Speaker 1: Are you watching film of fighting guys like guys that
Speaker 1: you potentially fight, Like I know this guy, he's gonna
Speaker 1: pull my jersey, probably give me a right hook or something.
Speaker 2: So fortunately enough for me at the time where I
Speaker 2: started doing it, like YouTube was a thing and I
Speaker 2: could study that way where the olden days they had
Speaker 2: to find like the VHS tapes. And also fortunately for me,
Speaker 2: when I was in the NHL, I wasn't having to
Speaker 2: scrap the old fighters of the past where they would
Speaker 2: grab on and they would just go punch in the
Speaker 2: face match where there was no defense none.
Speaker 3: It was I watch it every time, like these guys
Speaker 3: take two or three off the face and just keep going.
Speaker 2: And I was more of a defensive fighter where you
Speaker 2: look back and I'm just so grateful if I was
Speaker 2: playing in the seventies, like my nose would be on
Speaker 2: the other side of my head, ye, and I probably
Speaker 2: would be like eating through a two at this point.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Games with Names.
Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler, and we are
Speaker 1: on a mission to find the greatest game of all time.
Speaker 1: And on today's episode, we're covering the Fresh four Nations
Speaker 1: final USA versus Canada with former NHL winger, host of
Speaker 1: Spitting chick Lits and the man they call biz Nasty,
Speaker 1: Paul Bizanette, and we get into talking this Canada America rivalry.
Speaker 2: When you guys came into our building and you punched
Speaker 2: us in the face and then won that game, we
Speaker 2: needed a response. This isn't over. This is just the beginning.
Speaker 3: The craft of fighting in hockey.
Speaker 2: I would go on the ice, top him on the
Speaker 2: shin pads and say, hey, let's go mother. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to provide a spark to our team, like let's get
Speaker 2: this crowd into it and let's get going.
Speaker 3: And what it's like to play with Sydney Crosby, one
Speaker 3: of the.
Speaker 2: Goats, playing with a guy who was obsessed with the
Speaker 2: game and if the level wasn't at the level he
Speaker 2: would be barking.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about our night at skate for La
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Speaker 1: stick around to the very end. Let's Go Games with
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Speaker 3: February twenty first, twenty twenty five td GTTEN, Boston, Massachusetts.
Speaker 3: The tournament is new, but the rivalry is as old
Speaker 3: as it gets the best of America versus the best
Speaker 3: of Canada.
Speaker 2: This is the Four Nations Final.
Speaker 1: Today, we have a very special guest and we are
Speaker 1: looking at probably one of the most crazy. It's the
Speaker 1: craziest popular All Star event I've ever witnessed. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the Four Nations face off championship game between
Speaker 1: Canada and the US with the one and only Paul
Speaker 1: Bizinette in one sentence, why did you pick this game?
Speaker 2: Well, I kind of want to pick both, not only
Speaker 2: the championship game, but the round robin game that had
Speaker 2: three fights in the first nine seconds, so we can
Speaker 2: kind of go all over the board. But what an
Speaker 2: amazing time for hockey right now. It's just on an
Speaker 2: absolute heater, not only the Four Nations, but now all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you go back to regular season and
Speaker 2: Ovechin gets a hat trick in his second game back
Speaker 2: after the break, where he's thirteen goals away from breaking
Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky's goal record.
Speaker 4: Who would have ever fucking thought.
Speaker 3: So, I'm not a hockey guy and I'd never even
Speaker 3: thought that would happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 2: It's That's why I just feel like there's so many
Speaker 2: casual sports fans right now that have become addicted to
Speaker 2: hockey just based on, you know, the energy that guys
Speaker 2: are putting into it, you know how they're so relatable,
Speaker 2: and of course just the action. It's eighty two games,
Speaker 2: but guys show up much like football guys. It's like
Speaker 2: they put on the gear and they're ready to go.
Speaker 2: And regardless of it being a quote unquote all star
Speaker 2: format at the Four Nations, these guys were scrapping for
Speaker 2: each other's countries.
Speaker 3: Was this the greatest game of all time? So?
Speaker 2: I would say that this championship game will go down
Speaker 2: at least as one of my favorites. As far as
Speaker 2: a rating standpoint, it was the most viewed non Olympic
Speaker 2: game in hockey's history. So for what it did for
Speaker 2: the game and the way that it just kind of
Speaker 2: reached out for our sport, I would probably put it
Speaker 2: as my number one. At this point. That might be
Speaker 2: recency bias. A lot of people might be shaking their head,
Speaker 2: but I can't, off the top of my head think
Speaker 2: of a more anticipated game in my lifetime.
Speaker 3: As a casual puckhead. I couldn't agree with you.
Speaker 1: More cultural impact of this specific game I mean, we're
Speaker 1: not even going to get to see how big it's
Speaker 1: going to create because we're so fucking fresh off of it.
Speaker 1: But like that put the All Star weekend basketball, it like.
Speaker 3: Slapped that down, Like it was like the step son,
Speaker 3: the redheaded step son. And it also it made me,
Speaker 3: as a football player, be disappointed in our All Star
Speaker 3: Game and our Pro Bowl shit, whatever our activities. And
Speaker 3: it has to do with how the players came out
Speaker 3: and fucking showed up. Man, It's one thing I've always
Speaker 3: admired about the hockey boys. Yeah, like they're just they're
Speaker 3: fucking a bunch a group of dudes that like to
Speaker 3: work hard, drink beer, fuck with each other bus balls,
Speaker 3: hate each other in between the ice, but then be
Speaker 3: able to enjoy a pine after. Man, it's fucking this
Speaker 3: was fucking awesome.
Speaker 2: Hockey culture is a very special place, and like even
Speaker 2: the reason I'm in town is because I played with
Speaker 2: the La Kings organization. They had a ten year anniversary
Speaker 2: for our Calder Cup winning the Miners. But it just
Speaker 2: so happens that they threw this this charity event in
Speaker 2: the last four weeks they put it together and it
Speaker 2: was for all the victims of the fires. Yeah, people
Speaker 2: who displaced from their homes obviously the first responders in
Speaker 2: la FD, so they were able to do this. So
Speaker 2: just the hockey community coming together along with celebrities. It's
Speaker 2: just an awesome culture and it's continuing to thrive, and
Speaker 2: it just so happens it was on NBA All Star weekend,
Speaker 2: So I just feel like all the world's collided where
Speaker 2: everybody wanted to shit on the NBA and maybe some
Speaker 2: of their stars attitude towards showing up for the full
Speaker 2: eighty two game season, and then the way that hockey
Speaker 2: really treated this four nation's face off. So it was
Speaker 2: an incredible, credible event. And as I were, you dialed
Speaker 2: in the whole time, like, did you watch the full
Speaker 2: sixty minutes of the final?
Speaker 3: I watched.
Speaker 1: I watched the first two goals and I was sidetracked,
Speaker 1: and then I got back into overtime and I saw
Speaker 1: fucking mcjesus.
Speaker 3: I mean, he wouldn't even do anything all game. And
Speaker 3: I don't know it that well.
Speaker 4: I'm what were you sidetracked with?
Speaker 3: I was? I don't know. I think it was like
Speaker 3: eating a brito or I.
Speaker 5: Feel like you have add like terrible I thinks I
Speaker 5: think you were sending memes during the third period.
Speaker 3: I was maybe setting memes about the game to my
Speaker 3: friend talking ship all my fucking Canadian friends. We got this.
Speaker 3: Yeah it didn't work out. No, no, it didn't. It
Speaker 3: didn't work.
Speaker 4: Jesus came through.
Speaker 2: He needed, uh, he needed a moment like that because, uh,
Speaker 2: maybe there's a little criticism on whether he can win
Speaker 2: the big one, but I think that will catapult him.
Speaker 2: And they have a very strong team in Edmonton, so
Speaker 2: they might they might be hoisting the Stanley Cup this year.
Speaker 2: I'd like to see that for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into the teams. But how how cool
Speaker 1: was that l a skate yesterday? You know, like just.
Speaker 3: Well, you know I got to see you know, Uncle Snoop,
Speaker 3: my little I brought my daughter and she was just
Speaker 3: in in in an awe of Snoop will Ferrell.
Speaker 1: She thinks his elf. Uh, and she did a little
Speaker 1: high We were sitting on the glass and and Beebes
Speaker 1: gave her a little high five. She almost Yeah, she
Speaker 1: had a and we got a puck from uh who
Speaker 1: was Eric Armstrong? Armstrong Armstrong gave us a puck. You
Speaker 1: know what, I had so much fun watching the old boys,
Speaker 1: like just hockey guys, likes like they didn't lose any
Speaker 1: of it, Like they may have lost explosion, but they
Speaker 1: could still go out and fucking play like that was
Speaker 1: so cool to watch him.
Speaker 5: And Mess is working out every morning. He has a
Speaker 5: fucking machine.
Speaker 2: I think he could still play in the league, especially
Speaker 2: for how soft some of these guys are nowadays, that
Speaker 2: he would, he would still run show. And uh, he's
Speaker 2: just such a great ambassador for a game. And even
Speaker 2: after the career he had kind of like you, he
Speaker 2: transitioned into media and he's crushing on ESPN.
Speaker 4: PK. Sue Ben was there.
Speaker 2: Looked a little rusty last night. Who messeddk oh PK. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well he's too busy doing all the media. He probably
Speaker 2: doesn't hop on the skates much anymore.
Speaker 3: So you lose it. You lose it if you're not
Speaker 3: on the skates.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Hockey is the one thing where you could
Speaker 2: run and work out twice a day. But if you're
Speaker 2: not on your edges and on your blades, it's just
Speaker 2: little little must groups that you just have a real
Speaker 2: hard time finding if you're not on the ice. And
Speaker 2: for me, I tore both my acls and my last season,
Speaker 2: so I haven't really stayed in both.
Speaker 5: Buddy, both I tore my no on one play no
Speaker 5: I tore.
Speaker 4: I tore my right one.
Speaker 2: Of all that, that's a real bender right there, man,
Speaker 2: that's like an official vendor status.
Speaker 4: So I was trying.
Speaker 2: To keep up to these young guys, right the game
Speaker 2: is constantly evolving, the players are getting faster and faster.
Speaker 2: So I tore my right one, and I knew it
Speaker 2: was going to be my last year, so I prehabbed
Speaker 2: it to try to come back and finish the season.
Speaker 2: So finally did so, came back, tweaked it again the
Speaker 2: first game back. Took another like month to prehabit. Came
Speaker 2: back in my first game back. Were in San Jose.
Speaker 2: Playned the Barracuda and that's the San Jose Sharks farm team.
Speaker 2: They have like one hundred people in the crowd. I
Speaker 2: go to battle for a puck and then boom on
Speaker 2: the other side, and I felt it go and I'll
Speaker 2: never forget. I went over to the trainer who'd been
Speaker 2: helping me prehab the other one. I go, mearsy, I
Speaker 2: think I just tore my other acl. He goes, what
Speaker 2: the fuck are you talking about there's no way. So
Speaker 2: I sat on the bench the rest of that period
Speaker 2: went in between. He looked at it and he's like, gone,
Speaker 2: mcl a cl So I'm walking around with two torn acls.
Speaker 2: I ended up getting surgery in my left after the
Speaker 2: season and that was it. Never even bothered repairing my right.
Speaker 2: So it was a tough way to go. I actually,
Speaker 2: once I tore it, I'm like, fuck it. I got
Speaker 2: to make myself useful. So I fought this Zach Stirteini guy.
Speaker 2: I was like, I was like Bambi out there. I
Speaker 2: could barely stand up. But I figured I'd make myself
Speaker 2: useful and I'll never forget my head coach, who i'd
Speaker 2: won a championship that I mentioned earlier with the Calder
Speaker 2: Cup played for him in junior, and he came into
Speaker 2: the trainer's room and he's like, what's what's going on.
Speaker 2: I go STATSI I tore the other one and we
Speaker 2: had we shedded a tier. It was sad because I
Speaker 2: knew my career was over, but it was a pretty
Speaker 2: Uh it's just funny that that's the way that my
Speaker 2: career ended.
Speaker 3: It was very just a plug, you.
Speaker 2: Know, press box junkie when I played in the NHL
Speaker 2: and just kind of going out in style.
Speaker 1: I guess you went till the wheels fell off literally
Speaker 1: literally literally Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you gotta fight on the way out.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing that impresses me is the balance
Speaker 1: that you guys have when you're fighting, because fighting on
Speaker 1: ground is tough. Yeah, when you're fighting on fucking skates,
Speaker 1: like it's that's crazy. Which celebrity did you think had
Speaker 1: the best game last night?
Speaker 2: I actually think Bieber is pretty silky. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: he's he's got a little bit of the ankle bender going,
Speaker 2: but he's got silky mits. So I would probably put
Speaker 2: him at the top of the list.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He just needs to work on his toughness. Although I
Speaker 2: think that Jeremy Roona kind of let him win that
Speaker 2: fight to get his confidence going. But uh, just cool
Speaker 2: the fact that he was there.
Speaker 3: Roner, could he would have hit If he would have
Speaker 3: hit Bieber, I mean that could have been bad for
Speaker 3: every little girl in his family. They would have hated.
Speaker 4: Him, They would have definitely disowned him.
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, wife and all for Yeah, but uh, I
Speaker 2: mean just going back to the four Nations and like
Speaker 2: even the scrapping, Like, I don't know if you know
Speaker 2: the Kuchuck brothers at all.
Speaker 3: I don't know them personally.
Speaker 4: Boston guys.
Speaker 3: Boston guys.
Speaker 1: I know them though what they dad was a Boston
Speaker 1: guy and they were everywhere because of the dead.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Did you hear about the round robin game.
Speaker 2: And how they fought in the first three? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: how they basically pre planned that?
Speaker 3: Now, how they do that? Explain that?
Speaker 2: So we were in Montreal, the mecca hockey of the world,
Speaker 2: and like rumblings were coming out that they had said
Speaker 2: that they were going to turn the Bell Center upside down.
Speaker 2: The Kuchucks had already said that. So obviously we're going
Speaker 2: in with the anticipation that there's going to be like
Speaker 2: a lot of hits. It's going to be a very
Speaker 2: intense game. By no means did we expect them to
Speaker 2: drop the gloves off the opening face off. So then
Speaker 2: the melee ensues right off the opening drop. Matthew Kuchuck
Speaker 2: ends up fighting Brandon Hegel. Then three seconds later, his brother,
Speaker 2: Brady Kuchuck ends up fighting Matthew's teammate Sam Bennett, who's
Speaker 2: very close with So holy shit, we got two scraps.
Speaker 2: This is pretty much start to a hockey game of
Speaker 2: all time and then boom another one.
Speaker 4: JT. Miller goes after Parenko.
Speaker 2: So after the game and the postgame press conference, they
Speaker 2: said that they had a text chain going that said, Hey,
Speaker 2: let's fucking get this thing going tonight. So they had
Speaker 2: essentially pre planned it, the three of them, and they
Speaker 2: got the fireworks started, and it was a great rest
Speaker 2: of the game. Like Charlie McAvoy under Boston Boy, he
Speaker 2: was laying out McDavid and that really is what propelled
Speaker 2: the conversation to what ended up being the finals. So
Speaker 2: you could either go to the championship game that got
Speaker 2: over sixty million viewers, but I, for me, I look
Speaker 2: back at that WWE style start to the round robin
Speaker 2: game to what propelled the hockey and where it's at
Speaker 2: in the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: Now without a doubt.
Speaker 1: I mean, those that three fight game that put in
Speaker 1: everyone's radar, what the fuck is this for nations thing?
Speaker 2: And the fact that like you know, football is over right,
Speaker 2: Football is a juggernaut. There's no taking viewership away from that.
Speaker 2: Butter with the Super Bowl and not really much going
Speaker 2: on with the NBA, I mean, other than like the
Speaker 2: shitty All Star game they got going, everybody's just craving
Speaker 2: some type of sport. So the timing of it all
Speaker 2: was just perfect for the NHL. And by the start
Speaker 2: of the game to the end of the game, it
Speaker 2: was the conversation on Twitter. It's all anybody was talking about,
Speaker 2: even if they knew nothing about hockey. They were just
Speaker 2: so invested in the hatred between USA and Canada, which
Speaker 2: at this point you could obviously put the Russians, the Swedes,
Speaker 2: and the Fins at the top of the list, but
Speaker 2: the two leading hockey nations in the world right now
Speaker 2: are in North America, and it's exciting times.
Speaker 1: It is exciting times. It's really fun as an American
Speaker 1: to see that we're even put into that sentence, because
Speaker 1: you know how Canada fucking loves their hockey, love it.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's their sport.
Speaker 2: I don't think there's probably a lot of Americans watching
Speaker 2: this right now. I don't think people understand how important
Speaker 2: that was from a moral perspective. I think right now,
Speaker 2: from an economy perspective, Canada's in a bit of a dip.
Speaker 2: Leadership will be changing, you know, I don't I don't
Speaker 2: get into politics too much. Like I took the fifty
Speaker 2: first state comments and then the tariff things as like
Speaker 2: more like chirps from Trump and we're a very sensitive nation.
Speaker 2: So I think that that just really propelled the political
Speaker 2: climate of the game. And then the booing of the anthems.
Speaker 2: So it was the perfect amount of political spice for
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 4: Not too much.
Speaker 2: And I don't like politics and sports like to be overbearing.
Speaker 1: Without a doubt, And we'll get more into the game.
Speaker 1: But take us through your journey, your hockey journey. You
Speaker 1: played twelve years. You battled back and forth from you know,
Speaker 1: the triple As to the big I'm sorry if I
Speaker 1: I fowed up the terminology, yeah, and so take us
Speaker 1: through your journey.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I was a pretty decent junior player. I was
Speaker 5: a defenceman.
Speaker 2: I actually was able to represent my country playing under
Speaker 2: seventeen for Team Ontario and then under eighteen was Team Canada.
Speaker 2: I played both of them World Championship, was able to
Speaker 2: win gold both times. Was drafted by the Pittsburgh Penguins
Speaker 2: and got in a little bit of trouble early on
Speaker 2: in my career. Like you go from living with a
Speaker 2: billet family and junior to all of a sudden, you
Speaker 2: sign a contract, you have money, you're living on your own,
Speaker 2: and you know, probably was drinking and partying a little
Speaker 2: bit too much.
Speaker 4: So I started off my career.
Speaker 2: And professional in the EHL, basically the lowest league, and
Speaker 2: slowly worked my way up, and after getting in a
Speaker 2: little bit more trouble, basically was in the coast and
Speaker 2: thought my career was over. And then from at that
Speaker 2: point I was a defenseman and they called me up
Speaker 2: to the AHL and they said, we're going to make
Speaker 2: you a fourth line fighter. And I had a decision
Speaker 2: to make at that point in time whether I wanted
Speaker 2: to do that or stay stubborn and stay as a defenseman.
Speaker 2: And I said, you know, fuck it, If this is
Speaker 2: my only path to maybe get into the NHL, I'll
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: So I started scrapping. I got beat up a lot.
Speaker 2: I had back to back seasons where I fought thirty times,
Speaker 2: and guys at that time in the A were taking steroids.
Speaker 2: I was getting shit kicked out of myself, and eventually,
Speaker 2: just from playing that position and sticking at it, I
Speaker 2: ended up finally making the bigs with Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: And I got to team make it though unreal.
Speaker 2: I got to play with Sidney Crossy, have Genny malk
Speaker 2: and Marc Andre Fleury. You know, just those memories alone
Speaker 2: were unbelievable, even though I was only there for about
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six games, played fifteen and then the following season,
Speaker 2: I was old enough where I got sent down, but
Speaker 2: I could get picked up by Waivers, so I got
Speaker 2: to go over to Phoenix, who put in acclaim for
Speaker 2: me and played.
Speaker 4: Five years there, lived out my dream.
Speaker 2: Ended up starting Twitter when I was there, and that's
Speaker 2: where the whole social media career started and then ended
Speaker 2: up finishing off my career in the American Hockey League.
Speaker 2: So I was one of those guys where I was
Speaker 2: a borderline NHLer and I was just grateful to be
Speaker 2: there and was able to play with so many amazing
Speaker 2: teammates and made so many friends in Arizona, one of
Speaker 2: which is another Boston guy, keith Yandle who's now on
Speaker 2: our Spit and Chiccklets podcast. But yeah, it was a whirldwin.
Speaker 2: Grateful to be there and just grateful to transition it
Speaker 2: into media and stick around the game and also.
Speaker 4: Have a purpose after my playing career yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean you clearly did that. I mean you still
Speaker 1: played twelve years at a professional sport. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: you did something amazing where you didn't just become a
Speaker 1: Canadian kid that went back to the house and did
Speaker 1: nothing with no with his life. You did something else
Speaker 1: and now you're known for something else other than being
Speaker 1: an athlete.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always interested in more and what life has
Speaker 2: to offer. So as much as I love my hometown
Speaker 2: of well In, Ontario, I always knew there was more
Speaker 2: out there and more I wanted to do the same.
Speaker 2: Reason why at sixteen years old when I was drafted
Speaker 2: to junior, like I moved away from home and I
Speaker 2: lived at the Bill family. I never even called home
Speaker 2: for the first three weeks while we had training camp
Speaker 2: and stuff, like I dove right in. I didn't get
Speaker 2: home stick because I knew that, you know, if you
Speaker 2: wanted to achieve anything in life, you were going to
Speaker 2: have to, you know, go outside your comfort zone and
Speaker 2: do it. And I was also like things happened for
Speaker 2: a reason too, Like I was in Pittsburgh, which is
Speaker 2: a you know, a very respected organization, and not to
Speaker 2: say Arizona wasn't but Arizona was was a team where
Speaker 2: they didn't mind getting any type of publicity. So I
Speaker 2: was able to start out a Twitter account and be
Speaker 2: an absolute donkey online, like with the shit that I
Speaker 2: was doing and saying and tweeting. I was going on
Speaker 2: Lake local radio stations and like, they hooked me up
Speaker 2: with this girl, Bibby Jones, So I guess I'm actually
Speaker 2: Eskimo Brothers with Gronk. I hate to throw them under
Speaker 2: the bus, but she actually posted a she actually posted
Speaker 2: a photo of them, and then she asked me for
Speaker 2: a photo to post and I was like, I don't
Speaker 2: think I want that smoke right, And then she went
Speaker 2: on the local radio the next morning and put me
Speaker 2: on blast.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just all what year is this?
Speaker 2: Oh this is probably like two thousand and eleven. So
Speaker 2: so the shit that I was able to get away
Speaker 2: with and droll my own personal social channels based on
Speaker 2: playing in Arizona and the fact that they wanted publicity,
Speaker 2: it just worked out perfectly. And that's kind of what
Speaker 2: got me my start into the media, where I started
Speaker 2: getting more opportunities and offers to do these one off videos.
Speaker 2: And then by the time I retired, I got my
Speaker 2: buddy here, Pasha. I dove right into it. I did
Speaker 2: this film project called Biz DOESBC. So, yeah, is it awkward?
Speaker 2: And it was, you know, it was very silly at
Speaker 2: the time, but it taught me a lot about what
Speaker 2: I needed to know in the backside after retiring. So
Speaker 2: just a world win of a career in a transition,
Speaker 2: But wouldn't change it for the world.
Speaker 3: Fucking it's been fun to I didn't.
Speaker 2: Have the playing career that you had. I was in
Speaker 2: the press box more. I had more healthy scratches in
Speaker 2: my career than games played.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, still you still made do with what
Speaker 3: you had. That's it, and that's what you could continue
Speaker 3: to preach when you talk.
Speaker 2: And it's also a lesson for like a lot of
Speaker 2: kids out there, Like everybody drafted when they're playing junior,
Speaker 2: we're probably the stars of their team, right Yeah, but
Speaker 2: you know at a certain point you're not going to
Speaker 2: be the star and you have to make a sacrifice.
Speaker 2: Are you okay being the fourth line peasant who's getting
Speaker 2: healthy scratched. If you're not willing to put your ego aside,
Speaker 2: there's other guys who will, and there's positions for those guys.
Speaker 2: So I'm glad at the time I was able to
Speaker 2: make that decision. It just kind of happened naturally, like
Speaker 2: I you know, who knows. Maybe going back, if it
Speaker 2: would have happened again it was the wrong day, maybe
Speaker 2: I would have been stubborn about it, but just grateful
Speaker 2: that that's the path I chose and I was accepting
Speaker 2: of that and it led to all this.
Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize is the different ego slots
Speaker 1: in the locker room for a professional athlete. Being a
Speaker 1: role player, you have to swallow your pride, do everything,
Speaker 1: have mental toughness, do what's best for the team, win
Speaker 1: it may not be best for you, and be that
Speaker 1: role guy and love doing that. The fullback going out
Speaker 1: and blowing out his head every day in practice, like
Speaker 1: knowing that he'll never touch the ball, but that's just
Speaker 1: like that's a big thing. How like talk us through
Speaker 1: that transition mentally when you go from defenceman to fourth
Speaker 1: line fighter, Like, and how does that transition go?
Speaker 3: Do did you go to boxing camp?
Speaker 5: Or like?
Speaker 3: How the fuck?
Speaker 2: So? When I, even when I was playing junior, I
Speaker 2: liked handling my own business. Yeah, but that would be
Speaker 2: about five six times a year and normally against other
Speaker 2: guys who were playing more so they weren't like just
Speaker 2: specifically heavyweight scrappers. So it was hard just because I
Speaker 2: was getting used to fighting these guys who, like some
Speaker 2: guys were on steroids and they were just a lot
Speaker 2: more experience, have been doing it since they were kids.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I took boxing lessons in the summertime and
Speaker 2: prepared as much as possible, but it was hard, and
Speaker 2: at that time, like there was no social media, so
Speaker 2: you were getting there was really no way to escape it.
Speaker 2: You'd get beat up, you'd get on the bus, you'd
Speaker 2: travel four hours that night to the next city, and
Speaker 2: you kind of just be sitting there in your seat
Speaker 2: like half concussed, you know, wondering like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: I got to do this again tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: And so it was definitely a transition and a hard
Speaker 2: process to start to understand. But it just taught me
Speaker 2: a lot about like adversity and how to deal with
Speaker 2: that type of stuff and really prepared me for what
Speaker 2: was to come for.
Speaker 4: After my career.
Speaker 2: So great life lessons to learn, like getting the shit
Speaker 2: kicked out of yourself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you got to walk us beat for beat
Speaker 1: on how a fight goes down in hockey as casual
Speaker 1: as casual, like, is it a fucking look?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Are you guys talking to each other on the ice?
Speaker 1: Is it like just is it just drop them in?
Speaker 1: Fucking go?
Speaker 3: So what is this? Walk us through this?
Speaker 2: So the reason I love to do it the most
Speaker 2: was to protect my teammates, especially when they were being
Speaker 2: taken advantage of. And that was the one thing that
Speaker 2: made it a lot easier when I was going through
Speaker 2: all that. And you know, fighting three thirty times a
Speaker 2: year for the first time, is how appreciative your teammates are.
Speaker 2: And so you know, let's say one of our skill
Speaker 2: players gets ran by one.
Speaker 4: Of these types of players.
Speaker 3: It's what ran.
Speaker 2: Like, Let's say he goes back for a puck and
Speaker 2: that guy takes a run and I'm like, lays out
Speaker 2: a big hit on him, Like there's nothing more than
Speaker 2: I want to get on the ice and go challenge
Speaker 2: that guy to get retribution for that hit he just
Speaker 2: throw through or if he's like slashing him and trying
Speaker 2: to take advantage of him. So that to me is
Speaker 2: where I would go on the ice, tap him on
Speaker 2: the shin pads and say, hey, let's go, motherfucker.
Speaker 4: Or maybe you.
Speaker 2: Know, we were down three to one at home, and
Speaker 2: you know, the energy and the building is flat and
Speaker 2: our guys aren't really going. I'm trying to provide a
Speaker 2: spark to our team, like let's get this fucking crowd
Speaker 2: into it and let's get going. That would be another
Speaker 2: time where I would line up at a face off
Speaker 2: and ask a guy to go. So most of the
Speaker 2: time it was just tapping a guy in the shin
Speaker 2: pads and saying, hey, let's let's throw down.
Speaker 3: And what do they ever say now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, typically if your team's ahead, you don't want
Speaker 2: to lose momentum, so.
Speaker 3: You don't want to get the power play, you don't
Speaker 3: want to get pedaled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because especially if I'm chasing around the ice and
Speaker 2: I'm tapping him on the shin pads, then I would
Speaker 2: have gotten an instigator penalty. You have to be a
Speaker 2: little bit more subtle about it, where like you're like off,
Speaker 2: a face off is when you just verbally say hey,
Speaker 2: you want one, And half the time a guy who
Speaker 2: had whose team has a lead, will be like, no,
Speaker 2: coach said no. Coach said no, And my coach would
Speaker 2: say the same thing to me, you go a biz,
Speaker 2: we got all the momentum, leave it alone. And it
Speaker 2: sucked because sometimes the guy would be tapping on the
Speaker 2: shin pad and and kind of calling you out in
Speaker 2: front of your crowd. And some people they don't give
Speaker 2: a fuck about the momentum. They paid for their ticket
Speaker 2: and they want to see people get their face punched in,
Speaker 2: So that sucked. But oftentimes, and that guy, if he
Speaker 2: really wanted one, then he would take a run at
Speaker 2: one of my teammates and then it was like, okay,
Speaker 2: now it's no more questions asked.
Speaker 4: We're fucking going yeah.
Speaker 1: Now what's the difference between a fighter and an agitator?
Speaker 1: Because we just had Sean Avery on yes, and I
Speaker 1: just want to clarify talk.
Speaker 4: About another guy who had a great transition out of playing.
Speaker 3: He's fucking doing another Nolan movie.
Speaker 4: He is. He is an unreal ad. He's he's very
Speaker 4: disciplined to.
Speaker 1: He's part of my neighborhood watch for my daughter's house.
Speaker 1: He lives in the same neighborhood. And so remember that
Speaker 1: TMZ TMZ video that came out of him yelling at
Speaker 1: the kid yes, and that was right by my house.
Speaker 1: No ship yeah, he's gotten in a few Donnie Brooks
Speaker 1: off the Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got I.
Speaker 3: Love having him up there. But it makes my kid
Speaker 3: feel safe. And he's doing all the jiu jitsu stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's like godd he's pretty to be an agitator, though
Speaker 3: he was.
Speaker 2: He was probably one of the best ever to agitate.
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you had him on recently he
Speaker 2: talked about the bro Dure stuff. Sean would say some
Speaker 2: insane ship to people on pace, like places that I
Speaker 2: would not go if like if if Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: some of the ship he said.
Speaker 4: Your jaw would drop and you'd be like, oh my god.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be in a relationship if I
Speaker 2: was playing against Sean Avery Like, I might even divorce
Speaker 2: my wife before I played against him, just to avoid
Speaker 2: the type of insults that he would throw. But he
Speaker 2: was very good at like picking his spots and then
Speaker 2: knowing when to rile the other team up and then
Speaker 2: not fighting. So he was a master of his craft.
Speaker 2: I don't think he left the league with a ton
Speaker 2: of friends, but I don't also think he gives a shit.
Speaker 4: He runs a tight ship. He's got a tight group,
Speaker 4: and that's all he cares about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the fighter and the agitator is different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like he he was also a very good player
Speaker 2: when he focused on playing.
Speaker 3: I think he could.
Speaker 2: He was a very reliable third line player, and even
Speaker 2: in some cases he could go up and down the lineup,
Speaker 2: like if you needed Sean to play on the first
Speaker 2: line for a night, he could fit in. Maybe not
Speaker 2: sustainably for a twenty game stretch, but for me, I
Speaker 2: was just more of a knuckle dragger. Where I mean,
Speaker 2: the most minutes I ever played in the game, I'll
Speaker 2: never forget it. It was eleven minutes in Edmonton. I
Speaker 2: had to assist that game, and I felt like I
Speaker 2: needed to be in a body cast the next day
Speaker 2: because even playing eleven minutes and keeping up to these
Speaker 2: world class athletes like that was my not my jam.
Speaker 2: So I was comfortable with my five to six minutes
Speaker 2: knuckle dragon fourth line. Dump it in, dump it out, Ay, boys,
Speaker 2: change it up, let's go.
Speaker 1: Are you watching film of fighting guys like guys that
Speaker 1: you potentially fight, like I know this guy, he's gonna
Speaker 1: pull my jersey, probably give me a right hook or something.
Speaker 2: So fortunately enough for me at the time where I
Speaker 2: started doing it like YouTube was a thing and starting lowly,
Speaker 2: social media started coming in, so I could study that
Speaker 2: way where the olden days they had to find like
Speaker 2: the VHS tapes and cutups. And also I started fighting
Speaker 2: in a time where like the American League actually probably
Speaker 2: had more of the tough guys in the NHL because
Speaker 2: they were slowly weeding out that style in the NHL,
Speaker 2: where now it's a lot more organic and there's not
Speaker 2: as many heavyweights, like guys like Tom Wilson are still
Speaker 2: very efficient because they can play and their heavyweights. So
Speaker 2: fortunately for me when I was in the NHL, I
Speaker 2: wasn't having to scrap the old fighters of the past
Speaker 2: where they would grab on and they would just go
Speaker 2: punch in the face match where there was no defense none.
Speaker 3: It was I watch it every time, like these guys
Speaker 3: take fucking two or three off the face and just
Speaker 3: keep going.
Speaker 2: And I was more of a defensive fighter where you
Speaker 2: look back and I'm just so grateful. If I was
Speaker 2: playing in the seventies, like my nose would be on
Speaker 2: the other side of my head, ye, and I probably
Speaker 2: would be like eating through a two at this point.
Speaker 4: So just a.
Speaker 2: Different era, and I guess to answer your going back
Speaker 2: to your question, the difference between an agitator is somebody
Speaker 2: who doesn't necessarily have to fight all the time, but
Speaker 2: can get under people's skin, play the game, and also
Speaker 2: handle his business.
Speaker 3: Shit. What makes a good locker room guy in hockey?
Speaker 3: I think just you guys have you guys always have.
Speaker 3: I feel like that you guys always have pretty great
Speaker 3: locker rooms.
Speaker 1: There's not like it's not like football or basketball or
Speaker 1: I don't know how baseball that much.
Speaker 3: You know, they got a lot of that too, where
Speaker 3: there's there's like a.
Speaker 1: Lot of egos sometimes with certain positions. I feel like hockey,
Speaker 1: those guys are always what makes the locker room so great.
Speaker 2: I mean there have been locker rooms like that. I
Speaker 2: was blessed throughout my entire career where we always had
Speaker 2: great locker room culture.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 2: I played in Pittsburgh's organization, Phoenixes and LA's and every
Speaker 2: organization was first class. And I would say, what makes
Speaker 2: a good locker room guy is just like guys who
Speaker 2: are selfless. You know, they look they look after the team,
Speaker 2: They care about wins more than they do their individual stats.
Speaker 2: And that was just kind of how we operated in
Speaker 2: Phoenix because that's where I was for the majority of
Speaker 2: my my NHL career. We had great leadership like Shane
Speaker 2: don and really it was a trickle down effect from there,
Speaker 2: and I personally was like in and out of the lineup.
Speaker 2: I was the locker room DJ. When I wasn't playing
Speaker 2: after the game, I was making sure I was handing
Speaker 2: out shakes more you can do. I was making sure
Speaker 2: that we'd have a couple of cases of beers for
Speaker 2: the bus.
Speaker 3: So the guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, I always I learned from a
Speaker 2: young age that that's kind of what you had to
Speaker 2: do in order to be a good teammate, especially if
Speaker 2: you weren't contributing on the ice. And but it goes
Speaker 2: back to the entire locker room where we just had
Speaker 2: a great culture.
Speaker 4: And that's just kind of the situations that I was in.
Speaker 1: Now, what playlist as team DJ got the boys going
Speaker 1: the best?
Speaker 2: So I think you had to read the room. And
Speaker 2: we had the check mafias. We had about five or
Speaker 2: six check guys on our team, and so they straight
Speaker 2: they liked the techno. They like, yeah, the disco biscuits,
Speaker 2: let's go, yeah, go into all.
Speaker 3: Those finish dudes, they all love that shit. Huh Yeah.
Speaker 2: We had a few euros and when they were in
Speaker 2: the locker room, I made sure that they were they
Speaker 2: were getting their techno. We had some Western leaguers they
Speaker 2: wanted the country and then usually leading up to Puck Drop,
Speaker 2: it was hip hop and then maybe a few like
Speaker 2: hardcore ac DC.
Speaker 5: Thunderstruck can never go wrong. You can't go wrong with Thunderstruck.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's on every kid's highlight film
Speaker 1: that's thirty five and older.
Speaker 2: If you can't get your dick card to Thunderstruck, like you,
Speaker 2: you you got problems. You don't deserve to be in
Speaker 2: the league.
Speaker 3: I'm tn T guy too. Yeah, I just want to
Speaker 3: hit something.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Now I got to ask something. You guys
Speaker 1: use the word slap dick. We use slap dick all
Speaker 1: the time too.
Speaker 5: No, they don't. I want the equivalent of slaptick.
Speaker 3: Oh what's the equivalent?
Speaker 5: Explain slaptick?
Speaker 3: A slap dick to us is like a baba luke
Speaker 3: or like just.
Speaker 5: Like explain baba luke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to be a different language.
Speaker 3: A locker room is kind of like a guy that
Speaker 3: he's a slappy like he's like.
Speaker 4: He'll go over after the game.
Speaker 5: What's that he's more of?
Speaker 3: He's not a cool kid yet you know how there's
Speaker 3: like socioeconomic statuses in the locker room. He's not a
Speaker 3: cool kid, but he's not like someone he's like in
Speaker 3: that bottom tier of the of the team.
Speaker 2: Probably me, Yeah, I was just handing out the protein
Speaker 2: shakes after the game.
Speaker 3: Or you know the guys like my my.
Speaker 1: My one example is like I remember me and Rob
Speaker 1: Nikovich early in my career when I was a slap dick.
Speaker 1: We would sit in the locker room after organized team
Speaker 1: activities in spring, like mini camps, and we we'd have
Speaker 1: the rest of the day off, and we'd be talking
Speaker 1: about going to Waxies, which is this local bar where
Speaker 1: no one knew who we were because we wear helmets
Speaker 1: and we were young guys and no one kneho we were.
Speaker 1: And we would sit there and we would just dream
Speaker 1: about look at Brady.
Speaker 3: And say, man, you think he's gonna take his supermodel
Speaker 3: wife on a fucking helicopter in Hamptons for a fucking
Speaker 3: lunch today or that like that? Those are the slap
Speaker 3: looking at those guys like the what is is there?
Speaker 3: A slap dick name in hockey. I would I use
Speaker 3: the term tire pumper.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 2: I used to pump guys tires and and you know,
Speaker 2: you want to make them feel good, especially a guy
Speaker 2: not playing is you want them being at the most confident.
Speaker 2: So even before games, like the rule was is when
Speaker 2: I had Dave Tippet as a head coach, even when
Speaker 2: I was a healthy.
Speaker 4: Scratch, I would go for warm up. So I'd be
Speaker 4: around the locker.
Speaker 2: Room just being like, man, you're the best, like you're
Speaker 2: you're fucking buzzing lately, you know, scoring all those goals.
Speaker 2: Maybe not speculating what they were doing with their wives,
Speaker 2: but more so just making sure their tires were pumped,
Speaker 2: their egos were inflav we.
Speaker 3: Were marveling that like, yes, he's just like man, I
Speaker 3: wonder what he's probably gonna go to, like Italy for
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 2: I would always like to ask guys like can I
Speaker 2: see your paycheck? Yeah, because they would put the hard
Speaker 2: copy in the stall, and you know, I'd look at
Speaker 2: mine and I was fucking grateful at that time, like
Speaker 2: twenty grand every two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then you'd look at a guy like Ed Joe Venowski,
Speaker 2: like two hundred and fifty three hundred K every two weeks,
Speaker 2: and you're just.
Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck?
Speaker 2: Go good by Bentley if he wanted to to he wanted.
Speaker 2: It's crazy when silver Leaf, you know, playing golf every day,
Speaker 2: you know, rubin elbows mine while I'm eating at fucking
Speaker 2: five guys.
Speaker 1: Well, time in my career, Thursdays was a Chili's night, Okay,
Speaker 1: bottomless chips and salsa, that's your go to.
Speaker 3: That was our go to first three years of my
Speaker 3: career at Chili's.
Speaker 4: So so it wasn't until year four where you were
Speaker 4: a starter.
Speaker 1: I was a special teamer, so I played, I returned punts,
Speaker 1: I covered kicks. We had Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Joey Galloway.
Speaker 1: So like I was bottom on the depth chart at
Speaker 1: receiver and I was a quarterback in college, so I
Speaker 1: was transferring positions. So I had to like make myself valuable.
Speaker 1: I had to go to the hockey boy route and
Speaker 1: fucking tire pump a bunch of dudes and play on
Speaker 1: every fucking team and learn the game before I got
Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to start.
Speaker 4: So, like, what would Randy Moss dap you up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Randy love Like Randy was souper cool to me.
Speaker 1: He he used to call me Edel nut, you know,
Speaker 1: and he would he would make me why because I
Speaker 1: was like a nut, you know. I was a little kid,
Speaker 1: fucking asking questions all the time.
Speaker 3: I had no clue. You're you're in a new part
Speaker 3: of the world, new part of the country.
Speaker 4: Probably bringing energy to the locker room too. What you
Speaker 4: have to do when you're a.
Speaker 3: Tire pump, but you can't be heard, you have to
Speaker 3: be seen. It's a rookie, okay, you know, so you're
Speaker 3: not bringing that much.
Speaker 4: I came in hot. That was my problem.
Speaker 2: Like some guys were probably like this guy's a loser,
Speaker 2: but eventually I grew on them.
Speaker 1: I came in hot once with Randy on Christmas and
Speaker 1: told him to tell his mom Merry Christmas while he's
Speaker 1: on the phone with her. And he looked at me
Speaker 1: and said, edelmanha, if I'm ever talking to my mom,
Speaker 1: just shut the fuck up on Christmas.
Speaker 3: Okay, So like you.
Speaker 1: Were Jewish, But he also like loved me up, like
Speaker 1: I would have to keep the receiver, like you're when
Speaker 1: you're a young guy or rookie, you'd have to get
Speaker 1: all the food for the travel. Yeah, and you usually
Speaker 1: have to pay for it out of your own pocket.
Speaker 1: But he'd always I was a seventh round guy. He'd
Speaker 1: always slide me the money and make me go.
Speaker 3: Like he took care of me.
Speaker 1: But he's awesome. He let me know that I was
Speaker 1: a rookie. But he always when no one was looking,
Speaker 1: he'd always pump my tires.
Speaker 2: So year fourwards, when you you walked in and you
Speaker 2: finally fell like you'd establish yourself and then you had like.
Speaker 1: The no, I was still battling. It wasn't until about
Speaker 1: year five, my year five, after year five, that's when
Speaker 1: I went for like one hundred and five catches. That
Speaker 1: was the after that year, that's when it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, now you're not a slappy.
Speaker 2: So before that, you like wouldn't text back and forth
Speaker 2: with Brady.
Speaker 3: I would. So I was trying to get there. I
Speaker 3: was making myself available. I was like the uh, you know,
Speaker 3: I was kind of like the uh, the non threatening
Speaker 3: guy friend okay for him or you know, if he
Speaker 3: needed me in La anytime I traveled anywhere. He was
Speaker 3: just in case he needed me to throw too so
Speaker 3: I made myself available. So the first year, you know,
Speaker 3: in the off seasons, we didn't we threw once because
Speaker 3: all the receivers used to throw at them. And then
Speaker 3: you know, by year four, we're throwing three or four
Speaker 3: times a day. And what that did was I learned
Speaker 3: what he liked, he learned my body mechanics, and the
Speaker 3: rest is, you know, goes on.
Speaker 5: To how you started in the friend zone with Brady.
Speaker 3: Was I was friend zone because he ed Welker and Moss.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then and then those guys took off
Speaker 4: and you took their place.
Speaker 3: And they took off. Yeah, you know, he's kind of like
Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey. I guess and days and confused.
Speaker 5: They get older, I keep getting older and they keep playing.
Speaker 3: I was just a younger version of them.
Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. Oh, great way to put it.
Speaker 3: Who were some of the big dogs you looked out
Speaker 3: for on your teams?
Speaker 2: Well, Yeans because he was a skilled defenceman. Ed Jovanovski
Speaker 2: who was a veteran defenseman for US, but like a
Speaker 2: star at that time, he'd want a gold with Team
Speaker 2: Canada at the Olympics.
Speaker 3: Shane Doan was our captain.
Speaker 2: The thing about Arizona is we didn't have a big
Speaker 2: we didn't have a big budget. Like at one point
Speaker 2: when I was there, the league took over and they
Speaker 2: owned the team. So we never really had these like
Speaker 2: high end superstars on our team. We just had a
Speaker 2: really galvanized group of lunch pale mentality type of players
Speaker 2: where my first, second and third year there, we made playoffs.
Speaker 2: Every year we were projected to finish last or second
Speaker 2: last in our conference, and even to the third year
Speaker 2: we won our division and ended up going to the
Speaker 2: conference finals. So it was really cool. That was in
Speaker 2: like fifteen, I believe that that was two thousand and.
Speaker 3: Thirteen, thirteen, I remember that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we lost to the La Kings in five.
Speaker 3: Remember those jerseys, and I was like, who the fuck
Speaker 3: is a coyote?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we're staying at the fucking Best Westerns when
Speaker 2: other teams are staying at the Ritz Carlton and just
Speaker 2: like you know, that's sick, eating chicken noodle sup before games,
Speaker 2: just to survive. And and sure enough we go all
Speaker 2: the way to the conference finals. So it was a
Speaker 2: very special group and we had a guy, Ray Whitney,
Speaker 2: who played over a thousand games, over thousand points.
Speaker 3: Who was he?
Speaker 2: Actually, it's he has a funny story. He grew up
Speaker 2: in Edmonton. His father was a trainer for the Edmonton Oilers,
Speaker 2: and he grew up and he would go to the
Speaker 2: locker room and help as a trainer for game days
Speaker 2: and he would be taping Wayne Gretzky sticks. Oh, Wayne
Speaker 2: Gretzky would use about like five to eight sticks every game,
Speaker 2: and he would go there and tape it up and
Speaker 2: he'd make sure after the game and a Gatorade cup
Speaker 2: he'd have a beer. So when Wayne was doing his interviews,
Speaker 2: he'd be drinking a beer, but it was in a
Speaker 2: Gatorade cup, so no one knews. So he ended up
Speaker 2: evolving into an incredible player undersize, but ended up having
Speaker 2: a tremendous career. So those are some of the leaders.
Speaker 3: He must be a good tape stick taper stick taper,
Speaker 3: because I remember watching Sagan do that once and it
Speaker 3: was like taping the stick. I know, but like that's
Speaker 3: a guy's like to have someone else do it. It's
Speaker 3: like prepping your sword.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, some guys are very sloppy about it. David
Speaker 2: Posterknock used to just go like a couple strips and
Speaker 2: he'd score fifty goals. It didn't just yeah, like right
Speaker 2: out of the wrapper tape, a couple of strips on
Speaker 2: it and he's out there. But other guys are very
Speaker 2: precise where they would have the same amount, Like there
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a millimeter of difference between every player of
Speaker 2: how it went all the way to the toe from
Speaker 2: heel to toe or whatever. But yeah, so that's the
Speaker 2: that's the guy's sore that they have to use. So
Speaker 2: some guys treat it with with massive respect.
Speaker 3: You have to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now you started in social media, Yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: everyone kind of found you. Yeah, and you jumped over
Speaker 1: into the mainstream and you work with T and T.
Speaker 1: How the fuck has that been? Because I'm in this
Speaker 1: world now too, and it's a fun world. How's it
Speaker 1: for you guys?
Speaker 2: So I don't think I would be on T and
Speaker 2: T if it wasn't for the Spit and Chickles podcast.
Speaker 2: Soh Rear Admiral ra as we call him him and
Speaker 2: Wit started the pod and Mike Grinnell, our producer, hopped
Speaker 2: on and then it kind of evolved to what it
Speaker 2: was before I hopped on that I actually started as
Speaker 2: a color guy with the Coyotes after I retired, So
Speaker 2: doing the full game and talking for the three hours
Speaker 2: really prepared me for the podcast. Then the podcast got
Speaker 2: me the job with T and T because of the
Speaker 2: pod popularity that had grown from it, and also the
Speaker 2: fact that when I was playing with the Coyotes, Wayne
Speaker 2: Gretzky was actually the coach. Before I got there, the
Speaker 2: market had gone down, so he kept his home there
Speaker 2: and his two kids, Tye and Trevor, along with my
Speaker 2: good buddy Joey Superstein. They were living in this mansion
Speaker 2: going to ASU. So I was going there and partying
Speaker 2: with them, and we were throwing these after hours, like
Speaker 2: Tom Green would show up, like it was just this
Speaker 2: crazy time in my life. And when the TNT gig
Speaker 2: came up, Wayne Gretzky was already hired, and when they
Speaker 2: were talking about people to add ty and Trevor, his
Speaker 2: kids were like, Dad, why don't you get Biz on board?
Speaker 2: Like he's a fucking clown online, like he would be
Speaker 2: awesome for the broadcast. So Wayne's like, all right, and
Speaker 2: then he mentioned it to them. I went in for
Speaker 2: a trial and hit it off with Liam McHugh who's
Speaker 2: an incredible bus driver, and then yeah, he's an unreal
Speaker 2: bus driver, Like this guy's motor's insane, and then and
Speaker 2: then answered Carter, who'd already been doing it. And the
Speaker 2: tryout went great, and the next thing you know, I
Speaker 2: got high to do NHL on TNT and I've been
Speaker 2: so grateful to just be a part of that whole
Speaker 2: franchise and the fact that the NBA guys like Shaq, Chuck, Ernie,
Speaker 2: all of them have kind of set the table and
Speaker 2: transformed the way that broadcast should be. Like we're so
Speaker 2: much looser and able to snap it around at that
Speaker 2: pace because those guys had had done what they'd done,
Speaker 2: done what they did prior. And TNT is in turner
Speaker 2: is just a dream to work for. It's been it's
Speaker 2: been world first class and couldn't be more grateful.
Speaker 1: And it's so fun because I work at Fox and
Speaker 1: it's fun watching you guys, and from my experience getting
Speaker 1: to go to work and see how we long Terry Bradshaw,
Speaker 1: it gives you my football fix. Like everyone asked, don't
Speaker 1: you want to coach? I'm like, fuck no, those guys
Speaker 1: have no lives.
Speaker 3: I still get my football fix by going to work
Speaker 3: and talking old war stories with Terry Bradshaw. HOWI long
Speaker 3: Michael Strahan all those guys and have that locker room vibe.
Speaker 3: How's the locker room vibe with fucking your guy? Yeah, Gretzky, Like,
Speaker 3: how crazy is how is it to get to work
Speaker 3: with the fucking great one every day? It's surreal.
Speaker 2: And my first year, especially because he was doing a
Speaker 2: little bit more, and I've even shocked the fact that
Speaker 2: he's doing it. He's done so much as an ambassador
Speaker 2: for the game, he does so much for the alumni,
Speaker 2: so the fact that we even get to be in
Speaker 2: his presence is incredible. And our first year before Rick Talckett,
Speaker 2: his good buddy, had got a head coaching job with
Speaker 2: the Vancouver Canucks. After broadcast, we'd go back to their
Speaker 2: whether you know, whether it was Wayne or Rick's room,
Speaker 2: and they would just tell these stories for hours and hours,
Speaker 2: and so I'd be I'd be up till four thirty
Speaker 2: and I'd have a six am car going, but I
Speaker 2: didn't care. I just wanted to be hearing these iconic
Speaker 2: stories that have transformed the game, and stories that you
Speaker 2: hear about on television when they're breaking all down. But
Speaker 2: even like more of the incurtesies.
Speaker 3: Is that you said, I'm not a bord guy.
Speaker 4: Me neither exactly tried a big one. That's like four syllables.
Speaker 2: I should probably stick to my game off the glass
Speaker 2: and out the little details.
Speaker 3: That's what the details.
Speaker 2: Even more so so just to be around him and
Speaker 2: be in his presence, it's it's like I pitch myself
Speaker 2: all the time. He's the greatest to ever do it.
Speaker 2: And also the reason they call him the great one
Speaker 2: is not because of what he accomplished on the ice,
Speaker 2: but also what he's done off the ice, Like there's
Speaker 2: no bigger guy. Like all he wants to do is
Speaker 2: help the former players, whether it's get them insurance and
Speaker 2: grow the game and just help everybody out in the
Speaker 2: hockey world.
Speaker 4: And uh, just an unreal ambassador for the game of hockey.
Speaker 3: He seems like just a nice man. He is the man, dude,
Speaker 3: he's the man. He looks like I've never met him.
Speaker 4: He's the best.
Speaker 3: He seems so cool.
Speaker 2: I'll tell him next time he's here. I bet you
Speaker 2: he would come on your podcast.
Speaker 3: I would love to have fucking Wayne Gretzki on the
Speaker 3: Goddamn Podcast.
Speaker 2: Because his kids, his kids help run his hockey school,
Speaker 2: his merchandise or they're keeping it as a family business
Speaker 2: and they run his social So he on the Theovon podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so they'll be like, Dad, go on this, and he'll
Speaker 2: be like, okay. So he just loves it, and he'd.
Speaker 1: Be a guy that's like a you know, we were
Speaker 1: very fortunate in our sport to have a great face
Speaker 1: guy to like Tom. You know, the guys that are
Speaker 1: faces of leagues and that are generational greats. They're not
Speaker 1: just that because they're great on the field or on
Speaker 1: the ice. It's because they're overall just great dudes, great humans.
Speaker 1: And that's why there's so much greater than everyone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and exactly, and like going back, look at
Speaker 2: how much Tom's done for the game, Like you think, man,
Speaker 2: go go chill on a beach and and go relax,
Speaker 2: go enjoy it. And it's almost like he feels like
Speaker 2: he's indebted to the game based on what it's provided
Speaker 2: his life to continue to grow it and obviously to
Speaker 2: continue to be a part of it.
Speaker 3: And he just loves it.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and you could tell with all of them,
Speaker 2: it's just a fabric of their being. And uh yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just.
Speaker 1: Because they respect the game and they understand. You know,
Speaker 1: you get a lot of these a lot of people
Speaker 1: that said, you know, I'm I'm not letting the sport
Speaker 1: define me the.
Speaker 3: Well you know, the great ones do. Yeah, they understand
Speaker 3: that they're in debt to the sport because what the
Speaker 3: sport has given us. Yeah, and you love that sport,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And that's what you see
Speaker 3: from those two specifically, what's it like watching a game
Speaker 3: with them? Is he is he breaking that ship down? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that and also how it will correlate to like
Speaker 2: just this insane monumental moment throughout hockey history. So that's
Speaker 2: the best thing with him. It's like goosebumps, goosebumps, choose
Speaker 2: your own ending. He could bring it anywhere. So getting
Speaker 2: to watch he also sees it like what's the term.
Speaker 2: He's almost like a savant. So sometimes he'll like describe
Speaker 2: a plan. I'll be like, oh, yeah, like I don't
Speaker 2: know what the fuck he's saying, Like you should have
Speaker 2: dumped it in. But uh, even to go back to
Speaker 2: to Wayne and and why he is the way he
Speaker 2: is his father Walter like he was an icon in himself,
Speaker 2: and probably a lot of the pressure that he took
Speaker 2: off Wayne when he was even going through it, and
Speaker 2: the fact that he was an ambassador in himself, whether
Speaker 2: he was signing autographs or doing media hits, like he
Speaker 2: really pushed it upon Wayne to continue that ambassadorship and
Speaker 2: move the game forward. And even to when Wayne was
Speaker 2: a child, his father was so innovative where he built
Speaker 2: a pond in his backyard and he would be doing
Speaker 2: drills with tennis balls and Wayne would be like, why
Speaker 2: am I doing drills with a tennis ball rather than
Speaker 2: a pocket He'd say, because if you can control a
Speaker 2: tennis ball, your hands will be so soft that way,
Speaker 2: when the puck comes, you'll be able to cradle it
Speaker 2: so much smoother and softer than everybody else. And that
Speaker 2: was like, those were like little details that he taught
Speaker 2: Wayne at a young age that propelled him to be
Speaker 2: this phenom and end up living up to everything that
Speaker 2: kind of like Mcjesus, like all the hype he lived
Speaker 2: up to, every single ounce of it is.
Speaker 3: Mcjesus gonna be.
Speaker 2: He is him. It's what he does on the ice,
Speaker 2: it's I don't get it. I don't understand it. So
Speaker 2: I actually I knew that I could never play in
Speaker 2: the NHL again when I played in an exhibition game
Speaker 2: when I was with the LA Kings organization, so I
Speaker 2: was in training camp. They did this like Craft Hockeyville
Speaker 2: game and it was in like Vernon, BC, so we
Speaker 2: traveled there. I got to play in the game, and
Speaker 2: I was obviously playing fourth line, and you'd heard about
Speaker 2: this kid, and I think this was his first year
Speaker 2: in the league and his first training camp. So I
Speaker 2: ended up getting caught out in the ice twice against him,
Speaker 2: and he grabbed the puck in his own end, went
Speaker 2: through our whole five guys and put it in. The
Speaker 2: second time he did it, he set somebody up and
Speaker 2: they scored. So two times I got caught out against him,
Speaker 2: and the speed in which he was skating and controlling
Speaker 2: the puck. After the game, I'm like, I'm done, there's
Speaker 2: no way, And then sure enough I got sent home
Speaker 2: the next day, like back down to the minors.
Speaker 4: So that was the end of it.
Speaker 2: And I knew that this game was being handed off
Speaker 2: to another level in which I didn't think was ever
Speaker 2: going to be possible.
Speaker 3: Geez. It's it's exciting though. It's so exciting.
Speaker 1: That's exciting for hockey because the leagues need one guy,
Speaker 1: like who's Basketball's guy right now, which is in a
Speaker 1: different form of fashion because they have a bunch of guys,
Speaker 1: but they're not like American guys, so they can't build around.
Speaker 1: Hockey's in a different world where the hockey I consider
Speaker 1: Canada and American guys like for the North in America,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, where you can rally
Speaker 1: behind at least in this country, like they don't have
Speaker 1: that in a lot of other sports.
Speaker 3: Right now, hockey you have a future.
Speaker 2: So not only mcjesus as we call him, but like
Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon as Matthews too, Austin Matthews, he had sixty
Speaker 2: nine goals last year.
Speaker 1: Gigb you then you got his predecessor or he's got
Speaker 1: you got his Uh, you just got a couple of
Speaker 1: little battles for.
Speaker 2: It's like I feel like hockey is going into it's
Speaker 2: almost like it's glory days. Because of just the growth
Speaker 2: of the game in the United States and in the population.
Speaker 2: They formed the development program here, so the American kidcher
Speaker 2: U the United States so they.
Speaker 3: Have they would they hire. I don't know who runs
Speaker 3: the Canadian guys.
Speaker 4: Uh, there are a lot.
Speaker 2: Of Canadian hockey players that have settled in the States
Speaker 2: and probably a big reason as to why the minor
Speaker 2: programs in these different cities, whether it's a Dallas, Florida,
Speaker 2: that these kids are obviously being raised in the States
Speaker 2: as Americans and the game is growing here. Yeah, Canadians
Speaker 2: do have a little part to do with it, but
Speaker 2: there's tons of amazing.
Speaker 3: American John barselsand.
Speaker 2: Yeah, PMT is like you never know where they're going.
Speaker 2: So I just kind of got off the rails with them.
Speaker 2: So had to take credit, especially during this time of
Speaker 2: the foreign nations and all the controversy.
Speaker 4: Between US and Canada.
Speaker 2: But but no, it's the game is in a great
Speaker 2: place and all these players are pushing the envelope, and
Speaker 2: especially the US with how many great players they have
Speaker 2: they have. Jack Eichel just mentioned they have some great
Speaker 2: defenseman even Canada, like Cale McCarry. You see his picture
Speaker 2: on the Spats he is, Yeah, he's a umask guy.
Speaker 2: He Wayne Gretzy just said the other day he goes biz.
Speaker 2: He's the best thing. Uh, Like he's the biggest comparable
Speaker 2: to Bobby or I've ever seen, and that is very
Speaker 2: high priced, huge. He revolutionized the game as a defenseman
Speaker 2: where he would just take the puck from his own end,
Speaker 2: he'd skate through the team and and do.
Speaker 4: Whatever he did out there.
Speaker 2: And Cale mccarr defensively and offensively is just an absolute
Speaker 2: phenom and living up to every expectation to Quinn Hughes,
Speaker 2: he's an American, He's a water bug out there. So
Speaker 2: he won last year's Norris ahead of Cale mccarr. So
Speaker 2: you almost like you have these battles going on between
Speaker 2: each of these positions, which is a good thing because
Speaker 2: it's just forcing them all to up their game. And
Speaker 2: on top of that, you have a storyline of of
Speaker 2: the Hughes brothers, so this you.
Speaker 3: Can love that hockey guy. There's so many goddamn brothers
Speaker 3: in the Hut, three of them that are all under
Speaker 3: They're all like all stars.
Speaker 2: You got the Kachuck Brothers who are now the modern
Speaker 2: day Bash Brothers, and the Mighty Ducks movie Bolton. You
Speaker 2: can there's a million storylines going on in hockey. And
Speaker 2: and that's why I said, I feel like we're entering
Speaker 2: like a new the.
Speaker 3: Golden era hockey renaissance. Yeah, yeah, a hockey renaissance.
Speaker 5: Olympics next year too, huh, Olympics next year. This formation
Speaker 5: is really gonna be that one two punch honestly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they timed it at perfect with the four nation
Speaker 3: thing because now you've got Olympics, which always gives his
Speaker 3: fucking cheers, and playoff hockey's coming up, so you're gonna
Speaker 3: get this and this back off.
Speaker 2: Betman gets so much flack and I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's just a thing where like all the all all
Speaker 2: the guys who run the leagues, the commissioners get it.
Speaker 2: But as much as flack as he takes, he's done
Speaker 2: an exceptional job along with the league, the players association,
Speaker 2: the alumni to put it in a position where it
Speaker 2: is now. It'd been nine years since hockey had best
Speaker 2: on best for the COVID reason, and then at one
Speaker 2: point they just couldn't reach an agreement on an insurance situation.
Speaker 2: But you see, yeah, you seem to know quite a
Speaker 2: bit of what's going on.
Speaker 5: Since the Crosby Golden goal was there was there a
Speaker 5: World Cup.
Speaker 2: They did form a World Cup where they had like
Speaker 2: an under twenty five team. So it wasn't necessarily that traditional,
Speaker 2: but the fact that they did it the first one
Speaker 2: in nine years, McDavid and Crosby were able to put
Speaker 2: on Team Canada Jersey together. People want to act like
Speaker 2: it's a maybe, like call an All Star game or
Speaker 2: this makeshift event, But those are the four leading hockey
Speaker 2: nations outside of Russia. What's that they're they're on timeout? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't for that's that's for other political reasons that
Speaker 2: I don't really feel to dive into the legs on.
Speaker 2: But they end up having this thing the year before
Speaker 2: the Olympics in order to kind of just really propel
Speaker 2: it and get people anticipated for what will be an incredible,
Speaker 2: incredible event in Italy. So hockey is on a heater
Speaker 2: right now and it couldn't be in a better place.
Speaker 1: It couldn't be in a better place. Tyler, do you
Speaker 1: want to ask your Pittsburgh stuff for before?
Speaker 5: Since before I can remember, you were a part the
Speaker 5: organization right at the start of the crosbyt Gino Latang Flower. Yeah,
Speaker 5: can you just can you in the organization in the building,
Speaker 5: could you see that was coming?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, it was kind of like I'm sure
Speaker 2: that you dealt with Tom. That was my first experience
Speaker 2: with playing with a guy who was obsessed with the game.
Speaker 2: And Sid would come to the rink every day, and
Speaker 2: the way that he would prepare, the way that he
Speaker 2: would be so focused when the drill was being drawn up.
Speaker 2: He would be the first guy in line and he
Speaker 2: would set the tone to every single drill and if
Speaker 2: the level wasn't at the level, he would be barking.
Speaker 2: And even if I was the second guy in line,
Speaker 2: gino at Guenny Malklin, he'd come in and he'd be like,
Speaker 2: Bizz back in the line. We're fucking set in the tone.
Speaker 2: So to watch of Guenny Malkin, Crosby, Marc Andre Florey,
Speaker 2: who's still playing all kind of playing, it's crazy. Let
Speaker 2: tang and the enthusiasm they also brought to the rink,
Speaker 2: you just knew that it was just a matter of
Speaker 2: time before they hoisted the cup and really saved the
Speaker 2: team from probably moving.
Speaker 3: So but they were going to move the Penguins. Don't
Speaker 3: they love the Penguins in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: It was just a dark time, right, Like it was like.
Speaker 3: One of the isn't that like one of the most historic.
Speaker 2: Yes, because of Mario and Yoger and what they'd done.
Speaker 2: But you know, unfortunately they were reaching their dog days.
Speaker 2: Mario was retiring, and that that lottery ball where they
Speaker 2: won and they got Sidney Crosby changed at all, and
Speaker 2: then the following year they got Malcolm and actually the
Speaker 2: year before that it was my draft when they ended
Speaker 2: up picking Marc Andre Fleury at number one overall. So
Speaker 2: they were fortunate enough to get those spots in the draft. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jordan Stall was huge. He was a great third line
Speaker 2: center for them at a young age when they ended
Speaker 2: up winning it. So it was just a perfect time.
Speaker 2: And actually what was cool about it. The year that
Speaker 2: I was drafted was three and I got to go
Speaker 2: to training camp where it was one of marios, if
Speaker 2: not his last year, so I got to do training
Speaker 2: camp with Mario Lemux and share the ice of I
Speaker 2: was so fucking nervous. I was in his group in
Speaker 2: training camp and I'll never forget. We were doing this
Speaker 2: easy drill where the defenseman rounds the net and at
Speaker 2: this time I was still a d and all you
Speaker 2: had to do was.
Speaker 3: Was hit the winger along the wall.
Speaker 2: It was a fifteen foot fucking pass and I rounded
Speaker 2: the net and it was Mario and I missed him
Speaker 2: by about twenty feet and they had to blow down
Speaker 2: the drill and we had to restart, and I.
Speaker 3: Was so embarrassed. Did you say anything like what's up? Kid? No? No,
Speaker 3: he was so cool about it.
Speaker 2: You know. It was Eddie Ulcik was a coach at
Speaker 2: the time, and so thankfully the next time I did it,
Speaker 2: I hit his tape. But I'll never forget. He must
Speaker 2: have had a golf match after the practice and we
Speaker 2: didn't have the scrimmage that day. So normally you bag
Speaker 2: skate when you don't you know what to bag skate was,
Speaker 2: and to practice like lineup nopucks, just conditioning and yeah,
Speaker 2: ed Zoe was our coach at the time. He was like,
Speaker 2: all right, boys, great practice, great pace today, We're just
Speaker 2: gonna do a little skate. And then Mario was like
Speaker 2: and He's like, guess that the now we're good and
Speaker 2: the Edge's like great practice today, boys, enjoy yourselves, play
Speaker 2: rebound if you want, and have a great day. And
Speaker 2: that was like I was like, what, Like, I've never
Speaker 2: seen anything like that, And just Mario's aura and and
Speaker 2: and seeing him around was was just like something I'll
Speaker 2: never forget. So my time in Pittsburgh, as much as
Speaker 2: it was in the minors and in even the EHL,
Speaker 2: I was just grateful to spend that little a time
Speaker 2: around those legends.
Speaker 3: You got to be around some fucking legend legends.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget you're.
Speaker 3: Still around legend, You're you're a legend.
Speaker 2: So uh no, uh the Afgheny malk and that was
Speaker 2: the year. I want to say he might have won
Speaker 2: the cont that first year.
Speaker 5: He won the Heart too.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he was just on fire. And when
Speaker 2: you do an entry level contract in the NHL, you're
Speaker 2: able to get bonuses. So that following training camp, I
Speaker 2: was still on the team and we're riding the bike
Speaker 2: and then this Frank Bernomo, who was like the PR guy,
Speaker 2: he comes off and ops an envelope and you could
Speaker 2: see once he opened it of Guinea Malklm's face lit
Speaker 2: up and I was like, what's going on over there?
Speaker 3: And he handed over and.
Speaker 2: It was like a million dollar check that he'd gotten
Speaker 2: for all his bonuses. And I was playing in the
Speaker 2: A at the time, making peanuts, and I just like,
Speaker 2: I'll never forget, and I think. A few days later,
Speaker 2: his nine to eleven poor showed up, Like this guy
Speaker 2: is just zipping around town. No way a cop would
Speaker 2: pull him over because they probably knew it was Gino.
Speaker 2: So just just living legends and a silly time in
Speaker 2: my life.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, have you ever around when his parents
Speaker 5: would show up?
Speaker 2: I was not there, But that was when the iconic
Speaker 2: series that he had against the Carolina Hurricane. Oh that
Speaker 2: backhanded going and when he had the hat trick that
Speaker 2: game and he scored that wrap around goal he went
Speaker 2: around the net and then he just like did like
Speaker 2: a spinner am of backhand top cheese, and his mom's
Speaker 2: crying in the stands and everybody's.
Speaker 4: Like chanting, Geneo, Geneo.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I actually unfortunately I was in the A
Speaker 2: at the time then and we were in playoffs and
Speaker 2: I got hit ass over tea kettle. So I had
Speaker 2: a guy hit me low and high, and it just
Speaker 2: so happens the guy who hit me high, he stepped
Speaker 2: on my wrist, and so I was in getting surgery
Speaker 2: because it cut my like tendons in my You.
Speaker 3: Could die that way, they say. Usually if you want
Speaker 3: to kill yourself, slit your wrists.
Speaker 2: But I got up and I saw the person in
Speaker 2: the front row. So we were in a playoff series
Speaker 2: against the Hershey Bears, and their NHL team was the
Speaker 2: Washington Capitals, and Pittsburgh was playing Washington in the second round.
Speaker 2: That was always the biggest rivalry. It was OVI and
Speaker 2: Sid where they would have to hatching games and it
Speaker 2: would go to game seven. It was like, so good
Speaker 2: for the game. These guys carry the league forever. And
Speaker 2: so you know, I was in the a I got
Speaker 2: my wrist stepped on and I got up and I
Speaker 2: could see the people in the front row grabbing their
Speaker 2: mouth being like oh my god. And I had blood
Speaker 2: on my jersey. So I'm like patting my head, looking
Speaker 2: at my hand, like what's bleeding? And then I looked
Speaker 2: at my other hand and it just squirting out blood.
Speaker 2: And we had a medic on the team who'd went
Speaker 2: to like the I forget what war. It was like
Speaker 2: like one of one of the stores or something, one
Speaker 2: of those where he that was like the least of
Speaker 2: what he'd seen. So fortunately I went down the tunnel
Speaker 2: with a thread and needle. He closed it off. I
Speaker 2: was able to get to the hospital and they shipped
Speaker 2: me off to Pittsburgh. So I was there for that
Speaker 2: series for a couple of games when they were playing
Speaker 2: against Washington.
Speaker 4: That was that iconic series.
Speaker 2: Story, hat trick game, the dueling hat trick, I want
Speaker 2: to say, was in Washington, but I was watching it
Speaker 2: on a TV when I was in Pittsburgh. And then
Speaker 2: they ended up coming back to Pittsburgh for I think
Speaker 2: it was like game six or something like that. So
Speaker 2: just a crazy time and to be in the Pittsburgh organization.
Speaker 5: Energy like in the old Iglue.
Speaker 2: The ego was unbelievable, and the acoustics were perfect as
Speaker 2: shitty as the dressing rooms were and whatever the facility,
Speaker 2: who who gave a fuck? It was iconic and I
Speaker 2: didn't care just because of the vibe in that arena.
Speaker 2: It was awesome. Sucks they had to tear it down.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't like the way they build
Speaker 2: these new rinks. There's not enough character in my opinion.
Speaker 2: I like when they when they do them a little
Speaker 2: different geez. But yeah, I know we kind of got
Speaker 2: off the rails there.
Speaker 5: Thank you for humoring me. You're the first penguin on
Speaker 5: our show in one hundred episodes, so thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was, like I said, from Massachusetts, and
Speaker 3: the guy's a Penguins fan.
Speaker 5: I like the animal and my penguin. My parents like
Speaker 5: spent some time in Pittsburgh. They lived in Swickly for.
Speaker 3: A little bit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's also Mario and it was Yager my number
Speaker 5: growing up in the middle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario was another guy just like Gretzky where they
Speaker 2: would have been very close in points if he stayed
Speaker 2: healthy and he didn't deal with the cancer and and
Speaker 2: the back issues, and like Mario was just badass man.
Speaker 2: He would show up like I don't I don't know
Speaker 2: how much training he was doing in the off season,
Speaker 2: but he'd be ripping heaters and fucking goal out there,
Speaker 2: like two goals to assist, like it was easy.
Speaker 4: How big of a legend are you?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: I see it a lot with these hockey guys. Man,
Speaker 3: I went out.
Speaker 1: I I just remember going out with you guys, and
Speaker 1: you guys would have a game the next day. I
Speaker 1: would be in like offseason training, like stressing, like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to run tomorrow for team run.
Speaker 1: These guys go out and fucking play hockey The next day,
Speaker 1: he dialed Savages Savages. We'll be right back after this
Speaker 1: quick break.
Speaker 3: Let's let's go back into time.
Speaker 1: This is a segment where we go back into time
Speaker 1: around where the game took place. We talk over pop culture.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a little weird because this happened
Speaker 1: fucking last week. So February twenty first, twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's funny because it has the fiftieth anniversary of
Speaker 2: Saturday at Live. Wayne was supposed to go to that.
Speaker 2: We talk about him being the ambassador he was when
Speaker 2: he came to LA. He became so popular he ended
Speaker 2: up hosting Saturday at Live one time. So he got
Speaker 2: invited to that. He unfortunately didn't make it, but he
Speaker 2: had TNT right, Yeah, he had tntdn T.
Speaker 1: Fiftieth Anniversary Saturday Live last week, White Lotus Season three.
Speaker 3: You watch that.
Speaker 2: I don't watch television. I should get watch more, but
Speaker 2: I just don't watch TV.
Speaker 3: What do you do at night?
Speaker 2: I just, uh, I'm just so invested in hockey and
Speaker 2: and trying to be on top of it all. I'm
Speaker 2: a bit of a hockey junkie, and yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just uh, I don't watch TV for whatever reason.
Speaker 2: But you recommend White Lotus.
Speaker 5: I don't know, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I did the Breaking Bad I did, Uh what other one?
Speaker 2: I think one of the best series of all time
Speaker 2: was the one that Woody Harrelson was in True Detectives.
Speaker 2: Was at season two season one? That was probably the
Speaker 2: best show I've ever watched.
Speaker 3: Who was the guy yesterday at La Skate? Oh?
Speaker 5: Taylor Kish was really good at you like that Moegs
Speaker 5: from Yes He was so good yesterday.
Speaker 4: Okay, I saw a skill.
Speaker 3: There's three or four actors.
Speaker 5: I'm like that guy and Lee the guy from Chorsey
Speaker 5: to watch.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I'm good buddies with Terry Ryan, like
Speaker 2: Terry Yes, Teddy Purcell who played for the La Kings,
Speaker 2: He's good buddies with this Terry Ryan. And he's like
Speaker 2: this folk hero back in Newfoundland. And he wasn't on
Speaker 2: Shoresy yet, like he just retired and was kind of
Speaker 2: trying to find his way. And Teddy Purcell said, you know,
Speaker 2: this guy is a character. You need to get him
Speaker 2: on your podcast. And we got him on. And I
Speaker 2: think that Jared Kiso had found out about him because
Speaker 2: of it, and he'd already been doing a little bit
Speaker 2: of acting as well, So it kind of just propelled
Speaker 2: this career that he's now on. He's doing Shoresy. He
Speaker 2: ended up playing another game in the EHL after many
Speaker 2: years of being retired, so he's just become kind of
Speaker 2: this like folklore hero.
Speaker 4: He looks looks the part Terry.
Speaker 3: He played it all last night like he was playing
Speaker 3: in character, like booing the fans, and I was like, what.
Speaker 2: The ten Hitchcock is his name on ten inch Cock? Yes,
Speaker 2: the playoff of it on Shoorsy, But just an unreal guy.
Speaker 3: He's good handles.
Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, I absolutely love the KHL episodes.
Speaker 3: You guys do this is incredible.
Speaker 5: Anytime you get guys on that played in the KS
Speaker 5: incredible stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when we get him back from guys who
Speaker 2: played in the Super League before it turned into the KHL.
Speaker 2: But yeah, the ship that they got going on in
Speaker 2: Russia is just gnarly. One guy told the story about
Speaker 2: how he would go on the road trip, he would
Speaker 2: come back and like his his like furniture would be
Speaker 2: a little off, so he thought he had ghosts in
Speaker 2: his apartment and he got injured on the road one
Speaker 2: time where he told the coach, hey, my Groin's hanging
Speaker 2: on by a thread, like I can't play. So they're like, well,
Speaker 2: we're not going to bring you on the rest of
Speaker 2: the week and a half of the road trip. So
Speaker 2: they flew him back and he tried to open up
Speaker 2: his apartment and the dead bolt was on. A family
Speaker 2: would be living in his apartment when he was on
Speaker 2: the road. He had no idea. So that's why the
Speaker 2: in Russia. In Russia, just the shit that was. Well,
Speaker 2: they would go on a gold rout a couple of games,
Speaker 2: they got shut out practice time, Hey boys, everybody on
Speaker 2: the ice early, they'd slaughter like a goat or like
Speaker 2: a lamb on the ice, slit the throat, blood all
Speaker 2: out in the crease. They'd cook up the lamb after practice,
Speaker 2: eat it, and that that would cure the goal scoring drought.
Speaker 2: So just the shit they had going on.
Speaker 1: The Eastern Europeans, bro like the Russians, any kind you
Speaker 1: anytime you hear a stand on something, one of the
Speaker 1: Kakistans of these stands, of that stand, they're fighting bears.
Speaker 2: They're showing up to pick up the guys at the
Speaker 2: airport with Ak forty sevens.
Speaker 3: I mean standard in those countries.
Speaker 4: The one of the owners.
Speaker 2: One time he didn't think the ref was calling a
Speaker 2: good game, so he came down on the bench and.
Speaker 3: He killed him.
Speaker 4: He threatened his family. I thought he killed him. No
Speaker 4: may maybe after the game.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this ref has ever been seen
Speaker 2: or heard from again, but at least at the time.
Speaker 2: Another one of the one of the owners coming in
Speaker 2: the room with an AK forty seven like, yelling at
Speaker 2: the guys for not playing hard enough. It was guys
Speaker 2: getting paid cash at practice, and then they'd come back
Speaker 2: after and the duffel bag they got paid in was gone.
Speaker 2: Just guys flying back home goalies where they would take
Speaker 2: all the stuffing out of their pads, put the cash
Speaker 2: in there, and then stuff like sew it back up
Speaker 2: and fly back with the cash so they didn't the
Speaker 2: pay tax on it and get it out of there.
Speaker 3: Now is it American cash or is it?
Speaker 4: I think that they were paying them in US dollars
Speaker 4: these players, so.
Speaker 3: Cash is king? All right, Let's break down the game.
Speaker 5: This team USA team Quick with It, led by Mike Selvin.
Speaker 5: The twenty three man roster had a saw mix events
Speaker 5: and young Bucks. This team featured two sets of brothers
Speaker 5: and six sets of NHL teammates, notable dudes Austin Matthews,
Speaker 5: the Tucks, Jack Eichel, Jake Gunsel, Connor Hellibuck, and Charlie McAvoy.
Speaker 5: It's an all star team, so there's more names.
Speaker 3: But it's an all star team. But we didn't have
Speaker 3: our best all stars out there because McAvoy had a
Speaker 3: fucking shoulder thing. What's this? What's this? Got an infection?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So from according to the Boston Bruins, they released a statement.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were necessarily crazy about how
Speaker 2: it was handled. So it escalated to now where he's
Speaker 2: going to miss more time. They said it was an
Speaker 2: affection in his shoulder. That's the only details that I got. See.
Speaker 1: This is the this is the ship that could get
Speaker 1: the all staring games fucked up.
Speaker 3: Your star player goes down. Yeah, yeah, you don't want
Speaker 3: this is it? You know what I mean? This is
Speaker 3: the only this is why, this is what all the
Speaker 3: other people are going to say, like, this is why
Speaker 3: the other leagues don't play their best players all time.
Speaker 3: I think it would.
Speaker 2: Be shortsighted to not understand what this did for the game.
Speaker 2: That is part of the discrepancy and why the owners
Speaker 2: push back on doing the Olympics. The Olympics don't pay
Speaker 2: the NHL anything to use their resources, so these owners
Speaker 2: are worried about these guys going and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: you got a guy like Jack Hughes, Well what if
Speaker 2: he goes down where you're trying to make a playoff
Speaker 2: push with the New Jersey Devils. So I thought, in
Speaker 2: a perfect world, there maybe could be some financial kickback
Speaker 2: considering what hockey is doing for the Olympics or these
Speaker 2: one off events. But I guess the viewership and the
Speaker 2: exposure to the game should be enough.
Speaker 3: Now, how do you describe this US team? Unreal?
Speaker 2: They got, they got a little bit of everything. The
Speaker 2: biggest thing about the US is the guys that they
Speaker 2: still have coming up right, And there's a lot of
Speaker 2: young guys on this roster, like Brock Faber, very young
Speaker 2: defenseman for the Minnesota while where if you would have
Speaker 2: watched him play you would have been like, this guy's
Speaker 2: a thirty year old season vet. Another guy Jacob Slavin,
Speaker 2: like these guys are were not household names for this tournament,
Speaker 2: who are just at exceptional exceptional players. Zach Wrensky's still young.
Speaker 2: Quinn Hughes, I want to think. I think he's like,
Speaker 2: what twenty five years old? He's not that old, maybe
Speaker 2: twenty six. So that's what really stands out to me
Speaker 2: is just where USA Hockey is heading and the guys
Speaker 2: that they have on this roster.
Speaker 3: What's prime age for hockey?
Speaker 2: It might be like this with football, but there's it's
Speaker 2: slowly going down or course or quickly moving like down
Speaker 2: in age. I would say prime would probably be about
Speaker 2: twenty eight years old now.
Speaker 1: And I'd say that that's when I was at my
Speaker 1: athletic prime. Yeah, twenty eight, twenty nine, twenty eight. It's
Speaker 1: when your man strength hits your your knowledge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much the peak. And I think
Speaker 2: that US are really hitting that stride. The only thing
Speaker 2: about Canada and now is is Sidney Crosby's on the
Speaker 2: back nine, so that really sucks. Brad mar Shaw's on
Speaker 2: the back nine. So really this and the Olympics will
Speaker 2: be oh yeah, exactly, will be a passing of the torch,
Speaker 2: more so for the Canadians than the Americans. And we
Speaker 2: did touch on the Russians political climate aside. I think
Speaker 2: it would be a travesty if Russia was not able
Speaker 2: to compete in the next Olympics in hockey just because
Speaker 2: of when Crosby and Ovechkin came into the league, there
Speaker 2: was so much expectation, and these guys have carried the
Speaker 2: league for twenty years, and you would be.
Speaker 4: Able to have.
Speaker 2: Malcoln Ovechkin, Bebrovski and some of these older Russian players
Speaker 2: who have carried the torch for them handing it off
Speaker 2: to the Capricesovs in the next wave of Russian player
Speaker 2: and much like Canada, so to not have them involved
Speaker 2: as a top five hockey nation would would suck specifically
Speaker 2: for the hockey topic. Like sometimes when I say that
Speaker 2: on a podcast like ours, you'll see people commenting like
Speaker 2: there's a reason they're not involved.
Speaker 4: It's like, bro, I don't know what the.
Speaker 2: Fuck is going on with all this warfare and political
Speaker 2: bullshit politics. Yeah, I got my grade ten. I'm like
Speaker 2: fucking Ricky from Trailer Park Boys for crying out route
Speaker 2: Like I got three percent on my grade eleven math exam.
Speaker 4: I fail. I failed.
Speaker 2: I failed my States and Capital's test for crying out loud,
Speaker 2: So like, don't look at me for that.
Speaker 4: I just want to see good hockey Canada or of
Speaker 4: US US US.
Speaker 3: That's that's understandable. You're not from here.
Speaker 4: Yeah right, thank you, thank you for back.
Speaker 3: That's understandable.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a great guy.
Speaker 3: I mean, there'd be like I would tell you, there's
Speaker 3: probably fifty percent of the NFL that doesn't know all
Speaker 3: the states and can ree.
Speaker 2: And and to be fair, I probably i'd probably fail
Speaker 2: my territory in province a test too if if we
Speaker 2: had it in Canada.
Speaker 5: So uh yeah, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Speaker 2: And also well, going back to my concussions, a lot
Speaker 2: of CT here.
Speaker 3: It's a great thing to blame. It's it's a good card.
Speaker 3: As an ex athlete, you'll usually roll on that one.
Speaker 6: We're gonna name yeah for a living for twelve years
Speaker 6: for syllable word ct C T E y C Yeah no,
Speaker 6: I meant going earlier.
Speaker 4: Yeah sorry c T T yeah T.
Speaker 3: How do you describe this Canada team?
Speaker 5: On Team Canada led by John Cooper as usual, this
Speaker 5: is a heck of a roster led by vets Sidney Crosby,
Speaker 5: Brad marsh On along with three lightning players uh Fords
Speaker 5: were Stack, Conor McDavid, Nathan McKinnon, Mitch Marner, goaltender Bennington,
Speaker 5: just the kid.
Speaker 1: I thought he was. I was watching that game. He
Speaker 1: had like four or five saves that I was like,
Speaker 1: this game should be over. Yeah, he had some like
Speaker 1: unreal saves in overtime and late in like the third
Speaker 1: I think, did he not or he just fucking swiped
Speaker 1: that thing you're bang on?
Speaker 2: And and I don't know how many people listening know
Speaker 2: his story kind of like my trajectory where he's gotten
Speaker 2: a little bit of trouble and and you know, was
Speaker 2: down in the EHL and Ahl and then eventually he
Speaker 2: got recalled halfway through the year, the year that Saint
Speaker 2: Louis won the Stanley Cup, and he just went on
Speaker 2: this incredible tear and and uh, he's actually named after
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. His father named him after Michael Jordan. He
Speaker 2: just kind of has that that pedigree where the bigger
Speaker 2: the moment, the bigger he plays. And uh, he won
Speaker 2: Game seven in the Boston Garden. Uh, and then you know,
Speaker 2: since then has had a great career, but he really
Speaker 2: thrives under pressure and those moments where his regular season
Speaker 2: numbers might not be the best, but if you got
Speaker 2: one game and you need a goalie in that. That's
Speaker 2: that's who I'm picking for Team Canada.
Speaker 3: Nut cutting time.
Speaker 2: That's the guy that's the the been Nasty. They call
Speaker 2: him the Snowman. I don't need to go into that,
Speaker 2: but he's got a lot of fun nicknames and he's
Speaker 2: absolute character off the ice, going up top to John
Speaker 2: Cooper obviously won a couple Cups with the Tampa Bay Lightning.
Speaker 2: I would compare him to like a hockey's version of
Speaker 2: Phil Jackson, not you know, ten championships, but so well spoken,
Speaker 2: so methodical, unreal on the mic, an incredible motivator and
Speaker 2: just really knows how to manage the egos, you know,
Speaker 2: and not to say Canada has egos in the locker room,
Speaker 2: but when you're when you got Cott Crosby's, the McKinnon's
Speaker 2: and the McDavid's and the dogs, you know, you have to,
Speaker 2: you know, find a way to gel all of them together.
Speaker 2: He is the perfect guy for the job, along with
Speaker 2: Rick Tockett. Remember that I mentioned him being on the panel, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was. He should be a Hall of Famer from
Speaker 2: a player standpoint. Uh. He actually is the NHL record
Speaker 2: holder for Gordi Hal Hatricks so a goal and assists
Speaker 2: in a fight, and he was an absolute nail gun
Speaker 2: when he played, Wow, like he could do it all
Speaker 2: This guy was was a machine. So now he's coaching
Speaker 2: after doing the panel and he was the assistant. And
Speaker 2: then the I mean the players we can list off
Speaker 2: like you just did McDavid, absolute electric factory Crosby. I
Speaker 2: believe he will go down as a mount Rushmore player.
Speaker 2: It's hard because the debate is is you have Gordie Howe,
Speaker 2: you have Bobby or Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux. I
Speaker 2: don't know who you take off that list, and most
Speaker 2: people listening might say you're not taking any of them
Speaker 2: off the list, while then we're chiseling out a fifth
Speaker 2: because Sydney Crosby and what he's able to do as
Speaker 2: an layer, and fuck chisel on a six once he
Speaker 2: breaks the goal record, like I don't know, like maybe
Speaker 2: maybe you do a modern day version of it and
Speaker 2: eventually Cale mccarr will be on it because that's just
Speaker 2: how good he is. So and then fucking Nathan McKinnon,
Speaker 2: like you could argue as good as Connor McDavid. Is
Speaker 2: that Nathan McKinnon in the last two year stretch is better.
Speaker 2: He won the MVP last year. He's got his Stanley Cup.
Speaker 2: I believe he did. He win to Konsmith was a
Speaker 2: cal mccarr who got it. But Nathan McKinnon might might
Speaker 2: win another m v P this year. And to watch
Speaker 2: him play, much like McDavid. He is ferocious, He gallops
Speaker 2: on the ice, he will hit guys and he can
Speaker 2: do it all. I actually Bang for Buck would probably
Speaker 2: put McKinnon's slight edge favorite over who to watch more
Speaker 2: so than McDavid. No disrespect to Connor, like I love Connor.
Speaker 2: I just like the fact that McKinnon he is he's
Speaker 2: tapped like MJ. Like he's the guy in the locker room,
Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter if it's his best friend. If
Speaker 2: he doesn't think you're bringing it that day, he'll be like.
Speaker 3: What the fuck are you doing? Move the fucking buck,
Speaker 3: and like that's just how he is. He's the dog.
Speaker 2: He's the dog and everybody has to match his intensity.
Speaker 2: It was good when they had Landeskog on the team
Speaker 2: because he was a perfect balance in the locker room
Speaker 2: guy blue guy to maybe calm him him down a
Speaker 2: little bit. But apparently he will not say a word
Speaker 2: to mccarr, which is actually funny because he's actually younger
Speaker 2: than him. But that just tells you how big of
Speaker 2: a dog mcar is too.
Speaker 3: Who's the team asshole?
Speaker 2: I would say that Marshawn plays a perfect villain and
Speaker 2: is a guy who from a veteran standpoint and the
Speaker 2: fact that he doesn't have to carry the weight as
Speaker 2: so much of a player in that locker room that
Speaker 2: we're looking at right now. He's the guy who probably
Speaker 2: handles all the media and settles the guy down the best,
Speaker 2: and is also chirping the most on the bench.
Speaker 3: You don't want you.
Speaker 2: Don't want Connor or McKinnon having to worry about Josh
Speaker 2: with the other team. You want to have guys who
Speaker 2: are the factors and guys taking the focus away from that.
Speaker 2: I thought hegel did an incredible job against fighting Matthew
Speaker 2: Kuchuck even though he's a little bit undersized, and handle
Speaker 2: himself well in the media as well.
Speaker 4: So Canada had its dogs in the lineup.
Speaker 1: How do you sum up this rivalry Canada US? Now,
Speaker 1: it's got to be at the highest it's ever been.
Speaker 2: I think that that hockey is going to do insane
Speaker 2: numbers at the Olympics in Italy. I also think that
Speaker 2: this experience of controlling the Best on Best tells me
Speaker 2: that the NHL doesn't need the Olympics to grow it
Speaker 2: because you're also in a different time zone. So now
Speaker 2: it's inconveniencing North America, where hockey is at its biggest,
Speaker 2: and also with the best on Best being either in
Speaker 2: North America and or Sweden in Finland, you are in
Speaker 2: the mecca of where hockey can grow the most and
Speaker 2: the most people are watching. And if you do control
Speaker 2: at North America, they were starting the Sweden Finland game
Speaker 2: and the Finland Sweden games even against US and Canada
Speaker 2: at one o'clock, so that's prime time for over there.
Speaker 2: So if I'm the NHL, I focus on making that
Speaker 2: World Cup and controlling that and also keeping it North
Speaker 2: American rules where you're not having Olympic ice, you're allowed
Speaker 2: to fight, because I think that fighting in hockey is
Speaker 2: what differentiates us from other sports and gives us that
Speaker 2: added edge. Considering of the four major sports, it's probably
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the totem pole, but with continuing
Speaker 2: best on Best Olympics and World Cup, I think it
Speaker 2: can continue to claw away and propel at that audience.
Speaker 3: I think your klawon at baseball, bubs, Yeah, baseball's brutal.
Speaker 3: Baseball and basketball are up for the klon.
Speaker 2: It's brutal. I think basketball is such a horrible product now.
Speaker 2: And you know, I think that Lebron and Steph Curry
Speaker 2: and those guys did a great job of carrying the
Speaker 2: league for a long time. But much like the Crosby's
Speaker 2: and the Ovi's, they're handing it off in amazing hands.
Speaker 2: Whereas I don't know if that's the case in basketball
Speaker 2: right now.
Speaker 3: I don't know who.
Speaker 2: I don't know who the next wave are. And that's
Speaker 2: no disrespect to the sport. It's just the time is ours, buddy.
Speaker 3: That is it is.
Speaker 5: Let me do the lead up real quick and blasphe
Speaker 5: this so for a nation's tournament, we all kind of
Speaker 5: know at this point. Newist in Canada played that game
Speaker 5: beforehand on Saturday night start off with three three fights
Speaker 5: going in hot, so anticipation for final in Boston was huge.
Speaker 1: The Trump comments, the boom, this it just all manifested
Speaker 1: into like this was the biggest game.
Speaker 2: And also the WWE approach that the Kuchuck brothers took Canadians.
Speaker 3: Are a little couldn't be a better name away the
Speaker 3: Christkchuck brothers and Walt.
Speaker 2: That's what they call him, Keith Kachuck. There was a
Speaker 2: former Walt Kachuk in the NHL. That's why Keith Chuck's
Speaker 2: name nickname became yeah, And I think that people thought
Speaker 2: it was his kid, but it wasn't. He should be
Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer in his own right. He scored
Speaker 2: five hundred goals. He was very impactful in growing the
Speaker 2: game with the ninety six World Cup of Hockey where
Speaker 2: US shock Canada and that was another moment that propelled
Speaker 2: hockey United States and the growth of it here. And
Speaker 2: just the fact that he passed a torch on to
Speaker 2: his boys. And Canadians handle it a little bit different.
Speaker 2: They're a little bit more silent in their approach. They
Speaker 2: handle their business as such. But in the States you
Speaker 2: have to do things differently. If you're hockey, you have
Speaker 2: to be a little bit more loud mouthed. So the
Speaker 2: fact that they were going on and talking about that
Speaker 2: group chat and yappin, I love that. I think that
Speaker 2: that's the WWE approach And I'm so grateful that they
Speaker 2: did it, because there's a reason that it hits sixty
Speaker 2: million viewers, and they're a big part of that.
Speaker 3: Exactly.
Speaker 1: Now, you got to explain to us this game goes
Speaker 1: back and forth. It goes, you know, one Canada, one US.
Speaker 1: Then Canada hits it up again, the US ties it up,
Speaker 1: they get into ot explain overtime to us or it's.
Speaker 3: The other way around.
Speaker 5: The kidding scored first, followed by the to Chuck Kim.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brady could chuck and he wasn't even supposed to
Speaker 2: play because he was a little banged up, as well
Speaker 2: as Matthew being banged up. And Brady scores his goal
Speaker 2: when obviously he's going to the blue pain and the crease.
Speaker 2: And I thought that Austin Matthews had two great assists
Speaker 2: and he played a tremendous game. And then USA took
Speaker 2: the lead. This kid, Jake Sanderson, who wasn't even supposed
Speaker 2: to be at the tournament, another unbelievable youngster, took Quinn
Speaker 2: Hughes's spot, scores the goal ahead goal. And then Mitchie Marner,
Speaker 2: a Canadian kid who had a lot of pressure coming
Speaker 2: on to him in this game because he'd never really
Speaker 2: lived up to a big moment and he ends up
Speaker 2: making a great playover to Sam the Bennett Menace, who's
Speaker 2: a savage on the ice. He's a savage. He's the
Speaker 2: one who sucker punched Marshawn that series.
Speaker 3: Yeah, who got.
Speaker 4: Away with it? And then that set the table for
Speaker 4: overtime and.
Speaker 3: Now they're playing on the same team.
Speaker 2: McDavid needed a moment in a game like this, and
Speaker 2: you know he got that beautiful pass for Mitchie Marner
Speaker 2: and the slot and you even said it though, going
Speaker 2: back before that, Bennington made three four ten bel saves
Speaker 2: where this game should have been over.
Speaker 1: I thought we were winning like four times. And can
Speaker 1: you explain overtime? What's the world is a golden goals?
Speaker 2: So yeah, it changed because in the round raw and
Speaker 2: it was three on three, which is a rule that
Speaker 2: the NHL adopted to make overtime more.
Speaker 3: Excited, names quicker, probably faster, quicker.
Speaker 2: And more games are ending in overtime as opposed to shootout,
Speaker 2: which I don't like to shootout. So but when you
Speaker 2: go to the gold medal game, you actually go back
Speaker 2: to five on five, the golden goal, first goal to score.
Speaker 2: It's it's game over. And that's the way that hockey
Speaker 2: should be played, especially in a moment like this. And uh,
Speaker 2: you know, Connor McDavid, they had an ozone draw. They
Speaker 2: made a great play along the wall from Cale mccarr
Speaker 2: over to Mitch Marner and he fed McDavid for that
Speaker 2: moment and he didn't.
Speaker 3: Miss so and he was silent the whole game.
Speaker 2: He did not have a great game. He seemed a
Speaker 2: little bit nervous, his reads were off, and he self
Speaker 2: admittedly said that in his postgame press conference. But what
Speaker 2: do big, big players do? Tom Brady didn't have a
Speaker 2: good first half against the Falcons. You didn't either. You
Speaker 2: guys were dog shit shit. But you guys went in
Speaker 2: the locker room, you figured things out. Boom boom.
Speaker 3: You guys, not how you start, always how you finished finished. Baby.
Speaker 5: So, Canada won the first ever Four Nations face off
Speaker 5: three to two in overtime. Nath McKinnon went MVP National
Speaker 5: Emergency in Canada avoided yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now what does this game mean winning for Canada
Speaker 3: winning the first four Nations? Where this could go?
Speaker 1: I mean, is it is it important for Canada, the
Speaker 1: inventor of the sport, to win the first one.
Speaker 3: Just for the record, so this is going to go forever.
Speaker 2: Yeah, based on on on ridicule in the amount of
Speaker 2: comments that would have kime after God.
Speaker 3: Forbid, America would have won the first four nations.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just think it had more to do with the
Speaker 2: fact that, like Canada is is, you know, they're not
Speaker 2: struggling big time right now, but the economy is in
Speaker 2: a bit of a dip. Our dollars not doing good.
Speaker 2: We're changing, we're changing leadership very soon. And you know,
Speaker 2: hockey is the one thing that we get to fall
Speaker 2: back on, and that's our sport. We feel like we're
Speaker 2: the creators of it. If you look at the long
Speaker 2: history of it, we've been very dominant, especially against the
Speaker 2: United States, and you know, that's the one thing we
Speaker 2: can hang our hat on. And when you guys came
Speaker 2: into our building in Canada in Montreal, the mecca of
Speaker 2: hockey along with Toronto, and you punch us in the
Speaker 2: face and then won that game and ran us out
Speaker 2: of the building, we needed a response. So we end
Speaker 2: up winning that gold medal game. But really, as of
Speaker 2: right now, it's one one and that's why the table
Speaker 2: has been set so perfectly for the Olympics, Like this
Speaker 2: isn't over. This is just the beginning of what's about
Speaker 2: to happen. It's just the beginning, just the beginning.
Speaker 3: Let's name this game, and let's score this game, and
Speaker 3: let's see where it ranks in our top one hundred
Speaker 3: games or one hundred games that we've fucking done those.
Speaker 3: We're close to one hundred games. Name of the game,
Speaker 3: the Four Nations Final, Oh, Canada, suck it.
Speaker 4: Suck at kachuck is kind of a funny ring to it.
Speaker 3: The McDavid game, the goal in the garden, our game,
Speaker 3: just the beginning. Or if you have a name that
Speaker 3: you want to call this game, what do you want
Speaker 3: to call it?
Speaker 2: I kept saying, who's your daddy? Because who's your daddy?
Speaker 3: Game? Yeah?
Speaker 4: We made you our little bitch, all.
Speaker 3: Right, put it out? Yeah, who's your daddy? Game? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Score the game? Is this the greatest game of all time?
Speaker 1: Let's score it? Biz stakes zero to ten decimals?
Speaker 3: Okay? The stakes of this Four Nations Final game?
Speaker 2: Oh, I would say ten, ten out of ten.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: It was the most talked about hockey game since the
Speaker 2: twenty ten Olympics. And I want to say that it
Speaker 2: might have surpassed those numbers.
Speaker 1: So ten, you know what, I have to agree, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a high score for me. A nine
Speaker 1: to two, A nine point two, I mean, we haven't.
Speaker 1: This is the most excited I've been about hockey in
Speaker 1: a long time since watching Might we had.
Speaker 2: Trump was talking shit, calling us the fifty first state.
Speaker 2: This meant every thing were so.
Speaker 5: Much geopolitical nature. Always raise that we did the miracle
Speaker 5: on ice game with Jim Craig, and that's always gets
Speaker 5: into that high ten.
Speaker 2: I guess what was going on geopolitically then war? Okay,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm not a history but and I wasn't
Speaker 2: born yet, so my apology.
Speaker 5: Back at home had an eight point six. I had
Speaker 5: eight point four. It's still it's international best and best.
Speaker 5: It's still a brand new tournament, right, It's still not
Speaker 5: a gold medal. I think East been was pumping its
Speaker 5: tires a little too much at the end, but it
Speaker 5: was still awesome, and it was so much better than
Speaker 5: the All Star Game would have been.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what I think that That's what a lot
Speaker 2: of people had a hard time grasping is it was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's kind of this like makeshift fluff event to like
Speaker 2: as a precursor to the Olympics. And also I think
Speaker 2: people are sick of the All Star Game. But it
Speaker 2: wasn't so much what it was coming in, it's what
Speaker 2: it evolved became.
Speaker 5: Yere texting me on Saturday like, oh my god, people
Speaker 5: who don't give me about hockey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 3: I text like all seven of my Canadian friends I had,
Speaker 3: like coming friend he was like worried.
Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I hope this going turns out. Okay, it's gonna be riose.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm technically half Canadian. Oh are you?
Speaker 4: My mother was born in Chicago.
Speaker 3: My mom was My mom was born in Kitchener, Ontario.
Speaker 4: No ship their Kitchener Rangers Kitchener. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1: So star power zero to ten decimals, Okay, the star
Speaker 1: there's fucking stars everywhere in this building.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I would say uh, I would
Speaker 2: say uh a nine point five simply because that you know,
Speaker 2: McAvoy was all line up. Quinn Hughes from my the
Speaker 2: biggest blessing for hockey would be everybody healthy at the.
Speaker 3: Olympilding Captain honorary captain, honorary captain for USA.
Speaker 2: That's where my buddy said, Hey, like AROZIONI did so
Speaker 2: much for USA hockey, but you got him against the
Speaker 2: great one there for Canada. The game was over. We
Speaker 2: knew we had that one in the bag the minute
Speaker 2: that Wayne walked out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with a nine. It's gonna be high.
Speaker 5: At eight point nine. I had a nine point seven,
Speaker 5: just as an homage to Connor McDavid.
Speaker 3: A nine point that's the highest score.
Speaker 5: Using the best. This is best on best, all right,
Speaker 5: I love it.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 5: The only reason it wasn't a perfect ten is if
Speaker 5: because you know International Russia is not in the mix.
Speaker 1: Ooh gameplay zero to ten decim was okay, the gameplay
Speaker 1: you gotta score.
Speaker 2: So the the game that there was three fights, it
Speaker 2: kind of lulled off. But the championship game was incredible.
Speaker 2: Let's go with I'll go with a nine to five
Speaker 2: to two, four to three always more scoring is a
Speaker 2: little bit better, but a couple of league changes and
Speaker 2: over time can't beat it.
Speaker 1: I'm American. I like to see high scoring. That's why
Speaker 1: we do that in all of our sports. Our basketball
Speaker 1: is one fifty to one fifty two. Now our football
Speaker 1: is sixty to sixty one. I want my hockey to
Speaker 1: be at least twelve ten, so I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the eight.
Speaker 5: I want my hockey to be lacrosse jacket a nine
Speaker 5: point one out of eight point eight.
Speaker 3: The name of the game the Who's Your Daddy?
Speaker 2: No, I actually got a better name game. Let's say it,
Speaker 2: Who's your Daddy? Donald?
Speaker 3: Donald?
Speaker 2: Who's gonna get I'm gonna get deported, But I think
Speaker 2: it's a hell of a name.
Speaker 3: Just for anyone out there. Ice, do not come to Brentwood.
Speaker 5: I'm sure they we're gonna be here anyway.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the name of the game. We got to score
Speaker 3: the name well.
Speaker 2: Through the Donald. I think I'm being petty as ship. Hey,
Speaker 2: he could talk his ship, we talk our ship. It's
Speaker 2: just sports. But the name is ten out of ten.
Speaker 2: Suck at Donald. The eleventh Province should.
Speaker 5: Give it eleven for being the eleventh front.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. It's pretty funny. It's pretty funny.
Speaker 4: You're gonna be living in Kitchener pretty soon. If you
Speaker 4: give it a ten.
Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I'm gonna give it a ten. Won't
Speaker 3: give it a ten because I'm American, so I'll give
Speaker 3: it a seven point eight. I'll take it Jack.
Speaker 5: At some point one, I had an eight point seven.
Speaker 3: What is what is our score?
Speaker 5: Final score? Eight point eight nine? Jesus gonna be very high.
Speaker 5: Eight point eight nine. He just puts it in seventh,
Speaker 5: just ahead of the two thousand and four ALCS game
Speaker 5: four Yankees versus Red Sox, and just behind the snowball
Speaker 5: game two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: Fucking love, let's go out of applause.
Speaker 5: Miracle on Ice is still fourth, though, I mean, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: No one's perfect.
Speaker 1: We we kind of bag that we don't have a
Speaker 1: lot of hockey in this but our top ten has
Speaker 1: two hockey games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's diversity if I've ever seen it. Yeah, but
Speaker 5: look it over here. Fifteen, uh fifty eighth overall. Two
Speaker 5: thousand eleven Stanley Cup Final game seven Bruins versus Canucks.
Speaker 5: Not great between two regular season NFL games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty bad.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we can fix that. That was a bad game though, Yeah,
Speaker 5: seven Stanley Cup Finals.
Speaker 3: That's a man of integrity, Yeah, man of integrity. He
Speaker 3: knew the game was bad, and he says it should
Speaker 3: belong there started a riot. They started a riot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. God, they burnt the whole fucking
Speaker 2: city down.
Speaker 3: Biz, we miss anything about this game.
Speaker 1: I mean we covered a recovered it all. It was
Speaker 1: a fun game to cover. Yeah, it was, and it
Speaker 1: was fresh in my memory. I feel like the buzz
Speaker 1: is still in the air.
Speaker 2: That's what I told Pasha. I'm glad we were coming
Speaker 2: over where this just ended. So everything was top of mind.
Speaker 1: And I always get a little nervous with the hockey
Speaker 1: guys because I don't know hockey. Like I know hockey,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, like when you guys are dropping
Speaker 1: top cheese and.
Speaker 3: I need some help.
Speaker 4: I'll be your hockey correspondent from now on.
Speaker 3: You know, I definitely I'm gonna hit you up all
Speaker 3: the time, now, you know.
Speaker 1: I was introduced to hockey when I went to Boston,
Speaker 1: Like I went to a Sharks game in an expansion
Speaker 1: game in nineteen ninety four, oh way, And when they
Speaker 1: first came they were playing at the Cow Palace in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area. They didn't have the stadium in San
Speaker 1: Jose yet, and me and my dad and my brother
Speaker 1: drove up there looking for the game.
Speaker 3: We didn't.
Speaker 1: We out lost and we got there after the second
Speaker 1: period and we're like, cool, we get the second half
Speaker 1: football people we thought it would be. Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: one period of play that That was the introduction to
Speaker 1: my hockey in my life.
Speaker 3: And then I moved to Boston and went to.
Speaker 2: A few So, now where does your loyalty lie with
Speaker 2: the I'm boys with a lot of those guys, Sean Thornton,
Speaker 2: Melon Lucic.
Speaker 3: I just saw last night too. He was the man.
Speaker 3: He's the man.
Speaker 1: We used to hang out a bunch. I have a
Speaker 1: lot of relationships there. You know, Boston is a pretty
Speaker 1: cool pro city town. They're all very you know, intertwined
Speaker 1: and cross pollinating.
Speaker 3: With the love of the sports.
Speaker 4: So I love going back there.
Speaker 2: Like I just feel like it's a great It's a
Speaker 2: big city, but it feels like a community.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a small big city that's exactly too overwhelming. No,
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Speaker 5: Man, Hockey guys.
Speaker 1: Hockey guys guys are all cool, business cool. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: could just tell blue collar, fun to be around, so
Speaker 1: personal too, like just met everyone like, yeah, that's how
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Speaker 3: The Zamboni guy they oh you know GM on the
Speaker 3: zamboni fucking the skate people all they're just they're just
Speaker 3: the boys, you know, they're the good. They're just the boys.
Speaker 3: I don't know why that's that's one of the that's
Speaker 3: like a hockey term. The boy.
Speaker 4: What's the boys?
Speaker 3: The boys?
Speaker 5: The boys?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the boys, the boys?
Speaker 5: What's the boys doing? Also same reading level as you.
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Speaker 3: Oh we got a little story time. Oh the Mountain
Speaker 3: blues from uh what when we went.
Speaker 5: To Last night? We went to l A Skate Baby
Speaker 5: Skate for l A Straw Skate for l A Strong.
Speaker 5: It's a big celebrity skating event for the LA Fires.
Speaker 5: Took place at Crypto dot Com Center Arena, Staples Staples, No,
Speaker 5: it's Crypto Crypto. It was fun.
Speaker 3: It was fun.
Speaker 5: Four teams you brought, Lily, we went. The amount of
Speaker 5: legends that we met that you had no idea who
Speaker 5: they were. It was awesome. I was I was like
Speaker 5: a pig and shit down there. Explain to your experience.
Speaker 5: How did you have a good time?
Speaker 3: I had a great time.
Speaker 1: I mean this was like, this was like my first
Speaker 1: maybe kind of charitable event in La as someone who's
Speaker 1: part of this community now and now this fire was
Speaker 1: like my first go around at this whole thing. And
Speaker 1: we just moved here full time, you know, two years ago,
Speaker 1: and we were really this was devastating. That was devastating
Speaker 1: time like that fire was crazy. It felt you felt helpless,
Speaker 1: and I'll keep reiterating, I was so so proud of
Speaker 1: the people here how they've been able to respond. Like
Speaker 1: I've been watching from kind of like an outsider watching
Speaker 1: in who's been in these kind of situations. I was
Speaker 1: in Boston for the bombing. I saw a community come
Speaker 1: together and fucking battle strength strong. You know, we're gonna
Speaker 1: get better from this thing. I saw that in Boston
Speaker 1: with that, and I'm seeing the same thing here in
Speaker 1: La I've seen so many people give their time, you know.
Speaker 1: The day, like three days after that fire, you know,
Speaker 1: I was getting a bunch of I was going around
Speaker 1: checking it out on my little e bike and stuff.
Speaker 1: And to see the line of cars on San Vicente
Speaker 1: of people in the community who just lost their homes.
Speaker 1: People giving food, clothes to these people, helping out the firefighters,
Speaker 1: the first responders, you know, the firefighters that are going
Speaker 1: in this thing looking like hell. It looked like held
Speaker 1: in a lot of those spots to the National Guard
Speaker 1: and the cops that were keeping things in order. There
Speaker 1: was fucking like full looting going on because people were
Speaker 1: gone so like. It was a fucking crazy time in La.
Speaker 1: And to go to that skate for La Strong event
Speaker 1: to raise money for this by someone who's in this
Speaker 1: community now, it was really cool and I got to
Speaker 1: bring Lily. You know, they're raising a lot of money
Speaker 1: for people that lost their homes, lost a lot like everything,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And it wasn't just rich people, you know, it was
Speaker 3: people of all responders, you know what I mean. That's
Speaker 3: what a lot of these narratives are when you see
Speaker 3: it across the country.
Speaker 1: Oh La, just these movie stars. Nah, there's like some
Speaker 1: regular ass people lost their homes. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: homes lost. And this was a cool event that you know,
Speaker 1: the Kings put on at the Crypto Currency Center in
Speaker 1: a short amount of time that had a really cool turnout.
Speaker 1: Got to see Will Ferrell.
Speaker 5: With Will Farrell. Lily was so fun with she was
Speaker 5: like in awe, you know, you know in Elf when
Speaker 5: you're like when he's when he points the Santa Santa,
Speaker 5: I know him. I was like, Lily, like, now you
Speaker 5: can point that to Elf when you watch him Elf,
Speaker 5: I know him exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she will was awesome.
Speaker 1: We we had a dinner before once at Wahlberg's house
Speaker 1: after the fourteen Super Bowl because he's a Seattle Seahawks fan.
Speaker 3: I think I don't know his uh settle.
Speaker 1: It was a big USC guy's I think he's a
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks fan. But like we've we've met before and
Speaker 1: it was cool to kind of I haven't seen him in.
Speaker 4: A long time.
Speaker 3: Looks great. Yeah, and then unk Uncle Snoop Lily the
Speaker 3: whole ride there because I told her that Snoop might
Speaker 3: be there, and I tell her that I, you know,
Speaker 3: I got to get dad points. And Snoop made me
Speaker 3: look like the coolest dad ever. You know?
Speaker 4: Was he is?
Speaker 5: He He's friends with Pete Carroll from USC.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pete car So there was something. But Uncle Snoop Lily,
Speaker 3: you know, we were listening to Snoop Clean Mix, Snoop
Speaker 3: Clean Mix, Clean Mix, uh before the game on the
Speaker 3: way there, because that's her favorite rapper him and Eminem nice. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know where. I like where. I don't even
Speaker 3: put this on in front of her. She like it's
Speaker 3: when she's it's the kids. But she's at that age
Speaker 3: where she like knows rappers and so Snoop was just
Speaker 3: so charming to her, like like he is, and and
Speaker 3: freaking asked her if he could have a hug, and
Speaker 3: she hugged him and and said can we have a picture,
Speaker 3: and just he's a He's just a cool dude. And
Speaker 3: it was just a fun It was a fun met Countless.
Speaker 3: Also I got to see.
Speaker 1: Slowly and Aaron. Uh, they're really you know, that's the
Speaker 1: real reason I went. They asked me to come. Aaron
Speaker 1: Andrews and and her husband Stole and then uh, I
Speaker 1: mean there was a lot of people there. Yeah, Lily
Speaker 1: got the high five through the glass with Bieber.
Speaker 3: She was all happy.
Speaker 5: Well, she got a puck too, She got a puck
Speaker 5: from Derek Armstrong.
Speaker 3: Armstrong shout out, my guy. It was cool seeing the
Speaker 3: old dudes. Yeah, I love seeing because they can still
Speaker 3: move it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Messia looks still good out there.
Speaker 3: He dude, he looks like how old is he? He's
Speaker 3: got to be sixty. He's not sixty. Might be he
Speaker 3: might be what a freak?
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like even I was really impressed with some
Speaker 1: of the first sixty.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Taylor, Taylor Kitchen. He was great.
Speaker 3: Kitch was really good.
Speaker 5: Stayed home, defenseman. He was good out there, No, Kitch.
Speaker 3: I've been watching him on that American Prime Evil Great
Speaker 3: great show.
Speaker 5: Text Petersburg yet, Yeah, I texted him, Okay, thank you,
Speaker 5: I did.
Speaker 4: I did.
Speaker 3: But it was really cool to see, Like I didn't
Speaker 3: know he was playing in this and I didn't really
Speaker 3: know his name. Yeah, but then I was like, wait
Speaker 3: a minute, is that Prime Evil dude?
Speaker 5: Oh he's way look at you might have been the
Speaker 5: best like actor celebrity athough there was that. There was
Speaker 5: a La Lan guy who I don't really know who.
Speaker 3: There's a little blonde dude. Yeah he had and then
Speaker 3: the social media kid Josh Richard. Josh Yeah pretty good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was good. He was out there like we
Speaker 5: went to uh, yeah, I saw.
Speaker 3: Him flying around. Is he Canadian or something?
Speaker 5: I think he is?
Speaker 3: Yeah, all the that's how you that's how you know
Speaker 3: Kayler Kitchen.
Speaker 5: Is Canadian too. Yeah, you could tell, you could tell about.
Speaker 3: You could just tell.
Speaker 1: If it because we did the family skate before. We
Speaker 1: were skating and Lily was skating.
Speaker 5: That was fun skates. Next time we'll bring our own skates.
Speaker 3: Gotta bring her own.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But how how cool is it to see the like
Speaker 1: because there was a lot of pro players in their families.
Speaker 1: You see like all the little young bucks, like their
Speaker 1: little eight year olds are flying in crazy ship.
Speaker 3: A girl that could barely walk.
Speaker 1: I think, who's the captain Copaitar Copaitar's little daughters. She
Speaker 1: was like, she's like barely walking and then she hops
Speaker 1: up on the skates and she's just fucking flying. She's
Speaker 1: she had to have been two, yeah, maybe three.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The kids were out there too, I mean it was it.
Speaker 1: Was that was just it was really cool to see that.
Speaker 1: I like, you just enjoy hockey. It's a it feels
Speaker 1: fun family Now.
Speaker 5: Matt Lioner was out there in the skate. It was
Speaker 5: actually played. Did that get the competitive Jesus going?
Speaker 3: I kind of thought about it. I saw the way
Speaker 3: he was skating. I was like, maybe I could go
Speaker 3: out if if he's out there, I think I could
Speaker 3: go out there next time. I might have to almost
Speaker 3: start training with fucking biz nasty over here and fucking
Speaker 3: I'll be calling Sean Thornton. Milan's right down the street
Speaker 3: in Manhattan Beach. I saw him there. It was great
Speaker 3: to see him. Yeah, his daughter is so damn big.
Speaker 3: It's so crazy because you know, we haven't you see
Speaker 3: a lot of the people from Boston. We haven't seen
Speaker 3: each other in four years, five years, six, you know, seven,
Speaker 3: eight years. And I remember seeing the kids when they're
Speaker 3: peanuts and then all of a sudden, you know they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
Speaker 3: twenty fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: That's you know, we still have that Boston connection. Anywhere
Speaker 1: we go, they're all the Boston guys, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 5: And then we talked to Kevin bix too, who for
Speaker 5: you deep cut games with names heads when he heads
Speaker 5: an on the on the show, and he told the
Speaker 5: story about how he saw the Canucks lifting the cup
Speaker 5: like as practice. Yeah, and the exit went on like
Speaker 5: national Canadian televisions like that's bullshit. He was talking to
Speaker 5: you about that a little bit.
Speaker 3: He was cool. Yeah, I didn't really know. See I
Speaker 3: felt bad. I don't know the hockey guys that will always.
Speaker 5: We're also with Ron McLean and Ron McLean is like
Speaker 5: an absolute fucking legend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was just and they're always just really
Speaker 1: cool guys. Yeah, that are just like, you know, they're
Speaker 1: like here, they're they're they're all here with the demeanor,
Speaker 1: demeanor and like make you feel comfortable vibe by busting
Speaker 1: your balls or something that you know, they're just hockey dudes,
Speaker 1: got it.
Speaker 5: Ron McLean, who we talked about the broadcasting legend, same
Speaker 5: exact age as Mark Messier. They're both sixty four. Was
Speaker 5: Beaber's good too, skate and you met like Luke Roboti,
Speaker 5: He's a legend. Martin McSorley.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Mc sorely took a picture with the cup.
Speaker 3: Took a picture of the cup of Lil. Been with
Speaker 3: the cup before, Yeah, first time with Lil.
Speaker 5: Yeah, she didn't touch it, just in case.
Speaker 3: He did not touch it. Did not touch that cup.
Speaker 3: We don't we respect, we don't make them, but we
Speaker 3: enforce them.
Speaker 5: That was awesome. Thanks to the La Kings for doing
Speaker 5: that for the community.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awesome. I hopefully they got a great turnout.
Speaker 3: It was awesome seeing all the cops, the firefighters. Yeah,
Speaker 3: shout out to the Mullins. They won, They won. They
Speaker 3: were fucking good too. He's a little just they're they're
Speaker 3: two SOUTHI Southie boys and they're like high ups in
Speaker 3: the fire department out here and they're just fucking wrecking
Speaker 3: shop on the ice.
Speaker 1: It was fucking awesome. Yeah, it was cool. Like there's
Speaker 1: a good ask. I think there was a cop goalie
Speaker 1: that was really good. Was he the red goalie? Who
Speaker 1: was the red goalie?
Speaker 4: Red?
Speaker 5: I don't think I'll let up a goal the whole team.
Speaker 1: I don't know who that was, but he was money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw one. I think it was a cop. He
Speaker 1: had a fool food man chew. He looks so cool
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 4: And then the one.
Speaker 5: Those of like the weird mustache people are often firefighters
Speaker 5: because that's the only ficial here they can have for
Speaker 5: their masks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: My only regret from this evening was we didn't get
Speaker 5: to see our games with names. Friend of the show, Danvidvito.
Speaker 3: I know he didn't get to see Vince Vaughan. Love
Speaker 3: Vince Vaughan.
Speaker 5: Well, when you play next time, he'll be in there.
Speaker 3: He's funny with sport talk.
Speaker 5: He'd be great.
Speaker 3: I think he would be an unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Guest just on watching him in the breakup talk about
Speaker 1: the little digital people in the Madden game when he's
Speaker 1: beating the ship out of some twelve year old while
Speaker 1: his girls getting mad, Jennifer getting all mad at him.
Speaker 3: He's over here talking ship. He's like prime shit talker
Speaker 3: to this little twelve year old kid. He's beating the
Speaker 3: ship out of Matt and I love.
Speaker 5: He's the best.
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Speaker 3: Guys, what a game that was. I'm like hockeyed up.
Speaker 3: I want more hockey.
Speaker 5: I connected with the King's PR guy. He might he
Speaker 5: might get us some kings.
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm just hockeyed up. Man.
Speaker 5: Also, Bizz after the show said he'd hook us up
Speaker 5: with some people. We need to follow up on that.
Speaker 5: You get his number, Well, we got it.
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