Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to Movie Crush. It's just another
Speaker 1: mini Crush Monday. It's just another mini Monday. Why can't
Speaker 1: it be another day? Is that where we're going with that? No,
Speaker 1: you are the sugar in my coffee man. Nice work.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you would be hip to that.
Speaker 1: I had a cathartic experience last night, Chuck, and thank
Speaker 1: you for acknowledging my my hipster to my hip Tom.
Speaker 1: I saw the Muppet Movie for the first time, in
Speaker 1: my original Muppet movie, and it was like pure joy.
Speaker 1: It's just made me feel I've been whistling the Rainbow
Speaker 1: connection all morning. Yeah. Great movie, really good. I mean
Speaker 1: imagine seeing it that whatever age I was like nine,
Speaker 1: What year did that come out? Seventy nine? Actually all right,
Speaker 1: I was eight, and it was just like it opened
Speaker 1: And Josh and I talked about this on the I
Speaker 1: believe the Muppet or the Henson episode of stuff you
Speaker 1: should know. But if you had only seen like Sesame
Speaker 1: Street and stuff like that, you had not seen the
Speaker 1: world opened up like this. And then that very first
Speaker 1: bit with Kermit in the boat, uh, he like opens
Speaker 1: up with him in a rowboat, right? Is that? Dom Deloise,
Speaker 1: who was the guy that plays the agent. I swear
Speaker 1: it looked like him, but I don't remember seeing his
Speaker 1: name in the credits. I don't remember the gold tooth.
Speaker 1: He's the guy that's like, come to Hollywood. Yea, there's
Speaker 1: an audition being had for Frogs. I don't remember it
Speaker 1: very well. Might have been. It might have been, because
Speaker 1: that was certainly the peak Dom Deloise time. I met
Speaker 1: him once when I was a little kid. Yep, he
Speaker 1: was out at Stowe Mountain Park and we saw him
Speaker 1: walking around and he was like, I believe no, I'm
Speaker 1: positive he was the very first famous person I had
Speaker 1: ever met, and he signed an envelope for us and
Speaker 1: was really nice, and I just always thought that was
Speaker 1: kind of cool. Yes, I did confirm that he is
Speaker 1: Bernie the agent, the guy in the rowboat in thee
Speaker 1: that again it's been too long. Well, it's like the
Speaker 1: thing it was cool for me is I've never seen it,
Speaker 1: and so all these cameos were just pure surprises to me.
Speaker 1: And it's like Steve Martin plays the rude waiter at
Speaker 1: the Lodge and uh, I took my kid and we
Speaker 1: just we we laughed and laughed. Did play in the theater, well,
Speaker 1: the Midtown Arts Cinema, our local little kind of art
Speaker 1: house theater does a series every summer, and this one
Speaker 1: was Movies about mood making movies, and it was like
Speaker 1: stuff like eight and a half and The Day for Night,
Speaker 1: and then they tossed them up at movie and then
Speaker 1: because it's totally a meta movie about making movies, and
Speaker 1: I really thought about that. It's it was a really
Speaker 1: clever choice. And the guy that the guy did a
Speaker 1: talk and it is just great. What guy. His name
Speaker 1: is um Eddie von Mueller, and he is a history
Speaker 1: um like animation historian at the Georgia State and he
Speaker 1: was actually heavily featured on the Cartoon Network collaboration podcast
Speaker 1: we did with Holly Fry uh Drawn the Story of Animation. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was a big voice on that, just as it's
Speaker 1: like kind of an expert opinion, full circle Noll, that's
Speaker 1: what you call that, all right. So I think what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this week is just do a couple
Speaker 1: of segments because I always feel bad that we so
Speaker 1: many people leave such great comments and questions and we
Speaker 1: don't get to him. So we're gonna do some tropes
Speaker 1: and some questions because boy, the movie Crushers tropes thread
Speaker 1: has exploded with close to three hundred tropes, and I
Speaker 1: would say easily two thirds of those are legitimate tropes,
Speaker 1: which is not bad, you know, No, that's pretty damn good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's an I mean, I feel like we keep discovering
Speaker 1: new ones or variations on when we've discussed. But there's like,
Speaker 1: the world of tropes is wide open, my friend, It
Speaker 1: is wide open. Oh and you know, Josh and I
Speaker 1: actually yesterday we recorded a stuff you Should Know episode
Speaker 1: on police lineups and we were talking about all the
Speaker 1: lineup tropes. Of course that that you see, it gets
Speaker 1: parodied a lot, even you know, where there's just like
Speaker 1: every person in the lineup is some stereotype of like
Speaker 1: a particular overblown you know, caricature of the type of
Speaker 1: criminal and that kind of stuff. Yeah, for sure. And
Speaker 1: there's something also called a show up, which is easily
Speaker 1: scientifically the worst. It's not even lineup, it's the it's
Speaker 1: but you've seen it in movies. It's when they bring
Speaker 1: you to a if you're the victim of a crime,
Speaker 1: they bring you to a place like where they have
Speaker 1: just fingered the guy and they like pull him out
Speaker 1: of the police car handcuffed. Say, is is this the
Speaker 1: dirt bags the guy? Is this the guy? That's a
Speaker 1: real thing. It's called a show up. And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: there is no science to that. It seems intense. You
Speaker 1: are also like probably like freshly upset, you know, and
Speaker 1: they and they pull someone out of it. So it's
Speaker 1: heavily weighted in your mind because they pull someone out
Speaker 1: of a police car in handcuffs, so they don't appear
Speaker 1: innocent in any way. They still do that, You think, yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: I bet they do. Law enforcement. Man, it's got a
Speaker 1: long way to go, all right, So let's get down
Speaker 1: to business on some of these submitted tropes. Uh all right,
Speaker 1: Chris uh Chris. Chris Wallzac says getting a vehicle or
Speaker 1: spaceship through a tight space by turning it on its side.
Speaker 1: I remember the old days. The big trick in the
Speaker 1: seventies was they would do that with cars and and
Speaker 1: you would ride on two wheels, like they would go
Speaker 1: off the ramp, you know, only sideways. But I'm thinking
Speaker 1: like Millennium Falcon style, like flipping sideways, going through the
Speaker 1: crevice and the Death Star and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: I would argue that maybe that movie established that as
Speaker 1: like a super cool thing that then everyone wanted to
Speaker 1: kind of do so sub to quin, space movies kind
Speaker 1: of started doing that. You gotta be the right shape, though,
Speaker 1: Willima and Falcons built for that. That's true. I mean
Speaker 1: the flatness of that ship made that possible. But then again,
Speaker 1: like design of space movies started mimicking start. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know it was. It was really like the Big
Speaker 1: the Big Space movie. Janet James Allman. This is a
Speaker 1: good one, Janet. She says, someone is about to make
Speaker 1: a confession when the door bursts open. That happens all
Speaker 1: the time, either a love confession or really any kind
Speaker 1: of confession, or you're about to kiss. I believe we
Speaker 1: mentioned that one. And you get interrupted every time, of course,
Speaker 1: and they still do that because I guess it's a
Speaker 1: valuable device because it builds romantic tension, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: give you the release that you so crave. It saves
Speaker 1: that for a little later. Do you crave release, nol?
Speaker 1: I crave it daily growth. Uh let me see here,
Speaker 1: Clinton Barrett, this is a good one. Tapping a gauge
Speaker 1: in a desperate situation and then kicking the machine while
Speaker 1: saying work you infernal machine or something along those are
Speaker 1: you damn thing? Yeah, tapping the gauge is fun because
Speaker 1: it is usually like that starts to get the gauge
Speaker 1: to read correctly, right, Is that the deal? I'll just
Speaker 1: tap it. Man. Did you hear any of the audio
Speaker 1: from that the guy in Seattle who took the plane?
Speaker 1: I did. We did a little segment about it on
Speaker 1: stuff that I want you to know. Actually fascinating that
Speaker 1: whole bit. It's like twelve minutes or so. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: says something like, um, he knew how to deploy the
Speaker 1: landing gear just just for Anny wh who this guy
Speaker 1: in Seattle stole a plane. Um, he was a like
Speaker 1: a worker, I believe, like on the you know, the runways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he stole a plane. And it's not clear entirely
Speaker 1: if it was with the intent to kill himself, but
Speaker 1: it was it was definitely clear was it was with
Speaker 1: the intent to fly a plane. And he knew how
Speaker 1: to do it well enough, just from having played fight
Speaker 1: flight simulators and video games and stuff that thing for
Speaker 1: a while. And he did like barrel rolls and stuff.
Speaker 1: And the guys on the ground that we're talking to him,
Speaker 1: We're like, Wow, I didn't think you were gonna pull
Speaker 1: that one off. Man, It's so sad to listen to it.
Speaker 1: It's very heartbreaking. It is. He seems like a nice kid,
Speaker 1: he but he kind of says some self deprecating lee
Speaker 1: suicidal things anyway, kind of painful side tracking their folks.
Speaker 1: But it made me think of tapping gauges, because I
Speaker 1: bet he tapped the gauges. Uh. Let me see here.
Speaker 1: Athena Black says, I'm sitting here watching a movie in
Speaker 1: a classic classic trope, just happened the whole dramatically brush
Speaker 1: everything off the table trope. Uh, it's usually spontaneous sex
Speaker 1: scene or a stressed out strategic explanation or some military
Speaker 1: world saving maneuver. That's where they just need a clean
Speaker 1: surface on which to accomplish some important task, like a
Speaker 1: sex scene. Have you ever strategic millet never raked everything
Speaker 1: off of the table for a strategic military planning? Sash absolutely, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: not not for sex. Don't I prefer, you know, a
Speaker 1: cushion of some kind? Yeah? Who wants have six on
Speaker 1: the table? Crazy people in movies, chuck, Uh, let me
Speaker 1: see here. Swimming for Harvey Anthony Hook. I like the
Speaker 1: name Harvey. That's a good name. Yeah, it says if
Speaker 1: the imaginary bunny and that Jimmy Stuart. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: hear Harvey enough anymore. Uh. Swimming for ages underwater on
Speaker 1: a single breath, Oh boy, that's certainly the truth. Sometimes
Speaker 1: in movies like that, I will, uh, I'll try and
Speaker 1: hold my breath as they're doing it, just to see, how,
Speaker 1: you know, long I can go? How long can you go? Chuck? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not very like I used to. They used to
Speaker 1: be better a minute. Well, when I was a lifeguard,
Speaker 1: I could swim full lap down and about a half
Speaker 1: a lap back on the water. And this was a
Speaker 1: you know regulation like swim me it's about a minute
Speaker 1: a half maybe pretty good, it's pretty good. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no way I could now, well, I mean neither. But
Speaker 1: but then in these movies, though, they go not only
Speaker 1: do they not breathe, they're going crazy deep and then
Speaker 1: by the time like they're running out of breath. And
Speaker 1: there's another trope too, they're running out of breath and
Speaker 1: they got a surface and they're like, you know, scrabbling
Speaker 1: to get to the surface, and then the giant breath
Speaker 1: at the end relief. Yeah, that's that's a part of that,
Speaker 1: and that's a two part trope. All that stuff makes
Speaker 1: me nervous. Me too, U Okay, Jake Hale says when
Speaker 1: blood is needed for some reason and the character cut
Speaker 1: the palm of their hand, there are many other places
Speaker 1: to cut where it wouldn't be so debilitating. Oh. I
Speaker 1: think he's talking about maybe like a vampire scenario. You know,
Speaker 1: like an interview with a vampire, they often like cut
Speaker 1: their hand or bite their wrist or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, when when has there ever been a
Speaker 1: moment in a movie where someone gave a legit blood
Speaker 1: transfusion using a cut on their own body. I don't
Speaker 1: don't think that's what. I don't think that's how it works. No,
Speaker 1: So when he says when blood is needed, what are
Speaker 1: we talking about here? I don't know. I was. I
Speaker 1: was gonna think maybe Blood Brothers, but you've got to
Speaker 1: be the hand because shake hands. I know, Blood Brothers.
Speaker 1: I don't like cutting. I don't know if I've mentioned
Speaker 1: this on the show. That's the thing I don't care
Speaker 1: for in movies. I don't like watching like broats being
Speaker 1: slit or that's I don't like it, which is funny
Speaker 1: because I have. I've never broken a bone, but I've
Speaker 1: been stitched up probably one too, three four. I've been
Speaker 1: stitched up like five times in my life, but never
Speaker 1: broken the bone, including NL. Here's a little something. I
Speaker 1: don't know if anyone has ever heard. I almost bit
Speaker 1: my tongue off when I was like ten. What would
Speaker 1: we just like surprised or something? No, I fell down
Speaker 1: playing no bit you know. I think I got like
Speaker 1: eight stitches across my tongue. Chez. Yeah, I've never had
Speaker 1: a stitch, never broken a bone either, really, never had
Speaker 1: a stitch. No, no, not a stitch. Man. I cut
Speaker 1: my foot open, I cut my shin open, I cut
Speaker 1: my head open. I cut my tongue off rough rough
Speaker 1: childhood there and none of none of them were ever
Speaker 1: cuts though, like they were Fromino. None of the more
Speaker 1: knife related. Yes, that's O good, but I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: Uh let me see here, Melissa Cooney not Clooney, but
Speaker 1: Cooney says character one finds out that character too hasn't
Speaker 1: had a certain food. Character too tries the food and
Speaker 1: is astounded because their life has been so blanned without
Speaker 1: this wonder, is that a trope? I'm not sure has
Speaker 1: that happened once? Well, that's the problem with some of
Speaker 1: these is like they seem so iconic, but then if
Speaker 1: you really look back through the fossil record that is movies,
Speaker 1: you might only find one instance of it. But you know,
Speaker 1: we're we're not we're not forensically researching these, We're just
Speaker 1: kind of like rattling them off. So it's possible that
Speaker 1: some of these quote unquote tropes may have only happened
Speaker 1: once or twice. If it's twice, is it a trope?
Speaker 1: How many times does it take to make a trope? Oh? Five?
Speaker 1: Geez yeah, more at least at least Okay, Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I think a trope has to be in five movies
Speaker 1: a year. I think, yeah, I think that's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jamison Ousley, why can't anyone in a movie use a
Speaker 1: blender without sending its contents all over the kitchen? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm supposed that's happened a good sight gag uh. Bill
Speaker 1: g says man or woman who works too much and
Speaker 1: is first introduced while on his or her cell phone. Sure,
Speaker 1: phone phones are overused in movies, I think for different things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for some reason, I'm picturing um Jim Carey and liar, liar.
Speaker 1: You know he's he's like the overworked, aggressive lawyer dad
Speaker 1: and you know who gave us to get his come
Speaker 1: up and and become a good guy. So he's always
Speaker 1: on the phone and ignoring, you know, his familial duties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Uh cement. She says when a character is
Speaker 1: shot and they think they're dead, but they have something
Speaker 1: tucked away in their shirt pocket that has prevented the bullet.
Speaker 1: That's a classic one. I think we talked about this. Wait, no,
Speaker 1: I know what it was. It was in an episode
Speaker 1: of Ridiculous History where we were talking about this guy
Speaker 1: who was a Korean soldier who ended up being conscripted
Speaker 1: by like the Japanese army, the German army, and the
Speaker 1: American Army. But in that story, there was a side
Speaker 1: story about the guy who played Scottie on Star trek Um.
Speaker 1: He was in World War Two and he got shot
Speaker 1: and a cigarette case saved his life. So that really
Speaker 1: it was a real life thing that that certainly is
Speaker 1: is all over the movies. Yeah, you've definitely seen cigarette cases, Yeah,
Speaker 1: or a zippo or or some special keepsake that someone
Speaker 1: has just recently given you two. That's that's a good one.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Oh, that that always happens, like
Speaker 1: if someone it's sort of like if you see the
Speaker 1: gun in the first act has to go off in
Speaker 1: the third. If someone gives you a hard metal case
Speaker 1: in the first act will save your life in the third.
Speaker 1: Chekov's case is what they call that. Really, Chekhov's gun
Speaker 1: is the gun thing. Okay, it's like, if you know
Speaker 1: the gun that's displayed on the mantel, it's eventually going
Speaker 1: to be used in some scene. Chekov's gun, Audrey Brotzman, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is a good one. When someone when a few
Speaker 1: people are having a discussion and two of them step
Speaker 1: away to have the private discussion, it's always like five
Speaker 1: ft from the other person totally. It was like, dude,
Speaker 1: they can totally here you absolutely well, it always it
Speaker 1: all goes back to the Shakespearean aside. You know, Oh,
Speaker 1: it probably right. I think maybe it's just like the
Speaker 1: idea that it's it's suspending disbelief. You know. Oh, you
Speaker 1: were bringing tremendous insight today, So do my best, because
Speaker 1: we didn't do bong hits uh Peter Griffin. Peter Griffin. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's me Peter Griffin from Hawk knocking a rider uh
Speaker 1: off a motorcycle to steal it, pick up the bike,
Speaker 1: then proceeds to immediately to a wheelie as he drives away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was pretty bad. Peter was fine, man, Peter Griffin
Speaker 1: is already like a bad impression of a guy from
Speaker 1: Where are they from? I think it's like Rhode Island,
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. Yeah, it's like that chap aquittic kind of
Speaker 1: Kennedy accent. You know, maybe I should have done Cleveland.
Speaker 1: That wasn't bad Cleveland. Cleveland's good. I like that voice.
Speaker 1: I just I saw that movie chap Aquittic. By the way,
Speaker 1: on the plane the other day. We interviewed the director
Speaker 1: on stuff they don't want you to know. Yeah, I was,
Speaker 1: and I wasn't there that day. But did you get
Speaker 1: to see the movie? I did. Yeah, we saw a
Speaker 1: screener of But I thought it was really good. It
Speaker 1: was good. Yeah, it had a I mean it had
Speaker 1: a bit of a movie of the Week quality, but
Speaker 1: h a really good movie of the week. Absolutely, No,
Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, but like it definitely like
Speaker 1: what Ed Helms is in it, and he's play the
Speaker 1: guy that plays Kennedy is is fantastic And yeah, no
Speaker 1: it's if anyone hasn't seen that one. It didn't really
Speaker 1: make the rounds in a big way. I know, it
Speaker 1: was kind of under the radar. I thought it was
Speaker 1: quite good though. Yeah, I agreed. Boy, I'd love to
Speaker 1: seeing Ed Helms to a a drama like that. He
Speaker 1: was great. John Taylor Wesley, Yeah, this is a good one, boy,
Speaker 1: And this isn't almost every Western ever guy goes to
Speaker 1: a bar and just waves at the bartender and the
Speaker 1: bartender just serves a drink some whatever drink. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean it's kind of like saying beer, that's true, Like
Speaker 1: who does that? I will say this though, I I
Speaker 1: have a two neighborhood bars at which I am a regular,
Speaker 1: and they definitely know my drink and they don't have
Speaker 1: to ask me. All Right, I'm gonna guess this is
Speaker 1: a game called guests knowles bar huh um. I know
Speaker 1: where you live? You still live in the same place. Well,
Speaker 1: I will give you a clue. They are more in
Speaker 1: relation to here where we are now than than my
Speaker 1: than my home. Okay, I should make it even easier. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with one right in this very building then,
Speaker 1: and say the Mercury. No, that's too fancy for me.
Speaker 1: I would go there if someone else is paying. Um geez,
Speaker 1: what bars around here? The Righteous Room? Yeah, the Righteous Room. Really,
Speaker 1: that's my spot and the Local is my spot. Okay,
Speaker 1: So shout out to Righteous Room and local Local. I
Speaker 1: remember had good French fries. They have really good chicken wings,
Speaker 1: really good smoked wings. Really. Yeah, well, let me let
Speaker 1: me take you to the local sometime, Chuck. You know, no,
Speaker 1: you're I know you're a family man, and I know
Speaker 1: you've got stuff going on. But one day, let's do
Speaker 1: around after work. I still like to drink. Well, I
Speaker 1: know that shock, But I'm just saying we keep different
Speaker 1: slightly different hours in terms of our office comings and goings. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. I would do that for a lot of times. I'll,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll go with Ben from stuff they don't
Speaker 1: you know, and other folks are on the office and
Speaker 1: won't go Taiwan on after work. So well, I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. If Ben stays at home, I'll go with you. Um.
Speaker 1: I remember when the Righteous Room opened, By the way,
Speaker 1: that's how long. That's how long I've been around. It
Speaker 1: was to me. I still think of it as one
Speaker 1: of the new bars. I think it says I'm the Sign,
Speaker 1: but it's established or something like that. Yeah, but that
Speaker 1: was a new bar. Like when I first started going there,
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa, the Righteous Room, Like all the
Speaker 1: other bars have been here for forty years and this
Speaker 1: one is brand new. Yeah, I like it. It's my cheers. Well,
Speaker 1: and it's right For those of you don't know Atlanta,
Speaker 1: we have a very classic movie theater from the nineteen
Speaker 1: geez one was the Plaza built. It had to be
Speaker 1: the I'm Bad Time math um. But there's also a
Speaker 1: really cool old diner right next to it called the Majestic,
Speaker 1: and they clearly are of the same era. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a very kind of throwback part of Atlanta. And the
Speaker 1: Plaza Theater is owned, to believe by a couple who
Speaker 1: lovingly sort of restored it to a classic movie house
Speaker 1: and they show some really good films there and and
Speaker 1: that's where you're gonna see like your Rocky Horrors in
Speaker 1: the Room and stuff like that late night. Um, but
Speaker 1: they programmed great movies and the Righteous Room is right
Speaker 1: next door in this little shopping center. So you can
Speaker 1: go have a beer at the Righteous Room or whatever
Speaker 1: you please, and then uh saunter right next door and
Speaker 1: go to see a movie. They sort of booze at
Speaker 1: the movie theater too, they do, so you can just
Speaker 1: keep boozing it up all night long, all night long,
Speaker 1: and then call a lift because you shouldn't drive drunk.
Speaker 1: Also true. Alright, a couple of more tropes here, Uh,
Speaker 1: David Carroll, he has a couple of them. I'll go
Speaker 1: ahead and read. Both high school jocks are all violent bullies,
Speaker 1: Uh who would never respect women or be friends with
Speaker 1: non jocks. Sure, that's a jock trope. And then step
Speaker 1: dad's are evil. Yeah, I mean stepdads are so evil
Speaker 1: in movies. They They had a horror movie called The Stepfather,
Speaker 1: and I believe they even remade that horror movie. Oh
Speaker 1: I remember the Stepfather. Yeah, the guy from Lost was
Speaker 1: the stuff. He totally was lock. John Locke from Lost
Speaker 1: was the Stepfather. That's right. Yeah, I bet it doesn't
Speaker 1: hold up if we watch it now. Probably not. But
Speaker 1: there was a golden time for those kind of family
Speaker 1: drama type horror movies. Remember The good Son with the
Speaker 1: McAuley culkin where he was he was like the evil
Speaker 1: step son or no, that's not true. Elijah Wood was
Speaker 1: the stepson. He was the son and he was he
Speaker 1: was a bad, bad dude. So who was the good son? Well,
Speaker 1: the good son was Elijah Would. But I think it
Speaker 1: was sort of meant to be ironic because the mother
Speaker 1: thought that McCauley Culkin was the good son and he
Speaker 1: sort of blamed everything on Elijah Would. But in fact
Speaker 1: McAuley Culkin was a little devil spawn. And speaking of Culkin,
Speaker 1: have you seen him succession yet on HBO? It is
Speaker 1: awesome really, Oh yeah, it's like a it's about like
Speaker 1: a Rupert Murdoch esque family and like of the idea
Speaker 1: of like who's going to inherit, who's gonna run the company?
Speaker 1: And Brian Cox is in and who played Hannibal in
Speaker 1: the original Man Man Hunter and Culkin is in it,
Speaker 1: and it's it's written by the guy who wrote Um,
Speaker 1: He's got something to do with that director in Nucci
Speaker 1: who did Um Death of Stalin and Heap and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and this got man, it's so good. I
Speaker 1: watched two episodes last night and now I was just
Speaker 1: like hooked. It's all right, big check it out, big
Speaker 1: reck see. Look, we're doing recommendations to everybody. Uh. Speaking
Speaker 1: of recommendations, we also have merged. Now, by the way,
Speaker 1: get a couple of movie crush shirts if you want. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you know why not? Right? All right, We're gonna finish
Speaker 1: here with some questions. Uh these are you know, always
Speaker 1: asked for movie questions or just questions for Nolan, I
Speaker 1: and uh for me and Nol and how you say it?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm still not sure. Um, let me see here,
Speaker 1: all right. Ralph Spradley has this question for us Nol
Speaker 1: a bit of a thought experiment. Pick the war film
Speaker 1: that you, if you were fighting in a war and
Speaker 1: living it out, you would like or dislike the least
Speaker 1: to be in. Well, I just saw a Platoon for
Speaker 1: this very show again for the gazillion time, and that
Speaker 1: movie does a great, great job of h really driving
Speaker 1: home how little you would have wanted to be in
Speaker 1: the Vietnam War. Wet insect written uh, utterly frightening chaotic,
Speaker 1: uh V I mean obviously like the d D Invasion
Speaker 1: and Private Ryan like war as war. But I would
Speaker 1: say the Vietnam War probably for me. Are we talking
Speaker 1: about particular movie or yeah, Like pick a war film
Speaker 1: and like what what war in that film? Like as portrayed?
Speaker 1: Would you be like Nope, well yeah, I mean like
Speaker 1: with the World War two and World you know, the
Speaker 1: first two World wars is a lot of that trench warfare.
Speaker 1: It was a lot more um kind of what's sort
Speaker 1: of for like kind of blunt instrument warfare where it
Speaker 1: was a lot more like scrapping in the trenches and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, you might get bayonetted. You
Speaker 1: might get bayoneted, and that's terrifying in its own right.
Speaker 1: But the thing about Vietnam, I think is at least
Speaker 1: that's depicted in movies like The Deer Hunter and um
Speaker 1: Apocalypse Now is sort of the psychological toll of it
Speaker 1: and the idea of it being kind of like a hopeless,
Speaker 1: pointless war where you're literally burning villages and women and children,
Speaker 1: and the way you see people that are like your
Speaker 1: former buddies kind of losing their minds and you know,
Speaker 1: becoming like the thing that they you most kind of
Speaker 1: hate and fear. You know that that's the thing that
Speaker 1: is interesting to me about Vietnam. Interesting And yeah, Bruce
Speaker 1: Olsen says this, and I kind of agree with Bruce here,
Speaker 1: how come there are no more quotable lines for movies anymore?
Speaker 1: It feels like when I grew up in the seventies
Speaker 1: and eighties, almost every hit film had at least one line.
Speaker 1: You would hear people saying all the time. Well, I
Speaker 1: don't have an answer for that, Bruce, um, but I
Speaker 1: think I kind of agree. Um, I'm sure there are
Speaker 1: some quotable lines. But even like a movie like I know,
Speaker 1: we we talked about The Hangover, not a lot, but
Speaker 1: a few times in here, and that's a good example
Speaker 1: of just a huge, big, monster comedy hit. And I
Speaker 1: don't I can't think of a line from The Hangover
Speaker 1: that's super quotable. Hey, it's the Hangover, you know, can you?
Speaker 1: I mean, there any big iconic line. Absolutely not. I
Speaker 1: mean often I will say the funny line for me,
Speaker 1: I will say this A lot around the house is
Speaker 1: with me and Emily and Ruby is We're the three
Speaker 1: best friends that anyone could have. That's good, that's good,
Speaker 1: but that's not some icon did not invade the mind
Speaker 1: of of the zeitgeist. Not not like a Show Me
Speaker 1: the Money or something like that. Yeah, or even like
Speaker 1: you know, Big Lebowski, you know, which which just was
Speaker 1: more of a sleeper hit. Uh, that's probably more quotable
Speaker 1: divides if we believe in Nothing Lebowski. It cuts off Johnson.
Speaker 1: That's it's fairly Maybe maybe I'm just into it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you eat the bar, sometimes the bar eats you. That
Speaker 1: counts is a quotable movie. But they're on, They're on
Speaker 1: a ton of those anymore. I am. I am super
Speaker 1: on board with that notion. Uh. Duncan Creamer says, do
Speaker 1: you ever watch a movie in bits and spurts? Uh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are there are movies where I feel like I
Speaker 1: have seen almost all of the movie, but only in
Speaker 1: bits and spurts. And it's a it's a movie you know,
Speaker 1: always that I don't truly truly care about seeing. You know,
Speaker 1: for me, it's too it's the Goonies and a Christmas Story,
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why. It's because they get played
Speaker 1: on TV so much that over, especially at Christmas stories.
Speaker 1: You know, every Christmas they play a Christmas Story or
Speaker 1: maybe for years at least on TBS here around Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I guess around the world. They used to play Christmas
Speaker 1: Story for twenty four hours. They probably still do, but
Speaker 1: that's how I saw The Christmas Story, so you tune
Speaker 1: in and I'd see it in reverse order. I'm still
Speaker 1: not quite sure the chronology of events in that movie,
Speaker 1: and similar with the Goonies, although I did watch it
Speaker 1: in one sitting with my kid recently and I enjoyed
Speaker 1: it very much. But for a long time, I've never
Speaker 1: seen it from front to back. I just seen little
Speaker 1: snippets of it on TV. Yeah, and you know what,
Speaker 1: going back to the quotable lines thing, I wonder if
Speaker 1: there's anything too lines being more quotable when you're younger,
Speaker 1: Like I wonder if we were to ask a uh,
Speaker 1: twenty year old today about quotable lines for movies and
Speaker 1: they would be able to fire off ten of them
Speaker 1: from the past five years. I wonder if that's a
Speaker 1: young young man's game. I guess so, but I don't
Speaker 1: really think so, because it's just like you say, it's
Speaker 1: just not I don't Maybe it's maybe it's a different
Speaker 1: intent that goes into making the movies. Maybe that's more
Speaker 1: of an old fashioned kind of way of making movies.
Speaker 1: But it's like you think of Jurassic Park, even like
Speaker 1: you know, Clever Girl, and they do move in herts
Speaker 1: and even things like that, which seems kind of a
Speaker 1: knock you us that those those were pretty pretty quotable.
Speaker 1: You gotta wonder if the filmmakers like, I want this
Speaker 1: to be super quotable, yeah, or like when the screenwriter
Speaker 1: writes a line, they're like, oh, yeah, this, this is
Speaker 1: going to be one of those lines. Maybe you shouldn't
Speaker 1: try to write that way, though it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: you should now. It seems like that would be very forced.
Speaker 1: Kevin Harris says, you know how George Lucas went back
Speaker 1: and changed Star Wars movies, including new scenes. I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of what he did, but I do like
Speaker 1: the idea for less popular movies instead of remakes, I
Speaker 1: think studios should commission a different director to go back
Speaker 1: and fix movies that flopped. Well, Kevin, I do not
Speaker 1: agree at all with that statement. Uh. I see where
Speaker 1: you're going, and I respect your opinions, sir, but I
Speaker 1: don't like the idea of going back and trying to
Speaker 1: fix a movie. I don't see the point you release
Speaker 1: it out there in the world. That's your best effort.
Speaker 1: Just let it be. That's what I say. Let's do
Speaker 1: a couple of more here. Joe Smith says, what is
Speaker 1: the movie you enjoy that really isn't very good, but
Speaker 1: you enjoy it because you love the source material so much?
Speaker 1: For me, it was constantine as Joe Smith, you know
Speaker 1: what comes to mind is, uh the Watchmen movie. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that too, even though I the
Speaker 1: source material just is so much greater than the than
Speaker 1: the movie, and that i'd be but I think we
Speaker 1: were maybe on slightly different sides of that argument. You
Speaker 1: enjoyed that you enjoyed the movie quite a lot, right, Well, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that great. I kind of
Speaker 1: liked it, But I think I think it qualifies for
Speaker 1: his question because I loved the graphic novel so much.
Speaker 1: So you're saying you think it made made you give
Speaker 1: a move of the movie a past a little bit,
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a pass. I was so
Speaker 1: ready to love the Watchman movie, and I think they
Speaker 1: did a good job in a lot of ways. Um,
Speaker 1: but in the end, it just, I don't know, it's tough.
Speaker 1: They didn't have the giant squid attacking the City, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. You know it just got green light for
Speaker 1: a series on HBO. Yeah, they just shot that here
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I didn't know that. So you've been known
Speaker 1: about this for a minute and you were holding out
Speaker 1: on me, Chuck, I haven't known about this for mead
Speaker 1: friends that worked on it. I think the thing with
Speaker 1: me and Watchman is the book is so good that
Speaker 1: I think I was prepared for the movie to not
Speaker 1: be good, and it was actually a little better than
Speaker 1: I expected it to be, but still not as good
Speaker 1: as as as the book. Yeah, I hear you. It's
Speaker 1: such a good graphic novel, and I don't read graphic novels.
Speaker 1: That's one of the few ever. Guess that's it's the one.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're going to read one, that's definitely
Speaker 1: one of them. And all right, let's finish up with this.
Speaker 1: Tim van den Hook says Chuck on your other show,
Speaker 1: I suppose he's talking about stuff you should know. You
Speaker 1: mentioned you have a list, a club, a selection of
Speaker 1: directors who have never made a bad movie. Yeah, thecent Club.
Speaker 1: I've talked about it before, Uh, he said, I remember
Speaker 1: Sophia Coppola on the list. I think that I had
Speaker 1: made that state before I saw her most recent one,
Speaker 1: The Oh, it was the one. It was. It was
Speaker 1: a remake of the movie that had Clint Eastwood in
Speaker 1: it as the the the wounded Civil War soldier who
Speaker 1: was taken in by a by a house fuld of women. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it was okay, the Guild, Yeah, the Beguild. It
Speaker 1: was all right, but that definitely dinged her armor a
Speaker 1: little bit for me. Otherwise, I think Sophia Couple has
Speaker 1: made pretty much great movies. I think Wes Anderson is
Speaker 1: in that group. I talked about the Coen Brothers um
Speaker 1: with a slight ding on the Tom Hanks movie that
Speaker 1: I didn't think was great, The Lady Killers. Yeah, did
Speaker 1: you like that? I mean, it's fun if you watch
Speaker 1: it again and don't like try to hold it up
Speaker 1: to the Coen Brothers canon. It's a fine little movie. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: like their worst movie is probably that movie, and it's
Speaker 1: not that bad. They're there in that group. And of
Speaker 1: course Alexander pained to me absolutely club p t Anderson
Speaker 1: um and he says, how would you rate David Fincher?
Speaker 1: He said, aside from Alien three, which is probably beyond
Speaker 1: his control of his worst film is probably Panic Room,
Speaker 1: which is still pretty good. Uh, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put Fincher up there for sure. As I look
Speaker 1: through his repertoire, Gone Girl I thought was really good.
Speaker 1: Girl with the Dragon Tattoo was great, Social Network was great.
Speaker 1: Oh you know what, Benjamin Button I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: really like that movie that much. That was so he's
Speaker 1: not a hundred percent club. We talked about this the
Speaker 1: other day because that was one of those movies that
Speaker 1: got passed around to a bunch of different directors, I think,
Speaker 1: and uh, really yeah, I remember that segmented a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago about movies that were there. Would know
Speaker 1: that that just they were offered to people and then passed,
Speaker 1: you know. And I think Benjamin Button was one that,
Speaker 1: like almost all of the big directors on the list,
Speaker 1: had been offered at some point, and ultimately Fincher got it,
Speaker 1: which I thought was an odd choice considering that it
Speaker 1: wasn't really like anything else he'd done, and it also
Speaker 1: wasn't particularly good. Yeah, that's my only ding in his armor, though,
Speaker 1: because Zodiac is a masterpiece. To me. I did like
Speaker 1: Panic Room. I thought it was pretty good. Fight Club
Speaker 1: of course, is great. The game very very good movie. Yeah, people, people,
Speaker 1: I think we talk about this. People rag on Fight
Speaker 1: Club that it does doesn't hold up, and I I
Speaker 1: would beg to differ. I think it's uh. I think
Speaker 1: I think it was a movie for its time, and
Speaker 1: it certainly showcases a lot of toxic masculinity that's very
Speaker 1: much not in vogue right now. But I think that
Speaker 1: it knows if that's what it's doing. Um So I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, seven great movie. Alien three again not great,
Speaker 1: but our our our listener here gives that when a pass.
Speaker 1: And then boy, he did a lot of Paulo Abdual videos.
Speaker 1: Looking at his list, he's a lot of Madonna videos too.
Speaker 1: Yeah he I didn't realize this he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: he goes back to the eighties with Rick Springfield videos
Speaker 1: for Christ's sake. But yeah, venture overall, I give him
Speaker 1: And I enjoyed the mind Hunter TV series. Did not
Speaker 1: watch House of Cards? Do you watch that? No? I didn't.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I really liked mind Hunter, and
Speaker 1: I watched at least the first three episodes, but for
Speaker 1: some reason I did not continue. And that happens to
Speaker 1: me from time to time. Mind Hunter. And it's not
Speaker 1: a ding on the show necessarily. I think it's just
Speaker 1: like a testament to the clutter that is my mind
Speaker 1: and sometimes I just kind of like fall off of
Speaker 1: things placed, you know. But I really did like mind Hunter.
Speaker 1: I thought it was more understated than I was expecting
Speaker 1: it to be. It kind of was like a TV
Speaker 1: show version of Zodiac in some ways in terms of
Speaker 1: like the tone, and they totally set it up to
Speaker 1: where you think, like, oh man, this is a serial
Speaker 1: killer show and it is not as thrilling as that.
Speaker 1: It's a much more cerebral, uh show about this this dude,
Speaker 1: this this mind Hunter Detective. I like it. I can't
Speaker 1: wait for season to finish. Yeah, alright, we're gonna finish
Speaker 1: up with that, everybody, Thanks for listening your homework. For
Speaker 1: this week, we continue with the friends and family editions
Speaker 1: with my very good pal that you heard on the
Speaker 1: pre Oscar special. I think it was the pre with
Speaker 1: my friend Scott A. Polito. He is a director of
Speaker 1: photography and a camera operator and he also writes on
Speaker 1: the side. Scotty and I've written things together as as
Speaker 1: screenwriting partners, and he has an old old friend and
Speaker 1: one of my uh, one of my bestias, one of
Speaker 1: my brothers, and he chose Close Encounters of the Third
Speaker 1: Kind as his favorite film. He tossed around some really
Speaker 1: good ideas from et to Chinatown, which was nabbed by
Speaker 1: our mutual buddy from last week, Chad Crowley, so he
Speaker 1: went Close Encounters. I can't wait. I'm gonna watch it
Speaker 1: this weekend, and Scott and I are gonna sit down
Speaker 1: and talk next week, and uh, we're gonna keep doing
Speaker 1: some more friends and family, gonna at Noel and Emily
Speaker 1: in here and maybe even my brother if he agrees,
Speaker 1: and uh so look forward to those. We're gonna intersperse
Speaker 1: those along with the regular guests that we're going to book.
Speaker 1: And uh, I hope that's okay with you guys. I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of fun. So thanks for listening. And
Speaker 1: until next week, Noel, do you want to say good
Speaker 1: night man? I guess I'll do it. It's not really
Speaker 1: night time though, it's pretty early still, but good day,