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Speaker 2: us to something we do every Monday.
Speaker 1: Oh, things that make you go, Things that make you go,
Speaker 1: things that make you go.
Speaker 2: Shall I start m I In the history of watching football,
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever come away from a game
Speaker 2: feeling so blah.
Speaker 1: And let down. And I'm not even talking about the
Speaker 1: Niner Seahawks.
Speaker 2: Game, right That game was just that was a clobbering
Speaker 2: the Bills Broncos game. I think for the most part,
Speaker 2: unless you're a Denver fan, it was the Josh Allen
Speaker 2: feel good narrative that I guess, like you if your
Speaker 2: team wasn't in it, that was the number.
Speaker 1: One narrative, like this was his chance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the all roads led to Josh Allen
Speaker 2: getting his way and having his year. All his competition
Speaker 2: or all teams and players that we think of as
Speaker 2: his competition were out. This is Josh Allen's year to
Speaker 2: do it. But hold up, And for the record, I
Speaker 2: thought it was a catch. Yeah, scene, I thought it
Speaker 2: was a catch. And if we're gonna get to your
Speaker 2: thoughts on Buffalo and then the post game let down
Speaker 2: that think of the heis and low a Bronco fan.
Speaker 1: But first let's go to Dan Buyer some breaking NFL news.
Speaker 4: As.
Speaker 1: Breaking news from Fox Sports.
Speaker 5: Guys earlier today of the AFC East, Sean McDermott was
Speaker 5: fired as the Bills head coach. Sting in the division
Speaker 5: the Dolphins, multipler reports say we'll hire Packers defensive coordinator
Speaker 5: Jeff Halfley to be their new head coach. He'd be
Speaker 5: brought in by new GM john Eric Sullivan, who came
Speaker 5: from Green Bay. This is actually kind of thought to
Speaker 5: be a done deal, maybe a few days ago. But
Speaker 5: Hafley went on a couple of more interviews. Dolphins had
Speaker 5: more interviews. But Jeff Haffley is going to be the
Speaker 5: new head coach of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: You know what it's.
Speaker 2: Like the world of anything, really, music, acting, college football,
Speaker 2: until someone's a name, and that's a really deep statement, Comino.
Speaker 2: Until you're a name, you're a nobody and you hear
Speaker 2: a name like that, then unless you really.
Speaker 1: Know, it's not true. Gary Vaynerchuk says you're a somebody.
Speaker 1: I know he does say that. As long as you
Speaker 1: know it, that's all that matters. I'm just saying everyone
Speaker 1: else might not know it.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, when you're a fan of a team,
Speaker 2: you want your team to hire someone that's a household name.
Speaker 1: Jeff Haffley.
Speaker 2: Bro And I'm sure I've always said, ooh, I got
Speaker 2: a halfy like Jeff Haffley. I've always said that at
Speaker 2: least you'll have that reference moving forward.
Speaker 1: He's not new to me. I always use him as
Speaker 1: a reference.
Speaker 2: We'll say it's a it's a guy that it's not
Speaker 2: the sexy hire a fan likes, right, like a fan
Speaker 2: always wants the Harbaugh or the top line or the headline.
Speaker 2: I hear stuff like this, I get excited, And that's
Speaker 2: why I said what I said. I get excited.
Speaker 1: Because it's not always about the headline. I hate that.
Speaker 1: It's about the merit. It's about did you earn it?
Speaker 1: Even in our industry, what do they do?
Speaker 2: Not at Fox Sports, which I love about them, it's
Speaker 2: so easy to hire a name, hire someone.
Speaker 1: That deserves it. What are you looking for?
Speaker 2: Are you looking for the headline or are you looking
Speaker 2: to actually win for substance for merit? It seems like
Speaker 2: the story does give you a Halfley No, because it
Speaker 2: does give me half He like Jeff Hafley because for example,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to give you real life examples, right, guys.
Speaker 2: A lot of times companies hire big names for the
Speaker 2: press release, not necessarily because that person deserved it.
Speaker 1: Is they're riding on the fame.
Speaker 2: So if Fox Sports Radio hires a show like Cavino
Speaker 2: and Rich you're like, wow, these guys must be decent,
Speaker 2: there must be more.
Speaker 1: Who the hell are they? But if they go out
Speaker 1: there and.
Speaker 2: Hire Aaron Rodgers because he's available to do mornings, they're
Speaker 2: doing it solely for the headline, solely for the name,
Speaker 2: solely for the press release. So if the Dolphins make
Speaker 2: this move and you're like Jeff Halfley, you have to
Speaker 2: say to yourself, wow, he must really have earned it
Speaker 2: or deserve it, because it's not a sexy hire. It's
Speaker 2: not a sexy name. So I actually root for stories
Speaker 2: like this, So congrats.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was a hot candidate as the Steelers were
Speaker 3: just interested in him.
Speaker 2: Might be a hot candidate, but Rich's right, he's not
Speaker 2: like a household name. But guess what now he is.
Speaker 2: He's got a flat type like the Jim Ta tron
Speaker 2: viavis and butt heead. He's like mister buzzcutt.
Speaker 1: But you know what now he is? That's it. That's
Speaker 1: all you need to know.
Speaker 2: He has the merit and the substance to be that,
Speaker 2: and they're seeing through that and I love that, So
Speaker 2: props big news already.
Speaker 5: You know, he was an interesting guy as well, like
Speaker 5: I remember him obviously because he was the defensive coordinator
Speaker 5: at Ohio State for a couple of years, but he
Speaker 5: went and took the Boston College head coaching job then
Speaker 5: left there to be the Packers defensive coordinator. So it
Speaker 5: wasn't like a head coaching job moving on to another
Speaker 5: bigger college job or even an NFL job. He went
Speaker 5: and took the job and to be the defensive coordinator
Speaker 5: with the Packers. They were great defense up until Micah
Speaker 5: Parsons injury. But yeah, he is a He is a
Speaker 5: well well respected name within the circles, but just not
Speaker 5: a name that rises to the level of.
Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, if you're a Dolphins fan, I'm curious to
Speaker 2: hear from Dolphins fans. You go from strictly an offensive
Speaker 2: guy like Mike McDaniel to now it's like, all right,
Speaker 2: let's go defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's What's also interesting, guys, is we thought
Speaker 5: that the Dolphins fired Mike McDaniel to get John Harball, right,
Speaker 5: Like that was the timing of it. McDaniel was going
Speaker 5: to be involved in a GM search. Then Harball gets
Speaker 5: fired and all of a sudden, the Dolphins are like, Okay,
Speaker 5: well now McDaniel's fired. So like we thought all right,
Speaker 5: that's why the Dolphins made the move. So not only
Speaker 5: do they not get John Harbaugh to replace Mike McDaniel,
Speaker 5: they go other side of the football with a GM
Speaker 5: hired from the same organization. So you're just kind of
Speaker 5: wondering on what the direction is. Maybe this is the
Speaker 5: direction that they wanted, but they fired their GM, Chris Greer,
Speaker 5: during the middle of the season, and there was some
Speaker 5: thought that maybe John Harball would be the guy because
Speaker 5: of the timing of everything, but that's not the case.
Speaker 2: The coaching carousels is really funny when you think about
Speaker 2: it in terms of like dating, right, Like your girlfriend
Speaker 2: with someone else's girlfriend wants that your wife was someone's
Speaker 2: girlfriend and it didn't work out, like there was some
Speaker 2: guy out there or she was like, yeah, this this sucks,
Speaker 2: but to you, it works out perfectly.
Speaker 1: Your wife could have had the sexy headline and she
Speaker 1: chose you.
Speaker 2: That's true. It's likely she could have had sexy your
Speaker 2: headlines in me, but she must say your headlines, I'd
Speaker 2: know you because you earned it and deserve it. And
Speaker 2: if you just joined us. Breaking news from Dan Byer,
Speaker 2: Dolphins are hiring former Packers defensive coordinator Jeff Halfley as
Speaker 2: their head coach, and again not to downplay or take
Speaker 2: away his merit, his resume or what he's accomplished, but
Speaker 2: probably not a household name for most people. But you know,
Speaker 2: it does go like a harball, as Dan Bayer mentioned before,
Speaker 2: it does go to the work and relationship analogy of
Speaker 2: like someone else's trash could be your treasure type of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you could say, like Sean McDermott now out of
Speaker 2: a gig, if he couldn't take Josh Allen, and you know,
Speaker 2: you could say that if he couldn't, if he couldn't
Speaker 2: get there with Josh Allen, who's he gonna get there with?
Speaker 1: And vice versa.
Speaker 2: I look at that as a scapegoat story, I really do.
Speaker 2: He was all pumped up till Yeah, he was defending
Speaker 2: his team, which I thought was.
Speaker 1: A catch too.
Speaker 2: If that's a catch and buffalo moves on that James
Speaker 2: Cook played, I wasn't a catch and he was down.
Speaker 2: How could it have been any other way? So I
Speaker 2: respect that he defended it, and yeah, he's fired, As
Speaker 2: you guys know. Sean McDermott nine seasons with the team,
Speaker 2: fourth time in five seasons exited in the divisional round,
Speaker 2: had a record of ninety eight and fifty did pretty
Speaker 2: damn well. But I get it couldn't get over that hump.
Speaker 2: So you gotta do something to show the fans that
Speaker 2: you care, right, and you can't do anything about Josh Allen,
Speaker 2: so you fire the coach. So McDermott's out. So answer
Speaker 2: answered this question. I started by saying, it's the coaching
Speaker 2: carousel of twenty twenty five. Has there been a game
Speaker 2: that's left you more deflated than that Buffalo Bill's Denver
Speaker 2: Broncos game because it was the weakest by the way
Speaker 2: for the record eight to eight. McDermott speaking of eight
Speaker 2: to eight in the postseason with the Bills. So the
Speaker 2: Bill's loose. You see sad Josh Allen, You see Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a catch. You thought it was
Speaker 2: a catchy. I guess it wasn't a catch. Shoot, everybody
Speaker 2: thought it was a catch. You think it was a
Speaker 2: catch in the moment, I did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Afterward, you don't.
Speaker 3: Seriously, I guess I can see how it's argued in
Speaker 3: both directions after watching the slow mo of it. But
Speaker 3: in the moment, I thought, Okay, that's a catch because
Speaker 3: usually it's like baseball, tie goes to the runner. Our
Speaker 3: whole adult lives watching football. Even as kids, we were
Speaker 3: taught that if you know, the ball gets pulled away
Speaker 3: like that after it looks like the player came down
Speaker 3: with a knee, that it's the it goes to the receiver.
Speaker 3: Tie goes to the receiver.
Speaker 2: So it seemed like we saw so many contradicting and
Speaker 2: conflicting calls in other games that made you say him
Speaker 2: this weekend, you.
Speaker 1: Know what sucks is that?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 1: Because it's professional sports and I know this sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You can't do it. Do over. There are times where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it's so close, can we do it over?
Speaker 2: You know what, you have to make a call, and
Speaker 2: the call had to be made, and by giving that
Speaker 2: call to the Broncos, they essentially you essentially.
Speaker 1: Ended the bill season no doubt. That puts him in
Speaker 1: field goal range.
Speaker 2: We could be talking about Josh Allen's miracle run goes
Speaker 2: on and next week he's playing in New England against
Speaker 2: you know division rival and Vrabel and Drake May. The
Speaker 2: storyline was ripped away in that one moment. That one
Speaker 2: moment changed everything. I'm not saying that body language matters
Speaker 2: in the NFL like it does in the NBA, because
Speaker 2: in NBA you could really sell something.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like Cook's body language.
Speaker 2: Made it appear like it was an interception, like he
Speaker 2: did get it because he laid there in almost a
Speaker 2: defeated way.
Speaker 1: You're saying he celebrating.
Speaker 2: If he popped up and went yes, like it again,
Speaker 2: he he almost looks like, oh man, like I can't
Speaker 2: believe what happened.
Speaker 3: Differently on the field, that's half the battle. The battle
Speaker 3: is having to overturn it.
Speaker 2: I even like, you know, when I saw the body language,
Speaker 2: I'm like, he lost the ball as opposed to no,
Speaker 2: I caught it and I was down and play it
Speaker 2: off ro I feel like that added a lot to
Speaker 2: the call and the momentum shift with the with the game. Now,
Speaker 2: the truth will be told in an instant replay, but
Speaker 2: if it's so close, Danny's right, the initial call watch
Speaker 2: it again is the most important because that's what has
Speaker 2: to be overturned.
Speaker 1: If you pop up in that moment and you go
Speaker 1: like first and.
Speaker 2: Celebrate as opposed to look and defeat in that moment,
Speaker 2: I think maybe you maybe you get a different call,
Speaker 2: because to me, that was a catch.
Speaker 1: Before instant replay.
Speaker 2: The art of selling the call the catch in baseball,
Speaker 2: you know, phantom tag selling a play was selling a game.
Speaker 2: So maybe maybe Cooks didn't sell it in.
Speaker 3: Lebraun was watching the game shaking his head like, man,
Speaker 3: Cooks did that all wrong?
Speaker 1: Serious but that.
Speaker 2: But you know, even Peyton Manning after the game said
Speaker 2: he thought it was a hoax because all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I said, within it within minutes, you go from man
Speaker 2: buffalo bummer. All right, Denver, you know what Peyton and
Speaker 2: bow knicks as teams for real.
Speaker 1: We'll have a battle next week.
Speaker 4: I suppose.
Speaker 2: Then you hear bo Nick's ankle broken. And by the
Speaker 2: way Sean Payton said, it's so nonchalantly. In my mind,
Speaker 2: I think as a leader, you don't want to show
Speaker 2: any panic and you want to prove that we're good
Speaker 2: and he's ready and just lead with that level of confidence.
Speaker 2: I think that's really why what's he gonna do, like,
Speaker 2: oh man, this is the worst news for us. He
Speaker 2: can't behave that way. He has to show confidence in
Speaker 2: his team and confidence to the fans like no, we
Speaker 2: still got this. He's the guy we have a system.
Speaker 2: But if it does pan out where Stitty comes through,
Speaker 2: what does that say about bo Nix's legacy moving forward?
Speaker 1: Oh? I said this to com It doesn't help it.
Speaker 3: Let me give you.
Speaker 1: Let me give you two cases of this and let's
Speaker 1: go around the room, play a little what do you think?
Speaker 1: But not the backtrack, Rich You're absolutely right. The second
Speaker 1: you hear that news, you're like, oh, even weaker.
Speaker 2: Now. You know, my brother's a brother for reason for
Speaker 2: the Bills to have won that game. My brother likes
Speaker 2: the Broncos. And my dad was saying that, Hey, you
Speaker 2: know your brother said, if he would have known this
Speaker 2: would happen, he would have been like that, give the
Speaker 2: game the Buffalo seriously. So I remember Carson Wentz was
Speaker 2: all the rage. He was on an MVP type of
Speaker 2: season for the Philadelphia Eagles. He gets hurt, Nick Foles
Speaker 2: wins a Super Bowl, Carson Wentz and gains a sweet
Speaker 2: reputation and nickname. Oh, big Nick, everybody knows can't do it.
Speaker 2: So big Nick wins the Super Bowl. Yeah, Big Year's Nick,
Speaker 2: Big Years Nick. Big Year's Nick wins the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Carson Wentz before the
Speaker 2: career goes, you know, Astray. There was a sense of well,
Speaker 2: we want a super Bowl with without the he was
Speaker 2: the guy, but now we won without him. So it
Speaker 2: was a sense of Philadelphia Eagles super Bowl champions and
Speaker 2: our quarterbacks like the guy that wasn't minute. How could
Speaker 2: you be the star of the team when your backup
Speaker 2: is who led you to a super Bowl. It's kind
Speaker 2: of tough living in that shadow. You're never the same guy.
Speaker 2: So if Stidy leads them all the way, what does
Speaker 2: it say. It says that, well, they have a great system,
Speaker 2: they're coached really well, they have a great team, great defense,
Speaker 2: and yeah they won with out their start. When I
Speaker 2: say we don't need this guy and it sucks for Nicks,
Speaker 2: it's really tough. Unintended Phil Simms. Do you do you
Speaker 2: think Phil Simms, oh, two times super Bowl champ or
Speaker 2: do you think Phil Simms, Oh, he won against the
Speaker 2: Broncos in the eighties And you're like, I guess he
Speaker 2: did technically have a second one member Hostetler came in
Speaker 2: at the end of the year and that team ended
Speaker 2: up winning. Do you look at Phil Simms and say,
Speaker 2: two time Super Bowl champion Danny or one time.
Speaker 3: That's a tough one.
Speaker 2: You know, it doesn't make it true, but it's house
Speaker 2: perceived right. Well, yeah, on paper and reality of two
Speaker 2: different things. Phil Simms is a one time Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 2: In my eyes, he didn't beat the Buffalo Bills. Jeff
Speaker 2: Hosteler's Giants won that game.
Speaker 3: But you could make an argument that bo Nicks took
Speaker 3: Denver as far as he took them this season. And Covi,
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying about how the thought could be, well,
Speaker 3: maybe they don't need them, but they're gonna need him
Speaker 3: in the super Bowl. Yeah, home playoff game, a home
Speaker 3: championship game, they could maybe win off the power of
Speaker 3: their defense with a backup quarterback in the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Though, Yeah, but we saw Foles do it.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I'm not saying it's impossible. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying it's not impossible. And this is the most cool
Speaker 2: opportunity ever forstit him. He seems like a like a cool,
Speaker 2: handsome dude. I saw picture him and his girlfriend and
Speaker 2: they're like, yeah, let's he's taken on this opportunity. I
Speaker 2: do like the underdog backup storyline. I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 2: By any means. I wish him all the best, but
Speaker 2: it's sort of tough, and it does make you feel
Speaker 2: worse about the Bills blowing their chances. That way, you
Speaker 2: could say, you could say richest the stupidest thing you
Speaker 2: ever said on Fox, and it's possible. But I think
Speaker 2: there's a part of the subconscious of bo Nicks that is, like, I,
Speaker 2: this can't happen because if if Denver wins without bo Nicks,
Speaker 2: there will be that underlying like.
Speaker 1: As Drake may said, we ever need he's a good
Speaker 1: Christian man, He's not gonna think that way. What's up deep?
Speaker 5: I think there's the other side of the coin, Like,
Speaker 5: in a weird way, I think that Sean Payton loves this.
Speaker 5: Imagine what this does for Sean Payton's reputation ego if
Speaker 5: he loses his quarterback, you know, prior to the AFC
Speaker 5: Championship game.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 2: I think that's why we saw that confidence. He's so
Speaker 2: confident that like it's him in the system and they're
Speaker 2: coaching that could them that we're good with Citty.
Speaker 1: He's ready to go.
Speaker 4: dB.
Speaker 3: Did you notice how Peyton even joked like, oh, if
Speaker 3: I knew about these ankle injuries. You know, we wouldn't
Speaker 3: have drafted bow Knicks. Sure, now that was like, that's
Speaker 3: a weird time to joke.
Speaker 1: There was.
Speaker 5: There was also Peyton having to do two press conferences
Speaker 5: because Nix wasn't gonna come out because of the injury.
Speaker 5: But if we look back to last the twenty twenty
Speaker 5: four offseason when they were in training camp, Stidham was
Speaker 5: thought to be the leader in the clubhouse for that job.
Speaker 5: And then because Zach Wilson was also in that quarterback room, yep,
Speaker 5: but Stidham was thought to be the leader. Then it
Speaker 5: ended up you heard rumblings it's going to be Bonix Bonix.
Speaker 5: So I don't think that there is underprepared. The one
Speaker 5: thing I will say with Wentz, the only difference is
Speaker 5: at least the Eagles had a ramp up period for
Speaker 5: Foles to get acclimated. This is just trying to figure
Speaker 5: out how for sixty minutes you could beat the New
Speaker 5: England Patriots.
Speaker 2: Hosteller had two regular season weeks before the postseason. Foles
Speaker 2: had even a longer runway. I think Wentz got hurt
Speaker 2: like week twelve or thirteen or something like that. I
Speaker 2: just there's always gonna be similarities. And I look at
Speaker 2: those two previous examples of well, Phil Simms really didn't
Speaker 2: win too and yo, Carson Wentz on paper super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1: But that's Nick Foles.
Speaker 2: And if you're a Denver Broncos fan and Stidham comes
Speaker 2: in there and you somehow win, you need to win
Speaker 2: two games.
Speaker 1: That's a crazy part, right, you need to beat New England.
Speaker 2: And then and then two wins away from being this
Speaker 2: you have one of the game in a few weeks
Speaker 2: from now.
Speaker 3: But as a starter in the NFL, Stidham's one and
Speaker 3: three right, right, you know? And I got an eye
Speaker 3: full of Stidham when he was playing for the Raiders
Speaker 3: not too long ago.
Speaker 1: But DNN is not.
Speaker 3: He's not horrible, but he's just not a great quarterback either.
Speaker 2: Let's just say right, let's just say he does it.
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks becomes so irrelevant to a Denver Broncos fan.
Speaker 2: I'm probably unfortunate. You've seen it happen in the past.
Speaker 2: I lived in New York when Hosteler won with the Giants.
Speaker 2: Don't one cared about Phil Simms the same way, and
Speaker 2: Carson Wentz the next year. Everyone's going big, is it
Speaker 2: lipsnick right big years Nick everyone was hearing for Nick
Speaker 2: Foles and he was a backup. Then he became this
Speaker 2: legend like this this year, Philly Special was getting MVP
Speaker 2: chance before that happened. So they loved Wentz, they loved
Speaker 2: Ones leading into that, and then he became like a
Speaker 2: second thought leftovers after that.
Speaker 3: Does it make you feel any different though that The
Speaker 3: Patriots defense is what you could say they are riding
Speaker 3: on right now, and Drake May and that offense look
Speaker 3: slightly shaky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they look vulnerable for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying because Denver's defense is good, nothing nothing
Speaker 2: is impossible, right because if Denver could keep you in
Speaker 2: every game, what Stident would have to do is not
Speaker 2: as drastic. They're like Caleb Williams brock Party. There are
Speaker 2: teams whose defenses were not great, and you knew you
Speaker 2: had to put up points to win, right Like you
Speaker 2: know you had to do something special to win. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you need to do something that special
Speaker 2: in Denver to win if it's a defensive battle.
Speaker 5: Denver's got one of the best, if not the best,
Speaker 5: offensive line in the National Football League. Forty percent of
Speaker 5: the line's name First team all pro defensively, we know
Speaker 5: how much they get after it. That's why I think
Speaker 5: the Peyton thing is just so intriguing of how do
Speaker 5: you win this sixty minute battle, because that's really all
Speaker 5: that it is. It's not a long it's not a
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Speaker 1: On Sunday I heard Dan Patrick on the network talking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: How we use the word game manager like it's all negative,
Speaker 2: but at this stage of the game of the playoffs,
Speaker 2: you just need to find a way to win in
Speaker 2: sixty minutes. Managing the that's what you're doing, your managing
Speaker 2: how do I win this game? And Sean Payton could
Speaker 2: if the score zerosier after the first quarter, he might
Speaker 2: be like, yes, exactly what I wanted, Like just no
Speaker 2: one moved the ball, it's just clock, kill the clock
Speaker 2: and get you know, get a couple of drive going.
Speaker 2: Like it's not about what rich To wrap up this
Speaker 2: thought about bon Nicks and how unfortunate that was and
Speaker 2: how that just added to the deflating feeling of the
Speaker 2: Bills losing that one because it was a heartbreaker. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you saw how many people thought that
Speaker 2: the bon Nick story was a hoax and Peyton manning
Speaker 2: like I said, ye, yeah, but it was all over
Speaker 2: so many fans like did it? Like wives were filming
Speaker 2: their husbands finding out. I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 2: things really that's really kind. Yeah, but in the world,
Speaker 2: in the world of Ai and Sora and fake news,
Speaker 2: you really didn't know what to believe.
Speaker 1: You're like, wait, is that true? Didn't know?
Speaker 2: Didn't Peyton reach out to Bronco's front office folks saying like, yo,
Speaker 2: is this a hoax or not? So it's a shame
Speaker 2: that we live in a world where we don't even
Speaker 2: know what to believe. But apparently it happened on the
Speaker 2: second to last play, and in retrospect you saw him
Speaker 2: hobbling off the field, wincing and remissing, as they say,
Speaker 2: And to say that getting injured at and inopportunity, wincing
Speaker 2: getting injured and inopportune time and giving someone else a
Speaker 2: chance to be a hero. If you tell me that
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Speaker 2: from this divisional playoff weekend. We didn't even talk about CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud and how terrible he played. I felt bad watching him.
Speaker 2: We didn't talk about the Green Day news. We have
Speaker 2: lots to get to, but your phone calls first. Yeah,
Speaker 2: say hi to Travis in Los Angeles. Hi Travis, Hey Travis.
Speaker 8: So Rich Now that your team's out, you're available seven
Speaker 8: days a week for flag football, right.
Speaker 1: Yes, I am available every day, you know, speaking of
Speaker 1: Is that all you had to say?
Speaker 2: With all the injuries and yeah, you want me to
Speaker 2: play flag football. My daughter plays floud football. With all
Speaker 2: the injuries with your team, I know experts have debunked
Speaker 2: the conspiracy and debunked the rumors and if you don't
Speaker 2: know what we're talking about. Their practice facility, the forty
Speaker 2: nine ers practice facility in Santa Clara is right next
Speaker 2: to this electrical substation. They're saying that the frequency is
Speaker 2: there weaken the tendons, like the electromagnetic fields weaken the
Speaker 2: tendons and affect the muscles, causing all these injuries. I
Speaker 2: know it's been debunked, but who went there? MythBusters who?
Speaker 2: I don't know anyone that debunked.
Speaker 1: This read it.
Speaker 2: I don't has been a viral story. It hasn't hit
Speaker 2: the mainstream to my knowledge. I see it all over
Speaker 2: social media. Yeah, they test the electromagnetic field and they
Speaker 2: say it's it's a lot stronger in that area and
Speaker 2: it's not good for the muscles. You know, when you
Speaker 2: look at how injured they were, even during the game
Speaker 2: this weekend, McCaffrey and a shoulder. You see him grimacing,
Speaker 2: You see how much pain he was in. You're like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, is there something like if it's not that,
Speaker 2: then what is it? Because Richard's no way your team
Speaker 2: had any chance. But I don't though it was Kendrick
Speaker 2: Bourn or it wasn't Jennings A forty nine Ers receiver
Speaker 2: in a postgame. It makes me say referenced it as
Speaker 2: like a joke though, like it's all the power facility
Speaker 2: next to the what gives with the injuries?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: Listen, it could be total bs. You could send the
Speaker 2: MythBusters or whoever they are. But I think in today's
Speaker 2: day and age of AI and fake news and no
Speaker 2: one knowing what's true and is it Sora, is it
Speaker 2: a real video? I do think that the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers need to legit put out a statement like all
Speaker 2: this is nonsense, because there could be a free agent
Speaker 2: or draft pick or someone that's like, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if I want to be Doctors and experts have
Speaker 2: debunked it as baseless, stating there's no scientific evidence that
Speaker 2: it harms players, though the team's injuries are real and
Speaker 2: clearly impacted the team this year, so that's too rich.
Speaker 2: But to me, I'm like, man, you just almost want
Speaker 2: that as an answer, because it would make more sense.
Speaker 1: You just read something you googled. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's true.
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 1: Dan Bayer.
Speaker 5: The one thing that I would say in defense of
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers is they've practiced in this area
Speaker 5: for this for decades. I've stadium was built right next
Speaker 5: to their practice facility, so it's not like this is
Speaker 5: just a previous couple of seasons.
Speaker 4: They've been there for a long long time.
Speaker 2: But it only makes me say hmm when you look
Speaker 2: at the shell of a team they were playing with
Speaker 2: over the weekend.
Speaker 1: So and they did their best. Man, you can't blame Purdy,
Speaker 1: you can't blame McCaffrey.
Speaker 2: You heard someone else blaming Kyle Shanahan saying that they
Speaker 2: practice they practice at a which is it not like
Speaker 2: a not less full contact like interesting, Shanahan's practices sure
Speaker 2: are lighter than most every head coach.
Speaker 1: So people get in the game in full force.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like they've like Shanahan's practices are more mechanical than.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I and that could that could be a reason
Speaker 5: why I will say this just to make a bigger picture.
Speaker 5: I'm curious on your thoughts, Like there are guys that
Speaker 5: got injured that I'm just like, yeah, they get injured.
Speaker 5: Like Trent Williams. I know he played and played in
Speaker 5: the previous you know, playoff games, but was heard at
Speaker 5: the end of the regular season Trent Williams is old, right,
Speaker 5: This stuff this stuff happens to players who are older,
Speaker 5: and the forty nine ers are an older team. What
Speaker 5: I just find interesting is we're just a couple of
Speaker 5: seasons removed of a healthy Brandon Ayuk, Adebo, Samuel, all
Speaker 5: of these weapons. You know, George Kittle's in his early thirties,
Speaker 5: but all of these weapons at their disposal, and now
Speaker 5: you get into the playoffs this year and you're thrown
Speaker 5: to Juwan Jennings.
Speaker 2: I think that's the one thing that no one talks
Speaker 2: about about the forty nine ers. I'm glad you brought
Speaker 2: it up. Dan as a Niners fan. I said to Cavino,
Speaker 2: I said, you run it back with healthy players, you're
Speaker 2: still lacking a big receiver.
Speaker 1: You're right.
Speaker 2: The forty nine ers were like, well, you have Ayuk,
Speaker 2: you had Debo, who's like this multi purpose guy in
Speaker 2: his prime.
Speaker 5: They tried to draft Piersol, but he's spent a bust
Speaker 5: and I know the start of last year was very
Speaker 5: unfortunate with the with the you know, the gun shot situation.
Speaker 5: But this year he's been injured throughout the year, so
Speaker 5: that hasn't panned out like you would have hoped.
Speaker 2: I think other than just getting healthy. The forty nine
Speaker 2: ers do need to figure out in free agency or
Speaker 2: the draft, Like a wide receiver is on the list, Yeah,
Speaker 2: like they You're right, Juan Jennings other than him, Like
Speaker 2: like Kendrick Bourne was back in the mix.
Speaker 1: Like people that came back in the mix that wouldn't
Speaker 1: even be on other teams.
Speaker 2: Something that made me go over the weekend again. We'll
Speaker 2: take your phone calls. Hey, congrats to the Rams, nothing
Speaker 2: against them, And props to Stafford's teeth. Man, I don't
Speaker 2: know if you saw how gleaming white his teeth were
Speaker 2: at the end of the game he made to.
Speaker 1: Just for men his cheek bunce. You don't like that, huh.
Speaker 1: It's listen, grizzled like wisdom. Look of wisdom. No, but
Speaker 1: it's like I'll be I'll tell everyone the honest truth.
Speaker 2: I touch up the sides a little bit because right
Speaker 2: there by the jawline where Matthew Stafford just has great patches,
Speaker 2: it's not a good look.
Speaker 1: Like I'm just feel like a little touch up.
Speaker 3: Little weird look. It's like a gray swirl.
Speaker 2: I do notice, even like a wolverine were rocking more
Speaker 2: of like a more of a like a stubbly beard
Speaker 2: that touch up that area, he got a pully Walnuts
Speaker 2: thing going on and his face during that game. I said,
Speaker 2: not to take away from their win, but man, Caleb
Speaker 2: Williams really showed superstar potential in this run, and he
Speaker 2: made me a belief. We saw maybe the greatest playoff
Speaker 2: play of all time. I think dannyj You even said,
Speaker 2: was that like the dopest play ever. It really was
Speaker 2: an amazing play to keep them in the game. And
Speaker 2: then he throws an interception and you could blame him
Speaker 2: or DJ Moore's round no more give up on that
Speaker 2: route he did. He did ye. It was a bad
Speaker 2: or you could say bad communication and timing on that play.
Speaker 2: But for him to go from hero to zero that quick,
Speaker 2: I felt for the dude and just everything he said
Speaker 2: after the game it made me like him even more.
Speaker 2: Like I'm a fan of not the Bears, but of
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams moving forward. I really believe in that guy,
Speaker 2: and I think he'll learn from that, and it was
Speaker 2: really cool to see how big he played in those
Speaker 2: big moments. All right, let's go to dB for an update.
Speaker 1: Dan Buyer, what's up?
Speaker 2: But up?
Speaker 4: Yeah, guys, I'll make it quick.
Speaker 5: The big news of the day is the Bills fired
Speaker 5: head coach Sean McDermott, but they promoted general manager Brandon Bean.
Speaker 5: The Dolphins have hired Jeff Haffley to be their new
Speaker 5: head coach. He was the Packers defensive coordinator, comes over
Speaker 5: from Green Bay, hired by new general manager John Eric Sullivan,
Speaker 5: who was a former piece of the Packers' front office.
Speaker 5: Seahawks running back Zach Sharbonne is going to miss the
Speaker 5: remainder of the season after suffering a torn acl and
Speaker 5: there win over the forty nine Ers on Saturday, Bronco's
Speaker 5: finally getting some good news. They open up the practice
Speaker 5: window for running back JK. Dobbins, who hasn't played since
Speaker 5: the middle of the regular season because of a foot injury.
Speaker 5: Some more coaching news in the NFL. The Lions are
Speaker 5: hiring former Cardinals offensive coordinator Drew Pencing to be their
Speaker 5: OC in Detroit, Falcons keeping defensive coordinator Jeff Ulbrich. He'll
Speaker 5: work under new head coach Kevin Stefanski. And it looks
Speaker 5: like Eric b Enemy's going to be on his way
Speaker 5: back to Kansas City as the Chief's offensive coordinator. Jordan
Speaker 5: Schultz says that Bienemy likely lining up to replace Matt Naggi,
Speaker 5: who's interviewing for head coaching jobs. Nagy's contract not renewed
Speaker 5: by the Chiefs, as he's could be headed again to
Speaker 5: be a head coach again in the National Football League.
Speaker 5: Bienemy most recently the Bears running backs coach Indiana Miami
Speaker 5: for college Football's National Championship tonight in South Florida. Bucks
Speaker 5: top the Hawks one twelve to one ten. Clippers just
Speaker 5: out lasted the Warriors one ten to one oh six.
Speaker 5: Well Shay Gildess, Alexander at thirty chat Holmgren twenty eight
Speaker 5: thunder rout the Calves one thirty six to one oh four.
Speaker 5: Lebron James the streak of being named an All Star
Speaker 5: Game starter comes to an end today after twenty one
Speaker 5: straight season. Yeah guys, back to what streak?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I you know I've I have more thoughts
Speaker 2: on Caleb Williams, So put a put a hold on
Speaker 2: that for a second. Caleb Williams, we gotta talk more
Speaker 2: about him. And this video of Tom Brady throwing on
Speaker 2: the field that I got, I have a thought about
Speaker 2: Tom too. So we'll get to a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2: Last one standing and I thought about baseball and tonight, Danny,
Speaker 2: you get a little preview of your dude. Let's go, Fernando.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate that. As Wes from Vegas said, who's a Seahawks fan?
Speaker 1: All for nothing?
Speaker 4: And oh what? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That was tough. We want to go to Kevin Culver City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he wants to talk about Caleb Williams in that play, keV.
Speaker 8: What's Fellows?
Speaker 4: What's up?
Speaker 8: Man? Hey? That play was incredible because he's running back
Speaker 8: fifty yards and then he does like he's falling down
Speaker 8: three guys in front of him. He prows the ball
Speaker 8: accurately perfectly in the end zone with met Kats. I
Speaker 8: thought they were going to go.
Speaker 6: For two too. I thought the Rams were four. After
Speaker 6: the game's over, There's no way the Rams were going
Speaker 6: to stop them there because Caleb could have run the
Speaker 6: ball or through it. So the Rams got away with
Speaker 6: one yer. So I totally thought they were going for
Speaker 6: doing and another thing too, which hit them. All you
Speaker 6: need is for a backup quarterback is one game. I mean,
Speaker 6: so he might not get the two games, but you
Speaker 6: can win one game with him. That's what a backup
Speaker 6: quarterback is.
Speaker 2: I think, like we were saying, that offensive line for
Speaker 2: Denver solid. They have a good running game, they have
Speaker 2: a great defense. It's it's a scenario where a backup
Speaker 2: quarterback could do things like you don't ask a lot.
Speaker 2: You don't ask a lot out of a quarterback in
Speaker 2: that scenario. That's why you saw the confidence of Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: That's what I think. I agree with Dan said, you know,
Speaker 2: I think this is his chance to shine. I think
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams in that moment, like well, Ben Johnson did
Speaker 2: you see Ben Johnson after the game, They asked him
Speaker 2: why he didn't go for two, And you had noticed
Speaker 2: throughout that game the Bears had struggled on fourth and short.
Speaker 1: They had come up short a few times.
Speaker 2: So in that moment, Ben Johnson did say, because of
Speaker 2: their lack of success earlier in the game in those
Speaker 2: short yardage fourth on situations, that he felt better about
Speaker 2: going to overtime. He thought about it, but earlier in
Speaker 2: the game there were moments where the Bears look lost
Speaker 2: on like fourth and two.
Speaker 3: Cove. It's like a boxing match when you got a
Speaker 3: guy on the ropes, you gotta finish him up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you let him go to another round. Who knows how
Speaker 3: it's gonna finish, Danny.
Speaker 1: You're right, thirty seconds left in the round. You don't
Speaker 1: want to let him get to the next round.
Speaker 2: You want to you have thirty seconds, knock them out
Speaker 2: and they have the chance to be like it would
Speaker 2: have been the most ballsy call, I would say, arguably
Speaker 2: in recent NFL history, to go for it in the
Speaker 2: end of regulation, go for two for the win.
Speaker 1: But if they go for that, if they go for
Speaker 1: that and get it, Ben Johnson is like a hero.
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams. But you know what, I'll you know what
Speaker 1: they got.
Speaker 2: They got the NDI Chavez treatment, and you might be like,
Speaker 2: who's Indie Chavez? Exactly one of the greatest catches you
Speaker 2: ever see in baseball postseason history, New York Met leftfielder
Speaker 2: jumped over the wall to bring back a home running
Speaker 2: game seven none, But the only problem was the Mets
Speaker 2: ends up losing the game and what would have been
Speaker 2: called the greatest catch ever is just a cool moment
Speaker 2: that would have been if the Bears win that game.
Speaker 2: If the Bears win that game, that's one of the
Speaker 2: greatest moments in playoff history. We got more seeing our
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