Speaker 1: Is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room
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Speaker 1: confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star Infrasco. And now
Speaker 1: your host, Kyle Yeomans.
Speaker 2: Today is February fourth, twenty twenty five, and we are
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Speaker 3: And as we were.
Speaker 2: Out in Mobile, Alabama last week, and as we were
Speaker 2: scouting the Shrine Bowl up here in the Dallas Fort
Speaker 2: Worth Metroplex, I saw one common theme among the YouTube
Speaker 2: comments across the way. We could have been interviewing Mike
Speaker 2: Green of Marshall, could have been interviewing Ollie Gordon of
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, or even Tess Johnson from Oregon. And the
Speaker 2: one thing that we were told on that YouTube comment
Speaker 2: is where the hell is watch Lombardi here?
Speaker 3: He is. I am It's just you and me today.
Speaker 4: I am incredibly I am incredibly grateful. You know that
Speaker 4: my YouTube audience carries over and but y'all can't be
Speaker 4: mean to the people that own the house like we guess,
Speaker 4: you know what.
Speaker 2: I don't think they were mean and sometimes they sometime
Speaker 2: they hooligans and they get out of it.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't read a comment, but I value my mental health,
Speaker 4: so I don't read as many comments as I should.
Speaker 4: But as long as it's an honor and a privilege
Speaker 4: to do this, you know what I'm saying. So I
Speaker 4: just don't want the audience be like da da da
Speaker 4: da da dada, And I'm like, hey, I don't feel
Speaker 4: that way.
Speaker 5: I love doing this, you know.
Speaker 3: What I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So shouts out to the draft show, shoutside to everybody
Speaker 4: that's watching, whether you're from the audience, and whether I'm
Speaker 4: new to you or not appreciate y'all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's the thing. We love having you on here.
Speaker 2: And it was Nick Harris that pointed it out. He's like, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: it's like we were we were interviewing Jack Kaiser from
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and I was looking at the YouTube comments
Speaker 2: and was like, why is watch not in mobile He's
Speaker 2: doing shrine bowls Because I was, I was doing other
Speaker 2: stuff on the way. We got to divide and conquer
Speaker 2: up here, which is what's happening this week, dividing and conquering.
Speaker 2: They could have had their own draft show out on
Speaker 2: radio road, and who knows, maybe Brian will trying to
Speaker 2: hop on a headset sometime soon. But Brian, Zach, Tommy, Nick,
Speaker 2: and Bobby are all in New Orleans for the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl and then Fox and I are back here holding
Speaker 2: it down with Chris Beam in the back. So glad
Speaker 2: you're with us. We're gonna take a lot of questions
Speaker 2: and a lot of calls today because it's an opportunity
Speaker 2: for us to kind of talk about what happened last week.
Speaker 2: Big week for the first step in the scouting process,
Speaker 2: in the NFL draft process, but there's also kind of
Speaker 2: becoming a point where everyone's starting to know these prospects
Speaker 2: and know these names across the way. Going back to
Speaker 2: your coverage last week of the Shrine Bowl, watching the
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl practices, what was one thing that stood out
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 4: So the best thing about it, right is that is
Speaker 4: two different bowl settings.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl is mostly like, okay, you got some top
Speaker 4: one hundred, it's some one to fifty guys and a
Speaker 4: couple lovers in there. The Shrine Bowl is like the
Speaker 4: top three hundred, to So those are the gyms and
Speaker 4: they're fighting to get into that one fit and none
Speaker 4: against them because they have some guys like like Brock
Speaker 4: Purdy emerged from that group of guys, right, somebody has
Speaker 4: to emerge from that group of Day three guys. Right,
Speaker 4: So what you have is you got to do. I
Speaker 4: think the Shrine Bowl, the Shrine Bowl guys, I think
Speaker 4: they're a lot more hungry because I think that they're,
Speaker 4: you know, fighting for their football life, so to speak. Right,
Speaker 4: I think if you look at you know, Senior bowling. Look,
Speaker 4: the Senior Bowl is a fantastic two. Also, Mike Green
Speaker 4: knows he's getting drafted high. You know, Walter Nolan knows
Speaker 4: he's getting drafted high. But there's some guys like Nick Nash,
Speaker 4: wide receiver San Jose State, right, he don't know what
Speaker 4: his football future looks like. So you see him going
Speaker 4: to extra mile to make some of these players. And
Speaker 4: we'll even look at you know, you know, sometimes these
Speaker 4: guys won't even playing the you know, the bowl game.
Speaker 5: Damn near everybody's playing in the Shrine Bowl.
Speaker 3: Dash did not play in his bowl game.
Speaker 2: He was in the Hawaii Bowl against South Florida four
Speaker 2: days before they ended up playing that game, he pulled
Speaker 2: out and said, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To get ready for the NFL draft process.
Speaker 2: Here is in Denton, Texas and then Arlington, Texas showing
Speaker 2: out for the Frime Bowl.
Speaker 5: So it's a different level of you know, grit with
Speaker 5: you know, with those guys.
Speaker 3: But I learned a lot.
Speaker 4: You know, sometimes you walk in and you go all right,
Speaker 4: let's you know, we know who you are, Like we
Speaker 4: know who I keep saying Mike Green because he's the
Speaker 4: hot name now, you know. And now we're talking about
Speaker 4: Mike Green at twelve overall, And maybe we got a
Speaker 4: story one day about how I been getting fought on
Speaker 4: social media. Is about not taking running back of wide receiver.
Speaker 4: Will across that road later. But there were some situations
Speaker 4: right like we'll look at Deon Walker. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 4: Dean Walker, this is your opportunity. If you got one chance,
Speaker 4: mom Spaghetti, just go out there and whoop somebody. But
Speaker 4: he I don't know if he took advantage of his
Speaker 4: opportunities and it wasn't super impressed. I don't know if
Speaker 4: he took advantage of it. The film is still incredible,
Speaker 4: for sure. His film is still great. But what he
Speaker 4: did in Mobile was not in my opinion, So you
Speaker 4: have to you have to wait, and you have to
Speaker 4: you know, all right, do I lean on these five
Speaker 4: games or so that I've watched these five or six
Speaker 4: real football games that I watched, or this handful of
Speaker 4: days of bowl practice that I saw, So you have
Speaker 4: to weigh that. But I think there that you got
Speaker 4: to ask, like even small questions.
Speaker 3: Like TJ.
Speaker 4: Sanders was a guy South Carolina d tackle. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I know he's an athlete, but is he strong? And
Speaker 4: he'll go out there in the bowl practice just run
Speaker 4: down the mill of somebody and bull rist the hell
Speaker 4: out of these.
Speaker 3: I said, Oh, cool, you're strong than I thought.
Speaker 4: Or at the Shrine Bowl, right I was there with
Speaker 4: wool Chuck and Chris Paul linebacker from Old Miss. I
Speaker 4: was like, you really good versus run Sarah, But I
Speaker 4: want to see you in coverage. And I saw him
Speaker 4: get to go cover people and he was better than
Speaker 4: I better than I thought in coverage. So I learned
Speaker 4: a lot from these bowl games.
Speaker 2: You're taking bits and pieces of the prospect that you
Speaker 2: had already evaluated, and you either elevate or decrease what
Speaker 2: you thought about them initially, and so I thought a
Speaker 2: good example of that is Baron Surrell, had rusher out
Speaker 2: of Texas or probably a day early day three book round,
Speaker 2: maybe a fourth round guy initially comes out there and
Speaker 2: he was dominant off the edge, just as impressive, maybe
Speaker 2: not as impressive as a Mike Green, but just as
Speaker 2: impressive as some of the other edg rushers that were
Speaker 2: out there. He's maybe in the day too conversation now
Speaker 2: of what he brought to the table. Thought he was
Speaker 2: a speed rusher at Texas. It's some things quick off
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage. Never saw that length and able
Speaker 2: to extend, able to set the edge, never really saw
Speaker 2: a lot of that. He did it all week long,
Speaker 2: consistently immobile. And that's from a practice standpoint. But these
Speaker 2: practices aren't just practices and games for these guys.
Speaker 4: And that helped him even more because he's in his
Speaker 4: rotating system right also princely ooh maman, yelling yes, yelling
Speaker 4: edge from old miss Right. He doesn't play all the
Speaker 4: first downs, Like if you watch film, you just turned
Speaker 4: the film on, he's not out there first down You're like, hey,
Speaker 4: where's he at? I'm watching film and this guy I
Speaker 4: see number fifteen, I see you know, ninety two, And
Speaker 4: although I see all these where's where's Princely at? But man,
Speaker 4: he will walk out there on third down with with
Speaker 4: his chest all being and you go, okay, well, there
Speaker 4: he goes, and he's whooping somebody immediately pass.
Speaker 6: You go.
Speaker 4: That's why you out there on third down, right, you
Speaker 4: watching him? You go, all right, this is what more
Speaker 4: reps look like for you. Because he may only have
Speaker 4: twenty reps in the game. You know, some of these
Speaker 4: other guys, you know, they only have so many reps.
Speaker 4: So yeah, they have an opportunity, pardon me, they have
Speaker 4: an opportunity to go out there and play more. And
Speaker 4: most importantly, can you play somewhere that you normally don't play.
Speaker 4: Princely played in bgaps sometimes and it was terrible, like, hey, man,
Speaker 4: don't put Princely through that. Princely begat the war. I
Speaker 4: keep going back to Mike Grings. He's such a hot
Speaker 4: name here. Some of the questions that he was having
Speaker 4: was like his size, right, like like did he look
Speaker 4: big enough? And I think he measured great, looked big,
Speaker 4: looked a little more swollen. It doesn't hurts you to
Speaker 4: run down the middle of Connerley, who's another first round
Speaker 4: picked the left tackle from Oregon, to just run down
Speaker 4: the mill and make a highlight out of him. So,
Speaker 4: you know, I think, I think Senior Bowl is where
Speaker 4: these guys either make or lose a lot of money.
Speaker 3: And I was, I was.
Speaker 4: I was shocked at the guys that made so much
Speaker 4: of it and just one of you know, one or
Speaker 4: two practices.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought another name that you could throw out there,
Speaker 2: And I've got an article on Dallas Cowboys dot com
Speaker 2: right now. It's called high five Rising Stocks from the
Speaker 2: Senior Bowl and the Shrine Bowls. So I've got five
Speaker 2: players from the Shrine Bowl, five players from the Senior
Speaker 2: Bowl that I really thought stood out throughout the week
Speaker 2: of practice and end of the game. And one of
Speaker 2: the highlighted players was Jack Besh, wide receiver for TCU.
Speaker 2: I brought him up on maybe the first or second
Speaker 2: episode this year because we were talking about Savion Williams,
Speaker 2: who didn't end up participating, and I was kind of
Speaker 2: hopeful to see each Williams.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would have been a big day for a
Speaker 3: big week for him.
Speaker 2: Besch comes in and kind of took over that and
Speaker 2: maybe it was just the purple TCU helmet or the
Speaker 2: story that was around him wearing his brother's number seven,
Speaker 2: Tiger Besh, who unfortunately passed away in that New Orleans
Speaker 2: terrorist attack about a month ago.
Speaker 3: He was honoring his brother. Catches the couple.
Speaker 2: He was the leading receiver in the game first off,
Speaker 2: had what four catches for forty three yards, had a
Speaker 2: great week of practice leading into that, and he capped
Speaker 2: off the entire week by catching a touchdown pass. I
Speaker 2: know a lot of this is x's and o's and
Speaker 2: like you said, putting guys in specific situations to challenge
Speaker 2: what they've seen on tape, challenge what they've done in
Speaker 2: games previously, but this also is a chance to get
Speaker 2: to know the player. And I thought he made money
Speaker 2: off the field just as just as much as he
Speaker 2: made money on the field. Overcoming adversity, showing his mental
Speaker 2: fortitude of mental toughness in order to have the week
Speaker 2: that he did. It was really an impressive thing. I
Speaker 2: think there are a couple of times in the Senior
Speaker 2: Bowl process where we'll go back and we'll say, Wow,
Speaker 2: that was special. Aaron Donald's one that sticks out to me.
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott's another one. In twenty sixteen, Dak Prescott had
Speaker 2: a special week in Mobile. Justin Herbert in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: as well had a great week and Mobile ended up
Speaker 2: being a top whatever pick, top five, top ten pick
Speaker 2: in his own right. I thought, what Jack besch this
Speaker 2: did this week was as close to being special as
Speaker 2: anybody else on the Senior Bowl roster. And it was
Speaker 2: really cool to see both on and off the field.
Speaker 2: Because his ex'es and o's. He was good deep ball threat,
Speaker 2: high catch point, high catch radius. He was able to
Speaker 2: show some physicality, which I didn't think he showed a
Speaker 2: ton of during his tape at TCU. Now he can
Speaker 2: kind of rely on that and say I did this
Speaker 2: against some of the better corners in the league.
Speaker 4: It's so funny that you say that. I was just
Speaker 4: having to talk with my audience there. You know, I
Speaker 4: always say this team suck at drafting, right. I always say, hey, team,
Speaker 4: you know, guys fall down the board way more than
Speaker 4: they should, Guys rise up way more than they should.
Speaker 4: I have a theory that that exists because coaches fall
Speaker 4: in love with the guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Coaches talk to these guys and they fall in love
Speaker 4: and they just boost them up real high. I don't
Speaker 4: think that of Besch. I think highly of Besch. Besch
Speaker 4: is my first round, my first round two, my number
Speaker 4: one round.
Speaker 2: Two wide receiver. You have him in the second I
Speaker 2: got him in the second round. See, I have him
Speaker 2: high third right now. And that's even more so than
Speaker 2: what I had when I brought him up in the
Speaker 2: first place. I had him as a high four. What
Speaker 2: he did this week gave me a third round kick.
Speaker 4: He does all the things that I like, Like, you know,
Speaker 4: if you have size and length and catch rats, but
Speaker 4: you're also a route runner. And one day we're going
Speaker 4: to have a conversation if we're ever running low one content.
Speaker 4: You know, what is a dark friendly wide receiver?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Like, what kind of wide receivers do you think Dak likes?
Speaker 4: Not what we think of Dak friendly wide receiver is right,
Speaker 4: But does he want those guys to make tough catches
Speaker 4: in these tight windows or does he want somebody that's
Speaker 4: going to run routes and get wide open? Does he
Speaker 4: actually want a big speed guy. We just don't really
Speaker 4: use it in that way. One day we're gonna have
Speaker 4: to figure that out. And we got new coaches here,
Speaker 4: and I imagine that Dak, you know, took another leap
Speaker 4: up the you know, totem pole with this coaching change
Speaker 4: or whatever. So I wonder if if Dak is gonna
Speaker 4: get in somebody's ear, like, hey, I want this kind
Speaker 4: of guy. And we don't get a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: Jack Besh's in here, you know, we we we we
Speaker 4: get a bunch of slide dudes, a lot to move
Speaker 4: around guys, and some exes here or there.
Speaker 3: But like an ex.
Speaker 4: Big body, you know, route running a little bit of
Speaker 4: yet guy, we haven't gotten it before. So if he's
Speaker 4: if he's there at forty four, I'm taking y'all the
Speaker 4: Golden Corral.
Speaker 5: If we can get him. That's a little high for you,
Speaker 5: it seems like.
Speaker 2: But forty four okay there and there may be other
Speaker 2: receivers there. I think this is a receiver he he
Speaker 2: drafted in the second in the third round.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 2: This is not a high end other than maybe a
Speaker 2: Tetorola McMillan from our Arizona.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I know we've got some of those other names, like
Speaker 2: a Mika book up at the top that you kind
Speaker 2: of are interested in Tess Johnson, Trey Harris, guys like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you think Tess is in that mix? Now you think
Speaker 2: he's a first round ish. I still think he's in
Speaker 2: that jumbled mix of guys in the second, third, fourth
Speaker 2: rounds as well. Ted ten to see a run at
Speaker 2: like thirty eighth. Sure it's gonna happen at thirty eight
Speaker 2: thirty nine, and guys are going to just run off
Speaker 2: the board at wide receiver.
Speaker 4: I think we're going to get a wide receiver run
Speaker 4: right around that time thirty five, thirty six, thirty eight.
Speaker 4: But I also think we're going to have another run
Speaker 4: at like six. Do you think so? I think it's
Speaker 4: going to be a round. I think it's going to
Speaker 4: be a run at six. And that's what I've been
Speaker 4: on YouTube kind of and just fighting guys about it,
Speaker 4: Like we have to be prepared for the idea that
Speaker 4: your favorite wide receiver may not may not be there,
Speaker 4: so we have to learn how to pivot. I think
Speaker 4: somebody's going to see Ted go and then somebody's gonna
Speaker 4: be like, well I saw.
Speaker 2: Ted as a he was like number seventeen on somebody's
Speaker 2: big board.
Speaker 4: Well, they don't watch film Kyle. They don't, they don't,
Speaker 4: they don't, they don't know ball.
Speaker 2: This dude is Mike Evans in my opinion what Tedoro
Speaker 2: McMillan brings. Big body, good route runner. He's got the
Speaker 2: full route tree at his disposal, which I love coming
Speaker 2: out of college. Yeah, I think he's Mike Evans two
Speaker 2: point zero.
Speaker 3: I say this all the time.
Speaker 4: I don't believe in generational players all the time, but
Speaker 4: some dudes got generational treats. And his ability to go
Speaker 4: up and find the football and come down with it
Speaker 4: is as generational as he gets. Like he may not
Speaker 4: have everything. He may have be a Calvin Johnson guy,
Speaker 4: like he may not have the speed and later room,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: Thing like cons on. I don't even remember a lot
Speaker 2: of them because he was so good. Sure if he
Speaker 2: wins the line, he does it with size, not burst,
Speaker 2: which I think is fair. Whenever you look at some
Speaker 2: of the games he played. I watched West Virginia, Arizona State,
Speaker 2: Kansas State bring a challenge against press coverage when faced
Speaker 2: with stronger, longer corner, So he didn't face a ton
Speaker 2: of those in the Big twelve playing and simple.
Speaker 4: If you want to watch a fantastic game. Travis Hunter
Speaker 4: was was right there was right there. I didn't watch that.
Speaker 4: I need to go, oh please twenty twenty three, twenty four,
Speaker 4: watch watch both of me. He's just jumping over Travis
Speaker 4: Hunter and look and that was the first Travis Hunter game.
Speaker 4: I'll watch, right, So I was like, all right, why
Speaker 4: is this guy? Like, let's see Travis Hunter guy? First
Speaker 4: Old Arizona. Ain't no pros on Old Arizona and Taed
Speaker 4: McMillan is just whooping Travis.
Speaker 3: And I say, who is this character?
Speaker 4: Spinning like a ballerina in the air, changing, changing his
Speaker 4: spin direction. I don't know the big scientific word centrifugal
Speaker 4: energy or whatever it is, in triffical force, spinning his.
Speaker 3: Body in the ass.
Speaker 4: Say, hey, who the hell is this mcmillican and what
Speaker 4: I like about him? And we just talked about Dak friendly.
Speaker 4: There are some people that think that Dak Prescott is
Speaker 4: the worst quarterback in league. Cool tip. McMillan is a
Speaker 4: bad ball catcher. No matter way you put it up down, left, right,
Speaker 4: he'll go catch it. But we ain't got to worry
Speaker 4: about that because he's not gonna be there. He'll get
Speaker 4: drafted way way before old Old Dallas.
Speaker 2: I remember, back in twenty twenty on my first season
Speaker 2: of the Draft Show, I said that same sentence about
Speaker 2: a guy named CD Lamb.
Speaker 4: That's because the league sucks that drafted teams teams ain't good,
Speaker 4: which means it could happen.
Speaker 2: That's fair, which means it could totally happen.
Speaker 3: That's fair. Yeah, that's fair. How far the way do
Speaker 3: you live from the Star?
Speaker 2: I ran from the Star, from my apartment to the
Speaker 2: Star and back whenever they drafted CD Lamb.
Speaker 4: I'm about I'm about twenty minutes away. If I was around.
Speaker 4: I was just a lowly YouTube character at the time,
Speaker 4: But if I was around, I probably would have ran
Speaker 4: some last tubes. Yeah, but I don't. I don't know
Speaker 4: if we're gonna get that this year though. You know,
Speaker 4: every draft is different, and that draft in particular, I
Speaker 4: was just kind of running it down, like, man, some
Speaker 4: team is gonna hate on CDs speed, some team is
Speaker 4: gonna value how fast Rugs is or Judy the Robber.
Speaker 4: And there's a lot of dudes in that draft. You know,
Speaker 4: Derek Brown was in there, Ken Law was in there.
Speaker 4: We were wrong about some of the corners up there. C. J.
Speaker 4: Henderson was there and we just you know, but whatever.
Speaker 4: I don't think this is that that class where all
Speaker 4: the good dudes are gonna get lost in the wave
Speaker 4: of other good dudes.
Speaker 2: If anything, it's what kind of good dudes are enough
Speaker 2: to stand out from the pack. So, Kyle, I don't
Speaker 2: think this is a top heavy draft at all.
Speaker 4: I've been I've been fighting fights on the internet. Let
Speaker 4: me just introduce something to you.
Speaker 5: Josh Simmons from Ohio State, have you washed the tackle
Speaker 5: the leftock?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: So I think he's tackled won in his class, and
Speaker 4: everybody I ain't got agree with me. I think he's tacklon.
Speaker 4: I think he has the knat issue, and you know
Speaker 4: if doctor Cooper, you know, we just knocking on that.
Speaker 2: I haven't put a grade on him yet because of that.
Speaker 2: I have him Tyler Booker from Alabama. I've got Tate
Speaker 2: Rattlage from Georgia's up there. But now I think you're
Speaker 2: you're I spot on. I think Josh Simmon he could
Speaker 2: probably be number one. Him and Connory.
Speaker 4: I think he's a bona fide dude. And I'm trying
Speaker 4: to get Cowboy fans ready. I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. I think he might be an option for
Speaker 4: you as well.
Speaker 2: Okay to where left tackler is your right.
Speaker 4: He's a full blown He could probably do both, but
Speaker 4: I think he's a full blown left tackle.
Speaker 6: See.
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm.
Speaker 2: Okay with sure, Because if you're gonna revamp this roster
Speaker 2: to do what Brian Schottenneimer wants to do, which run
Speaker 2: the football, protect for Dak Prescott, and get the ball
Speaker 2: out to your playmakers, you got to start up front.
Speaker 4: I think there's this big three that Cowboy fans want.
Speaker 4: We don't know what the Jones is and will and
Speaker 4: then want, but the Cowboy fans want running back, wide
Speaker 4: receiver DT. No matter how we address that first three rounds,
Speaker 4: they can't guarantee you those will not be the three.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. We don't know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: We could walk away with an edge, we got to
Speaker 4: be ready for that. We could walk away with a corner,
Speaker 4: we got to be ready for that. A tight end
Speaker 4: in there somewhere. What I'm what I'm what I'm presenting
Speaker 4: the people I'm looking at the Cameron tell y'all. This
Speaker 4: is what I'm what I'm presenting to the to the viewers.
Speaker 4: Kyle is Tyler Guiden was like my offensive tackle eight
Speaker 4: or nine.
Speaker 5: It just is what it was for me. Go ahead,
Speaker 5: look that up.
Speaker 8: He was.
Speaker 5: He was, He's like offensive tackle eight or nine.
Speaker 4: I think it's different when you have an opportunity to
Speaker 4: draft offensive tackle.
Speaker 3: One.
Speaker 4: One thing I like to do to paint the picture
Speaker 4: of him is if he was in last year's draft, right,
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be there with Alt and Fashion and Fuanga.
Speaker 4: He's he's not there with them. But I think he's
Speaker 4: right between.
Speaker 3: So cool.
Speaker 4: I think he's just better than a JC Latham type
Speaker 4: of guy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So see, I had a first on Latham, had a
Speaker 2: second on Guiding.
Speaker 4: Sure, okay, so we So I'm I'm I'm talking to
Speaker 4: people and they're they're referring back to the idea that
Speaker 4: we've invested so much an offensive line already. Don't tell
Speaker 4: me about your draft pick. You have invested offensive tackle
Speaker 4: nine or whatever it was for you a second round
Speaker 4: grade because we're at the back of the first round
Speaker 4: at this point. I think if you have an opportunity
Speaker 4: to draft an offensive tackle one, And that's just my opinion.
Speaker 4: If you have an opportunity to draft an offensive tackle
Speaker 4: one as bad as you want running back, I don't
Speaker 4: think Jentsy gonna be there, No way the Cowboys want.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys won too many games to get to get
Speaker 4: these elite guys you want.
Speaker 3: If he's there, do you think they take them?
Speaker 5: They should?
Speaker 3: I think so too, they should.
Speaker 4: I would take them. I don't think he'll be there. McMillan,
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll be there. He's too good, Burden.
Speaker 2: I love to say McMillan and genter there what your thought.
Speaker 4: I'm taking McMillan because wide receivers more valuable, and I'll
Speaker 4: just take the running back.
Speaker 3: In the second round.
Speaker 2: I agree, and especially with the way this class shakes out,
Speaker 2: and sure you compare him, he would be the perfect
Speaker 2: pairing with.
Speaker 4: Perfect I'm logical here, and I know people see me
Speaker 4: as offensive line guy and if I just trying to
Speaker 4: bring another offensive line, But if you have an opportunity
Speaker 4: to get in OT one, I think you have to
Speaker 4: at least consider it and not just lean on the
Speaker 4: idea of this.
Speaker 2: As long as the medicals check out and all of
Speaker 2: that plays a factor.
Speaker 3: Knocking on glass.
Speaker 4: If Doctor Cooper says, hey, man, his knees good to go,
Speaker 4: he won't have any setbacks. He'll be a bad Mfday one.
Speaker 4: I'm taking offensive tackle one is gonna be a bad
Speaker 4: enough day one as opposed to my complimentary wide receiver too,
Speaker 4: to go along with my superstars that I have already.
Speaker 2: So if you do that, it doesn't of course, it
Speaker 2: doesn't close the door on running back. It never does, no,
Speaker 2: because you're gonna get one of those guys. I think
Speaker 2: at some point you're gonna get a running back. Does
Speaker 2: he close the door on wide receiver in this draft?
Speaker 4: No, because I think there's a lot of great wide
Speaker 4: receivers in round two and three, like you mentioned, like
Speaker 4: we were talking about, and something that the Cowboys have
Speaker 4: to do and I know that they do this because they,
Speaker 4: I'll say, messed up and did this last year. Is
Speaker 4: you have to take a receiver, but if he's not
Speaker 4: better than what you have, then just don't reach for one.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, we have a bunch
Speaker 4: of receivers that are cool, but if I'm gonna take one,
Speaker 4: I would like for them to be better. Then I'll
Speaker 4: just say what we have on wan, say anybody's name
Speaker 4: better than what we have. And I think the same
Speaker 4: applies with offensive line. I don't want to just reach
Speaker 4: for it. Oh well, we got offensive line in the
Speaker 4: fifth round. Now he's competing with Austin Riches. I got
Speaker 4: an awesome ridges, you know what I'm saying. I want
Speaker 4: somebody that's gonna blow that competition out the water. We
Speaker 4: currently drafted a left tackle last year, and I hate
Speaker 4: I got to talk about him like this, but he
Speaker 4: was competing with Chilma a dog at the end of
Speaker 4: the season. I don't want my left tackle none against Chilimadoga,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I don't want my first
Speaker 4: round guy competing with Chilimadoga.
Speaker 3: He's a right tackle.
Speaker 5: You think Guidan is the right tack man.
Speaker 4: I think Goidon had some of these same problems with
Speaker 4: Oklahoma at right tack times that he's having and left
Speaker 4: I think his dexterity is fine. I think he plays
Speaker 4: both sides fine. I think he has a leaning and
Speaker 4: grabbing and holding off for dear life problem.
Speaker 3: I don't know there.
Speaker 2: He didn't play enough at Oklahoma for me to say
Speaker 2: he had a ton of those problems. He was kind
Speaker 2: of like what he was this year, where it's four
Speaker 2: games on, two games off. That's why four games on,
Speaker 2: two games of dexterity might not be an issue. Durability
Speaker 2: might be a problem.
Speaker 4: And that's exactly why I don't like the raw player
Speaker 4: that hasn't played a whole bunch of football, you know,
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't, And look guid maybe phenomenal in
Speaker 4: four years it's time for contract. Then we gotta, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, talk about it, and we got
Speaker 4: to live in the darkness for four years, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So I think it's what you want
Speaker 4: to do is have as many slam dunks as possible,
Speaker 4: you know, And I just don't want to slam. I
Speaker 4: just don't want to pass up on slam dunks or
Speaker 4: with In my personal opinion, I would think it is
Speaker 4: a slam dunk just to go for Need.
Speaker 5: I think we've learned our listen from that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last two drafts, for sure, it's at twelve.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're pigeonholed into drafting for Need.
Speaker 3: At twenty seven. You might have been.
Speaker 2: You might have been in a point where you said, hey,
Speaker 2: this is what we've got to do. I mean, I
Speaker 2: know there were twenty four last year, back to twenty nine,
Speaker 2: twenty seven is where you drafted Mazzie Smith. You've got
Speaker 2: you've had those kind of draft classes the last two times.
Speaker 2: When you're in the late twenties, you're you're in a
Speaker 2: spot to draft a certain position at that point in time.
Speaker 2: I don't think at twelve they feel that way. I
Speaker 2: think they're going to look at it and say, gent's
Speaker 2: gonna be there.
Speaker 3: McMillan's going to be there, or.
Speaker 2: Somebody that's going to be an absolute stud is going
Speaker 2: to be there, So let's draft that guy.
Speaker 4: What if goofiness and nonsense, this happens and the best
Speaker 4: corner is there, like the best player on the board
Speaker 4: is a corner? Where you at with that? Like, who's
Speaker 4: your your best corner? Would you go best corner or
Speaker 4: would you feel compelled to go wide receiver because we need.
Speaker 3: So your best corner right now? Is I mean are
Speaker 3: we saying.
Speaker 4: Well, Travis don't exist, but like whoever you make so
Speaker 4: so my.
Speaker 2: Mistake is if that's the case, yes, I'm going yeah
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 3: But if it's like a first he's.
Speaker 2: My number one corner and if I have a third
Speaker 2: round grade on him as a receiver.
Speaker 4: So jah A Barron from Texas is my is my
Speaker 4: number two corner?
Speaker 3: Okay? Will Johnson from Michigan. I think it's Schavon.
Speaker 5: Reveals another guy e C.
Speaker 3: I don't know how that bores the play out the close.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would definitely take a corner because I'm at
Speaker 2: least where I sit today and age right now. I'm
Speaker 2: not happy with what the reports have been around Trayvon Dix.
Speaker 5: And what's gonna end up happening is is then you've.
Speaker 3: Got to pay to Ron Blant. That's a problem.
Speaker 4: So let's just say what's gonna Okay, you got a
Speaker 4: corner around one, You're gonna take a running back in
Speaker 4: round two, and you're gonna take a d tackling round three.
Speaker 3: And next thing you know, you didn't even look at receiver,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: Got They've shown that they can go and get a
Speaker 2: veteran receiver that I mean, they've went and got Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 2: You think about t Why Hilton a couple of years ago.
Speaker 2: They they've made an impact in the receiver free agent market.
Speaker 2: Because I think there's so many of them out there
Speaker 2: that the price tag is dropped as if you're not
Speaker 2: an elite wide receiver. But kind of like what you're saying,
Speaker 2: you don't want to go get a guy that's just
Speaker 2: the middle of the road. You need a guy that's
Speaker 2: going to elevate the group as a whole.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys are going to find the middle of the
Speaker 4: road wide receiver and we're gonna have to love it.
Speaker 4: They're gonna bring Zay Jones up here to to at
Speaker 4: well up here. We're gonna have to be happy because
Speaker 4: we're not. We're not gonna go for like a Ta
Speaker 4: Higgins type. You know, We're gonna draft somebody somewhere and trade.
Speaker 2: For a guy that happened to wear like a RAM
Speaker 2: horn on the side of his helmet last year.
Speaker 3: Is he hurt guy? I mean, was it the young one?
Speaker 2: The guy who tweeted yesterday that they're gonna trade him?
Speaker 5: Would you if if the Rams really trying to move on.
Speaker 3: Which I mean if Cooper cups posting that to social.
Speaker 4: Then in real life that makes me feel like I
Speaker 4: can get him for like a fifth.
Speaker 3: I've sent a fifth over there.
Speaker 4: I think that's that's That's what it comes down to, right,
Speaker 4: The Browns are gonna want your arm for that pass
Speaker 4: rusher from twelve and then some that's different. Cooper Cooper
Speaker 4: Cup is a guy. I don't know the rules here.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm allowed to say names because
Speaker 4: like losing, because it's a network.
Speaker 2: He's under contract, but he put it out there.
Speaker 3: So okay, don't listen to me. Let's just.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 4: So I'm the YouTuber and I don't even work it
Speaker 4: for real, I don't. I don't work for nobody, just
Speaker 4: to just to be clear. But boy, in case there's
Speaker 4: a miscellaneous character that happened to play for another team
Speaker 4: and yellow Man any wide receiver, hell, we can get
Speaker 4: up here.
Speaker 3: Boy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if we can get them for like a like
Speaker 4: a Day three pick or something like that, cool.
Speaker 5: But I think it's just like.
Speaker 4: The the Cooper situation, right, the Browns ate a lot
Speaker 4: of that money.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so Koogle was able to be traded for cheap yep.
Speaker 4: I don't know if some miscellaneous character that costs a
Speaker 4: lot of money or that team is gonna want to
Speaker 4: take that cut, so you might have to trade a
Speaker 4: higher pick for that imaginary for them to for that
Speaker 4: dude to go. So I think he's just I think
Speaker 4: teams are gonna wait till he get cut. Yeah, probably
Speaker 4: team's gonna wait to leaguet cut and then it'll be
Speaker 4: a post June first thing.
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Speaker 5: Of some YouTube?
Speaker 3: Was that YouTube on the twenty YouTube?
Speaker 2: Twitter? Well, that's the thing. It's not even Twitter anymore.
Speaker 2: It's X on the twenty. I don't even know what
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 3: X on the doubles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just sounds weird. Yeah, whatever it ends up being,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: This one's from Sin City Cowboy on YouTube says, with
Speaker 2: no fourth round pick, do you trade back up with
Speaker 2: a late third and a or do you trade back
Speaker 2: up a late third and a fourth? Or do we
Speaker 2: just pick our player and keep on pushing past that
Speaker 2: fourth round pick.
Speaker 4: I think everybody in the world wants to trade back
Speaker 4: and get more more picks, you know, So I don't
Speaker 4: even think about trading back as like a realistic situation
Speaker 4: until it happens. Right, Like if I pick up the
Speaker 4: phone with some Miscellani's team and say, hey, I don't
Speaker 4: want to pick here, y'all want to pick here? Why
Speaker 4: I don't want to pick and y'all give me some
Speaker 4: of y'all's picks Like that? That sounds you know, that
Speaker 4: sounds like somebody that doesn't want to want to do
Speaker 4: a deal with you. If I'm trading back, I want
Speaker 4: to trade back from my first so I can get
Speaker 4: as you know, get as much of a haul as
Speaker 4: I can. Like, that's that's where your your big your
Speaker 4: big points is your big points are right. If you
Speaker 4: trade back from the third, you might get a twenty
Speaker 4: twenty seven six.
Speaker 3: Round pick or something. You know what I'm saying, You're not.
Speaker 2: Gonna you're not going to bring in anything significant.
Speaker 5: You're not getting big, big value from that.
Speaker 4: But if you move back five, like to nineteen or
Speaker 4: something right like, like, if you move to nineteen or twenty,
Speaker 4: you can get a three and four possibly, So I
Speaker 4: think I would be looking for something like that.
Speaker 2: How this is another question from Kevin. How far would
Speaker 2: you be willing to trade back if that's the case,
Speaker 2: So you're talking about what you would be willing to
Speaker 2: give up. Sure, what about trading back.
Speaker 4: If my super saying elites are all going like that, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm not trading back from McMillan, gent. I may trade
Speaker 4: back from gents if I get more picks, because my
Speaker 4: whole thing about gents is I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Be a surprised somebody's gonna come and get him if
Speaker 2: that's the cash.
Speaker 4: I think the scariest thing you can do is pass
Speaker 4: on genty, Caleb Johnson goes to like twenty five, Hampton
Speaker 4: goes to like forty one, and now you're on the
Speaker 4: board at forty four.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So if we get an extra pick, I'm more likely
Speaker 4: to move back from Jenz, But I'm not moving back,
Speaker 4: like if Carter gets caught with a gas mask on
Speaker 4: his face, I'm not moving back and I'm taking Carter.
Speaker 4: But I think if you know, I don't know, Matthew
Speaker 4: Golden is on the board or something, he's my best player,
Speaker 4: or Will Johnson from from Michigan if he's my best
Speaker 4: player or something like that. Yeah, I moved back from
Speaker 4: Will Johnson and I'll take you know, Kenny Grant or something.
Speaker 4: At twenty, I move back a lot of spots. Then
Speaker 4: if my true elites are going and it's just as possible,
Speaker 4: sure I'm moved.
Speaker 2: I moved.
Speaker 3: I move out of the out of the first round
Speaker 3: of y'all got some picks for me?
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Because I think all those
Speaker 4: guys in that in that in that round two range,
Speaker 4: you know, Mike Green, James Pierce is an other guy.
Speaker 4: Now I can start talking about offensive lineman for real,
Speaker 4: Tyler Booker. I can get him at like twenty six
Speaker 4: or something like that. So as long as I'm not
Speaker 4: moving back from somebody truly super saying elite, then yeah,
Speaker 4: I can move back.
Speaker 3: Sure.
Speaker 2: So, and this is another question from Jesse, but there's
Speaker 2: a lead into Jesse's question. This is a bad draft
Speaker 2: to be at twelve, And I'll tell you why. Not
Speaker 2: because of the players that are possibly going to be there,
Speaker 2: but because usually if you're picking at twelve, if the
Speaker 2: Cowboys saw this in twenty twenty one when they were
Speaker 2: sitting there with Michael Parsons, usually you're going to have
Speaker 2: three or four quarterbacks go in front of that twelfth
Speaker 2: overall pick. Sure, so you're gonna get your selection of
Speaker 2: maybe the seventh, eighth, ninth, tenth, best player in the
Speaker 2: draft that's a non quarterback. This year, they'd be lucky
Speaker 2: if one guy, two guys go shitter cam Ward or
Speaker 2: probably the only two that will be up above the
Speaker 2: twelfth overall pick. So other than that, you're picking your tenth, eleventh,
Speaker 2: twelfth best player that's a non quarterback. Sure, are there
Speaker 2: any quarterbacks that you saw? I know you said on
Speaker 2: the first show you're not watching quarterbacks yet. Sure, but
Speaker 2: throughout the week of Shrine Bowl and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: are there any quarterbacks that would be available in the
Speaker 2: fifth round and beyond?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, so fifth and back.
Speaker 3: So Dave, let's just say day three.
Speaker 5: Comiccrd Syracuse is a guy.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: He seems to be the guy that had the most command,
Speaker 4: a lot of juice.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 4: You know, And honestly, if you're one of these players
Speaker 4: and these coaches, they talk to you and they interview you,
Speaker 4: and you can just run their offense. You may not
Speaker 4: be a great arm talent guy, you may not be
Speaker 4: the best athlete, but if you can run their offense,
Speaker 4: that's why Bo Knicks got drafted pretty high. JJ McCarthy
Speaker 4: got drafted. You just got to make a coach fall
Speaker 4: in love with you, you know. So if there's anything
Speaker 4: like that, then sure, or you may be a coach
Speaker 4: that's watching Buffalo Bills and you may get jealous of
Speaker 4: what they can do with Josh Allen. I'm not saying
Speaker 4: Riley Lennard is one of those guys, but just a
Speaker 4: big quarterback that can run around and run people over
Speaker 4: and throw the ball all around. He's not quite Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: but he's like a very light version of that. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 4: you can bring him in and develop his arm and
Speaker 4: his reading. And I mean, I know in his last
Speaker 4: bowl game he threw for like one hundred and twenty
Speaker 4: some yards and I was mad, like, there's no way
Speaker 4: he's getting top twelve. Yeah, throwing for one hundred and
Speaker 4: twenty some yards in the bowl game. But some team
Speaker 4: will look at his athleticism and be like, if I
Speaker 4: can develop everything else, I think it'll be it'll be cool.
Speaker 3: Okay, So there are a couple guys.
Speaker 2: I The one guy that I kept going back to
Speaker 2: during the draft process was Brosmer from Minnesota. I thought
Speaker 2: he had a really good week. He's he's a take
Speaker 2: a flyer guy. Sure he's not a let's draft him
Speaker 2: in the second third round. Yeah, but he's a former
Speaker 2: FCS product, made the jump to Minnesota, had a really
Speaker 2: good year with the Golden Gophers, had a good week
Speaker 2: of practice a senior. Both got some art twent he
Speaker 2: got some velocity. So good ball placement at a couple
Speaker 2: of times wasn't perfect, don't get me wrong. And I
Speaker 2: thought there were a couple guys throughout both Shrine Bowl
Speaker 2: and Senior Bowl practices that weren't very good.
Speaker 4: I can tell Kyle watch his ball, because when I
Speaker 4: was watching him, I was like, all right, he has
Speaker 4: noticeably more zip on.
Speaker 2: The football then pretty much everybody else there.
Speaker 3: Then all of it.
Speaker 4: He will stare his receiver down again, ar right, he will.
Speaker 4: He'll look right at who's I'm throwing to you. We'll
Speaker 4: point at him.
Speaker 2: Fatch Lombardy. I hope you're open. He's gonna like say
Speaker 2: your name on the way and he his arm motion.
Speaker 3: Hey, he'll throw it right to you.
Speaker 4: Uh, you know kind of you know, you know, cool,
Speaker 4: cool athlete and all that. But but if he could
Speaker 4: just work on not looking at what if you can
Speaker 4: look that teachable to me, it's teachable.
Speaker 1: But he did.
Speaker 5: Out of all the Shrine guys, I think he had
Speaker 5: to be his arms out.
Speaker 2: Him and him McCord, I think we're the two guys
Speaker 2: because the auburn peyton thorn, thorn not it. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of dying off at the end of the ball.
Speaker 2: It just it wasn't there from a lot of those guys.
Speaker 2: But I thought Brosmer and McCord were good. I was
Speaker 2: not impressed with really any of the Senior Bowl guys
Speaker 2: that weren't named Jackson Dart and even even Jackson Dart,
Speaker 2: and I love Jaylen Miller Milros probably a top four
Speaker 2: quarterback in this draft for me, Dart was on the
Speaker 2: borderline of that. I think I had him at five.
Speaker 2: I might give him a bump just because of what
Speaker 2: I saw in person, but it still didn't jump off
Speaker 2: the page like we've seen the past with to uh
Speaker 2: and Justin Herbert and some of these other cats that
Speaker 2: have been at the Senior Bowl in the past. All right,
Speaker 2: let's go to m J in l A, California. M J,
Speaker 2: you're on the Draft show.
Speaker 6: Oh no, hey, yous doing. Hey appreciates that. I always
Speaker 6: wanted to get on the show. Uh. You know me.
Speaker 6: I like the big guy Robinson from Nebraska calcol energy powerful.
Speaker 6: That's the kind of player of the Cowboys need. And Uh,
Speaker 6: y'all y'all, it's so many halfbacks, uh Shaw Smith out
Speaker 6: of s m U that dude could catch. He's sad
Speaker 6: and it's so many. To me, it's so many halbags.
Speaker 6: I'm not tripping over the halbag. So I like to
Speaker 6: tackle pick. He was thinking from Ohio State and he's
Speaker 6: there and he you know that makes a good sense.
Speaker 6: But to me, either one, I'm not I'm not. I'm not. Man,
Speaker 6: I'm not mad cause this run scheme. I'm so excited.
Speaker 6: We got something new and different than we used to do.
Speaker 3: Mark Mark List.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, So, if if Simmons is
Speaker 4: the pick at twelve overall, would you be.
Speaker 3: Mad at it?
Speaker 6: No, I'll be like, just build that line team and
Speaker 6: that's good for Dak Preshcott with the play action. Hey,
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna tell y'all something quickly. You guys, you
Speaker 6: gotta stop our receivers. We got some fans of receivers.
Speaker 6: Mingo Florny, he just didn't get to even get to play.
Speaker 6: Called about Mike. You know, I ain't gonna hit on Mike,
Speaker 6: but Mike may be mad because Flornery with that speed
Speaker 6: and the and the players that shot shot, he bring it.
Speaker 6: You're gonna see some big plays from Mingo and Florida.
Speaker 3: Appreciate his steam.
Speaker 6: Opened up receivers.
Speaker 3: Appreciate the show.
Speaker 6: How about them?
Speaker 3: Cope, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call you thanksiate appreciate you man. Yeah, No,
Speaker 2: it brings up good points. He brought up Ty Robinson, Nebraska.
Speaker 2: What did you see out of him? Very active, very strong.
Speaker 2: He looks like a Ty Robinson from Nebraska body wise.
Speaker 2: When we talk about those guys, you know, the big,
Speaker 2: you know, country strong, you know looking guys, right, And
Speaker 2: I think he had a really good Senior Bowl practice.
Speaker 2: You know what senior Bowl practice is.
Speaker 4: I was shocked at how many one tech type guys
Speaker 4: are in this class and have some some pretty good rush.
Speaker 2: I love the way you talked about it in the
Speaker 2: Draft Show last week and the way you said dancing bears. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was perfect one because I've been watching a lot
Speaker 2: of children's cartoons with my kids around recently. However, the
Speaker 2: Dancing Bears mentality, that's what it felt like.
Speaker 3: A couple of those.
Speaker 2: Guys along the way and on that defensive line.
Speaker 3: They can move.
Speaker 5: We don't have a lot of just stuck in the
Speaker 5: ground guys anymore.
Speaker 2: Three And even if you are no Quenton Bohanna's in
Speaker 2: this thing.
Speaker 4: We don't we don't have those guys. These these guys
Speaker 4: get up field. Jordan Phillips from Maryland's another one.
Speaker 3: CJ.
Speaker 5: West from Indiana He's another one.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So there's there's a lot of tackles here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like Omar and Norman Lott from Tennessee and a
Speaker 2: guy who can move. Yeah, back and forth, a little
Speaker 2: tweetter action there. Uh, let's go to Uh, let's go up,
Speaker 2: Darius dropped. Let's go to John g in Arlington, Virginia.
Speaker 2: We're on the draft show.
Speaker 13: Hey, what's going on? Box Man? Hey? Look, I didn't
Speaker 13: need to start a fire this morning, but you know
Speaker 13: it is what it is? How you going, Kyle?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 10: Wait?
Speaker 2: What what?
Speaker 3: What fire did you start?
Speaker 4: When I'm saying people fighting me over running back? This
Speaker 4: is this is this is people.
Speaker 3: What's up? John?
Speaker 13: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Why do you Hatevis Simmons?
Speaker 13: I don't hate Josh Simmons. The issue is last year
Speaker 13: we didn't have a fourth round pick. This year we
Speaker 13: don't have a fourth round pick. So the Cowboys have
Speaker 13: to be a little bit more aggressive, and probably the
Speaker 13: running back or or the receiver position being that they're
Speaker 13: not really players in free agency. So my question to
Speaker 13: you guys is, uh, what need to happen for you
Speaker 13: guys to be team trade back? And you know how
Speaker 13: aggressive would you guys be and trying to get that
Speaker 13: round four pick back?
Speaker 3: Appreciate you brother. Yeah, thanks for the call, thanks for
Speaker 3: the question.
Speaker 4: The MV Cowboys on a YouTube shots out to them.
Speaker 4: I think we all want to trade back. We want
Speaker 4: more picks because we're in this situation where when we
Speaker 4: don't have a fourth and we we were sitting in there,
Speaker 4: y'all were sitting in these chairs. I was at home
Speaker 4: when we were in the fourth round. We go man
Speaker 4: boy Man Brandon Allen show hanging out, just chilling over there.
Speaker 4: All these all these great fourth round guys that we
Speaker 4: have on our board, and they're just leaving because we're
Speaker 4: gonna have a fourth round pick. So what's it gonna
Speaker 4: take for us to be on team trade now? It
Speaker 4: ain't gonna take much.
Speaker 3: Now. It's kind of what you outlined earlier.
Speaker 2: A couple of your dudes that are up at the
Speaker 2: top mcmellan, genty Banks, a couple of those Simmons, those
Speaker 2: guys are gone, which could very well be the case
Speaker 2: in the top ten. Yep, then yeah, let's pull the parachute.
Speaker 3: And get out of there.
Speaker 2: I don't want to pass up on a bona fide
Speaker 2: first round grade.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at, because you're in a spot to
Speaker 2: have even in a draft class where there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of first round grades, you're still at twelve.
Speaker 2: And even with the outlying situation that I talked about
Speaker 2: with the quarterbacks not taking away from those picks, you're
Speaker 2: still going to have a shot at a first round
Speaker 2: graded player.
Speaker 5: If the best player on the board, if you feel
Speaker 5: just as good about the player that's ten spots down
Speaker 5: that's available, still, yeah, I think you can.
Speaker 3: You can trade back, you know what I mean. Like
Speaker 3: that'd be.
Speaker 2: Like a Luther Burden from Missouri something like that.
Speaker 4: I think he's he's at that line. I think some
Speaker 4: people love him. Some people may may not love him
Speaker 4: as much. But if you take if you take Luther
Speaker 4: Burden versus like Kenny Grant, I think you like both
Speaker 4: of those guys relatively the same. If it's just randomly,
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, like Mason Graham versus Kenny Grant. Everybody
Speaker 4: looks at those two dudes kind of differently, right, Mayson
Speaker 4: not gonna be there, but just the example here, right,
Speaker 4: So just whoever's on the board right now versus anybody
Speaker 4: that's ten spots down from you, that'll give you a
Speaker 4: good feel about you know, you know how you feel
Speaker 4: about trading back from and I think Josh Simmons the
Speaker 4: only reason he's available because he's like, my knee hurts guy, right,
Speaker 4: But Josh Simmons versus ten players down, I like Simmons
Speaker 4: more than my ten players down guy. But Luther Burden
Speaker 4: is about kind of close to me.
Speaker 2: Are the one that's going to be interesting is genty
Speaker 2: because of the draft class that surrounds him at the
Speaker 2: same running back position that he's gonna have to fill.
Speaker 2: Jensys so much better than whoever's ten. There's a significant drop,
Speaker 2: but you can still get a guy. And if we're
Speaker 2: maximizing those first three picks, which is what we're all
Speaker 2: trying to do, because you don't have that fourth round pick,
Speaker 2: and we're gonna be sitting there on that the beginning
Speaker 2: of day three and we're gonna be watching that fourth
Speaker 2: round just tick off the clock and.
Speaker 3: It's just boop poop poop poop, name name name name.
Speaker 2: Starter, Starter, starter, Starter, down the line, and we're gonna
Speaker 2: just sit there and be like, man, I hope Jonathan
Speaker 2: Ingo works out.
Speaker 4: The Cowboys run game was really good with Zeke, and
Speaker 4: it was really good with Murray and Zeke is the
Speaker 4: top four guy. Murray was like a round three or so.
Speaker 4: So I think if you miss on Gens, you better
Speaker 4: damn hope you get you hit a guy.
Speaker 3: You just get a guy that's gonna be real good.
Speaker 2: That makes sense, all right, We're gonna take some more
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Speaker 2: tennis mecca. I try people walking around and everything.
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Speaker 2: grandstand that's in the middle there.
Speaker 4: Okay, y'all, y'all talking about tennis. I thought I was
Speaker 4: talking about like like a concert or something. I thought,
Speaker 4: like a country music concert.
Speaker 6: Tennis.
Speaker 2: It's the Dallas Open. It's tennis. Hell.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 4: I loved it's. I love the Dallas Open. Yeah, big,
Speaker 4: big tennis guy. Pickleball, what what it is?
Speaker 3: Pickleball? Was that you never heard of that?
Speaker 2: It's like it's like ping pong, but like with a whiffleball,
Speaker 2: and you're.
Speaker 3: Like on a tennis court. It's reah it's weird stuff
Speaker 3: that ping pong. Yeah, they played.
Speaker 2: I'm shot you've never heard of pickleball. It's like the
Speaker 2: whole big thing. Now, I'm from Mississippi. From we won't
Speaker 2: have a pickleball. Yeah, we won't have pickleball, Naimi. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 2: I bet you there's some people out there. The YouTube
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Speaker 3: Vox Lombardi.
Speaker 2: I'm Kyle Yeoman's Chris Beams in the back running the
Speaker 2: Draft show here today as the rest of the crew
Speaker 2: is out there in New Orleans, Louisiana for the super
Speaker 2: Bowl coming up?
Speaker 3: What is this? Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: Fifty nine?
Speaker 5: Now ten fifty nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I haven't been in one in a while, lost
Speaker 2: count a while back. All right, Uh, let's talk a
Speaker 2: little bit about some of some of these other questions
Speaker 2: along the way. I like this one, and we kind
Speaker 2: of touched on this in the first segment. This is
Speaker 2: from uh, Chris, it looks like on YouTube, are we
Speaker 2: overlooking corner as a position of need? In this draft
Speaker 2: because we're hoping the front office addresses it and free
Speaker 2: agents and free agency, or because this corner class isn't
Speaker 2: worth investing a picking.
Speaker 4: I there's some corners in this class too, you know.
Speaker 4: Johnny Barron was the name I mentioned earlier Texas. He's
Speaker 4: a guy that can play all over the place. Trey
Speaker 4: Amos from Old Missus, guy like a lot, Benjamin Morrison,
Speaker 4: not the Dame. There's a bunch of names.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: If he's saying there's not a bunch of corners throughout
Speaker 4: the draft, I guess, but I got corners in rounds one, two,
Speaker 4: and three that I like.
Speaker 3: A bunch about. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So But to his point, though, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you just want to jump off the porch looking for
Speaker 4: a corner, I'm not sure how much of an emergency
Speaker 4: corner is.
Speaker 3: But you can use some more corners, you know.
Speaker 4: It depends on what this team feels about Kaitlyn Carson
Speaker 4: taking the next step, you know us, Hey man, you
Speaker 4: got to step up, Kyle, you know how you know?
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: So, it depends on how hurt Digs is. I think
Speaker 4: Bland will be fine. Depends on what to think about Carson.
Speaker 2: The paycheck from Bland is looming though, because this is
Speaker 2: his final year of his contract, and there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a conversation there when you're paying guys like Dak.
Speaker 3: And CD and Micah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're gonna have to pay to Ron Bland
Speaker 2: and that's gonna be a big check too.
Speaker 4: I think they they draft Corner every year. They do
Speaker 4: it in different places. It'll be high, you know, it'll
Speaker 4: be low some side. But I feel like we draft
Speaker 4: corner a lot, so I.
Speaker 3: Can't win Carson. I think I think we'll go corner again.
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think we could not use corner.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Chris, Yeah, uh what about uh? This one
Speaker 2: from why Red on YouTube? Draft the guard and keep
Speaker 2: Cooper BB at center, or sign a starting caliber center
Speaker 2: and move.
Speaker 3: Cooper BB to guard.
Speaker 4: I don't want Cooper BB to learn how to snap
Speaker 4: and then learn how to snap and then step and
Speaker 4: learn all the calls and just to look at and
Speaker 4: be like, all right, you're gonna be at guard. I
Speaker 4: think I think it's it's a it's a good thing
Speaker 4: to have a powerful center.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't think a lot of teams have powerful centers.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of teams try to hide their
Speaker 4: their centers because they're you know, smaller, or they may
Speaker 4: not be powerful. I think if you finally get a
Speaker 4: center that can wrestle, and that's what we is, I
Speaker 4: just think you just get him a tag team partner
Speaker 4: Daki Raffle and Tyler Smith. If you were just watching
Speaker 4: combos later on in the season, you know BB and
Speaker 4: Tyler really got they got good with their com like
Speaker 4: they started whooping people and move then that's what we
Speaker 4: really know.
Speaker 2: A lot of people were excited about with brock Hoffman
Speaker 2: and TJ basted and filled in in those roles, that
Speaker 2: that element right there, the way that they were able
Speaker 2: to combo block, and the way they were able to
Speaker 2: grow together seemingly. Sure, that was the most exciting thing
Speaker 2: I saw on the offensive line all year long.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm here to keep BB at center. I
Speaker 4: don't want to I don't want to move any you know,
Speaker 4: mess up any growth from him. Keep him there, and
Speaker 4: just if you want to find me a gangster that
Speaker 4: strong and put him at right guard and let's book
Speaker 4: ive you. I keep saying Tyler Booker because he's the
Speaker 4: one that goes whoop people. But Radlic from Georgia, Milom
Speaker 4: from West Virginia. He didn't have the greatest, the greatest
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl in the world. I thought he was still
Speaker 4: think all those reguards, I think all those dudes are.
Speaker 4: That's exact. Why name and see Kyle pro exact? Why
Speaker 4: making sure because they got because a lot of people
Speaker 4: think they're tackles. I think book could be a tackle Booker.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you why you think that. Because he's
Speaker 4: strong and he can wrestle people.
Speaker 2: You're damn right, you know what I'm saying. So so
Speaker 2: I think, you know, offensive line, they're not Kenneth Grant.
Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant's that. He's just a monster of a dude.
Speaker 2: I'm not moving him outside. Offensive line are all the same.
Speaker 2: We are all whooping somebody in front of.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, I'm looking at the wrong sheet. It's all good.
Speaker 3: I'm stupid. It's all good.
Speaker 4: But uh yeah, Tyler, Yeah, put Tyler Booker at You
Speaker 4: can put him in free safe if you want to.
Speaker 3: You know, I like whatever.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: Let him be fhilic, you put him at one take,
Speaker 4: let him be physical. But I think his his traits
Speaker 4: with his power, with his with his knee being for
Speaker 4: a guard three hundred and twenty five pounds, his three
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty fiveness. Yeah, I think he's a he's
Speaker 4: a guard for short. I think he's a natural right guard. Okay,
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 2: This is an intriguing question with the news surrounding, of course,
Speaker 2: all the new additions with this coaching staff moving forward.
Speaker 2: C r Zeno on Twitter says, with the news of
Speaker 2: the new offensive coordinator, would you think running back slash
Speaker 2: offensive wine help isn't as high of a need as
Speaker 2: previously believed and we can go wide receiver in the
Speaker 2: first round.
Speaker 4: I always want to get better dudes. So whoever the
Speaker 4: best dude is in the first round, cool and don't
Speaker 4: worry about and then we can go from there in
Speaker 4: round two or whatever. But if you just listen to
Speaker 4: how the coaches are talking, like, they're giving you clues
Speaker 4: that they want to do a lot of wide stuff.
Speaker 4: They want to get outside, they want to be fast
Speaker 4: on the edges there. So I would imagine that, hey,
Speaker 4: we're up here talking about all these running backs that
Speaker 4: run in between the tackles and thump people. We may
Speaker 4: be in line for a quick quick, bursty type guy.
Speaker 4: So you know, maybe maybe that's something you could be
Speaker 4: looking for. To their point, if we go receiver, I
Speaker 4: think all of these receivers do whide things really well.
Speaker 4: They take handoffs wide really well. So yeah, this is
Speaker 4: a class of good sideways running receivers for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna step aside. That's going to do
Speaker 2: it for us here on this edition.
Speaker 3: Of the aff Show. We got through people should be fun.
Speaker 2: I actually really like this because one of the things
Speaker 2: that's new for Cowboys Podcast in general is we're going
Speaker 2: live on YouTube now and that allows for the comment
Speaker 2: section to come back back. When we first started this
Speaker 2: and I was on the show initially, the comments section
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Speaker 2: love interacting with fans and I love trying to read
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Speaker 2: good indication of that. I thought this was awesome. Plus,
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Speaker 4: He fun appreciate y'all with tuning in and if we
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Speaker 3: All right, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Feel free to start getting in depth to about it.
Speaker 2: We're starting to watch more and more of these guys.
Speaker 3: What is the number you're at? I mean I'm at
Speaker 3: one hundred.
Speaker 2: And four Jesus, Yeah, I got a lot of catchup.
Speaker 5: Kaimon Rucker, Matt like half of that, you know, the edge.
Speaker 4: I just kind of watched him less and a Zone
Speaker 4: Arosa tight end from Miami.
Speaker 3: Elijah Arroyo. What the name of Elijah Arroyo. He's from Frisco?
Speaker 5: Okay, I know, yeah, yeah, from Frisco. Yeah cool.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 4: I just watched him last So so he's like my
Speaker 4: one hundred and third players, So we getting down there.
Speaker 3: I like Elijah Royo a lot. Where'd you have him?
Speaker 4: I got him in the fourth. I think I think
Speaker 4: he hasn't played his best ball yet. I think Miami
Speaker 4: didn't really figure out what to do with him like later.
Speaker 4: But I think if he goes to a team where
Speaker 4: a quarterback is really gonna let it rip and let
Speaker 4: him get vertical downfield and catch the ball over guys,
Speaker 4: then perfect. I don't know how much he's gonna work sideways,
Speaker 4: but if he does some jet sweet stuff. He lines
Speaker 4: up at the X, he lines up in the sliding,
Speaker 4: lines up in line, So I like him.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: By the way, Beamer wants to know, have you ever been.
Speaker 3: To Duncan Park in your hometown? You ever heard of
Speaker 3: Dunkin Park?
Speaker 4: There's there's there's only like two parks in that so yeah,
Speaker 4: Duncan Park is dun One of the Duncan Park is
Speaker 4: one of the ones that we go to in one
Speaker 4: of the kids.
Speaker 2: They have the pickleball courts at Duncan Park.
Speaker 3: They must have just well see it's.
Speaker 4: Probably a new thing when I'm not gonna get into
Speaker 4: you know all that. But you know, we didn't go
Speaker 4: to Duncan Park to play on the courts.
Speaker 2: We went to go that's gonna do it for us
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