WEBVTT - The 4 Nations Final with Paul Bissonnette | Canada vs. USA

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<v Speaker 1>Are you watching film of fighting guys like guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you potentially fight, Like I know this guy, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>pull my jersey, probably give me a right hook or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So fortunately enough for me at the time where I

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<v Speaker 2>started doing it, like YouTube was a thing and I

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<v Speaker 2>could study that way where the olden days they had

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<v Speaker 2>to find like the VHS tapes. And also fortunately for me,

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in the NHL, I wasn't having to

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<v Speaker 2>scrap the old fighters of the past where they would

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<v Speaker 2>grab on and they would just go punch in the

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<v Speaker 2>face match where there was no defense none.

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<v Speaker 3>It was I watch it every time, like these guys

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<v Speaker 3>take two or three off the face and just keep going.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was more of a defensive fighter where you

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<v Speaker 2>look back and I'm just so grateful if I was

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<v Speaker 2>playing in the seventies, like my nose would be on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of my head, ye, and I probably

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<v Speaker 2>would be like eating through a two at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Games with Names.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Julian Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>on a mission to find the greatest game of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>And on today's episode, we're covering the Fresh four Nations

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<v Speaker 1>final USA versus Canada with former NHL winger, host of

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<v Speaker 1>Spitting chick Lits and the man they call biz Nasty,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Bizanette, and we get into talking this Canada America rivalry.

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<v Speaker 2>When you guys came into our building and you punched

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<v Speaker 2>us in the face and then won that game, we

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<v Speaker 2>needed a response. This isn't over. This is just the beginning.

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<v Speaker 3>The craft of fighting in hockey.

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<v Speaker 2>I would go on the ice, top him on the

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<v Speaker 2>shin pads and say, hey, let's go mother. I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to provide a spark to our team, like let's get

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<v Speaker 2>this crowd into it and let's get going.

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<v Speaker 3>And what it's like to play with Sydney Crosby, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Goats, playing with a guy who was obsessed with the

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<v Speaker 2>game and if the level wasn't at the level he

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<v Speaker 2>would be barking.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're talking about our night at skate for La

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<v Speaker 1>Strong in the chill Zone by Coors Light. You gotta

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<v Speaker 1>stick around to the very end. Let's Go Games with

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<v Speaker 1>Names is a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 3>February twenty first, twenty twenty five td GTTEN, Boston, Massachusetts.

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<v Speaker 3>The tournament is new, but the rivalry is as old

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<v Speaker 3>as it gets the best of America versus the best

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<v Speaker 3>of Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Four Nations Final.

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<v Speaker 1>Today, we have a very special guest and we are

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<v Speaker 1>looking at probably one of the most crazy. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>craziest popular All Star event I've ever witnessed. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about the Four Nations face off championship game between

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<v Speaker 1>Canada and the US with the one and only Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Bizinette in one sentence, why did you pick this game?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I kind of want to pick both, not only

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<v Speaker 2>the championship game, but the round robin game that had

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<v Speaker 2>three fights in the first nine seconds, so we can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of go all over the board. But what an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing time for hockey right now. It's just on an

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<v Speaker 2>absolute heater, not only the Four Nations, but now all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, you go back to regular season and

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<v Speaker 2>Ovechin gets a hat trick in his second game back

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<v Speaker 2>after the break, where he's thirteen goals away from breaking

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<v Speaker 2>Wayne Gretzky's goal record.

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<v Speaker 4>Who would have ever fucking thought.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I'm not a hockey guy and I'd never even

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<v Speaker 3>thought that would happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>It's That's why I just feel like there's so many

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<v Speaker 2>casual sports fans right now that have become addicted to

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<v Speaker 2>hockey just based on, you know, the energy that guys

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<v Speaker 2>are putting into it, you know how they're so relatable,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course just the action. It's eighty two games,

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<v Speaker 2>but guys show up much like football guys. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>they put on the gear and they're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And regardless of it being a quote unquote all star

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<v Speaker 2>format at the Four Nations, these guys were scrapping for

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<v Speaker 2>each other's countries.

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<v Speaker 3>Was this the greatest game of all time? So?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that this championship game will go down

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<v Speaker 2>at least as one of my favorites. As far as

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<v Speaker 2>a rating standpoint, it was the most viewed non Olympic

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<v Speaker 2>game in hockey's history. So for what it did for

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<v Speaker 2>the game and the way that it just kind of

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<v Speaker 2>reached out for our sport, I would probably put it

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<v Speaker 2>as my number one. At this point. That might be

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<v Speaker 2>recency bias. A lot of people might be shaking their head,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't, off the top of my head think

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<v Speaker 2>of a more anticipated game in my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 3>As a casual puckhead. I couldn't agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>More cultural impact of this specific game I mean, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not even going to get to see how big it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to create because we're so fucking fresh off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But like that put the All Star weekend basketball, it like.

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<v Speaker 3>Slapped that down, Like it was like the step son,

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<v Speaker 3>the redheaded step son. And it also it made me,

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<v Speaker 3>as a football player, be disappointed in our All Star

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<v Speaker 3>Game and our Pro Bowl shit, whatever our activities. And

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<v Speaker 3>it has to do with how the players came out

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<v Speaker 3>and fucking showed up. Man, It's one thing I've always

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<v Speaker 3>admired about the hockey boys. Yeah, like they're just they're

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<v Speaker 3>fucking a bunch a group of dudes that like to

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<v Speaker 3>work hard, drink beer, fuck with each other bus balls,

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<v Speaker 3>hate each other in between the ice, but then be

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<v Speaker 3>able to enjoy a pine after. Man, it's fucking this

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<v Speaker 3>was fucking awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Hockey culture is a very special place, and like even

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<v Speaker 2>the reason I'm in town is because I played with

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<v Speaker 2>the La Kings organization. They had a ten year anniversary

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<v Speaker 2>for our Calder Cup winning the Miners. But it just

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<v Speaker 2>so happens that they threw this this charity event in

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<v Speaker 2>the last four weeks they put it together and it

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<v Speaker 2>was for all the victims of the fires. Yeah, people

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<v Speaker 2>who displaced from their homes obviously the first responders in

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<v Speaker 2>la FD, so they were able to do this. So

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<v Speaker 2>just the hockey community coming together along with celebrities. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just an awesome culture and it's continuing to thrive, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just so happens it was on NBA All Star weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>So I just feel like all the world's collided where

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<v Speaker 2>everybody wanted to shit on the NBA and maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>of their stars attitude towards showing up for the full

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<v Speaker 2>eighty two game season, and then the way that hockey

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<v Speaker 2>really treated this four nation's face off. So it was

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<v Speaker 2>an incredible, credible event. And as I were, you dialed

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<v Speaker 2>in the whole time, like, did you watch the full

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<v Speaker 2>sixty minutes of the final?

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<v Speaker 3>I watched.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the first two goals and I was sidetracked,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I got back into overtime and I saw

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<v Speaker 1>fucking mcjesus.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he wouldn't even do anything all game. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it that well.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm what were you sidetracked with?

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<v Speaker 3>I was? I don't know. I think it was like

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<v Speaker 3>eating a brito or I.

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<v Speaker 5>Feel like you have add like terrible I thinks I

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<v Speaker 5>think you were sending memes during the third period.

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<v Speaker 3>I was maybe setting memes about the game to my

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<v Speaker 3>friend talking ship all my fucking Canadian friends. We got this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it didn't work out. No, no, it didn't. It

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<v Speaker 3>didn't work.

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus came through.

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<v Speaker 2>He needed, uh, he needed a moment like that because, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe there's a little criticism on whether he can win

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<v Speaker 2>the big one, but I think that will catapult him.

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<v Speaker 2>And they have a very strong team in Edmonton, so

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<v Speaker 2>they might they might be hoisting the Stanley Cup this year.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see that for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll get into the teams. But how how cool

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<v Speaker 1>was that l a skate yesterday? You know, like just.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know I got to see you know, Uncle Snoop,

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<v Speaker 3>my little I brought my daughter and she was just

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<v Speaker 3>in in in an awe of Snoop will Ferrell.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks his elf. Uh, and she did a little

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<v Speaker 1>high We were sitting on the glass and and Beebes

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<v Speaker 1>gave her a little high five. She almost Yeah, she

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<v Speaker 1>had a and we got a puck from uh who

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<v Speaker 1>was Eric Armstrong? Armstrong Armstrong gave us a puck. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I had so much fun watching the old boys,

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<v Speaker 1>like just hockey guys, likes like they didn't lose any

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<v Speaker 1>of it, Like they may have lost explosion, but they

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<v Speaker 1>could still go out and fucking play like that was

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<v Speaker 1>so cool to watch him.

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<v Speaker 5>And Mess is working out every morning. He has a

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<v Speaker 5>fucking machine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he could still play in the league, especially

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<v Speaker 2>for how soft some of these guys are nowadays, that

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<v Speaker 2>he would, he would still run show. And uh, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just such a great ambassador for a game. And even

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<v Speaker 2>after the career he had kind of like you, he

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<v Speaker 2>transitioned into media and he's crushing on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 4>PK. Sue Ben was there.

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<v Speaker 2>Looked a little rusty last night. Who messeddk oh PK. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well he's too busy doing all the media. He probably

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't hop on the skates much anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>So you lose it. You lose it if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>on the skates.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Hockey is the one thing where you could

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<v Speaker 2>run and work out twice a day. But if you're

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<v Speaker 2>not on your edges and on your blades, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>little little must groups that you just have a real

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<v Speaker 2>hard time finding if you're not on the ice. And

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I tore both my acls and my last season,

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<v Speaker 2>so I haven't really stayed in both.

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<v Speaker 5>Buddy, both I tore my no on one play no

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<v Speaker 5>I tore.

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<v Speaker 4>I tore my right one.

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<v Speaker 2>Of all that, that's a real bender right there, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like an official vendor status.

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<v Speaker 4>So I was trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To keep up to these young guys, right the game

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<v Speaker 2>is constantly evolving, the players are getting faster and faster.

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<v Speaker 2>So I tore my right one, and I knew it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be my last year, so I prehabbed

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<v Speaker 2>it to try to come back and finish the season.

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<v Speaker 2>So finally did so, came back, tweaked it again the

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<v Speaker 2>first game back. Took another like month to prehabit. Came

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<v Speaker 2>back in my first game back. Were in San Jose.

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<v Speaker 2>Playned the Barracuda and that's the San Jose Sharks farm team.

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<v Speaker 2>They have like one hundred people in the crowd. I

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<v Speaker 2>go to battle for a puck and then boom on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side, and I felt it go and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>never forget. I went over to the trainer who'd been

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<v Speaker 2>helping me prehab the other one. I go, mearsy, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I just tore my other acl. He goes, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck are you talking about there's no way. So

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<v Speaker 2>I sat on the bench the rest of that period

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<v Speaker 2>went in between. He looked at it and he's like, gone,

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<v Speaker 2>mcl a cl So I'm walking around with two torn acls.

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<v Speaker 2>I ended up getting surgery in my left after the

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<v Speaker 2>season and that was it. Never even bothered repairing my right.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a tough way to go. I actually,

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<v Speaker 2>once I tore it, I'm like, fuck it. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to make myself useful. So I fought this Zach Stirteini guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I was like Bambi out there. I

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<v Speaker 2>could barely stand up. But I figured I'd make myself

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<v Speaker 2>useful and I'll never forget my head coach, who i'd

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<v Speaker 2>won a championship that I mentioned earlier with the Calder

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<v Speaker 2>Cup played for him in junior, and he came into

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<v Speaker 2>the trainer's room and he's like, what's what's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I go STATSI I tore the other one and we

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<v Speaker 2>had we shedded a tier. It was sad because I

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<v Speaker 2>knew my career was over, but it was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>Uh it's just funny that that's the way that my

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<v Speaker 2>career ended.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very just a plug, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, press box junkie when I played in the NHL

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<v Speaker 2>and just kind of going out in style.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you went till the wheels fell off literally

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<v Speaker 1>literally literally Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And you gotta fight on the way out.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's another thing that impresses me is the balance

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys have when you're fighting, because fighting on

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<v Speaker 1>ground is tough. Yeah, when you're fighting on fucking skates,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's that's crazy. Which celebrity did you think had

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<v Speaker 1>the best game last night?

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think Bieber is pretty silky. Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's he's got a little bit of the ankle bender going,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's got silky mits. So I would probably put

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<v Speaker 2>him at the top of the list.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>He just needs to work on his toughness. Although I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Jeremy Roona kind of let him win that

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<v Speaker 2>fight to get his confidence going. But uh, just cool

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he was there.

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<v Speaker 3>Roner, could he would have hit If he would have

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<v Speaker 3>hit Bieber, I mean that could have been bad for

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<v Speaker 3>every little girl in his family. They would have hated.

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<v Speaker 4>Him, They would have definitely disowned him.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, yeah, wife and all for Yeah, but uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean just going back to the four Nations and like

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<v Speaker 2>even the scrapping, Like, I don't know if you know

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<v Speaker 2>the Kuchuck brothers at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know them personally.

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<v Speaker 4>Boston guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Boston guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I know them though what they dad was a Boston

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<v Speaker 1>guy and they were everywhere because of the dead.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Did you hear about the round robin game.

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<v Speaker 2>And how they fought in the first three? Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>how they basically pre planned that?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, how they do that? Explain that?

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<v Speaker 2>So we were in Montreal, the mecca hockey of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and like rumblings were coming out that they had said

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<v Speaker 2>that they were going to turn the Bell Center upside down.

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<v Speaker 2>The Kuchucks had already said that. So obviously we're going

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<v Speaker 2>in with the anticipation that there's going to be like

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of hits. It's going to be a very

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<v Speaker 2>intense game. By no means did we expect them to

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<v Speaker 2>drop the gloves off the opening face off. So then

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<v Speaker 2>the melee ensues right off the opening drop. Matthew Kuchuck

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<v Speaker 2>ends up fighting Brandon Hegel. Then three seconds later, his brother,

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<v Speaker 2>Brady Kuchuck ends up fighting Matthew's teammate Sam Bennett, who's

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<v Speaker 2>very close with So holy shit, we got two scraps.

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<v Speaker 2>This is pretty much start to a hockey game of

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<v Speaker 2>all time and then boom another one.

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<v Speaker 4>JT. Miller goes after Parenko.

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<v Speaker 2>So after the game and the postgame press conference, they

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<v Speaker 2>said that they had a text chain going that said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>let's fucking get this thing going tonight. So they had

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<v Speaker 2>essentially pre planned it, the three of them, and they

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<v Speaker 2>got the fireworks started, and it was a great rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the game. Like Charlie McAvoy under Boston Boy, he

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<v Speaker 2>was laying out McDavid and that really is what propelled

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation to what ended up being the finals. So

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<v Speaker 2>you could either go to the championship game that got

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<v Speaker 2>over sixty million viewers, but I, for me, I look

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<v Speaker 2>back at that WWE style start to the round robin

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<v Speaker 2>game to what propelled the hockey and where it's at

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<v Speaker 2>in the last two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Now without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, those that three fight game that put in

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's radar, what the fuck is this for nations thing?

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<v Speaker 2>And the fact that like you know, football is over right,

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<v Speaker 2>Football is a juggernaut. There's no taking viewership away from that.

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<v Speaker 2>Butter with the Super Bowl and not really much going

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<v Speaker 2>on with the NBA, I mean, other than like the

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<v Speaker 2>shitty All Star game they got going, everybody's just craving

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<v Speaker 2>some type of sport. So the timing of it all

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<v Speaker 2>was just perfect for the NHL. And by the start

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<v Speaker 2>of the game to the end of the game, it

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<v Speaker 2>was the conversation on Twitter. It's all anybody was talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>even if they knew nothing about hockey. They were just

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<v Speaker 2>so invested in the hatred between USA and Canada, which

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<v Speaker 2>at this point you could obviously put the Russians, the Swedes,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Fins at the top of the list, but

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<v Speaker 2>the two leading hockey nations in the world right now

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<v Speaker 2>are in North America, and it's exciting times.

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<v Speaker 1>It is exciting times. It's really fun as an American

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<v Speaker 1>to see that we're even put into that sentence, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know how Canada fucking loves their hockey, love it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's their sport.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's probably a lot of Americans watching

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<v Speaker 2>this right now. I don't think people understand how important

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<v Speaker 2>that was from a moral perspective. I think right now,

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<v Speaker 2>from an economy perspective, Canada's in a bit of a dip.

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<v Speaker 2>Leadership will be changing, you know, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>get into politics too much. Like I took the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>first state comments and then the tariff things as like

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<v Speaker 2>more like chirps from Trump and we're a very sensitive nation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that that just really propelled the political

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<v Speaker 2>climate of the game. And then the booing of the anthems.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was the perfect amount of political spice for

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<v Speaker 2>the game.

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<v Speaker 4>Not too much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't like politics and sports like to be overbearing.

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<v Speaker 1>Without a doubt, And we'll get more into the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But take us through your journey, your hockey journey. You

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<v Speaker 1>played twelve years. You battled back and forth from you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the triple As to the big I'm sorry if I

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<v Speaker 1>I fowed up the terminology, yeah, and so take us

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<v Speaker 1>through your journey.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I was a pretty decent junior player. I was

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<v Speaker 5>a defenceman.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually was able to represent my country playing under

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen for Team Ontario and then under eighteen was Team Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>I played both of them World Championship, was able to

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<v Speaker 2>win gold both times. Was drafted by the Pittsburgh Penguins

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<v Speaker 2>and got in a little bit of trouble early on

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<v Speaker 2>in my career. Like you go from living with a

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<v Speaker 2>billet family and junior to all of a sudden, you

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<v Speaker 2>sign a contract, you have money, you're living on your own,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, probably was drinking and partying a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit too much.

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<v Speaker 4>So I started off my career.

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<v Speaker 2>And professional in the EHL, basically the lowest league, and

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<v Speaker 2>slowly worked my way up, and after getting in a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more trouble, basically was in the coast and

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<v Speaker 2>thought my career was over. And then from at that

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<v Speaker 2>point I was a defenseman and they called me up

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<v Speaker 2>to the AHL and they said, we're going to make

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<v Speaker 2>you a fourth line fighter. And I had a decision

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<v Speaker 2>to make at that point in time whether I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to do that or stay stubborn and stay as a defenseman.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, you know, fuck it, If this is

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<v Speaker 2>my only path to maybe get into the NHL, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So I started scrapping. I got beat up a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I had back to back seasons where I fought thirty times,

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<v Speaker 2>and guys at that time in the A were taking steroids.

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting shit kicked out of myself, and eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>just from playing that position and sticking at it, I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up finally making the bigs with Pittsburgh.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got to team make it though unreal.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to play with Sidney Crossy, have Genny malk

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<v Speaker 2>and Marc Andre Fleury. You know, just those memories alone

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<v Speaker 2>were unbelievable, even though I was only there for about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty six games, played fifteen and then the following season,

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<v Speaker 2>I was old enough where I got sent down, but

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<v Speaker 2>I could get picked up by Waivers, so I got

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<v Speaker 2>to go over to Phoenix, who put in acclaim for

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<v Speaker 2>me and played.

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<v Speaker 4>Five years there, lived out my dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Ended up starting Twitter when I was there, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where the whole social media career started and then ended

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<v Speaker 2>up finishing off my career in the American Hockey League.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was one of those guys where I was

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<v Speaker 2>a borderline NHLer and I was just grateful to be

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<v Speaker 2>there and was able to play with so many amazing

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<v Speaker 2>teammates and made so many friends in Arizona, one of

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<v Speaker 2>which is another Boston guy, keith Yandle who's now on

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<v Speaker 2>our Spit and Chiccklets podcast. But yeah, it was a whirldwin.

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<v Speaker 2>Grateful to be there and just grateful to transition it

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<v Speaker 2>into media and stick around the game and also.

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<v Speaker 4>Have a purpose after my playing career yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you clearly did that. I mean you still

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<v Speaker 1>played twelve years at a professional sport. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you did something amazing where you didn't just become a

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian kid that went back to the house and did

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<v Speaker 1>nothing with no with his life. You did something else

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're known for something else other than being

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<v Speaker 1>an athlete.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm always interested in more and what life has

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<v Speaker 2>to offer. So as much as I love my hometown

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<v Speaker 2>of well In, Ontario, I always knew there was more

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<v Speaker 2>out there and more I wanted to do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Reason why at sixteen years old when I was drafted

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<v Speaker 2>to junior, like I moved away from home and I

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<v Speaker 2>lived at the Bill family. I never even called home

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<v Speaker 2>for the first three weeks while we had training camp

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff, like I dove right in. I didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>home stick because I knew that, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to achieve anything in life, you were going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to, you know, go outside your comfort zone and

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<v Speaker 2>do it. And I was also like things happened for

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<v Speaker 2>a reason too, Like I was in Pittsburgh, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, a very respected organization, and not to

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<v Speaker 2>say Arizona wasn't but Arizona was was a team where

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't mind getting any type of publicity. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was able to start out a Twitter account and be

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute donkey online, like with the shit that I

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<v Speaker 2>was doing and saying and tweeting. I was going on

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<v Speaker 2>Lake local radio stations and like, they hooked me up

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<v Speaker 2>with this girl, Bibby Jones, So I guess I'm actually

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<v Speaker 2>Eskimo Brothers with Gronk. I hate to throw them under

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<v Speaker 2>the bus, but she actually posted a she actually posted

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<v Speaker 2>a photo of them, and then she asked me for

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<v Speaker 2>a photo to post and I was like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I want that smoke right, And then she went

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<v Speaker 2>on the local radio the next morning and put me

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<v Speaker 2>on blast.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, just all what year is this?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this is probably like two thousand and eleven. So

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<v Speaker 2>so the shit that I was able to get away

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<v Speaker 2>with and droll my own personal social channels based on

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<v Speaker 2>playing in Arizona and the fact that they wanted publicity,

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<v Speaker 2>it just worked out perfectly. And that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 2>got me my start into the media, where I started

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<v Speaker 2>getting more opportunities and offers to do these one off videos.

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<v Speaker 2>And then by the time I retired, I got my

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<v Speaker 2>buddy here, Pasha. I dove right into it. I did

0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:25.920
<v Speaker 2>this film project called Biz DOESBC. So, yeah, is it awkward?

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<v Speaker 2>And it was, you know, it was very silly at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, but it taught me a lot about what

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<v Speaker 2>I needed to know in the backside after retiring. So

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<v Speaker 2>just a world win of a career in a transition,

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<v Speaker 2>But wouldn't change it for the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking it's been fun to I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have the playing career that you had. I was in

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<v Speaker 2>the press box more. I had more healthy scratches in

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<v Speaker 2>my career than games played.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah, still you still made do with what

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<v Speaker 3>you had. That's it, and that's what you could continue

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.280
<v Speaker 3>to preach when you talk.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also a lesson for like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>kids out there, Like everybody drafted when they're playing junior,

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<v Speaker 2>we're probably the stars of their team, right Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>you know at a certain point you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the star and you have to make a sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you okay being the fourth line peasant who's getting

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<v Speaker 2>healthy scratched. If you're not willing to put your ego aside,

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<v Speaker 2>there's other guys who will, and there's positions for those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad at the time I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>make that decision. It just kind of happened naturally, like

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, who knows. Maybe going back, if it

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<v Speaker 2>would have happened again it was the wrong day, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I would have been stubborn about it, but just grateful

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<v Speaker 2>that that's the path I chose and I was accepting

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<v Speaker 2>of that and it led to all this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what people don't realize is the different ego slots

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room for a professional athlete. Being a

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<v Speaker 1>role player, you have to swallow your pride, do everything,

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<v Speaker 1>have mental toughness, do what's best for the team, win

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<v Speaker 1>it may not be best for you, and be that

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<v Speaker 1>role guy and love doing that. The fullback going out

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<v Speaker 1>and blowing out his head every day in practice, like

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that he'll never touch the ball, but that's just

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<v Speaker 1>like that's a big thing. How like talk us through

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<v Speaker 1>that transition mentally when you go from defenceman to fourth

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<v Speaker 1>line fighter, Like, and how does that transition go?

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<v Speaker 3>Do did you go to boxing camp?

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<v Speaker 5>Or like?

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<v Speaker 3>How the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>So? When I, even when I was playing junior, I

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<v Speaker 2>liked handling my own business. Yeah, but that would be

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<v Speaker 2>about five six times a year and normally against other

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<v Speaker 2>guys who were playing more so they weren't like just

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<v Speaker 2>specifically heavyweight scrappers. So it was hard just because I

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<v Speaker 2>was getting used to fighting these guys who, like some

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<v Speaker 2>guys were on steroids and they were just a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more experience, have been doing it since they were kids.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I took boxing lessons in the summertime and

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<v Speaker 2>prepared as much as possible, but it was hard, and

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.600
<v Speaker 2>at that time, like there was no social media, so

0:22:47.640 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>you were getting there was really no way to escape it.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd get beat up, you'd get on the bus, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>travel four hours that night to the next city, and

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<v Speaker 2>you kind of just be sitting there in your seat

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<v Speaker 2>like half concussed, you know, wondering like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>I got to do this again tomorrow night.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was definitely a transition and a hard

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<v Speaker 2>process to start to understand. But it just taught me

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<v Speaker 2>a lot about like adversity and how to deal with

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<v Speaker 2>that type of stuff and really prepared me for what

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<v Speaker 2>was to come for.

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<v Speaker 4>After my career.

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<v Speaker 2>So great life lessons to learn, like getting the shit

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<v Speaker 2>kicked out of yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can you got to walk us beat for beat

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<v Speaker 1>on how a fight goes down in hockey as casual

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<v Speaker 1>as casual, like, is it a fucking look?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you guys talking to each other on the ice?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like just is it just drop them in?

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<v Speaker 1>Fucking go?

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<v Speaker 3>So what is this? Walk us through this?

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason I love to do it the most

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<v Speaker 2>was to protect my teammates, especially when they were being

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<v Speaker 2>taken advantage of. And that was the one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>made it a lot easier when I was going through

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<v Speaker 2>all that. And you know, fighting three thirty times a

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<v Speaker 2>year for the first time, is how appreciative your teammates are.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you know, let's say one of our skill

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<v Speaker 2>players gets ran by one.

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<v Speaker 4>Of these types of players.

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<v Speaker 3>It's what ran.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, Let's say he goes back for a puck and

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<v Speaker 2>that guy takes a run and I'm like, lays out

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<v Speaker 2>a big hit on him, Like there's nothing more than

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<v Speaker 2>I want to get on the ice and go challenge

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<v Speaker 2>that guy to get retribution for that hit he just

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<v Speaker 2>throw through or if he's like slashing him and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to take advantage of him. So that to me is

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<v Speaker 2>where I would go on the ice, tap him on

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<v Speaker 2>the shin pads and say, hey, let's go, motherfucker.

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<v Speaker 4>Or maybe you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, we were down three to one at home, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the energy and the building is flat and

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<v Speaker 2>our guys aren't really going. I'm trying to provide a

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<v Speaker 2>spark to our team, like let's get this fucking crowd

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<v Speaker 2>into it and let's get going. That would be another

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<v Speaker 2>time where I would line up at a face off

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<v Speaker 2>and ask a guy to go. So most of the

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<v Speaker 2>time it was just tapping a guy in the shin

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<v Speaker 2>pads and saying, hey, let's let's throw down.

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<v Speaker 3>And what do they ever say now?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, typically if your team's ahead, you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to lose momentum, so.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't want to get the power play, you don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to get pedaled.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because especially if I'm chasing around the ice and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tapping him on the shin pads, then I would

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten an instigator penalty. You have to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more subtle about it, where like you're like off,

0:25:03.440 --> 0:25:05.360
<v Speaker 2>a face off is when you just verbally say hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you want one, And half the time a guy who

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<v Speaker 2>had whose team has a lead, will be like, no,

0:25:10.800 --> 0:25:13.480
<v Speaker 2>coach said no. Coach said no, And my coach would

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 2>say the same thing to me, you go a biz,

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<v Speaker 2>we got all the momentum, leave it alone. And it

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<v Speaker 2>sucked because sometimes the guy would be tapping on the

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<v Speaker 2>shin pad and and kind of calling you out in

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<v Speaker 2>front of your crowd. And some people they don't give

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck about the momentum. They paid for their ticket

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<v Speaker 2>and they want to see people get their face punched in,

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<v Speaker 2>So that sucked. But oftentimes, and that guy, if he

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<v Speaker 2>really wanted one, then he would take a run at

0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:39.000
<v Speaker 2>one of my teammates and then it was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now it's no more questions asked.

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<v Speaker 4>We're fucking going yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Now what's the difference between a fighter and an agitator?

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<v Speaker 1>Because we just had Sean Avery on yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to clarify talk.

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<v Speaker 4>About another guy who had a great transition out of playing.

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<v Speaker 3>He's fucking doing another Nolan movie.

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<v Speaker 4>He is. He is an unreal ad. He's he's very

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<v Speaker 4>disciplined to.

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<v Speaker 1>He's part of my neighborhood watch for my daughter's house.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives in the same neighborhood. And so remember that

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<v Speaker 1>TMZ TMZ video that came out of him yelling at

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<v Speaker 1>the kid yes, and that was right by my house.

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<v Speaker 1>No ship yeah, he's gotten in a few Donnie Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>off the Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got I.

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<v Speaker 3>Love having him up there. But it makes my kid

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 3>feel safe. And he's doing all the jiu jitsu stuff. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like godd he's pretty to be an agitator, though

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<v Speaker 3>he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was probably one of the best ever to agitate.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I know you had him on recently he

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the bro Dure stuff. Sean would say some

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<v Speaker 2>insane ship to people on pace, like places that I

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<v Speaker 2>would not go if like if if Yeah, it's just

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:46.879
<v Speaker 2>some of the ship he said.

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<v Speaker 4>Your jaw would drop and you'd be like, oh my god.

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:51.639
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't want to be in a relationship if I

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<v Speaker 2>was playing against Sean Avery Like, I might even divorce

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<v Speaker 2>my wife before I played against him, just to avoid

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<v Speaker 2>the type of insults that he would throw. But he

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 2>was very good at like picking his spots and then

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<v Speaker 2>knowing when to rile the other team up and then

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<v Speaker 2>not fighting. So he was a master of his craft.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he left the league with a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of friends, but I don't also think he gives a shit.

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<v Speaker 4>He runs a tight ship. He's got a tight group,

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:18.480
<v Speaker 4>and that's all he cares about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so the fighter and the agitator is different.

0:27:22.800 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like he he was also a very good player

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<v Speaker 2>when he focused on playing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he could.

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:31.680
<v Speaker 2>He was a very reliable third line player, and even

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 2>in some cases he could go up and down the lineup,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you needed Sean to play on the first

0:27:35.840 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 2>line for a night, he could fit in. Maybe not

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 2>sustainably for a twenty game stretch, but for me, I

0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>was just more of a knuckle dragger. Where I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the most minutes I ever played in the game, I'll

0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>never forget it. It was eleven minutes in Edmonton. I

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>had to assist that game, and I felt like I

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 2>needed to be in a body cast the next day

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 2>because even playing eleven minutes and keeping up to these

0:27:58.080 --> 0:28:01.840
<v Speaker 2>world class athletes like that was my not my jam.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was comfortable with my five to six minutes

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:08.200
<v Speaker 2>knuckle dragon fourth line. Dump it in, dump it out, Ay, boys,

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 2>change it up, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you watching film of fighting guys like guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you potentially fight, like I know this guy, he's gonna

0:28:15.240 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>pull my jersey, probably give me a right hook or something.

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:20.119
<v Speaker 2>So fortunately enough for me at the time where I

0:28:20.200 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 2>started doing it like YouTube was a thing and starting lowly,

0:28:23.880 --> 0:28:26.840
<v Speaker 2>social media started coming in, so I could study that

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.639
<v Speaker 2>way where the olden days they had to find like

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:34.040
<v Speaker 2>the VHS tapes and cutups. And also I started fighting

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:36.879
<v Speaker 2>in a time where like the American League actually probably

0:28:36.960 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>had more of the tough guys in the NHL because

0:28:39.840 --> 0:28:43.040
<v Speaker 2>they were slowly weeding out that style in the NHL,

0:28:43.440 --> 0:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>where now it's a lot more organic and there's not

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 2>as many heavyweights, like guys like Tom Wilson are still

0:28:49.480 --> 0:28:53.800
<v Speaker 2>very efficient because they can play and their heavyweights. So

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 2>fortunately for me when I was in the NHL, I

0:28:57.120 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 2>wasn't having to scrap the old fighters of the past

0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 2>where they would grab on and they would just go

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.720
<v Speaker 2>punch in the face match where there was no defense none.

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.080
<v Speaker 3>It was I watch it every time, like these guys

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:11.120
<v Speaker 3>take fucking two or three off the face and just

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 3>keep going.

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.320
<v Speaker 2>And I was more of a defensive fighter where you

0:29:14.360 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>look back and I'm just so grateful. If I was

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 2>playing in the seventies, like my nose would be on

0:29:19.080 --> 0:29:21.200
<v Speaker 2>the other side of my head, ye, and I probably

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:23.640
<v Speaker 2>would be like eating through a two at this point.

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:25.480
<v Speaker 4>So just a.

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 2>Different era, and I guess to answer your going back

0:29:28.760 --> 0:29:31.680
<v Speaker 2>to your question, the difference between an agitator is somebody

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>who doesn't necessarily have to fight all the time, but

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 2>can get under people's skin, play the game, and also

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>handle his business.

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.880
<v Speaker 3>Shit. What makes a good locker room guy in hockey?

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<v Speaker 3>I think just you guys have you guys always have.

0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that you guys always have pretty great

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 3>locker rooms.

0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:52.320
<v Speaker 1>There's not like it's not like football or basketball or

0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how baseball that much.

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, they got a lot of that too, where

0:29:55.920 --> 0:29:57.240
<v Speaker 3>there's there's like a.

0:29:57.280 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Lot of egos sometimes with certain positions. I feel like hockey,

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 1>those guys are always what makes the locker room so great.

0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:06.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean there have been locker rooms like that. I

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.280
<v Speaker 2>was blessed throughout my entire career where we always had

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:10.640
<v Speaker 2>great locker room culture.

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:12.040
<v Speaker 3>I was.

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.560
<v Speaker 2>I played in Pittsburgh's organization, Phoenixes and LA's and every

0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 2>organization was first class. And I would say, what makes

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.520
<v Speaker 2>a good locker room guy is just like guys who

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 2>are selfless. You know, they look they look after the team,

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>They care about wins more than they do their individual stats.

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.000
<v Speaker 2>And that was just kind of how we operated in

0:30:32.400 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 2>Phoenix because that's where I was for the majority of

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:38.560
<v Speaker 2>my my NHL career. We had great leadership like Shane

0:30:38.640 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 2>don and really it was a trickle down effect from there,

0:30:41.880 --> 0:30:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and I personally was like in and out of the lineup.

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I was the locker room DJ. When I wasn't playing

0:30:48.160 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 2>after the game, I was making sure I was handing

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 2>out shakes more you can do. I was making sure

0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 2>that we'd have a couple of cases of beers for

0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>the bus.

0:30:56.040 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 3>So the guys.

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you know, I always I learned from a

0:31:02.040 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>young age that that's kind of what you had to

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.040
<v Speaker 2>do in order to be a good teammate, especially if

0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>you weren't contributing on the ice. And but it goes

0:31:09.040 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>back to the entire locker room where we just had

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>a great culture.

0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 4>And that's just kind of the situations that I was in.

0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 1>Now, what playlist as team DJ got the boys going

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the best?

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>So I think you had to read the room. And

0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.520
<v Speaker 2>we had the check mafias. We had about five or

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>six check guys on our team, and so they straight

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:31.240
<v Speaker 2>they liked the techno. They like, yeah, the disco biscuits,

0:31:31.320 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>let's go, yeah, go into all.

0:31:32.800 --> 0:31:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Those finish dudes, they all love that shit. Huh Yeah.

0:31:35.680 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>We had a few euros and when they were in

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>the locker room, I made sure that they were they

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:43.000
<v Speaker 2>were getting their techno. We had some Western leaguers they

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>wanted the country and then usually leading up to Puck Drop,

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>it was hip hop and then maybe a few like

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>hardcore ac DC.

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<v Speaker 5>Thunderstruck can never go wrong. You can't go wrong with Thunderstruck.

0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's on every kid's highlight film

0:31:57.440 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>that's thirty five and older.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can't get your dick card to Thunderstruck, like you,

0:32:03.120 --> 0:32:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you you got problems. You don't deserve to be in

0:32:05.040 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the league.

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 3>I'm tn T guy too. Yeah, I just want to

0:32:07.640 --> 0:32:10.080
<v Speaker 3>hit something.

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Now I got to ask something. You guys

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.719
<v Speaker 1>use the word slap dick. We use slap dick all

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>the time too.

0:32:22.040 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 5>No, they don't. I want the equivalent of slaptick.

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh what's the equivalent?

0:32:26.080 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 5>Explain slaptick?

0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.080
<v Speaker 3>A slap dick to us is like a baba luke

0:32:30.920 --> 0:32:31.640
<v Speaker 3>or like just.

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 5>Like explain baba luke.

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it used to be a different language.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 3>A locker room is kind of like a guy that

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.520
<v Speaker 3>he's a slappy like he's like.

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 4>He'll go over after the game.

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 5>What's that he's more of?

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 3>He's not a cool kid yet you know how there's

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.960
<v Speaker 3>like socioeconomic statuses in the locker room. He's not a

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 3>cool kid, but he's not like someone he's like in

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.480
<v Speaker 3>that bottom tier of the of the team.

0:32:59.160 --> 0:33:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Probably me, Yeah, I was just handing out the protein

0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 2>shakes after the game.

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:06.479
<v Speaker 3>Or you know the guys like my my.

0:33:06.480 --> 0:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>My one example is like I remember me and Rob

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>Nikovich early in my career when I was a slap dick.

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>We would sit in the locker room after organized team

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:21.240
<v Speaker 1>activities in spring, like mini camps, and we we'd have

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the day off, and we'd be talking

0:33:23.040 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>about going to Waxies, which is this local bar where

0:33:25.880 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>no one knew who we were because we wear helmets

0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>and we were young guys and no one kneho we were.

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And we would sit there and we would just dream

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:35.960
<v Speaker 1>about look at Brady.

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 3>And say, man, you think he's gonna take his supermodel

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 3>wife on a fucking helicopter in Hamptons for a fucking

0:33:41.200 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 3>lunch today or that like that? Those are the slap

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:47.800
<v Speaker 3>looking at those guys like the what is is there?

0:33:47.840 --> 0:33:51.040
<v Speaker 3>A slap dick name in hockey. I would I use

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>the term tire pumper.

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:53.160
<v Speaker 4>I was.

0:33:53.520 --> 0:33:55.720
<v Speaker 2>I used to pump guys tires and and you know,

0:33:55.800 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 2>you want to make them feel good, especially a guy

0:33:57.720 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 2>not playing is you want them being at the most confident.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.360
<v Speaker 2>So even before games, like the rule was is when

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I had Dave Tippet as a head coach, even when

0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I was a healthy.

0:34:06.960 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Scratch, I would go for warm up. So I'd be

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 4>around the locker.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Room just being like, man, you're the best, like you're

0:34:12.440 --> 0:34:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you're fucking buzzing lately, you know, scoring all those goals.

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Maybe not speculating what they were doing with their wives,

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 2>but more so just making sure their tires were pumped,

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>their egos were inflav we.

0:34:22.520 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Were marveling that like, yes, he's just like man, I

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 3>wonder what he's probably gonna go to, like Italy for

0:34:28.600 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 3>the day.

0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:31.120
<v Speaker 2>I would always like to ask guys like can I

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:34.200
<v Speaker 2>see your paycheck? Yeah, because they would put the hard

0:34:34.239 --> 0:34:36.399
<v Speaker 2>copy in the stall, and you know, I'd look at

0:34:36.400 --> 0:34:38.680
<v Speaker 2>mine and I was fucking grateful at that time, like

0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:40.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty grand every two weeks.

0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:40.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>And then you'd look at a guy like Ed Joe Venowski,

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.879
<v Speaker 2>like two hundred and fifty three hundred K every two weeks,

0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:46.479
<v Speaker 2>and you're just.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:47.240
<v Speaker 3>Like, what the fuck?

0:34:47.520 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 2>Go good by Bentley if he wanted to to he wanted.

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.120
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy when silver Leaf, you know, playing golf every day,

0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, rubin elbows mine while I'm eating at fucking

0:34:57.040 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>five guys.

0:34:58.560 --> 0:35:03.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, time in my career, Thursdays was a Chili's night, Okay,

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:06.480
<v Speaker 1>bottomless chips and salsa, that's your go to.

0:35:06.680 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 3>That was our go to first three years of my

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 3>career at Chili's.

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.359
<v Speaker 4>So so it wasn't until year four where you were

0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 4>a starter.

0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I was a special teamer, so I played, I returned punts,

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I covered kicks. We had Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Joey Galloway.

0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 1>So like I was bottom on the depth chart at

0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:27.440
<v Speaker 1>receiver and I was a quarterback in college, so I

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>was transferring positions. So I had to like make myself valuable.

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>I had to go to the hockey boy route and

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:35.920
<v Speaker 1>fucking tire pump a bunch of dudes and play on

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.040
<v Speaker 1>every fucking team and learn the game before I got

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 1>to have an opportunity to start.

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 4>So, like, what would Randy Moss dap you up.

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Randy love Like Randy was souper cool to me.

0:35:46.719 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>He he used to call me Edel nut, you know,

0:35:49.200 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 1>and he would he would make me why because I

0:35:53.040 --> 0:35:56.040
<v Speaker 1>was like a nut, you know. I was a little kid,

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>fucking asking questions all the time.

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I had no clue. You're you're in a new part

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 3>of the world, new part of the country.

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 4>Probably bringing energy to the locker room too. What you

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 4>have to do when you're a.

0:36:05.160 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 3>Tire pump, but you can't be heard, you have to

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:10.160
<v Speaker 3>be seen. It's a rookie, okay, you know, so you're

0:36:10.160 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 3>not bringing that much.

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:13.760
<v Speaker 4>I came in hot. That was my problem.

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Like some guys were probably like this guy's a loser,

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:17.120
<v Speaker 2>but eventually I grew on them.

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I came in hot once with Randy on Christmas and

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>told him to tell his mom Merry Christmas while he's

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:24.759
<v Speaker 1>on the phone with her. And he looked at me

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>and said, edelmanha, if I'm ever talking to my mom,

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.560
<v Speaker 1>just shut the fuck up on Christmas.

0:36:30.880 --> 0:36:32.399
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So like you.

0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Were Jewish, But he also like loved me up, like

0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>I would have to keep the receiver, like you're when

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>you're a young guy or rookie, you'd have to get

0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:42.920
<v Speaker 1>all the food for the travel. Yeah, and you usually

0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 1>have to pay for it out of your own pocket.

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:47.319
<v Speaker 1>But he'd always I was a seventh round guy. He'd

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:49.160
<v Speaker 1>always slide me the money and make me go.

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 3>Like he took care of me.

0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>But he's awesome. He let me know that I was

0:36:52.280 --> 0:36:54.479
<v Speaker 1>a rookie. But he always when no one was looking,

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>he'd always pump my tires.

0:36:56.239 --> 0:36:59.319
<v Speaker 2>So year fourwards, when you you walked in and you

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 2>finally fell like you'd establish yourself and then you had like.

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>The no, I was still battling. It wasn't until about

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 1>year five, my year five, after year five, that's when

0:37:11.760 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I went for like one hundred and five catches. That

0:37:14.520 --> 0:37:16.400
<v Speaker 1>was the after that year, that's when it was like,

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, now you're not a slappy.

0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>So before that, you like wouldn't text back and forth

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>with Brady.

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 3>I would. So I was trying to get there. I

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 3>was making myself available. I was like the uh, you know,

0:37:30.920 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of like the uh, the non threatening

0:37:35.000 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 3>guy friend okay for him or you know, if he

0:37:39.320 --> 0:37:42.960
<v Speaker 3>needed me in La anytime I traveled anywhere. He was

0:37:43.680 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 3>just in case he needed me to throw too so

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:49.600
<v Speaker 3>I made myself available. So the first year, you know,

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 3>in the off seasons, we didn't we threw once because

0:37:52.360 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 3>all the receivers used to throw at them. And then

0:37:54.960 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, by year four, we're throwing three or four

0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 3>times a day. And what that did was I learned

0:37:59.040 --> 0:38:02.000
<v Speaker 3>what he liked, he learned my body mechanics, and the

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:03.319
<v Speaker 3>rest is, you know, goes on.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.799
<v Speaker 5>To how you started in the friend zone with Brady.

0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Was I was friend zone because he ed Welker and Moss.

0:38:09.239 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, and then and then those guys took off

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 4>and you took their place.

0:38:11.920 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 3>And they took off. Yeah, you know, he's kind of like

0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Matthew McConaughey. I guess and days and confused.

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:25.880
<v Speaker 5>They get older, I keep getting older and they keep playing.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 3>I was just a younger version of them.

0:38:29.400 --> 0:38:33.680
<v Speaker 4>That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. Oh, great way to put it.

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 3>Who were some of the big dogs you looked out

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 3>for on your teams?

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, Yeans because he was a skilled defenceman. Ed Jovanovski

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 2>who was a veteran defenseman for US, but like a

0:38:46.040 --> 0:38:48.520
<v Speaker 2>star at that time, he'd want a gold with Team

0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:49.719
<v Speaker 2>Canada at the Olympics.

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Shane Doan was our captain.

0:38:51.680 --> 0:38:54.200
<v Speaker 2>The thing about Arizona is we didn't have a big

0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 2>we didn't have a big budget. Like at one point

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 2>when I was there, the league took over and they

0:38:59.239 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 2>owned the team. So we never really had these like

0:39:02.200 --> 0:39:04.440
<v Speaker 2>high end superstars on our team. We just had a

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:08.280
<v Speaker 2>really galvanized group of lunch pale mentality type of players

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>where my first, second and third year there, we made playoffs.

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:16.840
<v Speaker 2>Every year we were projected to finish last or second

0:39:16.920 --> 0:39:20.600
<v Speaker 2>last in our conference, and even to the third year

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 2>we won our division and ended up going to the

0:39:22.760 --> 0:39:26.000
<v Speaker 2>conference finals. So it was really cool. That was in

0:39:26.040 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 2>like fifteen, I believe that that was two thousand and.

0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:31.799
<v Speaker 3>Thirteen, thirteen, I remember that.

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we lost to the La Kings in five.

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Remember those jerseys, and I was like, who the fuck

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:36.480
<v Speaker 3>is a coyote?

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.920
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, exactly exactly.

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:42.719
<v Speaker 2>Now, yeah, we're staying at the fucking Best Westerns when

0:39:42.719 --> 0:39:44.840
<v Speaker 2>other teams are staying at the Ritz Carlton and just

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:48.440
<v Speaker 2>like you know, that's sick, eating chicken noodle sup before games,

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:50.960
<v Speaker 2>just to survive. And and sure enough we go all

0:39:50.960 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 2>the way to the conference finals. So it was a

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 2>very special group and we had a guy, Ray Whitney,

0:39:56.280 --> 0:39:58.880
<v Speaker 2>who played over a thousand games, over thousand points.

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Who was he?

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Actually, it's he has a funny story. He grew up

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 2>in Edmonton. His father was a trainer for the Edmonton Oilers,

0:40:06.120 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>and he grew up and he would go to the

0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:09.800
<v Speaker 2>locker room and help as a trainer for game days

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:12.719
<v Speaker 2>and he would be taping Wayne Gretzky sticks. Oh, Wayne

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:15.879
<v Speaker 2>Gretzky would use about like five to eight sticks every game,

0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:17.839
<v Speaker 2>and he would go there and tape it up and

0:40:18.080 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 2>he'd make sure after the game and a Gatorade cup

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:22.680
<v Speaker 2>he'd have a beer. So when Wayne was doing his interviews,

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 2>he'd be drinking a beer, but it was in a

0:40:24.040 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 2>Gatorade cup, so no one knews. So he ended up

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:30.120
<v Speaker 2>evolving into an incredible player undersize, but ended up having

0:40:30.160 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 2>a tremendous career. So those are some of the leaders.

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:36.720
<v Speaker 3>He must be a good tape stick taper stick taper,

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 3>because I remember watching Sagan do that once and it

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.839
<v Speaker 3>was like taping the stick. I know, but like that's

0:40:42.840 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 3>a guy's like to have someone else do it. It's

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 3>like prepping your sword.

0:40:46.360 --> 0:40:49.400
<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, some guys are very sloppy about it. David

0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.560
<v Speaker 2>Posterknock used to just go like a couple strips and

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 2>he'd score fifty goals. It didn't just yeah, like right

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.239
<v Speaker 2>out of the wrapper tape, a couple of strips on

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.520
<v Speaker 2>it and he's out there. But other guys are very

0:40:59.520 --> 0:41:02.279
<v Speaker 2>precise where they would have the same amount, Like there

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be a millimeter of difference between every player of

0:41:05.760 --> 0:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>how it went all the way to the toe from

0:41:07.480 --> 0:41:10.160
<v Speaker 2>heel to toe or whatever. But yeah, so that's the

0:41:10.320 --> 0:41:12.080
<v Speaker 2>that's the guy's sore that they have to use. So

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:14.080
<v Speaker 2>some guys treat it with with massive respect.

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:14.719
<v Speaker 3>You have to.

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now you started in social media, Yeah, that's how

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>everyone kind of found you. Yeah, and you jumped over

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.719
<v Speaker 1>into the mainstream and you work with T and T.

0:41:25.239 --> 0:41:26.839
<v Speaker 1>How the fuck has that been? Because I'm in this

0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.600
<v Speaker 1>world now too, and it's a fun world. How's it

0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>for you guys?

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:32.800
<v Speaker 2>So I don't think I would be on T and

0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:35.120
<v Speaker 2>T if it wasn't for the Spit and Chickles podcast.

0:41:35.640 --> 0:41:40.000
<v Speaker 2>Soh Rear Admiral ra as we call him him and

0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>Wit started the pod and Mike Grinnell, our producer, hopped

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:45.200
<v Speaker 2>on and then it kind of evolved to what it

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>was before I hopped on that I actually started as

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a color guy with the Coyotes after I retired, So

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.520
<v Speaker 2>doing the full game and talking for the three hours

0:41:54.520 --> 0:41:57.799
<v Speaker 2>really prepared me for the podcast. Then the podcast got

0:41:57.840 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 2>me the job with T and T because of the

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.880
<v Speaker 2>pod popularity that had grown from it, and also the

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>fact that when I was playing with the Coyotes, Wayne

0:42:05.440 --> 0:42:08.960
<v Speaker 2>Gretzky was actually the coach. Before I got there, the

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.399
<v Speaker 2>market had gone down, so he kept his home there

0:42:11.840 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>and his two kids, Tye and Trevor, along with my

0:42:14.960 --> 0:42:17.680
<v Speaker 2>good buddy Joey Superstein. They were living in this mansion

0:42:17.760 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 2>going to ASU. So I was going there and partying

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.600
<v Speaker 2>with them, and we were throwing these after hours, like

0:42:22.640 --> 0:42:25.040
<v Speaker 2>Tom Green would show up, like it was just this

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 2>crazy time in my life. And when the TNT gig

0:42:28.680 --> 0:42:31.799
<v Speaker 2>came up, Wayne Gretzky was already hired, and when they

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 2>were talking about people to add ty and Trevor, his

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 2>kids were like, Dad, why don't you get Biz on board?

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Like he's a fucking clown online, like he would be

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 2>awesome for the broadcast. So Wayne's like, all right, and

0:42:42.400 --> 0:42:44.600
<v Speaker 2>then he mentioned it to them. I went in for

0:42:44.880 --> 0:42:47.919
<v Speaker 2>a trial and hit it off with Liam McHugh who's

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.000
<v Speaker 2>an incredible bus driver, and then yeah, he's an unreal

0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:54.520
<v Speaker 2>bus driver, Like this guy's motor's insane, and then and

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 2>then answered Carter, who'd already been doing it. And the

0:42:57.680 --> 0:42:59.560
<v Speaker 2>tryout went great, and the next thing you know, I

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>got high to do NHL on TNT and I've been

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.680
<v Speaker 2>so grateful to just be a part of that whole

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:10.760
<v Speaker 2>franchise and the fact that the NBA guys like Shaq, Chuck, Ernie,

0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.960
<v Speaker 2>all of them have kind of set the table and

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 2>transformed the way that broadcast should be. Like we're so

0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 2>much looser and able to snap it around at that

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 2>pace because those guys had had done what they'd done,

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>done what they did prior. And TNT is in turner

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 2>is just a dream to work for. It's been it's

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 2>been world first class and couldn't be more grateful.

0:43:33.280 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And it's so fun because I work at Fox and

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it's fun watching you guys, and from my experience getting

0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:44.359
<v Speaker 1>to go to work and see how we long Terry Bradshaw,

0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>it gives you my football fix. Like everyone asked, don't

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:51.719
<v Speaker 1>you want to coach? I'm like, fuck no, those guys

0:43:51.719 --> 0:43:52.480
<v Speaker 1>have no lives.

0:43:53.239 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 3>I still get my football fix by going to work

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.799
<v Speaker 3>and talking old war stories with Terry Bradshaw. HOWI long

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Michael Strahan all those guys and have that locker room vibe.

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:05.799
<v Speaker 3>How's the locker room vibe with fucking your guy? Yeah, Gretzky, Like,

0:44:06.040 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 3>how crazy is how is it to get to work

0:44:08.280 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 3>with the fucking great one every day? It's surreal.

0:44:10.880 --> 0:44:13.920
<v Speaker 2>And my first year, especially because he was doing a

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 2>little bit more, and I've even shocked the fact that

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 2>he's doing it. He's done so much as an ambassador

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 2>for the game, he does so much for the alumni,

0:44:21.280 --> 0:44:22.719
<v Speaker 2>so the fact that we even get to be in

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 2>his presence is incredible. And our first year before Rick Talckett,

0:44:27.600 --> 0:44:29.759
<v Speaker 2>his good buddy, had got a head coaching job with

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:33.640
<v Speaker 2>the Vancouver Canucks. After broadcast, we'd go back to their

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.680
<v Speaker 2>whether you know, whether it was Wayne or Rick's room,

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 2>and they would just tell these stories for hours and hours,

0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 2>and so I'd be I'd be up till four thirty

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:44.799
<v Speaker 2>and I'd have a six am car going, but I

0:44:44.840 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>didn't care. I just wanted to be hearing these iconic

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 2>stories that have transformed the game, and stories that you

0:44:50.960 --> 0:44:53.680
<v Speaker 2>hear about on television when they're breaking all down. But

0:44:54.040 --> 0:44:57.840
<v Speaker 2>even like more of the incurtesies.

0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.399
<v Speaker 3>Is that you said, I'm not a bord guy.

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 4>Me neither exactly tried a big one. That's like four syllables.

0:45:01.640 --> 0:45:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I should probably stick to my game off the glass

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 2>and out the little details.

0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 3>That's what the details.

0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.800
<v Speaker 2>Even more so so just to be around him and

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 2>be in his presence, it's it's like I pitch myself

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:15.520
<v Speaker 2>all the time. He's the greatest to ever do it.

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.959
<v Speaker 2>And also the reason they call him the great one

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 2>is not because of what he accomplished on the ice,

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.560
<v Speaker 2>but also what he's done off the ice, Like there's

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>no bigger guy. Like all he wants to do is

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 2>help the former players, whether it's get them insurance and

0:45:29.640 --> 0:45:32.319
<v Speaker 2>grow the game and just help everybody out in the

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:33.040
<v Speaker 2>hockey world.

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:36.520
<v Speaker 4>And uh, just an unreal ambassador for the game of hockey.

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:39.800
<v Speaker 3>He seems like just a nice man. He is the man, dude,

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 3>he's the man. He looks like I've never met him.

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 4>He's the best.

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 3>He seems so cool.

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:47.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll tell him next time he's here. I bet you

0:45:47.840 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 2>he would come on your podcast.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:51.200
<v Speaker 3>I would love to have fucking Wayne Gretzki on the

0:45:51.200 --> 0:45:52.359
<v Speaker 3>Goddamn Podcast.

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 2>Because his kids, his kids help run his hockey school,

0:45:54.880 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>his merchandise or they're keeping it as a family business

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and they run his social So he on the Theovon podcast. Yeah,

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 2>so they'll be like, Dad, go on this, and he'll

0:46:03.680 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 2>be like, okay. So he just loves it, and he'd.

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Be a guy that's like a you know, we were

0:46:10.480 --> 0:46:13.440
<v Speaker 1>very fortunate in our sport to have a great face

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>guy to like Tom. You know, the guys that are

0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:20.160
<v Speaker 1>faces of leagues and that are generational greats. They're not

0:46:20.560 --> 0:46:22.520
<v Speaker 1>just that because they're great on the field or on

0:46:22.560 --> 0:46:27.239
<v Speaker 1>the ice. It's because they're overall just great dudes, great humans.

0:46:27.640 --> 0:46:30.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's why there's so much greater than everyone.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and and exactly, and like going back, look at

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:36.879
<v Speaker 2>how much Tom's done for the game, Like you think, man,

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:39.880
<v Speaker 2>go go chill on a beach and and go relax,

0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 2>go enjoy it. And it's almost like he feels like

0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 2>he's indebted to the game based on what it's provided

0:46:45.000 --> 0:46:47.960
<v Speaker 2>his life to continue to grow it and obviously to

0:46:47.960 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>continue to be a part of it.

0:46:49.120 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 3>And he just loves it.

0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, and you could tell with all of them,

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.960
<v Speaker 2>it's just a fabric of their being. And uh yeah,

0:46:55.000 --> 0:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>it's just.

0:46:55.760 --> 0:46:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Because they respect the game and they understand. You know,

0:46:58.680 --> 0:47:00.360
<v Speaker 1>you get a lot of these a lot of people

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:03.240
<v Speaker 1>that said, you know, I'm I'm not letting the sport

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:04.480
<v Speaker 1>define me the.

0:47:05.960 --> 0:47:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Well you know, the great ones do. Yeah, they understand

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.040
<v Speaker 3>that they're in debt to the sport because what the

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:14.920
<v Speaker 3>sport has given us. Yeah, and you love that sport,

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:16.799
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. And that's what you see

0:47:16.840 --> 0:47:19.439
<v Speaker 3>from those two specifically, what's it like watching a game

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.839
<v Speaker 3>with them? Is he is he breaking that ship down? Oh?

0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that and also how it will correlate to like

0:47:26.239 --> 0:47:29.879
<v Speaker 2>just this insane monumental moment throughout hockey history. So that's

0:47:29.920 --> 0:47:32.399
<v Speaker 2>the best thing with him. It's like goosebumps, goosebumps, choose

0:47:32.440 --> 0:47:35.160
<v Speaker 2>your own ending. He could bring it anywhere. So getting

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:38.680
<v Speaker 2>to watch he also sees it like what's the term.

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:42.800
<v Speaker 2>He's almost like a savant. So sometimes he'll like describe

0:47:42.840 --> 0:47:44.719
<v Speaker 2>a plan. I'll be like, oh, yeah, like I don't

0:47:44.760 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 2>know what the fuck he's saying, Like you should have

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.880
<v Speaker 2>dumped it in. But uh, even to go back to

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to Wayne and and why he is the way he

0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:58.120
<v Speaker 2>is his father Walter like he was an icon in himself,

0:47:58.160 --> 0:48:00.359
<v Speaker 2>and probably a lot of the pressure that he took

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:02.200
<v Speaker 2>off Wayne when he was even going through it, and

0:48:02.239 --> 0:48:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he was an ambassador in himself, whether

0:48:04.960 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 2>he was signing autographs or doing media hits, like he

0:48:09.360 --> 0:48:14.279
<v Speaker 2>really pushed it upon Wayne to continue that ambassadorship and

0:48:14.640 --> 0:48:17.600
<v Speaker 2>move the game forward. And even to when Wayne was

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 2>a child, his father was so innovative where he built

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:24.279
<v Speaker 2>a pond in his backyard and he would be doing

0:48:24.360 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 2>drills with tennis balls and Wayne would be like, why

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.080
<v Speaker 2>am I doing drills with a tennis ball rather than

0:48:30.080 --> 0:48:32.400
<v Speaker 2>a pocket He'd say, because if you can control a

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>tennis ball, your hands will be so soft that way,

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 2>when the puck comes, you'll be able to cradle it

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 2>so much smoother and softer than everybody else. And that

0:48:41.360 --> 0:48:43.479
<v Speaker 2>was like, those were like little details that he taught

0:48:43.480 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Wayne at a young age that propelled him to be

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:49.319
<v Speaker 2>this phenom and end up living up to everything that

0:48:50.480 --> 0:48:53.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of like Mcjesus, like all the hype he lived

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:54.799
<v Speaker 2>up to, every single ounce of it is.

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Mcjesus gonna be.

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:59.800
<v Speaker 2>He is him. It's what he does on the ice,

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:03.080
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't get it. I don't understand it. So

0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I actually I knew that I could never play in

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:08.960
<v Speaker 2>the NHL again when I played in an exhibition game

0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:11.520
<v Speaker 2>when I was with the LA Kings organization, so I

0:49:11.560 --> 0:49:15.000
<v Speaker 2>was in training camp. They did this like Craft Hockeyville

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 2>game and it was in like Vernon, BC, so we

0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:21.799
<v Speaker 2>traveled there. I got to play in the game, and

0:49:21.840 --> 0:49:24.680
<v Speaker 2>I was obviously playing fourth line, and you'd heard about

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:27.920
<v Speaker 2>this kid, and I think this was his first year

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.360
<v Speaker 2>in the league and his first training camp. So I

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.759
<v Speaker 2>ended up getting caught out in the ice twice against him,

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:35.279
<v Speaker 2>and he grabbed the puck in his own end, went

0:49:35.320 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 2>through our whole five guys and put it in. The

0:49:37.680 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 2>second time he did it, he set somebody up and

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 2>they scored. So two times I got caught out against him,

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 2>and the speed in which he was skating and controlling

0:49:45.360 --> 0:49:48.200
<v Speaker 2>the puck. After the game, I'm like, I'm done, there's

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:50.000
<v Speaker 2>no way, And then sure enough I got sent home

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:51.800
<v Speaker 2>the next day, like back down to the minors.

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:53.080
<v Speaker 4>So that was the end of it.

0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:55.759
<v Speaker 2>And I knew that this game was being handed off

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 2>to another level in which I didn't think was ever

0:49:58.360 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be possible.

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Geez. It's it's exciting though. It's so exciting.

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:08.640
<v Speaker 1>That's exciting for hockey because the leagues need one guy,

0:50:09.560 --> 0:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>like who's Basketball's guy right now, which is in a

0:50:13.040 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 1>different form of fashion because they have a bunch of guys,

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:19.920
<v Speaker 1>but they're not like American guys, so they can't build around.

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:22.840
<v Speaker 1>Hockey's in a different world where the hockey I consider

0:50:23.040 --> 0:50:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Canada and American guys like for the North in America,

0:50:26.160 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, Yeah, where you can rally

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 1>behind at least in this country, like they don't have

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:33.440
<v Speaker 1>that in a lot of other sports.

0:50:33.480 --> 0:50:35.400
<v Speaker 3>Right now, hockey you have a future.

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 2>So not only mcjesus as we call him, but like

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 2>Nathan McKinnon as Matthews too, Austin Matthews, he had sixty

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:43.480
<v Speaker 2>nine goals last year.

0:50:43.520 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Gigb you then you got his predecessor or he's got

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>you got his Uh, you just got a couple of

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:49.399
<v Speaker 1>little battles for.

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:53.319
<v Speaker 2>It's like I feel like hockey is going into it's

0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 2>almost like it's glory days. Because of just the growth

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.080
<v Speaker 2>of the game in the United States and in the population.

0:50:59.760 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 2>They formed the development program here, so the American kidcher

0:51:03.840 --> 0:51:05.720
<v Speaker 2>U the United States so they.

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Have they would they hire. I don't know who runs

0:51:09.400 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 3>the Canadian guys.

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:12.880
<v Speaker 4>Uh, there are a lot.

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Of Canadian hockey players that have settled in the States

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.680
<v Speaker 2>and probably a big reason as to why the minor

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:23.080
<v Speaker 2>programs in these different cities, whether it's a Dallas, Florida,

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:26.080
<v Speaker 2>that these kids are obviously being raised in the States

0:51:26.160 --> 0:51:29.440
<v Speaker 2>as Americans and the game is growing here. Yeah, Canadians

0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:30.920
<v Speaker 2>do have a little part to do with it, but

0:51:31.200 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 2>there's tons of amazing.

0:51:32.239 --> 0:51:34.440
<v Speaker 3>American John barselsand.

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, PMT is like you never know where they're going.

0:51:39.000 --> 0:51:40.839
<v Speaker 2>So I just kind of got off the rails with them.

0:51:40.960 --> 0:51:44.120
<v Speaker 2>So had to take credit, especially during this time of

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:47.440
<v Speaker 2>the foreign nations and all the controversy.

0:51:46.840 --> 0:51:48.040
<v Speaker 4>Between US and Canada.

0:51:48.120 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 2>But but no, it's the game is in a great

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 2>place and all these players are pushing the envelope, and

0:51:53.880 --> 0:51:55.960
<v Speaker 2>especially the US with how many great players they have

0:51:56.040 --> 0:52:01.000
<v Speaker 2>they have. Jack Eichel just mentioned they have some great

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 2>defenseman even Canada, like Cale McCarry. You see his picture

0:52:04.600 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 2>on the Spats he is, Yeah, he's a umask guy.

0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:10.400
<v Speaker 2>He Wayne Gretzy just said the other day he goes biz.

0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.880
<v Speaker 2>He's the best thing. Uh, Like he's the biggest comparable

0:52:13.880 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 2>to Bobby or I've ever seen, and that is very

0:52:16.320 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 2>high priced, huge. He revolutionized the game as a defenseman

0:52:19.719 --> 0:52:21.680
<v Speaker 2>where he would just take the puck from his own end,

0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:23.879
<v Speaker 2>he'd skate through the team and and do.

0:52:23.880 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Whatever he did out there.

0:52:25.040 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 2>And Cale mccarr defensively and offensively is just an absolute

0:52:28.440 --> 0:52:32.000
<v Speaker 2>phenom and living up to every expectation to Quinn Hughes,

0:52:32.040 --> 0:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>he's an American, He's a water bug out there. So

0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.840
<v Speaker 2>he won last year's Norris ahead of Cale mccarr. So

0:52:38.400 --> 0:52:41.320
<v Speaker 2>you almost like you have these battles going on between

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:43.479
<v Speaker 2>each of these positions, which is a good thing because

0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:47.040
<v Speaker 2>it's just forcing them all to up their game. And

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:49.680
<v Speaker 2>on top of that, you have a storyline of of

0:52:49.719 --> 0:52:51.879
<v Speaker 2>the Hughes brothers, so this you.

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 3>Can love that hockey guy. There's so many goddamn brothers

0:52:54.560 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 3>in the Hut, three of them that are all under

0:52:56.600 --> 0:52:58.400
<v Speaker 3>They're all like all stars.

0:52:58.480 --> 0:53:00.720
<v Speaker 2>You got the Kachuck Brothers who are now the modern

0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:04.319
<v Speaker 2>day Bash Brothers, and the Mighty Ducks movie Bolton. You

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:07.080
<v Speaker 2>can there's a million storylines going on in hockey. And

0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:09.120
<v Speaker 2>and that's why I said, I feel like we're entering

0:53:09.200 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 2>like a new the.

0:53:10.680 --> 0:53:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Golden era hockey renaissance. Yeah, yeah, a hockey renaissance.

0:53:14.960 --> 0:53:18.120
<v Speaker 5>Olympics next year too, huh, Olympics next year. This formation

0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 5>is really gonna be that one two punch honestly.

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:23.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they timed it at perfect with the four nation

0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:26.120
<v Speaker 3>thing because now you've got Olympics, which always gives his

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.080
<v Speaker 3>fucking cheers, and playoff hockey's coming up, so you're gonna

0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:30.320
<v Speaker 3>get this and this back off.

0:53:30.760 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Betman gets so much flack and I don't know if

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 2>it's just a thing where like all the all all

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.200
<v Speaker 2>the guys who run the leagues, the commissioners get it.

0:53:38.280 --> 0:53:41.799
<v Speaker 2>But as much as flack as he takes, he's done

0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 2>an exceptional job along with the league, the players association,

0:53:45.520 --> 0:53:47.960
<v Speaker 2>the alumni to put it in a position where it

0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:50.479
<v Speaker 2>is now. It'd been nine years since hockey had best

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:53.759
<v Speaker 2>on best for the COVID reason, and then at one

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:57.400
<v Speaker 2>point they just couldn't reach an agreement on an insurance situation.

0:53:57.840 --> 0:53:59.520
<v Speaker 2>But you see, yeah, you seem to know quite a

0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 2>bit of what's going on.

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:04.279
<v Speaker 5>Since the Crosby Golden goal was there was there a

0:54:04.280 --> 0:54:04.839
<v Speaker 5>World Cup.

0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:07.440
<v Speaker 2>They did form a World Cup where they had like

0:54:07.480 --> 0:54:11.000
<v Speaker 2>an under twenty five team. So it wasn't necessarily that traditional,

0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:13.600
<v Speaker 2>but the fact that they did it the first one

0:54:13.640 --> 0:54:17.239
<v Speaker 2>in nine years, McDavid and Crosby were able to put

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:20.120
<v Speaker 2>on Team Canada Jersey together. People want to act like

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.360
<v Speaker 2>it's a maybe, like call an All Star game or

0:54:22.360 --> 0:54:25.680
<v Speaker 2>this makeshift event, But those are the four leading hockey

0:54:25.760 --> 0:54:32.080
<v Speaker 2>nations outside of Russia. What's that they're they're on timeout? Yeah,

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:34.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't for that's that's for other political reasons that

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't really feel to dive into the legs on.

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:39.840
<v Speaker 2>But they end up having this thing the year before

0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:42.560
<v Speaker 2>the Olympics in order to kind of just really propel

0:54:42.600 --> 0:54:46.200
<v Speaker 2>it and get people anticipated for what will be an incredible,

0:54:46.239 --> 0:54:49.160
<v Speaker 2>incredible event in Italy. So hockey is on a heater

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.720
<v Speaker 2>right now and it couldn't be in a better place.

0:54:51.960 --> 0:54:54.520
<v Speaker 1>It couldn't be in a better place. Tyler, do you

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:57.319
<v Speaker 1>want to ask your Pittsburgh stuff for before?

0:54:58.160 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 5>Since before I can remember, you were a part the

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:05.319
<v Speaker 5>organization right at the start of the crosbyt Gino Latang Flower. Yeah,

0:55:05.400 --> 0:55:07.600
<v Speaker 5>can you just can you in the organization in the building,

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 5>could you see that was coming?

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, yeah, it was kind of like I'm sure

0:55:12.760 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 2>that you dealt with Tom. That was my first experience

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.640
<v Speaker 2>with playing with a guy who was obsessed with the game.

0:55:20.360 --> 0:55:23.000
<v Speaker 2>And Sid would come to the rink every day, and

0:55:23.040 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 2>the way that he would prepare, the way that he

0:55:25.680 --> 0:55:28.239
<v Speaker 2>would be so focused when the drill was being drawn up.

0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:30.080
<v Speaker 2>He would be the first guy in line and he

0:55:30.080 --> 0:55:33.279
<v Speaker 2>would set the tone to every single drill and if

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 2>the level wasn't at the level, he would be barking.

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 2>And even if I was the second guy in line,

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 2>gino at Guenny Malklin, he'd come in and he'd be like,

0:55:41.440 --> 0:55:43.640
<v Speaker 2>Bizz back in the line. We're fucking set in the tone.

0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:48.440
<v Speaker 2>So to watch of Guenny Malkin, Crosby, Marc Andre Florey,

0:55:48.480 --> 0:55:51.239
<v Speaker 2>who's still playing all kind of playing, it's crazy. Let

0:55:51.360 --> 0:55:54.839
<v Speaker 2>tang and the enthusiasm they also brought to the rink,

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:56.719
<v Speaker 2>you just knew that it was just a matter of

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:59.880
<v Speaker 2>time before they hoisted the cup and really saved the

0:55:59.880 --> 0:56:01.160
<v Speaker 2>team from probably moving.

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:06.279
<v Speaker 3>So but they were going to move the Penguins. Don't

0:56:06.320 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 3>they love the Penguins in Pittsburgh.

0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:11.279
<v Speaker 4>It was just a dark time, right, Like it was like.

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:14.000
<v Speaker 3>One of the isn't that like one of the most historic.

0:56:15.080 --> 0:56:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Yes, because of Mario and Yoger and what they'd done.

0:56:18.920 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know, unfortunately they were reaching their dog days.

0:56:22.440 --> 0:56:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Mario was retiring, and that that lottery ball where they

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:29.279
<v Speaker 2>won and they got Sidney Crosby changed at all, and

0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:32.440
<v Speaker 2>then the following year they got Malcolm and actually the

0:56:32.520 --> 0:56:34.879
<v Speaker 2>year before that it was my draft when they ended

0:56:34.920 --> 0:56:37.600
<v Speaker 2>up picking Marc Andre Fleury at number one overall. So

0:56:38.000 --> 0:56:42.000
<v Speaker 2>they were fortunate enough to get those spots in the draft. Yeah,

0:56:42.200 --> 0:56:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Jordan Stall was huge. He was a great third line

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:46.799
<v Speaker 2>center for them at a young age when they ended

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.520
<v Speaker 2>up winning it. So it was just a perfect time.

0:56:49.560 --> 0:56:52.719
<v Speaker 2>And actually what was cool about it. The year that

0:56:52.760 --> 0:56:55.200
<v Speaker 2>I was drafted was three and I got to go

0:56:55.239 --> 0:56:57.799
<v Speaker 2>to training camp where it was one of marios, if

0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 2>not his last year, so I got to do training

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>camp with Mario Lemux and share the ice of I

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:06.840
<v Speaker 2>was so fucking nervous. I was in his group in

0:57:06.920 --> 0:57:09.640
<v Speaker 2>training camp and I'll never forget. We were doing this

0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:12.080
<v Speaker 2>easy drill where the defenseman rounds the net and at

0:57:12.080 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 2>this time I was still a d and all you

0:57:14.040 --> 0:57:15.000
<v Speaker 2>had to do was.

0:57:14.760 --> 0:57:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Was hit the winger along the wall.

0:57:16.120 --> 0:57:19.000
<v Speaker 2>It was a fifteen foot fucking pass and I rounded

0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 2>the net and it was Mario and I missed him

0:57:21.040 --> 0:57:23.120
<v Speaker 2>by about twenty feet and they had to blow down

0:57:23.120 --> 0:57:24.720
<v Speaker 2>the drill and we had to restart, and I.

0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Was so embarrassed. Did you say anything like what's up? Kid? No? No,

0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:30.120
<v Speaker 3>he was so cool about it.

0:57:30.240 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 2>You know. It was Eddie Ulcik was a coach at

0:57:32.400 --> 0:57:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the time, and so thankfully the next time I did it,

0:57:35.480 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I hit his tape. But I'll never forget. He must

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:41.400
<v Speaker 2>have had a golf match after the practice and we

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.360
<v Speaker 2>didn't have the scrimmage that day. So normally you bag

0:57:44.480 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 2>skate when you don't you know what to bag skate was,

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:51.280
<v Speaker 2>and to practice like lineup nopucks, just conditioning and yeah,

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:54.680
<v Speaker 2>ed Zoe was our coach at the time. He was like,

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.920
<v Speaker 2>all right, boys, great practice, great pace today, We're just

0:57:57.960 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna do a little skate. And then Mario was like

0:58:00.320 --> 0:58:03.360
<v Speaker 2>and He's like, guess that the now we're good and

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.840
<v Speaker 2>the Edge's like great practice today, boys, enjoy yourselves, play

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 2>rebound if you want, and have a great day. And

0:58:09.240 --> 0:58:11.480
<v Speaker 2>that was like I was like, what, Like, I've never

0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:14.800
<v Speaker 2>seen anything like that, And just Mario's aura and and

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:17.800
<v Speaker 2>and seeing him around was was just like something I'll

0:58:17.800 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 2>never forget. So my time in Pittsburgh, as much as

0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:23.680
<v Speaker 2>it was in the minors and in even the EHL,

0:58:24.520 --> 0:58:26.960
<v Speaker 2>I was just grateful to spend that little a time

0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:28.000
<v Speaker 2>around those legends.

0:58:28.040 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 3>You got to be around some fucking legend legends.

0:58:30.960 --> 0:58:32.640
<v Speaker 4>I'll never forget you're.

0:58:32.480 --> 0:58:34.440
<v Speaker 3>Still around legend, You're you're a legend.

0:58:34.680 --> 0:58:38.800
<v Speaker 2>So uh no, uh the Afgheny malk and that was

0:58:38.840 --> 0:58:41.080
<v Speaker 2>the year. I want to say he might have won

0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:43.240
<v Speaker 2>the cont that first year.

0:58:43.400 --> 0:58:44.040
<v Speaker 5>He won the Heart too.

0:58:44.080 --> 0:58:47.200
<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, he was just on fire. And when

0:58:47.240 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 2>you do an entry level contract in the NHL, you're

0:58:49.640 --> 0:58:53.200
<v Speaker 2>able to get bonuses. So that following training camp, I

0:58:53.240 --> 0:58:55.800
<v Speaker 2>was still on the team and we're riding the bike

0:58:55.920 --> 0:58:58.800
<v Speaker 2>and then this Frank Bernomo, who was like the PR guy,

0:58:59.160 --> 0:59:01.840
<v Speaker 2>he comes off and ops an envelope and you could

0:59:01.880 --> 0:59:04.840
<v Speaker 2>see once he opened it of Guinea Malklm's face lit

0:59:04.920 --> 0:59:06.480
<v Speaker 2>up and I was like, what's going on over there?

0:59:06.520 --> 0:59:07.560
<v Speaker 3>And he handed over and.

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:10.240
<v Speaker 2>It was like a million dollar check that he'd gotten

0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 2>for all his bonuses. And I was playing in the

0:59:12.120 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 2>A at the time, making peanuts, and I just like,

0:59:14.640 --> 0:59:16.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll never forget, and I think. A few days later,

0:59:16.880 --> 0:59:19.760
<v Speaker 2>his nine to eleven poor showed up, Like this guy

0:59:19.960 --> 0:59:23.000
<v Speaker 2>is just zipping around town. No way a cop would

0:59:23.000 --> 0:59:24.960
<v Speaker 2>pull him over because they probably knew it was Gino.

0:59:25.160 --> 0:59:28.480
<v Speaker 2>So just just living legends and a silly time in

0:59:28.520 --> 0:59:28.960
<v Speaker 2>my life.

0:59:29.160 --> 0:59:30.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, have you ever around when his parents

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 5>would show up?

0:59:32.680 --> 0:59:36.000
<v Speaker 2>I was not there, But that was when the iconic

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:39.760
<v Speaker 2>series that he had against the Carolina Hurricane. Oh that

0:59:39.840 --> 0:59:42.120
<v Speaker 2>backhanded going and when he had the hat trick that

0:59:42.160 --> 0:59:44.840
<v Speaker 2>game and he scored that wrap around goal he went

0:59:44.880 --> 0:59:46.720
<v Speaker 2>around the net and then he just like did like

0:59:46.760 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 2>a spinner am of backhand top cheese, and his mom's

0:59:50.120 --> 0:59:52.520
<v Speaker 2>crying in the stands and everybody's.

0:59:51.920 --> 0:59:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Like chanting, Geneo, Geneo.

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I actually unfortunately I was in the A

0:59:57.240 --> 0:59:59.680
<v Speaker 2>at the time then and we were in playoffs and

0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>I got hit ass over tea kettle. So I had

1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:04.640
<v Speaker 2>a guy hit me low and high, and it just

1:00:04.680 --> 1:00:06.760
<v Speaker 2>so happens the guy who hit me high, he stepped

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:10.760
<v Speaker 2>on my wrist, and so I was in getting surgery

1:00:11.080 --> 1:00:13.560
<v Speaker 2>because it cut my like tendons in my You.

1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:15.720
<v Speaker 3>Could die that way, they say. Usually if you want

1:00:15.720 --> 1:00:17.080
<v Speaker 3>to kill yourself, slit your wrists.

1:00:17.160 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 2>But I got up and I saw the person in

1:00:20.080 --> 1:00:22.160
<v Speaker 2>the front row. So we were in a playoff series

1:00:22.160 --> 1:00:25.960
<v Speaker 2>against the Hershey Bears, and their NHL team was the

1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Washington Capitals, and Pittsburgh was playing Washington in the second round.

1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:32.880
<v Speaker 2>That was always the biggest rivalry. It was OVI and

1:00:32.960 --> 1:00:35.560
<v Speaker 2>Sid where they would have to hatching games and it

1:00:35.600 --> 1:00:37.640
<v Speaker 2>would go to game seven. It was like, so good

1:00:37.640 --> 1:00:40.120
<v Speaker 2>for the game. These guys carry the league forever. And

1:00:40.200 --> 1:00:42.040
<v Speaker 2>so you know, I was in the a I got

1:00:42.080 --> 1:00:44.400
<v Speaker 2>my wrist stepped on and I got up and I

1:00:44.400 --> 1:00:46.440
<v Speaker 2>could see the people in the front row grabbing their

1:00:46.480 --> 1:00:49.400
<v Speaker 2>mouth being like oh my god. And I had blood

1:00:49.400 --> 1:00:51.800
<v Speaker 2>on my jersey. So I'm like patting my head, looking

1:00:51.840 --> 1:00:54.200
<v Speaker 2>at my hand, like what's bleeding? And then I looked

1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:56.440
<v Speaker 2>at my other hand and it just squirting out blood.

1:00:57.080 --> 1:00:59.120
<v Speaker 2>And we had a medic on the team who'd went

1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:02.400
<v Speaker 2>to like the I forget what war. It was like

1:01:02.400 --> 1:01:06.080
<v Speaker 2>like one of one of the stores or something, one

1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 2>of those where he that was like the least of

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:11.120
<v Speaker 2>what he'd seen. So fortunately I went down the tunnel

1:01:11.480 --> 1:01:13.880
<v Speaker 2>with a thread and needle. He closed it off. I

1:01:13.920 --> 1:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>was able to get to the hospital and they shipped

1:01:16.520 --> 1:01:18.480
<v Speaker 2>me off to Pittsburgh. So I was there for that

1:01:18.720 --> 1:01:21.360
<v Speaker 2>series for a couple of games when they were playing

1:01:21.400 --> 1:01:22.360
<v Speaker 2>against Washington.

1:01:22.440 --> 1:01:24.040
<v Speaker 4>That was that iconic series.

1:01:23.840 --> 1:01:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Story, hat trick game, the dueling hat trick, I want

1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to say, was in Washington, but I was watching it

1:01:29.040 --> 1:01:32.120
<v Speaker 2>on a TV when I was in Pittsburgh. And then

1:01:32.160 --> 1:01:34.120
<v Speaker 2>they ended up coming back to Pittsburgh for I think

1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:36.200
<v Speaker 2>it was like game six or something like that. So

1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:41.280
<v Speaker 2>just a crazy time and to be in the Pittsburgh organization.

1:01:41.440 --> 1:01:42.920
<v Speaker 5>Energy like in the old Iglue.

1:01:43.760 --> 1:01:47.960
<v Speaker 2>The ego was unbelievable, and the acoustics were perfect as

1:01:47.960 --> 1:01:51.960
<v Speaker 2>shitty as the dressing rooms were and whatever the facility,

1:01:52.360 --> 1:01:55.440
<v Speaker 2>who who gave a fuck? It was iconic and I

1:01:55.440 --> 1:01:57.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't care just because of the vibe in that arena.

1:01:58.160 --> 1:02:00.720
<v Speaker 2>It was awesome. Sucks they had to tear it down.

1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:03.160
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't like the way they build

1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:05.800
<v Speaker 2>these new rinks. There's not enough character in my opinion.

1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I like when they when they do them a little

1:02:07.760 --> 1:02:11.720
<v Speaker 2>different geez. But yeah, I know we kind of got

1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:12.480
<v Speaker 2>off the rails there.

1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:15.000
<v Speaker 5>Thank you for humoring me. You're the first penguin on

1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:17.200
<v Speaker 5>our show in one hundred episodes, so thank you.

1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:20.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it was, like I said, from Massachusetts, and

1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:21.520
<v Speaker 3>the guy's a Penguins fan.

1:02:21.720 --> 1:02:23.960
<v Speaker 5>I like the animal and my penguin. My parents like

1:02:24.200 --> 1:02:26.120
<v Speaker 5>spent some time in Pittsburgh. They lived in Swickly for.

1:02:26.080 --> 1:02:26.480
<v Speaker 3>A little bit.

1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:30.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's also Mario and it was Yager my number

1:02:30.360 --> 1:02:32.320
<v Speaker 5>growing up in the middle.

1:02:32.840 --> 1:02:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Mario was another guy just like Gretzky where they

1:02:35.800 --> 1:02:38.280
<v Speaker 2>would have been very close in points if he stayed

1:02:38.280 --> 1:02:41.040
<v Speaker 2>healthy and he didn't deal with the cancer and and

1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:44.840
<v Speaker 2>the back issues, and like Mario was just badass man.

1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:46.640
<v Speaker 2>He would show up like I don't I don't know

1:02:46.640 --> 1:02:48.640
<v Speaker 2>how much training he was doing in the off season,

1:02:48.720 --> 1:02:51.760
<v Speaker 2>but he'd be ripping heaters and fucking goal out there,

1:02:51.800 --> 1:02:53.960
<v Speaker 2>like two goals to assist, like it was easy.

1:02:54.200 --> 1:02:55.680
<v Speaker 4>How big of a legend are you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I see it a lot with these hockey guys. Man,

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<v Speaker 3>I went out.

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<v Speaker 1>I I just remember going out with you guys, and

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<v Speaker 1>you guys would have a game the next day. I

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<v Speaker 1>would be in like offseason training, like stressing, like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna be able to run tomorrow for team run.

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<v Speaker 1>These guys go out and fucking play hockey The next day,

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<v Speaker 1>he dialed Savages Savages. We'll be right back after this

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<v Speaker 1>quick break.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's let's go back into time.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a segment where we go back into time

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<v Speaker 1>around where the game took place. We talk over pop culture.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be a little weird because this happened

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<v Speaker 1>fucking last week. So February twenty first, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's funny because it has the fiftieth anniversary of

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday at Live. Wayne was supposed to go to that.

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<v Speaker 2>We talk about him being the ambassador he was when

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<v Speaker 2>he came to LA. He became so popular he ended

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<v Speaker 2>up hosting Saturday at Live one time. So he got

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<v Speaker 2>invited to that. He unfortunately didn't make it, but he

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<v Speaker 2>had TNT right, Yeah, he had tntdn T.

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<v Speaker 1>Fiftieth Anniversary Saturday Live last week, White Lotus Season three.

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<v Speaker 3>You watch that.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch television. I should get watch more, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't watch TV.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you do at night?

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<v Speaker 2>I just, uh, I'm just so invested in hockey and

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<v Speaker 2>and trying to be on top of it all. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a hockey junkie, and yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just uh, I don't watch TV for whatever reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But you recommend White Lotus.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>I did the Breaking Bad I did, Uh what other one?

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of the best series of all time

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<v Speaker 2>was the one that Woody Harrelson was in True Detectives.

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<v Speaker 2>Was at season two season one? That was probably the

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<v Speaker 2>best show I've ever watched.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was the guy yesterday at La Skate? Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>Taylor Kish was really good at you like that Moegs

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<v Speaker 5>from Yes He was so good yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I saw a skill.

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<v Speaker 3>There's three or four actors.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm like that guy and Lee the guy from Chorsey

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<v Speaker 5>to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, So I'm good buddies with Terry Ryan, like

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<v Speaker 2>Terry Yes, Teddy Purcell who played for the La Kings,

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<v Speaker 2>He's good buddies with this Terry Ryan. And he's like

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<v Speaker 2>this folk hero back in Newfoundland. And he wasn't on

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<v Speaker 2>Shoresy yet, like he just retired and was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>trying to find his way. And Teddy Purcell said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this guy is a character. You need to get him

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<v Speaker 2>on your podcast. And we got him on. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that Jared Kiso had found out about him because

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<v Speaker 2>of it, and he'd already been doing a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of acting as well, So it kind of just propelled

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<v Speaker 2>this career that he's now on. He's doing Shoresy. He

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<v Speaker 2>ended up playing another game in the EHL after many

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<v Speaker 2>years of being retired, so he's just become kind of

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<v Speaker 2>this like folklore hero.

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<v Speaker 4>He looks looks the part Terry.

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<v Speaker 3>He played it all last night like he was playing

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<v Speaker 3>in character, like booing the fans, and I was like, what.

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<v Speaker 2>The ten Hitchcock is his name on ten inch Cock? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>the playoff of it on Shoorsy, But just an unreal guy.

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<v Speaker 3>He's good handles.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, by the way, I absolutely love the KHL episodes.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys do this is incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>Anytime you get guys on that played in the KS

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<v Speaker 5>incredible stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially when we get him back from guys who

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<v Speaker 2>played in the Super League before it turned into the KHL.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, the ship that they got going on in

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<v Speaker 2>Russia is just gnarly. One guy told the story about

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<v Speaker 2>how he would go on the road trip, he would

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<v Speaker 2>come back and like his his like furniture would be

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<v Speaker 2>a little off, so he thought he had ghosts in

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<v Speaker 2>his apartment and he got injured on the road one

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<v Speaker 2>time where he told the coach, hey, my Groin's hanging

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<v Speaker 2>on by a thread, like I can't play. So they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're not going to bring you on the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the week and a half of the road trip. So

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<v Speaker 2>they flew him back and he tried to open up

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<v Speaker 2>his apartment and the dead bolt was on. A family

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<v Speaker 2>would be living in his apartment when he was on

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<v Speaker 2>the road. He had no idea. So that's why the

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<v Speaker 2>in Russia. In Russia, just the shit that was. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>they would go on a gold rout a couple of games,

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<v Speaker 2>they got shut out practice time, Hey boys, everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>the ice early, they'd slaughter like a goat or like

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<v Speaker 2>a lamb on the ice, slit the throat, blood all

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<v Speaker 2>out in the crease. They'd cook up the lamb after practice,

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<v Speaker 2>eat it, and that that would cure the goal scoring drought.

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<v Speaker 2>So just the shit they had going on.

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<v Speaker 1>The Eastern Europeans, bro like the Russians, any kind you

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<v Speaker 1>anytime you hear a stand on something, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Kakistans of these stands, of that stand, they're fighting bears.

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<v Speaker 2>They're showing up to pick up the guys at the

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<v Speaker 2>airport with Ak forty sevens.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean standard in those countries.

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<v Speaker 4>The one of the owners.

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<v Speaker 2>One time he didn't think the ref was calling a

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<v Speaker 2>good game, so he came down on the bench and.

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<v Speaker 3>He killed him.

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<v Speaker 4>He threatened his family. I thought he killed him. No

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<v Speaker 4>may maybe after the game.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if this ref has ever been seen

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<v Speaker 2>or heard from again, but at least at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one of the one of the owners coming in

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<v Speaker 2>the room with an AK forty seven like, yelling at

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<v Speaker 2>the guys for not playing hard enough. It was guys

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<v Speaker 2>getting paid cash at practice, and then they'd come back

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<v Speaker 2>after and the duffel bag they got paid in was gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Just guys flying back home goalies where they would take

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<v Speaker 2>all the stuffing out of their pads, put the cash

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<v Speaker 2>in there, and then stuff like sew it back up

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<v Speaker 2>and fly back with the cash so they didn't the

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<v Speaker 2>pay tax on it and get it out of there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now is it American cash or is it?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that they were paying them in US dollars

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<v Speaker 4>these players, so.

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<v Speaker 3>Cash is king? All right, Let's break down the game.

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<v Speaker 5>This team USA team Quick with It, led by Mike Selvin.

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<v Speaker 5>The twenty three man roster had a saw mix events

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<v Speaker 5>and young Bucks. This team featured two sets of brothers

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<v Speaker 5>and six sets of NHL teammates, notable dudes Austin Matthews,

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<v Speaker 5>the Tucks, Jack Eichel, Jake Gunsel, Connor Hellibuck, and Charlie McAvoy.

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<v Speaker 5>It's an all star team, so there's more names.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's an all star team. But we didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>our best all stars out there because McAvoy had a

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<v Speaker 3>fucking shoulder thing. What's this? What's this? Got an infection?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>So from according to the Boston Bruins, they released a statement.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they were necessarily crazy about how

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<v Speaker 2>it was handled. So it escalated to now where he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to miss more time. They said it was an

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<v Speaker 2>affection in his shoulder. That's the only details that I got. See.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the this is the ship that could get

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<v Speaker 1>the all staring games fucked up.

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<v Speaker 3>Your star player goes down. Yeah, yeah, you don't want

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<v Speaker 3>this is it? You know what I mean? This is

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<v Speaker 3>the only this is why, this is what all the

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<v Speaker 3>other people are going to say, like, this is why

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<v Speaker 3>the other leagues don't play their best players all time.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would.

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<v Speaker 2>Be shortsighted to not understand what this did for the game.

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<v Speaker 2>That is part of the discrepancy and why the owners

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<v Speaker 2>push back on doing the Olympics. The Olympics don't pay

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<v Speaker 2>the NHL anything to use their resources, so these owners

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<v Speaker 2>are worried about these guys going and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you got a guy like Jack Hughes, Well what if

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<v Speaker 2>he goes down where you're trying to make a playoff

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<v Speaker 2>push with the New Jersey Devils. So I thought, in

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect world, there maybe could be some financial kickback

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<v Speaker 2>considering what hockey is doing for the Olympics or these

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<v Speaker 2>one off events. But I guess the viewership and the

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<v Speaker 2>exposure to the game should be enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, how do you describe this US team? Unreal?

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<v Speaker 2>They got, they got a little bit of everything. The

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing about the US is the guys that they

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<v Speaker 2>still have coming up right, And there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>young guys on this roster, like Brock Faber, very young

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<v Speaker 2>defenseman for the Minnesota while where if you would have

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<v Speaker 2>watched him play you would have been like, this guy's

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty year old season vet. Another guy Jacob Slavin,

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<v Speaker 2>like these guys are were not household names for this tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>who are just at exceptional exceptional players. Zach Wrensky's still young.

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<v Speaker 2>Quinn Hughes, I want to think. I think he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>what twenty five years old? He's not that old, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six. So that's what really stands out to me

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<v Speaker 2>is just where USA Hockey is heading and the guys

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<v Speaker 2>that they have on this roster.

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<v Speaker 3>What's prime age for hockey?

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<v Speaker 2>It might be like this with football, but there's it's

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<v Speaker 2>slowly going down or course or quickly moving like down

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<v Speaker 2>in age. I would say prime would probably be about

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eight years old now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'd say that that's when I was at my

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<v Speaker 1>athletic prime. Yeah, twenty eight, twenty nine, twenty eight. It's

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<v Speaker 1>when your man strength hits your your knowledge.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much the peak. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>that US are really hitting that stride. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>about Canada and now is is Sidney Crosby's on the

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<v Speaker 2>back nine, so that really sucks. Brad mar Shaw's on

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<v Speaker 2>the back nine. So really this and the Olympics will

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<v Speaker 2>be oh yeah, exactly, will be a passing of the torch,

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<v Speaker 2>more so for the Canadians than the Americans. And we

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<v Speaker 2>did touch on the Russians political climate aside. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a travesty if Russia was not able

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<v Speaker 2>to compete in the next Olympics in hockey just because

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<v Speaker 2>of when Crosby and Ovechkin came into the league, there

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<v Speaker 2>was so much expectation, and these guys have carried the

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<v Speaker 2>league for twenty years, and you would be.

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<v Speaker 4>Able to have.

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<v Speaker 2>Malcoln Ovechkin, Bebrovski and some of these older Russian players

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<v Speaker 2>who have carried the torch for them handing it off

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<v Speaker 2>to the Capricesovs in the next wave of Russian player

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<v Speaker 2>and much like Canada, so to not have them involved

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<v Speaker 2>as a top five hockey nation would would suck specifically

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<v Speaker 2>for the hockey topic. Like sometimes when I say that

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<v Speaker 2>on a podcast like ours, you'll see people commenting like

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<v Speaker 2>there's a reason they're not involved.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like, bro, I don't know what the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck is going on with all this warfare and political

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<v Speaker 2>bullshit politics. Yeah, I got my grade ten. I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>fucking Ricky from Trailer Park Boys for crying out route

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<v Speaker 2>Like I got three percent on my grade eleven math exam.

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<v Speaker 4>I fail. I failed.

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<v Speaker 2>I failed my States and Capital's test for crying out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>So like, don't look at me for that.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to see good hockey Canada or of

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<v Speaker 4>US US US.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's understandable. You're not from here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah right, thank you, thank you for back.

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<v Speaker 3>That's understandable.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're a great guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there'd be like I would tell you, there's

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<v Speaker 3>probably fifty percent of the NFL that doesn't know all

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<v Speaker 3>the states and can ree.

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<v Speaker 2>And and to be fair, I probably i'd probably fail

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<v Speaker 2>my territory in province a test too if if we

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<v Speaker 2>had it in Canada.

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<v Speaker 5>So uh yeah, not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

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<v Speaker 2>And also well, going back to my concussions, a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of CT here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a great thing to blame. It's it's a good card.

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<v Speaker 3>As an ex athlete, you'll usually roll on that one.

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<v Speaker 6>We're gonna name yeah for a living for twelve years

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<v Speaker 6>for syllable word ct C T E y C Yeah no,

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<v Speaker 6>I meant going earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah sorry c T T yeah T.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you describe this Canada team?

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<v Speaker 5>On Team Canada led by John Cooper as usual, this

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<v Speaker 5>is a heck of a roster led by vets Sidney Crosby,

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<v Speaker 5>Brad marsh On along with three lightning players uh Fords

1:13:34.880 --> 1:13:40.200
<v Speaker 5>were Stack, Conor McDavid, Nathan McKinnon, Mitch Marner, goaltender Bennington,

1:13:40.360 --> 1:13:41.799
<v Speaker 5>just the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought he was. I was watching that game. He

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<v Speaker 1>had like four or five saves that I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this game should be over. Yeah, he had some like

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<v Speaker 1>unreal saves in overtime and late in like the third

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<v Speaker 1>I think, did he not or he just fucking swiped

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<v Speaker 1>that thing you're bang on?

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<v Speaker 2>And and I don't know how many people listening know

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<v Speaker 2>his story kind of like my trajectory where he's gotten

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of trouble and and you know, was

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<v Speaker 2>down in the EHL and Ahl and then eventually he

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<v Speaker 2>got recalled halfway through the year, the year that Saint

1:14:15.280 --> 1:14:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Louis won the Stanley Cup, and he just went on

1:14:17.680 --> 1:14:21.599
<v Speaker 2>this incredible tear and and uh, he's actually named after

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan. His father named him after Michael Jordan. He

1:14:25.000 --> 1:14:28.000
<v Speaker 2>just kind of has that that pedigree where the bigger

1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:30.720
<v Speaker 2>the moment, the bigger he plays. And uh, he won

1:14:30.800 --> 1:14:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Game seven in the Boston Garden. Uh, and then you know,

1:14:34.800 --> 1:14:37.080
<v Speaker 2>since then has had a great career, but he really

1:14:37.240 --> 1:14:41.200
<v Speaker 2>thrives under pressure and those moments where his regular season

1:14:41.280 --> 1:14:44.519
<v Speaker 2>numbers might not be the best, but if you got

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<v Speaker 2>one game and you need a goalie in that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that's who I'm picking for Team Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>Nut cutting time.

1:14:50.640 --> 1:14:54.040
<v Speaker 2>That's the guy that's the the been Nasty. They call

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<v Speaker 2>him the Snowman. I don't need to go into that,

1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:58.120
<v Speaker 2>but he's got a lot of fun nicknames and he's

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<v Speaker 2>absolute character off the ice, going up top to John

1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:05.240
<v Speaker 2>Cooper obviously won a couple Cups with the Tampa Bay Lightning.

1:15:05.560 --> 1:15:08.479
<v Speaker 2>I would compare him to like a hockey's version of

1:15:08.479 --> 1:15:14.120
<v Speaker 2>Phil Jackson, not you know, ten championships, but so well spoken,

1:15:14.280 --> 1:15:18.200
<v Speaker 2>so methodical, unreal on the mic, an incredible motivator and

1:15:18.400 --> 1:15:21.599
<v Speaker 2>just really knows how to manage the egos, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and not to say Canada has egos in the locker room,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you're when you got Cott Crosby's, the McKinnon's

1:15:27.320 --> 1:15:29.920
<v Speaker 2>and the McDavid's and the dogs, you know, you have to,

1:15:30.560 --> 1:15:32.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, find a way to gel all of them together.

1:15:33.080 --> 1:15:35.720
<v Speaker 2>He is the perfect guy for the job, along with

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<v Speaker 2>Rick Tockett. Remember that I mentioned him being on the panel, Yeah,

1:15:39.600 --> 1:15:41.720
<v Speaker 2>he was. He should be a Hall of Famer from

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<v Speaker 2>a player standpoint. Uh. He actually is the NHL record

1:15:45.920 --> 1:15:49.879
<v Speaker 2>holder for Gordi Hal Hatricks so a goal and assists

1:15:49.880 --> 1:15:52.160
<v Speaker 2>in a fight, and he was an absolute nail gun

1:15:52.200 --> 1:15:54.160
<v Speaker 2>when he played, Wow, like he could do it all

1:15:54.200 --> 1:15:57.120
<v Speaker 2>This guy was was a machine. So now he's coaching

1:15:57.240 --> 1:16:00.000
<v Speaker 2>after doing the panel and he was the assistant. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the I mean the players we can list off

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<v Speaker 2>like you just did McDavid, absolute electric factory Crosby. I

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<v Speaker 2>believe he will go down as a mount Rushmore player.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard because the debate is is you have Gordie Howe,

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<v Speaker 2>you have Bobby or Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who you take off that list, and most

1:16:22.439 --> 1:16:24.880
<v Speaker 2>people listening might say you're not taking any of them

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<v Speaker 2>off the list, while then we're chiseling out a fifth

1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:30.400
<v Speaker 2>because Sydney Crosby and what he's able to do as

1:16:30.400 --> 1:16:34.360
<v Speaker 2>an layer, and fuck chisel on a six once he

1:16:34.360 --> 1:16:36.759
<v Speaker 2>breaks the goal record, like I don't know, like maybe

1:16:37.080 --> 1:16:40.479
<v Speaker 2>maybe you do a modern day version of it and

1:16:40.640 --> 1:16:43.320
<v Speaker 2>eventually Cale mccarr will be on it because that's just

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<v Speaker 2>how good he is. So and then fucking Nathan McKinnon,

1:16:47.160 --> 1:16:49.840
<v Speaker 2>like you could argue as good as Connor McDavid. Is

1:16:49.880 --> 1:16:52.759
<v Speaker 2>that Nathan McKinnon in the last two year stretch is better.

1:16:53.000 --> 1:16:56.280
<v Speaker 2>He won the MVP last year. He's got his Stanley Cup.

1:16:57.520 --> 1:17:00.200
<v Speaker 2>I believe he did. He win to Konsmith was a

1:17:00.280 --> 1:17:05.960
<v Speaker 2>cal mccarr who got it. But Nathan McKinnon might might

1:17:06.000 --> 1:17:08.719
<v Speaker 2>win another m v P this year. And to watch

1:17:08.760 --> 1:17:13.680
<v Speaker 2>him play, much like McDavid. He is ferocious, He gallops

1:17:13.720 --> 1:17:15.920
<v Speaker 2>on the ice, he will hit guys and he can

1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:21.880
<v Speaker 2>do it all. I actually Bang for Buck would probably

1:17:22.040 --> 1:17:25.639
<v Speaker 2>put McKinnon's slight edge favorite over who to watch more

1:17:25.680 --> 1:17:29.439
<v Speaker 2>so than McDavid. No disrespect to Connor, like I love Connor.

1:17:30.040 --> 1:17:33.040
<v Speaker 2>I just like the fact that McKinnon he is he's

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<v Speaker 2>tapped like MJ. Like he's the guy in the locker room,

1:17:36.280 --> 1:17:38.519
<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't matter if it's his best friend. If

1:17:38.560 --> 1:17:41.400
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't think you're bringing it that day, he'll be like.

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<v Speaker 3>What the fuck are you doing? Move the fucking buck,

1:17:44.920 --> 1:17:47.880
<v Speaker 3>and like that's just how he is. He's the dog.

1:17:48.479 --> 1:17:51.320
<v Speaker 2>He's the dog and everybody has to match his intensity.

1:17:51.760 --> 1:17:53.840
<v Speaker 2>It was good when they had Landeskog on the team

1:17:53.840 --> 1:17:56.000
<v Speaker 2>because he was a perfect balance in the locker room

1:17:56.240 --> 1:17:59.519
<v Speaker 2>guy blue guy to maybe calm him him down a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. But apparently he will not say a word

1:18:03.080 --> 1:18:05.559
<v Speaker 2>to mccarr, which is actually funny because he's actually younger

1:18:05.560 --> 1:18:07.519
<v Speaker 2>than him. But that just tells you how big of

1:18:07.560 --> 1:18:09.320
<v Speaker 2>a dog mcar is too.

1:18:09.600 --> 1:18:10.879
<v Speaker 3>Who's the team asshole?

1:18:14.760 --> 1:18:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I would say that Marshawn plays a perfect villain and

1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:21.680
<v Speaker 2>is a guy who from a veteran standpoint and the

1:18:21.720 --> 1:18:25.439
<v Speaker 2>fact that he doesn't have to carry the weight as

1:18:25.479 --> 1:18:27.360
<v Speaker 2>so much of a player in that locker room that

1:18:27.360 --> 1:18:30.160
<v Speaker 2>we're looking at right now. He's the guy who probably

1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:33.080
<v Speaker 2>handles all the media and settles the guy down the best,

1:18:33.200 --> 1:18:35.240
<v Speaker 2>and is also chirping the most on the bench.

1:18:35.640 --> 1:18:36.559
<v Speaker 3>You don't want you.

1:18:36.520 --> 1:18:41.040
<v Speaker 2>Don't want Connor or McKinnon having to worry about Josh

1:18:41.200 --> 1:18:43.439
<v Speaker 2>with the other team. You want to have guys who

1:18:43.439 --> 1:18:46.600
<v Speaker 2>are the factors and guys taking the focus away from that.

1:18:47.200 --> 1:18:50.679
<v Speaker 2>I thought hegel did an incredible job against fighting Matthew

1:18:50.720 --> 1:18:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Kuchuck even though he's a little bit undersized, and handle

1:18:54.320 --> 1:18:55.960
<v Speaker 2>himself well in the media as well.

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<v Speaker 4>So Canada had its dogs in the lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you sum up this rivalry Canada US? Now,

1:19:02.840 --> 1:19:04.519
<v Speaker 1>it's got to be at the highest it's ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that hockey is going to do insane

1:19:08.120 --> 1:19:11.800
<v Speaker 2>numbers at the Olympics in Italy. I also think that

1:19:11.880 --> 1:19:16.960
<v Speaker 2>this experience of controlling the Best on Best tells me

1:19:17.200 --> 1:19:20.800
<v Speaker 2>that the NHL doesn't need the Olympics to grow it

1:19:21.600 --> 1:19:25.160
<v Speaker 2>because you're also in a different time zone. So now

1:19:25.160 --> 1:19:28.559
<v Speaker 2>it's inconveniencing North America, where hockey is at its biggest,

1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:32.360
<v Speaker 2>and also with the best on Best being either in

1:19:32.520 --> 1:19:36.600
<v Speaker 2>North America and or Sweden in Finland, you are in

1:19:36.720 --> 1:19:39.720
<v Speaker 2>the mecca of where hockey can grow the most and

1:19:39.800 --> 1:19:42.679
<v Speaker 2>the most people are watching. And if you do control

1:19:42.680 --> 1:19:45.920
<v Speaker 2>at North America, they were starting the Sweden Finland game

1:19:46.040 --> 1:19:50.759
<v Speaker 2>and the Finland Sweden games even against US and Canada

1:19:51.000 --> 1:19:54.080
<v Speaker 2>at one o'clock, so that's prime time for over there.

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<v Speaker 2>So if I'm the NHL, I focus on making that

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<v Speaker 2>World Cup and controlling that and also keeping it North

1:20:00.840 --> 1:20:04.439
<v Speaker 2>American rules where you're not having Olympic ice, you're allowed

1:20:04.479 --> 1:20:07.600
<v Speaker 2>to fight, because I think that fighting in hockey is

1:20:07.640 --> 1:20:10.960
<v Speaker 2>what differentiates us from other sports and gives us that

1:20:11.080 --> 1:20:14.639
<v Speaker 2>added edge. Considering of the four major sports, it's probably

1:20:14.680 --> 1:20:18.080
<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the totem pole, but with continuing

1:20:18.120 --> 1:20:21.479
<v Speaker 2>best on Best Olympics and World Cup, I think it

1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:24.400
<v Speaker 2>can continue to claw away and propel at that audience.

1:20:24.560 --> 1:20:27.799
<v Speaker 3>I think your klawon at baseball, bubs, Yeah, baseball's brutal.

1:20:27.840 --> 1:20:29.439
<v Speaker 3>Baseball and basketball are up for the klon.

1:20:29.760 --> 1:20:33.080
<v Speaker 2>It's brutal. I think basketball is such a horrible product now.

1:20:33.640 --> 1:20:36.599
<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think that Lebron and Steph Curry

1:20:37.040 --> 1:20:39.519
<v Speaker 2>and those guys did a great job of carrying the

1:20:39.560 --> 1:20:42.560
<v Speaker 2>league for a long time. But much like the Crosby's

1:20:42.640 --> 1:20:46.040
<v Speaker 2>and the Ovi's, they're handing it off in amazing hands.

1:20:46.200 --> 1:20:48.880
<v Speaker 2>Whereas I don't know if that's the case in basketball

1:20:48.960 --> 1:20:49.280
<v Speaker 2>right now.

1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:49.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know who.

1:20:50.280 --> 1:20:52.479
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who the next wave are. And that's

1:20:52.520 --> 1:20:56.680
<v Speaker 2>no disrespect to the sport. It's just the time is ours, buddy.

1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:57.680
<v Speaker 3>That is it is.

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<v Speaker 5>Let me do the lead up real quick and blasphe

1:21:00.760 --> 1:21:02.960
<v Speaker 5>this so for a nation's tournament, we all kind of

1:21:02.960 --> 1:21:05.280
<v Speaker 5>know at this point. Newist in Canada played that game

1:21:05.320 --> 1:21:07.759
<v Speaker 5>beforehand on Saturday night start off with three three fights

1:21:07.840 --> 1:21:13.240
<v Speaker 5>going in hot, so anticipation for final in Boston was huge.

1:21:13.439 --> 1:21:17.640
<v Speaker 1>The Trump comments, the boom, this it just all manifested

1:21:17.680 --> 1:21:19.759
<v Speaker 1>into like this was the biggest game.

1:21:20.560 --> 1:21:26.120
<v Speaker 2>And also the WWE approach that the Kuchuck brothers took Canadians.

1:21:25.479 --> 1:21:28.560
<v Speaker 3>Are a little couldn't be a better name away the

1:21:28.680 --> 1:21:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Christkchuck brothers and Walt.

1:21:32.360 --> 1:21:34.960
<v Speaker 2>That's what they call him, Keith Kachuck. There was a

1:21:35.000 --> 1:21:38.120
<v Speaker 2>former Walt Kachuk in the NHL. That's why Keith Chuck's

1:21:38.200 --> 1:21:42.559
<v Speaker 2>name nickname became yeah, And I think that people thought

1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:45.559
<v Speaker 2>it was his kid, but it wasn't. He should be

1:21:45.560 --> 1:21:47.479
<v Speaker 2>a Hall of Famer in his own right. He scored

1:21:47.479 --> 1:21:50.600
<v Speaker 2>five hundred goals. He was very impactful in growing the

1:21:50.640 --> 1:21:53.360
<v Speaker 2>game with the ninety six World Cup of Hockey where

1:21:53.520 --> 1:21:57.040
<v Speaker 2>US shock Canada and that was another moment that propelled

1:21:57.080 --> 1:22:00.320
<v Speaker 2>hockey United States and the growth of it here. And

1:22:00.479 --> 1:22:02.439
<v Speaker 2>just the fact that he passed a torch on to

1:22:02.520 --> 1:22:06.439
<v Speaker 2>his boys. And Canadians handle it a little bit different.

1:22:06.479 --> 1:22:09.040
<v Speaker 2>They're a little bit more silent in their approach. They

1:22:09.080 --> 1:22:12.240
<v Speaker 2>handle their business as such. But in the States you

1:22:12.320 --> 1:22:14.360
<v Speaker 2>have to do things differently. If you're hockey, you have

1:22:14.439 --> 1:22:16.600
<v Speaker 2>to be a little bit more loud mouthed. So the

1:22:16.640 --> 1:22:18.599
<v Speaker 2>fact that they were going on and talking about that

1:22:18.640 --> 1:22:21.920
<v Speaker 2>group chat and yappin, I love that. I think that

1:22:21.920 --> 1:22:24.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the WWE approach And I'm so grateful that they

1:22:24.920 --> 1:22:27.120
<v Speaker 2>did it, because there's a reason that it hits sixty

1:22:27.200 --> 1:22:29.400
<v Speaker 2>million viewers, and they're a big part of that.

1:22:29.800 --> 1:22:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

1:22:30.560 --> 1:22:32.519
<v Speaker 1>Now, you got to explain to us this game goes

1:22:32.560 --> 1:22:36.320
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. It goes, you know, one Canada, one US.

1:22:36.800 --> 1:22:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Then Canada hits it up again, the US ties it up,

1:22:40.680 --> 1:22:43.759
<v Speaker 1>they get into ot explain overtime to us or it's.

1:22:43.640 --> 1:22:44.320
<v Speaker 3>The other way around.

1:22:44.360 --> 1:22:48.920
<v Speaker 5>The kidding scored first, followed by the to Chuck Kim.

1:22:49.600 --> 1:22:52.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Brady could chuck and he wasn't even supposed to

1:22:52.280 --> 1:22:54.599
<v Speaker 2>play because he was a little banged up, as well

1:22:54.680 --> 1:22:58.000
<v Speaker 2>as Matthew being banged up. And Brady scores his goal

1:22:58.040 --> 1:23:00.639
<v Speaker 2>when obviously he's going to the blue pain and the crease.

1:23:00.680 --> 1:23:03.839
<v Speaker 2>And I thought that Austin Matthews had two great assists

1:23:03.880 --> 1:23:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and he played a tremendous game. And then USA took

1:23:06.840 --> 1:23:09.639
<v Speaker 2>the lead. This kid, Jake Sanderson, who wasn't even supposed

1:23:09.680 --> 1:23:12.760
<v Speaker 2>to be at the tournament, another unbelievable youngster, took Quinn

1:23:12.840 --> 1:23:16.799
<v Speaker 2>Hughes's spot, scores the goal ahead goal. And then Mitchie Marner,

1:23:17.960 --> 1:23:20.280
<v Speaker 2>a Canadian kid who had a lot of pressure coming

1:23:20.320 --> 1:23:23.160
<v Speaker 2>on to him in this game because he'd never really

1:23:23.200 --> 1:23:25.439
<v Speaker 2>lived up to a big moment and he ends up

1:23:25.479 --> 1:23:28.800
<v Speaker 2>making a great playover to Sam the Bennett Menace, who's

1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:31.280
<v Speaker 2>a savage on the ice. He's a savage. He's the

1:23:31.320 --> 1:23:33.519
<v Speaker 2>one who sucker punched Marshawn that series.

1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, who got.

1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:36.680
<v Speaker 4>Away with it? And then that set the table for

1:23:36.800 --> 1:23:37.519
<v Speaker 4>overtime and.

1:23:37.840 --> 1:23:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Now they're playing on the same team.

1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>McDavid needed a moment in a game like this, and

1:23:43.400 --> 1:23:45.799
<v Speaker 2>you know he got that beautiful pass for Mitchie Marner

1:23:45.800 --> 1:23:48.800
<v Speaker 2>and the slot and you even said it though, going

1:23:48.840 --> 1:23:51.800
<v Speaker 2>back before that, Bennington made three four ten bel saves

1:23:51.840 --> 1:23:53.040
<v Speaker 2>where this game should have been over.

1:23:53.240 --> 1:23:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I thought we were winning like four times. And can

1:23:55.439 --> 1:23:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you explain overtime? What's the world is a golden goals?

1:23:57.360 --> 1:24:00.160
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it changed because in the round raw and

1:24:00.200 --> 1:24:01.880
<v Speaker 2>it was three on three, which is a rule that

1:24:01.920 --> 1:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>the NHL adopted to make overtime more.

1:24:04.120 --> 1:24:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Excited, names quicker, probably faster, quicker.

1:24:07.200 --> 1:24:10.479
<v Speaker 2>And more games are ending in overtime as opposed to shootout,

1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:13.320
<v Speaker 2>which I don't like to shootout. So but when you

1:24:13.360 --> 1:24:16.000
<v Speaker 2>go to the gold medal game, you actually go back

1:24:16.040 --> 1:24:18.719
<v Speaker 2>to five on five, the golden goal, first goal to score.

1:24:18.760 --> 1:24:22.200
<v Speaker 2>It's it's game over. And that's the way that hockey

1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:24.600
<v Speaker 2>should be played, especially in a moment like this. And uh,

1:24:25.120 --> 1:24:28.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, Connor McDavid, they had an ozone draw. They

1:24:28.240 --> 1:24:30.519
<v Speaker 2>made a great play along the wall from Cale mccarr

1:24:30.520 --> 1:24:33.200
<v Speaker 2>over to Mitch Marner and he fed McDavid for that

1:24:33.240 --> 1:24:34.320
<v Speaker 2>moment and he didn't.

1:24:34.040 --> 1:24:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Miss so and he was silent the whole game.

1:24:37.160 --> 1:24:39.240
<v Speaker 2>He did not have a great game. He seemed a

1:24:39.280 --> 1:24:41.960
<v Speaker 2>little bit nervous, his reads were off, and he self

1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:45.040
<v Speaker 2>admittedly said that in his postgame press conference. But what

1:24:45.160 --> 1:24:49.000
<v Speaker 2>do big, big players do? Tom Brady didn't have a

1:24:49.000 --> 1:24:52.120
<v Speaker 2>good first half against the Falcons. You didn't either. You

1:24:52.120 --> 1:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>guys were dog shit shit. But you guys went in

1:24:54.280 --> 1:24:57.679
<v Speaker 2>the locker room, you figured things out. Boom boom.

1:24:57.800 --> 1:25:00.799
<v Speaker 3>You guys, not how you start, always how you finished finished. Baby.

1:25:00.880 --> 1:25:04.360
<v Speaker 5>So, Canada won the first ever Four Nations face off

1:25:04.479 --> 1:25:07.960
<v Speaker 5>three to two in overtime. Nath McKinnon went MVP National

1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:10.120
<v Speaker 5>Emergency in Canada avoided yep.

1:25:11.000 --> 1:25:14.959
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Now what does this game mean winning for Canada

1:25:15.360 --> 1:25:17.800
<v Speaker 3>winning the first four Nations? Where this could go?

1:25:18.040 --> 1:25:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is it is it important for Canada, the

1:25:20.960 --> 1:25:24.200
<v Speaker 1>inventor of the sport, to win the first one.

1:25:24.560 --> 1:25:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Just for the record, so this is going to go forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, based on on on ridicule in the amount of

1:25:30.479 --> 1:25:32.360
<v Speaker 2>comments that would have kime after God.

1:25:32.280 --> 1:25:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Forbid, America would have won the first four nations.

1:25:35.360 --> 1:25:35.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it had more to do with the

1:25:37.479 --> 1:25:40.479
<v Speaker 2>fact that, like Canada is is, you know, they're not

1:25:40.600 --> 1:25:42.960
<v Speaker 2>struggling big time right now, but the economy is in

1:25:43.000 --> 1:25:45.080
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a dip. Our dollars not doing good.

1:25:45.120 --> 1:25:49.360
<v Speaker 2>We're changing, we're changing leadership very soon. And you know,

1:25:49.479 --> 1:25:51.840
<v Speaker 2>hockey is the one thing that we get to fall

1:25:51.880 --> 1:25:54.280
<v Speaker 2>back on, and that's our sport. We feel like we're

1:25:54.280 --> 1:25:56.439
<v Speaker 2>the creators of it. If you look at the long

1:25:56.520 --> 1:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>history of it, we've been very dominant, especially against the

1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:01.479
<v Speaker 2>United States, and you know, that's the one thing we

1:26:01.560 --> 1:26:03.360
<v Speaker 2>can hang our hat on. And when you guys came

1:26:03.400 --> 1:26:07.080
<v Speaker 2>into our building in Canada in Montreal, the mecca of

1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:10.559
<v Speaker 2>hockey along with Toronto, and you punch us in the

1:26:10.600 --> 1:26:12.840
<v Speaker 2>face and then won that game and ran us out

1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:16.600
<v Speaker 2>of the building, we needed a response. So we end

1:26:16.680 --> 1:26:19.840
<v Speaker 2>up winning that gold medal game. But really, as of

1:26:19.920 --> 1:26:22.719
<v Speaker 2>right now, it's one one and that's why the table

1:26:22.720 --> 1:26:25.360
<v Speaker 2>has been set so perfectly for the Olympics, Like this

1:26:25.439 --> 1:26:27.920
<v Speaker 2>isn't over. This is just the beginning of what's about

1:26:27.920 --> 1:26:30.240
<v Speaker 2>to happen. It's just the beginning, just the beginning.

1:26:30.320 --> 1:26:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Let's name this game, and let's score this game, and

1:26:33.439 --> 1:26:36.000
<v Speaker 3>let's see where it ranks in our top one hundred

1:26:36.080 --> 1:26:38.280
<v Speaker 3>games or one hundred games that we've fucking done those.

1:26:38.479 --> 1:26:41.000
<v Speaker 3>We're close to one hundred games. Name of the game,

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<v Speaker 3>the Four Nations Final, Oh, Canada, suck it.

1:26:45.840 --> 1:26:48.720
<v Speaker 4>Suck at kachuck is kind of a funny ring to it.

1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:52.960
<v Speaker 3>The McDavid game, the goal in the garden, our game,

1:26:54.280 --> 1:26:57.080
<v Speaker 3>just the beginning. Or if you have a name that

1:26:57.120 --> 1:26:59.559
<v Speaker 3>you want to call this game, what do you want

1:26:59.600 --> 1:27:00.000
<v Speaker 3>to call it?

1:27:02.080 --> 1:27:05.400
<v Speaker 2>I kept saying, who's your daddy? Because who's your daddy?

1:27:05.479 --> 1:27:06.040
<v Speaker 3>Game? Yeah?

1:27:06.040 --> 1:27:08.200
<v Speaker 4>We made you our little bitch, all.

1:27:08.160 --> 1:27:13.160
<v Speaker 3>Right, put it out? Yeah, who's your daddy? Game? Yeah?

1:27:13.479 --> 1:27:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Score the game? Is this the greatest game of all time?

1:27:16.240 --> 1:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>Let's score it? Biz stakes zero to ten decimals?

1:27:20.920 --> 1:27:24.719
<v Speaker 3>Okay? The stakes of this Four Nations Final game?

1:27:25.160 --> 1:27:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would say ten, ten out of ten.

1:27:29.360 --> 1:27:30.040
<v Speaker 4>It was.

1:27:30.880 --> 1:27:33.760
<v Speaker 2>It was the most talked about hockey game since the

1:27:34.400 --> 1:27:37.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty ten Olympics. And I want to say that it

1:27:37.600 --> 1:27:39.280
<v Speaker 2>might have surpassed those numbers.

1:27:39.280 --> 1:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>So ten, you know what, I have to agree, this

1:27:44.080 --> 1:27:45.720
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a high score for me. A nine

1:27:45.760 --> 1:27:50.080
<v Speaker 1>to two, A nine point two, I mean, we haven't.

1:27:50.280 --> 1:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>This is the most excited I've been about hockey in

1:27:54.080 --> 1:27:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a long time since watching Might we had.

1:27:56.600 --> 1:27:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Trump was talking shit, calling us the fifty first state.

1:27:59.320 --> 1:28:01.280
<v Speaker 2>This meant every thing were so.

1:28:01.320 --> 1:28:04.559
<v Speaker 5>Much geopolitical nature. Always raise that we did the miracle

1:28:04.600 --> 1:28:06.800
<v Speaker 5>on ice game with Jim Craig, and that's always gets

1:28:06.840 --> 1:28:07.880
<v Speaker 5>into that high ten.

1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:12.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess what was going on geopolitically then war? Okay,

1:28:12.200 --> 1:28:14.120
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I'm not a history but and I wasn't

1:28:14.120 --> 1:28:16.120
<v Speaker 2>born yet, so my apology.

1:28:15.920 --> 1:28:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Back at home had an eight point six. I had

1:28:17.320 --> 1:28:19.439
<v Speaker 5>eight point four. It's still it's international best and best.

1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:21.800
<v Speaker 5>It's still a brand new tournament, right, It's still not

1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:23.840
<v Speaker 5>a gold medal. I think East been was pumping its

1:28:23.840 --> 1:28:25.840
<v Speaker 5>tires a little too much at the end, but it

1:28:25.880 --> 1:28:27.840
<v Speaker 5>was still awesome, and it was so much better than

1:28:27.840 --> 1:28:29.519
<v Speaker 5>the All Star Game would have been.

1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:32.160
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's what I think that That's what a lot

1:28:32.200 --> 1:28:34.599
<v Speaker 2>of people had a hard time grasping is it was like, oh,

1:28:34.640 --> 1:28:38.080
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of this like makeshift fluff event to like

1:28:38.120 --> 1:28:40.800
<v Speaker 2>as a precursor to the Olympics. And also I think

1:28:40.800 --> 1:28:43.519
<v Speaker 2>people are sick of the All Star Game. But it

1:28:43.560 --> 1:28:45.559
<v Speaker 2>wasn't so much what it was coming in, it's what

1:28:45.600 --> 1:28:46.559
<v Speaker 2>it evolved became.

1:28:46.720 --> 1:28:49.320
<v Speaker 5>Yere texting me on Saturday like, oh my god, people

1:28:49.320 --> 1:28:50.719
<v Speaker 5>who don't give me about hockey.

1:28:50.800 --> 1:28:51.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was fun.

1:28:51.920 --> 1:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>I text like all seven of my Canadian friends I had,

1:28:55.160 --> 1:28:57.960
<v Speaker 3>like coming friend he was like worried.

1:28:58.000 --> 1:28:58.640
<v Speaker 4>He's like, I don't know.

1:28:58.680 --> 1:29:01.080
<v Speaker 5>I hope this going turns out. Okay, it's gonna be riose.

1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:01.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

1:29:01.520 --> 1:29:01.680
<v Speaker 2>Man.

1:29:01.920 --> 1:29:05.320
<v Speaker 3>By the way, I'm technically half Canadian. Oh are you?

1:29:05.600 --> 1:29:06.920
<v Speaker 4>My mother was born in Chicago.

1:29:07.040 --> 1:29:09.479
<v Speaker 3>My mom was My mom was born in Kitchener, Ontario.

1:29:09.600 --> 1:29:13.280
<v Speaker 4>No ship their Kitchener Rangers Kitchener. Yeah. Wow.

1:29:13.920 --> 1:29:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So star power zero to ten decimals, Okay, the star

1:29:17.479 --> 1:29:19.240
<v Speaker 1>there's fucking stars everywhere in this building.

1:29:20.600 --> 1:29:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I mean I would say uh, I would

1:29:24.120 --> 1:29:28.040
<v Speaker 2>say uh a nine point five simply because that you know,

1:29:28.120 --> 1:29:31.360
<v Speaker 2>McAvoy was all line up. Quinn Hughes from my the

1:29:31.400 --> 1:29:34.200
<v Speaker 2>biggest blessing for hockey would be everybody healthy at the.

1:29:34.120 --> 1:29:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Olympilding Captain honorary captain, honorary captain for USA.

1:29:40.080 --> 1:29:43.320
<v Speaker 2>That's where my buddy said, Hey, like AROZIONI did so

1:29:43.439 --> 1:29:45.720
<v Speaker 2>much for USA hockey, but you got him against the

1:29:45.760 --> 1:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>great one there for Canada. The game was over. We

1:29:48.280 --> 1:29:49.840
<v Speaker 2>knew we had that one in the bag the minute

1:29:49.840 --> 1:29:50.840
<v Speaker 2>that Wayne walked out.

1:29:51.280 --> 1:29:55.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm gonna go with a nine. It's gonna be high.

1:29:55.240 --> 1:29:56.960
<v Speaker 5>At eight point nine. I had a nine point seven,

1:29:57.080 --> 1:30:00.240
<v Speaker 5>just as an homage to Connor McDavid.

1:30:00.400 --> 1:30:02.320
<v Speaker 3>A nine point that's the highest score.

1:30:02.120 --> 1:30:04.320
<v Speaker 5>Using the best. This is best on best, all right,

1:30:04.320 --> 1:30:04.680
<v Speaker 5>I love it.

1:30:04.720 --> 1:30:05.080
<v Speaker 3>I love that.

1:30:05.120 --> 1:30:06.639
<v Speaker 5>The only reason it wasn't a perfect ten is if

1:30:06.680 --> 1:30:09.200
<v Speaker 5>because you know International Russia is not in the mix.

1:30:10.000 --> 1:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Ooh gameplay zero to ten decim was okay, the gameplay

1:30:13.880 --> 1:30:14.519
<v Speaker 1>you gotta score.

1:30:14.880 --> 1:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>So the the game that there was three fights, it

1:30:18.040 --> 1:30:20.919
<v Speaker 2>kind of lulled off. But the championship game was incredible.

1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's go with I'll go with a nine to five

1:30:23.360 --> 1:30:26.160
<v Speaker 2>to two, four to three always more scoring is a

1:30:26.160 --> 1:30:29.080
<v Speaker 2>little bit better, but a couple of league changes and

1:30:29.120 --> 1:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>over time can't beat it.

1:30:30.479 --> 1:30:33.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm American. I like to see high scoring. That's why

1:30:33.880 --> 1:30:36.040
<v Speaker 1>we do that in all of our sports. Our basketball

1:30:36.120 --> 1:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>is one fifty to one fifty two. Now our football

1:30:39.320 --> 1:30:41.720
<v Speaker 1>is sixty to sixty one. I want my hockey to

1:30:41.760 --> 1:30:44.720
<v Speaker 1>be at least twelve ten, so I'm gonna go with

1:30:44.760 --> 1:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>the eight.

1:30:46.000 --> 1:30:48.960
<v Speaker 5>I want my hockey to be lacrosse jacket a nine

1:30:49.000 --> 1:30:50.280
<v Speaker 5>point one out of eight point eight.

1:30:51.000 --> 1:30:53.719
<v Speaker 3>The name of the game the Who's Your Daddy?

1:30:53.840 --> 1:30:56.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I actually got a better name game. Let's say it,

1:30:56.040 --> 1:30:58.800
<v Speaker 2>Who's your Daddy? Donald?

1:30:59.360 --> 1:30:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Donald?

1:31:01.200 --> 1:31:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Who's gonna get I'm gonna get deported, But I think

1:31:04.360 --> 1:31:05.160
<v Speaker 2>it's a hell of a name.

1:31:06.439 --> 1:31:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Just for anyone out there. Ice, do not come to Brentwood.

1:31:09.800 --> 1:31:11.200
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure they we're gonna be here anyway.

1:31:11.320 --> 1:31:14.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the name of the game. We got to score

1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:15.000
<v Speaker 3>the name well.

1:31:15.479 --> 1:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Through the Donald. I think I'm being petty as ship. Hey,

1:31:18.320 --> 1:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>he could talk his ship, we talk our ship. It's

1:31:20.600 --> 1:31:22.320
<v Speaker 2>just sports. But the name is ten out of ten.

1:31:22.400 --> 1:31:27.120
<v Speaker 2>Suck at Donald. The eleventh Province should.

1:31:26.880 --> 1:31:28.519
<v Speaker 5>Give it eleven for being the eleventh front.

1:31:29.560 --> 1:31:33.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna give it. It's pretty funny. It's pretty funny.

1:31:34.240 --> 1:31:36.120
<v Speaker 4>You're gonna be living in Kitchener pretty soon. If you

1:31:36.120 --> 1:31:36.679
<v Speaker 4>give it a ten.

1:31:36.840 --> 1:31:38.559
<v Speaker 3>No, I'm not. I'm gonna give it a ten. Won't

1:31:38.600 --> 1:31:42.760
<v Speaker 3>give it a ten because I'm American, so I'll give

1:31:42.800 --> 1:31:48.280
<v Speaker 3>it a seven point eight. I'll take it Jack.

1:31:48.320 --> 1:31:50.120
<v Speaker 5>At some point one, I had an eight point seven.

1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:52.519
<v Speaker 3>What is what is our score?

1:31:55.760 --> 1:31:59.040
<v Speaker 5>Final score? Eight point eight nine? Jesus gonna be very high.

1:31:59.280 --> 1:32:01.479
<v Speaker 5>Eight point eight nine. He just puts it in seventh,

1:32:02.800 --> 1:32:05.960
<v Speaker 5>just ahead of the two thousand and four ALCS game

1:32:05.960 --> 1:32:08.839
<v Speaker 5>four Yankees versus Red Sox, and just behind the snowball

1:32:08.840 --> 1:32:09.640
<v Speaker 5>game two thousand and one.

1:32:10.479 --> 1:32:13.879
<v Speaker 3>Fucking love, let's go out of applause.

1:32:14.360 --> 1:32:17.799
<v Speaker 5>Miracle on Ice is still fourth, though, I mean, that's crazy.

1:32:17.840 --> 1:32:19.320
<v Speaker 5>No one's perfect.

1:32:20.120 --> 1:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>We we kind of bag that we don't have a

1:32:22.360 --> 1:32:25.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of hockey in this but our top ten has

1:32:25.400 --> 1:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>two hockey games.

1:32:26.200 --> 1:32:28.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's diversity if I've ever seen it. Yeah, but

1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:31.840
<v Speaker 5>look it over here. Fifteen, uh fifty eighth overall. Two

1:32:31.840 --> 1:32:34.800
<v Speaker 5>thousand eleven Stanley Cup Final game seven Bruins versus Canucks.

1:32:35.200 --> 1:32:38.000
<v Speaker 5>Not great between two regular season NFL games.

1:32:39.360 --> 1:32:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's pretty bad.

1:32:40.320 --> 1:32:43.240
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we can fix that. That was a bad game though, Yeah,

1:32:43.800 --> 1:32:44.759
<v Speaker 5>seven Stanley Cup Finals.

1:32:45.120 --> 1:32:47.960
<v Speaker 3>That's a man of integrity, Yeah, man of integrity. He

1:32:48.000 --> 1:32:50.559
<v Speaker 3>knew the game was bad, and he says it should

1:32:50.560 --> 1:32:52.719
<v Speaker 3>belong there started a riot. They started a riot.

1:32:52.840 --> 1:32:55.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's right. God, they burnt the whole fucking

1:32:55.439 --> 1:32:56.000
<v Speaker 2>city down.

1:32:56.360 --> 1:32:58.400
<v Speaker 3>Biz, we miss anything about this game.

1:32:59.000 --> 1:33:01.519
<v Speaker 1>I mean we covered a recovered it all. It was

1:33:01.560 --> 1:33:03.479
<v Speaker 1>a fun game to cover. Yeah, it was, and it

1:33:03.520 --> 1:33:06.160
<v Speaker 1>was fresh in my memory. I feel like the buzz

1:33:06.240 --> 1:33:07.080
<v Speaker 1>is still in the air.

1:33:07.240 --> 1:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what I told Pasha. I'm glad we were coming

1:33:09.320 --> 1:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>over where this just ended. So everything was top of mind.

1:33:12.240 --> 1:33:14.519
<v Speaker 1>And I always get a little nervous with the hockey

1:33:14.520 --> 1:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>guys because I don't know hockey. Like I know hockey,

1:33:17.439 --> 1:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know, like when you guys are dropping

1:33:19.320 --> 1:33:20.360
<v Speaker 1>top cheese and.

1:33:21.720 --> 1:33:22.519
<v Speaker 3>I need some help.

1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:24.439
<v Speaker 4>I'll be your hockey correspondent from now on.

1:33:24.560 --> 1:33:26.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, I definitely I'm gonna hit you up all

1:33:26.880 --> 1:33:28.080
<v Speaker 3>the time, now, you know.

1:33:29.200 --> 1:33:31.559
<v Speaker 1>I was introduced to hockey when I went to Boston,

1:33:31.800 --> 1:33:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Like I went to a Sharks game in an expansion

1:33:34.840 --> 1:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>game in nineteen ninety four, oh way, And when they

1:33:38.240 --> 1:33:40.720
<v Speaker 1>first came they were playing at the Cow Palace in

1:33:40.760 --> 1:33:42.960
<v Speaker 1>the Bay Area. They didn't have the stadium in San

1:33:43.000 --> 1:33:45.320
<v Speaker 1>Jose yet, and me and my dad and my brother

1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:48.160
<v Speaker 1>drove up there looking for the game.

1:33:48.200 --> 1:33:48.559
<v Speaker 3>We didn't.

1:33:48.640 --> 1:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>We out lost and we got there after the second

1:33:52.400 --> 1:33:54.679
<v Speaker 1>period and we're like, cool, we get the second half

1:33:55.760 --> 1:33:58.439
<v Speaker 1>football people we thought it would be. Yeah, we got

1:33:58.520 --> 1:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>one period of play that That was the introduction to

1:34:01.160 --> 1:34:02.800
<v Speaker 1>my hockey in my life.

1:34:02.800 --> 1:34:04.720
<v Speaker 3>And then I moved to Boston and went to.

1:34:04.640 --> 1:34:07.479
<v Speaker 2>A few So, now where does your loyalty lie with

1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:12.960
<v Speaker 2>the I'm boys with a lot of those guys, Sean Thornton,

1:34:13.120 --> 1:34:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Melon Lucic.

1:34:14.600 --> 1:34:16.880
<v Speaker 3>I just saw last night too. He was the man.

1:34:17.000 --> 1:34:17.679
<v Speaker 3>He's the man.

1:34:18.000 --> 1:34:20.519
<v Speaker 1>We used to hang out a bunch. I have a

1:34:20.520 --> 1:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of relationships there. You know, Boston is a pretty

1:34:23.760 --> 1:34:28.320
<v Speaker 1>cool pro city town. They're all very you know, intertwined

1:34:28.320 --> 1:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and cross pollinating.

1:34:29.479 --> 1:34:31.080
<v Speaker 3>With the love of the sports.

1:34:31.200 --> 1:34:32.840
<v Speaker 4>So I love going back there.

1:34:33.000 --> 1:34:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Like I just feel like it's a great It's a

1:34:34.520 --> 1:34:36.440
<v Speaker 2>big city, but it feels like a community.

1:34:36.600 --> 1:34:41.360
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a small big city that's exactly too overwhelming. No,

1:34:41.479 --> 1:34:45.000
<v Speaker 1>it isn't everyone out there go check out spitting chick Lits.

1:34:45.280 --> 1:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>You gotta check out biz on NHL on TNT, and

1:34:48.920 --> 1:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get some pink Whitney.

1:34:50.760 --> 1:34:51.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:34:51.120 --> 1:34:53.960
<v Speaker 2>So we we had New Amsterdam Vodka as a sponsor

1:34:54.000 --> 1:34:55.840
<v Speaker 2>for the pod and they said, Hey, explain how you

1:34:55.920 --> 1:34:58.920
<v Speaker 2>like to drink your your vodka. And then Ryan Whitney,

1:34:59.000 --> 1:35:02.599
<v Speaker 2>my co host, who's hilarious guy, he's a genius, and

1:35:02.680 --> 1:35:06.800
<v Speaker 2>he talked about mixing Newman's own pink lemonade and his vodka,

1:35:07.320 --> 1:35:10.080
<v Speaker 2>and he's I call it the Pink Whitney, And all

1:35:10.120 --> 1:35:12.679
<v Speaker 2>of a sudden, all our fans started hashtagging it, sending

1:35:12.720 --> 1:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>us pictures of it, and we all as a group barstool,

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<v Speaker 2>ended up selling eight hundred and seven thousand cases in

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<v Speaker 2>the first year of existence.

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<v Speaker 3>Fucking the Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>growing Spirit of all time with his Teamana like, Na,

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<v Speaker 2>hit a million cases. We're the quickest growing Spirit of

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<v Speaker 2>all time. Just randomly, all these sorority girls just love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's a great vodka drink that's mixed obviously with

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<v Speaker 2>pink lemonade flavored vodka, and uh yeah, it's yeah, it's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Go get you a pink Whitney right now, spitting chick litsiz.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for coming on.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro Hey, And honestly, it was an honor coming like

1:35:59.840 --> 1:36:02.519
<v Speaker 2>the minute, but the minute I heard that you were

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<v Speaker 2>invite me over, I said, let's make it work. Man,

1:36:04.840 --> 1:36:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm so uh, I'm so grateful and and congratulations and

1:36:08.120 --> 1:36:10.440
<v Speaker 2>all your success as an athlete and what you've transitioned

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<v Speaker 2>it into.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't wait to finally get to hang out with

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<v Speaker 3>you now and now we know each other.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and also this awesome team that you have going

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<v Speaker 2>so good luck with your pod and thanks for having me.

1:36:19.400 --> 1:36:21.639
<v Speaker 3>I appreciate it. Man, I'm gonna come on your soon.

1:36:21.800 --> 1:36:25.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh we already had dronks and then maybe eventually Brady

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<v Speaker 2>get all the boys.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome, let's go. We'll be right back after this

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<v Speaker 3>quick break.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, Hockey guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Hockey guys guys are all cool, business cool. Yeah, you

1:36:42.120 --> 1:36:46.760
<v Speaker 1>could just tell blue collar, fun to be around, so

1:36:46.880 --> 1:36:50.920
<v Speaker 1>personal too, like just met everyone like, yeah, that's how

1:36:51.000 --> 1:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>hockey guys are.

1:36:52.160 --> 1:36:54.400
<v Speaker 3>The Zamboni guy they oh you know GM on the

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<v Speaker 3>zamboni fucking the skate people all they're just they're just

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<v Speaker 3>the boys, you know, they're the good. They're just the boys.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why that's that's one of the that's

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<v Speaker 3>like a hockey term. The boy.

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<v Speaker 4>What's the boys?

1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:10.120
<v Speaker 3>The boys?

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<v Speaker 5>The boys?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the boys, the boys?

1:37:12.280 --> 1:37:14.960
<v Speaker 5>What's the boys doing? Also same reading level as you.

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<v Speaker 3>Did?

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<v Speaker 5>Nice?

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<v Speaker 4>I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. That's why I liked him so much. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Oh we got a little story time. Oh the Mountain

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<v Speaker 3>blues from uh what when we went.

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<v Speaker 5>To Last night? We went to l A Skate Baby

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<v Speaker 5>Skate for l A Straw Skate for l A Strong.

1:37:51.400 --> 1:37:54.400
<v Speaker 5>It's a big celebrity skating event for the LA Fires.

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<v Speaker 5>Took place at Crypto dot Com Center Arena, Staples Staples, No,

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<v Speaker 5>it's Crypto Crypto. It was fun.

1:38:02.040 --> 1:38:02.479
<v Speaker 3>It was fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Four teams you brought, Lily, we went. The amount of

1:38:05.479 --> 1:38:07.920
<v Speaker 5>legends that we met that you had no idea who

1:38:07.920 --> 1:38:10.200
<v Speaker 5>they were. It was awesome. I was I was like

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<v Speaker 5>a pig and shit down there. Explain to your experience.

1:38:13.160 --> 1:38:14.040
<v Speaker 5>How did you have a good time?

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<v Speaker 3>I had a great time.

1:38:15.920 --> 1:38:20.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean this was like, this was like my first

1:38:21.280 --> 1:38:27.519
<v Speaker 1>maybe kind of charitable event in La as someone who's

1:38:27.600 --> 1:38:33.200
<v Speaker 1>part of this community now and now this fire was

1:38:33.200 --> 1:38:35.800
<v Speaker 1>like my first go around at this whole thing. And

1:38:35.880 --> 1:38:39.320
<v Speaker 1>we just moved here full time, you know, two years ago,

1:38:39.400 --> 1:38:42.640
<v Speaker 1>and we were really this was devastating. That was devastating

1:38:42.680 --> 1:38:46.440
<v Speaker 1>time like that fire was crazy. It felt you felt helpless,

1:38:46.920 --> 1:38:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and I'll keep reiterating, I was so so proud of

1:38:55.240 --> 1:39:00.400
<v Speaker 1>the people here how they've been able to respond. Like

1:39:00.439 --> 1:39:02.840
<v Speaker 1>I've been watching from kind of like an outsider watching

1:39:02.880 --> 1:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>in who's been in these kind of situations. I was

1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:08.320
<v Speaker 1>in Boston for the bombing. I saw a community come

1:39:08.360 --> 1:39:13.639
<v Speaker 1>together and fucking battle strength strong. You know, we're gonna

1:39:13.760 --> 1:39:16.639
<v Speaker 1>get better from this thing. I saw that in Boston

1:39:16.680 --> 1:39:18.760
<v Speaker 1>with that, and I'm seeing the same thing here in

1:39:18.880 --> 1:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>La I've seen so many people give their time, you know.

1:39:23.320 --> 1:39:26.720
<v Speaker 1>The day, like three days after that fire, you know,

1:39:26.760 --> 1:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>I was getting a bunch of I was going around

1:39:30.120 --> 1:39:32.200
<v Speaker 1>checking it out on my little e bike and stuff.

1:39:32.920 --> 1:39:35.519
<v Speaker 1>And to see the line of cars on San Vicente

1:39:35.560 --> 1:39:38.799
<v Speaker 1>of people in the community who just lost their homes.

1:39:38.840 --> 1:39:44.640
<v Speaker 1>People giving food, clothes to these people, helping out the firefighters,

1:39:44.720 --> 1:39:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the first responders, you know, the firefighters that are going

1:39:48.320 --> 1:39:50.679
<v Speaker 1>in this thing looking like hell. It looked like held

1:39:50.680 --> 1:39:54.320
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of those spots to the National Guard

1:39:54.680 --> 1:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and the cops that were keeping things in order. There

1:39:57.760 --> 1:40:01.639
<v Speaker 1>was fucking like full looting going on because people were

1:40:01.640 --> 1:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>gone so like. It was a fucking crazy time in La.

1:40:06.680 --> 1:40:09.759
<v Speaker 1>And to go to that skate for La Strong event

1:40:09.880 --> 1:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>to raise money for this by someone who's in this

1:40:13.280 --> 1:40:15.640
<v Speaker 1>community now, it was really cool and I got to

1:40:15.640 --> 1:40:19.200
<v Speaker 1>bring Lily. You know, they're raising a lot of money

1:40:19.200 --> 1:40:23.599
<v Speaker 1>for people that lost their homes, lost a lot like everything,

1:40:24.040 --> 1:40:24.240
<v Speaker 1>you know.

1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:27.120
<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't just rich people, you know, it was

1:40:27.240 --> 1:40:30.200
<v Speaker 3>people of all responders, you know what I mean. That's

1:40:30.200 --> 1:40:32.720
<v Speaker 3>what a lot of these narratives are when you see

1:40:32.760 --> 1:40:33.839
<v Speaker 3>it across the country.

1:40:33.840 --> 1:40:36.439
<v Speaker 1>Oh La, just these movie stars. Nah, there's like some

1:40:36.479 --> 1:40:38.760
<v Speaker 1>regular ass people lost their homes. There's a lot of

1:40:38.760 --> 1:40:42.479
<v Speaker 1>homes lost. And this was a cool event that you know,

1:40:42.600 --> 1:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>the Kings put on at the Crypto Currency Center in

1:40:49.160 --> 1:40:53.040
<v Speaker 1>a short amount of time that had a really cool turnout.

1:40:53.360 --> 1:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>Got to see Will Ferrell.

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<v Speaker 5>With Will Farrell. Lily was so fun with she was

1:41:00.760 --> 1:41:03.040
<v Speaker 5>like in awe, you know, you know in Elf when

1:41:03.080 --> 1:41:05.240
<v Speaker 5>you're like when he's when he points the Santa Santa,

1:41:05.320 --> 1:41:07.360
<v Speaker 5>I know him. I was like, Lily, like, now you

1:41:07.400 --> 1:41:09.519
<v Speaker 5>can point that to Elf when you watch him Elf,

1:41:09.560 --> 1:41:10.960
<v Speaker 5>I know him exactly.

1:41:11.680 --> 1:41:13.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she will was awesome.

1:41:14.040 --> 1:41:17.719
<v Speaker 1>We we had a dinner before once at Wahlberg's house

1:41:17.760 --> 1:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>after the fourteen Super Bowl because he's a Seattle Seahawks fan.

1:41:21.200 --> 1:41:25.200
<v Speaker 3>I think I don't know his uh settle.

1:41:25.600 --> 1:41:29.080
<v Speaker 1>It was a big USC guy's I think he's a

1:41:29.120 --> 1:41:32.960
<v Speaker 1>Seattle Seahawks fan. But like we've we've met before and

1:41:33.040 --> 1:41:35.080
<v Speaker 1>it was cool to kind of I haven't seen him in.

1:41:35.040 --> 1:41:35.599
<v Speaker 4>A long time.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks great. Yeah, and then unk Uncle Snoop Lily the

1:41:42.479 --> 1:41:45.599
<v Speaker 3>whole ride there because I told her that Snoop might

1:41:45.640 --> 1:41:47.600
<v Speaker 3>be there, and I tell her that I, you know,

1:41:47.640 --> 1:41:51.559
<v Speaker 3>I got to get dad points. And Snoop made me

1:41:51.680 --> 1:41:55.280
<v Speaker 3>look like the coolest dad ever. You know?

1:41:55.840 --> 1:41:56.280
<v Speaker 4>Was he is?

1:41:56.280 --> 1:41:59.840
<v Speaker 5>He He's friends with Pete Carroll from USC.

1:42:00.160 --> 1:42:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Pete car So there was something. But Uncle Snoop Lily,

1:42:05.120 --> 1:42:08.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, we were listening to Snoop Clean Mix, Snoop

1:42:08.240 --> 1:42:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Clean Mix, Clean Mix, uh before the game on the

1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:18.479
<v Speaker 3>way there, because that's her favorite rapper him and Eminem nice. Yeah,

1:42:18.760 --> 1:42:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where. I like where. I don't even

1:42:20.720 --> 1:42:22.559
<v Speaker 3>put this on in front of her. She like it's

1:42:22.600 --> 1:42:27.120
<v Speaker 3>when she's it's the kids. But she's at that age

1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:30.840
<v Speaker 3>where she like knows rappers and so Snoop was just

1:42:30.880 --> 1:42:35.000
<v Speaker 3>so charming to her, like like he is, and and

1:42:35.080 --> 1:42:37.439
<v Speaker 3>freaking asked her if he could have a hug, and

1:42:37.520 --> 1:42:40.799
<v Speaker 3>she hugged him and and said can we have a picture,

1:42:40.840 --> 1:42:45.760
<v Speaker 3>and just he's a He's just a cool dude. And

1:42:45.840 --> 1:42:48.600
<v Speaker 3>it was just a fun It was a fun met Countless.

1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:50.240
<v Speaker 3>Also I got to see.

1:42:50.000 --> 1:42:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Slowly and Aaron. Uh, they're really you know, that's the

1:42:54.200 --> 1:42:57.679
<v Speaker 1>real reason I went. They asked me to come. Aaron

1:42:57.720 --> 1:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Andrews and and her husband Stole and then uh, I

1:43:02.120 --> 1:43:04.679
<v Speaker 1>mean there was a lot of people there. Yeah, Lily

1:43:04.720 --> 1:43:06.799
<v Speaker 1>got the high five through the glass with Bieber.

1:43:06.920 --> 1:43:07.799
<v Speaker 3>She was all happy.

1:43:08.000 --> 1:43:09.759
<v Speaker 5>Well, she got a puck too, She got a puck

1:43:09.840 --> 1:43:11.120
<v Speaker 5>from Derek Armstrong.

1:43:11.640 --> 1:43:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Armstrong shout out, my guy. It was cool seeing the

1:43:15.320 --> 1:43:18.360
<v Speaker 3>old dudes. Yeah, I love seeing because they can still

1:43:18.400 --> 1:43:18.760
<v Speaker 3>move it.

1:43:18.880 --> 1:43:20.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Messia looks still good out there.

1:43:21.240 --> 1:43:23.639
<v Speaker 3>He dude, he looks like how old is he? He's

1:43:23.640 --> 1:43:26.960
<v Speaker 3>got to be sixty. He's not sixty. Might be he

1:43:27.040 --> 1:43:28.880
<v Speaker 3>might be what a freak?

1:43:29.160 --> 1:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like even I was really impressed with some

1:43:31.880 --> 1:43:33.320
<v Speaker 1>of the first sixty.

1:43:33.520 --> 1:43:35.320
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Taylor, Taylor Kitchen. He was great.

1:43:35.439 --> 1:43:36.679
<v Speaker 3>Kitch was really good.

1:43:37.600 --> 1:43:40.479
<v Speaker 5>Stayed home, defenseman. He was good out there, No, Kitch.

1:43:41.040 --> 1:43:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I've been watching him on that American Prime Evil Great

1:43:44.240 --> 1:43:44.840
<v Speaker 3>great show.

1:43:44.960 --> 1:43:47.640
<v Speaker 5>Text Petersburg yet, Yeah, I texted him, Okay, thank you,

1:43:47.800 --> 1:43:48.120
<v Speaker 5>I did.

1:43:48.200 --> 1:43:48.559
<v Speaker 4>I did.

1:43:49.000 --> 1:43:50.960
<v Speaker 3>But it was really cool to see, Like I didn't

1:43:51.000 --> 1:43:52.599
<v Speaker 3>know he was playing in this and I didn't really

1:43:52.640 --> 1:43:55.080
<v Speaker 3>know his name. Yeah, but then I was like, wait

1:43:55.160 --> 1:43:57.439
<v Speaker 3>a minute, is that Prime Evil dude?

1:43:58.360 --> 1:44:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Oh he's way look at you might have been the

1:44:01.920 --> 1:44:04.200
<v Speaker 5>best like actor celebrity athough there was that. There was

1:44:04.800 --> 1:44:06.639
<v Speaker 5>a La Lan guy who I don't really know who.

1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:09.360
<v Speaker 3>There's a little blonde dude. Yeah he had and then

1:44:09.439 --> 1:44:13.599
<v Speaker 3>the social media kid Josh Richard. Josh Yeah pretty good.

1:44:13.640 --> 1:44:15.160
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he was good. He was out there like we

1:44:15.240 --> 1:44:16.879
<v Speaker 5>went to uh, yeah, I saw.

1:44:16.720 --> 1:44:18.759
<v Speaker 3>Him flying around. Is he Canadian or something?

1:44:19.040 --> 1:44:19.600
<v Speaker 5>I think he is?

1:44:19.720 --> 1:44:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, all the that's how you that's how you know

1:44:22.600 --> 1:44:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Kayler Kitchen.

1:44:23.200 --> 1:44:25.839
<v Speaker 5>Is Canadian too. Yeah, you could tell, you could tell about.

1:44:25.720 --> 1:44:26.719
<v Speaker 3>You could just tell.

1:44:28.240 --> 1:44:30.479
<v Speaker 1>If it because we did the family skate before. We

1:44:30.479 --> 1:44:32.400
<v Speaker 1>were skating and Lily was skating.

1:44:33.200 --> 1:44:35.839
<v Speaker 5>That was fun skates. Next time we'll bring our own skates.

1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:36.760
<v Speaker 3>Gotta bring her own.

1:44:36.840 --> 1:44:37.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1:44:37.720 --> 1:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>But how how cool is it to see the like

1:44:39.880 --> 1:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>because there was a lot of pro players in their families.

1:44:42.520 --> 1:44:45.240
<v Speaker 1>You see like all the little young bucks, like their

1:44:45.280 --> 1:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>little eight year olds are flying in crazy ship.

1:44:49.560 --> 1:44:50.800
<v Speaker 3>A girl that could barely walk.

1:44:51.000 --> 1:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, who's the captain Copaitar Copaitar's little daughters. She

1:44:55.240 --> 1:44:59.240
<v Speaker 1>was like, she's like barely walking and then she hops

1:44:59.320 --> 1:45:02.679
<v Speaker 1>up on the skates and she's just fucking flying. She's

1:45:02.680 --> 1:45:05.120
<v Speaker 1>she had to have been two, yeah, maybe three.

1:45:05.240 --> 1:45:05.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:45:05.560 --> 1:45:08.240
<v Speaker 5>The kids were out there too, I mean it was it.

1:45:08.160 --> 1:45:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Was that was just it was really cool to see that.

1:45:12.240 --> 1:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>I like, you just enjoy hockey. It's a it feels

1:45:17.240 --> 1:45:19.479
<v Speaker 1>fun family Now.

1:45:19.800 --> 1:45:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Matt Lioner was out there in the skate. It was

1:45:22.040 --> 1:45:24.639
<v Speaker 5>actually played. Did that get the competitive Jesus going?

1:45:24.960 --> 1:45:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I kind of thought about it. I saw the way

1:45:26.400 --> 1:45:27.960
<v Speaker 3>he was skating. I was like, maybe I could go

1:45:28.000 --> 1:45:29.840
<v Speaker 3>out if if he's out there, I think I could

1:45:29.880 --> 1:45:32.479
<v Speaker 3>go out there next time. I might have to almost

1:45:32.479 --> 1:45:35.920
<v Speaker 3>start training with fucking biz nasty over here and fucking

1:45:36.000 --> 1:45:38.920
<v Speaker 3>I'll be calling Sean Thornton. Milan's right down the street

1:45:38.960 --> 1:45:41.719
<v Speaker 3>in Manhattan Beach. I saw him there. It was great

1:45:41.720 --> 1:45:44.599
<v Speaker 3>to see him. Yeah, his daughter is so damn big.

1:45:44.680 --> 1:45:47.840
<v Speaker 3>It's so crazy because you know, we haven't you see

1:45:47.840 --> 1:45:49.400
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the people from Boston. We haven't seen

1:45:49.439 --> 1:45:52.719
<v Speaker 3>each other in four years, five years, six, you know, seven,

1:45:52.760 --> 1:45:54.840
<v Speaker 3>eight years. And I remember seeing the kids when they're

1:45:55.240 --> 1:45:58.839
<v Speaker 3>peanuts and then all of a sudden, you know they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen,

1:45:58.960 --> 1:46:00.799
<v Speaker 3>twenty fucking crazy.

1:46:00.840 --> 1:46:04.519
<v Speaker 1>That's you know, we still have that Boston connection. Anywhere

1:46:04.560 --> 1:46:06.519
<v Speaker 1>we go, they're all the Boston guys, you know what

1:46:06.560 --> 1:46:06.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

1:46:07.080 --> 1:46:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that.

1:46:09.000 --> 1:46:11.960
<v Speaker 5>And then we talked to Kevin bix too, who for

1:46:12.040 --> 1:46:14.479
<v Speaker 5>you deep cut games with names heads when he heads

1:46:14.479 --> 1:46:16.360
<v Speaker 5>an on the on the show, and he told the

1:46:16.400 --> 1:46:19.240
<v Speaker 5>story about how he saw the Canucks lifting the cup

1:46:19.360 --> 1:46:21.559
<v Speaker 5>like as practice. Yeah, and the exit went on like

1:46:21.680 --> 1:46:24.439
<v Speaker 5>national Canadian televisions like that's bullshit. He was talking to

1:46:24.439 --> 1:46:25.200
<v Speaker 5>you about that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>He was cool. Yeah, I didn't really know. See I

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<v Speaker 3>felt bad. I don't know the hockey guys that will always.

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<v Speaker 5>We're also with Ron McLean and Ron McLean is like

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<v Speaker 5>an absolute fucking legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there was just and they're always just really

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<v Speaker 1>cool guys. Yeah, that are just like, you know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like here, they're they're they're all here with the demeanor,

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<v Speaker 1>demeanor and like make you feel comfortable vibe by busting

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<v Speaker 1>your balls or something that you know, they're just hockey dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>got it.

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<v Speaker 5>Ron McLean, who we talked about the broadcasting legend, same

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<v Speaker 5>exact age as Mark Messier. They're both sixty four. Was

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<v Speaker 5>Beaber's good too, skate and you met like Luke Roboti,

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<v Speaker 5>He's a legend. Martin McSorley.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Mc sorely took a picture with the cup.

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<v Speaker 3>Took a picture of the cup of Lil. Been with

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<v Speaker 3>the cup before, Yeah, first time with Lil.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, she didn't touch it, just in case.

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<v Speaker 3>He did not touch it. Did not touch that cup.

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<v Speaker 3>We don't we respect, we don't make them, but we

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<v Speaker 3>enforce them.

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<v Speaker 5>That was awesome. Thanks to the La Kings for doing

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<v Speaker 5>that for the community.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was awesome. I hopefully they got a great turnout.

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<v Speaker 3>It was awesome seeing all the cops, the firefighters. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>shout out to the Mullins. They won, They won. They

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<v Speaker 3>were fucking good too. He's a little just they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>two SOUTHI Southie boys and they're like high ups in

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<v Speaker 3>the fire department out here and they're just fucking wrecking

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<v Speaker 3>shop on the ice.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fucking awesome. Yeah, it was cool. Like there's

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<v Speaker 1>a good ask. I think there was a cop goalie

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<v Speaker 1>that was really good. Was he the red goalie? Who

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<v Speaker 1>was the red goalie?

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<v Speaker 4>Red?

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think I'll let up a goal the whole team.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know who that was, but he was money. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw one. I think it was a cop. He

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<v Speaker 1>had a fool food man chew. He looks so cool

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the one.

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<v Speaker 5>Those of like the weird mustache people are often firefighters

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<v Speaker 5>because that's the only ficial here they can have for

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<v Speaker 5>their masks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>My only regret from this evening was we didn't get

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<v Speaker 5>to see our games with names. Friend of the show, Danvidvito.

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<v Speaker 3>I know he didn't get to see Vince Vaughan. Love

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<v Speaker 3>Vince Vaughan.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, when you play next time, he'll be in there.

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<v Speaker 3>He's funny with sport talk.

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<v Speaker 5>He'd be great.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he would be an unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>Guest just on watching him in the breakup talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the little digital people in the Madden game when he's

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<v Speaker 1>beating the ship out of some twelve year old while

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<v Speaker 1>his girls getting mad, Jennifer getting all mad at him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's over here talking ship. He's like prime shit talker

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<v Speaker 3>to this little twelve year old kid. He's beating the

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<v Speaker 3>ship out of Matt and I love.

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<v Speaker 5>He's the best.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys, what a game that was. I'm like hockeyed up.

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<v Speaker 3>I want more hockey.

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<v Speaker 5>I connected with the King's PR guy. He might he

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<v Speaker 5>might get us some kings.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, but I'm just hockeyed up. Man.

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<v Speaker 5>Also, Bizz after the show said he'd hook us up

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<v Speaker 5>with some people. We need to follow up on that.

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<v Speaker 5>You get his number, Well, we got it.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll connect. Yeah, I didn't get his number.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll got it, we'll connect. Yeah, we got to take

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<v Speaker 5>him up on.

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<v Speaker 3>That's cool. It's great to finally meet him.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Stud. Well that's been another episode of games would name.

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