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Speaker 1: This is the Huddle Up Podcast with JP Shadrick, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: and John Oshan. The Huddle Up Podcast starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of the Huddle Up Podcast. J. P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 1: Senior writer for Jaguars dot Com, John Oshan in NFL

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Speaker 1: media analyst, Bucky Brooks, and plenty to get to today.

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Speaker 1: The franchise tag window is open. There are options at

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Speaker 1: left tackle. We'll get to some of that coming up.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the Jaguars public relations staff, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll get two quarterbacks. Especially we know about Trevor Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: but what about the backup situation for the Jaguars. That

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Speaker 1: will be our look at pending free agents today, continuing

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Speaker 1: a conversation from Jaguars reporters, and we'll get to Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks position group prospect rankings today we'll go through his

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Speaker 1: top five tight ends considering the Jaguars have some news

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Speaker 1: there this week, and always remember to subscribe to the

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Speaker 1: plenty of comments, and here we are. This would have

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Speaker 1: been NFL Combine week. Bucky, what in the world. We're

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Speaker 1: not at prime forty seven tonight. I know, like JP

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Speaker 1: is is one of the down moments because your body's

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Speaker 1: I should be knee deep in some shrump cocktail right

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Speaker 1: now with a little horse little horsey sauce, little horse

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Speaker 1: cock cock horse radish cocktail sauce from saying almost trying

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Speaker 1: to get my bearings back. And you know that the

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Speaker 1: sad thing about um not having the combine is not

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Speaker 1: necessarily just the on field workouts and interviews and those things,

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Speaker 1: but the combine was the NFL Convention for everybody, scouts, coaches,

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Speaker 1: media members. Is the one time on the calendar where

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Speaker 1: you had everybody in the same city, same location, and

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Speaker 1: off the record conversations about what is about to happen,

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Speaker 1: what happened that we didn't know about, and all those things.

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Speaker 1: So I'm kind of sad for that, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just not the same. It's not the same without

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Speaker 1: every day, every day. Yeah, he's speaking for himself with

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Speaker 1: that point. Um, I once saw a JP eat an

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Speaker 1: it's it's uh conversed point though, Bucky, it's it's absolutely

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Speaker 1: true that this will be the first year I haven't

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Speaker 1: covered the combine I think since two thousand one actually

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Speaker 1: There's the element that you talked about, which is running

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Speaker 1: it's the icon tack that you get there. And uh,

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Speaker 1: this is where I like to go and stand around

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Speaker 1: if you can follow the bird droppings, they will tell you, hey, Okay,

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Speaker 1: this is what they were thinking about last year's season,

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Speaker 1: Have you talked to the brands? It's my pet peeve

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Speaker 1: every year, Buck, It drives me up the wall when

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Speaker 1: and that's what all missed the most. Bucky is rolling

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Speaker 1: Like center stage one, Trevor Lawrence would have been all

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Speaker 1: you talk about John, I feel bad because so much content,

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Speaker 1: Like you're a little wet. The website plans, the content

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Speaker 1: and now we're having to make it up as we go,

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Speaker 1: you know, of how Bucky just dismissed our little our

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Speaker 1: finally be robust. Thanks Bucky. Let's move along. That's Bucky

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Speaker 1: Brooks jottos. You're I'm j P Shadric Gaston Huddle Up podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can find out on Apple, iTunes or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcast. Let's get to the franchise tag window.

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Speaker 1: It opened Tuesday. It's a two week window through Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: March ninth. The name most associated with this around the Jaguars,

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Speaker 1: has been left tackled, Cam Robinson. The cost, Bucky is

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Speaker 1: what fourteen and a half million dollars? That would be

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Speaker 1: exclusive for a year. Could they transition tag in this timeframe?

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Speaker 1: benefit ourselves, you know? So I think it would behoove

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Speaker 1: big deal? Is that a million dollar deal? Is it

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Speaker 1: is to find that a little bit? No? I think

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a huge deal. And

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Speaker 1: I think in a perfect world, the backup quarterback that

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Speaker 1: you have for in a situation that Trevor is stepping

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Speaker 1: into is a guy who has started in the league

435
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Speaker 1: who no longer is that guy, but he's gone through

436
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Speaker 1: the process of being a starter, meaning he can help

437
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Speaker 1: Trevor set out his weekly preparation schedule. Hey Trevor, Hey,

438
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Speaker 1: I've been around some greats. Here's how I would prepare

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Speaker 1: for the week as a starter. You're on Tuesday, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Monday looks like this. My Tuesday's dad, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

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Speaker 1: Here's how we do a Here's some things that we

442
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Speaker 1: need to do after practice when it goes he's as

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Speaker 1: confident when they're going through things and practice and he

444
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Speaker 1: maybe a little sideways or he can't get it in.

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Speaker 1: The coach's voice doesn't necessarily reach him. He can turn

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Speaker 1: to the vet and the veteran can can give it

447
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Speaker 1: to him and maybe player the player terms that it clicks.

448
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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Colin Kaepernick both talked about Alex Smith

449
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Speaker 1: and how Man just how he helped both of those

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Speaker 1: guys become better players. And Patrick Mahomes really attributes a

451
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Speaker 1: lot of his success early in his career to what

452
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Speaker 1: Alex Smith was able to do setting that example and

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Speaker 1: do it and now it was different because Alex was

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Speaker 1: the starter and my homes was the young guy learning.

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Speaker 1: But what you would like is a veteran that can

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Speaker 1: give all of that to the young player, help him

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Speaker 1: along the way. It doesn't necessarily threaten him from a

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Speaker 1: playing standpoint, but he's there to kind of nurture him

459
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Speaker 1: and play a role in the process of helping the

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Speaker 1: quarterback kind of growing, developing, become the player that he

461
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Speaker 1: can become. At the end of year one and year

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Speaker 1: two and year three, Mark Brunell, the last what four

463
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Speaker 1: years or so of his career was was this. He

464
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Speaker 1: had his run as a starter here in Washington, and

465
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Speaker 1: then the last two teams he played for he was

466
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Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez is guy. Yeah, he's he's he's the backup.

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Speaker 1: He could do all of those things he learned the process.

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Speaker 1: I heard a lot about Chase Daniel and what Chase

469
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Speaker 1: Daniel was able to do with Carson Wentz early in

470
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Speaker 1: Philadelphia because Jay's Daniel was the backup to Drew Brees,

471
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Speaker 1: and so basically he took the formula that he learned

472
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Speaker 1: from Drew Brees in terms of their preparation plan and

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Speaker 1: all the other stuff, and he took it and used

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Speaker 1: it elsewhere. And so I think there's value to that.

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Speaker 1: He has to be the right guy. He has to

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Speaker 1: have the right temperament. I mean, he's another coach on

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Speaker 1: the field, but you certainly would hope that he also

478
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Speaker 1: can go out and play too. And so that's the

479
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: fine line because you get the guys who can tell

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Speaker 1: you everything off the board, but then Lauren behol they

481
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Speaker 1: gotta grab to help me and go in the field

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Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, no, that's not what you want

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Speaker 1: to look like. Yeah, so so man, it's that it's

484
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Speaker 1: that fine line. I do wonder how they do it

485
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Speaker 1: because you're looking at the offensive coordinator there are Bevill,

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Speaker 1: and then you're looking at Brian Schottenheimer. Is there someone

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Speaker 1: in their past that they're very, very comfortable with that

488
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Speaker 1: can can pass on the information, can help them learn

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Speaker 1: the offense and do those things? And when I look

490
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Speaker 1: behind Russell Wilson for the longest time, they didn't really

491
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Speaker 1: I mean it was a revolving door, like they had

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Speaker 1: young guys playing behind him. I don't know who they

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Speaker 1: Trusty Vett. Is that Bevill can bring over? Could Brett

494
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Speaker 1: Favan retired guy? I know, That's That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of somebody guys know, wonder maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: maybe shows up at practice every now and then with

497
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Speaker 1: the old ball cap and girls of period and all

498
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Speaker 1: that stuff. You know, you never know. This is the

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Speaker 1: Huddle Up Podcast. That's Bucky Brooks, John Osier. I'm JP

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Speaker 1: Shadrick and let's move along. Now your top five draft

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Speaker 1: prospects by position. But you just put out what your

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Speaker 1: second edition of these. You go every position group in

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Speaker 1: the draft. So today we'll start another weekly segment on

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Speaker 1: this podcast where we analyze one of your groups in

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Speaker 1: your latest top five. And today it's notable because there

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Speaker 1: were reports earlier this week that the Jaguars were not

507
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Speaker 1: going to take the option on tight end Tyler Effort.

508
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Speaker 1: So the Jaguars now will have on their roster Josh

509
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Speaker 1: Oliver with three career receptions, Eric Sobert with ten catches,

510
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Speaker 1: ben Ellepson one catch, and Tyler Davis. That's the tight

511
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Speaker 1: end room. So if they don't go in free agency,

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Speaker 1: or even if they do go in free agency, these

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Speaker 1: top five gentlemen in the hide in room will be

514
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Speaker 1: on the target list. I think, Bucky, who do you got,

515
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Speaker 1: oh man? You talk about tight end position? You know, JP,

516
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Speaker 1: if if not for taking the quarterback at number one.

517
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Speaker 1: If the Jaguars had their normal customary top ten pick,

518
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Speaker 1: Kyle piss would be all over. It is a number one,

519
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Speaker 1: not at number one, but if it was a top

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Speaker 1: ten pick, it was a top ten pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's yeah, he's one of the top five players in

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Speaker 1: this draft class. He's a mismatch option, so he's not

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Speaker 1: gonna be available for the jack So we're we thinking

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Speaker 1: first round, top of the second round. The two guys.

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Speaker 1: Pat Freemouth from Penn State is a guy, big body,

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Speaker 1: soft hands, is a great job of catching the ball

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Speaker 1: over the middle of field. Can do the things that

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Speaker 1: you would like to see done at the position. Hunter

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Speaker 1: Long from Boston College and like, maybe I'm dating myself

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Speaker 1: having played with Pete Mitchell the Boston College thing. I

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Speaker 1: just always think about Boston College tight ends, even though

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Speaker 1: Pete was like a little on the shorter stature, not

533
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Speaker 1: on the bigger statue. Hunter Long, how to Long is

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Speaker 1: the big body. He can post up over the middle

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Speaker 1: of field, he can put his hand in dirt and block.

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Speaker 1: For my has me a lot of Kyle Rudolph from

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Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. He's a very interesting guy, and you

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Speaker 1: think about in the thirties. I think that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the sweet spot top of the second somewhere in there.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Along could be one that we talked about. Breverend

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Speaker 1: Jordans was number four in your list. A lot of

542
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Speaker 1: Miami Buckey great athlete. Yeah, look, he's heard a lot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's banged up, he's injured a lot, but

544
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Speaker 1: from an athletic, sampoint, terrific athlete. And we've seen how

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Speaker 1: these athletes have been able to create problems. People are

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Speaker 1: looking at Travis Kelsey and Darren Waller and the problems

547
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Speaker 1: that they're able to give us. Kind of those jumble

548
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Speaker 1: size white House. He's not a stretch tight end. Mean,

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Speaker 1: he's not tall, but he is very athletic and fast,

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Speaker 1: just like Trey McKitty from Georgia, who doesn't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of numbers. Tray mckitty's numbers are not impressive, particularly

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Speaker 1: in Georgia, but when he showed up at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: you saw him move around similar. I think those two guys.

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Speaker 1: If you think about the Tennessee Titans John U. Smith,

555
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Speaker 1: those guys are in that that family more athletic pass catchers.

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Speaker 1: They kind of do it, maybe not be the the big,

557
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Speaker 1: nasty guys that can control the edge. But in the

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Speaker 1: passing game of the dangerous you know, Johnny. It feels

559
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Speaker 1: to me that just watching Kyle Pitts a bunch this year.

560
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Speaker 1: He was out one of the games I called, but

561
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Speaker 1: he came back with three touchdowns against Kentucky in late November.

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Speaker 1: He feels like a big wide receiver. It's not like

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Speaker 1: he's your you know, old school two hundred and sixty

564
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Speaker 1: pounds tied end. It's gonna block everybody he can if

565
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Speaker 1: you guys, if he has to, but you can line

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Speaker 1: him up anywhere on the field, line him up out

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Speaker 1: wide against the corner inside, and those guys, john are

568
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Speaker 1: hard to find. Is he a tight end? Is he

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Speaker 1: a big wide receiver? I guess he's a tight end.

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Speaker 1: So if you have a chance to trade up, then

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Speaker 1: maybe you go up and go after that. If I

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Speaker 1: was a GM, which everybody's thankful that I'm not, But

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Speaker 1: if I was a GM, there is no position that

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Speaker 1: would give me more pause, more ant, more sleepless nights.

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Speaker 1: Been tight end. They're never available through free agency, meaning

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Speaker 1: teams never give him up if there are any good

577
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Speaker 1: and there's so hard to find it. Even guys who

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Speaker 1: you think are dead solid blocks to be good. You

579
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Speaker 1: don't usually find the great ones in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey wasn't a first rounder. Uh, the kid from Seattle,

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Speaker 1: Kittle wasn't the first rounder. It's not like just because

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Speaker 1: you target a guy in the draft and I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: pick him high. I guess Hockinson's okay, but he hasn't

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Speaker 1: let the world on fire yet. It is the hardest

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Speaker 1: position to find, as evidence by the fact that Jaguar

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Speaker 1: has never really had one Sadies Lewis who played at

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Speaker 1: a high level. But it's brutal trying to find these guys.

588
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Speaker 1: And I think you almost have to get lucky sometimes.

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Speaker 1: I see, I know what it is, John, I know what.

590
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: You're scored by Julian Thomas. That's what happened. You're scared

591
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: by the you're all you scored, You scored by Julie Thoms.

592
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: He comes back, Thomas, he comes over, he comes over,

593
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: and he just he just doesn't live up to the hype.

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Speaker 1: And that's and that's what it is. Former basketball player.

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Speaker 1: We've seen all these other basketball players, Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez. Oh,

596
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: we got the guys gon to mismatch Nightmare and he

597
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: comes to do Vall and he's a dud. So let's

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Speaker 1: not I'm scarred by I'm scarred by Austin Safari and Jenkins.

599
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Speaker 1: I'm scarred by Julius Thomas. I'm scarred by everybody who

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Speaker 1: come in. This team has had a brutal time find

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Speaker 1: Kelsey and Kittle to me, are the are the two

602
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Speaker 1: premium examples. These guys weren't supposed to be this. It's

603
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: almost like you've got to be a you know, every

604
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Speaker 1: GM has to have incredible seeing powers. But at that position,

605
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: especially the top ten guys don't always work out, and

606
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: it's often the later guys who wind up being great.

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Speaker 1: Nobody predicted Antonio Gates, nobody predicted. The best guys are

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Speaker 1: the guys that nobody predicted, because I'm not sure that

609
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: it translates that well from college to the NFL. You've

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Speaker 1: almost got to be blessed with this skill set and

611
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Speaker 1: then developed once you're here. Yeah, it's it's different as real.

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Speaker 1: Tricky position. Is interesting that you brought up George Kittle

613
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Speaker 1: because Kittle is half offensive tackle half wide receiver, like

614
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Speaker 1: he is the best blocker at the position. Um does

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Speaker 1: a great job of dominating the run game, but he

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Speaker 1: also has the ability. Yeah, he also has the ability

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Speaker 1: to catch the ball and make things happen. And so

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Speaker 1: it is a very very unique position. One of the

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Speaker 1: reasons why you've seen basketball players have success at the

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Speaker 1: tight end position because it's very much like posting up,

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Speaker 1: you know, posting up getting points in the paint. And

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Speaker 1: it's hard because I think the other thing that is

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Speaker 1: lost in this does your offensive coordinator understand how to

624
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: design plays for the tight end to get open? You know,

625
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: like that is the thing. Some guys don't have it

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Speaker 1: in their playbook. What are my tight end plays? How

627
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Speaker 1: do I get my tight end open? And when you

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Speaker 1: look at Darren Waller, who was a wide receiver at

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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech, goes to Baltimore, nonscript player, doesn't do anything,

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Speaker 1: goes to the Raiders and becomes a Pro Bowl caliber

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Speaker 1: tight end because John Gruten figures out a way to

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Speaker 1: create opportunities in the passing game. I think that would

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00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: be an interesting thing to look at Bevil and Shodeheimer

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Speaker 1: and see have those guys ever been able to get

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00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: a tight end loose in the passing game? And I

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Speaker 1: can't say that I ever remember Seattle having a high

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00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: end tight end that was very productive, And I don't

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Speaker 1: know if Schodenheimer's ever had a high end a big

639
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: time tight end flourished on his tutelage. Well, there you go.

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Speaker 1: There's our look at the top five tight end draft

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Speaker 1: prospects for the one NFL Draft, a weekly feature of

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Speaker 1: Huddle Up. Will go look at Bucky's work on NFL

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Speaker 1: dot com and then how about that re recycle it?

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Speaker 1: So remember that cross coming up this week three weeks

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Speaker 1: until free agency now and we'll have Jaguars Happy our

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Speaker 1: radio Thursday and the Jaguars broadcast. We can review podcast Friday.

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Speaker 1: O Zone, do you have a podcast this week? And

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Speaker 1: who might have guessed be it might be Uh, Bucky's

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Speaker 1: colleague the NFL Networks, Steve wish Old, friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: We covered the University of Florida together back in nine

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Speaker 1: and ninety four before a couple of years before I

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Speaker 1: met a young athletic Bucky Brooks. So Steve was great.

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Speaker 1: I talked to him Tuesday and I will be running

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Speaker 1: that out on Wednesday, and UH a lot of insight

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Speaker 1: into the National Football League and the Jaguars I will

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Speaker 1: not tell you what great I was in Bucky. What

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Speaker 1: do you have this week? Man? Just just more digging

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Speaker 1: into the dive, like to dive at these prospects. There's

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Speaker 1: so many names that you're trying to familiarize yourself with,

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Speaker 1: trying to separate these guys. Right now, we're in the

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Speaker 1: cluster buster part where you get all these guys that

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Speaker 1: are similarly graded, trying to figure out who deserves to

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Speaker 1: go on top of whom in terms of the order

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Speaker 1: and without the combine no combine JP trying to figure

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Speaker 1: it out off tape challenge. Did you create that cluster

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Speaker 1: say that. I know, I'm sure I'll swiped it from somebody,

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Speaker 1: Like we all this recycling stuff. I'm sure I swiped

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Speaker 1: time I've heard that. That's pretty good. Let's catching. But

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Speaker 1: it makes sense. All these guys are in the cluster

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Speaker 1: you try to come up and see who. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: gotta sort of sort them out and seem at some

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Speaker 1: point you gotta's right, that's what That's what Tramp and

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Speaker 1: the guys are doing right now. The end of him

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Speaker 1: having the meetings trying to figure out, Hey, how do

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Speaker 1: we start the board? I love it. John. Will look

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Speaker 1: forward to your podcast coming up with Steve White Chaw Bucky.

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Speaker 1: Always great to see you and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: again next week. And for our entire crew, I'm JP

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