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Speaker 1: What's Up, Broncos Country. Welcome back inside this centur a

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Speaker 1: health training center for this week's episode of Broncos Now.

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Speaker 1: As always, I'm your host, Sydney Jones. And coming up

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Speaker 1: on today's episode, the Broncos held their second open OTA practice.

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Speaker 1: We'll hear from head coach Sean Payton, safety Justin Simmons,

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Speaker 1: and others all done more coming up. This week marked

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Speaker 1: week two of OTA practices, and Thursday was the team's

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Speaker 1: second practice.

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Speaker 2: Open to the media.

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Speaker 1: Head coach Sean Payton said it was a solid week

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Speaker 1: of work. Now that the team is halfway through phase

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Speaker 1: three of the off season program.

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Speaker 3: We have four more next week and then the following

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Speaker 3: week is mini camp and it's very similar, a little

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Speaker 3: bit longer time for meetings, but they're picking it up.

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Speaker 3: I'm pleased with that and yeah, it's going well so far.

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Speaker 1: Coach Payton went on to discuss Thursday's practice and how

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is doing today.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a good day. Today's third down.

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Speaker 3: So here's the challenge in OTA's with third down. Well,

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Speaker 3: I'm getting ready to tell you the challenge the third down.

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Speaker 3: The challenge the third down is you've got to contest

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Speaker 3: every throw, and so within the framework of OTA's it's

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Speaker 3: it's it's hard to do that. You know, there's so

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Speaker 3: they understand it. You know, I'll whistle and just talk

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Speaker 3: about the period and we can see if there's a sack,

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Speaker 3: we can see if you know, if the DB's in position.

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Speaker 3: And but generally speaking, especially on those early yards, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're contesting every throw and and so it's a little

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Speaker 3: bit less challenging when you're in first and second down

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Speaker 3: plane zone defense. But but he's doing well.

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Speaker 2: Safety.

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Speaker 1: Justin Simmons also spoke to the media today and was

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Speaker 1: asked what if Sean Payton practice looks like.

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Speaker 2: He used one word to describe it, educational.

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Speaker 4: It's he's really good at explaining how he wants things

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Speaker 4: done and why it's being done. And I think it

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Speaker 4: gives a great purpose to everyone, you know, before and

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Speaker 4: after each you know, said period of whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: Both Justin Simmons and cornerback passer Tan talk today about

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Speaker 1: Vince Joseph and what he brings to this defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the biggest difference is, you know, he

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Speaker 4: was a head coach and so you know, back then

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Speaker 4: there wasn't as much dialogue. Obviously he's with the defense,

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Speaker 4: but couldn't be two hands on as much as you

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Speaker 4: want to be, just because you so many more things

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Speaker 4: you have to take care of. You know now that

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Speaker 4: I feel like I've talked to him now more in

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Speaker 4: the past few weeks than you know, really had the

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Speaker 4: opportunity to when he was a head coach, just because

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Speaker 4: now he's in the meeting rooms more, he's able to

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Speaker 4: coach the little things up and we're talking formations, this,

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Speaker 4: that and the other, and so that's pretty much, you know,

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Speaker 4: the main difference. He seems the same same guy that

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Speaker 4: I remember him to be, and you know, I loved

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Speaker 4: him when he was here as a head coach, so

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Speaker 4: really thankful that we got him again.

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Speaker 5: He's he's brought a lot of, you know, different type

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Speaker 5: of schemes towards our defense, a lot of packages, and

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Speaker 5: you know, he's a guy that's confident in our ability.

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Speaker 5: You know, he puts plays out there that you know,

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Speaker 5: helps us make plays in a way. So you know,

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Speaker 5: when you have a guy like that that's confident in

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Speaker 5: us and confident you know in his play calling, you know,

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Speaker 5: its sets.

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Speaker 6: Us up for success.

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Speaker 1: Guard Ben Powers met with the media today as well,

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Speaker 1: this being the first time doing so since he's signed

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Speaker 1: with the team a back in free agency, and he

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Speaker 1: spoke on why Denver was the right fit for him.

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Speaker 6: I have a tremendous amount of respect for the offensive

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Speaker 6: coaching staff they put here together. So to be frank,

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Speaker 6: that's the answer. And you're saying Sean Payton always valuing guards,

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Speaker 6: that's something I knew coming in here, and so that

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Speaker 6: that obviously influenced my decision.

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Speaker 1: Now joining me here inside the Broncos podcast studio to

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Speaker 1: take a closer look at a Thursday's practice and a

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Speaker 1: press conferences is Broncos lead writer Eric Dalala.

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Speaker 2: Eric, thanks for coming on the show again today.

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Speaker 7: Yes, it's been a while. Nice to be back.

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Speaker 1: Nice to have you back. Was another good day of

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Speaker 1: practice on Thursday. It was nice to have press conferences

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Speaker 1: as well. Eric, What was kind of your main takeaways

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I thought two things. One, you saw

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Speaker 7: about kind of in relation to Russell Wilson, but also

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Speaker 7: in terms of how do these players start learning what

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Speaker 7: We hear Sean Payton talk a lot about a vision

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Speaker 7: for certain players, and I think you could kind of

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Speaker 7: start to hear him talk about that in discovering that

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Speaker 7: I mean, obviously there's there were some big plays we're

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Speaker 7: not allowed to discuss in detail because of the media policy.

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Speaker 7: But I do think just seeing these guys out there competing,

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Speaker 7: as Sean mentioned, you know you now, I think almost

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Speaker 7: and just a chance for these guys we heard from,

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Speaker 7: whether it's Ben Powers or Justin Simmons or pats er

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Speaker 7: kind of one of the takeaways. And then two and

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Speaker 7: se But afterwards Sean Payton was asked about the new kicker,

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Speaker 7: Elliott Frye, and he said, listen, just because we've got

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Speaker 7: pointed to New Orleans where they had a kicking competition

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Speaker 7: and every day he said, the media was charting. Okay, well,

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Speaker 7: who made more kicks, who was better from this distance

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Speaker 7: went the whole way, and Sean Payton essentially said, I

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Speaker 7: They bring in a different kicker from outside and that

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Speaker 7: I mean, he pointed to Sean Payton to Steve Atwater

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Speaker 7: worry about the safety in your room. You've got to

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Speaker 7: worry about the guys all around the league.

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Speaker 2: And so thirty two teams exactly.

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Speaker 7: And so I think that we've heard him talk a

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Speaker 7: He's eluded a couple of times, like last week, to hey,

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Speaker 7: so that that theme continued again today, where there's competition

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Speaker 7: and you might think that, hey, if I'm the third

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Speaker 7: the second tight end, I'm good to go. No, they're

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Speaker 7: they're looking across the entire league. This is going to

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Speaker 7: to hear that competition emphasized again stood out to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely.

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Speaker 1: It's like you said, Eric, you know, it was nice

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Speaker 1: to hear from Justin Simmons, Patzertan and Ben Powers as well.

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Speaker 1: You know, the first time that the media has heard

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Speaker 2: And he said something that really stood out to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, he had a shirt on today that said

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Speaker 1: uncommon across it and our good friend Mike Cliss asked

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Speaker 1: him about it and he said, that's kind of the

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Speaker 1: team's motto this season. You know, winning football in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League is in common, so they want to

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Speaker 1: be an uncommon team.

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Speaker 7: Right, I thought was great, Yeah, a great message. And

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Speaker 7: you know every team kind of each year has some

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Speaker 7: if other guys talk about this as we move forward,

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Speaker 7: but I do think that idea, especially in Denver, it

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Speaker 7: has been uncommon unfortunately the last few years, and I

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Speaker 7: think it takes an uncommon work ethic, an uncommon sense

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Speaker 7: the toughest moments, those things that you look across the

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Speaker 7: league said, even when teams make the playoffs, there are

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Speaker 7: teams that the common thing to do is beat yourself

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Speaker 7: in these tough moments. And we've seen good football teams,

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Speaker 7: you know, consistently good programs, whether you're talking about Bill

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Speaker 7: Payton in New Orleans, those teams didn't beat themselves, and

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Speaker 7: I think you can apply it to a ton of things, right,

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Speaker 7: like be uncommon in terms of how much you care

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Speaker 7: in terms of how much you study your playbook compared

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Speaker 7: go this extra mile right to be the best you

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Speaker 7: which has Ben Power said, it's it's uncommon for teams to,

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Speaker 7: I think more than just be good, be consistently good

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Speaker 7: and sustain that, which is obviously what the Broncos have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to adapt that to my life.

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Speaker 6: I like that.

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Speaker 1: I feel very motivational. You just talking about that, Eric, Well,

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Speaker 1: you know the fact that this is just OTA's you know,

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Speaker 1: coach said, they're halfway through phase three of the off

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Speaker 2: You know, like coach said, pads can really define a player.

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Speaker 1: You can't be too quick to judge or evaluate a

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Speaker 1: guy at this point in the year. So Eric, I

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Speaker 1: know you asked Ben Powers, you know, are what are

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Speaker 1: the offensive line and defensive line really looking to get

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Speaker 1: better at right now when they don't have pads on?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's kind of twofold one. You have

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Speaker 7: a guy I think Jean Payton talks about Marcus Colston

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Speaker 7: back in New Orleans, who you know, when they didn't

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Speaker 7: have pads on, he didn't really stand out. And there's

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Speaker 7: this common NFL saying, right like, everybody looks good in shorts,

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Speaker 7: and so when you don't have the pads on, maybe

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Speaker 7: have to worry about the contact. So guys tend to

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Speaker 7: play for any position. But I do think right now,

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Speaker 7: like a wide receiver can show how do they get

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Speaker 7: to get something where you can get some leverage and

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Speaker 7: a lot more technique based. And you know, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: Yes, Eric.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, be exciting to see once the season rolls around. O. Eric,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you joining me on this week's show.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for your insight, you got it said, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Thanks so much for tuning in.

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