, or it was hey, Bryce, you're 306 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna take one and the teeth. You need to stand 307 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: in there and deliver a dime. And for the most 308 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: part he was able to do that. Yes, it's funny 309 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: that you mentioned a couple of things that I thought about. One, 310 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: I wondered what was Sarkiesian do against Georgia, And just 311 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 1: in terms of the shift, the motion, the display that 312 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: he put on last year in the National Championship game. 313 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: When you think about all the bills and whistles and 314 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: how you basically created easy opportunities for Davante Smith to 315 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: get open, I wondered what he would have done to 316 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: just get the plays the players and make the game 317 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: easier for Bryce Young. I felt like that was a 318 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: hard game from Bryce Young from the jump. It wasn't 319 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: a lot of layups baked into um the game plan. 320 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: And then the other part is just the relentless effort 321 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: in the speed of George's front Steven, I mean bothes, 322 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: but I don't look. I know Georgie have been dominated, 323 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: but they played so hard last night that I was like, 324 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: my gosh, I don't know who would stack up and 325 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: have a chance to beat a front line like this. 326 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: What were your thoughts on there? Front line? Well, they've 327 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: got you guys know the old adage, And I give 328 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: these types of stupid cliches all the time when i'm 329 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: different games. But I'm like, hey, you gotta run at 330 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: speed and you gotta run away from power. That's kind 331 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: of a go to. But what happens when you're looking 332 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: at a defense more powerful than you and faster than you. 333 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: It's like, holy cow, I don't know what to do. 334 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: That's what Michigan felt in the semifinal. That's what Alabama 335 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: ended up feeling last night. You can't just line up 336 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: and run at them because guys like Jordan Davis are 337 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: just too powerful. I mean they've got I was counting 338 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: their depth chard They've got like seven three pounders in 339 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: their depth on the defensive line. I'm like, I'm sorry, wait, 340 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: what we normally see maybe one three pounder as a 341 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: nose guard maybe, and then a bunch of guys that 342 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: are to eighty to nine if if they're lucky, they've 343 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: got seven three hundred pounders. So you can't run at them. 344 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: And then at the second level, I don't think that 345 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: there is a faster second level, a more active second 346 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: level than what they bring to the table with na 347 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: Kobe Dean, Um, listen to Kobe Dean was all over 348 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,440 Speaker 1: the all over the place, and all of them run 349 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: and tackle well in space, and that's a rare in 350 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,360 Speaker 1: college football. So you can't run at them. And now 351 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: you try to go side to side and they just 352 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: run you down and tap you for two yards and 353 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: you're like, holy cow. I don't know what I'm supposed 354 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: to do. But to your point, that's not when you 355 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 1: just clam up and you say, Okay, well we're just 356 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: gonna drop back and try to throw the ball down 357 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: the field. I think that you've got to try to 358 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: get creative, use the speed against them, use the fast 359 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: flow against them. We didn't see misdirection from Alabama for 360 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: the most part. We didn't see a quality screen game. 361 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: We saw a ton of two man um too high safeties, 362 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: man coverage underneath. Not one time did Bryce Young run 363 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the football. And a quarterback can run a defense out 364 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: of two man faster than anybody because there's no man 365 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: there for the quarterback and they were rushing for It's 366 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: not like they were dropping an end out and spying in. 367 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things from that game plan 368 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: left to be desired from the Bama perspective, But that 369 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: doesn't take away from the fact of what you're talking about, 370 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about that defense. I honestly, I don't 371 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: know what the I don't know what you would do. 372 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: You've got to be ultra talented, and once they lost Jamison, 373 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: they just didn't have it. Yeah, so he had four 374 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: catches for sixty five yards. He barely played into the 375 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: second quarter. He was on his way to having well 376 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: over two yards received, to have a huge game, and 377 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 1: I don't think Georgia had any answer for him. And 378 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: that's been why Alabama has been this new era. You know, 379 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: those first couple of national championships was more of the 380 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: run game Alabama, the defense, Alabama overwhelming you with that 381 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: size and power, and then kind of the Stark era 382 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: and kind of this these last few groups that they've had. 383 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: There's the reason why they've had all these first these 384 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: first round receivers. Man, they're absolutely stacked. So you get 385 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: some teams that might be able to you see a 386 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: Georgia every now and then, maybe it's an L s U. 387 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: Some of these teams might be able to match up physically, 388 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: but then Alabama's like, that's fine, now we can just 389 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: we're gonna wear you out with this premier talent out 390 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: here on the perimeter. And once with Michigan and with 391 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams gone, that was out of was out of 392 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: the plan. And I think, you know, you kind of 393 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: look at the teams that have, um, you know, been 394 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: able to get by Alabama. That's what made this Georgia 395 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: team kind of unique because you think about Burrow with 396 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson and Jamaar Chase. Think about when Old miss 397 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:03,479 Speaker 1: would upset them back in the day. It was, you know, 398 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: they're throwing it all over the place to all these 399 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: big talented receivers. It wasn't General a part of that group. Yeah, yeah, 400 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: you had, you had that group and then uh a 401 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: and m Um they had They had a good group 402 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 1: with man'zell run around making plays, but they were able 403 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: to kind of get them on the perimeter. This was 404 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: not I mean, Pickens had unbelievable catch, but for the 405 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: most part, I mean, this is a Georgia team that 406 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: you know, ran for a buck forty won the line 407 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: of screamage on both sides, and then Alabama didn't have 408 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: the answer to that out on the perimeter in this 409 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: game without those whiteouts. Yeah, and it just goes to 410 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: show you, um, the level that you have to recruit 411 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: and what your roster has to be to go and 412 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: be Alabama. I brought this up before um, at least 413 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: on social the since Nick won his first champage of 414 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: at Alabama. So that's the market Ingram group with Greg 415 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: mclroy um. Every national champion since in college football except 416 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 1: for one, has had to at some point be Alabama, 417 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: you know, so, and that was Florida State James Winton 418 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: seems didn't have to play Alabama, but they had to 419 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: beat Auburn, which beat Alabama with the kick six games. 420 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: So at some point, you know, to your to your point, 421 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 1: you've got to find a way to beat them, and 422 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: you're not gonna beat them without great players. And you 423 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 1: can say, like, well, Georgia didn't have a great quarterback. 424 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: But when you look at their roster and you start 425 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: like looking at the way they've recruited, let me give 426 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: you a quick stat here just on their defensive lan 427 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: a defensive loan and they're defensive too deep. They had 428 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: five players are excusing me, I'm sorry, nine players that 429 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 1: were recruited as five star players. Do you know how 430 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: many players are in the entire Pack twelve conference that 431 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: were recruited as five star players lesson nine? Nine? Wow? 432 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Like so, like, yes, Georgia earned this on the cruiting trail, 433 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: and and they didn't have the quarterback like a Brow 434 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 1: to go out there and put him a shoot out 435 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: against Alabama or Shawn Watson or Trevor Lawrence. Those are 436 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,719 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that have had to had to rise up 437 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,919 Speaker 1: and do it. But they had a dominant roster, in 438 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: particular at the line of scrimmage. The other team that 439 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: was able to take down Alabama in a big playoff 440 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: style format that didn't have a great quarterback was the 441 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: Cardel Jones Ohio State team, and yet they were dominant 442 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: at the line of the grimmage. You know, just kind 443 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: of like this this uh, this Georgia team. Remember what 444 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: Zeke did in that semifinal and went on. Michael Thomas 445 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: helped too in that in that group they had both 446 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: though they could line a scrimmage and beat you outside, 447 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: they could pound you with with and he went for 448 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: over two h yard and then they could sit there 449 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: and Cardel just started launching those balls. I remember in 450 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: the Big Big Ten Championship game because nicknamed him twelve 451 00:22:53,560 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Gage stuck around go ahead. But you know, um so 452 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,199 Speaker 1: Joe like so now like let's broadening out the scope 453 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: because you talked about George's recruiting. I heard your conversations 454 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: with Mario crystal Ball and those guys. So if we 455 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 1: have that Alabama and Georgia are like out there on 456 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 1: their own. Who are the next three or four teams 457 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: that are seriously going to be able to vide over 458 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: the next five years for titles? Just and going around 459 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: and seeing what you've seen, who are the teams? Did 460 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 1: you say, like, hey, keep an eye on these guys. 461 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: They're coming there close. I think that there's only two 462 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: and I don't know how close they are. But if 463 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: you're just going, are you saying just by recruiting, just 464 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: by recruiting, just by like when you look at their team, 465 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: when you when you do got by two, I've got 466 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: I think that's that's a really easy answer. It's only 467 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: two and and I don't know how close. But it's 468 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 1: a M and Ohio state teams that are recruiting at 469 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: that Not even Clemson is recruiting at the level right 470 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: now that that Georgia and Alabama are. But A and 471 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: M did it this year. Um, they're gonna have the 472 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 1: number in class and and sign even you know, statistically speaking, 473 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: a better class than Alabama just did last year. Um, 474 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: there's a guy. I'm telling you what I know. I'm 475 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 1: not gonna throw it out there because I don't know 476 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: what's legal and illegal anymore in the n i L. 477 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: But that s a m is using n i L 478 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: really well, whether they're doing it as a program or 479 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: the boosters are are well organized and good for them, right, Like, Listen, 480 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's this This new era is 481 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: is different in the schools that figure this out the 482 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: n i L issue and and find a way to 483 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: to load up in recruiting. That's the only way that 484 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: you're going to start lining up and win in national championships. 485 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: College football has created such a separation of haves and 486 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: have nots because our structure and our sport is totally broken. 487 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: And we've got these leaders and listen, I know them, 488 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: and they're all well meaning and they're all really smart guys. 489 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: But these commissioners are are hurting the sport right now 490 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: because they can't get on the same page about an 491 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 1: expanded playoff, which we desperately need so that we can 492 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: have some semblance of a ladder where the middle class 493 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: of college football can have the ability to get themselves 494 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: to a place where they have success and can define 495 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: themselves as successful. And we're arguing about automatic births and 496 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 1: bowl games and like, what are you guys doing right 497 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: now I'm telling you, I get bitter because they're arguing 498 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: about things that really don't matter in the grand scheme 499 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: of things and will come out in the wash and 500 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 1: at the detriment of things that if they are perpetuated 501 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: over the next two, three and four years, we're gonna 502 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 1: have such a separation like we've had over the last 503 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: five years that I don't know if we'll ever come 504 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: back from. All Right, the last one for me, Joel, 505 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: I want to get to this transfer portal. I know 506 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: there's a long discussion about whether you like it, you 507 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: don't like it, it's good, it's bad. Here's my here's 508 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: my question just from you know, take the analyst hat on, 509 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,440 Speaker 1: put your quarterback hat back on, locker room hat. How 510 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 1: challenging is it going to be? We saw Michigan State 511 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: pull it off and you around that team with so 512 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: many new faces. But to me, I think this is 513 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: kind of the new it's here, it's the new way. Uh, 514 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: the challenge chemistry wise of bringing in I mean not 515 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: new recruits. You're talking about some of these programs are 516 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: going to have forty fifty new players coming into their 517 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: program via you know, the high school kids and the 518 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: and the portal kids, How do you get that group 519 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: to come together chemistry wise and kind of ingrain into 520 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: your culture when you've got them coming in with so 521 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: many new guys every year. Yeah, I think you have 522 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: to narrow your focus of who you're focused on within 523 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: your program um. And and this is not a good thing, 524 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: but I think that this is the way that you 525 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: have to go. So I'm a big believer in any 526 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: group setting, but specifically in the locker room of kind 527 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: of the eight tin tin theory of group dynamics, which 528 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: is that the theory goes like this, You've got eighty 529 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: percent of people, uh in any group that are going 530 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: to follow the most vocal ten percent, and the two 531 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: ten percent are on each end of the spectrum. You've 532 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: got ten percent that are going to buy in and 533 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: be quality leaders. And you've got ten percent and you know, 534 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 1: forgiving for but this is how we used to tallow. 535 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: And you've got tim percent that are turds, and you've 536 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: got the leaders, and you've got the turds right, and 537 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: you've got to figure out which ten percent is gonna 538 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: win the eight And that's every locker room in America. 539 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: So rather than focusing on the eighty. I think that 540 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,360 Speaker 1: you've got to focus on the ten and make sure 541 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: that you've got a core group of of foundational players 542 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: that you recruited are not transfers, that are going to 543 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,360 Speaker 1: be the rock and foundation and cornerstone of your locker room. 544 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: And then once you get all these guys, so then 545 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: let's say you've got freshmen and transfers and everything and 546 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: they're in that percent, well, they're gonna have no other 547 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: option other than to follow that ten percent. So I 548 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 1: think that from a coaching perspective, you've got narrow your 549 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: focus down on who are the foundational players within your 550 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: system that buy into what you're selling and can be 551 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: positive influences within the locker room, because if you don't 552 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: have that ten percent, your locker room is gonna be 553 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: totally chaotic. You know, you last thing about the transfer portal, 554 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: what do we do now with all the high schoolers, 555 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: because every coach is now talking about grad transfers to 556 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: portal and then high schoolers are kind of like lumped 557 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: in the back. What are we going to do about 558 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: the high school guys? And how is that going to 559 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: impact the other teams that are not the elites, Whether 560 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 1: those guys. Those guys have to go somewhere where those 561 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: guys will end up. Well, I don't know. Um, I 562 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: think that that's that remains to be seen. I personally believe, 563 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know if this fixes or even answers 564 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,479 Speaker 1: your question. Um, I'm a big believer that we need 565 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: some structure as it relates to the calendar, like when 566 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: are you signing transfer portal guys? When is that window? 567 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: Because to me, that's like NFL free agency. Well, we've 568 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: got a NFL free agency and teams can have a 569 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: picture of what their roster is gonna look like before 570 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: the draft and then the draft with in this analogy 571 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: be recruiting high school players. So I think that we 572 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: need to separate rather than it just all overlapping and 573 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: it's just a big mess of like, well, who's you know? 574 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: And it's now it's trying to find the chair on 575 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: the deck of the Titanic or or a spot on 576 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: one of the lifeboats, and you know that there's not 577 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: enough for everybody, so everyone is just running and trying 578 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: to grab a seat. Um. I think that we need 579 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: to really look and define the calendar of when is 580 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: the portal open, When can portal players sign, and then 581 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: when is recruiting open and when can recruits sign? And 582 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: I think what that will do is it will define 583 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: rosters and allow for a better opportunity for coaching staffs 584 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: to manage their rosters. But to get back to your point, 585 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: I think that the biggest unintended consequence that we're seeing 586 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: in the transfer portal is twofold a lack of opportunities 587 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: for high school players because those spots are being taken up. 588 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: And then to what we're also seeing is that players 589 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,880 Speaker 1: think that there's opportunities in the transfer portal, they give 590 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: up a scholarship and never get one pack because there's 591 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: no spot for him. So these are all problems that 592 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: we've got to think about and talk about and try 593 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: to fix. But I think one of the fixes will 594 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: be a calendar fix, providing some structure to the off 595 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: season in college football that allows for a more cohesive 596 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: and defined roster management period. Yeah. The visual I have 597 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: of that is, you know, the only old movies you 598 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: grew up watching, and to be like the train scene 599 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: where you're on one train and you're trying to jump 600 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: onto the other moving train, You're going to jump off 601 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: your train make sure that you have another train to 602 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: land on. Do not jump off the train and hope 603 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:50,959 Speaker 1: that you're going to catch the next train that comes by, 604 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 1: because there's no guarantees and there's no way. With the 605 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: sheer numbers of guys that are in that portal, there's 606 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: not enough spots for him. Man, there's a bunch of 607 00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: those kids are gonna get that. They're screwed. I feel 608 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: terrible for because they didn't didn't have a real opportunity 609 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: in front of them, and somebody convinced them, whether it's family, friends, 610 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: that another coach, but they don't have something to go to. 611 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: And that's what. Let me just add one one more 612 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: thing if you if you don't mind, I think what 613 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: we're also going to see. And I would encourage players 614 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: in high school to do this. And I know it's 615 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: tough because in the day in age of social media, 616 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: they are desperate to put on the hat, be recruited 617 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: old how great they are. But you know a lot 618 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: of times and we see it. Jordan Davis was a 619 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: three star player at Georgia. You know obviously the Sets 620 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: and Bennett stories and being told quite quite well. Now, 621 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter where you start it matters where 622 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: you finish in this whole game. So I would go 623 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: where the opportunity lies. You know, if you if you 624 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: have to go to a max school with your eye 625 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: on the fact that like, hey, I've got this one 626 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: time transfer in my pocket, I can stay and beat 627 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, or I can you know, increase my stock 628 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: from what it is right now and then go finish 629 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 1: at wherever. You know, wherever it is, I can go 630 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: into the back to well over the big ten and 631 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: and and do it that way. So I think that 632 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: that these players in high school need to not put 633 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: all their chips in who are they being recruited by 634 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: and who are they signing with. At some point, these 635 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: guys are gonna have to put their egos aside and 636 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: just go bet on themselves, find an opportunity and go 637 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: play because people are gonna find you. You can play. 638 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: You guys know this, and we talked about it. I 639 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: was smoothing. If you can play, someone will find you. 640 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: That's that's the nature of this. This is too big 641 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: of a business now in the NFL and in college, 642 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: if you can play, you will be found and you 643 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: will be given opportunities. Yeah, let me let me give 644 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: you an example that real quick. Here here's here's my 645 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 1: uh kind as I've gone through the offensive lineman this draft. 646 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: Here's some guys that I have top fifty grades on 647 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: in this class. I've got Trevor Penning from northern Iowa. 648 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: I've got Bernard Raymond from Central from Central Michigan. Um, 649 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: there's one from southern Utah this outside of my top fifty, 650 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: but he's probably gonna go in the fourth or fifth round. 651 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you find these guys everywhere. Manna quarterback position. 652 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna be talking about Malik Willis Liberty, so you 653 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: know we'll see what and shoot, I mean desn't retteran Cincinnati. 654 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: That's a mid major as well. So um, we'll see no. 655 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Because by the way, by the way, phenomenal job by 656 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: your dry cleaner. That is a firmly pressed shirt right 657 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: there is not gene material either. It looks like it 658 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: might be a gene material, but it's not. It's just go. 659 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 1: You can't hide money with a watch either. Cheese American 660 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: made man shinola. Look at that, look like this isn't 661 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: even complimentary. Did they give you that with your golf 662 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: club membership? Or was that separate, separate. Okay, okay, okay. 663 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how many Like the club is open 664 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 1: this morning, and they keep being like, hey, day after 665 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: the championship game, you gotta go do some hits in 666 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 1: the studio. I'm like, it's it's the off season. This 667 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,439 Speaker 1: is a golf Hey. The hardest working man in show 668 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: business right there. Uh, Joe, you're the best pial. Look 669 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: forward to catching up soon. We'll get into some of 670 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: these draft guys next time we visit. Yeah, I can't wait. 671 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be an industry draft for 672 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 1: for for real, for like football people that they want 673 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: to just talk about two quarterbacks. This is a great 674 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: draft because there's a ton of storylines wide receivers, I 675 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: think the running back group, the edge rusher group, the quarterbacks, 676 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: or their own story. Like, I can't wait to get 677 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: in into it with you guys, and hopefully we can 678 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: do this a few times talking about the prospects. That's 679 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 1: a working man's draft, much like Bucky myself. Not that 680 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: mahogany bookshelf, expensive watch press shirt wearing Joel plant that's right, 681 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: that's right. Look at that buffalo that paint. That's an original, 682 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: an original back there. I got something for you. Are 683 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: you ready? Okay? Idaho fall? Oh now we're talking baby. 684 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: That's why I mean Joel get along. That's why we 685 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: get along. But just don't tell him who you really 686 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: root for, Joel, because that broke my heart. I thought 687 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 1: me and Claid we're gonna have this connection. He played 688 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: for the Padres, come up to their system. I'm a 689 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: lifelong Padre fan. The former quarterback angle work together. He's 690 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: if he's a stinking Red Sox fan and like it 691 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: didn't work. Hey, hey, no hard feelings. You weren't good enough. 692 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: You know that's okay? Sorry, Um tell cal heard we 693 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: said hello, will you? It's what what's the line? It's 694 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: better to be a has been than it never ever was. Yeah, 695 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: that's there's something to be said. There something to be said. Hey, 696 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: you take pride in that. I put that on your 697 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: grave stone. I'll I'll have it. I'll have it up 698 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: next time. Uh, you're the best man. See Joel later, guys, 699 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: have a thanks. Great to catch up with Joel Buck. 700 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: I mean, just he's a great dude. You could tell him. 701 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: He gets uh. He can get a little bit ornery 702 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: though when he's when he's watching the game where he's 703 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: not on, not on the game call little feisty little Yeah, 704 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: he had it. I was alway was on this thing 705 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: with him last night. I did so not so he 706 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: was on with Kevin Thibodeau and t J heshman Zada. 707 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 1: They were present the majority of the time. I kind 708 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: of headed on. It's like second screen companions, so I'm 709 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: watching the game, but I got them on. And then 710 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: he had Mario crystal Ball pop in, and I wanted 711 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 1: to hear crystal Ball because I had a chance to 712 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: look at the interviews and here the reasoning behind why 713 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: he went to Miami and Oregon and those things or whatever. Um, 714 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: and so it was great, but now it was It 715 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: was a great It was a great watch, and it 716 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: was a great listen. And then Joel, I think has 717 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: a unique perspective because he is on the number one team, 718 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: he does number one broadcast team. He does see all 719 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: of these top players and top teams, and so being 720 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: able to talk about that will also give a little 721 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: insight in terms of how he thinks these guys will 722 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: be projected at the next level. Um, it was good 723 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: to hear. He obviously brought it down the interview we had. Yeah, 724 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: no doubt that was a fun, fun conversation with him, 725 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: and again a fun game. I don't know about you, 726 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: but I mean for me, Buck, especially with kind of 727 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: the Charger season coming to a close. We've got our 728 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: Amazon game this weekend, which is going to be the 729 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys and the Niners. You can find us hang out 730 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: with the Bucky Joey Taylor myself. Uh that is uh 731 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. I believe what is that four thirty East 732 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 1: coast or four thirty West coast. I think four thirty 733 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: East coast, one thirty our time pacifically. Okay, it's the 734 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: afternoon game, afternoon game because the Chiefs and the Steelers 735 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 1: are the night game. Okay, see, so we get a 736 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: chance to be in the middle of the afternoon. Yeah, 737 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be fun. So you can hang out with 738 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: us then. But what I'm getting at is kind of 739 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: with some of the responsibilities and duties kind of going 740 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: by the wayside. It's like, man, Okay, it's draft time. 741 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: It's time to uh to really crank and get rolling 742 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 1: on these dudes. Which is fun. Yeah, it is a 743 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: lot of fun, and you're right, Um, it's on the 744 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: turn the page and kind of begin to think about 745 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: like the draft, who's who was, what's what we we 746 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: we understand that we have a general understanding of who 747 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: is going to be in the draft, but now us 748 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: about as we talked about, like, hey, let's get him 749 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. We eventually begin to get him in 750 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 1: the in the right house and do those things. And 751 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: so we have a few months to kind of get 752 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: that process done, no doubt. Actually I think, uh, I've 753 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,399 Speaker 1: got a mock draft coming out in the next couple 754 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: of weeks, so that'll that'll kind of creak that up. 755 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: So that's it's right here, man. All Star season is 756 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: upon us. I did see the Jets and the Lions 757 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: are gonna be coaching the recent Senior Bowl, which would 758 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: be great. Um, see those guys down there. What an opportunity, man, 759 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: when you kind of read up on that of the 760 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,479 Speaker 1: teams that have coached in that game and you see 761 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: you know the Rams, you know coaching a Cooper Cup, 762 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: you see the forty Niners having a chance to coach 763 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,720 Speaker 1: at Deebo Samuel, and you end up getting steals because 764 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: you really get to know these kids. We gotta stand 765 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: into uh, DJ. The toughest thing in the draft process 766 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: is not evaluating the tape, but it's figuring toat have 767 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 1: the football character. Will you give me a full week 768 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: to um co you guy have been meetings be around 769 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 1: him away from the football part of it. Yeah, I 770 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: have a stronger sense on who he is and what 771 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: we potentially are bringing into the locker room. So it 772 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,399 Speaker 1: makes sense when we see these teams eventually draft guys 773 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,200 Speaker 1: that were in the game because they've been around him 774 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:17,800 Speaker 1: enough to do that. So yes, a terrific opportunity for 775 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 1: the Lions and the Jets to get a step ahead 776 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 1: on the competition, no doubt. Well those uh those games 777 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: are right around the corner. East West is on the 778 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: way as well, so looking forward to those. Um that's 779 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: gonna do it for say anything else you want to 780 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 1: add before we get out of here, Buck, No, I mean, 781 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 1: it's it's it's time. Just this weekend is gonna be great. 782 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: The playoffs are a different animal, and so now that 783 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,880 Speaker 1: we have uh eliminated all the other stuff and we 784 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: can focus in a game at a time too. That's 785 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 1: the other thing. We get to watch one game at 786 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: a time without having to flip the channels and all 787 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: that other stuff. Should be a ton of fun. Yeah, 788 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: we're gonna look at those games on the next episode here, 789 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: So Thursday we will have a kind of a preview. 790 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: Moved the sixth preview of all these NFL matchups as 791 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs get cranking this weekend. Cannot wait for that. 792 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys hanging with us again. Encourage you to 793 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcast if 794 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,400 Speaker 1: you could. We appreciate those. Thanks to the Bill for 795 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: doing a wonderful job producer and our pal David Singer 796 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,799 Speaker 1: forgetting us. The great guests, including our good friend uh 797 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: Almos said Jim Naggy. Huh, Joel Clapp, I got Senior 798 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: Bowl in my mind. Thanks again to Joel for joining us. 799 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: All right, we'll catch you next time right here on 800 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: Move the sticks.