1 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from dot Com. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome to tech Stuff. This is Jonathan Strickland. 3 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: Because of the holidays, recording time is scarce around here, 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: so that's why I've decided to look back at another 5 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: classic tech Stuff episode. This one is from two thousand 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: and twelve, and it's all about the c e S experience. 7 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: In just a couple of weeks, I'll be in Las 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: Vegas for c e S two thousand fifteen. Now, in 9 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: this classic episode, Chris Palette and I talked about the 10 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: history of the show, what it's all about, and what 11 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: it feels like to actually attend check it out. Today, 12 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about UM the event formally known 13 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 1: as the Consumer Electronics Show, but I think it's it 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: bears throwing that name in there for people who aren't 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: as familiar with the acronym which the organization behind it 16 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: wants us to use when we talk about it, E 17 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: E es yeah and uh. And when this episode goes 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: live will be while I'm in Las Vegas at the 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve c e S. We're recording this 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: in December, but by the time this goes live, I 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: should be if I if I've counted my calendar correctly, 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: I should be in Vegas as you're listening to this 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: if you downloaded it the day it came out, right, 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this right now and it's 25 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: it's the second week of January, just remember Jonathan is 26 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: in Las Vegas and is exhausted and crying. Yes, and 27 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: I'm not right, although he may be still crying because 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: Chris does do that. But let's let's talk about Let's 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: talk about the the show, it's background, and then I 30 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: think we'll we'll concentrate on that in the first half 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: of our episode and the second half. This is one episode. 32 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: It just the first section of our episode. In the 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: second section of our episode, we'll talk about what the 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: experience is like being at c S because both both 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: of us have been. Yes, the fact that we we 36 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: were both there at the most heavily attended ce S ever. Yeah. Yeah, 37 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: the the show, um, may you may actually be familiar 38 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: with it, Yeah, there are, there are a lot of people. Um, 39 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 1: the consumer, the organization behind c E s UM basically 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: is right in thinking that a lot more people know 41 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: about this show than than they used to. Yeah, it's 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: the consumer Electronics Association that puts on the show and 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: that that's an organization of around two thousand companies that 44 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: are in the consumer electronics industry. And these companies have 45 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: formed this organization for many reasons. Part of it is 46 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: the organization conducts a lot of market research to kind 47 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: of find out what consumers are interested in, what the 48 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: trends are going to be, so that companies can kind 49 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: of get a jump on things and start developing products 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: that are going to really appeal to people. You know 51 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: that there's always a challenge figuring out what people are 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: going to be interested in and and developing that because 53 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, most of these products have development cycles that 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: last a couple of years. So yeah, so to be 55 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 1: able to identify what a trend is going to be 56 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: not tomorrow, but two years from tomorrow is a huge challenge. 57 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: So that's part of what the c e A does. 58 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: They also have networking opportunities. UM. I mean, obviously you've 59 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of these really important folks in various 60 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: major companies and they all tend to know each other 61 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: through organizations like the c e A and UH. It's 62 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: also about education around things like legislation and regulation. There's 63 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot of these industries do have legislation and regulation 64 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: surrounding them, so it's important for companies to be aware 65 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: of that and to know what is and isn't cricket 66 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: before they go into developing a product. Well but I 67 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: but CES is they're big, Like, that's the thing everyone 68 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: knows them for because c e S is just it's 69 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: it's the public face of the organization and it's and 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: it's become such a huge event, especially from its humble beginnings. Yes, yes, 71 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: but in in essence, um, it's a trade show. UM 72 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: basically a big open floor with booths where companies are 73 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: showing off their products and there are people representatives from 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: the company, not necessarily company employees. Sometimes they're they're pr 75 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: people that they've hired to talk, hired guns who come 76 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: in and they've got fact sheets about all the different 77 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: products that they have all memorized and they're happy to 78 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 1: spout off. But if you ask them anything that's not 79 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: on the fact sheet, then they give you an email. Hey, 80 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,919 Speaker 1: here take my card. Um, we'll get into into what 81 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: it's like. It's it's interesting to note, um that this 82 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: you know, we were in a gadget hungry world now 83 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: in the in the two thousands, when the twenty one 84 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: century uh before that, you know, it's like the nineties 85 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: were kind of like that. To the eighties. We had 86 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: the Walkman, we had the the debut of the compact 87 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:51,040 Speaker 1: disc player, um, which we'll get into in a minute. Um. 88 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: You know, we we we live in an electronics crazy world. 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: But the show goes back a little before that, to 90 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: a time when there weren't um, you know, fifty different 91 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: things plugged into our walls in our living room, uh 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: sucking down juice. There were there were this organization and 93 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: this event dates back into the nineteen sixties. Yeah, nineteen 94 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: sixty seven in New York City. That was the first CES. 95 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,479 Speaker 1: And back then electronics consisted of one radio and a 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: television that didn't work yet not true. No, that's that's 97 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,479 Speaker 1: why that was a complete and well, the nineteen sixty 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: seven part was true, but the rest was a lie. 99 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: I did find a flicker set of photos from uh 100 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: from early c e s s there was around in 101 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven. That's amazing the photos. However, Um, it's 102 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: it's interesting, um to see people lined up at the 103 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: registration booth um where you can kunt them wearing yeah, 104 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: wearing suits and ties, you know, because hey, you know 105 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: they were members of the press and t show, you know, 106 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: and it was a trade show, so you dressed up. 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah it is. And none of them were were clatify 108 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: right right, Oh there you are, Perry. Uh. The so 109 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: that that first show, there were two hundred exhibitors at 110 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: that first show, and there were seventeen dollars five hundred 111 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: people attending this show. And we should also point out 112 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: that when we say people exhibitors, Yeah, if only I 113 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: could go for half a day and I'd be done. Um, 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: attendees and and uh, the attendees were all industry related. 115 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: You know. It's not open to the public. Why why 116 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: why would you want to go? Yes, because I mean 117 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: the idea, I mean I often ask myself that question. 118 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: But now the uh, the well yeah, but I mean 119 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 1: it's their variations on different TV sets and different kinds 120 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 1: of radio stuff that's interesting. But for the most part, 121 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 1: what this is for it's it's for the vendors that 122 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: the manufacturers to show off new products to retailers so 123 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: that retailers will go in order the devices from the 124 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: manufacturer and starts selling them through their retail stores of 125 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: a trade show. That's what they're four. That's that's the 126 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: main that's the big business that's going on at c 127 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: E S. And then you have the press as well 128 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: that covers C E S. And I think back in 129 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, there probably weren't any bloggers, but it 130 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: was all journalists, um so. And I'm assuming that a 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: lot of them probably wouldn't have been interested in this 132 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: because this isn't as interesting to the reader in nineteen 133 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: sixty seven, uh, the general reader as it would be today. Yeah. There, 134 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, the there did become kind of an interesting 135 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: uh history at CES for new technologies to debut there, 136 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about those in a little bit. But 137 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: when it first started, it was pretty it was it 138 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: was fairly modest, and it was not the only big 139 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: trade show out there either. I mean, you know, it's 140 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: one of the ones that we hear about consistently today, 141 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: but it's not the only one. It was actually a 142 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: spinoff of another trade show, the Chicago Music Show back 143 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: in the day. Interesting but um uh. And then you know, 144 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: you skip ahead by a bout a decade unless you 145 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: had do you had specific things you wanted to talk 146 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: about in the early history of c e s um, No, 147 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: not necessarily. So I was thinking, like back in around 148 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: the c e A decided to try something new and 149 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: hold actually two trade shows per year in summer, right, 150 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: and the winter one was always in Vegas, and the 151 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: summer one for the first first couple of decades was 152 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: in Chicago. But then in n e A decided to 153 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: try and experiment and move the summer city to different 154 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: destinations and to kind of play that, play with that 155 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: and see how that went. Originally they were going to 156 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: go to Philadelphia in I think, and then the problem 157 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: was it was scheduled directly against uh, the E three 158 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: UM event and E three the Electronic Entertainment Expo is 159 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: another big trade show, UH. And that's so a lot 160 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: of exhibitors were kind of expressing concern about that because 161 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: they really wanted to be and and retailers too they 162 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: wanted to be at the other trade show as well. 163 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: They have to pick between the two. And if if 164 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: you've got one show that has two shows a year 165 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: and one that only has one show a year, well 166 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: then that's easy. You you skip the one that has two, 167 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: you can go to the other show, and then you've 168 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: got you you still have another chance to make it 169 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: to the first one. So they tried that a couple 170 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: of times. Uh in they decided, you know, this doesn't 171 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: make any sense. We're just gonna do one show a year. 172 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: It'll be that Winter Show and it's gonna be in Vegas. 173 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: And that's how it's been since. So, um, you want 174 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: to talk about some of the products, some of the 175 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: technologies that have debuted at c e S. Yeah, we 176 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: actually we actually have several um tech stuff episodes about 177 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: some of the technologies that have that we're first shown 178 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: off to people beyond the manufacturers at c e S. Yeah. Yeah, 179 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: and um, this is this is one of those those 180 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: things about the show. Um, well, we were going to 181 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: talk about what it's like to go to the show, 182 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: But if you go to to any of the booths, 183 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're likely to see incremental changes in a product, 184 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: the next version of a technology. Yeah, we've got the 185 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: new camera which has a slightly faster, um you know, 186 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: ability to do burst photography. Well a few years ago, 187 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: burst photography was new. Yeah. Yeah, So I'd say the 188 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 1: stuff you encounter at ce S is just a slight 189 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: evolution on technology. We've already seen but that one percent, 190 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,839 Speaker 1: and and you know they're there um variations on stuff. 191 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: It'll be uh, you know, things that are slightly smaller, 192 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 1: you know than last year, or they come in different colors, 193 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: or like the a camera that incorporates a button so 194 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: that you can share photos on social networking sites more 195 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: more readily. Yeah, that kind of stuff. Well, the new 196 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: feature that's in a pre existing technology. Yeah. Or you'll 197 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: go to a or we'll go to press event and 198 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: they'll we'll find out that, um, the TVs are not 199 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: any particularly larger or or thinner than they were last year, 200 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: but this time they're in blue because blue was the 201 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: trendy color this year. But you will find this stuff 202 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: that is brand new, and stuff that is that was 203 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: previously unavailable to the public that will be including UM 204 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: And my first device was groundbreaking. And when I mean groundbreaking, 205 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: it's because it was large and heavy. Video cassette recorder 206 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 1: YEP YEP. Video cassette recorders or VCRs, debuted at c 207 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: e S was the first time anyone outside of the 208 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: the industry got a chance to get a look at 209 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: one of these and um, and for those of you 210 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: who don't remember, VCRs were a big thing. Yeah. Yeah, 211 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: and one of your your hits now this I have 212 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: a list that came from C E S itself, The 213 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: next of which was the LaserDisc player invent four and 214 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: that was that was pretty huge. Yeah, that was. LaserDisc 215 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: players ended up being more of a niche market. There 216 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: was a like an enthusiast market that it was extremely popular. 217 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: And um, I mean there's still devotees of the the 218 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: laser displayer out there today, but it never reached a 219 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: kind of widespread adoption. And I'm going to do that 220 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: thing that Jonathan hates it when I knew I want 221 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: to actually hold something up, especially glasses on. Do you 222 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: recognize this device that would be the first cheap digital 223 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: watch from Texas Instruments. Yes, it made its its debut 224 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: in the in the mid seventies. I did recognize it. Yeah, 225 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: that was If you listen to our Texas Instruments episodes 226 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: then you know. We actually talked about that about how 227 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: t I helped bring in this era of of less 228 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: expensive digital watches. Before that, they were all these luxury 229 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: items that cost hundreds of dollars. Transistors transistors, speaking of 230 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: something that has transistors in it, um, a device that 231 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: I owned in the nineteen seventies and this uh, it's 232 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: it's interesting that you brought up E three in the 233 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: mid nineties because E three is much younger. Trade show. Um, 234 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: if you wanted to show off the next device, you 235 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: would have to take it to C E S because 236 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: there wasn't an E three UM when it showed up 237 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: in N seven, and that would be ATRIS VCS Video 238 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: Computer System. Other consoles also first debuted at c S, 239 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: including some that debuted after E three started. That includes 240 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: Pong that's that was that was before E three, but 241 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: any s that also debuted c S and in America, 242 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,679 Speaker 1: granted had had already been out in Japan, but made 243 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: its American debut in uh A Winter c S show. 244 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: And then um also the Xbox Yeah. UM. Traditionally, there 245 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: are several keynote speeches that take place at C E S. 246 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: It's not all just out there on the trade show 247 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: floor where you're looking at booths. They also have sessions 248 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: that they hold where they talk about trends and technology 249 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: and and companies will have a press of event where 250 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: they will unveil the stuff that you would be able 251 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: to see on the floor, but you'll get an early 252 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: look at what it can do before you get to 253 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: the floor. Well, Microsoft has had a keynote slot at 254 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: cs for years and at one of these they unveiled 255 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: the Xbox. So that was it wasn't any three thing 256 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: that was before Microsoft was big in games. Yeah, that was. 257 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: It was a huge splash for Microsoft because you know, 258 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: Microsoft had been involved in games on the computer side, 259 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: but not so much on the console side. So this 260 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: was definitely a pretty big move and it turned out 261 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: to be a really successful one, which, you know, it's 262 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: nice to be able to say that about Microsoft. Yeah, 263 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: you're right. I didn't mean to say that they weren't 264 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: because they had done They had been releasing games for years, 265 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: not on the scale that the Xbox, right, it was 266 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: all it was all computer based, like Microsoft Light simulator 267 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: type stuff. You know. The other other technologies that debuted, 268 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: it's yes, Um, well you're talking about laser discs and VCRs. 269 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Let's stay on that topic. There was a big year 270 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: because that was when the cam quarter and Compact Disc 271 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: Player was shown off c d S and then DVDs 272 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: also debuted at c e S and as did um 273 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: Blu Ray. Yes, it also debuted at CES yeah. Oh, 274 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: and don't forget that earth shattering announcement from Sony the 275 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: mini disc. Yeah. Very popular in other parts of the world, 276 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: not so much in the United States. Um you know, 277 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: hi hi d F TV here in the United States, 278 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: Um you know, plasma TVs, um, you know, all kinds 279 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: of stuff, and of course three d H D t 280 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: V in the in the two thousand nine Yeah. Yeah, 281 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit about Um. Well, first 282 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: of all, let's talk about two thousand. Uh. I've got 283 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: one event in two thousand five. This was before we went, 284 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: but in two thousand five, we have to talk about 285 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: all the the embarrassing moment for Bill Gates. Yeah, that 286 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: that you know what, and doing the research for this, 287 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: I wanted to look for products and things that made 288 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: their debut, and that one was mentioned in several and 289 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: it kind of kind of feel terrible about it. You 290 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: know that so many people remember it. Sometimes stuff doesn't 291 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: be that's the problem. So yeah, for that to happen 292 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: to the company's founder and on a keynote speech, here's 293 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: here's what happened, because you know, we're dancing around it. 294 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: So Bill Gates is up on stage and he is 295 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: uh uh He's demonstrating a Windows Media Center to a 296 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: crowd at c e S and as he's demonstrating it, 297 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: the system crashes and he gets the blue screen of death. 298 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: So imagine being the CEO of a company. You're showing 299 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: off your latest product on on a device that has 300 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: had its share of jokes directed at it for its 301 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: the you know, the fact that it does tend to crash, 302 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: and that the when it does crash, you get this 303 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: blue screen. For that to happen in public on the stage, 304 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: that had to have been a little, uh, you know, 305 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: a little bit embarrassing, and the press had a pretty 306 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: good time with it, and it still does. So anytime 307 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: you see like a wrap up of big moments and 308 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: c e S like Chris was saying, it tends to 309 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: be included. Um, Um and I have one more big moment, 310 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: uh in a similar vein that I think can can 311 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: easily launch us into the second half of our podcast 312 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: where we talk about what it's like to be at 313 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: the show. Um, Jonathan and I. The only time that 314 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: Jonathan and I attended c e S together was in 315 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: two thousand eight. Yes, and there was another Um. I 316 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: hate to use the term epic fail but this is 317 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: this was painful and in its obviousness, Um, I know 318 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: what you're going for, but I want to hear it. 319 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: We had an opportunity to be on the show floor 320 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: early because we were members of the media, so we 321 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: got a chance to kind of see. Now, most of 322 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: the booths were kind of wrapped off so that you 323 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,119 Speaker 1: couldn't see it. But um, if you look at some 324 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 1: of those old photo sets of old c e s s, 325 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: the boosts were very bland. It would be a white 326 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: booth with the name of the company written on it. Well, okay, 327 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: it was black and white, so it looks like a 328 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 1: white booth with a name in the company, very very 329 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: sober in comparison with today's where they have elaborate displays 330 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: with speakers and all kinds of brilliant marketing materials. They 331 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 1: might even overlays of stuff so that the cubicle doesn't 332 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: look like so that the cube doesn't look like a cube, 333 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: it looks like something else. Sure, sure, yeah, And in 334 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: some cases, um, you know, you can't really see in 335 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 1: it before they've started the show, and in some cases 336 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: they can't hide what's going on. So we're walking around 337 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 1: the show floor and getting an idea of what what 338 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: we're going to get an opportunity to see the next day. 339 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: And on on one side we see Sony's enormous pirate 340 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: ship of the Blu Ray display. Yeah. So yeah, they 341 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: actually had a this this UH set essentially and it 342 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: was of pirates of the Caribbean. Uh. And they had 343 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: this big pirate ship type set in the middle of 344 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: their booths. Now, now, some of these booths are small, 345 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: like some of them, some of them are only as 346 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: slightly larger than what you would find an office cubicle. Yeah, 347 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: I mean their marketing. Marketing dollars don't grow on trees 348 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: for some companies because they are paying for square footage 349 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: at this event and other other ones especially you know 350 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: of course from the big companies are enormous, enormous booths Panasonic. 351 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: So this is taking place. Most of these booths are 352 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: at the Las Vegas Convention Center, which has I think 353 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 1: three and a half million square feet of space. Yes, 354 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: and and and c e s these days. It's not 355 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 1: just one building, No, it's in many other floors. Um. 356 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: But anyway, you were saying, so the Blue Ray, the 357 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Blue Ray presence is there, and it was obvious and 358 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: then a couple rows over. It wasn't even that far. 359 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: It was on the same show floor. It was was 360 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: the and this is again one of our very first 361 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: podcasts that we did back when we were five minutes long. 362 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: HD DVD versus Blu Ray. Right, h D DVD was 363 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: supposed to be at CS and the week before c 364 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 1: E S there was a big stink because Warner Brothers 365 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: announced that it was going to be exclusively Blu Ray 366 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: from that moment on. And that was one of the 367 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: few big movie studios that had still been backing h 368 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: D DVD at that point. H D DVD they which 369 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: was from Toshiba, right had the Toshiba had decided to 370 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: pull the h D DVD presence from c e S 371 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: rather than have to endure a week long uh onslaught 372 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: of questions about what are you going to do now? Yeah, yeah, 373 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: and that was that was the thing they were. Um, 374 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: there were rumors that there was something going to happen 375 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: with h D DVD. UH, I guess in the weeks prior, 376 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,400 Speaker 1: and then it happened right before they had the set 377 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 1: in place on the show floor and it essentially never opened. UM, 378 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and we didn't know. We got the announcement while we 379 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: were there, um that they were they were going to 380 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: do it, and then as we were there they said, yeah, 381 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: we're done. Yeah, So that was pretty much the end 382 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: of h D DVD. I had that down too. Yeah. 383 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: That also was two thousand eight was a big year 384 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: for UH for cs There were a hundred and forty 385 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: one thousand attendees, so up from that seventeen five hundred previously, 386 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 1: just just a few more. Now. I actually wrote down 387 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: the a couple of just little facts about every year 388 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: from two thousand eight to because we were you know, 389 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 1: I attended all of those, So just a couple of 390 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,159 Speaker 1: little notes. So you covered h D DVD, which was 391 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: one of the notes I had for two thousand and eight. 392 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: The number of attendees was another. And also I have 393 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: what c net picked out as the best of CSA 394 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: because c is the official streaming partner of c E 395 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: S or was in for those years, and so c 396 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: net always holds an awards um ceremony where what they 397 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: do is their editors go and hit the floor and 398 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: they all look at all the different tech out there, 399 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: and then they get together and they decide what is 400 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: the what is the best thing on the floor, and 401 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: I think it'll be interested to hear what one over 402 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: some of these years, because they're not all good stories. 403 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: So two thousand and eight s NET Awards, this one's 404 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 1: not bad. Is the Phillips Eco TV show. Yeah, this 405 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: is a forty two in ten a d p H 406 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: d t V that had a lot of energy saving 407 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 1: technology built into it. Because two eight, I think Chris 408 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: can remember this to two thousand eight, I think was 409 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 1: the big trend was green technology in two thousand eight. Um. 410 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: Now you can usually spot some pretty pretty prevalent trends 411 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: each year at C has to do you attend what 412 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: we can talk a little bit about that as well. 413 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 1: Two thousand nine, UM, that was the when the l 414 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: G Watch phone was on the show floor, which never 415 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: came to the United States, but it made a huge 416 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: hit at the show. Yeah, I got a lot of 417 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: buzz because everyone's saying, oh, it's the Dick Tracy watch. 418 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: Except's got video and everything, and it's a touchscreen interface. 419 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,160 Speaker 1: And you know what, we don't have the LG watch phone, 420 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: but we do have the iPod Nano that has a 421 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 1: lot of the same functionality, just not the phone part. 422 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Uh So that's kind of interesting. But what one that 423 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 1: year Senets prize went to the Palm Pre, which is 424 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: kind of sad. So justin short, Palm Pre from from 425 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: from Palm never really took off. It very much impressed everyone. 426 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: Everyone thought that it was going to be a real 427 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: uh competitor to the iPhone. Yeah, that was basically the 428 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: debut of their brand new operating system. And then it 429 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: just never got traction it. It took about six months 430 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: from CS before it even hit the market, and by 431 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: then the buzzard died down, so it never really took off. 432 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: HP ended up buying Palm. Uh. They Palm phones began 433 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: to disappear, webOS became a tablet only thing, and then 434 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: happened and no one really was sure what was going 435 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,640 Speaker 1: to happen with webOS because they first HP was saying 436 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: we're done with it, and they're like, no, we're not 437 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: done with it, So we don't know if we're done 438 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: with it. And now they're saying we're not done with 439 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: it and we're moving it to open source. So that's 440 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: been the journey of webOS since c E S two 441 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: thousand nine. Yeah, pretty crazy. And we did a whole 442 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,919 Speaker 1: episode on Palm so You can listen to that if 443 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 1: you want to know more about that company. The big 444 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: thing I remember from twenty tenness seeing intels ne Haleen 445 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: processor running. I had written an article about the Newhalen 446 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: processor and this time I got a chance to see it, 447 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: and I was very much impressed. The big win for 448 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: that year was Panasonics three D h D t V. 449 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: That's what Senate gave the award to. And of course 450 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: three D television still has not really taken hold. It 451 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: just hasn't really gained that much attraction. There are a 452 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: lot of televisions out there that have three D built 453 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: into them, but we have not seen three D become 454 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: a real powerhouse in home entertainment. Yeah, and and actually 455 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 1: you you're mentioning, um uh, the Nehleen processor kind of 456 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: reminded me to a lot of the stuff on the 457 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: show floor. I mean, we've we've had many people, uh 458 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: tell us that they think going to see e S 459 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: would be a whole lot of fun. And yeah, in 460 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: some ways, getting the chance to see these gadgets and 461 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: and and cool toys and talk to Yeah that that 462 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: party is kind of cool. But there's a lot of 463 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: stuff where I mean looking at a motherboard with an 464 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: a Haleen processor. I mean what Intel does when they 465 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: show that kind of thing off, um, is they show 466 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: a computer running stuff that you know, they're talking about 467 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: the the optimization, but if you look at the processor, 468 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a chip. So there's there's a 469 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: lot of stuff there that's just and it's good and 470 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: it's important, and it's it's nice to have in your 471 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: next computer. You know, Oh man, look how fast that is. 472 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: I'd like to have that. But you don't stay there 473 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: all day and just marveling at it because it's the 474 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: coolest thing. Every is cool. Can talk about some of 475 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: that also going to get into our personal experiences because 476 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: I've got a whole rant I could go on, but 477 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: not about Intel though they're they're expected to show a 478 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: new processor this year, right. Yeah, I saw sandy Bridge 479 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: last year, and again that was very impressive. So that 480 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,959 Speaker 1: was something for last year being this year as we're 481 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: recording it, but last year when you're listening to this, Yeah, 482 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: I saw I saw sandy Bridge and that was very interesting. Um. 483 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: That was also it was a big year for tablets 484 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: and smartphones last year. The Motorola Atrix, which was the 485 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: smartphone that could dock with a a laptop like docking device, 486 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: and it could power that laptop, so you were actually 487 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: using the smartphones operating system but in a laptop form factor. Uh, 488 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: BlackBerry Playbook was there to play with. That was the 489 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: first time I got my hands on one of those, 490 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: um lots of different devices seen. That gave the award 491 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: to the Motorola Zoom, which again just never really I mean, 492 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: it hasn't done terrible and the it's not it's not 493 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: it's not a fair you're or anything in the market, 494 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: but I don't think it ended up making as big 495 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,200 Speaker 1: a splash as we thought back when we were at CES. Yeah, 496 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: and part of that is just you know that that 497 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: was sporting the new Honeycomb build of Android. Well within 498 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: that same year, we've seen ice Cream Sandwich come out 499 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:24,719 Speaker 1: or at least unveiled, So I mean that's that's one 500 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: of the issues with CS two is that sometimes the 501 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: stuff that you see at the show that you think 502 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: is going to be like, oh my gosh, I can't 503 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: wait for this to hit the market. It's gonna be 504 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: the next big thing. Some of it, some of it 505 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: never comes to market, and some of it will come 506 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: to market and then just fizzle. Uh. Let me get 507 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: my let me get the one item that never came 508 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: to market that just drove me crazy. This is the 509 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: Lenovo you won. The Lenovo you won, which was a 510 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: notebook computer where you could detach the screen from the 511 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: base of the computer and it would become a tablet. 512 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: And it actually had two different rating systems. When it 513 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,200 Speaker 1: was a notebook computer, it was running Windows seven. The 514 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,119 Speaker 1: original build I saw, when you detached the screen, it 515 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: would switch to a Linux based operating system. The second 516 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: time I saw it, which was c S. I can't 517 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: remember if it was the first time or nine. Anyway, 518 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: the second time I saw it, they had switched the 519 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,360 Speaker 1: tablet operating system over to Android. Uh. And in both 520 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: cases they were hoping to aim for a summer release 521 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: and it never happened. It did there was some limited 522 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: releases in China, but nothing in the United States. And 523 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: I this was the tablet device I really wanted because 524 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: I wanted something that I could use as a full 525 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: computer or I could detach the screen and use that 526 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: as a tablet so that I could preload all the 527 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: things I needed before detaching the tablet part and then 528 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: i'd have it to refer to on the tablet. That way, 529 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: for all the heavy data processing type stuff or word processing, 530 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: word intrigue kind of things, I could use a keyboard 531 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: instead of a touch screen to vice and Um and 532 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 1: you know, I'm still uh still said that that never 533 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: really came out. Um, but yeah, let's talk about what 534 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: it's like when you go to c e S. We 535 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: can We'll mostly be talking about from the perspective of 536 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: press because that's what we are. We we haven't we've 537 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: never exhibited at c S. Yeah. Well it's uh, I 538 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: can I can say that it's if you're interested in 539 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: gadgets or you're a member of the media, it's the 540 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: experience is not going to be terribly difficult because, um, 541 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to see as much of the show 542 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: as you can. Now that the show takes the better 543 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 1: part of a week. Um. And you know, as as 544 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: as I mentioned and Jonathan mentioned before, Um, it's quite 545 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: a lot of square footage in terms of show space. Um, 546 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: it's grown very, very large. There's even an outdoor section 547 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: where they have mobile electronics and things. Car cars, Um, yeah, 548 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: that that was the first time I saw a Fiat 549 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: five hundred because Microsoft was showing off it's uh uh Sinc. 550 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: Operating system and they had a Fiat five there and 551 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, man, look at this. They brought a 552 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: Fiat overseas for just for this show. Um. A lot 553 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: of the audio exhibitors are in hotel suites in one 554 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: of the nearby hotels because you know, you don't want 555 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: to you don't want to have to try and just 556 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: and and show off your your high end audio equipment 557 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: on a show floor that's just clamoring with noise. You 558 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: need to have your own little area so that you've 559 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: at least kind of blocked out most of the ambient 560 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: noise so people can really hear what your stuff can do. Yeah, 561 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: to to quote Dr. Seuss, oh the noise, noise, noise, noise, 562 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: it's it's allowed environment. People are talking. There's media playing 563 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: from from pretty much everywhere. Yeah, the central hall, you get, 564 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: um uh, there's usually a few. The one the one 565 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: audio areas you'll hear the most are from our are 566 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: the the car sets, like the the the audio stereo 567 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: systems that go into cars. Those tend to actually on 568 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: the show floor and they tend to drown everything else out. 569 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: I know, that when Leo Report first got his This 570 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: Weekend Tech table set up over at CS he was 571 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: put directly across from an area where they had several 572 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 1: of these exhibitors showing off these incredibly powerful stereo systems. 573 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: And so through most of the twit footage of that 574 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: first year, you hear doom, doom, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, 575 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,479 Speaker 1: like in the background, and like people are shaking when 576 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: they're sitting there at the table. It was pretty intense. 577 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: Had in two thousand eight one night when we went 578 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: they even had Marine Electronics stand boats. Yeah, yeah, and 579 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: uh interesting. So some of these, some of these booths 580 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: that you'll you would see are are wide and spread 581 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: out and and in some cases it's that the company 582 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: wants to make a big statement but doesn't necessarily have 583 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: that much to show. UM. Sometimes it's that they need 584 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: the space. Like the Parrot drone. The first time I 585 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: saw that. You know, that's the it's got four helicopter 586 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: type blades. Yeah, quadricopter. That's that's not bad UM and 587 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: you can control it through and a mobile device it 588 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: was it used to just be UM iPhone, but they've 589 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: expanded it a little bit since then. But that was 590 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: really pretty cool UM and took up a lot of space, 591 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: but it was it was it consistently drew crowds. Taser 592 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: tends to have its own space. Last year, I saw 593 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: them tasering people. That was kind of interesting. Yeah, but 594 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: it was I got a real charge out of it. 595 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: For every booth that you see that has really cool 596 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: tech in it, they're about fifteen booths that have things 597 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: like computer cases or smartphone cases or smartphone decals to 598 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: put on, like stuff that's accessories for things that you 599 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: already own. So it's not as exciting. It's definitely stuff 600 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: that people want. So that's why it's at the trade show, 601 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: because red tailors are going to be looking around to 602 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: see what's available and say, oh, you know what, I 603 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: want my store to carry this line of smartphone case 604 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: because I think that would really move UM. But as 605 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 1: a as a member of the press or maybe just 606 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: a member of the general public, if somehow you've found 607 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: your way into see yes, it wouldn't necessarily be like, 608 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, look at that smartphone case. Well, and 609 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: some of them manufacturers too, aren't necessarily cutting edge. You 610 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: might see a headphone manufacturer there and they're not making 611 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: uh the latest noise canceling headphones or that Hey, that 612 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: would come in handy at ces or um Uh, you know, 613 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: the the high end cans that you see, um people 614 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: paying three or more dollars. Where you'll see low cost headphones. Look, 615 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: we've made uh you know, earbuds with better response uh 616 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: that retail for and and that's not gonna be exciting 617 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: news necessarily, but it might be for retailers who are going, hey, 618 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: I can I can offer a wider range of low 619 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: cost stuff and selves in my store. Um. There are 620 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: a lot of manufacturers from overseas who are showing off 621 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 1: UM how they've been able to manufacture things in smaller 622 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: packages and uh and for lower costs. UM, so you 623 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: might be able to to fill out your low range 624 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: if you're looking for stuff to include in your store. Yeah, 625 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: there's actually an entire section that's essentially from Asian um markets, 626 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 1: and it's all these really tiny booths filled with some 627 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: of it's filled with some of the weirdest electronics you've 628 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,439 Speaker 1: ever seen. Like it's all the stuff that you would 629 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: typically say wow that that clearly had to come from 630 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: Japan because it's just so unusual but um, but also 631 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the other like the less expensive, the 632 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: more affordable types of electronics. Sample, not the cutting edge stuff, 633 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: but the stuff that has been refined to a point 634 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: where the price has really come down. UM. And then 635 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,399 Speaker 1: there are other sections of the floor where you're gonna 636 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna see the cutting edge, like the top stuff 637 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: that's coming out the next year. UM. These are usually 638 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: from the really really big companies. Once in a while, 639 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: a small company will will really throw you and you'll 640 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: you'll go to some small booth and you're like, Wow, 641 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: the parrot drone in a way was like that. A 642 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: lot of people said, Wow, that's really innovative. UM. But 643 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: more often than not, you're going to see people talking 644 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: about the big companies like Sony, Pana, sonic, Um, Toshiba, Toshiba, YEP, 645 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: LG LG always has a really big presence there, Um, Intel, Microsoft, Uh. 646 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,760 Speaker 1: These are the companies that have some of the largest 647 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 1: booth spaces on there. Like some of the booth spaces 648 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: for some of these companies are the same as if 649 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: you took ten of the other exhibitors together and put 650 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: them all in the same space. Oh yeah, I mean 651 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: these places are are in a lot of cases larger 652 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: than a small retail store. Um and and the the 653 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 1: result of that is you can spend a whole day 654 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: looking at a small section of the floor because you 655 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: need a few minutes to take in what it is 656 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: you're looking at. So, I mean, you could spend a 657 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: lot of time on your feet looking around, and it's 658 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,720 Speaker 1: it can be wearying, especially if you're carrying twenty pounds 659 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: of paper press kits or and six pounds of laptop. 660 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: They don't they don't do the paper press kits as 661 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: much anymore. But no, wait, there was a point. I 662 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: remember Chris and I both at one point took out 663 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: all the press kits we had and it was it 664 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 1: was probably combined, it's probably at least fifty pounds of paper. Yeah, 665 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: thankfully they don't do that anymore. Now. It tends to 666 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: either be on a thumb drive or they give you 667 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,479 Speaker 1: a card that has a link to an online press scott, 668 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,560 Speaker 1: which is so much better. Also, it makes it way 669 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,280 Speaker 1: easier to get hold of things like images and stuff 670 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: if you need to run an article, So that that fantastic. 671 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: Keep that up the but it goes on for days. 672 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you can after the first day or so, 673 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: you can be quite tired. Yeah, periods, and there's there's 674 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: just a lot to see. There are three main halls 675 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: in the convention Center, the North Hall, Central Hall, in 676 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: South Hall, and South Hall is the one that I 677 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: typically hit first, and they're most several of the big 678 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: name companies are in South Hall. Central Hall has more 679 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,640 Speaker 1: of the big name companies, and I believe it's the 680 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,839 Speaker 1: Central Hall that has two floors, which makes that even 681 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,239 Speaker 1: more intimidating. And then the North Hall tends to have 682 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: a lot of the vehicle stuff. Some of it's in 683 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 1: the Central Hall, but most of the vehicle stuffs in 684 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: the North Hall, the stuff that's not on display outside 685 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: the convention Center UM. And so you also, they also 686 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: will have special zones set up now at CES, so 687 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: like they'll have a green zone area where they've got 688 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: a lot of exhibitors who all specialize in green technology together. 689 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: They'll have an educational zone, They'll have a Senior citizen 690 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: type zone, so technology that's specifically geared toward UM meeting 691 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: the needs of elderly users. So that's kind of interesting 692 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: that you know, these different zones can be in various 693 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: halls that all depends on you know, how c S 694 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 1: is arranged that particular year. Uh, then you've got all 695 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: the different um ones that are in the the nearby hotels. 696 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: Um for example, the Venetian off often has its own 697 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: the audio section. Also, the Venetian and Sands Expo Center 698 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: tends to have a hall display hall as well. It's 699 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: a smaller one, doesn't have as many big names in it, 700 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: but it's another It's another exhibitor hall, so it's not 701 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: just the Las Vegas Convention Center, which is already huge. 702 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: The Hilton tends to have several suites that people are using, 703 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: the exhibitors are using. Sometimes you have companies that don't 704 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: rent space at c S, but they show up and 705 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: get a suite at a hotel and then they try 706 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 1: and entice you to come over to the hotel so 707 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: they can show off their stuff without actually being part 708 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: of the CS. So there's that issue as well. And 709 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: then they're all the parties. Okay, so people who have 710 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,840 Speaker 1: never been to ce S who are saying, Wow, this 711 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: sounds like it's incredible. I can't and there are parties 712 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: that sounds amazing. Let me tell you what a c 713 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: S parties like. So CES party. You will, you will 714 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 1: eat well, and you will you could potentially drink as well. 715 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 1: I don't drink, so that means nothing to me. Um. 716 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 1: I mean I drink water, but I don't drink alcohol, 717 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: so that means nothing to me. But you go, you'll 718 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: see some cool tech and then you try and talk 719 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: over the sound of everyone else talking plus the ambient 720 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 1: music which is usually about three, three or four times 721 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 1: louder that needs to be in order to explain who 722 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: you are and and and find out more about this product. 723 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: It's all business talk. It's not it's not fun stuff 724 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: like it's not. It's not a part of you go 725 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: to to have fun. It's part of you go to 726 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,800 Speaker 1: to network to get a little more information about stuff. 727 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: It's still working. So it's not like, um, you know, 728 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: you're you're dancing the night away. It's not like that. 729 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: Although maybe there are some of those ce S parties 730 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: and those are just the ones I've never gone to. 731 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 1: Uh So now at this point I tend to I'll 732 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 1: try and go to a party now and then because 733 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 1: it is a really good way to network with people, 734 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: and it is a very good way. Like if you 735 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: if you write about how stuff works, like I do. 736 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: It can be invaluable to get the business card of 737 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: an executive so that you can contact that person and say, hey, 738 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm working on this article about the thing that you 739 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,879 Speaker 1: specialize in. Is there anyone at your company I could 740 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,240 Speaker 1: speak with so I could get an expert on involved 741 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: in in writing this article. It's incredible, But now I 742 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,839 Speaker 1: will often try and save the time after the show 743 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,720 Speaker 1: floor closes to getting together with some of my peers 744 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: in tech journalism to sit down and just kind of 745 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: talk about what we saw and kind of share knowledge, 746 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: because there's a lot of that at c e S. 747 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: It's nice, you know, you don't see a lot of 748 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: at least in my experience, I don't see a lot 749 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: of journalists kind of shutting themselves off from everyone else 750 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: and not talking for fear of losing the scoop. It 751 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: tends to be a lot of people sharing their information 752 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: and kind of, you know, figuring out what are the trends, 753 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 1: what what are was it that we're seeing? Was this 754 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: mean for the upcoming year? And that, to me is 755 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: is fascinating. That's one of the parts that I like 756 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: the most about c es SO. Sitting around in the 757 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: old what used to be the Star Trek experience at 758 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: the Hilton with with folks from the Twit network or 759 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:14,839 Speaker 1: from uh from Revision three or from c Net. That's 760 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: that's fantastic. I love that. But it's uh yeah, it's 761 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: not all fun and games, that's for sure. Um No, 762 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: it's a lot of work. It is, and it is 763 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: probably it's one of the most physically tolling things I've 764 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: had to do it. How stuff works, it's by the 765 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,279 Speaker 1: end of the day, you you feel it, and then 766 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: you get up and do it again. Here's here's a 767 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 1: hint for any of you who are doing ce S 768 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 1: for the first time this year. If you're listening to this, 769 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 1: you might be too late. So if it's the first 770 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: time you're doing c S will be Here's here's what 771 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: you do. You need to know. If you plan on 772 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: doing something after the show floor closes and you go 773 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: back to your hotel room to set stuff down so 774 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: that you can go back out, do not do not 775 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 1: sit down and or lie down, because that's it. You're 776 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: not moving again. I have made that mistake so many times. 777 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: But I mean, oh, those chairs and beds just look 778 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: so comforting after you've been on your feet all day long. 779 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's a very interesting trade show. I don't 780 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: think it's as phenomenal or magical as outsiders seem to 781 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: think it is. I mean, but that's because I've covered 782 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,120 Speaker 1: it for four years now. So um, if you if 783 00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: you were to experience it the way I try and 784 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,320 Speaker 1: explain to people as if you're a journalist, imagine walking 785 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,479 Speaker 1: into the world's largest shopping mall, but every single store 786 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,399 Speaker 1: just sells electronics, and it's your job to go into 787 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: every single store and look at every single shelf, at 788 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 1: every single device, and then you're going to write up 789 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: what the best was when you're done. And the problem 790 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:50,360 Speaker 1: is that the devices are you know, it's not that 791 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 1: they're bad, they're just not interesting. And you have to 792 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: do this through the entire mall. That's not fun. But 793 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: there are fun elements to it. When you do stumble 794 00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: across that thing that that is debuting for the very 795 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: first time at c e S, there is a level 796 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: of excitement there that is, you know, it's hard, you 797 00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: can't dismiss that is pretty pretty incredible to experience. I 798 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed that. Look back now, if you are 799 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: at CS in two thousand fifteen, you might actually see 800 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: me there. Be sure to swing by the Sharp Booth, 801 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: where I'll be exploring how display technology has become so 802 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: important in our lives. And as always, if you have 803 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: a suggestion for a future episode, or you just want 804 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: to write in and say hi, my address is tech 805 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 1: stuff at how stuff works dot com. You can also 806 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 1: contact me on Facebook, Twitter or tumbler. I've got the 807 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: handle of tech stuff hs W. We'll talk to you 808 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 1: again really soon. 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