1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,640 Speaker 1: Are you watching film of fighting guys like guys that 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: you potentially fight, Like I know this guy, he's gonna 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: pull my jersey, probably give me a right hook or something. 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: So fortunately enough for me at the time where I 5 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: started doing it, like YouTube was a thing and I 6 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: could study that way where the olden days they had 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: to find like the VHS tapes. And also fortunately for me, 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: when I was in the NHL, I wasn't having to 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: scrap the old fighters of the past where they would 10 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: grab on and they would just go punch in the 11 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: face match where there was no defense none. 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 3: It was I watch it every time, like these guys 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 3: take two or three off the face and just keep going. 14 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: And I was more of a defensive fighter where you 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: look back and I'm just so grateful if I was 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 2: playing in the seventies, like my nose would be on 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 2: the other side of my head, ye, and I probably 18 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: would be like eating through a two at this point. 19 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 3: Welcome to Games with Names. 20 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I'm Julian Edelman, They're Jack and Kyler, and we are 21 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. 22 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: And on today's episode, we're covering the Fresh four Nations 23 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: final USA versus Canada with former NHL winger, host of 24 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: Spitting chick Lits and the man they call biz Nasty, 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: Paul Bizanette, and we get into talking this Canada America rivalry. 26 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: When you guys came into our building and you punched 27 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: us in the face and then won that game, we 28 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 2: needed a response. This isn't over. This is just the beginning. 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 3: The craft of fighting in hockey. 30 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: I would go on the ice, top him on the 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 2: shin pads and say, hey, let's go mother. I'm trying 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: to provide a spark to our team, like let's get 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: this crowd into it and let's get going. 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: And what it's like to play with Sydney Crosby, one 35 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: of the. 36 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 2: Goats, playing with a guy who was obsessed with the 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 2: game and if the level wasn't at the level he 38 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: would be barking. 39 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: And we're talking about our night at skate for La 40 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: Strong in the chill Zone by Coors Light. You gotta 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: stick around to the very end. Let's Go Games with 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: Names is a production of iHeartRadio. 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: February twenty first, twenty twenty five td GTTEN, Boston, Massachusetts. 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 3: The tournament is new, but the rivalry is as old 45 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: as it gets the best of America versus the best 46 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: of Canada. 47 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: This is the Four Nations Final. 48 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: Today, we have a very special guest and we are 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: looking at probably one of the most crazy. It's the 50 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: craziest popular All Star event I've ever witnessed. We're gonna 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: talk about the Four Nations face off championship game between 52 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 1: Canada and the US with the one and only Paul 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: Bizinette in one sentence, why did you pick this game? 54 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: Well, I kind of want to pick both, not only 55 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: the championship game, but the round robin game that had 56 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: three fights in the first nine seconds, so we can 57 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: kind of go all over the board. But what an 58 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: amazing time for hockey right now. It's just on an 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 2: absolute heater, not only the Four Nations, but now all 60 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 2: of a sudden, you go back to regular season and 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: Ovechin gets a hat trick in his second game back 62 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: after the break, where he's thirteen goals away from breaking 63 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 2: Wayne Gretzky's goal record. 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: Who would have ever fucking thought. 65 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: So, I'm not a hockey guy and I'd never even 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 3: thought that would happen. 67 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go. 68 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 2: It's That's why I just feel like there's so many 69 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: casual sports fans right now that have become addicted to 70 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: hockey just based on, you know, the energy that guys 71 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 2: are putting into it, you know how they're so relatable, 72 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: and of course just the action. It's eighty two games, 73 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: but guys show up much like football guys. It's like 74 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: they put on the gear and they're ready to go. 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: And regardless of it being a quote unquote all star 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: format at the Four Nations, these guys were scrapping for 77 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 2: each other's countries. 78 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: Was this the greatest game of all time? So? 79 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 2: I would say that this championship game will go down 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: at least as one of my favorites. As far as 81 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: a rating standpoint, it was the most viewed non Olympic 82 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 2: game in hockey's history. So for what it did for 83 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: the game and the way that it just kind of 84 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: reached out for our sport, I would probably put it 85 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: as my number one. At this point. That might be 86 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 2: recency bias. A lot of people might be shaking their head, 87 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: but I can't, off the top of my head think 88 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: of a more anticipated game in my lifetime. 89 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 3: As a casual puckhead. I couldn't agree with you. 90 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: More cultural impact of this specific game I mean, we're 91 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: not even going to get to see how big it's 92 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: going to create because we're so fucking fresh off of it. 93 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: But like that put the All Star weekend basketball, it like. 94 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: Slapped that down, Like it was like the step son, 95 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: the redheaded step son. And it also it made me, 96 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: as a football player, be disappointed in our All Star 97 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 3: Game and our Pro Bowl shit, whatever our activities. And 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: it has to do with how the players came out 99 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 3: and fucking showed up. Man, It's one thing I've always 100 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 3: admired about the hockey boys. Yeah, like they're just they're 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: fucking a bunch a group of dudes that like to 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: work hard, drink beer, fuck with each other bus balls, 103 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 3: hate each other in between the ice, but then be 104 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 3: able to enjoy a pine after. Man, it's fucking this 105 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: was fucking awesome. 106 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: Hockey culture is a very special place, and like even 107 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: the reason I'm in town is because I played with 108 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: the La Kings organization. They had a ten year anniversary 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 2: for our Calder Cup winning the Miners. But it just 110 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: so happens that they threw this this charity event in 111 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 2: the last four weeks they put it together and it 112 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 2: was for all the victims of the fires. Yeah, people 113 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: who displaced from their homes obviously the first responders in 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: la FD, so they were able to do this. So 115 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: just the hockey community coming together along with celebrities. It's 116 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: just an awesome culture and it's continuing to thrive, and 117 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 2: it just so happens it was on NBA All Star weekend, 118 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: So I just feel like all the world's collided where 119 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: everybody wanted to shit on the NBA and maybe some 120 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: of their stars attitude towards showing up for the full 121 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 2: eighty two game season, and then the way that hockey 122 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: really treated this four nation's face off. So it was 123 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: an incredible, credible event. And as I were, you dialed 124 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: in the whole time, like, did you watch the full 125 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: sixty minutes of the final? 126 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 3: I watched. 127 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 1: I watched the first two goals and I was sidetracked, 128 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: and then I got back into overtime and I saw 129 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: fucking mcjesus. 130 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: I mean, he wouldn't even do anything all game. And 131 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 3: I don't know it that well. 132 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 4: I'm what were you sidetracked with? 133 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: I was? I don't know. I think it was like 134 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: eating a brito or I. 135 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: Feel like you have add like terrible I thinks I 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 5: think you were sending memes during the third period. 137 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: I was maybe setting memes about the game to my 138 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 3: friend talking ship all my fucking Canadian friends. We got this. 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah it didn't work out. No, no, it didn't. It 140 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: didn't work. 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 4: Jesus came through. 142 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 2: He needed, uh, he needed a moment like that because, uh, 143 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 2: maybe there's a little criticism on whether he can win 144 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: the big one, but I think that will catapult him. 145 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 2: And they have a very strong team in Edmonton, so 146 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: they might they might be hoisting the Stanley Cup this year. 147 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: I'd like to see that for him. 148 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into the teams. But how how cool 149 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: was that l a skate yesterday? You know, like just. 150 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 3: Well, you know I got to see you know, Uncle Snoop, 151 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: my little I brought my daughter and she was just 152 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: in in in an awe of Snoop will Ferrell. 153 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: She thinks his elf. Uh, and she did a little 154 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: high We were sitting on the glass and and Beebes 155 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: gave her a little high five. She almost Yeah, she 156 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: had a and we got a puck from uh who 157 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: was Eric Armstrong? Armstrong Armstrong gave us a puck. You 158 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: know what, I had so much fun watching the old boys, 159 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: like just hockey guys, likes like they didn't lose any 160 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: of it, Like they may have lost explosion, but they 161 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: could still go out and fucking play like that was 162 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: so cool to watch him. 163 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 5: And Mess is working out every morning. He has a 164 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 5: fucking machine. 165 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: I think he could still play in the league, especially 166 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: for how soft some of these guys are nowadays, that 167 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: he would, he would still run show. And uh, he's 168 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 2: just such a great ambassador for a game. And even 169 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: after the career he had kind of like you, he 170 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: transitioned into media and he's crushing on ESPN. 171 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 4: PK. Sue Ben was there. 172 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 2: Looked a little rusty last night. Who messeddk oh PK. Yeah, 173 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: well he's too busy doing all the media. He probably 174 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: doesn't hop on the skates much anymore. 175 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 3: So you lose it. You lose it if you're not 176 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: on the skates. 177 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Hockey is the one thing where you could 178 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 2: run and work out twice a day. But if you're 179 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: not on your edges and on your blades, it's just 180 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 2: little little must groups that you just have a real 181 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 2: hard time finding if you're not on the ice. And 182 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: for me, I tore both my acls and my last season, 183 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 2: so I haven't really stayed in both. 184 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 5: Buddy, both I tore my no on one play no 185 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 5: I tore. 186 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 4: I tore my right one. 187 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Of all that, that's a real bender right there, man, 188 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: that's like an official vendor status. 189 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 4: So I was trying. 190 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 2: To keep up to these young guys, right the game 191 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 2: is constantly evolving, the players are getting faster and faster. 192 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: So I tore my right one, and I knew it 193 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: was going to be my last year, so I prehabbed 194 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 2: it to try to come back and finish the season. 195 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 2: So finally did so, came back, tweaked it again the 196 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: first game back. Took another like month to prehabit. Came 197 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: back in my first game back. Were in San Jose. 198 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 2: Playned the Barracuda and that's the San Jose Sharks farm team. 199 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 2: They have like one hundred people in the crowd. I 200 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 2: go to battle for a puck and then boom on 201 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 2: the other side, and I felt it go and I'll 202 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: never forget. I went over to the trainer who'd been 203 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 2: helping me prehab the other one. I go, mearsy, I 204 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: think I just tore my other acl. He goes, what 205 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: the fuck are you talking about there's no way. So 206 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: I sat on the bench the rest of that period 207 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: went in between. He looked at it and he's like, gone, 208 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 2: mcl a cl So I'm walking around with two torn acls. 209 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 2: I ended up getting surgery in my left after the 210 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: season and that was it. Never even bothered repairing my right. 211 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: So it was a tough way to go. I actually, 212 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 2: once I tore it, I'm like, fuck it. I got 213 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 2: to make myself useful. So I fought this Zach Stirteini guy. 214 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: I was like, I was like Bambi out there. I 215 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 2: could barely stand up. But I figured I'd make myself 216 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 2: useful and I'll never forget my head coach, who i'd 217 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 2: won a championship that I mentioned earlier with the Calder 218 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: Cup played for him in junior, and he came into 219 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 2: the trainer's room and he's like, what's what's going on. 220 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: I go STATSI I tore the other one and we 221 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 2: had we shedded a tier. It was sad because I 222 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 2: knew my career was over, but it was a pretty 223 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 2: Uh it's just funny that that's the way that my 224 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: career ended. 225 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 3: It was very just a plug, you. 226 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: Know, press box junkie when I played in the NHL 227 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 2: and just kind of going out in style. 228 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: I guess you went till the wheels fell off literally 229 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: literally literally Yeah. 230 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 3: And you gotta fight on the way out. 231 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: And that's another thing that impresses me is the balance 232 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: that you guys have when you're fighting, because fighting on 233 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:20,080 Speaker 1: ground is tough. Yeah, when you're fighting on fucking skates, 234 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,240 Speaker 1: like it's that's crazy. Which celebrity did you think had 235 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: the best game last night? 236 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: I actually think Bieber is pretty silky. Yeah, you know, 237 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: he's he's got a little bit of the ankle bender going, 238 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: but he's got silky mits. So I would probably put 239 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: him at the top of the list. 240 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 3: Uh. 241 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 2: He just needs to work on his toughness. Although I 242 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: think that Jeremy Roona kind of let him win that 243 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: fight to get his confidence going. But uh, just cool 244 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:46,440 Speaker 2: the fact that he was there. 245 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 3: Roner, could he would have hit If he would have 246 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 3: hit Bieber, I mean that could have been bad for 247 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 3: every little girl in his family. They would have hated. 248 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,439 Speaker 4: Him, They would have definitely disowned him. 249 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, wife and all for Yeah, but uh, I 250 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: mean just going back to the four Nations and like 251 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: even the scrapping, Like, I don't know if you know 252 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: the Kuchuck brothers at all. 253 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 3: I don't know them personally. 254 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: Boston guys. 255 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: Boston guys. 256 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: I know them though what they dad was a Boston 257 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: guy and they were everywhere because of the dead. 258 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 259 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 5: Did you hear about the round robin game. 260 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: And how they fought in the first three? Yeah, and 261 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 2: how they basically pre planned that? 262 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: Now, how they do that? Explain that? 263 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: So we were in Montreal, the mecca hockey of the world, 264 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: and like rumblings were coming out that they had said 265 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 2: that they were going to turn the Bell Center upside down. 266 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 2: The Kuchucks had already said that. So obviously we're going 267 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 2: in with the anticipation that there's going to be like 268 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: a lot of hits. It's going to be a very 269 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 2: intense game. By no means did we expect them to 270 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 2: drop the gloves off the opening face off. So then 271 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: the melee ensues right off the opening drop. Matthew Kuchuck 272 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: ends up fighting Brandon Hegel. Then three seconds later, his brother, 273 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Brady Kuchuck ends up fighting Matthew's teammate Sam Bennett, who's 274 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 2: very close with So holy shit, we got two scraps. 275 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: This is pretty much start to a hockey game of 276 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: all time and then boom another one. 277 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 4: JT. Miller goes after Parenko. 278 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: So after the game and the postgame press conference, they 279 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 2: said that they had a text chain going that said, Hey, 280 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 2: let's fucking get this thing going tonight. So they had 281 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 2: essentially pre planned it, the three of them, and they 282 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: got the fireworks started, and it was a great rest 283 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: of the game. Like Charlie McAvoy under Boston Boy, he 284 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,599 Speaker 2: was laying out McDavid and that really is what propelled 285 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: the conversation to what ended up being the finals. So 286 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 2: you could either go to the championship game that got 287 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 2: over sixty million viewers, but I, for me, I look 288 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: back at that WWE style start to the round robin 289 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 2: game to what propelled the hockey and where it's at 290 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: in the last two weeks. 291 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: Now without a doubt. 292 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: I mean, those that three fight game that put in 293 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: everyone's radar, what the fuck is this for nations thing? 294 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: And the fact that like you know, football is over right, 295 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: Football is a juggernaut. There's no taking viewership away from that. 296 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: Butter with the Super Bowl and not really much going 297 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: on with the NBA, I mean, other than like the 298 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: shitty All Star game they got going, everybody's just craving 299 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: some type of sport. So the timing of it all 300 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 2: was just perfect for the NHL. And by the start 301 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 2: of the game to the end of the game, it 302 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 2: was the conversation on Twitter. It's all anybody was talking about, 303 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 2: even if they knew nothing about hockey. They were just 304 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: so invested in the hatred between USA and Canada, which 305 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: at this point you could obviously put the Russians, the Swedes, 306 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: and the Fins at the top of the list, but 307 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: the two leading hockey nations in the world right now 308 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 2: are in North America, and it's exciting times. 309 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: It is exciting times. It's really fun as an American 310 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 1: to see that we're even put into that sentence, because 311 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: you know how Canada fucking loves their hockey, love it. 312 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: I mean, that's their sport. 313 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 2: I don't think there's probably a lot of Americans watching 314 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: this right now. I don't think people understand how important 315 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: that was from a moral perspective. I think right now, 316 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 2: from an economy perspective, Canada's in a bit of a dip. 317 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: Leadership will be changing, you know, I don't I don't 318 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: get into politics too much. Like I took the fifty 319 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 2: first state comments and then the tariff things as like 320 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 2: more like chirps from Trump and we're a very sensitive nation. 321 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 2: So I think that that just really propelled the political 322 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: climate of the game. And then the booing of the anthems. 323 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: So it was the perfect amount of political spice for 324 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: the game. 325 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 4: Not too much. 326 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 2: And I don't like politics and sports like to be overbearing. 327 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Without a doubt, And we'll get more into the game. 328 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: But take us through your journey, your hockey journey. You 329 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: played twelve years. You battled back and forth from you know, 330 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: the triple As to the big I'm sorry if I 331 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: I fowed up the terminology, yeah, and so take us 332 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: through your journey. 333 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 334 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 5: So I was a pretty decent junior player. I was 335 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 5: a defenceman. 336 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 2: I actually was able to represent my country playing under 337 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 2: seventeen for Team Ontario and then under eighteen was Team Canada. 338 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 2: I played both of them World Championship, was able to 339 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: win gold both times. Was drafted by the Pittsburgh Penguins 340 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: and got in a little bit of trouble early on 341 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: in my career. Like you go from living with a 342 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 2: billet family and junior to all of a sudden, you 343 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: sign a contract, you have money, you're living on your own, 344 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: and you know, probably was drinking and partying a little 345 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 2: bit too much. 346 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 4: So I started off my career. 347 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: And professional in the EHL, basically the lowest league, and 348 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: slowly worked my way up, and after getting in a 349 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: little bit more trouble, basically was in the coast and 350 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 2: thought my career was over. And then from at that 351 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: point I was a defenseman and they called me up 352 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: to the AHL and they said, we're going to make 353 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: you a fourth line fighter. And I had a decision 354 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: to make at that point in time whether I wanted 355 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: to do that or stay stubborn and stay as a defenseman. 356 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 2: And I said, you know, fuck it, If this is 357 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: my only path to maybe get into the NHL, I'll 358 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: do it. 359 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: So I started scrapping. I got beat up a lot. 360 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 2: I had back to back seasons where I fought thirty times, 361 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: and guys at that time in the A were taking steroids. 362 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 2: I was getting shit kicked out of myself, and eventually, 363 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: just from playing that position and sticking at it, I 364 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 2: ended up finally making the bigs with Pittsburgh. 365 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: And I got to team make it though unreal. 366 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: I got to play with Sidney Crossy, have Genny malk 367 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 2: and Marc Andre Fleury. You know, just those memories alone 368 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 2: were unbelievable, even though I was only there for about 369 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six games, played fifteen and then the following season, 370 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 2: I was old enough where I got sent down, but 371 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 2: I could get picked up by Waivers, so I got 372 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: to go over to Phoenix, who put in acclaim for 373 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: me and played. 374 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: Five years there, lived out my dream. 375 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 2: Ended up starting Twitter when I was there, and that's 376 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 2: where the whole social media career started and then ended 377 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: up finishing off my career in the American Hockey League. 378 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: So I was one of those guys where I was 379 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 2: a borderline NHLer and I was just grateful to be 380 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: there and was able to play with so many amazing 381 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: teammates and made so many friends in Arizona, one of 382 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: which is another Boston guy, keith Yandle who's now on 383 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: our Spit and Chiccklets podcast. But yeah, it was a whirldwin. 384 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: Grateful to be there and just grateful to transition it 385 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 2: into media and stick around the game and also. 386 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: Have a purpose after my playing career yeah. 387 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean you clearly did that. I mean you still 388 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: played twelve years at a professional sport. Yeah, and then 389 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: you did something amazing where you didn't just become a 390 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,880 Speaker 1: Canadian kid that went back to the house and did 391 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 1: nothing with no with his life. You did something else 392 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 1: and now you're known for something else other than being 393 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: an athlete. 394 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really cool. 395 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always interested in more and what life has 396 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: to offer. So as much as I love my hometown 397 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 2: of well In, Ontario, I always knew there was more 398 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 2: out there and more I wanted to do the same. 399 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: Reason why at sixteen years old when I was drafted 400 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: to junior, like I moved away from home and I 401 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 2: lived at the Bill family. I never even called home 402 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: for the first three weeks while we had training camp 403 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: and stuff, like I dove right in. I didn't get 404 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: home stick because I knew that, you know, if you 405 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: wanted to achieve anything in life, you were going to 406 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,719 Speaker 2: have to, you know, go outside your comfort zone and 407 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 2: do it. And I was also like things happened for 408 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: a reason too, Like I was in Pittsburgh, which is 409 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 2: a you know, a very respected organization, and not to 410 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: say Arizona wasn't but Arizona was was a team where 411 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 2: they didn't mind getting any type of publicity. So I 412 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: was able to start out a Twitter account and be 413 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: an absolute donkey online, like with the shit that I 414 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 2: was doing and saying and tweeting. I was going on 415 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 2: Lake local radio stations and like, they hooked me up 416 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 2: with this girl, Bibby Jones, So I guess I'm actually 417 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: Eskimo Brothers with Gronk. I hate to throw them under 418 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 2: the bus, but she actually posted a she actually posted 419 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 2: a photo of them, and then she asked me for 420 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: a photo to post and I was like, I don't 421 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 2: think I want that smoke right, And then she went 422 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: on the local radio the next morning and put me 423 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: on blast. 424 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,479 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, just all what year is this? 425 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 2: Oh this is probably like two thousand and eleven. So 426 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 2: so the shit that I was able to get away 427 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: with and droll my own personal social channels based on 428 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: playing in Arizona and the fact that they wanted publicity, 429 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: it just worked out perfectly. And that's kind of what 430 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 2: got me my start into the media, where I started 431 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: getting more opportunities and offers to do these one off videos. 432 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 2: And then by the time I retired, I got my 433 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 2: buddy here, Pasha. I dove right into it. I did 434 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 2: this film project called Biz DOESBC. So, yeah, is it awkward? 435 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 2: And it was, you know, it was very silly at 436 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 2: the time, but it taught me a lot about what 437 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: I needed to know in the backside after retiring. So 438 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: just a world win of a career in a transition, 439 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 2: But wouldn't change it for the world. 440 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: Fucking it's been fun to I didn't. 441 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: Have the playing career that you had. I was in 442 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: the press box more. I had more healthy scratches in 443 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 2: my career than games played. 444 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, still you still made do with what 445 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 3: you had. That's it, and that's what you could continue 446 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: to preach when you talk. 447 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 2: And it's also a lesson for like a lot of 448 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 2: kids out there, Like everybody drafted when they're playing junior, 449 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: we're probably the stars of their team, right Yeah, but 450 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 2: you know at a certain point you're not going to 451 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 2: be the star and you have to make a sacrifice. 452 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 2: Are you okay being the fourth line peasant who's getting 453 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: healthy scratched. If you're not willing to put your ego aside, 454 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: there's other guys who will, and there's positions for those guys. 455 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 2: So I'm glad at the time I was able to 456 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 2: make that decision. It just kind of happened naturally, like 457 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: I you know, who knows. Maybe going back, if it 458 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: would have happened again it was the wrong day, maybe 459 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 2: I would have been stubborn about it, but just grateful 460 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 2: that that's the path I chose and I was accepting 461 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 2: of that and it led to all this. 462 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: That's what people don't realize is the different ego slots 463 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: in the locker room for a professional athlete. Being a 464 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 1: role player, you have to swallow your pride, do everything, 465 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: have mental toughness, do what's best for the team, win 466 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: it may not be best for you, and be that 467 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: role guy and love doing that. The fullback going out 468 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: and blowing out his head every day in practice, like 469 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: knowing that he'll never touch the ball, but that's just 470 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: like that's a big thing. How like talk us through 471 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: that transition mentally when you go from defenceman to fourth 472 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: line fighter, Like, and how does that transition go? 473 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: Do did you go to boxing camp? 474 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 5: Or like? 475 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 3: How the fuck? 476 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 2: So? When I, even when I was playing junior, I 477 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 2: liked handling my own business. Yeah, but that would be 478 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: about five six times a year and normally against other 479 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 2: guys who were playing more so they weren't like just 480 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 2: specifically heavyweight scrappers. So it was hard just because I 481 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: was getting used to fighting these guys who, like some 482 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: guys were on steroids and they were just a lot 483 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: more experience, have been doing it since they were kids. 484 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, I took boxing lessons in the summertime and 485 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: prepared as much as possible, but it was hard, and 486 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 2: at that time, like there was no social media, so 487 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: you were getting there was really no way to escape it. 488 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 2: You'd get beat up, you'd get on the bus, you'd 489 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 2: travel four hours that night to the next city, and 490 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: you kind of just be sitting there in your seat 491 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 2: like half concussed, you know, wondering like, oh my god. 492 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 4: I got to do this again tomorrow night. 493 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 2: And so it was definitely a transition and a hard 494 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 2: process to start to understand. But it just taught me 495 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,879 Speaker 2: a lot about like adversity and how to deal with 496 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 2: that type of stuff and really prepared me for what 497 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: was to come for. 498 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:15,160 Speaker 4: After my career. 499 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 2: So great life lessons to learn, like getting the shit 500 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: kicked out of yourself. 501 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, can you got to walk us beat for beat 502 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: on how a fight goes down in hockey as casual 503 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: as casual, like, is it a fucking look? 504 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: Is it? 505 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: Are you guys talking to each other on the ice? 506 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: Is it like just is it just drop them in? 507 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: Fucking go? 508 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,479 Speaker 3: So what is this? Walk us through this? 509 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 2: So the reason I love to do it the most 510 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 2: was to protect my teammates, especially when they were being 511 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 2: taken advantage of. And that was the one thing that 512 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: made it a lot easier when I was going through 513 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: all that. And you know, fighting three thirty times a 514 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 2: year for the first time, is how appreciative your teammates are. 515 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 2: And so you know, let's say one of our skill 516 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: players gets ran by one. 517 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 4: Of these types of players. 518 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 3: It's what ran. 519 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: Like, Let's say he goes back for a puck and 520 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 2: that guy takes a run and I'm like, lays out 521 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 2: a big hit on him, Like there's nothing more than 522 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 2: I want to get on the ice and go challenge 523 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: that guy to get retribution for that hit he just 524 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: throw through or if he's like slashing him and trying 525 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: to take advantage of him. So that to me is 526 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 2: where I would go on the ice, tap him on 527 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 2: the shin pads and say, hey, let's go, motherfucker. 528 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 4: Or maybe you. 529 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 2: Know, we were down three to one at home, and 530 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 2: you know, the energy and the building is flat and 531 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 2: our guys aren't really going. I'm trying to provide a 532 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 2: spark to our team, like let's get this fucking crowd 533 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 2: into it and let's get going. That would be another 534 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: time where I would line up at a face off 535 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,359 Speaker 2: and ask a guy to go. So most of the 536 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: time it was just tapping a guy in the shin 537 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 2: pads and saying, hey, let's let's throw down. 538 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 3: And what do they ever say now? 539 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, typically if your team's ahead, you don't want 540 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: to lose momentum, so. 541 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: You don't want to get the power play, you don't 542 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: want to get pedaled. 543 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, because especially if I'm chasing around the ice and 544 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: I'm tapping him on the shin pads, then I would 545 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: have gotten an instigator penalty. You have to be a 546 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: little bit more subtle about it, where like you're like off, 547 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 2: a face off is when you just verbally say hey, 548 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,479 Speaker 2: you want one, And half the time a guy who 549 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 2: had whose team has a lead, will be like, no, 550 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 2: coach said no. Coach said no, And my coach would 551 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 2: say the same thing to me, you go a biz, 552 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: we got all the momentum, leave it alone. And it 553 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: sucked because sometimes the guy would be tapping on the 554 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: shin pad and and kind of calling you out in 555 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,959 Speaker 2: front of your crowd. And some people they don't give 556 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: a fuck about the momentum. They paid for their ticket 557 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 2: and they want to see people get their face punched in, 558 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 2: So that sucked. But oftentimes, and that guy, if he 559 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,880 Speaker 2: really wanted one, then he would take a run at 560 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: one of my teammates and then it was like, okay, 561 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 2: now it's no more questions asked. 562 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: We're fucking going yeah. 563 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Now what's the difference between a fighter and an agitator? 564 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: Because we just had Sean Avery on yes, and I 565 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: just want to clarify talk. 566 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 4: About another guy who had a great transition out of playing. 567 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 3: He's fucking doing another Nolan movie. 568 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 4: He is. He is an unreal ad. He's he's very 569 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 4: disciplined to. 570 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: He's part of my neighborhood watch for my daughter's house. 571 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: He lives in the same neighborhood. And so remember that 572 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: TMZ TMZ video that came out of him yelling at 573 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: the kid yes, and that was right by my house. 574 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: No ship yeah, he's gotten in a few Donnie Brooks 575 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: off the Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got I. 576 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 3: Love having him up there. But it makes my kid 577 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 3: feel safe. And he's doing all the jiu jitsu stuff. Yeah, 578 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,680 Speaker 3: he's like godd he's pretty to be an agitator, though 579 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 3: he was. 580 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: He was probably one of the best ever to agitate. 581 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 2: I mean, I know you had him on recently he 582 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: talked about the bro Dure stuff. Sean would say some 583 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,159 Speaker 2: insane ship to people on pace, like places that I 584 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 2: would not go if like if if Yeah, it's just 585 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 2: some of the ship he said. 586 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 4: Your jaw would drop and you'd be like, oh my god. 587 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 2: I wouldn't want to be in a relationship if I 588 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: was playing against Sean Avery Like, I might even divorce 589 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 2: my wife before I played against him, just to avoid 590 00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: the type of insults that he would throw. But he 591 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: was very good at like picking his spots and then 592 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: knowing when to rile the other team up and then 593 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 2: not fighting. So he was a master of his craft. 594 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: I don't think he left the league with a ton 595 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: of friends, but I don't also think he gives a shit. 596 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 4: He runs a tight ship. He's got a tight group, 597 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 4: and that's all he cares about. 598 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the fighter and the agitator is different. 599 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, like he he was also a very good player 600 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: when he focused on playing. 601 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,200 Speaker 3: I think he could. 602 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: He was a very reliable third line player, and even 603 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 2: in some cases he could go up and down the lineup, 604 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 2: like if you needed Sean to play on the first 605 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: line for a night, he could fit in. Maybe not 606 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,919 Speaker 2: sustainably for a twenty game stretch, but for me, I 607 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: was just more of a knuckle dragger. Where I mean, 608 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 2: the most minutes I ever played in the game, I'll 609 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: never forget it. It was eleven minutes in Edmonton. I 610 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: had to assist that game, and I felt like I 611 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 2: needed to be in a body cast the next day 612 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 2: because even playing eleven minutes and keeping up to these 613 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 2: world class athletes like that was my not my jam. 614 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: So I was comfortable with my five to six minutes 615 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: knuckle dragon fourth line. Dump it in, dump it out, Ay, boys, 616 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 2: change it up, let's go. 617 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: Are you watching film of fighting guys like guys that 618 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: you potentially fight, like I know this guy, he's gonna 619 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: pull my jersey, probably give me a right hook or something. 620 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 2: So fortunately enough for me at the time where I 621 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: started doing it like YouTube was a thing and starting lowly, 622 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: social media started coming in, so I could study that 623 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 2: way where the olden days they had to find like 624 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: the VHS tapes and cutups. And also I started fighting 625 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 2: in a time where like the American League actually probably 626 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 2: had more of the tough guys in the NHL because 627 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: they were slowly weeding out that style in the NHL, 628 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 2: where now it's a lot more organic and there's not 629 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: as many heavyweights, like guys like Tom Wilson are still 630 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 2: very efficient because they can play and their heavyweights. So 631 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: fortunately for me when I was in the NHL, I 632 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 2: wasn't having to scrap the old fighters of the past 633 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: where they would grab on and they would just go 634 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: punch in the face match where there was no defense none. 635 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 3: It was I watch it every time, like these guys 636 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 3: take fucking two or three off the face and just 637 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: keep going. 638 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 2: And I was more of a defensive fighter where you 639 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: look back and I'm just so grateful. If I was 640 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 2: playing in the seventies, like my nose would be on 641 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 2: the other side of my head, ye, and I probably 642 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: would be like eating through a two at this point. 643 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 4: So just a. 644 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: Different era, and I guess to answer your going back 645 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: to your question, the difference between an agitator is somebody 646 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: who doesn't necessarily have to fight all the time, but 647 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 2: can get under people's skin, play the game, and also 648 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 2: handle his business. 649 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: Shit. What makes a good locker room guy in hockey? 650 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 3: I think just you guys have you guys always have. 651 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: I feel like that you guys always have pretty great 652 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: locker rooms. 653 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 1: There's not like it's not like football or basketball or 654 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: I don't know how baseball that much. 655 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: You know, they got a lot of that too, where 656 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,240 Speaker 3: there's there's like a. 657 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: Lot of egos sometimes with certain positions. I feel like hockey, 658 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: those guys are always what makes the locker room so great. 659 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: I mean there have been locker rooms like that. I 660 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: was blessed throughout my entire career where we always had 661 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 2: great locker room culture. 662 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: I was. 663 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 2: I played in Pittsburgh's organization, Phoenixes and LA's and every 664 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 2: organization was first class. And I would say, what makes 665 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: a good locker room guy is just like guys who 666 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 2: are selfless. You know, they look they look after the team, 667 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: They care about wins more than they do their individual stats. 668 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 2: And that was just kind of how we operated in 669 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: Phoenix because that's where I was for the majority of 670 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: my my NHL career. We had great leadership like Shane 671 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 2: don and really it was a trickle down effect from there, 672 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: and I personally was like in and out of the lineup. 673 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: I was the locker room DJ. When I wasn't playing 674 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 2: after the game, I was making sure I was handing 675 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: out shakes more you can do. I was making sure 676 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: that we'd have a couple of cases of beers for 677 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: the bus. 678 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 3: So the guys. 679 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you know, I always I learned from a 680 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: young age that that's kind of what you had to 681 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 2: do in order to be a good teammate, especially if 682 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: you weren't contributing on the ice. And but it goes 683 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: back to the entire locker room where we just had 684 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: a great culture. 685 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 4: And that's just kind of the situations that I was in. 686 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: Now, what playlist as team DJ got the boys going 687 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: the best? 688 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 2: So I think you had to read the room. And 689 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: we had the check mafias. We had about five or 690 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 2: six check guys on our team, and so they straight 691 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,240 Speaker 2: they liked the techno. They like, yeah, the disco biscuits, 692 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: let's go, yeah, go into all. 693 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 3: Those finish dudes, they all love that shit. Huh Yeah. 694 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: We had a few euros and when they were in 695 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: the locker room, I made sure that they were they 696 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: were getting their techno. We had some Western leaguers they 697 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: wanted the country and then usually leading up to Puck Drop, 698 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 2: it was hip hop and then maybe a few like 699 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: hardcore ac DC. 700 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,160 Speaker 5: Thunderstruck can never go wrong. You can't go wrong with Thunderstruck. 701 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's on every kid's highlight film 702 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: that's thirty five and older. 703 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 2: If you can't get your dick card to Thunderstruck, like you, 704 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: you you got problems. You don't deserve to be in 705 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 2: the league. 706 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: I'm tn T guy too. Yeah, I just want to 707 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: hit something. 708 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Now I got to ask something. You guys 709 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: use the word slap dick. We use slap dick all 710 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: the time too. 711 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: No, they don't. I want the equivalent of slaptick. 712 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: Oh what's the equivalent? 713 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 5: Explain slaptick? 714 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 3: A slap dick to us is like a baba luke 715 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: or like just. 716 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: Like explain baba luke. 717 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, it used to be a different language. 718 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: A locker room is kind of like a guy that 719 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 3: he's a slappy like he's like. 720 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 4: He'll go over after the game. 721 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 5: What's that he's more of? 722 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 3: He's not a cool kid yet you know how there's 723 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: like socioeconomic statuses in the locker room. He's not a 724 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 3: cool kid, but he's not like someone he's like in 725 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: that bottom tier of the of the team. 726 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: Probably me, Yeah, I was just handing out the protein 727 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: shakes after the game. 728 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 3: Or you know the guys like my my. 729 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: My one example is like I remember me and Rob 730 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: Nikovich early in my career when I was a slap dick. 731 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: We would sit in the locker room after organized team 732 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 1: activities in spring, like mini camps, and we we'd have 733 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the day off, and we'd be talking 734 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 1: about going to Waxies, which is this local bar where 735 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: no one knew who we were because we wear helmets 736 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: and we were young guys and no one kneho we were. 737 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: And we would sit there and we would just dream 738 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: about look at Brady. 739 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 3: And say, man, you think he's gonna take his supermodel 740 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 3: wife on a fucking helicopter in Hamptons for a fucking 741 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 3: lunch today or that like that? Those are the slap 742 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 3: looking at those guys like the what is is there? 743 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 3: A slap dick name in hockey. I would I use 744 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 3: the term tire pumper. 745 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 4: I was. 746 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 2: I used to pump guys tires and and you know, 747 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: you want to make them feel good, especially a guy 748 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: not playing is you want them being at the most confident. 749 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: So even before games, like the rule was is when 750 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 2: I had Dave Tippet as a head coach, even when 751 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: I was a healthy. 752 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 4: Scratch, I would go for warm up. So I'd be 753 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 4: around the locker. 754 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 2: Room just being like, man, you're the best, like you're 755 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 2: you're fucking buzzing lately, you know, scoring all those goals. 756 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: Maybe not speculating what they were doing with their wives, 757 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 2: but more so just making sure their tires were pumped, 758 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 2: their egos were inflav we. 759 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 3: Were marveling that like, yes, he's just like man, I 760 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: wonder what he's probably gonna go to, like Italy for 761 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 3: the day. 762 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 2: I would always like to ask guys like can I 763 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 2: see your paycheck? Yeah, because they would put the hard 764 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 2: copy in the stall, and you know, I'd look at 765 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: mine and I was fucking grateful at that time, like 766 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: twenty grand every two weeks. 767 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 768 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: And then you'd look at a guy like Ed Joe Venowski, 769 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 2: like two hundred and fifty three hundred K every two weeks, 770 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:46,479 Speaker 2: and you're just. 771 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:47,240 Speaker 3: Like, what the fuck? 772 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 2: Go good by Bentley if he wanted to to he wanted. 773 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: It's crazy when silver Leaf, you know, playing golf every day, 774 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 2: you know, rubin elbows mine while I'm eating at fucking 775 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 2: five guys. 776 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: Well, time in my career, Thursdays was a Chili's night, Okay, 777 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 1: bottomless chips and salsa, that's your go to. 778 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 3: That was our go to first three years of my 779 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 3: career at Chili's. 780 00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 4: So so it wasn't until year four where you were 781 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 4: a starter. 782 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: I was a special teamer, so I played, I returned punts, 783 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: I covered kicks. We had Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Joey Galloway. 784 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: So like I was bottom on the depth chart at 785 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,440 Speaker 1: receiver and I was a quarterback in college, so I 786 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: was transferring positions. So I had to like make myself valuable. 787 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: I had to go to the hockey boy route and 788 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 1: fucking tire pump a bunch of dudes and play on 789 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: every fucking team and learn the game before I got 790 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to start. 791 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 4: So, like, what would Randy Moss dap you up. 792 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Randy love Like Randy was souper cool to me. 793 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: He he used to call me Edel nut, you know, 794 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: and he would he would make me why because I 795 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 1: was like a nut, you know. I was a little kid, 796 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: fucking asking questions all the time. 797 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 3: I had no clue. You're you're in a new part 798 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 3: of the world, new part of the country. 799 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 4: Probably bringing energy to the locker room too. What you 800 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 4: have to do when you're a. 801 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 3: Tire pump, but you can't be heard, you have to 802 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 3: be seen. It's a rookie, okay, you know, so you're 803 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 3: not bringing that much. 804 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 4: I came in hot. That was my problem. 805 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,760 Speaker 2: Like some guys were probably like this guy's a loser, 806 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 2: but eventually I grew on them. 807 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: I came in hot once with Randy on Christmas and 808 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 1: told him to tell his mom Merry Christmas while he's 809 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: on the phone with her. And he looked at me 810 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: and said, edelmanha, if I'm ever talking to my mom, 811 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: just shut the fuck up on Christmas. 812 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,399 Speaker 3: Okay, So like you. 813 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: Were Jewish, But he also like loved me up, like 814 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: I would have to keep the receiver, like you're when 815 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: you're a young guy or rookie, you'd have to get 816 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: all the food for the travel. Yeah, and you usually 817 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: have to pay for it out of your own pocket. 818 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: But he'd always I was a seventh round guy. He'd 819 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: always slide me the money and make me go. 820 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 3: Like he took care of me. 821 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: But he's awesome. He let me know that I was 822 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,479 Speaker 1: a rookie. But he always when no one was looking, 823 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 1: he'd always pump my tires. 824 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 2: So year fourwards, when you you walked in and you 825 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: finally fell like you'd establish yourself and then you had like. 826 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: The no, I was still battling. It wasn't until about 827 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: year five, my year five, after year five, that's when 828 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: I went for like one hundred and five catches. That 829 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: was the after that year, that's when it was like, 830 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: all right, now you're not a slappy. 831 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 2: So before that, you like wouldn't text back and forth 832 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 2: with Brady. 833 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: I would. So I was trying to get there. I 834 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,719 Speaker 3: was making myself available. I was like the uh, you know, 835 00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 3: I was kind of like the uh, the non threatening 836 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 3: guy friend okay for him or you know, if he 837 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 3: needed me in La anytime I traveled anywhere. He was 838 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 3: just in case he needed me to throw too so 839 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 3: I made myself available. So the first year, you know, 840 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 3: in the off seasons, we didn't we threw once because 841 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 3: all the receivers used to throw at them. And then 842 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 3: you know, by year four, we're throwing three or four 843 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 3: times a day. And what that did was I learned 844 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 3: what he liked, he learned my body mechanics, and the 845 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 3: rest is, you know, goes on. 846 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 5: To how you started in the friend zone with Brady. 847 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 3: Was I was friend zone because he ed Welker and Moss. 848 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and then and then those guys took off 849 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: and you took their place. 850 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 3: And they took off. Yeah, you know, he's kind of like 851 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey. I guess and days and confused. 852 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 5: They get older, I keep getting older and they keep playing. 853 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,120 Speaker 3: I was just a younger version of them. 854 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable. Oh, great way to put it. 855 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 3: Who were some of the big dogs you looked out 856 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 3: for on your teams? 857 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,319 Speaker 2: Well, Yeans because he was a skilled defenceman. Ed Jovanovski 858 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 2: who was a veteran defenseman for US, but like a 859 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,520 Speaker 2: star at that time, he'd want a gold with Team 860 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 2: Canada at the Olympics. 861 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: Shane Doan was our captain. 862 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,200 Speaker 2: The thing about Arizona is we didn't have a big 863 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 2: we didn't have a big budget. Like at one point 864 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: when I was there, the league took over and they 865 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 2: owned the team. So we never really had these like 866 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,440 Speaker 2: high end superstars on our team. We just had a 867 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,280 Speaker 2: really galvanized group of lunch pale mentality type of players 868 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: where my first, second and third year there, we made playoffs. 869 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,840 Speaker 2: Every year we were projected to finish last or second 870 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 2: last in our conference, and even to the third year 871 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 2: we won our division and ended up going to the 872 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: conference finals. So it was really cool. That was in 873 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: like fifteen, I believe that that was two thousand and. 874 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 3: Thirteen, thirteen, I remember that. 875 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we lost to the La Kings in five. 876 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 3: Remember those jerseys, and I was like, who the fuck 877 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 3: is a coyote? 878 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly exactly. 879 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: Now, yeah, we're staying at the fucking Best Westerns when 880 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: other teams are staying at the Ritz Carlton and just 881 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: like you know, that's sick, eating chicken noodle sup before games, 882 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 2: just to survive. And and sure enough we go all 883 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 2: the way to the conference finals. So it was a 884 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 2: very special group and we had a guy, Ray Whitney, 885 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: who played over a thousand games, over thousand points. 886 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 3: Who was he? 887 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 2: Actually, it's he has a funny story. He grew up 888 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 2: in Edmonton. His father was a trainer for the Edmonton Oilers, 889 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 2: and he grew up and he would go to the 890 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 2: locker room and help as a trainer for game days 891 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 2: and he would be taping Wayne Gretzky sticks. Oh, Wayne 892 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,879 Speaker 2: Gretzky would use about like five to eight sticks every game, 893 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 2: and he would go there and tape it up and 894 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 2: he'd make sure after the game and a Gatorade cup 895 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: he'd have a beer. So when Wayne was doing his interviews, 896 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 2: he'd be drinking a beer, but it was in a 897 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 2: Gatorade cup, so no one knews. So he ended up 898 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: evolving into an incredible player undersize, but ended up having 899 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: a tremendous career. So those are some of the leaders. 900 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,720 Speaker 3: He must be a good tape stick taper stick taper, 901 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: because I remember watching Sagan do that once and it 902 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 3: was like taping the stick. I know, but like that's 903 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 3: a guy's like to have someone else do it. It's 904 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 3: like prepping your sword. 905 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 2: No, yeah, some guys are very sloppy about it. David 906 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 2: Posterknock used to just go like a couple strips and 907 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 2: he'd score fifty goals. It didn't just yeah, like right 908 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 2: out of the wrapper tape, a couple of strips on 909 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: it and he's out there. But other guys are very 910 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,279 Speaker 2: precise where they would have the same amount, Like there 911 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 2: wouldn't be a millimeter of difference between every player of 912 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 2: how it went all the way to the toe from 913 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: heel to toe or whatever. But yeah, so that's the 914 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: that's the guy's sore that they have to use. So 915 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: some guys treat it with with massive respect. 916 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 3: You have to. 917 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now you started in social media, Yeah, that's how 918 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,200 Speaker 1: everyone kind of found you. Yeah, and you jumped over 919 00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: into the mainstream and you work with T and T. 920 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,839 Speaker 1: How the fuck has that been? Because I'm in this 921 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: world now too, and it's a fun world. How's it 922 00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: for you guys? 923 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,800 Speaker 2: So I don't think I would be on T and 924 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: T if it wasn't for the Spit and Chickles podcast. 925 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: Soh Rear Admiral ra as we call him him and 926 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 2: Wit started the pod and Mike Grinnell, our producer, hopped 927 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: on and then it kind of evolved to what it 928 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: was before I hopped on that I actually started as 929 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,360 Speaker 2: a color guy with the Coyotes after I retired, So 930 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: doing the full game and talking for the three hours 931 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 2: really prepared me for the podcast. Then the podcast got 932 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 2: me the job with T and T because of the 933 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: pod popularity that had grown from it, and also the 934 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: fact that when I was playing with the Coyotes, Wayne 935 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: Gretzky was actually the coach. Before I got there, the 936 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399 Speaker 2: market had gone down, so he kept his home there 937 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,920 Speaker 2: and his two kids, Tye and Trevor, along with my 938 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 2: good buddy Joey Superstein. They were living in this mansion 939 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 2: going to ASU. So I was going there and partying 940 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,600 Speaker 2: with them, and we were throwing these after hours, like 941 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 2: Tom Green would show up, like it was just this 942 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 2: crazy time in my life. And when the TNT gig 943 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,799 Speaker 2: came up, Wayne Gretzky was already hired, and when they 944 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 2: were talking about people to add ty and Trevor, his 945 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: kids were like, Dad, why don't you get Biz on board? 946 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 2: Like he's a fucking clown online, like he would be 947 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 2: awesome for the broadcast. So Wayne's like, all right, and 948 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 2: then he mentioned it to them. I went in for 949 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 2: a trial and hit it off with Liam McHugh who's 950 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 2: an incredible bus driver, and then yeah, he's an unreal 951 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 2: bus driver, Like this guy's motor's insane, and then and 952 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 2: then answered Carter, who'd already been doing it. And the 953 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,560 Speaker 2: tryout went great, and the next thing you know, I 954 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,920 Speaker 2: got high to do NHL on TNT and I've been 955 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 2: so grateful to just be a part of that whole 956 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 2: franchise and the fact that the NBA guys like Shaq, Chuck, Ernie, 957 00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,960 Speaker 2: all of them have kind of set the table and 958 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 2: transformed the way that broadcast should be. Like we're so 959 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,200 Speaker 2: much looser and able to snap it around at that 960 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: pace because those guys had had done what they'd done, 961 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 2: done what they did prior. And TNT is in turner 962 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: is just a dream to work for. It's been it's 963 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 2: been world first class and couldn't be more grateful. 964 00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: And it's so fun because I work at Fox and 965 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 1: it's fun watching you guys, and from my experience getting 966 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: to go to work and see how we long Terry Bradshaw, 967 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 1: it gives you my football fix. Like everyone asked, don't 968 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 1: you want to coach? I'm like, fuck no, those guys 969 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: have no lives. 970 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 3: I still get my football fix by going to work 971 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,799 Speaker 3: and talking old war stories with Terry Bradshaw. HOWI long 972 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,040 Speaker 3: Michael Strahan all those guys and have that locker room vibe. 973 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,799 Speaker 3: How's the locker room vibe with fucking your guy? Yeah, Gretzky, Like, 974 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,239 Speaker 3: how crazy is how is it to get to work 975 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 3: with the fucking great one every day? It's surreal. 976 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 2: And my first year, especially because he was doing a 977 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560 Speaker 2: little bit more, and I've even shocked the fact that 978 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 2: he's doing it. He's done so much as an ambassador 979 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,960 Speaker 2: for the game, he does so much for the alumni, 980 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 2: so the fact that we even get to be in 981 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 2: his presence is incredible. And our first year before Rick Talckett, 982 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: his good buddy, had got a head coaching job with 983 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 2: the Vancouver Canucks. After broadcast, we'd go back to their 984 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 2: whether you know, whether it was Wayne or Rick's room, 985 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 2: and they would just tell these stories for hours and hours, 986 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 2: and so I'd be I'd be up till four thirty 987 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 2: and I'd have a six am car going, but I 988 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: didn't care. I just wanted to be hearing these iconic 989 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,920 Speaker 2: stories that have transformed the game, and stories that you 990 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: hear about on television when they're breaking all down. But 991 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,840 Speaker 2: even like more of the incurtesies. 992 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 3: Is that you said, I'm not a bord guy. 993 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,640 Speaker 4: Me neither exactly tried a big one. That's like four syllables. 994 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,080 Speaker 2: I should probably stick to my game off the glass 995 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 2: and out the little details. 996 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 3: That's what the details. 997 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,800 Speaker 2: Even more so so just to be around him and 998 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,640 Speaker 2: be in his presence, it's it's like I pitch myself 999 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 2: all the time. He's the greatest to ever do it. 1000 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,959 Speaker 2: And also the reason they call him the great one 1001 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: is not because of what he accomplished on the ice, 1002 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 2: but also what he's done off the ice, Like there's 1003 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 2: no bigger guy. Like all he wants to do is 1004 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 2: help the former players, whether it's get them insurance and 1005 00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 2: grow the game and just help everybody out in the 1006 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: hockey world. 1007 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 4: And uh, just an unreal ambassador for the game of hockey. 1008 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 3: He seems like just a nice man. He is the man, dude, 1009 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,120 Speaker 3: he's the man. He looks like I've never met him. 1010 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 4: He's the best. 1011 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 3: He seems so cool. 1012 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:47,840 Speaker 2: I'll tell him next time he's here. I bet you 1013 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: he would come on your podcast. 1014 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 3: I would love to have fucking Wayne Gretzki on the 1015 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,359 Speaker 3: Goddamn Podcast. 1016 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 2: Because his kids, his kids help run his hockey school, 1017 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 2: his merchandise or they're keeping it as a family business 1018 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,760 Speaker 2: and they run his social So he on the Theovon podcast. Yeah, 1019 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 2: so they'll be like, Dad, go on this, and he'll 1020 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 2: be like, okay. So he just loves it, and he'd. 1021 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: Be a guy that's like a you know, we were 1022 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: very fortunate in our sport to have a great face 1023 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: guy to like Tom. You know, the guys that are 1024 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 1: faces of leagues and that are generational greats. They're not 1025 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 1: just that because they're great on the field or on 1026 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,239 Speaker 1: the ice. It's because they're overall just great dudes, great humans. 1027 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:30,440 Speaker 1: And that's why there's so much greater than everyone. 1028 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and and exactly, and like going back, look at 1029 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,879 Speaker 2: how much Tom's done for the game, Like you think, man, 1030 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 2: go go chill on a beach and and go relax, 1031 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 2: go enjoy it. And it's almost like he feels like 1032 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 2: he's indebted to the game based on what it's provided 1033 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: his life to continue to grow it and obviously to 1034 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,080 Speaker 2: continue to be a part of it. 1035 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 3: And he just loves it. 1036 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 2: And yeah, and you could tell with all of them, 1037 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: it's just a fabric of their being. And uh yeah, 1038 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: it's just. 1039 00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,680 Speaker 1: Because they respect the game and they understand. You know, 1040 00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,360 Speaker 1: you get a lot of these a lot of people 1041 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,240 Speaker 1: that said, you know, I'm I'm not letting the sport 1042 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 1: define me the. 1043 00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,400 Speaker 3: Well you know, the great ones do. Yeah, they understand 1044 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 3: that they're in debt to the sport because what the 1045 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 3: sport has given us. Yeah, and you love that sport, 1046 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And that's what you see 1047 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,439 Speaker 3: from those two specifically, what's it like watching a game 1048 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,839 Speaker 3: with them? Is he is he breaking that ship down? Oh? 1049 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that and also how it will correlate to like 1050 00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 2: just this insane monumental moment throughout hockey history. So that's 1051 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,399 Speaker 2: the best thing with him. It's like goosebumps, goosebumps, choose 1052 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,160 Speaker 2: your own ending. He could bring it anywhere. So getting 1053 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,680 Speaker 2: to watch he also sees it like what's the term. 1054 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 2: He's almost like a savant. So sometimes he'll like describe 1055 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,719 Speaker 2: a plan. I'll be like, oh, yeah, like I don't 1056 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 2: know what the fuck he's saying, Like you should have 1057 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 2: dumped it in. But uh, even to go back to 1058 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 2: to Wayne and and why he is the way he 1059 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:58,120 Speaker 2: is his father Walter like he was an icon in himself, 1060 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,359 Speaker 2: and probably a lot of the pressure that he took 1061 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 2: off Wayne when he was even going through it, and 1062 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 2: the fact that he was an ambassador in himself, whether 1063 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: he was signing autographs or doing media hits, like he 1064 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 2: really pushed it upon Wayne to continue that ambassadorship and 1065 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 2: move the game forward. And even to when Wayne was 1066 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 2: a child, his father was so innovative where he built 1067 00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 2: a pond in his backyard and he would be doing 1068 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 2: drills with tennis balls and Wayne would be like, why 1069 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 2: am I doing drills with a tennis ball rather than 1070 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,400 Speaker 2: a pocket He'd say, because if you can control a 1071 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 2: tennis ball, your hands will be so soft that way, 1072 00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,560 Speaker 2: when the puck comes, you'll be able to cradle it 1073 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 2: so much smoother and softer than everybody else. And that 1074 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,479 Speaker 2: was like, those were like little details that he taught 1075 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 2: Wayne at a young age that propelled him to be 1076 00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,319 Speaker 2: this phenom and end up living up to everything that 1077 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 2: kind of like Mcjesus, like all the hype he lived 1078 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 2: up to, every single ounce of it is. 1079 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:55,799 Speaker 3: Mcjesus gonna be. 1080 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 2: He is him. It's what he does on the ice, 1081 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: it's I don't get it. I don't understand it. So 1082 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 2: I actually I knew that I could never play in 1083 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,960 Speaker 2: the NHL again when I played in an exhibition game 1084 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 2: when I was with the LA Kings organization, so I 1085 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 2: was in training camp. They did this like Craft Hockeyville 1086 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 2: game and it was in like Vernon, BC, so we 1087 00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,799 Speaker 2: traveled there. I got to play in the game, and 1088 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,680 Speaker 2: I was obviously playing fourth line, and you'd heard about 1089 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 2: this kid, and I think this was his first year 1090 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 2: in the league and his first training camp. So I 1091 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 2: ended up getting caught out in the ice twice against him, 1092 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,279 Speaker 2: and he grabbed the puck in his own end, went 1093 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,640 Speaker 2: through our whole five guys and put it in. The 1094 00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: second time he did it, he set somebody up and 1095 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 2: they scored. So two times I got caught out against him, 1096 00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 2: and the speed in which he was skating and controlling 1097 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 2: the puck. After the game, I'm like, I'm done, there's 1098 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 2: no way, And then sure enough I got sent home 1099 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 2: the next day, like back down to the minors. 1100 00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,080 Speaker 4: So that was the end of it. 1101 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,759 Speaker 2: And I knew that this game was being handed off 1102 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,319 Speaker 2: to another level in which I didn't think was ever 1103 00:49:58,360 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: going to be possible. 1104 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 3: Geez. It's it's exciting though. It's so exciting. 1105 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: That's exciting for hockey because the leagues need one guy, 1106 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 1: like who's Basketball's guy right now, which is in a 1107 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: different form of fashion because they have a bunch of guys, 1108 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 1: but they're not like American guys, so they can't build around. 1109 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: Hockey's in a different world where the hockey I consider 1110 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,160 Speaker 1: Canada and American guys like for the North in America, 1111 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Yeah, where you can rally 1112 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 1: behind at least in this country, like they don't have 1113 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: that in a lot of other sports. 1114 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 3: Right now, hockey you have a future. 1115 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 2: So not only mcjesus as we call him, but like 1116 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 2: Nathan McKinnon as Matthews too, Austin Matthews, he had sixty 1117 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 2: nine goals last year. 1118 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: Gigb you then you got his predecessor or he's got 1119 00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,520 Speaker 1: you got his Uh, you just got a couple of 1120 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:49,399 Speaker 1: little battles for. 1121 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 2: It's like I feel like hockey is going into it's 1122 00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 2: almost like it's glory days. Because of just the growth 1123 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,080 Speaker 2: of the game in the United States and in the population. 1124 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 2: They formed the development program here, so the American kidcher 1125 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:05,720 Speaker 2: U the United States so they. 1126 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 3: Have they would they hire. I don't know who runs 1127 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 3: the Canadian guys. 1128 00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,880 Speaker 4: Uh, there are a lot. 1129 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 2: Of Canadian hockey players that have settled in the States 1130 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 2: and probably a big reason as to why the minor 1131 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 2: programs in these different cities, whether it's a Dallas, Florida, 1132 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,080 Speaker 2: that these kids are obviously being raised in the States 1133 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 2: as Americans and the game is growing here. Yeah, Canadians 1134 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 2: do have a little part to do with it, but 1135 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 2: there's tons of amazing. 1136 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,440 Speaker 3: American John barselsand. 1137 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, PMT is like you never know where they're going. 1138 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,839 Speaker 2: So I just kind of got off the rails with them. 1139 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 2: So had to take credit, especially during this time of 1140 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,440 Speaker 2: the foreign nations and all the controversy. 1141 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 4: Between US and Canada. 1142 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 2: But but no, it's the game is in a great 1143 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 2: place and all these players are pushing the envelope, and 1144 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 2: especially the US with how many great players they have 1145 00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:01,000 Speaker 2: they have. Jack Eichel just mentioned they have some great 1146 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,440 Speaker 2: defenseman even Canada, like Cale McCarry. You see his picture 1147 00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 2: on the Spats he is, Yeah, he's a umask guy. 1148 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,400 Speaker 2: He Wayne Gretzy just said the other day he goes biz. 1149 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 2: He's the best thing. Uh, Like he's the biggest comparable 1150 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 2: to Bobby or I've ever seen, and that is very 1151 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 2: high priced, huge. He revolutionized the game as a defenseman 1152 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 2: where he would just take the puck from his own end, 1153 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:23,879 Speaker 2: he'd skate through the team and and do. 1154 00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 4: Whatever he did out there. 1155 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 2: And Cale mccarr defensively and offensively is just an absolute 1156 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: phenom and living up to every expectation to Quinn Hughes, 1157 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 2: he's an American, He's a water bug out there. So 1158 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,840 Speaker 2: he won last year's Norris ahead of Cale mccarr. So 1159 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,320 Speaker 2: you almost like you have these battles going on between 1160 00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,479 Speaker 2: each of these positions, which is a good thing because 1161 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,040 Speaker 2: it's just forcing them all to up their game. And 1162 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,680 Speaker 2: on top of that, you have a storyline of of 1163 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,879 Speaker 2: the Hughes brothers, so this you. 1164 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 3: Can love that hockey guy. There's so many goddamn brothers 1165 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,560 Speaker 3: in the Hut, three of them that are all under 1166 00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 3: They're all like all stars. 1167 00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:00,720 Speaker 2: You got the Kachuck Brothers who are now the modern 1168 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 2: day Bash Brothers, and the Mighty Ducks movie Bolton. You 1169 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,080 Speaker 2: can there's a million storylines going on in hockey. And 1170 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 2: and that's why I said, I feel like we're entering 1171 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 2: like a new the. 1172 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,880 Speaker 3: Golden era hockey renaissance. Yeah, yeah, a hockey renaissance. 1173 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,120 Speaker 5: Olympics next year too, huh, Olympics next year. This formation 1174 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 5: is really gonna be that one two punch honestly. 1175 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, they timed it at perfect with the four nation 1176 00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 3: thing because now you've got Olympics, which always gives his 1177 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,080 Speaker 3: fucking cheers, and playoff hockey's coming up, so you're gonna 1178 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:30,320 Speaker 3: get this and this back off. 1179 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,200 Speaker 2: Betman gets so much flack and I don't know if 1180 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 2: it's just a thing where like all the all all 1181 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 2: the guys who run the leagues, the commissioners get it. 1182 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,799 Speaker 2: But as much as flack as he takes, he's done 1183 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 2: an exceptional job along with the league, the players association, 1184 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 2: the alumni to put it in a position where it 1185 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,479 Speaker 2: is now. It'd been nine years since hockey had best 1186 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,759 Speaker 2: on best for the COVID reason, and then at one 1187 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 2: point they just couldn't reach an agreement on an insurance situation. 1188 00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,520 Speaker 2: But you see, yeah, you seem to know quite a 1189 00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 2: bit of what's going on. 1190 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 5: Since the Crosby Golden goal was there was there a 1191 00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:04,839 Speaker 5: World Cup. 1192 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,440 Speaker 2: They did form a World Cup where they had like 1193 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:11,000 Speaker 2: an under twenty five team. So it wasn't necessarily that traditional, 1194 00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 2: but the fact that they did it the first one 1195 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:17,239 Speaker 2: in nine years, McDavid and Crosby were able to put 1196 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 2: on Team Canada Jersey together. People want to act like 1197 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,360 Speaker 2: it's a maybe, like call an All Star game or 1198 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:25,680 Speaker 2: this makeshift event, But those are the four leading hockey 1199 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 2: nations outside of Russia. What's that they're they're on timeout? Yeah, 1200 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,360 Speaker 2: I don't for that's that's for other political reasons that 1201 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 2: I don't really feel to dive into the legs on. 1202 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,840 Speaker 2: But they end up having this thing the year before 1203 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,560 Speaker 2: the Olympics in order to kind of just really propel 1204 00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,200 Speaker 2: it and get people anticipated for what will be an incredible, 1205 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 2: incredible event in Italy. So hockey is on a heater 1206 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,720 Speaker 2: right now and it couldn't be in a better place. 1207 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: It couldn't be in a better place. Tyler, do you 1208 00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,319 Speaker 1: want to ask your Pittsburgh stuff for before? 1209 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,160 Speaker 5: Since before I can remember, you were a part the 1210 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 5: organization right at the start of the crosbyt Gino Latang Flower. Yeah, 1211 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,600 Speaker 5: can you just can you in the organization in the building, 1212 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 5: could you see that was coming? 1213 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, it was kind of like I'm sure 1214 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,960 Speaker 2: that you dealt with Tom. That was my first experience 1215 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 2: with playing with a guy who was obsessed with the game. 1216 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 2: And Sid would come to the rink every day, and 1217 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 2: the way that he would prepare, the way that he 1218 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 2: would be so focused when the drill was being drawn up. 1219 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,080 Speaker 2: He would be the first guy in line and he 1220 00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 2: would set the tone to every single drill and if 1221 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 2: the level wasn't at the level, he would be barking. 1222 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,799 Speaker 2: And even if I was the second guy in line, 1223 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 2: gino at Guenny Malklin, he'd come in and he'd be like, 1224 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 2: Bizz back in the line. We're fucking set in the tone. 1225 00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:48,440 Speaker 2: So to watch of Guenny Malkin, Crosby, Marc Andre Florey, 1226 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:51,239 Speaker 2: who's still playing all kind of playing, it's crazy. Let 1227 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 2: tang and the enthusiasm they also brought to the rink, 1228 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 2: you just knew that it was just a matter of 1229 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 2: time before they hoisted the cup and really saved the 1230 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:01,160 Speaker 2: team from probably moving. 1231 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 3: So but they were going to move the Penguins. Don't 1232 00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 3: they love the Penguins in Pittsburgh. 1233 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 4: It was just a dark time, right, Like it was like. 1234 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,000 Speaker 3: One of the isn't that like one of the most historic. 1235 00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,839 Speaker 2: Yes, because of Mario and Yoger and what they'd done. 1236 00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,920 Speaker 2: But you know, unfortunately they were reaching their dog days. 1237 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,600 Speaker 2: Mario was retiring, and that that lottery ball where they 1238 00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 2: won and they got Sidney Crosby changed at all, and 1239 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 2: then the following year they got Malcolm and actually the 1240 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,879 Speaker 2: year before that it was my draft when they ended 1241 00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,600 Speaker 2: up picking Marc Andre Fleury at number one overall. So 1242 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:42,000 Speaker 2: they were fortunate enough to get those spots in the draft. Yeah, 1243 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,720 Speaker 2: Jordan Stall was huge. He was a great third line 1244 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 2: center for them at a young age when they ended 1245 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 2: up winning it. So it was just a perfect time. 1246 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 2: And actually what was cool about it. The year that 1247 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 2: I was drafted was three and I got to go 1248 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,799 Speaker 2: to training camp where it was one of marios, if 1249 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 2: not his last year, so I got to do training 1250 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 2: camp with Mario Lemux and share the ice of I 1251 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,840 Speaker 2: was so fucking nervous. I was in his group in 1252 00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 2: training camp and I'll never forget. We were doing this 1253 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,080 Speaker 2: easy drill where the defenseman rounds the net and at 1254 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 2: this time I was still a d and all you 1255 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 2: had to do was. 1256 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 3: Was hit the winger along the wall. 1257 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 2: It was a fifteen foot fucking pass and I rounded 1258 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 2: the net and it was Mario and I missed him 1259 00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 2: by about twenty feet and they had to blow down 1260 00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,720 Speaker 2: the drill and we had to restart, and I. 1261 00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,480 Speaker 3: Was so embarrassed. Did you say anything like what's up? Kid? No? No, 1262 00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:30,120 Speaker 3: he was so cool about it. 1263 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,400 Speaker 2: You know. It was Eddie Ulcik was a coach at 1264 00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 2: the time, and so thankfully the next time I did it, 1265 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:37,880 Speaker 2: I hit his tape. But I'll never forget. He must 1266 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 2: have had a golf match after the practice and we 1267 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 2: didn't have the scrimmage that day. So normally you bag 1268 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,320 Speaker 2: skate when you don't you know what to bag skate was, 1269 00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 2: and to practice like lineup nopucks, just conditioning and yeah, 1270 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 2: ed Zoe was our coach at the time. He was like, 1271 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,920 Speaker 2: all right, boys, great practice, great pace today, We're just 1272 00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 2: gonna do a little skate. And then Mario was like 1273 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,360 Speaker 2: and He's like, guess that the now we're good and 1274 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,840 Speaker 2: the Edge's like great practice today, boys, enjoy yourselves, play 1275 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,200 Speaker 2: rebound if you want, and have a great day. And 1276 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 2: that was like I was like, what, Like, I've never 1277 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,800 Speaker 2: seen anything like that, And just Mario's aura and and 1278 00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 2: and seeing him around was was just like something I'll 1279 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: never forget. So my time in Pittsburgh, as much as 1280 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,680 Speaker 2: it was in the minors and in even the EHL, 1281 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 2: I was just grateful to spend that little a time 1282 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 2: around those legends. 1283 00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 3: You got to be around some fucking legend legends. 1284 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,640 Speaker 4: I'll never forget you're. 1285 00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,440 Speaker 3: Still around legend, You're you're a legend. 1286 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 2: So uh no, uh the Afgheny malk and that was 1287 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 2: the year. I want to say he might have won 1288 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: the cont that first year. 1289 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:44,040 Speaker 5: He won the Heart too. 1290 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:47,200 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he was just on fire. And when 1291 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 2: you do an entry level contract in the NHL, you're 1292 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:53,200 Speaker 2: able to get bonuses. So that following training camp, I 1293 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 2: was still on the team and we're riding the bike 1294 00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,800 Speaker 2: and then this Frank Bernomo, who was like the PR guy, 1295 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: he comes off and ops an envelope and you could 1296 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 2: see once he opened it of Guinea Malklm's face lit 1297 00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 2: up and I was like, what's going on over there? 1298 00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,560 Speaker 3: And he handed over and. 1299 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 2: It was like a million dollar check that he'd gotten 1300 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 2: for all his bonuses. And I was playing in the 1301 00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 2: A at the time, making peanuts, and I just like, 1302 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,840 Speaker 2: I'll never forget, and I think. A few days later, 1303 00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 2: his nine to eleven poor showed up, Like this guy 1304 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 2: is just zipping around town. No way a cop would 1305 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,960 Speaker 2: pull him over because they probably knew it was Gino. 1306 00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,480 Speaker 2: So just just living legends and a silly time in 1307 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 2: my life. 1308 00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 5: Oh my god, have you ever around when his parents 1309 00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 5: would show up? 1310 00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:36,000 Speaker 2: I was not there, But that was when the iconic 1311 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 2: series that he had against the Carolina Hurricane. Oh that 1312 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,120 Speaker 2: backhanded going and when he had the hat trick that 1313 00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 2: game and he scored that wrap around goal he went 1314 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,720 Speaker 2: around the net and then he just like did like 1315 00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 2: a spinner am of backhand top cheese, and his mom's 1316 00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 2: crying in the stands and everybody's. 1317 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,040 Speaker 4: Like chanting, Geneo, Geneo. 1318 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 2: And yeah, I actually unfortunately I was in the A 1319 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,680 Speaker 2: at the time then and we were in playoffs and 1320 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:01,960 Speaker 2: I got hit ass over tea kettle. So I had 1321 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 2: a guy hit me low and high, and it just 1322 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 2: so happens the guy who hit me high, he stepped 1323 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 2: on my wrist, and so I was in getting surgery 1324 01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 2: because it cut my like tendons in my You. 1325 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 3: Could die that way, they say. Usually if you want 1326 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 3: to kill yourself, slit your wrists. 1327 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 2: But I got up and I saw the person in 1328 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,160 Speaker 2: the front row. So we were in a playoff series 1329 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 2: against the Hershey Bears, and their NHL team was the 1330 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 2: Washington Capitals, and Pittsburgh was playing Washington in the second round. 1331 01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:32,880 Speaker 2: That was always the biggest rivalry. It was OVI and 1332 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 2: Sid where they would have to hatching games and it 1333 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,640 Speaker 2: would go to game seven. It was like, so good 1334 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 2: for the game. These guys carry the league forever. And 1335 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 2: so you know, I was in the a I got 1336 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 2: my wrist stepped on and I got up and I 1337 01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 2: could see the people in the front row grabbing their 1338 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:49,400 Speaker 2: mouth being like oh my god. And I had blood 1339 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 2: on my jersey. So I'm like patting my head, looking 1340 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 2: at my hand, like what's bleeding? And then I looked 1341 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 2: at my other hand and it just squirting out blood. 1342 01:00:57,080 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 2: And we had a medic on the team who'd went 1343 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 2: to like the I forget what war. It was like 1344 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,080 Speaker 2: like one of one of the stores or something, one 1345 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,040 Speaker 2: of those where he that was like the least of 1346 01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 2: what he'd seen. So fortunately I went down the tunnel 1347 01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:13,880 Speaker 2: with a thread and needle. He closed it off. I 1348 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 2: was able to get to the hospital and they shipped 1349 01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 2: me off to Pittsburgh. So I was there for that 1350 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 2: series for a couple of games when they were playing 1351 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 2: against Washington. 1352 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 4: That was that iconic series. 1353 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Story, hat trick game, the dueling hat trick, I want 1354 01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,000 Speaker 2: to say, was in Washington, but I was watching it 1355 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 2: on a TV when I was in Pittsburgh. And then 1356 01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 2: they ended up coming back to Pittsburgh for I think 1357 01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 2: it was like game six or something like that. So 1358 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 2: just a crazy time and to be in the Pittsburgh organization. 1359 01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:42,920 Speaker 5: Energy like in the old Iglue. 1360 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 2: The ego was unbelievable, and the acoustics were perfect as 1361 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 2: shitty as the dressing rooms were and whatever the facility, 1362 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,440 Speaker 2: who who gave a fuck? It was iconic and I 1363 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 2: didn't care just because of the vibe in that arena. 1364 01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,720 Speaker 2: It was awesome. Sucks they had to tear it down. 1365 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,160 Speaker 2: But you know, I don't like the way they build 1366 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,800 Speaker 2: these new rinks. There's not enough character in my opinion. 1367 01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 2: I like when they when they do them a little 1368 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:11,720 Speaker 2: different geez. But yeah, I know we kind of got 1369 01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 2: off the rails there. 1370 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,000 Speaker 5: Thank you for humoring me. You're the first penguin on 1371 01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:17,200 Speaker 5: our show in one hundred episodes, so thank you. 1372 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was, like I said, from Massachusetts, and 1373 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 3: the guy's a Penguins fan. 1374 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 5: I like the animal and my penguin. My parents like 1375 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,120 Speaker 5: spent some time in Pittsburgh. They lived in Swickly for. 1376 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 3: A little bit. 1377 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's also Mario and it was Yager my number 1378 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,320 Speaker 5: growing up in the middle. 1379 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mario was another guy just like Gretzky where they 1380 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,280 Speaker 2: would have been very close in points if he stayed 1381 01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 2: healthy and he didn't deal with the cancer and and 1382 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 2: the back issues, and like Mario was just badass man. 1383 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 2: He would show up like I don't I don't know 1384 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,640 Speaker 2: how much training he was doing in the off season, 1385 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,760 Speaker 2: but he'd be ripping heaters and fucking goal out there, 1386 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 2: like two goals to assist, like it was easy. 1387 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 4: How big of a legend are you? 1388 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:55,880 Speaker 2: You know? 1389 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,640 Speaker 3: I see it a lot with these hockey guys. Man, 1390 01:02:58,880 --> 01:02:59,680 Speaker 3: I went out. 1391 01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:03,560 Speaker 1: I I just remember going out with you guys, and 1392 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: you guys would have a game the next day. I 1393 01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:09,320 Speaker 1: would be in like offseason training, like stressing, like, man, 1394 01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be able to run tomorrow for team run. 1395 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: These guys go out and fucking play hockey The next day, 1396 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,560 Speaker 1: he dialed Savages Savages. We'll be right back after this 1397 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: quick break. 1398 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:21,800 Speaker 3: Let's let's go back into time. 1399 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: This is a segment where we go back into time 1400 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: around where the game took place. We talk over pop culture. 1401 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a little weird because this happened 1402 01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: fucking last week. So February twenty first, twenty twenty five. 1403 01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,520 Speaker 2: Oh, it's funny because it has the fiftieth anniversary of 1404 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 2: Saturday at Live. Wayne was supposed to go to that. 1405 01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,080 Speaker 2: We talk about him being the ambassador he was when 1406 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,960 Speaker 2: he came to LA. He became so popular he ended 1407 01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 2: up hosting Saturday at Live one time. So he got 1408 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 2: invited to that. He unfortunately didn't make it, but he 1409 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,480 Speaker 2: had TNT right, Yeah, he had tntdn T. 1410 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:54,480 Speaker 1: Fiftieth Anniversary Saturday Live last week, White Lotus Season three. 1411 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:55,040 Speaker 3: You watch that. 1412 01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,680 Speaker 2: I don't watch television. I should get watch more, but 1413 01:03:58,760 --> 01:03:59,919 Speaker 2: I just don't watch TV. 1414 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:01,320 Speaker 3: What do you do at night? 1415 01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,160 Speaker 2: I just, uh, I'm just so invested in hockey and 1416 01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:08,560 Speaker 2: and trying to be on top of it all. I'm 1417 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,960 Speaker 2: a bit of a hockey junkie, and yeah, I don't know. 1418 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 2: I just uh, I don't watch TV for whatever reason. 1419 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,040 Speaker 2: But you recommend White Lotus. 1420 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,880 Speaker 5: I don't know, it's pretty good. 1421 01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,720 Speaker 2: I did the Breaking Bad I did, Uh what other one? 1422 01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:24,959 Speaker 2: I think one of the best series of all time 1423 01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 2: was the one that Woody Harrelson was in True Detectives. 1424 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 2: Was at season two season one? That was probably the 1425 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:33,640 Speaker 2: best show I've ever watched. 1426 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:38,240 Speaker 3: Who was the guy yesterday at La Skate? Oh? 1427 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:44,320 Speaker 5: Taylor Kish was really good at you like that Moegs 1428 01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 5: from Yes He was so good yesterday. 1429 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:49,840 Speaker 4: Okay, I saw a skill. 1430 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:51,280 Speaker 3: There's three or four actors. 1431 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,480 Speaker 5: I'm like that guy and Lee the guy from Chorsey 1432 01:04:53,560 --> 01:04:54,280 Speaker 5: to watch. 1433 01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So I'm good buddies with Terry Ryan, like 1434 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 2: Terry Yes, Teddy Purcell who played for the La Kings, 1435 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:05,440 Speaker 2: He's good buddies with this Terry Ryan. And he's like 1436 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,360 Speaker 2: this folk hero back in Newfoundland. And he wasn't on 1437 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,320 Speaker 2: Shoresy yet, like he just retired and was kind of 1438 01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 2: trying to find his way. And Teddy Purcell said, you know, 1439 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,320 Speaker 2: this guy is a character. You need to get him 1440 01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,120 Speaker 2: on your podcast. And we got him on. And I 1441 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,760 Speaker 2: think that Jared Kiso had found out about him because 1442 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: of it, and he'd already been doing a little bit 1443 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:28,960 Speaker 2: of acting as well, So it kind of just propelled 1444 01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,560 Speaker 2: this career that he's now on. He's doing Shoresy. He 1445 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:36,120 Speaker 2: ended up playing another game in the EHL after many 1446 01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 2: years of being retired, so he's just become kind of 1447 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,479 Speaker 2: this like folklore hero. 1448 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,600 Speaker 4: He looks looks the part Terry. 1449 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 3: He played it all last night like he was playing 1450 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 3: in character, like booing the fans, and I was like, what. 1451 01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 2: The ten Hitchcock is his name on ten inch Cock? Yes, 1452 01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,480 Speaker 2: the playoff of it on Shoorsy, But just an unreal guy. 1453 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:57,360 Speaker 3: He's good handles. 1454 01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:00,400 Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, I absolutely love the KHL episodes. 1455 01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,920 Speaker 3: You guys do this is incredible. 1456 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 5: Anytime you get guys on that played in the KS 1457 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 5: incredible stuff. 1458 01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when we get him back from guys who 1459 01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,480 Speaker 2: played in the Super League before it turned into the KHL. 1460 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, the ship that they got going on in 1461 01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,320 Speaker 2: Russia is just gnarly. One guy told the story about 1462 01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 2: how he would go on the road trip, he would 1463 01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,360 Speaker 2: come back and like his his like furniture would be 1464 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 2: a little off, so he thought he had ghosts in 1465 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,040 Speaker 2: his apartment and he got injured on the road one 1466 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:27,400 Speaker 2: time where he told the coach, hey, my Groin's hanging 1467 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,840 Speaker 2: on by a thread, like I can't play. So they're like, well, 1468 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 2: we're not going to bring you on the rest of 1469 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,160 Speaker 2: the week and a half of the road trip. So 1470 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,000 Speaker 2: they flew him back and he tried to open up 1471 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 2: his apartment and the dead bolt was on. A family 1472 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 2: would be living in his apartment when he was on 1473 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,760 Speaker 2: the road. He had no idea. So that's why the 1474 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,800 Speaker 2: in Russia. In Russia, just the shit that was. Well, 1475 01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:48,480 Speaker 2: they would go on a gold rout a couple of games, 1476 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,760 Speaker 2: they got shut out practice time, Hey boys, everybody on 1477 01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:54,480 Speaker 2: the ice early, they'd slaughter like a goat or like 1478 01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:57,680 Speaker 2: a lamb on the ice, slit the throat, blood all 1479 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,440 Speaker 2: out in the crease. They'd cook up the lamb after practice, 1480 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,240 Speaker 2: eat it, and that that would cure the goal scoring drought. 1481 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 2: So just the shit they had going on. 1482 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,920 Speaker 1: The Eastern Europeans, bro like the Russians, any kind you 1483 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,240 Speaker 1: anytime you hear a stand on something, one of the 1484 01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: Kakistans of these stands, of that stand, they're fighting bears. 1485 01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,520 Speaker 2: They're showing up to pick up the guys at the 1486 01:07:16,520 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 2: airport with Ak forty sevens. 1487 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,360 Speaker 3: I mean standard in those countries. 1488 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:21,360 Speaker 4: The one of the owners. 1489 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,120 Speaker 2: One time he didn't think the ref was calling a 1490 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:24,800 Speaker 2: good game, so he came down on the bench and. 1491 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 3: He killed him. 1492 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,280 Speaker 4: He threatened his family. I thought he killed him. No 1493 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,400 Speaker 4: may maybe after the game. 1494 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if this ref has ever been seen 1495 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,919 Speaker 2: or heard from again, but at least at the time. 1496 01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 2: Another one of the one of the owners coming in 1497 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 2: the room with an AK forty seven like, yelling at 1498 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 2: the guys for not playing hard enough. It was guys 1499 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,720 Speaker 2: getting paid cash at practice, and then they'd come back 1500 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:49,240 Speaker 2: after and the duffel bag they got paid in was gone. 1501 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:53,240 Speaker 2: Just guys flying back home goalies where they would take 1502 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 2: all the stuffing out of their pads, put the cash 1503 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:58,000 Speaker 2: in there, and then stuff like sew it back up 1504 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,120 Speaker 2: and fly back with the cash so they didn't the 1505 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 2: pay tax on it and get it out of there. 1506 01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,560 Speaker 3: Now is it American cash or is it? 1507 01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,440 Speaker 4: I think that they were paying them in US dollars 1508 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,440 Speaker 4: these players, so. 1509 01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:11,439 Speaker 3: Cash is king? All right, Let's break down the game. 1510 01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,600 Speaker 5: This team USA team Quick with It, led by Mike Selvin. 1511 01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,920 Speaker 5: The twenty three man roster had a saw mix events 1512 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,679 Speaker 5: and young Bucks. This team featured two sets of brothers 1513 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,479 Speaker 5: and six sets of NHL teammates, notable dudes Austin Matthews, 1514 01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:28,879 Speaker 5: the Tucks, Jack Eichel, Jake Gunsel, Connor Hellibuck, and Charlie McAvoy. 1515 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 5: It's an all star team, so there's more names. 1516 01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:32,840 Speaker 3: But it's an all star team. But we didn't have 1517 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,720 Speaker 3: our best all stars out there because McAvoy had a 1518 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,679 Speaker 3: fucking shoulder thing. What's this? What's this? Got an infection? 1519 01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:38,679 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1520 01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:41,599 Speaker 2: So from according to the Boston Bruins, they released a statement. 1521 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if they were necessarily crazy about how 1522 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,639 Speaker 2: it was handled. So it escalated to now where he's 1523 01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:49,439 Speaker 2: going to miss more time. They said it was an 1524 01:08:49,439 --> 01:08:52,720 Speaker 2: affection in his shoulder. That's the only details that I got. See. 1525 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:55,360 Speaker 1: This is the this is the ship that could get 1526 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 1: the all staring games fucked up. 1527 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:01,439 Speaker 3: Your star player goes down. Yeah, yeah, you don't want 1528 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:03,120 Speaker 3: this is it? You know what I mean? This is 1529 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,760 Speaker 3: the only this is why, this is what all the 1530 01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,920 Speaker 3: other people are going to say, like, this is why 1531 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,920 Speaker 3: the other leagues don't play their best players all time. 1532 01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:11,040 Speaker 3: I think it would. 1533 01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 2: Be shortsighted to not understand what this did for the game. 1534 01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:18,000 Speaker 2: That is part of the discrepancy and why the owners 1535 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:22,200 Speaker 2: push back on doing the Olympics. The Olympics don't pay 1536 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:25,400 Speaker 2: the NHL anything to use their resources, so these owners 1537 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 2: are worried about these guys going and all of a sudden, 1538 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 2: you got a guy like Jack Hughes, Well what if 1539 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,879 Speaker 2: he goes down where you're trying to make a playoff 1540 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:35,040 Speaker 2: push with the New Jersey Devils. So I thought, in 1541 01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,799 Speaker 2: a perfect world, there maybe could be some financial kickback 1542 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,360 Speaker 2: considering what hockey is doing for the Olympics or these 1543 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 2: one off events. But I guess the viewership and the 1544 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:47,760 Speaker 2: exposure to the game should be enough. 1545 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 3: Now, how do you describe this US team? Unreal? 1546 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 2: They got, they got a little bit of everything. The 1547 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 2: biggest thing about the US is the guys that they 1548 01:09:56,479 --> 01:09:59,439 Speaker 2: still have coming up right, And there's a lot of 1549 01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,880 Speaker 2: young guys on this roster, like Brock Faber, very young 1550 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,160 Speaker 2: defenseman for the Minnesota while where if you would have 1551 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 2: watched him play you would have been like, this guy's 1552 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,679 Speaker 2: a thirty year old season vet. Another guy Jacob Slavin, 1553 01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,240 Speaker 2: like these guys are were not household names for this tournament, 1554 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:17,960 Speaker 2: who are just at exceptional exceptional players. Zach Wrensky's still young. 1555 01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,120 Speaker 2: Quinn Hughes, I want to think. I think he's like, 1556 01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,320 Speaker 2: what twenty five years old? He's not that old, maybe 1557 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:26,320 Speaker 2: twenty six. So that's what really stands out to me 1558 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 2: is just where USA Hockey is heading and the guys 1559 01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:31,080 Speaker 2: that they have on this roster. 1560 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 3: What's prime age for hockey? 1561 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,120 Speaker 2: It might be like this with football, but there's it's 1562 01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,960 Speaker 2: slowly going down or course or quickly moving like down 1563 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,639 Speaker 2: in age. I would say prime would probably be about 1564 01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,040 Speaker 2: twenty eight years old now. 1565 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: And I'd say that that's when I was at my 1566 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,040 Speaker 1: athletic prime. Yeah, twenty eight, twenty nine, twenty eight. It's 1567 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,599 Speaker 1: when your man strength hits your your knowledge. 1568 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:56,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty much the peak. And I think 1569 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,960 Speaker 2: that US are really hitting that stride. The only thing 1570 01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 2: about Canada and now is is Sidney Crosby's on the 1571 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 2: back nine, so that really sucks. Brad mar Shaw's on 1572 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,519 Speaker 2: the back nine. So really this and the Olympics will 1573 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,080 Speaker 2: be oh yeah, exactly, will be a passing of the torch, 1574 01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:17,880 Speaker 2: more so for the Canadians than the Americans. And we 1575 01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 2: did touch on the Russians political climate aside. I think 1576 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:28,320 Speaker 2: it would be a travesty if Russia was not able 1577 01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,439 Speaker 2: to compete in the next Olympics in hockey just because 1578 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 2: of when Crosby and Ovechkin came into the league, there 1579 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,280 Speaker 2: was so much expectation, and these guys have carried the 1580 01:11:37,360 --> 01:11:39,479 Speaker 2: league for twenty years, and you would be. 1581 01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:40,280 Speaker 4: Able to have. 1582 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:49,080 Speaker 2: Malcoln Ovechkin, Bebrovski and some of these older Russian players 1583 01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 2: who have carried the torch for them handing it off 1584 01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 2: to the Capricesovs in the next wave of Russian player 1585 01:11:56,600 --> 01:12:00,000 Speaker 2: and much like Canada, so to not have them involved 1586 01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:04,520 Speaker 2: as a top five hockey nation would would suck specifically 1587 01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 2: for the hockey topic. Like sometimes when I say that 1588 01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,280 Speaker 2: on a podcast like ours, you'll see people commenting like 1589 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:11,839 Speaker 2: there's a reason they're not involved. 1590 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 4: It's like, bro, I don't know what the. 1591 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 2: Fuck is going on with all this warfare and political 1592 01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 2: bullshit politics. Yeah, I got my grade ten. I'm like 1593 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 2: fucking Ricky from Trailer Park Boys for crying out route 1594 01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 2: Like I got three percent on my grade eleven math exam. 1595 01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:28,519 Speaker 4: I fail. I failed. 1596 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 2: I failed my States and Capital's test for crying out loud, 1597 01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:33,640 Speaker 2: So like, don't look at me for that. 1598 01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 4: I just want to see good hockey Canada or of 1599 01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:37,760 Speaker 4: US US US. 1600 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,639 Speaker 3: That's that's understandable. You're not from here. 1601 01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 4: Yeah right, thank you, thank you for back. 1602 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:42,800 Speaker 3: That's understandable. 1603 01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a great guy. 1604 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,280 Speaker 3: I mean, there'd be like I would tell you, there's 1605 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 3: probably fifty percent of the NFL that doesn't know all 1606 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 3: the states and can ree. 1607 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,320 Speaker 2: And and to be fair, I probably i'd probably fail 1608 01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,519 Speaker 2: my territory in province a test too if if we 1609 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:56,439 Speaker 2: had it in Canada. 1610 01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 5: So uh yeah, not the sharpest knife in the drawer. 1611 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,439 Speaker 2: And also well, going back to my concussions, a lot 1612 01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:03,120 Speaker 2: of CT here. 1613 01:13:03,680 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 3: It's a great thing to blame. It's it's a good card. 1614 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 3: As an ex athlete, you'll usually roll on that one. 1615 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,360 Speaker 6: We're gonna name yeah for a living for twelve years 1616 01:13:14,479 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 6: for syllable word ct C T E y C Yeah no, 1617 01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,000 Speaker 6: I meant going earlier. 1618 01:13:22,680 --> 01:13:25,360 Speaker 4: Yeah sorry c T T yeah T. 1619 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 3: How do you describe this Canada team? 1620 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 5: On Team Canada led by John Cooper as usual, this 1621 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 5: is a heck of a roster led by vets Sidney Crosby, 1622 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,840 Speaker 5: Brad marsh On along with three lightning players uh Fords 1623 01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:40,200 Speaker 5: were Stack, Conor McDavid, Nathan McKinnon, Mitch Marner, goaltender Bennington, 1624 01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,799 Speaker 5: just the kid. 1625 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:44,519 Speaker 1: I thought he was. I was watching that game. He 1626 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,400 Speaker 1: had like four or five saves that I was like, 1627 01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 1: this game should be over. Yeah, he had some like 1628 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:54,360 Speaker 1: unreal saves in overtime and late in like the third 1629 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 1: I think, did he not or he just fucking swiped 1630 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:00,800 Speaker 1: that thing you're bang on? 1631 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:02,840 Speaker 2: And and I don't know how many people listening know 1632 01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,519 Speaker 2: his story kind of like my trajectory where he's gotten 1633 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 2: a little bit of trouble and and you know, was 1634 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:12,280 Speaker 2: down in the EHL and Ahl and then eventually he 1635 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 2: got recalled halfway through the year, the year that Saint 1636 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,680 Speaker 2: Louis won the Stanley Cup, and he just went on 1637 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 2: this incredible tear and and uh, he's actually named after 1638 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 2: Michael Jordan. His father named him after Michael Jordan. He 1639 01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,000 Speaker 2: just kind of has that that pedigree where the bigger 1640 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,720 Speaker 2: the moment, the bigger he plays. And uh, he won 1641 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,720 Speaker 2: Game seven in the Boston Garden. Uh, and then you know, 1642 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,080 Speaker 2: since then has had a great career, but he really 1643 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 2: thrives under pressure and those moments where his regular season 1644 01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 2: numbers might not be the best, but if you got 1645 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,639 Speaker 2: one game and you need a goalie in that. That's 1646 01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 2: that's who I'm picking for Team Canada. 1647 01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:50,240 Speaker 3: Nut cutting time. 1648 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 2: That's the guy that's the the been Nasty. They call 1649 01:14:54,120 --> 01:14:56,120 Speaker 2: him the Snowman. I don't need to go into that, 1650 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:58,120 Speaker 2: but he's got a lot of fun nicknames and he's 1651 01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:01,760 Speaker 2: absolute character off the ice, going up top to John 1652 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 2: Cooper obviously won a couple Cups with the Tampa Bay Lightning. 1653 01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,479 Speaker 2: I would compare him to like a hockey's version of 1654 01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:14,120 Speaker 2: Phil Jackson, not you know, ten championships, but so well spoken, 1655 01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 2: so methodical, unreal on the mic, an incredible motivator and 1656 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,599 Speaker 2: just really knows how to manage the egos, you know, 1657 01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,720 Speaker 2: and not to say Canada has egos in the locker room, 1658 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,280 Speaker 2: but when you're when you got Cott Crosby's, the McKinnon's 1659 01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,920 Speaker 2: and the McDavid's and the dogs, you know, you have to, 1660 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 2: you know, find a way to gel all of them together. 1661 01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 2: He is the perfect guy for the job, along with 1662 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:39,160 Speaker 2: Rick Tockett. Remember that I mentioned him being on the panel, Yeah, 1663 01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,720 Speaker 2: he was. He should be a Hall of Famer from 1664 01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:45,920 Speaker 2: a player standpoint. Uh. He actually is the NHL record 1665 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,879 Speaker 2: holder for Gordi Hal Hatricks so a goal and assists 1666 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,160 Speaker 2: in a fight, and he was an absolute nail gun 1667 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 2: when he played, Wow, like he could do it all 1668 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 2: This guy was was a machine. So now he's coaching 1669 01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 2: after doing the panel and he was the assistant. And 1670 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,479 Speaker 2: then the I mean the players we can list off 1671 01:16:02,479 --> 01:16:07,439 Speaker 2: like you just did McDavid, absolute electric factory Crosby. I 1672 01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:11,519 Speaker 2: believe he will go down as a mount Rushmore player. 1673 01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,920 Speaker 2: It's hard because the debate is is you have Gordie Howe, 1674 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:19,800 Speaker 2: you have Bobby or Wayne Gretzky and Mario Lemieux. I 1675 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,400 Speaker 2: don't know who you take off that list, and most 1676 01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 2: people listening might say you're not taking any of them 1677 01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:26,920 Speaker 2: off the list, while then we're chiseling out a fifth 1678 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 2: because Sydney Crosby and what he's able to do as 1679 01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:34,360 Speaker 2: an layer, and fuck chisel on a six once he 1680 01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,759 Speaker 2: breaks the goal record, like I don't know, like maybe 1681 01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,479 Speaker 2: maybe you do a modern day version of it and 1682 01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 2: eventually Cale mccarr will be on it because that's just 1683 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,879 Speaker 2: how good he is. So and then fucking Nathan McKinnon, 1684 01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 2: like you could argue as good as Connor McDavid. Is 1685 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:52,759 Speaker 2: that Nathan McKinnon in the last two year stretch is better. 1686 01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 2: He won the MVP last year. He's got his Stanley Cup. 1687 01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,200 Speaker 2: I believe he did. He win to Konsmith was a 1688 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:05,960 Speaker 2: cal mccarr who got it. But Nathan McKinnon might might 1689 01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:08,719 Speaker 2: win another m v P this year. And to watch 1690 01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:13,680 Speaker 2: him play, much like McDavid. He is ferocious, He gallops 1691 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,920 Speaker 2: on the ice, he will hit guys and he can 1692 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:21,880 Speaker 2: do it all. I actually Bang for Buck would probably 1693 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,639 Speaker 2: put McKinnon's slight edge favorite over who to watch more 1694 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:29,439 Speaker 2: so than McDavid. No disrespect to Connor, like I love Connor. 1695 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:33,040 Speaker 2: I just like the fact that McKinnon he is he's 1696 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,240 Speaker 2: tapped like MJ. Like he's the guy in the locker room, 1697 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter if it's his best friend. If 1698 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 2: he doesn't think you're bringing it that day, he'll be like. 1699 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,360 Speaker 3: What the fuck are you doing? Move the fucking buck, 1700 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,880 Speaker 3: and like that's just how he is. He's the dog. 1701 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:51,320 Speaker 2: He's the dog and everybody has to match his intensity. 1702 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 2: It was good when they had Landeskog on the team 1703 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,000 Speaker 2: because he was a perfect balance in the locker room 1704 01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,519 Speaker 2: guy blue guy to maybe calm him him down a 1705 01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,080 Speaker 2: little bit. But apparently he will not say a word 1706 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,559 Speaker 2: to mccarr, which is actually funny because he's actually younger 1707 01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:07,519 Speaker 2: than him. But that just tells you how big of 1708 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 2: a dog mcar is too. 1709 01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:10,879 Speaker 3: Who's the team asshole? 1710 01:18:14,760 --> 01:18:18,000 Speaker 2: I would say that Marshawn plays a perfect villain and 1711 01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,680 Speaker 2: is a guy who from a veteran standpoint and the 1712 01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 2: fact that he doesn't have to carry the weight as 1713 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,360 Speaker 2: so much of a player in that locker room that 1714 01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 2: we're looking at right now. He's the guy who probably 1715 01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,080 Speaker 2: handles all the media and settles the guy down the best, 1716 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,240 Speaker 2: and is also chirping the most on the bench. 1717 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:36,559 Speaker 3: You don't want you. 1718 01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:41,040 Speaker 2: Don't want Connor or McKinnon having to worry about Josh 1719 01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,439 Speaker 2: with the other team. You want to have guys who 1720 01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:46,600 Speaker 2: are the factors and guys taking the focus away from that. 1721 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:50,679 Speaker 2: I thought hegel did an incredible job against fighting Matthew 1722 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:54,240 Speaker 2: Kuchuck even though he's a little bit undersized, and handle 1723 01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:55,960 Speaker 2: himself well in the media as well. 1724 01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:59,439 Speaker 4: So Canada had its dogs in the lineup. 1725 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,679 Speaker 1: How do you sum up this rivalry Canada US? Now, 1726 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,519 Speaker 1: it's got to be at the highest it's ever been. 1727 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,040 Speaker 2: I think that that hockey is going to do insane 1728 01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 2: numbers at the Olympics in Italy. I also think that 1729 01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:16,960 Speaker 2: this experience of controlling the Best on Best tells me 1730 01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:20,800 Speaker 2: that the NHL doesn't need the Olympics to grow it 1731 01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 2: because you're also in a different time zone. So now 1732 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,559 Speaker 2: it's inconveniencing North America, where hockey is at its biggest, 1733 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,360 Speaker 2: and also with the best on Best being either in 1734 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,600 Speaker 2: North America and or Sweden in Finland, you are in 1735 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,720 Speaker 2: the mecca of where hockey can grow the most and 1736 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,679 Speaker 2: the most people are watching. And if you do control 1737 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,920 Speaker 2: at North America, they were starting the Sweden Finland game 1738 01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:50,759 Speaker 2: and the Finland Sweden games even against US and Canada 1739 01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,080 Speaker 2: at one o'clock, so that's prime time for over there. 1740 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,599 Speaker 2: So if I'm the NHL, I focus on making that 1741 01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,800 Speaker 2: World Cup and controlling that and also keeping it North 1742 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 2: American rules where you're not having Olympic ice, you're allowed 1743 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,600 Speaker 2: to fight, because I think that fighting in hockey is 1744 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,960 Speaker 2: what differentiates us from other sports and gives us that 1745 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,639 Speaker 2: added edge. Considering of the four major sports, it's probably 1746 01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:18,080 Speaker 2: at the bottom of the totem pole, but with continuing 1747 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:21,479 Speaker 2: best on Best Olympics and World Cup, I think it 1748 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,400 Speaker 2: can continue to claw away and propel at that audience. 1749 01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,799 Speaker 3: I think your klawon at baseball, bubs, Yeah, baseball's brutal. 1750 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,439 Speaker 3: Baseball and basketball are up for the klon. 1751 01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:33,080 Speaker 2: It's brutal. I think basketball is such a horrible product now. 1752 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,599 Speaker 2: And you know, I think that Lebron and Steph Curry 1753 01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 2: and those guys did a great job of carrying the 1754 01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,560 Speaker 2: league for a long time. But much like the Crosby's 1755 01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,040 Speaker 2: and the Ovi's, they're handing it off in amazing hands. 1756 01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,880 Speaker 2: Whereas I don't know if that's the case in basketball 1757 01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:49,280 Speaker 2: right now. 1758 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:49,960 Speaker 3: I don't know who. 1759 01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,479 Speaker 2: I don't know who the next wave are. And that's 1760 01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:56,680 Speaker 2: no disrespect to the sport. It's just the time is ours, buddy. 1761 01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:57,680 Speaker 3: That is it is. 1762 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:00,639 Speaker 5: Let me do the lead up real quick and blasphe 1763 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:02,960 Speaker 5: this so for a nation's tournament, we all kind of 1764 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:05,280 Speaker 5: know at this point. Newist in Canada played that game 1765 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,759 Speaker 5: beforehand on Saturday night start off with three three fights 1766 01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:13,240 Speaker 5: going in hot, so anticipation for final in Boston was huge. 1767 01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:17,640 Speaker 1: The Trump comments, the boom, this it just all manifested 1768 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,759 Speaker 1: into like this was the biggest game. 1769 01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:26,120 Speaker 2: And also the WWE approach that the Kuchuck brothers took Canadians. 1770 01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:28,560 Speaker 3: Are a little couldn't be a better name away the 1771 01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:32,480 Speaker 3: Christkchuck brothers and Walt. 1772 01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:34,960 Speaker 2: That's what they call him, Keith Kachuck. There was a 1773 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,120 Speaker 2: former Walt Kachuk in the NHL. That's why Keith Chuck's 1774 01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,559 Speaker 2: name nickname became yeah, And I think that people thought 1775 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 2: it was his kid, but it wasn't. He should be 1776 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,479 Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer in his own right. He scored 1777 01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,600 Speaker 2: five hundred goals. He was very impactful in growing the 1778 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:53,360 Speaker 2: game with the ninety six World Cup of Hockey where 1779 01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,040 Speaker 2: US shock Canada and that was another moment that propelled 1780 01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 2: hockey United States and the growth of it here. And 1781 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,439 Speaker 2: just the fact that he passed a torch on to 1782 01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:06,439 Speaker 2: his boys. And Canadians handle it a little bit different. 1783 01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 2: They're a little bit more silent in their approach. They 1784 01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,240 Speaker 2: handle their business as such. But in the States you 1785 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,360 Speaker 2: have to do things differently. If you're hockey, you have 1786 01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,600 Speaker 2: to be a little bit more loud mouthed. So the 1787 01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:18,599 Speaker 2: fact that they were going on and talking about that 1788 01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,920 Speaker 2: group chat and yappin, I love that. I think that 1789 01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 2: that's the WWE approach And I'm so grateful that they 1790 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 2: did it, because there's a reason that it hits sixty 1791 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:29,400 Speaker 2: million viewers, and they're a big part of that. 1792 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 3: Exactly. 1793 01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,519 Speaker 1: Now, you got to explain to us this game goes 1794 01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:36,320 Speaker 1: back and forth. It goes, you know, one Canada, one US. 1795 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:40,639 Speaker 1: Then Canada hits it up again, the US ties it up, 1796 01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:43,759 Speaker 1: they get into ot explain overtime to us or it's. 1797 01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:44,320 Speaker 3: The other way around. 1798 01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:48,920 Speaker 5: The kidding scored first, followed by the to Chuck Kim. 1799 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brady could chuck and he wasn't even supposed to 1800 01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:54,599 Speaker 2: play because he was a little banged up, as well 1801 01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,000 Speaker 2: as Matthew being banged up. And Brady scores his goal 1802 01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,639 Speaker 2: when obviously he's going to the blue pain and the crease. 1803 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,839 Speaker 2: And I thought that Austin Matthews had two great assists 1804 01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,800 Speaker 2: and he played a tremendous game. And then USA took 1805 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,639 Speaker 2: the lead. This kid, Jake Sanderson, who wasn't even supposed 1806 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,760 Speaker 2: to be at the tournament, another unbelievable youngster, took Quinn 1807 01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:16,799 Speaker 2: Hughes's spot, scores the goal ahead goal. And then Mitchie Marner, 1808 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,280 Speaker 2: a Canadian kid who had a lot of pressure coming 1809 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,160 Speaker 2: on to him in this game because he'd never really 1810 01:23:23,200 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 2: lived up to a big moment and he ends up 1811 01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 2: making a great playover to Sam the Bennett Menace, who's 1812 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 2: a savage on the ice. He's a savage. He's the 1813 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 2: one who sucker punched Marshawn that series. 1814 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, who got. 1815 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,680 Speaker 4: Away with it? And then that set the table for 1816 01:23:36,800 --> 01:23:37,519 Speaker 4: overtime and. 1817 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,040 Speaker 3: Now they're playing on the same team. 1818 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 2: McDavid needed a moment in a game like this, and 1819 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,799 Speaker 2: you know he got that beautiful pass for Mitchie Marner 1820 01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:48,800 Speaker 2: and the slot and you even said it though, going 1821 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:51,800 Speaker 2: back before that, Bennington made three four ten bel saves 1822 01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:53,040 Speaker 2: where this game should have been over. 1823 01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:55,400 Speaker 1: I thought we were winning like four times. And can 1824 01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:57,320 Speaker 1: you explain overtime? What's the world is a golden goals? 1825 01:23:57,360 --> 01:24:00,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, it changed because in the round raw and 1826 01:24:00,200 --> 01:24:01,880 Speaker 2: it was three on three, which is a rule that 1827 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:04,240 Speaker 2: the NHL adopted to make overtime more. 1828 01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:07,560 Speaker 3: Excited, names quicker, probably faster, quicker. 1829 01:24:07,200 --> 01:24:10,479 Speaker 2: And more games are ending in overtime as opposed to shootout, 1830 01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:13,320 Speaker 2: which I don't like to shootout. So but when you 1831 01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:16,000 Speaker 2: go to the gold medal game, you actually go back 1832 01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,719 Speaker 2: to five on five, the golden goal, first goal to score. 1833 01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:22,200 Speaker 2: It's it's game over. And that's the way that hockey 1834 01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:24,600 Speaker 2: should be played, especially in a moment like this. And uh, 1835 01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:28,240 Speaker 2: you know, Connor McDavid, they had an ozone draw. They 1836 01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 2: made a great play along the wall from Cale mccarr 1837 01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 2: over to Mitch Marner and he fed McDavid for that 1838 01:24:33,240 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 2: moment and he didn't. 1839 01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:36,799 Speaker 3: Miss so and he was silent the whole game. 1840 01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,240 Speaker 2: He did not have a great game. He seemed a 1841 01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,960 Speaker 2: little bit nervous, his reads were off, and he self 1842 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,040 Speaker 2: admittedly said that in his postgame press conference. But what 1843 01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 2: do big, big players do? Tom Brady didn't have a 1844 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,120 Speaker 2: good first half against the Falcons. You didn't either. You 1845 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:54,240 Speaker 2: guys were dog shit shit. But you guys went in 1846 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:57,679 Speaker 2: the locker room, you figured things out. Boom boom. 1847 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,799 Speaker 3: You guys, not how you start, always how you finished finished. Baby. 1848 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 5: So, Canada won the first ever Four Nations face off 1849 01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 5: three to two in overtime. Nath McKinnon went MVP National 1850 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 5: Emergency in Canada avoided yep. 1851 01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, Now what does this game mean winning for Canada 1852 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 3: winning the first four Nations? Where this could go? 1853 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, is it is it important for Canada, the 1854 01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:24,200 Speaker 1: inventor of the sport, to win the first one. 1855 01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,719 Speaker 3: Just for the record, so this is going to go forever. 1856 01:25:26,920 --> 01:25:29,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, based on on on ridicule in the amount of 1857 01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,360 Speaker 2: comments that would have kime after God. 1858 01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 3: Forbid, America would have won the first four nations. 1859 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:35,639 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1860 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:37,439 Speaker 2: I just think it had more to do with the 1861 01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 2: fact that, like Canada is is, you know, they're not 1862 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,960 Speaker 2: struggling big time right now, but the economy is in 1863 01:25:43,000 --> 01:25:45,080 Speaker 2: a bit of a dip. Our dollars not doing good. 1864 01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,360 Speaker 2: We're changing, we're changing leadership very soon. And you know, 1865 01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:51,840 Speaker 2: hockey is the one thing that we get to fall 1866 01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,280 Speaker 2: back on, and that's our sport. We feel like we're 1867 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,439 Speaker 2: the creators of it. If you look at the long 1868 01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,000 Speaker 2: history of it, we've been very dominant, especially against the 1869 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,479 Speaker 2: United States, and you know, that's the one thing we 1870 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,360 Speaker 2: can hang our hat on. And when you guys came 1871 01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:07,080 Speaker 2: into our building in Canada in Montreal, the mecca of 1872 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:10,559 Speaker 2: hockey along with Toronto, and you punch us in the 1873 01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,840 Speaker 2: face and then won that game and ran us out 1874 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:16,600 Speaker 2: of the building, we needed a response. So we end 1875 01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:19,840 Speaker 2: up winning that gold medal game. But really, as of 1876 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,719 Speaker 2: right now, it's one one and that's why the table 1877 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,360 Speaker 2: has been set so perfectly for the Olympics, Like this 1878 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 2: isn't over. This is just the beginning of what's about 1879 01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 2: to happen. It's just the beginning, just the beginning. 1880 01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,360 Speaker 3: Let's name this game, and let's score this game, and 1881 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,000 Speaker 3: let's see where it ranks in our top one hundred 1882 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,280 Speaker 3: games or one hundred games that we've fucking done those. 1883 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,000 Speaker 3: We're close to one hundred games. Name of the game, 1884 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:45,040 Speaker 3: the Four Nations Final, Oh, Canada, suck it. 1885 01:26:45,840 --> 01:26:48,720 Speaker 4: Suck at kachuck is kind of a funny ring to it. 1886 01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,960 Speaker 3: The McDavid game, the goal in the garden, our game, 1887 01:26:54,280 --> 01:26:57,080 Speaker 3: just the beginning. Or if you have a name that 1888 01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,559 Speaker 3: you want to call this game, what do you want 1889 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:00,000 Speaker 3: to call it? 1890 01:27:02,080 --> 01:27:05,400 Speaker 2: I kept saying, who's your daddy? Because who's your daddy? 1891 01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:06,040 Speaker 3: Game? Yeah? 1892 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 4: We made you our little bitch, all. 1893 01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:13,160 Speaker 3: Right, put it out? Yeah, who's your daddy? Game? Yeah? 1894 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:15,880 Speaker 1: Score the game? Is this the greatest game of all time? 1895 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:20,880 Speaker 1: Let's score it? Biz stakes zero to ten decimals? 1896 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:24,719 Speaker 3: Okay? The stakes of this Four Nations Final game? 1897 01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 2: Oh, I would say ten, ten out of ten. 1898 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:30,040 Speaker 4: It was. 1899 01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,760 Speaker 2: It was the most talked about hockey game since the 1900 01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,519 Speaker 2: twenty ten Olympics. And I want to say that it 1901 01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:39,280 Speaker 2: might have surpassed those numbers. 1902 01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:44,000 Speaker 1: So ten, you know what, I have to agree, this 1903 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:45,720 Speaker 1: is gonna be a high score for me. A nine 1904 01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:50,080 Speaker 1: to two, A nine point two, I mean, we haven't. 1905 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:54,000 Speaker 1: This is the most excited I've been about hockey in 1906 01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:56,040 Speaker 1: a long time since watching Might we had. 1907 01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:59,240 Speaker 2: Trump was talking shit, calling us the fifty first state. 1908 01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:01,280 Speaker 2: This meant every thing were so. 1909 01:28:01,320 --> 01:28:04,559 Speaker 5: Much geopolitical nature. Always raise that we did the miracle 1910 01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,800 Speaker 5: on ice game with Jim Craig, and that's always gets 1911 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:07,880 Speaker 5: into that high ten. 1912 01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:12,160 Speaker 2: I guess what was going on geopolitically then war? Okay, 1913 01:28:12,200 --> 01:28:14,120 Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm not a history but and I wasn't 1914 01:28:14,120 --> 01:28:16,120 Speaker 2: born yet, so my apology. 1915 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,280 Speaker 5: Back at home had an eight point six. I had 1916 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,439 Speaker 5: eight point four. It's still it's international best and best. 1917 01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,800 Speaker 5: It's still a brand new tournament, right, It's still not 1918 01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 5: a gold medal. I think East been was pumping its 1919 01:28:23,840 --> 01:28:25,840 Speaker 5: tires a little too much at the end, but it 1920 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 5: was still awesome, and it was so much better than 1921 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,519 Speaker 5: the All Star Game would have been. 1922 01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:32,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's what I think that That's what a lot 1923 01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:34,599 Speaker 2: of people had a hard time grasping is it was like, oh, 1924 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 2: it's kind of this like makeshift fluff event to like 1925 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,800 Speaker 2: as a precursor to the Olympics. And also I think 1926 01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,519 Speaker 2: people are sick of the All Star Game. But it 1927 01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,559 Speaker 2: wasn't so much what it was coming in, it's what 1928 01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:46,559 Speaker 2: it evolved became. 1929 01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,320 Speaker 5: Yere texting me on Saturday like, oh my god, people 1930 01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:50,719 Speaker 5: who don't give me about hockey. 1931 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:51,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fun. 1932 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,000 Speaker 3: I text like all seven of my Canadian friends I had, 1933 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,960 Speaker 3: like coming friend he was like worried. 1934 01:28:58,000 --> 01:28:58,640 Speaker 4: He's like, I don't know. 1935 01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,080 Speaker 5: I hope this going turns out. Okay, it's gonna be riose. 1936 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:01,479 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1937 01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:01,680 Speaker 2: Man. 1938 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:05,320 Speaker 3: By the way, I'm technically half Canadian. Oh are you? 1939 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:06,920 Speaker 4: My mother was born in Chicago. 1940 01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 3: My mom was My mom was born in Kitchener, Ontario. 1941 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 4: No ship their Kitchener Rangers Kitchener. Yeah. Wow. 1942 01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 1: So star power zero to ten decimals, Okay, the star 1943 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:19,240 Speaker 1: there's fucking stars everywhere in this building. 1944 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,120 Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean I would say uh, I would 1945 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:28,040 Speaker 2: say uh a nine point five simply because that you know, 1946 01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 2: McAvoy was all line up. Quinn Hughes from my the 1947 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,200 Speaker 2: biggest blessing for hockey would be everybody healthy at the. 1948 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:39,920 Speaker 3: Olympilding Captain honorary captain, honorary captain for USA. 1949 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:43,320 Speaker 2: That's where my buddy said, Hey, like AROZIONI did so 1950 01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:45,720 Speaker 2: much for USA hockey, but you got him against the 1951 01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:48,200 Speaker 2: great one there for Canada. The game was over. We 1952 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:49,840 Speaker 2: knew we had that one in the bag the minute 1953 01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:50,840 Speaker 2: that Wayne walked out. 1954 01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:55,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with a nine. It's gonna be high. 1955 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:56,960 Speaker 5: At eight point nine. I had a nine point seven, 1956 01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:00,240 Speaker 5: just as an homage to Connor McDavid. 1957 01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 3: A nine point that's the highest score. 1958 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:04,320 Speaker 5: Using the best. This is best on best, all right, 1959 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:04,680 Speaker 5: I love it. 1960 01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:05,080 Speaker 3: I love that. 1961 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:06,639 Speaker 5: The only reason it wasn't a perfect ten is if 1962 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,200 Speaker 5: because you know International Russia is not in the mix. 1963 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,840 Speaker 1: Ooh gameplay zero to ten decim was okay, the gameplay 1964 01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:14,519 Speaker 1: you gotta score. 1965 01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:17,920 Speaker 2: So the the game that there was three fights, it 1966 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,919 Speaker 2: kind of lulled off. But the championship game was incredible. 1967 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,280 Speaker 2: Let's go with I'll go with a nine to five 1968 01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:26,160 Speaker 2: to two, four to three always more scoring is a 1969 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,080 Speaker 2: little bit better, but a couple of league changes and 1970 01:30:29,120 --> 01:30:30,360 Speaker 2: over time can't beat it. 1971 01:30:30,479 --> 01:30:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm American. I like to see high scoring. That's why 1972 01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:36,040 Speaker 1: we do that in all of our sports. Our basketball 1973 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:39,240 Speaker 1: is one fifty to one fifty two. Now our football 1974 01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,720 Speaker 1: is sixty to sixty one. I want my hockey to 1975 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:44,720 Speaker 1: be at least twelve ten, so I'm gonna go with 1976 01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:45,080 Speaker 1: the eight. 1977 01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,960 Speaker 5: I want my hockey to be lacrosse jacket a nine 1978 01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:50,280 Speaker 5: point one out of eight point eight. 1979 01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:53,719 Speaker 3: The name of the game the Who's Your Daddy? 1980 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:56,000 Speaker 2: No, I actually got a better name game. Let's say it, 1981 01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 2: Who's your Daddy? Donald? 1982 01:30:59,360 --> 01:30:59,839 Speaker 3: Donald? 1983 01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,320 Speaker 2: Who's gonna get I'm gonna get deported, But I think 1984 01:31:04,360 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 2: it's a hell of a name. 1985 01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 3: Just for anyone out there. Ice, do not come to Brentwood. 1986 01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,200 Speaker 5: I'm sure they we're gonna be here anyway. 1987 01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:14,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the name of the game. We got to score 1988 01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 3: the name well. 1989 01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:18,080 Speaker 2: Through the Donald. I think I'm being petty as ship. Hey, 1990 01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,559 Speaker 2: he could talk his ship, we talk our ship. It's 1991 01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,320 Speaker 2: just sports. But the name is ten out of ten. 1992 01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:27,120 Speaker 2: Suck at Donald. The eleventh Province should. 1993 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,519 Speaker 5: Give it eleven for being the eleventh front. 1994 01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:33,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it. It's pretty funny. It's pretty funny. 1995 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 4: You're gonna be living in Kitchener pretty soon. If you 1996 01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:36,679 Speaker 4: give it a ten. 1997 01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,559 Speaker 3: No, I'm not. I'm gonna give it a ten. Won't 1998 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,760 Speaker 3: give it a ten because I'm American, so I'll give 1999 01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:48,280 Speaker 3: it a seven point eight. I'll take it Jack. 2000 01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,120 Speaker 5: At some point one, I had an eight point seven. 2001 01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:52,519 Speaker 3: What is what is our score? 2002 01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,040 Speaker 5: Final score? Eight point eight nine? Jesus gonna be very high. 2003 01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,479 Speaker 5: Eight point eight nine. He just puts it in seventh, 2004 01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,960 Speaker 5: just ahead of the two thousand and four ALCS game 2005 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,839 Speaker 5: four Yankees versus Red Sox, and just behind the snowball 2006 01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:09,640 Speaker 5: game two thousand and one. 2007 01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:13,879 Speaker 3: Fucking love, let's go out of applause. 2008 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,799 Speaker 5: Miracle on Ice is still fourth, though, I mean, that's crazy. 2009 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,320 Speaker 5: No one's perfect. 2010 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,360 Speaker 1: We we kind of bag that we don't have a 2011 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,360 Speaker 1: lot of hockey in this but our top ten has 2012 01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:26,120 Speaker 1: two hockey games. 2013 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's diversity if I've ever seen it. Yeah, but 2014 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:31,840 Speaker 5: look it over here. Fifteen, uh fifty eighth overall. Two 2015 01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:34,800 Speaker 5: thousand eleven Stanley Cup Final game seven Bruins versus Canucks. 2016 01:32:35,200 --> 01:32:38,000 Speaker 5: Not great between two regular season NFL games. 2017 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:40,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's pretty bad. 2018 01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, we can fix that. That was a bad game though, Yeah, 2019 01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:44,759 Speaker 5: seven Stanley Cup Finals. 2020 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,960 Speaker 3: That's a man of integrity, Yeah, man of integrity. He 2021 01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:50,559 Speaker 3: knew the game was bad, and he says it should 2022 01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,719 Speaker 3: belong there started a riot. They started a riot. 2023 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. God, they burnt the whole fucking 2024 01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:56,000 Speaker 2: city down. 2025 01:32:56,360 --> 01:32:58,400 Speaker 3: Biz, we miss anything about this game. 2026 01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,519 Speaker 1: I mean we covered a recovered it all. It was 2027 01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:03,479 Speaker 1: a fun game to cover. Yeah, it was, and it 2028 01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,160 Speaker 1: was fresh in my memory. I feel like the buzz 2029 01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:07,080 Speaker 1: is still in the air. 2030 01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,280 Speaker 2: That's what I told Pasha. I'm glad we were coming 2031 01:33:09,320 --> 01:33:12,160 Speaker 2: over where this just ended. So everything was top of mind. 2032 01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,519 Speaker 1: And I always get a little nervous with the hockey 2033 01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:17,160 Speaker 1: guys because I don't know hockey. Like I know hockey, 2034 01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,280 Speaker 1: but I don't know, like when you guys are dropping 2035 01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 1: top cheese and. 2036 01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:22,519 Speaker 3: I need some help. 2037 01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,439 Speaker 4: I'll be your hockey correspondent from now on. 2038 01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:26,840 Speaker 3: You know, I definitely I'm gonna hit you up all 2039 01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:28,080 Speaker 3: the time, now, you know. 2040 01:33:29,200 --> 01:33:31,559 Speaker 1: I was introduced to hockey when I went to Boston, 2041 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,760 Speaker 1: Like I went to a Sharks game in an expansion 2042 01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:38,200 Speaker 1: game in nineteen ninety four, oh way, And when they 2043 01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,720 Speaker 1: first came they were playing at the Cow Palace in 2044 01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:42,960 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. They didn't have the stadium in San 2045 01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,320 Speaker 1: Jose yet, and me and my dad and my brother 2046 01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:48,160 Speaker 1: drove up there looking for the game. 2047 01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:48,559 Speaker 3: We didn't. 2048 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:52,280 Speaker 1: We out lost and we got there after the second 2049 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,679 Speaker 1: period and we're like, cool, we get the second half 2050 01:33:55,760 --> 01:33:58,439 Speaker 1: football people we thought it would be. Yeah, we got 2051 01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 1: one period of play that That was the introduction to 2052 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:02,800 Speaker 1: my hockey in my life. 2053 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,720 Speaker 3: And then I moved to Boston and went to. 2054 01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,479 Speaker 2: A few So, now where does your loyalty lie with 2055 01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:12,960 Speaker 2: the I'm boys with a lot of those guys, Sean Thornton, 2056 01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:14,520 Speaker 2: Melon Lucic. 2057 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,880 Speaker 3: I just saw last night too. He was the man. 2058 01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:17,679 Speaker 3: He's the man. 2059 01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 1: We used to hang out a bunch. I have a 2060 01:34:20,520 --> 01:34:23,719 Speaker 1: lot of relationships there. You know, Boston is a pretty 2061 01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:28,320 Speaker 1: cool pro city town. They're all very you know, intertwined 2062 01:34:28,320 --> 01:34:30,000 Speaker 1: and cross pollinating. 2063 01:34:29,479 --> 01:34:31,080 Speaker 3: With the love of the sports. 2064 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:32,840 Speaker 4: So I love going back there. 2065 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,519 Speaker 2: Like I just feel like it's a great It's a 2066 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:36,440 Speaker 2: big city, but it feels like a community. 2067 01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:41,360 Speaker 1: It's a it's a small big city that's exactly too overwhelming. No, 2068 01:34:41,479 --> 01:34:45,000 Speaker 1: it isn't everyone out there go check out spitting chick Lits. 2069 01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:48,880 Speaker 1: You gotta check out biz on NHL on TNT, and 2070 01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:50,160 Speaker 1: you gotta get some pink Whitney. 2071 01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:51,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2072 01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:53,960 Speaker 2: So we we had New Amsterdam Vodka as a sponsor 2073 01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,840 Speaker 2: for the pod and they said, Hey, explain how you 2074 01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,920 Speaker 2: like to drink your your vodka. 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Man, 2097 01:36:04,840 --> 01:36:08,080 Speaker 2: I'm so uh, I'm so grateful and and congratulations and 2098 01:36:08,120 --> 01:36:10,440 Speaker 2: all your success as an athlete and what you've transitioned 2099 01:36:10,439 --> 01:36:10,800 Speaker 2: it into. 2100 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,640 Speaker 3: I can't wait to finally get to hang out with 2101 01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:14,960 Speaker 3: you now and now we know each other. 2102 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and also this awesome team that you have going 2103 01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,360 Speaker 2: so good luck with your pod and thanks for having me. 2104 01:36:19,400 --> 01:36:21,639 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. Man, I'm gonna come on your soon. 2105 01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:25,479 Speaker 2: Oh we already had dronks and then maybe eventually Brady 2106 01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,520 Speaker 2: get all the boys. 2107 01:36:28,280 --> 01:36:31,640 Speaker 3: That's awesome, let's go. We'll be right back after this 2108 01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:32,360 Speaker 3: quick break. 2109 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,080 Speaker 5: Man, Hockey guys. 2110 01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:42,120 Speaker 1: Hockey guys guys are all cool, business cool. Yeah, you 2111 01:36:42,120 --> 01:36:46,760 Speaker 1: could just tell blue collar, fun to be around, so 2112 01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:50,920 Speaker 1: personal too, like just met everyone like, yeah, that's how 2113 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:51,800 Speaker 1: hockey guys are. 2114 01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,400 Speaker 3: The Zamboni guy they oh you know GM on the 2115 01:36:54,520 --> 01:37:01,320 Speaker 3: zamboni fucking the skate people all they're just they're just 2116 01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,599 Speaker 3: the boys, you know, they're the good. They're just the boys. 2117 01:37:05,680 --> 01:37:07,320 Speaker 3: I don't know why that's that's one of the that's 2118 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:08,400 Speaker 3: like a hockey term. The boy. 2119 01:37:08,880 --> 01:37:09,559 Speaker 4: What's the boys? 2120 01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:10,120 Speaker 3: The boys? 2121 01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:10,599 Speaker 5: The boys? 2122 01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the boys, the boys? 2123 01:37:12,280 --> 01:37:14,960 Speaker 5: What's the boys doing? Also same reading level as you. 2124 01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:16,920 Speaker 3: Did? 2125 01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:17,960 Speaker 5: Nice? 2126 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:18,519 Speaker 4: I like that. 2127 01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:22,479 Speaker 3: I like that. That's why I liked him so much. Yeah. Well, 2128 01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,760 Speaker 3: it's time for the Chill Zone, brought to you by 2129 01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:29,040 Speaker 3: Coors Light. Get Corps Light delivered straight to your door. 2130 01:37:29,120 --> 01:37:36,240 Speaker 1: Visit Coreslight dot com, slash g w N celebrate responsibly today. 2131 01:37:37,160 --> 01:37:41,759 Speaker 3: Oh we got a little story time. Oh the Mountain 2132 01:37:41,800 --> 01:37:46,160 Speaker 3: blues from uh what when we went. 2133 01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,120 Speaker 5: To Last night? We went to l A Skate Baby 2134 01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,320 Speaker 5: Skate for l A Straw Skate for l A Strong. 2135 01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,400 Speaker 5: It's a big celebrity skating event for the LA Fires. 2136 01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:59,280 Speaker 5: Took place at Crypto dot Com Center Arena, Staples Staples, No, 2137 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,840 Speaker 5: it's Crypto Crypto. It was fun. 2138 01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:02,479 Speaker 3: It was fun. 2139 01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,400 Speaker 5: Four teams you brought, Lily, we went. The amount of 2140 01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:07,920 Speaker 5: legends that we met that you had no idea who 2141 01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:10,200 Speaker 5: they were. It was awesome. I was I was like 2142 01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:12,920 Speaker 5: a pig and shit down there. Explain to your experience. 2143 01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:14,040 Speaker 5: How did you have a good time? 2144 01:38:14,120 --> 01:38:15,200 Speaker 3: I had a great time. 2145 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:20,679 Speaker 1: I mean this was like, this was like my first 2146 01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:27,519 Speaker 1: maybe kind of charitable event in La as someone who's 2147 01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 1: part of this community now and now this fire was 2148 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:35,800 Speaker 1: like my first go around at this whole thing. And 2149 01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,320 Speaker 1: we just moved here full time, you know, two years ago, 2150 01:38:39,400 --> 01:38:42,640 Speaker 1: and we were really this was devastating. That was devastating 2151 01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:46,440 Speaker 1: time like that fire was crazy. It felt you felt helpless, 2152 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:55,200 Speaker 1: and I'll keep reiterating, I was so so proud of 2153 01:38:55,240 --> 01:39:00,400 Speaker 1: the people here how they've been able to respond. Like 2154 01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:02,840 Speaker 1: I've been watching from kind of like an outsider watching 2155 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:04,920 Speaker 1: in who's been in these kind of situations. I was 2156 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 1: in Boston for the bombing. I saw a community come 2157 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:13,639 Speaker 1: together and fucking battle strength strong. You know, we're gonna 2158 01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:16,639 Speaker 1: get better from this thing. I saw that in Boston 2159 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:18,760 Speaker 1: with that, and I'm seeing the same thing here in 2160 01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:23,200 Speaker 1: La I've seen so many people give their time, you know. 2161 01:39:23,320 --> 01:39:26,720 Speaker 1: The day, like three days after that fire, you know, 2162 01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,040 Speaker 1: I was getting a bunch of I was going around 2163 01:39:30,120 --> 01:39:32,200 Speaker 1: checking it out on my little e bike and stuff. 2164 01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,519 Speaker 1: And to see the line of cars on San Vicente 2165 01:39:35,560 --> 01:39:38,799 Speaker 1: of people in the community who just lost their homes. 2166 01:39:38,840 --> 01:39:44,640 Speaker 1: People giving food, clothes to these people, helping out the firefighters, 2167 01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,280 Speaker 1: the first responders, you know, the firefighters that are going 2168 01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,679 Speaker 1: in this thing looking like hell. It looked like held 2169 01:39:50,680 --> 01:39:54,320 Speaker 1: in a lot of those spots to the National Guard 2170 01:39:54,680 --> 01:39:57,680 Speaker 1: and the cops that were keeping things in order. There 2171 01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,639 Speaker 1: was fucking like full looting going on because people were 2172 01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,880 Speaker 1: gone so like. It was a fucking crazy time in La. 2173 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,759 Speaker 1: And to go to that skate for La Strong event 2174 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:13,160 Speaker 1: to raise money for this by someone who's in this 2175 01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,640 Speaker 1: community now, it was really cool and I got to 2176 01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,200 Speaker 1: bring Lily. You know, they're raising a lot of money 2177 01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:23,599 Speaker 1: for people that lost their homes, lost a lot like everything, 2178 01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:24,240 Speaker 1: you know. 2179 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,120 Speaker 3: And it wasn't just rich people, you know, it was 2180 01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:30,200 Speaker 3: people of all responders, you know what I mean. That's 2181 01:40:30,200 --> 01:40:32,720 Speaker 3: what a lot of these narratives are when you see 2182 01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:33,839 Speaker 3: it across the country. 2183 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:36,439 Speaker 1: Oh La, just these movie stars. Nah, there's like some 2184 01:40:36,479 --> 01:40:38,760 Speaker 1: regular ass people lost their homes. There's a lot of 2185 01:40:38,760 --> 01:40:42,479 Speaker 1: homes lost. And this was a cool event that you know, 2186 01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:48,960 Speaker 1: the Kings put on at the Crypto Currency Center in 2187 01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:53,040 Speaker 1: a short amount of time that had a really cool turnout. 2188 01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,520 Speaker 1: Got to see Will Ferrell. 2189 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,680 Speaker 5: With Will Farrell. Lily was so fun with she was 2190 01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:03,040 Speaker 5: like in awe, you know, you know in Elf when 2191 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,240 Speaker 5: you're like when he's when he points the Santa Santa, 2192 01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:07,360 Speaker 5: I know him. I was like, Lily, like, now you 2193 01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,519 Speaker 5: can point that to Elf when you watch him Elf, 2194 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:10,960 Speaker 5: I know him exactly. 2195 01:41:11,680 --> 01:41:13,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, she will was awesome. 2196 01:41:14,040 --> 01:41:17,719 Speaker 1: We we had a dinner before once at Wahlberg's house 2197 01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:21,120 Speaker 1: after the fourteen Super Bowl because he's a Seattle Seahawks fan. 2198 01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:25,200 Speaker 3: I think I don't know his uh settle. 2199 01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:29,080 Speaker 1: It was a big USC guy's I think he's a 2200 01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:32,960 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks fan. But like we've we've met before and 2201 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:35,080 Speaker 1: it was cool to kind of I haven't seen him in. 2202 01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:35,599 Speaker 4: A long time. 2203 01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:42,439 Speaker 3: Looks great. Yeah, and then unk Uncle Snoop Lily the 2204 01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,599 Speaker 3: whole ride there because I told her that Snoop might 2205 01:41:45,640 --> 01:41:47,600 Speaker 3: be there, and I tell her that I, you know, 2206 01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:51,559 Speaker 3: I got to get dad points. And Snoop made me 2207 01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:55,280 Speaker 3: look like the coolest dad ever. You know? 2208 01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:56,280 Speaker 4: Was he is? 2209 01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,840 Speaker 5: He He's friends with Pete Carroll from USC. 2210 01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, Pete car So there was something. But Uncle Snoop Lily, 2211 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,200 Speaker 3: you know, we were listening to Snoop Clean Mix, Snoop 2212 01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:13,400 Speaker 3: Clean Mix, Clean Mix, uh before the game on the 2213 01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:18,479 Speaker 3: way there, because that's her favorite rapper him and Eminem nice. Yeah, 2214 01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:20,719 Speaker 3: I don't know where. I like where. I don't even 2215 01:42:20,720 --> 01:42:22,559 Speaker 3: put this on in front of her. She like it's 2216 01:42:22,600 --> 01:42:27,120 Speaker 3: when she's it's the kids. But she's at that age 2217 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,840 Speaker 3: where she like knows rappers and so Snoop was just 2218 01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:35,000 Speaker 3: so charming to her, like like he is, and and 2219 01:42:35,080 --> 01:42:37,439 Speaker 3: freaking asked her if he could have a hug, and 2220 01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,799 Speaker 3: she hugged him and and said can we have a picture, 2221 01:42:40,840 --> 01:42:45,760 Speaker 3: and just he's a He's just a cool dude. And 2222 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,600 Speaker 3: it was just a fun It was a fun met Countless. 2223 01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:50,240 Speaker 3: Also I got to see. 2224 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:54,160 Speaker 1: Slowly and Aaron. Uh, they're really you know, that's the 2225 01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:57,679 Speaker 1: real reason I went. They asked me to come. Aaron 2226 01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:02,080 Speaker 1: Andrews and and her husband Stole and then uh, I 2227 01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:04,679 Speaker 1: mean there was a lot of people there. Yeah, Lily 2228 01:43:04,720 --> 01:43:06,799 Speaker 1: got the high five through the glass with Bieber. 2229 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:07,799 Speaker 3: She was all happy. 2230 01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:09,759 Speaker 5: Well, she got a puck too, She got a puck 2231 01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,120 Speaker 5: from Derek Armstrong. 2232 01:43:11,640 --> 01:43:15,320 Speaker 3: Armstrong shout out, my guy. It was cool seeing the 2233 01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:18,360 Speaker 3: old dudes. Yeah, I love seeing because they can still 2234 01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:18,760 Speaker 3: move it. 2235 01:43:18,880 --> 01:43:20,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, Messia looks still good out there. 2236 01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,639 Speaker 3: He dude, he looks like how old is he? He's 2237 01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,960 Speaker 3: got to be sixty. He's not sixty. Might be he 2238 01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:28,880 Speaker 3: might be what a freak? 2239 01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like even I was really impressed with some 2240 01:43:31,880 --> 01:43:33,320 Speaker 1: of the first sixty. 2241 01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, Taylor, Taylor Kitchen. He was great. 2242 01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:36,679 Speaker 3: Kitch was really good. 2243 01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:40,479 Speaker 5: Stayed home, defenseman. He was good out there, No, Kitch. 2244 01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,760 Speaker 3: I've been watching him on that American Prime Evil Great 2245 01:43:44,240 --> 01:43:44,840 Speaker 3: great show. 2246 01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:47,640 Speaker 5: Text Petersburg yet, Yeah, I texted him, Okay, thank you, 2247 01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:48,120 Speaker 5: I did. 2248 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:48,559 Speaker 4: I did. 2249 01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:50,960 Speaker 3: But it was really cool to see, Like I didn't 2250 01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:52,599 Speaker 3: know he was playing in this and I didn't really 2251 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,080 Speaker 3: know his name. Yeah, but then I was like, wait 2252 01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:57,439 Speaker 3: a minute, is that Prime Evil dude? 2253 01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:01,920 Speaker 5: Oh he's way look at you might have been the 2254 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,200 Speaker 5: best like actor celebrity athough there was that. There was 2255 01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:06,639 Speaker 5: a La Lan guy who I don't really know who. 2256 01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,360 Speaker 3: There's a little blonde dude. Yeah he had and then 2257 01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:13,599 Speaker 3: the social media kid Josh Richard. Josh Yeah pretty good. 2258 01:44:13,640 --> 01:44:15,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was good. He was out there like we 2259 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:16,879 Speaker 5: went to uh, yeah, I saw. 2260 01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,759 Speaker 3: Him flying around. Is he Canadian or something? 2261 01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:19,600 Speaker 5: I think he is? 2262 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, all the that's how you that's how you know 2263 01:44:22,600 --> 01:44:23,400 Speaker 3: Kayler Kitchen. 2264 01:44:23,200 --> 01:44:25,839 Speaker 5: Is Canadian too. Yeah, you could tell, you could tell about. 2265 01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:26,719 Speaker 3: You could just tell. 2266 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:30,479 Speaker 1: If it because we did the family skate before. We 2267 01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:32,400 Speaker 1: were skating and Lily was skating. 2268 01:44:33,200 --> 01:44:35,839 Speaker 5: That was fun skates. Next time we'll bring our own skates. 2269 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:36,760 Speaker 3: Gotta bring her own. 2270 01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:37,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2271 01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:39,840 Speaker 1: But how how cool is it to see the like 2272 01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:42,160 Speaker 1: because there was a lot of pro players in their families. 2273 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,240 Speaker 1: You see like all the little young bucks, like their 2274 01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:48,960 Speaker 1: little eight year olds are flying in crazy ship. 2275 01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:50,800 Speaker 3: A girl that could barely walk. 2276 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:55,080 Speaker 1: I think, who's the captain Copaitar Copaitar's little daughters. She 2277 01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:59,240 Speaker 1: was like, she's like barely walking and then she hops 2278 01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,679 Speaker 1: up on the skates and she's just fucking flying. She's 2279 01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:05,120 Speaker 1: she had to have been two, yeah, maybe three. 2280 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:05,439 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2281 01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 5: The kids were out there too, I mean it was it. 2282 01:45:08,160 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 1: Was that was just it was really cool to see that. 2283 01:45:12,240 --> 01:45:16,640 Speaker 1: I like, you just enjoy hockey. It's a it feels 2284 01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:19,479 Speaker 1: fun family Now. 2285 01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,040 Speaker 5: Matt Lioner was out there in the skate. It was 2286 01:45:22,040 --> 01:45:24,639 Speaker 5: actually played. Did that get the competitive Jesus going? 2287 01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:26,400 Speaker 3: I kind of thought about it. I saw the way 2288 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:27,960 Speaker 3: he was skating. I was like, maybe I could go 2289 01:45:28,000 --> 01:45:29,840 Speaker 3: out if if he's out there, I think I could 2290 01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:32,479 Speaker 3: go out there next time. I might have to almost 2291 01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:35,920 Speaker 3: start training with fucking biz nasty over here and fucking 2292 01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:38,920 Speaker 3: I'll be calling Sean Thornton. Milan's right down the street 2293 01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:41,719 Speaker 3: in Manhattan Beach. I saw him there. It was great 2294 01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:44,599 Speaker 3: to see him. Yeah, his daughter is so damn big. 2295 01:45:44,680 --> 01:45:47,840 Speaker 3: It's so crazy because you know, we haven't you see 2296 01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:49,400 Speaker 3: a lot of the people from Boston. We haven't seen 2297 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,719 Speaker 3: each other in four years, five years, six, you know, seven, 2298 01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:54,840 Speaker 3: eight years. And I remember seeing the kids when they're 2299 01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,839 Speaker 3: peanuts and then all of a sudden, you know they're twelve, thirteen, fourteen, 2300 01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:00,799 Speaker 3: twenty fucking crazy. 2301 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:04,519 Speaker 1: That's you know, we still have that Boston connection. Anywhere 2302 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,519 Speaker 1: we go, they're all the Boston guys, you know what 2303 01:46:06,560 --> 01:46:06,880 Speaker 1: I mean. 2304 01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:07,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. 2305 01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:11,960 Speaker 5: And then we talked to Kevin bix too, who for 2306 01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 5: you deep cut games with names heads when he heads 2307 01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:16,360 Speaker 5: an on the on the show, and he told the 2308 01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:19,240 Speaker 5: story about how he saw the Canucks lifting the cup 2309 01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:21,559 Speaker 5: like as practice. Yeah, and the exit went on like 2310 01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:24,439 Speaker 5: national Canadian televisions like that's bullshit. He was talking to 2311 01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:25,200 Speaker 5: you about that a little bit. 2312 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:27,640 Speaker 3: He was cool. Yeah, I didn't really know. See I 2313 01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 3: felt bad. I don't know the hockey guys that will always. 2314 01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:33,240 Speaker 5: We're also with Ron McLean and Ron McLean is like 2315 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,559 Speaker 5: an absolute fucking legend. 2316 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:38,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there was just and they're always just really 2317 01:46:38,160 --> 01:46:41,599 Speaker 1: cool guys. Yeah, that are just like, you know, they're 2318 01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:45,679 Speaker 1: like here, they're they're they're all here with the demeanor, 2319 01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:51,759 Speaker 1: demeanor and like make you feel comfortable vibe by busting 2320 01:46:51,800 --> 01:46:55,040 Speaker 1: your balls or something that you know, they're just hockey dudes, 2321 01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:55,439 Speaker 1: got it. 2322 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,559 Speaker 5: Ron McLean, who we talked about the broadcasting legend, same 2323 01:46:58,600 --> 01:47:02,640 Speaker 5: exact age as Mark Messier. They're both sixty four. Was 2324 01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:07,240 Speaker 5: Beaber's good too, skate and you met like Luke Roboti, 2325 01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:08,360 Speaker 5: He's a legend. Martin McSorley. 2326 01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:08,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. 2327 01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:10,639 Speaker 5: Mc sorely took a picture with the cup. 2328 01:47:11,000 --> 01:47:12,760 Speaker 3: Took a picture of the cup of Lil. Been with 2329 01:47:12,800 --> 01:47:14,800 Speaker 3: the cup before, Yeah, first time with Lil. 2330 01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, she didn't touch it, just in case. 2331 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,040 Speaker 3: He did not touch it. Did not touch that cup. 2332 01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:23,760 Speaker 3: We don't we respect, we don't make them, but we 2333 01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,879 Speaker 3: enforce them. 2334 01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:28,559 Speaker 5: That was awesome. Thanks to the La Kings for doing 2335 01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 5: that for the community. 2336 01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was awesome. I hopefully they got a great turnout. 2337 01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:37,160 Speaker 3: It was awesome seeing all the cops, the firefighters. Yeah, 2338 01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:40,080 Speaker 3: shout out to the Mullins. They won, They won. They 2339 01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,000 Speaker 3: were fucking good too. He's a little just they're they're 2340 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:47,360 Speaker 3: two SOUTHI Southie boys and they're like high ups in 2341 01:47:47,400 --> 01:47:50,880 Speaker 3: the fire department out here and they're just fucking wrecking 2342 01:47:50,920 --> 01:47:51,840 Speaker 3: shop on the ice. 2343 01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,800 Speaker 1: It was fucking awesome. Yeah, it was cool. Like there's 2344 01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:57,599 Speaker 1: a good ask. I think there was a cop goalie 2345 01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:59,120 Speaker 1: that was really good. Was he the red goalie? Who 2346 01:47:59,160 --> 01:47:59,679 Speaker 1: was the red goalie? 2347 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:00,000 Speaker 4: Red? 2348 01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:02,360 Speaker 5: I don't think I'll let up a goal the whole team. 2349 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't know who that was, but he was money. Yeah, 2350 01:48:06,360 --> 01:48:08,120 Speaker 1: I saw one. I think it was a cop. He 2351 01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,360 Speaker 1: had a fool food man chew. He looks so cool 2352 01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:11,840 Speaker 1: out there. 2353 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:13,120 Speaker 4: And then the one. 2354 01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:16,880 Speaker 5: Those of like the weird mustache people are often firefighters 2355 01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,559 Speaker 5: because that's the only ficial here they can have for 2356 01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:19,160 Speaker 5: their masks. 2357 01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:19,759 Speaker 3: Yeah. 2358 01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:22,920 Speaker 5: My only regret from this evening was we didn't get 2359 01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:26,480 Speaker 5: to see our games with names. Friend of the show, Danvidvito. 2360 01:48:27,040 --> 01:48:31,880 Speaker 3: I know he didn't get to see Vince Vaughan. Love 2361 01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:32,479 Speaker 3: Vince Vaughan. 2362 01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:36,280 Speaker 5: Well, when you play next time, he'll be in there. 2363 01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:37,880 Speaker 3: He's funny with sport talk. 2364 01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:38,840 Speaker 5: He'd be great. 2365 01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:40,560 Speaker 3: I think he would be an unbelievable. 2366 01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:45,120 Speaker 1: Guest just on watching him in the breakup talk about 2367 01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:47,840 Speaker 1: the little digital people in the Madden game when he's 2368 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:49,599 Speaker 1: beating the ship out of some twelve year old while 2369 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:53,000 Speaker 1: his girls getting mad, Jennifer getting all mad at him. 2370 01:48:53,920 --> 01:48:56,719 Speaker 3: He's over here talking ship. He's like prime shit talker 2371 01:48:57,080 --> 01:48:59,120 Speaker 3: to this little twelve year old kid. He's beating the 2372 01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:00,800 Speaker 3: ship out of Matt and I love. 2373 01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:02,360 Speaker 5: He's the best. 2374 01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:06,639 Speaker 1: Well that was the chill Zone thanks to our favorite beer, 2375 01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:11,439 Speaker 1: cores Light. Get you some cores Light delivered straight to 2376 01:49:11,560 --> 01:49:17,960 Speaker 1: your door. Visit Coreslight dot com. Slash gwn celebrate responsibly. 2377 01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:24,519 Speaker 3: Guys, what a game that was. I'm like hockeyed up. 2378 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:26,120 Speaker 3: I want more hockey. 2379 01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:28,880 Speaker 5: I connected with the King's PR guy. He might he 2380 01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:30,960 Speaker 5: might get us some kings. 2381 01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:32,519 Speaker 3: I know, but I'm just hockeyed up. Man. 2382 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:34,600 Speaker 5: Also, Bizz after the show said he'd hook us up 2383 01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:35,960 Speaker 5: with some people. We need to follow up on that. 2384 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:37,920 Speaker 5: You get his number, Well, we got it. 2385 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,759 Speaker 3: We'll connect. Yeah, I didn't get his number. 2386 01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,880 Speaker 5: We'll got it, we'll connect. Yeah, we got to take 2387 01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:42,320 Speaker 5: him up on. 2388 01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,800 Speaker 3: That's cool. It's great to finally meet him. 2389 01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:45,879 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's awesome. 2390 01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:49,439 Speaker 3: Stud. Well that's been another episode of games would name. 2391 01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:53,400 Speaker 3: Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever you listen to your 2392 01:49:53,479 --> 01:49:55,839 Speaker 3: podcast comedy game you want us to do and remember, 2393 01:49:56,080 --> 01:50:03,440 Speaker 3: rate and review and leave us five star review on Spotify. 2394 01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:07,640 Speaker 1: While you're there, remember to follow games with names on YouTube, Instagram, 2395 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:12,200 Speaker 1: x TikTok, and snapchat. Leave a comment on the YouTube 2396 01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:18,200 Speaker 1: full episode. Yeap, leave a comment on the YouTube full episode. 2397 01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:19,680 Speaker 5: During the live chat, we do a premiere now with 2398 01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:21,519 Speaker 5: me and Jack Crofting and that you're in there. Sometimes 2399 01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:21,960 Speaker 5: it's fun. 2400 01:50:22,520 --> 01:50:24,360 Speaker 3: Hey, you got it. Yeah, we'll read some of the 2401 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:25,439 Speaker 3: best ones out there. Yeah. 2402 01:50:25,479 --> 01:50:26,400 Speaker 5: Maybe next episode. 2403 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,840 Speaker 3: Plea you a message at the old hotline at four 2404 01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,200 Speaker 3: two four two nine one two two nine zero. 2405 01:50:31,880 --> 01:50:37,519 Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next week. Games with Names of 2406 01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:40,920 Speaker 1: production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the 2407 01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:41,640 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio 2408 01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,840 Speaker 3: App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.