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Speaker 5: it's me, Matt and the booth. We're talking Patriots and

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Speaker 5: there's a lot to talk about. People coming in. We

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Speaker 5: know all the ocs, but now we're adding other people.

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Speaker 5: Ben McAdoo, Ben.

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Speaker 3: McAdoo, Is that has that happened?

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Speaker 6: There was another? Just plsera. I believe there was just

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Speaker 6: a recent report that it was they're hiring him. I

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Speaker 6: know there was one. I think Friday Montgomery, they were

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Speaker 3: With him Montgomery. That's done.

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Speaker 1: There's one from thirty seven minutes ago. Is it Gari.

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Speaker 6: Careful?

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Speaker 5: And what's he's saying?

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Speaker 1: The Patriots are hiring him as an offensive assistant coach.

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Speaker 5: Bat Macado and then Montgomery as offensive line coach. Defensive

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Speaker 5: line coach. Okay, so we still don't have well, well,

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Speaker 5: I still here, but we there's still a search for

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, Ree you know, tweeted out that Pillogrino

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Speaker 8: and Brian Belichick, you know, seem like they're in line

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Speaker 8: to stay Steve Belichick reportedly and Vinnie Cinceri going to

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Speaker 8: like there's still some work to do on the offensive

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Speaker 8: but you're right, they need wide receiver offensive line.

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Speaker 5: Troy is still here, but I don't know what his

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yea, So.

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Speaker 5: It was interesting I heard that he was at the

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Speaker 5: Senior ball Obviously he was the offensive coordinator there, but

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Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. I mean, considering I'm sure

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Speaker 5: Maybe.

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Speaker 8: The funny thing was one of the other coaches I

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Speaker 6: So I think there's a lot of that kind of

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Speaker 8: You're kind of in limbo here in early February, and

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Speaker 5: But speaking of people wearing stuff, did have you seen

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Speaker 5: So how are we feeling do we? You know, about

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Speaker 6: It's hard it's it's almost like Van Pelt again, there's.

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Speaker 6: Who their quarterback is going to be.

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Speaker 8: I mean, there's so many players to be added, and

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Speaker 8: You're hoping that, you know, these guys with varied experience

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Speaker 5: I think, you know, we've been on the right track

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Speaker 5: because we were just talking last Wait. They really need

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, it makes sense that ma I could do.

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Speaker 5: A little right, And Elliott Wolfe is.

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Speaker 5: And Elliott, I mean it seems like they're leaning on

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that makes sense too. He's the only guy

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Speaker 5: And and and this is the way the NFL works, though,

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Speaker 5: whether it's good or bad. Like everybody you know, falls

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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's like I said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: Now, you know, I feel like you should take a

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Speaker 1: hoping that by hiring maybe you're hiring some some old

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Speaker 1: But I do they're open to taking some risks because

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Speaker 5: Well, I think the biggest risk that the Patriots did

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Speaker 5: was Gerard Mayo.

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Speaker 5: That's a big risk, you know, and now we're trying

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Speaker 5: to make sure that that risk pays off. You know.

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Speaker 1: I am intrigued because I wasn't hearing for you guys

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Speaker 1: emergency podcast on Friday with the hiring of the coordinators.

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Speaker 1: I am intrigued to see, you know why they hired

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Speaker 1: him so fast, you know, after one interview, just they

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Speaker 1: were so intrigued by him that they hired him so fast.

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Speaker 5: I didn't let him out of the room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when there's so many people like Eric Bin and me,

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Speaker 1: for example, It's like, why don't you bring him in

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Speaker 3: For a while.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And I'm just wondering how much input Girod Mayo's

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Speaker 6: How are they going to build it from?

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Speaker 8: You know, from the early days of off season training

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Speaker 8: But we'll see what he takes from it from those things,

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Speaker 8: and you know, does it does it have to marry

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Speaker 5: Or you know, does it have to marry to whoever

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Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. I feel like it's

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Speaker 6: Right, And it does.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm seeing things too that McAdoo, I guess

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Speaker 8: like what offense are they going to install? It's just like,

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Speaker 8: How can they hit four players that can come in

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Speaker 6: You can't make you three.

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about quarterback, wide receiver, and tackle. Yeah right, yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just need them to get a good player or

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Hey, what do you want me to do?

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Speaker 5: I go shoot for the skin, shoot for the stars.

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Speaker 3: Tough grader.

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Speaker 5: Well, if that that fourth guy can be just a contributor,

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Speaker 6: Well, just start with the first two picks.

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Speaker 8: I mean, even if you stay a third overall, in

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Speaker 8: don't think it's too much much to ask that those

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Speaker 8: that's you know, that's the baseline. If you if you

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Speaker 3: They'll play. I mean they're gonna, I agree, they'll step

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Speaker 3: right in. I'm talking about like knocking them out of

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Speaker 3: the park, nailing the picks. Yeah, that's hard for you know,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we do, Paul, We're due.

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Speaker 5: No, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: If we look back at too many drafts and see

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Speaker 8: Ah, well, what about like I mean, O three, they

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Speaker 8: got Copham's starting center, A Sante Samuel stepped right in

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Speaker 8: at corner and contributed I mean not maybe not star

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Speaker 5: Yep, those are three good contributor.

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Speaker 3: I think you could do that.

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Speaker 8: Sure, yeah, there's opportunities though, you know, I mean you

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Speaker 5: We're looking for a franchise quarterback. Eugene was a wide receiver.

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Speaker 5: Aren't we looking for a wide receiver? One?

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Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, but that's that's what I'm talking about. Tackle

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Speaker 3: you can get, you can get like a guy who

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Speaker 3: But are you going to get Jamar Chase?

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Speaker 1: So what do we make of the report? That has

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Speaker 1: the Patriots will take a good hard look at drafting

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Speaker 1: a tackle at three.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm Paul and I were the same. I

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Speaker 8: just I don't think you can draft a tackle it three.

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Speaker 5: Why did they say, why did they draw the correlation

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Speaker 5: how do we know that?

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Speaker 8: I mean, my my, What I was assuming the point

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Speaker 3: I think it was a report, you know, like with

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Speaker 3: someone saying that that they had talked to somebody. Wasn't

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Speaker 3: it the athletic athletic? Yeah, So I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just think it's hard to take a tackle of three.

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Speaker 8: And I mean, and whoever's mock draft went out yesterday

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Speaker 8: first round. So it's you know, it's just it goes

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Speaker 8: like this is the bigger philosophy discussion, and the same

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Speaker 8: thing applies to Marvin Harrison and this receiver draft class

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Speaker 8: is when you have a big group of guys, how

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Speaker 8: can get one of these guys and we'll be fine.

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Speaker 8: Like at this point, I kind of am like, if

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Speaker 8: we stay at three, I think I'm saying it should

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Speaker 8: be Marvin Harrison right now as we sit at three,

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Speaker 8: if you stay there, that that that to me, regardless

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Speaker 8: of everything that's being overthought about drafting a wide receiver,

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Speaker 8: like you have a chance at one of two probably

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Speaker 6: I mean, I said similar stuff to this on Friday.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, well, and you can point to everything there's

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Speaker 8: there's there's plenty of tackles that went in the top

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Speaker 6: There's wide receivers that never won.

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Speaker 3: I saw some reports out of the Senior Ball that

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Speaker 3: there's at least three guys that do not believe that

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Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison is the best wide receiver in the draft.

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Speaker 5: When you say guys, you mean other scouts.

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Speaker 3: NFL teams. According to this guy that I saw on

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Speaker 3: Molik Neighbors ahead of I don't, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean, I don't totally Harrison disagree with that.

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Speaker 5: If that's that's the case, then Marvin Harrison hype was no,

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Speaker 5: it was just hype because.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I think he's really good.

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Speaker 5: I know, I know, but we were told there's no

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Speaker 3: That's that's where I have been sort of reluctant to embrace.

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Speaker 3: But now, how much better is he than than a

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Speaker 5: We were told I was in lad Ma Conker and

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Speaker 5: we were told, you know, months ago, there's not even

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I just how long have you sit

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Speaker 8: And we've got all these like fu Cockta methods of

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Speaker 8: year method, you know, his fifth year. Oh, we'll go

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Speaker 8: trade a second round for a J. Brown, And get like,

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Speaker 8: isn't there an argument to be made, like hey, let's

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Speaker 8: And I'll be the first to say that when I

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Speaker 6: I watched Neighbors and I was like, holy crap, this

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Speaker 3: And that's when you.

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Speaker 6: Like this Knabbors, who's this guy?

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Speaker 8: So, I mean, I get, I get what Paul is saying,

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Speaker 6: But there's a big difference between those time and in.

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Speaker 3: Fairness, if you pass on Harrison at three, you you're

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Speaker 5: Well, that's for sure. So like, let's just say you

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Speaker 3: I would think so, But I would think.

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Speaker 8: I mean, but now that lock you could be the

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Speaker 5: So now we're through two rounds and we don't have

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Speaker 1: Now Now I'm like, I feel like I'm even more

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Now, I'm just those are the out cards.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think if Drake May was available or

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Speaker 8: Like you know, I think it's too soon to take

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Speaker 5: What if you draft down and you can you draft

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Speaker 3: Trade down and get two first round picks within this year?

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Speaker 3: Does anybody, I mean anyone happens to Chicago the only

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so no, no, but I did get someone in

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Speaker 5: But you could draft down, get a second. You know,

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Speaker 6: Back up and grab one of the quarterbacks or but

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Speaker 5: Well, then you could get a good tackle and a

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Speaker 3: That's kind of my point, like you're ending up with

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Speaker 5: Have gone in a second you go.

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Speaker 8: The veteran free agent route, or yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 3: starting to say about the mail bag. A guy wrote in,

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Speaker 3: and we've had a lot of that trade down. They

442
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Speaker 3: might kind of started it, you know, because he wants

443
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Speaker 3: the trade down now, and I'm not Normally I I

444
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Speaker 3: go all Eric Scalavino, and I do not want any

445
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Speaker 3: part of trading down. But I do understand in this

446
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Speaker 3: particular situation, if you don't like the quarterback that you're

447
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Speaker 3: left with at three, then maybe moving down is the

448
00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,240
Speaker 3: right thing. But specifically with Chicago, to go from three

449
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Speaker 3: to nine. And he brought up Justin Fields the email.

450
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Speaker 3: You know, I would give his name, but I forget

451
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Speaker 3: the name of the poster who sent that into the

452
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Speaker 3: mailbag today. And I hadn't really heard anything specific to well,

453
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Speaker 3: I just see a trade down, take a tackle, you

454
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Speaker 3: know whatever. But this is specifically trade down from three

455
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Speaker 3: to nine and get Justin Fields. And they say they're

456
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Speaker 3: looking for like a second or third round pick. So

457
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Speaker 3: if you give them three to switch places with nine,

458
00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 3: now they have to give you stuff, you know, and

459
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Speaker 3: if you can maybe hold them over a barrel and

460
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Speaker 3: get some because they probably would take Harrison, you know,

461
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Speaker 3: with their first pick. So then if you can get

462
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Speaker 3: you know, to nine, you could get a really good

463
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Speaker 3: tackle or a really good wide receiver, whatever one you

464
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Speaker 3: think is better, and probably add some other picks. But

465
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Speaker 3: now that's contingent on you thinking Justin Fields is the

466
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Speaker 3: veteran guide that you want to bring in. Yeah, yeah,

467
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Speaker 3: And I don't think that everybody is in agreement on.

468
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Speaker 8: That, no, And I mean it's just it's so hard

469
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Speaker 8: to watch the pre go by with all the tackles,

470
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Speaker 8: with how badly you need a tackle, and to say

471
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Speaker 8: we've got a generational kind of class potentially we'll see

472
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Speaker 8: how it works out.

473
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Speaker 3: You're right, because they're just like every other position, there's

474
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Speaker 3: gonna be some that hit and some that are gonna miss.

475
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Speaker 5: You're gonna get your Robert Gallery and you're gonna get

476
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Speaker 5: your Jeremy Tunzel.

477
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Speaker 3: Laramie Tunzel. What's that Laramie Lamy hunting him as a hit?

478
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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, So you get one or the other.

479
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Speaker 8: Yeah, No, it's uh. And I mean I feel, you know,

480
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,960
Speaker 8: similar about the wide receiver. It's more so just the top,

481
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Speaker 8: you know, group of them. I feel like you get

482
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Speaker 8: past a certain point. But it's it's limited quarterbacks this year,

483
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Speaker 8: and I don't know, I just to be honest, I

484
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Speaker 8: don't really beyond like May and and you know, Daniel's

485
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Speaker 8: Like it's hard to really love bo Nix or JJ McCarthy.

486
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Speaker 1: After what I saw last week at the Senior Bowl.

487
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean the kid from Tennessee, Joe Milton, like,

488
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 8: you know, like it's these guys, these guys aren't going

489
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Speaker 8: to be a star quarter back in the NFL that's

490
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Speaker 8: gonna take you to the you know.

491
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Speaker 5: So maybe we can trade for Connor Stetson or whatever

492
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Speaker 5: his n sets and.

493
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Speaker 6: Bennetts Oh oh, yeah, from him lats.

494
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Speaker 1: No, it's enough for me.

495
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Speaker 3: Connor stets On, Connor, I don't know where I get that.

496
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right from what I saw this in your bowl.

497
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Speaker 1: Bone Nix was was probably my one of my least

498
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Speaker 1: favorites there. Yeah, you just didn't do anything for me.

499
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Speaker 6: Rough day for him, rough days.

500
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you were down the senior boat working for another company.

501
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Speaker 3: Tell us about it.

502
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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, thank you a couple of the company.

503
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, did you have a good time?

504
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Speaker 3: I did.

505
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Speaker 1: It was nice to see the sun for once. I

506
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Speaker 1: forgot what that looks like. You haven't seen that here

507
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Speaker 1: in a month.

508
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Speaker 5: Any good victuals down there?

509
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: What's that food?

510
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, great seafood, great seafood.

511
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Speaker 5: Really Alabama.

512
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Speaker 1: It's on the Gulf.

513
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Speaker 3: Oh okay, I'm so surprised about that.

514
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Speaker 6: To get the soft shell crab.

515
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Speaker 1: No, I had some flounder and shrimp.

516
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Speaker 5: It was.

517
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Speaker 1: It was so good.

518
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Speaker 8: Cape Cott I used to catch those, Okay, you know,

519
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Speaker 8: great drop reel.

520
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Speaker 6: Sit there on the albatross.

521
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Speaker 5: I went out of oh my god, the albatross.

522
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Speaker 6: Ready come on.

523
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Speaker 1: Parts of this, but my favorite part of this was

524
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Speaker 1: seeing guys like Roman Wilson, seeing them outside of their

525
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Speaker 1: offensive script. I think when you look at who he

526
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Speaker 1: had at quarterback, very limited in what he was able

527
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Speaker 1: to do. Obviously, they won a national championship, respecting that,

528
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Speaker 1: but seeing him be able to go out there and

529
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Speaker 1: compete with those dbs, especially on those deep balls, was

530
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Speaker 1: probably my favorite part because you don't get to see

531
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Speaker 1: that with him at Michigan.

532
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Speaker 5: He moved up a little as a result of the Senior.

533
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Speaker 3: Bowl, and I'd be curious to see those kinds of things,

534
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Speaker 3: like how much movement there is for the Senior or

535
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Speaker 3: like or like most of the good players aren't there.

536
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Speaker 5: And we took we took Sebastian Vollmore because of his.

537
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Speaker 1: Hey, Ramondre Stevenson is from the Senior Ball as well,

538
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Speaker 1: but I and guys like Spencer Round there are not

539
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Speaker 1: a lot of talent around him at South Carolina, for example,

540
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Speaker 1: but he had a solid week. Not saying that I

541
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Speaker 1: would pick him at three, obviously, but I think it

542
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Speaker 1: gives opportunities for guys like that who didn't have the

543
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Speaker 1: most talent around them or limited talent around them at

544
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Speaker 1: their school a better chance.

545
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Speaker 3: And don't misunderstand, I'm not suggesting that you don't have

546
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: good players at all in the SEEA Bowl. I'm saying,

547
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Speaker 3: how much does guys really have their draft status impacted

548
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Speaker 3: by a week of kind of structured practices, You know

549
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Speaker 3: what I mean, That's all I ask him. Roman Wilson's

550
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: a good player. And you know, if you look at

551
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Speaker 3: their games, their semi final win over Alabama, he made

552
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Speaker 3: the by far the biggest play of the game, that

553
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Speaker 3: catch that extended that game winning drive or game tying drive,

554
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Speaker 3: I should say, was the player of the game. You know,

555
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: he was a really productive player for them. I just

556
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Speaker 3: wonder if does he have to go, Like I understand,

557
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 3: like the smaller school guys that have some questions about

558
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,840
Speaker 3: their their their competition, Yeah they can. They can help themselves.

559
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Speaker 5: You know who you know who did well? Who? My guy?

560
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Speaker 1: He was my favorite.

561
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Speaker 3: I already made fun of Lad mcconky.

562
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Speaker 6: He I think this really Lad McConkie, I just can't

563
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Speaker 6: get over it.

564
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 3: It is so different.

565
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Speaker 1: He gave all the dbs there, especially in one on ones,

566
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Speaker 1: like a run for their money. And I don't know

567
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: what it is about. Yes, like he wasn't like he's welcome. Yeah,

568
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 1: Like he's not like huge, Like he's not like a

569
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: big wide receiver like a Tess Walker from you and see.

570
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: But I thought when he had his opportunities out there,

571
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Speaker 1: he made the most of it.

572
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 5: Get open, catch the ball. Two main things about being

573
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Speaker 5: a received.

574
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Speaker 3: Don't forget blocking. Oh we don't have to worry.

575
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Speaker 8: I mean you remember Fred bringing up Lab McConkie like

576
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Speaker 8: two years ago, Like he just kept saying Lab McConkie.

577
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Speaker 6: He just kept saying it. I now, finally here he comes.

578
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Speaker 6: He's great, he's gone for this county.

579
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Speaker 5: I do, guys said, I really identified.

580
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Speaker 3: How many rounds normally do well, how many rounds earlier

581
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Speaker 3: than he should? Will he be drafted? Oh I got

582
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:48,640
Speaker 3: under it too.

583
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, no, he'll be a third round pick.

584
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, should be a seventh.

585
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say two fifth.

586
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: He's giving like a hunter run fro vibes.

587
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, And that's not interest.

588
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 8: And you know when I was I was kind of

589
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 8: on guys like that last year a little bit. I

590
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 8: think you got Douglas for I'll take Roman Wilson for

591
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 8: that role.

592
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

593
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 5: No, every quarterback needs a banky Roman Wilson's, but.

594
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: As a slot guy, he's a binky.

595
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 6: Yeah.

596
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 3: If we want a Binky.

597
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 1: I'd rather just get Jacoby Myers back.

598
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 5: What cha, Kobe? Did you hear the interview yesterday?

599
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 3: That was tremendous?

600
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 5: One million dollars took was a million.

601
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 3: That was a really good. Usually that Super Bowl stuff

602
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: is just fluff. No, it was good, guys and stuff.

603
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 5: He was so good.

604
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 3: And by the way, Thomas Dimittruck was really good.

605
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was really good. I think he might have

606
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 5: had like ten cups of coffee before.

607
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 3: Oh. Yeah, you know what's funny? Yeah, you know how

608
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 3: I always relate all these things to the different features

609
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 3: that I've written. One hundred years ago, we did one,

610
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 3: you know, like we set up for the draft, and

611
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,479
Speaker 3: that's that's the guy. I remember, the same guy like

612
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 3: like some words a minute, like just all over the place.

613
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,679
Speaker 3: But when you get him down, like you focus in

614
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 3: his recall to some of that stuff yesterday was really

615
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: Did you catch that?

616
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 6: I didn't get I just saw some of the highlights.

617
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 3: I saw it like at night when they were playing

618
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: the replay. I happened to like be clicking around and

619
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 3: I just stumbled on it and I was like, oh,

620
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 3: that's Thomas Dimatrof, And I started listening. I was like Wow,

621
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 3: this is really good. He started talking about analytics and

622
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: his company that he's.

623
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Speaker 6: In all that.

624
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 5: But that was good. But he also I think had

625
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 5: a pretty good read on what happened with Belichick and

626
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 5: the Falcons, you know, because.

627
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: Obviously that must have been at the beginning.

628
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 5: He knows all those guys because they're still there, and.

629
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Speaker 3: I missed that.

630
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 5: It was absolutely, you know, they were they didn't want

631
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 5: Bill coming in and taking their jobs or taking their power,

632
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 5: you know, So I believe that was the case.

633
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 3: I believe that was the next too.

634
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was. It cracks me up.

635
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: Certainly, wasn't too big, like Mike Vrabel.

636
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Speaker 3: You hear that, Okay, so yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna

637
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 3: be I'm gonna be good on that. I'm sorry. I

638
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: just like, I don't doubt that Rabel said that, Like

639
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: he don't say that, but Rabel maybe felt, Yeah, like

640
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 3: he's relaying that to youself. Okay, do you really think

641
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 3: that someone didn't hire him because he's big?

642
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 5: That's stupid, that he's too intimidating.

643
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, maybe, but that's personality, right, because he does

644
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 3: have an intimidating personality. He's the smartest guy in the

645
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 3: room all the time.

646
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

647
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 6: And he's not afraid to bust your balls.

648
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 3: Yeah right, And he's not afraid to tell you that's

649
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 3: my point.

650
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 5: He'll tell you straight out.

651
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: And that may have rubbed people the wrong way, but

652
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's because he's so big. I mean,

653
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 3: who knows. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't know.

654
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 5: It's a large human being.

655
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 3: He's a big guy.

656
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's got those thirty six inchil arms.

657
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 3: You know, I feel like I'm the only one that

658
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 3: loves I love.

659
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,439
Speaker 6: Him what I love.

660
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Speaker 8: I just I was gonna say though, I think it's funny,

661
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 8: like like Felgrim Mass got both those guys right to

662
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Speaker 8: Metrov went on with and then Yeah, and it's funny

663
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Speaker 8: because like I'm looking at the picture and it's like,

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Speaker 8: you know, they have like.

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Speaker 6: The officials, but you know, what is it the flagship?

666
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Speaker 8: You know, they have the Patriots thing, and I mean,

667
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Speaker 8: I'm sure Dimitrov and Jacoby kind of are aware of it,

668
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Speaker 8: but like for the people that don't realize, like what

669
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Speaker 8: they're walking into felt like you're walking into like this

670
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Speaker 8: whole soap opera that they have going on that you're

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Speaker 8: now a part of, and that.

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Speaker 3: You have really good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: I don't like that stuff. That's not for me, Like

675
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Speaker 3: I don't need like the whole.

676
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Speaker 6: Right, and they're like a shake drink or.

677
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Speaker 3: Something selling and like he's making his way that stuff.

678
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Speaker 3: Fret's Fred's nailing it. That stuff was really interesting.

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Speaker 5: It was good. But I was a little disappointed Felger

680
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Speaker 5: because he was asking my he talked about the lateral

681
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Speaker 5: and and Felger said, do you think that's the reason

682
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Speaker 5: why they didn't resign you? Felger knows better, Like he

683
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Speaker 5: was the originator of the mac Jones five. The reason

684
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Speaker 5: why one of the reasons why the didn't resign him

685
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Speaker 5: because he spoke out right.

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Speaker 3: He also knew that that didn't have anything to do

687
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Speaker 3: with it, but he wanted to hear him say it.

688
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Speaker 3: But why didn't he say, like, you know, you should

689
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Speaker 3: have brought that.

690
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Speaker 5: You were vocal. Why do you think that had anything

691
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Speaker 5: to do with you? Not?

692
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Speaker 3: He should have brought that up.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, he asked some of them Mac at All generally

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Speaker 6: a little bit.

695
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Speaker 5: No, No, I don't think he did. He talked about

696
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Speaker 5: juju Smith Schuster though.

697
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw what he said about juju football to.

698
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Speaker 8: Him, Yeah, you're not wrong.

699
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's about right.

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Speaker 5: But I thought that was good. And you know, like

701
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Speaker 5: if you can get four more days of those types

702
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Speaker 5: of interviews, that's worth sending them out.

703
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Speaker 3: They'll probably go downhill. But so those are two.

704
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Speaker 5: Pretty good Mondays.

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Speaker 3: I mean in the middle in the middle of that,

706
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Speaker 3: I think they had Pete Shepherd on well, especially.

707
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Speaker 8: With Bill gone, like you feel like some of these

708
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Speaker 8: guys might be a little bit more you know, willing

709
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Speaker 8: to come on and yeat rather you know, it's not

710
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Speaker 8: you know, they's not going to be held against them

711
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Speaker 8: and the Patriots anymore.

712
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 6: It's you know, kind of post mortem.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, okay, So I thought that was pretty.

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Speaker 3: Cool demotroph telling that story about how when he first

715
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Speaker 3: came and they wanted him to present safeties, right, did

716
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Speaker 3: you see that?

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Speaker 5: I think I did.

718
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Speaker 3: So this is back like in the early you know,

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Speaker 3: the two thousand and three ISHU and he, like Bill

720
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Speaker 3: had them all, you know, all the guys had to

721
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Speaker 3: like have a different area that they needed to focus on.

722
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Speaker 3: And so he's like, you know, pro he was a

723
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Speaker 3: pro development guy, pro scout lawyer Malloy was one of

724
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Speaker 3: the first guys. He had a break down. He's like

725
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Speaker 3: you know, it's Lawyer Maloy, you know, so like I'm

726
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: hopefully positive. He's like Bill's like no, nope. And then

727
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Speaker 3: you know, Felger chimes in because Felger is really good

728
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Speaker 3: at slipping in things that he knows. They came directly

729
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Speaker 3: from Bill from when he used to cover the team.

730
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Speaker 3: He's like, can't run and you know like, oh yeah, yeah,

731
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Speaker 3: Like that's why they they turned away. They felt like

732
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Speaker 3: Lawyer had lost a step and that's why they sort

733
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Speaker 3: of turned from him. And then he wouldn't you know,

734
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Speaker 3: it comes back to the same old thing. It's a

735
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Speaker 3: tale old as time. Couldn't get Jacobe Myers because of

736
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Speaker 3: a million dollar difference. That was what it was all

737
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Speaker 3: about with Lawyer. Yeah, they felt like you couldn't run

738
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Speaker 3: as well anymore. But it would have been fine if

739
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Speaker 3: he took a little less, right, yeah right, you know,

740
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Speaker 3: it wasn't necessarily the player. It was the contract they

741
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Speaker 3: didn't like. But Demotrof was like, I'm getting like attacked

742
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Speaker 3: on all sides and then they asked him like did

743
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Speaker 3: you hit.

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Speaker 6: On any of those?

745
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Speaker 3: He goes, oh yeah, you know, like Eugene Wilson was

746
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Speaker 3: one of those guys. Is you know, it's Samuel. You know,

747
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Speaker 3: we had some good ones. He goes, oh, so all

748
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Speaker 3: the all the good ones were you. He goes, what

749
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Speaker 3: about Elis Hobbs. He goes, yeah, that was mine. That

750
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Speaker 3: was mine because he was okay, he was okay return right. Yeah,

751
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 3: but it was it was an interesting I thought. And

752
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Speaker 3: Fred's right, I mean he was like all jacked up

753
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Speaker 3: de meotropes.

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Speaker 8: He's an interesting dude anyway, really really good guy.

755
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Speaker 3: I had a great interview.

756
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Speaker 5: He's got a company. It's analytics, but it's not game

757
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Speaker 5: situational analytics. They focus on team building analytics. Yeah, so

758
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 5: like it's more who to pick based on analytics rather

759
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Speaker 5: than what to call in a game.

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Speaker 3: Really, it's not about fourth down decisions. It's more about personnel.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, like personality kind of tests and those kind of thing.

762
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Speaker 3: I thought it was more about like the best ways

763
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Speaker 3: to build your team in terms.

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Speaker 5: Of structure building. Yeah huh, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: But he also he was he was really good. Like Felger,

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Speaker 3: you know, he despises the analytics and they're talking about

767
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Speaker 3: the fourth downs with Detroit and stuff, and fella goes,

768
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Speaker 3: you know, when the nerds and he's like, well, just

769
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Speaker 3: so you know, you know, I have a bunch of

770
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Speaker 3: those guys, and they embrace it. They like being called

771
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Speaker 3: nerds because you know, I get the propeller on.

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Speaker 5: The hell ahead all right, eight five five pats five

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Speaker 5: hundred of the A Sticket Hotline, web radio at pages

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Speaker 5: dot com. Is the email address anything else before we

775
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Speaker 5: open it up to the listeners. You know, we got

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Speaker 5: obviously super Bowl this week. They had opening night last night.

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Speaker 5: I didn't hear any I didn't watch it, but I

778
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Speaker 5: didn't hear any big news coming out of that.

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Speaker 6: It's it's gotten smaller.

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Speaker 8: I'm like honestly, like I remember, like probably because it

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Speaker 8: was Patriots, but like you used to be that kind

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Speaker 8: of during the day and it just felt more accessible.

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Speaker 3: They changed it, like they changed it tonight a while

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Speaker 3: when we were still going they changed it tonight.

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Speaker 1: Do you think of it because of the kind of

786
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Speaker 1: head to head with the Grammys almost that it was

787
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Speaker 1: kind of small because I feel like the Grammys took

788
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Speaker 1: up most of the chunk of everything in the Taylor

789
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Speaker 1: Swift news about her album coming out, like it was

790
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Speaker 1: just a lot happened that was Sunday, but it was

791
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Speaker 1: all the way in La so I'm wondering if like

792
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Speaker 1: people like didn't want to go there straight to Vegas,

793
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Speaker 1: Like I just feel like there was a lot going on.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I just I woke up this morning and

796
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Speaker 8: all of a sudden, like, oh, Media Night was last night,

797
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Speaker 8: Like I completely forgotten.

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Speaker 5: Well I don't call it Media Knight now open Opening

799
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Speaker 5: opening night.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's I've always wondered this, like if it's

801
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Speaker 3: just if that's one of those events that truly is

802
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Speaker 3: only of interest to the two cities that are involved,

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Speaker 3: because I could not care less about that whole thing,

804
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Speaker 3: like any of that that went.

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Speaker 6: On, just all the silly questions last night.

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Speaker 3: And I always think like, well, when we were doing it,

807
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Speaker 3: the Patriots fans were eating it up, I would assume,

808
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Speaker 3: and you know, in all the different you know, the Rams, Eagles, Panthers,

809
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Speaker 3: whoever the case may be. But last night, like I

810
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Speaker 3: saw like one quick thing when they had Kittle and

811
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Speaker 3: Kelsey together on NFL Network and that was, you know,

812
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Speaker 3: kind of goofy funny. But is there any like for

813
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Speaker 3: that outside?

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Speaker 5: I really didn't hear much buzz.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that came out of it was the

816
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Speaker 1: news about the Eagles in Brazil. That was like the

817
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Speaker 1: biggest thing that came out of that.

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Speaker 5: That they're going to host the opening week Friday, that

819
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Speaker 5: was like the biggest They're not on our schedule, I know.

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Speaker 6: I checked.

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Speaker 3: I was like, wait, wait, you want to go huh.

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Speaker 5: Well, I not that I think it'd be good for

823
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Speaker 5: the team.

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Speaker 1: You know, but that was the biggest piece of news.

825
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Speaker 5: We probably have enough to be dealing with it rather

826
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Speaker 5: than getting ready for a game in Brazil Week one. Yeah,

827
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Speaker 5: I mean, it's a lot of.

828
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Speaker 3: It's interesting that that they're doing it in week one.

829
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Speaker 5: It is, that's a lot on a team, I mean, passports,

830
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Speaker 5: and it's it's more than just your average road game obviously,

831
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Speaker 5: you know. So it is it's a big burden.

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Speaker 6: And it's gonna be Friday night yep.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Thursday kickoff and then it's just nobody's kickoff game.

834
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Speaker 8: Maybe the kickoff games Thursday. Then they playing in Brazil.

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Speaker 3: On fat That's what I was thinking, But I didn't

836
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Speaker 3: even really considered you might be right.

837
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Speaker 5: No, I think I think it might be Thursday Friday,

838
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Speaker 5: raise the banner probably.

839
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, they're working, they're working towards seven nights

840
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Speaker 3: a week. They're going to ruin it.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be some kind of like permutation. They have

842
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Speaker 6: to figure out.

843
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 3: Thing that makes the NFL the greatest is how important

844
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Speaker 3: everything is.

845
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 5: But we're so worried about safety. Yep, we're gonna, you know,

846
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Speaker 5: have guys playing on five days rass, three days rass.

847
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: No, they're not gonna do that far but close, close.

848
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Speaker 8: But it's gonna be this weird thing where like like

849
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 8: there's weeks but it's just kind of Oh, I don't

850
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 8: want into each other and I don't want it. Okay,

851
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 8: last night's game was week twelve, but this is now

852
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Speaker 8: week thirteen as we play here on this Saturday game.

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Speaker 6: Something like that.

854
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Speaker 5: Well, the other thing that came out is not that

855
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Speaker 5: the Chiefs get to play at the Vegas facility, which

856
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 5: is the taj Mahal, but the forty nine ers are

857
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: at UNLV and I guess they don't like the field

858
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 5: field the soft Yeah, they say it's too soft.

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Speaker 6: A lot of rain down there.

860
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Speaker 8: I don't if you've been watching the news, La is

861
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Speaker 8: like mud slides.

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Speaker 5: It's not in La.

863
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Speaker 9: Oh.

864
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Speaker 8: I'm just saying Southwest all right now, it's getting it's

865
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Speaker 8: getting pegged.

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Speaker 6: With the storm.

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Speaker 5: Well they're getting it's like fifties and forties in terms

868
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Speaker 5: of degree, and there's rain and Vegas and you know.

869
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well they had a natural grass surface put in

870
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 3: over the top, and I think that's part of the problem.

871
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 5: Just too soft.

872
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too soft. But I like how they said, like,

873
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 3: you know what, you know what, We're going to be fine,

874
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 3: We're going to deal with it. But then why.

875
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Speaker 5: You what is there? I think it was a New

876
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 5: Orleans and we were practicing. I don't think. I don't

877
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 5: think it was Rice, but it might have been. And

878
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: we didn't like the field, and they switched us to

879
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Speaker 5: another facility.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not remember that.

881
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Speaker 3: I don't, but I think, yeah, I think it was

882
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: the two thousand and one Super Bowl.

883
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 8: There can't be a lot of options around Vegas, imagine,

884
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 8: I mean, UNLV, what else whatever.

885
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: No, I remember when I was in Miami when the

886
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 1: Super bowls in Miami put these two teams.

887
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 6: One of them practiced at Miami.

888
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 3: With the univer See in Nevada. Where is that?

889
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: It's far? It's like three hours.

890
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 6: Away, Nevada, Nevada.

891
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, well they're in Las Vegas.

892
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 6: Mike.

893
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: Again, they're not in California.

894
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, they're Vegas desert, no waters lows, you know, I was,

895
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I just lame anybody in La Like it's

896
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 8: crazy there right now. Like I was watching the news

897
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 8: last night, it's all I mean, all the canyons are

898
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 8: just like flooding and the La River is just feet

899
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 8: raging and it's crazy out there.

900
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: It's crazy they save y'all all that rain in a desert.

901
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 6: And then it's like it's just extreme. It's like they

902
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 6: have no rain and all of a sudden it's rain.

903
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 5: But all right, eight five five pasts five hundred, let's

904
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 5: get to the phone. We have people holding on here.

905
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 5: Zach is in California. What's up, Zach? Any mud slides

906
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:46,439
Speaker 5: where you are?

907
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 10: I mean, I would never complain about weather in California.

908
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 10: There were a bunch of people who live in Boston, Okay,

909
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 10: obviously with the with the Super Bowl coming up, with

910
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,560
Speaker 10: the Chiefs being in another one for no reason, I

911
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 10: was just hearing a lot of people say that they're

912
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 10: comparing this the Chiefs current dynasty end quotes to what

913
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 10: the Patriots had for so many years. And I know,

914
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 10: but besides spread, none of you really care if the

915
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 10: Chiefs passed the Patriots in terms of dynastic greatness. But

916
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 10: I was wondering, like, what if the Chiefs had gotten

917
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 10: Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes in like twenty ten, what

918
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 10: do you think that decade would have looked like? And

919
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 10: I'll take it off the.

920
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 5: Air, Okay, it's a good question. You know, like twenty ten,

921
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: you know, how different was the game then than now?

922
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 5: Or would they the two of those change the game?

923
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 5: You know, is Mahomes that good that he would have

924
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 5: accelerated what we're seeing right now in terms of you know,

925
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 5: the offensive lead. I'd like to bring it back to

926
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 5: two thousand, Like what if Reid in Mahomes were there

927
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 5: back then, when you know, you could still kind of

928
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: you know, rough up a receiver and that type of thing,

929
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: and they didn't have all the rules that protected the quarterback?

930
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 5: What would it have been back then? They still would

931
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: have been great, you know, but that would have been

932
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: cool to have you know, him head to head with

933
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: Brady back then.

934
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 8: I don't want no thanks, just I like just only

935
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 8: having to deal with Peyton Manning and kind of Philip

936
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 8: Rivers like, but I mean more AFC dominance, and I

937
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 8: mean we'll see with the Chiefs. I mean, they're gonna

938
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 8: write their own story. I think everybody's just always in

939
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 8: such a rush to stack and compare and and you know,

940
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 8: it's it's it's gonna be an interesting story for them,

941
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 8: you know, with what you know, Patrick Mahomes, what is

942
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 8: you know, what if he has a season like Brady

943
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 8: did where he you know, mid mid point of his career,

944
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 8: misses a year, And.

945
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 5: What I won't do is be one of those people

946
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 5: to say, oh, Mahomes wouldn't have been good in that era.

947
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 5: He would have been good in any era. You know.

948
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, now for sure, that's uh. But we'll see this

949
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 8: week how how they do it would.

950
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 5: Have been the slinging Sammy Baugh if he was playing

951
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 5: back in the forties or whatever, you know he was.

952
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 5: He's just a natural athlete. Armed talent is unparallel, you know,

953
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 5: I would say, Rogers to me, is the only guy

954
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 5: that had comparable arm talent, you know, just strictly armed

955
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 5: at that just you know.

956
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 6: Just such a such athletic guys that you know.

957
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:25,439
Speaker 5: From any ango any slid aren't necessarily runners, but yeah,

958
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 5: picked their spots and can get those critical first downs

959
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 5: with their feet when they have to and just an

960
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 5: unbelievable pocket awareness.

961
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 8: And when the game's on the line. I mean that's

962
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 8: you know, Brady's thing. I mean, Mahomes is deadly.

963
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:42,840
Speaker 3: Deadly in Kansas City in twenty ten, like everything change it,

964
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: Like you're just so you're just adding Mahomes and Reid. Yeah,

965
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 3: so were they similarly terrible? Like I think the year

966
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: before Reid got there, they were like two and fourteen, So, like,

967
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 3: was that just because they were poorly coached? I don't

968
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 3: think so.

969
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 5: I thought that they're often of line fell apart like

970
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 5: they were. They had this really good O line and

971
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 5: they lost a lot of guys. I don't know, I remember, yeah.

972
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that was at the offensive line.

973
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 5: No, because they were this running team. Remember they had.

974
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: Croyle playing quarterback eleven when.

975
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 5: Was Priest Holmes on the team?

976
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: Man, oh man, Priest Holmes. That was like early two thousands,

977
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 3: like oh three two also seven years earlier, okay, uh,

978
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: eight years earlier. If you're going by twenty ten to

979
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 3: twenty two, you had like, which is a whole different generation.

980
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 6: Maccastle nine year. I mean, you know that's kind of more.

981
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: That was the last time I think they were any

982
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: good was nine and then there was a like a

983
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 3: gap after that. I think they they fell off in ten.

984
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 3: I think eleven they might have had like Tyler Palko

985
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 3: playing quarterback in a Monday night game here against the Patriots.

986
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: And then like I did they Alex Smith?

987
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 6: Would you get there? Like eleven, twelve? Someone in there?

988
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 3: Alex Smith was like thirteen, I want to say, And

989
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 3: that's when they got better because he was a real quarterback.

990
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 5: They started to win games.

991
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and they got Kelsey.

992
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 3: And then they brought in Reid like that. That's another

993
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 3: that was another trade. Like people just think, oh, you

994
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 3: just you get the team and then you build it

995
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 3: around him, or you you make a trade for the

996
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 3: former number one overall pick. Who I know, if the

997
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: number one overall pick doesn't actually do anything with the

998
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 3: number the team that actually takes him, he's he's irrelevant

999
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: from that point on. Alex Smith was a really good player.

1000
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: Was he great? Was he mahomes No? No, But he

1001
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: was a really good player who had success with two

1002
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: different teams.

1003
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 5: Don't ask one of our PR people that.

1004
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 3: No. I know, it's like a very odd YEA reaction

1005
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 3: based on Alex Smith's reputation as around the league as

1006
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 3: one of the greatest guys. Ever. Yeah, it's a very

1007
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: odd Uh.

1008
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 6: I'm good with ever.

1009
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 5: Oh that is gross, like cottage cheese. Eric's in New Jersey.

1010
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 5: What's up, Eric?

1011
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 11: Hey, how are you guys doing. I know what you

1012
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 11: were talking about the wide receivers. I guess feel like,

1013
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 11: you know, kind of harp up my point last week.

1014
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 11: I just think there's only a few game breakers as

1015
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 11: far as you had the top of the draft. And

1016
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 11: I know, Paul you mentioned it earlier, where you know,

1017
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 11: if you you know, you trade back, you you may

1018
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 11: missed out on one.

1019
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 12: Of these guys.

1020
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 13: But I was gonna.

1021
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 11: Say, you know, with all those trade down talk, and

1022
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 11: I know, Paul, you're probably gonna hate this month, but

1023
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 11: what do you think about bringing Carson Wentz?

1024
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, you just want to win, You're right,

1025
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: I would hate that.

1026
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1027
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 11: No, I mean, I just think he's such a better

1028
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 11: upgrade than than Jakobe. I think you know what Jacobe is.

1029
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean what you with you?

1030
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think those are the same. Yeah.

1031
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I don't see much difference there,

1032
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 5: you know, And I think Jacoby Risette might make less mistakes.

1033
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 11: I just think if you were to draft this, like

1034
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 11: I said, if you were to do that second round

1035
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 11: or you know whatever, third round, you get that developmental guy.

1036
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 11: I think it gives you a chance to at least,

1037
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 11: you know, you know, get your wide receivers up the

1038
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 11: speeding and even then drafting a wide receiver.

1039
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 4: I mean, who there's a log jam.

1040
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 11: I mean, you're not. I don't think he's going to

1041
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 11: be able to move Parkers.

1042
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 5: I'd rather have Gardner Minshew than Carson Wentz.

1043
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: And I would absolutely and I think nothing of Gardner Minshew,

1044
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 3: but absolutely if they just need.

1045
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: A placeholder, I would love it to be like Kirk Cousins.

1046
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: But obviously, well that's expensive.

1047
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 15: Yeah he's And I just can I just squeeze one

1048
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 15: live question in there, Yes, I'll take it off the

1049
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 15: line again.

1050
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 11: The wide receiver position.

1051
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 10: You know, you have pop Juju Parker coming back, and

1052
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 10: then you know you can get pretty much get.

1053
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 11: Rid of Paquin. And we say, but if you were

1054
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 11: to bring a guy in, how do you how are

1055
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 11: they going to work with naps? You know, you guys

1056
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 11: are talking about bringing in a Berlin Wolfs and the

1057
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 11: block guy. You know, how are you going to work

1058
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 11: at you know, when you have Juju and Pop working

1059
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 11: mainly off the slot. And I'll take it off the

1060
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 11: line of thing.

1061
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 3: Okay, I think he's better than both of them.

1062
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: Any one of those guys is dispensing right now.

1063
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: I think he's better than both. Now he might not

1064
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: pan out this, you know, there's a risk in the draft,

1065
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 3: of course, but I mean think he's more talented than that.

1066
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 5: I think the aim should be to bring in a

1067
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 5: guy who's better than all of them.

1068
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 8: I mean, and that's why I like, I mean, Booty

1069
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 8: probably gonna be off the off the team, I would guess,

1070
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 8: But I mean, right now you're looking at it. You

1071
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 8: got Parker, Thornton, Smith, Schuster.

1072
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 6: And Douglas.

1073
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 8: I mean, if you like in most rosters, that's your

1074
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 8: you know, but you got to push one of these

1075
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 8: guys off, like exactly. I think, you know, uh, Douglas

1076
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 8: is the only one that is really has a role,

1077
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 8: and he's a slot guy. He is, like, you know,

1078
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 8: gonna come in on third down and play in the like.

1079
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 8: So I I don't know about Parker, like I just

1080
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 8: I've kind of like resigned myself that they're just gonna

1081
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 8: play Parker at the X this year, and he's gonna

1082
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 8: do what he does and I'll be hurt a few games.

1083
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 6: You have to get Juju out.

1084
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 8: You have to draft a guy that can play the

1085
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 8: Z and can move around and play off the line

1086
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 8: of scrimmage and do all the kind of Deebo Samuel

1087
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 8: stuff but play every down. That That's what like when

1088
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 8: I look at the draft, I that's what I would

1089
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 8: ideally want is a guy who's explosive, who can do

1090
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 8: a bunch of things, that can take handoffs that you know,

1091
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,479
Speaker 8: all that kind of stuff, and can be the every

1092
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 8: down kind of and they don't have that on the run.

1093
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 3: And that's another part. Like people always fixate on the

1094
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: cap space, That's another way cap space can be used,

1095
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 3: is you can get out from bad contracts because you

1096
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 3: have the cap space to do it. And if Mike

1097
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: is right, like I look at it, look doesn't mean

1098
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 3: I'm right. Roman Wilson might be the next big bust,

1099
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 3: who knows, but I don't really see a lot of

1100
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 3: comparison between him and to Mario Douglas skills wise, Like

1101
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 3: I would be more than happy to have both of

1102
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: those guys on my team and say goodbye to Juju

1103
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 3: in Parker. Now Juju in particular is going to cost

1104
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 3: you money to say goodbye to. But you have cap space, yep, and.

1105
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 6: You need young guys to step in and play, you know.

1106
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 3: Now the Chiefs, by the way, that Matt Castle year

1107
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 3: in ten, they went ten and six, and they went

1108
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 3: seven to nine and two and fourteen, and that I

1109
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 3: think is around the time that that Andy Reid came

1110
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: a little bit. Yeah, I think Reed came in thirteen

1111
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: and they went immediately from two and fourteen to eleven

1112
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 3: and five with Alex who it was, Todd Haley and

1113
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: then Romeo Cornell.

1114
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: Right, Aldred's in North Carolina.

1115
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 9: Hey, Aldred, Hey tomorrow, Hey fellows, how y'all doing all right?

1116
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 14: Held?

1117
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: Hey, Paul sir.

1118
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 9: I heard you earlier. I agree with you about the

1119
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 9: office side who they got, But I don't know why

1120
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 9: I got to echo.

1121
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 5: You're good on iran.

1122
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 3: It sounds sounds great on r N.

1123
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, but I got to echo on money.

1124
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 6: Sorry, it's hard to work through. I kind of just

1125
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 6: just talk and don't listen to yourself.

1126
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 9: But recording to the draft, I hope they do what

1127
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 9: d I think this lance guy get Marvin Harris Marvin

1128
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 9: Harrison on three. But please don't treat them getting no

1129
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 9: bow Nicks. I say, no, next thirty.

1130
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 5: No Bonnicks, Yeah, no Bick We're gonna next that.

1131
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's good for you. But but Paul, yes, why

1132
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 9: was you top of the draft? Yes, Parison, uh do day.

1133
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 9: David was about third, and then it was that guy

1134
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 9: from text, the other guy you know.

1135
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: But other than that, that's you know, that really strong,

1136
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,280
Speaker 3: really strong class. I agree, really strong.

1137
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, but you get Johnny Wilson in the third two

1138
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 9: six seven for Florida State and he and that's that's

1139
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 9: better than Parker and that's better than and you can

1140
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 9: use them all right, but I'll let you go.

1141
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 5: You have a good one, okay, Eldrigg in our wide receiver.

1142
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 5: It's a big Eldrick.

1143
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of good wide receivers.

1144
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 8: I feel I feel kind of insulted, like I just

1145
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 8: I did a whole thing and we should draft Marma Harrison.

1146
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 8: I didn't even get a shout out from Elt, Like

1147
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 8: he just wants to call and yell at me about

1148
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 8: when I'm wrong, but like when I come on his

1149
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 8: side of the street, he doesn't say, you know.

1150
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 6: And I don't get tapped up at all.

1151
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 5: Jackson's in Alabama. What's up Jackson?

1152
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 16: What some guys?

1153
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 17: Hey, Hey, I have a little bone pit with fred

1154
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 17: thought a ticket. Why why you why you feel like

1155
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 17: there's no good foods here in Alabama?

1156
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 3: No seafood.

1157
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 18: There's good seafood in Alabama, frad I know, but I don't.

1158
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 5: I don't, but I think Alabama. I don't think seafood.

1159
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 5: I'm sorry I didn't.

1160
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 17: I felt good.

1161
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, it was great, it was really it's

1162
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: good food Alabama.

1163
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 5: I'm sure there is, absolutely.

1164
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 18: I just feel like like sometimes you're not giving Alabamian

1165
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 18: to the critics.

1166
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 5: Oh listen Mike father in laws from Bruton, and he

1167
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 5: made ribs like you would die for die for sure.

1168
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 18: Yeah that's yeah, that's the that's the hot spot.

1169
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 19: Here, ribbed and barbecue.

1170
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 5: So absolutely.

1171
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 18: But I just wanted to comment on Jacoby Myers interview.

1172
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 18: I was just totally heartbroken with the whole thing. I

1173
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 18: just felt like that that's a situation where we have

1174
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 18: created this man and he wanted to stay here, and

1175
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 18: I just.

1176
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 19: Felt heartbroken for him in that situation.

1177
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 18: I just wish he was still a patriot, and uh,

1178
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 18: we could really.

1179
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 14: Use him right now.

1180
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 5: I feel heartbroken from me. I think he ended up

1181
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 5: in a better place, but we all here we wanted

1182
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 5: to keep him. His father was a regular listener and

1183
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 5: caller to the show. I mean it was like we

1184
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 5: wanted Jacobe Myers, you know.

1185
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 18: Yeah, yeah, I totally agree.

1186
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, thanks Jackson. Sorry I insulted all Alabamians. No,

1187
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 5: it's just seafood. I don't think of Alabama and seafood,

1188
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 5: you know.

1189
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 8: But but they're on the ocean. So as long as

1190
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 8: you're on the ocean, I'm not going to insult your seafood.

1191
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true, they're in the Gulf.

1192
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 8: I've also known too many people who have gotten sick

1193
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 8: of red lobster to ever eat like that red lobster.

1194
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 5: Listen, they're not a sponsor. They should. The fact that

1195
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 5: seafood and red lobster in the same sentences, it's terrible.

1196
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: They are not.

1197
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: I did not eat at a chain when I was

1198
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: in Alabama. Eat like local spots.

1199
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 8: The ads look good, though, the ads look like, oh

1200
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,919
Speaker 8: my god, look at shrimp the size of a dime.

1201
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 3: You know.

1202
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: Also, seafood is like my favorite food and then after

1203
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: that Italian so.

1204
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I like off food.

1205
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,360
Speaker 6: You know I do too, especially breakfast foods.

1206
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 5: Let's see Matt's in Des Moines? Is that right, Matt,

1207
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 5: Matt and des Moines? Okay, here it is? How you doing?

1208
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 19: Hey, first time?

1209
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 14: Call her a long time listener.

1210
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1211
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 14: You guys are great. So I got a couple of

1212
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 14: draft scenarios that I want to go through you guys. So,

1213
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 14: first scenario, the Bears are gonna draft Caleb Williams, which

1214
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 14: means that the Commanders are likely going to take Drake May,

1215
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 14: leading us holding the bag as far as in my opinion,

1216
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 14: I don't think much of Dants, so leaving us holding

1217
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 14: the bag, and so I would like to take Marvin

1218
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 14: Harrison junior. But I don't know as far as quarterbacks go,

1219
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 14: what you guys think we would do in that scenario.

1220
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think at that point you're probably going the

1221
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 5: free agent veteran route and maybe drafting a guy late

1222
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 5: in the draft, you know, just a project guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1223
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,879
Speaker 1: I have to think too, if the Bears do take

1224
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams at one that they're gonna have to do

1225
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: something with fields. So I would see how much Fields cost. Yeah,

1226
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: I mean you could Fields.

1227
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 5: I'm open to that.

1228
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I would dangle Marvin Harrison. I'd be

1229
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 8: fined it, you know, to take them. I mean, I'd

1230
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 8: really be fine to take Neighbors too. I mean, I think,

1231
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 8: you know, he's got a whole different kind of bag.

1232
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 6: That's exciting.

1233
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 5: But can you trade down and still get Neighbors potentially?

1234
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 3: I mean, is gonna go, but can't go too far?

1235
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 6: Eight eightish, I mean somewhere in there.

1236
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 3: I'm not convinced that the Bears are going to take

1237
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams at one.

1238
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 6: I'm not either.

1239
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 3: Why because I think they might decide to hang on

1240
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: to Fields.

1241
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just think that Cliffs Kingsbury thing is

1242
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: just fishy.

1243
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 5: That would be monumental because then you're guaranteed one of

1244
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:50,719
Speaker 5: the top two.

1245
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,439
Speaker 8: It just makes too much sense to me, Like, it's

1246
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 8: what I would do. I would take take Marvin Harrison,

1247
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 8: take one of the receivers, take a tackle, give them

1248
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 8: two big pieces, and if it doesn't work, you can

1249
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 8: from Caleb Williams falls a little bit, Yeah, just one.

1250
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 3: Well what is it like, what is a little bit

1251
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 3: out of the top three.

1252
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 5: I think he's going to go to Washington with still

1253
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,920
Speaker 5: within the top five, but he could be as much

1254
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 5: as four.

1255
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 6: Really, I think he's one or two.

1256
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 1: I think he's going to go to Washington.

1257
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 3: I think is absolutely yeah, because what Tom is talking

1258
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: about with Kingsbury just doesn't make any sense to me.

1259
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 3: But the Bear, even though he.

1260
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 6: Cried, which Felger hammers him for too.

1261
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. I'm telling you, that's why everybody doesn't like him.

1262
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:37,959
Speaker 6: It's just one wait, wait.

1263
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,479
Speaker 1: A minute, isn't Caleb from Washington from that area?

1264
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: Is from d C? Yes, the DC area. Yes, that

1265
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 3: does make sense, and supposedly put out another thing about Chicago.

1266
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 8: Believe I'm not going to believe a single one of

1267
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:52,919
Speaker 8: those until I see it come out of his mouth,

1268
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 8: because I just I think, like.

1269
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:56,919
Speaker 6: It's when you're start getting this draft misinformation.

1270
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 8: Stuff and everybody's like, well, you know, actually he doesn't

1271
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 8: want to play there, or actually aren't our board, he's

1272
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 8: not that high, you know, those kind of like misinformation things.

1273
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 16: What else Matt so second Stario is that the Bears

1274
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 16: are going to keep fields and so the number one

1275
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 16: pick is open for bidding.

1276
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 20: What would you guys give up to trade up.

1277
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 17: I mean because I mean there's I've read that.

1278
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 14: I mean we would have to give up like first,

1279
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 14: a second, and a third or whatever to move up.

1280
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 17: I'm like, not in addition to the third pick, And

1281
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 17: I'm like, that's that's just too much, so I'll take

1282
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 17: it off there.

1283
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 3: I don't think it would be that much. Now. The

1284
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 3: problem would be the teams that you're competing with to

1285
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 3: move to one could give more. Yes, because they have

1286
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 3: to go further, they would be willing to give more,

1287
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: and then they could force you to give more than

1288
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 3: you want.

1289
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 1: Right.

1290
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: But I don't know, Like I'm not an expert with

1291
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: the draft chart and all that stuff, but I think

1292
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 3: it would be and there'd be some competition.

1293
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,879
Speaker 5: It's gonna I can't wait. I mean, we haven't been

1294
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,399
Speaker 5: in really this position in a long time.

1295
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,839
Speaker 3: The first of the draft. It's like, you know it's

1296
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 3: going to start him, We're like here we go, wait

1297
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 3: for I wonder.

1298
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 5: How much will be done before we even I hope

1299
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 5: they hold it.

1300
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like it could be a situation like

1301
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 1: when Trevor Lawrence is coming out, where like you kind

1302
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: of you know before.

1303
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 5: I don't think it's going to.

1304
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: Be that you don't think I'm talking about trades. I

1305
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 3: wonder if these trades will be done before.

1306
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 5: Oh, that could happen with the draft.

1307
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 6: Just wait till it starts them.

1308
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, and if that happens, then things could come out.

1309
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah. If there's no trading and the Bears want to

1310
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: take Caleb Williams, you'll know that before the draft. Yeah.

1311
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 8: Well, I mean that's the biggest question is are the

1312
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 8: Bears going to keep fields or or go for him?

1313
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 8: That's you know, like you think there's any chance they

1314
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 8: commit to fields and say, look where we're going to

1315
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 8: stick with fields? You know, I mean, it feel like

1316
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 8: it will behoove them to not.

1317
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 3: And like, isn't it kind of a like just out

1318
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 3: of common sense? And I'm not telling you it has

1319
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,479
Speaker 3: to be this way, But if the Bears are gonna

1320
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,359
Speaker 3: take Caleb Williams, isn't in their best interest to move

1321
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: justin fields before the draft?

1322
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1323
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 3: You know, and getting to be a tell yah, you know,

1324
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 3: I just find it hard to believe that you're not

1325
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 3: gonna have any in a way like that.

1326
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 6: We're on the clock, all right, who wants field?

1327
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: What's the bigger risk paying fields? You know, the same

1328
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: situation that you know, obviously the Giants were in with

1329
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: with with paying Daniel Jones, paying Fields or starting all

1330
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: over again from scratch with Caleb Williams.

1331
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1332
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 3: Ah, that's where it's like, right, and they don't have

1333
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 3: to make the decision now on Fields. He's only going

1334
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,520
Speaker 3: into his fourth year, so.

1335
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 5: And they could franchise him if they kind of like him,

1336
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 5: you know.

1337
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 3: But you could put that off for another whole year.

1338
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,279
Speaker 5: I'm saying, like, if they kind of like him, then

1339
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 5: the next.

1340
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 3: Year too, if you want to pick up his fifty arround.

1341
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 8: He's the fiftie option guy too, right, so that that'll

1342
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 8: give you a little bit of a signal at least,

1343
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 8: I don't I stick with what I said earlier, I

1344
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,280
Speaker 8: would you invest did a first round pick and Fields

1345
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 8: a few years ago. It's been up and down, but

1346
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 8: you have so many other pieces, Like if you take

1347
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 8: Caleb Williams, you're just kind of starting over again. And

1348
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 8: sure you can get him some help with the next pick,

1349
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 8: but not the way you could put two different guys

1350
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 8: around field. So you know, that's and it's I feel

1351
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 8: the same way about the Patriots, where it's like we

1352
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 8: got to get a quarterback. We got to get a tackle,

1353
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 8: we got to get a received. You're not going to

1354
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 8: get all three at a high level starter position, so

1355
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,120
Speaker 8: you have to kind of bite the bullet on something

1356
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 8: maybe and you might have to say, you know, and

1357
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 8: even I was just looking back at like when they

1358
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 8: drafted Calvin Johnson and oh god, what was the name

1359
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 8: of the quarterback Joey No, it was the journeyman guy

1360
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 8: with the big head who was in Detroit for a

1361
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 8: long time.

1362
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 3: But that is I've ever heard one figure really tries

1363
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: to squeeze it the two thousand and.

1364
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 8: What year was this, This would be the two thousand

1365
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 8: and seven Detroit Lions.

1366
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 6: The big hold on John Kittner.

1367
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 5: That's it.

1368
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 6: Wow, really really really said the stuff nogging into the.

1369
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: Heuse I have never really noticed his nogging. I guess

1370
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 3: that's the that's the ever.

1371
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 6: As a big headed American, that's what I recognize.

1372
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,160
Speaker 8: You do have a big not as big as Andies,

1373
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 8: which I'm proud to say, but you know, that's that's

1374
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 8: like if you got to bite the bullet for a year,

1375
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 8: and like and I just the people that are just

1376
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 8: so well, you can't take a receiver who's gonna throw

1377
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 8: it to somebody will throw it to him like it's fine, like.

1378
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 5: Now you have your receiver.

1379
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: The amount of definitive opinions when it comes to the

1380
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 3: draft is really amazing. You can't take a quarterback there,

1381
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,600
Speaker 3: you can't. It's such a risk. Well for and then

1382
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 3: you go back and look and it's like no more

1383
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: of a risk than any other position. I agree with

1384
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 3: the fred theory that it hurts more if you know

1385
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 3: you're trying to make the quarterback and it doesn't work.

1386
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 3: Then if the tackle didn't work, you know, but it

1387
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 3: doesn't cost you any more financially. They're all slotted.

1388
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:54,920
Speaker 21: No.

1389
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 8: And I mean in two years later, how do you

1390
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 8: think they felt when you know they got Matthew Stafford

1391
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 8: and you know, and now are granted it didn't work

1392
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 8: out great, But like for everything that you're gonna tell

1393
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 8: me the Patriots can or can't do, there's an example

1394
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 8: of the opposite working out and for everybody. And look,

1395
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 8: there are no can'ts no. And it for us like

1396
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,600
Speaker 8: you got to build in the you gotta build in

1397
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,760
Speaker 8: the trenches. Sure, I you know, I get it. And

1398
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 8: they definitely, you know, they're so barren with tackles. They

1399
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 8: need to need to need to get one of those guys.

1400
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 8: I'd say more than more than anything given with this classes,

1401
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 8: but I just I there's something to be said for

1402
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 8: just taking something that you know is a key part

1403
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 8: of what teams need this year. And you've got a

1404
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 8: chance at three. You don't get the chance to be

1405
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 8: at three. You get to be at three. You get

1406
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 8: the top choice of all the wide receivers. And I'm

1407
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 8: sorry that it's not that like you know, definitive position

1408
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 8: that can remake, but it's a necessary one and you've

1409
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 8: got a chance right now to maybe get one of

1410
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 8: those guys, so that that that's the benefit rather than oh,

1411
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 8: such a burden that we have to throw over a pick,

1412
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 8: but we don't have a quarterback there, so we just

1413
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 8: we can't take a receiver.

1414
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,920
Speaker 3: We got to you know, in reality, like the perfect

1415
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 3: year for it, because there are you know, like a

1416
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:57,240
Speaker 3: lot of times you get that pick and there's no

1417
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 3: option to take a quarter back pick a year as

1418
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: an example that was just like two years ago, Like

1419
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 3: if this was that year and you had the third

1420
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: pick and you got stuck with that and you had

1421
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 3: no you had no opportunity to take a quarterback at least.

1422
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 3: Now there are three guys that everybody seems to be

1423
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,919
Speaker 3: in agreement, a worthy of conversation in the top five.

1424
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, Paul's foods here.

1425
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: Wait, Paul has to wait one more minute to eat

1426
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1427
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Speaker 7: As I think back over the past, few seasons, I

1448
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Speaker 7: wanted to thank my most trusted game day teammate, Tostitos.

1449
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Speaker 7: As I recall the last minute grocery runs in late

1450
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Speaker 7: night dishwashing, the salty defeats and spicy victories, I realize

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Speaker 6: What's Up Everybody?

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Speaker 7: Two thousand and three The Super Sequel Part two available

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Speaker 23: Damon Huard, We'll take the snap, go to one me

1460
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Speaker 23: And that is all she wrote for two thousand and

1461
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 23: threes regular season. Now it's out of the playoffs as

1462
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 23: the Patriots try to make it two Super Bowl Chammpionships

1463
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 23: in the last three years.

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Speaker 8: The Patriots would face the twelve and four Tennessee Titans

1465
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 8: in the Divisional round, led by Cohen VP Steve McNair.

1466
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Speaker 6: That is it.

1467
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 8: The Tennessee Titans have gone on the road behind.

1468
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 23: Eddy George and Cohen, VP, Steve McNair and that great

1469
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 23: run defense.

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Speaker 8: Coming off of wild card victory over the Ravens. The

1471
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Speaker 8: Titans were tough and experienced team, one that New England

1472
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 8: had beaten earlier in the year thirty eight to thirty,

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Speaker 8: the first win of their current twelve game on Beaton Street.

1474
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Speaker 5: And despite the fact that the Tennessee Titans Steve McNair.

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Speaker 17: Threw for almost four hundred yards.

1476
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 5: And Tennessee had almost four huned fifty yards of the game,

1477
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 5: New England wins up by the count of.

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Speaker 3: Thirty eight to thirty.

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Speaker 8: But like the two thousand and one Divisional round, weather

1480
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 8: would once again be a factor with arctic cold in

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Speaker 8: the forecast.

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Speaker 24: Dean Brant Lewis will I'll say the night before the games,

1483
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 24: you know, as we go and do our walk our

1484
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 24: walk through, you know some of these crazy behind defensive

1485
01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,280
Speaker 24: players that we have on the team, Mike Brabel, you

1486
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 24: know William again is Teddy Bosky, you know, all those

1487
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 24: guys outside of the shirts off, and they had a

1488
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 24: weather advisory for people to not be outside, and it

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Speaker 24: is we're doing a walk through and half of.

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Speaker 25: These clowns are outside of the shirts off, you know,

1491
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 25: and it's.

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Speaker 26: Just some of those things, the memories you kind of

1493
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 26: think about those days and that was a long time

1494
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 26: ago man, you know, and I'm very blessed to still

1495
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 26: have that great memory to think about those memorable moments,

1496
01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 26: you know, because that is what made this team, you know,

1497
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Speaker 26: just having that opportunity to be on the field with

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Speaker 26: those guys, just to do a walk through shirtless, and

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Speaker 26: everybody just like Bill, you know, this is what it is.

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Speaker 25: We're going to face this.

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01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 6: Matt Chatham, linebacker and special teamer.

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Speaker 4: The guy that I would say is responsible for that

1503
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Speaker 4: is actually, you know, just recently honored here, Mike Rabel

1504
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 4: so Crable is obviously known as the guy with that you,

1505
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 4: guy who loved to push the envelope, tough guy, smart guy,

1506
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 4: all those kinds of things. But you know, it's not

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Speaker 4: as if at that point I hadn't played in a

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Speaker 4: decent amount of cold games in my life. But this

1509
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Speaker 4: one was different than really any of us had experienced.

1510
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Speaker 4: And we had an en stadium walked through the night

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Speaker 4: before and Jillette and Bravees comes walking up out of

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Speaker 4: the locker room with the without sleeves on, you know,

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01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 4: just with like the light sleeveless sort of practice T

1514
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 4: shirt almost and it's a helmet's only practice. But you know,

1515
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Speaker 4: the rest of us are all bundled up in like

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01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:27,720
Speaker 4: three layers of thermal sweats and gloves and hats and

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Speaker 4: all that kind of stuff, and braves is just like sleeveless,

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Speaker 4: and that's roll we're gonna. He's gonna go through this

1519
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Speaker 4: sort of two hour thing. I'm like, oh man, But

1520
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Speaker 4: then it makes you kind of feel like a jerk

1521
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 4: for letting him go through that go through it alone.

1522
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 4: So his rationality was basically, I'm gonna it can't possibly

1523
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Speaker 4: be where I'm stunded. Then what I'm gonna feel like now?

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Speaker 6: Scott Poli, Patriots director of player Personnel.

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Speaker 15: It was the first time that it was too cold

1526
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Speaker 15: to breathe through my mouth, so I decided to try

1527
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,160
Speaker 15: to breathe through my nose. And I don't want to

1528
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 15: get overly grapped here, let's just say that everything was

1529
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 15: frozen and like hurt. The fact of my hate it

1530
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 15: was so cold when you breathed in. But that was again,

1531
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 15: that was a really good Tennessee Titans football team. I'm

1532
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 15: glad we had them at home. You know, our team

1533
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 15: was built for our home venue at the time.

1534
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 3: And that showed up in.

1535
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 27: That game, and then the next week against the Colts

1536
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 27: because that was part of the bold be Home and

1537
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 27: that was something that Bill knew, right. Bill was part

1538
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 27: of those Giants, and those Giants teams were built around,

1539
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 27: you know, built for their venue, just like the Colts

1540
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 27: were built for their van, you know. So that Tennessee game,

1541
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 27: I'll never forget how.

1542
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 23: Cold it was at the time is eight oh one

1543
01:05:46,840 --> 01:05:50,760
Speaker 23: and the temperature five degrees with a wind shiel of

1544
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 23: minus three.

1545
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 19: Christian Fourier, University of Colorado.

1546
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,280
Speaker 2: I am from the West Coast. I played in Colorado,

1547
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 2: but I am not used to the cold, and this

1548
01:05:58,280 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 2: was next level cold. I remember going to a ski

1549
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 2: shop down in Attleborough and I was looking for one

1550
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 2: of those old school one piece suits you see the

1551
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 2: BOBSLT team wear. I was trying to find something because

1552
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: there's not a chance in hell I'm gonna make it

1553
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 2: through this. I actually burnt my cleats. My cleats melted

1554
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 2: because I was putting them up next to those little

1555
01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 2: burners that they have on the sideline, and my cleats burnt.

1556
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 2: I had to change my cleats. In the end, it

1557
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 2: was really about just staying moving, and if you were

1558
01:06:31,760 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 2: actually playing, it was fine.

1559
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 6: Karen Grigian the Boston Herald.

1560
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 21: I mean they kept showing the thermometer on the field

1561
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 21: where it's like it was like twenty below zero, and

1562
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 21: it was literally it was. The heat was on, but

1563
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 21: it was still freezing in the press box, particularly few

1564
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 21: in the front row.

1565
01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 23: We were sitting there, and I wondered how many fans

1566
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 23: would stay away because of the low temperatures.

1567
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,760
Speaker 2: But as I look around, not many people did stay away.

1568
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 23: They're here, they're excited.

1569
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 6: Stevens Patriots fan and personality to go back to.

1570
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 5: The Super Bowl.

1571
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 28: The New England Patriots were likely to have to go

1572
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 28: through the co MVPs of the league. Let me repeat

1573
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 28: that there was no cupcake schedule. There was no softy,

1574
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 28: there was no cakewalk. The Pats would have to defeat

1575
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:18,960
Speaker 28: the co MVPs of the season. They would get they

1576
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,040
Speaker 28: would get their shot to do it at home, and

1577
01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 28: as it turns out, the tougher of the two games

1578
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 28: would be the divisional round game, a Saturday night affair

1579
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 28: against Steve McNair and the Titans.

1580
01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 13: McNair quarterback draw.

1581
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 23: He has Roman has the Fust plot inside the five,

1582
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 23: What's coming Eddie, George Fust down and more.

1583
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 3: Demps saved a huge game.

1584
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,080
Speaker 28: The conversation all week leading up to the game wasn't

1585
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 28: just how are they gonna stop Steve McNair, How are

1586
01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 28: how are the Patriots gonna handle this awesome offense? It

1587
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 28: was how can they play football in legitimate Arctic conditions?

1588
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 23: Well, kickoff that frozen clock bow.

1589
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 8: The conditions did little to slow down the Patriots offense

1590
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 8: out of the gate, with Brady hitting Bethel Johnson for

1591
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 8: a forty one yard touchdown strike to open the scoring

1592
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 8: spot to the.

1593
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 23: Fire side left, with Givens to the near side right.

1594
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 23: He comes in motion, goes in motion from right to left.

1595
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 23: Brady in the shotgun takes the snap on third and six.

1596
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 28: Time fires down in that on that round cut touch

1597
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 28: down touch down play trios cut, fill, chop sid.

1598
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 8: The Titans would respond on their next drive with McNair

1599
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 8: hitting big plays to Derek Mason and Drew Bennett. Then

1600
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 8: Chris Brown tied things up with a five yard run second.

1601
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 23: And goal at the Patriot five. We'll call it the

1602
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 23: gives to Brown to the right, tries to cut it

1603
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 23: back left and is brought down in Now he got

1604
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 23: it the end of the end zone touchdown.

1605
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 8: If the Pats offense would continue to hummer early on,

1606
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 8: moving the ball on a second consecutive drive, only to

1607
01:08:42,360 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 8: see their reliable kicker Adam Vinattieri miss a forty four

1608
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 8: yard field goal. As conditions continue to deteriorate, ball is on.

1609
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 23: The fire, hash Mark tangle will be to the right

1610
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 23: for Vinitari. I make it a forty four yard field

1611
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,920
Speaker 23: goal attempt where they set it up, the ball down,

1612
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 23: the kick is up, that is on the way and

1613
01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 23: it is nougat.

1614
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 29: Teddy Bruski Arizona just so hard to score. You know,

1615
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,640
Speaker 29: when you get in elements, whether it's the snow in

1616
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 29: Miami or the freezing The freezing day which is against

1617
01:09:10,360 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 29: Tennessee was you know, it's just it's going.

1618
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 6: To be ugly.

1619
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 29: It's going to be back and forth. And why we

1620
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:19,639
Speaker 29: won championships so often was just there were just three

1621
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 29: or four plays that we had players that made them

1622
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,839
Speaker 29: consistently all the time, and then it was a multiple

1623
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,479
Speaker 29: multitude of players that could do that.

1624
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 5: Deion Brandt Lewisville.

1625
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,719
Speaker 25: Unfortunately, during the course of the game, I got Santi

1626
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 25: Samuels ended up having the fouse bites.

1627
01:09:36,200 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 26: I mean, this was the craziest thing ever I've never

1628
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 26: seen a guy with purple nails and stuff.

1629
01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:43,880
Speaker 25: And it's toe nails, his fingernails.

1630
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 17: You know.

1631
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 25: Scientas from Miami, so you know, and I'm from Georgia.

1632
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 25: We're not used to that type weather. But we went

1633
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 25: out and took care of business. All the other things

1634
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 25: will kind of get taken care of after the game.

1635
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 30: When someone accidentally threw a the school play costumes, oh no,

1636
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 30: replacements were shipped FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

1637
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 30: everyone could focus on the perfect opening night FedEx where

1638
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 30: now it's next for residential delivery only.

1639
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 3: And now great moments in history.

1640
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 31: But you know, Connor McDermott's another guy that I've been

1641
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 31: thinking about. You know, if they they probably could just

1642
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 31: elevate him. But if they wanted to try to get

1643
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 31: him on the roster, then Calvin Anderson could be the

1644
01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 31: odd man out there too, And.

1645
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,759
Speaker 3: That would be my first reaction would be, like they

1646
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,479
Speaker 3: still have I think nine offensive linemen on the roster.

1647
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 5: Right, I could just see Tyro went to I R.

1648
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 5: I could and he's got his hands behind his head

1649
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 5: laying there and his wife's wife says, our fiance, what

1650
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 5: are you thinking about? Connor McDermott.

1651
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 23: I mean.

1652
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 31: You're like, you're totally not wrong.

1653
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 6: What about him? No, it's the meme.

1654
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,240
Speaker 1: It's like the couple in bed and the girls like

1655
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: it's probably thinking about other girls.

1656
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 5: And then it's actually.

1657
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:09,880
Speaker 31: Last night I was watching j List me Mac Jones

1658
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,880
Speaker 31: breakdown from last week and she fell asleep and she

1659
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 31: like wakes up and she's like, who are you talking to?

1660
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 3: And I was like, JT O. Sullivan, I don't worry

1661
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 3: about it.

1662
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 2: That's another great moment from.

1663
01:11:25,479 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: Hey Patriots fans. If you want to see Toyota's best offers,

1664
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: including those not seen on TV, go to buy a

1665
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: Toyota dot com. It's Toyota's official website for deals from

1666
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 1: the official vehicle of the New England Patriots, Toyota. Let's

1667
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: go places.

1668
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 5: All right, good Tamara working for your lunch.

1669
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,360
Speaker 6: That sounded really professional right there.

1670
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 3: Andrew in the UK, what are you trying to say?

1671
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 23: Mike?

1672
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:52,679
Speaker 5: Last night, during NFL's opening night coverage, Maurice Jones, Drew

1673
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 5: was introduced multiple times as a Super Bowl champion while

1674
01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 5: flashing his ring on air. You might wonder how a

1675
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 5: career Jaguar with a brief stint as a Raider won

1676
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 5: a Super Bowl. Turns out it was part of the

1677
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 5: Rams radio team a couple of seasons ago. This got

1678
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 5: me thinking, surely Fred and Paul need to be introduced

1679
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 5: as six times Super Bowl champions. Also given not many

1680
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 5: people in the world have such a resume, When are

1681
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 5: the Pro Football Hall of Fame candidacies for you two? Beginning?

1682
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,080
Speaker 5: Paul's already in a Hall.

1683
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 6: Of fame, that's true. You you baseball Hall of Fame. Yeah,

1684
01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:25,840
Speaker 6: not the whole athletic Hall of just.

1685
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 3: But we shouldn't sell Mike to social He and his

1686
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 3: uh it's right, fellow teammates at holy Cross. We're under

1687
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 3: twenty fifth the MAC title.

1688
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 5: Did they give you a memento?

1689
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 6: No, we got we got a cash bar, I guess.

1690
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,280
Speaker 3: Cash bar bar even we had an open bar.

1691
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 6: You can drink in the Heart Center now, so they

1692
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 6: got a knock all license there. So that was great.

1693
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 8: We got to walk out between the second and third period.

1694
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 8: You know, you did a little hi fans. Yeah, they

1695
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,120
Speaker 8: couldn't hear anything. They were saying, uh yeah, big big,

1696
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 8: big clap and uh it's funny tho because some of

1697
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 8: the guys, you know, let me, I'm pretty old now,

1698
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:01,719
Speaker 8: but some of the guys.

1699
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 6: Are still like, Oh, we're going to go out after

1700
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,200
Speaker 6: the game. I'm like, I'm not going out, Like I

1701
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,880
Speaker 6: gotta drive home. And then the hockey players all want

1702
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:08,759
Speaker 6: us to come to the hockey house. And with those days,

1703
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:10,400
Speaker 6: those days are gone for me. I'm not going to

1704
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 6: I'm not going to a college hockey house right now?

1705
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 5: Does it smell? Do they really smell? The college?

1706
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:20,880
Speaker 3: All the gear, there's nothing like you. Hockey equipment st.

1707
01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 9: The worst.

1708
01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,439
Speaker 5: Let's go back to the phones. We'll go to Tim

1709
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 5: and Boston. What's up, Tim?

1710
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 12: Hey?

1711
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 32: Speaking of hockey, Congrats Northeastern on reaching the Bean Pop

1712
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 32: Finals for the sixth gray year.

1713
01:13:35,320 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 5: How about that, you know, a.

1714
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 6: Little closer, a little too close?

1715
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was not happy last night.

1716
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 4: Is there at three?

1717
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1718
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 32: I think I want them, and if not, I want

1719
01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 32: to trade down. We can't fix this offense with one pick.

1720
01:13:49,160 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 32: You got to stack up top fifty picks so we

1721
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:53,479
Speaker 32: can rebuild the line, get some weapons. And if we

1722
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:55,680
Speaker 32: trade down, I'm not interested in getting one of these

1723
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 32: round two, round three quarterbacks. Give me Jacobe Brissette. You

1724
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 32: know it's not worth taking a flyer on these guys

1725
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:02,559
Speaker 32: that aren't going to work out.

1726
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 3: We'll take it out there things as okay, thanks, Yeah,

1727
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: So I'm in between there if you have to trade that.

1728
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,760
Speaker 3: If you can't get a quarterback at three, obviously you're

1729
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 3: gonna have to get someone to play this year. I

1730
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:17,799
Speaker 3: get it. And but that doesn't mean I'm not interested

1731
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,640
Speaker 3: in like a third round quarterback. I'm not interested necessarily

1732
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,640
Speaker 3: in JJ McCarthy, Bo Nicks, Michael Pennix, whatever. Maybe you

1733
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 3: could sell me on Pennix, but if you I think

1734
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:35,680
Speaker 3: it's just smart business to take a quarterback somewhere, you know.

1735
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about a flyer in the seventh round.

1736
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 3: I mean like in the middle there, third round, like

1737
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: Joe Milton. Yeah, it's a second I never know when

1738
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 3: a Dak Prescott's going to emerge.

1739
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, But it's like the the guys you mentioned, like

1740
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:51,200
Speaker 8: you know, mcarthy, Pennock, I'm with you on Panis, Like

1741
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 8: I could probably be talking in to him, but I

1742
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 8: feel like him and McCarthy and bo Nicks are like

1743
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 8: guys that it's probably not gonna work but maybe.

1744
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,920
Speaker 3: Right and what I don't want to do, and I

1745
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 3: I agree with the caller there, like I don't want

1746
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,120
Speaker 3: to take one of those guys and think that's my

1747
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 3: quarterbad this year. He's going to start for me this year. No,

1748
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 3: that to me is every bit as much of a

1749
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 3: project as Joe Milton or anybody else. Like if they

1750
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 3: were gonna if everybody thought they were going to be

1751
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: frontline starting caliber quarterbacks, we'd be talking about six or

1752
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,200
Speaker 3: seven in the top ten. Yeah, not three. Now, maybe

1753
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 3: these guys will jet up the board once you know,

1754
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,559
Speaker 3: the combine comes and the Pro days and everything, maybe

1755
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 3: people will start saying, hey, you know, we're selling these

1756
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 3: guys short, and that could happen. I mean, was it

1757
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 3: six the record six first round quarterbacks.

1758
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 6: I don't know.

1759
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,559
Speaker 3: It's happened a couple of times, obviously the famous one

1760
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 3: of eighty three with l Way Marino. But I'm not

1761
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: necessarily opposed to taking those guys. I just don't want

1762
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 3: to take a bow Nicks and say there's my quarterback

1763
01:15:57,400 --> 01:16:00,160
Speaker 3: of the future. Bow Nicks is taken with the thought

1764
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 3: of maybe we have something to develop there. He's been

1765
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 3: productive in college. I'm not I'm not opposed to.

1766
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 8: That, but he's in that higher ilk of guys that

1767
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 8: you couldn't wait till the fourth round to kind of

1768
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 8: take that, you'd have to take him, Like.

1769
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,960
Speaker 3: The whole idea of you trade up it back into

1770
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: the first round to get one of them, I'm not

1771
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,160
Speaker 3: I'm not looking to give up resources to get Michael

1772
01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 3: Pennix right at twenty five, right when I can just

1773
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:22,519
Speaker 3: take Jaaln Daniels at three.

1774
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:22,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1775
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 8: I agree with everything you just said, Paul and like

1776
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 8: and that's and that's why, just speaking in general terms,

1777
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:30,840
Speaker 8: I see a lot more paths to come away with

1778
01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,520
Speaker 8: a receiver and a tackle and some in some combination

1779
01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 8: over the that first two picks than it is to

1780
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 8: I mean, really thread the needle with Drake may that's

1781
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 8: kind of the only.

1782
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 5: One was the tall guy that they I think he died.

1783
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: This guy with the big head. How the tall guy Arkansas?

1784
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,320
Speaker 3: Oh our guy, yeah, Ryan Mallet Ryan?

1785
01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,759
Speaker 5: Because what did they take him in the fourth round?

1786
01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 5: Third third? Because I remember, like people said, wow, he's available,

1787
01:16:57,400 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 5: and they they took him.

1788
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 3: That's the kind of but I let that like that

1789
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 3: pick I have no problem with. I thought Garoppolo was

1790
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 3: a little too high for give given their their needs

1791
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 3: at the time. No, obviously they took a guy who

1792
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:16,679
Speaker 3: had some ability, you know, but yeah, Ryan Mallet, Rohan Daviy,

1793
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 3: you know, somewhere in there, some of them work out,

1794
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:22,519
Speaker 3: some of them don't. You don't pick that guy with

1795
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 3: the thought that my quarterback problems are solved. You don't

1796
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 3: pick Dak Prescott in the fourth round with the idea

1797
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 3: that he's going to replace Tony Romo. Yeah, but that's

1798
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 3: what happened with Dallas, you know.

1799
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,679
Speaker 8: And to some extent, I'd even kind of swoop Jayen

1800
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 8: Daniels into that kind of you know, like it's gonna

1801
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,400
Speaker 8: take some work. It's hard to even say, like we're

1802
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 8: gonna take him at three and he's our guy.

1803
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:43,360
Speaker 3: And I'm also not opposed to taking a guy at

1804
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:46,439
Speaker 3: three and not having him start week one. Now, if

1805
01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:50,639
Speaker 3: he shows that he's by far and away is ready, fine, great,

1806
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 3: but you gotta I can wait.

1807
01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 8: But they got to do that thing where they always

1808
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 8: kind of set a baseline and free agency of Look,

1809
01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 8: this guy isn't an ideal plus starter, but he could

1810
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 8: play if we have there any.

1811
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 5: Chance that this veteran that they have until the other

1812
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 5: guy's ready. As Mac Jones, No, I mean.

1813
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 6: I'd go back to what we said last week.

1814
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 3: Of can I get a one one year paid sabbatical

1815
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 3: if that happens, I don't know if I can do it.

1816
01:18:15,320 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, I can't know, but I think it was like

1817
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 8: we talked about a couple of shows ago of it's

1818
01:18:19,640 --> 01:18:21,680
Speaker 8: not so much like on the field and just like

1819
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 8: it's it's more just his presence, And you did the

1820
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 8: whole thing, Fred, it was your whole rant that that

1821
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 8: I totally agree with, because if it just came down

1822
01:18:28,479 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 8: to like play on the field and kind of like talent,

1823
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 8: it's like you drafted this kid, he's under contract. But

1824
01:18:34,960 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 8: I just think that in terms of trying to clear

1825
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 8: the palette from last year, that that that's kind of

1826
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 8: a personality you kind of have to move out.

1827
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. I'm not interested in either one, but

1828
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 3: if I had to do it, gun Head, I would

1829
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 3: do Zapi.

1830
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: I would do Zappi, especially because the locker room, the

1831
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,080
Speaker 1: state of the locker room especially, I don't know how

1832
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:54,519
Speaker 1: that's going to go over if he's the starter at

1833
01:18:54,520 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: the video right yere.

1834
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's and for the same reason I don't

1835
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 3: want Zappi either, because I think that is mac guys too. Right,

1836
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 3: So now you're relienating, you're risking alienating.

1837
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 5: Those guys, like you know, who's left are they're more

1838
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 5: MAC guys in the locker room than they're you know,

1839
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 5: like I think I think David Andrews, I'm not sure

1840
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:19,440
Speaker 5: where he fell, but you know, he's certainly a Bill guy.

1841
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 5: And whatever Bill said, you know, that's that was it.

1842
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 5: But you wonder how many people left on the offense

1843
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 5: were MAC guys versus not MAC guys.

1844
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,759
Speaker 8: Like Hunter Henry, you know, I mean, he's a free agent.

1845
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:32,120
Speaker 8: He was one of the Mac guys, right, So, like,

1846
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,599
Speaker 8: is his.

1847
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 6: Potential to maybe return here? Is that tied to somehow? Yeah,

1848
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 6: you're nay on Mac.

1849
01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1850
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 5: Was Elliott Wolf of Mack guy? I don't know, it

1851
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 5: seems like he's.

1852
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 8: I mean, I would say any front office person that

1853
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 8: Green Bay, well, if Joy practices briefly had a nice throw.

1854
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 5: Patty and what's up Patty, Hey little Patty.

1855
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 12: So I don't want to give any up the resources.

1856
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 12: It's going to take them as up a number one

1857
01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 12: in this draft at least, because I think we need

1858
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 12: those those second third room and I'm I'm on the

1859
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,880
Speaker 12: bandwagon of let's just take a quarterback I mean if

1860
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 12: it's regardless of who there, Daniels or Drake may I mean,

1861
01:20:20,439 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 12: you never know what Washington's gonna do. They might want it.

1862
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 12: They might look and say Daniels fits our system with

1863
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 12: Cliff Kingsbury better than Drake Maywell, you know who knows.

1864
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 5: You never know, it could happen. You're on board. Would

1865
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 5: take any one of the top three quarterbacks, that's your yeah.

1866
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 12: And I'm with Paul too, regardless of who's I would

1867
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 12: take to Kobe Rissette, and he's he's a great veteran backup.

1868
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 12: If you need him to start the first few games

1869
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,600
Speaker 12: of the season, you know he's there. He's proven he

1870
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 12: could play in the league. I mean, he probably don't

1871
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 12: want him starting more than a few games, but until

1872
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 12: the new guy gets ready. And what I don't want

1873
01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 12: to happen is to go in the veteran market and

1874
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,240
Speaker 12: sort of stagnate and be where we were in twenty

1875
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:09,559
Speaker 12: two winning like between you know, eight and ten games

1876
01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:12,040
Speaker 12: a year, and then you never know when you're gonna

1877
01:21:12,040 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 12: be able to get your hands on him.

1878
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 5: So Ibray busy today, Okay, all right, thanks Patty. It's

1879
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 5: like he's like, yeah, next next to the putting green

1880
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:23,920
Speaker 5: at one of the turn.

1881
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: Bringing you a veteran in. You know, the reason I

1882
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 3: keep saying Brissette is I he's a backup. I'm not

1883
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 3: really interested in like Cousins or Mayfield because of the money,

1884
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 3: and I think you could do better. I don't think

1885
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 3: you're gonna those guys are better than Brissett, right, Like

1886
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 3: Cousins could come in and everything works out. He could

1887
01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: win seven or eight games for you, but I don't

1888
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 3: think he's winning twelve or thirteen and make you a contender.

1889
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,559
Speaker 3: So does that I mean you can make an argument

1890
01:21:57,600 --> 01:21:58,760
Speaker 3: either way, like does that help?

1891
01:21:58,840 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 16: More?

1892
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:02,000
Speaker 3: Like you're a stablishing a culture with a veteran who

1893
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 3: clearly does everything the right way. I mean, everybody loves

1894
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins, Yeah, the person you know, So you can

1895
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 3: make an argument that that might help Gerd Mayo and

1896
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 3: a young staff and what I would presume they're going

1897
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 3: to be a younger roster, right, what are you laughing at?

1898
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking how fun it would be this year

1899
01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 5: if Baker Mayfield was a quarterback. And after every game

1900
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,679
Speaker 5: that Baker plays well, Paul has, you know, just rolling

1901
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:28,400
Speaker 5: his eyes and shaking his head.

1902
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 3: But I got to give him his props. I thought

1903
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:32,400
Speaker 3: he played well down the stretch. I don't think he

1904
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: had his greatest season as people think he did. I

1905
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 3: think they forget like some of the losses that they had.

1906
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 8: I mean in contrast to what I saw from him

1907
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 8: when he played here with the Browns, and I just

1908
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 8: thought he's done.

1909
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 6: Like this guy can't play anymore to what he is,

1910
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 6: which is fine that I mean, that's impressive.

1911
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:49,719
Speaker 3: Because you forgot what happened that day. Yeah, he's playing

1912
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 3: that game with a separated shoulder because they were playing

1913
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 3: the Patriots twenty one.

1914
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,880
Speaker 8: Now you're bringing up great points, Paul, I totally just

1915
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 8: everything you're saying, and like that's all the like the

1916
01:23:00,760 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 8: thoughts that go through my head of like is it

1917
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 8: really worth like just accepting that we are rebuilding team

1918
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 8: and not trying to like just go out of your

1919
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:10,200
Speaker 8: way to get it all right for twenty twenty four,

1920
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,240
Speaker 8: when which they expense the twenty twenty five, like you know,

1921
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,160
Speaker 8: like let's stack towards twenty twenty five.

1922
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 3: I think there's a notion out there too, like it's

1923
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,360
Speaker 3: really important that they do this for twenty twenty four.

1924
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 3: And I think there's better just as good an argument

1925
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 3: to be made as that would hurt you.

1926
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 8: Yeah, and you think, like if of any year, Mayo's

1927
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:29,720
Speaker 8: going to have a little bit of leeway. This year,

1928
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 8: I would imagine in this first season, there's not really

1929
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 8: as much pressure and if you kind of sell out

1930
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 8: to try to make it get to seven wins this year,

1931
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 8: you know. I mean that's you know, maybe being a

1932
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 8: little negative about it. But you know, I wonder how.

1933
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 5: Much, like you know, money, money is always a factor,

1934
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 5: but how they look at like the cadence of salaries.

1935
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:53,160
Speaker 5: So let's just say you get your first you know,

1936
01:23:54,439 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 5: big guy is a tackle, and that's who you use

1937
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 5: for your top pick. You know, the order of how

1938
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 5: these contracts come up. Is it better to have the tackles,

1939
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 5: uh contract come up before the quarterbacks and the wide

1940
01:24:08,479 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 5: receivers come up before the quarter you know what I mean?

1941
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 5: Do they look at the cadence of when these you know,

1942
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:17,680
Speaker 5: assuming you hit on these guys, when when the salaries,

1943
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 5: you know, the contracts come up.

1944
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 6: I mean it's another it's another team. Yeah, no, it's

1945
01:24:22,120 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 6: another layer to it.

1946
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 8: I mean obviously that that that fifth year option on

1947
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 8: a quarterback would would be ideal. But I mean, these

1948
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,200
Speaker 8: are all premium positions that are all going to get

1949
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 8: paid big money, and you know it's it's hard to come.

1950
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 3: And I know that this is different than the question

1951
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:38,120
Speaker 3: you're asking. I I think if you had a perfect world,

1952
01:24:38,160 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 3: like I'm going to hit on all three, I'm going

1953
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 3: to take in consecutive years a quarterback, wide receiver, and

1954
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,240
Speaker 3: tackle and they're all going to hit. Wouldn't you rather

1955
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 3: have the quarterback first because now you're maximizing the ability

1956
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 3: of the other guys, Like you don't necessarily have to

1957
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 3: wait for the tackle and the wide receiver to develop

1958
01:24:55,520 --> 01:24:58,760
Speaker 3: as much. But most guys, it's not not a lot

1959
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:01,240
Speaker 3: of CJ. Strouds out there. Yeah, you know, most guys

1960
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,759
Speaker 3: need a little time before they're the guy.

1961
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 8: And you know what it looks like, and you know

1962
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:06,960
Speaker 8: what you're trying to build around, rather than like if

1963
01:25:07,000 --> 01:25:08,639
Speaker 8: you know, like let's just say the Patriots came out

1964
01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 8: of this with a receiver and a tackle and it's

1965
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 8: Jacobe Brissett, Like you're still kind of got a placeholder there,

1966
01:25:13,680 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 8: and you don't know as you continue to build the

1967
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 8: team and going into the following season exactly what you're

1968
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 8: building for what kind of quarterback do we exactly have?

1969
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,479
Speaker 8: What are the pieces that we really need, you know,

1970
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 8: for this guy?

1971
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:26,519
Speaker 3: So yeah, I agree, there's a lot of this just

1972
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 3: gets back to what Mike said about a half hour ago,

1973
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:31,960
Speaker 3: like there's no cancer, Like there's no way that is

1974
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 3: wrong or right to do it.

1975
01:25:34,120 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 5: If they're all good, then that's the way, right. It

1976
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 5: doesn't matter.

1977
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 8: Well in the bottom line is you need talent. You

1978
01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:41,200
Speaker 8: need talented players who can play in this league and

1979
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 8: that in whatever position they play at.

1980
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 3: Like if they take Marvin Harrison at three and he

1981
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 3: turned out to be an All Pro, people are going

1982
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,280
Speaker 3: to be happy. Now. I don't know how good that's

1983
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:51,800
Speaker 3: going to make your team, but they'll at least be

1984
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 3: happy they had a high pick. They nailed it.

1985
01:25:54,680 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, Johnson, South Beach, what's up, john john Johnny, Johnny,

1986
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:03,479
Speaker 5: are you muted?

1987
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 3: Johnny South Beach, South Beach?

1988
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:11,880
Speaker 5: Okay? Yeah, enjoying the If I was in South Beach,

1989
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 5: I'd be distracted to Teddy, Teddy the Weather, Teddy and

1990
01:26:17,560 --> 01:26:21,639
Speaker 5: Foster UK says, am I missing something with the coaching hires?

1991
01:26:22,120 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 5: Apart from on defense, Are my beloved Patriots attempting to

1992
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:29,160
Speaker 5: hire any coach who has had a disappointing record in

1993
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,160
Speaker 5: the last few seasons. Why should I be excited coaching

1994
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 5: wise for the current season when we're hiring a special

1995
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:38,280
Speaker 5: teams coach whose special teams last year was awful, or

1996
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,080
Speaker 5: an offensive assistant coach whose teams were future and on

1997
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 5: offense the last time he was coaching. Please talk me

1998
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 5: off the ledge, guys. Well, there's extending circumstances to everything

1999
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 5: you well, yeah, such as well like for example, Alex

2000
01:26:56,120 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 5: van Pelt. You know, you can say, well, he lost

2001
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:01,680
Speaker 5: his job in Cleveland, but according to people on the

2002
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 5: ground there, everybody loved him and it was just a

2003
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 5: philosophical thing. And you know, he lost out to to

2004
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 5: basically above Stefanski. You know, people above Stefanski wanted to

2005
01:27:14,880 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 5: make a change.

2006
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know. I mean this.

2007
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 8: I think there's a bigger debate too about special teams, like,

2008
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:21,680
Speaker 8: you know, what, what do you do to fix your

2009
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 8: special teams these days? Like do you go out and

2010
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 8: sign a bunch of veterans special teamers or you know,

2011
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 8: I think probably the hope here, at least primarily with Springer,

2012
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 8: is that he can get the two rookie kickers on track,

2013
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,600
Speaker 8: and that if guys are making their field goals.

2014
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 6: And you're able to flip.

2015
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 8: You know, have consistent punting, which we didn't get last year.

2016
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 8: You know, consistency out of either of those spots that

2017
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 8: you know, that's the best place to start, rather than

2018
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 8: you know, doing what the Patriots have done, which was

2019
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,880
Speaker 8: go out and signed Chris Board last year, which you

2020
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 8: know didn't really make an impact. You brought back Cody Davis,

2021
01:27:50,240 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 8: didn't really you know, change anything. So I mean, special

2022
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 8: teams are becoming less and less a part of the league,

2023
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 8: and I think you kind of have to prioritize how

2024
01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 8: you want to attack that and also realizing that like

2025
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 8: it's still special teams, Like it's not you know, how

2026
01:28:02,680 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 8: do we fix the punt return team? Like, well, Marcus

2027
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 8: Jones is gonna come back, so maybe that'll help. Like,

2028
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 8: but I look, I hear what he's saying. I mean,

2029
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:12,240
Speaker 8: it's it's and this is unfortunately the reality of the

2030
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 8: situation the Patriots are in that they weren't going to

2031
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 8: bring in a bunch of really highly desired, sought after coaches.

2032
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 8: They mean, that's not where they are. They are long rebuild.

2033
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 8: They these guys are gonna have a chance to prove themselves.

2034
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:24,680
Speaker 8: But these guys might not be the guys. It might

2035
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,760
Speaker 8: be the guys after them that you know you bring

2036
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:28,680
Speaker 8: in to take a group the next place. It's just

2037
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:30,600
Speaker 8: right now, you've gotta get talent in there and you

2038
01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 8: need to.

2039
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 5: Rebuild a base Jeffrey and Canada. When it comes to

2040
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 5: drafting a quarterback, I hope the number one consideration is

2041
01:28:37,120 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 5: his actual talent, arm, footwork, composure, accuracy. I think for

2042
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 5: media and fans alike, we have to trust that experts on.

2043
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 3: Which one of those, all of them is the number

2044
01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:46,559
Speaker 3: one thing?

2045
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 5: All of those things talent, armed, footwork, composure, inaccuracy. There

2046
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,800
Speaker 5: are other things to consider that might separate two players

2047
01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 5: that are close. Which of the following are most important

2048
01:28:57,320 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 5: to you to separate two players who are close? And

2049
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 5: there's four things. The stats of the player, the success

2050
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 5: of the quarterbacks team, uh, you know, did they have

2051
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 5: a good record or not? The competition he faced, and

2052
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 5: the level of talent of his teammates. Did did he

2053
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 5: do that with a bunch of five star talent around him?

2054
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:24,040
Speaker 5: So stats, success of the team, the competition or the

2055
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 5: talent around him? Which is more important separate.

2056
01:29:26,720 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 6: In that group, I'd probably say stats.

2057
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:29,680
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, you can look at the other

2058
01:29:29,720 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 8: things within context, but if they can't put up numbers,

2059
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 8: then what are we even talking about? You know, always

2060
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 8: on a great team like well, I mean, but in

2061
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 8: the context of Western Kentucky, you know, but at least competition.

2062
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:45,280
Speaker 3: M But I kind of agree with Mike. I don't

2063
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 3: really think those four things are all.

2064
01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: I am stats when when they're not from Western Kentucky,

2065
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.

2066
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:57,640
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys are all like from the roof statistically,

2067
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 3: yeah right. I Mean, the only guy I ever saw

2068
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 3: that made the NFL was that guy that the Jets

2069
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 3: started this year, Tim Boyle is the only college quarterback

2070
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,480
Speaker 3: I ever saw that sucked in college.

2071
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 1: That's true.

2072
01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 8: Well, but and by that thing too, So you're you know,

2073
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 8: you're kind of intimating that you're searching for a highly

2074
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,519
Speaker 8: productive player in the SEC who wasn't really on a

2075
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 8: great team. You know, it didn't have a lot of

2076
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 8: talent around him. Jay Cutler, like, that's the guy that

2077
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 8: you're kind of looking at Vanderbilt.

2078
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:28,599
Speaker 6: That's a good one.

2079
01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: That's essentially what you're looking for because.

2080
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:32,599
Speaker 6: He's the best player on the crappiest SEC team.

2081
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 3: That's I would say competition though, does he you know,

2082
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,960
Speaker 3: does he play at a high level against good teams?

2083
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,599
Speaker 3: And how did he do with you know, like one

2084
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,439
Speaker 3: of the things I worry about with Daniels that the

2085
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:46,799
Speaker 3: guy Arthur I think his name is the Jaylen Daniels

2086
01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 3: guy against Florida State. I don't think he played great

2087
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 3: against Florida State, which was one of the best defenses

2088
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:57,000
Speaker 3: in football the last two years. So I think he's

2089
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,839
Speaker 3: really good. Is his stat Like his stats are eye popping?

2090
01:31:00,280 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. And I mean same thing with Caleb

2091
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Williams against Notre Dame, Like I don't know who that

2092
01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:09,160
Speaker 1: person was that played against Notre Dame. Notre Dame is

2093
01:31:09,160 --> 01:31:09,919
Speaker 1: like not even.

2094
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:13,400
Speaker 3: Like yeah, I mean that's a big check mark against

2095
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams. So I don't know why we don't do

2096
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 3: it for everybody else. I actually do know. Caleb Williams cried.

2097
01:31:21,920 --> 01:31:23,719
Speaker 5: He's stuck on that because other reasons.

2098
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:27,439
Speaker 3: You don't how many people talk about that his emotion,

2099
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 3: Like it's not like the actual physical crying, it's his

2100
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 3: emotional comportment. Oh oh yeah, he can't play because of that.

2101
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,639
Speaker 3: He showed a soft side himself. He's he's not tough.

2102
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 3: He's not mentally tough. He's not going to fight through it.

2103
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 3: That's the that's the line. That's what people think because

2104
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 3: he cried.

2105
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 5: Brandon is from Lexington, first time writer on Controller. I

2106
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,759
Speaker 5: wanted to hear your thoughts on the idea of double

2107
01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 5: dipping on wide receiver in this year's draft, even if

2108
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 5: we draft Marvin Harrison with the first round pick and ps.

2109
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,080
Speaker 5: Your emergency podcast on Friday was awesome. I was having

2110
01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 5: a rough time and it really turned my day.

2111
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:04,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't double dip in the draft, but I could

2112
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:06,479
Speaker 1: see getting one free agency.

2113
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 5: Ive it one there, and I mean, if let's just

2114
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:10,800
Speaker 5: say you take Marvin Harrison, I could see, like in

2115
01:32:10,840 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 5: the sixth round, taking another. But is that considered double dipping?

2116
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 3: But I get what your point is, and I like

2117
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:22,120
Speaker 3: Tamara's idea of getting a veteran and a rookie.

2118
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 8: I think you just got to be conscious of how

2119
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 8: many people you have, like I laid out, and how

2120
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 8: are you going to push the roster?

2121
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:29,679
Speaker 5: You just push him off the roster.

2122
01:32:29,880 --> 01:32:32,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what, but you know, if you two hands,

2123
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,000
Speaker 8: you know, but if you let's say resign Kendrick Bourne.

2124
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,120
Speaker 3: You know, like, would you rather do that or would

2125
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 3: you rather do that or sign a veteran free agent.

2126
01:32:40,960 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 8: I'd probably be more intrigued by a veteran free agent too,

2127
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,360
Speaker 8: but just because I kind of know what it is

2128
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 8: with Born. He's coming off an injury, but you know

2129
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 8: it's the same thing. It's like, are we just I mean,

2130
01:32:49,439 --> 01:32:52,240
Speaker 8: in a perfect world, I feel like you're building towards

2131
01:32:52,240 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 8: we have. Like I said, you get somebody who can

2132
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,040
Speaker 8: play with Pop Douglas in the slot, someone else on

2133
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:59,439
Speaker 8: the that side, and then, like I said, with I'm

2134
01:32:59,439 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 8: resigned to Arker just being the outside guy again this year,

2135
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 8: and I don't like that. I am, and if Harrison

2136
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:05,400
Speaker 8: were to come in, he could be that guy. But

2137
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,320
Speaker 8: I just think he's one where you kind of have

2138
01:33:08,320 --> 01:33:08,960
Speaker 8: to bite the bullet.

2139
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm willing to. I'm willing to push Juju off the rock.

2140
01:33:11,880 --> 01:33:12,080
Speaker 5: Right.

2141
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 8: You can't add for more receivers because they I mean,

2142
01:33:16,120 --> 01:33:17,840
Speaker 8: like in the perfect world, you push everybody up there,

2143
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,920
Speaker 8: but I think there's only one.

2144
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:22,719
Speaker 3: That we all have to know that it's not going

2145
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 3: to happen all at once. Like you can't just say, well,

2146
01:33:25,439 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 3: they need to double dip at that one, and you

2147
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 3: need to get tackles and hopefully the quarterback situation, Yeah,

2148
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 3: that would be unbelievable, but it's probably unrealistic to just

2149
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 3: fix it all at once now.

2150
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:36,960
Speaker 8: And that's why I think just you know, if you

2151
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 8: plug in one really good receiver with Parker and Douglas

2152
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 8: is kind of your top trio.

2153
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:41,680
Speaker 5: You know.

2154
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 6: I like that.

2155
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 8: I think you're starting to build with something and we'll

2156
01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:45,880
Speaker 8: you know, talk about the exposition.

2157
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:49,360
Speaker 5: Next Matt Morale get the rim shot, Ready Ford and Savannah.

2158
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 5: George just says, since Mayo was the coach, will he

2159
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:52,879
Speaker 5: be running the spread offense?

2160
01:33:55,640 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 8: That's funny, yeah, the Mayo jokes.

2161
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:02,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah.

2162
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:04,920
Speaker 3: So I think I asked this a couple of weeks ago,

2163
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,400
Speaker 3: but I think it's worth talking about again, the whole

2164
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 3: offensive line thing, Like, do you think there's a chance

2165
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 3: that they're going to get a chance to take a

2166
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 3: tackle in the top ten if they want to, Like

2167
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:21,760
Speaker 3: let's say it's like Penny Sewell and he hits right

2168
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 3: from the start with Sean Slater, you know, really good

2169
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 3: player right out of the shoot. Isn't there a chance

2170
01:34:27,680 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 3: your offensive line is not an issue? Next year.

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01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 8: Just with that, sure, I mean, cold Strange continues to

2172
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 8: develop David.

2173
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 3: But I think there's there's layers in there, you know,

2174
01:34:37,520 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 3: David Andrews, Jake Andrews, Mafi so Strange, You're probably gonna

2175
01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 3: get three guys that are decent out of those five.

2176
01:34:47,240 --> 01:34:49,520
Speaker 3: So that's four out of five spots that are okay.

2177
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 3: Now I can plug in somebody on right tackle if

2178
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:55,400
Speaker 3: I lose a win you and it probably won't be

2179
01:34:55,439 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 3: a disaster anymore. But that's a big gift because you

2180
01:34:58,040 --> 01:34:59,320
Speaker 3: got to really hit on that pick.

2181
01:34:59,479 --> 01:35:01,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I think to the the other thing

2182
01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:04,120
Speaker 8: that's interesting with it is just how left side right

2183
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 8: side are a little bit closer to each other than

2184
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:07,439
Speaker 8: used to be. It always was like you got to

2185
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 8: get the left tackle, but now it's you know, you

2186
01:35:09,960 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 8: need the right side too, So it's almost like, you know,

2187
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:14,639
Speaker 8: it's that kind of debate too, where you know, Joe

2188
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 8: Alt is probably you know, the one of the only

2189
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 8: that just like, at least scouting wise, seems ready.

2190
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 6: To step in and play.

2191
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 8: A lot of the other guys are maybe ken, but

2192
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:25,679
Speaker 8: are developmental, and you know they're kind of scratching.

2193
01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 3: That's why I said it's because just assuming a guy's

2194
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,520
Speaker 3: penny school was that's.

2195
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:32,479
Speaker 5: If you take panic, so you can save some money

2196
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:33,639
Speaker 5: by taking a right tackle.

2197
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 6: There you go, There you go.

2198
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:35,639
Speaker 5: He's a lefty.

2199
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:36,840
Speaker 6: That'll be annoying to watch.

2200
01:35:36,880 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 5: But Barton Poland, I like the McAdoo hiring man, clearly

2201
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:43,559
Speaker 5: has an eye for QB talent. Bench Eli when he

2202
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 5: was washed wanted. Mahomes had Alan and Lamar in their class.

2203
01:35:47,479 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 3: He's right this did you see this stuff on Twitter?

2204
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 3: Evidently everybody who's excelled at the NFL in the last

2205
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,960
Speaker 3: five years he was in on before, but no one

2206
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 3: would listen to him.

2207
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 5: The guy may not be a great play call or

2208
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,639
Speaker 5: a leader, but clearly knows something about the QB position. Plus,

2209
01:36:01,680 --> 01:36:03,960
Speaker 5: all those reports about him liking them are from the

2210
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 5: years that they were drafted, Not like Poleon saying that

2211
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 5: he had Brady as a first round talent. Uh, he

2212
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 5: wasn't the Giants head coach in twenty eighteen. That's why

2213
01:36:12,160 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 5: they didn't draft Alan or Lamar.

2214
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,360
Speaker 6: Okay, I think he's being serious like Mahomes.

2215
01:36:16,360 --> 01:36:18,920
Speaker 3: Oh No, that that's serious. He is being serious. That's

2216
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,640
Speaker 3: on Twitter right now. Yeah, I've been reading it this

2217
01:36:22,160 --> 01:36:26,519
Speaker 3: like during the show, like Allen was his favorite quarterback.

2218
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 3: He wanted to trade up for Maholmes. He had Jackson,

2219
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:33,679
Speaker 3: Alan Jackson, I think was one to not Alan Jackson

2220
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 3: in the country. No, I was going to say, Josh

2221
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:39,639
Speaker 3: Allen and Lamar, who does he like this year? Well,

2222
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 3: evidently we just have to wait up being the starter

2223
01:36:42,520 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 3: and we'll find out.

2224
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 5: Let's see Johnny in mad Town not to be that

2225
01:36:48,840 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 5: guy before this year's Super Bowl is even over. But

2226
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,800
Speaker 5: what about next year's draft and potential free agency class?

2227
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 5: Are there any quarterbacks worth waiting for so the Patriots

2228
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,280
Speaker 5: can address tackle and receiver in this year.

2229
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 6: I haven't even touched next year.

2230
01:37:02,760 --> 01:37:06,400
Speaker 3: I think that the chances of the quarterback class being

2231
01:37:06,439 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 3: stronger next year than this year are pretty small.

2232
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2233
01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 1: The only way I can think of his coach prime Son.

2234
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:12,599
Speaker 1: But he needs work?

2235
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 6: Oh should should here?

2236
01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: He needs work?

2237
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:21,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, Alex writes in Where's he from? Mount holly Ock.

2238
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 5: I was listening to Paul's show yesterday after work, and

2239
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,439
Speaker 5: what irked me the most out of the usual stuff

2240
01:37:28,439 --> 01:37:31,679
Speaker 5: that they have been spewing was the Jacoby Meyers contract talk.

2241
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 5: I can't believe it was a petty million dollars that

2242
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,559
Speaker 5: Bill couldn't come up with to keep him a Patriot.

2243
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:39,840
Speaker 5: Whether Jacoby wanted to stay or not was up to

2244
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 5: him if the offers matched, But really one million couldn't

2245
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 5: get done. They instead give that same contract to a

2246
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 5: guy way past his prime. And like Paul says, what

2247
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 5: is the difference if a guy makes twelve yards after

2248
01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,719
Speaker 5: the catch and runs or catches a past twelve yards?

2249
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 5: I mean, we can really play the hits if we want.

2250
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,519
Speaker 5: I know it's in the past, and I was mad

2251
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:01,600
Speaker 5: when it all happened last year, but hearing all of

2252
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 5: that yesterday really echoes how much Bill Bill's hand created

2253
01:38:05,720 --> 01:38:08,800
Speaker 5: the dysfunction in the locker room for a while. I'm

2254
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,439
Speaker 5: happy to see Jacobe land elsewhere and that he blossomed

2255
01:38:11,439 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 5: into a great receiver. More importantly, I hope Robin Glazier,

2256
01:38:15,320 --> 01:38:18,360
Speaker 5: Gerrod Mayo, Elliott Wolf or whatever collaborative group is a

2257
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 5: better negotiator than Bill regarding player contracts. Also, can we

2258
01:38:23,400 --> 01:38:26,320
Speaker 5: petition the Pillsbury dough Boy to be our second mascot?

2259
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,200
Speaker 5: I vote yes, and I think this is exactly what

2260
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:31,680
Speaker 5: the team needs to rebrand itself off a four to

2261
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 5: thirteen season. Why Pillsbury dough boy. Oh that's Alex.

2262
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:35,960
Speaker 6: I think it's an AVP thing.

2263
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, he put the doll in his locker or something

2264
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:39,680
Speaker 5: like that.

2265
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,880
Speaker 6: I tell you know, full disclosure.

2266
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 8: I was a big Pillsbury dough boy guy as a kid,

2267
01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 8: Like I loved it in nursery school so much that

2268
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 8: my mom tried to talk the nursery school and to

2269
01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 8: let me.

2270
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 6: Take this little dough boy that they had there. So

2271
01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:55,080
Speaker 6: I'm all in favor of that plan. Sorry, what is happening?

2272
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,559
Speaker 5: I think if you're a kid, everybody wanted to poke

2273
01:38:57,640 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 5: him in the stomach.

2274
01:38:58,479 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 6: Right, Hell yeah, any of his cookies?

2275
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:07,479
Speaker 5: No, remember I know who that is, the Pillsbury.

2276
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,800
Speaker 1: Do you know?

2277
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:08,719
Speaker 6: I said the little laugh?

2278
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,400
Speaker 3: Okay, I hate you.

2279
01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:15,719
Speaker 5: I think it was great marketing, Like for some reason

2280
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 5: it made you hungry right now? You know? Yeah, the

2281
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:26,320
Speaker 5: Pillsbury doughboy still going No, I like, all right, does

2282
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,760
Speaker 5: anyone know who Xavier look Jet is?

2283
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,040
Speaker 1: If we don't get Carolina.

2284
01:39:30,720 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 5: Harrison, would you be interested in him in the second

2285
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,519
Speaker 5: round or even grabbing him even if we get Marvin

2286
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:37,320
Speaker 5: Harrison Junior.

2287
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 6: I've looked at him a little bit.

2288
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:43,240
Speaker 5: I wasn't p s sending some D nine love to

2289
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 5: to marry You're beautiful, thank you. That's Raymond.

2290
01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 3: Oh D nine trying to slip into the sliding right in.

2291
01:39:57,000 --> 01:40:04,360
Speaker 3: Nice job. Yeah, I don't want to take wide receiver

2292
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:05,759
Speaker 3: in the first and second round.

2293
01:40:05,880 --> 01:40:08,599
Speaker 6: No, I know that's that's silly, that's silly talk.

2294
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:10,559
Speaker 3: But yeah, that gets pretty good.

2295
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah he looks good.

2296
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 5: Let's go back to John at South Beach. Who's calling back?

2297
01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 5: What's up? John?

2298
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:17,479
Speaker 3: It's Johnny south Beach.

2299
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 17: Puty, everyone, all right, So I am calling in to

2300
01:40:25,760 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 17: chat more about the Jacoby Meyers thing. I don't know

2301
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:30,640
Speaker 17: if you folks already covered it on the show. My apologies,

2302
01:40:30,720 --> 01:40:33,680
Speaker 17: I have a little been able to listen yesterday. We

2303
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 17: did from like an emotional sort of like bad fan perspective.

2304
01:40:39,240 --> 01:40:43,439
Speaker 17: I think that interview was really fascinating to me because

2305
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 17: I think in like a fly way and in a

2306
01:40:47,160 --> 01:40:49,679
Speaker 17: direct way, a lot of questions that we had were

2307
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 17: sort of like answered if everything that was said was true.

2308
01:40:53,360 --> 01:40:55,719
Speaker 17: So I was just interested to hear if you guys

2309
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,240
Speaker 17: had anything else to add or well, if what he

2310
01:40:58,320 --> 01:40:59,920
Speaker 17: said was surprising or no.

2311
01:41:00,080 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 5: But before we we before we give our take, what

2312
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 5: answers do you believe were. What questions do you believe

2313
01:41:06,160 --> 01:41:07,439
Speaker 5: were answered in the interview?

2314
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:09,519
Speaker 14: Uh?

2315
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,760
Speaker 17: Truly, like in terms of a number, what it would

2316
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 17: have taken to have him come back again. You know,

2317
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:17,320
Speaker 17: It's just something that was said, but it kind of

2318
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:22,240
Speaker 17: sounds about right and too that like Jacoby actually did

2319
01:41:22,280 --> 01:41:24,600
Speaker 17: want to say. I think there was a part of

2320
01:41:24,680 --> 01:41:27,720
Speaker 17: him obviously that probably I suspect was interested in like

2321
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:30,080
Speaker 17: what a new start at a new organization would look like.

2322
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 17: But I think there's another part of him that he

2323
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:35,280
Speaker 17: was like, you know, I still talk to Troy like that,

2324
01:41:35,320 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 17: those were my guys.

2325
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:39,800
Speaker 5: Well, now, if you listen to his words, he didn't

2326
01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 5: actually say, oh yeah, I would have stayed if they

2327
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,400
Speaker 5: gave me the same, He said, I would have thought

2328
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:43,960
Speaker 5: about it.

2329
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:46,360
Speaker 17: They would have changed the conversation.

2330
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:48,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, he said it would have changed the conversation. But

2331
01:41:48,560 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 5: I still think there were other factors besides money for him,

2332
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,479
Speaker 5: you know. And and if you listen to him, like,

2333
01:41:56,439 --> 01:41:58,800
Speaker 5: you know, he came right out and said, like I

2334
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 5: couldn't be me. It was you know, every day you're

2335
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:07,400
Speaker 5: just trying to survive, you know, And he you did

2336
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:10,559
Speaker 5: sense the relief that he had, you know, not that

2337
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,679
Speaker 5: he's not trying as hard when he's with the Raiders,

2338
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,639
Speaker 5: but he says like, I'm doing it for me now,

2339
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,040
Speaker 5: you know, and I'm able to be myself. And so

2340
01:42:19,560 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 5: I think there were other factors besides the million dollars

2341
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:25,160
Speaker 5: that even if they had matched it, it still would

2342
01:42:25,200 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 5: have been a decision. It wouldn't have been a slam dunk.

2343
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:29,679
Speaker 5: That's what I got. Really.

2344
01:42:29,760 --> 01:42:32,880
Speaker 17: I think he said that if they freed me was

2345
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 17: one of his.

2346
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:37,920
Speaker 5: Yeah right, and that wasn't gonna happen, you know, like

2347
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 5: he's not Rob Gronkowski where he can kind of be

2348
01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 5: the you know, whatever he is and get away with

2349
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,680
Speaker 5: it or Julian Edelman. Bill wasn't going to allow him

2350
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 5: to do that. So I think I don't think he

2351
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:51,919
Speaker 5: was happy, is what it was. And you know, remember

2352
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 5: how he came in defensive mac, remember how he spoke

2353
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:58,880
Speaker 5: out about the offense in the summer. You know, I

2354
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:04,640
Speaker 5: don't think he was happy, and it wasn't just about money. Yeah,

2355
01:43:05,360 --> 01:43:08,719
Speaker 5: all right, John, thanks for the call. Let's see Todd

2356
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 5: North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

2357
01:43:11,960 --> 01:43:15,479
Speaker 20: Okay, So I don't know enough about the football scouting

2358
01:43:15,520 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 20: and all this other stuff. Bad Evan's not there, but

2359
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,280
Speaker 20: do we have a GM and what exactly is the

2360
01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:22,639
Speaker 20: GM's role in the team building, Like do we need

2361
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,719
Speaker 20: to get one before these guys start doing the scouting

2362
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,720
Speaker 20: so that he can kind of paint a picture of

2363
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,639
Speaker 20: what the team should be or how does that all work.

2364
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:32,799
Speaker 5: It's a good question. Thanks guys, It's a good question,

2365
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,559
Speaker 5: and you know, we're seeing more and more at least

2366
01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:38,240
Speaker 5: Elliott Wolfe kind of taking the lead on, you know,

2367
01:43:38,439 --> 01:43:44,280
Speaker 5: finding coaches. It seems to me though that like, did

2368
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,600
Speaker 5: is there a report that Alex van Pelt was going

2369
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:47,840
Speaker 5: to have a say in the.

2370
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:49,479
Speaker 6: Draft out there? Yes?

2371
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,840
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, So I think when it comes to the draft,

2372
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,280
Speaker 5: I think at least they're going to try to make

2373
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:57,960
Speaker 5: it as collaborative as possible and then maybe wolf has

2374
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,000
Speaker 5: final say or Girod has final say. One of those

2375
01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:03,479
Speaker 5: two people will have final say. But I think they

2376
01:44:03,479 --> 01:44:09,800
Speaker 5: are gonna seriously listen to DeMarcus Covington and whoever this

2377
01:44:10,680 --> 01:44:14,400
Speaker 5: offensive line coach is gonna be, and obviously a VP.

2378
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna take what they have to say seriously. Now,

2379
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 5: the problem is have they been doing the work that's

2380
01:44:21,439 --> 01:44:23,439
Speaker 5: already been done, Like are they up on it or

2381
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,000
Speaker 5: is this like a crash course for these guys in

2382
01:44:26,120 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 5: terms of like who's you know, what the board should be,

2383
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:30,920
Speaker 5: I don't.

2384
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:33,479
Speaker 8: Know, fright, and who fits what they're even gonna be doing,

2385
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 8: which they might still be figuring out for themselves as well.

2386
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 6: It's I mean, there's a lot.

2387
01:44:38,479 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 5: I mean, it's almost like they have to have like

2388
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,960
Speaker 5: three plans. If we can get Caleb Williams, here's our

2389
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,200
Speaker 5: plan for the draft. If we can get Drake may

2390
01:44:46,520 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 5: here's our plan for the You know, they have to

2391
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:50,400
Speaker 5: have all the different scenarios.

2392
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,800
Speaker 8: It's kind of interesting because you have to not be aggressiveness,

2393
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,320
Speaker 8: but you're gonna get answers right away in the draft,

2394
01:44:56,360 --> 01:44:58,800
Speaker 8: whereas when you're fourteen fifteen you have like a moment

2395
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 8: to breathe and kind of see how it's playing out.

2396
01:45:01,240 --> 01:45:04,160
Speaker 5: But they'll be a business standpoint. If you do get

2397
01:45:04,200 --> 01:45:07,639
Speaker 5: Caleb Williams, I think Kleenex is an obvious new sponsor,

2398
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:08,519
Speaker 5: right right.

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01:45:08,439 --> 01:45:11,360
Speaker 3: Paul, Well, that's why you need different personnel based on

2400
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:15,240
Speaker 3: the quarterback, because even though they're all very similar in styles,

2401
01:45:15,720 --> 01:45:17,920
Speaker 3: one of them cries. So you need to get guys

2402
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:19,640
Speaker 3: that are going to take that out of consideration. They

2403
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 3: can't say like, why didn't you throw me the ball?

2404
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:21,679
Speaker 16: Right?

2405
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:23,599
Speaker 3: You can't get a Diva wide receiver if you get

2406
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 3: Caleb Williams because you might ask them, right, what are

2407
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,360
Speaker 3: you doing? I was wide open? And that you're done.

2408
01:45:28,200 --> 01:45:29,080
Speaker 6: Like opposing teams might.

2409
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 3: You're done.

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01:45:29,560 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 8: Old Yeller up on the video board and it's just

2411
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,080
Speaker 8: you know, it's it's cascading down his face where we

2412
01:45:34,120 --> 01:45:35,960
Speaker 8: can't even play because it's just so sad.

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Speaker 5: Good Tamarrow, she's crushing it, good, crushing it, jacking in abba. Oh,

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Speaker 5: I got away for Paul to read this one? Gosh

2421
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,439
Speaker 5: getting another two leaders? Did he drink that whole bottom?

2422
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 6: No?

2423
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:06,040
Speaker 5: No?

2424
01:46:06,200 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 6: Almost almost?

2425
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 5: Oh, put it back. I'm done with you, Jacket and Arbor.

2426
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield had a breakout season last year. He demonstrated

2427
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 5: that he's a championship level quarterback. He's much better than

2428
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:23,040
Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins. The Patriots should sign Mayfield as a transitional quarterback,

2429
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 5: then draft the quarterback or the future in the upcoming draft.

2430
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:29,240
Speaker 5: Mayfield will buy the Patriot's time while the draft d

2431
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:32,439
Speaker 5: takes a few years to develop. Here's what I have

2432
01:46:32,479 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 5: to say.

2433
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 3: That would be true. But here's what I But you're

2434
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:36,160
Speaker 3: willing to pay forty million?

2435
01:46:36,240 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 5: No, but here's what I have to say to that.

2436
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,440
Speaker 5: If he's better than Kirk Cousins, you've got your quarterback.

2437
01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,880
Speaker 3: In my opinion, Yeah, okay, So are you going to

2438
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 3: give him forty times five?

2439
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 5: Uh? How much of it is guaranteed? Half?

2440
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:53,559
Speaker 6: Half?

2441
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:54,160
Speaker 5: Maybe?

2442
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 3: Okay. I'm not interested if I believe he's because I

2443
01:46:57,080 --> 01:46:59,320
Speaker 3: don't believe he's a championship caliber quarterback.

2444
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,840
Speaker 5: But I'm saying if the if what he's saying is right,

2445
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:05,000
Speaker 5: and he is better than Kirk Cousins, then he deserves them.

2446
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in Kirk Cousins at that. I'm just okay, So,

2447
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:10,719
Speaker 3: like you're saying, just because he's better than Kirk Cousins,

2448
01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,759
Speaker 3: I need him to be better as good as Patrick Mahomes.

2449
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 6: Well, No, right, Okay, like I need him to be.

2450
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:16,280
Speaker 5: Side Patrick Mahoon.

2451
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,920
Speaker 3: If I'm fred, That's not what I said.

2452
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,880
Speaker 5: If I'm going to be as good as Patrick Mahomes, if.

2453
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 3: I'm going to commit to him like that, I need

2454
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 3: him to be an upper echelon quarterback. I don't believe

2455
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:26,920
Speaker 3: he is.

2456
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,680
Speaker 5: Okay, but I if, and I don't know.

2457
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 3: Being better than Kirk Cousins doesn't make him an upper

2458
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:33,360
Speaker 3: echelon quarterback to me is my point.

2459
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 5: Oh, I think it does.

2460
01:47:34,360 --> 01:47:34,839
Speaker 3: It doesn't.

2461
01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 5: I think it does.

2462
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 6: I'm with Paul. I think, like I'm looking at, is

2463
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 6: this guy going to get This guy.

2464
01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:41,680
Speaker 3: Can get me to the playoffs every year and I

2465
01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:43,720
Speaker 3: can be the six or seventh seed, or if I'm

2466
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 3: in a terrible division, I could be the fourth seed

2467
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:47,640
Speaker 3: Kirk Baker Mayfield did this year.

2468
01:47:47,640 --> 01:47:49,959
Speaker 5: If quarterbacks in the NFL, no, No.

2469
01:47:50,120 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 3: Not in my opinion.

2470
01:47:51,080 --> 01:47:52,320
Speaker 5: No.

2471
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,519
Speaker 3: Now that changes, that can change from year to year.

2472
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 3: But I don't think that he's getting you where you

2473
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 3: want to go.

2474
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,440
Speaker 6: I mean maybe he's around there, but he's trending.

2475
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:02,760
Speaker 5: Really because he got hurt because he was friending up,

2476
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:03,439
Speaker 5: because he's old.

2477
01:48:03,479 --> 01:48:05,160
Speaker 8: I mean, he's played with I mean, I think we've

2478
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:07,240
Speaker 8: probably seen the best of Kirk Cousins that we've seen.

2479
01:48:07,240 --> 01:48:09,320
Speaker 3: I would agree with I would agree with Deuce, and

2480
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 3: I like Kirk Cousins, I just don't love him.

2481
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 5: But better than Kirk Cousins, to me, is a starting

2482
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,400
Speaker 5: quarterback in the NFL that can win you the championship.

2483
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 3: If everything you know, Kirk Cousins can't win you a championship,

2484
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:23,000
Speaker 3: and I don't think Baker Mayfield can't either, but I'm.

2485
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:24,800
Speaker 5: Saying better than Kirk Cousins can do it.

2486
01:48:26,080 --> 01:48:28,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean more of Cousins than I do.

2487
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 5: I guess I do.

2488
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:29,640
Speaker 8: No.

2489
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 3: I mean, I think he's a ten to twenty guy,

2490
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:33,800
Speaker 3: not a not a one to ten guy. But I

2491
01:48:33,800 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 3: mean I don't have the numbers in front of me.

2492
01:48:35,400 --> 01:48:38,759
Speaker 3: Maybe he's you hook him up with a VP winning

2493
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 3: for me.

2494
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:40,759
Speaker 6: I mean, I see what you're saying.

2495
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:42,760
Speaker 3: For, but I I he was already hooked up with

2496
01:48:42,800 --> 01:48:43,639
Speaker 3: a VP. Yeah.

2497
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 6: I really respond to what Paul was saying just about.

2498
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 8: You know, if this guy can't, if I can't convince

2499
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,719
Speaker 8: myself that this quarterback can get us past Josh Allen

2500
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 8: Tua and Mahomes like, then I don't really want it,

2501
01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:56,920
Speaker 8: you know, Like I want to build to that, like

2502
01:48:56,960 --> 01:48:58,680
Speaker 8: I'd rather have a guy that I at least can

2503
01:48:59,040 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 8: you know, fake my self out, in which I'd say

2504
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 8: I'd rather have Jacoby Pressett for a year, saying all right,

2505
01:49:03,479 --> 01:49:05,479
Speaker 8: yes it, we're just holding the seat, but we put

2506
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:08,000
Speaker 8: some other pieces that will get us back past the

2507
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:10,280
Speaker 8: Chiefs and the Bills and the Dolphins. You know, then

2508
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 8: if we got to go find the quarterback next year,

2509
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 8: we'll try next year too. But it's a I don't know,

2510
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 8: I just I don't really want to spin my wheels

2511
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:18,640
Speaker 8: with some guy who's going to get us into the

2512
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:20,560
Speaker 8: seventh seed and then you go into Kansas City or

2513
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:22,320
Speaker 8: Buffalo in the first round you get smoked.

2514
01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 5: Ellen what Wisconsin says, Wow, Fred is absolutely nailing the

2515
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:27,280
Speaker 5: Reeds today.

2516
01:49:28,280 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 3: We did we should have mentioned that at the top.

2517
01:49:30,920 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 3: We did hire a an announcer, a professional announcer. So

2518
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:36,640
Speaker 3: now we have reads.

2519
01:49:36,439 --> 01:49:41,120
Speaker 6: Right up, not you, that's you may.

2520
01:49:41,840 --> 01:49:43,599
Speaker 3: Now she's thinking, she's like, do I get am.

2521
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:45,519
Speaker 6: I already out so there'll be no money.

2522
01:49:45,560 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 5: Spein Fresnow says Paul's sympathy for Caleb Williams is completely understandable.

2523
01:49:50,479 --> 01:49:53,720
Speaker 5: Whether it's Dogs Greats or John Hughes movies. Paul is

2524
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:57,479
Speaker 5: a big time crier and admirably stands up for his

2525
01:49:57,520 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 5: own kind.

2526
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:02,519
Speaker 3: It's true, I am a crier. You all right, Uh,

2527
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:03,719
Speaker 3: let's go back.

2528
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:06,479
Speaker 5: To the phones. We'll go with to Trey in Memphis.

2529
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 5: What's up, Tray, Hey.

2530
01:50:09,080 --> 01:50:10,000
Speaker 13: Guys, how's it going?

2531
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:10,559
Speaker 5: All right?

2532
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:15,120
Speaker 13: Hey, Tamary, I heard you of Divine nine, so I'm

2533
01:50:15,120 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 13: winning to benue a k.

2534
01:50:16,920 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 1: Yes, you're correct, Okay, well I'm part of Divine nine.

2535
01:50:20,800 --> 01:50:24,720
Speaker 13: Also, Mago south Fire Paternity played in Missisippi Valley State.

2536
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:33,960
Speaker 13: That's amazing, all right, So let's get to the Paul everybody.

2537
01:50:34,360 --> 01:50:36,800
Speaker 13: As far as the receivers goal, I had a chance

2538
01:50:36,840 --> 01:50:40,720
Speaker 13: to put my eyes on Elak neighbors I think that's

2539
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 13: his name, or the receivers chance to see him. I

2540
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:48,639
Speaker 13: had a chance to see him against old men. Man.

2541
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:50,800
Speaker 13: That kid has all the juice you want.

2542
01:50:51,680 --> 01:50:53,639
Speaker 6: He has juice, he's awesome.

2543
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 13: So even though he has juice, I still want to

2544
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:01,960
Speaker 13: go back. I mean, I want to go well. I

2545
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:03,680
Speaker 13: just feel like this is what we have to do.

2546
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:08,720
Speaker 13: And as far as Kayler Williams, I understand of the

2547
01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:12,280
Speaker 13: emotional side, I mean, but I think those tears came

2548
01:51:12,360 --> 01:51:15,760
Speaker 13: from just really being pitched off because the kid ran

2549
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:19,960
Speaker 13: for his life, never blamed anybody. I always said, he

2550
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:24,000
Speaker 13: wish he could have did more for the team to win.

2551
01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 13: I mean, so I just think those tiers, those were

2552
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,680
Speaker 13: tiers of frustrations because when you think about it, a

2553
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 13: lot of people are you know, they said the kid

2554
01:51:33,080 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 13: has character issues, not once that the kid blamed anyone.

2555
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:40,200
Speaker 13: He didn't throw anybody under the bus he I mean,

2556
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:44,000
Speaker 13: so the character issue apart, I kind of have you know,

2557
01:51:44,160 --> 01:51:47,680
Speaker 13: issue with that. I mean, but you know, the kid

2558
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:52,760
Speaker 13: is a superb talent. I mean, so I'm not gonna

2559
01:51:52,800 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 13: hold those tiers against him. I mean, so what you

2560
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 13: gotta speak about that, I'll take it off the air.

2561
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:59,799
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, hey he just stopped playing.

2562
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:03,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, Rudy, get you Rudy. The movie?

2563
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 8: Uh no, when the brother the brother not not not

2564
01:52:08,800 --> 01:52:10,919
Speaker 8: crying anatomy?

2565
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 5: I mean, come on, he went to high school with

2566
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:13,559
Speaker 5: Meredith Gray.

2567
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:14,559
Speaker 6: It's personal.

2568
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:16,960
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, what why have you never told.

2569
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:22,320
Speaker 3: Me this because I don't really like her? Yeah, Ellen, Pompio,

2570
01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:24,840
Speaker 3: it was Pompio, then it's Pompeo.

2571
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,800
Speaker 6: Now I believe like POMPEII.

2572
01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:30,600
Speaker 1: Right, Wow, is.

2573
01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:31,840
Speaker 6: That still yeah.

2574
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:34,720
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a long running It is just.

2575
01:52:34,680 --> 01:52:39,200
Speaker 3: Like long order rhymes like billions, now no particular order.

2576
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 3: I have fifteen that I would take over Mayfield or

2577
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 3: her cousins.

2578
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 5: Okay, I love the.

2579
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:50,680
Speaker 3: Mahomes, Alan Burrow, Jackson, Hurt, Stafford, Tour, Rogers, Watson, Stroud, Herbert, Lawrence, Prescott,

2580
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:53,720
Speaker 3: Love and Murray. And I don't think I hit every

2581
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:56,120
Speaker 3: team yet, Like, I just got to the point where

2582
01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:56,840
Speaker 3: I got that many.

2583
01:52:56,880 --> 01:52:59,320
Speaker 6: And Okay, I thought you're gonna say fifteen movies.

2584
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 5: I don't think Murray is the only one I might not.

2585
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 3: Well, I figured you'd have a problem too.

2586
01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:09,479
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, two or two? Two or two? Andrew and Maine.

2587
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:10,519
Speaker 5: What's up? Andrew?

2588
01:53:12,479 --> 01:53:13,840
Speaker 19: Hey guys, first time caller.

2589
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:14,479
Speaker 5: Thanks.

2590
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 33: Two quick questions. We talked about getting rid of Mac

2591
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:27,280
Speaker 33: Jones and Bailey Zappy. First thoughts would be what what

2592
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 33: would we get for draft capital for them? Or are

2593
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:30,360
Speaker 33: we just cutting them?

2594
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 3: I'm not even considering that conditional sixth Yeah, maybe seventh.

2595
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not even Yeah, I don't.

2596
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,519
Speaker 3: I don't think there's much. Yeah, I mean talk about

2597
01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,719
Speaker 3: a depressed asset. Yeah, Mac Jones, Yeah.

2598
01:53:44,840 --> 01:53:47,439
Speaker 19: I assumed as much. But then the second question would

2599
01:53:47,479 --> 01:53:49,439
Speaker 19: be if we do take Jad and Daniels as three,

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01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 19: what becomes more important in the second round the tackle

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01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:58,799
Speaker 19: or a wide receiver. Just given Daniels, Yeah.

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01:53:59,680 --> 01:54:00,599
Speaker 3: It's hard you take him.

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01:54:00,600 --> 01:54:02,200
Speaker 8: You're going to watch the train go by with the

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01:54:02,240 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 8: tackle if you take But if you take Jan Daniels,

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01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 8: do you need a certain type of tackle, like a

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01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,160
Speaker 8: more athletic guy.

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01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 5: I don't know.

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01:54:09,479 --> 01:54:11,600
Speaker 3: I don't think so, but I think tackle will be

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01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:14,439
Speaker 3: more important because you got a young quarterback. I think

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01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:14,800
Speaker 3: the prior.

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01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 8: That's my instinct, and I think still like I would

2612
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 8: feel fine getting a pretty good wide receiver, maybe not

2613
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,840
Speaker 8: like potential elite kind of guy, but somebody can come

2614
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:23,479
Speaker 8: in contribute.

2615
01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,559
Speaker 3: And that's where Higgins, Yeah, you sign a guy in

2616
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 3: free agency, it's not going to be that. But yeah,

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01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 3: I agree with Fred. You get a veteran wide receiver,

2618
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:34,840
Speaker 3: you're not probably getting a veteran tackle. I mean, that's

2619
01:54:34,920 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 3: not a great class of free agent tackle.

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01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:39,959
Speaker 8: And that's why it's like we sit here in early February,

2621
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:41,640
Speaker 8: like things are going to change so much as free

2622
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:43,760
Speaker 8: agency happens, because they're going to address some of these

2623
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 8: positions with you know, I mean, they'll they'll retain some

2624
01:54:46,400 --> 01:54:48,400
Speaker 8: of their own free agents, and you know, maybe one

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01:54:48,440 --> 01:54:51,080
Speaker 8: of these needs probably I mean probably not quarterback, tackler.

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01:54:51,160 --> 01:54:55,120
Speaker 5: I'm with Freddie wide receiver guys come available in the

2627
01:54:55,200 --> 01:54:56,400
Speaker 5: summer that you didn't expect.

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01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:57,880
Speaker 3: Absolutely those post June. First.

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01:54:58,360 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 6: I've heard that before.

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01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 3: Actually, that you now designate in like April, that's like

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01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:04,480
Speaker 3: going in the future. What else?

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01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 5: Andrew, you said you had two points that, Okay.

2633
01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:12,920
Speaker 3: Appreciate you what you get for Jones and Zappi.

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01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:15,720
Speaker 5: And then I mean, obviously you want to get something

2635
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:17,480
Speaker 5: for these guys. You know, you don't want.

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01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,280
Speaker 3: To I think you could get a conditional drug.

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01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:21,680
Speaker 5: To me, it's not a factor. I think it's just

2638
01:55:21,800 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 5: more just a cleansing starting over.

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01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:25,720
Speaker 6: Well, it's like we talked about it.

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01:55:25,720 --> 01:55:27,640
Speaker 8: I think I think some of mac Jones's problems are

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01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:29,320
Speaker 8: specific to the Patriots, and I'm sure that there are

2642
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:31,720
Speaker 8: other personnel staffs out there that liked him coming out

2643
01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 8: and said, you know, and again, it's like quarterbacks are

2644
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 8: their own special class, Like he'll get a chance again

2645
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 8: somewhere else.

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01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 6: That's just the nature of the position. I mean, it's

2647
01:55:39,720 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 6: just the league is desperate for quarterbacks.

2648
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,080
Speaker 5: Like Paul mentioned this kid from the Jets that play right.

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01:55:45,280 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 5: If he can have a job, Mac Jones can certainly

2650
01:55:47,320 --> 01:55:47,480
Speaker 5: have it.

2651
01:55:47,600 --> 01:55:49,440
Speaker 3: Oh, he's definitely going to have a job. Will he

2652
01:55:49,480 --> 01:55:52,600
Speaker 3: ever be a starting quarterback for someone again is the question.

2653
01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 3: But he's definitely He's not going to be out of

2654
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:54,800
Speaker 3: the league.

2655
01:55:54,640 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 1: Next year if Sam Donald has a job Jones.

2656
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:01,840
Speaker 3: Sam Donald was far better as the quarterback of the

2657
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:02,720
Speaker 3: Jets Jaredan.

2658
01:56:04,040 --> 01:56:06,400
Speaker 5: No buzz for free agency this year, seems we all

2659
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:09,560
Speaker 5: skipped ahead to the draft. Mayo said, we have cash

2660
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,880
Speaker 5: to burn, but how much do we want to spend

2661
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 5: on a rebuilding team. I don't think I want a

2662
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,760
Speaker 5: bunch of high price free agents here in twenty twenty four.

2663
01:56:17,160 --> 01:56:19,840
Speaker 5: I wonder if dumping Parker and Smith Schuster counts as

2664
01:56:19,880 --> 01:56:20,400
Speaker 5: burning cast.

2665
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,680
Speaker 3: Well, how about going back to the future and doing

2666
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 3: the two thousand and one method. Yeah, of quantity, Yeah,

2667
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,320
Speaker 3: just sign a bunch of free agents. No big money guys,

2668
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 3: No necessarily guys that are gonna like gone her headlines.

2669
01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:38,560
Speaker 3: But think about some of those players that you got

2670
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 3: Rabel and yeah, you know that whole crew with Mike

2671
01:56:42,720 --> 01:56:48,920
Speaker 3: Compton and Mike Grabel, Larry Larry, and I hear what

2672
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:51,120
Speaker 3: you're saying, I just love like they weren't big name guys,

2673
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,400
Speaker 3: but but a lot of them were really valuable.

2674
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'd love to be just I mean, you know,

2675
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 8: and they were able to get a left tackle in

2676
01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 8: the second round that year too, so you know, like

2677
01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:03,320
Speaker 8: it's I just would like some splashes.

2678
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,160
Speaker 6: I think they need to make. I think I think

2679
01:57:04,200 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 6: they need to.

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01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:06,440
Speaker 8: As much as we want to talk about offense, I

2681
01:57:06,440 --> 01:57:10,280
Speaker 8: think defensively they need to look at pass rusher. You know,

2682
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 8: I know Josh Allen probably not getting away from the Jags,

2683
01:57:12,680 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 8: but you know there's a number of good pass rusher

2684
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:18,000
Speaker 8: defensive front. Guy Greenard from Houston's another one, you know,

2685
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,080
Speaker 8: not a huge, huge name, but I think that's a position.

2686
01:57:21,240 --> 01:57:23,560
Speaker 8: And you know, Jennings and ucha are are free agents too,

2687
01:57:23,600 --> 01:57:26,560
Speaker 8: but Judon getting old, probably gonna have a contract issue.

2688
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 8: He's gonna want dealt with this summer. I think that's

2689
01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:30,760
Speaker 8: an area to look at too, is just to give them,

2690
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,400
Speaker 8: you know, don't give him a ton on defense. I

2691
01:57:32,400 --> 01:57:33,920
Speaker 8: don't think you need it, but I do think that

2692
01:57:33,960 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 8: front seven needs some.

2693
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:37,560
Speaker 5: Before we close out the show, at half time, we

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Speaker 5: played uh snippets from the Super sequel Mike's podcast Extravaganza.

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Speaker 5: Go and download that wherever you get your podcast, Patriots

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Speaker 5: part one.

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Speaker 6: Part two will be come out of both out out now.

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