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Speaker 1: on this uh June first day, June nine. Uh, summer

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Speaker 1: is upon us and I'm coming from you from an

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Speaker 1: undisclosed location in Scottsdale, Arizona, where summer is definitely here,

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Speaker 1: supposed to be high as this weekend of one fourteen.

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Speaker 1: So uh, I'm ready to sweat. And when you're a

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Speaker 1: bald guy, you sweat a lot. So uh the Bald Brotherhood,

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Speaker 1: you guys, anyone listening can relate. You know when we

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Speaker 1: our face. Um. I love this time of year, love

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Speaker 1: Everyone's doing good, getting ready for the weekend. Uh some

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Speaker 1: football stuff. We're basically have about five six more days.

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Speaker 1: Some teams are gonna practice next week for their mandatory minicamp.

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Speaker 1: about being in the NFL summer break. It's like high school, baby,

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Speaker 1: it's like junior high. It's like elementary. You get forty

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Speaker 1: you know, I've never played in college football, didn't play

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Speaker 1: That's something to keep an eye on. But a lot

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Speaker 1: one guy, one girl, Zeke Elliott and a girl, Roethlisberg

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Speaker 1: and a girl, Kobe and a girl, and it was

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Speaker 1: these things get ugly and when they're guilty, I think

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Speaker 1: they're the ultimate scumbacks. I said it forever. If you

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Speaker 1: sexually assault a woman, go to fucking jail. And I said,

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Speaker 1: on the flip side, if you make it up as

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Speaker 1: a woman, you deserve to go to jail. But for

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Speaker 1: the most part, these situations that we have talked about

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Speaker 1: over the year, they've been black and white in the

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Speaker 1: sense of it's been a woman verse a guy, a

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Speaker 1: football player versus versus a lady, a female a woman,

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Speaker 1: and it's just we don't know. It's just to this

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Speaker 1: is sixty six women. This guy was running a sexual

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Speaker 1: scam to meet women. Now they've some of these women

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Speaker 1: consensual sex for sure, But you cannot convince me. Just humans,

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00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: like I said, dated a lot of women. Not everyone

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Speaker 1: moves at the same pace, not everyone has the same personality.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone is as open. It's pretty clear like you

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Speaker 1: you would have to live under a rock to not go, yeah,

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Speaker 1: something probably happened. I mean, let's let's just be real

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Speaker 1: on this one. And getting back to Roger Goodell, I've

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00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: said forever just spending for a year. Who cares? Who's

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Speaker 1: gonna defend him? When this information comes out, it's like

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Speaker 1: you're getting indefinitely suspended. Why would you want him in

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Speaker 1: your league until this is cleared up, And honestly, it

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00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it's getting cleared up any time soon,

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00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: because every freaking day it feels like someone is at it,

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Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, I can't look at this guy anymore.

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Speaker 1: And you know me, I am not some moral high

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Speaker 1: horse guy. I'm not a big j I don't try

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Speaker 1: to act like that, you know, I'm that is not

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Speaker 1: my personality. I think this guy is a walking, talking

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Speaker 1: red flag. And it shows you. The Browns, who are

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Speaker 1: just the ultimate desperate franchise who ironically had the train

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Speaker 1: on the tracks a couple of years ago, had an

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Speaker 1: incredible season. They won a playoff game on the road

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Speaker 1: against a division rival. They beat the Pittsburgh Steelers. Now

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Speaker 1: that year was weird. There weren't fans, it was not normal,

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Speaker 1: but still that was an incredible accomplishment to get to

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Speaker 1: the second round of the playoffs their number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: who was a quarterback. Will clearly things fell off the

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Speaker 1: rails this year. They do not like Baker Mayfield, who

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Speaker 1: was also a toxic, walking, talking red flag for conspletely

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Speaker 1: different reason to Sean Watson, but no one will touch him. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: The reason the Browns and all these other teams were

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Speaker 1: interested in too Sean because he's really good. But here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. The Browns were the only team to meet

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Speaker 1: these crazy demands of a fully guaranteed contract. And honestly,

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Speaker 1: they may get bailed out if Deshan gets in serious

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Speaker 1: trouble and the league basically boots him, because honestly, how

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Speaker 1: could you not think that's on the table. And I

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Speaker 1: would say in a lot of these situations, we've seen

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys come back. They did not have

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Speaker 1: this situation of twenty four women in a lawsuit of

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Speaker 1: sixties six massaw massage therapists. Massage therapist like this guy

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Speaker 1: was the Bernie made off of sexual massage therapist scams.

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Speaker 1: That's what this guy was doing, and he's been exploited now.

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Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is from everyone that's ever talked

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Speaker 1: about him, good looking guy, star quarterback, everyone loved him.

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Speaker 1: Why did he have to resort to this? Is he

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Speaker 1: a weirdo, a whack job, a criminal? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I think it's all on the table right now. And

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Speaker 1: and I again, if Roger Goodell wants to truly drop

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Speaker 1: the hammer that the PGA tour tried today with the

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Speaker 1: live guy suspended them forever that why wouldn't you do that?

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Speaker 1: And if it comes out this is one of the

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Speaker 1: greatest collusions of women getting together trying to exploit DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Watson for life or for money. You can pivot, but

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Speaker 1: it's sure as hell does not feel like that's where

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Speaker 1: we're headed, does it. Well, let's let's just fire around

496
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Speaker 1: the NFL. It's it's weird to transition from Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 1: to normal topics. But speaking of you know, Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: Someone on Instagram was like your take on Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: and posting pics of drinking. I didn't have a take.

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Speaker 1: I simply said if I was advising Baker Mayfield, I

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Speaker 1: would tell them under no circumstances when the entire league

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Speaker 1: thinks you're untouchable, toxic, not worthy of trading for. I

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Speaker 1: would not be posting any pictures in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the week of you drinking. I'm not anti drinking. If

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this on Friday, I'm probably hungover. Going

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Speaker 1: out tonight on Thursday to a dinner, Gonna have some drinks,

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Speaker 1: gonna have some cocktails, some wine, some tequila, some vodka.

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Speaker 1: I am pro having a good time. I'm also pro

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Speaker 1: using my head. I'm not a quarterback that no team.

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Speaker 1: This isn't some random quarterback. This isn't Nick Mullins or

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Speaker 1: Trevor Simeons. This guy was the number one overall pick

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Speaker 1: in the NFL who led the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: and now it's like will he makes eighteen eighteen million dollars.

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Speaker 1: There are six quarterbacks in the league that make over

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00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: forty a ton of quarterbacks making the thirties. Jimmy Garoppolo

516
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: makes eighteens. Nothing. No one will touch the guy. He's untouchable.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't know the guy, but

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Speaker 1: that's a fact. They had the opportunity for months now

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00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: to trade for him before the draft, and no one would.

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00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: The league thinks the guy's toxic. Again, not in a

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson terms, but his teammates didn't like him. His

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00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: team didn't like him. They were out on the guy.

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Speaker 1: And if I was Baker Mayfield, I've said over and

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Speaker 1: over lay Low, I, I don't need you. Don't have

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Speaker 1: to fake it in post pictures of your working out,

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Speaker 1: which I'm sure he is, but do not post pictures

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Speaker 1: of you drinking. I know these gms, like I could

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Speaker 1: get eight of them on the phone right now. I

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Speaker 1: know the way they think. They look at that stuff,

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Speaker 1: and it turns them off. Most of them drink. It's

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Speaker 1: not about having a corpse light in your hand. It's

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00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 1: about like, does this guy get it? And the simple

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Speaker 1: answer in the league they believe he does not, because

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Speaker 1: if he did, he'd be on another team. As simple

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Speaker 1: as that too. I wasn't trying to be like some

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Speaker 1: you know, act like I'm better in you shouldn't be party.

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Speaker 1: That's not what my take was at all. It was like,

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Speaker 1: bro have a clue, lay Low. One thing I saw

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels, the new head coach of the almost at

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Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, the loss of Vegas Raiders. Um, they've had

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Speaker 1: mandatory minicamp this week, and they have a set up

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00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: most teams do of like several fields. And the reason

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Speaker 1: you have several fields and a lot of teams that

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00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: have grass fields is so you can wrote hate. It's

545
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: like a driving range, right. You don't hit on the

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00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: driving range the same place. If you use grass for

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00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: two straight weeks, you rotate because the grass gets torn up.

548
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: It's no different football. You tear up certain grass like

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00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: you couldn't have the offensive lineman in the same area.

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00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: If you're using grass every single day all season, you

551
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: gotta rotate. Well, a lot of these and I've been

552
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: going to practices now for well over a decade. Most

553
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: of these teams move around throughout the days, but they

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00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: have areas where the media can stand and I said, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm I talked about Josh early this week. I'm excited

556
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Speaker 1: to watch him coach, and he's talked openly about how

557
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna be his own guy. He's gonna be different

558
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: than Bill and he's not gonna be an imitator like

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00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: he was last time, and most of Belichick's guys have

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00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: been over the years. He's gonna be true to himself,

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Speaker 1: and the first couple of days of practice, Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 1: put the team on three football fields away from the media.

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00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: It's open practice again. You're just throwing routes on air,

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00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 1: you're running basic plays. There are no secrets happening. But

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00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: he put the team hundred and fifty yards away from

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Speaker 1: the media and didn't allow them to see a thing. Again.

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Speaker 1: I was just at practice the last couple of days.

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00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan just practices normally. I'm two feet away from

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Speaker 1: team drills. If I want to be, it's there. There

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00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: are no secrets. Josh McDaniels. I'm not saying I'm red

571
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: flagging this, but it is something to keep an eye on.

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00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: That's a Belichick move. My question would be, why in

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Speaker 1: the world are you worried and thinking because he you'd

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00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: have to think about this because you mandate where they

575
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: can stand and where they can't stand, and he only

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Speaker 1: allowed him to stand a place. That's a Belichick type move,

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Speaker 1: and that's the type thing like, are you really your

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00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 1: own guy or are you at your core just a

579
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: created assistant coach by Bill Now. I think he knows

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Speaker 1: X's knows he's been a really good offensive coordinator over

581
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: the years. But that is something that's a little concerning

582
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: to me because any times that I should see signs

583
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: of the Belichick guys doing what Belichick would do, not

584
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: on game day, but like in the middle of June,

585
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: and is Billy even doing that in New England? Like,

586
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: come on, man, just stop worrying about things that do

587
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 1: not matter. Belichick guys always worry about things that do

588
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: not matter. They spend because you have to spend effort

589
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: thinking about that. It takes energy to do that, and

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00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man, It's something to keep

591
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: an eye on. Aaron Rodgers, who I've said over and over,

592
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: can we stop talking about retirement? He just took a

593
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars. It really is exhausting, Like,

594
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: just just play football now. Granted, in fairness to him,

595
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: he's being asked about this some of the time, but

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00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: I just I can't take it much more. Now. He

597
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 1: did say that he plans on retiring, and I think

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00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: he will retire as a Green Bay Packer. You'd be like, well, yeah,

599
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: they're give him a hundre fifty million dollars making fifty

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00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,959
Speaker 1: million dollars a year for the next three years. But

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00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: if I was a Packer fan and listen, I I

602
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 1: enjoy watching Aaron Rodgers. I really do. He is He's

603
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: my l way, He's my Marino, just freak talent whose elite.

604
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: Now he may end up with one super Bowl, you know,

605
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: he's just which is crazy because to me he is

606
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: the most physically gifted guy of his generation. Tom's the

607
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: best player, but Tom can't do things Aaron could do.

608
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning can't do things Drew brees that they couldn't

609
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: do things that Aaron can do. Aaron is incredible watch

610
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: and he dominates, but he leaves a little something to

611
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: be desired in the playoffs. I'm not arguing that, but

612
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: here's a simple reality. If I'm a Packer fan, every

613
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: because this guy is liable to quit at any moment,

614
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: like after this season. If for some reason you went

615
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: like nine and eight, missed the playoffs, who knows, maybe

616
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Speaker 1: he walks away. I would enjoy every snap because the

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00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: next couple of years are not guaranteed with the guy.

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00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: And as you saw with Jordan Love and it's just

619
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Speaker 1: this one outing like you ain't gonna win with the

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00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: Jordan love now your division socks, and maybe your team

621
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: would be good enough to compete for like eight nine

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00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: wins of Jordan loves your quarterback, but probably not like

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Speaker 1: you've had arguably the greatest run we've ever seen, not

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00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: from a super Bowl standpoint, but just quarterback play. Thirty

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00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: years of Brett Farvan, Aaron Rodgers, and actually I think

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00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: it's more than that because far got there, what ninety three? Yeah,

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00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: I guess it's thirty years because you're gonna have thirty

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00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: years of the two guys, and maybe a little more

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Speaker 1: if Aaron plays out this contract. But it's gonna end,

630
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: like we can see the the end is in sight now.

631
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: And as as just a lover of high end talent.

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00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: The reason I watched pro sports, I've said over and

633
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: over is to watch Barry Bonds. Is to watch Tiger Woods,

634
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 1: is to watch Steph Curry, is to watch Aaron Rodgers.

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00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: I don't watch the NFL for undrafted free agents. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you become a great players an undrafted free agent,

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Speaker 1: I enjoy watching you. But I watched football. I watched

638
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Speaker 1: all these pro sports for the stars. I like watching

639
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Speaker 1: the Yankees because they have Aaron Judge. If they had Randell's,

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Speaker 1: I would not care. So enjoy this guy. Man he

641
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Speaker 1: is he's I mean, listen, the best player in the

642
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Speaker 1: history your franchise with Brett Farve, and this guy is better. Clearly,

643
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Speaker 1: the Steelers are like big on these hold ins, which

644
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Speaker 1: is smart. I've said over and over. If I was

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Speaker 1: representing Deebo Samuel, Lamar Jackson, Minca Fitzpatrick, you would go

646
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Speaker 1: to mandatory mini camp because I wouldn't want you to

647
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Speaker 1: get fined. But under no circumstances would you take a

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Speaker 1: snap as an all pro elite player When it's contract time.

649
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Speaker 1: We We're done taking snaps now, I say it over

650
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Speaker 1: and over. Part of football you can get hurt doing squats.

651
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Speaker 1: You can get hurt sprinting with your trainer, let alone,

652
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Speaker 1: in training camp and obviously in a game. But I

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Speaker 1: will take a zero, zero, zero risk at one of

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Speaker 1: these o t a s or training camp until I

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Speaker 1: put pen to paper. So if I'm Deebo Samuel, if

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Speaker 1: I'm Minca, I do this hold in. I I take

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Speaker 1: no snaps until I get my new contract, which is inevitable. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Minca Fitzpatrick, who has become a star defensive back in

659
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Speaker 1: the in the league who they traded a first round

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Speaker 1: pick four is going to get extended. But as you

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Speaker 1: saw last year with j. J. Watts brother, t J.

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Speaker 1: Actually it's unfair to call him j J. Watts brother.

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Speaker 1: He's t J. Watt. He's an elite player, held in

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Speaker 1: and got his money and that's the right move. And

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, they're old school that this is not the

666
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: Sacramento Kings is given away free money. The NFL is

667
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Speaker 1: a tough negotiating business, as any business that's successful should be.

668
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: You don't just hand out cash, even to highly valued employees.

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Speaker 1: You negotiate, and part of negotiating is this and this

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Speaker 1: is a way as a player to gain a little

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Speaker 1: negotiating leverage. Don't practice. Uh. Lamar Jackson falls under that category.

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Speaker 1: To John Harbaugh, who I think spoke earlier this week,

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Speaker 1: their mandatory minicamps are next week, said that that Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson will be at mandatory manicamp and I would recommend,

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Speaker 1: and I know he doesn't have an agent, but if

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Speaker 1: I was his friend, I would say, under no circumstances

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Speaker 1: are we taking one snap under center? And it's hard.

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Speaker 1: I mean I saw it. I a debo like Itchen

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Speaker 1: to get involved. He had his gloves on, he has

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Speaker 1: cleats on, and he didn't have like a jersey on,

681
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Speaker 1: but you could tell like he wanted when you love football,

682
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Speaker 1: what do you love doing something? If you just put

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Speaker 1: a mic in, a in a recorder and a computer

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Speaker 1: in front of my mind, in front of my face,

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Speaker 1: I wanted podcast. I got takes. You know, this is

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Speaker 1: what I do. If you're a salesman, you like to sell,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're good at it. If you're in

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Speaker 1: real estate, like you want to flip homes, if if

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Speaker 1: you're a stockbroker, you want to make some cash. Like,

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Speaker 1: once we get good at something, it's enjoyable to do it.

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Speaker 1: Because once you get good at something, especially most industries,

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Speaker 1: you make money doing that and it's you enjoy the

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Speaker 1: process of doing it. And football is no different with

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Speaker 1: the high end players that love ball. And it would

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Speaker 1: be very very difficult to just stand there if you're

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, But that's what he has to do because

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Speaker 1: can you imagine him tearing a a c L, tearing

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Speaker 1: an achilles, even getting stepped on, like breaking a leg.

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Speaker 1: It is not worth it when you're talking the amount

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Speaker 1: of money that's on the line. We're not talking ten

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Speaker 1: me million dollars. We're not talking thirty million dollars. We're

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Speaker 1: talking a hundred and fifty plus million dollars in guaranteed cash.

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott got a hundred and sixty guaranteed a couple

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Speaker 1: of years ago or last year, forty a year. We'd

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Speaker 1: all take Lamar Jackson over Dak Prescott. I know that

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Speaker 1: for a fact. So if you're Lamar Jackson, you can't

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Speaker 1: even if you end up quote unquote taking a you know,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say team friendly, but just one that Lamar

709
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Speaker 1: is gonna get paid no matter what. But a deal

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Speaker 1: that both sides feel good about, you just can't do it.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just not worth the risk. I think we

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Speaker 1: talked about a couple of weeks ago, the uh, the

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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos sale, and listen, the market. Let's face it,

714
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Speaker 1: the real estate market is slowing down as it should

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Speaker 1: have been. It was beyond inflated. It got ridiculous, and

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Speaker 1: it got crazy over the last eighteen months. It's I

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00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 1: wouldn't coming to a screeching halt, but I'm sitting in

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Speaker 1: Scottsdale right now, and it's it's they're hitting the brakes.

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Speaker 1: I'm seeing the bay areas slowing down, which is which

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Speaker 1: is inevitable. Right, Everything goes up then it comes down

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Speaker 1: in the history of recessions of real estate of any commodity, right.

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Speaker 1: But the one thing that has just gone up, up, up,

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Speaker 1: up and up more has been NFL teams. There has

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Speaker 1: been no coming down. It's only gone up. And the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It's not a true Like when you put a house

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Speaker 1: on the market, you can technically sell it to anyone

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Speaker 1: who wants to buy it. That's not the way the

728
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Speaker 1: NFL works. When the Denver Broncos went on the market,

729
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Speaker 1: they did not really go on the open market because

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Speaker 1: they were gonna pick who was going to join the

731
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Speaker 1: NFL country Club. They were not going to give it

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Speaker 1: away to someone they didn't want inside the club. The Waltons,

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Speaker 1: who have several kids who were in like the top

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Speaker 1: thirty of richest people in America, own a ton of

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Speaker 1: land all over this country. Guess what a lot of

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Speaker 1: NFL owners do. They have other businesses? You know, they

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Speaker 1: probably we want to be associated with talk with do

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Speaker 1: deals with? Are the Waltons. I don't think this was random. Now,

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Speaker 1: they didn't give the guy a deal. He paid four

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Speaker 1: point six five billion dollars, a record for an American

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Speaker 1: sports franchise. I don't care that that's an astronomical amount

742
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Speaker 1: of money. When you see that the Denver Broncos are

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Speaker 1: worth four point six five, I go, what will the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys be worth? What would the Lakers be worth? What

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00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: would the Yankees be worth? Eight? I mean, seriously, that's

746
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Speaker 1: what What are those franchises worth? And the Denver Broncos

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00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: is an elite franchise in an elite city, with a

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Speaker 1: ton of history, a ton of brand recognition, and a

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Speaker 1: huge fan base. But four point six five billion dollars

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Speaker 1: they should go for way more than Temper paid for

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Speaker 1: the the Panthers. But double Temper paid two point two

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00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: So they just got more than double what the Panther

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00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: sold for. And we're not talking like, well double it

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00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: was worth eight and got one point six million dollars.

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00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: We're talking billions, multiple billions. More So this situation, they

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Speaker 1: wanted the Waldens involved. The Waltons have the unlimited amount

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Speaker 1: of cash, and I think this was a strategic move

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00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: by the owners to get this family involved in their league.

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00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 1: It's like, just because you're super rich, and you love

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Speaker 1: golf does not mean that you can get into Augusta.

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Speaker 1: When I went and played l A Country Club, they

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Speaker 1: don't let actors in. They don't want Hollywood people in.

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Speaker 1: The only members at l A Country Club are businessmen,

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Speaker 1: are finance people, are real estate and bankers. They don't

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Speaker 1: like everyone else is a member at RIV and uh

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Speaker 1: some other country club bel air that the l A

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Speaker 1: Country Clubs is. No, it's not about how much money

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Speaker 1: you have. Monterey Peninsula Country Club, same thing. There are

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Speaker 1: a lot of rich people that want to join. They

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Speaker 1: say no, that that's what the uh you know, that's

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Speaker 1: what these private kind of things are are about. And

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Speaker 1: I would imagine that the top five or six heavy

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Speaker 1: hitting owners in the NFL, and also Roger Jerry, Robert Cronky,

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00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: the Glazier family, uh, the Maras like they wanted these

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Speaker 1: guys in the league because there were there are other

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Speaker 1: people that could afford it. And I'm sure they were very,

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Speaker 1: very interested. But it's not about that. It's about who

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Speaker 1: they want in their club. It's about who they want

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Speaker 1: in that convention center when they're at Arizona or Dallas

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Speaker 1: or whatever for the owners meetings, and there are thirty

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Speaker 1: two men sitting in that room. They have to watch

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Speaker 1: you in that room because there's a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that want to be in that room and would have

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Speaker 1: the finances to get involved, but they don't want you,

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Speaker 1: you know. Um. Last, but not least, Kyle Shanahan said

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Speaker 1: that Nick Bosa, they haven't even started discussing a contract

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Speaker 1: with him, And if I was Nick Bosa, I would

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Speaker 1: recommend playing this year out because and I think he's

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Speaker 1: prepared to do that. He's only in his third year

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, going into his I guess this is

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00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: gonna be his fourth season, so he's he's he's done

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00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: with this is three years on his rookie contract. He's

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00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: contract eligible. But if he has another massive season and

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00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: it's another all Pro right now, he get a hundred

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Speaker 1: ten million dollars and twenty eight million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: He has another sixteen seventeen sacks and it's clear that him,

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00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Miles Garrett are the best defensive players in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. We're talking thirty three thirty four million dollars.

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Speaker 1: We're talking a hundred and thirty hundred forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: of guaranteed money. We are talking a historic deal. So

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Speaker 1: I while it's risky because any time that I remember

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Speaker 1: Cole Hamill's when I lived in the with in Philly,

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Speaker 1: when I was working for the Eagles, they were gonna

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Speaker 1: offer him like a hundred and twenty million dollars before

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00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: his last season on his contract, and people are like, well,

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Speaker 1: if he plays it out, he'd get like two hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars. And I remember being on the radio or

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Speaker 1: here in Jason Starker, Peter Gammon's or just maybe it

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00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: was like a Steve Phillips type who just said, have

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Speaker 1: you ever got a piece of paper in front of

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Speaker 1: you that said a hundred million dollars and not signed it?

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00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: I give Aaron Judge a lot of credit. The Yankees

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00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: offered Aaron Judge two hundred and fifteen million dollars. He said,

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Speaker 1: kick rocks. He's having his best season as a pro

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Speaker 1: and he's gonna get like three million dollars. That's he

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00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: took a huge risk and it's paying off. It's working.

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00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: But if I was Nick Bosa, now, the risk is

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Speaker 1: he got hurt in high school, he got hurt in college,

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Speaker 1: and he got hurt in the pros and he plays

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Speaker 1: he's in the trenches, so you can get injured and

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Speaker 1: his family, I would just say, in general, has a

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Speaker 1: history of being injured. So if the Niners, who it,

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00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: doesn't behoove them, like we just wait, let the cap

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Speaker 1: go up. What's the rush. He's only going into his

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00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 1: fourth year. You have him in a contract for two

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Speaker 1: more years. But they've always been a forward thinking organization

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Speaker 1: that you sign him now, you do get him for cheaper,

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Speaker 1: get him for twenty eight million dollars instead of thirty

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Speaker 1: three and obviously maybe twenty million dollars less guaranteed cash.

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Speaker 1: What if he's the Defensive Player of the Year this year?

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Speaker 1: What if he's you know, honestly, I mean that's basically

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Speaker 1: like winning the MVP as a defensive player. So it

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00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: could cost them a lot of money, but I do

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Speaker 1: think for both sides it's probably the right move. Uh.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a Middlecoff mail bag coming out this weekend

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Speaker 1: at John middlecoff as the Instagram at John middlecoff as

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Speaker 1: the Instagram firing those direct messages, get your question answer

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Speaker 1: here on the show, and UH, have a good weekend.

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Speaker 1: UH enjoy talking to you. I hope you enjoy listening

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