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Speaker 1: be blinding. There is one moment where she basically she says, like,

427
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,240
Speaker 1: can you back up? I'm scared because there was two

428
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 1: paparazzi fighting, So like it's intense to watch from I

429
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: think we like think about it is. And I also

430
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 1: think paparazzi has died down a little bit since social

431
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 1: media has picked up so much. But like the intensity

432
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 1: of those moments and trying to walk through while the

433
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: paparazzi is flashing like crazy is scary. Certain some of

434
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 1: those pictures sold for millions of dollars. There's a guy

435
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,480
Speaker 1: named Britton Stone who was the photo editor of um

436
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: Us Weekly for like ten years, is in the documentary

437
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: and he said, like every week his photo budget was

438
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,920
Speaker 1: a hundred and forty dollars. So you add that up

439
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: over the years that he was there, and he's like,

440
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: I spent millions on photos and the more candidate was

441
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 1: the better. Well that's why the guy who got her,

442
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,800
Speaker 1: the guy who got her with the umbrella coming after

443
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: his car. I mean he was like, yeah, like you

444
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: kind of are like, oh god, she's breaking down. But

445
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: then you're also like, well, there's my pay check. Well,

446
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: and here's some context that I did not know about

447
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,679
Speaker 1: that night. So that night she she was riding in

448
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,600
Speaker 1: the car of her cousin Ali. They had gone, who

449
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,360
Speaker 1: also went to l s U by the way, there

450
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: you go. Um. Kevin Federline had her ex husband and

451
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: father of her kids, had had custody, has like physical

452
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: custody of the kids, and she doesn't have visitation. She

453
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: had gone to his house and rung the doorbell begging

454
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: him to see her kids. Refused, and in that a

455
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: paparazzi spotted her and called this guy, I think his

456
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: name was Carlos called him and said, hey, I'm trailing

457
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: Britney Spears. It's just me, grab your camera, come here.

458
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 1: She went to a mobile gas station um to get gas.

459
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: The cousin goes into pay and the um that's when

460
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: the paparazzi, the couple of people like start like taking

461
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: photos of her, and she gets out of the car

462
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: and loses it because like in that moment, she is

463
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,919
Speaker 1: at her rock bottom, like her husband, her ex husband

464
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: will not let her see her children, and she I

465
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,639
Speaker 1: think maybe at that point she'd gone back again and

466
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: tried and he still wouldn't let her. So she was

467
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 1: like at the end of her rope. Um, Oh yeah,

468
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 1: because the incident happened behind a Jiffy Loup. Yeah, so

469
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 1: from the mobile gas stition, they followed her to Kevin's

470
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: again he still wouldn't let her in. Then she went

471
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: behind a Jiffy Lube and that's where she like pulled

472
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 1: out the umbrella and lost it all. I mean, I

473
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: have said this since that actually happened, but like I

474
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 1: feel it even more after watching this documentary, I could

475
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: totally see myself doing that exact thing, what like it

476
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,880
Speaker 1: was her only course of action. She didn't hurt anybody,

477
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 1: but he put a couple of deaths in a car. Yes,

478
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: if you've been pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed

479
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: and like they're still doing it right in your face

480
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: and like it's a bad catch her on a bad day,

481
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: Like it's so stressful, and so you just I can't.

482
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: I totally would be like just or here's what it

483
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: feels like, would be what I would be thinking, or

484
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 1: like how do you feel if I do this to you?

485
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: Or like let me give you something you want something

486
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: to write about? Here you go right, Like I can't

487
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: remember when I was a kid, like if I really

488
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 1: wanted to annoy my sister, like I just wouldn't leave

489
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 1: her alone, you know, I'd be like, hey, hey, because

490
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,000
Speaker 1: you get to there breaking her Yeah, like and that's

491
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: what that is. But they have the statement poked the bear, right,

492
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: That's what it That's exactly what that is. It's like

493
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: this poor woman is literally at her lowest point in

494
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,959
Speaker 1: her life and you're gonna put a camera in her

495
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: face and be like, hey, do you want to talk

496
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: about it? Yeah? Like man, like I want to talk

497
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: to my kids, right, um, you know this the whole

498
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: thing is what's fascinating, Like, I, um, what what's interesting?

499
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: So the conservatorship, So that's what it's really about. It

500
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: really gets to like the fact that her dad is

501
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: still in control of the conservatorship which he's got. He's

502
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: not in control now of her person. I think wasn't

503
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 1: that what it was called? He was in control of

504
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: her person? She is now, she asked, Um, she is?

505
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: They're fighting in court? Obviously. I think there's a court

506
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: date today. I swear to God February there is. Um,

507
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: the timing would be perfect. She um. He is now

508
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: no longer in control of her person. And there's a

509
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: co conservator. That's the bank that is helping with the finances,

510
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: which she was had to fight to get, had to

511
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: fight on her dad off of it. So it sounds

512
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: like they have a pretty tumultuous relationship to this is

513
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: the history is a little sketchy, like he was like

514
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: you know, he's like an alcoholic and an alcoholic he

515
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: couldn't keep a job. Her parents still married. I don't

516
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: think they out. I don't think they are. Um, he

517
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: couldn't keep a job. He filed for bankruptcy. And then

518
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: even Kim Kimon, the woman from the label, she said,

519
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: she says a couple of things about him. She says

520
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: he wasn't around. Um, he wasn't around. But in the beginning,

521
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: he said, my daughter is going to be so rich,

522
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 1: she's going to buy me a boat, and then Kim goes,

523
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 1: that's all I'm going to say about James, right like that,

524
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: and then he shows up when the ship hit the fan,

525
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 1: and it's like, I want to control this, and you

526
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: know that she hadn't I don't think. I mean, her

527
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,399
Speaker 1: mother was around, but Jamie Lynn was so little in

528
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: the beginning that there's this assistant named Felicia, who is precious,

529
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: she's so cute. But you made a funny point because

530
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: she talks about they couldn't figure out what to call

531
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 1: her partner, and she goes, I mean that didn't sound right.

532
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: So if we landed on assistant partner, I was so

533
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: confused why they even thought that was a good idea, though,

534
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: I feel like that might have been before partner became

535
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: like the PC like dating term. I don't know. I mean,

536
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 1: it was twenty years ago. I um. But she's you know,

537
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: it's like she takes you sort of on this journey

538
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: through her photos, like I mean, I want to go

539
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: in her house. It looks like it's like this shrine

540
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: to Britney Spears. It is. She's like living in yesterday

541
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: and she got fucked by the conservative ship to like,

542
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, she basically looks like she's an usher. She

543
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: is on the road. I think she like takes people

544
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: to their seat. Felicia I would love to I would

545
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: love to spend a day with Felicia. Yeah. But so

546
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: the big ending of the whole of the whole documentary,

547
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: I guess it's to talk about the conservatorship. And there's

548
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: this whole movement now called Free Brittany that was started

549
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: by these two girls who started this podcast called is

550
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: it Brittany's Graham or something. Yeah, it's UM. I think

551
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:24,239
Speaker 1: it's like Judging Brittany's Graham or something, UM Brittany's Graham podcast.

552
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: But it's basically it started because Brittany's Instagram has gotten

553
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: so confusing, would be the right way to say it,

554
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 1: I guess. But UM today started a podcast and they're like,

555
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: wait a second, we feel like she's actually maybe sending

556
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: some messages. Maybe she's not as crazy as we're all

557
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: acting like she is right now. And once you see

558
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: this documentary and you realize how strategic she was in

559
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: her career, it makes a little more sense. Like she

560
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: obviously can't say certain things because of the law and

561
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: maybe the conservatorship and like the control that they still

562
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 1: have over her. But maybe these crazy, bizarre, wacky post

563
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: are actually her communicating something different, and that's what this

564
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: whole movement has kind of put their feet behind. And

565
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: the and the host of this podcast their names are

566
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: Babs and Tests and they fucking know they're Britney Spears

567
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: like they and I mean they they go pretty deep

568
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: and they haven't listened to the podcast, but I kind

569
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: of want to listen to start. But they, you know,

570
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: they noticed, um they noticed when an announcement was made

571
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: that she had like checked herself into a facility. But

572
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: they they smiley face m emoticon and not an emojy,

573
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,000
Speaker 1: and they were like, something's off here, Like, Brittany did

574
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: not write this. She always she also loves three exclamation points,

575
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: but she also there's this a little crazy. She does

576
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: love a butterfly. She it drives me crazy and she's

577
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 1: not the only one that does it. But they like,

578
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: there's a space after the last letter and then the

579
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: three exclamation points and then a space. I'm like, why

580
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 1: is there that space? That? Um? I digress, But they

581
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: pointed out in the like in the lawsuit that she's

582
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: filing to the end the conservatorship, like the very specific

583
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: language that she and her lawyer are putting in there,

584
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: and because the conservatorship filed paperwork to try and change

585
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: the language so that the relationship would be called a

586
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: hybrid business model, which means that they, the Conservatorship, would

587
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: be making money off of and they have control over

588
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,479
Speaker 1: when she performs, when she signs a TV deal, when

589
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: she signs a movie deal, like they control her life

590
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: and she is now truly a puppet. Well so now

591
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: she's saying she's not going to work until her dad

592
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: is off the deal, which makes you be even more

593
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: like he is literally using his daughter as a business,

594
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: like she is his money maker, and that to me

595
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: is just so sad, especially because her mental health has

596
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: been so involved in the last couple of years. There's

597
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: children involved, Like there's all this stuff about the kids

598
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: not even liking her dad Jamie and him kind of

599
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 1: being abusive and having an abusive moment with Jaden and

600
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: just it's so dark. But like, I highly recommend the

601
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: documentary just for the information in the back story to

602
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: some stuff I think that we just didn't see, or

603
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: it's funny how the media can just spin it however

604
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 1: they want, and you see these back stories and you're like,

605
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, there was so much more to that

606
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 1: story than this, right, yeah, And it's you know, we

607
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: talked about like, well, how does this fit fit are

608
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: like sort of at casual brand, And it's like, I

609
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: truly believe that, like Brittany did her best to act

610
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: casual and it kind of came back and bitter in

611
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: the ass. So I think the moral to the story

612
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: for me is is you have to like stand up

613
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: and fight for yourself and these things and don't let

614
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: it get like don't let your life sort of like

615
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 1: get away from you, because it got out of it

616
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: got so out of control that I think the only

617
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: option for her was to sort of self medicate and

618
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: do these weird things and sort of torpedo her career.

619
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 1: That's a really good point to do, to take care

620
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: of yourself and your own life enough that you're not

621
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: letting yourself get to the point of taking an umbrella

622
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: to somebody's car or shaving your head or do you

623
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: those things. And again, like I actually say that, I

624
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 1: mean we kind of laugh when we say that because

625
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: it's so extreme, but genuinely, I could see myself, you know,

626
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: like when you deplete yourself so much. I don't do

627
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: that extreme of stuff. I haven't shaved my head yet,

628
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: but but I mean there are things that happened that

629
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, you fucking snap right, And so people

630
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: punch walls and do things like right. You know, it's

631
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: those types of moments. And you could say at casual

632
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: and don't do that, but like, don't let yourself get

633
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: to the point where that feels like the best option.

634
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: It's really more of the thing. My favorite quote from

635
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: the whole thing, And I mean this is a sort

636
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: of a non sequitur, but like, I don't know if

637
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: you guys remember Dave Holmes, he was yes, but he

638
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: he um. He basically says um that wait, I wrote

639
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: it down. He said, it's impossible to know her because

640
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: we never knew her. We know, um, we know her

641
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: even less now. She's kind of unknowable. And I was like,

642
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: oh my god, that is so nail on head, like

643
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: because there was so much control being thrust upon her,

644
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: we never really got to know Brittney Spears No, and

645
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: like also, yeah, the control piece and then also just

646
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: playing into the image like we said, and then she

647
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: got sick of that, I think, and so then she

648
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: exploded and it's like, but that's not probably really her either, Right,

649
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: that's a reaction, you know, it's a reaction, like a

650
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: trauma response. Really Brittany, Free Brittany, though, seriously, I am

651
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: like team Brittany hardcore. I want her to have her

652
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: own money. It's like, I mean, I know that the

653
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,800
Speaker 1: girl has struggled a bit, but like, haven't we all

654
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: think there is we haven't talked about this guy, Sam

655
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: lofty Um. The reason why people get into conservativeships is

656
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: a you know, a lot of times they can't take

657
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: they physically can't take care of themselves. But the financial

658
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: side of it is if you it's not just about

659
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: like not being able to they say, it's not about

660
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: being able to just balance your checkbook. It's like, if

661
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: you are the potential for fraud, is there where someone's

662
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: going to take your money? Like, yeah, you're gonna give

663
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 1: your money, You're going to give you money. And I

664
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: do think that Sam Lefty guy is fucking sketchy. There's

665
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: something off. I mean, he's still like he's still in

666
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: the pictures order. Yeah, So that was shocking to me, right,

667
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: but you know it was she was being manipulated by him,

668
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: Like he was probably the one person that was like, oh,

669
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: you can do whatever you want, Brittany, and was like

670
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: letting her just kind of do her thing while manipulating her.

671
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 1: You know. I think that thing that makes me so

672
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 1: sad about her dad is you know, unfortunately, when you

673
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 1: do get that famous, there are a lot of clingers

674
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: on and like users or people who want to man

675
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: surmised themselves through you or whatever. Um, And it's hard

676
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: to trust. I mean, for sure, she was super super famous,

677
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean like another level kind of famous. Um. But

678
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: you feel like you should be able to lean back

679
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: on your family, you know, like of all people, those

680
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: should be the people that have your best interests at heart,

681
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: regardless of how famous or how much money you have.

682
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: And so it makes me really sad about her dad.

683
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: I will tell you this. I want. A friend of

684
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: mine posted that her mom. I guess it is like

685
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: a Rodan and Fields salesman. Now shut up. So I

686
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: was like, well, Lyn's obviously not taking her money. I

687
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, she has an Instagram account that's like

688
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 1: Lynn Spears and it says rode in Fields in it.

689
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Lynn, I like it. Amen, Yeah, I mean that,

690
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: to be honest, her mother should be the one that's

691
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: I thought that too, because it seems like she actually

692
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: just cares about her daughter. But hard to say she

693
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: wants it to be a bank, a bank or a

694
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: lawyer like I mean, that makes me sad, like that,

695
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 1: the fact that you would feel like you wouldn't want

696
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: strangers but just people. I think she just wants people

697
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: who know what they're doing and don't have a motive.

698
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: You know that they're just doing business. And I don't

699
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: blame her for that. So anyway, culture Chi doors at

700
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 1: chip Doors. Um So, anyway, go watch the documentary. It's

701
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: on Hulu. It's actually a little tricky to find, but

702
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 1: it's under the New York Times Documentaries and it's called

703
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: Framing Brittany. When I signed. When I watched it last night,

704
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: it was like when I hit power, it was like

705
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,919
Speaker 1: the main Yeah, I mean, it's it's definitely like high

706
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: up there. I'm shore Um okay. So for the listener

707
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: listener email of the Week, I died. I loved it.

708
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: It's not even really a question, it's more of a statement.

709
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 1: But this is from Sarah, and she says, Hey, Chip

710
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: and Kelly, is this is short enough email to read

711
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: while drunk. Llo L O L. Here's hoping Chip and

712
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,959
Speaker 1: t J oz and get together at Sleda Paluza, even

713
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: if it's just a one time thing. Cheers. She writes

714
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: me back. This was um like an hour later. Yeah,

715
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: this is the middle of the day though, so it's

716
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: like hilarious even more. She goes, it's been a solid

717
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 1: half hour and I'm still laughing about my email to you.

718
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 1: My drunk anyway, t G I F I love her too, Sarah,

719
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: thank you so much. I mean, that is a perfect

720
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 1: email link though. It's amazing, and it's like she's putting

721
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: good energy out into the world. She totally is, yeah

722
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: for you and t J sled A Palouza. I will

723
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: say I went home my rant and I was like, wait,

724
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: I hope people don't not write in now, because I

725
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: totally was like, it's really it was more about a

726
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: meeting and my stutter when I like can't read through

727
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: these long emails. Yeah. Meanwhile, you know, we're like saying

728
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: to make better choices but not drinking. I know, we're

729
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: like lecturing although we're not drinking today because we had

730
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: to record a little bit earlier today because of some

731
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: work stuff. Um, I to get a couple of d

732
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: m s that I wanted to ask you about. Oh,

733
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 1: this is just about the merch. We have some updates.

734
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: We're I had a call this morning. I mean it's happening.

735
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: It is full blown happening. We've sent them the list

736
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: of things that yeah phrases, we're working on designs. We're

737
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: building out the page like this ship is going. Um,

738
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: this is from Tracy. She says, Okay, for merch, you

739
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: need wine glasses and coffee mugs. I didn't think about

740
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: wine glasses. It's pretty funny. Chip can dramatically read my

741
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: instagram if he wants. Looking forward to the narration, I

742
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: wanted you to read dramatic readings from Brittany's Instagram, and

743
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: you were like, I don't want her to feel like

744
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: we're making fun of her, though, to that's the best part.

745
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Britt Let me know which one you want me to read. Yeah, hey, Brittany,

746
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: when you listen to this and d m s, you

747
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: know I'm at velvet sedge and I already know that,

748
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: right britt. Um, Okay, so I posted this thing on

749
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: my Instagram and it's said, this is a question I

750
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, Chip, but so it was a

751
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: really funny meme and it said, fuck nude, send me

752
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: a dated invoice from your therapist so I know you're

753
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: working on yourself, And so I wrote, oh my god,

754
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: I legit just slid off my chair at the thought,

755
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 1: because like that's all I want now, right, Like, I mean,

756
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: if you're dating anyone or you're like going out there,

757
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't think once you can do a certain age,

758
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: You're not like send me a dick pig. You're like

759
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: literally like no, but literally, what are you doing to

760
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 1: work on yourself? And like deal with your past wounds?

761
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: Like it's like some like enormous thing that you saw online.

762
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: It's not even really yours. But this girl wrote me

763
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: back and goes also throwing an st STD test and

764
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: a vaccination certificate, Like what, so what when you start

765
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: sleder palsa, Let's do a hypothetical here, what are gonna

766
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: be your things that you have to get checked off

767
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: the list before you either egg go on a date

768
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: or be hook up with someone? Oh my, is the

769
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: COVID vaccine going to be a requirement. I mean I

770
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: feel like it should be Okay, I think that's a

771
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: responsible thing. Okay, Um, that's it. Okay, so somebody's easy.

772
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: This is going to right for a reason. Okay, what

773
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,760
Speaker 1: about an STD test? I mean, are you practice safe sex? Okay,

774
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: so practice safe sex? So you don't care if they're

775
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,240
Speaker 1: in therapy or not? Is that what you're telling me?

776
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: Only me here? Should I want them to be in

777
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: therapy or not be in therapy? Well, to me, I

778
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: guess it depends. I mean I feel like everyone has shipped,

779
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: so if they have at some point done therapy or

780
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: they can acknowledge like oh yeah, Like I love to

781
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: look at you know, my demons I love to talk to.

782
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like it's a weird question to

783
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: lead with, Like, hey, by the way, I ever been

784
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: to therapy? Okay, I have to tell you this. After

785
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: I canceled my engagement or whatever, I was an intensive

786
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: therapy for years, right, And so I literally would be

787
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: that girl that's like on a first date and I'm like,

788
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if I like directly ever said like

789
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: hey do you do therapy? But I was so just like,

790
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: let's talk about your childhood of the first date. You know,

791
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 1: we need to know. I'm like, what's your relationship with

792
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: your mom and dad? You know, like I just literally

793
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: was that person, And I mean I don't I still

794
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: feel that way, but I mean it's because it's like

795
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: if people can acknowledge, yeah, like had a really fucked

796
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: up childhood, I've done a lot of work on myself,

797
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: then maybe they're ready for their relationship. But it's probably

798
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: little aggressive for a first date. Well, but you know,

799
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: back in the you know, the Stone ages, when before

800
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: dating apps you had to like sort of get some

801
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: of that stuff out on the first date, whereas with

802
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: dating apps now you can kind of get some of

803
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: that stuff out. For me. It's also like grammar and spelling,

804
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: like that's right. I don't go about what a stickler

805
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: you are on I know. Well, I think can tell

806
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: a lot about a person by like the way that

807
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: they write, you know, so like if they write because

808
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: like ce you Z instead of no, I don't care.

809
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: I don't hate that. It's more about like the difference

810
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 1: between they're there and there and like you're and your

811
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: those kinds of things that feels like a real buzz kill. Well,

812
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 1: if they're hot enough I don't care, right, you know

813
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: I was. It actually feels like a real boner kill. Yeah. Yeah,

814
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: this is more about like a long term thing, like

815
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to write, get a serious relationship with

816
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 1: someone who does another difference between there and there? Okay,

817
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: well so or do we have a date yet? I

818
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: don't set a pleasa. We just work. It's a work

819
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: in progress. We're gearing up. I mean, you look great,

820
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: thank you. You're feeling yourself, which feels well. I mean

821
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: I feel like it's there. Needs to be a little

822
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: bit of like going out. Yeah, before I can really

823
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: slot it up. I can't wait for the day. I'm

824
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: just dying for the stories already. It's really going to

825
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: be fun for us. Um all right, well you guys,

826
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: keep the emails coming. Sorry if I was like a

827
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 1: little bit of a bus kill speak about that, I

828
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: was just really feeling my own, um inferiority and reading emails.

829
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: If we're being honest, it seems like Sarah got the

830
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,440
Speaker 1: human Sarah did, and Sarah really called me out in

831
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: the best way possible. It was such a funny statement. Um,

832
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: keep the emails coming to at casual at Velvet's Edge

833
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 1: dot Com watch the documentary and send us your thoughts

834
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: framing Brittany on Hulu. I'd love to hear feedback from

835
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: you guys, if y'all are like vibing with what we

836
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: said to or if you have different thoughts um or

837
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: if you feel like hashtag free Brittany is a real

838
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: thing or it should be, you know, like which side

839
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 1: are you on? I'm all about free in brittanysh free

840
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 1: Brittany same. I need to get me one of those

841
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: shirts all the view Maybe we should just make some merch.

842
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: My god, we steal it all of a sudden. We're

843
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 1: getting sub before it starts. Okay, my fat real quick

844
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: before we go. Like one of the funniest things in

845
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: the documentary is like the chance that they made like

846
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: hey ho, the Conservative ship has got to go. Like

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Speaker 1: conservative ship is such like a weird word. Ship has

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Speaker 1: got to go. They have like so many chances that

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Speaker 1: like seemed really awkward, like they haven't really hard time

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Speaker 1: like finding the beat because that work. The Conservatives ship

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Speaker 1: has got to go. It is hard. Let's make a jingle.

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Speaker 1: We'll sing it next week. We'll think of something, all right,

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Speaker 1: you guys. Emails at Casual at velvet edge dot com

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Speaker 1: or you can hit me up on Instagram. It's at

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Speaker 1: velvet Edge, Chip is at Chip Dorsh and always remember

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Speaker 1: act casual