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Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: The World's a Pigeon Podcasts. 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 4: I don't know what Tuesday show did to me, but 11 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: I can't. 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: Talk that doesn't sound creepy or weird. 13 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 2: You got a squeaky toy. 14 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Stay out my lawn. 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 4: I think I just have to stay low and you know, 16 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 4: do it this way. Actually got a text from from 17 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 4: mister Paul Parillo from UNC. Paul's down there. I think 18 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: he's doing a little advanced scouting. You know, he's beating 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 4: the bushes, talking to the cop coaches. 20 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 5: That's my slap, all right, like stay in your line 21 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 5: than talk about And of course we didn't. We didn't 22 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 5: officially hear from Fred, but we saw just a picture 23 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 5: tropics unknown. 24 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: Fred, Uh, I wonder if he noticed, like his toes 25 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: are in the bottom of it for all, like the 26 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 3: slack he gets about feet and stuff like. 27 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: Wing you know, successive. How much you girls drink water? 28 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: She goes to the bathroom like ten times a day. 29 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: How do you exist? 30 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,839 Speaker 6: Christmas? I'm just like I didn't even have a good Tamara's. 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: Birthday is Patriot's Unfiltered. 32 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 7: Presented by Toyota's official website. 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: For deals, buy a Toyota dot com. 34 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here 35 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: at Chollett's Stadium. We got a big show planned for you. 36 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: It's Paul, it's Alex and her hair. It's me later 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: on in the show. 38 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, you guys tell me, I don't know. 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 6: You look tremendous. 40 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 8: Thank you. 41 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Later on, little more hair, a little more tan. 42 00:01:58,920 --> 00:01:59,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, I did get a haircut. 43 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 8: Nice. You guys both looked him too, gees. 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, more of a burn from me and Fred. 45 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to set up the show if you don't mind. 46 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,239 Speaker 1: But later on in the show we'll have Deuce and 47 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: Evan live from the combine, so that's cool. And then 48 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: halftime of the show will be running an exclusive interview 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: that we had with Elliott Wolf. I know he did 50 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: a press conference today. We'll talk about that, but we 51 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: also had a chance to sit down with him one 52 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 1: on one, so we'll run that during the break. So 53 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 1: it's a big show. Penn State, Paul's here, Alex myself, 54 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm back from vacation. What was wrong with my Tamara 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: told me it was a boomerang? 56 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 3: So apparently gen Z thinks boomerangs are out. You're a 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: millennial or older if you still use boomerang. 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: It just said I had an option to do a gift, 59 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: so I did a gift. 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 8: I thought it was cool. 61 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 3: Did you notice your your little toes at the bottom. 62 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Were supposed to have that? Yeah? 63 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, Hey, I thought it was fine. 64 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 6: What's a boomerang? 65 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: It's when you, I guess, when you do a gift 66 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: and it kind of loops. 67 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 9: Oh that's a boomerang. Okay, And why did I have 68 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 9: to sit over here? I'm all out of sorts. First 69 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 9: of all, dou just didn't come and get me before 70 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 9: the show. 71 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: Yes, that threw me off, because no, because I figured, 72 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: I know it's just the three of us. I can 73 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 1: look right at you. 74 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 8: Oh okay, you guys are on like a little dinner date. 75 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's there because that I'm like, I'm like normal 76 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 9: on cheers, I sit there. 77 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: Well, it's you know, what do I do? 78 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 6: I sit there? 79 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, TV, like we got the triangle going. 80 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, all. 81 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 8: Right, Yeah, I was worried about you trying. 82 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 10: Yeah. 83 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 6: I got a text from Morell like what do you 84 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 6: want for lunch? And I was like, oh yeah, it's. 85 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: Sent out a search party. 86 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: I don't worry. 87 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 6: I didn't miss my lunch order. 88 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: Freddy, Okay, all right, So we got a lot to 89 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: talk about. I guess top of the show was Elliott Wolf. Right, Yeah, 90 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: this is new for the Patriots to actually have someone talk. 91 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 6: I think it's the first time since fourteen. 92 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Since fourteen, we actually had somebody talk at the combine 93 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: and Elliott Wolf was up and for all intents and purposes, 94 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: he's looking like the GM of the team in terms 95 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: of just you know, having the say on personnelity. Yes, 96 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: he says it's going to be a collaborative process. I 97 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: believe that to be true. But at the end of 98 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: the day, he said, somebody's going to make the pick, 99 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 1: and that will be me in no uncertain terms. So 100 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: there you go wild? What do you think, Paul? 101 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 9: I actually thought the press conference offered some interesting tidbits, okay, 102 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 9: and I felt like he was he seemed pretty comfortable. 103 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 9: I like the way he spoke. There were some things 104 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 9: I didn't like, but I was more focusing on the 105 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 9: things I did talking about wanting to weaponize the offense, 106 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 9: the need to weaponize the offense, which is obvious, but 107 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 9: still nice to hear that there's a recognition. And then 108 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 9: there were like a bunch of things that sort of like, 109 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 9: you know, aligned with my thoughts. So automatically, right, right, 110 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 9: so automatically when someone like someone agrees with you, you tell, 111 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 9: you know what, that guy, he's sharp, he knows what 112 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 9: he's talking about. Where do you say most of the 113 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 9: most of the starting quarterbacks come from Freddie Did you listen? 114 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: Top of the first? First round? Yeah? First round? 115 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, you can do it the other way as he 116 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 9: and he said, he goes you know, Dak Prescott, brock Purdy. 117 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 9: He named a couple of exceptions, but most of the 118 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 9: quarterbacks in the league are first round picks, which tells me, 119 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 9: reading between the lines, they are strongly interested in a quarterback. 120 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 9: He admitted that they will have plans to talk to 121 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 9: all three. 122 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 1: Or unless he's creating the fog of war and he 123 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: wants people to think that were. 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 6: No, I don't look at it that way at all. 125 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: He learned from the best. His father was very good. 126 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 6: At that, was he. 127 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you give me any miss him for no. 128 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: I remember back in the day when Parcels, you know, 129 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: he had a good relationship with Ron Wolf, and. 130 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 9: He actually told a story about being at the Combine 131 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 9: when he was ten years old. Yeah, and sitting standing 132 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 9: at the forty with Ron Wolf, Bill Parcells and Hal Davis. 133 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, and not bad when you're and I don't. 134 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: Know if it was him or it was said during Parcels, 135 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 1: but like Ron was a master of you know, deception. 136 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm going to take him at face value. I mean, 137 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 9: we can go and just say. 138 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 6: They're all lie. I don't think they all lie, but 139 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 6: I think that some. 140 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: Of this lie. That's a lie if it's a football If. 141 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 6: He doesn't think you need a quarterback in the first round, 142 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 6: and that's a lie. 143 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: It's a football thing. 144 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 9: So I think that that was something I found interesting. 145 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 9: One of the things I didn't like was, you know, 146 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 9: yet another shot at the previous regime like, you know, 147 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 9: less of a herd ass vibe in the building. I 148 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 9: just don't understand why we have to continue to beat 149 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 9: the crap out of a regime that brought us six 150 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 9: super Bowl titles and nothing but a you know, success 151 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 9: for twenty plus years, but we continue at every opportunity 152 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 9: to take a shot at that. 153 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 6: I didn't like that. 154 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird because it's like, that's the person that 155 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: this person hired you. This person gave you an opportunity, 156 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 3: and I mean, I don't know. 157 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 8: It doesn't sit well with me, but I'm soft. 158 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I was more. 159 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 9: There were a lot more things that I did like, 160 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 9: and I'll focus on those as opposed to the negative thread. 161 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 9: I madz talk about the negative. 162 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: But I thought it was interesting that he's coming out 163 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 1: and saying things like that, which tells me that it 164 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: was maybe more of a deal than we thought it was. 165 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 3: Well, it was really interesting too that those comments were 166 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: made coupled with yeah, we have a. 167 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 8: New mentality going into this draft. 168 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 3: It's less going to be fit and more just like 169 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 3: player skill, who's available. 170 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, I thought that was interesting too. I saw I 171 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 9: haven't tweeted that out, so I jumped on it. And 172 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 9: I don't know exactly what that means because I don't 173 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 9: know enough about scouting. 174 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: If you don't know what your offense is going to 175 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: be yet, there's no fits. 176 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 6: No, But I think it would. I think it makes it. 177 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 9: The point was, it makes it easier for the scouts 178 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 9: to sort of just say, this guy's the best. I 179 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 9: think this is the example used. This guy's the best, 180 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 9: this guy's the worst, and will slot these guys in. 181 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 9: There's been as opposed to this guy is the best. 182 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 6: He's not a bit, you know. 183 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: It seems like that prototypical patriot, like they're really starting 184 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: over from that. 185 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 8: It's like there's not going to be that that model anymore. 186 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: I got the same oppression Alex did. Yeah, I don't 187 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 6: and I like that. 188 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 9: Yeah, And again I don't know what the ins and 189 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 9: outs are because I'm not a scout. I don't know 190 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 9: exactly what the grading system is, but. 191 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: I do think and listen, we're nitpicking here. I'm sure 192 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: they're smart enough to know you can't just take anybody. 193 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: You know, if you if you think you're going to 194 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: run a certain type of defense, you need certain type 195 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: of players that can you know whether it's control gaps 196 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: or you know, if that's the type of defense you're 197 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: going to do, or if you're you know, we're not 198 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: going to be But if you're going to be a 199 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: West Coast offense, you need guys who can fit in 200 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: that system. So I get what they're saying. I like 201 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: it too. You know, let's not overthink the draft, but 202 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: there has to be a mix of, you know, the 203 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 1: right guys, not just the best guys, for sure. 204 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 9: And there was I just thought he was I thought 205 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 9: he was conversational. I thought he was comfortable and no filibusters. Yeah, 206 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 9: you know, just kind of you know, get the question 207 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 9: answered it. He was asked a lot of questions about 208 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 9: green Bay, which I wasn't overly interested in. Yeah, I 209 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 9: can understand there's probably you know, don't forget the whole 210 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 9: league is there. So there were probably green Bay people 211 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 9: talking to him a little bit about that kind of stuff, 212 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 9: And there were probably some local guys asking him about 213 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 9: his principles in green Bay, you know, the Packer way 214 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 9: or whatever they yeah, how they refer to it, but. 215 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 1: I think they asked him. And I didn't actually watch 216 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 1: the press contra doing other things, but I you know, 217 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: saw some of the points that people were making. You know, 218 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: they asked, what kind of team will the Patriots be? 219 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: And you know, what's the philosophy? And he said, you know, 220 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: it's going to be more of like a development like 221 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: you know. 222 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 6: That was the other thing I loved. 223 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 9: Now, we want to focus on young players and develop 224 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 9: them within Yeah, which is very much a green Bay tenant. Yeah, 225 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 9: they're not a huge f agency team green Bay. They 226 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 9: never have been. 227 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: Well, some people would say because they're cheap, but you know, 228 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: or you know, they haven't had the cash that other 229 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: teams have. 230 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 6: Well, I think the first thing is probably more accurate. 231 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and that's why they're cheap. 232 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 9: Yeah, but I like that philosophy because I don't think 233 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,359 Speaker 9: you can win doing it in free agency. 234 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 6: You can augment in free agency. 235 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: Now you must draft well in this league. 236 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 9: Well, draft whatever, but you need to keep your players 237 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,080 Speaker 9: and you need to maintain your young core. They haven't 238 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 9: done a good Like for as bad as the draft 239 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 9: has been the last say, eight ten years, the decisions 240 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 9: to let the draft picks that have worked go, which 241 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 9: is kind of all of them lately, I think it's 242 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 9: been just as bad. Like that's how you lose your 243 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 9: your solid middle class that this team has always sort 244 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 9: of been built. 245 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: It could also be an indication that they didn't like 246 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: the picks that they made, and it's an admission of failure. 247 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 9: No I know, but like guys like Joe Tooney and 248 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 9: Shack mas so that and you know, Trey Flowers and like, 249 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 9: they had some good players that they get to their 250 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 9: contracts and if they got them, they didn't get to see. 251 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 6: The end of the second contract in Jack Mason. 252 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, maybe just handle Toney. 253 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 9: Toney and and Flowers were allowed to just walk after 254 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 9: free agency. 255 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 6: And I think some of those some of those players 256 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 6: were valuable players. 257 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, and that forces you to then overpay in free 258 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 9: agency to replace them and then when that doesn't work, 259 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 9: because we know that that's kind of a quick fix 260 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 9: and not really for the long term. 261 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: And get back to along those lines. He did say 262 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: that they've talked with on when you they've talked with 263 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: duggar uh in other news from what I read, uh 264 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: and when you fired his agent, Yeah, you said that, 265 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: and now he's repping himself, which isn't a good idea. 266 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 9: That's not a good idea for one you. But I 267 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 9: think it increases the odds that he comes back. 268 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the you know, you always wonder like why 269 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,959 Speaker 1: a player does that. It's usually the players getting frustrated that. 270 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 6: Especially now, Yeah, because this is a week that your 271 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 6: agent should be right. 272 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 3: Always wondered about that because you sign with these guys 273 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 3: like a lot of times when you're so young, like 274 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: he was probably twenty two when he signed his agency, 275 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 3: and at that point they're telling you all the right 276 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: things that you want to hear to sign with you. 277 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 3: But I don't know, working with agents just seems like, yeah, 278 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: well do. 279 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 6: You know what I mean? 280 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 9: Like your agent can be in Indie this week behind 281 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 9: the scenes, you know, tamper no, tamper right, you know 282 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 9: you can get away. He can't if he's going to 283 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 9: represent himself, he absolutely can't talk to another team. That's 284 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 9: going to be a blatant viola right, right, you know, 285 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 9: So you're losing a lot of information, yeah, or the 286 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 9: opportunity to gather information, I should say. 287 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know, odd timing. So you don't know 288 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: if he's upset with his agent because he's not getting 289 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: enough play from other teams, yeah, or if he just 290 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: wants to sign here in his a right. 291 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 9: Maybe he wants him to push for more, but he's 292 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 9: But even if he wanted to sign here, I don't 293 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 9: see why you get rid of an agent now. Maybe 294 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 9: he's getting rid of the agent already knowing he's signing 295 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 9: with someone else, and this is a move point. 296 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 6: You know, maybe he. 297 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 9: Already has another guy lined up, like Alex said, maybe 298 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 9: he had signed better and yeah, maybe he had some 299 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 9: guy that he knew when he was coming up through 300 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 9: high school or whatever, and out of loyalty he stuck 301 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 9: with him and realized. 302 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 6: He's not the best fit. 303 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 1: Or maybe Ellie has a guy in mind. Maybe somebody told, hey, 304 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: if you fire the agent, you keep that extra five 305 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: percent that you would have given to him. 306 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 11: Right. 307 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, I just don't think it's a smart I agree 308 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 9: with you the way you started this whole thing. I 309 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 9: just don't think that generally works out. 310 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: It's not a good idea for well, you know, Bruski 311 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: over the years many years. 312 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 6: Left a lot of money on the table. 313 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: But Sherman I did n't care, you know, on that 314 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: pan out for him either way. It was cool to 315 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 3: see Elliott like sitting at the podium saying yes when 316 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: you is we consider him. What did he say, like 317 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 3: a corner corner, cornerstone of the franchise? 318 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, I can't Is that overdoing it? Is 319 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: that overstating it? You think is he a corner? 320 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 8: Maybe? 321 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 3: But hey, if he's out there flattering him publicly like 322 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: that to try to. 323 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: Retain him, are So this is the kind of thing 324 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: that I'm talking about. 325 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 9: So they haven't had a lot of good draft picks 326 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 9: in the last three years, right, So a couple of 327 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 9: the ones that were pretty good are up right now. 328 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 9: And I'm not telling you you need to resign them all. 329 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 9: But if they don't sign any of them, I think 330 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 9: that'll be a bad sign. 331 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, you know. 332 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 9: If if Oocha and Jennings and Dougger and when you 333 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 9: all leave all of them, I don't think that's a 334 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 9: good sign. 335 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 6: Yeah. 336 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 9: Now you can convince me, well you should do a 337 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 9: when you No, No, Dougger should be the prior. I 338 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 9: don't really care. I think it's the the broader picture 339 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 9: is you draft and develop and then maintain it. 340 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: Does it? Does it kind of stink that there is 341 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: no clear guys that you have to resign him? Is 342 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: that that stinks that there isn't somebody like that. Like, 343 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: for me, Barmore is guy. I know he's not up, 344 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: but right now they should be talking about extending him 345 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: right now. 346 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 9: Right But I think if they had a guy like that, 347 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 9: then you'd be more apt to not get to free 348 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 9: right in a perfect world. True, And so yes, I 349 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 9: agree with you. No, listen, we all know that they're 350 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 9: not loaded with young talent. Yeah, so he can say 351 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 9: we want to get young guys. You know, they don't 352 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 9: have a lot of it right now. They have some, 353 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 9: but not a lot. 354 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: But Elliott wolf does that make you feel good that 355 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: at least there's somebody saying, Okay, I'm the guy. Yeah, yeah, 356 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: it does. Someone needs to be in charge me too. 357 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 9: And I know, like someone on Twitter like, and I 358 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 9: put something out just sort of some bullet points of 359 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 9: what what Wolfe said, and someone was like, so nothing 360 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 9: has changed. And you know, I don't really go back 361 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 9: and forth all that much. But my feeling with that is, 362 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 9: what do you mean nothing's changed? I mean Belichick was 363 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 9: the guy who made those choices. Now he's gone. Someone 364 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 9: someone has to make a decision. Yeah, Like you say 365 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 9: the word collaborative to the point of a drinking game, 366 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 9: like I said a few weeks ago, that doesn't work. 367 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 9: When Alex wants Jayden Daniels and Fred wants Drake may 368 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 9: and Paul wants Caleb Williams, someone needs to be the 369 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 9: adult in the room and say, Okay, all due respect, 370 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 9: we're gonna go with Caleb. 371 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: Especially when you get past the first round. In the 372 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: first round, it's a little he's got to have consensus. 373 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: But when you get into third, fourth, fifth round, different 374 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: guys have their guys. Like I'm the area of Scout 375 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: for the Midwest. I've been looking at this guy all year, 376 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: maybe all his whole career, and I really like him. 377 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: And the guy in the South. You know, somebody has to, 378 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: you know, arbitrate that. 379 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 9: And you know, not that this is overly important to this, 380 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 9: but in the immediate aftermath of the change, when Mayo 381 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 9: was announced, and you know, there was a lot of talk, 382 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 9: you know, from that seth Wickersham story about how Jonathan 383 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 9: Craft and Robin Glazier were sort of part of foot 384 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 9: now and I think this alleviates I mean, I never 385 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 9: really took it literally in the first place, but some 386 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 9: people did, and I think this should alleviate some of 387 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 9: that fear of having quote unquote non football people involved 388 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 9: in the decision making process unless again, you know, unless 389 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 9: he's smoke screening you and right lying, which I don't 390 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 9: think he is. I think he was being upfront. 391 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. 392 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's also hard to say like, okay, so 393 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 3: nothing's changed just because yeah, all these people were already 394 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 3: here before a Bill Lift left. But if you've really 395 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 3: listened to anything Jirawed or mister Kraft or even like 396 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: in the coaching like Covington. 397 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 8: Availability, clearly these people. 398 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: Had ideas and were trying to make points and maybe 399 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 3: they didn't feel listened to. Maybe they felt like their 400 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: opinions were kind of overruled. In the end, now they 401 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: kind of have that freedom and not autonomy is probably 402 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 3: not a good word to use, but it's like it 403 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 3: feels like their opinions maybe they feel like they're trusted 404 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: a little more. 405 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 9: Yeah, there's no doubt. I think they feel like their 406 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 9: voices weren't heard times. 407 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,439 Speaker 1: And the one thing it's kind of bothering me, but 408 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: everybody's saying, oh, they're going back to Pete Carroll days 409 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: that you know, we never really got to see what 410 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll would have been had he been in charge 411 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: because he really wasn't fully in charge. Well that's the point. 412 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: That was the problem. 413 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 9: The people that are arguing is with the general manager 414 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 9: having the final say. 415 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 12: No. 416 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: But I know, but but people are but I'm talking 417 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: about the people are saying Pete Carroll in terms of 418 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: oh yeah, like you know, soft and feely, you know, so. 419 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 8: Far one way. 420 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 1: Now, Pete, I can tell you for a fact that 421 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: Pete ran a very competitive practice. Like he stressed competition 422 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: in practice. He you know, he wanted that, he wanted 423 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,679 Speaker 1: guys going at each other. It wasn't like touchy feely. 424 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 3: No. 425 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 9: The problem that Pete had, I agree with you. It 426 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 9: wasn't because he was a weak coach or too much 427 00:18:57,440 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 9: of a player's coach. The problem was the players knew 428 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 9: that he didn't have final say, and they went behind 429 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 9: his back the old adage of they went up the 430 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:11,479 Speaker 9: backstairs to Bobby Greer, right, or Robert Kraft, Which that's 431 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 9: another one I want to get to later. I don't 432 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 9: know if you saw some of the the aftermath of 433 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 9: the documentary. 434 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 6: I want to get to that. Talk about that, but 435 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 6: it's not not important. 436 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: Well we have a whole podcast about that. 437 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 6: But no, no, no, not about the documentary about something in 438 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 6: the aftermath. 439 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: Okay, but yeah, I mean that's true. It's it's and 440 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: they didn't just go to Bobby Grier back then, like 441 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: certain people like Bruce Armstrong and Robert went to Robert Kraft. 442 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,359 Speaker 1: And that was a problem and it was too bad 443 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: for Pete because he never really got to run the team. 444 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 6: No, I agree with that. 445 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 9: I agree with that, But I think that if if 446 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 9: in that regard, You're probably right, people are fearing that 447 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 9: if now, if they don't like what Gerard Mao's doing, 448 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 9: they're going to go to Elliot Wolf. 449 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: Now could that happen? Yes, I hope it doesn't. There's 450 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: a fear of that, right right, or even again, Robert Kraft. 451 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure who would be Like if MATC. 452 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: Jones was playing well, he would probably have the air 453 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: of Robert Kraft, But I don't think that's the case. 454 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: So I'm trying to think who would be the guys 455 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: that would go to the Crafts. I don't see any 456 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:20,479 Speaker 1: right now. I think it's more Elliott in Girod. And 457 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: right now it's Girod's job to make sure that people 458 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: know I'm the guy, you know, don't talk to anybody 459 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: else about your playing time, you know. Yeah, yeah, that's 460 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: ideally how it works, right, So that's that's what we're 461 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: that's what's happening right now. It's Elliott Wolf time here 462 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: at one Patriot. 463 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 8: Place, little nugget. 464 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw this, but Kendrick 465 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 3: Bourne's agent posted on Instagram he was here the other day. 466 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 3: He posted the player's entrance to Gillett with the song 467 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 3: new Money by Migos like attached to it. So there's 468 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: a lot of speculation that a new contract was being 469 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 3: worked out for Kendrick. But then went on Instagram Live 470 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: and said he's testing free agency, but that doesn't mean 471 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 3: he's not going to come back. 472 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 9: So somewhere he's gonna get There was definitely mixed, yeah, 473 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 9: mix because I saw that and believe it or not, 474 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 9: I saw that, Wow, and then immediately it was like, no, 475 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 9: they haven't really even talked about any extensions, and I 476 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 9: saw Mike Grease had something about that. 477 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, over the weekend. 478 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: It's just I like his agent, Henry. I've gotten to 479 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 3: know him at a couple events. But it's kind of 480 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: a wild move to pick that song to accompany the 481 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 3: photo of when you're coming off with yeah and the 482 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 3: song is New Money, like you know what you're doing well, 483 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: and that'll be interesting. 484 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of an aside, but what what 485 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: are Patriots players social media accounts going to look like now? 486 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: Because in the past it was always a fear like 487 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: if you go over the line too much, you're gonna 488 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: get called. 489 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,480 Speaker 6: Didn't stop anybody last year? 490 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: Well, I think that a lot of things break down, 491 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: you know. I think a lot of things broke down, 492 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: and I think I think at some point Bilb was 493 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: just like I just think. 494 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 9: As the years have gone on, more and more of 495 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 9: the players that are coming into the league are coming 496 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 9: in like alex celebrities, and they're already like hair Yeah, Dan, 497 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 9: you can't just like stop ten twelve years worth of 498 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 9: doing it this way and then say, oh, I'm in 499 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 9: the NFL now and Bill Belichick doesn't allow that, Well, 500 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 9: you don't. 501 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 1: Work, yeah. Jacket and Aubert says green Bay may not 502 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: go heavily into free agency, but they do make significant signings. 503 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: For example, Charles Woodson, who was Defensive Player of the 504 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: Year while with Green Bay. Also Desmond Howard, so a 505 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: couple people back then. 506 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 9: But yeah, I think Desmond Howard qualifies, but Charles Woodson 507 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 9: certainly does. But yeah, that's that's that's what you want 508 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 9: to do, is you want to augment in free agency, 509 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 9: right like I would go heavily if I were the 510 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 9: Patriots after one or two individual guys right now this year. 511 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 9: They have the money, they have the cap space, identify, 512 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,400 Speaker 9: you know, one of two guys. You know, I don't 513 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 9: if you want to really get strong on defense and 514 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 9: you don't want to solidify your corners. Lugerius Sneid is 515 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 9: a guy that a lot of people have been talking 516 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 9: about from Kansas City. Go at them with a you know, 517 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 9: a Gilmore esque contract and be aggressive and get them. 518 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 9: I'm not anti free agency. I like free agency. I'm 519 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 9: anti we're going to sign eight guys in free agency, 520 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:23,919 Speaker 9: right and overturn our team. You do that when you 521 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 9: have to, like in two thousand and one, but those 522 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 9: weren't money signed. 523 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: Well, like the year that they signed Brandon Cooks the 524 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: free agency. Those are our draft picks, remember that. 525 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 9: Right, But I but I don't mind that. I think 526 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 9: that was a good trade, the Brandon Cooks trade. 527 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: But if you do too much of that, then you're 528 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: not building. 529 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 9: Your tap two thousand and one, I mean twenty twenty 530 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 9: one was overpaying for a half dozen guys. Yeah, you're 531 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 9: going to be better in the first year, but it's 532 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 9: not going to be sustainable if you don't have anybody. 533 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: Cody and Indiana says the seating arrangement is just not right. 534 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable with Paul and Fred being face to face. 535 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: I totally explosion imminent, I totally. But that's why I did. 536 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 6: I literally have sat in that cheer cheer for every 537 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 6: one of. 538 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,920 Speaker 1: These with three of us. It's better than turning and 539 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: better from the camera. 540 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 8: Can't throw my bottle away? 541 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, not even close. 542 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 6: That was short, not even you could put a little 543 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 6: more into that. 544 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 1: I want to hit the TV. Hit the TV in mind. 545 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: So Elliott, Well, the combine is going on. We've got 546 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: Deuce and we've got Evan there and a cast of 547 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: thousands from the from the video side. Alex and Paul 548 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: the only ones that stayed. 549 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 6: We got we got, we got off round Tamara. 550 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: But tomorrow is going to be going. Yeah, she's going 551 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,919 Speaker 1: for another company. She's going to be down there for 552 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: Panini Panini again. Yeah, yeah, so she likes the pasta okay, 553 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,160 Speaker 1: oh no, that's Penny. 554 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 8: Yeah, just a trading card. 555 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: So she'll be she'll be there. You know, you might 556 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: see her on our site as well. But like I said, 557 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: later in the show, we'll have Duce and Evan. They'll 558 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: be live and we'll get their take. It's still early. 559 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: It's just right now, it's just GM's talking. I think 560 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: tomorrow there might be some coaches in GMS, but the 561 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: players haven't started their their workouts yet. 562 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 9: No, and the players don't start talking until tomorrow, I believe. 563 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 9: I think that most of the I saw a quick 564 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 9: look at the schedule and I didn't really see any 565 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 9: coaches GMS beyond today. 566 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: Looked like I might talk tomorrow, Is that right? 567 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 9: I didn't see that. I had heard that Gerard wasn't going. 568 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 9: That's what I heard too, And then I saw the 569 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 9: Globe definitively wrote that he was there, which doesn't mean 570 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 9: that he's there right. Reportedly, according to the Boston Globe, 571 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 9: he's there, but I was told as recently as late 572 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 9: last week that he wasn't going. 573 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 3: I thought it was said in the media conference too 574 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 3: that just Elliott would be available. 575 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: But that's what I heard, but then I heard yesterday 576 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: he might talk, So if he's going to talk, he's there. 577 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 9: Yeah, obviously if he does, we'll have that for you too, 578 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 9: like we did with Wolf. Yeah, you know, we'll stream 579 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 9: that live on Patriots dot Com. 580 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 8: Oh, you guys missed the Happy Hour with Coaches. You 581 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 8: should have seen Evan. 582 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: So it was good, but oh my god, Evan should 583 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 3: have had a live cam on him the whole time. 584 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 8: Like, I've never seen someone. 585 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: Like a kid in a candy store, a kid in 586 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 3: a candy store on Christmas. Like, he was hilarious. He 587 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: was just standing off to the side. At one point 588 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 3: he had just finished talking to Elliott Wolf and he's 589 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: just looking around. You can see him just taking in 590 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 3: the experience. 591 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 6: Well, I didn't realize Wolf was available on that too. 592 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, well he was there and people were talking to him. 593 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 8: Evan certainly was. 594 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 3: But I just remember looking over and he's just by himself, 595 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 3: looking around, just the biggest smile on his face. He's 596 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 3: beat red. 597 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 8: It was so funny. 598 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: And he comes up to Tamara and I and Veronica and. 599 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 8: Says, this is the best day of my life. Jeez, 600 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 8: he really. 601 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 6: Really, he really is sad. It's a sad existence. 602 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 9: So I, you know, Fred and I were both away 603 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 9: last week, and I guess how they did it was 604 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 9: they had Gerard and then the coordinators right and then 605 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 9: after that they had sort of like a meet and 606 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 9: greet with. 607 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 8: The entire staff and the new beer field level. 608 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 9: I didn't realize it was like ad like. I didn't 609 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 9: realize it was a drunk was it. 610 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 3: Was mocktails and it was non alcoholic beer. Really, mocktails 611 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 3: are pretty good. I had a had a virgin Moscow mule. 612 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 6: Okay, not interested whatsoever? All Right, Yeah, what's the point. 613 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 6: I was on the beach. 614 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 8: You could have drank water if you wanted to. 615 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: I watched the cove on the beach. 616 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 6: Good. So this is funny. 617 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 9: You know, this was very well received by the way, 618 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 9: to the point where none, none of them that Andy 619 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 9: Hart reaches out to me with a lengthy text about 620 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 9: how much more enjoyable the last twenty plus years could 621 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 9: have been. Like he said, it was phenomena like he said, 622 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 9: it was phenomenal, or we could have won like that 623 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 9: with this kind of approach. 624 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 6: He said, it was really well done. 625 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, agains, Yeah, let's not forget what happened. 626 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 8: You're just so used to. 627 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: Being like abused little puppies getting like hit and stuff 628 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 3: and with their tail between their legs and the corner 629 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: that now that they actually get to come out and 630 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: play and yeah, I'm socialized. 631 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 1: They I think we need to be careful because I, well, 632 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: at least I am forever grateful for what Bill did. 633 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 6: And you know, saying that you're not great, why does 634 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 6: one have to Well, I. 635 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Think you know these shots and yeah, you know all 636 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: that stuff. You should talk to these talk to Let's 637 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: just say, let's just say this is the way we're 638 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: doing it, you know, without having to go past the past. 639 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: We're moving forward. 640 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 3: We thank him from where he got us, and now 641 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: we're moving. 642 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: And we've done that him. Let's focus on the future. 643 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to dance on the man's like 644 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: figurative focus. 645 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 1: On the future. Let's let's do let's move past it. 646 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 1: What this, Well, the monitor broke, so we had to 647 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: bring another one in. So when we have Dus and Evan, 648 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: they'll be on that monitor so we can actually see them. Okay, 649 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: but I just want to tell you there'll be a 650 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: four second delay, so just keep you guy. 651 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 9: I mean, I don't really, there's nothing going on, so 652 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 9: I don't even know what we're gonna happen other than 653 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 9: they're saying Elmo's stake. 654 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: Well, I want to get their take on Elliott and 655 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: what was going on? Who else talked from other teams? 656 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: Was there any Patriots chatter going on? 657 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 6: Sure? 658 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: You know? So yeah, there's a lot to talk about. Okay, 659 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, all right eight five five, Pats five hundred, 660 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: any other news that we need to get to Patriots 661 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: are otherwise any stuff going around the league that is 662 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: of interest. So what happened with Taylor Swiss brother se 663 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: in trouble? 664 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 8: Oh? I don't know. I didn't hear. How did I 665 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 8: miss this? 666 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: Punch somebody or push somebody or something or her dad? 667 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 8: Really? 668 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah? 669 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 6: Scott Scott the paparazzi. 670 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 3: Oh, he's like a buttoned up stockbroker guy. 671 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 8: Like that's really surprising. 672 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's that. 673 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: There's another fight, Cam Newton fighting off some kids. 674 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: What's going on with Cam new Why is he? Why 675 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: does he get disrespected at these seven on seven? 676 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: So what I saw I don't I didn't verify this myself, 677 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 3: but apparently Cam was trying to break up a fight 678 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 3: that was already happening, and then he caught. 679 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 1: A stray somebody gave him a socker punch. 680 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 8: Yep, someone sucker punk. 681 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: But just the photo of him like fighting off seven 682 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 3: people at once. 683 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got the hat on with Yeah, it 684 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: never fell off. I've never never came hat never came off. 685 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 1: But but why does this happen to him? Like he 686 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: was another one where these little kids were like just distance. 687 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: Its shameful, Like, it's so shameful. He's Cam Newton, I know, 688 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 3: like have some I don't know. 689 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: Give him a break. He's out there helping. 690 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 3: If I were him, I would just be like, all right, 691 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 3: screw all of you. 692 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 8: Literally screw all of you. 693 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 9: Right, It is odd that something like that would happen. 694 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 9: That team passed on me, Yeah, that's not that's not 695 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 9: odd people passed on him. But and item that I 696 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 9: found interesting to see some of this stuff with Marvin Harrison. 697 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 6: No, he is junior. 698 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 9: That is one of the rare ones where you probably 699 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 9: you know, do need the junior. That kind of annoys me. 700 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 9: That like trend for the last ten years or so. 701 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 9: But he is that does have a famous father in 702 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 9: the same line of work. He is not only not 703 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 9: going to do anything at the case, he's not going 704 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 9: to the combine at all. He's not going to work out, 705 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 9: but he's not working out at all, like he's not 706 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 9: doing no Pro Day's. All he's going to do is 707 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 9: continue his normal football prep work. He's not training for 708 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 9: the combine slash pro day, which I think is interesting. 709 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 9: You don't really see that happen the first time I 710 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 9: can really remember a guy openly saying that he's not 711 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 9: going to do that stuff. 712 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: To me, it kind of makes sense, like it keeps 713 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: what else do I need to show? 714 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 9: I just I just when I first saw it, I 715 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 9: totally agree with you. I wish I could, you know, 716 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 9: we're face to face now. I wish I could argue 717 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 9: with you. But I totally have the same opinion. I 718 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 9: just wish that it was Caleb Williams so everybody would 719 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 9: have the opposite opinion and be another thing against him, 720 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 9: like just won't conform, just can't do what everybody else. 721 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison, It's like, yeah, this is a proven prospect, 722 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 3: like anything he does. 723 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: Might hurt him. 724 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 9: He wants to continue to train for football for the 725 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 9: forty yards right right, which I think is. 726 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: But the only thing, the only thing I hope he's 727 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: open to is if the Patriots want to bring him 728 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: in for a visit. Even if you're not going to 729 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: work out for us, we want to sit down and 730 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: talk with you. Maybe we want to have our medical 731 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: take a look at you. I hope he's open to that, 732 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: you know, because you know teams tell you that these visits, 733 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: the most important thing is getting to know the player. 734 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: He's sitting down face to face, asking questions and all 735 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: that stuff, getting your own doctors to look at him. 736 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: That's really valuable. But I kind of agree with him 737 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: in terms of the workout stuff, like you've got on 738 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: my tape from my career. You've got everything you need there. 739 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: I can't show you anything else. And like to Paul's point, 740 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm not going to spend all my time training for 741 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: forty or the cone drill. You know that's not football, right. 742 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 9: I'll bet you if you asked all the NFL scouts, 743 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 9: I'll bet you they'd prefer it. Oh yeah, because now 744 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 9: they're not going to get clouded by the guys who 745 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 9: Mike Mamula the combine and totally prepare. That's a dated 746 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 9: reference Mike Mamula. People have no idea what I'm talking about, 747 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 9: especially Alum. He's the guy the Eagles draft totally prepared specifically, 748 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 9: was one of the first that really just prepared for 749 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 9: the combine, and he killed it. Like he was top 750 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 9: of the charts in everything, like the hell got taken in, 751 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 9: like the top ten got up. 752 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: You know. 753 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 9: He was considered like a like a second day pick, 754 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 9: and he shot up the board was like a top 755 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 9: ten pick. 756 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 8: And that's a business decision, like. 757 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 6: Just completely flamed out. 758 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: Yes, it's like these kids that like past in colleges 759 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: to know, do the SAT Yeah, oh great, okay, so 760 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: you're good at the SAT right, you know, but. 761 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 3: Then they get to like their real life and it's like, oh, 762 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 3: can you speak to people? 763 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 8: Or you just are really really right smart. 764 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: So I maybe he could be a trendsetter. I'd love 765 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: to see more of that, believe Yeah. 766 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 9: And I do think that that the the teams would 767 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 9: probably appreciate it, as long as they got to do 768 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 9: all the stuff that you said, you know, you get 769 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 9: to meet with them and medically check them out and whatnot, 770 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 9: and and have them do a football workout. Yeah, you know, 771 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 9: I think that would that would work, But he's not 772 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 9: doing anything. He's not doing any football workout as far 773 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 9: as I know. Yeah, I know that a lot of 774 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 9: people on Twitter were talking about it the last couple 775 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 9: of days, and. 776 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: The reports are the top three quarterbacks aren't going to 777 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: be throwing. Yeah, yeah, So you know, Williams and Drake 778 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: May and Daniels will not throw at the combine. 779 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 9: And everybody keeps saying that JJ McCarthy will, and that 780 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 9: he you know, I know Fred Tutcher has been talking 781 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 9: about this for a long time on the Sports Hub 782 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 9: that when he does, he's gonna blow people away because 783 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 9: his physical skills are just. 784 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Michigan people are. Everyone's saying he's gonna prove 785 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people wrong. 786 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a lot of talk about him suddenly sliding into. 787 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: The six feet at most or something like that. 788 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 9: Oh, I think he's bigger than but he's I mean, 789 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 9: he's a pretty good athlete too. 790 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 6: But I don't love him. I don't. 791 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 9: I mean, maybe I'm wrong, maybe he's capable of a 792 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 9: lot more, but I do think he's reasonably athletic and 793 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,799 Speaker 9: moves and makes plays off platform. But I don't. I 794 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 9: don't love I don't love him as a player because 795 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 9: I just felt like there was too much run. You know, 796 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,959 Speaker 9: he wasn't asked to do that much. 797 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's not his fault though. 798 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 9: No, I know, but I think if he was capable 799 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 9: of doing more, they might have played it differently. Yeah, 800 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 9: so okay, Yeah, he's listed at six three now probably 801 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,839 Speaker 9: maybe he's not six three six. 802 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: Listen at six three two oh two, so he. 803 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 10: Just looks maybe because the Michigan line is so big, 804 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:02,320 Speaker 10: But I don't know, he just you know. 805 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 9: As Billy Tubbs used to say, the old Oklahoma basketball coach, 806 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 9: I never saw a player play in his bare feet, 807 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 9: so why not. 808 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 6: Measure them in their sneakers? Right, That's what he used 809 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 6: to say. 810 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 3: I'm gonna start going with that. Yeah, if anyone's wondering, but. 811 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it matters. As long as everyone's in 812 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: their bare feet, then you know. 813 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 6: It was a Billy Tubbs is he was a long 814 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 6: time ago, all right. 815 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,400 Speaker 1: H eight five five pass five hundred is the Ace 816 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: ticket Hutline web Radio at Patriot dot com. Just a 817 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 1: reminder at halftime, we'll play the Elliott Wolf interview that 818 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: he did with us, not the press, conference, and then 819 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: later on in the show we'll have Duce and Evan 820 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: live from the combine. 821 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 9: But Scott's important, like, the what you're gonna hear is 822 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 9: not the same thing that you've already heard on Patriots 823 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 9: dot Com. 824 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: It's different, right, Uh So let's go to the Ace 825 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: ticket hutline. We'll start with Mark, who's in Bolton. What's up? Mark? 826 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 13: Hey, guys, like I got a couple of things. I'm 827 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 13: really pleased to hear about the new ranking system. I've 828 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 13: had problems with with the pass in the past. I 829 00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 13: just think that there was a disconnect with value of 830 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 13: other of how other teams view the players that you're 831 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,800 Speaker 13: interested in, and some of the trade ups for example, 832 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 13: you know, throwing away fourth round pick for Duke Dawson. 833 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 13: You know they had to have Devin Asiassi, so let's 834 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 13: throw away a fourth round pick there. And Paul, I 835 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 13: know we discussed this in the past, So I don't 836 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 13: know your thoughts on on on the ranking system is 837 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:37,040 Speaker 13: just one. 838 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 9: Other thing I got to Yeah, I mean I don't 839 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 9: really know if those those are certainly bad trades. I mean, 840 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 9: you you targeted guys that weren't really very good players, 841 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 9: So I don't know if that has to do with 842 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 9: the the value charge, like the what the what they've 843 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 9: done with their. 844 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 6: Rankings per se. 845 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 9: That's smart because I think that some of those guys, 846 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 9: you know, if it was because of that. In other words, 847 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 9: if you took cole Strange where you did because you 848 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 9: value him more than other people, that shouldn't make you 849 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 9: have to take him rounds earlier than you need to, right, 850 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,439 Speaker 9: I mean it would only stand to reason. Logic would 851 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 9: dictate if you think more of him than everybody else, 852 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 9: I can wait longer to take him because they're not 853 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,959 Speaker 9: going to take. 854 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 1: Him or they but you know, you don't know what 855 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: other If you think he's really good and other people 856 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,840 Speaker 1: probably think he's good too, we don't want to risk it. 857 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 6: But that's the problem. It's a misevaluation. 858 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: It's a misevaluation. 859 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 9: And yeah, it's like I think that Bill specifically and 860 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 9: you know, Matt grow and whoever was just thought Cole 861 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 9: Strange was a better player than he is. Yeah, well 862 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 9: so far anyway through two years. I think that's the misevaluation. 863 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 9: Not because well, he fits so well with what we 864 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 9: want to do, so we're going to take him three 865 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 9: rounds early. 866 00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: You can still wait if you think he's a fit. Yeah, yeah, 867 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 1: that was a complete yeah. 868 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 9: And Mark is right, you know, Duke Dawson trading up, 869 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 9: you know, and you might say, well, you know, what's 870 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 9: a fourth round pick? I would largely agree with that, 871 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 9: But you don't need to give up draft picks to 872 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 9: get guys like Duke Dawson and Devin Aias. 873 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, let's see, phones are stacked up for sure. 874 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: Let's go to dominic in New York. What's up dominic? 875 00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 14: Hey, y'all, how y'all doing all right? 876 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 11: Uh? 877 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 14: Yeah, So my question, or rather my thoughts kind of 878 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 14: deal with the mock draft season and everything going on. 879 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 14: I've seen so much that, you know, and I don't 880 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 14: know if this is planted by whoever. I'm pretty sure 881 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 14: it is, but a lot of trading back with like 882 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 14: the Minnesota Vikings to trade justin Jefferson, and you know, 883 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 14: the Patriots is moving back to Admiral Draft Capital and 884 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 14: so on and so forth. And I think you mentioned 885 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 14: on a show a couple of you know, weeks ago, 886 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 14: like you know, there's going to be a process. We're 887 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 14: not going to you know, hit on everyone in the draft. 888 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 14: This year, maybe look to next year if we have 889 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 14: a social season, But I'm of the mindset of just 890 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 14: keeping at keeping number three pick, whether it's Smart Norris 891 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 14: and Junior Drake May, Jane Daniels who it is kind 892 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 14: of see how what we can get through this draft, 893 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 14: and then maybe next year you make some moves, you 894 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 14: trade back. I think I'm okay with that, but I'm 895 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 14: just hearing so much of trading back and it's kind 896 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 14: of discouraging because you feel like the talent might be 897 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 14: really good at the top, and you know, it's knowing 898 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 14: more than anything. It's more of a great But I'm wondering, like, 899 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,319 Speaker 14: what would you do? Would you just hey, let's get 900 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 14: the best time this year. We're not guaranteed be guaranteed 901 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 14: to be at the three spot this year, this time 902 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 14: next year, you know, let's just take what. 903 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: We have and then well, here's the thing. You know, 904 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 1: if you don't love the top three quarterbacks, moving back 905 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: this year is a little bit different than moving back 906 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: in prior years. When you move back in prior years, 907 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: you're moving down to the bottom of the first round, 908 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: you know, or around there. This year, moving back could 909 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: be like to number eight or number seven, and at 910 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: that spot you can still get a good player and 911 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: you know, pick up more resources. So this year moving 912 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: is not the same as in the past years. 913 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,919 Speaker 9: I agree with that. And I also think that if 914 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 9: you do not like one of those three quarterbacks. 915 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: Right, that's what it's all predicated. 916 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 9: I think it makes a lot of sense if you 917 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 9: do like them. And you know me, I'm very anti 918 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 9: trading down, but I can absolutely be be sold on it. 919 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 9: If you're telling me, let's just say that Jayden Daniels 920 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 9: is the guy left at three and you don't like Jayden. 921 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 9: If Gerard Mayo does not want to draft Jayden Daniels, 922 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,319 Speaker 9: I think trading down is the right thing to do, 923 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,239 Speaker 9: not just an option. I think it would be the 924 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 9: right thing to do, right because someone's gonna want him. 925 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: Reverse If you're a number three, Caleb Williams goes number 926 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: one and you like Drake may I would move up, 927 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't risk it, I would. I would If 928 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: you love Drake may go get him, Go get him, 929 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Or that goes for any of the guys, 930 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: you know. All right, thanks Dominic, Let's go to Eldred 931 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. What's up? 932 00:41:56,040 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 15: Eldridd Yeah, you get those quarterbacks in the first round, right, 933 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 15: so if none of them throwing or going to the 934 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 15: combine when that's combine but maybe pro day, how do 935 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 15: you adjust your board? 936 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,400 Speaker 1: I don't understand the question. What do you mean? Like 937 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: without the pro day go ahead. 938 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 16: You have to combine, but none of the top three 939 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 16: quarterbacks gonna throw. 940 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 9: But the combine is not going to adjust your board, 941 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,360 Speaker 9: like the workouts aren't necessarily gonna adjust your board. You 942 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 9: want to talk to these guys and find out what 943 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 9: they're all about, and you have ample opportunity to do that. 944 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: They'll be there, but they're just not gonna throw. 945 00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,759 Speaker 6: Yeah, you want to, You want to. 946 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 9: I mean, like in Michael Pennix's situation, very important part 947 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 9: of this is medical. So you're going to get all 948 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 9: that information. You want to talk to these guys and 949 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 9: try to figure out. Listen, the Caleb Williams stuff that 950 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 9: I mock all the time, maybe that comes across in 951 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 9: these interviews. 952 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 6: Right, you know, this is not a team guy. 953 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 9: This is not a guy I want to build my 954 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 9: franchise around, and that's. 955 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 6: Solid teams or the other way around. 956 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 9: You realize it was all right, it's all a bunch 957 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 9: of media crap, you know, so I think that's what 958 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 9: you're doing. I don't think you're worried about Oh jeez, 959 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 9: I didn't know he could make that twenty yard out. 960 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 9: I needed to say, you have plenty of film on 961 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 9: these guys. They've thrown, you know, hundreds of passes at 962 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,120 Speaker 9: the college level. They know, they know what you guys. 963 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,879 Speaker 9: And I think Wolf actually used that phrase today too. 964 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,239 Speaker 9: It's like talk to He talked about body language of 965 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 9: that position, and he's like, in terms of talent skills, 966 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 9: like these guys that are in these this situation, they're 967 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,280 Speaker 9: all skilled. 968 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: I will say though, that somebody resurfaced Christian McCaffrey's workout 969 00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,880 Speaker 1: at the Combine. I mean he was perfect. 970 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 6: I mean there's some guys. 971 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 9: Did you ever see like when you watch like you know, 972 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 9: like Usain Bolt, right, you just see guys that are 973 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 9: so athletic when they. 974 00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 6: Run, they don't move. That's r McCaffrey. That's McCaffrey. He's 975 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 6: like just perfect, perfect form. 976 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 1: But it was just every cuts, the head movement, like 977 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: he was perfect. 978 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 9: Like some guys are running and it's like all asses 979 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 9: and elbows and everything's like, you know, everything's going everywhere 980 00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:17,920 Speaker 9: and they get where they need to go. It's but 981 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,120 Speaker 9: then there's like this fluidness to certain athletes, and McCaffrey's 982 00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 9: one of them. Yeah, that like the whole upper body 983 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 9: doesn't move when they run. It's amazing. 984 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,320 Speaker 16: One more question. Would you trade Judon for a second 985 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 16: round if somebody like it's a Arizona or maybe Minnesota 986 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 16: or let's say bar warming back. 987 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I mean I'd be more willing to do 988 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 9: it if it was like Arizona or Minnesota, then I 989 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 9: would Baltimore. But yeah, if someone wanted to give a 990 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,839 Speaker 9: second round pick, I mean, I think Judon has been 991 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 9: terrific as a Patriot his three years. But chances are 992 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 9: he's going to be looking for more money now after 993 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 9: the whole thing last year. It's like the Gilmour thing 994 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,239 Speaker 9: from a few years ago. You know, you paid a 995 00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 9: little on the future to satisfy him in the present. 996 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 9: He's going to be looking to get that back. He's 997 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,640 Speaker 9: probably not going to be part of your next really 998 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 9: good team. I think he's a candidate's Oh and I 999 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 9: wanted to I had a bone to pick with Eldrick 1000 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 9: driving back from the Carolinas. 1001 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, him and. 1002 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 9: His ilk all over the road, Freddy dominating the road, 1003 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 9: those eighteen wheels. 1004 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh is that right? 1005 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 6: They're in and out of the left lane, cutting back 1006 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,280 Speaker 6: and forth. 1007 00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,360 Speaker 1: Can't do that. Yeah, that's bad driving. 1008 00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 16: Yeah. 1009 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,239 Speaker 6: It caused me to get a speeding ticket on the way. 1010 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,360 Speaker 1: Oh you got it? What state? 1011 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 6: Virginia? 1012 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right, yeah how much? How much? 1013 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 9: I don't know yet, didn't check how What was your mph? 1014 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,280 Speaker 9: He wrote me down for eighty five and a seventy. 1015 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 9: Oh I wasn't going that fast. No, but I mean 1016 00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna I'm not going to argue. I mean, 1017 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,560 Speaker 9: like I'm on the I'm on the side of ninety 1018 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 9: five in Virginia. Yeah, my family, I was like, yes, sir, 1019 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 9: I had I went all ten and two Freddy, Yes, sir, 1020 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 9: thank you sir. 1021 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 3: People fly down ninety five like eighty standard like that. 1022 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 9: Well, the speed limit was seventy, which I always sort 1023 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 9: of like you could push it to eighty, and that's 1024 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,760 Speaker 9: generally where I sit. I don't ever really go higher 1025 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 9: than that over the now. I'm not going to tell 1026 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,600 Speaker 9: you that. I'm not going to tell you that I've 1027 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 9: never like gone around somebody who was going a little 1028 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 9: bit slower, and at the time I go around, I'm 1029 00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 9: I have to eighty five or whatever just to get around, 1030 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 9: And I think that might have been what happened. Of course, 1031 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 9: he was hiding in the woods and he was nice enough, 1032 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 9: but I couldn't say anything because I don't want. 1033 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,160 Speaker 6: To get in trouble. 1034 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 9: But there's no way I was going eighty five and 1035 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 9: guys would just flying by me because I was going 1036 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 9: to write. 1037 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,399 Speaker 1: He saw that Massachusetts plate. 1038 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, I got myself one absolutely targeted. 1039 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 6: And I was it was a two lane. 1040 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 9: It was two lanes at the time, and I was 1041 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 9: in the right lane. 1042 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 10: Are you going to drive down Virginia's And he knows that, like, 1043 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 10: I want to look at your Virginia task. 1044 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:05,680 Speaker 6: I haven't gone, like. 1045 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,000 Speaker 9: He explained, like I this is the date and if 1046 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 9: I want to appear, and I go online to find 1047 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,879 Speaker 9: out and if I can fight it, if I can 1048 00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,919 Speaker 9: fight it over zoom, I will. Obviously I'm not going 1049 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 9: to Virginia to fight it. 1050 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I got one in Maryland about five six 1051 00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: years ago. 1052 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 6: Is it still on your insurance? 1053 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: No, No, it was longer than that. I was. I 1054 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 1: was down one of Connor's tournaments. 1055 00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 9: Because I was one like the speeding ticket no matter 1056 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 9: what is on your insurance, right, Like it's not like 1057 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 9: it doesn't have to be on. 1058 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 1: The it depends on the insurance company. Like sometimes they 1059 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 1: have that one. 1060 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 9: One forgiveness because I haven't gotten a speed and he 1061 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,680 Speaker 9: actually he came back, he because you have a spotless 1062 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,239 Speaker 9: driving record. But I'm still and I was like I thought, 1063 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 9: I thought for a second, yeah, yeah. 1064 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,280 Speaker 3: You know, come on trying to get that quota. 1065 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're endangering your family. 1066 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,640 Speaker 9: I thought if it was like driving to endanger, I 1067 00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 9: knew that was automatic for me. But he didn't cite 1068 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,319 Speaker 9: me going fast enough for that. He said, yeah, that's 1069 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 9: like when you're gonna He also wanted them to show. 1070 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: Me Thethans in western Kentucky. What's up Ethan? 1071 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,200 Speaker 2: I didn't say that though. 1072 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 17: He so, we're like what everybody else wants to do 1073 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,800 Speaker 17: in the draft, And really I look at it the 1074 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 17: way you're either be aggressive. You could try to force 1075 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,720 Speaker 17: the quarterback at the three spot and then target guys 1076 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 17: like Tyronsonis, or maybe take a chance on back and 1077 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 17: for your tax position Calvin Gridley, all that, you know, 1078 00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 17: just trying to hit home runs in free agency, in 1079 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,680 Speaker 17: the draft, or you can kind of take the less 1080 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 17: aggressive approach, trade down to eight or eleven, maybe get 1081 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,960 Speaker 17: your receiver for next year. You know all that, But 1082 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,640 Speaker 17: I just kind of wanted to hear what y'all thoughts 1083 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,240 Speaker 17: were on it. Yeah, wen Ellie Wolf's position. 1084 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way you force anybody at three, I 1085 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:49,560 Speaker 1: don't care quarterback or there's no reason to do that. So, 1086 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 1: like I said, well. 1087 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 17: I mean that's probably what's gonna have that right, Like 1088 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 17: Craft has a lot of pressure and so to the 1089 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,920 Speaker 17: fans and everybody that we want to win next year, 1090 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 17: we don't want to know. 1091 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:01,920 Speaker 6: No, no, no, there's no pressure to win next year none. 1092 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I. 1093 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,399 Speaker 9: Mean there isn't. I mean this is a brand new 1094 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,720 Speaker 9: regime everything. I mean there's no pressure. 1095 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: I think there might be pressure is to create some 1096 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,919 Speaker 1: excitement and some hope, you know, do things that show 1097 00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: the fans that you know what you're doing. I think 1098 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: that you have a plan not be a joke anymore. 1099 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,520 Speaker 3: But today said get us back to respectability. 1100 00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's going to He. 1101 00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 17: Said, you're not going to force the quarterback unless maybe 1102 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 17: major down he falls or maybe getting Dans and your 1103 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:29,760 Speaker 17: guy whatever. 1104 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 18: So if you don't get your guys. 1105 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 17: Say our guys May and he gets taken second overall, 1106 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,600 Speaker 17: do you try to trade down to acquire more assets 1107 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,680 Speaker 17: or are you going to take mar Harrison? 1108 00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 6: So then you then you I think I would trade down. 1109 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you trade down. But you know, here's 1110 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,239 Speaker 1: the thing. 1111 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 6: I like guys. 1112 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: You know when you say you know May's your guy 1113 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 1: and he went at second, we will never if that happens, 1114 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,080 Speaker 1: we will never know that May was their guy. 1115 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 6: I don't know about that. 1116 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: They won't tell us based on this. 1117 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 6: They might put it on a Twitter on Twitter account. 1118 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 8: I don't have a happy hour. 1119 00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,600 Speaker 1: Then that then that's their first failure. If if May 1120 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: was your guy and he went one slot above you, you. 1121 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 9: Know, yeah, and you won't find out immediately, but you 1122 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,160 Speaker 9: might find out. You might find out, especially if May 1123 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,880 Speaker 9: ends up being. 1124 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 1: Of course, we have we have a podcast that wraps 1125 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: up each episode. 1126 00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 18: I'm been disappointed with it. 1127 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,880 Speaker 17: I feel like that know what thoughts for and I'll 1128 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 17: take it. 1129 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,319 Speaker 6: Okay, thanks, that's definitely the consensus. I agree with you 1130 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 6: on that. 1131 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of you know, and I you know, 1132 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: I guess that's good. Like they're talking about it. So 1133 00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 1: if you're Matt Hammachuck or Jeff Benedict who were involved, 1134 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: that's what you want. You want people talking about it. 1135 00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, a lot of the Patriots fans are, you know, 1136 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: pointing out things that they don't like or wish there 1137 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 1: was more of or less of or whatever. You know, 1138 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 1: I guess that's understanding. I think it's enjoyable. Like my 1139 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: wife's watching it, and you know, she knows all the stuff, 1140 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,200 Speaker 1: she's lived through it, but she's finding it really enjoyable. 1141 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,320 Speaker 8: So yeah, you know it's enjoyable. 1142 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 3: But also the fan in me is like, why are 1143 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,920 Speaker 3: why are we skipping over this right? 1144 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 8: Like why didn't you talk about this? 1145 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: Why did they choose to do this instead of that? 1146 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,799 Speaker 3: You know, there's all that soundtrack, the composition, the soundtrack, 1147 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 3: it's not a soundtrack, but no, the music they composed 1148 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 3: to go. 1149 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,080 Speaker 10: Along with it, not doing it not crazy like there 1150 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,320 Speaker 10: was like the. 1151 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,720 Speaker 3: Snow Game, the Vinitary snow Kick. It was like Christmas music. 1152 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they were looking for that, you know, snow's falling. 1153 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it also sounded like I'm walking through like 1154 00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 3: me S's and Chris. 1155 00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: I think. I think what they were going for there 1156 00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,840 Speaker 1: is to have a magical feeling, Like I felt like 1157 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: I was on the magical game. The fact that it 1158 00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,200 Speaker 1: snowed at all, you know, and that was perfect, and 1159 00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,200 Speaker 1: then the kick, you know, it was mad. I think 1160 00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 1: that's what they were going. 1161 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 9: There have been things that I like, the first two 1162 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,759 Speaker 9: I so far, and I've seen seven episodes now. The 1163 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,440 Speaker 9: first two were by far the two that I like 1164 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,439 Speaker 9: the most. I feel like they're kind of going down 1165 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,359 Speaker 9: as they continue, But I also like one of the 1166 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 9: main things, like they keep people keep complaining. I can't 1167 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 9: believe they didn't talk about three and o four the 1168 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,799 Speaker 9: Super Bowls, Like this is not like that's America's game. 1169 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:29,000 Speaker 9: America's game will give you all the highlights and details 1170 00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,919 Speaker 9: of those magical seasons, you know, chapter and verse. They're 1171 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 9: looking at the behind the scenes stuff and what was 1172 00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 9: going on when those things were happening. Where I took 1173 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 9: exception to is I don't understand how three got a 1174 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 9: short shift, because I think that was perfect for that. Yeah, 1175 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 9: they made a very controversial decision at the top of 1176 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,400 Speaker 9: that with Loyal molloy and never even touched on it. 1177 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and it took them three episodes just 1178 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,480 Speaker 3: to even get to the first Super Bowl really to 1179 00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 3: begin with. 1180 00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 8: So it's like I feel like there was a way 1181 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,080 Speaker 8: they all right. 1182 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 1: We gotta take a break. Bridge Stone is the official 1183 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: tire of the New England Patriots and proud partner with 1184 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 1: Sullivan Tire, New England's headquarters for quality Bridgetone Tires. 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I realize it was 1204 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:15,640 Speaker 7: all thanks to my teammate, Toastedos. It was always you, Toastedos. 1205 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:19,920 Speaker 7: Team up with Toastitos, the official chip and dip of 1206 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,520 Speaker 7: the New England Patriots. 1207 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 5: All right, Mike you so Evan less are We're here 1208 00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:27,919 Speaker 5: from the Combine, excited to be joined by Elliot Wolf Here, Elliet, 1209 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:29,680 Speaker 5: thanks for sitting down with us here today. Thanks for 1210 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,160 Speaker 5: taking the time the Combine. What's it like to be 1211 00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,960 Speaker 5: here in India. I'm sure you've been coming here for many, 1212 00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,680 Speaker 5: many years. It's just a convention. All the teams are here. 1213 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,239 Speaker 5: It's where a lot of work gets done. What's your 1214 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:40,960 Speaker 5: experience been like in the past here at the Combine? 1215 00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 20: Yeah, so this is actually my thirtieth Combine. I started 1216 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:45,560 Speaker 20: coming here in nineteen ninety three when I was ten 1217 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,279 Speaker 20: years old with my dad. Obviously fortunate enough to have 1218 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 20: the opportunity to do that at a young age. The 1219 00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 20: Combine is an unbelievable source of information for us, not 1220 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,920 Speaker 20: only the timing and testing, but the medicals, the interviews, 1221 00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 20: the interactions with people from other teams and agents, things 1222 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 20: like that. It continues to just be a force of 1223 00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,400 Speaker 20: information for us as we move forward into our strategic 1224 00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 20: portion of the spring. 1225 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 21: Yeah, thirtieth combine, that's a lot. I just I wanted 1226 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,040 Speaker 21: to start with the draft and then we'll get into 1227 00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 21: maybe some free agency too. But with this new coaching 1228 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 21: staff and with AVP now in place, how much is 1229 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 21: your process now about scheme fit versus just getting the 1230 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,160 Speaker 21: best players available? Just thinking about, you know, working with 1231 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 21: him and how you get the guys at work in 1232 00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 21: his offense. 1233 00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 4: Well, the key is working backwards. 1234 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 20: So first we identify who the really good players are 1235 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 20: in the draft and in free agency, and we work 1236 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,160 Speaker 20: backwards in terms of, you know, do they fit what 1237 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,839 Speaker 20: we want? Are they the type of person we want 1238 00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,480 Speaker 20: first and foremost? And then are they somebody that can 1239 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,920 Speaker 20: fit in our scheme and do well. You know, I 1240 00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,080 Speaker 20: have the fortune to work with Alex before, and I 1241 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,160 Speaker 20: know what he looks for in players, and so I 1242 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,160 Speaker 20: have a little bit of an advantage even though he's 1243 00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:56,440 Speaker 20: technically new. But we continue to work with Girod and 1244 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,680 Speaker 20: determine the perfect profile of the Patriots players. 1245 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,800 Speaker 5: That we want a little bit along those lines. So, 1246 00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,720 Speaker 5: I mean, everybody wants to get right into the mock drafts. 1247 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,359 Speaker 5: You know, we got all these mock drafts coming out. 1248 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 5: We haven't even had. 1249 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 4: Free agency yet. 1250 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,719 Speaker 5: So just from your perspective, how do you approach looking 1251 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:10,720 Speaker 5: at a free agency class. 1252 00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 4: You've obviously got needs that. 1253 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,560 Speaker 5: Change every year, but how do you kind of attack 1254 00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,799 Speaker 5: that process where, yeah, you're looking at these draft guys, 1255 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,480 Speaker 5: but when we get to April, something that's a need 1256 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:19,680 Speaker 5: right now might not be in. 1257 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 20: Need if you address it in free agency. Yeah, I 1258 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:23,960 Speaker 20: think it's sort of addressing. You know, free agency is 1259 00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,680 Speaker 20: a year long process. The players that are available in 1260 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 20: free agency or players that we've been evaluating obviously for 1261 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,960 Speaker 20: at least, you know, three or four years, so we 1262 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 20: have a distinct advantage in terms of understanding the strengths 1263 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 20: and weaknesses of that class, and then you sort of 1264 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,439 Speaker 20: marry it up with the draft class, also our current 1265 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,840 Speaker 20: free agents, and we're you know, believe me, we're working 1266 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 20: hard to sign some of our own guys. So I 1267 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 20: think it's it's important to understand how it all marries 1268 00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 20: up together, and really an important meeting that we've had 1269 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 20: so far as getting on the same page with the 1270 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,239 Speaker 20: coaching staff and determining all, right, like here's where we 1271 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 20: are with our needs, like like here's what we need 1272 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 20: on defense, here's what we need an offense, and just 1273 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,200 Speaker 20: making sure we're all on the same page and having 1274 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 20: that open community, open and honest communication about that. 1275 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned your father earlier. 1276 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 21: Pro Football Hall of Famer Ron wolf Packers notoriously have 1277 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 21: been a team that have been methodical, draft and develop 1278 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 21: things like that. 1279 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 4: Is that your style? 1280 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,400 Speaker 21: Like, how do you look at that in way what 1281 00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 21: you obviously have learned for your whole life versus you know, 1282 00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 21: seventy five million in cap space I think this offseason. 1283 00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 20: Yeah, that's a good question. 1284 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,400 Speaker 4: I think I think not. 1285 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,440 Speaker 20: I think like at the core, it's draft and develop, 1286 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,640 Speaker 20: but there's different ways throughout the year to supplement your team, 1287 00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 20: whether that's free agency, trades, waiver claims. I think you're 1288 00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,200 Speaker 20: doing yourself a disservice if you just say, oh, we're 1289 00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,720 Speaker 20: not going to do free agency this year. You know 1290 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 20: there'll be as we ascend in this program, there will 1291 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,360 Speaker 20: be times where it may maybe doesn't make sense to 1292 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 20: sign as many high price free agents. But like you said, 1293 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,440 Speaker 20: we have the resources and we have a lot of 1294 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,440 Speaker 20: improvement that's needed within the. 1295 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 4: Roster, just along the draft board. 1296 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,160 Speaker 5: I mean, every year there's you know, a certain position 1297 00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 5: group that might have a ton of guys maybe tackle 1298 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,919 Speaker 5: this year. There's a lot of time you know, seem 1299 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,520 Speaker 5: to fit the bill a variety of different ways. How 1300 00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 5: do you approach that when you have a position group 1301 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,000 Speaker 5: that's maybe really got a lot of talent versus all right, 1302 00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 5: there might be only another group that doesn't have quite 1303 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,000 Speaker 5: as many how do you kind of manage that? 1304 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,000 Speaker 20: Are you talking free agency or draft draft? In the 1305 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:15,600 Speaker 20: draft specifically here today? 1306 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,080 Speaker 5: I mean, we're gonna see the tackles on Saturday, and 1307 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 5: o're just one group to throw out. 1308 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:19,320 Speaker 4: I mean that's obviously you need. 1309 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 20: But I think that sort of branches off your previous 1310 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:23,400 Speaker 20: question about, like, you know, marrying it all up, Like 1311 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,680 Speaker 20: who do we feel confident in who solves the problem 1312 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,440 Speaker 20: or who's just kind of a name that you know, 1313 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,280 Speaker 20: we're hoping can solve a problem, because hope's not really 1314 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 20: a strategy, So we can we can try to try 1315 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 20: to marry it up together and determine what's best for 1316 00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:37,479 Speaker 20: the team. 1317 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:39,120 Speaker 1: I got to ask you about. 1318 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 21: Quarterbacks obviously, and my takeaway from watching these quarterbacks is 1319 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 21: that they all have their own unique style. 1320 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:47,720 Speaker 1: Everybody plays a little bit differently. 1321 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,320 Speaker 21: How do you view this class in general and just 1322 00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 21: how do you go about Okay, this guy's a runner, 1323 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,640 Speaker 21: that guy's more of that pocket passer, and where you 1324 00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 21: guys want to take this offense? 1325 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,240 Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, I think it's a good year for quarterbacks. 1326 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,240 Speaker 20: I also think you have to do that same each year. 1327 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 20: Your approach and process is the same. Every player has 1328 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:08,440 Speaker 20: strengths and weaknesses, and we have to determine, you know, 1329 00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,600 Speaker 20: what we can live with and what we can't. One 1330 00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 20: trait that I'm really excited about all these quarterbacks have, 1331 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:15,919 Speaker 20: at least at the top of the draft is they're 1332 00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 20: all really tough guys. So you know, that's a great 1333 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,480 Speaker 20: place to start at any position, but particularly quarterback. As 1334 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 20: the defensive lineman get faster and stronger, and these guys 1335 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 20: get hit more often, and you know, durability is really important. 1336 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 21: So yeah, guy like Jayden Daniels, though maybe a little 1337 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 21: bit too wiley coyote sometimes that I'm just saying that 1338 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 21: you don't have to say that. 1339 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 4: We'll just let that one Hank. 1340 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 5: Just regards to the process here where we're gonna get 1341 00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,439 Speaker 5: to hear from the guys at the podium, you guys 1342 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:42,960 Speaker 5: will get to talk to them. Behind the scenes, We'll 1343 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,080 Speaker 5: see plenty of testing numbers. Someone will probably run a 1344 00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 5: four too something and everyone will be talking about them. 1345 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 5: Just for you and your perspective, what's the most useful 1346 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,000 Speaker 5: part of this weekend in terms of stacking that draft 1347 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:52,960 Speaker 5: board and figuring out. 1348 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:54,080 Speaker 4: What's going to fit you guys best. 1349 00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 20: Probably not a real sexy answer, but I would say 1350 00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,400 Speaker 20: the medical information. Just being able to get medical information 1351 01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,640 Speaker 20: and history and all these guys is really important because 1352 01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:05,720 Speaker 20: it helps us determine, you know, who's a risk, who's 1353 01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 20: not a risk, and you know who we can live 1354 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:08,000 Speaker 20: with and who we can. 1355 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,000 Speaker 21: So a couple more franchise tag I'm just curious. You know, 1356 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 21: you got a couple guys, Kyle dug or Mike Onwen 1357 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 21: who are two really good players last couple of years. 1358 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 21: Is that something that you would not like to use, 1359 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 21: Like I feel like it's a it's a big cap 1360 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 21: number to be holding for a one year on your team, 1361 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,200 Speaker 21: So how do you view the franchise tag as just 1362 01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 21: a mechanism, not necessarily about those specifics. 1363 01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,760 Speaker 20: Yeah, I would say, I would say it's an option, 1364 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,120 Speaker 20: and we'll keep all options open. We're going to try 1365 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 20: and do it's best for the team. Sometimes you know 1366 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 20: that that may hurt some feelings or maybe something where 1367 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 20: you know nobody wants us to use it. But I 1368 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 20: think I think everything is on the table and open 1369 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 20: at this point. And just in regards to those guys specifically, 1370 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 20: I mean, we'd love to keep those guys. Those guys 1371 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 20: are part of our core and we're excited to continue 1372 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 20: to work with them to try to make that happen. 1373 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 4: Just one more for me. You said you've been coming 1374 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,080 Speaker 4: here for thirty years. 1375 01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 5: You're about to take the pollodium, as you know, representing 1376 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 5: the Patriots. Just you know, what does that mean for 1377 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 5: you to be able to stand up there and represent 1378 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 5: the team and take a bunch of questions from us. 1379 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,200 Speaker 20: Yeah, thank you for asking that. No, it's a tremendous opportunity. 1380 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,480 Speaker 20: I want to thank Robert and Jonathan Kraft for you know, 1381 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,280 Speaker 20: allowing me this opportunity and to work together with Girods 1382 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:17,640 Speaker 20: has been really exciting. So far, and it's almost surreal. 1383 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,160 Speaker 20: It almost feels like because I guess historically the Patriots 1384 01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:23,800 Speaker 20: haven't had somebody at the podium, people are more excited 1385 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 20: about that than me specifically, which in some ways takes 1386 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,240 Speaker 20: the pressure off. But no, it's I'm excited for it, 1387 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 20: and I'm ready for this opportunity. And you know, Jidd 1388 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,000 Speaker 20: and I are gonna and Matt grow as well, are 1389 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,080 Speaker 20: gonna work together to try to keep this thing rolling. 1390 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 11: Yeah. 1391 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,680 Speaker 1: Third, overall, pick, I'll end it there. 1392 01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 21: Obviously, I'm not gonna ask you who you're taking, but 1393 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 21: how far along would you say in the process you 1394 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 21: are now to determining who you know, the couple guys 1395 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:49,680 Speaker 21: are that you guys might target with that pick. 1396 01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1397 01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,600 Speaker 20: I mean, obviously the game film is an important piece 1398 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,760 Speaker 20: of that, but we haven't even met or I personally 1399 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,480 Speaker 20: haven't met any of these guys yet, so neither is Girodd. 1400 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,880 Speaker 20: So we'll continue to work through the problems, and I 1401 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,880 Speaker 20: would say we're on the on the fringes of being 1402 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 20: able to determine that and the answer is the best 1403 01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,040 Speaker 20: available player. 1404 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,320 Speaker 21: Yeah, Because with quarterbacks specifically too, it seems like this 1405 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,120 Speaker 21: part of the process matters a lot right because of 1406 01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 21: the mental the leadership, all. 1407 01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 20: That kind of stuff, exactly exactly. And that's again a quarterback. 1408 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,480 Speaker 20: It doesn't matter, but it matters at every position as well. 1409 01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:23,320 Speaker 4: So all right, Ellie, well, thank you so much for 1410 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:24,040 Speaker 4: sitting down with us. 1411 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 5: You said you get to represent that the team at 1412 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 5: the podium. We have never had someone sit down with us, 1413 01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 5: so thank you for taking the time. 1414 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. 1415 01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 20: Yeah, of course, yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for 1416 01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 20: having me. 1417 01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:32,000 Speaker 1: All right. 1418 01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,080 Speaker 22: When someone accidentally threw away the school play. 1419 01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:38,080 Speaker 1: Costumes, oh no. 1420 01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,720 Speaker 22: Replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery, 1421 01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 22: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where 1422 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,440 Speaker 22: now it's next for residential delivery. 1423 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 2: Only and now great moments in history. You never get 1424 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 2: into what is that hideous shirt you're wearing? 1425 01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,600 Speaker 4: It come with the frog color chartruse. 1426 01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,240 Speaker 1: It's a polo. It's a green polo. That's not green. 1427 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,520 Speaker 1: It is green, and it's mustard all over the front 1428 01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: of it. 1429 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,360 Speaker 4: So it's like almost like the color of my Greenysmith apple. 1430 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 1: But that's not green, that's linen chartreuse. That's a good 1431 01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:14,880 Speaker 1: point ugly shirt distracts people from his face. 1432 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,520 Speaker 2: Wow, Wow. 1433 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's just so mean. I can't believe you've ruined that. Wow, 1434 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:23,840 Speaker 1: what is that bag that you're wearing. 1435 01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,280 Speaker 2: That's another great moment from. 1436 01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,160 Speaker 1: One of the rare times they had to defend Eric. 1437 01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,840 Speaker 6: I know that was kind of strange. 1438 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,280 Speaker 1: Andy. The truth is never mean, but how it's presented 1439 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,600 Speaker 1: can be mean. Well. 1440 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 9: Plus, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the truth right because 1441 01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 9: you think it's right. 1442 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: Uh, you know what. The show's brought to you by 1443 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,880 Speaker 1: the Massachusetts Office of Travel and Tourism. Great memories are 1444 01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:49,600 Speaker 1: made in Massachusetts, no matter how you choose to make them, 1445 01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,960 Speaker 1: indoors or outdoors, scenic views of city, vibes, solar or 1446 01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,600 Speaker 1: family style, whatever moves you, whatever the season, plan your 1447 01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,760 Speaker 1: perfect Massachusetts get away and visit m A dot com. 1448 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 6: So there, okay, yeah, yeah. 1449 01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: What were we talking about during the break? 1450 01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,800 Speaker 9: I was asking about some schools I hit I think 1451 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:12,600 Speaker 9: seven schools. 1452 01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,880 Speaker 1: Yeah down there. The school was cool. 1453 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1454 01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,240 Speaker 1: I didn't go that crazy because my kid couldn't get 1455 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,160 Speaker 1: into into any of them. 1456 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 6: Anyways. 1457 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, TJ will have some options. I don't think he'll have, 1458 01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 9: you know, unlimited options. He's not that level of student, 1459 01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:26,320 Speaker 9: but he'll have some options. 1460 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:26,920 Speaker 6: We went to. 1461 01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 9: The College of Charleston, the Citadel South Carolina, North Carolina, 1462 01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 9: North Carolina State elon high Point Coastal Carolina. 1463 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,160 Speaker 1: So on the way there Paul got a speeding ticket. 1464 01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,840 Speaker 1: We had on the way back a couple people have 1465 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 1: some advice for Paul. 1466 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 6: This is I brought it up for a reason. I 1467 01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:48,200 Speaker 6: didn't think you guys would let me down. 1468 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,880 Speaker 1: Mark says, I suggest you fight the Virginia ticket, as 1469 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:55,160 Speaker 1: anything over eighty is a misdemeanor in Virginia. There are 1470 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: lawyers that specialize that in that area that won't cost 1471 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:00,840 Speaker 1: that much, and it's so worth for them to plead 1472 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: it down for you. I drive back and forth from 1473 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,200 Speaker 1: North Carolina to New York, so I'm very familiar. Thanks 1474 01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,640 Speaker 1: for all you do. I'm an avid listener of the 1475 01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:14,760 Speaker 1: team's best. So he says anything over eighty is a misdemeanordy, 1476 01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:20,600 Speaker 1: so you should, and then Ned in North Carolina says 1477 01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: sorry about your speed trap experience. In Virginia, speeding tickets 1478 01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: are a little different in the South. You can choose 1479 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:28,080 Speaker 1: to just pay the fine and be done with it, 1480 01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: or you can pay a lawyer to negotiate the ticket 1481 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,040 Speaker 1: down to an equipment violation. You'll spend about the same 1482 01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 1: on the lawyer who will go to court for you 1483 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: and negotiate with the DA. You'll have to pay a 1484 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:42,000 Speaker 1: thirty dollars equipment violation fee and one hundred and twenty 1485 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: five dollars court costs. The cost will be a wash 1486 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: for you, but a lawyer gets most of the money 1487 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,600 Speaker 1: and you don't deal with the points. You'll probably start 1488 01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,200 Speaker 1: receiving solicitations from Virginia lawyer soon. 1489 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,840 Speaker 3: Okay, maybe someone will take it on pro bono for 1490 01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 3: the publicity for you. 1491 01:05:58,560 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 6: Do you know who I am? 1492 01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: So if there's anyone from Virginia who is a lawyer 1493 01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,240 Speaker 1: or has a lawyer in the family and. 1494 01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,880 Speaker 6: You're telling me I don't have to appear right, you 1495 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,640 Speaker 6: don't go down there. Yeah. 1496 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 1: So for a couple hundred bucks, you can get it 1497 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 1: and not have the points on your on your bill. 1498 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,720 Speaker 8: Probably save in the long run. 1499 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,480 Speaker 1: I thought, I thought it wasn't a speeding ticket. But 1500 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: I I was going like ten miles an hour around 1501 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: a curb and my tire hit the curb and it 1502 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: was like an old curb that was all messed up 1503 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,000 Speaker 1: and blew out my tire like destroyed my door like 1504 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 1: ten miles an hour. So I filed a claim because 1505 01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 1: it was a lot of damage, and uh, my insurance 1506 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,360 Speaker 1: company jacked my coss up, you know. So I I 1507 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:45,960 Speaker 1: I challenged it and had my hearing online and I 1508 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:50,240 Speaker 1: won and they took all the they reduced my PREMI 1509 01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,600 Speaker 1: no I didn't. I didn't, but they reduced my premium. 1510 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:57,439 Speaker 1: I didn't get the points. So sometimes you get a fight. Yeah, 1511 01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, so just think about it, Pauli, paul I Will. 1512 01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 6: I am thinking about it because the guy was very 1513 01:07:05,840 --> 01:07:09,680 Speaker 6: quick to like, yeah, you know you're going to fat. 1514 01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 6: You know, I got it down to eighty five. 1515 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:12,560 Speaker 1: You know. 1516 01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:14,960 Speaker 9: I was like this, it was a lot of vagaries 1517 01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,200 Speaker 9: when he when he did it, and then he came 1518 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 9: back and he's like, oh, you have a spotless driving record. 1519 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,320 Speaker 9: I'm like, well, yeah, well maybe maybe that was a 1520 01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:26,720 Speaker 9: clue to you to keep it spotless by challenging it. 1521 01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, like sometimes these guys, I. 1522 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 9: Would like to challenge it, but I just don't know. 1523 01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 9: Like I have to I have to look at it. 1524 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 9: It's still in BET's glove compartment. 1525 01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 6: I have to take it out. 1526 01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Okay. Lawyers alert Paul needs help in Virginia. 1527 01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:44,160 Speaker 9: So and you know, you have to understand who you're 1528 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,160 Speaker 9: dealing with too. If you are willing to provide any help, 1529 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,080 Speaker 9: you realize that means you do it all all for 1530 01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,080 Speaker 9: me because I am incompetent. 1531 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 6: Everybody knows this. You all I know how to do 1532 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 6: is this. I have no other skills. 1533 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know TV remote, you're the king of that. 1534 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:03,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, even that, Like everything's streaming now, Fred, it's taking. 1535 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,600 Speaker 1: Away all my super power right into it. 1536 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 9: My superpowers are gone when you when you're streaming, it 1537 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 9: can't change channels. 1538 01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:09,800 Speaker 1: You're entering that third party. 1539 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,440 Speaker 6: Oh here's a good third party. 1540 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:15,880 Speaker 1: So I went to this resort in Mexico, all inclusive thing, 1541 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:20,200 Speaker 1: adults only. You know, first day the restaurant, we got 1542 01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,400 Speaker 1: in like in late afternoon, had something to go back 1543 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,080 Speaker 1: to the room, turn the TV on. The first thing 1544 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: we got hit hit with with three channels of porn 1545 01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: and I mean hardcore real Yeah, like this guy was 1546 01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,720 Speaker 1: just going at it with this and like. 1547 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 6: You really were lying on the beach drilling for oil. 1548 01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:41,200 Speaker 1: So let's change the channel another one. 1549 01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,280 Speaker 3: But imagine if I guess it's adults. 1550 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, three channels in a row of like the hardest 1551 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,960 Speaker 1: of hardcore porns. So we had it. We called the hotel. 1552 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:50,599 Speaker 1: We had it Blonde. 1553 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 3: Oh my god, what if you're doing like a family 1554 01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 3: vacation with like your grandparents, you set up grandma in 1555 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 3: this room and all Grandma. 1556 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,240 Speaker 6: I've never heard of such a that's amazing. 1557 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's a Mexico thing or not, 1558 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 1: but it was like whoa in your. 1559 01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,519 Speaker 3: Face and you're trying to get away, and then the. 1560 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 1: Next channel and then the next channel. Right. 1561 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,320 Speaker 3: Oh god, yeah, so that was I'm scared. 1562 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:19,919 Speaker 1: That was interesting. Let's get back to the phones. 1563 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 6: So you guys stay in there. 1564 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:22,840 Speaker 8: Never know what you're gonna get on this show. 1565 01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:27,240 Speaker 6: Tickets Christian did Jake Did Jake Steele stay. 1566 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:31,080 Speaker 1: In that night? No? No, I'm not, like I'm not 1567 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:31,679 Speaker 1: into porn. 1568 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 6: I'm really not. 1569 01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,960 Speaker 1: It's like watching animals. 1570 01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 8: Ruin me, you know, it's like it's ruining our men. 1571 01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: I like, I like to do it, but I don't need. 1572 01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't need to watch anyone else doing it like 1573 01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't maybe like Jake Steele or something like that 1574 01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:50,439 Speaker 1: doesn't turn me on. 1575 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:54,400 Speaker 8: You know, like that's probably a good thing. 1576 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: All that Genitalia is like. 1577 01:09:57,160 --> 01:10:00,000 Speaker 7: You know, Jesus Julians on day two? 1578 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:00,639 Speaker 4: You back here? 1579 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome? How you doing? 1580 01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:06,759 Speaker 3: Oh my god, we're on boarding. 1581 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're on boarding. A new employee Jewels Jewels, call 1582 01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:14,360 Speaker 1: her right, Jewels. So I hope I didn't offend you Jewels. 1583 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:18,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, it's always better to ask after you do 1584 01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:18,639 Speaker 9: the offending. 1585 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:21,439 Speaker 1: I'll get a call from HR right. 1586 01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:22,519 Speaker 6: You're not offended, are you? 1587 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:22,640 Speaker 1: No? 1588 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:23,280 Speaker 6: I didn't think so. 1589 01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:25,639 Speaker 3: She has like her one week new higher meeting. 1590 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 8: How's it been going? Well? 1591 01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,880 Speaker 6: Well, the porn talk was off putting. 1592 01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:32,439 Speaker 1: Otherwise, Matthews in New Mexico? 1593 01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:32,880 Speaker 6: What's up? 1594 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,920 Speaker 1: Matthew? Everybody all right? 1595 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,920 Speaker 23: Well, before we get to the dack A free agency. 1596 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 1: I'm we're having trouble hearing you. 1597 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 6: No, I can hear you. 1598 01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: I can't. What's going on here? 1599 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:57,080 Speaker 23: And maybe Lugarious need I think that'd be good Paramo 1600 01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 23: Christian dollars. But Brian fosh Allen and my other question 1601 01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:07,000 Speaker 23: is for the draft, like we know the three quarterbacks, 1602 01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:09,880 Speaker 23: but especially Paul, like Paul, who is your. 1603 01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:13,559 Speaker 1: Q four to be four minus Pennick? 1604 01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:15,320 Speaker 6: I think Pennix two. 1605 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:16,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1606 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,400 Speaker 9: Now, everybody else says McCarthy. Yeah, everybody else likes McCarthy. 1607 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,799 Speaker 9: I gotta be honest with you. I'm not overly interested 1608 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,160 Speaker 9: in four five, six set. Like I just think the 1609 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,720 Speaker 9: further you go down, you're just you're that's sort of 1610 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 9: a lottery take. You're rolling the dice. You know, chances 1611 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 9: are those top three. Now, it's not automatic. I gave 1612 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,719 Speaker 9: you some some results in the past where the best 1613 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:44,800 Speaker 9: quarterback isn't always taken, you know, you know, at the top. 1614 01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 9: But I just feel like these three guys, the chances 1615 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,080 Speaker 9: are the best quarterback in this class will be one 1616 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:52,480 Speaker 9: of those three guys. 1617 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 1: But people like like you said, Paul, people from Michigan 1618 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: are telling everyone I'm here going to be surprised by JJ. 1619 01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,280 Speaker 6: I'm hearing a lot about j McCarthy. 1620 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Matthew, appreciate the call. Let's go to 1621 01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:08,599 Speaker 1: Christian in LA. What's up Christian? 1622 01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 18: Hey you guys, A long time, no no talk to 1623 01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 18: It turns out that my phone was lost. I got 1624 01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,559 Speaker 18: ANEW and for some reasons, the number is all showed 1625 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,920 Speaker 18: up without the name, and so I think I'm like 1626 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,360 Speaker 18: a lot of people these days, if you don't know 1627 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:29,479 Speaker 18: the person's number by heart, you just don't know their number, 1628 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:30,400 Speaker 18: you just know them by name. 1629 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:30,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 1630 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:32,640 Speaker 18: So I've been trying to call you, guys, but I 1631 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,360 Speaker 18: was reaching a number that was constantly busy, and I 1632 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,000 Speaker 18: just figured, okay, people are calling in. I just found 1633 01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 18: out to you I have to row number for the 1634 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 18: last two months. 1635 01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:40,439 Speaker 4: Oh wow. 1636 01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:48,760 Speaker 18: So, anyway to football. A couple of weeks ago, you 1637 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:52,880 Speaker 18: guys were talking about girod Mayo being selected as the 1638 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 18: coach of the team, and the one consistent thing that 1639 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 18: came up was what is his vision? And I don't 1640 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,920 Speaker 18: know that that you guys really took him to task 1641 01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:06,400 Speaker 18: for that. I always thought, my belief that the first 1642 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:11,000 Speaker 18: thing that an owner organization would ask a potential coach 1643 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:13,200 Speaker 18: when he sat down with him is what is your 1644 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:15,559 Speaker 18: vision for this team's offense? What is your vision for 1645 01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,599 Speaker 18: this team's defense? What is your vision for the team's culture. 1646 01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,880 Speaker 18: The fact that he had no immediate answers to that 1647 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 18: when you guys said and I do believe that he 1648 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,759 Speaker 18: had been selected or groomed to be the next coach 1649 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,800 Speaker 18: for about a year a year and a half prior 1650 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,920 Speaker 18: to that, it seems like something missing from that story. 1651 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:35,720 Speaker 18: If you have a year and a half. But you 1652 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 18: know you're going to be the coach of this team 1653 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 18: that's ailing or struggling whatever, when you sit down for 1654 01:13:41,240 --> 01:13:45,200 Speaker 18: that first meeting, wouldn't you expect that guy, if he's 1655 01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 18: going to be successful, to at least have a vision 1656 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:51,240 Speaker 18: of what he believes that the offense or defense should 1657 01:13:51,240 --> 01:13:53,639 Speaker 18: look like. Well, we'll see what kind of talent begain 1658 01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 18: and then we'll make a decision. That's the first point. 1659 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 18: I would love to hear that from you guys. Talk 1660 01:13:57,680 --> 01:13:58,040 Speaker 18: about that. 1661 01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1662 01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 18: Secondly, my draft so is take Harrison at number three, 1663 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,760 Speaker 18: see if we can know you guys can put poot 1664 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 18: in it in a little way, but see if we 1665 01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:10,559 Speaker 18: can pick up Field and then but I was a 1666 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:14,400 Speaker 18: second pick, Grab grab the best tackle you can and 1667 01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 18: then you know, go from there. 1668 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thanks. Did you hear what? I don't 1669 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:23,519 Speaker 1: know where I heard this or Chicago's asking for fields 1670 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,679 Speaker 1: like they're looking for three first round picks. 1671 01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 6: I did not hear that. 1672 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:30,400 Speaker 1: But I've been like this year and in future years. 1673 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 6: I did not hear that. That's that can't be right, 1674 01:14:33,040 --> 01:14:35,720 Speaker 6: It's crazy, right, I don't think anybody will give them 1675 01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:36,519 Speaker 6: one first round. 1676 01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,280 Speaker 1: Right, Like? Correct me? If I'm wrong, anyone if you 1677 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: heard the same. 1678 01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 9: Report, like Chicago, sure, this isn't the Justin Jefferson trade, 1679 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 9: that they're looking for three round pill that the team 1680 01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 9: like the Patriots would be No. 1681 01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 1: I heard from what I heard, the Patriots are asking 1682 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: for three first round picks to get to three right, Right, 1683 01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:57,240 Speaker 1: that's different. 1684 01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 6: Okay, that's that's why the three first round picks. 1685 01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:00,160 Speaker 1: No. 1686 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,519 Speaker 6: I hate when people characterize it. It's not three first round. 1687 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,519 Speaker 9: Picks, it's two, right, because switching spots, that's not acquiring 1688 01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:07,280 Speaker 9: a first round pick. 1689 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, you already have a first round pick. 1690 01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:12,280 Speaker 9: You're giving it to the other team for their pick, right, 1691 01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,000 Speaker 9: So you're getting So I just think that some of 1692 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 9: the compensation packages I've seen for that proposed trade with 1693 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,479 Speaker 9: Justin Jefferson, I mean, I don't know. I guess there 1694 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:23,519 Speaker 9: must be some validity to it somewhere, but I think 1695 01:15:23,560 --> 01:15:26,240 Speaker 9: it's insane if Minnesota does that, to move up eight 1696 01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:28,679 Speaker 9: spots and give up two first round picks, a second 1697 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 9: round pick and Justin Jefferson. 1698 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:31,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, like that's insane. 1699 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, that is like, what are you going to get 1700 01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 9: in the draft that's better than just Justin Jefferson. 1701 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,639 Speaker 1: There's no way, Why would you do that unless he 1702 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:39,519 Speaker 1: has told them. 1703 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,559 Speaker 6: I'm not telling you they're insane for trying to trade them. 1704 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, but to give up that much, But why. 1705 01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,920 Speaker 9: Would you give Like I think if you're going to 1706 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:50,280 Speaker 9: give up justin Jefferson, that should lower the pack the price. 1707 01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 9: It is right to move up eight spots. He's like 1708 01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 9: first round like the Niners. Well, he's more than a 1709 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:58,200 Speaker 9: first round pick in and of itself. He's a round pick. 1710 01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,640 Speaker 9: He's a dominant player. 1711 01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,280 Speaker 1: He's a he's a plus one. 1712 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 6: How many first round picks were better than him last 1713 01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 6: better than a first round pick? 1714 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 3: Well, I'm looking at a report now that says the 1715 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:10,200 Speaker 3: Vikings number one goal this offseason by far is to 1716 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,240 Speaker 3: get a long term deal done with you see. 1717 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that's what they want to do. 1718 01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 9: And I know that Jefferson has said something to them 1719 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:20,040 Speaker 9: about wanting to know more information what their plan is 1720 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:20,719 Speaker 9: a quarterback? 1721 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,440 Speaker 6: You know, are they going to resign Cousins? 1722 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:25,960 Speaker 9: Are they going to try to draft somebody like before yeah, 1723 01:16:25,960 --> 01:16:28,200 Speaker 9: before he signs. I would think that's what they want 1724 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,760 Speaker 9: to do. But like I think San Francisco went from 1725 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:34,280 Speaker 9: twelve to three in the Trey Lance thing, and they 1726 01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 9: gave up a couple of first a couple of seconds, 1727 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:36,880 Speaker 9: but they. 1728 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:38,839 Speaker 6: Didn't give up an all par player. 1729 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,280 Speaker 8: Yeah. 1730 01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,519 Speaker 9: Like, I think people are just saying, well, that's what 1731 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 9: it cost the Niners to go up nine spots right 1732 01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:45,840 Speaker 9: for a quarterback. 1733 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:47,719 Speaker 6: But I don't think it's the same. 1734 01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 1: No, No, Justin Jefferson is. 1735 01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,280 Speaker 9: Like, how many first round picks the last five years 1736 01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:55,200 Speaker 9: have been better than that? I mean, I'm not telling 1737 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,519 Speaker 9: you that he's the best, right, but how many first 1738 01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:01,120 Speaker 9: round picks? So that's thirty two? You know, you were 1739 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 9: talking about one hundred and fifty players. How many were 1740 01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 9: better than him that would take it in the in 1741 01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,200 Speaker 9: the last five years, right, agreed? 1742 01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,960 Speaker 1: Let's see. Donovan writes in and he says, today I 1743 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,880 Speaker 1: woke up innocent and wide eyed, with no knowledge of 1744 01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 1: Fred's sexual preferences. Tomorrow I wake up a changed man. Football. 1745 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,439 Speaker 1: Andy Hart and his podcast crew, Kadlick and others are 1746 01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 1: leaning on may and McCarthy. Would you guys take JJ 1747 01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:27,960 Speaker 1: if may Go's one or two, or would you rather 1748 01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:31,000 Speaker 1: trade down to seven or ten? At that point, I 1749 01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:33,400 Speaker 1: think you could trade down and get McCart. 1750 01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,080 Speaker 9: I don't want to trade down and get the quarterback 1751 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 9: if I want. If I like the quarterback, I'll take them. 1752 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:41,080 Speaker 9: But I need to do more work on McCarthy. I 1753 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:43,280 Speaker 9: haven't really haven't really done any work on any of 1754 01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,519 Speaker 9: these guys, but I'm less familiar with him because he 1755 01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:48,439 Speaker 9: doesn't throw the ball. The other guys you know, you 1756 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,240 Speaker 9: see them. The offenses are centering around them, and you 1757 01:17:51,280 --> 01:17:54,120 Speaker 9: get to see them throwing and being, you know, the 1758 01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,559 Speaker 9: focal point of everything. And McCarthy's not that. 1759 01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 3: You can't just settle to to if your guys not there, 1760 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:01,120 Speaker 3: you can't just settle. 1761 01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:03,720 Speaker 8: For the next And there's bad if you're not sold. 1762 01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,839 Speaker 3: Because if you don't get that right, you put yourself 1763 01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,320 Speaker 3: back at least four years. 1764 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 6: So there's a bad history. 1765 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,559 Speaker 1: What coach would know J. J. McCarthy better than any 1766 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:16,360 Speaker 1: other coach in the NFL Jim Harbor, right, So if 1767 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,040 Speaker 1: he's that good, take him and trade Herbert for a 1768 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,479 Speaker 1: boatload and build your team forever. 1769 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:25,600 Speaker 6: But that's dumb. Why because why does he have to 1770 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 6: be better than Herbert. 1771 01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm not getting rid of Herbert unless he is. 1772 01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,479 Speaker 9: No, But that's what I'm saying, Like, so Harbor not 1773 01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,600 Speaker 9: doing that isn't. It isn't like a slam on that. 1774 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,639 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it is. I'm saying if Herbert's really good. 1775 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,840 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, if he's that good, Harbaugh would know it, 1776 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,200 Speaker 1: and he'd be the one trade Herbert to the Patriots. 1777 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 1: I'm in Oh, I'm for that. I'm for that. What 1778 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:51,760 Speaker 1: would you give up? I give him, give him the 1779 01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,400 Speaker 1: first easy, you know, start there? You need more? Yeah, 1780 01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:57,680 Speaker 1: because he's approven first round talent, you know. 1781 01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:03,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, I agree. The history of trading down and taking 1782 01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:04,920 Speaker 9: a quarterback is not good. 1783 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:06,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, looked it up. 1784 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:11,599 Speaker 9: Yeah, there's I actually saw our boy Alex Barth had 1785 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,160 Speaker 9: a tweet about it, But I did look it up 1786 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,200 Speaker 9: for that sheet that I always pull out. 1787 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 6: You know, guys like EJ. Manuel. Yeah, you know, those 1788 01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,160 Speaker 6: are the kinds of guys you trade down. Yeah, Oh 1789 01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 6: we can get him. 1790 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the reason why you can. 1791 01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:24,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why. 1792 01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 9: Like, if you want a guy, if you like McCarthy 1793 01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:27,960 Speaker 9: and you want to take him at eight, take him 1794 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:28,280 Speaker 9: at three. 1795 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:29,040 Speaker 6: What's the difference. 1796 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, Adams in California, what's up that? Oh he's gone 1797 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: hold over from the hardy days. Ben's in Connecticut? What's 1798 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:38,559 Speaker 1: up Ben. 1799 01:19:40,360 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 6: Ben Ben Fred Fred working his magic on the phone line. 1800 01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,839 Speaker 1: Ben's gone, uh uh oh, we got tea from Virginia. 1801 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:50,519 Speaker 1: What's up Tea? 1802 01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:54,200 Speaker 6: Oh? Te what's up? 1803 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:56,320 Speaker 3: Hey? 1804 01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 11: So I was thinking my questions pertaining to the dress 1805 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,400 Speaker 11: number three overall pick. I'd be fine with any of 1806 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:06,799 Speaker 11: the quarterbacks, but I really love to see Marvin Harrison 1807 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,880 Speaker 11: Junior with us. My question, I'm biased because I'm a 1808 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:11,800 Speaker 11: Florida State fan, but what do you think about maybe 1809 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,960 Speaker 11: third or fourth round picking up a guy like Jordan Travis. 1810 01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:19,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I like Travis, but you have not 1811 01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,639 Speaker 9: solved your quarterback problem. Well you might know the chances 1812 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,960 Speaker 9: of that are very very slim. Why because this very 1813 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:28,680 Speaker 9: slim chance that a fourth round pick is going to 1814 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:29,879 Speaker 9: be your quarterback's a fourth. 1815 01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:33,200 Speaker 1: Round pick because he got hurt right, No, no, small? Okay, 1816 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:34,400 Speaker 1: I thought he was really good. 1817 01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 6: He is in college. 1818 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:41,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, I like him, Okay, but he's you know, I 1819 01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 9: don't know how high he would have been drafted, but 1820 01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:44,840 Speaker 9: he would not be one of these guys that you're 1821 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:45,840 Speaker 9: talking about in the top three. 1822 01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,599 Speaker 1: No, No, he wouldn't. He could be a. 1823 01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,240 Speaker 6: First round I don't like. 1824 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:52,599 Speaker 9: I mean, I'll defer to people that know this stuff. 1825 01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:55,080 Speaker 9: I don't look at him that way. Yeah, I don't 1826 01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,679 Speaker 9: think that he was a first round pick, but maybe 1827 01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,000 Speaker 9: he would. 1828 01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:57,760 Speaker 6: Maybe he would have been. 1829 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you any good lawyers in Virginia? Yeah, so I was. 1830 01:21:02,120 --> 01:21:04,120 Speaker 6: When I heard there was a Virginia caller, I thought 1831 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:04,640 Speaker 6: I was going to. 1832 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,040 Speaker 14: Be, uh, pretty strict. 1833 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:11,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh well, all right, Paul Paul looking down the 1834 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,479 Speaker 1: barrel of the law in Virginia. 1835 01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:16,760 Speaker 9: I don't really even against it. I don't really even 1836 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:18,680 Speaker 9: mind paying whatever the fine is. 1837 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:21,080 Speaker 6: I just it's the insurance that on right, you know. 1838 01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,440 Speaker 1: It thinks and pleas. It's a misdemeanor. 1839 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:24,720 Speaker 6: I don't care about that. 1840 01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:26,920 Speaker 1: Do something else in Virginia. You could end up in 1841 01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:31,400 Speaker 1: the pokey I like, honestly, I don't really Paul gets 1842 01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:35,000 Speaker 1: arrested because loser Palooza. 1843 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:36,920 Speaker 6: What state is they used to be in Virginia? 1844 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:38,719 Speaker 8: Would you call into the show from jail? 1845 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:40,639 Speaker 1: You're one call. 1846 01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:44,479 Speaker 8: I would, just because I'm a company girl. For the ratings. 1847 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know how that works for the ratings. 1848 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,720 Speaker 1: But no, Plus, I think in prison it's pepsi, it's 1849 01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:51,280 Speaker 1: not coke. 1850 01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:53,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, well that's good, that's good for you. 1851 01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:57,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you might like it be all right, Yeah, 1852 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 1: Mason's in Ohio. What's up Mason? 1853 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:02,400 Speaker 17: First five? 1854 01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:03,760 Speaker 1: How's it going good? 1855 01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,080 Speaker 18: So obviously being in the Columbus, I believe scarletting Gray. 1856 01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:10,200 Speaker 18: But I'm not gonna ask about Marvin Harrison. I wanted 1857 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:11,920 Speaker 18: to ask about Kate's dover and. 1858 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,479 Speaker 19: Wondering if you guys think it'd be a good idea 1859 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,519 Speaker 19: to double up on young talent further than tight ending position. 1860 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,320 Speaker 1: I don't know so much about him, but what are 1861 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:26,160 Speaker 1: we doubling up on tight end with whom Henry? Well, 1862 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 1: they don't have Hunter Henry. 1863 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:28,760 Speaker 6: Henry is not on the team. 1864 01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,080 Speaker 1: He's assuming they're going to get him. I think that's 1865 01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:31,960 Speaker 1: a wild assumption. 1866 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:36,200 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean they don't have any tight 1867 01:22:36,280 --> 01:22:39,320 Speaker 9: ends right now, so I think tight end should be 1868 01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,519 Speaker 9: a strong consideration. You know, day two three, early day 1869 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:46,920 Speaker 9: three in the draft. Absolutely, and you know more about 1870 01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,080 Speaker 9: obviously the Ohio State guy than I do. 1871 01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:49,920 Speaker 6: Evan's not here. 1872 01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 9: He can't regale you with this his forty times and whatnot. 1873 01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 9: But yeah, I think to tight end is a major need. 1874 01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 9: They don't have any, they don't have any under contract. 1875 01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 9: And I'm sorry if Hunter Henry resigns you still you 1876 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 9: really don't have tight ends like at some point you need. 1877 01:23:07,439 --> 01:23:10,320 Speaker 9: And that's no disrespect to the ability. Henry's been a 1878 01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:13,479 Speaker 9: good player. But you know my point is when this 1879 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,880 Speaker 9: team is in contention again, Hunter Henry won't be part 1880 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,400 Speaker 9: of it, right if you resign them, like, you need 1881 01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,800 Speaker 9: to find some young talent, like Elliot Wolf said today. 1882 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 1: Thanks Mason, My I got a bad connection here on 1883 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:29,920 Speaker 1: my headphone, I mean my U and the headphone like 1884 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,400 Speaker 1: I move it and I can't hear breaking down here. 1885 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 1: We had to put the monitor. We need new equipment, Matt, 1886 01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:39,280 Speaker 1: you know that's shaking his head. Yes, he knows. 1887 01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,760 Speaker 6: Uh, you're gonna get Picasso new equipment. He's looking forward to. 1888 01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:48,960 Speaker 1: We need an equipment refresh, right, guy, let's see Craig 1889 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,760 Speaker 1: and Charlotte says the underrated part of last week's show 1890 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:55,360 Speaker 1: was when Alex or maybe Tamara tried to call her 1891 01:23:55,439 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 1: Germany trip to McDonald's like an anthropology experiment. Don't try 1892 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,439 Speaker 1: to church it up. What does that mean? 1893 01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:05,320 Speaker 8: I don't understand. Don't try to church it up. 1894 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,479 Speaker 3: But I was talking about how the McDonald's is in 1895 01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:12,040 Speaker 3: different company or different countries. They all offer different menu items. 1896 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,799 Speaker 3: It's like an anthropology lesson really, because I went. 1897 01:24:14,680 --> 01:24:17,400 Speaker 1: To McDonald's twice in Munich, thank god for it, and 1898 01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 1: it was the same big mac French fries. 1899 01:24:19,720 --> 01:24:24,320 Speaker 3: There was Frankfurt, there was different menu items. Really, Matisse 1900 01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,960 Speaker 3: got something funky. Well, we were talking about how Tamara, 1901 01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,400 Speaker 3: Matisa and I went to McDonald's just to see what 1902 01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,920 Speaker 3: was on the menu, and we happened to walk out, 1903 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,120 Speaker 3: and of course it's Devin McCarty walking us all or not, Devin, 1904 01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,200 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Jason McCarty watches us all walk out of 1905 01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:42,400 Speaker 3: McDonald's and just ruthlessly shamed us for all the food 1906 01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:43,320 Speaker 3: we could have been eating. 1907 01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:44,400 Speaker 8: But we went to McDonald's. 1908 01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:46,040 Speaker 1: Well, I was like when I was in Munich, we 1909 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 1: were there for the whole week and like you know, 1910 01:24:48,120 --> 01:24:50,920 Speaker 1: you're in a hurry. Yeah, So like it's like, thank 1911 01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 1: god for McDonald's. I ate there twice. It was good. 1912 01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:54,080 Speaker 8: It was good. 1913 01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,840 Speaker 3: It tastes like it used to taste when I was 1914 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 3: like little and it was exciting to go there. Now 1915 01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,160 Speaker 3: it tastes like fake and chemicals. 1916 01:25:01,439 --> 01:25:04,479 Speaker 1: But Craig has a question. There's reports that left tackle 1917 01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: David Baktari could be a cap casualty in Green Bay. 1918 01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,280 Speaker 1: Should the Patriots be interested if he shakes loose? He's 1919 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:11,840 Speaker 1: thirty two. 1920 01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm not overly interested in that. Yeah, I mean, good, 1921 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,519 Speaker 9: good player, but thirty two, I'm not really interested in that. 1922 01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,120 Speaker 1: Okay, personally, I just got word from Matt Morrell that 1923 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 1: Evan and Deuce are ready to go, So let's get 1924 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,360 Speaker 1: them poted up. 1925 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 6: Obviously they have nothing else to do. 1926 01:25:32,200 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 1: Come on us, all right, Hey, look at we can 1927 01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,320 Speaker 1: see him that. I love the old school. 1928 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:39,680 Speaker 6: Do you guys buy that backdrop when you were out there? 1929 01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,680 Speaker 1: Did you buy that at the Silvenir store or what? 1930 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,160 Speaker 5: No, that's weak. No, we brought it with us. Thank you, though, 1931 01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,720 Speaker 5: Okay I think you bought it. Actually I bought it. 1932 01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,599 Speaker 1: Oh all right, so tell us what's happening. 1933 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,040 Speaker 5: So today's the first day we heard from Ellie Wolf 1934 01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:59,639 Speaker 5: Evan and I got to sit down with him, talk. 1935 01:25:59,479 --> 01:26:00,320 Speaker 4: To a bunch of quiquestions. 1936 01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,800 Speaker 5: Was great, you know, got a little background on him 1937 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,120 Speaker 5: just I mean they said this was his thirtieth combine, 1938 01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,640 Speaker 5: which was pretty cool. Uh, you know, just obviously we 1939 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 5: saw him at the call at the podium two. So 1940 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,160 Speaker 5: you guys probably heard all that stuff that he said, 1941 01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:13,160 Speaker 5: a lot of what we talked to him, and then 1942 01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 5: we also talked to him afterwards. So you got three 1943 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:17,479 Speaker 5: doses of Elliot Wolf today was you know, it was 1944 01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,640 Speaker 5: pretty cool, a lot of a lot of a lot 1945 01:26:18,640 --> 01:26:19,200 Speaker 5: of information. 1946 01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,280 Speaker 4: I think the scouting stuff was most interesting to us. 1947 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:26,720 Speaker 1: You mentioned Elliott is this is his thirtieth combine. How 1948 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:27,320 Speaker 1: old is he? 1949 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:28,439 Speaker 6: Forty one? 1950 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 9: He was ten at his first time, okay, and there 1951 01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,720 Speaker 9: was ten and there's one missing because of the COVID. 1952 01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:40,479 Speaker 1: Okay, so yep. So so he's been doing this for 1953 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:44,000 Speaker 1: a long time. We you know, I listened to his 1954 01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,280 Speaker 1: press conference. Who listened to your interview a little bit 1955 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,760 Speaker 1: although we were talking over it. It was good to 1956 01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 1: hear somebody, you know, taking the reins for this, and 1957 01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, he said, 1958 01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,200 Speaker 1: somebody's going to make the decision, and it's going to 1959 01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:06,800 Speaker 1: be me. What was your biggest takeaways from his press conference? Yeah. 1960 01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,400 Speaker 21: I thought that was probably the biggest takeaway just in 1961 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,120 Speaker 21: terms of newsworthy items, is that he's going to be 1962 01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,639 Speaker 21: the one turning in the card and making the final decision, 1963 01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:18,320 Speaker 21: which is certainly something that's very notable. I think to 1964 01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,720 Speaker 21: have him come out and say that and have the 1965 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:23,640 Speaker 21: ability to say that is just a change, you know, 1966 01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,679 Speaker 21: more transparency on that regard. And I would also say 1967 01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:29,200 Speaker 21: the change to the grading system was something that stood 1968 01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:32,559 Speaker 21: out to both of us as just an interesting thing. 1969 01:27:32,680 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 21: You know, that grading system had been in place for years, 1970 01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:38,840 Speaker 21: really going all the way back to Cleveland for Bill Belichick. 1971 01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,639 Speaker 21: So a completely different scouting grading scale and how they're 1972 01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 21: going to stack players on the board and things like 1973 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,559 Speaker 21: that is intriguing based off of how the draft has 1974 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,840 Speaker 21: gone for the last what five to ten years, It's 1975 01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:52,920 Speaker 21: a welcome change, I think. 1976 01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, I noted that too, Evan. 1977 01:27:56,080 --> 01:28:00,080 Speaker 9: I saw your tweet about it and I jumped on it. 1978 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,040 Speaker 9: And I don't know enough about the specifics of the 1979 01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:06,280 Speaker 9: process of how these stack boys, but I do think 1980 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,639 Speaker 9: if it leads them to just sort of identify talent 1981 01:28:11,200 --> 01:28:14,840 Speaker 9: as opposed to solely worrying about fit, I think it's 1982 01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:16,559 Speaker 9: a move in the right direction. 1983 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, Paul, I'd say one more. 1984 01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,320 Speaker 5: One other thing that we've actually heard from Elliott a 1985 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 5: few times now is he really seems to like this 1986 01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:26,280 Speaker 5: quarterback class. 1987 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:27,720 Speaker 4: I mean, he keeps kind of pumping it up. 1988 01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:29,679 Speaker 5: I heard you guys, you know, talking a little bit, 1989 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:31,840 Speaker 5: and I mean, if you're there at three and you 1990 01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 5: really like this quarterback class, why would you trade down? 1991 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:37,400 Speaker 5: You know, stay where you are. These guys are going 1992 01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:38,880 Speaker 5: to go. I mean he acknowledged, you know, most of 1993 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,840 Speaker 5: the quarterbacks in the league, as we've talked about ad 1994 01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,519 Speaker 5: nauseum on unfiltered our first round pick, so just at 1995 01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:46,519 Speaker 5: least acknowledging that that he thinks this is a good 1996 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:46,880 Speaker 5: class thing. 1997 01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:48,040 Speaker 4: He said tough. 1998 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:50,680 Speaker 21: Yeah, that was that was the standout trade to him 1999 01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:52,720 Speaker 21: about the quarterbacks. And I went back and read the 2000 01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:55,840 Speaker 21: quote directly and it was the top of the quarterback 2001 01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:58,920 Speaker 21: class displays a lot of toughness. So I think that 2002 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:02,559 Speaker 21: those guys there's certainly, as you would expect, doing a 2003 01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:05,679 Speaker 21: ton of homework on those three guys, Caleb Williams, Drake 2004 01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 21: May and Jaden Daniels. And I think he really thought 2005 01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:11,280 Speaker 21: that all three of those guys. Stand out trade was 2006 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:13,599 Speaker 21: just being able to stand in the pocket and deliver 2007 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 21: under pressure with guys in their face and take hits. 2008 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 21: And durability was another word that he used to describe it. 2009 01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,560 Speaker 21: Being able to, you know, stay on the field, I 2010 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,280 Speaker 21: think is a big thing. For him at that spot 2011 01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:28,200 Speaker 21: as well. So I thought that was very interesting that 2012 01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,799 Speaker 21: that was what he brought up and what he pointed 2013 01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:31,640 Speaker 21: to first. 2014 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:37,200 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy is shooting up Paul's mock draft, not Paul's. 2015 01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,000 Speaker 1: What's the scuttle butt? What's the scuttle button Indie about 2016 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,040 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, because the Michigan people are really pumping him up, 2017 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,720 Speaker 1: saying that he's going to draft higher than you think. 2018 01:29:48,400 --> 01:29:49,320 Speaker 4: Well, funny you should say that. 2019 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:51,599 Speaker 5: Evan and I just went to Jimmy John's and we 2020 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:54,800 Speaker 5: were walking back and that was exactly I brought up. J. J. McCarthy, who, 2021 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,400 Speaker 5: you know, as I heard Paul say earlier, you know, 2022 01:29:57,400 --> 01:29:59,000 Speaker 5: it just doesn't thrown a lot. And I think that 2023 01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 5: there's a, you know, be a little bit of element 2024 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,920 Speaker 5: of unknown with him that maybe at least allows you 2025 01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:05,640 Speaker 5: to believe that, hey, maybe he's an amazing thrower and 2026 01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:07,840 Speaker 5: we just don't know it. But I was talking to 2027 01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,120 Speaker 5: Evan and I kind of like, I keep kind of 2028 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,599 Speaker 5: like dipping back in on him, but I'm like, why 2029 01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:12,240 Speaker 5: are we even considering these guys? If this is a 2030 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,559 Speaker 5: great class and you're at three overall, take the guy 2031 01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:16,519 Speaker 5: at three, you know, like let's not even worry about 2032 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 5: figuring out Bonix or JJ McCarthy are okay enough to 2033 01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:21,760 Speaker 5: develop over the next three years and then maybe, like 2034 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:24,400 Speaker 5: we're at three overall, make the most of it. 2035 01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:27,840 Speaker 21: Yeah, I think if you're considering JJ McCarthy, you're talking 2036 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,280 Speaker 21: really about the thirty fourth pick in the draft. I 2037 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:33,160 Speaker 21: think he's a late first early second round guy right now. 2038 01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:35,679 Speaker 21: And the biggest thing is is what everybody keeps saying 2039 01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 21: about him is he just didn't throw all that much 2040 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,360 Speaker 21: at Michigan. So if you want to watch one hundred 2041 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,200 Speaker 21: throws of JJ McCarthy, you might need to watch like 2042 01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:45,479 Speaker 21: eight games to get to one hundred throws, where these 2043 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,479 Speaker 21: other guys you can watch like three games and you 2044 01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:49,559 Speaker 21: get to one hundred throws. So I think that that's 2045 01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 21: the biggest thing is these workouts are gonna be big 2046 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,679 Speaker 21: for him to combine the pro day to show off 2047 01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,920 Speaker 21: that arm, talent and some of that ability to throw 2048 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,720 Speaker 21: the ball in these live settings. Is that going to 2049 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,160 Speaker 21: change scout's minds and say, well, in our system and 2050 01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:05,200 Speaker 21: in our offense, and with a higher volume of throws, 2051 01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,880 Speaker 21: he's going to be a better statistical quarterback than what 2052 01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:11,120 Speaker 21: he was at Michigan. But right now, I look at 2053 01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:14,480 Speaker 21: JJ McCarthy as more of a thrower than a quarterback. 2054 01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:17,280 Speaker 21: Like he's got a good arm talent, he's got some mobility, 2055 01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:22,120 Speaker 21: but in terms of the actual quarterback details, mechanics, processing 2056 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,519 Speaker 21: things like that, he's got a ways to go in 2057 01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:27,200 Speaker 21: that category to be a guy that is going to 2058 01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:28,880 Speaker 21: be leading your franchise in my opinion. 2059 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,120 Speaker 9: Yeah, I was curious with you guys, and obviously we 2060 01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:34,280 Speaker 9: got to hear from Wolf and we heard your other 2061 01:31:34,320 --> 01:31:38,000 Speaker 9: interview with Elliott. Anything you guys pick up from listening 2062 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,360 Speaker 9: to any of the other NFL coaches gms that have 2063 01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,280 Speaker 9: hit the podium today, anything Patriots related, I guess. 2064 01:31:45,880 --> 01:31:50,599 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, just you know, one I caught was John 2065 01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:53,200 Speaker 5: Snyder from the Seahawks was up at his podium and 2066 01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:56,839 Speaker 5: Martinez actually asked him about Elliott because they were together 2067 01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,680 Speaker 5: in Green Bay, and it was kind of a good 2068 01:31:58,680 --> 01:32:00,639 Speaker 5: answer from John Schneider talking. But I think I used 2069 01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:03,360 Speaker 5: to babysit him, but you know, just a lot of 2070 01:32:03,479 --> 01:32:05,640 Speaker 5: nice things to say about him, as as everybody has. 2071 01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:07,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I thought one of the interesting things too. 2072 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,719 Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys could catch it. During 2073 01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:10,240 Speaker 5: his podium stand was you know, a lot of the 2074 01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:12,840 Speaker 5: Green Bay folks were you know, really really asking a 2075 01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 5: lot of questions just about you know, some of the 2076 01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:15,839 Speaker 5: hits that he's. 2077 01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,639 Speaker 4: You know, been part of, and you know he spread 2078 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:18,800 Speaker 4: the credit around a little bit of that. 2079 01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,559 Speaker 1: But yeah, that was that. 2080 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:22,400 Speaker 5: And then a little bit of met Mike McDaniel talking 2081 01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:23,759 Speaker 5: about firing Vic Fangio. 2082 01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,680 Speaker 4: That was another thing I just caught. Always got to 2083 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:26,600 Speaker 4: see Mike McDaniel. 2084 01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,000 Speaker 5: You know, it was interesting just he said, I didn't 2085 01:32:29,040 --> 01:32:30,320 Speaker 5: we didn't really even have a sense that was the 2086 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:32,960 Speaker 5: direction we would be going when the season ended. But 2087 01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,080 Speaker 5: after the season we ended, we tried to have a 2088 01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:37,519 Speaker 5: you know, a conversation without any emotion in it, and 2089 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,479 Speaker 5: you know, we kind of came to the conclusion for both. 2090 01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:40,800 Speaker 6: Of us that it was the right direction to go. 2091 01:32:40,920 --> 01:32:44,160 Speaker 5: So just caught a little bit of that, but but otherwise, no, 2092 01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:46,120 Speaker 5: we were just you know, kind of getting rolling here. 2093 01:32:46,360 --> 01:32:48,840 Speaker 5: Early on there, I saw Andy Reid. He got a 2094 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:51,080 Speaker 5: like a full convoy in a in a golf cart 2095 01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:54,320 Speaker 5: and they had to drive him in. So he's doing well. 2096 01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:55,880 Speaker 5: He says he's going to leave it to the media 2097 01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:57,799 Speaker 5: to decide if the Chiefs are a dynasty. 2098 01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:01,400 Speaker 1: Now, so Evan, you mentioned, you know, JJ McCarthy's a 2099 01:33:01,439 --> 01:33:05,120 Speaker 1: guy who has a lot to gain from actually working out, 2100 01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,880 Speaker 1: whether it's pro days or at the combine guys like that, 2101 01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:09,840 Speaker 1: What did you think of what do you think of 2102 01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,599 Speaker 1: the three quarterbacks of the top not throwing and also 2103 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,759 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison not doing anything. 2104 01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,320 Speaker 21: Yeah, so I actually asked Elliott about that specifically, and 2105 01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,400 Speaker 21: he basically said that, you know, they would prefer these 2106 01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:27,760 Speaker 21: guys to work out, but obviously they're doing what's in 2107 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:31,240 Speaker 21: their own personal best interest. And he didn't sound like 2108 01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,240 Speaker 21: that they were going to change their draft board significantly 2109 01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:36,559 Speaker 21: based off of the fact that they didn't work out. 2110 01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,559 Speaker 21: We'll get to see those guys at their pro days. 2111 01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,040 Speaker 21: The quarterbacks will throw at their pro days. But I 2112 01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:45,439 Speaker 21: think that these guys, you have to determine whether or 2113 01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,000 Speaker 21: not it's really gonna help your stock. There has to 2114 01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,200 Speaker 21: be some sort of benefit to going out there and throwing. 2115 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 21: And for a guy like Caleb Williams or Jayden Daniels, 2116 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:56,280 Speaker 21: they're going to go in the top three, what benefit 2117 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,120 Speaker 21: do they really have to throwing in these sessions? Whereas 2118 01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:03,080 Speaker 21: a guy like Ja McCarthy, Bo Nicks, Michael Pennix. Those 2119 01:34:03,080 --> 01:34:05,400 Speaker 21: guys could help their stocks by throwing in these events. 2120 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:07,000 Speaker 21: I don't know how you help your stock from one 2121 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,120 Speaker 21: to one, like you can't really, there's no place to 2122 01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,960 Speaker 21: go from there. So I understand why guys are opting 2123 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:14,880 Speaker 21: out in With Marvin Harrison, it's not that unheard of 2124 01:34:14,920 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 21: to not test. You know, DeVante Smith, he didn't run 2125 01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,360 Speaker 21: the forty yard dash his draft year. That's the one 2126 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,360 Speaker 21: that comes to mind. You know, some of those guys 2127 01:34:21,400 --> 01:34:23,479 Speaker 21: just say, hey, I'm gonna trust the tape. You know, 2128 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,200 Speaker 21: look at the tape. Do you want to see how 2129 01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,320 Speaker 21: fast I play? I'm a difference maker, and they trust 2130 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,599 Speaker 21: the tape on it. So it didn't sound like it 2131 01:34:30,640 --> 01:34:33,240 Speaker 21: was gonna change the Patriots opinions one way or another. 2132 01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,920 Speaker 21: But he did say Wolf did say that they would 2133 01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:37,960 Speaker 21: like them to do these types of things, but obviously 2134 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,000 Speaker 21: it's not in their control. 2135 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,679 Speaker 1: But you know, in the case of Harrison, though he's 2136 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:44,559 Speaker 1: not doing anything, he's not gonna do pro days, he's 2137 01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:47,559 Speaker 1: just training for football. He says, do you think that 2138 01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,880 Speaker 1: that could become you know more and more players who 2139 01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,160 Speaker 1: are established doing that. 2140 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:58,960 Speaker 21: Yes, and no, I think it's really with Marvin Harrison junior. 2141 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,400 Speaker 21: He's a union case in my opinion, because he's such 2142 01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:05,360 Speaker 21: a generational prospect to a lot of people that he 2143 01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,680 Speaker 21: has the ability to do that. I don't think a 2144 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,920 Speaker 21: lot of other guys are gonna have the ability to 2145 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,360 Speaker 21: just say, I'm not doing any of this stuff and 2146 01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:14,920 Speaker 21: I'll see you in September. I think he's got that 2147 01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:17,880 Speaker 21: rare case of I'm this good and I am able 2148 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,920 Speaker 21: to pull that off. But it's not just him. You know, 2149 01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:22,599 Speaker 21: Malik Neighbors is not running the forty yard dash here either. 2150 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,759 Speaker 21: Who's most people's number two wide receiver on the board, 2151 01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,800 Speaker 21: and his big trade is speed. That's that's his top 2152 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,000 Speaker 21: trade is his explosiveness and his big playability. So I'm 2153 01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,000 Speaker 21: a little bit surprised more by Neighbors not participating or 2154 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,639 Speaker 21: running the forty yard dash than I am with Harrison, 2155 01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:40,320 Speaker 21: because Neighbors should run a four to three, you know, 2156 01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,479 Speaker 21: something like that. So I'm a little bit surprised that 2157 01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:44,840 Speaker 21: he decided not to run. 2158 01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:47,640 Speaker 9: I have one more question for you guys, and I 2159 01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:50,040 Speaker 9: don't know if you know the answer is Gerrod mao there. 2160 01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:55,880 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, So we're gonna see him tonight and then 2161 01:35:55,880 --> 01:35:57,680 Speaker 5: we'll also we're gonna see him tomorrow. I think he's 2162 01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:00,280 Speaker 5: gonna do a little media scrump that we're gonna get to. 2163 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:03,440 Speaker 5: We're going to interview him tonight as well. So yeah, 2164 01:36:03,600 --> 01:36:04,320 Speaker 5: yeah he's here. 2165 01:36:04,360 --> 01:36:08,120 Speaker 9: Sorry, No, I was hoping, but for totally selfish reasons. 2166 01:36:08,160 --> 01:36:11,320 Speaker 9: I was hoping he wasn't there. But no, biggie, just 2167 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,439 Speaker 9: so that somebody'd be wrong, bad report. 2168 01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:15,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, all right. 2169 01:36:15,640 --> 01:36:17,479 Speaker 4: Guys, Can I ask a question? 2170 01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:17,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 2171 01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,599 Speaker 5: Sure, I just want to see how you guys had, 2172 01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,479 Speaker 5: how your vacation was here. We didn't, we didn't get 2173 01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:25,160 Speaker 5: to see you. We're like two ships passing in the night. 2174 01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:27,400 Speaker 5: Last week we had Deuce in the Kids Show, and 2175 01:36:27,439 --> 01:36:28,160 Speaker 5: now you guys are better. 2176 01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:28,840 Speaker 8: I should see how. 2177 01:36:29,520 --> 01:36:30,639 Speaker 1: I hope you're all well rested. 2178 01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,040 Speaker 9: And I'm not really sure why you think that it's 2179 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,800 Speaker 9: the kids show, Like he's like five years younger than 2180 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:36,519 Speaker 9: me and. 2181 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:38,800 Speaker 4: The kids deducing the kids, I said, deucing the kids 2182 01:36:39,960 --> 01:36:40,639 Speaker 4: this guy. 2183 01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I I had a Thanks for asking. I 2184 01:36:43,080 --> 01:36:46,120 Speaker 1: had a great uncle, Ducey. You missed all the talk 2185 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:48,880 Speaker 1: earlier on the show about the pornography and everything. 2186 01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:52,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, Fred had his share of porn in the hotel. 2187 01:36:52,479 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 8: He couldn't escape it. 2188 01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:56,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I had an awesome time, awesome time. 2189 01:36:56,479 --> 01:36:56,800 Speaker 6: Yeah it was. 2190 01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:58,720 Speaker 9: It was a good, good trip until I got a 2191 01:36:58,760 --> 01:36:59,800 Speaker 9: speeding ticket on the way home. 2192 01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,840 Speaker 8: If you guys know any lawyers and let us know what. 2193 01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:07,720 Speaker 6: Did you see? Did you see that? Did you show 2194 01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:10,120 Speaker 6: you the picture I sent? I sent a picture with 2195 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:11,240 Speaker 6: Drake May. Yeah. 2196 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:11,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I. 2197 01:37:13,439 --> 01:37:15,599 Speaker 6: Was on it talk to their coaches and no I saw. 2198 01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:17,040 Speaker 6: I just talked to Drake and. 2199 01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:19,559 Speaker 21: Ask him about his personality and his leadership, and. 2200 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:22,519 Speaker 9: Yeah, I I pulled about fifteen or twenty guys on 2201 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,040 Speaker 9: the campus and I didn't get anybody like Eldre just 2202 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,000 Speaker 9: said everybody in North Carolina hate Drake May. 2203 01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:28,120 Speaker 6: I didn't get any of that. 2204 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, but no, I did get a chance to go 2205 01:37:30,720 --> 01:37:33,639 Speaker 9: to the football stadium and so they have a big, 2206 01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:39,479 Speaker 9: big sort of plaque out front with his name on 2207 01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,040 Speaker 9: it in a quote about how great when you were telling. 2208 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,240 Speaker 1: You didn't you play Coastal Carolina in baseball? 2209 01:37:44,280 --> 01:37:44,640 Speaker 6: We did not? 2210 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:50,680 Speaker 21: Oh no, No, I've actually heard a lot about the 2211 01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:51,840 Speaker 21: opposite with Drake May. 2212 01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:55,639 Speaker 9: Good guy, really good guy. Yeah, that's that's that's the word. 2213 01:37:56,160 --> 01:38:00,240 Speaker 21: Yeah, I've heard a lot of strong leadership, good guy. Yeah, 2214 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,240 Speaker 21: there's a lot of buzz about his personality, that he's 2215 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,400 Speaker 21: hard worker, you know, all those cliches. 2216 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,160 Speaker 9: Now I'm curious, like Elliott Wolf calling the top of 2217 01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,200 Speaker 9: the quarterback class very tough, sort of runs countered the 2218 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:14,000 Speaker 9: way the media portrays Caleb Williams. 2219 01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:16,120 Speaker 1: No, that's true. 2220 01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:17,280 Speaker 6: I don't know if you know, but he cried. 2221 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:17,960 Speaker 1: It's true. 2222 01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,120 Speaker 4: Tough guys can cry. Tough guys can cry about painting 2223 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:21,599 Speaker 4: their nails. 2224 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:26,120 Speaker 9: Real men cry, I agree, Duce, real men cry. 2225 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,080 Speaker 1: All right, So what's up on your schedule for the 2226 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,360 Speaker 1: rest of the day and what can we look for tomorrow? 2227 01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:37,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, well we'll get some time with Gira tonight 2228 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 5: and then yeah, we're jumping into it tomorrow. Unfortunately for Evan, 2229 01:38:40,280 --> 01:38:42,519 Speaker 5: it's the defensive side of the ball, so will be 2230 01:38:42,600 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 5: the defensive line, the edges, and I think the linebackers tomorrow, 2231 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,439 Speaker 5: I believe. So we're kind of ramping up now. We're 2232 01:38:48,439 --> 01:38:50,759 Speaker 5: getting up to the quarterbacks, the wide receivers, the running 2233 01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:52,559 Speaker 5: backs will be f good part of the good part, 2234 01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:55,280 Speaker 5: as Evan said, But then the tackles on Saturday, for 2235 01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:59,080 Speaker 5: those who who care to the amazing tackle class, which 2236 01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:00,920 Speaker 5: was another thing I brought up to Ellie Wolf. Yeah, 2237 01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,280 Speaker 5: that the bad party boy. Yeah, the big boys, the 2238 01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,799 Speaker 5: big blockers. Yeah, really important. Now we're doing it hopefully, 2239 01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:08,680 Speaker 5: just you know, maintaining our steak and take. That's a 2240 01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,720 Speaker 5: big thing this week, you know, monitoring your shrimp and 2241 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:12,960 Speaker 5: steak and take. Have h we'll do it too much, 2242 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:16,599 Speaker 5: so make sure we did. We did last night and 2243 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,680 Speaker 5: for the team. Dinner was wonderful and credit credit to. 2244 01:39:19,600 --> 01:39:23,000 Speaker 4: Tony Flann What was it the old ninety six? 2245 01:39:23,240 --> 01:39:26,000 Speaker 5: It was the ninety six ounces of all American beef 2246 01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:29,080 Speaker 5: and if you finish it, you get a T shirt. 2247 01:39:29,240 --> 01:39:31,599 Speaker 5: Unfortunately he didn't finish it, but he's still been carrying 2248 01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:33,960 Speaker 5: around the piece of steak in his pocket today. That's 2249 01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:35,360 Speaker 5: left over and I'll just take it out and take 2250 01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,320 Speaker 5: a narl of it while where we're working. So it's 2251 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,080 Speaker 5: word to It's worked out great for Tony here. 2252 01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:42,200 Speaker 1: All the dogs in India are following him around everywhere 2253 01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:46,280 Speaker 1: you go. It's like the mutton I felt. But did 2254 01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,880 Speaker 1: I hear you earlier? Evan? Evan, you went to a 2255 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:49,799 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johns. 2256 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,000 Speaker 6: That was me and Deuce went to Jimmy John's. 2257 01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:56,160 Speaker 1: That no Jersey Mike's and. 2258 01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,880 Speaker 6: Oh that's that's right, that's right outside the stand. Yeah right, 2259 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,559 Speaker 6: I've frequented that, Jimmy. 2260 01:40:02,680 --> 01:40:07,040 Speaker 1: All right, all right, guys, good job. We'll have a 2261 01:40:07,080 --> 01:40:09,280 Speaker 1: good time in Indy. We'll maybe talk to you Thursday. 2262 01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:10,519 Speaker 1: Stay out of trouble. 2263 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:13,080 Speaker 4: That sounds great, all. 2264 01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:18,639 Speaker 8: Right, try we'll try to stay out of trouble. 2265 01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:24,120 Speaker 1: The old school backdrop in Indy. Good stuff, all right. 2266 01:40:24,240 --> 01:40:26,360 Speaker 6: Now, I just had something inappropriate to say what happened, 2267 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:27,640 Speaker 6: but I let I actually. 2268 01:40:27,400 --> 01:40:28,920 Speaker 8: Kept it very big of you. 2269 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,960 Speaker 3: All I could think about was last year's combine calls, 2270 01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:35,040 Speaker 3: when Mike spilled the team out, one of our video. 2271 01:40:34,760 --> 01:40:38,880 Speaker 8: Team members almost missing the flight home. Good times? 2272 01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:40,759 Speaker 6: Was that the combine? 2273 01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:42,360 Speaker 8: I thought it was What else would it be that 2274 01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:43,240 Speaker 8: they were all out there for? 2275 01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 1: It could have been. 2276 01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:46,160 Speaker 6: I thought it was the Vegas thing. 2277 01:40:46,240 --> 01:40:47,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, it might have been. 2278 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:50,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, Vegas is more used to say. 2279 01:40:50,680 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the joint practices. 2280 01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,040 Speaker 7: All right, let's get a socks, warn him to set 2281 01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:55,719 Speaker 7: many alarms. 2282 01:40:56,000 --> 01:40:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2283 01:40:56,880 --> 01:41:01,240 Speaker 9: So Mayo is there, and we will have of something 2284 01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,880 Speaker 9: with Mayo because Mike and Evan are gonna chat with 2285 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,040 Speaker 9: him the way they did with with Wolves. So that's 2286 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:06,920 Speaker 9: something to look forward to. 2287 01:41:07,040 --> 01:41:11,040 Speaker 1: Yep. So they'll do that tonight and then tomorrow he said, 2288 01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,519 Speaker 1: there'll be some kind of scrum with Mayo with the 2289 01:41:13,560 --> 01:41:14,240 Speaker 1: rest of the media. 2290 01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:15,360 Speaker 6: Yeah, we don't care about that. 2291 01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:19,640 Speaker 1: No, no, all right, phones is still stacked. Not surprising, 2292 01:41:19,720 --> 01:41:23,719 Speaker 1: but thank you for that. John's in South Beach. What's up? John? 2293 01:41:26,520 --> 01:41:30,280 Speaker 1: John and South Beach? Oh man, these people they hold 2294 01:41:30,320 --> 01:41:33,000 Speaker 1: on for half an hour and it's their time to 2295 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:33,960 Speaker 1: go and they're not there. 2296 01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:34,960 Speaker 6: Johnny, South Beach. 2297 01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:36,680 Speaker 4: Johnny said he was gonna hold, but he had a 2298 01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:37,479 Speaker 4: work call he had to take. 2299 01:41:37,640 --> 01:41:41,960 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Scotty in New York, what's up, Scotty? 2300 01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:44,519 Speaker 1: Beat me up, Scotty. 2301 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,759 Speaker 9: Yeah, let's let's just keep blaming it all all the callers. 2302 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:54,400 Speaker 1: N I don't know. I press the right button. He's 2303 01:41:54,439 --> 01:41:57,920 Speaker 1: not there. Right, So we're gonna go to California with Ethan. 2304 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:03,960 Speaker 1: What's up Ethan? Yeah? Hey, Ethan, how's it going? 2305 01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:04,200 Speaker 3: Man? 2306 01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:04,800 Speaker 1: All right? 2307 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:07,559 Speaker 12: One time Patriots fan, you know, on the other side 2308 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,759 Speaker 12: of the country. But so my question about the draft 2309 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,000 Speaker 12: is if we do stay at the quarterback, you know, 2310 01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:16,440 Speaker 12: we have Daniels and may who are two very different quarterbacks. 2311 01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,960 Speaker 12: You know, there's one who's very mobile, little lighter, He's 2312 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:21,840 Speaker 12: really good in the pocket as a huge arm. But 2313 01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,479 Speaker 12: then you have another who I kind of compare to 2314 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,360 Speaker 12: Josh Allen, like six ' four two forty five, he 2315 01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,960 Speaker 12: strives in the pocket. What do you think would be 2316 01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:36,000 Speaker 12: a better quarterback for are rebuilding franchise even if they 2317 01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:39,519 Speaker 12: sat behind you know, our veterans for a year, which 2318 01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:41,720 Speaker 12: you know is happening a lot with I mean, that's 2319 01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,559 Speaker 12: how the Packers really build their quarterbacks. Who do you 2320 01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:47,720 Speaker 12: think would be a better quarterback or better fit for 2321 01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:49,360 Speaker 12: our franchise we're trying to rebuild. 2322 01:42:50,520 --> 01:42:54,320 Speaker 9: I think that May's skill set translates to the Northeast, 2323 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:58,280 Speaker 9: and I think I think they're both extremely mobile. Now, 2324 01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:01,960 Speaker 9: May is not the dynam runner that Daniels is. Daniels 2325 01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:05,799 Speaker 9: blows everybody away in terms of running with the football. 2326 01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:07,839 Speaker 6: He is top of the class. 2327 01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,599 Speaker 9: But May is a very mobile quarterback. And I agree 2328 01:43:12,040 --> 01:43:14,680 Speaker 9: with the Josh Allen comp and because of that, I 2329 01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,080 Speaker 9: think it translates to New England. He's a bigger guy, 2330 01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 9: can drive the ball through the wind. I do not 2331 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:22,080 Speaker 9: think Daniels has that kind of arm, but he is. 2332 01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:25,640 Speaker 9: You know, I'm coming around on Daniels that you know, 2333 01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,720 Speaker 9: my chastising from a you know, a month ago. I'm 2334 01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,600 Speaker 9: watching a little bit more and seeing more indications of 2335 01:43:31,720 --> 01:43:35,120 Speaker 9: him being able to do it more traditionally, not just 2336 01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,280 Speaker 9: I just think that his propensity is to run, and 2337 01:43:38,360 --> 01:43:40,120 Speaker 9: I don't think he can do that. I think he's 2338 01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:42,080 Speaker 9: going to have to get better as a passer. I 2339 01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,360 Speaker 9: like them both. I take them both, but I think 2340 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,040 Speaker 9: may his skill set, in my opinion, better transfer. Let's 2341 01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:49,960 Speaker 9: say the team to the weather, which I think is 2342 01:43:49,960 --> 01:43:50,719 Speaker 9: a huge factor. 2343 01:43:50,760 --> 01:43:53,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say the team really likes Daniels, they take them. 2344 01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,320 Speaker 1: They can have a he can have a future in 2345 01:43:55,360 --> 01:44:00,320 Speaker 1: the NFL, but maybe he needs a year. Who do 2346 01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,960 Speaker 1: you bring in to be that quarterback for this year? 2347 01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:06,280 Speaker 6: I think there are options. 2348 01:44:06,560 --> 01:44:09,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is it Jacoby Brissette. I mean. 2349 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:13,160 Speaker 6: Gardner, not Jimmy g I wouldn't. 2350 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:15,479 Speaker 1: I would absolutely was going to miss two games, right. 2351 01:44:15,800 --> 01:44:18,679 Speaker 9: I absolutely wouldn't bring him in, like, unequivocally, I would 2352 01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:19,240 Speaker 9: not bring him. 2353 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,960 Speaker 8: I think someone someone did him dirty. I feel like 2354 01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:25,040 Speaker 8: so they didn't have to pay him or something. 2355 01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:29,160 Speaker 1: It sounds that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it does. 2356 01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:32,080 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean Gardner, Minshew, it would be a guy. 2357 01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:34,839 Speaker 9: There's some backups that are probably gonna be free agents 2358 01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,200 Speaker 9: at Cooper Rush, you know, someone like that. But I 2359 01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,000 Speaker 9: think those guys aren't going to be interested in signing 2360 01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:42,680 Speaker 9: here because they want to sign somewhere where they think 2361 01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,439 Speaker 9: they have a chance to be the starter, right, not 2362 01:44:45,640 --> 01:44:47,439 Speaker 9: a guy that's going to start for ten weeks and 2363 01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:50,120 Speaker 9: just a place, you know, or maybe a year. You know, 2364 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,760 Speaker 9: But you could get a guy in a one year deal. 2365 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:55,519 Speaker 9: I suppose like Tyler Huntley. You know, if you were 2366 01:44:55,560 --> 01:44:58,360 Speaker 9: going to draft Jayden Daniels, would it make sense to 2367 01:44:58,439 --> 01:45:01,639 Speaker 9: draft to sign Tyler hun for a year have him play. 2368 01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,120 Speaker 1: But here, here's when I where I'm kind of going 2369 01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:06,200 Speaker 1: with this, And maybe they don't need to do that, 2370 01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:09,240 Speaker 1: But if you if you draft Daniels, you want to 2371 01:45:09,280 --> 01:45:12,320 Speaker 1: start building the offense around him, and even if he's 2372 01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:15,080 Speaker 1: not the quarterback this year, you want to start building 2373 01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:17,559 Speaker 1: that offense. Sure, so you want to get a quarterback 2374 01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:19,439 Speaker 1: that at least can run. 2375 01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:22,400 Speaker 9: It, Which is why I said, would you sign Tyler Huntley? Yeah, 2376 01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,320 Speaker 9: and have him keep the seat warm for your you know, 2377 01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:29,000 Speaker 9: more dual threat guy. 2378 01:45:29,080 --> 01:45:31,479 Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to have a one type 2379 01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:34,920 Speaker 1: of offense this year and then have to redo it 2380 01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:36,680 Speaker 1: next year for Daniels. 2381 01:45:36,920 --> 01:45:39,240 Speaker 9: You know, no, that's why I'm looking for a guy 2382 01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:40,639 Speaker 9: at similar skill set as Daniels. 2383 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:46,360 Speaker 1: And ah, let's see. Okay, thanks Ethan, Let's go to 2384 01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:55,559 Speaker 1: Danielle in Colorado. What's up, Danielle. Okay, So my and I. 2385 01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,960 Speaker 24: Have I have a bit of input. This is coming 2386 01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:00,800 Speaker 24: from so I have I have I'll pay relationship with 2387 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,920 Speaker 24: the Patriots. I will say that because my grandma, I 2388 01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:06,800 Speaker 24: have family from Boston, my grandpa and the US was 2389 01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:09,400 Speaker 24: a Patriots fan. My dad is definitely a Patriots fan. 2390 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:12,840 Speaker 24: And you know, growing up as a cold fan and 2391 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:16,200 Speaker 24: being from Indianapolis, just seeing the way the Patriots to play. 2392 01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:18,040 Speaker 24: They need to build around. They need to get a 2393 01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:20,519 Speaker 24: quarterback and build around their quarterback and get some tight. 2394 01:46:20,439 --> 01:46:20,800 Speaker 12: Into the. 2395 01:46:22,840 --> 01:46:25,880 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, they need a lot of some of the quarterbacks. 2396 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:27,519 Speaker 24: One of the quarterbacks that could bring in would be 2397 01:46:27,600 --> 01:46:29,720 Speaker 24: Jacoby said, because he can run the ball. 2398 01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:32,160 Speaker 6: Okay, well. 2399 01:46:33,439 --> 01:46:36,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean whoever they bring in is not part 2400 01:46:36,280 --> 01:46:40,400 Speaker 9: of the equation. If you bring somebody into play, that's 2401 01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,720 Speaker 9: because you don't want your rookie third overall pick to 2402 01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:47,120 Speaker 9: start right away. Yep, right right, that's why you're bringing 2403 01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:52,080 Speaker 9: somebody in so whatever they do is kind of irrelevant. 2404 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,000 Speaker 1: Okay, thanks Danielle. 2405 01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:58,479 Speaker 6: Danielle in Colorado, Jacoby said, is not mobile at all. 2406 01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 1: I should have read this email while Deuce was on. 2407 01:47:02,320 --> 01:47:05,400 Speaker 1: Oh this is from George, he says, Fred and Paul 2408 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,320 Speaker 1: please never both be missing from the show again. Was 2409 01:47:08,360 --> 01:47:11,320 Speaker 1: that bad Deuce in the Kids? More like Deuce in 2410 01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:16,439 Speaker 1: the Turns? Oh, that's terrible. Here it was essentially four 2411 01:47:16,479 --> 01:47:19,000 Speaker 1: hours of the halftime show, and it was, without a doubt, 2412 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,040 Speaker 1: the worst week in Patriots unfiltered history. I do have 2413 01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:25,120 Speaker 1: a question about the draft. Do you guys have any 2414 01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:27,679 Speaker 1: worry that the new regime is so worried about being 2415 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:30,320 Speaker 1: the opposite of Bill that they would force a pick 2416 01:47:30,320 --> 01:47:33,160 Speaker 1: at three if doing the Bill move and trading down 2417 01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:34,400 Speaker 1: would be a smarter option. 2418 01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:38,519 Speaker 9: No, I have worries about so being so determined to 2419 01:47:38,520 --> 01:47:41,439 Speaker 9: be different from Bill, Yes, but not to the extent 2420 01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,000 Speaker 9: will the knowingly do the wrong thing? 2421 01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:44,519 Speaker 6: Right? 2422 01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:44,840 Speaker 2: Yeah? 2423 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:46,960 Speaker 9: So you're telling me they know that trading down is 2424 01:47:46,960 --> 01:47:49,360 Speaker 9: the best course of action, but we're not going to 2425 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:51,000 Speaker 9: do that because that's what Bill would do. I don't 2426 01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:53,400 Speaker 9: it's a smart guy, He's not going to do that. 2427 01:47:54,320 --> 01:48:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see Sam and Maryland. Just thought i'd write 2428 01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:03,160 Speaker 1: in my review of Patriots shipping of my PU winnings. 2429 01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,040 Speaker 1: I was supposed to receive the Chargers game poster in 2430 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:09,000 Speaker 1: large PU shirt in the fall. Last week I received 2431 01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:12,000 Speaker 1: a medium PU shirt, so Mariene was sort of getting 2432 01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,519 Speaker 1: it right. Love the shirt even though I can't wear it. 2433 01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,759 Speaker 1: I did get a return to send her package upstairs 2434 01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:19,479 Speaker 1: or shirt I gotta. I forgot to bring it down 2435 01:48:19,520 --> 01:48:20,880 Speaker 1: though I don't know who it was. 2436 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:24,160 Speaker 7: Everybody that was complaining that they hadn't gotten their stuff. 2437 01:48:24,160 --> 01:48:25,280 Speaker 4: I just resent shirts too. 2438 01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:27,040 Speaker 6: He brought them by me. 2439 01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:28,000 Speaker 1: That's proof. 2440 01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:29,120 Speaker 6: He goes here. Here you go. 2441 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,559 Speaker 7: He was all mad, seventeen of them in my hands. 2442 01:48:32,640 --> 01:48:36,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a return to send her package. You 2443 01:48:36,360 --> 01:48:41,160 Speaker 1: send him usps. Yeah, why didn't you do it flat 2444 01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:42,520 Speaker 1: rate FedEx? 2445 01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:44,280 Speaker 4: So this is the easiest way. 2446 01:48:44,960 --> 01:48:46,960 Speaker 1: It might be easiest, but it doesn't get there. 2447 01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:49,120 Speaker 6: Well, you do it whatever way the organization does it. 2448 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:50,439 Speaker 1: Now we have FedEx upstairs. 2449 01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:52,360 Speaker 3: I'll do it for FedEx from now. 2450 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:53,760 Speaker 1: And this is the way Nicole had told me to 2451 01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:59,400 Speaker 1: do before. She's not here anymore. Alex writes in he's 2452 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:01,880 Speaker 1: in North Carol. I like to say I like Paul's 2453 01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:04,240 Speaker 1: new spot feels like he has a new swagger sitting 2454 01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:07,400 Speaker 1: in a new spot. Plus, now we can have heated 2455 01:49:07,400 --> 01:49:08,280 Speaker 1: debates head on. 2456 01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:10,560 Speaker 6: Yes, confidence is my issue. 2457 01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:13,120 Speaker 1: Excited to see what the Wolf and Mayo are building 2458 01:49:13,320 --> 01:49:16,200 Speaker 1: in this new next generation of the Patriots. I'm going 2459 01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:18,720 Speaker 1: to miss what was the Patriots I grew up with, 2460 01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:21,880 Speaker 1: and like Paul says, they keep taking rocket shots at 2461 01:49:21,920 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 1: the previous regime. So we can assume that should be 2462 01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,800 Speaker 1: no more. From a defensive standpoint, how much do you 2463 01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:30,439 Speaker 1: think Bill not being part of the team affects how 2464 01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,880 Speaker 1: well the defense is prepared? I think it has. 2465 01:49:33,160 --> 01:49:36,559 Speaker 9: That's interesting, Yeah, that is that's a you know, you 2466 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:38,759 Speaker 9: know how I like to say last year the defense 2467 01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:42,320 Speaker 9: was well down the list of anything that was wrong. Yeah, 2468 01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:47,040 Speaker 9: that's probably a very secondary, minor concern, but it's a concern. 2469 01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,560 Speaker 1: Well, there's a lot of pressure on DeMarcus Covington. 2470 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:52,800 Speaker 9: Right, and how much you know, how much of that 2471 01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:56,320 Speaker 9: defense's success was because Bill Jess knows how to shut 2472 01:49:56,360 --> 01:49:57,879 Speaker 9: down another team. 2473 01:49:57,840 --> 01:50:01,439 Speaker 1: And at the first sign of a crack, Oh, Bill's 2474 01:50:01,479 --> 01:50:04,519 Speaker 1: not here anymore, and it's you know, DeMarcus Covington's gonna 2475 01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,160 Speaker 1: get a lot of blame, but fair or fair, you know, 2476 01:50:08,240 --> 01:50:09,120 Speaker 1: whether it's fair or not. 2477 01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 9: So you know maybe in that regard, you know, well, 2478 01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,960 Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's going to be interesting, I think 2479 01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:17,960 Speaker 9: if there's because you know that I am not like 2480 01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:19,599 Speaker 9: one hundred percent believer in the defense. 2481 01:50:19,600 --> 01:50:20,200 Speaker 6: I think they're fine. 2482 01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:21,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you didn't think that. 2483 01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:21,920 Speaker 6: I think they're fine. 2484 01:50:22,160 --> 01:50:23,720 Speaker 9: I don't think there's anything wrong with I think there 2485 01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:26,400 Speaker 9: are a very good defense in the current NFL. 2486 01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, they're not a problem. 2487 01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,439 Speaker 9: But it will be interesting if they are not as 2488 01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:34,559 Speaker 9: good as they were right, which may be you know, 2489 01:50:35,000 --> 01:50:38,160 Speaker 9: painfully obvious, but it may just be well, you played 2490 01:50:38,160 --> 01:50:41,200 Speaker 9: more good teams with good offenses, right, which I really think, 2491 01:50:41,320 --> 01:50:43,840 Speaker 9: you know, like last year, if you played the Jets 2492 01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,439 Speaker 9: with Rogers twice, maybe they scored more points than they 2493 01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:47,280 Speaker 9: did against you. 2494 01:50:47,280 --> 01:50:49,160 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. Well, that's where, you know, 2495 01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:51,479 Speaker 1: and we've said it over the last few years with 2496 01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:54,200 Speaker 1: you know, where the Patriots aren't as good as they 2497 01:50:54,280 --> 01:50:57,200 Speaker 1: used to be. It's really important for us to be 2498 01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:01,559 Speaker 1: as objective as we can be in our analysis, you know, 2499 01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,640 Speaker 1: more so than when they're winning every game and you 2500 01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:06,920 Speaker 1: don't really need to be because. 2501 01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:08,599 Speaker 9: Right, and then when you try to be objective then, 2502 01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,160 Speaker 9: and believe me, you know, that's what Andy and I 2503 01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,640 Speaker 9: used to try to do, is like be balanced and 2504 01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,760 Speaker 9: look at both sides. You sound like you're you're just 2505 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:18,559 Speaker 9: bitching for the sake of bitching, or trying to be 2506 01:51:18,560 --> 01:51:21,200 Speaker 9: a contrarian r like, oh, they're twelve and four, they're 2507 01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:23,599 Speaker 9: in the AFC Championship game, and this jerk is trying 2508 01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:25,880 Speaker 9: to talk about how they're not that good. It's not 2509 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,599 Speaker 9: really what we were doing, but it can be perceived 2510 01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,040 Speaker 9: that way. It can definitely be sure. I tell you 2511 01:51:31,080 --> 01:51:32,720 Speaker 9: the story all the time about Billy Oh making fun 2512 01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:34,839 Speaker 9: of us for that. Yeah, you know at the combine 2513 01:51:34,880 --> 01:51:37,040 Speaker 9: when he was with Houston, he goes YouTube and he 2514 01:51:37,040 --> 01:51:39,879 Speaker 9: didn't say, guys, YouTube a holes. 2515 01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:43,639 Speaker 1: Really he gave it to you, huh. 2516 01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:43,840 Speaker 2: No. 2517 01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:47,720 Speaker 9: It was very lighthearted, tongue in cheek, but when there 2518 01:51:47,720 --> 01:51:50,400 Speaker 9: was a message there, like I hear these reports from 2519 01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:51,280 Speaker 9: you guys, I. 2520 01:51:51,200 --> 01:51:52,400 Speaker 6: Don't know how you do it. I don't know how 2521 01:51:52,479 --> 01:51:53,880 Speaker 6: you find negative stuff. 2522 01:51:54,640 --> 01:51:58,000 Speaker 1: Someone in the Bay Area. I normally listen in excuse me, 2523 01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:02,120 Speaker 1: wo okay Banana and the tail p No. I normally 2524 01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,000 Speaker 1: listen in on the live audio, But today I decided 2525 01:52:05,040 --> 01:52:08,120 Speaker 1: to watch the video. While I'm watching. A couple of times, 2526 01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:11,759 Speaker 1: the audio only feed will start playing while simultaneously playing 2527 01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:14,320 Speaker 1: the video. I don't know if it's an app issue 2528 01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:17,080 Speaker 1: or just a meat problem. Not as bad of an 2529 01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:20,040 Speaker 1: issue as walking into a Mexican hotel with porn under 2530 01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:23,800 Speaker 1: the channel, well the first three, first three channels. But 2531 01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:24,639 Speaker 1: it's the first. 2532 01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:25,800 Speaker 6: Three channels, you know how. 2533 01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,240 Speaker 1: It's like so every time you put on the TV. So, 2534 01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:31,639 Speaker 1: you know how, like hotels they'll have the TV on 2535 01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:34,280 Speaker 1: their their station, which is like one and two of 2536 01:52:34,400 --> 01:52:37,120 Speaker 1: the hotel station. So you go in, it's nice music 2537 01:52:37,240 --> 01:52:41,439 Speaker 1: and the showing pictures on the ground, jump starre. So 2538 01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:44,840 Speaker 1: you go up one in the channels like whoa you know, 2539 01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:47,280 Speaker 1: oh is that? What is that? 2540 01:52:47,479 --> 01:52:49,559 Speaker 3: You would think you'd have to like hit some type 2541 01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:53,479 Speaker 3: of channel, some button that's like it's high I'm over eighteen. 2542 01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,639 Speaker 1: Disclaimer your date of birth. 2543 01:52:57,800 --> 01:52:59,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, put your credit card in because you probably have 2544 01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:01,439 Speaker 8: to pay for those channels or something. 2545 01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:02,800 Speaker 1: What you do, I don't know. 2546 01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:04,280 Speaker 8: I certainly do not. 2547 01:53:04,280 --> 01:53:05,200 Speaker 6: Know how that works. 2548 01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:07,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, you do have to put credit cards in. 2549 01:53:08,600 --> 01:53:11,719 Speaker 1: Not in this place anyway. I love the Mike Mamula 2550 01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:15,360 Speaker 1: name drop growing growing up in South Jersey Eagles Country, 2551 01:53:15,400 --> 01:53:18,439 Speaker 1: I definitely remember him. That brings up this question. Over 2552 01:53:18,479 --> 01:53:21,200 Speaker 1: the last twenty years, the Patriots avoided these types of 2553 01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:25,160 Speaker 1: workout warriors. Did you see this potentially changing? Do you 2554 01:53:25,200 --> 01:53:28,080 Speaker 1: see this potentially changing? Yeah? 2555 01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:31,400 Speaker 9: I think that it's always wise to avoid a workout 2556 01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:37,400 Speaker 9: warrior whose play is not commensurate with his workout numbers, 2557 01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,920 Speaker 9: which was Mamola right, Like he was an okay player 2558 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:45,759 Speaker 9: at PC, but not a top ten kind of player 2559 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,840 Speaker 9: at PC. So I think you always want to avoid that. 2560 01:53:48,880 --> 01:53:50,920 Speaker 9: I don't think the Patriots will do that more now 2561 01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:54,640 Speaker 9: because they're scouting differently. I think you got to go 2562 01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:58,599 Speaker 9: with production, you know, in the in the tape, if 2563 01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,320 Speaker 9: you just try to project and say, well, this guy 2564 01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,439 Speaker 9: should be better than he is, he's really that's when 2565 01:54:02,439 --> 01:54:05,200 Speaker 9: you get into the like you want to look at 2566 01:54:05,320 --> 01:54:09,599 Speaker 9: like a workout warrior draft two years ago, Yeah, with 2567 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:12,599 Speaker 9: with Cole Strange and Taekwon Thornton and Pierre Strong and 2568 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,439 Speaker 9: like they had the fastest in their positions at a 2569 01:54:15,439 --> 01:54:19,200 Speaker 9: lot of different those are workout guys yea, And unfortunately, 2570 01:54:19,720 --> 01:54:21,360 Speaker 9: you know, none of them really panned out. 2571 01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:24,479 Speaker 1: Dan and Virginia Michigan does Paul have any warm wishes 2572 01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:28,160 Speaker 1: for his esteemed colleague in the sports media, Peter King, 2573 01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:33,040 Speaker 1: upon the announcement of his retirement. So it's what Peter King. 2574 01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,880 Speaker 9: We have an inside joke here that Fred and I 2575 01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:42,160 Speaker 9: and are esteemed cohort Matt no socks. We like to 2576 01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:46,320 Speaker 9: immediately jump on a text threat and say, make sure 2577 01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,880 Speaker 9: you take the time out to get on Twitter and 2578 01:54:48,920 --> 01:54:52,920 Speaker 9: wish so and so, you know, a happy retirement, because 2579 01:54:53,080 --> 01:54:56,280 Speaker 9: rather than just like you know, calling them yourself or 2580 01:54:56,680 --> 01:54:59,280 Speaker 9: texting them yourself, you have to show everybody else in 2581 01:54:59,320 --> 01:55:02,640 Speaker 9: the world that you know him, right, which to me 2582 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:06,240 Speaker 9: is always grand standing in social media, right, you know, 2583 01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,360 Speaker 9: and I remember, you know, he was so good to 2584 01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:10,879 Speaker 9: me as a young report Like, so that's not really about. 2585 01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,560 Speaker 8: People like dedicating their careers. 2586 01:55:12,640 --> 01:55:14,880 Speaker 6: Yeah right, that's not really about Peter King. That's really 2587 01:55:14,880 --> 01:55:17,760 Speaker 6: about you call them correct. 2588 01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:21,400 Speaker 9: So, so Fred and I and Matt we like to 2589 01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:23,839 Speaker 9: sort of poke fun at that. This is an indicator. 2590 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:26,960 Speaker 9: This is a situation. I honestly, I've met Peter King 2591 01:55:27,040 --> 01:55:30,960 Speaker 9: a handful of times, but never really formally, you know, 2592 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,040 Speaker 9: I in passing. 2593 01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:33,840 Speaker 1: I don't know him. 2594 01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:35,680 Speaker 6: I don't know him. I don't know him at all 2595 01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:37,760 Speaker 6: other than his column. 2596 01:55:38,320 --> 01:55:40,200 Speaker 9: So I don't really have, you know, and I know 2597 01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,280 Speaker 9: that that was tongue in cheek the email, but I 2598 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:46,360 Speaker 9: do find it funny. Like everybody, like I was like yesterday, 2599 01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:49,000 Speaker 9: I was like, huh, Peter King retire. I wouldn't know, 2600 01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:54,680 Speaker 9: you know, it was like literally fifty different people all 2601 01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:56,680 Speaker 9: regaling you with the same story about how good And 2602 01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:59,200 Speaker 9: I'm sure he's I'm sure he's a wonderful guy, you 2603 01:55:59,240 --> 01:55:59,920 Speaker 9: know behind the scenes. 2604 01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure that all these people bad things about us during. 2605 01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,200 Speaker 9: But I'm sure that all these people were telling the truth, 2606 01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:06,560 Speaker 9: Like you know Albert Breer who worked with him, which 2607 01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:08,360 Speaker 9: to me is a little different because he did actually 2608 01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,240 Speaker 9: work side by side with Peter King at s I 2609 01:56:11,840 --> 01:56:14,560 Speaker 9: but talk to Peter, right, But if you have that 2610 01:56:14,680 --> 01:56:17,800 Speaker 9: to say, yeah, or if you want to write it 2611 01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,800 Speaker 9: in your column or something like that, I mean, I 2612 01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,480 Speaker 9: get that, Yeah. 2613 01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:23,360 Speaker 8: He's from Springfield. I'm from Springfield. 2614 01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:25,520 Speaker 3: I'm not going to write an essay about him like 2615 01:56:25,640 --> 01:56:27,160 Speaker 3: paving the way from Springfield. 2616 01:56:27,200 --> 01:56:29,040 Speaker 9: For me, I've never met the guy. Like, I'm not 2617 01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:31,280 Speaker 9: going to go on Twitter and pretend you know. 2618 01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:33,880 Speaker 1: The other one I like is the young kids now 2619 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm just want to let the world know 2620 01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:39,840 Speaker 1: that I'll be leaving my job of those and I'll 2621 01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:42,280 Speaker 1: be I have a great opportunity. I'm going to so 2622 01:56:42,480 --> 01:56:42,640 Speaker 1: and so. 2623 01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:45,720 Speaker 6: I can't say it. Yeah news, got big news. 2624 01:56:45,480 --> 01:56:47,160 Speaker 8: Coming excited to share what's next? 2625 01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,760 Speaker 1: Okay, if you have people you want to tell that, 2626 01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,520 Speaker 1: to send an email to those people, you know, but 2627 01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,280 Speaker 1: they have to go on social media and you know, 2628 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:58,800 Speaker 1: tell the world. And I know I sound like a boomer. 2629 01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,680 Speaker 9: But you know, and I know we we do sound 2630 01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:02,560 Speaker 9: like boomers. And I'm okay with it in this case. 2631 01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:04,560 Speaker 9: But you also when you get let go, and I 2632 01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:07,560 Speaker 9: don't I hate when people lose their jobs before anybody. 2633 01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:09,200 Speaker 1: Today. 2634 01:57:09,520 --> 01:57:13,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, so what are you doing that for? You're doing that? 2635 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,560 Speaker 9: So now one hundred of my followers will now tell 2636 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:19,600 Speaker 9: me that's not fair. One of the best in the business. 2637 01:57:20,440 --> 01:57:23,560 Speaker 9: No one does it better. He won't be unemployed long Like. 2638 01:57:23,800 --> 01:57:26,160 Speaker 1: Well, no, if if if I was young and I 2639 01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:28,640 Speaker 1: got laid off, I would do it to say anyone 2640 01:57:28,680 --> 01:57:29,280 Speaker 1: got a job. 2641 01:57:29,480 --> 01:57:31,280 Speaker 6: Well, that's different. Yeah, that's different. 2642 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:33,600 Speaker 9: Like if you're solictening a job, Yes, that's a different 2643 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:35,160 Speaker 9: Why I would, But I'm just talking about like you're 2644 01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,520 Speaker 9: just looking for the attention and social media. That's all 2645 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:42,680 Speaker 9: you're doing. It's transparent, Alex and her ilk and Dan. 2646 01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:46,320 Speaker 1: Dan also says a number of people with them, A 2647 01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:49,800 Speaker 1: number of people, including Paul, have noted key events in 2648 01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:53,200 Speaker 1: the documentary that are not being covered. Isn't this series 2649 01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:56,520 Speaker 1: largely a Patriots Mister Craft joint or at least heavily 2650 01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:00,400 Speaker 1: influenced by them? If so, why aren't they covering these events? No, 2651 01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:03,640 Speaker 1: it's not it. I mean it is. No, it isn't. 2652 01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:05,680 Speaker 6: But it wasn't done by them, It wasn't. 2653 01:58:05,440 --> 01:58:08,960 Speaker 1: Done by us. We cooperated, you know, they asked us 2654 01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,120 Speaker 1: for material. We got him as much as we could, 2655 01:58:11,200 --> 01:58:13,440 Speaker 1: just like they asked the NFL film they shot stuff here, 2656 01:58:13,520 --> 01:58:17,240 Speaker 1: and Brady's people they asked for stuff. So we cooperated. 2657 01:58:17,320 --> 01:58:20,160 Speaker 1: But like I can tell you that our PR guy 2658 01:58:21,080 --> 01:58:24,120 Speaker 1: was petrified because he had no idea what was in 2659 01:58:24,200 --> 01:58:27,480 Speaker 1: this thing, and he was really worried about what was 2660 01:58:27,520 --> 01:58:28,560 Speaker 1: going to be in it. And I don't know if 2661 01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:31,960 Speaker 1: he's still worried or not, but like he was. We 2662 01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:34,880 Speaker 1: didn't know how this was going to come out. We 2663 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:37,440 Speaker 1: had no something it's in a side. 2664 01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:40,480 Speaker 3: But I was just the Mass General Hospital press conference. 2665 01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:42,720 Speaker 3: At the end of it, Stacey goes, Okay, thank you 2666 01:58:42,800 --> 01:58:44,760 Speaker 3: very much, and he says it the same way he 2667 01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:46,120 Speaker 3: still says it. 2668 01:58:46,120 --> 01:58:48,680 Speaker 8: It was just it was another jump scare for me. 2669 01:58:48,720 --> 01:58:51,160 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, that's a scare that. 2670 01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:52,480 Speaker 6: You're getting that one. 2671 01:58:52,600 --> 01:58:52,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2672 01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:55,960 Speaker 6: See, yeah, I try to get all these in my 2673 01:58:56,720 --> 01:58:57,760 Speaker 6: in my repertoire. 2674 01:58:58,040 --> 01:59:00,960 Speaker 1: All right, so hold on what jump scare? 2675 01:59:02,080 --> 01:59:03,760 Speaker 6: That's that, Prescott, what you're just talking about? 2676 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:05,440 Speaker 8: Oh yeah, and you guys are you were sitting in 2677 01:59:05,440 --> 01:59:05,920 Speaker 8: the front row. 2678 01:59:05,960 --> 01:59:06,480 Speaker 6: I'm right there. 2679 01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:08,240 Speaker 8: I saw it. 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