Speaker 1: Hello, Dinar Sores, Who gross? I said, Sores. This is
Speaker 1: Chris Fairbanks. I have some shows coming up. August fourth,
Speaker 1: I'm in Portland at the ALBERTA. Rose Theater, and then
Speaker 1: August fifth, I'm at the Historic Crocodile in Seattle much
Speaker 1: like a young Soundgarden. Get your tickets at Chris Fairbanks
Speaker 1: dot com. Thank you and you're welcome.
Speaker 2: Are leaving? I you wanna way back home?
Speaker 3: Either way, we want to be there.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much baggage you.
Speaker 3: Claim and give us time and they turn and on engage.
Speaker 2: We want to send you off in star. We want
Speaker 2: to welcome you back home.
Speaker 1: Tell us all about it.
Speaker 2: We scared? Or was it fine?
Speaker 3: Melbourne?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: Do you need to ride? Do you need to ride?
Speaker 1: Do you need to ride? Do you need with Karen
Speaker 1: and Chris welcome to Do you need to ride?
Speaker 2: This is Chris Fairbanks and this is Karen Kilgaroff.
Speaker 1: Hi, Karen, how's your day been so far? Thus far?
Speaker 2: It's actually been action packed, really packed with action. Your
Speaker 2: day packed with action.
Speaker 3: And I will tell you a true story, but I
Speaker 3: just realized I forgot to bring them in here. I
Speaker 3: just before we got on this heard the Amazon man
Speaker 3: throwing my package against the door, which is how we
Speaker 3: do it, and I ran out to see what I got.
Speaker 3: Opened it up, and what do you know but the
Speaker 3: three ear cleaners that I ordered for you and me
Speaker 3: and cool up for livestock. Because we just talked about
Speaker 3: it on the last episode. Yes, arrived today.
Speaker 1: I want it and I'm excited, and I'll come and
Speaker 1: get it because there's many things I need to give you.
Speaker 2: Okay, great, I will tell you this though.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's just a little twisted up wire thing that
Speaker 3: looks like a que tip that it would be in
Speaker 3: the Museum of Modern Art, right, So it's like spun
Speaker 3: around wire that's Q tip shape.
Speaker 1: I think I've seen them. I've been excited by them.
Speaker 1: I've thought about how that would feel in my ear.
Speaker 1: I do know what it looks like. I'm very excited.
Speaker 3: Okay, because I now will tell you I tried it out.
Speaker 3: Uh huh, nothing happened. Oh no, what it was just
Speaker 3: like rubbing a piece of metal around in my ear
Speaker 3: canal and making me nervous that I was going too
Speaker 3: far inside of my air canal.
Speaker 1: And you did enter as you gently twist Yep, did
Speaker 1: you try a clockwise encounter? No?
Speaker 3: I just kind of like touched the walls of my
Speaker 3: outer ear canal and was like, maybe this is for
Speaker 3: people who have such disgustings.
Speaker 1: Yea, immediately it.
Speaker 2: Wax by doing that, But like, that's not if you've.
Speaker 1: Been in a coma or it needs to be taken
Speaker 1: care of. Yeah, maybe it's not a daily yeah, or
Speaker 1: it's a scam, darn't it.
Speaker 3: I mean what, I don't know, because I think we
Speaker 3: should distribute them to you to cool up and to
Speaker 3: all of our guests from here on out, and then
Speaker 3: we take a constant ear canal cleaning quiz.
Speaker 1: Yes, I do on every ear. Well, I just you know,
Speaker 1: I've been putting things in there, and by things, I
Speaker 1: mean mostly que tips, just because.
Speaker 2: Of the feeling when you have an itch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just an itch. I like to scratch and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not even itchy. But this is starting to
Speaker 1: get clinical and borderline gross. Like a lot of people
Speaker 1: maybe don't want to think about this, but I'm very
Speaker 1: excited to put that in my ear. And it's nice
Speaker 1: of you to order. Oh, thank you.
Speaker 3: Of course, well, I wanted that immediate satisfaction, but also
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing. Once we were done with
Speaker 3: that conversation, we can ask today's guest how she feels
Speaker 3: about this topic. But I realized, after we had talked
Speaker 3: about it for fifteen minutes last week, what if people
Speaker 3: who have like air pods or whatever shoved in their
Speaker 3: ears right now? This is bumming them out right right
Speaker 3: because we're having a like a wax conversation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they don't like us waxing. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I still want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff isn't for everybody. Okay, true, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the entire season of wax Talk.
Speaker 2: Wax talk in your face, me too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, I didn't do much that. I didn't have
Speaker 1: the best day. I wore shorts, so I never have
Speaker 1: a good day when I wear shorts. Oh oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know, are you? I don't. I look down and
Speaker 1: I see my legs and all confidence leaves my body
Speaker 1: and I it's like wearing shorts. They don't match my body,
Speaker 1: mainly because they're pale. That's because I always wear pants,
Speaker 1: but they're also just someone else's legs. They're very, very skinny.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people have seen my legs. I
Speaker 1: guarantee you haven't, Karen, right, I keep my legs up
Speaker 1: there personal and they're private.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: I agree, And today I tried to show off my
Speaker 1: gams and made me golf terribly and I think people
Speaker 1: were making comments.
Speaker 2: No, I thank you.
Speaker 3: I think you have a hard time publicly competing in
Speaker 3: sports and then suddenly it's about your legs and you're
Speaker 3: you're actually making up stories other people are telling because
Speaker 3: you feel so bad about golf.
Speaker 1: I think you're right. It's I didn't think you're going
Speaker 1: to get No, it's true. At first, I wanted to
Speaker 1: fight you on it, but I think you're right. It is.
Speaker 1: It's about sports and competition. Yep. It's not my nice legs.
Speaker 1: They've been with me forever. I can't believe I talked
Speaker 1: down to them. Yeah, they are below me, all right us.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean we don't have to go that.
Speaker 3: We don't have to get like that, dad, right right,
Speaker 3: you know what we're going to do. I'm going to
Speaker 3: give you this ear cleaner, and then we're going to
Speaker 3: send you to the tanning booth and we're going to
Speaker 3: turn your Summer twenty two shorts issue around.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the happiest dad in town.
Speaker 3: And who better to talk about tanning than our next guest.
Speaker 3: She's played clubs and colleges all over this country. Please
Speaker 3: welcome the legendary Irish raconteur nis May Higgins, the bronzed.
Speaker 2: Goddess all of the famously not a vampire looking Irish woman.
Speaker 2: I'm actually glowing on screen. I can say, Chris, you
Speaker 2: look so tan, and Karen, you look browner than me
Speaker 2: at the moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we just have different different shades of
Speaker 3: bas on right now. I feel like you went more
Speaker 3: with a with a pale or a pearlescent.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I just lost all my makeup. I
Speaker 2: went out dancing for the first time in maybe twenty years,
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, and then I like that thing happened.
Speaker 2: It used to happen when I was really young, where
Speaker 2: like I came back to my purse and like all
Speaker 2: my makeup was gone, Like my wallet was still there.
Speaker 1: But so I had to stole your makeup.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I just dropped it like it was one
Speaker 2: of those nights. Yeah, but I so then I had
Speaker 2: such a laugh doing like you know, best drug store
Speaker 2: makeup or you know, because I was like, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to spend a lot of money after I did
Speaker 2: something so stupid, So you're right. I think I might
Speaker 2: have got quite a glowing white, chalky four dollars foundation
Speaker 2: for right age. I went to this do you know
Speaker 2: do you have right aig?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes, and everything is like locked up. It's really depressing.
Speaker 2: And I had to like ring a bell for the
Speaker 2: guy to and it was like, honestly four dollars and
Speaker 2: it was still in a glass cage.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh god, what if it was locked
Speaker 3: up because that's actually the vampire makeup section. And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we can't just let anybody walk up and buy these shades.
Speaker 3: This is very intense. There's a paleness that's dangerous. Yeah,
Speaker 3: just buy it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, they're only open between nine and midnight. I
Speaker 2: think no mirrors anywhere, no garlic.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not obviously gonna do that thing where
Speaker 2: I stare at my face the whole time, but it
Speaker 2: is quite a shocking contrast. And I can't help feeling
Speaker 2: that it's because my makeup was, you know, under five dollars.
Speaker 3: There's some good ones though, that you can get these days.
Speaker 3: I feel like for under well maybe not under five,
Speaker 3: I think you had for a foundation. I think you
Speaker 3: might need to kick it up out of the wet
Speaker 3: and wild area and so like.
Speaker 2: A coupon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I asked. I asked the pharmacist or a pharmacy
Speaker 1: person that worked at Walgreens, because some of the items
Speaker 1: are locked up and they're not expensive. He just said,
Speaker 1: people steal make up. They're locked up based on how
Speaker 1: often they're stolen. Yeah, sometimes there's you know, a hair dryer.
Speaker 1: But yeah, people people steal makeup. I guess because it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to I get it almost once again.
Speaker 2: Wait, you didn't finish sentence. You just think, oh, I
Speaker 2: don't want to pay for.
Speaker 1: It, right, Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I kind of felt like, you know how,
Speaker 2: it would just be so embarrassing if I got, you know,
Speaker 2: arrested and deported for over like something from rimmel.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was happy to pay, but it was
Speaker 2: a bit like the joy of it is like standing
Speaker 2: there looking at everything and putting like tiny bits on
Speaker 2: your hand, and you know, but you can't do that.
Speaker 1: This is my struggle. You can't do that one.
Speaker 2: Nope, you just have to have to make a decision
Speaker 2: in front of like a bored man who works at
Speaker 2: a pharmacy. Yes, and oh yeah, because he's opened the things.
Speaker 3: So you have to basically really quickly assess yeah, just visually, yah.
Speaker 2: Which one is going to match your skin?
Speaker 1: So you can for bleak ivory.
Speaker 3: Yeah in door for two years, pale per lesson. That
Speaker 3: is the problem I have all the time because I
Speaker 3: think people always talk about like there needs to be
Speaker 3: more inclusion and makeup lines and better color choices for
Speaker 3: and then it's like, yes, especially down in the weird
Speaker 3: pale blue area, Like, yeah, I'm pale and blue but old.
Speaker 3: So there's a little bit of a weird tan, but
Speaker 3: it's a ready tan, not like an olive pretty tan.
Speaker 3: So someone helped me down in the below area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of under the iceberg an I know. Yes,
Speaker 2: the polar vortex of makeup.
Speaker 1: I used to wear. The new Trigina makes like a
Speaker 1: face cream that has Yeah, it's just a moisturizer, but
Speaker 1: I was getting it with tint not realized, and this
Speaker 1: is like in high school and I was just putting
Speaker 1: it on. I liked what it was doing. But I
Speaker 1: was basically wearing foundation. I really realized one day when
Speaker 1: it was all around my white shirt. There was just
Speaker 1: it was like I didn't realize until that moment. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been actively wearing foundation face. Yeah, yeah, no, wonder it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I like how this it's a moisture,
Speaker 1: it brings out the blood. No, I was just wearing makeup.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it smoothed you out artificially, Like, yeah, it is
Speaker 3: a great feeling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm I might have that feeling again. I'm
Speaker 1: not afraid to buy with tint. Oops did I get
Speaker 1: with tint again? And then I wink at myself in
Speaker 1: the mirror. That's you.
Speaker 3: Sure did, as he paints on a beauty mark at
Speaker 3: the corner.
Speaker 1: Of his eye. Oh, I just do one Cindy Crawford
Speaker 1: right here.
Speaker 3: And then a little highlighter on his cheek and boom,
Speaker 3: you're out the door.
Speaker 1: Yeah I do. I wear sunscreen now, just because Karen
Speaker 1: one time at your party, You're like, you need to
Speaker 1: wear it sunscreen. Like I was just going outside skateboarding
Speaker 1: and golfing and not doing anything, and I'm real good
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: Real He had turned a true brown berry colored. That
Speaker 2: was people.
Speaker 3: And also it was when he had grown his hair out,
Speaker 3: and his hair's crazy curly and dense, and so he
Speaker 3: had a very I just wandered in your back gate
Speaker 3: vibe where people are like, who's this guy, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's Chris fair Bangs. But you're you had been outside
Speaker 3: for so long that you really did look like you
Speaker 3: had been away for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one day it hit me, I was I did
Speaker 1: look like, hey, who's this guy that wandered in from
Speaker 1: the bushes. Yeah, but I wasn't doing it.
Speaker 2: I love that you did take care of each other
Speaker 2: that way and say like, you have to wear sunscreen
Speaker 2: because like it doesn't always occourage people, especially like men.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, I really never did. And Karen, I
Speaker 1: swear I have it everywhere. Now I'm like, yes, good, yeah, oh.
Speaker 2: But you know you don't need to put it everywhere, right,
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 3: I.
Speaker 1: Know, I mean I like to apply it in all
Speaker 1: the places.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I have it everywhere in the house, like reading glasses.
Speaker 1: They're on every little side table, a little stick that
Speaker 1: you can just stick under your eyes.
Speaker 3: But there was a I was starting to get worried
Speaker 3: because I think there's people and this is probably just
Speaker 3: my All of my family has all had different amounts
Speaker 3: of them cut off themselves because of melanoma.
Speaker 2: So you look, I look at stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, it's funny now and it's cute now
Speaker 3: because you're skateboarding and having a good time, and in
Speaker 3: four years they're going to cut the tip of your
Speaker 3: nose off and you're gonna be like, why didn't I
Speaker 3: just why didn't I just put some mess It's that easy,
Speaker 3: and like, don't mess around because then when then you
Speaker 3: have the bills and the.
Speaker 2: Ship to deal with. It's so scary. Emana was scary.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's horrible.
Speaker 2: It's horrible. I like your idea of putting it all
Speaker 2: over the house. I always intend to do that, Like
Speaker 2: you know how I feel like I read an interview
Speaker 2: with the news anchor or, like one of these very
Speaker 2: like type A organized women, and she and she said
Speaker 2: like I put it you know, when I open the door,
Speaker 2: I squat, and then like when when I wash my hands,
Speaker 2: I put on I cream Like she had all the
Speaker 2: she had like double tasks for every like I did
Speaker 2: such a bad job of even remembering what they were,
Speaker 2: but I just be like, Oh, she's so clever and
Speaker 2: that's why she's so you know, she's got it all.
Speaker 1: Yes, a squat.
Speaker 2: It was like when I open a door, I do
Speaker 2: two squats, like when I push my teeth, I put
Speaker 2: on ice cream. There was indicators everywhere in her home
Speaker 2: for like.
Speaker 1: What she needed to do.
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of what you do with a
Speaker 2: toddler a little bit, yeah, but in her world it
Speaker 2: just made her have like, you know, a high type
Speaker 2: but and like a public facing job, yeah yeah, which
Speaker 2: she was maximizing her time at each moment she could
Speaker 2: possibly just be having a break and just stand Like
Speaker 2: when I stand at the freezer and eat a Snicker's
Speaker 2: obsessive like compulsively. Then I also do three lunches.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, I remember something sad that happened to
Speaker 3: my childhood.
Speaker 2: With that fail, they really go hand in hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, candy bars and crying I knock out in one action.
Speaker 2: You can start one and then the other. Really just
Speaker 2: it just fills it in.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I do get so attracted to the idea though
Speaker 2: that you know that's possible for me, even though I
Speaker 2: don't think it's possible for me at this point, but
Speaker 2: like just the idea of it, it's so you know, oh,
Speaker 2: imagine how different i'd be.
Speaker 3: Well, there's some real uh you know you read I
Speaker 3: read articles all the time where it's like self care,
Speaker 3: it is important, you have to prioritize yourself. It's like, okay,
Speaker 3: sounds good, but like those are the people who It
Speaker 3: makes me think of a person I worked with one
Speaker 3: time who would stand in a room full of people
Speaker 3: while everyone else was like sitting in a chair trying
Speaker 3: to pitch, and they would do like basically leg lifts,
Speaker 3: just stand up and do leg lifts the whole time.
Speaker 3: And then it was I was just like, so, am
Speaker 3: I is that self care?
Speaker 2: Or am like?
Speaker 3: Am I doing self care by not doing that right now?
Speaker 3: Like there, it's just a I don't know, there's a
Speaker 3: different ways of kind of prioritizing yourself that maybe I
Speaker 3: don't always agree with.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, I was trying to talk about
Speaker 2: this and my friend the other day because it's almost
Speaker 2: like you know when people are like, well, okay, she
Speaker 2: is toxic, so I'm cutting her out. I don't have
Speaker 2: time for that, and it's like, well, actually, like she
Speaker 2: this is going on with her and like all of
Speaker 2: us are going to be really messed up from time time.
Speaker 2: And that's also what being a friend is like, Yes,
Speaker 2: being around when somebody is being annoying or sad or
Speaker 2: you know some combination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a.
Speaker 2: Little bit like that. Like so, yeah, there's kind of
Speaker 2: a militancy about like self cares very individualistic and it's
Speaker 2: like gets a bit frightening sometimes, right, but but it.
Speaker 3: Almost it makes me go, is that the way you're
Speaker 3: supposed to do it? And I just kind of wasn't
Speaker 3: really good.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one specifically, the exercising while having a conversation
Speaker 1: with someone. That's right, being on the phone while you're
Speaker 1: on your peloton. Why are you breathing so hard? It
Speaker 1: gets in the way of like communicating with someone if
Speaker 1: you're doing squad talking about ideas because I won't I
Speaker 1: won't even think of what someone's saying if they're doing
Speaker 1: leg lifts while I'm looking at them.
Speaker 3: Walking like treadmill desk or something. But then you know,
Speaker 3: the other side of it is like what was easier
Speaker 3: in the world than gaining weight during quarantine? Where it's
Speaker 3: like I think there are those people that they do that,
Speaker 3: and then they prevent those kinds of events because they're
Speaker 3: just like, fuck it, I'm just going to do the
Speaker 3: thing that's going to make me never gain weight or something. Maybe.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think I wonder like I remember before
Speaker 2: the pandemic and I went to like an audition and
Speaker 2: the cat I went to like shake the casting director's hand,
Speaker 2: and she was like, I don't do that.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: She like kind of like waved me away because of germs.
Speaker 2: I guess because she would have to shake so many
Speaker 2: people's hands every day. Yes, yeah, but like of course
Speaker 2: I was like, I put a curse on you.
Speaker 1: Now, I hate you so much, you know.
Speaker 2: I really was so like mad at her. But afterwards
Speaker 2: then I was thinking, oh, actually, like it's her job.
Speaker 1: She has to.
Speaker 2: She's probably gotten like a million colds just from being
Speaker 2: polite and you know, so so I think probably what
Speaker 2: she was doing was kind of self care, like self preservation,
Speaker 2: but in the context where you I was feeling vulnerable
Speaker 2: already because I was like coming in looking for a
Speaker 2: job or something that felt a bit, you know, And
Speaker 2: I did put a curse on her, and she has
Speaker 2: she has passed.
Speaker 1: Did you do it in the moment, In that moment
Speaker 1: or later on light some can Oh no.
Speaker 2: I actually when she refused to take my hand, I
Speaker 2: held her face in between both my hands and I
Speaker 2: muttered a curse into her mouth.
Speaker 3: She actually whispered some live bees right into her mouth.
Speaker 2: From that day on.
Speaker 1: I hate it when you think you're meeting a new
Speaker 1: person and really you're just inhaling their curse bees. So
Speaker 1: you don't like that, well, I always get tricked by it.
Speaker 1: I never see him coming, those those green mild bees.
Speaker 1: Not again.
Speaker 2: You just have a funny feeling you're tummy after you
Speaker 2: meet like another Irish woman she did to me too,
Speaker 2: not her, not this ship again.
Speaker 1: I'd be okay with that curse if it was just
Speaker 1: a tummy issue, just a little.
Speaker 2: Like someone curses you with like low level excitement.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yes, yeah, it's just fun, minor inconvenience.
Speaker 2: So are you auditioning for stuff like these?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: This is a while ago. Like I have in my
Speaker 2: life auditioned. You know, I probably count the times, like
Speaker 2: eight times maybe or something, but it never works out.
Speaker 2: You know, I think I'm just a comedian in that
Speaker 2: way where it's just like somebody has to just give say,
Speaker 2: oh I know her, like she'd be funny doing this
Speaker 2: right or else writed for me or something. But yeah, auditioning,
Speaker 2: can't I can't seem to do you know? Same?
Speaker 1: Well I always I go in for a lot of commercials,
Speaker 1: not much anymore, but yes in my life and they
Speaker 1: there is always that thing in the room where I
Speaker 1: don't understand why they would want to make you feel
Speaker 1: uncomfortable or have power over you, because it's it's not
Speaker 1: going to help any It's not going to help you
Speaker 1: do a good job. It's like, well, now things are
Speaker 1: just weird because you were kind of rude to me,
Speaker 1: and now I don't want to be here. So I
Speaker 1: guess that's part of the test. Though, can you do
Speaker 1: a good job after I was just mean to you?
Speaker 1: And action?
Speaker 2: But have you ever had it?
Speaker 3: I got called in for an audition one time. I
Speaker 3: think it was for Modern Family, and it was like
Speaker 3: I had been not performing for years and then I
Speaker 3: got this audition. I was like, why in God's name
Speaker 3: would they call me in for like a major ABC
Speaker 3: comedy you know whatever it was. And the casting director
Speaker 3: was so nice to me that it rattled me and
Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. I was just like, I don't
Speaker 3: even know where I am. This has never been my
Speaker 3: experience with auditioning. And suddenly it's like you're my friend
Speaker 3: or he was like, Karen, great to see you, and
Speaker 3: I was just like, I don't understand what is going on,
Speaker 3: don't None of these feelings are the feelings I had
Speaker 3: when I did this last and I have to go.
Speaker 2: I can't concentrate. Yeah, they need to be somehow neutral,
Speaker 2: which is yeah, yeah, kind of an impossible ask.
Speaker 1: Totally neutral, yeah, one way or the other. It's been
Speaker 1: one time I went in for a commercial audition and
Speaker 1: it was Wayne mcclammy, who's this filmmaker that I did
Speaker 1: stuff with in Austin. We moved here around the same time.
Speaker 1: Now he's a wildly successful commercial director, but he my
Speaker 1: mom had just passed, and he asked he just right
Speaker 1: when I walked in the room, He's like, Chris, I
Speaker 1: heard about your mom. How are you doing? And I
Speaker 1: hadn't talked much about it except to you. Karen and
Speaker 1: I started talking about it and I started did crying,
Speaker 1: which as it was happening, I'm like, Hey, if there's
Speaker 1: one place to cry on command, this is the place
Speaker 1: to do it, except it was for cat food or whatever. No,
Speaker 1: it was for some like Hamburger place. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was, but it was. I went through the thing,
Speaker 1: but I felt it was so embarrassing, and you're right,
Speaker 1: it was because he wasn't neutral. It's just like one
Speaker 1: way or the other. It was too personal. And then
Speaker 1: I was rattled.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he either should have said heard the news,
Speaker 2: couldn't care less?
Speaker 1: Yes, and that. Yeah that's good. Yeah, there's there's the
Speaker 1: classic environment for me to showcase my talents. I feel terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely didn't get that job, but you never do.
Speaker 1: It's always a gamble. But I did always appreciate that
Speaker 1: he asked it as a person. I was as a
Speaker 1: person that he asked.
Speaker 3: But I just have one note for know, and that is,
Speaker 3: can't you do it after just hold it for one moment?
Speaker 1: Well, in a way, I think he was doing that
Speaker 1: to as a because there was all the clients in
Speaker 1: there that we're sitting in, like the people that don't
Speaker 1: ever introduce themselves a table of people. Sometimes they're deciding
Speaker 1: who's good, and he was showing, hey, I know this
Speaker 1: guy without saying this is my friend. Pay attention. I
Speaker 1: really think that's why he was doing it. And what
Speaker 1: whether they're lighthearted topic to pick.
Speaker 2: I don't know about. Like sometimes you do want to,
Speaker 2: you know, without kind of saying I've known her for
Speaker 2: eight years. You do want to like let the group
Speaker 2: know that, like you're close, but saying like mentioning the
Speaker 2: worst thing that's ever happened and the most recent worst
Speaker 2: thing that's ever happened to.
Speaker 3: Most recent yes, yeah, or unless it was for like
Speaker 3: a pac Soul commercial or something, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: something that was appropriate to the material.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny now that I think more about it,
Speaker 1: because now I feel like he asked before I went
Speaker 1: in the room. Uh, and not in front of you, you
Speaker 1: know what, I think that's what happened. And I'm but
Speaker 1: the but the being said and tearing up has happened
Speaker 1: definitely in front of that group of people.
Speaker 3: I've teared up at auditions when no one asked me anything.
Speaker 3: I just fucking hate it so much and find it
Speaker 3: to be absolutely humiliating and torturous to have to be
Speaker 3: kind of like be like, you know, bowing to these
Speaker 3: people where I'm just like, what have you ever done?
Speaker 3: It's so bad for my personality, and yet I did
Speaker 3: it for years.
Speaker 1: That's funny. It's yeah, it's no testament to my training
Speaker 1: at all. But once I moved to Los Angeles, I
Speaker 1: learned to cry on command no matter where I was
Speaker 1: traffic while doing squats.
Speaker 2: May have.
Speaker 3: Can I just tell you that the last movie I
Speaker 3: saw in the theaters before Quarantine was extraordinary and I
Speaker 3: we went and bought tickets because you guys were supposed
Speaker 3: to be there on a panel.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 3: And then so we got there and they're like, we
Speaker 3: we thought the whole thing was going to be closed
Speaker 3: or canceled or whatever, and they were just like, nope,
Speaker 3: no panel, but you can still watch the movie around.
Speaker 2: Oh that's okay. Oh I didn't realize that, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was course right at that time. And you know
Speaker 2: that means lack, because I know you auditioned for that movie.
Speaker 3: You know, you and I always get called in for
Speaker 3: the same stuff. Yeah, they said she just was weeping
Speaker 3: and weeping. We couldn't make out the words Chris mom,
Speaker 3: and then just used tricks to try an audition.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: But it was so it was so thrilling to see
Speaker 3: you in a movie that movie is insane, It's hilarious.
Speaker 3: Will foretas in it with you?
Speaker 2: Who else is in it? Ikat? Sorry, well Claudio Darty
Speaker 2: is in it and Barry Ward. It plays like my
Speaker 2: kind of boyfriend and it's mainly the four of us.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm glad you've enjoyed it. I mean it
Speaker 2: was so fun. It's like a comedy horror Chris that
Speaker 2: like my friends wrote it and put me in it,
Speaker 2: which is again the way the only way I think
Speaker 2: it works for me. But it was great crack and
Speaker 2: it was also like we it did come out just
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, but only in the festivals, so like
Speaker 2: we went around to all the festivals and that was cool.
Speaker 2: And there's like such a little community of like horror
Speaker 2: comedy people, like all really all over the world, because
Speaker 2: I went to different places and so did the directors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I consider myself part of that community as far
Speaker 1: as an interest.
Speaker 2: Oh well, I don't know if you were, I'll check
Speaker 2: with them.
Speaker 3: Oh, no, one's really seen you.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on the outside. I'm part of the
Speaker 1: but I'm watching in voyeuristically.
Speaker 3: That is comedy horror actually, to think about Chrispy in
Speaker 3: the Window as you guys are like a panel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, perfect.
Speaker 1: How do how do I watch Extraordinary right now?
Speaker 2: I guess like you can just get it on streaming.
Speaker 2: A lot of people get in canopy, you know, it's
Speaker 2: like the free library what you stream for library cards.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good way to watch us. That's great canopy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to look into this after. Instead of ask both the.
Speaker 2: Movies, just use your library cards. That's my favorite way
Speaker 2: of doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I need you mean the library card that
Speaker 1: I have and utilized weekly. I haven't had a library
Speaker 1: card since I was like twelve, and I really embarrassed.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm embarrassed.
Speaker 2: You can get audio books, and you can just get
Speaker 2: normal books, and you can get so many movies, and
Speaker 2: if you live in probably not Los Angeles, but you
Speaker 2: can get like ice skates if you live in you know, Minnesota, right,
Speaker 2: or you get everything in the library real ice skates.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I can't remember what it was, but someone not
Speaker 1: an overhead projector. It was something that has nothing.
Speaker 2: To do to get a projector. I bet you could
Speaker 2: get a projector. Libraries, yeah, presents. The librarians are just
Speaker 2: like the coolest witches, you know, very subversive, like really
Speaker 2: holding it down I think in America at the moment. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so anyway you could you could watch the movie through
Speaker 2: your library, or you get it obviously on Amazon, which
Speaker 2: is the other stalworth of our democracy.
Speaker 1: It's okay, I mean that is the most convenient, but uh,
Speaker 1: just so I can support because my sister also is
Speaker 1: a cool library witch. Oh lovely, she's a librarian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, that's so cute.
Speaker 2: Where is her?
Speaker 1: Are you allowed to say it's in a school?
Speaker 2: I just don't really like when I talk about them.
Speaker 1: No, it's I said that Lisa likes it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's a school librarian in Spokane, Washington.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's very witchy, our Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 1: It is, especially when it rains, very spooky.
Speaker 2: And she wears her hat.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that's pointing and water resistance.
Speaker 3: But wait to go back to you guys got to
Speaker 3: go to festivals, so I was picturing my experience was
Speaker 3: your experience.
Speaker 2: With that movie.
Speaker 3: But you guys actually did get to do all the
Speaker 3: fun stuff before Quarantine started.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, we were well, so we did the
Speaker 2: festivals and then it was got a general release, which
Speaker 2: we were so excited about because it's like a small
Speaker 2: Irish movie really, you know, well will Fort isn't it,
Speaker 2: So that makes it much you know, better and bigger
Speaker 2: and stuff. But yeah, so we were it was just
Speaker 2: coming out in America, like it started in March twenty
Speaker 2: so yeah, a lot of I guess in New York.
Speaker 2: I did get to do a panel here, but then
Speaker 2: that was like the last time I saw like tons
Speaker 2: of my friends, and you know, that was kind of
Speaker 2: the last social outing. It was the last movie a
Speaker 2: lot of people saw. And then the theater is obviously
Speaker 2: shut down quite soon after that, and not because of
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 3: The movie's fine, Well they can't approve that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 3: no thing.
Speaker 2: And then you know, if you believe science whatever, yeah everything.
Speaker 2: Me all just called me out.
Speaker 1: There she is.
Speaker 2: So it was funny to be because like then people
Speaker 2: were seeing it on airplanes and like, we're very surprised
Speaker 2: to see me popping up in it. And yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just such a funny little journey that that film has had. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's great. That's so thank you for going to see it.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that I didn't get to see you then.
Speaker 2: But also, can you imagine if you watched it and
Speaker 2: you hate it, and then like the lights came up
Speaker 2: and you were like.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, hey, what's up. I was just
Speaker 3: I'm just checking my friends. I was I needed some popcorn.
Speaker 3: I need to get some half empty popcorn. But so
Speaker 3: I was just picking them up off the ground and
Speaker 3: needing them.
Speaker 2: Great to see you though, really nice person.
Speaker 3: You No, what I My plan was is that you
Speaker 3: guys were going to be all up on the panel
Speaker 3: and then I would start asking a series of really
Speaker 3: irritating self referential questions they always do on those panels.
Speaker 3: It's I love it so much where people are like hey.
Speaker 3: I also went to see Steve Coogan when his movie
Speaker 3: I think it's called Greed came out, and I was
Speaker 3: so excited to see Steve Coogan at the arc Light,
Speaker 3: you know, just sitting there and every person that raised
Speaker 3: their hand and the Q and A was just somehow
Speaker 3: referencing their career and their thing.
Speaker 1: And there I was just like, I noticed, yes, yep,
Speaker 1: when I was first a D on A I noticed,
Speaker 1: I'm just setting up the reason I'm asking this question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know it comes from a real place. Anyway,
Speaker 1: first a D that was me.
Speaker 2: I just went I was in La for the first
Speaker 2: time in you know, years, because for the l a
Speaker 2: book festival a few weeks ago, and it was it's
Speaker 2: obviously like a funny place to have a book festival,
Speaker 2: and like the I went to this good point. I
Speaker 2: went to this one panel and it was like all
Speaker 2: these women basically sort of historians, and they had each
Speaker 2: each of them had written like these really intense books
Speaker 2: that were about different cities and countries. So it's kind
Speaker 2: of like a geography history panel with like these incredible professors.
Speaker 2: Like one woman wrote a book about Cuban America and another
Speaker 2: woman wrote about like lost cities like Pompeii. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they each you know, there was such limited time for
Speaker 2: them to talk and they were fascinating and I was
Speaker 2: I must to read all those books. And then it
Speaker 2: was like the Q and A and this one lady
Speaker 2: like bounded up to the front. She was like, listen,
Speaker 2: I work in Hollywood. She said those words, I work
Speaker 2: in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: I listen.
Speaker 2: I would buy all three of those ips. These are
Speaker 2: awesome stories. And it's like, what are you talk shut
Speaker 2: the You're gonna buy the History of Cuba in America
Speaker 2: as an IP and you're gonna make why are you
Speaker 2: gonna make it? And then you're also gonna buy like
Speaker 2: you know, the story of Ruins of Pompeii, Like what
Speaker 2: are you talking about? And then and that was it.
Speaker 2: She only she just wanted to say that. And then
Speaker 2: there's like three incredible academics are just like thank you.
Speaker 2: It was like it was like a bird maazing, like
Speaker 2: a crab. It was like these different species like interacting
Speaker 2: and you know, not really harming each other, but also
Speaker 2: like they shouldn't be in the same It just feels.
Speaker 3: Like narcissists love a festival, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like they somehow it's like maybe because they truly
Speaker 3: have genuine interest. But I am always amazed at the
Speaker 3: kind of people who go because I was raised by
Speaker 3: people who literally like won't let you sing Happy Birthday
Speaker 3: in public, Like like my sister almost strangled me one
Speaker 3: time where I'm like, look a cake is coming, and she's.
Speaker 2: Like, like, it's so the opposite.
Speaker 3: Then there's a terrible song, it takes too long and
Speaker 3: everyone stares at you.
Speaker 2: The thing in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: Where all the people that live here are so good
Speaker 3: at inserting themselves where they don't belong.
Speaker 2: It's the reason they live here, and so they're.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, yeah, Pompeii, this this applies to me.
Speaker 2: I'm going to go explain to everybody how it's amazing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was bizarre and like again, like she wasn't really
Speaker 2: hurting anyone, but I was like, why did you have
Speaker 2: to do that? And she was delighted. She's swinging her ponytail.
Speaker 2: Going back to her, She's just like, I did really
Speaker 2: well there, Like she hurt me. You felt you had
Speaker 2: a psychic like a wind at like eleven am a
Speaker 2: few saturdays ago. Well that was her some academics being
Speaker 2: talked down to by first siting.
Speaker 3: By someone who works in Hollywood, like how do you
Speaker 3: work in Hollywood to say.
Speaker 1: It like that? So you're employed and you exist in
Speaker 1: the place we are right now, like.
Speaker 3: The town hall or what are you talking about, specifically
Speaker 3: city council.
Speaker 1: Down at the docks. Yeah, it is a weird way.
Speaker 1: You can almost see what she's trying to Like she
Speaker 1: was saying, I would.
Speaker 2: Well, I think it's the highest compliment she could imagine.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, totally, I give all these the green
Speaker 1: light for production. She's wearing a beret and Cuba straight
Speaker 1: to Siri.
Speaker 3: The Cuba Pompeii connection next on the net Geo channel.
Speaker 2: What that actually sounds good?
Speaker 3: Wait, No, were you at that book festival because you
Speaker 3: have written a book.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was there for I was doing a panel
Speaker 2: that was about like writing funny in strange times or
Speaker 2: or something like that. It was kind of about you know,
Speaker 2: being a I was going to say, Harris being a heeler. Yeah,
Speaker 2: here she comes, mother Higgins, take your herbs, like yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's what I was there. And then I was
Speaker 2: on It was actually cool because I was on with
Speaker 2: an illustrator, Maria Tatia, who's like does all these sort
Speaker 2: of like grumpy, chubby women who you know, just are
Speaker 2: like unimpressed about things. And so yeah, I was on
Speaker 2: a fun panel, but I do I actually really like
Speaker 2: listening to writers talking, so I really wanted to be
Speaker 2: there just to see other panels. And it was really good. Actually,
Speaker 2: it was just it was like a strange location for it.
Speaker 2: And there was that element of like all the stalls
Speaker 2: because I like go to a lot of book festivals
Speaker 2: and book events in La. The stalls were like, you know,
Speaker 2: usually it's like okay, so here's the kind of you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like if you want to read like
Speaker 2: Marcuist books or whatever. This is a kind of a
Speaker 2: lefty publishing house that has a stand outside. But this
Speaker 2: it was like different candles inspired by romance novels. It's
Speaker 2: like the Outlander, like you know, forest Fire, Like it
Speaker 2: was just really strange selection of like they just like
Speaker 2: come outifind it in ways I hadn't seen before. It
Speaker 2: was actly kind of impressive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's always going to be merch in an La
Speaker 3: festival of any kind. There's always going to be and
Speaker 3: it's like you're out try your Outlander gatorade zero today.
Speaker 2: And the other kind of heartbreaking thing was they put
Speaker 2: the poets like outdoors and like, I know, I think
Speaker 2: I understand why they did that because it was, you know,
Speaker 2: make it accessible and like have everyone passing by just
Speaker 2: like get pulled in by the words. But like in theory,
Speaker 2: that's it, but but in practice there was just like
Speaker 2: you know, shy people like wincing in the sun, just
Speaker 2: trying to get their their words out, and you know,
Speaker 2: and the nature poetry, you know, these very kind of
Speaker 2: private emotions that they've managed to you know, So that
Speaker 2: made me.
Speaker 1: That made me, you know, laugh.
Speaker 2: Cry in the background.
Speaker 3: It's just just honking, just like a bunch of honking people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, helicopters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, wow outside. That's actually the worst idea.
Speaker 1: Someone thinks of poems and they you know, because poems
Speaker 1: are always about trees and flowers and ship. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's put them on the trees and flowers and ship.
Speaker 3: Or they're they're confusing poets with like slam poets or
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, like something the last time
Speaker 3: they hear something in a movie where they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: poets they love to talk into microphones.
Speaker 2: They're going to want to like battle outdoors.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and they're going to talk like this right.
Speaker 2: The hope caps were missing?
Speaker 1: And did you need something? Pause?
Speaker 3: Do you want to talk about your book? Do you
Speaker 3: want to tell us specifically about your book?
Speaker 2: Oh, my romance novel, my erotica. It's like so immature
Speaker 2: that I even think that's like a funny thing to say.
Speaker 2: Lots of people would just be like, yeah, tell us
Speaker 2: about your erotica, and I'd be like, that is.
Speaker 1: You don't understand.
Speaker 2: I think if someone says like lover or something and
Speaker 2: I'm just dying.
Speaker 3: It would really go against the grain of your the
Speaker 3: personality at least as I know you, because I think
Speaker 3: we've talked about this before. But May've is the person
Speaker 3: who I've met you probably two or three times. But
Speaker 3: the first time I met you, I was like, I
Speaker 3: absolutely know her and like you were just immediately just
Speaker 3: like I know her very well. So anytime people will
Speaker 3: be like may have Higgins, I'm like, yes, I know,
Speaker 3: she's a very good friend of mine. Yeah, because you
Speaker 3: just have that, you have a quality and a sensibility
Speaker 3: about you that is very, very very familiar to me.
Speaker 3: That absolutely I know is anti erotica.
Speaker 2: If you had to describe me in one word, anti erotic.
Speaker 1: The word if someone describes introduces someone as their lover,
Speaker 1: I would giggle forever. Good.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, friends, lovers welcome.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, that's the person that when they enter a
Speaker 1: room they come and kiss you on the cheek. I'll
Speaker 1: laugh at that too. But people just do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, they're just very comfortable with, you know,
Speaker 2: different aspects of themselves.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, something I've.
Speaker 2: Got No, you know, like I write more than like
Speaker 2: I met to Karen doing stand up. I remember that
Speaker 2: very well as well, and I remember.
Speaker 1: Being like, oh, one of the.
Speaker 2: Goodness. It's always such a relief. But I probably do
Speaker 2: more writing now like then.
Speaker 1: I mean I do.
Speaker 2: I still do stand up every week, but it's like
Speaker 2: just hosting a show that's really fun and easy, like
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to you know, get five, get up there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so I mainly do writing.
Speaker 3: Right well, every when I would see the stuff that
Speaker 3: you would post. Are you not on Twitter anymore?
Speaker 2: Did you get off? I left Twitter? Actually yeah, Oh.
Speaker 3: I feel proud of you, but I it was I
Speaker 3: might go back. You can always come back. But I
Speaker 3: tried to tag you in something because you were on
Speaker 3: that first episode of Adulting, which is so hilarious.
Speaker 1: I mean, I really.
Speaker 2: Feel Michelle Bueaux and Jordan they needed me there because
Speaker 2: they really did, do you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 2: they're fine, but there's something I'm something of a mentor
Speaker 2: and they just raise their game and can feel the
Speaker 2: energy shift when I appear. You know, yes, you know
Speaker 2: if it really was, and it was, you leveled everything up.
Speaker 1: Mother Higgins came in.
Speaker 2: Mother Higgins healing the adult and podcast and continuing to
Speaker 2: heal with eroticism and overt sectionality.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, but.
Speaker 2: Wait, are you going to tell us about your book?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, So, I mean that's all there is, really Like,
Speaker 2: it's it's it's my second collection of essays, and there
Speaker 2: are nine essays in the book and they're about all
Speaker 2: different things and they come from writing that I've done
Speaker 2: in the New York Times and in The Guardian. So
Speaker 2: often i'd write a piece about, you know, say a
Speaker 2: border security conference that I went to and reported on,
Speaker 2: and then i'd go off and basically think about it
Speaker 2: and study, study off on, you know, all these different
Speaker 2: aspects of different things that I saw while I was
Speaker 2: at the conference, and then come back with an essay, which, like,
Speaker 2: I really like essays because they're it's kind of like
Speaker 2: you're answering this question that's been bugging you and you
Speaker 2: can do it in your own time. And traditionally they've
Speaker 2: been like a lot of women write essays too. I
Speaker 2: think it's kind of gendered because I think it's a
Speaker 2: kind of a I don't know, but it's sort of
Speaker 2: like a non threatening like it's like memoir academic academia,
Speaker 2: but you're not like hammering like I know this, I
Speaker 2: don't know. It's it's an interesting forum for me so
Speaker 2: that's that's my book, and it came out earlier. It
Speaker 2: came out earlier this year, and I was delighted with it.
Speaker 2: It's called Tell Everyone on the Train that I Love them,
Speaker 2: and Karen has offered to send people copies and she
Speaker 2: will sign them, Yeah, by herself. I will signed it
Speaker 2: as me Biggins, misspelling my name the whole time.
Speaker 1: That's the best. I love that title. It's so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really Fay paint such a picture already. I'll read that.
Speaker 1: I am someone that is embarrassed about how little I read,
Speaker 1: but I will read.
Speaker 2: You think because you're because you're it's just a librarian
Speaker 2: that you think I don't need. She does all the reading.
Speaker 1: I do think that. And also I feel that way
Speaker 1: about writing because she is a writer. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not the writer. My my sister is the writer.
Speaker 1: I can't also do that.
Speaker 2: It's not allowed.
Speaker 1: It isn't we can't double up. So how do you so?
Speaker 1: How do you?
Speaker 2: How do you collect your jokes? They're just all in
Speaker 2: the mental file. You have to put them.
Speaker 1: Somewhere face after them, like the with a butterfly net.
Speaker 3: Really really tan and sunburn at the same time on
Speaker 3: his face in the Butterfly Net.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want. I love well. I just like if
Speaker 1: someone backs me into a corner and said, what's the
Speaker 1: last thing you read? I'm not lying when I say
Speaker 1: it it's David Sedaris or something that is essays I
Speaker 1: do like I have a problem with sitting down and
Speaker 1: I'm I realize suddenly that the last three pages I've
Speaker 1: been thinking about things I need to do. I'm not
Speaker 1: even paying attention. I'm just reading the words. I have
Speaker 1: a bit of attention problem. I have no time.
Speaker 3: That's yeah, your eyes are going over the words, but
Speaker 3: you are absolutely like arguing I'm someone in your head.
Speaker 2: I do it constantly.
Speaker 1: I'm glad every time I described that someone relates to
Speaker 1: it and I realize it's not just me, and I'm
Speaker 1: not dumb because it haunted me, like and you know
Speaker 1: when you're in school and you realize, like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I have not retained the last three pages. There is
Speaker 1: something wrong with me, my comprehension. I always thought I
Speaker 1: had my own special problem, but yeah, thank.
Speaker 2: You, No, I think it's really and it's also all
Speaker 2: of our attention spans. But what's really useful? Because something
Speaker 2: else that I did. I had started it before the pandemic,
Speaker 2: but I was really lucky I did because then I
Speaker 2: got to fully do it, which was a master's degree.
Speaker 2: And I didn't go to normal college or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So I went back later and did a master's degree.
Speaker 2: And I was really worried about that, Chris, because I
Speaker 2: do the same. I read and I say, I can
Speaker 2: tell you fully I have read the book. I cannot
Speaker 2: remember anything that happened in it. So I was like,
Speaker 2: what am I going to do? This is college, like
Speaker 2: this is like I have to know. But so what
Speaker 2: I would say is I would set a timer on
Speaker 2: my phone just for half an hour, for thirty minutes,
Speaker 2: and then I would make notes as I read, and
Speaker 2: that kept me in the in the reading, and you
Speaker 2: just get faster and better at it. And now I
Speaker 2: do it when I'm reading even novels or like reading
Speaker 2: for fun or anything. I just make little notes as
Speaker 2: I go.
Speaker 1: That's great because then also I would be considering it
Speaker 1: a writing exercise for myself, which is something I also
Speaker 1: looms over me that I'm not doing enough of as
Speaker 1: far as.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's only happening. I mean, this is like
Speaker 2: my favorite thing just like giving advice that nobody asked for. No,
Speaker 2: I can hear that, like you sound like kind of
Speaker 2: worried that like you, I.
Speaker 1: Am, Yeah you are. This is the right place for
Speaker 1: the advice.
Speaker 2: So I would do that. And it really just your
Speaker 2: brain just gets a little bit stronger every time. And
Speaker 2: then oh, like when I say set your timer, your
Speaker 2: timer is so that you don't look at your phone.
Speaker 2: Obviously you don't do anything else for those you don't.
Speaker 1: Like you said set your timer, I do assume oven.
Speaker 1: I mean I really it's right, and it's not a
Speaker 1: big apartment.
Speaker 2: So you pop into the oven. Okay, you pop into
Speaker 2: the oven, your whole body in the oven. You get
Speaker 2: that book in there, and if you feel too warm, no,
Speaker 2: you must finish your reading.
Speaker 1: And once you smell the onions crisping, I'm actually cooking
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 2: One hand out, sat stuff on the stone.
Speaker 1: Sat reading, squatting. I'm gonna quit. I'm gonna quit mentioning
Speaker 1: the squats. That's the fourth time I've tried to call
Speaker 1: back the squats.
Speaker 2: You know what, love it, Keep trying. It's going to hit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it will look at number six, just like there'd be
Speaker 2: like a long pause at the end of this podcast
Speaker 2: and then just you'd be like, I'm squat.
Speaker 1: Oh they're just might be lucky number six.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, So I mean I just I also like,
Speaker 2: did this thing. This is unproven, but that's a proven thing. Okay,
Speaker 2: that helps you if you find yourself reading and not
Speaker 2: taking anything in, try that. But then the unproven thing
Speaker 2: is like, because I'm you know, like all of us
Speaker 2: just so addicted to my phone blah blah blah. So
Speaker 2: like I went into Apple and I and I it
Speaker 2: was time to swap my phone. Yeah, and I said
Speaker 2: to the guy, like, what is the least like attractive phone,
Speaker 2: Like what's going to make me not look at my
Speaker 2: phone or whatever?
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh, you mean like hostile design?
Speaker 1: And I was like sure, hostile design, yes, wow.
Speaker 2: And so I got like a smaller, kind of a
Speaker 2: crappier iPhone and then I had before and it's just
Speaker 2: like not as attractive to look at, you know, because
Speaker 2: it's just like a bit smaller and grayer or something.
Speaker 2: And they do that a purpose, They design it that
Speaker 2: way on purpose. Yeah, I mean I had heard that,
Speaker 2: and then like he seemed to confirm that, but he
Speaker 2: also made a joke about being like my boss here
Speaker 2: you say and me say that. I mean, I'm now
Speaker 2: saying it on a podcast, but like you know, he
Speaker 2: works at the Flatbush Avenue store.
Speaker 1: And Whendy he said hostile design is is that the
Speaker 1: phrase he used? And is that a phrase that pertains
Speaker 1: to that? He said?
Speaker 2: I think he said hostile design? Yeah, I think he did,
Speaker 2: because then I remember then I was like swapping all
Speaker 2: my data from one phone to the new, like hostile
Speaker 2: little one, and I was like so pleased with myself.
Speaker 2: And then some other Apple employee I guess, like he
Speaker 2: was gone, and then she came over and I said
Speaker 2: it to her. I was like, look, I'm going to
Speaker 2: be like less addicted. And she was so pissed off
Speaker 2: and she was like what do you mean And I
Speaker 2: was like, oh, because it's like your colleague said, you know,
Speaker 2: this phone is not going to be as like seductive
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to use my phone less and she
Speaker 2: was like, oh, but that's just your mind and I
Speaker 2: was like no. I was like, these phones are like
Speaker 2: absolute designers that we're quite powerless actually, like they're allure
Speaker 2: and like she was take she was like having none
Speaker 2: of it like she was very much bought it too, like, no,
Speaker 2: it's like on the individual to like choose how they
Speaker 2: spend their time. And I was like, darling, Darling.
Speaker 1: I'm a bigger fan of your colleague than you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And then I started thinking, did he even work here?
Speaker 3: If you were just talking about like a red shirt
Speaker 3: or whatever?
Speaker 2: Gave me his old flip phone. There's some hostile design, ma'am.
Speaker 1: It's called a sidekick.
Speaker 2: So wait, so like you two used to actually collect
Speaker 2: people from the airport, right, Yes? I heard that, yeah,
Speaker 2: and I just thought that was still of the idea.
Speaker 2: But also I don't finally has said it before, but Karen,
Speaker 2: you surely know about like a ride, right, like, oh
Speaker 2: yes in Ireland?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, and throwing the leg over. I knew you'd
Speaker 3: bring this back to eroticism. It's my nature, you know.
Speaker 3: Basically in Ireland, our podcast is do you need to
Speaker 3: get laid?
Speaker 2: Essentially?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 2: And I was only reminded because I said to my
Speaker 2: sister that I was doing it later and that, and
Speaker 2: she was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a bit much, is it.
Speaker 2: It's no like they actually said, they actually mean it.
Speaker 2: It's because they used to actually collect comics because we're
Speaker 2: always on the road.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: Yes, she was very skeptical, but I was like, no, genuinely, like, it's.
Speaker 1: Not an ext question. Love it.
Speaker 2: I don't need to ride.
Speaker 3: I love that she's bummed out or just like okay,
Speaker 3: take it.
Speaker 2: She's like very happy with my choice.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's like she likes comedy and everything, but sometimes she
Speaker 2: is a bit like, oh my goodness, I have to babe,
Speaker 2: does it always have to be about the sex and
Speaker 2: then getting a ride all the time? And it's actually
Speaker 2: just like the most sweetest concept ever. It is. Really.
Speaker 3: It was based on, well, Chris and I knew we
Speaker 3: wanted to do a podcast together, and then my aunt
Speaker 3: Kathleen used to live right by San Francisco Airport. She
Speaker 3: lived in Millbray, which is just the town like right
Speaker 3: across from it. So anytime in our big family, if
Speaker 3: anyone had to go to the airport or was coming
Speaker 3: home from somewhere, Aunt Kathleen would pick you up because
Speaker 3: she hated the idea that anyone would just be there
Speaker 3: and then have to get on an airport or whatever.
Speaker 3: And so it was that idea of like what if
Speaker 3: comics had a little like kind aunt energy in their
Speaker 3: life instead of just the usual, like the when I
Speaker 3: used to go on the road and I did it
Speaker 3: for a very short amount of time, it was such
Speaker 3: it was so such a bummer and so hard and
Speaker 3: so lonely and weird. And then you'd come home and
Speaker 3: get on the airport shuttle and the with their thirty
Speaker 3: strangers and it would take you five hours to get home.
Speaker 3: So that idea of like, oh, we could actually be
Speaker 3: picking people up at the end of a week of
Speaker 3: headlining somewhere and like for the good and the bad.
Speaker 3: Now they're just home and they're getting a ride home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's the loveliest. It's the loveliest. And also
Speaker 2: because like I don't know how common, but I because
Speaker 2: I only learned how to drive actually last year. I
Speaker 2: was really late learning how to drive, so like always
Speaker 2: getting a ride for me from the airport or from
Speaker 2: anywhere else, especially with having no family here, it's almost
Speaker 2: like takes on like a magical quality.
Speaker 1: Yes, how is this possible?
Speaker 2: But actually, like transport can be fun, you know, like
Speaker 2: it's actually incredible. But I did get my license, but
Speaker 2: I haven't really driven here yet, but I somehow passed.
Speaker 1: I can't believe.
Speaker 2: You know what the average time for a driving test
Speaker 2: is in America?
Speaker 3: No, do you want to get like the length of
Speaker 3: time you drive to take the average length?
Speaker 2: Yeah, the AVERD length of the test. Yeah, I would
Speaker 2: guess fifteen minutes. Eight eight yeah, eight, yeah, I mean walking.
Speaker 2: They tell about you and it was like they absolutely.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it because you're driving in stuct like
Speaker 2: brings you to the test center. And then even he
Speaker 2: was like, are you you passed? I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I swear, and I had to like show them the
Speaker 2: page and everything. He was like, oh, okay, but he
Speaker 2: was worried.
Speaker 1: Wow, I did so f eight minutes.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: If I think back to doing that test in high school,
Speaker 1: I sweat. You had to drive downtown and parallel park
Speaker 1: and traffic. It was the I remember being drenched in sweat.
Speaker 1: It was so scary and it lasted all damn day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did feel really long.
Speaker 3: And I remember I changed lanes in the middle of
Speaker 3: an intersection when he was like, oh, get into the
Speaker 3: right hand lane, and I did it going through an intersection.
Speaker 3: I almost failed my test.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I think failing you if you got a seventy you failed.
Speaker 3: I think I got a seventy one. So I just
Speaker 3: did it by the skin of my teeth and never
Speaker 3: changed lanes in the middle of an intersection since or
Speaker 3: on a bridge that's also illegal. Oh you see, that's
Speaker 3: really good to know that kind of thing. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: if you can't do it all the time, but it is,
Speaker 3: you're not supposed to.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's different because like here, I just felt like
Speaker 2: you can. Like New York is just so tricky to
Speaker 2: everything is like so tight and there's pedestrians everywhere and
Speaker 2: you have to go really slowly. So that's a blessing, yes,
Speaker 2: I think, But like they don't did. I don't remember
Speaker 2: them making me Parlot Park or anything, but they were
Speaker 2: just like, okay, you're fine, Like she seemed to be
Speaker 2: kind of checked out honestly, which is a wonderful way
Speaker 2: to be, especially in a testing situation.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's when we first started doing the podcast
Speaker 1: Lift an Uber. It either I think it was just
Speaker 1: starting to be a thing, like yeah, I or it
Speaker 1: just fully didn't exist yet.
Speaker 2: It was an eight years years ago. Yeah no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it would.
Speaker 1: Have been eight years Yeah, and then the so now
Speaker 1: lax has just kind of overrun. It's so it became
Speaker 1: so stressful, so we don't we kind of don't want
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we would always be late picking people up because
Speaker 3: we would enter Lax kind of on time, but it
Speaker 3: would take like twenty minutes to get around to like
Speaker 3: United or Southwest gates.
Speaker 1: I'm crazy.
Speaker 2: This is what I'm just relearning after, you know, since
Speaker 2: the pandemic has like you know, we're back traveling again.
Speaker 2: I missed my flight the other day because I was
Speaker 2: I went to FK. I used to be fully able
Speaker 2: to like travel around, have grown up by myself. Then
Speaker 2: I was at JFK literally just like sitting down with coffee,
Speaker 2: cup of coffee. I was supposed to be going to
Speaker 2: record wait, wait, don't tell me in a different city.
Speaker 2: And then I looked at my phone. It was like
Speaker 2: eight fifteen and my flight was at eight twenty five,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I better check what gates, you know,
Speaker 2: like I hadn't even found the gate yet, and I
Speaker 2: saw it was Gay like forty seven, and I was
Speaker 2: at Gay twenty. And the airport's are gigantic. Even in
Speaker 2: the car, as you said, it takes a few minutes
Speaker 2: to drive around and so then I kind of half
Speaker 2: heartedly ran, but like I knew I wasn't, but I
Speaker 2: felt like I should kind of jog. I was like
Speaker 2: hustle and I got I got to the gate genuinely
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes after the plane. I don't know why even
Speaker 2: bothered points and I was like a woman just like
Speaker 2: picking stickers off a wall or something, and I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is slightly.
Speaker 1: Really someone vacuuming. Oh no, I can't Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: believe I would do something. I would call the super shuttle,
Speaker 1: which was a van of strangers and depending on where
Speaker 1: they lived, you could be late for a flight just
Speaker 1: and not Oh so you have to build it.
Speaker 3: If you're going to take the airport shuttle, you had
Speaker 3: to held in easily three hours, like yeah, they could
Speaker 3: go anywhere. There was one morning I could talk about
Speaker 3: this forever. I got on a super shuttle at like
Speaker 3: five thirty in the morning because I had to go
Speaker 3: do colleges, and I saw it was such a nightmare,
Speaker 3: and of course I was incredibly hungover, and we picked up.
Speaker 3: It was like I got picked up. I was by
Speaker 3: myself in there for a little while. Then like say,
Speaker 3: two other groups of people got picked up. Then we
Speaker 3: went and picked sat in front of an apartment building
Speaker 3: on Rossmore. That street that vine turns into when it
Speaker 3: gets like.
Speaker 1: Into the throw a puddle there, and my car floated
Speaker 1: and was totaled on Rossmore. Continue your story, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: But now we know exactly where I'm talking.
Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, everyone knows where I flooded my car.
Speaker 3: Yes, And I remember that the woman took no joke
Speaker 3: twenty minutes to come out like she like it was
Speaker 3: there and she wasn't there waiting, and we waited for her.
Speaker 3: And at one point, after like fifteen minutes, I go, sorry,
Speaker 3: why are we waiting for this person?
Speaker 1: Why are we waiting? Right?
Speaker 3: It was just like then, I was the angry lady
Speaker 3: on the shuttle.
Speaker 1: I've been in this exact position. It's giving me. I
Speaker 1: literally experienced deja vous because I've had the exact send.
Speaker 1: You were the woman I was listen.
Speaker 2: He was sitting on his tinted moisturizer.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and just came out with three big old
Speaker 1: Duffel bags of nothing but socks. I don't know how
Speaker 1: any pack yet. The other way, when you're getting picked
Speaker 1: up to be at the airport to be dropped off.
Speaker 1: I always found it off putting that you're showing strangers
Speaker 1: where you live. Like, what if you get in an
Speaker 1: argument in the van and then they just stop right
Speaker 1: at your door. Yeah, because there's always some weirdo in
Speaker 1: the van? Is here everybody? Yeah, Hey, there's the door
Speaker 1: where you can come in and get all stabby. Yike.
Speaker 2: Wait, I thought you meant like hotels. This is your
Speaker 2: actual homes.
Speaker 1: Yes, they they they pick you up at at your
Speaker 1: home or drop you off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: And it's a.
Speaker 2: Shared Does this something a bit scary? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I think it's from the nineties. I think I don't
Speaker 3: know these days. I think it's what Uber turned into.
Speaker 3: But when you were just like a broke comic in
Speaker 3: the nineties, where you you wanted to get to the airport,
Speaker 3: you couldn't take a cab because it cost you one
Speaker 3: hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: This would cost you twelve. But you were carpooling with.
Speaker 3: Half your irresponsible neighborhood, and it was just like I
Speaker 3: barely got on this thing, and now I have to
Speaker 3: be like, I'm made late by this lady who can't
Speaker 3: even be bothered when it's like, no, I'm usually this person.
Speaker 2: Why don't I get to be this person?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I still see the vans. I might do
Speaker 1: it again, get.
Speaker 2: In there and see if it's an experience.
Speaker 1: The price.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that's the other piece of really
Speaker 3: enjoy lax is hard these days. Of course, Bourbonk is
Speaker 3: a dream, but that idea that traveling is so stressful
Speaker 3: and hard that I feel like I put myself into
Speaker 3: like a little snailshell the entire time I get dropped off.
Speaker 3: I'm moving through the airport, I get on that plane,
Speaker 3: there's anxiety, there's weird behavior from others, whatever. I lock
Speaker 3: myself in. I try to keep my seat the whole flight,
Speaker 3: if possible, And then once I get outside, it's like
Speaker 3: I don't want to then continue more stranger interaction, Like ye,
Speaker 3: as soon as I can get someone who I know
Speaker 3: personally to be like to be in a safe zone almost,
Speaker 3: I feel like that there's a value to that, like,
Speaker 3: but sometimes you just can't help it, Like if you're
Speaker 3: flying to New York and then you just have to
Speaker 3: get take a cab to your hotel or whatever, and
Speaker 3: then you're just it's just the extension of the trip.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it is, and it's like, could is it?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, is that a good enough reason
Speaker 2: to get married?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 2: Does that justify unhappy relationships?
Speaker 1: I have to the right. I'd have a ride all
Speaker 1: the time, and then someone could use this expensive massaging
Speaker 1: gun that I don't know how to use on my
Speaker 1: own back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, those are two really good reasons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's I Otherwise, I was thinking of developing
Speaker 1: some sort of amount for the wall that triggers the
Speaker 1: massage gun, and then you kind of back into it.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: I think that it's it's a pretty good idea.
Speaker 3: Well what about private mount though, make that in a
Speaker 3: private area?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, it's for my back. I have knots
Speaker 1: in my back. This isn't the Karen your dirty waist
Speaker 1: high kind of wall massage er. I really do have back.
Speaker 2: Don't let the pizza boy. We all have what did
Speaker 2: you call it, knots in our backs.
Speaker 1: I should settle down and need someone to take care
Speaker 1: of these knots in my mack back.
Speaker 3: The podcast that Mave's sister didn't want us to be.
Speaker 3: I know you are just doing it anyway such inevitable,
Speaker 3: So you still you still host butter Boy comedy which
Speaker 3: we've had a partner has been on and talked about
Speaker 3: it and it's my truly my favorite title of a
Speaker 3: comedy show.
Speaker 2: Oh I love doing that. Yeah, we host that every
Speaker 2: every Monday. Myself a Parna and there's another woman I
Speaker 2: can never remember her name, Joe Firestone. Do you know
Speaker 2: a woman?
Speaker 3: Woman?
Speaker 2: She's good, she's getting good. But no, we've been doing
Speaker 2: that for years now and it's it's lovely and it's
Speaker 2: cool as well to see all the like young comedians
Speaker 2: coming off and they're so brilliant and silly and free
Speaker 2: and like I love. I just love doing that every Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's miss I mean.
Speaker 3: I give them notes like severe, you take your take,
Speaker 3: your second last joke, put it number one, take number one,
Speaker 3: put it right.
Speaker 1: That's the note I every Karen, just tole silly.
Speaker 3: Don't be so free, and why do you feel so
Speaker 3: free to be silly?
Speaker 2: Shut it down?
Speaker 1: Think about that strength being. I've always said being silly
Speaker 1: comes with a cost.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's always ha ha before wow, here a butterboy comedy.
Speaker 2: We're gonna teach you a lesson.
Speaker 1: Do you still you said you were traveling for Wait? Wait,
Speaker 1: don't tell me, Oh, I.
Speaker 2: Just I mean they went remote like during the so
Speaker 2: but yeah, like I'm going there. Yeah, this week they
Speaker 2: tape in Chicago, so they just got a new theater
Speaker 2: in Chicago, so that's going to be lovely to do that.
Speaker 2: And then and then they go on the road sometimes
Speaker 2: and so they and they bring the comedians along with them,
Speaker 2: so it's actually like been a cool way to see
Speaker 2: different parts of the country.
Speaker 1: You have gone with them with them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but I mean to like Saint Paul. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's cool because I wouldn't get to see that otherwise.
Speaker 3: And also they have such a dedicated it's such a
Speaker 3: good show.
Speaker 2: It's been on for a really long time.
Speaker 3: It's like the audience must just be so thrilled to
Speaker 3: be able to see what they've been listening to for
Speaker 3: so long.
Speaker 2: I would imagine, yeah, they like the show is just
Speaker 2: like this. You know, the hosts have been there, Peter
Speaker 2: and Bill, and they're just so lovely and the listeners
Speaker 2: know them really well, like people have grown up with
Speaker 2: the show, which obviously I didn't because I'm not from here.
Speaker 2: But what's so cute to me when you go out
Speaker 2: is there's often like families and they have. It seems
Speaker 2: to me like eleven year olds are like the kind
Speaker 2: of there's sometimes older kids there too, but like eleven
Speaker 2: year olds just like get the show so hard. And
Speaker 2: sometimes I get like requests from parents being like my
Speaker 2: son is, you know, turning twelve, and he'd love a message.
Speaker 1: I'm like, how cute is that?
Speaker 2: And then I just he wants a message from a
Speaker 2: comedian for his birthday, like that is like the nerdiest,
Speaker 2: most beautiful thing. And then I just say to them,
Speaker 2: you know, happy one hundred and eleventh birthday. I can't
Speaker 2: believe you've made it. And then they're just like then
Speaker 2: they're like the mom sends me a photo of like
Speaker 2: just like a gangly boy, just like laughing.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I love it. It's my favorite email to
Speaker 1: get is my kid likes you. It's like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: that means so much more for some reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so too. I think because like theyre
Speaker 2: they If there's the older kids, I'm obviously so scared
Speaker 2: of because like I'm just like, oh my god, I
Speaker 2: know I'm just embarrassing. But like the younger kids like
Speaker 2: something about like under twelves, if they approve of you,
Speaker 2: you're just like, God, I must be something right and
Speaker 2: they just laugh. They laugh so like on inhibited. They're
Speaker 2: so uninhibited, you know, it's just like it's so fun.
Speaker 1: Any random situation that has caused me to do stand
Speaker 1: up for kids, you know, parents and kids, or I've
Speaker 1: done a kid's birthday party once. It was a gig
Speaker 1: at a festival. But for some reason, it feels so
Speaker 1: much better to be able to make kids laugh without
Speaker 1: you know, crossing your eyes and being falling down, which
Speaker 1: I will do if it makes kids laugh.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: One of my biggest regrets is I got laser surgery
Speaker 2: on my eyes and I can't cross them anymore.
Speaker 1: Oh what Literally, wait a minute, you're trying, right, trying?
Speaker 2: My eyes are hurting right now, trying a minute.
Speaker 1: Did the laser hit the musculature of your optic nerve?
Speaker 1: I don't know much about eyeballs.
Speaker 2: I guess like they used to cross naturally and I
Speaker 2: used to wear glasses. And also I just think it's
Speaker 2: like the funniest thing in the world is crossing ice.
Speaker 1: Yes, but I do. I'm okay with it.
Speaker 2: I can't do it anymore because I guess they over
Speaker 2: correct this.
Speaker 1: Well, how do you look like right now, look at
Speaker 1: the tip of your nose. I can't, you can't, You're right,
Speaker 1: they are? Wow?
Speaker 2: Is it good for Is this good for a poet?
Speaker 1: It is very visual. I I maybe just put your
Speaker 1: finger in forever nose and the eyes were dead set.
Speaker 1: It's like you were each what's looking past the finger?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Isn't it so sinister? So that's the greatest regret
Speaker 2: of my life.
Speaker 3: You can't rely on pure physical comedy anymore the way
Speaker 3: you used to.
Speaker 2: Have to level up, you have to get.
Speaker 1: My body.
Speaker 2: Always back to the body, the breath.
Speaker 1: Oh disappointed sisters, everywhere.
Speaker 2: You perfect you, perfectly buttoned.
Speaker 3: It may a light to get to talk to you
Speaker 3: for an hour.
Speaker 2: Such a tree, so, such a tree, thanks to both.
Speaker 1: Yea very fun and and let's not you too. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm about to do some squats. He did it. I
Speaker 1: did it. I brought up.
Speaker 3: And then you didn't even do what I know.
Speaker 1: I realized I was already sitting, and it's like, how
Speaker 1: do I do this? I might hurt my spine? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could do the shoulder squats. Oh, visually, that would
Speaker 1: have been good shoulder squats.
Speaker 3: Any plugs that you want to talk about or anything
Speaker 3: you want. People aside from wait, wait, don't tell me
Speaker 3: or Better Boy comedy, people.
Speaker 2: Can find me on Instagram at Maven America. I'm still
Speaker 2: holding out there for now, so that would be lovely.
Speaker 2: And I just want to say, like, it's so cool.
Speaker 2: I always see how like exactly right donates money to
Speaker 2: different causes. That is very cool because I don't see
Speaker 2: a lot of podcast networks doing that. And if I
Speaker 2: was you, i'd make it bigger data like so you
Speaker 2: and enjoy to just kind of like Musher, like there's
Speaker 2: like something terrible happening in the news and you're the musher. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we're going to donate ten thousand dollars. I'm going
Speaker 2: to donate twenty five thousand dollars to that. And I'm like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, you should do this. Should be there
Speaker 2: should be trumpet, and there should be How can you
Speaker 2: do a good thing and not make a big dala
Speaker 2: to it. That's my only criticism.
Speaker 3: You do.
Speaker 2: You're doing a lot and it's so wonderful and I
Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
Speaker 3: Thank you, my friend. Good for you, Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: I appreciate I feel seen, and I appreciate it. I
Speaker 3: think it's just it feels like these days and with
Speaker 3: the things that are going on and the extremity of everything,
Speaker 3: it just feels like it isn't enough.
Speaker 2: Nothing's enough.
Speaker 3: And so I think there's that piece of like, you know,
Speaker 3: we were given money.
Speaker 2: It's easy to give.
Speaker 3: Money when we were given money, you know. To me,
Speaker 3: it's just like keep it moving. It's like we got
Speaker 3: some money, keep that money, move in and actually direct
Speaker 3: it to our the places where it's needed. Because these
Speaker 3: fucking days, it's just like, please give as much money
Speaker 3: as you can to the A C. L U and
Speaker 3: all these play the smart people who are actually fighting
Speaker 3: back against straight up Nazis in the street.
Speaker 2: Like to me, I know, but I think I have
Speaker 2: to hear you. I just I think it's really important
Speaker 2: to point out when you do it though, just because
Speaker 2: it like jogs the rest of us as well. The
Speaker 2: so like an airhorn, just a quick kind of thing, yeah,
Speaker 2: just like you know, I mean, maybe you can make
Speaker 2: a jingle. I know you haven't traditionally done that, but
Speaker 2: you know, aren't we good? Aren't we good?
Speaker 1: Look at us? We're so good.
Speaker 3: That's just an idea or a series of slaps and
Speaker 3: it's like that's us patting ourselves on the back.
Speaker 2: Rhythmic slapping sound or like one of those you know,
Speaker 2: like when you hit a hammer and it.
Speaker 1: Like goes like a carnival.
Speaker 2: We give away this much today or something. Dang. Yep,
Speaker 2: oh I appreciate it, Yeah, of course, and thanks for today.
Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna get some money started for to
Speaker 3: get your eyes crossing again. I think that's our next
Speaker 3: important donation, don't you think get a little half the half?
Speaker 2: I really was not hinting at all.
Speaker 1: Fun, undo this laser surgery.
Speaker 2: I'll start contacting doctors. So when I'll get a few quotes.
Speaker 3: Yep, we're like and fifty thousand dollars go to it's
Speaker 3: worth everybody.
Speaker 2: Look at these eleven year olds cracking off across.
Speaker 1: Look at this new closing bit.
Speaker 2: The big eye cross all right, Well, thank you so
Speaker 2: much for all right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's so much fun.
Speaker 2: Yeah that was awesome.
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