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Speaker 1: Wherever you may be and however you may be listening

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Speaker 1: or watching, appreciate both. Thanks for making us part of

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Speaker 1: your day. You know, Jmac. Teams in sports say a

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Speaker 1: lot public, but you got to watch the actions. Their

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Speaker 1: actions will tell you what's happening behind the scenes, and

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Speaker 1: it's our job to say, Okay, this what's being said,

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Speaker 1: This is what's actually happening. So what is happening right

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Speaker 1: now with the Minnesota Vikings who are forty five million

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Speaker 1: dollars over the cap and yet reportedly.

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Speaker 3: They want Tua.

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Speaker 1: Okay and would have to pay, and so behind the

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Speaker 1: scenes they are going to cut Aaron Jones, They're moving

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Speaker 1: off Hardgrave.

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Speaker 3: What's happening. Well, we start our show with that.

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Speaker 1: What's happening is they know privately, Yeah, the JJ McCarthy thing,

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Speaker 1: it's not working. You're not interested in TUA and reportedly

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. If you're forty five million over the cap,

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Speaker 1: they don't want to release veterans, especially a defensive lineman

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Speaker 1: who was decent last year. Boy, you got to make

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Speaker 1: a decision quick. First of all, he can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, whatever you think of him, I was never

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Speaker 1: a fan at Michigan or out of college.

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Speaker 3: Just my opinion. He can't stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: He's missed twenty four starts, so he may not be

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Speaker 1: built for this league. I know about Caleb Williams, the

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Speaker 1: beating he took as a rookie in Chicago. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: has never missed a start USC with a battle line

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Speaker 1: and the Bears his rookie year with the battle line.

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams never misses a start. Bo Nicks in Denver

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Speaker 1: never missed a regular season start. So JJ McCarthy's body

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Speaker 1: may not be built for this league. He wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: the only one. The second thing is when you watch

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Speaker 1: him play, his confidence is all over the map. And

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for the kid. Sometimes he is on

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Speaker 1: fire and got a lot of juice on his ball,

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Speaker 1: and other times he looks lost and lacking confidence. And

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Speaker 1: you can see both in an hour. And the numbers

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Speaker 1: don't lie on JJ McCarthy completion percentage passer rating was

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Speaker 1: the worst in the league. And remember that is with

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Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell, a top five or six offensive coach. That

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Speaker 1: we always said when Kyle Shanahan said, hey, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: move off a first round pick Trey Lance, that sent

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Speaker 1: a signal to everybody with a functional brain except the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys probably not going to be a guy you

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Speaker 1: give up draft picks for the Cowboys did right, like

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Speaker 1: when an offensive coach. I mean, remember Kevin O'Connell made

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Speaker 1: Josh Dobbs work and throw for three hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: yards without a practice. So the fact that JJ McCarthy

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Speaker 1: is struggling with this coach, that receiving corps, those tight

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Speaker 1: doesn't have a great defense. The Bears defense wasn't very

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Speaker 1: good last year. You know, the Packers defense minus Michael

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Speaker 1: on the back end for years. So I think it's time.

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Speaker 1: It is a skill to acknowledge mistakes. If I mean,

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Speaker 1: the combine, here's Kevin O'Connell discussing the timeline on the

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Speaker 1: For the record, not just a competitive situation, an expensive situation.

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Speaker 1: bring into people say things publicly. They are treading water,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Kings, big party in Lakerland. Sometimes you

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Speaker 1: see video and it's troubling, and Luca had a really

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Speaker 1: bad week last week. Finally people acknowledging some of the

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Speaker 1: So there's video from Saturday night against the Warriors, and

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Speaker 1: Luca not only blows off JJ Reddick, he had to

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Speaker 1: Look at jj Reddick grabs him, Luca won't listen. Jj

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Speaker 1: Reddick barks, which he's prone to do. He walks, he

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Speaker 1: follows him down the bench and then he has words

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a real confrontation right there. And then

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Speaker 1: Lucas stands up and Vanderbilt gets in the way. That

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Speaker 1: is a confrontation. But remember Luca turned thirty, turn pro

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Speaker 1: at thirteen. He made Real Madrid made his debut at sixteen.

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Speaker 1: He was the European MVP at nineteen, all the youngest

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Speaker 1: as ever, So it has been year after year of

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Speaker 1: pandering and worshiping and the other thing with Luca. From

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Speaker 1: has the highest usage rate, So he has been pandered

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Speaker 1: to worshiped. Here's the ball, control the offense. That's why

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Speaker 1: Lebron can't stem the deficiencies Luca has on the defensive end.

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Speaker 1: So you can say whatever you want, but that piece

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Speaker 1: of video is JJ Reddick, not pandering. JJ Reddick Saturday

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Speaker 3: That is a mess.

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Speaker 1: It's real video here, and JJ Reddick follows him right

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Speaker 1: He is not a guy that's going to mince words.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to like him. You can call him arrogant,

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Speaker 1: this is a confrontation. This is JJ Reddick, a confrontation

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Speaker 1: So from thirteen to twenty seven years old, and Luca

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Speaker 1: fourteen years of having the ball in your hands, getting

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Speaker 1: your way, being worshiped, and then last week, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, the media and the fans kind of turned

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Speaker 1: and kind of went, bro, you're kind of bad defensive

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Speaker 1: le You don't play with Lebron, and Lebron plays well

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Speaker 1: with everybody.

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Speaker 3: Here's a JJ Reddick.

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Speaker 1: After that, Warriors win, win on some of the struggles recently.

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Speaker 5: These guys want to do it right. They they're trying.

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Speaker 5: I know our staff myself, we're always looking for answers

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Speaker 5: and solutions, partially just because of the disruption of lineups

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Speaker 5: and different factors. You know, we just haven't had the

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Speaker 5: continuity that I thought we were going to have coming

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Speaker 5: into the year, and it's taken longer than I thought.

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Speaker 5: But I'm confident we're going to get there.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, I will defend JJ Reddick. Lebron

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Speaker 1: missed the first fourteen fifteen games, Austin Reeves missed another

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Speaker 1: fifteen nineteen games. It's not a well constructed roster defensively

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Speaker 1: or from a catch and shoot perspective. They need both,

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Speaker 1: and yet they're kind of competitive with Denver. No, they

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Speaker 1: are not beating good teams. They're hammering the Kings and

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Speaker 1: the playoff picture despite the fact they haven't had Lebron,

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Speaker 1: they haven't had Austin and Reeves for long stretches. Both

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Speaker 1: are back now. But Brian Winhorst famously said after that finals,

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Speaker 1: remember that probably the moment of Brian's career. BW came

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Speaker 1: out and said, after that Finals lost by Dallas, this

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Speaker 1: guy's got a change. It's not going to work. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to be a championship player. You got to

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Speaker 1: commit to being in shape, you got to commit to

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Speaker 1: the defensive end. It is just interesting that in the

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Speaker 1: last week, the media, the fans and now JJ Reddick

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Speaker 1: having a little conferent and reminds me of the first

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks I worked with Jmax. Sometimes I had

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Speaker 1: and I had to give him a set of rules

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Speaker 1: to play by. But I mean, you would admit, you

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Speaker 1: would admit, and I think this. I understand players barking

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Speaker 1: at the refs. I do think that Luka is so

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Speaker 3: And then I get it.

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Speaker 1: Listen, Michael, Jordan Lebron complains a little magic, complained a lot.

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Speaker 1: Michael was obsessive. Luca's sort of in that vein. But

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Speaker 1: just an interesting week in Luca Land.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 7: Of course this was during a win. We have no context,

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Speaker 7: what quarter was this, what just happened. Luca was magnificent

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Speaker 7: all weekend, great last night against the Sacramento Kings, and

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Speaker 7: here you are trying.

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Speaker 6: To stir the pot.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, drama cup, Let's settle down. Yes, the

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Speaker 7: video doesn't look great, but I don't understand how Travis

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Speaker 7: Kelcey and Andy Reider butting heads that's competitive fire. Michael

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Speaker 7: Jordan punches a teammate in practice, that's competitive fire. Luca

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Speaker 7: and JJ Redick jawing Rare's trouble in Lakerland, Like, it

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Speaker 7: just feels like there's such a double standard for my

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Speaker 7: Lakers right now that if they win, hey they beat a.

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Speaker 6: Crap team, who cares? And if they lose, well, the

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Speaker 6: sky's falling. This isn't working. Come on, you gotta be real, callin.

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Speaker 6: We're being a little horse on Luca here.

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Speaker 3: I think we're being honest.

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Speaker 1: And I think until the last ten days, it's been

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Speaker 1: all bouquets and flowers and birds chirping and pots of gold.

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Speaker 1: In the last ten days, people have said I said

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Speaker 1: this for years about Carmelo Anthony. Can anybody address the defense?

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Speaker 1: Can anybody address the fact that he gets hunted in

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Speaker 1: playoff series? Can anybody address the fact that I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's in the greatest shape. That he didn't make

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Speaker 1: players better doesn't mean Carmelo is not a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: I'm not denying the greatness. But you're talking about Andy Reid,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey, and Michael Jordan. Lots of rings, lots of hardware.

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Speaker 1: Luca's great. So therefore the standard for Luca is Dude,

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Speaker 1: you're playing for the Lakers with Lebron Austin reeves, the

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Speaker 1: standard should be high. I mean again, what is the

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Speaker 1: not the Dodger standard, but now the Dodgers owner own

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Speaker 1: Well. The quarterback market in the NFL is like the

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that needs to be noted. One

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Speaker 1: Lane Kiffen does well, look at who ty Simpson's college

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Speaker 3: He's had elite coaching.

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Speaker 1: So I always think that is I mean, listen, Fernando Mendoza, head,

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Speaker 3: So here's Robert mays A.

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Speaker 1: Last week from his podcast on taking a swing and

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Speaker 10: If you don't have a quarterback, just take shots, Just

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Speaker 10: keep taking shots. Tyler Shuck wasn't somebody that people were

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Speaker 10: excited about heading into last year's draft. Necessarily he goes

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Speaker 3: Historically, he looks good.

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Speaker 6: If I were a saintsman, I'd be excited about Tyler Shuck.

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Speaker 10: And so I think that more often than not, it

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Speaker 3: And the other thing is Simpson's smart.

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Speaker 3: J Mack with the news. No, no, no, this is.

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Speaker 2: The herd my news.

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Speaker 7: But must have been some week of boozy weekend in

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Speaker 6: It's fifties. He's going crazy. I love it all right.

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Speaker 7: Let's get started with the NFL trade. Big one just

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Speaker 7: I feel like it was maybe an overpay. I'm a

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Speaker 6: In Juice Scrugs.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 6: I did look up Scruggs.

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Speaker 7: He has not played great so far, second round pick,

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Speaker 1: Houston now will have Montgomery and Woody Marx. That's a

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I mean on paper, callin it sounds good, but we

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty three he had eleven hundred yards thirteen touchdowns.

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Speaker 7: He had four hundred yards less the next two seasons.

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Speaker 6: Okay, but kind of no aging.

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Speaker 3: He's at two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but now Houston can pay attention to their offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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Speaker 3: And that's that's really Their defense is great.

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Speaker 1: They've got their edge rushers, they've got their receivers, they

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Speaker 1: Montgomery's a two. Now they can go fill their offensive line.

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Speaker 1: It gives them total clarity going in the late April

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Speaker 1: for Houston in the draft, I like it for you.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to say Detroit won this more bites at

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Speaker 7: Even though Scruggs hasn't been great. I mean, now he's

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Speaker 7: The culture's better there, I think on the offensive line

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Speaker 7: I've been on this Super Bowl window closing thing. This

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Speaker 3: I believe that.

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Speaker 7: I wonder if it's potentially a jar again. And they're

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Speaker 6: So we'll see what happens there with Detroit, all right.

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Speaker 7: Next up, Albert Brear Colin is reporting from the Combine

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Speaker 7: that Max Crosby could be traded as early as this week.

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Speaker 6: Here are the teams that were mentioned.

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Speaker 7: The Rams, Okay, Eagles got it, Patriots no surprise, Bills, Bears,

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Speaker 7: and wait for it, Colin, the Dallas Cowboys. According to Breer, yes,

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Speaker 7: the Dallas Cowboys could trade for Max Crosby. Now, that

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Speaker 6: Remember, they want two two ones.

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Speaker 7: For Max to get back in bed with an ed

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Speaker 1: The Rams have two first round picks. They want a

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody loves sixcept you. Would you give up?

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Speaker 6: That's what is it? Sixteen? Is that the pick in

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I get that. I'd give up.

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Speaker 1: No, because the Raiders already have the first pick. I

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Speaker 1: I wonder if Crosby's gone silence, So I wonder if

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Speaker 1: any more podcasts?

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Speaker 6: Can you not give out any more fodder? Let's just

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Speaker 7: We'll get this done. Very interesting week coming up in

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Speaker 7: the NFL. Right, the next couple of days are going

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Speaker 1: This is this is fascinating because I'm telling you take

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Speaker 1: out Miles Garrett. My next favorite pass rusher in the league.

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Speaker 1: Is Max Crosby, relentless guy against the run. You know

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Speaker 1: Mike didn't defend the run. Mike is a splash player.

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Speaker 1: Max can defend the run. He is a relentless, impossible

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Speaker 3: I love this.

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Speaker 1: And for the record, if if let's say, for instance,

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Speaker 1: we'll take another number one. What we'd like is another

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Speaker 1: starter defensively, something to think. I just need to check

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Speaker 1: Will and Will Anderson still in the league.

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Speaker 7: The Houston Texans past russ are call Max is not

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Speaker 7: number two.

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Speaker 6: He's good.

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Speaker 2: He's good.

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Speaker 6: He's that too. Come on, all right, let's go. Final story.

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Speaker 6: How about this?

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Speaker 7: My New York Knicks take down the Spurs impressively twenty

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Speaker 7: five point blowout yesterday held Wembian Company to eighty nine points.

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Speaker 7: I'm now a Spurs fan, so I can kind of

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Speaker 7: justify some of the loss. But the Knicks colin our

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Speaker 7: staff put this together. Since January twenty one, they've been

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Speaker 7: one of the best teams in the league. Fourteen and

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Speaker 7: four number one in defense, number one in points per

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Speaker 7: game differential.

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Speaker 6: Knicks are quietly cooking. Everybody's talking Tatum right.

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Speaker 1: I watched this entire game yesterday and by the way,

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Speaker 1: it feels like the Spurs have been on the road

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Speaker 1: a lot. No New York has played. New York's playing

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Speaker 1: very well. Cat played well, they got off to a lead,

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Speaker 1: they pulled away late. Just the Spurs did not have

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Speaker 1: a second gear in the second half. Knicks played very

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Speaker 1: very well. They deserve credit. They played and listen defensively.

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Speaker 1: If Wemby's not hitting threes, he can you know they

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Speaker 1: I know when when be's to be all end all

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Speaker 1: probably the faith of the league. But they moved the

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Speaker 1: ball around. He has possessions where he didn't get a touch.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't hitting on threes, and you look up and

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Speaker 1: they just that was the way to get back for

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Speaker 1: the Spurs and they couldn't.

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Speaker 7: So to justify the Spurs, there's this san Antonio Rodeo.

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Speaker 6: I'm not a Texas guy. I don't know it, but san.

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Speaker 7: Antonio has not played at home since February seventh. I

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Speaker 7: know you're a traveling man. You're on the road for

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Speaker 7: three weeks you're gonna wear down. So the Spurs got

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Speaker 7: blitzed in the fourth quarter, they got run out.

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Speaker 6: Of the gym. They did have two home games in Austin.

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Speaker 7: You know, I don't know how close Austin is to

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Speaker 7: San Antonio off the top of my head, but listen, man,

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Speaker 7: that's a lot of time away from home. They had

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Speaker 7: peeled off ten or eleven straight. Yeah, like, it's not

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Speaker 7: the worst loss in the world. It's a good win

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Speaker 7: for the Knicks, if that makes any sense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was j Mack with the news.

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Speaker 6: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

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Speaker 2: It's the herd lot.

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Speaker 1: I will say, you know, everybody's got the mock drafts.

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Speaker 1: I watched a little bit of the combine. Not a

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Speaker 1: lot top teams don't go, a lot of top players,

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks won't throw. So PFF came out with their mock

485
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Speaker 1: first round pick, and it's interesting. A lot of pushback

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Speaker 1: that Fernando Mendoza is a bit stiff, he's a fine prospect.

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Speaker 1: My take is no, he's he's like a bigger, stronger version.

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Speaker 1: I remember meeting Matt Ryan at the other place in

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Speaker 1: person and thinking, oh, he's a bright guy, is gonna

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Speaker 1: do well. Basically the comp for him is Matt Ryan,

491
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Speaker 1: but he's a legitimate two hundred and forty pounds. Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan looked about two fifteen in college. Maybe he's you know,

493
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Speaker 1: had a couple of gallons of water before the way

494
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Speaker 1: in combine. I don't know, but ask yourself this. In

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Speaker 1: this PFF mock draft first round, only one teammate of

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza, only one a wide receiver late first round.

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Speaker 1: And for the record, that receiver, Omar Cooper's very good

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Speaker 1: in a lot of mock drafts. He's not a first rounder.

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Speaker 1: He's very top of the second round. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Fernando Mendoza beat the Buckeyes, they have five players in

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Speaker 1: the first round. He beat Miami, they have three players

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Speaker 1: in the first round. He beat Oregon, stomped him fifty

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Speaker 1: six twenty two, beat him twice actually, and they have

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Speaker 1: two players in the first round and several other Oregon

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Speaker 1: in the second. So he beat ten first rounders. And

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Speaker 1: if you're just wondering, how did he do against Ohio

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Speaker 1: State Oregon twice in Miami when he played him, he

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Speaker 1: was four to zero, completed sixty seven and a half

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Speaker 1: percent of his throws eight touchdowns, two picks, two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards a game which is thrown. Nobody was thrown for

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Speaker 1: two hundred yards against Ohio State. So, if you're wondering

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Speaker 1: about Fernando Mendoza against the three best teams he played,

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Speaker 1: including Oregon twice, he had one projected first round teammate.

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Speaker 3: Colin, it's about Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 1: Oh. It is because the year before, before Mendoza arrived

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Speaker 1: in Bloomington, Kurt Signetti got beat by three touchdowns by

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Speaker 1: Ohio State, yet beat the Buckeyes with Mendoza, and the

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Speaker 1: year before when he played Notre Dame in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: they trailed at one point twenty seven to three. So

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Speaker 1: all I'm saying is Signetti's a great coach. That's sixteen

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Speaker 1: to zero is about the quarterback. The coach is excellent,

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Speaker 1: but the coach was excellent the year before and they

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Speaker 1: were getting boat raced by Ohio State Notre Dame. So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, here's Fernando from the combine on the

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Speaker 1: Hoosiers success.

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Speaker 8: A lot of them were one score games, had a

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Speaker 8: lot of tough defeats, whether it's forty nine to fifty

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Speaker 8: to USC and Caleb Williams two years ago, whether it

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Speaker 8: was thirty eight to thirty nine to cam Moore to

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Speaker 8: the Miami Hurricanes the past year, I believe a lot

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Speaker 8: of that experience of failing coming up so short has

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Speaker 8: helped me in this new run with Indiana, wherever we've

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Speaker 8: gone him behind and dug ourself in the hole with

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Speaker 8: Penn State, with Oregon, with Iowa, to be able to

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Speaker 8: learn from those failures and make those into successes and

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Speaker 8: then they be able to help my teammates.

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Speaker 1: For the record, he also beat Alabama this year, who

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Speaker 1: has two players in the first round, and he beat

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Speaker 1: Penn State and they have a player in the first round.

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Speaker 1: So if you look at all the teams with first

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Speaker 1: round picks that he played, he's like six to zero

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Speaker 1: and he's completing nearly seventy percent of his throws. And

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Speaker 1: I like signetty, I think he's really good. But in fact,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite parts of Fernando Mendoza is that,

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Speaker 1: and this is something that I think has been true

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Speaker 1: forever with quarterbacks. Got the you know what kicked out

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Speaker 1: of him at cal for two years and that was

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Speaker 1: a real thing two or three years at cal So.

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Speaker 1: At one point Cal had Aaron Rodgers in the league

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Speaker 1: and Jared Goff in the league. They still do, and

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Speaker 1: now they're gonna have Fernando Mendoza in the league, and

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Speaker 1: there's another cow guy. And I think you know, first

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Speaker 1: of all, Cal's a very heady school, so you have

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Speaker 1: to be smart to go there. But the other thing

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Speaker 1: is quarterbacks that play at schools where they don't all

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Speaker 1: have five star receivers. I mean, wouldn't you think Man

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Speaker 1: Alabama must have, Ohio State must have. You know, all

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Speaker 1: these top schools, LSU, they almost have like seven quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: They don't.

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Speaker 1: A lot of quarterbacks come from Big Ben Miami of

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Speaker 1: Ohio Golf and Rogers, Cal, Philip Rivers, Russell Wilson, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: and s State. A lot of that is because you

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Speaker 1: have to elevate teammates. JJ McCarthy had a great coach,

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Speaker 1: a great old line, a great offense. That's not the

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Speaker 1: kind of internship that prepares you for the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter non a em Pacific.

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Speaker 7: The stage is set for a weekend where IndyCar and

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Speaker 7: NASCAR go back to back on one track. Indiecar on

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Speaker 7: Saturday NASCAR. On Sunday from Phoenix Raceway, it's the Desert

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Speaker 7: Double on Fox MJ.

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Speaker 3: His team's won three straight first time ever.

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Speaker 1: So the less perfect your traits are your size is

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Speaker 1: the more perfect you need to be at the combine

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Speaker 1: or on pre draft interviews. So Diego Pavia wildly entertaining

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Speaker 1: quarterback five nine and a half two hundred and five

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Speaker 1: pounds at Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 3: So we're in an era.

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Speaker 1: Last two or three years, it's been a bad time

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Speaker 1: for small quarterbacks. So people now, because of Tua and

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, are in Russell Wilson's quick regression, are out

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Speaker 1: on small quarterbacks. So Diego Pavia. Maybe eight years ago,

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Speaker 1: it was different when Russell Wilson was in his prime

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Speaker 1: and getting guys like Johnny Manziel drafted. But now everybody's

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Speaker 1: out on small quarterbacks, and in my opinion, should be.

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Speaker 1: So this kid's five nine and a half five ten

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Speaker 1: that's about four inches shorter than I want, and he

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Speaker 1: weighs two hundred and five pounds, and he's got a

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Speaker 1: very interesting personality and background, very cocky, kind of a

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Speaker 1: schmuck during the Heisman ceremony, and to further question his judgment.

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Speaker 1: He was asked who's giving him sort of a mentoring

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Speaker 1: him during this process, and he named Johnny Manzel. Here

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Speaker 1: is the young Vanderbilt quarterback.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, he's gaming the giving me the what to look

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Speaker 11: out for, what it's like, how to stay in the process.

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Speaker 11: And you know, he's he's given me some good advice

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Speaker 11: for sure, and he always reaches out to chase a

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Speaker 11: bomby make sure I'm good. And he's just like a

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Speaker 11: He's just a friend to me, you know. And so

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Speaker 11: he's he's giving me some mentorship. He's been around me,

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Speaker 11: He's been around my family. He's just a great person.

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Speaker 11: For those that really don't know.

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel may be a blast and he may be

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Speaker 1: a good time.

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Speaker 3: Does this kid have an agent?

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Speaker 1: THEO Vaughn needs to step in because that is exactly

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Speaker 1: the opposite of what you'd want as your mentor. Because

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Speaker 1: Johnny and Johnny, I've met Johnny. Johnny's a nice guy,

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Speaker 1: Johnny's fun. People like Johnny, but like Pavia, small and cocky.

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Speaker 3: That is not.

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Speaker 1: Who you want, at least publicly being your mentor. Because remember,

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Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel wasn't just you know, a miss I hate

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Speaker 1: the word bust, but he was a miss.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't only a miss, it was how he missed.

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Speaker 1: At one point he was wearing a disguise and a

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Speaker 1: Vegas nightclub in concussion protocol.

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Speaker 3: I wish I was joking.

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Speaker 1: So like you say, Johnny Manziel, and I mean in

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Speaker 1: the NFL offices, it's like, oh yeah, if you just

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Speaker 1: say yeah, he's got a little Johnny Manzel and him,

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Speaker 1: people run for the exits. And again, Johnny could be

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Speaker 1: a great guy.

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Speaker 3: I think he is.

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Speaker 1: I remember one time being in Florida and I had

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Speaker 1: an uber driver and he had taken Johnny Manziel. You know,

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Speaker 1: two days earlier we told Johnny Manzel stories for a

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Speaker 1: half hour on my drive, wildly entertaining guy. Funny, funny, guy,

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Speaker 1: full of a lot of personality. So but not a

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Speaker 1: guy you want as a mentor when you were kind

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Speaker 1: of a schmuck, which this kid from Vanderbilt was at

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Speaker 1: the Heisman ceremony, So yeah, Yi, this is one one

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Speaker 1: of those. And he you know, everybody's now out on

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Speaker 1: small quarterbacks and it's very cyclical. There was a time

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Speaker 1: when height was overvalued, then there's a time recently height

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Speaker 1: is undervalued. I mean, watch this college tape for showing

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Speaker 1: you he looks tiny. He makes Bryce Young look like Wilt.

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Speaker 1: I mean he is small, like at the college level.

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Speaker 1: So I don't love that. I just and I got again,

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Speaker 1: young guy. But when you watch Fernando Mendoza and you

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Speaker 1: listen to Fernando Mendoza, you just hear all this humility

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Speaker 1: and gratitude and you could tell his support systems great.

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Speaker 1: You know, if I was his agent, I just say, listen,

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Speaker 1: you can like Manzielle. I wouldn't bring that stuff up

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Speaker 1: because that just screams watch out. He's a good friend,

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Speaker 1: he's a mentor. Well, then people are going to question

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Speaker 1: your judgment and probably probably have a right to. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of restructuring of contracts coming up and through

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Speaker 1: the years. I have said in terms of when you

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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, and the Seahawks are a recent example,

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Speaker 1: four people more than any other people matter most owner, GM, coach,

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Speaker 1: and quarterback. So through New England's dynasties between Robert Kraft

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Speaker 1: and A Scott Poli and at Bill Belichick and A

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Speaker 1: Brady it was a at worst one of them can

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Speaker 1: be an a minus for a B plus Kansas City's dynasty.

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Speaker 1: It's the Hunt family A mahomes a an he read

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Speaker 1: a Brett Viach A. I would say with the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: the ownership group, the Allen family, despite rumors are going

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Speaker 1: to sell, They've been committed for years, very strong ownership group,

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Speaker 1: GMA coach A. Say what you want about Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: this year. A. Now think about the Cowboys. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for the record, even in this has been going on forever,

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Speaker 1: even to the Niners dynasty edit Eddie D. Bartola, San

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Speaker 1: Francisco A, Bill Walsh, A Montana Young AA Carmen John

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Speaker 1: McVeigh A. You can have a B plus in there.

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Speaker 1: It's all starts at the top in the NFL. So

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Speaker 1: if you look at the Cowboys right now, Jerry has

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Speaker 1: become a C minus ish level owner meddling. He calls

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Speaker 1: himself the GM. Well, therefore he's a D. The coach,

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Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer, I'll be kind C two C minus so

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Speaker 1: DAK right now is a booie like keeping this thing afloat.

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Speaker 1: So Jerry Jones said at the combine he sees the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys being big spenders here he is.

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Speaker 12: I would bet that we will spend more money in

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Speaker 12: free agency than we have. The only way to push

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Speaker 12: more work is for me to go borrow some of

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Speaker 12: my future. Okay, okay, expect me to go borrow some

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Speaker 12: of my future.

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Speaker 1: We have a chart for their free agents right now.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Clark salary Caps moving on up. They have

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Speaker 1: two first round picks, but they don't have a second

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Speaker 1: and a third, so they have got to hit. They

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Speaker 1: have got a hit on defensive players in the first

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Speaker 1: round last ten years. If you look at their highest

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Speaker 1: paid free agents, they you know, they're not necessarily big

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Speaker 1: spenders in free agency because the Cowboys historically they pay

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Speaker 1: their draft picks. So if you go Cowboys highest paid

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Speaker 1: free agent in the last ten years, it's you know,

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Speaker 1: Terrence Williams made nine million. But they're not big spenders

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Speaker 1: in free agency. You think of Jerry the Oil Maverick

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Speaker 1: as a wild spender.

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Speaker 3: He's not. He really isn't.

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Speaker 1: They draft and then sign to validate their draft picks.

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Speaker 1: They sign their own guys. So I look at all

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Speaker 1: these draft picks. If I was Dallas, I'd like about

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Speaker 1: four of these guys. Kate Otton at tight end, I

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Speaker 1: think he'd be a great one or two tight end.

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Speaker 1: I would love the center Tyler linder Bab but he's

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Speaker 1: a fortune so.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's one.

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Speaker 1: Thing for Jerry to say we're going to spend, but

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Speaker 1: the history is they do not spend in free agency.

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Speaker 1: They draft kids and then tend to overpay him. And

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Speaker 1: that's where we're at. So Colin right, Colin wrong. Matt

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Speaker 1: Hasselbeck this weekend, combine, he worked with a lot of

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Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, including ty Simpson. So excited to hear what

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselbeck did this weekend. J Mac is assaulting today

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Speaker 1: a little after the punishment we offered for a Luca.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice weekend for the Lakers. They beat

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Speaker 1: a very bad Warrior team and the Kings of the

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Speaker 1: worst organization in the league. But they did they. I

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Speaker 1: will say this, I watched the Nuggets yesterday too. They

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Speaker 1: are what are they back of the Nuggets? Like half

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Speaker 1: a game or game?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and they're only one and a half back of

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Speaker 7: the Rockets for the three seed. So despite the sk

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Speaker 7: is falling narrative, the reality is, hey, all they got

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Speaker 7: to do is I mean they got Denver this week,

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Speaker 7: so we get we get Deminatan or whatever his nick

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Speaker 7: name is. What is DeAndre Adan's nickname Dominatan against Jokich

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Speaker 7: that should be a fun matchup. And Luca against you know,

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Speaker 7: Christian Brown. I think the Lakers need to win that game.

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Speaker 7: That's a big one for them, and they face two

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Speaker 7: tanking teams, They're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 6: Totally fine.

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Speaker 3: Colin right, Colin wrong.

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Speaker 1: Top of Next Hour on a Monday, good combine. First hour,

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback next the Hurd