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Speaker 1: There's nothing respectful about you, Johnny, because I told you

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Speaker 2: But it's you had said to me that you didn't

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Speaker 2: What if I were to tell you that this isn't

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Speaker 1: Oh god, it's a difference.

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Speaker 2: Well, because it's not going to be a canonical episode.

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Speaker 2: It's an anticipation of the second season, and there isn't

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Speaker 2: The floor is yours. I'm listening, yeah. From Gimblet Media.

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Speaker 2: I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight, today's pre season episode.

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Speaker 3: Milt, you have one new voice message, a.

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Speaker 2: Voice message from my friend Gregor something about my podcast

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Speaker 2: destroying lives. Must be a bad connection, I think, because

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Speaker 2: my podcast saves lives. I phone back to remind Gregor

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Speaker 4: It wasn't a little awkward. It was incredibly awkward. You're

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Speaker 4: Well, I finally made it to Reddit. Soon I'll be

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Speaker 2: sixty five year friendship, and that was that. According to Gregor,

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Speaker 4: Every one of your ideas is worse than the previous one,

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Speaker 2: Well you want to try, you want to try calling

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Speaker 2: Like all Jewish men of a certain age, Milt probably

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Speaker 7: Up my grandchild. Greg's son said when he heard about this,

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Speaker 9: Are you good?

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Speaker 2: How are you Milton?

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Speaker 5: I'm good. Let me just shut my music.

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Speaker 2: And what better way to enjoy the end of Act one?

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Speaker 2: But with a message from our sponsors, how was I

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Speaker 4: He'll send me a poem written about my mother. To me,

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like I wake to the yawning cavern

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Speaker 2: It made Gregor wonder had Milt ever written a poem

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Speaker 4: Not that I'm aware of, but you wrote seven thousand poems.

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Speaker 10: You never wrote a poem about Sydney.

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Speaker 2: So I hear that you wrote a poem, Gregor was

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Speaker 2: But I ask if with this personal one, he'd be

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Speaker 2: In this way, Milt would be making himself vulnerable with

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Speaker 9: insulting about I write poetry like I'm going to go

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Speaker 2: Why would you publish in your own book of poetry

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Once again, Milt was presenting his work at the feet

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Speaker 2: It was to make amends and win back his oldest friend.

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Speaker 2: And that was scarier. Uh, why don't I Why don't

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Speaker 2: I connect you guys? Gregor? So we're not going to

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Speaker 8: I think we stay out of it. I don't see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, because normally, you know, I like to interlock, interlocute.

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Speaker 8: Right now, you're an inter locke her.

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Speaker 5: Call him up.

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Speaker 8: Let's talk. You tell him and if this whole ship

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get him on the phone. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: here we go, calling him up.

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Speaker 9: Hello, Hello, Hello, hello, hello, Yes.

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Speaker 5: Who is this is Milt Irlic? How are you?

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Speaker 4: Is this.

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Speaker 5: Milton Irlic?

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Speaker 10: Milton Amic?

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Speaker 9: How are you.

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Speaker 5: Okay? Great to hear from you on hold on?

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Speaker 9: Okay, thank you him, Milt?

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Speaker 10: What a surprise?

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Speaker 5: How are you okay?

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Speaker 10: Okay?

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Speaker 9: Go ahead, Yeah, I'm okay. But the reason I'm calling

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Speaker 9: you uh Greg Greg's friend Jonathan Goldstein. He wants to

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Speaker 9: wants me to read a poem I wrote to you.

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Speaker 9: He's on the phone right now, I believe Jonathan. Are

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Speaker 2: Yes? Hi, Hi, Either.

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Speaker 2: Not only had Milt immediately forgotten our game plan, but

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Speaker 2: the wings Sydney's least favorite podcast host. But fortunately before

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Speaker 9: Comment or interrupt anytime you want. The poem is called

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Speaker 9: the Iconic Class and I wrote it, and I wrote

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Speaker 9: it in homage homage to Sydney f okay. Words flow

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Speaker 9: out of their mouths like tropical birds, shive us regal

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Speaker 9: Molly Bloom's soliloquy. Utopianists, rebel outsiders longing for communion, and community,

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Speaker 9: has only begun. That's that's the poem.

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Speaker 10: I'm I'm not quite sure. I mean, it's the kind

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Speaker 10: until now, he thought nobody noticed. If it weren't so long,

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Speaker 10: I'd have it on my tombstone, you know. Uh just uh.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you feel uh touched hearing hearing this poem?

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Speaker 9: Oh?

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Speaker 10: Of course I do. Uh, of course I feel touched

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Speaker 10: that was delivered the vehicle. There's milt irlic. I mean

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Speaker 10: So hearing Milt's voice delivering this poem, the weight is

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you for helping to make me a better poet.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, we're we're we're we're at a new phase,

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Speaker 9: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: There was no reference to the letter, nor to there

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Speaker 2: not speak king. In other words, not a lot of

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Speaker 2: as he always.

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Speaker 10: Does, say hello to family, Milt say.

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Speaker 2: Hello, to which Milt says, as he always does, say

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Speaker 2: he who nothing much of anything, but today Sydney doesn't

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Speaker 10: Bye bye bye bye, say bye bye.

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Speaker 5: Okay, bye bye bye bye.

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Speaker 2: I asked Milt how he feels the whole thing went,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 11: One of the essential things about friendship. I've wrote several

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Speaker 11: I've written several poems about the consentment to sure, there's

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Speaker 2: Although I don't ask him out right, I get the

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Speaker 2: But I'm also sure that Sydney, at that very moment

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Speaker 2: And maybe in all friendships, if you ask who's getting

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Speaker 2: I am. But if the friendship has a fighting chance

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Speaker 2: contain some version of but it's worth it. Before we

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Speaker 5: The last thing he said regards to who did you hear? Oh?

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Speaker 2: He said, he said, to give regards to your family.

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Speaker 5: Oh family, I couldn't hear it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah you might. You might want to email him to

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Speaker 2: just say to give regards to his family or he

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Speaker 2: might be sensitive. What would this friendship do without me? Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: take it easy. Bye bye bye, Hey Gregor you're still there.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll be the first to admit it. I didn't

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Speaker 2: I have to say, do you do you see any

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Speaker 2: any parallels in in in your dad and Sid's relationship

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think, Sai, it's a genius and I'm

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question. Did you know that

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Speaker 5: I think you mentioned that.

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Speaker 2: Do you know his name?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 8: You're deposing me.

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Speaker 2: You've never listened to an episode of Heavyweight.

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Speaker 8: I don't like those earbuds in my ears. They hurt

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're gonna end up being friends like

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Speaker 2: for the next like sixty years?

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Speaker 8: It you'd be one hundred and fifteen. Can you imagine

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Speaker 8: if you were one hundred and fifteen year ord you

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Speaker 6: that the last month's rent is scheming with the damage

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Speaker 2: by Hailey Shaw. Follow us on Twitter at Heavyweight or

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Speaker 2: email us at Heavyweight at gimbletmedia dot com. Our season

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Speaker 2: begins on October twenty six.

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Speaker 3: Why are we repainted? Wow?

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Speaker 2: You better get yourself a new pair of headphones, my friend,

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Speaker 2: because there's a lot of great stuff coming your way

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Speaker 2: in season two?

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Speaker 8: Are threatening me?

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Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm working on some stories and some

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Speaker 2: of them take place in Canada.

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Speaker 8: You're working on stories and take place in Canada. I'm

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Speaker 8: not gonna go change my underpants.

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Speaker 2: I don't like when you say that. And you know

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Speaker 2: my friend Jackie, she's she's coming back. I think she's

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Speaker 2: just alady. Know your friend Jackie, you've met her several times.

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Speaker 8: Name doesn't ring a bell