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Speaker 2: Donks look at this now, tip to tip. This is

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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hey, it's the first of February. Everybody, how you doing.

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Speaker 1: Hi.

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Speaker 3: My name is Luke Thomas. It's time for Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Greatest show on Earth, I guess something like that.

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Speaker 1: Uh let's see. My name, as I mentioned, is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 3: I joined you from the capital of the Dodters and

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Speaker 3: News right here in Washington, DC on this hump day,

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Speaker 3: Brian Campbell's favorite day of the week. And of course

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Speaker 3: that's him right there, Brian Campbell, the King of CTE,

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Speaker 3: the King of ct that's my buddy.

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Speaker 1: What's up, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Hey, great to be here, great to you know, great

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Speaker 4: to do this thing with you. I've I've got my

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Speaker 4: uh prime hydration water ready. We're ready to go, Luke.

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Speaker 4: As soon as I finished this AG one and yeah,

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Speaker 4: what a time. But you know, Luke, we are closing

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Speaker 4: in on something that's just spec frickin tacular, if you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean, right, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And of course when you ask me, BC, what is

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Speaker 4: that thing you're talking about right?

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Speaker 1: You bought you bought a lifetime account at Brawsers.

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Speaker 4: No, no, that is not the direction I'm looking to

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Speaker 4: go as an adult, married male at this point in

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Speaker 4: my life. Luke, thank you, but no, seriously, London's coming.

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Speaker 4: We'll probably get to that. But thanks for having us, folks.

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Speaker 4: We're back. We're back with a bang. Mikey Mormle on

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Speaker 4: the ones and twos. It's MK. It's the best damn

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Speaker 4: combat sports show on the planet. As Luke mentioned, you know,

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Speaker 4: this is what we do. Okay, what do you want

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Speaker 4: me to say? What do you want me to do?

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Speaker 4: Read another ad, Luke, this is what we do, okay.

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Speaker 4: We bring you the best of combat, served and cooked

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Speaker 4: up the only way we know how.

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Speaker 1: Filthy indeed quite indeed, we wash our hands.

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Speaker 4: We don't even shower.

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Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing zippy showers. As a reminder, of course, by

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Speaker 3: this time, I'm truly BC. By this time in a week,

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Speaker 3: we will be in London, we'll be in the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 3: Just a few tickets left. I'm really hoping we hit

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Speaker 3: the sellout. If not, it'll still be a really fun

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Speaker 3: that I dotted. Still possible if you want to go,

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Speaker 3: come see us poddash live dot com if you're listening,

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Speaker 3: and of course you can put the QR code up

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Speaker 3: on the screen there to get whatever remaining tickets are available, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, like like James Hetfield said when they accused him

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Speaker 4: we sold out every single arena every night, and that's

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Speaker 3: Also, I'll take a big fat check from someone who's

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Speaker 4: You know, are you talking about a lord or a

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Speaker 4: What do you think about Bernie Madeoff's nephew, Logan. He's

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Speaker 1: Today. We'll mention what news is Aboutlaura Senko.

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Speaker 4: So finally you get to be the Yeah, finally you

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Speaker 3: Yes, we also remind folks to subscribe to Showtime, you

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Speaker 1: I feel like it. You can keep it. If night

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Speaker 3: I know there are some larger stories going on about

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Speaker 3: Showtime in Paramount, but I think all of these will

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's gonna be February seventeenth, Topeka, Kansas, same day

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Speaker 3: You tell the folks what your travel schedule looks like?

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Speaker 1: Announcement to everyone.

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Speaker 3: If you like BC, I highly recommend watching today's show

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm not mad at you taking the gig. I'm

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Speaker 4: You know, you know we got a forty forty four club. Now, Luke,

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Speaker 4: was that where you're going with this?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Something like that. You know you're you're non alcoholic.

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Speaker 1: Fatty liver disease is about to kick up another gear.

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Speaker 1: I know that. That's what I know for sure.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we got out of some of those crisps

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Speaker 4: over there in the UK, Luke, let's do it all right.

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Speaker 3: Also, someone one of us, guess which one had to

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Speaker 1: It wasn't me, hint.

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Speaker 4: They drive on the other side of the road and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you haven't held grudges, you know, Luke, if

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he might get a statue and start making out

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Speaker 3: And I don't think that's unfair in any capacity whatsoever,

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Speaker 4: went in their guns blazing against the dangerous Fador and

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00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,880
Speaker 4: got him before Fader, you know, got him, basically get

433
00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 4: him before he gets you. But if you're the coaching

434
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,320
Speaker 4: staff and you know what's what you're up against in

435
00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,680
Speaker 4: terms of like history and fanfare and all the eyes

436
00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,600
Speaker 4: on CBS Saturday Night. If you look at Fador's two

437
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:21,600
Speaker 4: biggest drawbacks vulnerabilities deficiencies at forty six, they are somewhat

438
00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,240
Speaker 4: glaring gas tank. When was the last time this man

439
00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,479
Speaker 4: has been forced to go deep into a fight and

440
00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:33,000
Speaker 4: want it right? And number two chin mostly because he's

441
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,640
Speaker 4: willing to get into battles and then when big punchers

442
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,800
Speaker 4: catch him he can go so Luke. If your team,

443
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,159
Speaker 4: Ryan Bader, are you one hundred percent looking to wrestle

444
00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 4: this man, suck the entertainment out of this fight and

445
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,439
Speaker 4: gas him the hell out, because if you look at

446
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 4: Ryan Baters's recent stretch, all the wins for the most

447
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 4: part of five round decisions post World Grand Prix tournament,

448
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,960
Speaker 4: that's gotta be plan plan A from the start, Shoot first,

449
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,119
Speaker 4: shoot second, don't ever ask any question. There's nothing a

450
00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,479
Speaker 4: double like probably couldn't figure out.

451
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:02,720
Speaker 1: Looke.

452
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 4: I'm not going to say it's easy to get around

453
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,280
Speaker 4: quick handed, aggressive, powerful, fad or early, but tell me

454
00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,439
Speaker 4: a reason why Ryan Baterer shouldn't try to take this

455
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 4: to the ground all day long.

456
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,640
Speaker 3: He doesn't, I'm that one I can think of. I mean, yeah,

457
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,879
Speaker 3: of course you get two three rounds in the books

458
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,879
Speaker 3: and your guy is visibly tired and beaten up. Yeah,

459
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,600
Speaker 3: there could be a case at that point to really

460
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,840
Speaker 3: keep it on the feet and polish him off for

461
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,440
Speaker 3: reasons that could be, you know, less exhausting or whatever.

462
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 3: There can be ways in which a really dominant on

463
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,440
Speaker 3: top wrestle, heavy draining potentially with ground and pound kind

464
00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 3: of game could open up other avenues a submission or

465
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,159
Speaker 3: otherwise too, by the way, not just something on the feet, right,

466
00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,240
Speaker 3: he could really go forward the submission sense, which Ryan

467
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 3: Bater is not really big on, but can do I suppose, Yeah,

468
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: but this is what I mean, Like, I don't Ryan

469
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 3: Bader knocked Fader out the first time they fought, but

470
00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,720
Speaker 3: as bec indicated, it happened like right at the very

471
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,879
Speaker 3: beginning of the fight, more or less on like the

472
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 3: first or second punch that Bader threw. You know, they

473
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 3: didn't have any kind of prolonged exchanges.

474
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 1: And thirty sec thirty five seconds.

475
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even Fador's advanced age, he probably is still

476
00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: in terms of hand speed as good as Beata, if

477
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 3: not quicker just on pure hand speed. If you are

478
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,960
Speaker 3: a thirty nine year old Ryan Bater and you've been

479
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 3: you still have enough wrestling to keep you in the

480
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 3: space that you occupy currently in mixed martial arts. You're

481
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,440
Speaker 3: a champion of an organization outside of the UFC, which

482
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,439
Speaker 3: is that's honestly, in all the places you can be

483
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 3: in MMA, that is a coveted position. Are you really

484
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 3: going to risk it for some other kind of you know,

485
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:35,840
Speaker 3: ethereal notion of glory or whatever. No, no, no, He's

486
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,280
Speaker 3: going to go in there and wrestle. So this is

487
00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 3: what I mean about fad Or. You know what you're

488
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 3: up against.

489
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 1: Man. You have a very very clear sense of what

490
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 1: you are up against.

491
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Speaker 3: And I think that's going to make Fador open his

492
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 3: style a little bit more, which is going to create

493
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 3: some danger, but it also could get fad Or out

494
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: of there. It's either going to get better out of

495
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 3: there early, or it's going to get Fador himself out

496
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 3: of their early. I just don't see this one as

497
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 3: going the distance, by the.

498
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Speaker 4: Way, do you, Uh No, No, I don't, I don't.

499
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 4: I'm not going VI's Fador can go five rounds at

500
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 4: this point, So let me put that into actual you

501
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 4: know stats, so you understand since Strikeforce folded in. You know,

502
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 4: Fader's last fight in Strikeforce was Dan Henderson in twenty eleven.

503
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,600
Speaker 4: I mentioned he's ten and two cents then, which is great.

504
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:17,600
Speaker 4: Every single fight of those twelve except for two our

505
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 4: first round finishes. The two one was very early. In fact,

506
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:22,959
Speaker 4: it was his first fight after Strikeforce, when he went

507
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,760
Speaker 4: three rounds with Jeff Monson under the M one label

508
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 4: in twenty eleven. And then there was that aforementioned in

509
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 4: our resume review, disputed controversial, kind of gross Fabio Maldonado

510
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 4: fight in twenty sixteen in Russia where it did go

511
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,159
Speaker 4: the three rounds. Fador got a decision that few of

512
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 4: us believe he won, you know, deserved. So Luke like

513
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: stamina wise uphill battle for him. And I don't think

514
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 4: Fador is going to change that famous pooch at all, Luke,

515
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,800
Speaker 4: That's that's permanent on him, right, That's how Fador operates.

516
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: How can you gauge though, where his takedown defense is

517
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 4: at at this point? Can you at all? When it's

518
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 4: ten out of his last twelve fights are first strong finishes.

519
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: Can you can you do anything on that level?

520
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 3: I mean, Fador had great takedown defense earlier in his career.

521
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 3: The game has changed. He has slowed down athletically. You know,

522
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 3: he's got a decent sprawl, but he'll get taken down eventually.

523
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 3: Like I'll say this, for every two attempts, I'd be

524
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 3: surprised that Beata wasn't successful on one of them. I

525
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 3: don't think it's it's certainly one of three at a

526
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: bare minimum. I just you know, I just don't think

527
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 3: he has the I mean understand, right, if you've never

528
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 3: seen Ryan Bader in person, Dude, he's huge. He's a

529
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 3: very He's a large light heavyweight, which is why he

530
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 3: can compete at heavyweight. He's the whole of the heavyweight champion,

531
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 3: which is why he can compete here so easily because

532
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: he is so naturally big, but kind of athletically a

533
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: bit of a different weight class profile. Fad Or is

534
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 3: not gonna be able to stop that takedown for very long.

535
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 3: So the question is not can he stop the takedown

536
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: or will he? The question is once he gets taken down,

537
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,960
Speaker 3: what happens after that? What kind of game plan does

538
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 3: fad Or employ? By the way, where does the takedown

539
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 3: have Does it happen along the fence line or out

540
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 3: in the open? I think that will make a big

541
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,359
Speaker 3: difference as well.

542
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: And then you know.

543
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: How much positional advancement in ground and pound is Bader

544
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 3: really using. He has spent so much time using you know,

545
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 3: occupying risk control and then other kinds of rides. Then

546
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 3: in the last couple of fights, it just hasn't been

547
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 3: a torrential amount of ground and pound. I'd be curious

548
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 3: to see what he does here as well.

549
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 4: Interesting, do you have any kind of idea of what

550
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,199
Speaker 4: your emotions might be like if Fador does this, or

551
00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,959
Speaker 4: the emotions of the average hardcore MMA fan who is

552
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: tuning in because they love this guy. And you know, again,

553
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 4: what is he secured his entire legacy and greatness? No,

554
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 4: you know this, A win here doesn't really alter that.

555
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 4: A loss here doesn't alter that. But what are you

556
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 4: gonna feel like if he does this? Luke, That's about

557
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 4: the most wholesome moment we could.

558
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 1: Have, right I think, you know, you know, I had

559
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: kind of in my mind. I think a lot of fans,

560
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 1: I mean, here's just the reality about using fad or

561
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three for a headliner like there is

562
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: we should be honest about this, a little bit of

563
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, not controversy is the right word, but some opinion.

564
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like the guy is nearly fifty, he's

565
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: still doing this, But of course that doesn't really tell

566
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,439
Speaker 1: you the full story, because we all know he's had

567
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a late career renaissance. But what I

568
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: mean to say is, following like the Henderson loss, following

569
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 1: like the Maldonado fight, following the Pedro Hiszzo fight, like

570
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: fans have kind of let go.

571
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: And buried Fador a little bit already. They've kind of

572
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 3: already begun to slowly detach themselves. And you know, it's

573
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 3: funny some of the guys that they didn't let themselves

574
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 3: to get detached from had like terrible endings. You know,

575
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 3: they didn't you know, Frankieger did not get the fairy

576
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: tale ending, for example, that that everyone really wanted and

577
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: had to kind of go out retirement. Anyway, it's weird

578
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,360
Speaker 3: like Fador might be in the opposite position where he's

579
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 3: actually able to pull out the miracle and get some

580
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 3: kind of really feel good moment, especially for the people

581
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,800
Speaker 3: who you've been around and watching long stretches of his career.

582
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 3: At the same time, though, I think you know he

583
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 3: has retired previously, He's been gone for stretches he had,

584
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 3: you know, where you kind of like, oh my god,

585
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 3: like the Fader we know is now gone following the

586
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 3: Moldonado fight stuff like that, where you know how much

587
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: fan attachment is there to him? Still some for sure,

588
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: but it's a unique position he's in where he has

589
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 3: this rejuvenating moment and yet I'm not sure that everyone

590
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 3: has been along for this part of his journey. Obviously

591
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: that was previous years. So how will I feel personally?

592
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 3: I will feel gratitude that I got to watch a

593
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 3: guy's career like this. You know, how will the fans feel?

594
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 3: It'll be mixed, It'll be weird mostly, But.

595
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look that you could get cyenecal and snarky, certainly,

596
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: but Ryan Bader, even at thirty nine, not thirty eight,

597
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 4: I'll dead wrong myself. You were right even at thirty nine,

598
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 4: and even with having been knocked out a few times

599
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 4: of late, but at heavyweight, you know, I'll pill battle

600
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 4: a tough climb if Fador gets it. If he doesn't.

601
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 4: I mean, it looks it's crazy here when you think

602
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 4: back to like what it meant when Fador was originally

603
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 4: on CBS. Now now, Cocher and Strikeforce weren't the first, right,

604
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: it was a lead XC who had those trio of

605
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,159
Speaker 4: shows in what there was a two thousand and nine

606
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: on CBS, and you know it was Kimbo was the

607
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: push and of course it's Seth Petrozzelli upset loss, you know,

608
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 4: through the company into bankruptcy and that was the end

609
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 4: of it. Scott Coker put Strikeforce right in a key

610
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 4: spot right after that in a year later, we got

611
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: Fado versus Rogers and you know, and it did. It

612
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 4: did gangbusters in terms of ratings, and it was exciting,

613
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: and you know, it was a couple of you know,

614
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 4: it was right before UFC signs the Fox deal. So

615
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,439
Speaker 4: it shows that at that point it meant something completely different.

616
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: It showed that you could take this cage fighting and

617
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 4: send it to the masses. And you know, as long

618
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 4: as Jake Shields and company aren't brawling in Nashville, everything's okay.

619
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that today UFC has been on you know,

620
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: Fox to ESPN and has some dates on ABC now.

621
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 4: But it certainly brings a high level of royalty to

622
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 4: the idea of like Cocher coming back using that old

623
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 4: trick in his playbook and CBS coming back. And you

624
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 4: know what does this mean in terms of the potential

625
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 4: for ratings for more bellat Are on CBS, for PBC

626
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 4: boxing to make another run on CBS. I mean, there

627
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 4: is there is a lot of fallout that could happen here,

628
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 4: especially if this is a success.

629
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 3: But we're gonna get you this later in the show.

630
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: We have a bunch of questions for you about it.

631
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 4: I just can't believe, though, that favor was here. I

632
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 4: can't believe that he was the guy who did it

633
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 4: then and he's the guy that does it now. It's

634
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 4: it's so it's so wild bloke, but it's.

635
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 3: A it's a it's it's the one of the more

636
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 3: unusual careers even for and I've seen some unusual ones,

637
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 3: and his is still all of the greats, right, They

638
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 3: all retired in like a lot of and DJ's not

639
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: done yet, so I guess we'll see how he does it.

640
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 3: But like they've all had very different kind of endings

641
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 3: in a way, Favors is as unique as as as

642
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: he has been a character in MMA, I think, but

643
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: we don't know a bunch of questions about.

644
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: This little footnote I saw yesterday that I'd forgotten was

645
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: when the Petrozzelli upset of Kimbo, when Ken Schamrock had

646
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 4: the cut, and you know all the wackiness that went

647
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 4: down there in Florida that night, that elitic C was

648
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 4: scheduled to have the next main event be Eddie Alvarez

649
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: versus Nick Diaz. Right, copletely forgot completely forgot about that.

650
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it never happened, of course, but yeah, there's a

651
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: there's still a fight poster. You can go see it.

652
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 1: They made it.

653
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: It just never happened, all right. See, Let's talk about

654
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 3: the co main event. Now, this is an interesting one too.

655
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: The odds are closer on this one, and I think appropriately.

656
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 3: Johnny Eblin, who is the Bellatore middleweight champion, fresh off

657
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 3: of the win over Giyguard Musase, which was.

658
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:23,959
Speaker 1: A dominating win.

659
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: If ever there was one, he takes on a guy

660
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: that you know, the fans are just not gonna know.

661
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 3: I don't know how they're gonna care about this fight,

662
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 3: because I'm not sure people really knew who Johnny Ebulin

663
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,719
Speaker 3: was before he fought Musase. He hasn't really been doing

664
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: a lot of media since then. And Tokov is a hammer.

665
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: Listen to these.

666
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 3: Odds plus one fifty for Tokov minus one seventy five

667
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: for Johnny Eblin. Eblin also, by the way, for folks

668
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 3: who may not know, from that same program as Ben Asker,

669
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 3: Michael Chandler out of the University of Missouri, Tyron Woodley,

670
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: all of those guys wrestled there, and now he's out

671
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: of American top team. He is very, very talented BC.

672
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: You and I have been known about Johnny Eblin for

673
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: some time. Tokaw is a bit of a different guy.

674
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 3: Here's the only thing B see for Tokall that I

675
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: got a bit of a question about. He had only

676
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 3: two fights since the Pandemics since twentyin a teen he

677
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: had two fights, one of which he looked very so

678
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 3: so in which was his belatour debut, and then he

679
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 3: had looked pretty good in his last fight against another

680
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: dude out of I forget his name, I'll pull it

681
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 3: up here just a second, and I look Mohammed Abdullah,

682
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: Mohammad Abd.

683
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,239
Speaker 4: You gotta get that you gotta get that fact right.

684
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: He debuted with Belatour.

685
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 3: And then I apologize his Bellatour return since the pandemic.

686
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 3: He looked okay against Sharif dav Lotte, Morodov looked okay,

687
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: and then he looked really good against Mohammed ab Dolah,

688
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: who was just completely overmatched. We don't exactly know how

689
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: good he is, but we do know he looks pretty

690
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,959
Speaker 3: good on paper, It looks pretty good on film. He's

691
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 3: just chiseled out of stone and he's highly experienced. What

692
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: are you expecting in this middleweight title clash?

693
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: The thread of a big upset here, and as big

694
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 4: of an upset as Johnny Eblin against Musasi felt like

695
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 4: not a big upset. I mean, look, Johnny had the

696
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 4: credentials coming in on beaten in the strong wrestling game,

697
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: but he had a lot of questions to answer if

698
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 4: he could implement it as dominantly as he ended up

699
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: doing against Musasi and opened up a lot of our

700
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 4: eyes similar to what Amasov did it welter Wright before

701
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: that it was a breakout performance, but now this is

702
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: a very, very tough out. The odds recognized that took

703
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: off seven and overall, like I said, since debuting in

704
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: Belator twenty seventeen, and even with that pandemic break and

705
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 4: maybe a comeback that wasn't so inspiring, his body is

706
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 4: a wonderland, as you mentioned, and he is just a

707
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 4: tough ass out. Look, he's team at Fador. This is correct, right,

708
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 4: He's a product of Team Vador, who you know, and

709
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 4: Fado as a coach and a stable builder, has brought

710
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 4: a lot of big names or guys that have become

711
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 4: big names in Belator, including Nemcov, Valentine Moldowsky and all that.

712
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: This is a very very tough out for Eblem because

713
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 4: the question for Johnny Eblin Luke for me at this

714
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 4: highest level is if he can't use his wrestling to

715
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 4: dominate you, can you strike on that same level? Now

716
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 4: he mixes both together very well. You can give me.

717
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 4: You gave me a little face there. What do you got?

718
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 4: What do you got?

719
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't.

720
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: I just don't think to like. Tokov's not okay. It's

721
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: highly unlikely that Tokov is gonna want to fight for

722
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 3: long stretches on the feet either. He might do it

723
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,719
Speaker 3: if he's really getting the better of it, like if

724
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 3: there's a clear difference, but my hunch is that there's

725
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: not gonna be a huge difference. Probably he's a little

726
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: bit better, a little bit faster, he's a little bit

727
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: more aggressive.

728
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: But this is one of the problems. B see.

729
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 3: Like, one of the things that's a big problem for

730
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: him in this fight is that one. I don't think

731
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 3: in terms of pure wrestling, he's as good as Eblin.

732
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 4: Two.

733
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: The other problem is that he likes to jab and

734
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: move forward constantly, and it gives opponents and then you

735
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: see this on the on tape with him a lot.

736
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 3: It gives opponents all kinds of opportunities to get double

737
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 3: underhooks whenever they whenever he tries that, he has to

738
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: kind of fight his way out of it. You give

739
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: that to Johnny Eblin, you're gonna have a bad day, dude.

740
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't fight that way against him at all.

741
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 3: Which means if he's gonna be striking, he's gonna be

742
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: striking if he's doing it smartly, kind of keeping his

743
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: range the whole time.

744
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: I just he's not a dynamic threat from there.

745
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: He's good when he can mix it up on the mat,

746
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 3: good and aggressive on with back takes. He's a great

747
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 3: finisher in that position as well. Like, that's really where

748
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: he's going to mix it up. This is going to be,

749
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 3: in my view, what you never know, but in all likelihood,

750
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: long stretches of this fight should be contested in one

751
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 3: way or the other in a grappling or wrestling context.

752
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 4: True, but he's also very physical, very strong and tough.

753
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: So you know, I don't know if Eblin has that

754
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: same level of physical domination against him again that he's

755
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: enjoyed against certain other guys. But you know, our our

756
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: teammate there at CBS Sports MK contributor, we're talking about

757
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 4: Shaquille Massouri, you know, the Prince of Persia there. You know,

758
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 4: he went on Twitter and said, this is the best

759
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 4: fight of the entire weekend.

760
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: Luke, Sure, false, Well, it's a little strong. It could be.

761
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: It could be. There are ways, Okay, if you were.

762
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: Making a list of like the like, if you had

763
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: to pick five, you could put it on the list.

764
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: But I just don't think it would be.

765
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 4: You're sleeping on tokof right now. I can sense it.

766
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: I can.

767
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: I think you are sleeping on Eblin a little bit. Again,

768
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: the odds are fair. Let me read the odds one time,

769
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: Tokov plus one fifty Eblin minus.

770
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 1: Won seventy five.

771
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 3: So it's even narrower than the main event. It's not

772
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: a huge difference between them. I think that's fair. I

773
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: think it's about that competitive. I don't think that there

774
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: is a huge difference between them in either way. The

775
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 3: problem that I think Tokov has is that while he

776
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: is I think a little bit more athletically well rounded

777
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 3: to your point, like he's got a little bit more

778
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 3: going on in that way, Eblin, I think, is a

779
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: pure better wrestler number one and number two, Tokov's style

780
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 3: in the way in which he initiates offense might give

781
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: him some problems against the very particular strengths of Johnny Eblin.

782
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 3: That's sort of my point.

783
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 4: Okay, what if I asked you this somewhat cynical question

784
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 4: here Eblin's twelve and zero, the domination of Musasi five

785
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 4: over five rounds was like damn, okay, and look it

786
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 4: be John Salter, a very strong wrestler veteran.

787
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: Remember that he dropped Musas with punches and hurt him

788
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 3: several times.

789
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 4: Right, I'm not going to try to imply that it

790
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 4: was all wrestling. His striking up in that definitely, and

791
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 4: the Salter wins stands up that was sort of his

792
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: number one contender opportunity. But he just has twelve pro

793
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 4: fights before Musasians, Insalter. He didn't fight a guy with

794
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: a Wikipedia page, Luke, which you know could mean nothing,

795
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 4: could mean something. What about if Tokov makes this a fight?

796
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: Have we seen enough of Johnny Eblin having to rally,

797
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: having to you know? And this is a question we

798
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: ask a lot. When somebody arrives on the scene. They

799
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 4: don't have an overabundant amount of fights your experience, but

800
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 4: they get big winsic succession, which puts them in big

801
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 4: spots into it. He took advantage of his big spots.

802
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: But Luke, do you have any fears with this guy?

803
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 4: You have any fears that there are certain things we

804
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 4: haven't seen yet from him.

805
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: Sure, I tend to think that his striking is from

806
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 3: what I've seen, it is competent and useful for other

807
00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: portions of the game beyond wrestling, but by itself not

808
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 3: something that he could, over the course of a full

809
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: fight against a contender, rely upon to carry him to victory.

810
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,399
Speaker 3: Right like you can do something with it, But it's

811
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: not a way you could fight five rounds on the

812
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 3: feet and expect to maintain your title.

813
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Like, it's not that good in that sense.

814
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: Which, by the way, like there's a lot of guys

815
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 3: who are very, very good who don't have those kinds

816
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 3: of skill sets. But I think that could eventually be

817
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 3: something that's important that he has to look at it

818
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 3: to your point that there's some experience there, and like

819
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 3: what does he look like when he's been cut, when

820
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,240
Speaker 3: he's been taken down, when he has to rally?

821
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 1: He's just been kind of.

822
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: Doing them all of the dealing basically since day one. Dude,

823
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 3: this is a tough fight for him. But I mean

824
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 3: the amount of fights he has to me is not

825
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 3: as relevant considering he's been in five rounds, He's already

826
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 3: got a title outside of the UFC. He has extensive

827
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: collegiate experience in wrestling, which means you know, competition day,

828
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: cutting weight, getting ready, all that stuff. He trains with

829
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 3: a world class team, he has world class corners. No, dude,

830
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: he's a world class fighter. I'm not the level of

831
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: the difference in fights to me is not as relevant.

832
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: Okay, but Tokov is one year older and has nearly

833
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: three times the amount of pro experience. So that's all I.

834
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 3: Weir enough do Tokoff's a hammer like he or he

835
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 3: is a hammer. I mean, if Tokov wins, no one

836
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 3: should be in any way surprise. The odds are fair.

837
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: I just over the course of a five round fight,

838
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 3: you're trying to find what things might differentiate them and

839
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: then how those differences might lead to the outcomes. Evelyn

840
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 3: could get wiped off the face of a mat with

841
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: a big punch here if he is not managing his

842
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: distance or.

843
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: His game plan correctly. I mean, all that's in play.

844
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: Or he can get his back taken, he could get

845
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: pounded out, he could get finished off. Tokov has that physicality,

846
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 3: but wrestling for wrestling over the course of twenty five minutes,

847
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick Evelin to win, and I think he

848
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 3: has enough if he plays the right game plan to

849
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 3: get that done. But to your point, that's crossing that

850
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 3: bridge is not so easy, not so.

851
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, He's gonna have to continue to

852
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 4: show us. And just a reminder, this was supposed to

853
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 4: be a deem nem CoV versus jol Romero and you

854
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 4: lose you know, a certain level of sexiness, but we

855
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 4: may have gotten a better matchup overall in terms of

856
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: a replacement here, So very very fired up for the

857
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 4: Comain event Saturday night.

858
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 3: And then last but not least, I'm not sure how

859
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 3: many fights are on the main card on CBS three Wikipedia, Yeah,

860
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,359
Speaker 3: and that by saying Wikipedia, they have just three, So

861
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: this would be the now that frogs being like, well,

862
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 3: that might not make sense. The Strikeforce did that one

863
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 3: time on CBS when King Mo beat Musaci. As a

864
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 3: matter of fact, for that middle eight Strikeforce title, they

865
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: had I think Gilbert Melendez defend this title, and there

866
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 3: was actually three title fights on that card, so they

867
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: had all three went all five rounds or whatever it was,

868
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 3: All three went the distance and it was kind of crazy.

869
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 3: This time they've got two fights that could go five rounds,

870
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 3: but just one that's set for three and BC, I

871
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: gotta tell you if I'm looking at any fight on

872
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 3: that main card and I'm like, I just cannot imagine

873
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 3: this one reaching a conclusion where the judges are you're needed.

874
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Although stranger things have happened, I suppose, but still.

875
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: It's gotta be Sabajo Masi taking on Brennan Ward a

876
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 3: welterweight contest BC. The odds even closer for this one

877
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 3: than the previous Brennan Ward a plus one forty five

878
00:38:56,239 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 3: underdog to Sabajo Masi's minus one seventy. BC interviewed Brendan

879
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 3: Warre will look at that in just a few minutes,

880
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 3: but I want to open up this with you first.

881
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 3: A Connecticut guy, blue collar guy, union labor guy, very

882
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 3: proud of that fact, by the way, great story here,

883
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: and I think I understand why he's not favored. Homasi

884
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 3: has had his ups, he's had his downs, but he's

885
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: had some pretty good ups recently.

886
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,359
Speaker 1: He comes to Bang, he's got.

887
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: A great corner and with with Mike Brown and Dustin

888
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 3: Poarier and many others, a world class corner himself. And

889
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: while Brennan Ward has looked good since getting right, he's

890
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: not really fought big name competition in any kind of way,

891
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: Holmasi has. So they've got this collision style fight, which.

892
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna they're gonna reach.

893
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 3: But I guess I understand Homasi getting a slight nod

894
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: from the odds makers about who the favorite here is.

895
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot of questions separate

896
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 4: from the life path, but you can't really separate Brennan

897
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 4: Ward's incredible, you know, resurrection to some degree in terms

898
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: of getting back, his getting back his life and then

899
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 4: being able to get back into the sport. I mean,

900
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 4: we said it the other day, just him coming back

901
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two. He had two victories, both by stop,

902
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 4: but just getting back to that point is just I mean,

903
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 4: it's just incredible from where he was, the depths of

904
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 4: darkness of where he was and his long history of

905
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: like not even training for fights we find out after

906
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 4: the fact, but it's a much lower level of competition

907
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 4: that he did come back against. This is the real

908
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 4: close up for Brendan Ward in terms of like, Okay,

909
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 4: great story, you're back, Now, what can you do with it?

910
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: Now?

911
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 4: Look, he fought for a belt or middleway title in

912
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 4: the past and lost Alexander Slimenko, and you know sort

913
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 4: of had lost when he stepped up to his highest

914
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: level fights Paul Daily, if you remember as a good example,

915
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 4: HOLMASI also when he stepped up the high level fights,

916
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 4: seems to have lost that. So it does feel like

917
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 4: a very even matchup. Although Hamasi and Paul Daily had

918
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 4: nearly the fight of the Year in twenty twenty one one,

919
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 4: you should revisit certainly if you haven't seen it. Just

920
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 4: a batshit crazy fight. But Luke, you don't need to

921
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 4: check out my Patreon podcast with James Krause called Parlays

922
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 4: and Punani's to find out that you should bet the

923
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: under on this one because these two have the hit

924
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 4: history of making great action fights. And all you have

925
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 4: to do is listen to any Brennan Ward interview and

926
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 4: he's gonna tell you pre comeback or not that he's

927
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 4: he has one gear, and that's to come in there,

928
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 4: throw big, put his chin in danger, and try to

929
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 4: just absolutely outslug you. And that is Homasi's mission. And

930
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: you know, Hamasi is one of the cooler individuals in

931
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 4: terms of presenting a look Luke presenting a feel. He's

932
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 4: always got the hair spiked up and dyed and the

933
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 4: glasses on and he's I mean, that's the exact way

934
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 4: that he fights at the end of the day. So

935
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 4: there's certainly opportunities here for both to advance. So Homasi

936
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 4: also on a two fight winstreak at the moment. But

937
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: in terms of like breaking down or trying to pick

938
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: a favorite here, dude, they're gonna throw big and it's

939
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 4: who can be the last man standing. That's they're telling you.

940
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 4: That's literally what's gonna happen. Luke, That's literally what's gonna happen.

941
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 4: And I think this is great matchmaking. It's certainly a

942
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: huge opportunity for Brennan Ward. But SABAHOMASI at thirty four,

943
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: I didn't realize he'd fall all the way and strike force.

944
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: He turned prone two thousand and nine, so he's certainly

945
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,919
Speaker 4: well traveled. Twenty seven pro fights. Look, do you remember

946
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: his UFC run at all?

947
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 1: No, not much. It was not especially distinguished.

948
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been able, though, to put it together and

949
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: make himself at this point in his career, you know,

950
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 4: as dangerous as he can be. Dude, you know there's

951
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: no other way to handicap this. They're gonna throw big

952
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: and whoever gets there first, and I can't wait to

953
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: see it.

954
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's gonna be crazy. Now we have a

955
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: couple of clips. I spoke to Brennan Ward about the

956
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: changes in his life. For folks who may not know,

957
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: of course, he was badly addicted to drugs and had

958
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 3: to go into rehab and it was just a completely

959
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 3: horrible situation. I asked him about his We have two

960
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 3: clips here. The first one is about his comeback and

961
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 3: about him actually training in a way where you just

962
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: can't believe the conditions under which he was previously training

963
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 3: given how he's doing it now.

964
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: He talks about some of the differences.

965
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny you've had two fights after

966
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: your last fight in twenty seven. I mean, when do

967
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: you feel like, haven't And I mean this is like

968
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: in a positive way, but like, haven't you already come back?

969
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: When you say the comeback, what does that mean?

970
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 5: What?

971
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: What has to happen for that to be fulfilled? So

972
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: I so.

973
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,919
Speaker 6: When I when I had my first fight back last

974
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 6: year in February, and uh, then again in June, I

975
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 6: was just gonna I was just gonna fight, you know,

976
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 6: not to say middle of the road guys, but like

977
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 6: you know, no top contenders.

978
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna take any time off of.

979
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 6: My job, and I was just you know, and what

980
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 6: you got is what you got. I trained a couple

981
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,959
Speaker 6: of times a week my fight in June. I thought

982
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 6: I trained maybe once or twice a week, you know,

983
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 6: and I go out there, you know, and I'm fighting

984
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 6: a guy who's, you know, not necessarily a contender, but

985
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 6: this kid's trained full time. So I said, you know what,

986
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: you know, the opportunity came to fight Sabah on the

987
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 6: main card, and I haven't worked and by the time

988
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 6: the fight comes it will be over two months. I've

989
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 6: been training full time again like I did when I

990
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: was young, and to me, that's the comeback.

991
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 4: I put my job aside.

992
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 6: My company had a great relationship with my company, my

993
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 6: union contracting company, and they gave me the time off.

994
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 6: I've been grind in two three times a day every day,

995
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 6: and to me, that's the comeback right now, because there's

996
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 6: no one's gonna stop me from getting the belt at

997
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 6: one seventy and the belt at.

998
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:13,280
Speaker 1: Reaction.

999
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: I mean, it's you know, there's been some really good

1000
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 4: pieces written on him last year when he did or

1001
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 4: you know, maybe right before the comeback last year in

1002
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, that he referenced there, and I mean,

1003
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 4: I cannot believe reading those deep details of like you know,

1004
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: when he when he's fighting Cyborg Santos, when he's fighting

1005
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 4: Paul Daley and building up to these you know, big

1006
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: fights for his career.

1007
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: Dude.

1008
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not in the gym at all, and

1009
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 4: to hear that he wasn't even recently because of his

1010
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: working schedule, and now he gets to kind of finally

1011
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 4: somewhat go all in leading up to here. I think

1012
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: there's an idea here, Luke that we don't really actually

1013
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,399
Speaker 4: know what's possible for him. It's gonna take it took

1014
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 4: it took a lot just to get back, certainly nearly

1015
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 4: five years off run ins with the law. And when

1016
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 4: we talk about drug abuse, this was hard drug abuse,

1017
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 4: the kind that most people don't come back from. But

1018
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: he's always been in great shape despite all everything going

1019
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 4: on outside his life. You know, wrestling background just has

1020
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 4: that that attitude that that sling it and bring it attitude.

1021
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,239
Speaker 4: I don't really know, Luke, what the expectations are in

1022
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 4: terms of this fight and beyond, Like I love the

1023
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 4: passion and hear him say, you know, I want to

1024
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: be a champion of two weight divisions. You know, you

1025
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: guys aren't gonna be ready to see what happens when

1026
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: I go all in. Well, the time is now to

1027
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 4: go all in and in the first step is Saturday

1028
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 4: in terms of the step up level of competition. But

1029
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: how can how can you even try to? I don't know,

1030
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 4: like take take into account the layoff, the lack of

1031
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 4: game planning that he's always sort of enjoyed. I mean,

1032
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 4: he's always going out there to just swing big. How

1033
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 4: how much could he improve on that with taking this

1034
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 4: super serious? Based on what you see him, he's a

1035
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 4: physical freak, but it's.

1036
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: Really he's a good hard to know. Yeah, it's super

1037
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: hard to know. Like how amenable to a game is

1038
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: an athlete at.

1039
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: Thirty four really for the first time anyway, Like when

1040
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: you're fourteen and a coach gives you a game plan,

1041
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 3: you might soak it in a little bit better because

1042
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 3: you're really looking for some clear direction, some purpose and

1043
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 3: they can kind of provide you with that. When you're

1044
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 3: thirty four, are you as as amenable to that? These

1045
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: are some of the challenges that he has to overcome.

1046
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 3: The only thing I can tell you is man, Like

1047
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: I said this on when Wednesday, maybe a Monday or

1048
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,160
Speaker 3: Friday show, when we had kind of talked about this

1049
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: upcoming fight, was just that when you talk to him

1050
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: about the layers in which he had to puel back

1051
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: his life and then kind of discard the old portions

1052
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 3: of it. Just the amount of things that had to

1053
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 3: be different. I just feel like he's in the best

1054
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 3: possible place he could be to learn at age thirty four,

1055
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 3: given what's happened. If that makes any sense, be see right,

1056
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 3: Like I honestly don't know. To your point, I don't know,

1057
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 3: and I.

1058
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: Really wish good things for him, like win or lose.

1059
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: May the best man win.

1060
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 3: But I want him to have a performance that he

1061
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,120
Speaker 3: can be proud of, just giving the human interest story.

1062
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: But what is possible? I simply do not know. I

1063
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 3: just do know that whatever is there, he's mining for it.

1064
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 3: He's mining for it every day, hard hat on. He's

1065
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 3: looking for it, and I guess we're gonna see what

1066
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 3: he can put together in the end.

1067
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 4: Like I could relate to not you know, not his

1068
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: exact struggle, but just the idea of you know, you

1069
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,720
Speaker 4: get to a certain point in your life and things

1070
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 4: didn't go the way that's expected. You made some big mistakes,

1071
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 4: but what could you do with a second chance. He's

1072
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 4: looking to max out the second chance, and I respect

1073
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: that huge and in one of the stories I was referencing.

1074
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 4: If you're looking for more details on this, Nolan King

1075
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 4: of m a Junkie to kick Off twenty twenty two,

1076
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: had had a very detailed feature on exactly how dark

1077
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: it got for Brennan Ward. I mean, look, he got

1078
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 4: arrested for fighting cops. I mean, look, there's a lot

1079
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 4: of craziness that went on, and you know, I thought

1080
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,840
Speaker 4: he might come back with and you know, with a

1081
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 4: different game plan or the idea of wrestle first and

1082
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 4: you know, and brawl only if you have to. I

1083
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 4: don't feel that that it's gonna change. Look, I think

1084
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: I think he loves the all or nothing style and

1085
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 4: that's the way he gets it's down.

1086
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: I think he loves it to an extent.

1087
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: But I do think he's going to have a little

1088
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 3: bit of smarts, a little bit, especially if he gets

1089
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: cracked with a big one. Although if you know, to

1090
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 3: your point, who knows he gets cracked with a big

1091
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: one and then maybe he decides to crack a big

1092
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 3: one back. Because HOMASI fights balls out too, you know

1093
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 3: what I mean, Like, he doesn't fight. I wouldn't say

1094
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: he's completely reckless, but he doesn't fight in a very

1095
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 3: reserved way.

1096
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: I mean, you would not say that about him.

1097
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: So that's gonna be your fun one main event by

1098
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: the way, you're sorry. Main card anyway, Main card CBS

1099
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 3: nine pm in the East, nine pm in the East.

1100
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 4: Is when that I looked it up, HOLMASI went oh

1101
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 4: and three in the UFC beginning in twenty sixteen. He

1102
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 4: was stopped by Tim Means and then he had the

1103
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: back to back knockout losses to Abdul was Al Haston Razaka. Yeah,

1104
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: you got what I'm saying there. But he has.

1105
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: He's had a bit of a renaissance since then.

1106
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 4: But yeah, oh he's turned to turn things around. I mean,

1107
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 4: this is this is again great booking. But Luke, we

1108
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,800
Speaker 4: talk about this preliminary card, which begins at six pm

1109
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 4: Eastern on YouTube in Pluto TV. It's like littered with

1110
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 4: a who's who of who's relevant today in Bellator.

1111
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I mean, I don't want to get

1112
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: too far into this, but I mean, just you can

1113
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 3: go down the list. Niemon Gracie taken on Dante Shiro,

1114
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 3: Lorenz Larkin against Mukhamed Berkhamov. By the way, Larkin is

1115
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 3: not even favored to win. That he was a huge

1116
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: free agent signing. You thought he was destined for big things.

1117
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: The Beltor chapter did not go. Be careful what you

1118
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,320
Speaker 3: wish for man didn't go quite as expected. Henry Corrals

1119
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: is on his card BC. We talked about it previously.

1120
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: Ali Isaiyev, the former Olympian who was undefeated, is undefeated

1121
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 3: when undefeated in PFL. He fights Steve Mallory on this card.

1122
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 3: Chris Gonzales versus Max Roschkopf is on this card. It

1123
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 3: goes on. Darien Caldwell is on this card. Yeah, there's

1124
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 3: a lot of big names in the belt Or family

1125
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: in this card, certainly one not to miss. All right,

1126
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 3: we see, let's talk about topic number two now, this one.

1127
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm you know, I guess we could say

1128
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 3: what we can say about it. UFC Vegas sixty eight.

1129
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: By the way, main card starts at one am East

1130
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: Coast time.

1131
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: So's at the stage here of why it was supposed

1132
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 4: to be a Korean zombie headlined fight card in South Korea.

1133
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 1: That's correct, right, yes, and then it inevitably ended up

1134
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: where they couldn't make that happen or didn't want to

1135
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 1: because of Zombie not being ready, and so they put

1136
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: it back in the apex.

1137
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,800
Speaker 3: They're flying all the Korean guys here. They're just putting

1138
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 3: it on at a time that is facilitating I think,

1139
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 3: Korean viewership. And so the time is with the time is,

1140
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 3: which is fine in the age of streaming, like complaining

1141
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: about this kind of thing, especially like since everything that

1142
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: airs on ESPN Plus ultimately becomes on demand, or it

1143
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: usually does anyway, and then eventually on a fight pass,

1144
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 3: it's hard to complain too much. So if you don't

1145
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 3: catch it live, just catch it the next day like

1146
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 3: I will. But BC UFC Vegas sixty eight again in

1147
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: your main event, Derek Lewis at plus one ninety five

1148
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 3: taking on Sergei Spivak at minus two thirty BC. Is

1149
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 3: this the end of the Derek Lewis is a top

1150
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 3: contender run? Does it end here on Saturday?

1151
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 4: So here's the deal here. He's been knocked out in

1152
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 4: three of his last four fights and they haven't been great, right.

1153
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,080
Speaker 4: It was an outright implosion of sorts and he kind

1154
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: of emitted it afterwards against Cyril Gohn at Home for

1155
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: the interim title, comes back and knocks out Chris Daukas,

1156
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: but then you know, gets into a war and fades

1157
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: against Tuivasa and then that fifty five second loss to

1158
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:15,839
Speaker 4: Sergey Pavlovitch Is. It was weird, but it was also

1159
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: just one way and destructive. Even if you can kind

1160
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: of dispute certain elements, maybe the stoppage or whatever, this

1161
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,120
Speaker 4: would be the moment that we're gonna go, Okay, we've

1162
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: done this too many times. What does Derek Lewis have left?

1163
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 4: He's thirty seven, This is the moment to count him out.

1164
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 4: But Luke, he does and has had that ability to

1165
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 4: turn around his fate very quickly at times, whether it's

1166
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 4: recovering from a back injury that slowed him down and

1167
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 4: made him look super old and then oh he's back,

1168
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 4: or the times he's taken things very seriously and got

1169
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 4: himself back into shape. Did you see the picture and

1170
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 4: I only saw it right as we were starting the

1171
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,799
Speaker 4: show on Instagram of what he looks like compared to

1172
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 4: his last few fights. Somebody made a joke that he was,

1173
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 4: you know, beginning his cut down to light heavyweight. Luke,

1174
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 4: he has. Derek Lewis has appeared to have gotten in

1175
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 4: the type of shape heading into this fight. That speaks

1176
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:07,239
Speaker 4: to what's at stake here that another loss in a

1177
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 4: main event, particularly a destructive one by knockout, wouldn't be,

1178
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 4: you know, necessarily the end of his career, but would

1179
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 4: be the end of Derek Lewis's favored son all time

1180
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: knockout threat. Put him in any main event, anytime against

1181
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,879
Speaker 4: anyone that's gonna go with a loss at the very

1182
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 4: least here, it seems he has given himself the best

1183
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 4: chance to succeed. And I will argue with this. When

1184
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 4: Derek Lewis is focused, it's it is a different beast.

1185
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 4: And you know, I wanted to enter this fight breakdown

1186
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 4: going dude, I've seen him much enough to know I've

1187
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 4: seen too much. But when you have that level of

1188
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: power and sneaky athleticism and the intention to just go

1189
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: in there and bang, it is really hard to ever

1190
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 4: count this guy out. So, once again, considering the shape

1191
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 4: he's in, I like him. I like him with underdog here, Luke,

1192
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 4: I like him with with some plus money here. You know,

1193
00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 4: am I fooled by his waistline to a certain degree, Yes,

1194
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 4: But we know what Derek Lewis looks like when he's laboring,

1195
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: and he didn't take training camp seriously. And maybe he's

1196
00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 4: had injuries and that's you know, the back injuries just

1197
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: changed who he is completely. If he's healthy and motivated

1198
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: and boys should he be dude, even though Spevak is

1199
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 4: dangerous and he's beaten those mid level guys that you

1200
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: have to beat to make a run at contention, I

1201
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 4: don't know, Luke, black beast is winning me over here?

1202
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 4: Did did you see the picks I'm talking about? Did they?

1203
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 4: Did they you know, were they doctored? Did they? Did

1204
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 4: they make you feel something?

1205
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I saw those picks. I didn't. I

1206
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 1: don't think I saw them, So I.

1207
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: Don't really Let me find it and send it to you, Luke.

1208
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 4: I mean, this is great TV here. We're just going

1209
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: to do this live.

1210
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 3: Send it, send it to uh Mikey, you can put

1211
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 3: it on the screen. You can just add right all right.

1212
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: Tell me your expectations, Sara, as I find this, thank

1213
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 4: you very much.

1214
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: I will tell you.

1215
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to figure out if Lewis is done

1216
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 3: because Sergay Spivak has definitely majorly improved. Sergay Spivak is

1217
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 3: definitely on a decent run in his career as well,

1218
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 3: good run, I would say, and is deserving of being

1219
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,440
Speaker 3: taken seriously. However, and to your point about Lewis, like

1220
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 3: everything about he's, what he's been on has been a

1221
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: bit of a disaster. But the names he's lost to,

1222
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 3: you know, they are better in good names. He lost

1223
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 3: to Sergey Pavlovitch, who it turns out now to be

1224
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 3: quite the threat, ty toy Vasa and Cyril Gone right

1225
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: as you indicated, Like he has the Chris Dalkas win

1226
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 3: in between them, you know, and Doalcas was just a

1227
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 3: little bit more hittable than those guys and not you know,

1228
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: not able to play that game as easily as someone

1229
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: like Gone or toy Vasa or Pavlovitch. So like he's

1230
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 3: lost to some heavy hitters or some clever hitters along

1231
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 3: the way. Is Seragey Spivak that guy? No, not really,

1232
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 3: Although he's got good takedowns, and he's got good trips

1233
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: on the clinch, and he's got all kinds of fun

1234
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:43,440
Speaker 3: stuff he can do.

1235
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: He's got good grappling. Would he be able to use that? Like,

1236
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 1: here's the thing, this is the kind of guy that the.

1237
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis of old would be able to beat without

1238
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: too much issue. Maybe he loses around maybe some moments,

1239
00:54:57,400 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 3: but he eventually would find the mark. I just we

1240
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 3: don't know if that guy is still there. He comes

1241
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: into this contest and maybe you said this, maybe didn't.

1242
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 3: It's not that old thirty seven, but he feels that

1243
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: there's some miles on him right where. He's also nearing

1244
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: forty professional contests at this point, so you know, he's

1245
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: starting to get a little tread on the tires. My

1246
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 3: expectation is to figure out is Sergey's Spivak actually a

1247
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 3: good heavyweight contender, or is Lewis now on the decline,

1248
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 3: the true like unmitigated decline. I think this fight's gonna

1249
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 3: tell us the answer to that.

1250
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: My hunch is that my hunches that Spivak might win,

1251
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: but I really don't say that confidently.

1252
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 4: Okay, but here's the deal, Luke, here's the deal. When

1253
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 4: he loses, When Derek Lewis loses, it's almost always a

1254
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 4: little bit weird, meaning he has a great chin. There's

1255
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: certain elements of his game that are so sneaky that

1256
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 4: it's allowed him to be an elite heavyweight fighter, you know,

1257
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 4: a title contender without without having the most traditional game

1258
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 4: or traditional work ethic or anything. I mean, on the ground, Luke,

1259
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 4: you can maybe take him down sometimes easily, but dude,

1260
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 4: he can reverse situations. He's so strong a shit. He

1261
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: can get up. There's certain levels of his game that

1262
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: are sneaky, but when he's not where he needs to

1263
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 4: be mentally and physically, he implodes. He gasses out, you know,

1264
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 4: strikes compile quickly, and then he's just done. And and

1265
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 4: I can't echo that enough. In that serial gunfight, he

1266
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 4: kind of admitted afterwards that the pressure of being in

1267
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 4: you know, in his hometown and getting everybody tickets and

1268
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 4: you know, everything that comes with that, dude, he kind

1269
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 4: of just folded under that. Now Gone is also obviously

1270
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 4: as precise a striker as you can get and put

1271
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 4: it on him. But like, dude, if he's able to

1272
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 4: stand and fight, dangerous as shit. So look at that picture, Luke.

1273
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 4: Check your text. I know, Mike, he's working it up now.

1274
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: I think whenever I mess with my phone, it's messing

1275
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 1: with my my ear things.

1276
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna leave it alone. I need to see

1277
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 3: my can. It's a mess for me, it's a mess.

1278
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 3: Let's see here Okay, Wow, he's noticeably thinner.

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Speaker 4: So the picture on the left, he would he just

1280
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 4: barely made the two sixty five limit. The picture on

1281
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 4: the right is presumably this is the Haymaker's Instagram account

1282
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 4: account that posted it, though the one on the right

1283
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 4: is presumably where he's at right now heading into this week. Luke,

1284
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,479
Speaker 4: that's a different beast right there.

1285
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: Listen, I'll say to your point about motivation, I think

1286
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 3: you're one hundred percent right. Yeah, you can see how

1287
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: much trimmer he is if he's mentally in a great

1288
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 3: place and he's done the homework. And I want to

1289
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: make this clear too, this back isn't messing with him.

1290
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: Like even if the back isn't super messed up, but

1291
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 3: it's causing him pain. That's distracting. That's going to affect mood.

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Speaker 3: That's going to affect training intensity. It's going to affect

1293
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,040
Speaker 3: training volume, it's going to affect will power, It's going

1294
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 3: to affect a lot Like if those things aren't in order,

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00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 3: Derek Lewis should win.

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Speaker 1: I think he should win.

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Speaker 3: I think he's got enough smarts and craft and experience

1298
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 3: and obviously all the other parts about power and everything

1299
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 3: else to be a very formidable challenge.

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00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: But SPITVACBC. He again, dude, BC, don't you agree with me?

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00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 3: If this was like three years ago, two and a

1302
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 3: half years ago something like that, I'd picked Derek Lewis,

1303
00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: no problem, yes, but it's it's it's Spivak's relative rise

1304
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: with Lewis's relative decline making that a much more difficult

1305
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 3: well for sure.

1306
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 4: And I'm not trying to shit on Spivak here. He's

1307
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 4: twenty eight, he's you know, kind of entering his true

1308
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 4: heavyweight prime, and he's coming off of stoppage wins, you know,

1309
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 4: again against that Augusto Sokai level of competition who just

1310
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 4: happened to be the last guy he fought and stopped him,

1311
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 4: you know, and he beat Olenok and vander of He

1312
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 4: beat the guys that you have to beat to go okay.

1313
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 4: Are you part of that group or are you coming on?

1314
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 4: But I want to talk to you about the motivation

1315
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 4: of what drives Derek Luis because he's always been an

1316
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,040
Speaker 4: incredible character study for me, and you know, obviously a

1317
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 4: great interview and I've had some tremendous interviews with him

1318
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 4: through the years. You know, anyone can right, He's tremendous.

1319
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 4: But he will always tell you, even leading into the

1320
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 4: title fight against Derek Lewis, that I don't give a

1321
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 4: shit about all that other stuff, you know, the title

1322
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 4: the notaride, like this is only about feeding my family.

1323
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 4: And you know he's always hilarious with the where's round

1324
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 4: a rosy joke? You know at joke and my wife

1325
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 4: gets mad at that. But he's a family man. At

1326
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,479
Speaker 4: the end of the day, Luke, what does this fight

1327
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: offer to him as a threat if he loses an

1328
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 4: fs with his money significantly, Because if he loses this fight,

1329
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 4: he is no longer a main inventor not when you've

1330
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 4: been not when you've had losses in four of your

1331
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 4: last five, even if one of them was a title fight.

1332
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Speaker 4: So they're messing with his money here, they're messing with

1333
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,720
Speaker 4: his lifestyle, his family. That for a guy like him,

1334
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 4: who's putting his cards on the table and telling you

1335
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 4: what he actually cares about, that's the ultimate motivator, right.

1336
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,280
Speaker 4: It's sort of like when you're you know, when you're

1337
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: lazy in a relationship and your girl friendly goes Okay,

1338
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 4: you got to turn this around, or I'm gonna go

1339
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 4: start sleeping with that guy down the road, like right,

1340
00:59:51,640 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 4: like you know what I mean. That's that's when it's okay,

1341
00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 4: you know, or when the doctors or when the doctor

1342
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,680
Speaker 4: says your liver is black, that's when you gotta stop

1343
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 4: eating fast food at the gas station. Okay, you know

1344
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. They're messing with your livelihood, Luke. I'm

1345
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 4: just saying, don't overlook that. Okay, don't overlook that. I

1346
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 4: think that's a fair point. Look proper motivation.

1347
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 3: And the last thing I'd say is both guys are

1348
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 3: telling themselves a story ahead of this fight, as every

1349
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: fighter does, about who they are, Right, Who am I?

1350
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 3: Sarah Gai Spinbeck is probably saying, I'm the kind of

1351
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 3: guy that can beat the Derek Lewis's of the world

1352
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 3: to get to my ultimate goal, which is the title.

1353
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,120
Speaker 1: But I can beat this level of guy.

1354
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: And I bet someone like Derek Lewis is saying I

1355
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: have beaten guys like this before, which is probably true,

1356
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 3: and guys at this level certainly right, certainly you could

1357
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,040
Speaker 3: say that, And.

1358
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: I am the guy who I think I am. I am.

1359
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: I can put out someone with a big punch, I

1360
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 3: can get in shape, but I can do this the

1361
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: right way, But only one of those stories is fully true,

1362
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: and I guess we're gonna find out which one that's

1363
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 3: really the value there B see on the rest of

1364
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 3: this card. I mean, I don't know how much you

1365
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:53,120
Speaker 3: really care the Duho Choi Kyle Nelson fight. Duho Choi

1366
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 3: is a minus one ninety to Kyle Nelson's plus one sixty.

1367
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 3: I suppose this is a good return fight for Troy,

1368
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 3: given the layoff and everything else.

1369
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,480
Speaker 1: Do you have? What do you make of this contest?

1370
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: How much do I know you care about the return

1371
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 3: of the Korean Superboy, But like in this particular context,

1372
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 3: in this contest.

1373
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean, this context, in this opponent, you know, doesn't

1374
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 4: offer much more than the story, which is Superboy making

1375
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 4: a big comeback here after a long time off. But

1376
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: I did read Luca as I mentioned on Monday show

1377
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: that he did try to make a twenty twenty one

1378
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 4: comeback but then got injured. I also saw in Wikipedia

1379
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 4: that he got divorced in twenty twenty one. Luke, I

1380
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,320
Speaker 4: didn't fact check that though you think there's any comparison,

1381
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 4: you think there's any relevance.

1382
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,000
Speaker 3: There, Yeah, I mean that if he got divorced. A

1383
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 3: he needs money, and B it probably wasn't fun.

1384
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 4: Probably so that led him to go, Okay, we're doing

1385
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 4: this fight thing again. I mean, I wish him well.

1386
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 4: He makes fun fights. I've always loved his his you know,

1387
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 4: smiley personality and then can just turn it into killer

1388
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 4: mode when he steps in there. It always kind of

1389
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 4: reminded me of a Gnahi glove Can who came on

1390
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 4: so fresh faced in boxing, you know, and dude, this

1391
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 4: guy can bang. I don't know again what to physically

1392
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 4: expect from him, given the layoffs and the damage he took.

1393
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 4: But if you go through damaging fights like he did

1394
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 4: three in a row and they all have to be lost,

1395
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: is taking sometimes multiple years off can sort of cleanse

1396
01:02:14,560 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 4: the palate and clear you if you still feel like

1397
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 4: you've got something left in the tank. So you know,

1398
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm just gonna watch it play out, Luke.

1399
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna give you. I'm not gonna put you

1400
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 4: know you Okay, bet, yeah, we'll do that on Friday.

1401
01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 4: But I'm not touching this fight, Luke. I just want

1402
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 4: to see my guy go out there and see what

1403
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 4: he can do again.

1404
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 3: Uh B See, I have to I have to double

1405
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 3: check this, but I believe this is right. I believe

1406
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 3: you're an opener of the car Tetsuo Tatsuro. Excuse me,

1407
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 3: Tyra taking on Jesus Aguilar Aguilar plus seven to fifty

1408
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 3: Tyra at a minus eleven fifty I could. I need

1409
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 3: to double check this, but I believe they have the

1410
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,200
Speaker 3: same manager, which if they do, it's like, why would

1411
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: a guy it's plus seven to fifty take this contest?

1412
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: If they if you don't have to, that's a weird

1413
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 3: one to me.

1414
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me go back and rewatch mmai's latest three

1415
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 4: part series on Manager Mma Luke and I may have

1416
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 4: a better understanding of that because that's eye opening. Did

1417
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 4: you watch that yet? I know I give that guy

1418
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 4: a lot of love in this space because he's educating

1419
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 4: me on like a john S Nash level, and you know,

1420
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 4: and I'm and I'm just my mind is blown that

1421
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: all these pieces are connecting. But did you actually watch

1422
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 4: that guy's art.

1423
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: I've watched some of it, but not all of it.

1424
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, they're managed, but they're managed by

1425
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: both by Iridium. I don't know why Iridium would agree

1426
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 3: to this. Candidly, maybe there's something else I.

1427
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 1: Don't quite get.

1428
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 4: Doesn't I have the most amount of fighters under UFC

1429
01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 4: contract by far?

1430
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that.

1431
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 3: That's what's been reported, but I've not seen the double checked,

1432
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 3: so I want to be clear that I'm not sure.

1433
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

1434
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 4: That is interesting. Like you said, minus one thousand guys.

1435
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 1: Who guys who have the same manager will fight each other.

1436
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: But if you're the manager, why would you put one

1437
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 3: of your guys against another one of your guys when

1438
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 3: one of them ends up being this much, uh like overmatched?

1439
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 4: I don't quite Maybe one guy needed the money and

1440
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 4: he wants all the smoke luke. Maybe that's the thing.

1441
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it is hard to break down

1442
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 4: these fights are Look, I don't want to sound ignorant

1443
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 4: even trying to pronounce some of these names, but are

1444
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: these all? Are most of these guys making UFC debuts

1445
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 4: or have they already and they just happened to say, hey,

1446
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 4: so some.

1447
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 3: Of them are going to be A lot actually I

1448
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 3: should say this, A lot of them are going to

1449
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 3: be from the Road to UFC series, So that series

1450
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 3: that they did over in Asia trying to pull in

1451
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 3: and some of these are Korean names, but some are

1452
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 3: Japanese names and some other ones as well. It's a

1453
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 3: lot of them featuring that talent shuffling them through to

1454
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 3: make their UFC debut. Again, this is really an event

1455
01:04:28,840 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 3: where you've got a couple of fights that North American

1456
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 3: fight fans would care about sprinkled in, including the main event.

1457
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 3: But this is really an event facing for Korea or

1458
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 3: the Asian market.

1459
01:04:38,680 --> 01:04:41,040
Speaker 4: So if you're on the East Coast and it's it's

1460
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,520
Speaker 4: you know, you got prostate issues and it's three am,

1461
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,160
Speaker 4: and you might be lonely, turn it on, right.

1462
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's fire through this because we've got

1463
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of show left, so let's love.

1464
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 4: But I look, I love doing this show so.

1465
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: Much that.

1466
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like blabbering just to blab I don't

1467
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 3: think the audience does either. All right, Topic number three BC,

1468
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 3: we have a fight.

1469
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: Now. Here is the good news. It's April's gonna be busy.

1470
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: Here's the bad news.

1471
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 3: This might be the same day as Tank Davis taking

1472
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: on Ryan Garcia. I guess we'll have to see, but

1473
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 3: it stands right now the UFC Fight Night on April fifteenth.

1474
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 3: I believe this will be at the APEX, but let

1475
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 3: me double check. Max Holloway returns not at one fifty five,

1476
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 3: he's staying at one forty five, and he's taking on

1477
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 3: Arnold Allen easily the biggest fight of Arnold Allen's career,

1478
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:32,200
Speaker 3: massive stakes for also Max Holloway BC. Was this the

1479
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 3: right fight to make for either guy and for the division?

1480
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 4: All? Yes to all three, But there are conditions and

1481
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 4: elements to this. I'll explain. For Arnold Allen, he is

1482
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,560
Speaker 4: in that spot where he's put together such an impressive

1483
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 4: win streak but hasn't been able to make that leap

1484
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 4: and parachute in and get an actual title shot. Well,

1485
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 4: this is the next best thing, right. We always say

1486
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 4: for a fighter that's in that BMF category, do you

1487
01:05:57,960 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 4: either want the title shot or you want Connor McGregor,

1488
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:01,760
Speaker 4: meaning you want the money, or do you want the glory?

1489
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 4: Short of getting the glory, this is the opportunity he

1490
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 4: goes out there and beats a former champion and a legend,

1491
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 4: a living legend like Max Holloway, that that's as good

1492
01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 4: as gold and he'll probably be next in line for

1493
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 4: that goal. So for Arnold Allen, this is a victory

1494
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 4: for the UFC in terms of the rankings, in terms

1495
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: of a big fight, in terms of drawing interest, victory

1496
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: for Max Holloway, though, Luke, look the way he lost

1497
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 4: that third fight to Volkanowski. We've not used to seeing

1498
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,600
Speaker 4: him bloodied and battered. I mean even a weight division

1499
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 4: off against Dustin Pourier in Atlanta to thirty six, you know,

1500
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 4: fighting uphill against a more powerful guy. Max was in

1501
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 4: that fight and competitive. He was not competitive against Volkanowski.

1502
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 4: So given his age, which is young in his early thirties,

1503
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,440
Speaker 4: but given the mileage, there was a legitimate question of

1504
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 4: is he gonna walk away for good? Is he gonna

1505
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 4: take off a long period of time, Is he gonna

1506
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 4: move up a weight class? Is he gonna now seek

1507
01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,600
Speaker 4: out celebrity cross you know, pay per view type of

1508
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 4: action fights. What the hell are you gonna do to

1509
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 4: Max his credit or you know, I don't know if

1510
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 4: we'll call it credit if this goes disastrous, But he

1511
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 4: wants to see where he still stands in this division.

1512
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 4: So I got a lot of respect for him, saying, look,

1513
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 4: was that one bad night, one bad matchup? Does Volkanowski

1514
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 4: just have his number? Overall? I mean the way he

1515
01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 4: lost was damning. Considering Holloway's history, he has a lot

1516
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 4: of questions to answer here. But this is who Max

1517
01:07:23,720 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 4: Holloway is. This is what he does. I used to

1518
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 4: have behind me that great poster from two twenty three

1519
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 4: where he was gonna fight Abib Normalga Metof on No

1520
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 4: day's notice. I mean, this is who this guy is.

1521
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 4: A little nervous a little bit, but Luke, would you

1522
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 4: say he deserves the right to take this and for

1523
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 4: have us to just swallow our pride and just watch

1524
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 4: and see what happens. Because I've conded Max out before

1525
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,440
Speaker 4: that Bisping interview on Fox when he got pulled from

1526
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,120
Speaker 4: the fight and I was like, look, he may never

1527
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,560
Speaker 4: be the same. And what did he do next? He

1528
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 4: came out and defended his title against Frank Edgar and

1529
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 4: looked like a million bucks again. So you know, I

1530
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 4: don't know how many lives the fighting life Max Holloway has,

1531
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 4: but this is a great fight. We're going to learn

1532
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 4: so much from it. It has the potential to be

1533
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 4: action packed. I mean, it feels like a pay per

1534
01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 4: view fight on potentially here regular television, Luke, and I'm

1535
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 4: ready for this.

1536
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, location TBD.

1537
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: By the way, I thought it was official announced that

1538
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,759
Speaker 3: the APEX not yet, although I guess we'll have to see.

1539
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,760
Speaker 3: But Tabisi's point, I don't know what would be bad

1540
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 3: about this. Honestly, you should be happy that Max Max

1541
01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 3: Holloway is doing what he's doing. If this were boxing

1542
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 3: and Max Hallowe he had suffered some kind of loss

1543
01:08:27,560 --> 01:08:29,480
Speaker 3: akin to what it would mean to lose to Volkanowski,

1544
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,439
Speaker 3: he wouldn't be fighting a guy as tough as Arnold

1545
01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 3: Allen right away. I can assure you that he'd be

1546
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 3: taking a much softer touch before doing that.

1547
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 1: But it's not what he's doing here.

1548
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 3: Arnold Allen is one of the toughest fights he could

1549
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 3: have taken, no doubt about it. A guy who is

1550
01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 3: absolutely ready to take the next step in his career,

1551
01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,240
Speaker 3: if ever there was one. Tried to do it against

1552
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:48,680
Speaker 3: Calvin Cator, didn't quite get it going. But before that

1553
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 3: against Adek Yusaf, before that, certainly Dan Hooker, he blew

1554
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 3: right through him in his brief return to one forty five.

1555
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 3: I mean he is just bursting at the seams, a

1556
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,679
Speaker 3: very slow build, right. You know, He's been the pot

1557
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:05,520
Speaker 3: of water that you've tried to watch boil.

1558
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: Right, You've just been waiting for and waiting for, waiting

1559
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: for it.

1560
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: But then finally we've taken a step back and everything

1561
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 3: seems to kind of be coming together. Well, listen, if

1562
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:16,040
Speaker 3: you're Arnold Allen, there is basically other than the champ himself,

1563
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,280
Speaker 3: there isn't a better name on this UFC roster in

1564
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 3: that division anyway to get the Max Holloway. If you

1565
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 3: can't get the champions name and scalp on your resume,

1566
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 3: Max Holloway's is by far the next best thing. He

1567
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 3: has still proven to be just the really, you know,

1568
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 3: in some ways the gold standard or you know, something

1569
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 3: pretty close with now the Volkanovsky's there. I love the stakes.

1570
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: I think they're enormous for Arnold Allen. I think they're

1571
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,719
Speaker 3: enormous for Max. Both guys very well rounded, both guys

1572
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 3: very cerebral. Both guys understand what it's like to prepare

1573
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 3: and get ready and defeat elite competition. I mean, I

1574
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 3: just don't know what could be the problem with this

1575
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: fight other than you hate to see one of these

1576
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,200
Speaker 3: two guys lose, right, You just don't want to see that?

1577
01:09:59,640 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 4: Sure?

1578
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:00,599
Speaker 1: What of that?

1579
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 4: What on Earth.

1580
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,120
Speaker 1: Could a fight fan not like about this? I genuinely

1581
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: do not know.

1582
01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,839
Speaker 4: Great match making. It's a twelve fight win streak overall

1583
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 4: for Arnold Allen. He's ten and oh since making his

1584
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,320
Speaker 4: UFC debut. It's time. It's time to find out here.

1585
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:17,400
Speaker 4: But Luke man, I love me. I love Max m

1586
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 4: the time he tweeted that me and he and he

1587
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 4: made the forty nine times joke. I mean, the guy

1588
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 4: gets it right, he gets it, Luke. But if I

1589
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,560
Speaker 4: told you I could see the future and this goes disastrously,

1590
01:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,800
Speaker 4: will we end up looking back at the year fight

1591
01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 4: which he won as a potential harbinger of doom because

1592
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 4: we saw how much damage he took early in that

1593
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 4: fight against yi Era and now he held it together.

1594
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: That was a great fight. But could that be the

1595
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 4: night he got old? If it goes that way, I

1596
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 4: don't even want to imagine that, Luke. Let's just get

1597
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 4: ready for a great fight.

1598
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I just don't like the thing is,

1599
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 1: first of all, he won that fight, you know.

1600
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 4: Me.

1601
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 3: For me, I look at fights where I get worried

1602
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 3: about the damage they took, usually in losing scenarios, although

1603
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: not always right Robbie Lawler and Carlos Condit. I know

1604
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 3: it's as good to you as the case with Rory,

1605
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 3: But in both of those cases, Lawler didn't come out

1606
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: the same from either of them, right, So it's not

1607
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 3: that just that you lose. But but I didn't feel

1608
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 3: like he took a sustained beating in that way. He

1609
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 3: took a lot of accumulative damage and big shots, but

1610
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: there wasn't like a round where it just wouldn't stop

1611
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 3: raining on him. H So for that reason, I don't

1612
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 3: look as at that fight, not as not a contributor

1613
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 3: to long term damage.

1614
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:30,679
Speaker 1: Of course it was, but.

1615
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 3: Not as turning point in that way. So I guess

1616
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,000
Speaker 3: we'll have to see, we have to see, but I

1617
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 3: don't quite see it that way to me. I actually

1618
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 3: was a little bit more concerned after the second Dustin

1619
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 3: Party a fight. I was like, dude, that was a

1620
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 3: I mean, an absurd amount of damage. But he came

1621
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,280
Speaker 3: out of that one looking pretty good too.

1622
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 4: So good gracious, that chin is bodacious. You might say, Luke,

1623
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 4: when oh.

1624
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 3: I know what you did, I know what you did.

1625
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 4: When you can say I mean look Max, I mean

1626
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 4: Max has been fighting since he first got armpit hair. Professionally,

1627
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,719
Speaker 4: I mean, this guy's got their what like thirty fights

1628
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 4: going back to like, you know, high school graduation. I mean,

1629
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 4: you can only take so much. But you know, we

1630
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 4: haven't seen it. He goes the distance against all these guys,

1631
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 4: even in brutal fights. I mean, it's just incredible. The will,

1632
01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,439
Speaker 4: it's the will Luke he is, and he has one

1633
01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 4: of the best drives and wills of any fighter we

1634
01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:20,760
Speaker 4: have ever seen.

1635
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 3: I think I'll say this though, we shouldn't just talk

1636
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 3: about how awesome it is. We should talk about like

1637
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 3: what happened to Max in the third fight with Volkanovsky.

1638
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 3: Like I have been very complimentary about Max's team and

1639
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 3: I still remain so. I think that they're one of

1640
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 3: the best teams in the sport. They don't get their

1641
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 3: recognition they deserve. But of course that night was not

1642
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:42,759
Speaker 3: a great example of that. Uh you know, listen, they

1643
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 3: didn't have an answer for Volkanovski. We should say that

1644
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 3: they didn't have an answer for him. They got basically

1645
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: outsmarted as a team. As a collective team, they got

1646
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,320
Speaker 3: out smart. And I think what I want to see

1647
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,880
Speaker 3: from Max and his team because I think they're up

1648
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 3: to the challenge. These are the kinds of guys who

1649
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 3: are good enough to use this opportunity to make themselves better,

1650
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 3: but they should probably reflect on the fact that they

1651
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:07,559
Speaker 3: got overall just beat team to team, game plan to

1652
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,880
Speaker 3: game plan, you know, in terms of like physical ability

1653
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 3: together different athletes, but the physical ability and the talent

1654
01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 3: of Max in Volcan it's not far apart. But in

1655
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,840
Speaker 3: terms of ideas around the fight game, complexity of game

1656
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 3: plan execution of it, understanding who's a little bit ahead

1657
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 3: in terms of thinking about what wins fights and what doesn't.

1658
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 3: They got lapped a little bit here, and I want

1659
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,719
Speaker 3: to see if they cannot just bring back the old Max.

1660
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: That's one thing.

1661
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 3: If you really want Max to reclaim that belt, he's

1662
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 3: gonna have to be better than he was, quite candidly,

1663
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 3: so big sticks for him and his team in that

1664
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 3: sense as well. I think, all right, you see topic

1665
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 3: number four, let's talk about some good news. Laura Sanko

1666
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,679
Speaker 3: is set for her commentary debut. She will officially become

1667
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,719
Speaker 3: only the second ever commentator female commentator in UFC history.

1668
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 3: But the other one is just Kathy Long who did

1669
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:58,759
Speaker 3: it at UFC one. So basically She's like the real first,

1670
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 3: certainly in the mind or an era of what we

1671
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 3: know to be Mma Sanko, and a press release said quote,

1672
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 3: taking the next step to join the UFC commentary team

1673
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,720
Speaker 3: has been a goal of mine since I begin my

1674
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 3: broadcast career. It's an honor to walk in the footprint

1675
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,000
Speaker 3: of Kathy Long, thirty years after her appearance at UFC one.

1676
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 3: She considers it a true privilege to be a part

1677
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 3: of the team that is the voice of their credible

1678
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 3: fans and blah blah blah blah blah.

1679
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: BC.

1680
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 3: We've got a couple of her clips talking about this

1681
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 3: all with us rooms diaries because you want to throw

1682
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 3: to it.

1683
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:27,439
Speaker 4: Before you throw to I just want to mention obviously

1684
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,240
Speaker 4: she's been doing great work on the Dana Why Contender series,

1685
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 4: and you know much was made when she joined that

1686
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 4: team as a as a full time color commentator, but

1687
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 4: those are not official UFC fights. So this technically is

1688
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,600
Speaker 4: the first, you know, since Kathy Long. And you know,

1689
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't be happier for Luke because you know, we

1690
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 4: talked to our room service diaries. I mean, man, she

1691
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:49,160
Speaker 4: earned this, and she's great at her job, and you know,

1692
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 4: my only lament here is that they picked the one

1693
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 4: am you know, Eastern start time card to give her

1694
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:59,639
Speaker 4: the opportunity, But that means nothing, notwithstanding, this is her chance,

1695
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,120
Speaker 4: and and I know she's going to hit it out

1696
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 4: of the park, and you know, it's like, you know,

1697
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 4: she's yeah, go ahead, take it from there, take the wheel.

1698
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say the one thing about Senko

1699
01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:10,800
Speaker 3: that I just you know, I don't know when folks.

1700
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 1: First got hip to her.

1701
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,320
Speaker 3: I can tell you a few years ago when I

1702
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 3: was doing my radio show for one reason or another,

1703
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 3: we had her on. I can't remember exactly how I

1704
01:15:20,320 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 3: came to know of her commentary or just her overall assessment,

1705
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 3: and I think we had her on or something like that.

1706
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 3: I was just blown away at like the level of

1707
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 3: detail she was giving on the fights.

1708
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,760
Speaker 1: I was like, huh. So then we would have her.

1709
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 3: On subsequent times and they were always that good, and

1710
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, well there's something here.

1711
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: You know, this is the reality? Is this? Like remember

1712
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: how the UFC first began to use her like backstage

1713
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 1: reporter or you know, doing the post fight interviews for

1714
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: Contender series, sometimes doing the announcing of the fights themselves.

1715
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: You know, they had her in a very good role that,

1716
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:54,400
Speaker 1: by the way, that's difficult to do. It's very, very

1717
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: difficult to do that. But that's just not the same thing.

1718
01:15:57,120 --> 01:16:00,639
Speaker 3: It's actually offering informed opinion and commentary on the broadcast.

1719
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,800
Speaker 3: It's a very different kind of thing. And they had

1720
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 3: kind of seen her. Listen, let's just want to be

1721
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 3: candid about it. She's a pretty face. They saw that.

1722
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 3: They were like, all right, you'd be good for this one.

1723
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 3: But you have to listen to what she was saying.

1724
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,160
Speaker 3: You have to listen to her talk, right, And when

1725
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 3: you listen to her talk and you actually hear her,

1726
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 3: it is very obvious you are talking, oh, I should say,

1727
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 3: listening to someone who is a subject matter expert or

1728
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 3: at least some version of that.

1729
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 1: Right.

1730
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,320
Speaker 3: We're all trying to be the best versions of that

1731
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,200
Speaker 3: we can be. But she clearly is very far down

1732
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 3: that path. And she had to change the producer's opinions

1733
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 3: that they had her slotted into one role and do

1734
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 3: it the other way.

1735
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: And she had to do that.

1736
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 3: With both her work ethic and her intellect, that is,

1737
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 3: and against working against how they had already seen her.

1738
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 3: And you know this in this business there's not a

1739
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 3: lot of TV jobs, and they kind of slot you

1740
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 3: into this role or that role, and once you're in,

1741
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 3: it is very difficult to convince those very same people

1742
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:54,680
Speaker 3: to put you in a very different one. She did it,

1743
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:57,719
Speaker 3: and she did it by virtue of strict hard work

1744
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: and job well done. That's not high purble at all.

1745
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:04,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, like it's it can also be

1746
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 4: hard Luke to be an ex fighter transitioning into an

1747
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 4: analyst role in the UFC if you don't have UFC

1748
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 4: fight experience. And we talked her at length, and we

1749
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,479
Speaker 4: had our room sort of diaries about the one fight

1750
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 4: she had and in Victa and then the decision she

1751
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,719
Speaker 4: made to move away from fighting and go to another direction.

1752
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 4: She started the family all that stuff. But even Jimmy

1753
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 4: Smith was kind of up against that, who had a

1754
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 4: handful of pro fights, but you know, wasn't able to

1755
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: keep his gig long term. I thought that that was

1756
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 4: a you know, I didn't like that that move by

1757
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 4: the UFC to let him go at that point. So

1758
01:17:33,080 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 4: I'll hill climb in many ways. And I've seen her

1759
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 4: on other shows mentioned and she mentioned it to us

1760
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 4: about you know, everybody behind the scenes hasn't always been

1761
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 4: as supportive of her and and helping her get there too.

1762
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 4: But she's fought the good fight. And you know, like

1763
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 4: I said, you want to talk about Smith that deserves it,

1764
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:48,800
Speaker 4: just listen to her on the call. You know, you

1765
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 4: don't think anything else. But but here's somebody who knows

1766
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 4: what they're doing. So what do we have to throw

1767
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 4: to here?

1768
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just gonna go to one of these.

1769
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 3: We have two clips here, one talking about Kathy Long,

1770
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna skip that one. We can talk about

1771
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 3: the one where she talks about goals and in fact

1772
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 3: wanting to do exactly what she just got slated to do,

1773
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 3: which is to call fight night cards. This is from

1774
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,360
Speaker 3: the Room Service Diaries interview that we have with her.

1775
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 1: Well, here, you're trying to get on USC pay per views.

1776
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 7: I mean that's the ultimate goal, but the immediate goal

1777
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 7: is to be on UFC Fight Nights.

1778
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah. I would like to do that very much, though, how.

1779
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: Realistic is that?

1780
01:18:23,640 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 5: Very?

1781
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: Oh? It is? Okay?

1782
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: Very Can you share to what extent you've gotten feedback

1783
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 3: from the folks who are in charge of production about

1784
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 3: how you've done with Contender series.

1785
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 5: I think they've been. I think they've been pleasantly surprised.

1786
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 1: Does this mean in twenty twenty three we'll see you

1787
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: doing fight nights.

1788
01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 7: I can't make any any declarative statements at the time,

1789
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 7: but I feel very I feel very optimistic about the.

1790
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 1: Over on that. Yeah, yeah, that'll be fun. Holy shit.

1791
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah wow? What would that mean to you? Is that fulfillments? Like?

1792
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: What is that exactly?

1793
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:58,799
Speaker 5: I think about that a lot. And it's a weird question.

1794
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 7: Did you ever watch that movie that the kids movie

1795
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 7: Soul oh.

1796
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 1: The Pixar Ye? Yes, yeah, Jamie Fox.

1797
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 7: That movie made me weep and it actually made my

1798
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:11,360
Speaker 7: he was probably six or six at the time.

1799
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 5: Even my son was crying like it's.

1800
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:14,639
Speaker 1: It's it's a beautiful movie.

1801
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 5: It's a beautiful movie.

1802
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 7: And it really made me think about like, I'm gonna

1803
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 7: getchoked up here if I if I get to this

1804
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 7: thing that I think is the apex that I think

1805
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 7: is like everything I want it to be.

1806
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:29,000
Speaker 5: Am I am I really going to feel that way

1807
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:29,800
Speaker 5: about it? You know what I mean?

1808
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:29,960
Speaker 2: Like?

1809
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 7: Or is it the moments like this, the journey in

1810
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 7: getting there that's really the thing that I love And

1811
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 7: that is the term.

1812
01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, impressively.

1813
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can. We can skip the other one. Mikey.

1814
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,640
Speaker 1: We don't have to hear that. That one in there

1815
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 1: is fine, but.

1816
01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 4: It's it's it's it's I love it. You know, we

1817
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 4: have we have our own levels of ambitions and our

1818
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 4: own broadcasting career. As Luke and I think anybody who's

1819
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 4: trying to prove to the world they belong and that

1820
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 4: they can do something you love. And you can hear

1821
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 4: that hunger and drive in her voice. And it's not

1822
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 4: easy chasing your dreams. There's there's there's so many stops

1823
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 4: and starts. There's so many curvy.

1824
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: Roads and BC true or false, no one cares if

1825
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: you achieve your dreams, like it is one hundred percent

1826
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: up to you. It is one hundred percent.

1827
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 4: Well, it's not only up to you, it's up to sometimes. Look,

1828
01:20:19,200 --> 01:20:23,759
Speaker 4: it's relationships, opportunity, timing, there are so many factors at play.

1829
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 4: But to see her again, to see her get to

1830
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 4: this point and climb this mountain, Uh, it's inspiring. It's

1831
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 4: encouraging all those things. And look, you know, you can

1832
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 4: look at that screen and see her Jeffrey Dahmer glasses

1833
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 4: and leather jacket and be like, Wow, she dresses cool,

1834
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 4: but how about me pulling off the white sweatpants and

1835
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 4: drug rug combo right there on Nationals.

1836
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,960
Speaker 3: I can't believe you were able to hide your boner

1837
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 3: the whole time. It was really well a job well

1838
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:44,799
Speaker 3: done by you with those white.

1839
01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:45,959
Speaker 4: PEPs, ok, they're so unnecesary.

1840
01:20:46,040 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: See. Also, I do want to say something.

1841
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:48,800
Speaker 3: I know some folks have been like, oh, look at

1842
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 3: UFC rolling this out after Dana White's slap things. So

1843
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:53,280
Speaker 3: she probably doesn't want me saying this, but I'm gonna

1844
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 3: say it anyway to defend her. She told us after

1845
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,640
Speaker 3: she told me after the filming of this that she

1846
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 3: already had this job for this card that was already

1847
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 3: they already knew. They were just waiting for a good

1848
01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 3: time to announce it.

1849
01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 4: Oh, I didn't even know that breaking news.

1850
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: Oh no, I didn't tell you that. Yeah.

1851
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,479
Speaker 3: She told me like, once this was over, we all

1852
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 3: kind of shot the shit in the production room, and

1853
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,160
Speaker 3: she told me like, it's already a done deal. I'm

1854
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: gonna do it, which is why she was so you know,

1855
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,600
Speaker 3: certain about her chances in twenty twenty three. So you

1856
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 3: know they are this was already planned. They were already

1857
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,720
Speaker 3: gonna do it, and it just so you know.

1858
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 4: With that, Luke, even with that, I'll tell you firsthand,

1859
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,639
Speaker 4: the best laid plans, somebody in a high position telling

1860
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 4: you it's gonna happen doesn't always happen.

1861
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: Luke.

1862
01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 4: You've seen it, lived it, you know has happened.

1863
01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:38,360
Speaker 3: So I got the phone call Luke, you congratulations, you

1864
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 3: win the tryal, We're gonna make a TV show with you.

1865
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 3: One week later, television channel is bought out by another owner.

1866
01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: Whole thing goes away, Like that has actually happened to me.

1867
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 3: So yeah, all right, BC. Last, but not least. I

1868
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 3: don't even know what to make of this, but logan

1869
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,880
Speaker 3: Paul has a hydration drink, not even really that it

1870
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 3: doesn't do a good job of hydrating you.

1871
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: It's called Prime.

1872
01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 3: He made it with fellow very highly successful YouTuber KSI.

1873
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 3: They have this drink in a lot of places. I

1874
01:22:04,160 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 3: think they're the official like hydration drink of Arsenal.

1875
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 1: One of the biggest.

1876
01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 4: KSI is a pro boxer. Can you put a little

1877
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 4: respect on his name? He's a misfits promoter. I mean,

1878
01:22:11,640 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 4: you know, you're like, I.

1879
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: Mean, okay, that's great.

1880
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 3: He's a successful YouTuber who has like use that to

1881
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 3: do other things. That's great, God bless him, make all

1882
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,719
Speaker 3: the money in the world. Anyway, they have officially announced

1883
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 3: a partnership multi year partnership with the UFC, which will

1884
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 3: result in many things, not limited to BC renaming the

1885
01:22:27,040 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 3: blue and Red corners as I think it's hydration zones.

1886
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 3: I have to look up the exact verbiage here in

1887
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 3: just a second. But BC, it's all really surprising.

1888
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: Why is UFC going into business with Logan Paul and

1889
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,960
Speaker 1: his drink? What is is it just any what's happening here?

1890
01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,120
Speaker 4: One hundred percent clout? Why is uh you know? Why

1891
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 4: is the Rocks project Rocks sneakers the official footwear of

1892
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 4: the Octagon, Like at the end of the day, Luke,

1893
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 4: I don't you know? I mean, look, marketing opportunities, reaching

1894
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 4: into different markets, that's what a business should be doing.

1895
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 4: So who are we to do this? But it's just

1896
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,040
Speaker 4: I don't know. In all the other headlines with UFC,

1897
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:06,719
Speaker 4: this was just weird because Logan's brother, I mean's separate

1898
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 4: from Logan's issue with with Crypto, which I'm told are

1899
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 4: like very serious. Uh you know, so partnering with him

1900
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 4: right now interesting, but like Logan's brother, Jake is the

1901
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 4: ultimate outspoken advocate right now against Dana White in the

1902
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:22,840
Speaker 4: UFC and the larger treatment of fighters. And again whether

1903
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:25,280
Speaker 4: that whether that Robin Hood's stance is more of a

1904
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 4: posture or not. He's like enemy number one to the

1905
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 4: idea of like, you don't treat your fighter as well,

1906
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 4: you don't share this and that. So your brother signs

1907
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 4: a deal that makes the UFC rich. But I don't.

1908
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 1: Fault he can't.

1909
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,160
Speaker 4: I get that, But it's it's just interesting because Jake

1910
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 4: just got hired by an in house competitor there in PFL,

1911
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 4: not in house, same ownership, only in house on ESPN.

1912
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 4: And I don't know if you saw that Don Davis

1913
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 4: interview with Ariel where he basically kind of went on

1914
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,760
Speaker 4: long rants about how like separate from Jake Paul having

1915
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 4: an MMA fight for us be getting in twenty twenty four,

1916
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 4: Like the reason why we signed him is his ability

1917
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 4: to bring attention to our brand and the other fighters

1918
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 4: and all that. And it's like, I know that that

1919
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 4: just because their brothers doesn't mean anything else, right, But

1920
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 4: it's just it's weird. Renaming the hydration corners Prime is weird,

1921
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 4: and I've.

1922
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 1: Seen prime hydration recovery zones.

1923
01:24:22,000 --> 01:24:23,679
Speaker 4: And if we you know, if they forced John Annick

1924
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 4: to say that a lot, you know, I mean, we

1925
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 4: have a Harley Davidson Prepoint and no one cares. I

1926
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 4: get it. It's it's corporate. But if it's another thing

1927
01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 4: that the fighters don't get to share the revenue in,

1928
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 4: then it obviously sucks the fighter. And on the top

1929
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 4: of that, Luke, did you see I saw like the

1930
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 4: fight Dietitian and you sent me some other videos. People

1931
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 4: that have reviewed this have actually been like, not only

1932
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 4: is this drink not good for hydration, it could actually

1933
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 4: hurt UFC fighters trying to cut weight using this. Now,

1934
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:50,639
Speaker 4: I don't know the facts of the.

1935
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:52,640
Speaker 3: Fight Dietitian was even because of the because of the

1936
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 3: relationship they have with the amount of potassium in it.

1937
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 3: What they were saying was like, to drink this post

1938
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 3: recovery would actually be a really bad idea.

1939
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,799
Speaker 1: I would actually not be smart. You would not recover

1940
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: well at all.

1941
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: In fact, you can make things even worse with the

1942
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 3: amount of potassium in it, if you guys don't know.

1943
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 3: Derek from More Plates, More Dates has done a review

1944
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:13,639
Speaker 3: of this, Millions of people have done reviews on hydration drink.

1945
01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,760
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a bad hydration drink, but it's

1946
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 3: not really good. It's not better than water, and it's

1947
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 3: not better than a lot of other salt, sodium based

1948
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,080
Speaker 3: or otherwise electrolyte formulas that you could get, and it's

1949
01:25:23,120 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 3: certainly not good for you after a really.

1950
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: Deleterious or otherwise big weight cut. So there's the.

1951
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,120
Speaker 3: Issues with like how functional and valuable it is, which

1952
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:33,760
Speaker 3: is not very Logan is dealing with this crypto fall,

1953
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 3: which I didn't know much about, and people have been

1954
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 3: trying to hit me too.

1955
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn more.

1956
01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 3: About it, but it doesn't look great, although I guess

1957
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 3: he's made recent amends to try and fix some of it.

1958
01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,519
Speaker 3: So I'll look into that a little bit more. But

1959
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 3: the point you raised I thought was the most interesting one.

1960
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 3: Like Jake and his brother, like.

1961
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: They can't control one another or whatever. But like everything Logan.

1962
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 3: Is doing, where he's doing a deal with the UFC

1963
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,560
Speaker 3: that the fighters don't get a cut of, is against

1964
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:57,360
Speaker 3: what Jake has said he stands for, which I will.

1965
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 3: I'll be interesting to see how those two navigate the

1966
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 3: strangeness of that relationship in between. I actually saw this

1967
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 3: tweet that I thought was really funny from the Gribacca

1968
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,840
Speaker 3: hitman pointing out something to BC which we kind of

1969
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,559
Speaker 3: always lose sight of. He writes, quote Sponsor list fighters

1970
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 3: will be sipping their Monster Energy water while in the

1971
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 3: prime hydration recovery zones on the octagon shaped cornerman stool.

1972
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 3: That's a real thing, brought to you by Toyo Tires

1973
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 3: waiting for the official DraftKings UFC Fight Clerk fight clock

1974
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 3: to start after they got their hands wrapped in the

1975
01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 3: custom Trojan Condoms hand wrap station. Yeah, and it's like

1976
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 3: how much of this, Like this whole this, this is

1977
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 3: where I go back to you on this one, BC,

1978
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 3: this whole idea of like we had to clean up

1979
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 3: the uniforms wy so you can dirty up everything else

1980
01:26:43,200 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 3: we have to watch on this brook.

1981
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:45,040
Speaker 1: We have to clean up.

1982
01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 4: We have to clean up the free advertising that the

1983
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 4: fighters are getting from their own sponsors so that we

1984
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:50,160
Speaker 4: can just.

1985
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 1: Dirt it up on our end. It's all it's all

1986
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: a money grab. It's all the money grab.

1987
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 4: Well it is, and again, no one's gonna you know, damn,

1988
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,719
Speaker 4: somebody corporately for making money. I mean major League baseball stadiums.

1989
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,120
Speaker 4: The outfield fences used to be clear. Remember when it

1990
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 4: was minor league baseball that only had like John's roofing.

1991
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 4: You know, now you know that's everywhere as well. I mean,

1992
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 4: that's what it is. NBA uniforms have one logo of

1993
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 4: a company right here to do it.

1994
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 3: Soccer jerseys. Soccer jerseys have them right in the center

1995
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 3: for crying out.

1996
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 4: So I get it, right, I get it, But I

1997
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 4: just think with everything else going on, it just was

1998
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:23,760
Speaker 4: weird and it just seems super corporate and just not

1999
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 4: in touch with anything. And it was one other point

2000
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 4: I wanted to make on there. Luke I forgot it,

2001
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:30,840
Speaker 4: but it was probably gonna be great, but connected to

2002
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,120
Speaker 4: this somewhat, Luke I just wanted to mention. Tonight is

2003
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,839
Speaker 4: the third episode of The Power Slab Show on TBS,

2004
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:37,720
Speaker 4: so we'll see what happens with the ratings if it's

2005
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,719
Speaker 4: picking up. I mean, we only told you our opinion

2006
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 4: on it. I don't care if you guys go out

2007
01:27:41,040 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 4: and watch it whatever. But there was one nugget that

2008
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 4: I don't know if irked me or peaked me. We know,

2009
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 4: that Pyotr Jan versus Morob devolish Veli, which is a

2010
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,720
Speaker 4: UFC Fight Night main event in March. I believe March

2011
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 4: eleventh is a great fight in the bandweight division. Can't wait. Yes,

2012
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 4: remember we talked about that is going to be not

2013
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 4: at the Apex but at Virgin Hotel, the former Hard

2014
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 4: Rock in Las Vegas, and we're like, oh, what's going on?

2015
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:05,599
Speaker 4: We know it's this that's the same night that the

2016
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,600
Speaker 4: Power Slap pay per view will go down. Apparently this

2017
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 4: TBS show, which you know, mirrors the success UFC had

2018
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 4: with the Ultimate Fighter House and all that, it's the

2019
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 4: same model, Luke, they're building toward a pay per view

2020
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 4: that's gonna be the same night. So Yon Devalishvili will

2021
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 4: have a six pm Eastern main card start on ESPN

2022
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 4: Plus presumably, and then after that at the Apex will

2023
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 4: be the first Power Slap pay per view. We're trying

2024
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 4: to say, well, this this isn't even UFC, So are

2025
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,679
Speaker 4: you guys wasting all your time on it? It's affecting UFC.

2026
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,680
Speaker 4: It's all connected right here, all right, it is?

2027
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 3: You know, Like, believe me, if they weren't using my

2028
01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 3: email address to send me power slap stuff. And if

2029
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 3: I didn't have to see power slap commercials on my

2030
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 3: phone because it's come up but populated by virtue of

2031
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 3: my proximity to MMA content or on actual broadcasts that

2032
01:28:58,560 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 3: I watch, I'd probably be a lot.

2033
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 1: Less caring about it.

2034
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,640
Speaker 3: But I can't get I have zero interest in it,

2035
01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 3: and I cannot get away from it just by watching MMA.

2036
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 3: It seems to me like something's offul little bit there.

2037
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 1: But okay, all right, BC.

2038
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 3: With that in mind, Top five is over one. Of course,

2039
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:16,920
Speaker 3: remind you guys to subscribe to Showtime. Showtime dot com

2040
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 3: is the label that pays to Today free trial like

2041
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 3: you can keep it. If not, you can bounce all

2042
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,559
Speaker 3: that good stuff. Check out, of course the fat or

2043
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 3: Resume review, check out the Brennan Ward Interview YouTube dot com,

2044
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 3: slash Luke Thomas or excuse Me YouTube dot com slash

2045
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,439
Speaker 3: Morning comed I apologize all that good stuff, but BC,

2046
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 3: we have to play a game now. Usually you're the

2047
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 3: guy dealing to me. On this one, I'm gonna return

2048
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 3: the favor. It's time for a round of over under

2049
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:43,640
Speaker 3: over under bomb on a bomb bomp bomb up. Do

2050
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 3: we not have any graphics?

2051
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: For it. Oh, BC is frozen. There it is.

2052
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 3: There's our graphic for it. All right, there's a graphic

2053
01:29:52,439 --> 01:29:54,559
Speaker 3: for it. BC is apparently frozen. Well, this won't work

2054
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:56,960
Speaker 3: if he's not here, so we'll have to We'll have

2055
01:29:57,000 --> 01:29:58,479
Speaker 3: to wait for him and see what happens.

2056
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:01,160
Speaker 1: He just left the check all right. Well, I guess

2057
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 1: we'll see how this goes.

2058
01:30:02,280 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 3: Everybody everybody, So I guess this means when he comes back,

2059
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:06,920
Speaker 3: it might push me to the right of the screen.

2060
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 3: All right, Well, we're gonna play this, I hope you know.

2061
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 3: Here's the problem, Like, let me just peel back the

2062
01:30:11,960 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 3: curtain while we wait for BC. He wants these shows

2063
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 3: to be as long as possible, and I don't. I

2064
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 3: want them to be about ninety minutes. And this is

2065
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: definitely gonna extend it. So I might shave a couple

2066
01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 3: of these off, and we might do like eight of them,

2067
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:24,800
Speaker 3: seven of them.

2068
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,320
Speaker 4: I was gonna say that, you know, we did so

2069
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 4: good on this show's five topics that we've pushed the limit.

2070
01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 4: Do you want to just rush into fan subs? Do

2071
01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:33,479
Speaker 4: you want it? What do you want to do here, Lucas?

2072
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to bastardize your debut over under segment.

2073
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 1: You know we can do like five of them. How

2074
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 1: about how.

2075
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:40,600
Speaker 4: About you do them all and shut the hell up?

2076
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:40,840
Speaker 5: Luke?

2077
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 1: Okay, now we'll do like five of them. Are you ready?

2078
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 1: All right, let's do this? Uh BC?

2079
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:49,120
Speaker 4: Don't you have like a don't you have to toss

2080
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 4: to the opening intro?

2081
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: Luke?

2082
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,519
Speaker 3: You know if you missed it, you missed it when

2083
01:30:52,520 --> 01:30:54,799
Speaker 3: you're potato of a computer crashed.

2084
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: So sorry, all right, BC, let's do this.

2085
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 3: Rampage Jackson is talking about returning to U competition. He

2086
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:05,479
Speaker 3: wants to fight old rivals. He mentioned Vanderley. He even

2087
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 3: mentioned Darren schoolvo or whatever. His guy's name was, Darren

2088
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 3: School School over schoon over School. Yeah, the guy, the

2089
01:31:13,160 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 3: guy he affectionately named tits uh BC, I'm gonna set

2090
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 3: the over under at point five? How many pro boxing

2091
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 3: wheor MMA fights as Rampage have left.

2092
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 4: I mean, so the Titties guy is from The Ultimate

2093
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 4: Fighter and he got on that guy. Look, I hope zero.

2094
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 4: But if he's talking about it at this point, I'm

2095
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,560
Speaker 4: gonna assume there's a want for money and another another RENDEZVOUSO.

2096
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,679
Speaker 4: The problem is his twilight was just dark and round Luke,

2097
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 4: and and I just mean the the weight he came in,

2098
01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 4: I mean it was a bit. You know what he

2099
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,080
Speaker 4: showed up for for the for the fade or fight.

2100
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,280
Speaker 4: He it was abysmal, right, you know, it was absolutely

2101
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 4: a busin it was.

2102
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 1: It was. It was.

2103
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:53,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean it's like in like a really

2104
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 3: serious way. It was like unprofessional it was.

2105
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 4: And we can go deeper on the twilight that led

2106
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 4: up to that where he just I mean when he

2107
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:05,000
Speaker 4: fell off, he fell off. So, knowing the fight landscape

2108
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 4: right now and the available opportunities of any direction, he

2109
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:10,760
Speaker 4: wants to go from bare knuckle to I don't know, Luke,

2110
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 4: I say over, But damn, damn do I not like

2111
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 4: this idea? I mean, it would be better if he

2112
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 4: got into great shape. I hope he would for this, Luke,

2113
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,360
Speaker 4: But I mean, could you imagine him in a bare

2114
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 4: knuckle fight or a boxing match or a slap competition. God,

2115
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 4: I hope no. But I'm going over, dude, I'm going over.

2116
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:30,240
Speaker 4: He'll have at least one more and it'll probably be disastrous.

2117
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 4: But you know, there's no pension in this game, Luke,

2118
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,720
Speaker 4: So what are you gonna do? Right?

2119
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: All right, let's keep it moving here, BC.

2120
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 3: Jorge Masviital of course is back in the news, but

2121
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 3: he's in a bit of a strange place in his

2122
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:45,280
Speaker 3: career as well. Still valuable, but on the losing end

2123
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 3: of things, and it's not exactly clear which way it's

2124
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 3: all going to break.

2125
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: We'll set the over under one more time at point five.

2126
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,559
Speaker 1: Don't worry, we won't do that again. BC. This is

2127
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:58,160
Speaker 1: the number of title shots from today Masbital will have

2128
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,479
Speaker 1: in the UFC before he tires.

2129
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 4: The answer is going to be under and no, because

2130
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 4: because he's got to fight Gilbert Burns right now. He

2131
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 4: agreed to it right he he he left his management

2132
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 4: team and kind of made the inference that there might

2133
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:21,520
Speaker 4: be a lawsuit moving forward, and so we talked about

2134
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 4: reasoning why he took this fight, and I didn't hear

2135
01:33:24,360 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 4: his interview with Ariel, but I'm sure he broke it down.

2136
01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 4: But you know, at face value, he's got to win

2137
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 4: it to get the remaining big money fights, whether that's

2138
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,240
Speaker 4: if Edwards keeps the belt, they fight for the title,

2139
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:38,800
Speaker 4: or obviously a Con McGregor type fight. But Luke, I

2140
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:41,160
Speaker 4: don't think he's gonna beat Gilbert Burns, and I want

2141
01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,200
Speaker 4: to withhold judgment that it still canna be a fun,

2142
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:46,200
Speaker 4: competitive fight, and obviously they both can fight in action style.

2143
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 4: Let's see what we got here. But no, that's it,

2144
01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 4: that's not gonna I mean, if he goes out there

2145
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 4: and loses, how are you even remotely going to justify that?

2146
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:57,559
Speaker 4: You can't. So the only title fight left is a

2147
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,280
Speaker 4: BMF title fight, and he said he won't with that

2148
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 4: title on the line here because the UFC won't pay

2149
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:05,479
Speaker 4: him BMF money. So the answer is the under.

2150
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: No. All right, BC, we're just having a little fun

2151
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: with this.

2152
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:10,439
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, but today is

2153
01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 3: the first day of Black History months, so we're gonna

2154
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,880
Speaker 3: set the over under at four.

2155
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: We're just having a little fun, that's all we're doing.

2156
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: We're gonna set the over under at four.

2157
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 3: The number of fighters black fighters, Brian Brian Campbell can

2158
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 3: name who have fought in the UFC who are currently

2159
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 3: not on the UFC roster. So you can name anyone,

2160
01:34:31,320 --> 01:34:36,839
Speaker 3: any black fighter who's fun is your assumption an anyone,

2161
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 3: anyone from any.

2162
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:39,479
Speaker 1: Point is not the current roster.

2163
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 4: Eve Edwards correct, Dean Thomas correct, Gary Goodridge correct. Okay,

2164
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 4: that's just the beginning, Luke, right right, okay, like you

2165
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:56,680
Speaker 4: know what's our over under here for hold on.

2166
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,640
Speaker 3: We've talked about that. We've talked about one of the

2167
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 3: guys who fought.

2168
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 4: Fad Or, Carlos Newton.

2169
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was canading up with that counts yep.

2170
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:10,080
Speaker 4: I mean, d look, race and nationality don't always go

2171
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 4: hand in hand, right.

2172
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:12,600
Speaker 3: That's true, That's very true. I was gonna say, I

2173
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,000
Speaker 3: hit the four mark. You could have said Kevin Randleman

2174
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 3: because I said Kevin jen I mean, I.

2175
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,920
Speaker 4: Could have said a lot more. But you you were

2176
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 4: really trying. Yeah, I mean, nobody puts the BC in

2177
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 4: a corner you. Hey, hey, Swayzee, you were trying, all right,

2178
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:27,599
Speaker 4: you were really trying there. But uh, did I meet

2179
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 4: my minimum? I'm not a racist quotion.

2180
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,320
Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, I mean you met the minimum.

2181
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 4: You have to relive some risen highlights here, I mean,

2182
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:36,920
Speaker 4: what the hell's wrong with you? Seriously?

2183
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Just having fun? Just having fun? All right? BC? Back

2184
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: to fad Or.

2185
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 3: Fad Or fights this weekend, and of course is something

2186
01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,920
Speaker 3: of a living legend, which I'm sure you would agree with.

2187
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 3: With that in mind, from the start of the main

2188
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:52,320
Speaker 3: card broadcast until the conclusion of the event, how many

2189
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 3: times will the team call fad Or a legend on

2190
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 3: the broadcast?

2191
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 1: The over under a set at nine and a half.

2192
01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:04,799
Speaker 4: Wow, wow, uh, no question, the over no question? Oh really,

2193
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 4: I think the better debate is greatest heavyweight of all time.

2194
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 4: I think we'll get three total on that, maybe four max.

2195
01:36:14,439 --> 01:36:17,880
Speaker 4: But living legend from the desk to the to the

2196
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,680
Speaker 4: to the to the sizzle packages. Yeah, you're gonna get

2197
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:22,800
Speaker 4: You're gonna get that a lot.

2198
01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:25,560
Speaker 1: You know, fin interview. I think you're gonna get it.

2199
01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:26,719
Speaker 4: It's freaking true.

2200
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:30,679
Speaker 3: I mean, god, really, you know, because it's not true,

2201
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:32,200
Speaker 3: it's actually the most true.

2202
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:33,920
Speaker 1: I just feel like you're gonna hear it a lot.

2203
01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 1: You're gonna I.

2204
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 4: Mean, Mama, Miah, it's true. Luke okay, so yes, Morel's

2205
01:36:37,600 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 4: gonna be all up in that, and so would I too.

2206
01:36:39,840 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, BC.

2207
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,640
Speaker 3: Speaking of the fat Or broadcast, which of course is

2208
01:36:43,640 --> 01:36:46,520
Speaker 3: bal Tour's debut on Big CBS.

2209
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: Of course, there's really just two point you raised.

2210
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,439
Speaker 3: In the age of streaming and blah blah blah, there's

2211
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 3: just no telling how it will do on network TV.

2212
01:36:52,439 --> 01:36:55,080
Speaker 3: So let's set the over under to nine hundred and

2213
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 3: ninety nine and ninety five the amount of viewers the

2214
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 3: main car broadcast will average on CBS.

2215
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're setting it essentially at.

2216
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:10,000
Speaker 1: A million here, So basically.

2217
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 4: Thirteen twelve, thirteen years ago, it peaked at five point

2218
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:18,160
Speaker 4: four to six. Yeah, the Kimbo Petrozelli Elitics c card

2219
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,040
Speaker 4: wasn't that far removed from that. But that is a

2220
01:37:20,080 --> 01:37:21,760
Speaker 4: different time and place.

2221
01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:22,800
Speaker 1: Totally different era.

2222
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 4: I mean, just like extremely different time and place. I mean,

2223
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 4: it's even a different time in place than when like

2224
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 4: Keith Thurman and Sean Porter did five million. You know,

2225
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 4: it's five six years ago.

2226
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I think you're overthinking this now.

2227
01:37:40,360 --> 01:37:42,360
Speaker 4: You know, first of all, I've been very quick on

2228
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:44,719
Speaker 4: my responses so that I can get every over under

2229
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 4: out out here.

2230
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, that's true. Thanks true.

2231
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,840
Speaker 3: I mean CBS Mike Mikey pointing out, Yeah, Mikey pointing

2232
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:52,559
Speaker 3: out just a golf tournament is no other big sports.

2233
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 4: There's no NFL this weekend, right, So here's here's the

2234
01:37:55,360 --> 01:37:57,719
Speaker 4: here's the thing here, CBS is still the most watched network,

2235
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,760
Speaker 4: and you have to believe that the common of old

2236
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:04,839
Speaker 4: people mixed with Middle America is everybody up on smart

2237
01:38:04,880 --> 01:38:08,439
Speaker 4: TVs and having every app and not consuming things through

2238
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 4: the traditional cable way. I don't think so, Luke. I

2239
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:13,639
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of people that are still watching

2240
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,400
Speaker 4: old school flip through the channels. Nowadays. I don't flip

2241
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:17,960
Speaker 4: through the channels. I go directly to the app.

2242
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:18,320
Speaker 1: I want.

2243
01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 4: I look what's on the front screen. I pick it

2244
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 4: right or I searched for something. Yeah, it's gonna be

2245
01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 4: over here.

2246
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:28,519
Speaker 3: And that's not just wis it's how far over I

2247
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,439
Speaker 3: don't know, but it's definitely gonna be.

2248
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 4: The over it is, you know, Yay, Paramount Luke. Okay,

2249
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 4: one team, one dream. There we go. It's gonna be

2250
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:36,640
Speaker 4: good here, let's do that.

2251
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: All right, very good? We move on BC.

2252
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 3: Aljamin Sterling, if you didn't hear, BC is headed to Columbia.

2253
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,559
Speaker 1: This is true. Linage in Columbia to get.

2254
01:38:44,600 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 3: What's called the bio accelerator stem cell therapy to heal

2255
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:49,440
Speaker 3: his biceps.

2256
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:53,320
Speaker 4: Interest that shit you sawta legalized or what it is.

2257
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 1: Yes, you can get stem cell therapy.

2258
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:57,599
Speaker 3: I think there's certain protocols around what you can get

2259
01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 3: as part of it, but yes, you can get st

2260
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 3: cell therapy. They don't really mind, which, by the way,

2261
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:03,880
Speaker 3: is you know, there's a broader debate to be had

2262
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 3: about whether that should be allowed. But okay, neither here

2263
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,160
Speaker 3: nor there it is allowed. He's gonna go get it

2264
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 3: in Columbia, BC. We're gonna set the over under at

2265
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 3: four and a half. This is the number of months

2266
01:39:14,720 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 3: from today February first, that it will be before Sterling

2267
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 3: defends his title over under a four and a half.

2268
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Under.

2269
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 4: Tell me why because the UFC will put pressure on

2270
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 4: him to do it because they want him to face

2271
01:39:32,280 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 4: Henry Suhudo, And I don't feel like they're going in

2272
01:39:35,160 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 4: the direction of Sahudo versus O'Malley for the interim title.

2273
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 4: They could go there if they had to or wanted to,

2274
01:39:42,240 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 4: But I think when it comes down to it, they

2275
01:39:44,240 --> 01:39:47,040
Speaker 4: will give him enough money, like he can actually potentially

2276
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 4: use this as leverage here. They can, they can, they can,

2277
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 4: they can spice it up a little bit and they'll

2278
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 4: get him back. And don't you respond quickly to these

2279
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 4: type of extreme things, didn't Kobe used to go to

2280
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:57,679
Speaker 4: Germany on like a on like a one day flight

2281
01:39:57,720 --> 01:39:59,599
Speaker 4: and get his knee all kind of fixed and come

2282
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 4: back and play that stuff happened right here.

2283
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 3: For some reason, this thing is going in and out.

2284
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,680
Speaker 3: Just give me a second. Take me off screen, please.

2285
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:08,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, just take that guy off the screen. Yeah, I'm

2286
01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 4: gonna go I'm gonna go under at this point, I'm

2287
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:11,720
Speaker 4: gonna go under.

2288
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

2289
01:40:12,400 --> 01:40:14,559
Speaker 4: It obviously comes down to what they potentially need in

2290
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,200
Speaker 4: then again, is International Fight Week the over in this

2291
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:22,679
Speaker 4: case four and a half months from today February first? Yeah,

2292
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,040
Speaker 4: I guess that would be the over? All? Right, I

2293
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 4: take it back. It's gonna be the over. It's gonna

2294
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 4: be the overlook. It's gonna be the over.

2295
01:40:28,479 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Now, I'll have you back.

2296
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 4: Very good, all right, inter National Fight Week co main

2297
01:40:32,439 --> 01:40:34,599
Speaker 4: event or maybe the main We'll see what Connor does.

2298
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:36,479
Speaker 1: All right, b C, very good.

2299
01:40:36,560 --> 01:40:39,040
Speaker 3: Speaking of Columbia, I talk about it all the time,

2300
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,320
Speaker 3: and yet I'm not exactly sure how much you know

2301
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 3: about it. So let's set the over under at zero

2302
01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 3: point five one more time.

2303
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:47,320
Speaker 1: BC.

2304
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 3: The number of Colombian cuisine items you can named, not

2305
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:55,920
Speaker 3: including coffee, now that you.

2306
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 4: Can be or is that anything you can put in

2307
01:40:58,280 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 4: your bloodstream?

2308
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:04,479
Speaker 3: No, you cannot any food food, okay, or drink food

2309
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 3: or drink?

2310
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:07,880
Speaker 4: All right, all powder based options will not count. Here

2311
01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:11,880
Speaker 4: is the number zero or is it one? It's it's

2312
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 4: it's it's well, you're putting it at point five, dude,

2313
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 4: isn't Jimmy Chrurry you're like Colombian dream or is that

2314
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 4: not even Colombian?

2315
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 1: Uh, it's not Colombian.

2316
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:23,959
Speaker 3: You can get it in Colombia, but it's Argentineum, yeah.

2317
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 4: Am I really not gonna be? I mean, dude, I

2318
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:27,639
Speaker 4: had a lot more African American UFC veterans and alumps

2319
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 4: if you if you had raised that number, just so

2320
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:31,400
Speaker 4: you know, like just so we're putting our cards on

2321
01:41:31,439 --> 01:41:34,400
Speaker 4: the table here, Luke, Okay, division by division, I could

2322
01:41:34,439 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 4: have broke that shit down, But in this case, Luke,

2323
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 4: I've i've I know the answer. It's under I don't

2324
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 4: know what that. What is Colombian known for, Luke? Two

2325
01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 4: things that begin with the letter C, and then the

2326
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 4: other thing they're known for has three letters. The first

2327
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 4: one is a B, the last ones an L, and

2328
01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,840
Speaker 4: then you know, like you know what I'm saying.

2329
01:41:51,880 --> 01:41:56,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, Mikey says at apos, which is true,

2330
01:41:56,880 --> 01:41:59,559
Speaker 3: although other countries have at APAs, but Colombians have their

2331
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,120
Speaker 3: own so I would have I would have accepted. Yeah,

2332
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:04,240
Speaker 3: there's a lot of different ways you could go, Sobay Bayga.

2333
01:42:04,320 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 3: You could go Achiako, you could go if you want

2334
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,439
Speaker 3: to get drinks, you could go Aguadadiente, which I've told

2335
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,760
Speaker 3: you about numerous times. There's all kinds of ways you

2336
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:13,360
Speaker 3: could have gone. You didn't know a single one.

2337
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 4: Wow, it sounded like you were rewriting like a Colombian

2338
01:42:16,240 --> 01:42:18,800
Speaker 4: version of the Gringo Poppy stand up, specially right there.

2339
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:21,080
Speaker 3: You like no, I mean, I might be slurring my Spanish,

2340
01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:25,880
Speaker 3: but I mean no, I try gada danta literally means firewater.

2341
01:42:26,720 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 4: I thought you were gonna ask me like an over

2342
01:42:28,439 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 4: under of three Colombian cities and then I would have

2343
01:42:31,320 --> 01:42:33,240
Speaker 4: to like dig into the dome to prove you wrong.

2344
01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 1: But you know you could you name three Colombia. I'll

2345
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:36,839
Speaker 1: accept three Colombians.

2346
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 4: Oh maybe you'll have to find out next time. Luke,

2347
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 4: we don't have enough time.

2348
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 3: Oh all right, moving along, almost done here, BC power

2349
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:46,200
Speaker 3: slap just won't quit, It just won't quit. Let's say

2350
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 3: it doesn't get canceled, and we have to deal with

2351
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,240
Speaker 3: a full year of this. Right when I say it

2352
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 3: doesn't get canceled, I mean right away, right, So I'm

2353
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 3: gonna put the number at two and a half the

2354
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:57,680
Speaker 3: amount of fighters who have UFC experience who end up

2355
01:42:57,680 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 3: taking part in the Slap Dig League before the year

2356
01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 3: is over.

2357
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 1: You're over, under is too Okay.

2358
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 4: Let's set ground rules here. So this season of TBS

2359
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,640
Speaker 4: the Road to Power Slap ends in March with that

2360
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,120
Speaker 4: pay per view. If it's successful, and I mean, how

2361
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 4: is that pay per view going to be successful? I

2362
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 4: don't know if it's successful. Could they roll out a

2363
01:43:19,800 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 4: new season in the summer, obviously? So, so well, let's

2364
01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 4: say there's there's yeah, I mean, there are a lot

2365
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 4: of people, Luke, who have technically UFC experience who I'm

2366
01:43:32,680 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 4: gonna be honest or probably down on their luck here.

2367
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,680
Speaker 4: And look at this, as you know, we already know

2368
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:39,599
Speaker 4: that there's feelers being put out to male and female fighters.

2369
01:43:41,160 --> 01:43:45,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the under, Luke, because I believe in

2370
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 4: in the good in this world. And under, I mean,

2371
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 4: who's gonna be the first guy across the picket line here,

2372
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 4: Who's gonna be the first guy or girl who has

2373
01:43:58,280 --> 01:43:59,800
Speaker 4: had a UFC fight that's gonna go?

2374
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:02,200
Speaker 3: Oh, do you know it's you know, it's gonna kill

2375
01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:04,320
Speaker 3: me as the first person who like tries on Contender

2376
01:44:04,360 --> 01:44:06,519
Speaker 3: Series and can't make it and then they end up

2377
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 3: in Slap League. They went from Contender Series to Slap League.

2378
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,760
Speaker 3: That that one will really break my heart. That one

2379
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:13,599
Speaker 3: would that would be bad.

2380
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:15,840
Speaker 4: Well, you know, at least they at least it's you know,

2381
01:44:15,880 --> 01:44:18,479
Speaker 4: they have all the medicals in order for this. Luke, Okay,

2382
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 4: all right, dommy.

2383
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:25,840
Speaker 3: Dumb ass, all right, BC. Upcoming is your first trip

2384
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:29,880
Speaker 3: to Europe. I expect, which is natural. You're gonna find

2385
01:44:29,920 --> 01:44:33,560
Speaker 3: some things disorienting. Although you know the language won't be

2386
01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 3: a big deal, but the customs, the food, and even

2387
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:37,760
Speaker 3: sometimes the accents they might trip you up.

2388
01:44:38,040 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 1: So let's put the over under at seven and a half.

2389
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: All right, this is the number of times.

2390
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,640
Speaker 3: You're gonna verbally complain to me or anyone else on

2391
01:44:46,760 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 3: staff that you quote like the way this is done

2392
01:44:50,160 --> 01:44:51,240
Speaker 3: in America better?

2393
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:52,680
Speaker 1: All right?

2394
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 3: How many times are you gonna see something and be like,

2395
01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 3: I like this done better in America? Okay, I like

2396
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 3: the American version better. How many times over the course

2397
01:45:02,080 --> 01:45:03,560
Speaker 3: of five days.

2398
01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:05,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go under because I are You're full of

2399
01:45:05,800 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 4: shit you, I don't think it's gonna be all that different. Now,

2400
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 4: I'm really excited. I expect to be welcomed given. I mean, look,

2401
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 4: if anyone has more I know that people don't like

2402
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 4: this term, but more UK plus in them. Yet you know,

2403
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:22,040
Speaker 4: not from there, could you find somebody else? I mean,

2404
01:45:22,120 --> 01:45:24,400
Speaker 4: I'm one aph Irish, I've been adopted by the Welsh.

2405
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 4: I've got a Scottish last name.

2406
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,200
Speaker 3: Lik you think the British care about this, They don't

2407
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:29,840
Speaker 3: my country.

2408
01:45:31,320 --> 01:45:33,040
Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you one thing. British people

2409
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 1: don't care about Americans telling them about their British and

2410
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:38,000
Speaker 1: UK heritage. They don't give a ship, they don't give

2411
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:38,400
Speaker 1: a fuck.

2412
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 4: Uh No, the under okay, because you did surprise me

2413
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 4: today by by alerting me of these. Not only did

2414
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:48,360
Speaker 4: I do I need at a plug adapter? Because Europeans

2415
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 4: do it differently, but the UK does it differently than

2416
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 4: the europe Kids. That's weird. Uh driving on the other

2417
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 4: side of the road. I've only experienced that on Caribbean islands,

2418
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 4: so that's gonna be weird. But from there on, Luke,

2419
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I have fish and chips at Epcot.

2420
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 4: What else do you know what else you know, I've

2421
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:08,680
Speaker 4: I've drinken brown ale before. You know, I've made all

2422
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 4: with chicks with their fat teeth before. So like what else?

2423
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:11,439
Speaker 1: What you know?

2424
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 4: Like where else are we going with this? You know?

2425
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,880
Speaker 4: Like I think that in general.

2426
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Look what Mikey wrote, the chat is saying, way over.

2427
01:46:19,479 --> 01:46:23,360
Speaker 4: In general, Luke growing up in a factory town. I

2428
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,639
Speaker 4: don't think it's all that different from Birmingham or you know,

2429
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:29,280
Speaker 4: Newcastle or ways.

2430
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 3: In certain ways, it's all kind of the same, right

2431
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 3: In certain ways, the sun comes up, you have three

2432
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 3: meals a day, you go out whatever.

2433
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,360
Speaker 1: It's like all the same. But in many, like very

2434
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:41,280
Speaker 1: distinct ways. The British are very British, the Americans are

2435
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:43,400
Speaker 1: very American, and so forth, and that it can be

2436
01:46:43,439 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 1: disorienting or weird when you try to do things according

2437
01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 1: to a different system, even if in the end that

2438
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: you understand, like it's not a huge departure, it feels

2439
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:52,320
Speaker 1: like one at times.

2440
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,479
Speaker 4: Well, I assume I'm going to go there, be welcomed

2441
01:46:55,479 --> 01:46:58,680
Speaker 4: with open arms, and then you know, exit going. Man,

2442
01:46:58,720 --> 01:47:01,080
Speaker 4: I could live here. I mean, people are passionate about

2443
01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,719
Speaker 4: combat sports. I sweep the language, you know what I'm saying,

2444
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 4: as long as they don't find out that I'm that

2445
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,479
Speaker 4: I'm you know, half French. As long as they can

2446
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,360
Speaker 4: they can they can, you know, as long as you're

2447
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 4: okay with that, Luca. But you know, in general, Luke,

2448
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 4: I am. I mean I expect this to be Yeah,

2449
01:47:18,120 --> 01:47:21,000
Speaker 4: so you know everyone who they LBC, you so ignorant

2450
01:47:21,080 --> 01:47:24,280
Speaker 4: to culture and everything? Yeah, but how much culture does

2451
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:26,400
Speaker 4: the UK have outside of London? Luke? You tell me

2452
01:47:26,439 --> 01:47:28,639
Speaker 4: it always it looks like the US did two hundred

2453
01:47:28,720 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 4: years ago most of the time.

2454
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 3: Right, It's like I think you're gonna find it's a

2455
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 3: little different. Yeah, it's a little different. They got their

2456
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:36,920
Speaker 3: own way of doing things and some of it's great,

2457
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:37,400
Speaker 3: some of it's not.

2458
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:38,160
Speaker 1: But it's different.

2459
01:47:38,200 --> 01:47:40,200
Speaker 4: Are you saying that their whole system is left handed

2460
01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 4: compared to what we do in the US. Is that

2461
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:43,639
Speaker 4: what you're saying, I'm culture shock is going to be great.

2462
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like the places you visit where

2463
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:48,120
Speaker 4: they don't have toilets, they just have holes. They got

2464
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:49,720
Speaker 4: they got plumbing there. Right.

2465
01:47:50,040 --> 01:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Well, here's one thing. Now, I haven't been the last

2466
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: do you remember that? Okay, so this is true, BC.

2467
01:47:54,600 --> 01:47:57,599
Speaker 3: Do you remember when the Red Sox pulled off that

2468
01:47:57,720 --> 01:48:02,080
Speaker 3: reverse sweep on the Yankees, so they were down three four.

2469
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 3: I was there for the game in which they had finally,

2470
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 3: so I left the country after the first three games.

2471
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 3: I was like, well, the Red Sox are done. And

2472
01:48:10,840 --> 01:48:12,640
Speaker 3: then and then they came back and they won the

2473
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 3: whole thing.

2474
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:13,640
Speaker 1: I was.

2475
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 3: The last time I was in London was then, So

2476
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 3: this is two thousand and four, and I remembered in

2477
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:21,240
Speaker 3: the men's room they did not use like urinal cakes

2478
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 3: in any of these places, especially at the bars, and

2479
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:25,880
Speaker 3: so you go to the bars and the urine will

2480
01:48:25,960 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 3: just be like overwhelming in the men's room relative to

2481
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,080
Speaker 3: an American place, which with the chuck a couple of

2482
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 3: urinal cakes in there.

2483
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're if you're in a classy Midwestern

2484
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:37,960
Speaker 4: adult club, you'd put ice in the urinals. But okay,

2485
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:39,640
Speaker 4: I get your point. But you know, you asked me

2486
01:48:39,680 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 4: if I remember I told you I was at the

2487
01:48:41,240 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 4: Bloody Sock game, right, And remember I mentioned I like

2488
01:48:43,800 --> 01:48:46,720
Speaker 4: I like Chilling as a player, and then snarky red

2489
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:48,880
Speaker 4: Ginger thought I meant I like his politics, and then

2490
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:51,160
Speaker 4: you know, then the whole everyone turned on me. I

2491
01:48:51,200 --> 01:48:53,720
Speaker 4: got a few of these moments, but at least I

2492
01:48:53,720 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 4: protected myself today with the UFC African American question. You

2493
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 4: know what I mean?

2494
01:48:56,960 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 1: But no A yeah, go ahead, all right, BC.

2495
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,200
Speaker 3: We all know that you are a horrendous creep and

2496
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 3: unbelievably sick human being.

2497
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 1: All right, not fair. We know that you follow a lot.

2498
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 3: Of female one tis on Instagram, But the question is

2499
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:11,759
Speaker 3: just how I prefer?

2500
01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 4: Thank you?

2501
01:49:12,840 --> 01:49:16,160
Speaker 3: Okay, it's fine, one fifteen, It's fine. Let's set the

2502
01:49:16,240 --> 01:49:20,440
Speaker 3: number at ten and a half. How many MMA strawweights

2503
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 3: does BC follow specifically on Instagram? Ten and a half

2504
01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,599
Speaker 3: is the over or under?

2505
01:49:27,920 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 4: Can I call up the rankings to support this? Or

2506
01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:30,960
Speaker 4: do I have to go off the top of my head?

2507
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 3: I mean, whatever, you need to get the number accurate.

2508
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:35,920
Speaker 3: This is the last one, by the way, So this

2509
01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:36,760
Speaker 3: is the this is the.

2510
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,360
Speaker 4: I like this, by the way, you know, turning the

2511
01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 4: tables making luke, you know.

2512
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 1: And by the way, I didn't beat you up too bad.

2513
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:44,760
Speaker 1: I didn't beat you up too bad.

2514
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:45,719
Speaker 4: That's fine.

2515
01:49:46,200 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 1: You're merciless with me.

2516
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:53,320
Speaker 4: I mean, if it's specific yeah, over, yeah, it's over.

2517
01:49:53,560 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: It's fine.

2518
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:57,000
Speaker 4: Fine, Okay, I'm big fight fan, you know, just you know,

2519
01:49:57,200 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 4: just it's fine. You know, I gotta I gotta keep

2520
01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:01,160
Speaker 4: up right, you know, I gotta know.

2521
01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:03,840
Speaker 3: Who's you know, I didn't do any he didn't do

2522
01:50:03,960 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 3: any calculations. He just looked at this and he's like, yeah,

2523
01:50:06,280 --> 01:50:08,160
Speaker 3: it's definitely I'll take the over on that one.

2524
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 1: That one's gonna be high. That's great. That's it. That's

2525
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: it for over Under VC Edition. Great stuff, good stuff,

2526
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 1: Well done. Do you want to say not very anyway?

2527
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,120
Speaker 4: Do you want to save these fight fan submissions or

2528
01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:21,200
Speaker 4: you want to bang these now?

2529
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 1: If you want to bang them, we can bang them.

2530
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:24,800
Speaker 4: We got an extra time, all right, let's bang. We

2531
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:27,479
Speaker 4: offer you an opportunity through Morning Combat at gmail dot

2532
01:50:27,560 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 4: com to send in your artwork, pictures of you and

2533
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:34,200
Speaker 4: your wife and you know m K Merch traveling the globe,

2534
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 4: you know, living the life on the on the on

2535
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,160
Speaker 4: the lake there at Mount you Nike, you know, whatever,

2536
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:40,160
Speaker 4: what have you got going on?

2537
01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:40,439
Speaker 1: Right?

2538
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:43,320
Speaker 4: You know, Little Anthony and his lady are gonna you know,

2539
01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:45,800
Speaker 4: make love on an m K T shirt. And that's fine, Luke.

2540
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 4: They're they're starting a family. But we call this fan submissions.

2541
01:50:50,880 --> 01:50:52,639
Speaker 1: You've got mail feu.

2542
01:50:55,920 --> 01:50:59,320
Speaker 4: Look who voiced that do we know gaff gaff Yeah,

2543
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:01,760
Speaker 4: gaffs the best, all right. We had put out a

2544
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,160
Speaker 4: call to action to step up these fan subs, and

2545
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:06,679
Speaker 4: I think I also tried to rescue that one fan sub.

2546
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 4: We'll see what we got here. This is from Jack

2547
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:12,400
Speaker 4: to kickoff. Greetings from Toronto. My name is Jack McCool

2548
01:51:12,760 --> 01:51:14,800
Speaker 4: and I just recently returned home from an epic one

2549
01:51:14,800 --> 01:51:16,880
Speaker 4: month trip through Europe. I made sure to pack my

2550
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,200
Speaker 4: MK hoodie for the trip and were it to some

2551
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 4: of my favorite spots, desperately hoping to encounter a fellow

2552
01:51:22,520 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 4: donk in the wild, but no luck. We visited Portugal, Spain,

2553
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:28,639
Speaker 4: France and it was a truly unforgettable experience. I didn't

2554
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,559
Speaker 4: miss a show or interview throughout, and you guys kept

2555
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,240
Speaker 4: me sane whenever I started to miss home. The pictures

2556
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: of me are in Naseir, Portugal, home of the biggest

2557
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 4: surf waves on planet Earth. And then somehow I convince

2558
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:45,400
Speaker 4: my incredible girlfriend to let me wear this crazy show's

2559
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 4: merch in front of the Eiffel Tower. She doesn't care

2560
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 4: for combat sports whatsoever, but was in the room when

2561
01:51:51,479 --> 01:51:53,519
Speaker 4: I listened to each of you talk about Dana White's

2562
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,760
Speaker 4: domestic violence, and she now considers herself a fan of

2563
01:51:56,840 --> 01:52:00,000
Speaker 4: both of you. Keep doing what you're doing, and I'm

2564
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,439
Speaker 4: a dog for life. Look do you think our coverage

2565
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 4: of social issues pertaining to the UFC has brought in

2566
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:09,200
Speaker 4: the female fan base for the first time? Uh?

2567
01:52:09,479 --> 01:52:13,320
Speaker 1: Brought in the male counterparts to the female fan base.

2568
01:52:13,400 --> 01:52:14,799
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know who brought in the females.

2569
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 4: What are you saying we brought in soy boys? Is

2570
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 4: that where you're going with this, Luke?

2571
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying, like I still don't know how

2572
01:52:20,240 --> 01:52:23,040
Speaker 3: many women watch the show, but definitely the dudes who

2573
01:52:23,080 --> 01:52:25,200
Speaker 3: watch show, their women are more okay with it now

2574
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 3: than they once worked.

2575
01:52:26,240 --> 01:52:28,759
Speaker 4: All right, can you go back to that Eiffel Tower shop, Mikey.

2576
01:52:29,160 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 4: I mean, look at this is more like Eiffel Power.

2577
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 4: Look at this guy. He's got an MK hoodie, he's

2578
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 4: got the love of his life. I mean, you know, bro,

2579
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 4: Jack put a ring on that ship. All right? Yeah,

2580
01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:42,800
Speaker 4: all right, all right, Jack says he's a dog for life.

2581
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:45,600
Speaker 4: We appreciate you, by the way, Luke. A lot of

2582
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 4: people saying, hey, guys, when are you gonna do a

2583
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:48,840
Speaker 4: live show in Canada. Can we get through the London

2584
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 4: show first?

2585
01:52:49,800 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, and we have big things to get we

2586
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,519
Speaker 3: have to tackle and then we can worry about it later.

2587
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,639
Speaker 4: So then we'll show up in life at Bronstetter's house

2588
01:52:57,640 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 4: and we'll throw a rager. Yeah all right, let's go

2589
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 4: to Andy, long time listener from England here. Unfortunately I

2590
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 4: can't make it to the live show, so I decided

2591
01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 4: to fly out to Brazil and represent MK at two

2592
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:10,160
Speaker 4: eighty three in Rio. Uh please excuse the double chin.

2593
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 4: I am washed well before my time, and I put

2594
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:16,719
Speaker 4: it down to listening to you dirtbags for several hours

2595
01:53:16,720 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 4: per week. Keep up the award winning work. Look what

2596
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:21,120
Speaker 4: are your thoughts on Andy? Here? Justin all black?

2597
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 3: He definitely looks like he has been to a Cannibal

2598
01:53:27,080 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 3: Corpse concert or seven.

2599
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

2600
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,000
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, look at that. Look at that. Look at him.

2601
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 4: You know he supports us, Luke, so we're gonna support

2602
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:36,360
Speaker 4: him back. Wow, look at that. That's a picture.

2603
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,519
Speaker 3: He could definitely be a great candidate for you know,

2604
01:53:38,600 --> 01:53:40,000
Speaker 3: Queer Eye, for the straight guy or whatever.

2605
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: I'd hook him up.

2606
01:53:42,160 --> 01:53:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah there you got. I mean that was unnecessary, but

2607
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:47,320
Speaker 4: thank you very much, Sir Andy. Sir Andy, if you've

2608
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 4: been knighted, thank you. Let's go to Leo from Los Angeles.

2609
01:53:50,360 --> 01:53:53,599
Speaker 4: I found a great fan sub on morning. Comeback. Let's

2610
01:53:53,600 --> 01:54:03,639
Speaker 4: watch this video. Is that a goat smoking or vaping?

2611
01:54:03,640 --> 01:54:04,479
Speaker 4: I can't figure it out.

2612
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I gotta tell you. Unless that's the Delta

2613
01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 3: eight gummy, that's the wrong goat.

2614
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:12,920
Speaker 4: Luke, this Beg's an interesting question here as we wind

2615
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:13,719
Speaker 4: down the show begs.

2616
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: The question does not mean to ask a question. It

2617
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:17,360
Speaker 1: means to restate the premise.

2618
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 4: And the It depends on how I ask you in

2619
01:54:19,640 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 4: a begging tone. You know it could bring it back in. Okay,

2620
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:27,320
Speaker 4: look let me beg here are you bringing for comedic

2621
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:30,839
Speaker 4: effect your vapes to London?

2622
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 1: You know I hadn't thought about that.

2623
01:54:32,800 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 3: Honestly, I'm glad you brought that up now because I

2624
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,280
Speaker 3: probably would not have. So what do you think as

2625
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 3: a prop should I be bringing in some vapage?

2626
01:54:39,320 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sure they sell vapes there. Maybe we

2627
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 4: shouldn't be testing the limits of customs agents, right, is a.

2628
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,920
Speaker 1: Good question for the British. Okay, so British dirtbags like me,

2629
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:52,440
Speaker 1: what's a good vape product you can get in London, Like,

2630
01:54:52,520 --> 01:54:55,680
Speaker 1: what's a legitimately equality one? I mean maybe it's the

2631
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 1: same ones you get here. I don't know.

2632
01:54:56,920 --> 01:54:59,040
Speaker 3: I honestly don't know, but let me know and then

2633
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,040
Speaker 3: I'll get some there when I'm in London.

2634
01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 4: Good dude, I don't need Alanis Morris set to tell you.

2635
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:07,080
Speaker 4: I guarantee the first vape you pull in London, you go, oh,

2636
01:55:07,120 --> 01:55:10,480
Speaker 4: this is so much better in America. I'll tell you absolutely,

2637
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:12,560
Speaker 4: like like a piece of shit you are, I know you.

2638
01:55:12,720 --> 01:55:15,120
Speaker 4: All right, Let's bring in Brian here, Hey, Luke and BC.

2639
01:55:15,560 --> 01:55:17,880
Speaker 4: I'm a forty four year old wash dad just like me.

2640
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 4: Wow and the day one Donk On Wednesday Show, although

2641
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:23,680
Speaker 4: he was dead wrong in real time, Brian delivered some

2642
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,960
Speaker 4: straight up fake news about Seabiscuit in the Academy Award

2643
01:55:28,000 --> 01:55:30,400
Speaker 4: nominations it received. That wasn't me.

2644
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 3: You were saying, there's no way that movie was like

2645
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 3: the Academy Award nominated, it had like eleven nominations.

2646
01:55:36,920 --> 01:55:39,080
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't care, see, Luke, I didn't care about

2647
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:43,280
Speaker 4: like cinematography or like an actually care about Best Picture,

2648
01:55:43,480 --> 01:55:45,960
Speaker 4: Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Supporting both. That's all I

2649
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 4: care about for like, maybe best director too. Anyway, here

2650
01:55:48,640 --> 01:55:50,240
Speaker 4: we go, he said, I spent the rest of my

2651
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 4: afternoon making this instead of working. Thanks for all the

2652
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:55,520
Speaker 4: great content. It's great to watch you guys succeed. You

2653
01:55:55,600 --> 01:55:58,000
Speaker 4: deserve it. Have a great time in the UK. Watch

2654
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 4: yourselves at Heathrow Report Security. They are the angriest border

2655
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 4: guards in the world. Luke, you better get your contraband

2656
01:56:05,920 --> 01:56:14,960
Speaker 4: in order. But let's see what Brian's got for us here. Uh,

2657
01:56:15,400 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 4: BC biscuit is that Whe're going, b C Biscuit. There

2658
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:26,120
Speaker 4: it is BC Biscuit Oscar nominated. Uh there you go.

2659
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:27,880
Speaker 4: All right, well done there, Brian.

2660
01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 3: Thank you that BD E would mean in that giant

2661
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:33,720
Speaker 3: fucking chair that I was in next to Arrayah made

2662
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:34,720
Speaker 3: him look like a hobbit.

2663
01:56:35,480 --> 01:56:38,840
Speaker 4: All right, this is one of the ones that got banned, Luke,

2664
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,839
Speaker 4: but I fought to get it back. So you remember

2665
01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 4: our co donks, our codnks of the year, right, J

2666
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:49,040
Speaker 4: Piquett David Appleton, They'll be in attendance. February eighth, Pod

2667
01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 4: Live episode three ninety seven. They say Luke and BC

2668
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 4: joked about visiting Jay's lake house this summer. I wonder

2669
01:56:57,160 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 4: how that would go love you guys, super fan for life.

2670
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,520
Speaker 4: It's JP and Friends from Mount You Nike. Let's see

2671
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,560
Speaker 4: the video that JP and Appy put together about us

2672
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 4: visiting the Paquettes on the water, invitation for you to

2673
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,040
Speaker 4: come to his house and ride the boat.

2674
01:57:11,880 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 3: Let's see how things go in London. First, JP is

2675
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 3: either just the nicest man on earth or absolutely he's

2676
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 3: gonna skin us alive and you know, hide our bones

2677
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:21,440
Speaker 3: in his fucking basement.

2678
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:25,320
Speaker 4: It's is this a Canadian remake of Deliverance?

2679
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:25,560
Speaker 1: Luke?

2680
01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 4: And this is just a long like trap like we're

2681
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,360
Speaker 4: just you know, yeah, yeah good look, yeah.

2682
01:57:30,200 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 1: Come see my cabin in the woods. This you'll never

2683
01:57:34,160 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: see MK again.

2684
01:57:35,560 --> 01:57:37,400
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, so we can. This has been a long

2685
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 4: play to get you to squeal like a pig. I mean,

2686
01:57:39,320 --> 01:58:02,720
Speaker 4: I you know, m h.

2687
01:58:18,440 --> 01:58:22,600
Speaker 8: I'm David Appleton go Talk of the Year and I

2688
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:24,360
Speaker 8: approved this message.

2689
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 3: This is of every hardcore is to murder you and

2690
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 3: me and then just have themselves.

2691
01:58:44,200 --> 01:58:47,040
Speaker 4: How was Mikey and bronstead are showed up at our

2692
01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:49,320
Speaker 4: funeral there in Nova Scotia, Luke, that was nice, but

2693
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:49,800
Speaker 4: it was.

2694
01:58:49,840 --> 01:58:51,600
Speaker 3: Nice and Monkey to make the track well, he probably

2695
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 3: went there for the Canadian weed too.

2696
01:58:53,120 --> 01:58:55,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I just to me, it's amazing.

2697
01:58:55,680 --> 01:58:57,520
Speaker 3: It's like you would be great with MK is no

2698
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,400
Speaker 3: Luke and Brian and then just us address.

2699
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,400
Speaker 4: Well, what do you think about? Uh? You know that's

2700
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 4: a that's a first ever Appleton Piquette production right there,

2701
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:08,680
Speaker 4: joining for two rivals. You know, two worlds collide, ravel,

2702
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:12,240
Speaker 4: nations coming together, Luke. That's what MK does. It unifies

2703
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:14,800
Speaker 4: this weird world, Luke. And that's what I'm trying to

2704
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 4: do in the British.

2705
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:17,360
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's a good idea for Isis

2706
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 3: to be working with the Taliban I got got that

2707
01:59:19,880 --> 01:59:20,520
Speaker 3: seems like a lot.

2708
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:23,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that's fair to say, you know, the

2709
01:59:23,080 --> 01:59:24,760
Speaker 4: Irish and the English or you know that.

2710
01:59:24,800 --> 01:59:27,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I was saying them to motherfuckers are.

2711
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:31,920
Speaker 4: Look, if these two Donks can change, they can change too. Okay,

2712
01:59:32,120 --> 01:59:34,600
Speaker 4: there you go. Thank you JP and and super friends.

2713
01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 4: We appreciate you. Finally, Alan w is back. I love

2714
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:40,880
Speaker 4: this guy, Luke. I love this guy. Uh. First photo

2715
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:45,680
Speaker 4: is uh part Edward Munch The Scream and part Japanese

2716
01:59:45,800 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 4: Kaiju inspired. On February eighth, the Donks are coming out.

2717
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:50,440
Speaker 4: I have no idea what that means.

2718
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,120
Speaker 1: Well, this is a terrifying photos.

2719
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,760
Speaker 4: So this is Alan once again.

2720
01:59:58,800 --> 02:00:01,000
Speaker 3: I'm just telling you they want what they want out

2721
02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:04,720
Speaker 3: of m K. Is you and I gone?

2722
02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:08,760
Speaker 4: And yeah that's happy on the right, Jay on the left,

2723
02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 4: Luke doing the home alone. That's great. Photo number two

2724
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 4: is remember remember the eighth of February m K arrived

2725
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:18,919
Speaker 4: from abroad with bell ends a plenty, weather so dreary

2726
02:00:19,160 --> 02:00:20,720
Speaker 4: coming on the m K squad.

2727
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:29,440
Speaker 1: That sounds like Shakespeare Morning Combat. Uh yes, okay, okay.

2728
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:35,160
Speaker 4: And finally I think this is Austin Powers inspired. It's groovy, baby,

2729
02:00:36,440 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 4: I just got these.

2730
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 1: Brian. Is that shift? I can't see that ship change?

2731
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 4: Oh that is shift change. Well, I am the third

2732
02:00:48,880 --> 02:00:51,520
Speaker 4: I am the third sibling of that of that famous family,

2733
02:00:51,960 --> 02:00:54,760
Speaker 4: or at least honorary third sibling. There you go, Thank you.

2734
02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: Not mystery.

2735
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:58,680
Speaker 3: Come on, I know what you're doing on that fucking

2736
02:00:58,720 --> 02:00:59,960
Speaker 3: premium economy seat.

2737
02:01:00,200 --> 02:01:02,920
Speaker 4: Did you have that by the way, Yeah, that you know,

2738
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 4: the one Swedish penis pump. This is not my bag, baby,

2739
02:01:07,800 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, Luke. That was Alan W nominated for

2740
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,280
Speaker 4: Dounk of the Year this year. Morning Combat at gmail

2741
02:01:13,320 --> 02:01:14,880
Speaker 4: dot com. You can send your shit in and we'll

2742
02:01:14,880 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 4: look at it too. Thank you to our great fans.

2743
02:01:16,880 --> 02:01:18,480
Speaker 4: It's all about you at the end of the day.

2744
02:01:19,160 --> 02:01:22,240
Speaker 1: Thank you, very good, very good. BC. All right, let's

2745
02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:25,320
Speaker 1: remind everyone poddash Live dot com. We'll see you in

2746
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 1: London if you want to come join us on.

2747
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 3: The eighth, On the very eighth of February, come check

2748
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:33,880
Speaker 3: us out shows basically sold out, so we're gonna have

2749
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:35,120
Speaker 3: a great time no matter what. We have just a

2750
02:01:35,120 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 3: few tickets left. If you want to get a part

2751
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:38,760
Speaker 3: of it, please come say hello and Luke.

2752
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:42,160
Speaker 4: People have said that we teased more guests. We only

2753
02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:45,440
Speaker 4: have a ninety minute block, so we're going with The

2754
02:01:45,480 --> 02:01:48,840
Speaker 4: Outlaw Dan Hardy, but we are filming a lot of

2755
02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,680
Speaker 4: bonus content that you're gonna want to see, room service

2756
02:01:51,720 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 4: diaries on location. We're gonna make some media stops. It's

2757
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:58,640
Speaker 4: gonna be so much fruit being being produced here in

2758
02:01:58,720 --> 02:02:02,040
Speaker 4: terms of great MK content. At the Outlaw, Dan, you're also.

2759
02:02:01,840 --> 02:02:03,720
Speaker 3: With My Mistake, like one of the bigger RSDs we're doing,

2760
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:05,000
Speaker 3: I don't want to say who it's with, but one

2761
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:06,800
Speaker 3: of the ones we're gonna do. I initially thought that

2762
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:08,920
Speaker 3: that person was going to also join us on stage,

2763
02:02:09,160 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 3: and I misunderstood and said it that way. We are

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Speaker 3: doing an RSD with them, but we just we have

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Speaker 3: a very narrow window on which to do this show

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Speaker 3: ninety minutes beginning to end.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, and I need a good hard twenty to

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Speaker 4: open with my material.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, uh okay, And let's see Morning Coombat dot store

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Speaker 3: for the merch.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we have any graphics for that.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 3: You can get the Live in London collection, all that

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Speaker 3: good stuff. Showtime dot com is the label that pays

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Speaker 3: Showtime dot com thirty day free trophy like you can

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Speaker 3: keep it if now you can bounce, don't forget to

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Speaker 3: email the show Morning Combat at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it and BC doesn't see it, but

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Speaker 1: the producer see it Morning Combat Show when you're there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had a mic. They had an old Mikey.

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Speaker 4: Can can be bought with THHD in terms of getting

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Speaker 4: your fans ub pushed up higher.

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Speaker 3: Dude, you could get Mikey to you know, set his

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Speaker 3: property on fire for THFCRE. You can in me, Mikey,

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Speaker 3: I need you to steal your girlfriend's car and then

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Speaker 3: just set it on fire. I've got this bag of

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Speaker 3: Mike Tyson ir edibles. He's just like, show the show

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Speaker 3: me the match in gasoline? Please is all right? Uh okay,

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Speaker 3: that is it for us today. I want to thank

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Speaker 3: Let's see Malka. Thanks CBS Sports, especially Mikey running the

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Speaker 3: ones and two is great job today of course the

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Speaker 3: BC as well and Showtime the whole nine. So we're

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Speaker 3: out of here. We'll see you Friday. And yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: it until next time. May all of your games be

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Speaker 3: loyal