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Speaker 1: Here's Brian no, Rich Hornberger and Jared Smith.

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Speaker 2: Oh what is going on everybody?

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Speaker 3: I hope you're enjoying your Saturday and it's off to

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Speaker 3: a swimming start over here.

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Speaker 2: A good morning, Rich, Good morning Jared. Everything good with you, guys.

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Speaker 4: Good good and ask you fire up?

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Speaker 5: Give me here?

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Speaker 4: Very nice?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I think we start with good news over here.

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Speaker 4: How about this?

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Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart of the Bengals is signed, sealed and delivered.

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Speaker 3: I finally agreed to a contract with the Bengals. There

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Speaker 3: was a standoff between him and the organization where the

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Speaker 3: Bengals they were pushing if this and if that that,

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Speaker 3: Schamar would not get certain guarantees in his contract. And

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Speaker 3: so finally they've resolved their differences over this language that

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Speaker 3: would void guaranteed money.

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Speaker 2: And according to Schefter, he put out the tweet there.

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Speaker 3: Shamar Stewart and the Cincinnati Bengals reached an agreement on

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Speaker 3: a four year, fully guaranteed, eighteen point nine to seven

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Speaker 3: million dollar contract. So I want to play a game

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Speaker 3: right off the right at the beginning of the show here, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So simple question, and the game is you know which

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Speaker 2: Basically?

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Speaker 3: Is this just part of the negotiating process, right, Like

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Speaker 3: it gets a little ugly, gets a little messy, and

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Speaker 3: then things get resolved. So just part of the process.

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Speaker 3: Or is this unnecessarily difficult? With what happened between the

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Speaker 3: Bengals and Shamar what would you say that they're rich?

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Speaker 6: Well, what's difficult about it is it's almost like when

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Speaker 6: somebody says, hey, the Dolphins are facing the Vikings and

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Speaker 6: for you, Brian, I know you like the Dolphins, but

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Speaker 6: for me, I don't have a dog in the fight.

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Speaker 6: But the Dolphins are facing the Vikings on Thursday night football,

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Speaker 6: who are you rooting for? And like, if you're not

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Speaker 6: from Miami and you're not from Minnesota and you're just

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Speaker 6: hoping for a good game, like you're just hoping for

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Speaker 6: a good game, right you know? So I guess my

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Speaker 6: lean is toward the player, right because having been through

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Speaker 6: the ringer as a player watching how negotiations go, typically

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Speaker 6: watching how much advantage has been classically been taken of

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Speaker 6: players in contract negotiations over the course of my career,

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Speaker 6: and of course afterward covering the game. I guess my

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Speaker 6: lean is towards Samar Stewart getting everything you can possibly

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Speaker 6: get from these owners while you're playing football, because it

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Speaker 6: is a short window where you can earn and if

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Speaker 6: you're uncomfortable with the contract language, you know, get the back.

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Speaker 6: Try to get as much favorable language in your favor

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Speaker 6: as possible because the owners are going to win the

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Speaker 6: exchange every time anyways. But in terms of this negotiation

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Speaker 6: in particular, am I a huge Shamar Stewart fan? Like,

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Speaker 6: was I aware of him before he was a draft pick?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: You know obviously in passing the Bengals, I mean, am

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Speaker 6: I a Bengals fan? No, So it's kind of like

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Speaker 6: I just wanted to see where this one landed. And

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Speaker 6: like all good negotiations, it sounds like both sides finished

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Speaker 6: negotiations unhappy, which is usually how you know that there

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Speaker 6: were wins that each side didn't want to concede or

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Speaker 6: losses that each side didn't want to concede within the negotiation,

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Speaker 6: and I think that means that it was a pretty

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Speaker 4: Definitely was compromise, right, Stewart did cave on some of

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Speaker 4: the language in the deal, but he also got five

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Speaker 4: I think that's I mean, again, I'm not to me,

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Speaker 4: five hundred k is like, you know, life changing money, almost,

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Speaker 4: But for these guys, it's just kind of, you know,

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Speaker 4: moving some of the deck chairs around the Titanic. I

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Speaker 4: guess in some capacity, I typically, especially because of the

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Speaker 4: I kind of fault myself to our I guess error

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Speaker 4: Like I mean, honestly, I think those two things go

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Speaker 4: the benefit of the doubt right out of the gate

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Speaker 4: to me went towards Stuart. Now that I've had a

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Speaker 3: This is the definition of unnecessarily difficult.

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Speaker 2: This is textbook.

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Speaker 3: If you look it up, like contract negotiations being unnecessarily difficult,

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Speaker 3: you will see a picture of the Bengals, and in

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Speaker 3: the shadows would be Samar Stuart, right, because he's part

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Speaker 3: of this whole negotiation. But the way this was dragged out,

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Speaker 3: it's so unnecessary. Now there are a couple of clips

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Speaker 3: from Mike Brown, the Bengals team owner. Now he was

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Speaker 3: speaking earlier this week before the deal was agreed to. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so he's explaining like how they got here, what they're

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Speaker 3: arguing about. But listen to some of the things that

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Speaker 3: he says. Here's the first clip. We'll go piece by

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Speaker 3: piece here, right, because I think this is important. This

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Speaker 3: is Mike Brown again, Bengals team owner, talking about, Hey.

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 3: What's with this standoffs at the time again earlier this

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Speaker 2: Here's Mike Brown.

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Speaker 7: Basically it turns on whether out ears are guaranteed if

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Speaker 7: he gets involved in conduct detrimental to football. Well, what

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Speaker 7: does that mean? Detrimental to football? In recent years has

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Speaker 7: been violence to women. That's about the one that comes

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Speaker 7: to mine. There are others, probably, but that's the one

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you know, we got to protect ourselves just

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Speaker 3: in case Samar is slapping women around over you. That's

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Speaker 3: the first part that's completely disrespectful. Here's the second part

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Speaker 7: Well, if we get a player who gets involved in

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Speaker 7: Guess what, I don't want to pay him. I really don't.

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Speaker 7: If he's sitting in jail, I don't think I ought

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Speaker 3: Okay, so it might be behind bars now, Okay, it

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Speaker 3: might be in the clink over here. We got to

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Speaker 3: think about jail time. Why the hell did you draft

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Speaker 3: final one. I can't even make this up. This is

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Speaker 3: the kicker after all this drama. Mike Brown's like, I

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Speaker 3: don't think we're gonna have a problem anyway.

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Speaker 2: Check this out.

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Speaker 7: Oddly, something like this has never occurred in my memory.

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Speaker 7: With us. I don't think it's going to occur. So

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Speaker 7: we're sitting here arguing over something that I think is

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Speaker 2: But we are, Oh my lord, are you kidding me?

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Speaker 4: With all of this?

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Speaker 3: It was dragged out for months, and the odor of

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Speaker 2: Is like, I don't know why we're even doing this,

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Speaker 2: Like what, Oh my god, you can't make it.

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Speaker 4: You're here, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I'm just happy. I don't root for the Bengals.

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Speaker 3: I would be headbutting my wall on a daily basis

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Speaker 3: if that's what was going on with my team.

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Speaker 5: My lord, that is exactly correct. That is exactly correct.

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Speaker 6: And by the way, that's the reason why I typically

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Speaker 6: because it's the NFL, man, man, these teams must be

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Speaker 6: pretty buttoned up, like they must have all their ducks

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Speaker 6: in a row. They've got these crack legal staffs. These

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Speaker 6: owners are super plugged in and tuned into negotiations, and

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Speaker 6: it's like sharks in the water, and they have a

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Speaker 6: just go through every single line of that contract and

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Speaker 5: In there, there's a great reason for it.

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Speaker 6: And guess what, that's a lot of nonsense because a

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Speaker 6: lot of the things that are put into player contracts

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Speaker 6: it benefits the owners, and through the collective bargaining and

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Speaker 6: process between the union, the players, and the ownership, over time,

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Speaker 6: some of that language that would you know, extraordinarily benefit

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Speaker 6: go against the bylaws agreed to by the players and

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Speaker 5: But this has been.

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Speaker 6: Such a adversarial and predatory relationship over the years, owners

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Speaker 5: Like that's in my brain what it looks.

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Speaker 6: Like sometimes when I'm watching an NFL game or an

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Speaker 5: Him back to health.

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Speaker 6: We move ten yards forward, and while that guy is

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Speaker 5: You're not because your knee is shattered. So when it.

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Speaker 6: Comes to an owner, especially when as out of touch

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Speaker 6: is Mike Brown playing hardball against a player who says,

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Speaker 6: you know, it is really vague to put a statement

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Speaker 6: like conduct detrimental to the football club in my contract.

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Speaker 6: I want this to be specified or I want it

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Speaker 6: out of my contract. It is really hard to side

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Speaker 6: ridiculous answer to an interview question like Mike Brown, the

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Speaker 5: Just gave there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean we saw this as Jerry Jones too.

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Speaker 4: I know we're gonna get to the Parson stuff at

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Speaker 4: some point today. These owners just kind of they are

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Speaker 4: very good at kind of parsing through this language. I mean,

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Speaker 4: they're most of these owners are businessmen. That's what they did. Like,

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Speaker 4: They're not you know, football guys to to a most degree.

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Speaker 4: They're they're business people and they got into football. But

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Speaker 4: the reason why that they're good at owning a team,

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Speaker 4: or I guess good at money, is because they're good businessmen.

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Speaker 4: I can't relate to this personally, Rich, I know you can.

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Speaker 4: The part of it I can relate to is when

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Speaker 4: I've in the past negotiated contracts in the television radio

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Speaker 4: industry and there are certain buzzwords that always bother me,

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Speaker 4: that always bother my lawyer when he reviews the deals.

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Speaker 4: And this is one of those buzzwords, like I think

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Speaker 4: the language and the deal is very specific. Like for me,

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Speaker 4: it's always they own you in perpetuity, like they can

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Speaker 4: use your likeness forever. Yeah, that's the one that always

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Speaker 4: gets me in the in the media contracts, it's like,

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Speaker 4: wait a minute, you own me forever, like in perpetuity,

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Speaker 4: and you always have to be very careful. Again, this

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Speaker 4: has nothing to do with football, but my point being,

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Speaker 4: these contracts never favor the employee. They always favor the

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Speaker 4: you know, he's been a businessman his entire life. He's

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Speaker 4: It's more about are the Bengals going to be impacted

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Speaker 4: with this Rich and you can allude to this much

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Speaker 4: I don't want to say like trauma, but you know,

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Speaker 11: Just because we signed him doesn't mean going to have him.

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Speaker 3: did summed this up pretty well. He just wrote, anytime

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00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: you can publicly take a dig at your star quarterback

440
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 3: and your star pass rusher simultaneously right before the season begins,

441
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,639
Speaker 3: you just gotta take it. And then he closed with

442
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than

443
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while

444
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 3: fighting for you. And Micah Parsons retweeted it. So now

445
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 3: we got all this drama going on. That's so unnecessary.

446
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:59,320
Speaker 3: Like Jerry Jones reminds me, I was thinking about this

447
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 3: last night. He reminds me of that scene in Pulp

448
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 3: Fiction where Marcellus is giving the envelope of money to Butch, you.

449
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:08,040
Speaker 4: Know what I mean.

450
00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: Like it's ving rams and he's holding that envelope of

451
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: money and Bruce Willis is like trying to take the

452
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 3: money away and ving Rames is not letting go of it.

453
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Speaker 2: That's Jerry Jones.

454
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: Jerry Jones is Marcellus holding on to the money like

455
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 3: for an uncomfortable amount of time, and the players just like, Okay,

456
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: can I get paid now?

457
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 2: Or what are we gonna make this as difficult as possible?

458
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 5: I get it.

459
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Speaker 2: Last thing I'll say is this.

460
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Speaker 3: I understand what Jerry Jones is saying, but this shows

461
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Speaker 3: you how you can be right and wrong at the

462
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: same time. He's correct in what he's saying, like, Hey,

463
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Speaker 3: this isn't the only thing you have to think of

464
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: when I'm writing the checks. I think of these things,

465
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 3: which is valid, But you're wrong at the same time

466
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Speaker 3: for just saying it out loud. That would be like

467
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: you say, hey, hey, gather around, everybody, gather around. Man,

468
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 3: look at my girl. She's put on some weight.

469
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 4: Huh.

470
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: Like you might be correct, maybe she did add some lbs.

471
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 3: But to say that it's completely wrong. That's how I

472
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,880
Speaker 3: feel with Jerry Jones. He might be correct in aspects,

473
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: but to say this publicly and to make it as

474
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 3: dramatic as it's going to inevitably become, he's wrong for

475
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 3: doing that. It's there just a sideshow all over again.

476
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 3: That's what happens every single time with the Cowboys.

477
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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a time and place for everything. You know,

478
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 6: when you meet a happily married couple, what they're showing

479
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 6: you is what they want to show you. But like

480
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 6: any relationship, whether you're talking about a romantic relationship or

481
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,200
Speaker 6: you're talking about a business relationship, I trust me if

482
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 6: it's a successful relationship. There have been turbulent times. There

483
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 6: have been hard discussions. There have been maybe potentially lines.

484
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Speaker 5: Crossed that either side never thought would be crossed. You know,

485
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know.

486
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 6: Every relationship is different, but you know what, a lot

487
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 6: of those conversations may may exist behind the scenes, and

488
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Speaker 6: what you know you see on a double date night

489
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 6: is very different than what happens when the doors closed

490
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Speaker 6: and you're onto the car ride home. You know, same

491
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 6: thing with the business relationship. Yeah, you know where the

492
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 6: San Francisco forty nine ers or where the New York

493
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 6: Jets are. In this case, we're the Dallas Cowboys, and

494
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 6: we play hard as a team, and we have all

495
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Speaker 6: these mottos that you know, we we recite.

496
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Speaker 3: You know.

497
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Speaker 6: Uh, there's big motivational posters on the wall inside of

498
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Speaker 6: our practice facility. But guess what, sometimes you have hard

499
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 6: negotiations that a lot is revealed during. You know, maybe

500
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 6: all of a sudden you find out that the ownership

501
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 6: is pretty unhappy with how unhealthy you have been over

502
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Speaker 6: the course of your over the course of your business

503
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 6: relationship together. You know, maybe they think that it's because

504
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,439
Speaker 6: you're too overweight, and maybe they want to put a

505
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 6: weight loss clause in your contract otherwise you won't hit certain.

506
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 5: Incentives, you know. I mean, I've seen contracts like that.

507
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 6: I've seen contracts where players aren't allowed to ride a

508
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 6: motorcycle because they've had one too many accidents.

509
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Speaker 5: You know. I've seen you know, specific activities.

510
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 6: Outside of the facility, whether it's you know, pick up

511
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 6: basketball or if they're into some sort of extreme sport

512
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 6: like skateboarding on a half pipe. You're not allowed to

513
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 6: do those things otherwise we'll avoid your contract.

514
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 5: And those things can get really contentious.

515
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 6: Because from a player or an ownership side, these are

516
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 6: very important details that must be added for this to

517
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 6: move forward, and both sides end up being disgruntled through

518
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Speaker 6: that process.

519
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 5: But a lot of that stays behind closed doors.

520
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 6: And then again, when you see whatever the team or

521
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 6: the couple or the friendship wants to present to the

522
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 6: rest of the world, well, that's what they want you

523
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 6: to see. Jerry Jones blurs that line too often where

524
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 6: he's taking all of the dirty laundry that normally you

525
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 6: take care of. You stick it in a hamper and

526
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 6: you take care of it when nobody's visiting a house,

527
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 6: and he pours it on the kitchen table during dinner

528
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 6: and everybody's like, you know, Jerry, is this the time

529
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 6: to sort through the dirty laundry. He's like, well, you

530
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 6: gotta find time to separate the socks and the whites

531
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Speaker 6: from the darks, and we gotta make sure that the underwear.

532
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 5: You know, we like to wash the underwear on hot

533
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: don't y'all.

534
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 6: Okay, well, we're gonna do that and by the way,

535
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 6: try the meatloaf. Peg does such a good job with

536
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 6: the meat loaf. It's like, right now, Jerry, we're doing

537
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 6: the dirty laundry right now. He doesn't care. And I

538
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 6: do agree with you, Brian. I think it's a bad

539
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 6: way to do business. I think some of the best

540
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 6: relationships I'm aware of they know time and place and

541
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Speaker 6: Jerry Jones does not.

542
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that is exactly my thoughts on this issue

543
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 4: when it comes to biting off more than you can chew.

544
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,919
Speaker 4: And Jerry, I'm sure is very capable of handling both roles,

545
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 4: you know, in his mind. But the first, actually the

546
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 4: first thing that I do every offseason, right when the

547
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 4: football off season happens, is I update my front office grid,

548
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 4: which is just general manager, head coach, offensive coordinator, the

549
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 4: play caller, defensive coordinator, and right next to each name,

550
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 4: I put how many years or what year they are

551
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: entering in that role. Well, there's only one guy that

552
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 4: has a three next to his name with a second digit,

553
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 4: and that's Jerry Jones, who is now entering his thirty

554
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 4: sixth season as general manager of the Dallas Cowboys. There

555
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: are people on this call right now that do this

556
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 4: show and produce this show and work on this show

557
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 4: that we're not alive. When Jerry Jones took that job over,

558
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 4: I was three, Like, it's a long time in the

559
00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 4: NFL to have that job. And obviously the reason that

560
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 4: he has it is because he's also the owner of

561
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: the team, and that is the part that is unique

562
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 4: here to me, these are two very different conversations. If

563
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 4: the owner was going up and giving a state of

564
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: the team address, there's no way that he would be

565
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 4: diving into this dirty laundry. That's why Mike Brown doing

566
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 4: it as the owner was like jarring. But as the

567
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 4: general manager, you understand it. You have two very different conversations.

568
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 4: If Micah Parsons calls Jerry Jones, is he talking to

569
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 4: the owner of the GM Like, it's almost like you

570
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 4: have to clarify which role he's in, because I think

571
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 4: those are two very different conversations, and I just don't

572
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 4: understand how you can wear those two hats and effectively

573
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 4: balance both worlds. They're very different worlds, and I wish

574
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 4: I was in one of them because they're both They

575
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 4: look like fun jobs, especially the owner and you have

576
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 4: all the money, But these are conversations that I don't

577
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 4: know if an owner really should be having publicly, but

578
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 4: he's also the so he kind of has to have him.

579
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 4: It's a very unique situation. But also Jerry pick up

580
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 4: the phone and call Micah, Like he's like, oh, I

581
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 4: didn't talk to him. I had people that talk to

582
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: him to his talk to his people, Mike, Jerry, pick

583
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: up the phone and call him. He's your best player, Like,

584
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 4: just get involved in that scenario. You're willing to air

585
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: the dirty laundry out in public to the media. Pick

586
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: up the phone and call him. I mean, again, that's

587
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 4: just me and my style. How I would have had

588
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: a relationship with a player if I was a GM.

589
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 4: But it's just unique how each GM and owner kind

590
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: of have their own little vibe and Jerry's got to

591
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 4: kind of balance both worlds, and I think that's one

592
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Speaker 4: of the reasons that we're kind of in this weird

593
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 4: back and forth.

594
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Speaker 3: This is Fox Sports Radio's Countdown, presented by Bett MGM. Yeah,

595
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Speaker 3: I wanted to shift gears because sad news this week

596
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Speaker 3: where we've had some well known deaths, right and some

597
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 3: of it connected to the sports world, with Hulk Hogan

598
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: passing away, Ozzy Osbourne passed away and Malcolm Jamal Warner,

599
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: who played the character Theo Huxtable on The Cosby Show,

600
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 3: all passed away this week and very sad news. Obviously,

601
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: your thoughts and prayers with the families and the loved ones.

602
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: That's the first thing I think about when some of

603
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 3: these guys like Hulk, Hogan, Ozzy, when they reached this

604
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 3: level of fame.

605
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Speaker 2: You know, a lot of people don't think of them

606
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: as anything but that.

607
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: You know, they think of Ozzy the musician, They think

608
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: of the singer, Hulk the pro wrestler, and that's it.

609
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: They don't see beyond that.

610
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 3: And it's like, these guys have families and loved ones

611
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 3: and you know what I mean, it goes well beyond

612
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 3: just what they're most known for. That's the first thing

613
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 3: I think of, But not to get too deep with it.

614
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 3: I thought about this with you two guys. Which of

615
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: those three did you spend time with the most over

616
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 3: the years? You know, not maybe probably didn't know them personally,

617
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 3: but was it Ozzy and his music, was it the

618
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: Holkster and his pro wrestling? I think for me it

619
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: was actually the Cosby Show. I think I spent the most.

620
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: I'm watching THEO on The Cosby Show growing up. I mean,

621
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: you know, I love rock music and all that. So

622
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: I've listened to Ozzie plenty and I love the nWo days,

623
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 3: in particular with Hollywood Hulk Hogan. You know, that's kind

624
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 3: of my entry point. It wasn't before that, but I

625
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: think it was THEO. I think it was Malcolm Jamal

626
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: Warner of the three. But I was curious how it

627
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: broke broke down for you guys who you spent the

628
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 3: most time with over the years.

629
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Speaker 6: What's interesting is I discovered Bill Cosby the Comedian before

630
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 6: Bill Cosby The Cosby Show, and so I had a

631
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 6: hard time separating sure, Bill Cosby the Comedian from Doctor Huxtable,

632
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 6: and so had I just had a hard time buying

633
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 6: into the script kind of thing.

634
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 5: And then in.

635
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 6: Terms of Hulk Hogan, again, like later in life, I

636
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 6: had a greater appreciation and awareness of what wrestlers do.

637
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 6: I think because I knew from the jump that obviously

638
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 6: outcomes were predetermined, it didn't interest me as much as sport.

639
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 6: But then finding out the behind the scenes stuff actually

640
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 6: made me appreciate what he and all those wrestlers fought

641
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 6: through their whole lives in order to entertain the masses.

642
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 6: But for me, it was Ozzy and I read his

643
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: autobiography and obviously watched The Osbourne's like many of us

644
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 6: on MTV, I mean, the producers of that show and

645
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 6: Ozzy and his family being so open to that concept

646
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 6: really revolutionized how we watched television.

647
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 5: But beyond that, I fell in love with his music.

648
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 6: First in the weight rooms of East Metal High School,

649
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 6: with my defensive line coach, strength coach Steve Anderson, shouting

650
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 6: Ozzy at the top of his lungs whenever Crazy Train

651
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 6: or any of his jams would come on, and the

652
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 6: stereo would be cranked and we'd be clinking the metal weights,

653
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 6: you know, in the blazing hot and ninety degree humid,

654
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 6: you know, Northeastern summers here in this country, because you know,

655
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Speaker 6: Long Island, New York, it doesn't get as hot as

656
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 6: like some of the you know, Southeastern weight rooms in

657
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 6: high schools, you know, like like in Date my Dade

658
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 6: County or Miami. But I mean we were cooking in there,

659
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 6: and man, that music fueled you. It absolutely did. It's

660
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 6: a rest in peace to all three of them. But

661
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Speaker 6: Ozzie was was definitely the most impactful loss.

662
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Speaker 4: I would say Hulk for me, and you know, I

663
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 4: differentiate the wrestler from the person. Obviously, I've learned a

664
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Speaker 4: lot about him. You know, later on in life. He

665
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: had some you know, transgressions that were very much public

666
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Speaker 4: and I don't buy into that mindset that that he

667
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 4: kind of had in those you know tapes that were

668
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 4: leaked in some of the things that he said. But

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Speaker 4: Hulk as the wrestler was very transformative in my early years.

670
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 4: I was a big wrestling fan. I was more into

671
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Speaker 4: the stone Cold Steve Austin, Sean Michael's bad boy type stuff.

672
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Speaker 4: But nWo was very impactful as well. Yeah, so it's

673
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 4: funny all three of us kind of have three different answers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 3: That is funny because yeah, I'm sure we've all spent

676
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 3: time with all three.

677
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, But the Osbourne's were was one of the

678
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: first really introductions to me to Ozzie. I wasn't a

679
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 4: big fan of his music. I was a little too

680
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: late for his music. Shame on you, Jared. That's the

681
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 4: way I know. I'm not into the metal like you.

682
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 4: That's not my bob. I was actually more of like

683
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 4: a cut classic rock R and B.

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Speaker 3: So you know it's funny, is I could if you

685
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 3: just gave me an episode of The Cosby Show. It's

686
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: so weird because of what happened with Bill Cosby and

687
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 3: being an epic creepster to say the least. But I

688
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 3: mean some of those episodes are just classics back in

689
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: the day where one of my favorite episodes was you know, uh,

690
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 3: Bill Cosby or Doctor Huxtable. He's trying to get through

691
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: the THEO like, you gotta have a real job, you

692
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: gotta make real money. You have all these expenses and

693
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: they're playing with fake money, like monopoly money, and he's like,

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00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 3: there is a problem, you know, like Bill Cosby, you

695
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 3: haven't eaten yet, And so he takes some of the money,

696
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: and THEO takes some of the money back and says,

697
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 3: I can survive on belownean cereal.

698
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 2: Like that line will always stick with me. I don't

699
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: know how.

700
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: Many years it's been, but there are many like that

701
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 3: where I just think about that show and yeah, man,

702
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: like I spent a lot.

703
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: Of time, you know that without Malcolm Jamal Warner.

704
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 3: Knowing that I spent a lot of time with the

705
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 3: Huxtables growing up man, there's some great episodes there, but hey,

706
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: we'll miss all three of course, and thoughts and prayers

707
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: to their loved ones because they're real people and go

708
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 3: well beyond their characters what they're most known for.

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Speaker 4: For sure.

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Speaker 3: Hey, be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio

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712
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Speaker 3: And be sure to subscribe to you always have instant

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Speaker 3: access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. We've

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Speaker 3: got Rich Orenberger, Penn State All American, Jared Smith FSR

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Speaker 3: betting analyst. I'm Brian Nell. Coming up next. It is

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Speaker 3: the parlay p Ladder. Weach have one selection for you.

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Speaker 3: We pull it together for a greater payout, and I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you what I'm feeling frisky slash crazy this morning.

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Speaker 3: You know, maybe spice this parlay up with the payout

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Speaker 3: we'll see. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by

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Speaker 3: bet MGM. It is Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by

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Speaker 3: bet MGM.

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Speaker 2: No time to waste, let's dive into this.

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Speaker 1: Check this out ar lay letter.

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Speaker 2: All right, the platter, We just have one selection for you.

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Speaker 3: We pull it together for a greater payout, and let

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Speaker 3: me tell you, it's pretty great prey payout today.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's gonna cash, but if it cash,

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Speaker 2: is a great payout. Jared with the first lake, what

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Speaker 2: do you.

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Speaker 5: Have for us?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, let's not suck today because the bet was made

734
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 4: and it's juicy because we have a twenty five percent

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Speaker 4: harlay boost over at BETMGM today. So this harlay was

736
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Speaker 4: originally under ten to one. Now it's over eleven to one.

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Speaker 4: So listen up and listen good. I'm going with the

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Speaker 4: under eight and a half. In the Dbacks Pirates game,

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00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 4: these two teams played a one nothing game yesterday. Go

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Speaker 4: back and look at the trends in history. Over the

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00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: last ten years or so, there have been seventy six

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 4: extra inning games that went into extra zero zero since

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00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. In the rest of the series after that game,

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00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 4: the under is thirty one and seventeen. And it makes sense, right,

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00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 4: two teams struggle to score, game goes to extra's neil

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Speaker 4: mil zero zero.

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Speaker 5: For the non.

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Speaker 4: Soccer people out there, typically that means that the offense

749
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Speaker 4: is it ain't your a week or I guess your weekend.

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Speaker 4: So Merrill Kelly, Andrew Heaney your pitching matchup today, Merrill Kelly,

751
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: this could be as flash start as a diamond back.

752
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 4: He could get traded next week. But I'll just back

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00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: the trends and say, low scoring game between Arizona and

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00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: Fifth Perk today under eight and a half, first leg

755
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 4: of the parilot.

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00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 6: Okay, let me go with Braves over Rangers today. I

757
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 6: think Grant Holmes matches up better than the numbers. So

758
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 6: right now he's four to nine in terms of wins losses,

759
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:07,240
Speaker 6: three point eightyra about but he's he's a better pitcher

760
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 6: so far this season than Rocker, who's shown promise his

761
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 6: last outing, but he's got inconsistent control so far this season.

762
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,760
Speaker 6: It's made him vulnerable, especially against a team with power

763
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 6: hitters like Olsen and Riley.

764
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Speaker 5: So give me the ifs, who.

765
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 6: Are a slight favorite minus one h two here today.

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Speaker 6: But it'll get juicy with that parlay, like you said,

767
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 6: and a little bit of an extra squeeze with that

768
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Speaker 6: incentive we got going on. Yeah, yeah, we have a

769
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Speaker 6: little incentive.

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Speaker 2: Jerry will tell us about a little boost nice. I

771
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: always love the boosts.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So there are two trends with two teams that

773
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: are facing each other today, and they both greatly favor

774
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: the Blue Jays. So the Blue Jays they have an

775
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 3: MLB best record this month of sixteen and four. Meanwhile,

776
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,280
Speaker 3: they're facing the Tigers who have lost a lot eleven

777
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: of their last twelve games. And more importantly, the Tigers

778
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 3: are not scoring runs. They've been outscored eighty three to

779
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Speaker 3: thirty two in that span of twelve games where they've

780
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 3: lost eleven of them. And so what can completely change

781
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: things that Trek Scoogle is pitching.

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00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,280
Speaker 2: To the Tigers today?

783
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: But if you look at the Blue Jays, they lead

784
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: the Majors with the least strikeouts as a team. So

785
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 3: Scoogle he had eleven strikeouts this last out in strikeout Artist, Well,

786
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: the Blue Jays do a great job of not striking

787
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: out at least putting the ball in play. If you

788
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: do that, good things are bound to happen. So there

789
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Speaker 3: are number of things I like with the Blue Jays.

790
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 3: I like them scoring over two and a half runs

791
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: on a team total. I like the schoolbl under strikeouts.

792
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: I also like the run line blue Jays plus one

793
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 3: and a half, that's minus a dollar thirty five.

794
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 2: But this is a yolo pick, all right. You only

795
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: live once, baby.

796
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 3: We're going Blue Jays plus one sixty five on the

797
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 3: money line.

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00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: They are more than live in this one.

799
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: With the Tigers not scoring runs, the blue Jays not

800
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: striking out, we get plus one sixty five.

801
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: If we're more than live, I gotta I gotta jump

802
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 2: on plus one sixty five. So that's what I have

803
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: for you, guys.

804
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 4: I like it a lot, I really do. The Blue

805
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: Jays have been really tough, like a cocker roach. They

806
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 4: won't go away, and that American league's being very very

807
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: pesky right now. So plus nine to forty nine the

808
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 4: odds of just the parlay, which is pretty good for us.

809
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 4: Usually we're in the five to one range. But BEDAMGM

810
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 4: has that twenty five percent boost today up to plus

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Speaker 4: eleven eighty six. Come on, cash us, here we go.

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00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: That's a payout right there, all right?

813
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 3: Coming up next college ball, including my Irish and their

814
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Speaker 3: nitty lyons.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

816
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Speaker 3: Yes, happy Saturday to you. Hope your day is off

817
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: to a fantastic start. We will get to college football

818
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: season win totals. Let's go yes, in just a few seconds,

819
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Speaker 3: say be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio

820
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 3: YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and

821
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,720
Speaker 3: you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows.

822
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 3: And be sure to subscribe to you always have instant

823
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 3: access to our Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. First things, first,

824
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: shout out to our trusted producer Bo Benson, because he

825
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 3: always emails me kind of like the skeleton of the

826
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Speaker 3: rundown with all the reads and stuff, and his email

827
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Speaker 3: just said it's beginning to smell a.

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Speaker 2: Lot like ball. Ball great, great way to send an email.

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Speaker 4: Love it.

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Speaker 3: And then shout out to Rich Shortly after that. I

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Speaker 3: sent out the rundown late last night and I got

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Speaker 3: like ball.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I got a bounce back email from Rich. It just

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Speaker 3: said out of office back Monday, July twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: Up to this week.

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Speaker 2: What's going on over there?

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Speaker 6: A little vacation time as a duly appointed iHeart employee.

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Speaker 6: You guys got my work email from my local show,

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00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 6: which I'm taking vacation time from, but work in the weekend.

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Speaker 5: What's so funny is this is gonna sound really really ridiculous.

842
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 5: I say to I say to my.

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Speaker 6: Wife Annie, I'm like, yeah, Mike, I'm gonna take the

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Speaker 6: whole week off from work. She's like, what about the

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00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 6: sports show on the weekend. I'm like, no, I can't

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Speaker 6: quit this.

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Speaker 4: I love that. First of all, thank you because we would.

848
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 4: This show is immaculate and I get comments all the

849
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: time about our chemistry. I'm not even joking.

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Speaker 5: Oh wow.

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00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 4: But also just the out of office sending him a

852
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 4: work email for a show is just that is awesome.

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00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,959
Speaker 4: Awesome up there, dude.

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00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 5: I'm I'm I'm such a like I'm pretending to be

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Speaker 5: corporate rich. I have no idea what I'm doing. I'm rich.

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00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 6: I'm I'm a neanderthal who was like, you know, like

857
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 6: it honestly does feel like Saturday Night Live used to

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Speaker 6: do a bit called Caveman Lawyer. Yes, that's how great, buddy,

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00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 6: That is exactly how I feel as a former football

860
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Speaker 6: player trying to like do.

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Speaker 4: The bifocate the corporate world.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they make me do training where it's like harassment

864
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Speaker 6: quizes or like this that and the other thing, you know,

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Speaker 6: security breaches.

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Speaker 5: I fail all of these quizzes. It's a I mean,

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Speaker 5: I'm a disaster. What can I tell you.

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Speaker 4: That's my favorite story of the week.

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Speaker 5: Right there. Yeah, yeah, there you go. So I'm currently

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Speaker 5: out of the office, and if anybody's wondering.

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Speaker 4: There you go. All right.

872
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 3: So college football season win totals, so this is a

873
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: neat way to do it. So there are four teams

874
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 3: that have the highest win totals at ten and a half.

875
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 3: This is all at bed MGM. And there are two, four, six,

876
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: seven teams that have the second highest win totals at

877
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 3: nine and a half. Okay, so we'll go in sections here.

878
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: We'll start off with the ten and a half group.

879
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 3: So there are four teams. Are you betting over or

880
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: under ten and a half on either of these teams?

881
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 3: It's Oregon, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Penn State. Now,

882
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: if you just take one team that you like the

883
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: over on the most and one team that you like

884
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: the under on the most, what would you tell me

885
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 3: out of those four teams that have a season win

886
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 3: total regular season right of ten and a half wins.

887
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 3: So we're just talking those twelve games in the regular season,

888
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 3: who do you like the most?

889
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: Who do you like the least?

890
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 6: So I guess I'll go with the team I like

891
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 6: the least first, and then I'll work backward, and so

892
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,479
Speaker 6: maybe maybe I'll spend a little bit more time thinking

893
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 6: about which one I like the most but the least. Look,

894
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,839
Speaker 6: I'm not one hundred percent sure if all of these

895
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 6: teams who have flipped conferences have felt the change as

896
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 6: much as I thought they would the first season around.

897
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 6: You know, Oregon's still very new to the Big Ten,

898
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 6: and it's possible that that that the reverberation of that

899
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 6: change in schedule hasn't been fully felt. There's a lot

900
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 6: of excitement, there's a lot of new and novelty that

901
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 6: you know, when you're talking about like the first rattle

902
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 6: out of the box. For some of these teams, they

903
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 6: may be able to overcome some early obstacles, but logistically

904
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 6: this is hard. And I look at all these other

905
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 6: teams in that that ten and a half win total range,

906
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 6: Notre Dame, Ohio State, Penn State. They all they I mean,

907
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 6: they all have consistency. I mean, outside of the teams

908
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,680
Speaker 6: that obviously they've added and the cross country flights that

909
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 6: they've added as a result, you know, I mean, they

910
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:48,879
Speaker 6: all have that consistency. So I'm gonna my knee jerk

911
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 6: reaction is Oregon. I trust them the least.

912
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 4: Okay, I think Notre Dame's got to be an under

913
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 4: Sorry Brian, Wow, it's it's a tough schedule at my

914
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 4: Week one, then they go to then they play A

915
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 4: and M, who they went on the road last year

916
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,919
Speaker 4: and beat them, so you know A and M wants

917
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 4: to go into South End and return that favor. You

918
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 4: got a couple of other really tough games USC. I

919
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: had Arkansas on the road, and I know Arkansas is

920
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 4: not great, but it's still an SEC team. So yeah, Like,

921
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 4: I think the quarterback situation is dramatically different. I think

922
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 4: the offensive line is gonna be good again. We love

923
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: Jeremiah Love, but I could definitely see two losses on

924
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 4: this Notre Dame schedule.

925
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: Interesting, I mean, you could be right.

926
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 3: What I find what stands out to me is for anybody,

927
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: for anybody who thinks that losses don't matter as much,

928
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: wins or losses don't matter as much in college football,

929
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 3: because they don't. We have twelve teams in the College

930
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: Football Playoff BCS era, we had two teams. If you

931
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 3: lost at the beginning of your season, it might be

932
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 3: over in terms of being one of the final two

933
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 3: teams standings. So if you feel like that, bet on

934
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 3: a season win total, because I'll.

935
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: Tell you what.

936
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 3: If you're on let's say Ohio State. If you're on

937
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 3: the over ten and a half wins and they lose

938
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 3: their first game at home to Texas, they can't lose

939
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 3: another game all year long, right, like a loss. With

940
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: these season win totals, if you're on the over, it's massive,

941
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 3: you know. So that's my first piece of advice is

942
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: if you want wins and losses to matter as much

943
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 3: as they once did, just bet on season win totals

944
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,880
Speaker 3: either way over or under, because it's gonna matter a

945
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: whole lot more. As far as an under, I think

946
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: that a lot of these teams, these top four teams

947
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 3: with ten and a half win totals, I think they

948
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 3: have a lot in common where if you can just

949
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 3: get over, say one hurdle, all of a sudden, you're

950
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 3: live for eleven and one. You know, if I'm looking

951
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 3: at if I'm looking at Penn State, right, they get

952
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 3: their first tough toe their non conference schedules a joke, Nevada,

953
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 3: FIU and Villanova, come on, what is it? But if

954
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: they get past Oregon, that's their first Big Ten game.

955
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: If they get past Oregon at home, it's like you've

956
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: got at Ohio State, which is gonna be tough later

957
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 3: in the season. If you're on the under Penn State

958
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 3: ten and a half wins and they get by Oregon,

959
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: you're in a position where.

960
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 2: You're like, come on, Hawkeyes, do you want to be there?

961
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 12: Like?

962
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: No, come on Hoosiers. Like someone in the Big Ten

963
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 2: upset this team.

964
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 3: You're looking really good if you can get by Oregon,

965
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: which is gonna be a tough test. But that's the

966
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: big hurdle. That's the turning point, the fork in the

967
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 3: road on Penn State schedule, over or under. I lean

968
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: toward the under on Oregon schedule because when you get

969
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 3: a new quarterback in there, different talent that's implemented. You're

970
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 3: on the road at Penn State pretty early in the season,

971
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 3: and that's a hurdle game for them. They get past that,

972
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 3: it's manageable, but I would lean toward the under. I'm

973
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 3: surprised that juice is as heavy as it is with

974
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 3: Oregon minus one sixty on the under ten and a half.

975
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: That's really juicy right there.

976
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, and the college football season, you know,

977
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 6: speaking more generally and taking the focus off these four

978
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 6: games or four teams specifically, there's so much volatility, or

979
00:50:23,120 --> 00:50:26,439
Speaker 6: I should say, so much more volatility in this game

980
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 6: than there is in professional football.

981
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 5: But then besides that, the added volatility of.

982
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm usually with these types of teams, there's

983
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 6: a pretty good known quotient, like you know who your

984
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 6: starting quarterback is going to be, by and large, you

985
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 6: know who some of the stars the playmakers are going

986
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 6: to be buying large.

987
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 5: But the fact that without having real contracts in this.

988
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 6: League, so to speak, in college football, the fact that

989
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 6: you could have a disgruntled player up and transfer out

990
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 6: of a program immediately and and by the way, he'll

991
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 6: find a soft landing spot if he's good enough elsewhere immediately.

992
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 5: I mean spending your money on college football futures.

993
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 6: You know, I'll ask I'll ask you this, Jared, because

994
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 6: you know you spend you know, you live in Vegas,

995
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 6: you spend a lot of time with people who put

996
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 6: together these these these these odds, these bookmakers. I mean,

997
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 6: is that something that that either a keeps people away

998
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 6: from futures more times than not in college football and

999
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 6: spend their money in the NFL, or these just as popular.

1000
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: Very popular. I think the college football win totals to

1001
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 4: me are so I've I think I've told you guys

1002
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 4: this before. But to me, the win totals are the

1003
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,800
Speaker 4: best way to bet. The futures market like the who's

1004
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:52,720
Speaker 4: gonna win the National Championship? Those bets the index markets

1005
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 4: where there's multiple options. You can bet this team, you

1006
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 4: can bet that team, Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Pence State,

1007
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 4: Eitherre's fifteen, twenty, thirty, forty fifty in the you know,

1008
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 4: college football case, hundred different teams that you can bet on.

1009
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 4: Those markets have higher hold, meaning the sportsbook keeps more

1010
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 4: on average per dollar wager, whereas the win total market,

1011
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 4: it's over or under, that's it, and that's a lower

1012
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: hold market. Also less volatility because over time, right, let's

1013
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: say you're betting Oregon over ten and a half wins.

1014
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 4: Let's say you're betting Penn State over ten and a

1015
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,479
Speaker 4: half wins. Penn State's gonna be favored in almost every

1016
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 4: game this year, So that's the side of the market

1017
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 4: you want to be on. Because later in the year,

1018
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 4: let's say when they do play Ohio State and they're undefeated,

1019
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 4: you can bet Ohio State and you know that if

1020
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: Penn State loses that game, you're gonna win your Ohio

1021
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 4: State bet. If Penn State wins that game against Ohio State,

1022
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 4: you're gonna win your Penn State over win total bet.

1023
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 4: So there's ways that you can balance your action later

1024
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 4: in the year that is much more efficient. Your risk

1025
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,280
Speaker 4: is not as risky when you're betting a win total,

1026
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 4: whereas if you're betting Penn State to win the National Championship, well,

1027
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: if they lose, it's done. You're screwed. You got no

1028
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 4: chance to win. Like, if they lose that game to Oregon,

1029
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 4: probably gonna drop in the market considerably, and their odds

1030
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 4: of aid making the cultural Wall playoff and b being

1031
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,080
Speaker 4: a high enough seed to really make a run or

1032
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 4: see just being a good team considerably go down. But

1033
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 4: if Penn State loses that game to Oregon, they could

1034
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 4: still go over ten and a half wins. So I

1035
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 4: just think there's a lot of outs, As our friend

1036
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 4: Bill Krackenberger will say, when you're betting a win total

1037
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,320
Speaker 4: compared to when you're betting a very specific high hold market,

1038
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 4: like who's gonna win the National Championship?

1039
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 3: All right, we'll have to go fast here fast on

1040
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,920
Speaker 3: the nine and a half win teams. Okay, so there

1041
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 3: are seven of them, and I just want one that

1042
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: you like the over on the most, one that you

1043
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: like the under on the most.

1044
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:50,720
Speaker 2: Okay.

1045
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 3: So it's gonna sound like, well, what seven teams, So

1046
00:53:54,239 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 3: I'll try to you know. So we got Boise State, Texas, Georgia, Miami, Alabama, Clemson,

1047
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: and Liberty shout out Conference USA in the nine and

1048
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 3: a half win territory. I like Georgia on the over

1049
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: and it's juicy minus a dollar ninety. I just think Georgia,

1050
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 3: it's just it's a really really talented, tough team, and

1051
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 3: they fizzled last year. They had a backup quarterback and

1052
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 3: they fizzled on a big stage against Notre Dame. And

1053
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 3: maybe you're like, eh, Georgia, But getting to ten and

1054
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 3: two with their schedule and they have a couple of

1055
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 3: tough games, I think they can do it at one

1056
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: of their toughest games is Texas at home. Think about

1057
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: them doubling up Texas on the road last season. That's

1058
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 3: gonna be a tough game for Texas.

1059
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 5: On the road.

1060
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 3: So I like Georgia on the over, and I don't

1061
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 3: want to be you know, like overreacting to last season.

1062
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: But I like Bama at plus money on the under.

1063
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 3: They're at plus one ZH five. I think there's just

1064
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 3: a lot of ways to get to three losses. Their

1065
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 3: first SEC game is at Georgia. That's gonna be very difficult.

1066
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 3: And then these other four games that I have circled

1067
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 3: as tough games. We need two losses of these four.

1068
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 3: Could you see this happening? You get Tennessee at South Carolina,

1069
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 3: LSU at Auburn. That just sounds like there could be

1070
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: two losses in that quartet right there, and then you

1071
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 3: know it's life in the SEC.

1072
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 2: Maybe at Missouri or you know Oklahoma is tough.

1073
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt upset them on the road last season, they get

1074
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 3: them again, So I could see Bama with three losses.

1075
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 2: I like their under.

1076
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I like the over for Texas two

1077
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 6: strong reasons. Why is a high talent level at quarterback,

1078
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 6: you know, making that transition to Arch Manning, who got

1079
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,400
Speaker 6: some game time under his belt last season, which was

1080
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 6: I think an integral part of his growth process, and

1081
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:55,919
Speaker 6: you could see superstar potential is unbelievably important. They pump

1082
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 6: out draft picks, but roster continuity is going to help

1083
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 6: them this up coming season, and then just scheduling. And

1084
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Speaker 6: I would also argue betting confidence. You know, I know

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00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 6: that doesn't matter as much because Johnny Public can skew

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00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 6: that a ton and I don't know where the sharp

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Speaker 6: money's going, but Texas is an overwhelming favorite to win

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00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 6: the national championship. I feel good about Texas. I feel

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00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 6: less great about Boise State. I'll take the under there.

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Speaker 6: When you rely so heavily on a running back like

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Speaker 6: they did a season ago, it's man, it's hard to

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Speaker 6: bounce back from that. And I watched this actually happen

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Speaker 6: at the college football level with the San Diego State

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Speaker 6: as Techs when Rashad Penny moved on to the NFL.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he was everything as gingenty was and potentially

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Speaker 6: more at the college.

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Speaker 5: Level, and it's it's hard to replace that production.

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Speaker 6: It's easier when you have a transition at or I

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Speaker 6: should say, when you have more denuity at quarterback and

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Speaker 6: you feel good about that position moving forward. Then if

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Speaker 6: you're relying on the running back room to try to

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Speaker 6: replace that production, So I would take I feel comfortable

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Speaker 6: on the under with Boise State. I feel comfortable on

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Speaker 6: the over with Texas.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Boise is an interesting case. I actually hadn't looked

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Speaker 4: at Boise until we put this in the In the rundown,

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Speaker 4: They're a big favorite Week one out South Florida. Air

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Speaker 4: Force is always a tough place to play anytime you

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00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 4: go at altitude, although Bois's used to it, and then

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Speaker 4: they got that game at Notre Dame. I feel like

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Speaker 4: Boise is gonna be okay. Daniels is a good coach

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Speaker 4: and they've got you know, Madson was a good quarterback

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Speaker 4: last year. I think Boise's probably a coin flip for me.

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Speaker 4: I think ten wins probably is fair. This is an

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Speaker 4: easy one for me in terms of an over though.

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Speaker 4: I mean Clemson's Clemson's winning ten games this year. People

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00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,440
Speaker 4: just accept it. Dabo is going to be in the

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Speaker 4: playoff again. It'll probably be in the ACC Championship again.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if they're gonna win it this year.

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Speaker 4: They were, they were almost almost lost it last year.

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Speaker 4: What a great game a game between Clemson SMU last year.

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Speaker 4: I think the ACC maybe not as talented at the top,

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Speaker 4: but I do think there's two or three decent teams.

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Speaker 4: Like I think Miami with Carson Beck's gonna they're gonna

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Speaker 4: score a bunch of points just like Miami did last year.

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Speaker 4: They're actually gonna be a carbon copy of last year's team.

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Speaker 4: I think a lot of points allowed, a lot of

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Speaker 4: points scored, and SMU is gonna be tough again with

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Speaker 4: Kevin Jennings and last year's a great coach. But Clemson's

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Speaker 4: got four first rounders in upfront. Defensively, I mean they

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Speaker 4: are loaded up front, especially in the front seven, and

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Speaker 4: Kate Klubnick is one of the most experienced quarterbacks in

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Speaker 4: the country. Top schedule, right, They're favored at home against

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Speaker 4: LSU Week one, and then they play an SEC team

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Speaker 4: their last game, their rivalry against South Carolina. They went

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Speaker 4: zero and three against the SEC last year. I think

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Speaker 4: they get one of those games against the SEC this year,

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Speaker 4: and then the rest of the ACC is relatively simple.

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Speaker 4: They do get SMU at home and they don't have

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Speaker 4: to play Miami, So I think Clemson winning ten feels

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Speaker 4: really strong for me.

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Speaker 4: We get it, we get it, we get it.

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Speaker 3: On as Mills Lane, you used to say on Thursday, right,

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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame game, And I just started thinking, what

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Speaker 3: type of action do you typically see the most of

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Speaker 3: in NFL preseason games?

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Speaker 2: Is it the full game? Is it the first half?

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Speaker 2: Is it the total? Where is the action?

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Speaker 12: Typically it's good to be back as always, and yeah,

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Speaker 12: so Hall of Fame game usually does get probably the

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01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 12: biggest handle of the preseason slate, just because we are

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Speaker 12: national TV. Everyone's just sitching for football to be back,

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01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 12: and we'll usually see kind of spread out. I think

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Speaker 12: you'll see a lot of i'd say sharper people targeting

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Speaker 12: some first half lines just because you know, you usually

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01:01:06,680 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 12: have an idea of who's going to be out there

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Speaker 12: for the first half and for how long. I'd say

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Speaker 12: you probably see more money lines than i'd say spreads,

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01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 12: probably some totals more so than spreads too. But I

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Speaker 12: think money lines is just you just have an idea

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Speaker 12: of like what coaches really want to go, you know,

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Speaker 12: win a football game in the preseason.

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Speaker 4: That's a great point. And I think the myth that

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Speaker 4: I'd like to bust, and I'm sure you're very pro

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Speaker 4: preseason being the sharp man that you are, Seamus, is

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 4: when people say, oh, if if you're betting the preseason,

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01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 4: you need to call the number like that is the

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Speaker 4: wrong take because I know a lot of pros who

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Speaker 4: think the preseason is actually more beatable than the regular

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Speaker 4: season because the numbers move right. It's more of a

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Speaker 4: liquid market. There's not as many eyeballs on it. And

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Speaker 4: if you are paying attention to the beat reporters, if

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Speaker 4: you are locked in with who's playing, who's thirteam running back,

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Speaker 4: who's the fourth team linebacker that's going to be on

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Speaker 4: the field, this is the one time of the football

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Speaker 4: season where you do have a little bit of an

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Speaker 4: edge over the sports books. Is that a true statement.

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Speaker 12: I once read a tweet from someone on gambling Twitter

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01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 12: who said they would gamble on their son's T ball

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Speaker 12: game if he thought he had an edge, and I

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Speaker 12: couldn't agree more. You could have a bad NFL regular

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01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 12: season betting wise for years, but if you're really in

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01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 12: tune to say your favorite team, you know how they're

1211
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 12: going to approach this game, you can definitely have an

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Speaker 12: edge on the sports books. This is the time of

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Speaker 12: the year where there's the most uncertainly about an NFL

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01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 12: game that you'll have all season. And when that is

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Speaker 12: the case, that is when you can have an edge

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Speaker 12: on the book maker. So I couldn't agree more.

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Speaker 10: Amen.

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Speaker 6: When you're looking at where the money is flowing in

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Speaker 6: terms of you know, longer term futures in the preseason here,

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Speaker 6: like Super Bowl odds and things like that, are there

1221
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 6: specific teams that at this point in the season so

1222
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Speaker 6: far have garnered the most attention, you know, maybe an

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01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 6: underdog or a longer shot that people are starting to

1224
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Speaker 6: lay a little money down on because you know, I

1225
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:14,919
Speaker 6: don't know, I mean.

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Speaker 5: For Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you could probably you could probably speculate and you'll

1228
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 6: probably be wrong anyways. So it kind of feels like

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01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,800
Speaker 6: one of those futures that you might want to take

1230
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Speaker 6: longer odds because that money disappears and when it comes back,

1231
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Speaker 6: maybe it comes back tenfold depending on what kind of

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Speaker 6: odds you're looking at.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, so so far. I mean the most VET teams

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Speaker 12: you've had in the top five most bet teams are

1235
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Speaker 12: you know, buying Still's Eagles, Ravens, Chiefs, So no surprises there.

1236
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Speaker 12: But then you have a team like that I've spewed

1237
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Speaker 12: about for reach thou as the Commanders. It's just been

1238
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 12: a lot of Commander's money coming in. It seems to

1239
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 12: be the pretty popular longer shot, even though the odds

1240
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 12: are like way shorter than they were years past. But

1241
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 12: you know, the Vikings have gotten some interesting action too.

1242
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Speaker 12: A lot of people think that this team does have

1243
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Speaker 12: a really high ceiling. If McCarthy can be as good,

1244
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Speaker 12: if not better than Donald was last year. I mean,

1245
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 12: the team is pretty deep after you look past the

1246
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Speaker 12: quarterback position, so that's definitely a team catching some eyeballs.

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Speaker 3: I'm kind of curious Sea miss the futures market, Like,

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Speaker 3: we're in the middle of the baseball season, and can

1249
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Speaker 3: you give us an idea in comparison how the futures

1250
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Speaker 3: market stacks up for you guys like predicting the World

1251
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Speaker 3: Series champ If you compare that, I would imagine the NFL,

1252
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 3: you know, greatly laps everybody with the popularity of how

1253
01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 3: much handle is generated, how much money is generated in

1254
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 3: betts with trying to pick the eventual Super Bowl champ.

1255
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Speaker 3: But could you kind of give us an idea what

1256
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 3: the futures market is like in terms of the money

1257
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,280
Speaker 3: that you draw in say the World Series champ, people

1258
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 3: predicting it compared to the NBA champ and the predictions

1259
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Speaker 3: for that.

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Speaker 12: The NFL futures market is one we'll see steady action

1261
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 12: the whole way. I mean, especially on Sundays, you see

1262
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 12: a team starting to go up big in the middle

1263
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 12: of the game, we'll start seeing some money come In NBA,

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Speaker 12: I mean, it's a weird one because it does like

1265
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 12: in years past it felt like, oh, like it's just

1266
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 12: gonna be the Warriors, or it's just gonna be the Celtics.

1267
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Speaker 12: Last year was a little different when there was a

1268
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 12: little uncertainty. I mean, you did have the shortest team

1269
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Speaker 12: end up winning it all with the thunder, But that's

1270
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Speaker 12: a different one. For baseball, I will say you see

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Speaker 12: a lot of it in the middle in the pre season,

1272
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,400
Speaker 12: spring training, a lot of futures for that, and then

1273
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 12: you'll start to see it ramp up around September when

1274
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 12: the playoffs are really starting to take shape. You might

1275
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,720
Speaker 12: see some action come in if there's a team on

1276
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 12: like a big like you know, eight or nine game

1277
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Speaker 12: win streak, just you know, betting on that happening. But

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Speaker 12: I will say MLB is definitely a sport where it

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 12: really starts ramping up the closer we get for the postseason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Baseball like and I reached this point Seamus every July,

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01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 4: usually right around the All Star break, where you just

1282
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 4: you see that light at the end of the tunnel

1283
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 4: for football and you lose that desire to really dive

1284
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 4: into the baseball markets every day where in May and

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01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 4: June it's like really the only show in town on

1286
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 4: a nightly basis, especially when the basketball in the hockey

1287
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: world slows down. Do you notice a dip in the

1288
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 4: daily game action for Major League Baseball around this time,

1289
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 4: right when the football lights start to flicker on? Or

1290
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 4: is it pretty hot and heavy through August in September

1291
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Speaker 4: with baseball daily action, even when football is kind of ramping.

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Speaker 12: Up preseason, you won't see as much as a dip

1293
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 12: then you would, and then we would get to week one.

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Speaker 12: By week one, you have the college you know about

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Speaker 12: to start Week two, so that's taking some action away

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Speaker 12: from MLB. I mean, football is king. We all know this,

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Speaker 12: so as soon as it comes back, you do start

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Speaker 12: to see you know a lot of people who just

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Speaker 12: fed on baseball just because it's the only thing on

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Speaker 12: right now, But now they have football, and for especially

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Speaker 12: with college, you'll have these games every day in the

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Speaker 12: week down, So you definitely start seeing a dip around

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Speaker 12: week one from MLB action.

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Speaker 6: Is there a strategy though, that you could say works

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Speaker 6: better than others? At this point in the Major League

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Speaker 6: Baseball season, like, for example, we're coming up on the

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Speaker 6: trade deadline, there's rumors flowing everywhere. You know, if you're

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Speaker 6: paying specific attention to your team and the rumors that

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Speaker 6: are hitting the mill, if you feel good about one

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Speaker 6: of those rumors, or you know, if you're early enough

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Speaker 6: to the books or to the window on a trade,

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Speaker 6: is there a way to capitalize on some early better

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Speaker 6: odds for you to find greater value or is that

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Speaker 6: something that you wouldn't suggest for a better who's paying

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Speaker 6: close attention to his team's futures promise.

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Speaker 12: I mean, it all comes down to the player, the

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Speaker 12: subject of the rumor. I think right now, Enniosuarez seems

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Speaker 12: to be the best hitter available right now on the board,

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Speaker 12: and you got to think, is that a guy who

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Speaker 12: team guests and it's like that's it, Like they're going

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Speaker 12: to go to the World Series. I think I don't

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Speaker 12: know about the World Series. Market depends on the team

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Speaker 12: and the player, but I think you probably have an

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Speaker 12: edge in something like to make the playoffs, which you

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Speaker 12: know it goes down every now and then, but it's

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Speaker 12: up a lot throughout you know, August and September. You

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Speaker 12: can get odds on that. So I'd say that's probably

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Speaker 12: the market you should target if that's what your you know,

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Speaker 12: your angle.

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Speaker 3: Is all right, Seamus, it is that time the shame

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Speaker 3: of special And I will tell you selfishly, I'm crossing

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Speaker 3: my fingers for a w NBA play.

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Speaker 2: I just not to put any pressure on you, But what.

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Speaker 4: Do you have for us?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Fresh out of w NBA to the But you know

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Speaker 12: everyone's talking about, you know, preseason football. It's coming up

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Speaker 12: from Thursday. But preseason football happening literally right now, literally

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Speaker 12: this morning. I'm going to bed Life to see Everton

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Speaker 12: FC play Bournemouth in the Premier League Summer Series. So

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Speaker 12: we'll turn our attention to that. We're gonna go with

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Speaker 12: over two and a half parlayed with both teams to score.

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Speaker 12: Bournemouth lost a lot of experience at the back and

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Speaker 12: at the top, Tall and players in our back line.

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Speaker 12: I think there's gonna be goals in this and I

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Speaker 12: think Everton can nick one in the end.

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Speaker 3: Okay, great stuff will take anything that makes sense, Seamous.

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Speaker 4: You always delivered. I don't think I've ever bet a

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Speaker 4: preseason EPL match until today, till today.

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Speaker 5: Here we go check.

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Speaker 3: List item All right, Seamus, great stuff man, Hope you

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Speaker 3: have a great rest of the day.

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Speaker 1: Bud.

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Speaker 2: We'll catch you soon.

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Speaker 12: Appreciate it. Guys, have a good one.

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Speaker 5: There.

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Speaker 3: He is Seamus McGee, team lead of Sports Trading at BETMGM.

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Speaker 5: Swung on drive to left field?

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Speaker 4: Did he do it? He did?

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Speaker 2: Four home runs for Nick kurts Is six for six.

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Speaker 4: Oh my, a four homer game for Nick Kertz.

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Speaker 5: The A's laid fifteen to two.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, four homers? They had what eight RBIs six runs.

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Speaker 4: Believable. That's at him again today, but it's kind of hard.

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Speaker 3: That's the only the twentieth for homer game in MLB history.

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Speaker 3: It's the first by a rookie. And correct me if

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Speaker 3: I'm wrong. Does it feel more like a passing? Like

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Speaker 3: oh yeah, cool man, cool bro. You know that's what

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Speaker 3: it feels like when it's a four home run game.

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Speaker 3: There were twenty There have been twenty four perfect game

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Speaker 3: in MLB history, so it's actually rarer for the four

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Speaker 3: homer game.

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Speaker 2: But we might lead the show with a perfect game.

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Speaker 3: But we'll just like, oh yeah, hey, by the way,

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Speaker 3: four homers from Nick Kurtz.

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Speaker 2: Only rookie ever to do it. It's just like an oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way thing, Why is that?

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Speaker 5: That's crazy?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think maybe the perfect game has a little more

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Speaker 4: like you know, like per like perfect, Like I think

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Speaker 4: it's the word of it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the amount of work. Also, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: you're on the mound that.

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Speaker 6: Entire time, all those half innings, whereas you know, Nick,

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Speaker 6: he took the plate four times, and something great happen

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Speaker 6: each time, you know what I mean, Like maybe he

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Speaker 6: may have only swung the bat four times. You know,

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Speaker 6: I didn't watch the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know. So it's a lot. It's a lot

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Speaker 5: harder to throw a perfect game.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: My favorite thing about the perfect game is is towards

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Speaker 4: the end when nobody talks to the picture in the

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Speaker 4: in the in like the dugout on like the seventh

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Speaker 4: like you know, right before they go back out for

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Speaker 4: like one of the last inning, seventh d eighth inning,

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Speaker 4: ninth inning, and like he's just sitting there in the

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Speaker 4: dugout by himself, like, yeah, he wants to go up.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious what you guys think about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw the story where ESPN and the

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Speaker 3: NFL are close to signing a deal for ESPN to

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Speaker 3: purchase NFL Network and Red Zone that's for a reported

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Speaker 3: two billion dollars. Yeah, and I'm just curious what you

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Speaker 3: think of that because for me, I'm not smart enough

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Speaker 3: to foresee if that goes through what it's gonna where

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Speaker 3: it's gonna end up, you know what I mean. I

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Speaker 3: just think like very you know, surface level speaking, Hey,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have to pay to watch the NFL.

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Speaker 5: We all know this.

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01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 3: The price is going up and up the platforms, like

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Speaker 3: where it is, you're gonna have to pay.

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Speaker 5: I get that.

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Speaker 2: I'm not one that's gonna whine about that.

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Speaker 5: It is what it is.

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Speaker 3: But I just hope that it doesn't become where these

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Speaker 3: games are on certain platforms and you have to pay

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Speaker 3: this entrance fee, and it's gotten to the point where

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Speaker 3: there are a lot of NFL fans that just don't

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Speaker 3: do it. Because that's one of the coolest things about

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Speaker 3: the NFL is we're typically all on the same page.

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Speaker 3: We all just watch the game, we all have our opinions,

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Speaker 3: let's chop it up and talk about it. But if

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Speaker 3: these games are in all these various locations and some

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Speaker 3: people are like, yeah, I don't get that section of

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Speaker 3: games and we're not talking about them the same way.

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Speaker 2: I just hope it doesn't go there.

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Speaker 6: But that's the way with you, Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 6: community of football is what's made it so much more. INJRO,

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Speaker 6: I would say the urgency first, obviously all these games

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Speaker 6: mattering so much, but then the community of football second

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Speaker 6: is what's made it America's pastime and really lapping the

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Speaker 6: other major sports in this country. But I have an

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Speaker 6: interesting take on this because I saw that article and

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Speaker 6: I thought, immediately, why on earth would the NFL sell

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Speaker 6: this now? Like, unless they think it's possible that they've

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Speaker 6: reached an apex, so to speak, in terms of popularity,

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Speaker 6: and they're expecting it to continue to climb potentially and

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 6: then start hitting a down shift at some point here

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Speaker 6: in the near future in terms of attention and viewership

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Speaker 6: and all those things, then why would they do this?

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Speaker 6: And one of the thoughts that occurred to me was

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01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 6: maybe their intention isn't to sell. Maybe their intention is,

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Speaker 6: without tipping their hand to the players, exactly how much

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01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 6: the league is worth, what they're trying to do is

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 6: showcase exactly how much some of the things are worth

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01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,120
Speaker 6: on the open market. So if new ownership blood wants

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01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 6: to buy into the NFL, they can tout a higher

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01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,519
Speaker 6: price tag. It's like, well, hey, look that deal fell through.

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Speaker 6: With ESPN, but they were willing to buy for this

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Speaker 6: many billions of dollars in rights packages. So that's the

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Speaker 6: reason why when the name it, I'm making something up.

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Speaker 6: But the Arizona Cardinals or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers go

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Speaker 6: up for sale, that team or a stake in that

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01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 6: team is worth so much more because the NFL is

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Speaker 6: that that expensive to buy into, even from a media

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Speaker 6: rights package standpoint.

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Speaker 5: So maybe it's just.

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Speaker 6: Getting a sawt off the praisal from the outside to

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Speaker 6: help these owners boost the value of their assets, you

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Speaker 6: know what I mean, Because an asset, it's only as

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Speaker 6: what do you call valuable as the value people put

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Speaker 6: on it.

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Speaker 5: I like that theory.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I'm convinced that that's a big reason why the

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01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 4: Lakers made the trade for Luca when they did, because

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01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:31,800
Speaker 4: the sale was coming. How can we and that's not

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01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 4: artificially inflating, but if you know you're about to sell

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Speaker 4: an asset, you are trying to raise the value of

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Speaker 4: that asset considerably. So maybe there is some NFL transactions

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Speaker 4: with teams on the horizon, But I believe ESPN's getting

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Speaker 4: a Super Bowl in two years, so I think that

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01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 4: might also be part of this. They just want to

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Speaker 4: continue their relationship with the NFL and cement that super

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Speaker 4: Bowl coming. I think it's in twenty seven. I think

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Speaker 4: ESPN gets it's their first Super Bowl. I believe I

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Speaker 4: could be wrong on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know if this is going to

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Speaker 3: go through, but it makes sense for ESPN when they're

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Speaker 3: doing the direct to consumer service have another like hey,

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01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 3: hey you can get this too, Yeah, you know, so

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01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 3: makes sense that they would try to walk down that road.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what comes of it.

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Speaker 3: We've got Rich Hornberger, Penn State, All American, Jared Smith FSR,

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Speaker 3: betting analyst.

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Speaker 2: I'm Brian No coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Prop it up.

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Speaker 2: That's right, the prop betting market.

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Speaker 3: We shall compare extensive notes, maybe extensive WNBA notes.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll find out.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's do this.

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01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 1: Prop it up player plays all.

1510
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,920
Speaker 3: Right, the prop betting market. Jared, we start with you.

1511
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 3: What's something you like?

1512
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll go to my hometown team today and I'll

1513
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 4: focus on the New York Yankees, who get a new

1514
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 4: hot stick in the lineup. Ryan McMahon making his Bomber's

1515
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 4: debut lefty lefty matchup today against Ranger Suarez. However, he

1516
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 4: does have really good career numbers against Suarez, five for

1517
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 4: thirteen lifetime two home runs. Of course, the lefty lefty

1518
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: splits can be weird sometimes, but McMahon, when I was

1519
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 4: looking up his career numbers, he's batting about the same

1520
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,360
Speaker 4: against righty's compared to lefty, so you don't see this

1521
01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,360
Speaker 4: wide gap. Usually lefties sometimes they batting one hundred points

1522
01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 4: lower against lefties and right He's only thirteen points lower

1523
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:56,280
Speaker 4: two forty four against righty's in his career two thirty

1524
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 4: one against lefties. Obviously significantly more at bats against right

1525
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,759
Speaker 4: to pitching, but Suarez has kind of had his moments

1526
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 4: this year where he's been up and down. Really high

1527
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 4: scoring game yesterday between these two teams. Plus one thirty five,

1528
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 4: over one and a half hits runs and RBIs her right.

1529
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 4: We want to get paid for when players do their job.

1530
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 4: Zach flyes, lock run scored. All of those things count

1531
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,720
Speaker 4: for this prop market. So Ryan McMahon over one and

1532
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 4: a half her hits runs on RBIs plus money making

1533
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:24,800
Speaker 4: his bomber's debut.

1534
01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm going to go to the w because Brian,

1535
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:33,160
Speaker 6: know you were really laying laying on Shamus Hard to

1536
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 6: get us some WNBA props or picks today and he

1537
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 6: went EPL preseasons.

1538
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,639
Speaker 5: So check this out, key key boy.

1539
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:47,240
Speaker 6: I'm gonna struggle with the last yea yeah, ira a Fin,

1540
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 6: thank you, thank you, Irefin. Over the last five games,

1541
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 6: she's been over her rebound totals in each of those

1542
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 6: games except for the very last one against Las Vegas,

1543
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go with the Mystics forward with over

1544
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 6: seven and a half rebounds, the performance suggests that she

1545
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 6: should clear this comfortably, So yeah, give me the over

1546
01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:12,799
Speaker 6: on the rebounds pop for Kiki Heafy.

1547
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 2: Okay, she has been a rebounding machine, no doubt about that.

1548
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: So I definitely get where you're coming from.

1549
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:19,680
Speaker 5: Rich.

1550
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the rebounding market for the WNBA

1551
01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,479
Speaker 3: as well. And you might want to get really crazy

1552
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 3: and try to thread the needle here. But Sparks at

1553
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 3: the Liberty today, So check this out in terms of pace,

1554
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,400
Speaker 3: Liberty number one in pace, Sparks number three in pace.

1555
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: So they're gonna be moving, They're gonna be.

1556
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 3: Going quick, a lot of shots, a lot of rebounding opportunities. Now,

1557
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 3: I love my girl, John Quelt Jones. She's a really,

1558
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 3: really talented player. She's back as the center for the Liberty.

1559
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 3: She had an ankle injury, missed a bunch of games.

1560
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 3: She's finally back. She might be on a minute's restriction, huh,

1561
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 3: says second night of a back to back for the Liberty.

1562
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 3: So if she's playing your normal minutes, I would love

1563
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 3: over eight and a half rebounds, she probably will not be,

1564
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,760
Speaker 3: so under eight and a half is live for John

1565
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 3: qwell Jones. And then who's gonna pick up the rebounding slack?

1566
01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 3: If that's the case, well, I look to Stuwie Rihanna

1567
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 3: Stewart over six and a half rebounds. I think is

1568
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 3: a solid play, and you might want to get a

1569
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 3: little saucy Sabrina Sabrini Ynescu over four and a half rebounds.

1570
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 3: That's plus money at plus one twenty, So keep that

1571
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 3: in mind as well. With John Qwell Jones possibly on

1572
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 3: a minute's restriction. I think a couple of those plays

1573
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 3: are more than live. You got a trio to pick from.

1574
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:39,360
Speaker 3: Just pick your combo platter of choice there if you'd Likeay,

1575
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:39,800
Speaker 3: I like it.

1576
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:40,639
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1577
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 4: How about Nick Kurtz over one and a half herds

1578
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:44,840
Speaker 4: plus one ten today?

1579
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 11: Can he go?

1580
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 4: Can he do it again?

1581
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 6: Oo? Oo?

1582
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 5: Can you be with four more home runs?

1583
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 4: He doesn't need four home runs, he only needs a

1584
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 4: base hitting an rbhid we get this sucker home at

1585
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 4: plus one ten?

1586
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:57,280
Speaker 2: Hey, man, what do you have? Eight RBIs? Who was

1587
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 2: six for success?

1588
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 4: He had like thirty hers last night?

1589
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, they mentioned his total basis. I think he might

1590
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 2: have had it was like nineteen or twenty.

1591
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 4: Total base That's a good month for some guys.

1592
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:11,679
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

1593
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 4: For home runs, that is.

1594
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,200
Speaker 3: Insanity, man, that's that's pretty crazy Hunter Brown going for that.

1595
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a tough matchup today. I was looking at

1596
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 4: the nerfy in that game. I think the nerfy in

1597
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 4: that Blue Jays Tigers game was in there too. Good,

1598
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:24,760
Speaker 4: might hear that later?

1599
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: All right, coming up next.

1600
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 3: It's refreshing that this time there aren't comparisons to rob

1601
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:34,960
Speaker 3: our Joy. Oh what is going on? Happy Saturday to you?

1602
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,600
Speaker 3: No comparisons to rob our Joy. We'll get to that

1603
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 3: in a few seconds. Hey, you can stream the show

1604
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,320
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1605
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,200
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1606
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,280
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1607
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 3: us live. And one of the newest features in the

1608
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 3: app is that you can select Fox Sports Radio as

1609
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,840
Speaker 3: one of your presets, just like the presets on a

1610
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 3: radio dial.

1611
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,400
Speaker 2: So be sure to preset Fox.

1612
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:01,759
Speaker 3: Sports Radio in the iHeart Radio app and it'll always

1613
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,720
Speaker 3: pop up at the top of your screen. Okay, so

1614
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 3: you've heard before that comparison is the thief of Joy, right.

1615
01:22:09,560 --> 01:22:11,320
Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard that before, and there's a lot

1616
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:14,040
Speaker 2: of truth to that, you know.

1617
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about Scotty Scheffler, who just won

1618
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 3: another major, won the Open Open Championship.

1619
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 2: You have to say it like that.

1620
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 3: I think he won the Open Championship or i e.

1621
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,879
Speaker 3: The the British Open. Right last week. He's got four majors,

1622
01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 3: and he was asked about these comparisons between himself and

1623
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:37,960
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods. And listen to what Scotty Scheffler had to

1624
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: say about that.

1625
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 13: I still think they're a bit silly. You know, Tiger

1626
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 13: won fifteens, it's my fourth. Could just got one fourth

1627
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,320
Speaker 13: of the way there, So just I mean, it's I

1628
01:22:50,400 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 13: think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf.

1629
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:56,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know Scotty downplayed it for sure.

1630
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:58,920
Speaker 3: There is a stat out there, pretty interesting right where

1631
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 3: Scheffler won his fourth major one and ninety seven days

1632
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 3: after he won his first major, and Tiger Woods won

1633
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 3: his fourth major one one hundred ninety seven to the

1634
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,960
Speaker 3: day that he won his first major.

1635
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:18,840
Speaker 2: That's insane, that's really crazy.

1636
01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 3: But I mean what I take away is you'll hear

1637
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:26,480
Speaker 3: a couple of things like, hey, is Scotty getting closest

1638
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: to Tiger Maybe not the same or on the the

1639
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,480
Speaker 3: same path, but is he the closest to the dominance

1640
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 3: of Tiger you'll get that, but you don't have these

1641
01:23:36,320 --> 01:23:39,720
Speaker 3: comparisons that sort of steal the joy out of it, right,

1642
01:23:40,360 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 3: Like I couldn't help but think, and I don't.

1643
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 2: Want to do Lebron versus Jordan.

1644
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,600
Speaker 3: That's not what I'm aiming to do here. But for

1645
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:51,639
Speaker 3: the longest time, with Lebron, it's like angry face. Yeah,

1646
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,879
Speaker 3: but he's not Jordan. You know, there's not that with Scotty.

1647
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 3: There isn't this He's not Tiger, you know, this angry face.

1648
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 2: Yet it's not like that.

1649
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,560
Speaker 3: So it's a lot more refreshing that there isn't that

1650
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 3: comparison that's always just robbing your joy. I'm glad that's

1651
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: not the case with the Scotti Tiger. Like, oh, by

1652
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 3: the way, comparison, that's really all it is. It's nothing

1653
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 3: that we harp on at all. So I find out

1654
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:18,640
Speaker 3: to be a lot more refreshing.

1655
01:24:19,240 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 5: I agree with you.

1656
01:24:20,439 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 6: I think that when you're a fan of a player,

1657
01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 6: and anytime you express your your interest or your whatever,

1658
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 6: your love, even because I do think that emotion isn't

1659
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 6: inappropriate when we're talking about sports conversations.

1660
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 5: People fall in love with players.

1661
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 6: Having somebody immediately shout you down because he's not as

1662
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 6: good as player X, or yeah, well he never won

1663
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:53,600
Speaker 6: championships like player X. It's like, okay, hang on, what

1664
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 6: does that have to do with my admiration for what

1665
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 6: this player has done? And by the way, that admiration

1666
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 6: is subjective, maybe you're not even basing it off of

1667
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 6: the fact that Scotty Scheffler is so great. Maybe you're

1668
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 6: basing it off of an interview that you love to

1669
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 6: listen to and how he bounces family life and being

1670
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 6: a golfer and.

1671
01:25:14,840 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 5: The PGA Tour. That's a tough life. That's a tough

1672
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 5: life to balance a lot of the personal with the professional.

1673
01:25:22,600 --> 01:25:23,320
Speaker 5: Or maybe you love.

1674
01:25:23,240 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 6: Scotty Scheffler or any athlete because you know, maybe you

1675
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 6: had a personal interaction passing through the airport, you went

1676
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,680
Speaker 6: to an actual tournament and he signed a golf ball

1677
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 6: for you, Like you're absolutely right, Brian. Like this culture

1678
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 6: we live in, and I think it's somewhat fueled by

1679
01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 6: social media debates that have become way, way a way

1680
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 6: bigger part of how we communicate about sports, where we

1681
01:25:48,040 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 6: have to shout down somebody's opinion like it doesn't matter

1682
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 6: because player why isn't as good? As player X is

1683
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 6: such a foolish waste of time and breath and energy.

1684
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,960
Speaker 6: I appreciate the way Scotty Scheffler handled this because, frankly,

1685
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 6: why make your story Tiger Woods story? Make your own,

1686
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 6: make your own story. And and I also like the

1687
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 6: fact that he said, hey, you know, I'm not even

1688
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 6: near the same platitude yet. And guess what I mean,

1689
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,160
Speaker 6: this is objectively now, he's one hundred percent right. Maybe

1690
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 6: the trajectories look similar, but man, the end result to.

1691
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 5: Get to where Tiger got.

1692
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,320
Speaker 6: The Hey, isn't even halfway in the barn here, like

1693
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 6: he said, it's only a quarter of the way in

1694
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:35,639
Speaker 6: the barn.

1695
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 5: That's a long way to go. So I really like

1696
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 5: how Scotty handled the question.

1697
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 4: I he's really done a lot of work on himself.

1698
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,679
Speaker 4: When I watched the interview last week before the open,

1699
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:49,960
Speaker 4: whenever that was I forget. I get my weeks blended

1700
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 4: together now, and he was basically saying, yeah, you know,

1701
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:56,720
Speaker 4: we're more than our job, and you know a lot

1702
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 4: of times we you know, get wrapped up in this.

1703
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 4: And and just his ability to step back from the mayhem,

1704
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 4: I mean, being a professional golfer, and I don't think

1705
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:07,640
Speaker 4: it's the hardest thing to do in sports. I think

1706
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 4: it's maybe second or third. I think hitting a baseball

1707
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 4: round ball, round bat ninety five miles an hour sometimes

1708
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,559
Speaker 4: it's coming at your head. I think that's the hardest

1709
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:17,280
Speaker 4: thing to do in sports. I think the second hardest

1710
01:27:17,320 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 4: thing to do in sports, and this is up for debate,

1711
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,519
Speaker 4: is consistently hit a golf ball long and straight and

1712
01:27:22,600 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 4: then shape it the way these guys do. It's incredibly difficult,

1713
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 4: and it takes so much time and energy focus just

1714
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 4: to do that well. And you have no teammates unlike

1715
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,519
Speaker 4: other sports that can help you along the way. It's

1716
01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:37,000
Speaker 4: just you and the ball and the hole and that's it.

1717
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 4: And I thought for him to be able to step

1718
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 4: back and say, we are so much more than this job,

1719
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,040
Speaker 4: and I know it consumes us, and just his ability

1720
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 4: to do the work on himself. To have that self

1721
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: awareness I think is paramount in sports because a lot

1722
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 4: of these guys, you have to have that almost toxic

1723
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:57,760
Speaker 4: masculinity like confidence through the roof to be able to

1724
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 4: compete at this level. I think he has this kind

1725
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,439
Speaker 4: of softness in this emotional depth to him that allows

1726
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 4: him to look beyond the game and himself and anything

1727
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 4: he says that is like on that level, I'm with

1728
01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 4: him because I can feel that frequency coming through when

1729
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 4: he speaks, and there's no comparison to him and Tiger.

1730
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 4: There isn't. Tiger took the game to another level at

1731
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 4: a time in Gulf where there wasn't a transcendent player.

1732
01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 4: There was a lot of mess. There was a lot

1733
01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:30,759
Speaker 4: of kind of mediocrity. Right, this is post Arnold Palmer.

1734
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 4: This is really post Jack Nicholas. This is mid to

1735
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,960
Speaker 4: late nineties when you know Ernie Els and these guys

1736
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,120
Speaker 4: are like the best players, maybe not as you know,

1737
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 4: as strong personalities as Tiger was. And then this brash,

1738
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 4: exciting player comes in who's racially diverse, like it just

1739
01:28:47,000 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 4: it changed the sport in such a way because of

1740
01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 4: his athleticism and the way he approached his preparation. Scotty

1741
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 4: is on that level, but he's not the first person

1742
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,360
Speaker 4: to bring it to that level. And that's where I

1743
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 4: think he's not even close to Tiger. And it's not

1744
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:03,240
Speaker 4: a knock on Scotty. I think Scotty is the best

1745
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 4: player in the sport right now. But Tiger is such

1746
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 4: a generational talent and you know, bringing the sport to

1747
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 4: a different level of awareness on the national stage. I

1748
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 4: think there's no comparison.

1749
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's true.

1750
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 3: I think it's what you focus on, right if you

1751
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:23,519
Speaker 3: look at the whole Enchilada, as you threw out there, Jared, Like, yeah,

1752
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,599
Speaker 3: there's a difference there if you're just looking at dominating golf.

1753
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 3: There are some comparisons there between Scotty and Tiger. And

1754
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 3: we just threw out the stat of the same span

1755
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 3: between their first and their fourth majors, like to the

1756
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 3: day is pretty crazy. And the amount of tournaments that

1757
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 3: Scotty has won and the amount of majors he's won

1758
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 3: in a short span, like, he's absolutely dominating golf right now.

1759
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,880
Speaker 3: So there are some things that you could say, Okay,

1760
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 3: that's not the craziest thing to mention, Hey, is this guy,

1761
01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: you know, dominating to a.

1762
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 2: Comparable level as Tiger did.

1763
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 3: I don't think that's out and to say, but I

1764
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 3: will say this is what I do know is Scotty

1765
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:09,120
Speaker 3: has certainly downplayed the comparisons. That wasn't Lebron's approach at all, right, Like,

1766
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 3: and I don't think anyone's at fault.

1767
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, hey, look at Scotty. That's the way.

1768
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 2: It's just different.

1769
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 3: Scotty has downplayed it that that's not He might literally

1770
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 3: think that, like, that's pretty ridiculous to compare me to Tiger.

1771
01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 3: And he tells you his reasons why Lebron did not

1772
01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 3: run away from that at all. If anything, he amplified it.

1773
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 3: This was this was after the three to one comeback

1774
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:35,080
Speaker 3: against the Warriors, which was unbelievable, and he's in Cleveland.

1775
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 3: They won a championship, and this is what he said

1776
01:30:37,479 --> 01:30:38,479
Speaker 3: on more than an athlete.

1777
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: Check this out.

1778
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 14: This is very different than Scotty super super ecstatic the

1779
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:45,360
Speaker 14: win one for Cleveland because of the fifty two year drought,

1780
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:48,679
Speaker 14: Like I was ecstatic, like obviously show that the first

1781
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 14: wave of emotion was when y'all everyone saw me crying,

1782
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,400
Speaker 14: like that was all for fifty two years, everything the

1783
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:54,639
Speaker 14: sports have gone on in Cleveland.

1784
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:57,519
Speaker 5: And then after I stopped, I was like.

1785
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 14: That one right there, made the greatest player of all time.

1786
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 2: Now that's what blows my mind.

1787
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 3: Now, Now think if Scotty did this seriously, and let's

1788
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 3: try to make it as as comparable as possible. So

1789
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 3: that was Lebron's third championship. Jordan has six.

1790
01:31:14,200 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 4: We all know that, So.

1791
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 3: Imagine if Scotty got halfway to Tiger's major's total, Like

1792
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,960
Speaker 3: it's an odd number with Tiger with fifteen, So imagine

1793
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 3: if Scotty, let's say he got to his eighth major

1794
01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:29,639
Speaker 3: and it was this traumatic comeback. He won the Masters

1795
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 3: in epic fashion, and then he goes on some show

1796
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, I sat back and said that

1797
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 3: one right there made you the great.

1798
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 2: There'd be a lot of people.

1799
01:31:39,240 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 3: That would say, uh no, it didn't know, it did not,

1800
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 3: And Lebron has chased that for a while, man, and

1801
01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 3: I think that's what amplifies a lot of the reaction,

1802
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 3: and it's an overreaction. There are a lot of people

1803
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,720
Speaker 3: that haven't enjoyed Lebron's career because they're so hell bent

1804
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 3: on saying he's not better than Jordan. It's a great point, right,

1805
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,080
Speaker 3: And I just I'm glad that we're not there with

1806
01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,200
Speaker 3: Scottie because it's it's just gets old, so fascinating.

1807
01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 2: He's not Tiger. We know that we don't have to

1808
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 2: harp on that. We can just enjoy Scotty for who

1809
01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:11,560
Speaker 2: he is.

1810
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 6: People love humility with athletes, because athletes are the closest

1811
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 6: things we can we can really connect to to, you know,

1812
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 6: getting sort of like picked out of the clear blue

1813
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,760
Speaker 6: and be given an opportunity, you know what I mean. Like,

1814
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 6: don't get me wrong, obviously, and having you know, lived

1815
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:35,360
Speaker 6: that life, it takes an incredible amount of discipline and sacrifice,

1816
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:40,280
Speaker 6: and there aren't there aren't really any easy days if

1817
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:42,679
Speaker 6: you want to try to be the best or compete

1818
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:46,560
Speaker 6: at the highest possible form of sport, like, there just

1819
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 6: aren't really very many easy days. You got to constantly

1820
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 6: think about it. You have to be obsessed by it.

1821
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,639
Speaker 6: You you miss out on a lot. Now those sound

1822
01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 6: like complaints, they're not. Those were willing and well accepted

1823
01:33:06,600 --> 01:33:09,799
Speaker 6: exchanges that I made and so many of my friends

1824
01:33:09,840 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 6: and peers made to have that life. But the problem

1825
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:18,760
Speaker 6: is when when you lack humility, then everybody feels like, well,

1826
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:22,759
Speaker 6: that's the lottery winner who is pretending like they always

1827
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:24,840
Speaker 6: had it, you know what I mean, That's the guy

1828
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 6: who scratched off the right number on the right ticket

1829
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 6: in the right convenience store or the correct deli or

1830
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 6: sandwich shop. And all of a sudden, you're gonna act

1831
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 6: like you've always been there like like you know better

1832
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 6: than us, You're no better than us, You're just us.

1833
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,640
Speaker 6: You just you know, we're you know, And this is

1834
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 6: I'm telling you, this is the mentality. You just happen

1835
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 6: to be six foot three. You got lucky because you're

1836
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 6: tall enough for you just have rich parents who could

1837
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,040
Speaker 6: afford green fees at the country club.

1838
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 5: You went to Scottie.

1839
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,360
Speaker 6: You know, you're just lebron Well, you're six foot eight

1840
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 6: and two hundred and seventy pounds. If I were two

1841
01:34:00,760 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 6: hundred and seventy five pounds, I would be an NBA

1842
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 6: champion too. It's like that's that's where that's where fans

1843
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 6: will turn on the lucky Lotto winner when they start

1844
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:15,600
Speaker 6: talking like they always had it, because.

1845
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 5: That's why sports are beautiful.

1846
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 6: Because look, I mean, anybody in my high school, I

1847
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 6: guess could have gone to the NFL.

1848
01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 5: But I was the lucky one.

1849
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,480
Speaker 6: It was a combination of my height and my attitude

1850
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,360
Speaker 6: and my athletic prowess and maybe some genetics and a

1851
01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:33,799
Speaker 6: ton of hard work and great opportunities and good coaching.

1852
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 6: And I caught a ton of breaks and I didn't

1853
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 6: get in trouble that one night, and I got good

1854
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,519
Speaker 6: enough grades, and I had good enough parents and a

1855
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 6: good enough support system and teachers who believed in me,

1856
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 6: and coaches who encouraged me, and friends who bought into

1857
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 6: my dreams also, you know, and pushed me. Like there

1858
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,639
Speaker 6: were so many things that added up to an NFL career.

1859
01:34:56,200 --> 01:34:59,080
Speaker 6: If you start talking like you've been there the whole time,

1860
01:34:59,560 --> 01:35:00,800
Speaker 6: even those people who.

1861
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:02,600
Speaker 5: Helped you along the way will turn on you.

1862
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 6: And so humility is important to remember when you're in

1863
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,639
Speaker 6: that position, and Lebron James lacks it at times, Scotti

1864
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:10,360
Speaker 6: Scheffler does not.

1865
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would honestly credit Rich's success during his college career.

1866
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 4: He had this crazy fan would scream his name from

1867
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 4: stands night job a pie dude. It would just be like, yeah, Rich,

1868
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 4: we love you, man, And then I would go back

1869
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,120
Speaker 4: to my hole and watch the highlights of how awesome

1870
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 4: the Penn State was during those years. Those are fun games, bro. Yeah.

1871
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,960
Speaker 4: You use the word humility, I'll spin it towards the

1872
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 4: gratitude direction. That's a word that I've been very invested

1873
01:35:41,040 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 4: in lately because a lot of so this word came

1874
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 4: to me very recently in real life form when I

1875
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 4: injured my hand. So I just had a little dog

1876
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:55,720
Speaker 4: incident about a month ago where Jackpot got into a

1877
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:58,160
Speaker 4: tiff with a poodle at the dog park and I

1878
01:35:58,320 --> 01:36:01,599
Speaker 4: was trying to separate him in the pit Jackpie. My gosh,

1879
01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 4: it was a big poodle. It was one of those

1880
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 4: oversized ones. But yes, advantage jack Bot was a heavy

1881
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 4: favorite in this fight. He won the fight, but I

1882
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 4: got bit, you know, I was trying to separate them,

1883
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 4: and the poodle bit me, and so my hand was injured.

1884
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,720
Speaker 4: For a couple of weeks, I couldn't work out as

1885
01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:20,600
Speaker 4: as hard as I've been working out lately, and I

1886
01:36:20,680 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 4: remember thinking to myself, Man, I wish I could go

1887
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 4: to the gym today and lift weights. And that's where

1888
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,200
Speaker 4: like that gratitude element comes in, because a lot of

1889
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,479
Speaker 4: times we take these things for granted, waking up and

1890
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 4: just going to the gym and you know, lifting your

1891
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,360
Speaker 4: weights like normal you do every day, and I couldn't

1892
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:42,720
Speaker 4: do it for like two weeks, and you really remember, oh, man,

1893
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 4: I'm very grateful that I can wake up today and

1894
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,400
Speaker 4: go to the gym, Like when you get that ability back.

1895
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:51,240
Speaker 4: That's how I wish Lebron would have handled that interview.

1896
01:36:51,720 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 4: I'm so grateful that I get to be the one

1897
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 4: to deliver a championship to the city of Cleveland, that

1898
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,120
Speaker 4: I get to be the one to wake up and

1899
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:03,879
Speaker 4: know that my efforts and my hard work helped Cleveland

1900
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:07,439
Speaker 4: get that championship, and and that like, that's all you

1901
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 4: have to say, and everyone's gonna love you for it.

1902
01:37:10,160 --> 01:37:13,000
Speaker 4: That last line is a throwaway line that's probably been

1903
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 4: rattling around in his head for years because he wants

1904
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:18,960
Speaker 4: to chase Jordan and because he's probably been being told

1905
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,640
Speaker 4: his whole life that you're not good enough unless you

1906
01:37:21,760 --> 01:37:25,000
Speaker 4: get to that peak that Jordan got to, when in reality,

1907
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 4: just being grateful that you can play professional sports at

1908
01:37:29,200 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 4: the level that you're at and bring a championship to Cleveland, frankly,

1909
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 4: is enough for everyone that follows you. But these athletes,

1910
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:40,479
Speaker 4: they're they're they have different brains in certain ways, like

1911
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 4: they're they're built differently than than we are, and you know, mentally,

1912
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 4: and especially the elite of the elite athletes, because they're

1913
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 4: just constantly chasing that that carrot. And I think after

1914
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,280
Speaker 4: it's all said and done, I hope Lebron will have

1915
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 4: a little more gratitude for the situation. Like Scott he

1916
01:37:58,160 --> 01:38:01,439
Speaker 4: has learned. Like Scotty, had some tough, tough times man

1917
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:04,680
Speaker 4: like those, he had some really interesting moments throughout the

1918
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:07,920
Speaker 4: course of his career, didn't start well and then came

1919
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 4: on really strong over the last two years. Then, of

1920
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:15,200
Speaker 4: course the incident in Kentucky where he was arrested very

1921
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 4: wrongly so and that kind of threw it. But he

1922
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 4: handled that really well, you know. I mean a lot

1923
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 4: of people would handle that very differently to be like,

1924
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 4: you know, incarcerated unfairly, even though it was a very

1925
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 4: short period of time. So that level of gratitude and

1926
01:38:30,160 --> 01:38:33,320
Speaker 4: humility is very rare in professional athletes, but Scotty has

1927
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:34,519
Speaker 4: it well.

1928
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 3: I'll just say real fast, I think it's awesome that

1929
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:42,720
Speaker 3: Lebron was never shy about chasing Jordan. I think that fundamentally,

1930
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:46,559
Speaker 3: just chasing greatness is a great thing. But the weird

1931
01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 3: twist is some of the comments that he's made have

1932
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,519
Speaker 3: not landed well at all. I have not done himself

1933
01:38:52,600 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 3: favors at all because he's trying to knight himself. Basically,

1934
01:38:57,320 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 3: you don't see anyone like themselves can't knight yourself. The

1935
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,920
Speaker 3: goat like other people knight you the goat, you know,

1936
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 3: but fundamentally just chasing Jordan, not being scared of that whatsoever.

1937
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:12,360
Speaker 3: I actually admire Lebron for being crazy enough to have

1938
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 3: that goal and and really want that and strive for it.

1939
01:39:16,640 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 3: I don't think there'd be anything wrong with Scotty trying

1940
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:20,160
Speaker 3: to chase down Tiger.

1941
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 2: I would have no problem with it.

1942
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,360
Speaker 3: But he might make a couple of Lebron esque statements

1943
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:30,759
Speaker 3: that you're like just lands rung and again he's chasing Jordan.

1944
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 3: He's chasing this like Paul Bunyan, adored player, you know,

1945
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 3: and he's knighting himself the goat. It's just not gonna

1946
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 3: land well. But I don't think fundamentally chasing greatness is

1947
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 3: a bad thing at all.

1948
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 12: I just.

1949
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, just chase it, use it as your internal fuel.

1950
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 3: Chase it and refrain from, you know, referring to yourself

1951
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:54,240
Speaker 3: as the coach.

1952
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 12: You know.

1953
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a that's a big part of

1954
01:39:57,560 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 2: the process right there.

1955
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,759
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1964
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Speaker 3: we will have football in five days. You realize that, Wow,

1965
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Speaker 3: Let's take a look, wow at the two teams and

1966
01:40:34,160 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 3: their top players from a variety of betting angles this season.

1967
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:39,920
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1968
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1977
01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 3: action in five days, how we'll have real football ish, right,

1978
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 3: real football. Maybe not the first teamers out there, but

1979
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,320
Speaker 3: we will have real football in five days from now.

1980
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:22,680
Speaker 2: So I thought, if we.

1981
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,320
Speaker 3: Look at the two teams in that game, Chargers taking

1982
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:29,360
Speaker 3: on the Lions, we're not looking at the preseason game Lions. Well,

1983
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:31,519
Speaker 3: I mean we could if you want to U Sikos,

1984
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 3: you know, if you have an angle at that, great,

1985
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:37,720
Speaker 3: But I was thinking about the real season because if

1986
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 3: you look at player prop bets, season win total bets,

1987
01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 3: all that type of stuff, these two teams are incomparable

1988
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:48,720
Speaker 3: positions first off season win totals Chargers at nine and

1989
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 3: a half, Lions at ten and a half. Do you

1990
01:41:52,439 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 3: like the over or the under with either of those Lions?

1991
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:59,519
Speaker 3: With those two teams, Lion's one number again.

1992
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: Ten and a half, Chargers have nine and a half.

1993
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 6: Man, I hate to say I like both overs, but

1994
01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 6: I do like both overs. I think the Chargers are

1995
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,000
Speaker 6: one of those teams. I'm buying their stock because I

1996
01:42:15,120 --> 01:42:18,120
Speaker 6: believe in Jim Harbaugh. I believe in that process. I

1997
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:21,920
Speaker 6: think they've improved in so many ways roster wise. And

1998
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:28,400
Speaker 6: I also I'm really curious how Justin Herbert responds, being

1999
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 6: arguably the most talented quarterback Jim Harbaugh has ever coached,

2000
01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 6: and that's including Andrew Luck. Now, Andrew Luck, you can

2001
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 6: argue Is would be a more coveted player in his

2002
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 6: prime than Justin Herbert. But I still think the story

2003
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 6: has yet to be written for Justin. So very curious

2004
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:49,640
Speaker 6: how this pairing works. And then in terms of the

2005
01:42:49,720 --> 01:42:54,479
Speaker 6: Detroit Lions, man that division that it can be had.

2006
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:58,320
Speaker 6: You know Jordan Love injured last season. Will see how

2007
01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 6: the bounce back looks this year to start the year

2008
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,720
Speaker 6: at least. And then you look at the Vikings. It's

2009
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,080
Speaker 6: a new test at quarterback for them. We did not

2010
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 6: see what the rookie last year was gonna look like. Yeah,

2011
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:15,840
Speaker 6: I'm buying both the Chargers in the Lines this year

2012
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,160
Speaker 6: from a win total standpoint.

2013
01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 4: I'm more neutral on the Lions because of the coordinator replacements,

2014
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:29,480
Speaker 4: especially Ben Johnson. Oh yeah, that's huge. And the positive

2015
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 4: though is they have an insane schedule in terms of

2016
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:34,920
Speaker 4: rest advantage. The Lines are the first team in NFL

2017
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:37,479
Speaker 4: history to play five opponents coming off a Monday night game.

2018
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:39,840
Speaker 4: I have to play a short week. They're gonna play

2019
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,360
Speaker 4: eight games at a rest advantage this year, and I

2020
01:43:42,479 --> 01:43:44,200
Speaker 4: know some people are kind of up and down on

2021
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 4: how much rest really matters. I'm more up on it,

2022
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:51,559
Speaker 4: especially later in the year, and especially teams coming off

2023
01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 4: Monday night games having to play on Sunday. Those are

2024
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:00,160
Speaker 4: very difficult situations, especially when there's travel involved. So I

2025
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:03,959
Speaker 4: think that is a positive for Detroit. But a negative

2026
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,799
Speaker 4: is the fact that they had an They won fifteen

2027
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 4: games last year and they still couldn't win a playoff game.

2028
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:12,000
Speaker 4: So I just I don't know if we saw the

2029
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 4: peak of Detroit last year. The Chargers on one hundred

2030
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 4: percent on the under this year. Very welsh on the Chargers. Yeah,

2031
01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:21,800
Speaker 4: you want to hear the most Chargers stat? Ever, Oh,

2032
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:24,360
Speaker 4: they would have finished with the second best record in

2033
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,760
Speaker 4: the league last year if the games ended after the

2034
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 4: third quarter. No other team trailed in fewer games entering

2035
01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:32,280
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter than the Charger.

2036
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 3: There were a couple of fifteen to two teams, right,

2037
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:36,960
Speaker 3: So that's yeah, that's quite the stat right there.

2038
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:42,880
Speaker 4: It is, and that is peak Chargers. The Justin Herbert

2039
01:44:43,000 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 4: fourth quarter drop off needs to be studied. I don't

2040
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 4: understand how it's possible for a quarterback of his talent,

2041
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 4: even under Harbaugh last year, like sixty six dropbacks last

2042
01:44:56,040 --> 01:44:58,040
Speaker 4: year in the fourth quarter of one score games out

2043
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 4: of twenty nine qualifying quarterbacks, Herbert twenty fifth in accuracy,

2044
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:04,240
Speaker 4: twenty fifth in success right, Like, it's just I don't

2045
01:45:04,320 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 4: understand it. And maybe this year they have Omarian Hampton

2046
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 4: more of a running game. Maybe they'll lean on that

2047
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:11,760
Speaker 4: running game more. Maybe the fourth quarter numbers improve. They

2048
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:15,160
Speaker 4: certainly can't get worse. But if you are a quarterback

2049
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:17,160
Speaker 4: that only shows up for the first three quarters of

2050
01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,280
Speaker 4: a football game, I cannot bet on you to go

2051
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,599
Speaker 4: over your win total, especially after they had a really

2052
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 4: good year last year when nobody expected them to make

2053
01:45:25,840 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 4: the playoffs and they went to the postseason, and then

2054
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 4: what happened in the fourth quarter of that game against

2055
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 4: the Texans, whoof So I don't know if LA can

2056
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:38,680
Speaker 4: overcome that. I do like Harbaugh as a coach. I

2057
01:45:38,720 --> 01:45:40,960
Speaker 4: think he's installing a culture. I like the draft pick

2058
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:43,760
Speaker 4: of Hampton. I think that's gonna help the fourth quarter statistics.

2059
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,880
Speaker 4: But justin Herbert's got to pull his head out of

2060
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,200
Speaker 4: his tookes when that quarter hits number four or else

2061
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 4: the Chargers are really gonna have a problem on their

2062
01:45:51,160 --> 01:45:51,920
Speaker 4: hands going forward.

2063
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,960
Speaker 3: I love these season win totals because oftentimes you can

2064
01:45:56,000 --> 01:45:59,400
Speaker 3: make great arguments on both sides. Sure you know whether

2065
01:45:59,439 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 3: you're on the old or the under. The Lions are

2066
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 3: a great example of that. I think at ten and

2067
01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 3: a half, I mean, they're they're supremely talented. They had

2068
01:46:09,720 --> 01:46:13,880
Speaker 3: injury bug misfortune to the nth degree last year. I

2069
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:17,280
Speaker 3: just doubt lightning strikes to the same degree this season,

2070
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, And so that would favor

2071
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 3: the over. Now what favors the under is they have

2072
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 3: a freaking brutal schedule. Their road schedule, in particular, there

2073
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,240
Speaker 3: are no layups, not one, not one favorite at the

2074
01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 3: beginning of the season. We'll see how the injury bug,

2075
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 3: you know, changes things with them and their opponents, but

2076
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,799
Speaker 3: no favorable matchups, no layups on the road all season

2077
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,720
Speaker 3: long to begin the season. That could favor the under

2078
01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:48,320
Speaker 3: as well. I think of this though, one thing that

2079
01:46:48,680 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 3: makes me lean toward the over. If anybody can handle

2080
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:55,040
Speaker 3: a rough road, it would be the Dan Campbell Detroit Lions.

2081
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,599
Speaker 3: And even if they go let's say they go eleven

2082
01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 3: and six, you would hit the over ten and a

2083
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 3: half that way, that would still be a four loss

2084
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 3: decline from last season. Think about that, right, your four

2085
01:47:08,120 --> 01:47:11,559
Speaker 3: losses worse if you go eleven and six. That's how

2086
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 3: good they were last season at fifteen and two. So

2087
01:47:15,200 --> 01:47:17,560
Speaker 3: I would lean over for Detroit. But hey, man, I

2088
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 3: get the counter argument. I sometimes these lines are misleading.

2089
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,240
Speaker 3: Ten and a half it's almost like a sales price,

2090
01:47:23,439 --> 01:47:26,160
Speaker 3: you know, where I don't know if the uh you know,

2091
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:30,720
Speaker 3: the granola bars, if they're you know, ten sixty two,

2092
01:47:30,960 --> 01:47:33,479
Speaker 3: that lands differently than nine to ninety nine, you know

2093
01:47:33,520 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 3: what I mean. It just say so ten and a

2094
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:39,400
Speaker 3: half seems like, oh wow, that ten and only ten

2095
01:47:39,479 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 3: and it's like they got to get to eleven. Man,

2096
01:47:42,000 --> 01:47:45,720
Speaker 3: you gotta get that right in the forefront of your brain, like,

2097
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 3: don't be like, I don't know, seduced into thinking, oh yeah,

2098
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 3: ten and a half, bro, Yeah, eleven, that's that's that's

2099
01:47:54,479 --> 01:47:55,200
Speaker 3: a different ball.

2100
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,000
Speaker 2: Relax, Yeah, right, that's the number. That's right.

2101
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:03,920
Speaker 3: How about the player props Jared Goff Justin Herbert exactly

2102
01:48:04,040 --> 01:48:07,679
Speaker 3: the same passing yards for this interesting thing, three thousand,

2103
01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,920
Speaker 3: eight hundred and fifty and a half.

2104
01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 2: They always have and a half. What do you think they?

2105
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 3: Goff went way over over forty six hundred, Herbert barely

2106
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 3: over thirty eight seventy. He cleared it by about twenty

2107
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 3: yards nineteen if you want to be completely accurate, but

2108
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,320
Speaker 3: thirty eight to fifty you like the over or under

2109
01:48:28,360 --> 01:48:29,280
Speaker 3: for golfer Herbert.

2110
01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 6: I like the under for Herbert. I like the over

2111
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:38,960
Speaker 6: for Goff. I feel strongly that the Chargers are aiming

2112
01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:44,719
Speaker 6: to be a play action passing team. A lot more

2113
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:48,720
Speaker 6: moved the pocket stuff, a lot more pass being set off,

2114
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 6: set up by the run game, a lot more of

2115
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,080
Speaker 6: getting the ball out of justin Herbert's hands more quickly

2116
01:48:55,560 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 6: than having him hold the ball and massage the pigskin

2117
01:48:58,439 --> 01:48:59,639
Speaker 6: while he's under duress.

2118
01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 5: I mean eventually injury.

2119
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,639
Speaker 6: Injury already has slowed him down, but I'm talking about

2120
01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:05,439
Speaker 6: major injury.

2121
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:07,040
Speaker 5: It's coming for him if.

2122
01:49:06,920 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 6: They don't do a better job either helping him preserve

2123
01:49:09,680 --> 01:49:12,320
Speaker 6: himself or getting the ball out of his hands faster,

2124
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,000
Speaker 6: or highlighting the run game, which is something we know

2125
01:49:15,160 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 6: Jim Harbaugh wants to do anyways. And then, in terms

2126
01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:23,640
Speaker 6: of golf, new coordinator, super talented cupboard and cast of characters,

2127
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:27,120
Speaker 6: to season the stew with in terms of receivers and

2128
01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:30,200
Speaker 6: capable running backs in the passing game and tight ends.

2129
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 5: I think they're going to throw the ball a lot

2130
01:49:32,160 --> 01:49:32,799
Speaker 5: more in Detroit.

2131
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 4: I'll go under on both.

2132
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:35,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

2133
01:49:37,800 --> 01:49:43,479
Speaker 4: I'm a hater. Well, the single most profitable long term

2134
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 4: player future has been passing yard unders over the last

2135
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 4: four years. They're hitting it seventy percent. Seven out of

2136
01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 4: ten quarterbacks state under their season long passing yard prop.

2137
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 4: You better have a pretty damn good reason if you're

2138
01:49:58,720 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 4: betting over on one of these quarterback. There's so many

2139
01:50:01,040 --> 01:50:04,599
Speaker 4: more outs for the under, injuries, you have a big

2140
01:50:04,720 --> 01:50:09,040
Speaker 4: lead in the fourth quarter, so many ways to win

2141
01:50:09,120 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 4: the under compared to the over. You've got to thread

2142
01:50:11,200 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 4: that needle perfectly. If you want to make the case

2143
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,280
Speaker 4: for Herbert. It's Greg Roman who did a really good

2144
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 4: job last year getting the passing game going early. So

2145
01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 4: the Chargers were the fifth highest team in terms of

2146
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Speaker 4: early down pass rate last year in the first quarter,

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01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:29,240
Speaker 4: seventh highest in the first half. Greg Roman did a

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01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 4: great job establishing the pass not only on early downs

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01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,800
Speaker 4: but also out of heavy sets. The Chargers led the

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Speaker 4: NFL in usage of twenty personnel. You don't see that

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01:50:38,640 --> 01:50:42,600
Speaker 4: personnel too often two running backs, zero tight ends. They

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01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 4: were also fourth highest than twenty one personnel two running backs,

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01:50:45,560 --> 01:50:47,719
Speaker 4: one tight end, and they passed it more than fifty

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01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 4: percent of the time out of those personnel grouping. So

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01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 4: it's really unique to see Greg Roman kind of move

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01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:55,960
Speaker 4: the pieces around where we're gonna show you two tight ends,

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01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 4: two running backs, one tight end, and then we're gonna

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01:50:58,240 --> 01:51:00,400
Speaker 4: throw out of it. I think that that is how

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01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:02,960
Speaker 4: you get Justin Herbert engaged in the game early, and

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01:51:03,160 --> 01:51:05,920
Speaker 4: Greg Roman's done a good job of that. For Jared Goff,

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01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 4: the Lions are a running team. Now they lost Rag,

2162
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:13,080
Speaker 4: now they lost some pieces. I think that's gonna hurt them.

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01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 4: But the Lions' identity is run the ball first, foremost

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01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:22,600
Speaker 4: all the time. Like that's their culture, toughness, grit, determination.

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01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,800
Speaker 4: I think the Chargers are getting towards that culture as well.

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01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 4: But I think Herbert has a little more polished to

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01:51:28,360 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 4: his game maybe at this point than Jared Goff, although

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Speaker 4: that might not be fair to say after how I

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01:51:32,240 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 4: just knocked him in the fourth quarter. I think both

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01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:36,920
Speaker 4: quarterbacks have their positives and negatives, but I think both

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01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 4: teams are going to be run first offenses next year,

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01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,160
Speaker 4: but on early downs the Chargers might be a little

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01:51:42,160 --> 01:51:45,800
Speaker 4: bit more aggressive. I would lean slightlyan if you have

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01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 4: to bet over on one of the guys, I would

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01:51:47,439 --> 01:51:49,640
Speaker 4: lean over on Herbert, But I wouldn't be shocked at

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01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:51,800
Speaker 4: both guys stay way under the total. Man.

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Speaker 3: The goth thing is pretty interesting where the one thing

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01:51:57,000 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 3: you do have to consider the injury bug and the

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01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:01,479
Speaker 3: interioror offensive line.

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01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:02,960
Speaker 2: Right, it's just different.

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01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:06,720
Speaker 3: Frank ragnow retired, as you said, Jared Kevin Zeitler has

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01:52:06,760 --> 01:52:10,400
Speaker 3: gone in free agency, So that interior line, those three dudes,

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01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:14,679
Speaker 3: if you get pressure on Golf up the middle, he's

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01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 3: not a gazelle back there, and he struggles with pressure

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01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:21,800
Speaker 3: up the middle. So hey, maybe I don't want to

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01:52:21,840 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 3: even throw it out there, but hey, maybe that leads

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01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:27,080
Speaker 3: to the injury bug. Maybe, But man, that guy he

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01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 3: cleared his passing yardage, this same passing yardage number thirty

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01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 3: eight to fifty. He cleared it by almost eight hundred

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01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:37,600
Speaker 3: yards last season. With this being a running team and

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01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 3: all that, he cleared it comfortably. Especially so to be

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01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:44,479
Speaker 3: under is man. It can happen, don't get me wrong,

2193
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,560
Speaker 3: But got some work to do to get on the

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01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:49,479
Speaker 3: under over there by the way real fast. I just

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01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 3: wanted to throw this at you too. So Aaron Rodgers,

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01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 3: we were talking off air, Bo Benson, trusted producer Chris Purfett.

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01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:00,280
Speaker 3: We're talking off air, like we're reading into these training

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01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,280
Speaker 3: camp practices way too much, and have you.

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Speaker 2: Noticed the trend growing here?

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01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,360
Speaker 3: So Aaron Rodgers, he threw an interception on his first

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Speaker 3: pass in training camp on Thursday. He was intercepted by

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01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:15,840
Speaker 3: Patrick Queen, and I love his quote. He said, it's

2203
01:53:15,880 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 3: good to get that out of the way. Anybody that's

2204
01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:20,679
Speaker 3: watched me practice over the years, you like to try

2205
01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,960
Speaker 3: certain throws at certain times, and this is the best part.

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01:53:24,040 --> 01:53:26,760
Speaker 3: And anybody that's watched me in the games knows I've

2207
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 3: been pretty stellar taking care of the football over the years,

2208
01:53:30,760 --> 01:53:36,040
Speaker 3: which is true, absolutely true. But peak ego Aaron was great.

2209
01:53:36,439 --> 01:53:40,080
Speaker 3: But he's right, like, we gotta take this. We got

2210
01:53:40,200 --> 01:53:44,479
Speaker 3: to consider the context of interceptions. In training camp, you're

2211
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:47,040
Speaker 3: gonna be working the bugs out, you're gonna be trying

2212
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 3: certain things that you don't try in games. So this

2213
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 3: idea that we're just reciting stat lines and reading into

2214
01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:57,120
Speaker 3: it fully, like, oh, this is a clue when the

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01:53:57,240 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 3: real games kick off here. A lot of time it

2216
01:54:00,479 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 3: is not, and a lot of times we're just football

2217
01:54:03,000 --> 01:54:06,560
Speaker 3: obsessed and we're looking for something to react to and

2218
01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:09,160
Speaker 3: it's not something that you really want to build an

2219
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 3: opinion or a great reaction on. I feel like there's

2220
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 3: way too much of that going on these days.

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01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 5: Completely agree, And look, it's hard.

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01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:21,560
Speaker 6: It's hard for a lot of folks to remember what

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01:54:21,680 --> 01:54:24,680
Speaker 6: it's like to practice, right, Like, because if you think

2224
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:27,640
Speaker 6: about it, practicing is something that you typically only do

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01:54:27,800 --> 01:54:30,719
Speaker 6: when you're a kid. You know, you go to dance practice,

2226
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:33,400
Speaker 6: you go to football or basketball practice, if you weren't

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01:54:33,400 --> 01:54:38,000
Speaker 6: an athlete, maybe band practice. You know, like, there's a

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01:54:38,080 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 6: lot of practice when you're kid, and then when you

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01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:44,240
Speaker 6: become an adult, you stop practicing, and so you forget

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01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:48,760
Speaker 6: what that experience is like. But practice is where you

2231
01:54:48,880 --> 01:54:51,880
Speaker 6: do take risks, you know. And I mean even if

2232
01:54:51,920 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 6: it's like with a trumpet or a clarinet, like sometimes

2233
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:57,400
Speaker 6: you try to play something faster than you're comfortable playing,

2234
01:54:57,720 --> 01:54:59,920
Speaker 6: or you try to play something over your skill set

2235
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:02,480
Speaker 6: because you have a recital coming, And boy, wouldn't it

2236
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,840
Speaker 6: be cool, wouldn't impress my music? Teacher, if I could

2237
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:07,720
Speaker 6: do this, you know what I mean, Like, if you're

2238
01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 6: a track kid, you know, and it's a high jump,

2239
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,040
Speaker 6: maybe you set that bar way higher than you would

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01:55:13,080 --> 01:55:15,880
Speaker 6: at practice than you do during a tournament or an event.

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01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:21,120
Speaker 6: My point being that as adults, we assume automatically, especially

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01:55:21,120 --> 01:55:23,640
Speaker 6: if you're a sports fan, that like, what you see

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01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:25,360
Speaker 6: at practice is what you're going to see during the

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01:55:25,400 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 6: game or the regular season, And it couldn't be the

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01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,080
Speaker 6: farthest thing from the truth.

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01:55:29,480 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 5: You always work on stuff at practice.

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01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:35,680
Speaker 6: That's how you create a better and easier game reality

2248
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:41,600
Speaker 6: because it's it's it's where it's where it's acceptable to fail,

2249
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It's where you won't get

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01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 6: hurt or you won't hurt a teammate where you fail.

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01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:48,680
Speaker 6: So yeah, I mean, even though he delivered it in

2252
01:55:48,720 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 6: a cocky way, Aaron's right, He's right.

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01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:52,960
Speaker 5: There's no doubt he's right. Ignore it all.

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01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 4: The practice stuff is irrelevant. As long as guys are healthy.

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Speaker 4: That's the only thing I care about his injuries.

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01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:00,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, I hear you, all right, We've got Rich

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Speaker 3: horn Berger, Penn State All American, We've got Jared Ignore

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Speaker 3: we got some picks to make.

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Speaker 2: Let's do it.

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01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 1: Rapid fire.

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01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:37,280
Speaker 2: All right, Jared Smith, you start us off over here

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01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:38,080
Speaker 2: with something you like.

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01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:40,640
Speaker 4: Well, I'll give you this trend during the platter and

2292
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,800
Speaker 4: I will double down on it here and rapid fire.

2293
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 4: So seventy six extra innings games went nil nil since

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01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:50,560
Speaker 4: twenty fourteen. This is last night, Diamondbacks Pirates zero zero

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01:57:50,960 --> 01:57:54,320
Speaker 4: in extras Arizona won the game won nothing, so the

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01:57:54,640 --> 01:57:57,920
Speaker 4: under in games later on in those series after a

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01:57:58,160 --> 01:58:01,240
Speaker 4: zero zero extra innings game, the under is thirty one

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01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:04,280
Speaker 4: seventeen and four since twenty fourteen. That's sixty five percent.

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01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 4: Really strong trend of the under. You get Merril Kelly

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01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:09,760
Speaker 4: against Andrewhiny today, I'm gonna back that trend even odds

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01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 4: plus one hundred on d Backs Pirates under eight and

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01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:16,040
Speaker 4: a half. I will double down on this game, and

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01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 4: I'll give you the Diamondbacks on the money line in

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01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:21,200
Speaker 4: the first five. Again, this could be Merril Kelly's last

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01:58:21,240 --> 01:58:25,400
Speaker 4: start in Arizona. I guess technically it's in Pittsburgh today,

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01:58:25,480 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 4: but for Arizona, and I don't love Andrewhiny like of

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01:58:28,520 --> 01:58:30,280
Speaker 4: the two guys that I'm betting this under on. He

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01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:32,120
Speaker 4: he's the one that scares me for the most blow

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01:58:32,200 --> 01:58:34,520
Speaker 4: up potential, and I think Arizona after winning last night.

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01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:37,360
Speaker 4: The trend also says the team that wins a one

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01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:40,120
Speaker 4: to nothing game in extra innings tends to win the

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01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:41,760
Speaker 4: next game in the series as well. So I'll go

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01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,520
Speaker 4: d Backs money line in the first five and the

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01:58:43,560 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 4: Phillies money line on the first five against the Yankees today.

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01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:49,480
Speaker 4: There are problems in the Bronx. Aaron Judge elbow issue

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01:58:49,640 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 4: not in the lineup today, yikes, and Rangersuarez has been

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01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 4: really good, Marcus Stroman not great. Phillies on the money

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01:58:55,840 --> 01:58:57,320
Speaker 4: line in the first five minutes.

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01:58:57,840 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 6: Wow, we have overlap on two and we're head to

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01:59:01,000 --> 01:59:02,840
Speaker 6: head on one of these. I think the over is

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01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 6: gonna hit Diamondbacks pirates today. That eight and a half

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01:59:06,440 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 6: run total. The pitching matchup, I just you know, what. Honestly,

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01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:14,879
Speaker 6: I think it's going to be a competitive game, scoring

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01:59:14,960 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 6: on both sides, so it's out as Mills Lane would

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01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 6: put it. Yankees, I'm gonna take the plus one and

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01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 6: a half on the run line, even if they lose,

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01:59:24,760 --> 01:59:27,280
Speaker 6: even without judge, I think this is one run game

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01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 6: all day long. And then Guardians, I'll take the minus

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01:59:30,320 --> 01:59:33,400
Speaker 6: one and a half on the run line. They're installed

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Speaker 6: as a small underdog in this divisional matchup today, I'm

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01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:42,840
Speaker 6: gonna say they're gonna benefit from run support against a

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01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:44,800
Speaker 6: middling royal staff.

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Speaker 5: So give me the minus one and a half on

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01:59:46,840 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 5: the run line for Cleveland.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like my baseball picks. You tell me if

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01:59:52,400 --> 01:59:55,480
Speaker 3: I'm crazy or not. So the Blue Jays, I took

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Speaker 3: him on the money line in the parlay pladder. I'm

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Speaker 3: gonna take them on the run line. Gimme plus one

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Speaker 3: and a half Blue Jays at the Tigers. Now, Kerk

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Speaker 3: Scouble is going for Detroit, all right, he's phenomenal, but

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02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:14,840
Speaker 3: the Tigers are ice cold. They can't score runs right now,

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02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:19,240
Speaker 3: and you've got Toronto that they're leading the majors this

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Speaker 3: month sixteen and four. Tigers have lost eleven of twelve,

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02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 3: So I'll take the run and a half. You know,

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02:00:26,600 --> 02:00:29,600
Speaker 3: we got to keep it within one. We still lose

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02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:31,560
Speaker 3: if we're the Blue Jays. I think they at least

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Speaker 3: do that. It's picked up a bit. It's minus one

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Speaker 3: p fifty, which is the cusp of what is acceptable

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Speaker 3: here in rapid fire juice, if you will. I don't

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Speaker 3: know if I'm missing something here. The Rays are freaking

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02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,960
Speaker 3: terrible right now. They're tied for the worst record in July.

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Speaker 3: They're six and thirteen. They're at the Reds today, and

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Speaker 3: we've got We've got the stud going for the Reds

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02:00:56,800 --> 02:01:00,400
Speaker 3: and Andrew Abbott, and the Reds are minus one twenty five.

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02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:04,040
Speaker 3: It seems like a too good to be true, but

2356
02:01:04,320 --> 02:01:07,520
Speaker 3: I'll take it. I'll take the Reds minus a dollar

2357
02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 3: twenty five could be a sucker bet, who knows, and

2358
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:13,160
Speaker 3: I'll roll with Stewie. I cannot fade my girl, John

2359
02:01:13,200 --> 02:01:15,280
Speaker 3: Quell Jones. She might be on a minute's restriction. I

2360
02:01:15,480 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 3: like under eight and a half rebounds, but I'll take

2361
02:01:17,680 --> 02:01:20,880
Speaker 3: Stewie over six and a half for my final play.