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Speaker 1: Hey, we are live. I believe we're alive. I believe

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Speaker 1: everything is going the way that it's supposed to. Hi. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: my name is Luke Thomas. It is the eleventh of

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Speaker 1: October five, twenty nine pm on the East Coast. I'm

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Speaker 1: here on the East Coast. I'm here because we have

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Speaker 1: some breaking news. Oh yes, we fucking do. We have

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Speaker 1: lots of breaking news. Now. What's kind of funny about

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Speaker 1: this breaking news is that I could have done it

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Speaker 1: interesting announcements about that, some of the which you heard

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Speaker 1: on this morning's Morning Combat episode five hundred. By the way,

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Speaker 1: thanks to everyone who took part. But there's another element,

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Speaker 1: and this broke this afternoon. So I'm not here to

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Speaker 1: say that the news about UFC two ninety four is

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Speaker 1: not important or somehow not cool or irrelevant. It's relevant,

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Speaker 1: it's cool, it's interesting, it's a big deal, but it's

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Speaker 1: not as a big deals. So what I'm about to

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Speaker 1: get to Let me adjust my glasses. This is a

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Speaker 1: great day. This is a fantastic day. A fan, Oh

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Speaker 1: you know what, And let me make sure that I

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Speaker 1: have just what I need. Yep, I sure do. To

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Speaker 1: make sure to drive this point home, this is a

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Speaker 1: day I have been wondering about for quite some time.

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Speaker 1: Let me just get to all the facts and then

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Speaker 1: I will regale you with some of my opinion about this.

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Speaker 1: But let's get to the facts first and we'll start

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Speaker 1: from there. Okay. Now, I did not receive a press release.

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Speaker 1: USADA does not send me press releases because I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm an angry critic of them. They don't send me

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Speaker 1: any information. But this news does come to us via

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Speaker 1: Aaron Bronstetter. I'm gonna try and blow this up so

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Speaker 1: you guys can see it as best I can. Nah,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't really help because it only makes that bigger. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, so let me just read to you what

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Speaker 1: So here's what we have. I'm gonna put myself more

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Speaker 1: like that. If you can't read it, don't worry, I

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Speaker 1: will read it to you. Here is the announcement quote.

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Speaker 1: We can confirm Connor McGregor has re entered the USADA

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Speaker 1: testing pool. As of Sunday, October eighth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: So first things first, Connor McGregor is back in the

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Speaker 1: USADA testing pool. But that's not the most important story.

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Speaker 1: This is the most important story. I continue. We have

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Speaker 1: been clear and firm with the UFC that there should

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Speaker 1: in the pool for at least six months. The rules

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Speaker 1: also allow USADA to keep someone in the testing pool

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Speaker 1: longer before competing, based on their declarations upon entry in

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Speaker 1: the pool and testing results. Unfortunately, they say, we do

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Speaker 1: not currently know whether the UFC will ultimately honor the

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Speaker 1: six month or longer requirement, because as of January first,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, USADA will no longer be involved with

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Speaker 1: the UFC anti doping program. Oh holy shit balls. Despite

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Speaker 1: May twenty twenty three, USADA says the UFC did an

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Speaker 1: it was going in a different direction. They continue, we

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Speaker 1: are disappointed for the UFC athletes. Oh are you who

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Speaker 1: are independent contractors who rely on our independent, gold standard

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Speaker 1: and fair octagon. What bullshit. The UFC's move imperils the

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Speaker 1: immense progress made within the sport under USADA's leadership. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the relationship between Yousada and UFC became untenable given the

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Speaker 1: statements made by UFC leaders and other fer's questioning you

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Speaker 1: One UFC commentator echoed this recently, declaring that Yousada should

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Speaker 1: As always, we will continue to uphold the rights and

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Speaker 1: According to Yousada, they had a meeting in May that

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Speaker 1: And they said they had in their description and about

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Speaker 1: this is an amazing news. I mean, there's so many

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Speaker 1: different dimensions to this. So first of all, let's talk

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Speaker 1: it than that. But the Connor McGregor angle is pretty big.

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Speaker 1: We'll be subject to being in the pool for the

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Speaker 1: But at least insofar as Yousada is concerned, there will

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Speaker 1: I wrote in December, excuse me when did I write this?

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Speaker 1: Back in twenty twenty two, I wrote the following This

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Speaker 1: to see McGregor has demonstrated the obvious, namely that deferring

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Speaker 1: because YUSADA never had a right to be here. This

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Speaker 1: They never ever had a hand in crafting the antidoping protocol.

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Speaker 1: sort this. You might be asking, Luke, have athletes been

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Speaker 1: that were of a performance enhancing benefit. The answer is yes,

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Speaker 1: that's on record. That's on USADA's fucking website. You can

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Speaker 1: find that yourself. It was an American gymnast that that

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Speaker 1: the strict liability standard is even barely enforceable at this point.

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Speaker 1: All of the pillars of what they have tried to do,

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Speaker 1: whether they are trying to say we clean up the sport.

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Speaker 1: They they never asked permission from the other stakeholders, They

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Speaker 1: well they got a clean sport out of it, did they?

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Speaker 1: To what extent has USADA provided any and listen to

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Speaker 1: the word I am picking here any a and why

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Speaker 1: any public evidence that what they did through you, through

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Speaker 1: on laceration reduction, on hospital admittance, on anything. Show me.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying it. I've been saying it since

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Speaker 1: is the most important thing that matters. Then they go

428
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Speaker 1: to another organization that does no testing whatsoever. Guys are

429
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: using everything in every possible way, like it's just like

430
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,479
Speaker 1: rampant use, and they don't even care. They didn't bother them.

431
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 1: And then they would even say, yeah, it doesn't matter what

432
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,040
Speaker 1: they're on, I'm still gonna win. Like even from the outset,

433
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: there was never consistent messaging on the pushback to you

434
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 1: sada or excuse me, to the pushback to the criticisms

435
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 1: about yusada that folks like me were making. And I'm

436
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: sorry to make it all about me, but you know,

437
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: let's not pretend there were a lot of people who

438
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 1: were agreeing agreeing with me back when yusada was introduced.

439
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: I had so many people coming after me, fighters coming

440
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: after me, and not one of them is gonna change

441
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: a fucking thing about what they do as a result

442
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: of this departure, which shows you that the stance that

443
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 1: they took to begin with was never principled, it was

444
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: never rooted. In fact, it was rooted in drug hysteria.

445
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 1: Like just about every other decision that institutions make in

446
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: this country, and now here we are about to be

447
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: on the other side of it, and no one's gonna

448
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: say or do shit about it. That tells you what

449
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: was actually really rooting everything underneath it. It was we

450
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 1: got we gotta do something. We gotta do something. We

451
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,159
Speaker 1: got we gotta panic, and we gotta make a decision.

452
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: You guys, sure this is the best decision to make

453
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: in a panicked state. Yeah. Turns out not. Turns out

454
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 1: the UFC realized I think wisely that the utility of

455
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: this organization has faded quite dramatically, if there ever was

456
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,199
Speaker 1: any to begin with us outside of the social or

457
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: otherwise the catastrophe insurance. I want to revisit every single

458
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: person who killed me in twenty fourteen, whatever the year was,

459
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: I can't remember anymore, who killed me over and over

460
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: again about how this was a necessity for the sport

461
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: had to happen. And look at what Connor McGregor did.

462
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor had a horrific injury. On that we can

463
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: all agree, certainly, yes, yes, has a horrific injury. Gets

464
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,320
Speaker 1: not even out of the test, It just doesn't even retire.

465
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: I guess he got out of the testing pool. But

466
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 1: they didn't pull him off the rankings because why would

467
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: they decides to seek medical rehabilitation that I'm sure you

468
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,959
Speaker 1: know I'm guessing here. These are just my estimations. These

469
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: are just my opinion. I don't know anything. But it

470
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: appears from what I can tell in my opinion that

471
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 1: he probably took stuff that was not you sought to approve.

472
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: I'm sure that it was under clear medical supervision. He

473
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: can only afford the very best care that medical science

474
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 1: can offer. It wasn't in keeping with what they wanted.

475
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 1: He didn't want to seek their opinion about it. He

476
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: had a horrible, horrible injury. He even talked about the

477
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: fact that when this is all gone, I need to

478
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: have quality of life. I need to be able to

479
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: play with my kids. He didn't want to do you

480
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: SADA approved rehabilitation, and of course who would. In fact,

481
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 1: you can make an argument that if you play professional

482
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Speaker 1: American football, by the way, that the players Association should

483
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 1: even be asking if growth hormonarn is growth hormone is

484
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: the thing that'd be good for medical rehabilitation. Remember micro

485
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 1: crocop using it for medical rehabilitation around his shoulder, right

486
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: remember that, uh, and ultimately ended up popping with you,

487
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: so it didn't matter he was retiring. It ended up

488
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: being not much of an issue, but using growth hormone

489
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 1: in a way that you was not you saw to approve,

490
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: but it was certainly doctor approved. Right. He didn't want

491
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: to jump through those hoops. He didn't want to have

492
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 1: to worry about that, and he's fucking right. There's been

493
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: many things Connor McGregor has said that I hated. There's

494
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: been many things Connor McGregor has done that I hated.

495
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: I'm not really you know, I don't. I know, I

496
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: don't have any I admire what he's done as an athlete, certainly,

497
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: right like I was there at UFC two of five,

498
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: that was all big night. He's done big things. But

499
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm not somebody who just cheerleads everything Connor McGregor does.

500
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: But when someone suffers a traumatic injury and it says

501
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: to themselves, you know what I'm gonna do. I'm actually

502
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: gonna get the best medical care that I need for

503
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: my quality of life, for my future, for my family,

504
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: for my sanity, for my own sake, and I'm gonna

505
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: let the chips fall what they may after that. Now,

506
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: that's a power move. You and I probably couldn't do that,

507
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: but he did that, and he was right to do it.

508
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: Yousada never really ever got the fighters to agree to anything.

509
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 1: They didn't work with them. None of that was elective.

510
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor didn't sign up with you Soada because he

511
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: wanted to. He signed up with USADA because he was

512
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: forced to. This is not VADA, This is not the

513
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: Voluntary Antidoping Association or agency, whatever the Last Day stands for.

514
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: It's not that they were coerced into doing it. And

515
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: when it was time for him to say, pause, I

516
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: don't want to do this anymore, he did. He did,

517
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: and this, apparently, among a series of other factors, has

518
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: ultimately resulted in the UFC deciding to move on from them.

519
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor's contribution to the rights of athletes, to the

520
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: to what athletes should be able to get for themselves,

521
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: to their dude, let me just Connor McGregor shows when

522
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: they're powerful enough and they work together. Make no mistake,

523
00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 1: who runs this sport. It's the fight. It's the fighters.

524
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: The fighters run this sport. That's a lesson, that's a

525
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: through line through the entire course of Connor McGregor's career.

526
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 1: That's never changed. It's been there from day one. Who

527
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: runs this? In his case, I run this is what

528
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: he would say. But you know, the fighters run this,

529
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: and that's been true. Whether he wanted more money, that's

530
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: been true. Whether he wanted you name it, that's true.

531
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: When it also comes to taking care of his health

532
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: after a horrific injury. And now look at the result. Now,

533
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to presume too much about what Connor

534
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: did or did not do. I'm assuming it played a role.

535
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if it played the role ultimately and

536
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: everything falling apart, but it was only through the circumstances

537
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,719
Speaker 1: these back and forth media wars almost with USADA and

538
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: Connor that I think caused some of that visible friction

539
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: between UFC ANDSADA. Maybe the writing was on the wall.

540
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: I remember when Danny was like, yeahknaviitsky about it. I

541
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: don't even care. Remember that that wasn't too long ago,

542
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:11,719
Speaker 1: that that was actually fairly recent. So so yeah, here

543
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: we go. Phone is blowing up boys and girls. God damn,

544
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: you guys want a recommendation. Here's a recommendation. I'm going

545
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: to show it to you one more time. There you go.

546
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: The anti doping crisis in sport causes, consequences and solutions

547
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: by two academics. Both of them I think Werner Muller

548
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 1: is I want to say finish. Paul Demio is Scottish.

549
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: This is not a book that argues everyone should be

550
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: allowed to do steroids all the time. It's not what

551
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: it argues. But what it does argue is that anti

552
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: doping is basically built off the back of the institutions

553
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: that have grown from drug hysteria. That is true, no

554
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: doubt about it, and that anti doping might serve some

555
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: valuable roles, but there a should be athlete buy in

556
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: into any anti doping program and be without it. It

557
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: has vast overreach to the point where it's not accomplishing

558
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: the mission that it's set out to do while compromising

559
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: the rights of athletes. This is the major contradiction that

560
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: you sat always found themselves in that drove me nuts.

561
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: They would act like they were the like were the

562
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: voice of the athlete. We speak for the athlete, We

563
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: serve the interest of the athlete, like no, you don't.

564
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: You were never ever ever asked to be here by

565
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 1: a single athlete. You were brought here by the people

566
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 1: who kind of control the industry. Let's just be clear

567
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: about that. You never got athlete by in That's the

568
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: first thing I'd say. But more to the point, how

569
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: can it be that you're in charge of the rights

570
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: of athletes to be clean athletes when you overrun their

571
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: rights to privacy when you watch them nakedly shower in

572
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: order to accomplish your mission. It can't be both, right,

573
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: It can't be both. You cannot say we, in order

574
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: to protect the rights of clean athletes, whatever that's supposed

575
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: to mean, we're going to over run the privacy rights

576
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: and the rights to you know, frankly judicious outcomes like

577
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,719
Speaker 1: where they had to change their pr policies, like we're

578
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: just going to announce every failure first, even if there's

579
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 1: mitigating circumstances. How can it be you have to disrupt

580
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: one to have the other rights by them by definition

581
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: are inalienable. It cannot be that they are in conflict

582
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: in the way that they are describing. So it just

583
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: tells you that this whole notion about the rights of

584
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,239
Speaker 1: clean ATHLETs, what the fuck does that even mean? And

585
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: prove to us you're actually making a dent in this.

586
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: Prove it, prove it, prove it, prove it, Prove it

587
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: that your participation as a program meaningfully contributed to the

588
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: things you're talking about. Oh well, we tested their blood

589
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 1: and there was what was it the one they used

590
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: I think on Rogan years ago. It was like they

591
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: tested the blood and there was like less testosterone found

592
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: over time. Yeah, what is it today? And that doesn't

593
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: even mean anything anyway. That just means they could have

594
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: stopped for a time. They could be right back on it.

595
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: They could have changed what they're on. More shouts to

596
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: Derek of more Places, Bordads, who's been over this at nauseum.

597
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 1: There are any number of loopholes around that show me

598
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: what they did. Work to prove it to me. Prove

599
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: it to me. Been saying this for eight years, fucking

600
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: prove it to me, and they can't. So the lesson

601
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I wish to leave you with is not that there

602
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: is no place for anti doping in sport. People often

603
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: think that what I want is no anti doping. I'm

604
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: not one of these guys that needs it. But if

605
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: the athletes want it, then they should have it. They

606
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 1: should have it. But what has to happen is that

607
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: the athlete has to bring it in. The athlete has

608
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: to have a role in this policy. So let me

609
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: say this, I don't know what the UFC is going

610
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: to do. If they're going to leave it to the commissions.

611
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: I suppose that's one thing. If they invite you, if

612
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: they invite Vada and then the athletes, and there is

613
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: peer pressure there. But if the athletes ultimately elect to

614
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 1: use that service, I am perfectly okay with that. I'm

615
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: perfectly okay with fighters buying in to system that they

616
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: believe in, choosing to enter the system. Having say I'm

617
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: okay with it. I'm perfectly okay with it, and you

618
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: should be as well. Whether or not it works or

619
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: not is a very different question. But at least you

620
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: have that baseline buy in process. You have the athletes

621
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: being treated as partners at the table. They're all in

622
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 1: this together. But that's not what you have with UFC,

623
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: and you saw, at least up to this point with you, Soda,

624
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: that's not what you've had at all. You've had the

625
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: exact opposite. And I hope that Yousada has saved a

626
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: little bit of money to help out Tom Lawler, who

627
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: appears to have recovered quite well despite everything that they've

628
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: done to fuck that guy, make no mistake. Do what's

629
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: the cost that they should have to pay for that,

630
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: for just fucking his career up? What's the cost that

631
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: they should have to pay for that? Nothing? Hmm zero?

632
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: All the athletes have to bear the cost. Why shouldn't you,

633
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: SADA have to bear the cost because they fucked up

634
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: big time. He did nothing wrong, zero wrong, utterly exonerated,

635
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: and they fucking ruined his career, his MMA career anyway,

636
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: never ever, ever, ever forget that. So you wonder what

637
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: the legacy of USADA is to me. It's a giant

638
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: waste of everyone's time, an organization that proved nothing about

639
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 1: why the time they were here, that got a lot

640
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Speaker 1: of lip service and definitely provided some social and catastrophe

641
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: insurance the whole time, and the instant they're gone, no

642
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: one is going to be asking for them back. Want

643
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: to fucking bet. No one is gonna say, oh, it

644
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 1: was so much better under that system. No one is

645
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 1: going to say that, no one, no one will be

646
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: asking for that zero none. And all the people who say,

647
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: well you have to have this at MMA, you have

648
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: to have this, They're all gonna still watch. They're all

649
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: just gonna be exactly the same way they were before

650
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: Garret and Tee. It absolutely would bet my life on it.

651
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: I never ever bought that they had a principled stance

652
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: about anti doping and fighting. Just didn't believe it. Still don't,

653
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: And I had every reason to believe what I did.

654
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: And here they are. And by the way, PFL calling

655
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: like a huge portion of their roster to then bring

656
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: you soda in now that you have seen going the

657
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: other way is comical to the nth degree. What a

658
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: tragic mistake. That is tragic. Again, guys, what is so

659
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: hard about vada? I don't understand this. Boxers all use it.

660
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: You don't see anybody complaining, Oh well, there's people using

661
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: all the time in boxing. Guys, They're gonna use all

662
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: the time, no matter what. That's what you don't understand.

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00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Drugs win the drug war. But at least there you

664
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: would have a system that guys buy into. You would

665
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: still have. They can test you at any time, you

666
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. They can take a million samples,

667
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,840
Speaker 1: They take blood, they take your in they do carbon

668
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: isotope ratios to all that stuff. They can do all

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00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 1: of it too, at least though they have the athlete

670
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 1: being like, I may participant in a program that I

671
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: care about. Good good for me. It's good for me,

672
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: So don't let the door hit you on the ass

673
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:23,879
Speaker 1: on the way out. Guys, you know, never seen people

674
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: who had a bigger, bigger savior complex than these donks.

675
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: These donks walked in here, and we're like, we are

676
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: here too. I mean, look at this cesspool. We're gonna

677
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: we're gonna fix this right up. But first we're gonna

678
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: fucking ruin your career. We're gonna sew, We're gonna sully

679
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 1: your name. We're not gonna provide any data that any

680
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: of this is doing shit. By the way, just want

681
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: you to know that for eight year if we're not

682
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: gonna provide a fucking document to that effect, We're just

683
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: gonna we're just gonna take your blood together and we're

684
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: gonna wash. We're gonna watch you wash your balls, right,

685
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna invade your privacy. We're gonna do all of this,

686
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: and then when we're gone, you'll have asked what was

687
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: the fun point of it all? And the answer will

688
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: be nothing. Congratulations to the Usada era. What did you accomplish?

689
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: Nothing other than, you know, organizational aggrandizement. It's about it.

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Speaker 1: So this is a this is an interesting day. This

691
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: is an interesting day. Let's see what you UFC does.

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00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: Let's see how they handle it. Let's see if let's

693
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: see when Connor McGregor comes back. Let's see and let's

694
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: see what the folks say who hammered me day after

695
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: day after day about how this was necessary for the

696
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: sport to exist. Let's see what happens when they part ways.

697
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Speaker 1: You know what's going to happen to them in terms

698
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Speaker 1: of what their changes are going to be? Nothing? Nothing,

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Speaker 1: All right, folks, that's it for me on this rambling

700
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Speaker 1: edition of Breaking News. My name is Luke Thomas. Hey,

701
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Speaker 1: give me a thumbs up, sub sub do what you

702
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: gotta do. Email me if you got the evidence. Luke

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Speaker 1: Thomas News is a Gmail dot com. I'm pleased by

704
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Speaker 1: all means. Hit me up. I've been waiting for eight

705
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Speaker 1: years for this shit, so this ought to be good. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're back on Friday. I got my live chat tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: but that should be a fun one as well. Lots

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Speaker 1: to get to, lots going on. Thank you, guys so

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Speaker 1: much for watching what a day it was here on

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Speaker 1: MK five hundred. I'm out. I'll see you guys next time.

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Speaker 1: Peace pop out of b